Cause remember bf isnt a sim
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
what is better, zimmerit or the smoke launcher?
granite rune
depends*
south lynx
I'd say smoke, but neither is amazing.
granite rune
i like it on my tiger
solid hinge
half the time i use smoke they still get me
granite rune
but on other tanks i will use smoke
south lynx
Zimmerit being any use at all means you've already let the enemy get too close.
granite rune
i always have a person with me so im gucci
south lynx
Smoke is for mind games, either you do something crazy with it like pop it and charge, or you start to move, pop it, immediately change directions, so they keep trying to hit where you were going to be.
granite rune
i do that with the pz4 cuzz that thing has nuts reverse speed lol
south lynx
Don't bother with incendiary launchers BTW.
They're rubbish.
Also the flare launcher.
granite rune
use less?
south lynx
They both just poop the projectile out next to the tank.
south lynx
The incendiary launchers literally just drop two incendiary grenades about a meter in front of the vehicle in the direction the turret is aimed.
small perch
same thing with the "ap mines"
south lynx
And the flare has basically no spot range and only spots for the vehicle + squad, not whole team.
small perch
btw, they are not AP mines. Just regular explosives that blow up immediately
solid hinge
Will there be a update at the 20th?
granite rune
i never did damage with the ap mines
south lynx
The S-mine dispensers work correctly.
granite rune
despite having people right next to my tank
south lynx
They didn't drop mines IRL.
They're bouncing betties fitted directly to the tank, they fire away and then explode mid-air to clear out nearby infantry.
granite rune
has someone tried the Case rounds?
south lynx
In-game ones aren't great though.
solid hinge
for the german arty truck, do you take the flak specialisation
south lynx
Arty truck/
small perch
yep, useless
south lynx
?
solid hinge
wirbelwind
small perch
Why pick case rounds when you have LMG :/
south lynx
Oh, the 3.7cm cannon? I haven't messed with it yet, I assume it'll perform similarly to the 40mm on the Valentine AA.
solid hinge
i thought the wirbelwind was already anti air but there is a specialisation for it lol
south lynx
Case rounds are pretty situational.
small perch
now if there was a way to upgrade the LMG to an HMG, I'd pick it immediately over anything else. All tanks have sorta okay damage vs armour anyway. Inf is the problem because of the LMG spread
south lynx
They're not as useless as most of the other close-in defense options, but they're still a close-in defense weapon, and I'm a big fan of not letting yourself get in so deep that you need more close-in firepower than the MG and main gun can provide.
One thing I haven't tested with them that might make them worth it is their wall-penetrating ability.
If they can mulch infantry behind soft cover, they'll have a solid niche.
The coaxial will do it eventually, but it gives people time to react. Throwing a mess of projectiles through the wall all at once and instagibbing people would be a handy ability to have.
south lynx
The two upgrades on my list of stuff to test once I get the company coins to finish things off are the Valentine AA case shot, and the Flakpanzer flaming onion rounds.
granite rune
but i always want kukri
brave locust
what is it about bf that attracts the most trash ass snipers lol
south lynx
40mm with case could be insanely nasty.
brave locust
you don't see people going awp every round in cs
south lynx
And flaming onion will need to test if it burns out bodies.
Because that will give it a really solid niche.
opaque hinge
Cause people are bad
And they feel good if they go 5-0 sniping at the back of the map all game
Cause muh kd
brave locust
i mean if they at least had a 5-0 kd that would make sense but they're so bad man
lucid marsh
They need their sniper vids
south lynx
TBH that kind of sniper would usually be better off waving a spotting scope around all match. Certainly more useful.
opaque hinge
No, as in they only get 5 kills all game
brave locust
lmfao
opaque hinge
But 5.0 kd
south lynx
If you're gonna sit five klicks off the battlefield, at least take advantage of the fact that your scope will now cover a respectable chunk of the battlefield.
main grove
You're meant to snipe from objectives at any pillocks on their way to capture it
opaque hinge
COD kids
brave locust
even in cod i never seen so many snipers
opaque hinge
They snipe in bf cause they cant do bf strat
Bf gunplay is very different
Than COD
brave locust
yeah true
south lynx
I'm cool with snipers who at least play on comms. One of my buddies loves his spotting scope enough that it's probably criminal in some states. But he's also always telling us what's incoming and where.
opaque hinge
Oh yeah
opaque hinge
I have a buddy that likes to snipe but he's always covering my ass
brave locust
but many many aren't
south lynx
Like, it's hugely useful to have someone who perma-spots the enemy tanks as they show up.
opaque hinge
He'll watch over me make call outs and spot
main grove
Doesn't it give you points for spotting
brave locust
when i play scout to level my guns i'm aware that i'm a trash aimer so at least i spam flares
opaque hinge
It does
south lynx
Plus he's an ass and likes to let me know the state of the enemy resupply dumps so I can go kill them.
main grove
Before you only got points if someone then killed who you spotted
south lynx
I shouldn't tell anyone this, but if you want to really fuck up vehicle players, blow up their ammo dumps and then mine the location.
brave locust
idk why i'm ranting bc they're so bad, it's just really annoying to get randomly sniped from random locations by terrible players
opaque hinge
Oh 100% agree
south lynx
Hell, just mining the ammo dumps is usually evil enough, but bonus points for blowing them up first.
main grove
You can easily enough counter then now thanks to removal of random bullet spread
So unless they're good they should be easy AF to kill
brave locust
might be reason enough to go bfv lol
opaque hinge
Easy AF to kill who
main grove
Bad snipers
brave locust
half the people left in bf1 are snipers and 100* arty trucks and 80* ilya muromets
opaque hinge
Only thing I hate about snipers rn is theres no flinch or suppression
south lynx
M1A1 w/3x scope, the anti bad sniper.
opaque hinge
I shoot at a sniper when hes scopes in at me and his scope is perfectly steady
opaque cipher
The ultimate spam cannon
south lynx
TBH I can't decide if M1A1 is glorious perfection or OP stupidity.
brave locust
whoa there's no suppression?
opaque hinge
No flinch when hes shot and no suppression
opaque hinge
Not against scopes in snipers...
south lynx
Suppression is a visual effect only.
opaque cipher
Suppression needs to do something to sniper
opaque hinge
Yeah it does
opaque cipher
It also disables health regen
opaque hinge
Otherwise impossible to counter
south lynx
Oh yeah.
opaque cipher
What does it do
main grove
TBH it was stupid in BF1 when your bullet left the gun at a 30 degree angle
brave locust
so what do mgs do vs snipers, just hope they miss?
opaque hinge
Lol
opaque cipher
Because it doesn’t stop them from nailing my head despite fully suppressed
opaque hinge
Pretty much
opaque hinge
They are
opaque cipher
Bipod and get sniped by another
brave locust
lol i was watching a streamer complain about bipods
south lynx
Bren w/3x scope can countersnipe easily.
opaque cipher
I take down a snipe and see another scope glinting at me
Then it’s a feels bad moment
opaque hinge
Reee nerf this and that cause I'm big streamer
main grove
Bad snipers on your team are more annoying
opaque hinge
brave locust
in team games usually my team annoys me more than the enemy team
opaque hinge
Yeah I agree
south lynx
MG34 doesn't even need a scope (Which is good, since it can't have one.) The 1.25x mag AA sight is enough zoom to countersnipe when podded.
tiny lantern
finally got home and was thinking of only using Medic/Support today in BFV. But my daily assignments have something to do with Recon class. FML.
brave locust
"fucking push"
opaque hinge
Dude my entire team always travels in a big pack
brave locust
"fucking push you assholes"
opaque hinge
Entire 32 man team (-4 for my squad) bum rushes 1 objective
opaque hinge
So then we lose every other flag
main grove
Im so bad at it
opaque hinge
Like spread out
main grove
But I still capture objectives if they're secure
brave locust
i'm so bad at medium range but i prefer it
south lynx
The zerg blob is a problem, but the only way that'll change is if we get better communications tools.
We should really be able to see which friendly squads have orders on points.
opaque hinge
Wish u could voice that the whole team
main grove
I liked weapons that stretch out the classes range
opaque hinge
Oh and call people idiots in chat
main grove
Like the ribeyrolles 1918 in BF1
south lynx
It'd help SLs allocate orders to cover things.
opaque hinge
Cause apparently idiot is censored
brave locust
yeah like a general
solid hinge
Do some of you also have the bug that in the JU-88 the quick repair and the 1000kg are both binded to the key 3?
south lynx
Commander mode coming back would also help.
opaque hinge
Yes
brave locust
why was that ever gone
opaque hinge
Never forget
brave locust
???????????????
opaque hinge
Cause stupid
south lynx
Especially if it had tactical tools that weren't just straight up murder-things-here.
Smoke and flare barrages would be amazing commander-level tactical tools.
brave locust
if i can spot people across the entire map surely i can give orders to other squads
main grove
Is the Blenheim bad compared to the JU-88
south lynx
Imagine the oh shit factor of having a dozen flares pop over your area.
opaque hinge
tbh I'd be fine if squad leads tot all these tools
Like in the b menu
Rather than v1 being the only viable option
south lynx
V1 isn't the only viable option.
opaque hinge
Or 2 tanks
south lynx
IMO most V1 calls are actually pretty bad given their cost.
Supply cans are underrated.
lucid marsh
But they are cool
opaque hinge
The tanks are okay imo
main grove
V1 call ins are a meme
opaque hinge
Okay well the supply cans cost nothing
south lynx
The TD is lethal with a good team working it, but it requires two people who are on comms.
opaque hinge
I'd rather have flares and smokes and arty etc. For squad lead
lucid marsh
I tried out the pakwagon and its actually pretty fun if you manage to get a good position
south lynx
White Phosphorous.
opaque hinge
Yes
south lynx
Smoke that sets you on fire.
opaque hinge
Ah use
main grove
White phosphorus
lucid marsh
A concentrated mortar or artillery fire would be really nice
opaque hinge
Yes
opaque cipher
Gas
main grove
WP is pretty nasty
south lynx
I hope in the future we can customize our squad call-in choices.
opaque cipher
Yeah tanks are kinda eh
opaque hinge
Yes pls
main grove
Rather get gassed than WP'd
opaque cipher
So are supply drops
opaque hinge
And honestly I wish it'd give points to the rest of my squad
south lynx
WP is hideous stuff, but what's stupid is based on graphics, all the smoke already in-game is apparently WP.
opaque hinge
I feel greedy taking all the kills
south lynx
It bursts in the same characteristic way.
main grove
In WW2 WP was more used for smoke screens than to kill people
opaque hinge
Shh
main grove
The lethal effect was an extra
opaque cipher
I’d have that too
opaque hinge
get outta here with your logic
opaque cipher
Tons and tons of smoke blanket an objective
lucid marsh
I think the squad should also be able to request a V1 position, so the squad leader only has to approve it
opaque cipher
Or cut off line of sight for a push
That’d be amazing
And then I fire off into the smoke and use suppression to spot
It’s gonna be great
main grove
Someone suggested that you could be able to throw coloured smoke as a signal for bombers
opaque hinge
yeah
i'd be down with that too
the objective markers don't last very long
and i guess colored smoke would be visible for whole team
main grove
Even if they kill no one they could still get points for at least following an order
opaque hinge
although bombers do need a nerf (although confirmed one is coming)
opaque cipher
Maybe a flare for scout
lucid marsh
And would also make the enemy team HAVE to move from that spawn
opaque cipher
Highlight enemies for planes
south lynx
Scouts already get flares.
lucid marsh
The scout has a flare gun tight
opaque cipher
Yeah
south lynx
They just got nerfed super, super hard since beta.
main grove
It only seems like the JU-88 is busted
main grove
The other planes i've heard no one complaining about
opaque hinge
JU-88 is op
opaque cipher
This is the community syndrome
main grove
Blenheim is less of a killing machine and more of a support plane
main grove
Especially with the paratrooper upgrade
main grove
It's so slow compared to JU-88
opaque hinge
i think the issue is the instant resupply for the bombs
and the quick respawn time
just bomb away all day
and obviously the spawn in and get insta-bombed
opaque cipher
Fighters can camp resupply points
south lynx
Excessive HP is a worse problem.
main grove
I only used the Ju-87 Stuka in the beta and it felt balanced enough
opaque cipher
Because the bombers will be doing a u turn afterwords
opaque hinge
and excessive hp
opaque cipher
Pulling up is slow
opaque hinge
but DICE confirmed bomber nerf is coming
south lynx
Stuka and Mossie don't seem to be terribly oppressive, but it's hard to tell because you so rarely see them.
I'm hoping one of the future content drops includes a version of the Mossie that can carry the 57mm gun.
main grove
I don't know how they'll nerf bombers
south lynx
I kinda want to see the Cookie too, but at the same time I suspect it would suck for anyone on the ground if they implemented it.
main grove
I feel like they'll overnerf them and make them useless
main grove
like the Trench fighter
south lynx
Bombers can stand to lose a lot of power before they become worthless.
unreal bobcat
Who has the FG42?
main grove
As annoyiing as that was
opaque cipher
Decreasing hp is good enough
opaque hinge
eh
DICE said they want a resupply time tho
they just took it out cause it was broken
south lynx
IMO they should lose the third person sight too.
main grove
JU-87 resupply took the piss in beta
opaque hinge
yeah so i mean not a super long one
main grove
You only got one of your 2 bombs and had to wait 30 seconds for the other
opaque hinge
but not instant either..
south lynx
You still have a cycle time between bombs on the B-2 anyways.
opaque hinge
otherwise drop 30 fucking bombs, resupply instantly, 30 more
tbh don't know how the cycle fully works cause i don't really fly, but afaik it's instant
full disclosure
main grove
I'd say it should resupply all of your bombs and have a cooldown depending on how many bombs you needed to resupply
opaque hinge
yeah that makes sense
main grove
From 10 to 50 seconds
opaque hinge
idk what they plan
i'd be ok with that
and increase respawn times for planes.. when they go down u can almost instantly hop in another one
main grove
So you don't have people dropping all 40 bombs at once
twin basin
Are there any issues with the spectator mode? I've played for 26 hours without a single issue, but only lasted for ~20 seconds as a spectator before the game CTD.
icy sluice
M1A1 with medium scope is surprisingly good
south lynx
IMO lack of airfields was a mistake. I get why they did it, I just don't think it did good things for the game as a whole.
icy sluice
What's the point though?
south lynx
Didn't want to have airfield camping.
opaque hinge
ah
opaque cipher
Doesn’t make a lot of sense
south lynx
BF3 people would get blown up as soon as they took off.
icy sluice
Besides the feeling and whatnot, what's the actual point?
south lynx
IMO there are better ways to solve the issue than just not having airfields entirely, but that was their decision.
opaque hinge
i used to fly a bit in bf3 and be fine
not blown up instantly
u take off pretty quick
or throw in some spawn protection
main grove
I thought Hamada had an airfield
south lynx
Ever get a good player on the opposing team? They'd camp you hard.
Hamada has an airfield for a single plane spawn.
rose pilot
New melee takedown animations in BFV.
fathom oxide
best medic gun and setup , go
opaque cipher
Finally
opaque hinge
oh that's cool
main grove
I want to see someone using the MP34
opaque hinge
u just smash their head into the ground
opaque cipher
Is that a downed execution?
main grove
So far everyone uses STEN, MP40 or Thompson
south lynx
Suomi with coffin mags, replace aim with more dakka.
main grove
MP28 or MP34
fathom oxide
wtf is dakka
south lynx
Alternately, Suomi with RoF, replace dakka with more dakka.
fathom oxide
man u 3 guys said completely diff stuff
main grove
Word meaning high rate of fire
south lynx
Dakka, the sound a gun makes.
opaque cipher
More dakka
fathom oxide
rank u said like every gun
south lynx
It's from WH40k. Orks call anything that shoots at stuff dakka, and the only thing better than dakka is more dakka.
main grove
No I just said I've not seen anyone use the MP28 or MP34
fathom oxide
oh
opaque cipher
MP28’s animation is obnoxious
opaque hinge
yeah i like my sten
opaque cipher
Errr
icy sluice
How's the animation obnoxious?
opaque cipher
MP18?
unreal bobcat
Anyone use the FG42?
lucid marsh
I like the mp28 but I don't feel it has anything better then the others
main grove
That's how you're meant to hold it
south lynx
Suomi with RoF is scary in close. Ammo is a huge problem though.
south lynx
770 rd/min with a 20 round mag goes fast.
opaque hinge
oh yeah
main grove
Either hold it from underneath the receiver or hold it by the magwell from underneath
You don't hold the magwell from the top
I was terrifed that dice would make you hold the STEN by the mag
south lynx
Was holding it by the magwell at all an approved method?
main grove
Just asking for a jam
south lynx
Because I know on other side-loaders it's a problem.
fathom oxide
fairly fun game, visuals, sound and moments are very nice but customazation seems kind of weak for guns and what not
twin basin
Hopefully they'll build on that with future DLCs
main grove
You can hold it by the magwell as long as you didn't grip the Mag itself
main grove
I fired a sterling SMG the way your guy holds the MP28
I didn't really like it
Receiver is better
lofty hearth
Hey guys, when I call in a Sturmtiger/Churchill is it available for every player on my team? Or only my squad?
dreamy lintel
turner smle vs the gewehr 1-5 - why would i use the turner
south lynx
Only your squad, and someone has to respawn to grab it within a couple minutes.
lofty hearth
I don't get why you can't call it from the deploy overview panel
south lynx
Because BFV's UX is incoherent?
lofty hearth
I mean, like the commander from BF4
main grove
Turner has better iron sights IMO
south lynx
BFV isn't the worst UX ever, it's just not very good. Lots of room for improvement.
lofty hearth
I really like the aesthetic of the UI but the functionality is a bit bad
Yeah exactly
opaque cipher
Learn from WWIII
main grove
I hate the look of the Volksturmgewehr so much
opaque cipher
Bring up a map overlay
south lynx
You, me, and a whole bunch of old German guys too. 😛
main grove
Everyone uses it because it's the first gun assault gets
Wait does the Gewehr 1-5 do more damage than the Volksturmgewehr?
Per bullet?
main grove
Webley MK6
south lynx
And yeah Rank, the Gewehr 1-5 does about twice the damage per bullet.
main grove
Makes a lot of sense that does (s)
south lynx
Consistency between damage and cartridge type is nonexistent.
south lynx
Then again, imagine if the 8mm Mauser did consistent damage.
Either the Kar 98k would be the worst sniper rifle ever, or the MG 42 would be indescribably deadly.
main grove
I can forgive the damage between different guns for same cartridge as they need that for balance
opaque cipher
Heard it overheats too fast
south lynx
But it's literally the same gun without select fire, yeah I get it.
main grove
But the VSTG and the VG are literally the same gun
south lynx
I'm stealing those abbreviations by the way. Because fuck this whole 1 - 5 nonsense.
main grove
The gewehr 1-5 seems a bit broken because of that
30 round mag about the same damage as the Turner
south lynx
Yeah it's supposed to be very good.
opaque cipher
M1A1 is preferred iirc
main grove
Needs to be like how the M1907 was in BF1
opaque cipher
It has extended mag and can spam fire
main grove
gets quite weak at long range
Weaker than M1A1
Or have it do the same damage as the M1 but give it a bit more recoil
make it less spammable
twin basin
Seriously, how do I spawn a plane?
main grove
Nah
We're trying to make it similar to The volksturmgewehr
They are literally the same gun just one's in full auto and has a grip
and the semi auto does double damage somehow
south lynx
@twin basin At the deploy screen there's an icon of a propeller, it has a number next to it. That's your team's available planes.
You have to select that when the number is nonzero, and then deploy.
opaque hinge
glorious get bombed to shit map
slow root
Think that map would be great without the planes really
opaque cipher
Yes
south lynx
It sucks for dogfighting actually.
Unless you drag a fight to the outskirts of the map you're in AA range.
Hamada is better for actual dogfights, easier to engage outside the AA bubble.
Plus everyone on Fjell knows it's full of planes, so the AA guns are manned full time.
opaque cipher
Thought there are AA blindsides at the big lake
narrow yacht
Official nation vs nation battles could be fun
main grove
Wait what do you mean?
south lynx
Not near spawn altitude. You can always go downhill far enough to get under the guns.
main grove
I have a question about STG44 customization
opaque hinge
fire away
main grove
If you convert it to Mkb42 can you then apply different patterns/camos on it
main grove
Yeah
narrow yacht
There's a community on PS4 who are organizing official country vs country events for BF, quite excited to see where it goes
hazy grove
lets go 1 day 12 hours 54 minutes and 45 seconds till i can play bf5
main grove
Not statistically
main grove
But the MKB42 was a prototype of the STG44
opaque hinge
you've been like hyped for so long
hazy grove
yep since the reveal
hazy grove
im gonna no life battlefield hardddd
main grove
They look very similar but have a few visual differences
opaque hinge
already rank 50
hazy grove
im skipping school on tuesday for bf5 and starting wenesday for me is thanksgiving break so i can no life all week
opaque hinge
nice xD
black friday on fridayyy
get my 1440p monitor then and admire the sexyness of bfv even more
hazy grove
yeah if i get enough money im gonna get a nintedo switch bundle. even if i don't im for sure getting a switch this christmas
opaque hinge
nice
hazy grove
i already have a nice 1440p monitor. im so hyped
opaque hinge
nice
south lynx
I already bought myself my shiny kit early. Got a new fightstick and a proper head tracker.
hazy lynx
New Caspian Border profile pic
opaque hinge
fancy
opaque hinge
already bought myself a new mouse and mousepad
hazy lynx
And Dragon Valley
hazy grove
im dissapointed though no battle royale till march. and br is the part im most excited for
tiny lantern
is your new mousepad RGB tho?
south lynx
I'm debating if I should pick up IL-2 modules on the inevitable winter sale.
tiny lantern
200% more Aim stat with RGB 
south lynx
But that way lies madness and the poorhouse.
On the other hand...Tank Crew is coming out.
And I need to introduce some big cats to the 152mm communist manifesto.
From each as they are able, to each as they have need. And that Tiger needs a big fucking six inch hole in the front of it.
lyric abyss
Razer?
opaque hinge
i literally spent the extra $40 on rgb (equivalent non rgb was $40 less)
and yeah my aim is amazing now
spark quarry
¯_(ツ)_/¯
opaque hinge
rgb mouse + mousepad = superior aim
spark quarry
razer aim assist I guess
opaque hinge
just need an rgb keyboard now... (my current one only has blue backlight)
opaque hinge
Low sensitivity master race
opaque cipher
8 sens
opaque hinge
O.o
fathom oxide
5 sens 800 dpi here
opaque hinge
800 dpi but cant remember my sens rip
tight kettle
50
latent cairn
Yagman you are forgetting RGB headset
mossy badge
tiny lantern
my mum just installed her RGB christmas light on the christmas tree. 
tight thorn
TFW your family can only afford generic yellow tree lights 😦
tight kettle
i just have rgb everything, even spots on the ceiling have rgb
tiny lantern
Filipino fam here, they go crazy with christmas decor...
elder oracle
I think today is the day I refund my preorder deluxe...since the class I like to play is utter dogshit and assault is once again easymode and OP
tiny lantern
yikes ^^
solid hinge
@elder oracle Assault it is then!
I’m gonna abuse the shit out of that class just like in BF1
opaque cipher
I bet this guy plays scout
elder oracle
Well since DICE I have decided they can't make a game without Assault being OP, I'm pretty much deciding DICE doesn't need my money
opaque cipher
Lmao
elder oracle
I play Medic
tight kettle
medic guns are awesome
solid hinge
I play as Medic and Assault..
tight kettle
just don't try to play medium range, get close and murder
opaque cipher
Have you not heard of the suomi
tight kettle
do you guys use higher ROF or larger mag for suomi
i love the higher rof, it's ridiculous
opaque hinge
@latent cairn dont worry I do have an rgb headset
elder oracle
Honestly Medic guns aren't great, even at point blank most ARs and LMGs have higher DPS and higher Rate of Fire, while also having the flexibility to perform at range
and Medic is the only class with a single weapon type
light magnet
i dont know im using the emp and the mp 28 (i think) those two seem pretty good, can hit at med and close range with them
elder oracle
and they are objectively worse than the default Assault weapon, it's not that they're bad, but they are straight downgrades on LMGs and ARs
solid hinge
Yo, what’s the best weapon for Assault?
unreal bobcat
Anyone using the FG42?
hollow galleon
Suomi kp 981rpm will destroy at close range 🤪
tight kettle
ya suomi is strong
i don't understand why weapons aren't interchangeable with classes
smgs/semis etc
gray glade
the hipfire on the suomi is pretty terrible tho?
tight kettle
pretty super strong*
gray glade
i was like 10m away from some dude
light magnet
its always been this way in battlefield its because those roles wouldnt use the same guns
gray glade
bullets hit 5m to the side of him
tight kettle
i'd say 10m is still very easy to hit
gray glade
normally yes, if it didnt have spread like that
elder oracle
Assault and Support get two gun types, which are both good
tight kettle
smg needs semifiring weapons like in BF1
elder oracle
Oh you're right
tight kettle
no idea why they only have smgs
tight kettle
almost feels like it
light magnet
and sure they can be technically worse but with practice there is curently no reason that you can not get high score and kill games with only using smgs, if you play them correctly
elder oracle
make revives harder to do, change how healing works, make their guns the worst
tight kettle
my kdr is better with smgs than it is with assault weapons
elder oracle
I top the scoreboard nearly every game... I have no issues doing well as Medic, but it's not fun
latent cairn
light magnet
i play pretty much only medic (offencive) and im usually doing as well as i would expect and often find it harder to use the support or assault weapons harder to use in a lot of cases
pale spade
Do you always have to back out of the server you’re on in order to add new assignments or customize anything?
Or is there some way I dont know about to do so
light magnet
you can do specialisations within the pregame loby
small perch
you can customize already unlocked stuff in-game but for everything else you need to back down to lobby
elder oracle
My issue with Medic, is that against equally skilled players, you will, by numbers alone, lose every single gunfight. LMGs and ARs have more DPS, with less damage dropoff. They also coupled this to a new revive system, which is great, but means I die a lot trying to get my team up. I can't use medical crates anymore because no one ever looks down to pick up bandages. Most of the time I feel like medic would almost play the same if all I had was bandages and smokes
solid hinge
hello guys. I have a possibly stupid question ^^
small perch
mmh. Ammo- and medic boxes need to be marked somehow
pale spade
Im disappointed that they took away SLR’s from the medic class
solid hinge
where is the airborne mode, exactly? need it for assignments
pale spade
Smgs simply dont fit the play style for most medics
quick egret
i saw hoss, i thought it was hess... lol
pale spade
Lol
tight kettle
@solid hinge first part of grand operations
tight kettle
np my dood, go get em
small perch
good luck with the "shoot down planes as an allied player"
elder oracle
I play a very aggressive medic, SMGs don't work because they aren't the best at 5 meters (lmgs and ARs are better) and they are garbage past 10 meters.
small perch
there's only one map where the allied side is defending on airborne mode, and the AA guns get swarmed in less than a minute
pale spade
The suomi is probably the best close range weapon right now
But like hella close range
elder oracle
And with the suomi you basically have to say, "I will only fight people at 8 meters or less"
pale spade
And with the maps in the game right now, close range is definitely NOT favored
lucid marsh
Well if you get all the upgrades for range at rank 4, the suomi is pretty good imo
pale spade
Most are med-long range based
bleak anvil
Damn, I was sleeping on the mg34. Thing is quite a beast. Honestly, I like so many of the guns though.
pale spade
Its a beast if you lay on the ground 99% of the time
twin basin
I want to level the other classes, but Support is just too much fun to me. 🤔
elder oracle
I mean, the problem is ARs and LMGs have nearly identical TTK to SMGs, but are not limited to close range like SMGs are
lucid marsh
So far my favorite guns are the mp40 and suomi, busy with getting the mp34 to rank 4 but I like it a lot
bleak anvil
Gotta play the mmgs a little further out than your squad.
pale spade
Is it just me, or is the 3x scope on scout too little, and the 6x is just too much?
There’s no good median
bleak anvil
I usually use the 3x
pale spade
As do I, it just feels like its not enough magnification
Always went with the 4x/5x in BF1
So, do you think DICE will allow us to activate new assignments in between rounds?
elder oracle
I miss Battlelog... sure it wasn't in game, but it was a much better interface for doing stuff
opaque hinge
It was
pale spade
Great system that was
opaque hinge
And yeah they will
Assignments are bugged rn but you're supposed to be able to activate new ones between rounds
Will hopefully be patched for the 20th
elder oracle
I don't understand why Assault got SLRs... ARs already have decent range, SLRs + SMGs make more sense for medic, what was their concern, too many medics?
cold trail
The shotgun fall-off range is brutal... if it's not within five feet, forget it. Need some slugs.
opaque hinge
SLR?
elder oracle
self loading rifle/semi-auto rifle
opaque hinge
Ah
cold trail
That M1907 in Assault is a wonderous weapon.
cold trail
Once I got that thing, I started blazing through people.
tight kettle
ya m1907 is nice
small perch
wait what... at grenade pistol 3 shots a tank
tight kettle
are you using hipfire spec or capacity spec hydra?
elder oracle
I don't understand why they just gave Assault everything
cold trail
Needs an extended magazine capacity though, so I'll have to check specializations.
opaque hinge
Assault class is best class
cold trail
@tight kettle strictly ADS, I don't hipfire with any of these weapons (with the exception of the horribly inaccurate either way LMGs) versus BF4.
tight kettle
im using the m1907 as a hipfire weapon
visual flower
Sugma rifle
cold trail
How's that working for you @tight kettle?
visual flower
Is what I’m using
tight kettle
in certain maps it works great
if only dice implemented multiple setups for each class
cold trail
Yeah.
opaque hinge
Thatd be nice
tight kettle
or even changing setup during a game
cold trail
I've also been on Axis forces LITERALLY every game... I am talking about 72 hours of play so far, not once played Allies.
tight kettle
what
visual flower
I’m trying to get enough experience for the sawcon pistol
cold trail
Yeah, it's crazy.
tight kettle
now i get to think of it, im mainly put into allies games
i rarely defend in airborne games
cold trail
The only thing I can think of is that I have primarily been playing with a squad of friends, so maybe that's the only side with room. I don't know.
tight kettle
I think we're destined to never play together 💔
small perch
And there's no swap teams button <.<
solid hinge
Why does the game freeze like this ? https://imgur.com/a/F325ToQ
happen like 3 times in 2 hour
opaque hinge
That's weird axis only
solid hinge
when i go to menu in the game
tight kettle
did you press assignments?
cold trail
PC?
tight kettle
don't press assignments
twin basin
@solid hinge It happens when you open assignments while dead, I believe.
opaque hinge
Never open assignments in game
solid hinge
yeah i se that
humble stump
I know this isn’t a LFG chat but anyone here play on PS4?
solid hinge
why not? lol
tight kettle
it's bugged at the moment
small perch
yeah, don't open any menus if you're dead or selecting class
opaque hinge
Its bugged rn
solid hinge
yeah much bug in this game
tight kettle
i mean. it's dice flavored
solid hinge
i keep dieing in bf 5 man
twin basin
Because it makes the screen look like https://imgur.com/a/F325ToQ some of the times.
cold trail
We don't have that problem on XB1 I've seen. I go into assignments all the time in-game.
opaque hinge
Lol
solid hinge
is it ust me ?
dreamy lintel
keep it as it, and make SLRS common pool weapons.
solid hinge
to many buggs for a game like this
latent cairn
mp40 or Sten? 🤔
opaque hinge
Waiting for that day 1 patch
solid hinge
they have 1 month extra to fix everything scandal....
twin basin
@cold trail I made 28 hours while checking assignments after every single death, and I just had my first experience with that bug 5 minutes ago.
opaque hinge
Sten
tight kettle
ya game is riddled with bugs, which will get ironed out eventually but how long that will take, nobody knows
cold trail
It's a big game. there are bound to be bugs.
opaque hinge
Hoping by tomorrow there'll be a patch for some bugs
solid hinge
they have so long time to work with this and fix it, its a scandal release
cold trail
@twin basin PC or console?
twin basin
PC
dreamy lintel
TAA isn't a bug 
cold trail
Ah, yeah.
latent cairn
Yagman sending you a vid, check it out :3
opaque hinge
Well if they release a patch tomorrow I'll be happy
cold trail
Not I, I'm on console.
twin basin
@solid hinge Name one AAA multiplayer game without bugs on release.
cold trail
I thought they were live-patching as things happened?
opaque hinge
Nope
Just standard patches
Weve had 1 so far on the 14th
Assuming another one will come tomorrow before standard edition releases
Cause that's probably 80% of players (I'm assuming I dont have stats)
latent cairn
Yoshi, I can do you one better.
Name any game that has no bugs
solid hinge
Tetris
opaque hinge
Ride to hell retribution
latent cairn
There are many different "version" of Tetris 🤔
solid hinge
What do you mean?
tight kettle
titris
latent cairn
I mean, the game is different depending on where you play it
south lynx
Tetris was invented in Russia, licensed overseas, and has been re-released in a plethora of formats since its original, simplistic version on micro computers.
cerulean knot
@opaque hinge Think they will fix the lvl 20 unlock bug?
solid hinge
The og version
opaque hinge
Yah I think they will
latent cairn
Yagman, ride to hell had some really unreliable hitboxes 😉
opaque hinge
They're aware of it
gray glade
the lvl20 unlock bug was fixed for me randomly
opaque hinge
Haha finally someone understands the reference
gray glade
suddenly i got the gun, without me changing or doing anything
twin basin
@cerulean knot I'd be surprised if they didn't. Either way, their goal would be to eliminate any bugs they can, obviously.
latent cairn
Bugs make games more fun as long as they arent too game breaking 😉
opaque hinge
I think ride to hell retribution is a good example
cerulean knot
@twin basin Cause I reached lvl 20 for support, but quit mid-match so now I can't f***ing play the MG42!!
south lynx
Bugs sometimes make the game. Links in fighting games were a bug.
opaque hinge
Links?
south lynx
Yeah, the ability to throw out a move so it connects while your opponent is still in hitstun.
IIRC it was a glitch in one of the really early fighters, Samurai Shodown maybe?
opaque hinge
Ah ic
I'd so do pr
And news releases
Legit have nothing better to do when I'm at home rn
latent cairn
I want to help programming 😄
opaque hinge
Too much free time
south lynx
Links lead to some of the early short combos in games like Street Fighter, which eventually lead to the crazy long combos and air juggles seen in fighters like Blazblue.
opaque hinge
I suck at programming but I'd be good for pr and marketing and news releases
tight kettle
dice should hire me, i can fix their UX issue
opaque hinge
O.o
latent cairn
haha 😛
hazy lynx
I can fix the issue EA is if they hire me
opaque hinge
For all u guys know I work for Dice rn
south lynx
Oh, also the entire air juggle mechanic in Devil May Cry was a bug in an unrelated game.
tight kettle
ligma
hazy lynx
Whats ligma
solid hinge
Oof, he's the government
tight kettle
ligma balls
south lynx
The DMC dev team was working in the same building as the Onimusha team, and there was a bug in an early build of Onimusha that lead to air juggles being possible.
hazy lynx
GOT EEEEM
solid hinge
Gottem
latent cairn
Yagman, I just watched the BFV trailer.
You know how I "may" feel.
Sell the game in less than 5 messages 😉
opaque hinge
Yeah
south lynx
DMC's lead dev swiped that behavior because he thought it looked cool.
latent cairn
(pretending I didnt already buy it)
solid hinge
What class?
cerulean knot
Hey, I read on reddit or twitter, someone said to reset Origin if you have the lvl 20 unlock bug. What do they mean by that?
latent cairn
lvl 20 unlock bug?
solid hinge
What's that?
tight kettle
just bug Abishek on EA support
solid hinge
Oof, EA
tight kettle
that asshole has to learn someday
cerulean knot
@latent cairn leave match when reach lvl 20, the lvl 20 gun can't be played
latent cairn
I should leave when I get to lvl 20?
solid hinge
Why? Oof
opaque hinge
"A ww2 inspired first person shooter with thrilling "only in battlefield" style moments that immerse you in DICE's newest edition to the series, Battlefield V. Powered by the newest Frostbite engine, experience war like never before, with more realistic destruction, explosions, and weather changes throughout the round. It's your Battlefield, soldier. Pick up your copy today."
Did I sell u @latent cairn
solid hinge
Lol
south lynx
Jesus christ you sound like a fucking marketing clone.
latent cairn
You didnt yagman 😉
opaque hinge
Damn
latent cairn
But close
opaque hinge
That was my DICE application
south lynx
Did you have to work that hard to sound bland and flavorless or does it come naturally to you?
opaque hinge
Notice me senpai
solid hinge
HHahaha, lol
latent cairn
lol
opaque hinge
No that's how u need to sound to work for a big company
latent cairn
Yagman, hmu on Origin
opaque hinge
Its all gotta be pr speak
I feel like that captures the tone of DICES press releases
south lynx
And this is why we get shit like Diablo: Phone Edition.
tiny lantern
lol don't you guys have phones?
south lynx
PR droids following PR droids in a massive circklejerk.
tight kettle
You forgot the words innovation and immersion
south lynx
circle*
latent cairn
You guys all have phones
latent cairn
haha
tight kettle
🐝
latent cairn
Yagman! hmu on Origin 😉
opaque hinge
I stuck in battlefield and frostbite
tight kettle
slide in his DMs BOOAAH
tight kettle
Literally hitler
south lynx
Needs some play on evolution.
latent cairn
im in there alright
south lynx
Gotta hint at leveloution without stating it.
opaque hinge
First of it's kind
latent cairn
Yagman, I am sold on your PR if you add me on Origin! 😂
opaque hinge
Make it your battlefield
tight kettle
authentic, realistic, autistic
pure veldt
what does everyone play DPI wise on mouse and did you adjust any in game sensitivities?
tight kettle
yagman4999
south lynx
TBH if I was PR I'd have just opened with a drama cut of a Sturmtiger rolling out of a dark alleyway, elevating the cannon and firing, followed by a 180 degree camera sweep to show the siege of Warsaw and buildings collapsing. But what do I know about building drama?
opaque hinge
El1t3 1337 h@x0r
opaque hinge
Nothing
tight kettle
i hacked the mainframe and infiltrated the firewalls so i could impregnate the bits with my megadongle and upload the organic virus into your rectum
opaque hinge
U clearly dont deserve to work for EA
tight kettle
nohomo
solid hinge
What will you get if you preorder Battlefield V(Standard Edition) ?
tight kettle
ya don't want to deal with that aids thing
latent cairn
Just the game Vlad
opaque hinge
Damn
solid hinge
;-;
pure veldt
oh man 2 days til fodder enters game
solid hinge
Well shit.
opaque hinge
I dont have aids tho I promise
pure veldt
i have ads
tight kettle
is fodder that cheating kid
opaque hinge
Yes
solid hinge
Im going back into my grave.Cya.
latent cairn
lol, okay cya
pure veldt
he's CIA!
latent cairn
Okay keep quiet about it... I was assigned here because the word "bomb" has been used frequently.
I am undercover
pure veldt
i am here legally
latent cairn
schh
opaque hinge
BOMB HE SAID BOMB
pure veldt
there are no spy activities going on
opaque hinge
TACKLE HIM
latent cairn
🕵
opaque hinge
nethrex has left the server
pure veldt
taze and trigger it!
opaque hinge
hello NSA
solid hinge
shot obj full of smoke and this legend just mowed down whole squad
latent cairn
solid hinge
spray? no
opaque hinge
especially on operations when u can see bomb carrier through walls
pure veldt
tracers comin through smoke = LMG lay down the law lol
opaque hinge
op as fuck
solid hinge
this was accurate firing
tight kettle
doesn't support dorito you when you hit them
latent cairn
Yagman will never know that I changed my identity mwuahaha
opaque hinge
i just spray at the little icon and get kills erry time
pure veldt
yea bomb carrier 3d perma spot is... eh
opaque hinge
oh welcome @latent cairn
solid hinge
um nope
pure veldt
i just sit prone in trees and keep raping the icon lol
tight kettle
its not perma spot
pure veldt
if it moves
latent cairn
Thank you! Iz a meh, GueGueGue
opaque hinge
you wouldn't happen to know anything about someone named nethrex would u
tight kettle
nethrex unfortunatly passed away
lucid marsh
Is it just me, or do animations for climbing sometimes feel incredibly slow and long
opaque hinge
"heart attack"
latent cairn
Who is this nerthex you are speaking of?
opaque hinge
latent cairn
opaque hinge
latent cairn
Nidu I agree, just like landing parachutes takes ages
Like... He is just doing the slowest ever burpee before you can shoot
orchid smelt
soo i asked a few days ago if anyone knows how to activate, if it's a thing you activate. this Air Raid on Devsatation https://streamable.com/45s3z
lucid marsh
I died multiple times where I have jumped over low walls thinking I'd have my gun ready earlier
latent cairn
Its scary
tight kettle
because dice logic
orchid smelt
@latent cairn it's a bit spooky
opaque hinge
lol
latent cairn
That is what you get Nick
lucid marsh
I have fallen and can't get up
tight kettle
you calling me fat BOOAAH
latent cairn
😏
opaque hinge
vaulting in frostbite is fucked
latent cairn
Its pretty cool tho, you get sad when going back to BF3 etc. when you cant even get up something 1m tall
opaque hinge
true
lucid marsh
I can get when you need to pull yourself up on the bridge even tho it feels painfully slow
But c'mon, vaulting should be fast
latent cairn
agreed
opaque hinge
well not super fast
latent cairn
takes 1-2 seconds irl
opaque hinge
but faster than it is rn
cause tbf pulling yourself irl isn't that super fast
but defs faster than it is in the game rn
lucid marsh
Or at least have the gun ready during vault
latent cairn
Yeah, but vaulting is fast. 1-2 sec
latent cairn
Yeah right after
opaque hinge
or if during then super inaccurate hip fire
cause like one handed wield
while you're trying to climb something
latent cairn
okay... depending on height and how fluid it goes, it takes 1-3 seconds to get your rifle ready after vaulting something
opaque hinge
yeah
storm gulch
Close to diving out my window when 3 medics ran past me
latent cairn
lol, yeah a bunch of people not too good with revives. Especially squad mates!
opaque hinge
that's why u go on lfg
latent cairn
Starting to think some of those randos dont know its even possible to squad revive
opaque hinge
get some good peeps
lucid marsh
SANITATER
latent cairn
You, me and that Nethrex guy
opaque hinge
no, nethrex is ded
latent cairn
oh
latent cairn
Fatal Injury or can we still revive him?
lucid marsh
I like how when you die outside the battlefield its called "desertion"
opaque hinge
yeah
i think snipers that camp in the back of the map should be killed for "desertion"
latent cairn
Cya!
unborn blaze
latent cairn
I have to disagree with you there