Yeah seems like it's only an issue on older cpus
#battlefield-legacy-titles
opaque hinge
amber notch
opaque hinge
Which sucks
amber notch
opaque hinge
Airborne
regal sapphire
Yeah older cpu's are getting whacked by this game
amber notch
i have to grind it again
lofty widget
Damn i see
amber notch
airborne
solid hinge
its grand operations
lofty widget
airborne = GRand ops
lofty widget
so confusing why they have 2 names
lofty widget
you got liquid cooling for that 4700
lofty widget
Hmm i cant see why you should have probs
opaque hinge
From 3.5
lofty widget
fast af
opaque hinge
Yeah ikr
lofty widget
Mines only at 4.5
opaque hinge
Definitely an issue with the game
lofty widget
Up to date drivers?
lofty widget
mess with hte nvidia panel?
opaque hinge
Yeah
lofty widget
I cant belkievei it
opaque hinge
Ikr
lofty widget
You have a better card
opaque hinge
I even reinstalled windows
lofty widget
and a lower resolution
and i get better frames it makes no sense
what kind of fps you get
lofty widget
what does it drop to
lofty widget
I hate it too
opaque hinge
But I have a 144hz panel
opaque hinge
So I need those extra frames :D
Ikr
I've heard apparently higher res = less cpu load and more gpu
regal sapphire
I have an rx480 and an i7 4770 and I can't even run on medium on 1080p
opaque hinge
I've been planning on getting a new 2k 144hz monitor anyways
So hopefully that'll help
lofty widget
To be honest, Ive messed with every setting under the sun. The low-med-high-ultra really dont make a huge diff performance wise
opaque hinge
Frames & resolution 😍
Yeah it doesnt, although I spike less on lower settings
So I just play on low for less lag spikes
lofty widget
luckily the BF franchise is always one of the most optimized series I feel like a month or 2 after launch
opaque hinge
Yeah
Just upset that it's still having issues even tho they delayed launch by 1 month
lofty widget
I wish they would've delayed till March hoenstly.
regal sapphire
Wait wtf even on low I'm having problems
lofty widget
Coutin same fps drops?
regal sapphire
I thought my settings were on medium
opaque hinge
I'd commit seppuku
regal sapphire
Oh even worse
opaque hinge
What were your settings on
regal sapphire
Low, and I'm still struggling
I was playing devastation a few hours ago on 25% res scale and I was getting 30fps
opaque hinge
regal sapphire
Rn I'm on low on narvik struggling to maintain 60fps
compact oxide
I turned dx12 after the patch and it's helped a lot for frames
opaque hinge
unreal bobcat
Anyone know if the MG42 is better than the MG34?
opaque hinge
Dx12 on?
compact oxide
Now I'm getting closer to 100
opaque hinge
Helped performance?
lofty widget
dx12 should always be off honestly. unless you have new rtx cards
regal sapphire
I might try DX12
opaque hinge
what
regal sapphire
Everyone's talking about it
compact oxide
Yeah no stutters 
opaque hinge
What card
regal sapphire
Don't have anything to lose at this point, game already runs bad lol
compact oxide
I've got a 1080 though
lofty widget
true
compact oxide
I did have it bluescreen once though so 
blazing grove
anyone else get rubber banding on Fjell 652?
regal sapphire
I had a blue screen with DX11
lofty widget
@blazing grove Usually due to temporary lag
opaque hinge
Huh I'm on a 1080ti
solid hinge
You @regal sapphire
opaque hinge
I might try dx12 then
regal sapphire
RX480 with an I7 4770
blazing grove
@lofty widget it wont even let me switch to my pistol
solid hinge
Hmm
regal sapphire
The support team was useless aswell lol
lofty widget
@blazing grove are you lagging in anything elkse? discord? speed test?
regal sapphire
I like how even EA reccomends you turn off Origin inside games lol
opaque hinge
Idk @compact oxide said it helped him on his 1080
blazing grove
@lofty widget no, and my ping in-game is around 27
solid hinge
Oh I always turn off overlays and shit, they almost always have some effect on performance
lofty widget
@compact oxide What cpu?
regal sapphire
I've tried everything at this point, even did a clean reinstall of the latest drivers
blazing grove
it only happens on this map
lofty widget
@blazing grove the game is buggy af sorry mate
opaque hinge
Ddu?
regal sapphire
Yep
opaque hinge
Damn
compact oxide
@lofty widget I'm still on a 5820K
tiny lantern
realest way to uninstall drivers 👌
opaque hinge
Your gpu is @regal sapphire couti?
blazing grove
@regal sapphire mine is the opposite, always around 40%
regal sapphire
CPU*
opaque hinge
Ok
regal sapphire
My GPU is at 50ish yeah
lofty widget
Hmm seems like yea i guess you guys need a cpu optimization patch
opaque hinge
Yes we do
regal sapphire
There are people with i7 7800ks complaining about 100% usage of CPUs lol
opaque hinge
:D
solid hinge
while sprinting
compact oxide
@amber notch aww, I guess I'll need them to fix mine too then 😛
opaque hinge
U have to run for long enough @solid hinge
solid hinge
Its just janky as all hell
compact oxide
Now I can't rub it in 
lofty widget
theres a slide?
opaque hinge
Cant sprint 1 sec then slide
solid hinge
doesnt matter whether i run for 1 minute or 10 sec
solid hinge
double clicking crouch doesnt do anything
solid hinge
havent see anyone else doing it either
compact oxide
Sliding is screwed with the timing of the double tap
solid hinge
maybe its bugged
opaque hinge
Reset controls to default and try again?
solid hinge
I like how pointless heavy tanks are atm. The amount of damage the panzerfaust does to its frontal armour is insane
regal sapphire
I'm on DX12 now
opaque hinge
I love wrecking tanks with my panzerfaust
solid hinge
I've had it up to 40
regal sapphire
Best way to take one out is flanking, which I love that
Eh, armor values are probably bugged too
solid hinge
I hate it. Tanks feel far weaker than in the Beta
opaque hinge
Or just suicide at front
solid hinge
I dunno what they did
lofty widget
tanks are perfect I feel, the panzer is the prob
regal sapphire
The Churchill is really strong
opaque hinge
Nooo dont nerf my panzerfaust
solid hinge
They felt more balanced in the Beta imo
regal sapphire
I've had tanks completely dominate matches
solid hinge
Light tanks, sure
regal sapphire
They just need to know what they're doing
solid hinge
Cause mobility is everything atm
regal sapphire
Nah, it was a Churchill
solid hinge
Unless you have a squad stickin with you
orchid iris
Coutin overclock if you can, also look into disabling Spectre and meltdown patch, easy 15-20% increase from disabling that
lofty widget
Tanks should be supplmentary to ground forces. I've moved in with my team and wrecked. If i go in solo, its over. instantly
solid hinge
I almost solely played with the Tiger 1 during the beta, and I adored that thing
this time round it feels weaker
solid hinge
do i have to do support mastery assignment with the support class???
opaque hinge
Having same issue as @regal sapphire
regal sapphire
I'm running DX12 on low with my setup on 40fps lol
full nimbus
Mastery Assignments give you various unlocks
opaque hinge
U sir may be my savior
orchid iris
Google it, on phone. Older CPUs get murdered by the patches
full nimbus
For weapons, its the Gold Plated skins
opaque hinge
Ty
solid hinge
...
amber notch
the class mastery assignments give you the epic skins
solid hinge
What the hell is "Spectre and meltdown patch"
solid hinge
ik i unlocked support mastery it says deal 5k ish damage .. so do i have to do it with support only?
amber notch
Support fixed mine as they were bugged, just have to grind them again
solid hinge
i dont even have these assignments?
amber notch
@solid hinge yes
solid hinge
are they random?
amber notch
playing support
solid hinge
oh
amber notch
no
solid hinge
rip
amber notch
they arent random
solid hinge
Canis Horribilis is a brilliant outfit
regal sapphire
I7 4770 is supposed to run at 3.4ghz, I'm running it on 3.8
amber notch
recon gives you the gas mask
opaque hinge
Yeah I just googled the patches
orchid iris
alright, hopped back on computer for a sec
amber notch
recon gives you canis horriblis
solid hinge
Im also running a 4770 @regal sapphire
amber notch
same with union jack
opaque hinge
Says anyone with Haswell or below will experience slowdowns
compact oxide
Canis horribilis is actually the only thing you ever need
full nimbus
@solid hinge Spectre and Meltdown are the exploits found in Intel CPU that can be used to either crash (melt) your PC or insert more sinister backdoor
orchid iris
so with older CPUs they basicaly have to run virtualization ontop of the CPU to avoid an exploit which raelly kills performance, newer CPUs are just engineered to not have the issue
solid hinge
where do i get the union jack assigment then
I swear the Germans had ballistic masks in the beta
its not there
did they remove them?
Or just not in atm
amber notch
same of the classes in the beta had cool cosmetics
they will probably come out when they game is released
solid hinge
i only get Currency and weapon skin assignments
what the hell
Im gonna guess they'll add them in later
amber notch
The cosmetics will be awesome tbh
orchid iris
and use this tool https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm
solid hinge
also in this vid https://youtu.be/9zMN9BT55lY i can see many outfits that cant be found in the game rn . are they not released?
regal sapphire
How are you running it Goat?
compact oxide
There's also a bunch of guns in SP that aren't in MP so I assume they'll get added later
regal sapphire
Yeah that makes no sense then..
solid hinge
Also 3.8ghz
@amber notch
oh
hey dice devs, just wanna say thank you so much for making this game, ive been playing for 5 straight hours abd ive loved every second!
orchid iris
you just disable it, restart, and you should get a huge boost. The exploit doesnt really matter for us typical home users, it just lets a virus move from one process into another, which would be huge for like, if you were a cloud computing hoster or something, becuase I could start a process and then move into the like host machines process, and any other companies stuff that happens to be running on the same host, etc. but for a home user... if you got a virus of that level of sofistication, you are already f'd so badly its not worth worrying about
regal sapphire
I know the 1070 is a better card, but not by that much
solid hinge
can u move this to tech please
opaque hinge
So @orchid iris u just run that tool
solid hinge
Whats your card? @regal sapphire
regal sapphire
RX480
solid hinge
and hows the game running for ya
amber notch
THOSE LOOK COOL ASF
solid hinge
yeah ik pow
neon loom
Are we getting more outfits at launch?
solid hinge
lol
regal sapphire
Oh yeah I remember that
orchid iris
run tool, click disable spectre, disable meltdown, exit, restart computer, profit
solid hinge
POW i also noticed that the tanker in the game rn wears one of these unreleased outfits
regal sapphire
I was like what in the actual hell is the Stag's blood thing
opaque hinge
Ty so much
regal sapphire
Is it safe though Jason?
lunar lion
its not leaks at the launch event they had everything unlocked on those accounts
solid hinge
Im on a 1070, could run it at ultra but I dropped certain options because they can hinder your ability to see people
unreal bobcat
I'm a support player, on Ps4
Who needs one xD
pallid crystal
Hey just a question, if I am using Origin Access to play BF1 can I buy the premium pass and play it while renting the game.
opaque hinge
I'll run that tomorrow about to go to bed and on mobile and let u know how it worked out
solid hinge
@amber notch
opaque hinge
Not at my pc rn
neon loom
I'm still trying to figure out how to get outfits. I can only buy like 2 basic ones and 2 special assignment ones. Everyone on YouTube has a bunch more that I don't even have the option to purchase
solid hinge
yup
amber notch
those look cool asf
pallid crystal
Okay sweet
orchid iris
that's for you to decide, security has trade offs, you have to think whwta kind of attack are you really trying to prevent here, attacks from another nation state level of sophistication? Like, that's some crazy level shit, most likely not... just the run of the mill botnet and keylogger shit. If someone was putting a virus with that level on your computer... I mean they willg et your damn data lol, it's not worth the trade off
unreal bobcat
@pallid crystal games I was in yes lots of dogfights
sacred junco
flakpanzers seem to scare people
orchid iris
if they are taht determined, they are getting what they wanted
pallid crystal
And is there a mode/going to be
sacred junco
it doesnt do much dmg but they can shoot instantly
solid hinge
@amber notch yeah i noticed that the tanker class in the game rn wears on of those outfits
pallid crystal
For air dogfights
sacred junco
so it seems to be pretty effective at overwatching and scaring people in cover
solid hinge
mostly fighters trying to take out bombers tho
unreal bobcat
@pallid crystal no clue if there will be
I took out a bomber with that Grenade Pistol launcher on Support
meager sundial
I’m assuming we’re meant to buy all the weapon skins that aren’t unlocked via challenges like Blued?
opaque hinge
Night
neon loom
@meager sundial I would think so. Do you know how to get the outfits?
Goodnight Coffin!
unreal bobcat
If you need a Support on Ps4 just DM, I do my job well & kill alot of people
regal sapphire
I tried doing the no please no against a flakpanzer
Lets say I didn't get out of there
unreal bobcat
@regal sapphire never ends well
meager sundial
I got some cool outfits for completing an assignment after getting Level 20 on Recon, no idea about anything else though @neon loom
neon loom
@meager sundial Ok. I'm hoping that the outfits that the EA Game Changers got footage of at Stokholm will be in the game at full release
Because I'm really interested in them and no body seems to know
meager sundial
Sure they will be
neon loom
I just don't understand why they aren't in now
sacred junco
Doing pretty well with the MP40 so far
solid hinge
December is pretty big for BFV, though Im a bit disappointed the BR mode isnt coming till March
Just hope its worth it
meager sundial
They don’t want you to have everything immediately
sacred junco
Dunno if Medic is really underpowered in the current state
brave locust
when half the team is snipers on offense i just insta quit
neon loom
@meager sundial That makes sense. That's probably where the leaves on the sniper skins went
brave locust
just not worth playing the damn game at that point
solid hinge
Honestly the only way I play sniper is by taking off the scope and using it as more of a rifleman
meager sundial
I’m typically top 3 as recon but people don’t seem to switch if they are trash as recon
solid hinge
Its more fun imo
meager sundial
Right?? I want that skin so badly @neon loom
brave locust
watching martini henry vids is the only thing that makes me want to play sniper
meager sundial
I use the 6x and have 1000 kills with 93% headshot ratio lol
brave locust
also to countersnipe the damn guy who sniped me 5 times already
meager sundial
If you don’t know how to play recon, sure
solid hinge
Nah, even if you do
Its still a sniper, and if you have the eyes for it then its only improving the weapon
Faster firing
no glint
meager sundial
I can tell you don’t play much Recon
solid hinge
I can tell you're a purist who cant understand that other people play in different ways
tiny lantern
lul, I guess I don't know how to play recon since I am a chad 1x iron sight recon. Yikes.
fiery pier
anyone having ping spikes?
solid hinge
Legit, play it however you want
dont discount other people for not doing what you do
That reminds me, doesn't the assault class get the SMLE ?
amber notch
there are cosmetics that arent in the game yet
i think its that
its like a gas mask on the top
sacred junco
oh wow just realized
French wore Adrian Helmets, British wore Brodies
Adrian Brodie(y)
solid hinge
Personally I like the Stahlhelm more
It's such a nice looking helmet
The Germans in general have some really nice gear
pallid crystal
Hey just a question, if I am using Origin Access to play BF1 can I buy the premium pass and play it while renting the game.
solid hinge
Uh, I believe so? Dont quote me on that though
You have full access to the game, so I dont see why not
amber notch
kms
pallid crystal
I just wanna play the dang dog fighta
amber notch
i did the first one in seconds
lol
had to kill 20 people in 1 round
that was easy
used the ZH 29
karmic pivot
Tanks feel so awkward. Managing the 3 perspectives... also very sensitive to terrain. Maybe intended, have to stop in order to shoot
solid hinge
They're not as infallible as they were in BF1 or BF4
Definitely more of a support vehicle atm, while also being capable of mowing people down
Though I still believe its too easy to destroy the heavy tanks
sacred junco
yeah its pretty similar to War Thunder Arcade controls
where you can't exactly scoot and shoot accurately
jovial forge
I treat tanks how I would in World of tanks due to the unsynch 3rd pov
indigo lodge
hello there
indigo lodge
I got a appcrash on my bfv
karmic pivot
Its different for sure. I think ill like the playstyle, but the optics are just uncomfortable. The zoom should be like how you zoom on the auxiliary turret. Not a full screen optic with a wonky triangle
indigo lodge
can I get some help here?
karmic pivot
Could be your cpu ram gpu clocks
sacred junco
have you updated the driver?
indigo lodge
yea the newest
karmic pivot
What r ur specs
karmic pivot
Disable dx 12
karmic pivot
Restart ur computer try again
sacred junco
how about windows updates
karmic pivot
R u crashing on loadin the map or lauching the game
indigo lodge
@sacred junco I updated it yesterday
its 1809
@karmic pivot just in-game. it crashes about 2 seconds later
well thanks ur helping
karmic pivot
Hows ur performance?
sacred junco
do you OC?
lofty widget
I doubt he OC his laptop ha
karmic pivot
Happened to me in bf1 testing different overclocks
amber notch
indigo lodge
sorry but what is OC
karmic pivot
Yikes
indigo lodge
@karmic pivot medium all
lofty widget
OC = Overclock
amber notch
i now have two of the same assignments
lofty widget
If you dont know, more than likely you aren't.
amber notch
lol
sacred junco
can you show your crash event
amber notch
wtf
karmic pivot
Try single player
amber notch
i have two canis horrbilis
indigo lodge
I haven't change it so I think it defult
karmic pivot
Try single player @indigo lodge
indigo lodge
@karmic pivot same problems
lofty widget
your laptop is plugged in with hte power setting to "max power"?
lofty widget
And you have 'Use dedicated GPU (graphics card - Your 1050) instead of internal GPU set?
indigo lodge
@lofty widget yes
lofty widget
And the game crashes when?
karmic pivot
Monitor your hardware, your PC is closing the game because its requesting too much power
When he loads in
karmic pivot
I think map
lofty widget
Yea. Redbar is probably right. Something is basically saying "i dont have enough"
brittle abyss
indigo lodge
@lofty widget just game loaded
lofty widget
You need to turn on borderless mode. And bring up Task manager then recreate crash
Watch CPU/GPU/RAM. Whichever is the weak point will usually skyrocket then fall dramtically
My guess its your cpu
indigo lodge
ok I will take your advice
is it too weak for this?
I can play when open beta and origin access
solid hinge
lofty widget
It shouldn't be. But the game is having alot of problem for alot of users right now.
solid hinge
sell function will prob be in the game bois
indigo lodge
@lofty widget hope dice will fix it
lofty widget
They usually do
karmic pivot
I mean, your laptop might not be able to run it
The beta is one thing
That was like a fifth of the game
tiny lantern
wait, Deluxe players are supposed to get some XP bonus right? And it doesn't come till 20th?
lofty widget
Technically it should be easier to run than better honestly.
I only gained since beta
indigo lodge
@karmic pivot but the game trail is same to currently edition
It wroks just a week before
lofty widget
Hmm did you download those new drivers from nvidia?
They couldve messed something up with your shit
scenic musk
should i buy bf5 or just stick with bf1?
lofty widget
Its really really hard to sday because any number of things could be the problem.
BF5 is way better. If you dont want to spend 60$ just buy 1 month of Origin access for 15$ and then cancel the next day
regal sapphire
Yeah welt, if you want to try it out first do the Origin access thing
lofty widget
Bf5 for 15$ AND 156 other AAA games for amonth
indigo lodge
bf1 got too many hax in asian severs
lofty widget
Also spotting. And really flat maps.
karmic pivot
I dunno your gonna have to spend some time trial and erroring things/changes and googling ur symptoms so u can narrow down the issue, we cant really help, this sub might want to add a tech support channel
indigo lodge
@karmic pivot you are right
karmic pivot
Could go at this for hours you have to diagnose the problems and thats half the battle then you gotta figure out how to fix it
lofty widget
^
karmic pivot
Does it give u any info after the crash
Or just closes it? You can try repairing the game files on the origin client
indigo lodge
yes it shows me a crash report
karmic pivot
K type that report in at google
lofty widget
or take a pic and private message me
ooof that sounded dirty
Im not from India but I can help
rapid veldt
brave cypress
Are they gonna fix the bug that breaks ADS after you spawn on a tank?
indigo lodge
i got this on google
@lofty widget anyway thanks for your halping. if I can't find anyting helpful by myself I will send it to you
lofty widget
ok
indigo lodge
hope u guys have a nice game in bfv
lofty widget
One wouldnt hurt
karmic pivot
Ive been trying to do this with the snipers in bfv. Impossible. Aggresive recon is dead https://gfycat.com/questionableblissfulchevrotain
elder trench
so im having a problem when i try to launch bfv it says ''too many computers have accessed this accounts version of displayname field missing from registry'' has this happened to anybody else?
fiery hemlock
anyone want a game of bf1?
lofty widget
@karmic pivot Screw that flatass map.
dusk yoke
3x scope is savage
compact oxide
The problem is that the other fast fire rate guns have basically been buffed since bf1 whereas snipers have gotten weaker (for body shots)
dusk yoke
i dont disagree
compact oxide
3x is eh as it has glint and lights you up like a Christmas tree
dusk yoke
but something about the mechanics of this game has made me really enjoy sniping
compact oxide
I've been enjoying going for the double tap with fallback to sidearm but you're at an extreme disadvantage compared to any other class that can just spray in your general direction and beat you
It's just sad 
south lynx
Just throw knives. Problem solved.
compact oxide
I don't want snipers to be religated to camping the edge of the map
brave locust
giants shadow is fun but i feel like 95% of the fighting happens at the blimp
and the rest is backcaps
woven badge
Does anyone know any videos for beginners to watch? BFV is my first battlefield game
tiny lantern
m1 carbine is disgustingly accurate lmao
compact oxide
It's perfectly accurate like every gun in the game
tiny lantern
i love it
south lynx
@woven badge You could watch jackfrags for general gameplay.
M1 resets fast and has minimal recoil though.
woven badge
I’ll take a look at it.
south lynx
It's purely vertical and returns to zero before you can pull the trigger again.
woven badge
Thank you.
south lynx
Not like say, G43, which has that weird V-pattern recoil and doesn't fully reset before it can fire again.
fresh garnet
if they made the guns really authentic, ppl would complain
pallid crystal
So I downloaded BFV overnight and it started wasting 9 hours and 40 minutes of my trial...... I woke up and was pretty disappointed. Asked customer service for more time and they said no...................................
south lynx
If they made the planes authentic I'd be ecstatic.
lofty widget
have you bought it lunar
pallid crystal
no it was origin access basic
south lynx
BF's weird plane physics are the bane of my existence right now.
pallid crystal
thinking of getting premier
lofty widget
Ah, just spend 15$ get a months worth. you cancel right after and keep the month. Plus you get a ton of other games access
south lynx
I have a full HOTAS setup.
lofty widget
Ooof i cant wait to get a joystick
south lynx
I can fly them fine, I just can't fight worth a damn.
fresh garnet
you have a full on flight sim rig
solid hinge
is anyone else game blurry like 5 feet in front of the charecter the aa and post proccing is horrible
fresh garnet
thats intense lol
south lynx
I play IL-2, DCS, Falcon BMS and a bit of War Thunder.
calm meteor
guy bails out just before shooting him down
south lynx
I'm used to flight models that try to be realistic.
compact oxide
There's forced aa in this game
amber notch
south lynx
Battlefield throws physics out the window and headshots it before it hits the ground.
amber notch
south lynx
Plus their freelook functionality is actually criminal.
solid hinge
are they gonna remove force aa ?
compact oxide
I prefer the hat with Ingrid so you get to see that lovely face @amber notch
south lynx
I feel like someone needs to strap DICE dev into first person only planes until they make a useable camera.
tiny lantern
nice one POW
compact oxide
calm meteor
also slam my mosquito into a mountainside, wierd bounce and keep on flying
belly tap a field while pulling out of a dive? ded
south lynx
Yep.
I think the thing that gets me the most is that neither turn rate nor energy retention behave at all realistically.
There's some weird sweet spot for turns where you somehow get a maximum rate of turn, and going to a higher velocity yields substantially lower turn rate.
fresh garnet
well good thing , i hate planes
if the flight was good, theyd be a real pain in the ass
south lynx
Also energy behavior in loops is fucky.
They're a real pain in the ass anyways.
Good players go 50-0 no problem.
And bombers are actual cancer.
DICE fucked up balancing them again.
They can tank AA guns indefinitely pretty much.
And only fighters stand a chance of killing them. But you either need perfect tracking and multiple weapon overheat cycles, or one of a few stupidly powerful unlocks only available to certain planes, or you'll be gnawing on them for minutes.
Spit Va with 8x .303s and 100% hit rate can down a bomber in one heat cycle, 109 G-6 with minengeschoss (sp?) can do it in one cycle, and the rockets can do it in a full volley if they hit.
Everything else needs to fire cannons until they overheat, swap to MGs, fire until they overheat, and then swap back to cannons and finish it off.
And I'm not talking about with my shitty gunnery skills. That's what pros have been doing to kill the damned things.
Me, I just flail at them ineffectually until they drag me over AA and I get shot down.
tiny lantern
damn, I can see why M1 Carbine is not the assault default rifle. Imagine the learning curve if it was.
south lynx
What learning curve?
pure veldt
game was 0 secs for like 10 minutes
south lynx
M1 is a point-click-annihilate cannon.
tiny lantern
read what I said again 
thorn heart
BFV is way too quiet compared to BF1
not enough music/ambiance
like BF1 ops would have guys screaming and whistling
i really miss that
south lynx
BFV has people screaming all the time.
thorn heart
i mean like when you move a sector in ops
it would play music and everyone would start screaming in a charge
south lynx
And any match with planes has a pretty steady soundtrack of bombs going off, either on your head or all over the enemy.
Oh.
solid hinge
the fuckin Stuka horns are terrifying
lime stirrup
I'm kinda confused why they have conquest as part of grand ops. If I wanted to play conquest I'd queue for it
solid hinge
what did you have to change?
jovial forge
I thought grand ops was a mix bowl of stuff set up over ingame days
solid hinge
It is
regal sapphire
Turn off discord, and turn off some shitty windows thing that kept draining 20% of my cpu
I'm running on high now!
tiny lantern
thorn heart
yeah i kinda dislike grand ops now
fiery hemlock
@solid hinge PC
thorn heart
and the 3rd day back and forth tug which is jusst BF1 frontlines is boring
but days 1 and 2 are fine
breakthrough and the objective bomb plants is all i wanted
quiet idol
Where do i equip the class proficiency assignments?
violet locust
@quiet idol under the Assignments screen on the Home Screen
quiet idol
Yeah the proficiency isn't showing
level 10 on support, don't know why it isn't there. I'll try one more level
regal sapphire
I actually got goosebumps playing BF5 lol
tiny lantern
same
solid hinge
One thing I found stupidly cool is when the blizzard rolls in on the snow map
and you're fighting half blind
south lynx
Plus it stops the bomber spam from blasting you off the mountain.
Don't care what it does to infantry visibility really, but fuck bombers. Watching them run into the mountain is great.
Or well, hearing mostly.
solid hinge
Also playing Rotterdam and Rotterdam destroyed
is a really cool concept
I kind of hope they add in some iconic battles. Stalingrad for one
that would be an awesome city map
south lynx
Eh. Devastation is pretty meh.
solid hinge
Im not too keen on D Day if only because I feel like it'd be ridiculously open
south lynx
Stalingrad would just be Devastation-but-larger.
south lynx
I'm not a fan of it being heavily laned like that.
solid hinge
There's enough nooks and crannies to allow flanking
it's not like
Metro
or somethin
though personally my favourite map is Arras right now
south lynx
It's still pretty obnoxious IMO. Plus there are a load of unnecessary bits that just screw vehicles harder than a tight urban map already does.
solid hinge
to each their own i suppose
south lynx
Like the pile of girders near E that mean if you go NE from the vehicle resupply you can't get back to it.
It's there purely as a one-way barrier to vehicles.
Infantry can step right over it.
And you can drive over it in one direction no problem.
jovial forge
Anyone else get the issue of not being able to move or swap class at the beginning of the next match?
regal sapphire
What do you guys think the best pistol is?
jovial forge
Gotta take a death just to get in game
regal sapphire
I'm loving the luger
south lynx
Arras is pretty nice except on frontlines.
It's terrible on frontlines because one jackass on your team can ruin the whole match.
solid hinge
I tend to like revolvers for the cool factor
even if in gameplay they tend to be meh
south lynx
Defending team is pretty much guaranteed to have two bombers up. If your plane pilot doesn't pull a fighter and know what they're doing, your entire team gets farmed for the entire match.
south lynx
Because you get a single AA gun and AA is literally worthless against bombers.
solid hinge
Yeah whats up with that
Im fine with it doing less damage since the bombers are slow as sin
but like, they do no damage
south lynx
CQ is where it's at. Grand ops needs to be dialed in, too many badly asymmetric setups.
compact oxide
@regal sapphire Ruby is best pistol ❤
jovial forge
Spitfire with 8x .303 guns is legit
regal sapphire
Ruby sucks ass!
thorn heart
@south lynx one sided ops are always gonna be a thing
@regal sapphire all the pistols suck ass so far
regal sapphire
I can't for the life of me get a kill with the ruby
I love the luger, best by far
thorn heart
i dont even bother i just reload
lime stirrup
Ruby is my favourite, I tried using the revolver for a good few hours but it's too slow
regal sapphire
The P38 isnt that bad
thorn heart
pulling the pistols out takes soo long
compact oxide
The ruby is similar to the Frommer/Taschen from bf1
thorn heart
@compact oxide yeah
compact oxide
Which were my go tos
thorn heart
which sucks
regal sapphire
Not really, hipfire isn't that good
south lynx
I'm partial to the 1911 for the looks, it doesn't really feel like performance is tremendously different between pistols though.
thorn heart
if they were just gonna bring all the BF1 pistols back atleast keep them as is
regal sapphire
Luger hipfire is alot better, and general recoil too
thorn heart
the ruby (MLE) was pretty good
compact oxide
I never hipfire with pistols 
compact oxide
Which is why I want them to add the ability to put a true 1x zoom on the pistols
south lynx
I'm enjoying it aside from the planes.
thorn heart
i spent too much money on games this month
solid hinge
Im more excited for BFV because, you know, no more premium
thorn heart
100 dollars for forza 4, RDR2, and BFV
thorn heart
@solid hinge im honestly afraid just because of what happened with battlefront 2
regal sapphire
The sten really sucks at range
thorn heart
its disgusting how neglected it got
south lynx
Tanks are mostly pretty good, infantry feels solid. Planes are just...awkward.
solid hinge
I mean they're capable of learning, even if it takes them longer than it should
thorn heart
theyve done it since BF4
violet locust
Are you sure the Sten sucks at range? Pretty sure I've been laser beamed by it a few times
solid hinge
They finally realised the premium model was bad
The UPGRADED sten is a beasr
beast*
lime stirrup
I get killed by the sten at range all the time
thorn heart
premium model was good other than diving the fanbase
south lynx
Sten's major downside at range is the low bullet velocity.
pure veldt
medic weaps can be stupid lethal after correct paths...
solid hinge
the default sten is good, but not great
thorn heart
my sten was already fully upgraded on the paths
regal sapphire
Spent 24 bullets one one guy 30m away and did 70 damage
thorn heart
and i didnt even touch it, it was after my first match
regal sapphire
Twice lol
pure veldt
i wouldnt admit to that ;D
south lynx
The starting weapons come with a default spec.
thorn heart
oh
south lynx
But you can't change it until you get them to rank 4 and can respec.
thorn heart
whats the point then what the hell
stupid
so basically the maxxed out path sten is the default sten
south lynx
It's so new players a month or two down the road don't get thrown up against level 50s with all guns specced out.
thorn heart
@south lynx right but whats the point of even having the upgrade tree
south lynx
No, the default Sten is one possible upgrade path.
thorn heart
going back to default is one of the dumbest things you could possibly do then
south lynx
The spec tree lets you customize your guns a bit.
jovial forge
Really hating this catch up mechanic though on conquest
thorn heart
its not like that on the other guns though right
south lynx
The respec doesn't make you re-earn everything.
thorn heart
idk this shit doesnt make any sense to me
south lynx
Once you've fully specced a gun once you can respec it for free endlessly.
thorn heart
it was fine how it was on the beta other than needing a respec
south lynx
Same with vehicles.
jovial forge
Hopefully devs have learn to to overdo easter eggs
thorn heart
@jovial forge wdym
jovial forge
I meant not over do easter eggs
thorn heart
BF1 easter eggs were a piece of cake
jovial forge
Phone auto corrected lol
south lynx
TBH I hope they patch up some of the weaker vehicle abilities. Incendiary launcher and flare launcher are rubbish.
thorn heart
BF4 phantom program was tough as nails
lime stirrup
The phantom operative in bf4 was amazing, I'd love to see something like that again
jovial forge
BF1 smaller easter eggs were fine.
jovial forge
It's that Master Man that went to far
thorn heart
masterman was easy dude i used a morse app to translate it all for me
lime stirrup
I was in jack frags server doing the hunt with them, was fun as shit
proud bough
Anyone know how to fix the “Unlocks next round” bug for some weapons in BFV?
thorn heart
@proud bough you have to play through the whole round make sure you dont leave during
or else you will never get it
jovial forge
Lucky you, folks I ask kept misleading me and still havent dont the chateau
lime stirrup
when we finally got the elevator unlocked and got the bow, awesome stuff
proud bough
I played through 2 whole rounds
jovial forge
Even no people still enter a population 1 soisson server
thorn heart
@jovial forge a conflict was a little tricky but i did that in like 2 hours
proud bough
I had this problem with the po8 early on but I still got it at some point
compact oxide
@proud bough then after that you can leave and get it from the menu
jovial forge
Now*
olive fulcrum
These console load times are ridiculous
proud bough
@compact oxide I still don’t have it tho
thorn heart
@olive fulcrum for real though
it was pretty bad on BF1 too but we had cutscenes and stuff to ease the pain
olive fulcrum
It’s been like 5 minutes of me staring at a black screen
compact oxide
If it says unlocks next round then you can leave and it's unlocked in the menu
proud bough
I’m telling you right now the STG isn’t unlocked for me
thorn heart
load times cut down a lot when you use external storage
USB 3.0 is faster than the internal console drives
proud bough
Lvl 13, don’t have it in the company tab
jovial forge
@thorn heart logic puzzles are my bane. However I tend to give up n leave once p show up blaster me consistently
compact oxide
In that case you'll have to level up assault once more and you'll get it
proud bough
That’s pretty dumb
compact oxide
@proud bough yup
proud bough
ima just contact ea
im kinda done grinding for assault, i'd rather just ask to get the stg at this point
compact oxide
Stg is alright
proud bough
it's kinda sad how some parts of the game work fine and some are just completely broken
karmic pivot
I miss 3d spotting. It got excessive in bf1, but it changed he way you traverse the map.
Been dying too often from random enemies and the time to death doesnt even let you react.
Traveling the map and spinning in 360s is the way to go. Or just camp which seems to be encouraged
lime stirrup
hell no, they should go further and remove all spotting imo
karmic pivot
Lol people will just camp and wait then
compact oxide
The main problem I find is footsteps are too hard to hear
lime stirrup
Being able to flank without getting immediately shot is a godsend
pure veldt
you only have to quickly scan with it and then do carnage and shoot
jovial forge
I kinda like bfv spotting
karmic pivot
Dont u get it. Knowing your been spotted made u change your position and avoid camping.
jovial forge
Doesnt defy logic like how it used to be
Main issue were people spamming in general directions
karmic pivot
Also voices give away locations now which is kinda cool. But have no control over
So thats weird
lime stirrup
That's the thing though, you never had any idea if you were spotted
they really need to add a notification or icon
jovial forge
If people are shooting at you, move
compact oxide
There's not really much ways to stop camping
lofty widget
Plus you still got Q marking a spot. Super effective towards squad. Then you got spotting by suppression which I think is team wide. Then you got scouts doing their thing.
compact oxide
Making snipers underpowered makes it worse if anything IMO
lofty widget
I cant say i feel snipers are underpowered. I get sniped all the freaking time
regal sapphire
Yeah no MMGs are a very dumb idea
rocky verge
Almost got all challanges done for under no flag
karmic pivot
I dunno its early, right now the map awareness and game sense are 0. But as time goes it will get better.
People still stop mindlessly running, planning positioning and areas of the map will become more popular
lofty widget
That will never happen redbar. People will alwaysd come into this and run n gun CoD. its up to the good players to play objective
Wish it were different but you cant stop em
compact oxide
@lofty widget for close quarters they are, which is why they all camp out at the edges
lofty widget
ah gotcha your prob right there then
karmic pivot
I can guarantee on Rotterdam in a week nobody will be running thru those streats.
lofty widget
I hope
Those windows be killers
I dont play conquest tho. Only the more team oritented modes
Conquest is always a cluster circle jerk
compact oxide
Operations gets to be a stalemate I find
karmic pivot
Too choke pointy for me. I like to traverse the map
regal sapphire
Why is dice encouraging camping instead of discouraging it
lofty widget
People see camping....I see playing the objective....
compact oxide
The frontlines on devastation is just abysmal with all the prone campers I find
tiny lantern
Dailies bugged for me again. This time I was only able to do 1 ffs.
regal sapphire
camping with an MG34 on a bush isn't exactly ptfoing is it?
lofty widget
depends on the bush
karmic pivot
It wont be the camping as we know it. Squads will find advantageous spots, hold them, and value them
compact oxide
Yes it's defending the objective but it's so boring to either sit back and snipe for kills or run in to try and play objective and die
karmic pivot
Like the brige on rotteedam
lofty widget
I mean i play tactically with my squad
medics in the middle
we check corners and shit
but thtas just us
Had a grand ops match that went into the conquest snow map. Well i hate the circle rotation of conquest so i said you know what. Lets hold B the entire time. It was so freaking fun. We built up every fortification. And we defended that point with ours lives
I find if you play the game without a squad its all boring
boreal yoke
Agreed
compact oxide
My mates and I did that with A on Arras, had a beacon outside the flag and the only thing that got us off entirely was two tanks at once
karmic pivot
In a year, this game will play nothing like previous battlefields. Right now we are all playing it like bf1. The combat will change, the maps will be seen differently, and it might work out in end
lofty widget
Im not.
boreal yoke
Cq circle rotation is stupid and cancerous
compact oxide
It's all because of the zerg that people like to run in
karmic pivot
Well ya defendings for pussies KILL KILL KILL
compact oxide
I always try and stay as far away from our zerg as possible
lofty widget
They only use them to revive.....
pure veldt
Hamada feels worse than Sinai for sniping and just inability to push
lofty widget
I use them offensively and defenseviley
compact oxide
@pure veldt Hamada is better, it's huge but lots more cover
lofty widget
Best thing I did for BF was quit playing Conquest. There is no goal. Watching tickets bleed isnt a goal.
compact oxide
It's probably more similar to FAO with the three castle points
pure veldt
there will always be those teams that just cant advance and ruin the whole thing though 😄
lofty widget
Yea for me....it just broke internally. "Im literally just running from point to point for 20 minutes with little battles here and there till a counter reaches 0."
But some modes have an actualy tangible objective
that you can tell if you made an impact on
Thats what i love in game
compact oxide
I just like the power trip of knowing I was a big part of why my team won (if we did) 🤷
obsidian fossil
just wondering, what are overall impressions of the game as a whole?
lofty widget
The older I get. The less I care about stats and way more about the fun and getting caught up into it
karmic pivot
Yeah thats beauty of conquest is that here is no real goal. Its many different battles abound points and each little battle is either a victory or loss.
I think thats the best part of conquest. When 2 squads start battling over objectives G and forget the entire rest of the map
lofty widget
@obsidian fossil Played every single BF. This is my favorite since....BF2. But atm there a ton of bugs.
karmic pivot
Or you could sit in a hallway with 16 othwr people spamming choke points
obsidian fossil
wow
karmic pivot
Defend and attack those are the goals. Not as cool as artillery sabotage for sure
obsidian fossil
if I got deluxe edition now, would I still be able to play early?
lofty widget
Those are objectives not goals
karmic pivot
They are what u make em
halcyon bone
lofty widget
@obsidian fossil Im not sure. But for 15$ you can buy a month of Origin early access and play. then buy or keep subbing if you like
alot cheaper than 60$ imo
karmic pivot
Its the same thing, operation goals are just more evolving which is cool because it changes how the map works for each team
obsidian fossil
thanks for the info :) im gonna buy me some bf
lofty widget
Redbar another part of it is Im 26. and I have playted conquest in every single BF title. Im just burnt on out it
Yea but the main diff. is you can see way more impact in operations as a single player/squad.
If you go on an objective. Then do amazing. You can literally carry for a moment in the battlefield.
Hard to do that in conquest Especially with those new dumbass rules they put in
karmic pivot
Yeah me too, ive actually never been a conquest fan and im forcing myself to see it differently. It is fucking infuriating tho sometimes. Maybe this new style in battlefield 5 will improve it.
lofty widget
Ive alwas been a conquest fan. I just see the 'Loop' now. and cant unsee it
karmic pivot
Like losing the one u just left and its all built up is kinda funny
karmic pivot
I think it will come with time. Provably teams will value the 3 closest etc. Vehicles wont just drive off to a random node
lofty widget
People still driving tanks like lone wolves too
karmic pivot
Its early man guilty
lofty widget
Get your ass in line, soldier.
Its Hard to take a step back and play the game slower.
But its so much better imo.
karmic pivot
Im hopeful, i think the future of bfv is exciting. Happy i got my money worth and first time in awhile im happy with a game purchase
Gnight gamets
Gamers
solid hinge
the airborne desert map
christ
You cant see shit
2 chokepoints
It is truly awful
jovial forge
Apparently there is a trophy called Globetrotter on bfv.
Play conquest on each of the launch maps...
I hate that one already
blissful otter
Why?
jovial forge
Majority rule voting will ruin challenges like that one
Did you not see how bad it was in BF1?
blissful otter
There will be map voting??
jovial forge
It was in one of the articles that it will be returning unfortunately
solid hinge
I really hope that they don't change the game to be another BF1
see alot of posts on the forums that want changes like slower ttk and more ammunition
regal sapphire
Apparently Panzerstorm looks like shit
south lynx
TTK is fantastic right now, and if you're out of ammo you need to aim more and spray less.
regal sapphire
Yeah no it's fine the way it is rn
silk flax
Yes, I am for sure loving it.
south lynx
Or just find a damned resupply station.
Literally the only thing that ever runs out of ammo that feels like it shouldn't is the Tiger.
blissful otter
Fuck anyone that wanted more ammo from the beta
south lynx
Because 18 rounds vs 24+ for every other tank.
blissful otter
It was fine as is there
silk flax
There are so many ways to get your ammo as long as you're actually using it as anything other than handfuls of candy.
blissful otter
I just avoid tanks all together
south lynx
Most of them are good. Tiger is ass.
silk flax
ALong with that stuff so you just can't stick things to them... damn.
regal sapphire
Ammo rn is really good
silk flax
I wish I could give them money out of my wallet to get my thompson right now lol
cerulean finch
Bomber hopefully het nerfed soon
south lynx
Zimmerit is kinda pointless. If someone's close enough to dynamite you, you're already doomed.
regal sapphire
I don't think any gameplay things really need to change
silk flax
That's what I'm doing @blissful otter , looks so good.
regal sapphire
I'd honestly be happy if they just scrapped the concept of MMGs but idk
silk flax
Can you guys add me on ORigin @ SheerSonicBlue, need some folks that play later at night since I'm working nights.
regal sapphire
Some gun balancing would be cool but core gameplay is 👌
south lynx
I have a minor list of changes I'd like to see. Aside from my pet hates, I'd like to see Hamada given an ammo cache at the vehicle spawn. It's weird that it's the only map where the vehicle spawn doesn't have a cache.
compact oxide
They should make firing an mmg spot yourself 😈
regal sapphire
Oh Hamada should be completely reworked, that map is so shit
south lynx
Incendiary and flare launchers on the vehicles could use some love, right now they're a complete waste of a spec slot.
silk flax
That's a really good idea I think @compact oxide
blissful otter
Just make so when you fire any mmg you take 1 dmg for each shot
south lynx
Firing an MMG basically spots you anyways. Big tracer beam.
south lynx
Hamada doesn't need a complete rework, just some tweaks.
silk flax
lmao @blissful otter !!
regal sapphire
Oh I hate it, I always quit when it comes up
blissful otter
shots mg42 for 1 sec
kills himself