sniper hit me
#battlefield-legacy-titles
broken glade
solid hinge
if your getting spawn camped
"camping" in 2018
try spawning somewhere else
reminds me of the old days
zinc vessel
If you are defending on frontlines then it makes sense to make a defensive position or "camp"
dim gazelle
Ppl are judt playing sniper or lmg
solid hinge
or moving in a different direction
pale spade
Just backcap them, always the solution
dim gazelle
Medics are strong too and addaultd too
solid hinge
i see more assault and medic tbh
pale spade
Assault and medic is going to be meta
broken glade
it was just a random guy sniping at main lol, what a shithead
pale spade
Sniper and support are going to be, well, support
dim gazelle
1/3 lmg 1/3 sniper and rest is med and assault
broken glade
Seems like assault is crazy popular because the loadout and default gun is really powerful
solid hinge
its cool
broken glade
it hits hard
solid hinge
i have to admit
grand merlin
Can't even drive a tank without getting five panzerfausts up your ass
solid hinge
its honestly really really cool
broken glade
With the amount of talk about the panzerfaust, something is gonna get tweaked
solid hinge
i think it just needs less damage
grand merlin
That is what nerfing does
solid hinge
duh
grand merlin
Less damage or less shots
broken glade
It does 71 damage to the rear of a tiger
grand merlin
Tbh the panzerfaust was a one shot thing
And the only weapon in the entire war the Germans didn't overengineer into oblivion
zinc vessel
What if we make everything op. Everything
zinc vessel
Speaking of German engineering, they did a damn good job
solid hinge
what do you mean by overengineer
broken glade
Their tanks were superb
broken glade
the ones that mattered
solid hinge
most*
zinc vessel
I wonder if we will see the V-2 rocket in the game.
grand merlin
But it was plagued by so many problems of complex engineering
unreal charm
the superb one break down the most
grand merlin
While the T-34 for instance was engineered to break down and be expendable
unreal charm
@zinc vessel nah, no indicator when it's coming
broken glade
wasn't the Sherman engine from a plane or something ridiculous and problematic
unreal charm
@broken glade they figured out how to fix them, and nothing much on experiment
zinc vessel
Alright
unreal charm
as a result they could just drive sherman just fine
carmine temple
is it possible to make cinematics stop lagging somehow?
weary lodge
Even if i dont buy the game atm i will 1000 percent buy it when the russians get in
dim gazelle
It is rank 10
Its resettet but i cant choose new skills
Ok after reloading the game twice it worked
sleek trail
Are there no enemy footsteps sounds at all? in a game with spotting almost completely gone i feel this should be improved
pale spade
Well with V1 rockets going off left and right, and various other means of killing eachother
Not the easiest to hear
sleek trail
but even when it's relatively silence i cant hear them.. seems bugged or by design
pale spade
I mean, yea I’ve heard them
zinc vessel
Turn your audio up
sleek trail
i'll try that /s
broken glade
They do seem rather quiet
south lynx
@broken glade You're completely off your rocker.
German tanks had rubbish engineering for the most part.
Hell, just upgunning the Pz. IV to have a decent gun put terrible strain on the suspension.
The Panther ate its own transmission.
Tigers were maintenance queens.
weary lodge
Any heavy machinery like that was a maintenance queen at that time
south lynx
And let's not get started on the German inability to comprehend mass manufacturing and block upgrades...
sleek trail
someones been reading wiki
runic vigil
should i get origin basic thing so i can play BFV this week?
south lynx
@weary lodge Not to the extent that German vehicles were.
broken glade
tanks haven't improved much at all in maintenance requirements lol
they're just more modular now
weary lodge
Sherman engines spontaneously cought fire, or died, t34s were thrown out of the factories faster than bread was being baked and they were falling apart
Every side had downsides
south lynx
As for your Sherman question, Shermans used a variety of engines. The M4/M4A1 used the R-975 radial, which was reliable in both an air and ground role. The major complication it introduced was a higher vehicle silhouette due to the elevated drive train.
broken glade
hahaha that bread analogy is amazing
weary lodge
The germans had insane problems with transmssion
south lynx
@weary lodge Shermans did not spontaneously catch fire, you're thinking of Panthers.
weary lodge
Both did amigo
south lynx
More generally, the Maybach 230 had issues with fuel line seals.
sleek trail
are you guys discussing balance in a video game with real life?
broken glade
I did read that the Sherman's were destroyed in numbers much higher than they anticipated
weary lodge
The sherman was also a highly inadequate vehicle for fighting other tanks, the high silhouette combined with shit armor made them shit af
No lol i dont care bout the game
south lynx
@sleek trail No, I'm just yelling at people who are getting their tank facts wrong.
weary lodge
Lets not even mention the brits with their fucking churchills
broken glade
the Brit tanks sucked everyone agrees with that
zinc vessel
I just know that tank go vroom vroom and make boom boom
south lynx
@weary lodge Shermans were fine for what they were actually used for, and the armor wasn't any worse than any other tank of the day. Far superior to the Pz. III and IV, for sure.
sleek trail
they also make salt i believe
digital bison
hey. New to planes and had a question. Do the planes start with bombs in BFV, or do you unlock them over time? I was confused when my Stuka B-1 didn't seem to have bombs on it.
weary lodge
Even the british ap could punch through any of that no prob
south lynx
You're literally looking at one of the largest dedicated anti-tank weapons of the war and complaining that the Sherman couldn't stop it.
solid hinge
Imagine if there was a "Heavy Gustaf" artillery 😄
south lynx
That's actual stupidity.
broken glade
the bombers have bombs as default, press 2
weary lodge
Pz iv, iii, and sherman were cramped as fuck so even a single ap shot from a 76mm could taje em out easily
south lynx
Sherman was not cramped.
digital bison
hmm I pressed 2 and nothing happened. I'll go back and try again though
weary lodge
It hella was
south lynx
Sherman was actually one of the roomiest tanks of the war.
south lynx
Two different versions.
weary lodge
Fuel tanks insanely close to ammo supply
south lynx
Dry stowage was side storage, wet stowage was low hull racks.
Fuel tanks were in the back.
weary lodge
Dude the sherman had as much survivability asa goddamn truck when facing a 76+
broken glade
the first version suffered bad casualties I think
south lynx
You sound like you're confusing the layout with the T-34.
sleek trail
checking if in bfv discord and not tankfacts
weary lodge
Im defo not amigo
south lynx
Which had floor-stowed rounds and fuel tanks next to the fighting compartment.
@broken glade Shermans didn't suffer appreciably worse casualties than other mediums.
south lynx
They had a lower crew casualty per penetration rate than any other tank, to boot.
weary lodge
Sherman was notoriously bad for survivability
south lynx
Oh for fuck's sake, stop reading goddamned Deathtraps.
It was not.
Operational research proved it.
But since you won't take my word for it, let me get you a little history lesson from an actual historian.
broken glade
I think we triggered this guy lol
weary lodge
Im 100 percent sure when i am saying that a goddamn 76mm PzGr can take it out no prob
south lynx
Germans used 75mm cannons.
weary lodge
My phone is small
south lynx
Do you know who Nicholas Moran is?
weary lodge
Amigo
south lynx
He's an armor historian.
hazy lynx
haha look at this shit show
south lynx
I'm citing a talk he gave a few years back.
weary lodge
Aight cool my dude
Sure thing amigo
Lets both chill before we get kicked can we agree on that?
broken glade
solid hinge
and then he told you that his wiener could penetrate that armor of that Sherman
south lynx
No mods have stopped in to interfere, we're good.
solid hinge
sorry for that joke in advance
carmine temple
I feel like the most requested update to BFV is going to be hairstyles for females 
weary lodge
Any tank facing a german 75 and more was dead. A german tank facing anything more than a short 75m4 was dead
granite rune
south lynx
The 75mm M4 could penetrate the most common german AFVs of the day frontally.
And all of them from the side.
weary lodge
Tiger and panther were both impervious to the short 75 m4 ap shells
south lynx
Incidentally, operation research showed the majority of tanks, from any nation, that were lost to cannon fire were lost due to side hits.
No they weren't.
weary lodge
Only late variants with shit steel had their turrets bent and disfiguered from ap
He*
south lynx
They were frontally impervious.
wheat willow
about time to beast some BF5 scrubs
weary lodge
Frontally
south lynx
Neither Tiger nor Panther were common by the way.
south lynx
I'm talking Pz. III, IV, and StuGs built on those hulls, the actual AFVs that Shermans had to face most of the time.
There were less than 2000 Tigers built, total.
weary lodge
Stug was shit and any commander using that as a feontline afv was a moron
south lynx
StuG III was the most common AFV of the war.
You need to look at some actual fucking production numbers son.
The big cats were rare.
weary lodge
I know that it was
I am saying that it was not at all suited to close range afv fighting range?
heavy hazel
Didn't expect this historian nerd fest when I joined. Did I step into a different internet where people are normal? Surprisingly better.
broken glade
🍿
south lynx
No AFV is suited to close range.
weary lodge
Lol
hazy lynx
lol
south lynx
That's literally the worst possible place to put an AFV.
hazy lynx
south lynx
But as far as it goes, the StuG was capable when employed correctly.
broken glade
So guys what's your favourite maps
weary lodge
Yes they did when they ran out of anything else amigo
solid hinge
@broken glade so far none
hazy lynx
armored fighting vehicles are completely suited for close range, tanks on the other hand are suited for long range
urab combat mostly
weary lodge
^^^
south lynx
@hazy lynx AFV is a broad term encompassing tankks.
tanks*
You're thinking IFV probably.
Which is still not ideal for CQ, we just send them in anyways.
weary lodge
Tank is a atank, afv is anything mobike with armor
south lynx
@weary lodge Yes, all tanks are AFVs, but not all AFVs are tanks.
south lynx
@weary lodge What are you on about?
weary lodge
You said that no tank is suuted to cqc
Suited
Did you not?
If you didnt i apologise
south lynx
I did, and I stand by it.
weary lodge
Well something like a tiger 2 could stand aginst anything that was not a 90mm
Even from the side
If we dont count the german 88
south lynx
Tanks in close combat are terribly vulnerable to infantry, and armor's effectiveness against cannons decreases as range decreases.
weary lodge
I thught we were discussing tank/tank combat, no infantry involved
south lynx
I'm talking general tank usage.
weary lodge
I do know how kinetic energy works tho
south lynx
Not fucking WoT land, where people don't exist and it's some militarized Cars spinoff.
proven quartz
WoT was good not that good anymore
south lynx
If all we're discussing is some hypothetical tank vs tank duel, I'm still going to say that CQ is not where you want to be.
icy sluice
So the #ApologizeForUSSR is all a big misunderstanding... okay
south lynx
At close range an opponent has an easier time maneuvering around for a flank or rear shot, it's hard to cover your own sides, and gunner/commander visibility becomes a big liability.
weary lodge
My point is that a german long 50 with pzgr, a german long 75 with pzgr and a german 88 with pzgr (i would put the 128 aswell but do i need to lol) could all take out a sherman
I do agree
south lynx
The KwK 38 stood a reasonable chance of deflecting off the front plate.
weary lodge
While the us short 75 was on the same level as the german short 75, which means shit
south lynx
A KwK 40 would generally go through at combat ranges, and the KwK 37 would definitely go through.
weary lodge
Yes i do know that
south lynx
But you have to remember that the 75mm gun on the Sherman could deal with most any platform that would be carrying the guns you listed.
weary lodge
No, not the short one
Maybe the 76
The 75mm frontally stood no chance aginst a tiger
south lynx
No, the 75mm Gun M3.
weary lodge
Even sideways, 100 mm
south lynx
I said most.
weary lodge
Well yeah
south lynx
The Tiger was a problem.
Could be penned by the 75mm at suicidally close ranges from the front.
Or actual combat ranges from the side.
But it was very rare.
weary lodge
But the sherman was nothing out of the ordinary. I will say any day of the week that a panther was better than it, a pziv with the long 75 was better than it and the t34 76 or 85 was better than it
south lynx
David Fletcher has only managed to ever substantiate three encounters between US armor and Tigers in the ETO.
I disagree on all those examples.
south lynx
M4, M3 was the Lee or Grant.
south lynx
Yes, M3 gun.
weary lodge
Are you serious? It would stand no chance aginst a t34 76 or 85 at 100m
south lynx
...At 100m?
south lynx
You realize that's point-fucking-blank range, right?
south lynx
Why even compare at that range?
The 75 will punch a Tiger's front plate at that range.
weary lodge
Cause the m3 is utterly useless aginst the t34's slope at anything more than 100
Lol no
south lynx
No it isn't.
granite rune
gaye
weary lodge
At 100m 90 degrees the m3 could pen 102mm
T34 is impervious to that with its ufp, lfp might mean transmission damage and the driver dies
Turret ring can be penned aswell, but thats a 1/1000 shot
Tiger- no chance of anything
solid hinge
I think both of you can discuss forever but in the end it will be useless
south lynx
Tiger has 80mm of side armor and 100mm of frontal armor.
It can absolutely be penned by the short 75.
ivory plume
rip to the homie
south lynx
T-34 has 45mm sloped at 60 degrees, which works out to 90mm LoS, but slope penetration is a tricky subject.
ivory plume
also why are bombers so strong 😩
weary lodge
It absolutely cannot be lmfao
The only thing that could reliably pen the tiger was the m26 and the js2
gaunt blaze
This DLC of BF1 is great.
weary lodge
The js2 was a major fuck you anywau
stuck plaza
can you STOP pinging me in #giveaways? always makes me think i won 😃
pale spade
Lol
mystic sinew
Iosif Stalin 2 is like, absolute beast.
mystic sinew
fucken 122mil just blows everything up
weary lodge
Yes
south lynx
Sherman is 2.5" at 47 degrees or 2" at 57
weary lodge
What?
south lynx
Plate thickness.
south lynx
63.5mm and 50.8mm respectively.
weary lodge
Okay cool but does that even fit with what im talking bout?
south lynx
And the Tiger's front plate is basically perpendicular.
weary lodge
Basically, but not exaxtly
south lynx
Given that the Sherman has ~100mm LoS thickness in either iteration?
bright chasm
that sniper count was amazing in bf v
weary lodge
LMFAO
bright chasm
there are 20 snipers in a 1 building lmao
south lynx
That's the actual LoS thickness.
weary lodge
Even a degree more means its impervious to 102mm pen
bright chasm
i'm really kinda feeling bad for pre ordaring battlefield 5
weary lodge
Sherman was butter frontally
solid hinge
especially scouts in Battlefield 5 are rarely playing the objective I guess
bright chasm
they dont
south lynx
Sherman was not butter frontally.
south lynx
That vaunted T-34 plate you're gushing over? 45mm @ 60 degrees. 90mm LoS thickness.
wheat willow
when have scouts ever played the objective
icy sluice
So, in the future we will get the Soviet Invasion of Poland and maybe Operation Barbarossa!
bright chasm
true
south lynx
Sherman had 50mm @ 57, or 63.5 @ 47.
wheat willow
just smoke em and run
solid hinge
but this is the fault of DICE since there is no bullet drop and you deal the same damage on 10 meters than you would on 100 meters
bright chasm
i cant
weary lodge
That was t34 75 not the later 76 and 85 versions which i mentioned
The 75 was a deathtrap
south lynx
There was no T-34 75.
wheat willow
theres no bullet drop?
bright chasm
yes
south lynx
The T-34 always had a 76mm gun, L-11 initially, then F-34 later. Then the big upgun to the T-34-85 with the new turret.
weary lodge
Oof indeed
solid hinge
it is so little that it is not really worth mentioning it
weary lodge
I fuckex up
bright chasm
and there maybe cheaters on the game
weary lodge
I meant the l11 variant
wheat willow
why do they even give you ranges on the scope?
south lynx
The F-34 variant did not get uparmored.
weary lodge
It did, turret was uparmorwd
south lynx
There were scattered ad-hoc applique packages, I believe the STZ factory did quite a few uparmored variants, but the basic version produced throughout the war retained the 45mm glacis.
bright chasm
sherman w 76 caliber is the best
south lynx
I'm not talking about the turret redesign, I'm talking about the glacis plate.
mossy badge
iirc STZ had a 15mm plate addon on the front
south lynx
T-34 Glacis plate was roughly equivalent to the Sherman glacis, both of which were far superior to the Pz. III and IV, and nearing on the Tiger's armor effectiveness, at least against moderate-caliber rounds.
weary lodge
Okay then you are correct. But the m4 with the m3 gun had glacis thickness equivalent to 86mm including angle
mossy badge
But also remember, angled penetration of what is firing at that angled plate
weary lodge
M4- effective thickness 86.5-87.5
mossy badge
and War Thunder is Semi reliable in that regard
bright chasm
you play bugfield 5
weary lodge
T34 83-85
south lynx
@weary lodge Do the math, plate thickness / cosine
solid hinge
I heard there are many campers is that right?
bright chasm
@solid hinge yes as i said there were 20 snipers in 1 building
mossy badge
What exactly are we talking about precisely ?
weary lodge
Has a cinstructional angle of 10 degress on ufp
solid hinge
if you had had a V1 😄
weary lodge
And 24 on lfp
bright chasm
you cant
south lynx
@mossy badge gee-tar is arguing that the Sherman was the worst tank of the war.
bright chasm
because they snipe you when they see you
mossy badge
HE FUCKING WOT
weary lodge
I did not say thay
bright chasm
i used smokes and other shit
south lynx
You're just saying that every other tank was better.
bright chasm
but they shot me through smokes even
weary lodge
I said that it does not match aginst comparable tanks of the era
Pz3 is way worse
Any british tank is way worse
mossy badge
What sherman against what panzer iv ?
bright chasm
i cant poked my head through covers
weary lodge
M4 with m3 cannon, the short 75
solid hinge
well I will buy the game however I am very concerned that I still dislike it
mossy badge
So early model M4 Shermans against early model Panzer IV's ?
weary lodge
Aginst the, for example, f2 or G of pziv
mossy badge
Oh
mossy badge
Later variants with the long 75mm....
bright chasm
and cars
solid hinge
I started to dislike it when I played the beta
weary lodge
Amigo here is telling me thay sherman would win in that situation
south lynx
@weary lodge Effective LoS of the 50.4mm plate at 57 degrees (Small hatch hulls) is 92.5mm. Effective LoS of the 63.5mm plate at 47 degrees (large hatch hulls) is 93.1mm
solid hinge
it was just horrible
weary lodge
Well we were tlaking bout the short 75 amigo
mossy badge
What is the situation @weary lodge ?
south lynx
@weary lodge It comes down to who fires first in that situation actually.
bright chasm
the normal game is so bad
solid hinge
I did not like the beta to be honest
south lynx
Both tanks have the pen to go through the other.
mossy badge
^^^ What Ophichius said
weary lodge
Well then stop sucking the shermans dick ifthe situatiom is who fires first?
bright chasm
well you are going to disgust then
mossy badge
Mate, who ever fires first and hits is going to win
south lynx
You're the one who claimed Shermans randomly burst into flames, had no survivability, etc.
All wrong.
weary lodge
Also the sherman has a way worse round than the 75 pzgr 39
solid hinge
But I cannot judge the final game yet since I have not played it
bright chasm
because theres a bug you cant move armored cars or normal static weapons
like you change direction
cerulean dock
@weary lodge anyway here's berlinwall
south lynx
You're gun wanking instead of looking at tanks as a weapon system.
bright chasm
but weapon stays still
weary lodge
You are the one who said that germans had thw worst tanks in that regard, whifh is also wrong
bright chasm
when they revive you
weary lodge
Lmfao and yohre armor wanking
bright chasm
and you die
south lynx
No, I said the Germans had the worst tanks.
bright chasm
and then revive again
weary lodge
Hahaha
south lynx
They're the worst tanks as a whole.
bright chasm
your game is bugged
weary lodge
Aight
bright chasm
you cant move
sour latch
early war shermans are horrible. late war shermans are pretty great!
solid hinge
I heard there should be a "day one fix" soon
weary lodge
The dude. Is talking. About. The m3 75.
weary lodge
How can you say its better than any german or russian equivalent
bright chasm
@solid hinge if that fix have limit the snipers and make a great anti cheat system
umbral anvil
why aint this game at the top of twitch since it just got released.. just released and its barely over 20k viewers 😐
bright chasm
will do
mossy badge
And usually it would've been the Shermans since whey were better tanks all around, mediocre firepower, decent slopped armour (Later Variants), Great survivability, quite effective sighting stuff
cerulean dock
@umbral anvil because it got released for the premiers
weary lodge
Later variants is the key word here
bright chasm
@solid hinge real shit -_-
south lynx
@weary lodge I'm looking at tanks as a whole, not just armor/gun. I've been harping on armor because you were going on about the T-34's armor, as though it were vastly superior to the Sherman's.
weary lodge
Early was fucking awful yet this dude right here is saying it steamrolls gemran tankd
I dis not say vastly, i said better performing
Did*
bright chasm
british dont have sherman firefly
mossy badge
Shermans could find their targets quicker because everyone had a goddamn periscope or two while the german gunners pretty much had to rely on their commanders to give them stuff to shoot.
south lynx
@weary lodge I'm saying it was a better tank, not a better TD.
You're the one tunnel visioning this to some sort of weird one on one tank duel.
mossy badge
^^^
weary lodge
Yes, as we are talking about tank on tank?
bright chasm
from me
south lynx
No, you are.
sour latch
German tanks were great for a couple reasons. Good guns. The 7.5 is a nasty gun, they had better training, and they had been the first ones to use the commander loader gunner as seperate people which made them way more effective
south lynx
I've only been addressing your claims about armor and gun deficiencies because you won't let me get a word in edgewise without raising some new bullshit claim I need to debunk.
mossy badge
^^^
solid hinge
well I would not have bought the game however my clan wants to test the game so I told them I would test the game again
weary lodge
You keep telling me about that, even though i already told yiu 3 times that we are supposed to be talking tank vs tank?
pure veldt
How is the change to having to actually be aware of your health after a firefight and knowing when to use your med pack? Maybe it becomes automatic if you see blood on your screen.
bright chasm
@solid hinge as i said if they limit the snipers
mossy badge
Look at the health bar everynow and then ?
pure veldt
Aint nobody got time for that
bright chasm
@solid hinge or bring special servers
weary lodge
Why didnt you just stop then or say that you wouldnt talk talk about tank on tank?
bright chasm
it will be great
south lynx
@weary lodge If it comes down to tank v tank, are we talking some hypothetical scenario where tanks start looking at each other, or some scenario of two tank crews being told 'There's an enemy tank somewhere in this map sector, go kill it?'
solid hinge
they will not
south lynx
Because there's a big difference if we're just talking shooting range bullshit or a real engagement.
weary lodge
I thoughr already cleared that out, 100 m shooting range? You said point blank aswell, which i agreed with?
sour latch
tank vs tank is very hard to do because if it was just a empty white room it would come down to who had the better which isn't what tanks are about
south lynx
You're basically correct if and only if we're considering a shooting range where two tanks are facing off against each other and have already sighted and laid in the guns.
weary lodge
Which i was fucking considering the whole time?
mossy badge
You know, unless you have a fuck ton of armour
sour latch
also @sinful ravine snipers are complained about in every battlefield game i have played since 2142
weary lodge
Dont make me scroll up
bright chasm
@solid hinge might be greatest or shittiest battlefield ever
mossy badge
100m is pretty much point blank though
weary lodge
Well yes?
solid hinge
Actually I really like playing as a scout however I want to play the objective and in Battlefield 5 that behaviour is getting punished
south lynx
@weary lodge Fine, in a spherical cow situation yes, a big fuckoff pile of gun and frontal armor is superior to a good general-purpose tank.
south lynx
But I contend that German tanks still sucked as tanks.
weary lodge
Thats why i even mentioned js2
south lynx
Which is what kicked this whole discussion off.
mossy badge
Mobile Bunkers ?
weary lodge
Well i still disagree
solid hinge
so you have many scouts camping 100m from the objectives
mossy badge
Semi-mobile Bunkers
bright chasm
yes
weary lodge
Or, i agree
south lynx
You know what most tank engagements are? Tank vs infantry. Tank vs AT gun. Tank vs fortified position.
sour latch
I mean for like the handful of their heavy tanks sure
weary lodge
Depends on which year of the war we are talking about
south lynx
Most tank engagements are not tank vs tank.
weary lodge
I do realize that
south lynx
And in that regard, the Sherman was the superior vehicle.
sour latch
but they had 70% of their armor made up of stugs and panzer III's and panzer IV's
weary lodge
But i was not talking about thay and i still stand by it
And also any tank would do well in tank v inf, tank v fort. Etc
mossy badge
That's also why you had tank destroyers, light tanks, you know different roles and the Sherman was the superior general purpose tank
solid hinge
if I can deal the same damage over 100m than I can over 10m than it is an easy decision since everything can saw you down immediately
weary lodge
No need to close the top hatch, good visibility, multiple machineguns
south lynx
@weary lodge Not actually true. You know why the British abandoned the 6 pdr for the QF 75mm right?
weary lodge
I told you i dont wanna discuss the brits cause they were shit
mossy badge
Firefly is Bae
south lynx
The 6pdr has superior anti-tank performance, but the QF 75mm was determined to still have adequate AT perfomance while also having substantially more effective HE.
weary lodge
Firefly is an amrrican tank with a british gun
mossy badge
Yes.
ruby tangle
guys how do I get the special assignments for the outfits?
sour latch
hey now. brits just had a weird armor doctrine that wasn't up to date.
solid hinge
there is no real damage drop off and also almost no bullet drop
mossy badge
A very good British gun.
bright chasm
they shot me from body
weary lodge
Which makes it mostly american in design, not a true british design
bright chasm
1shot from body
south lynx
@weary lodge You just said any tank would do well in an anti-infantry role.
pure veldt
In bf1 tanks and armor rolled into cap points with literally no regard. I don't think anyone remembers from older BF games most armor held back and ensured there was an engineer with them or they'd be toast. V goes old school, you can't just roll armor like you're half invincible.
weary lodge
Well it would lol
ruby tangle
guys how do I get the special assignments for the outfits?
weary lodge
Mark V would
solid hinge
a single shot on the body is not enough in Battlefield 5
mossy badge
By that logic, the British Churchill is perfect for Anti Infantry
weary lodge
It was
solid hinge
you were probably hit by a few projectiles at the same time
south lynx
@weary lodge British found that they needed to switch to QF 75 precisely because their tanks weren't performing well in an anti-infantry role.
sour latch
but if you guys want a great source of info on tanks go to thecheiftains channel on youtube. he does some excellent videos on tanks
pure veldt
Heated debate going on good luck getting any words in
weary lodge
Yeah but they still did the role fine without the better he shell?
Any tank is better than no tank
mossy badge
Umm @ruby tangle I've noticed that i got a few assignments for outfit parts from my guns.
south lynx
Ironically, the QF 75 fired the same series of shells as the M3 75mm, being effectively a 6 pdr action bored out and rebarreled to a common ammo type.
pure veldt
No one is reading anything that isn't pertaining to them lol
bright chasm
true
weary lodge
And dont shit on me with some sort of bob semple design
hazy lynx
for fucks sake, we cant even get a offtopic channel here for pictures or other games
sour latch
whats everyones fav battlfield V gun so far?
hazy lynx
fuck this
south lynx
@weary lodge Bob Semple is the greatest tank of all time. Fite me. 😛
mossy badge
Bren gun @sour latch
sour latch
oh boo
solid hinge
too much tank claptrap
weary lodge
I mean any succesfull , mass produced tank in ww2 was good for anti inf, otherwise it wouldnt be mass prodiced
Lol i agree bob tank best tank 😂
mossy badge
I love me a single shot, sniper scoped, bipod deployed bren gun
bright chasm
@sour latch @sour latch @mossy badge @weary lodge can you guys talk from somewhere else
weary lodge
Also excuse my english throught the whole convo, im not native and have a lot of mistakes
Shall we move to general?
south lynx
@weary lodge Sure.
sour latch
desmond im talking about battlefield V guns
mossy badge
Me too ....
sour latch
i gotta say i like the fg42 better
bright chasm
Ironically, the QF 75 fired the same series of shells as the M3 75mm, being effectively a 6 pdr action bored out and rebarreled to a common ammo type. is this battlefield 5 thing?
solid hinge
I can already see people abusing the MG 42 if they have it unlocked
bright chasm
is that battlefield 5 gun?
sour latch
im working for my mg42.
mossy badge
the QF 75 is what's on the Churchill ingame, as well as the Valentine (upgraded gun)
The 6 pdr is also there
sour latch
i have already seen people yesterday with the k98 and rank 50 so thats a little nuts
mossy badge
somewhere
solid hinge
yes it is but I think you need to be support level 20
you can upgrade the rate of fire to 1200
bright chasm
but if you guys want a great source of info on tanks go to thecheiftains channel on youtube. he does some excellent videos on tanks
-_-
sour latch
i actually did say that earlier
solid hinge
you have the choice between 900+ rpm and 250 rounds or 1200rpm and 50 rounds
sour latch
Yeah MG42 is gonna be my bae when i unlock it
bright chasm
even this @ruby tangle asked this guys how do I get the special assignments for the outfits?
you guys didnt give a fuck to him
bright chasm
if you guys are so talking about bf 5
ruby tangle
also
when i logged in I could pick some outfits
and didnt see the last two
could I have picked the too?
bright chasm
maybe
sour latch
no on last two outfits
solid hinge
I cannot answer that unfortunately since I do not own the game yet
sour latch
till deluxe edition is out
ruby tangle
oh
good I have deluxe edition
and the outfits were 😩 👌
and special assignment outfits are 😩 😩 👌
sour latch
i want my half naked scottsman outfit they didn't put in yet
ruby tangle
I'm german so I have a special eye for the german stuff 👁
bright chasm
@ruby tangle arent you nors?
ruby tangle
no
bright chasm
@ruby tangle then make your name hanz zimmler
ruby tangle
🗿
solid hinge
I am also German but Germans will always recognize me since I am called "Maggi" here 😄
ruby tangle
GläschenMaggi
sour latch
is this the part where i start shouting U.S.A. over and over?
solid hinge
probably not I just wanted to see if he knows "Maggi"
but this is no product placement
sour latch
im about to murder my ISP.
solid hinge
still better than my 2,3 Mbit/s
sour latch
230 ping
mossy badge
Still better than my 1mbps
solid hinge
There are people having even worse internet than me 
mossy badge
They are called, South Africans
pure veldt
no one has my sympathy, i have none to give.
mossy badge
:3 Actually looking to get some sort of Fibre, but not sure if its in my area yet.
pure veldt
If I had to choose between rural peace and high speed internet if choosing to buy a new house, internet would always come first.
There is no life above 60 ping
mossy badge
20mbps up and down (apparently)(uncapped) for the same amount i'm paying right now for 1mbps up and 0.6 mbps upload.
solid hinge
That would be some nice progress you have there
tacit furnace
that's enough to get by @mossy badge
mossy badge
Snorts
Progress ?
In South Africa ?
Get out.
solid hinge
I have never been there so I do not know much about South Africa, I am sorry 😄
mossy badge
I do not blame you.
pure veldt
is that an island in the indian ocean?
mossy badge
Even i have no idea what the fuck's going on anymore.
solid hinge
is the hacker issue in battlefield 1 going to be addressed?
have not seen many hackers in Battlefield 1 to be honest
pure veldt
my attempt at a joke was unfortunately accurate.....
solid hinge
i live in asia and on 80% of servers there is one hacker
pure veldt
just the 1!
pure veldt
i read that as 80% of the servers there is only 1 single hacker in the entire group
pure veldt
girls
solid hinge
like a weapons spec or something
mossy badge
Nope
sour latch
i think so but i might be wrong.
solid hinge
then Kim Jong Un jumps into your room and is punching you in the face
but do you get the battle coins back?
mossy badge
You don't lose them
sour latch
i would pay to fist fight kim jong un
solid hinge
so it just lets you pay for the others you dont have
so u have a full weapon unlocke
why are so many people crying on /r/battlefield
mossy badge
They just get unselected, (They are still there, already bought)
So when you go down a different tree, you have to buy them.
If you bought every spec, you own it forever and respec as much as you want too.
sour latch
i had someone in my squad named pubg_suks
south lynx
So, real talk, anyone got the 95mm howitzer on the Churchill yet? And if so, is it as glorious as I hope?
mossy badge
2 x 1000 KG since you can re-arm a lot
YES
YES
ITS GLORIOUS AGAINST INFANTRY
Does its job against tanks as well
icy sluice
Please give gameplay of that
mossy badge
Still haven't found a use for Hesh though
I'd record or even stream myself naked playing BFV, but no upload speed ._.
pulsar valve
mossy badge
If you like Moobs and hairy gingers,.
sour latch
can i use it to blackmail you to your family?
icy sluice
Only 3.11 KD Mozzy?
solid hinge
is hesh worse than ap rounds
compact oxide
@solid hinge A hot girl like this? 🤔
solid hinge
xd
sour latch
man. this sticky dynamite dailey isn't completing
mossy badge
HESH ( High Explosive Squash Head) is a great tool against light armour and at times medium armour (Depends on the caliber of the gun)
It basically lobs a massive blob of plastic explosives to the armour of a vehicle then detonates almost like C4
solid hinge
Maybe she would look better if she was not balde
icy sluice
That's the face of "Why are you staring at me?"
compact oxide
She is all of my chars
According to my squad mates she freaks them out every time I rez them
sour latch
i wish i had friends to freak out
solid hinge
I would like to play with a gnome to have a hitbox adavantage
sour latch
have you guys seen the lawn gnome easter egg?
compact oxide
I got told about it
solid hinge
It offended me as a German
digital bison
are daily assignments bugged?
solid hinge
just kidding
digital bison
I've easily gotten 2 kills as assault and recon and it still shows I have zero
compact oxide
@digital bison Shouldn't be?
sour latch
one of mine is bugged
digital bison
I got one today for the MMGs
digital bison
but getting 2 kills as an assault and recon won't pop for me
sour latch
i have a sticky dynamite one and it isn't working. my other 2 finished fine
tepid pond
What`s max lvl?
compact oxide
Tbh the one bug I want them to fix first is letting me get the gold skin for the ZH-29
sour latch
booo you sniper
south lynx
@mossy badge How does HESH work? Does buying the upgrade just replace your main gun ammo or is it a selectable ammo type?
compact oxide
Always a super aggressive snipper though 😃
compact oxide
Ah I'm almost at the cap then
tepid pond
thanks
compact oxide
Technically the Model 8 or RSC would be better for aggressive but I like the option to take out those long distance marks
No?
Why?
glass loom
cant see the TAG´s
gray glade
so get it?
toxic axle
Any new info about reward from road to BFV and AIRLIFT thing?
stuck plaza
ahm ahm *RELEASE DATE GENIUS''
pure veldt
RMB bleed out needs to have a re-bind by Weds night when Deluxe hits
stuck plaza
@gray glade
pure veldt
my mouse hand will go numb holding that down if not
broken scarab
In BF1 What Is The Funniest Gamemode TDM etc
compact oxide
Just don't die?
gray glade
@stuck plaza that didnt stop me from playing it so far!
compact oxide
Get an month of premier and play mate'
pure veldt
dont feed the $15 troll!
compact oxide
pure veldt
Reinforcements arrive Weds night CST!
gray glade
gray glade
cant you do that trial thingy?
gleaming eagle
LOL, I WON
solid hinge
oh wow thank you guys
stuck plaza
!@
solid hinge
i did not wait for it just waithing with my gf for relese
pure veldt
i assume if we did the free trial in Oct we cant use the basic code
compact oxide
You could just, I dunno, buy it? 
stuck plaza
but im gonna buy the game anyways, i just cant wait
compact oxide
@glass loom Yeah you can gift trial codes to four peeps if you have premier
glass loom
but how?
gleaming eagle
Got the code
sour latch
god i hate that my repair isn't workign in the croc churchill
gray glade
sounds like italy in ww2
tiny lantern
oof
brave locust
lmfao
gray glade
i mean after they got invaded 😄
compact oxide
The autobalance moves you if you're towards the bottom of the scoreboard?
tiny lantern
aye, at least you're not forced to have 1 clip per life
compact oxide
^
brave locust
lolol
yeah usually i do pretty well so i get it
but lol still, if i'm having a bad game don't make it worse...
compact oxide
Been trying the suomi with the fast fire rate and it is obscene how fast it goes away
tiny lantern
hardcore attrition lol
compact oxide
BFV
brave locust
right bfg
compact oxide
Like the DOOM BFG?
brave locust
what warfront is it
pure veldt
bleed out in BF1 is space right?
pure veldt
is spacebar used for anything in V?
compact oxide
Yeah Majic
brave locust
is bfv ww2?
pure veldt
while dead? 😄
tiny lantern
wait. if I remember it right, the devs mentioned something about dragging downed players into a cover someday right? or was i dreaming about that info?
compact oxide
Yeah that's later 😦
tiny lantern
hey, as long as they do add it later on I'll be happy.
solid hinge
how tf do you unlock gold plate camo for guns?
compact oxide
Get it to level 10 and do the mastery assignments
compact oxide
Some guns are broken though and don't give you the assignments 😦
sour latch
its several assigments. 1 assignment 1 part of gold
sour latch
my mg34 was non broken thankfully
compact oxide
@old bluff Yeah Imma keen mate, had a coffee and suddenly not wanting to sleep 😛
compact oxide
My ZH is
compact oxide
Fair 😛
old bluff
i'll be fine i'll just load up on coffee
have a shower in a tic - it will reset my body clock
the weekend fucked it ! 😛
you're ZH is dead?
compact oxide
ZH mastery assignments aren't unlocking for me 😦
old bluff
bois is there any way to do like a companion/battlefield App for BFV?
pastel jasper
So guys is bf5 good or what? During the beta everyone said it was trash now it looks like people are enjoying it now?
old bluff
I too loved the beta ^
fickle sluice
@pastel jasper Lot of changes have been done from the beta anyways
compact oxide
Haven't played BF4 in ages tbh
fickle sluice
Some people say it is the best battlefield sine BF3
compact oxide
It's waaaaaay better than BF1 though
fickle sluice
I still haven't played it yet(Ps4) but it looks awesome
Yes sure it's better than BFA
brave locust
should i get v? i'm getting a bit annoyed by 1
solid hinge
bf v is so much better than bf1
brave locust
specifically having to run away from vehicles if i'm not assault
solid hinge
I enjoyed bf4 but loathed bf1, bf v might look like bf1 but it plays way better @brave locust
old bluff
even if that pilot went 30-2 still not going to be high on the scoreboard
compared to a squad going playing the objective
gray glade
i reckon this game will have a better release than BF4 if we go by how ready the game is
it took like a year or something before BF4 felt stable?
pastel jasper
Yea I hated bf1 with a passion , I bought it at full price and everything
old bluff
Best battlefield potentially ever
hexed meteor
I loved BF1
pastel jasper
If you loved bf1 then I can’t take your opinion seriously
solid hinge
Sniper spam, high ttk
compact oxide
I liked BF1 but it was a very casual game
old bluff
p.s I am watching niccaman atm
tiny lantern
if you have opinion different from us, you suck basically
solid hinge
Grenades actually do damage in bf v too
pastel jasper
It’s not an opinion, bf1 was definitely trash
old bluff
bro bf1 wasn't that bad, anomalous in the development of the series
solid hinge
it just didnt feel like battlefield
old bluff
it was just a stepping stone
final stone
Worst glitch im getting is I get stuck in the assessments screen and I can’t move
compact oxide
BF1 wasn't trash but it had too much cheap crap
vague gust
BF1 was a gorgeous installment
vague gust
Fr
final stone
Hardline was more of a battlefield than bf1 was. Change my mind 🤷🏾♂️
old bluff
i despire that I can't assign assignments in game
compact oxide
Gas, heavy bomber, SMG 08, M1917 telescopic etc
pastel jasper
Battlefield honesty needs to stick to futuristic shooters , leave the ww 1 and 2 stuff to call of duty
solid hinge
thats something
vague gust
I agree with you on the BFH aspect
old bluff
different studio for hardline ❤
vague gust
But the maps were pretty damn stellar
severe pier
am i too late for origin access code?
tiny lantern
well, I really hope that DICE will work on Pacific theater at some point. This Asian boi want Pacific action. And the last games that had the pacific in were Rising Storm and WAW. Damn they were fun.
pastel jasper
Hardline was definitely better then bf1. Which was sad
severe pier
am i too late for a code?
old bluff
Derrik is correct in the sense that bf1 made it too attractive to stick to the more cheesy meta's
solid hinge
no
tiny lantern
new giveaway
severe pier
how to participate?
tiny lantern
check out #giveaways
solid hinge
Hellriegel
sour latch
that awkward moment when you get in a gunfight kill 2 people and a medic kills you and you know he will rez them
old bluff
I want the Mortar Truk in BFV
solid hinge
900rpm weapons in a ww1 game
compact oxide
Heilregal wasn't that bad by the end tbh
solid hinge
"Elite classes"
severe pier
how to participate for code?
solid hinge
Heilregal lol
compact oxide
900 rpm weaps existed, but were very rare
vague gust
The high count of various unique Bolt Action rifles was awesome imo.
compact oxide
Elites and behemoths were craphouse though
tiny lantern
900 rpm weapons included my loud mouth shouting at people because I don't get what I want Kappa
old bluff
I mean Im sure this convo's been had multiple times but like it was a reimagined vision of the era
solid hinge
Bolt actions felt way better in bf1 than in bfv now
old bluff
because it was 100 years ago
solid hinge
the sounds/animations
tiny lantern
agreed to that
solid hinge
The lee enfield feels like a toy weapon in bfv
old bluff
some imagination and "fantasy" had to be injected because.. make the gameplay fun
compact oxide
Bolt actions suck a fair bit in BFV now, which is sad
tiny lantern
I swear the bolt actions were a bit stronger in BETA
solid hinge
If bf1 were to be realistic we would just charge a position in a 500v500 player server and get mowed down
then repeat
compact oxide
@old bluff No idea, unlocked it but not used it
old bluff
I mean the enfield is nice if u shoot for the head
pastel jasper
I need an opinion of someone who disliked bf1, how do you feel about bfv?
vague gust
People really think BFV is an Alternate WW2 when in reality it just elaborates on the battles that aren’t very well known.
solid hinge
Its fun
pastel jasper
Not you
solid hinge
@pastel jasper i like it
pastel jasper
Anybody else
solid hinge
im anybody else
tiny lantern
I didn't like nor dislike bf1. It was okay but it was defo not for me even though I bought it with premium straight away.
old bluff
@vague gust so true
pastel jasper
U just said u loved bf1, u have horrible taste
sour latch
i ran into a room and went prone in the corner. i suddenly realised the people around me were not my team mates and they dont see me. so my brain off course starts shooting and then they notice me
solid hinge
i didnt lol?? @pastel jasper
tiny lantern
oof that wasn't me lol
vague gust
Lol iconic
vague gust
Lol what? You tagged her and then said not You hahaha
pastel jasper
Has name is black sheep , are u slow?
solid hinge
mental iron
assignments on bf5 bugged for anyone else?
tiny lantern
ah okay.
Well IMO, it feels way better than BF1. And yes I would dare say that BFV is currently the best in the series.
compact oxide
@mental iron Yes
pastel jasper
Where did I tag sheep, please tell me
vague gust
You smell like teeth indubitably
mental iron
its soo annoying, i had to get 4 headshots without dieing
tiny lantern
aight people, chill out.
mental iron
im not the best at this game. finally got them they didnt work.....
pastel jasper
@tiny lantern thanks
compact oxide
Did you get rezzed in between?
compact oxide
Sometimes the game counts the rez as a separate life for achieves
mental iron
in other words im never going to get this assignment.. 😦
compact oxide
If its that recon one I've ignored it myself 😛
pastel jasper
Is there a way to turn off the bleeding out state? What if I just want to die
mental iron
no assault for the gewehr
compact oxide
Hmmm
vague gust
I think they are adding an update that speeds up the bleed out process
compact oxide
Go irons and camp a window?
mental iron
says that i need to get 10kills in a round most of the time i get more than that