Was the theme rerecorded for bfv?
#battlefield-legacy-titles
peak kite
broken glade
yes theres a new BF theme, I heard it in the menu
steep radish
Yay
solid hinge
@narrow mantle premier is only on pc
narrow mantle
christ sakes
timber monolith
Will a i7 7700k and a 1060 6gb make high on bf5?
peak kite
sure
regal sapphire
Only in some countries aswell apparently
forest cargo
yes it will
timber monolith
When i scope in with sniper my fps drops
broken glade
yeah that happens
narrow mantle
Is anyone actually playing BF5 on XBox One right now?
waxen finch
normal
u can prob mitigate that
by raising the view distance in the config if that is available but that'll maybe be an overall hit to ur fps
tight kettle
battlefield engine is a little broken i think
tight kettle
frame buffer on = higher fps, that makes no sense
waxen finch
it does
tight kettle
why don't other engines do the same thing then
timber monolith
If my screens refresh rate is 60hz should i cap my fps then?
waxen finch
u are prerendering future frames
because it's awful
fps games want minimal input lag
and proper responsiveness
by prerendering u are doing the opposite, ur input will have to be delayed until after the future frames have been sent out if I understand correctly
tight kettle
a GPU should't be able to produce 40fps extra by rendering 'future frames'
forest cargo
can we play with the DX12 or its like in BF1 and we cant use it because its bugged
timber monolith
is future frames even good?
tight kettle
no it's aids but really it isn't since off/on feels equally bad
waxen finch
it's not native dx12 so if u don't own a 20 series card u will most likely see negative impact
timber monolith
Should i keep it on?
forest cargo
good so No DX12 for me then 😛
waxen finch
turn it off if u want to play properly
tight kettle
keep it on = input delay, keep it on = more fps = lower delay but increased delay = same delay
so really, it isn't an improvement at all
timber monolith
okay
timber monolith
is it ever good to cap your fps
waxen finch
and if u only have a 60hz monitor then u shouldn't care too much if u get 60 fps and above anyways
forest cargo
What class are you guys going to main?
waxen finch
yes
timber monolith
Support
tight kettle
the delay is still there because you go from 120 to 80fps, it feels equally bad for different reasons
waxen finch
if u want a smooth game then capping is good
icy sluice
Support
compact oxide
Snipper 😃
tight kettle
that's why keeping it on in this case is better, but ultimately you want it off
waxen finch
I would cap the fps just slightly above ur refreshrate
tight kettle
so dice needs to fix this issue so the gpu is just properly used at all times anyway
you should cap fps below your refreshrate, fyi.
waxen finch
I wouldn't say so, it's alot more fps than in bf1
tight kettle
actually, this might be useful only for gsync
i forgot if this was the case, blurbusters has a whole article on it
waxen finch
well
calm sorrel
lower ur setings
waxen finch
I think the absolutely minmal impact u get is awful in trade off for delay ^^
timber monolith
Is gpu restriciton good?
timber monolith
Okay
tight kettle
40fps is not minimal impact though
bf1 doesn't have this issue
so it's probably just an issue with the newer frostbite engine
waxen finch
bf1 didn't have future frames buffering ^^
tight kettle
did it not have it or have it on at all time
because with framebuffer on it feels the same as bf1
waxen finch
well, my rig 2080 and i5-8600k. In bf1 max settings is around 80-100 fps. Bf5 max settings was so far for me 100-150 fps
vast bison
Could be worse. Spent all last night and this morning trying to fix a 3 sec delay in mouse movement. Turns out BFV applies the analogue smoothing and controller acceleration to my mouse...
waxen finch
haven't used it yet
tight kettle
i do for sure
vast bison
Settings>Advanced>Stick Aim Acceleration
tight kettle
it adds delay though, so either you deal with lower fps or more mouse delay
whichever you are most sensitive to
narrow mantle
It would be pretty pointless as a feature if doing work ahead of time didn't speed things up
teal phoenix
How're people enjoying BFV so far?
icy sluice
A lot
teal phoenix
I've been watching gameplay and it's so hard not to want to grab it
tight kettle
once billed you have 1 month access
vocal crescent
Possible to change the upgrades of a weapon? Seem to have some left since the beta?
calm sorrel
but what if its annually?
calm sorrel
so cant people abuse that with fake credit cards
tight kettle
they can, if creditcard is declined or charged back ea will probably ban your account
or delete the game
calm sorrel
ok thanks
patent bobcat
Is changing the gender of the pilot and tanker a thing or?
dreamy lintel
planes not spawning AGAIN, fix your beta game
minor gale
ok someone here has Origin and wants to test the game 10h?
calm sorrel
me
minor gale
DM me your origin name
patent bobcat
I can't seem to find it anywhere in game but hit me up if you find anything 
pure veldt
petition to let Deluxe in this weekend!
brittle imp
@pure veldt go to change.org
pure veldt
lmao
brittle imp
Start a petition
wary mason
Picture related
faint spruce
Does EA offers any sort of APIs to track players statistics?
wary mason
I would assume, yes
https://battlefieldtracker.com/
waxen finch
anybody here have origin access?
pure veldt
pretty sure the API is released on an official capacity only
you'd have to have a really high traffic site like Smythic and work out a deal directly with DICE
can't have everyone querying their db's
id cancel my Deluxe but no one can confirm if premiere keeps the assignments and everything related
air drops for sure will go away id assume, if they keep those id be really pissed
cause i paid $11 more than premiere + basic
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faint spruce
Bummer, I thought pushing a small app for player tracking for BF5
hoary condor
Not that i can see @oblique parcel
restive talon
The prologue is so sad wtf
hoary condor
i would expect on the full release for them to appear
solid hinge
Oh yeah I know the channels exist just trying to reach more online people, it's a sparce crowd.
restive talon
Almost cried
hoary condor
Thankyou 😃
solid hinge
rubs eyes looking at his Ps4 Why does ps4 have a download for BFV rn
solid hinge
So we have the application but can't play it XD what a slap in the face to deluxe players.
rigid path
MAYBE............... MAYVE for ONCE you could have made a fk game where I don;t have to change the brightness EVERY... SINGLE........ MAP
it's insane
hoary condor
#Specsavers 
hollow mulch
The reveal trailer is fucking AMAZING
solid hinge
You could just replace your eyes with like cyborg eyes that automatically change the brightness.
hollow mulch
I’ve been waiting too long for that classic Battlefield theme to show up in a trailer
BA DUM DUM DA DUM DUM
hoary condor
it's exciting!
family and friends are talking about my bday 21/11/2018.. i'm like nah it's fine rather just stay home and play 
hollow mulch
Why didn’t they go with this as the reveal trailer I will never know. It actually gives me that 1942 feels!
hoary condor
i liked the reveal trailer lol
misty moat
hoary condor
❤
calm sorrel
why is my download jumping from 10 minutes to an hour to 17 hours
and then back to 10 minutes
hoary condor
internet connection
hollow mulch
I couldn’t take the reveal trailer seriously lol
hoary condor
it's trying to work out file size - Bytes per sec etc
waxen finch
where can I contact the support?
hoary condor
musk there twitter is the best choice
waxen finch
because I can't access multiplayer from origin access
opaque hinge
That trailer was so good
hoary condor
trailer was amazing!
@waxen finch try their twitter page. They are quick on replies usually
obsidian fossil
yEEt YEeet
hoary condor
Hey Sophie
opaque hinge
Yeeeeeet
hollow mulch
Maybe, if you were interested in a silly parody of WW2.
waxen finch
don't have tiwtter
waxen finch
twitter*
hollow mulch
That’s just vibe I got from that particular trailer shrugs
hoary condor
musk best get it brug
obsidian fossil
that was a spicy trailer
hoary condor
very spicy
calm sorrel
its a game not a documentary
opaque hinge
I just wish it was longer
hoary condor
yeah same
opaque hinge
I want moar
Ugh it was so good
I'd watch it again but then I wouldn't be able to wait any longer
hollow mulch
This launch trailer is the best one imo
opaque hinge
Yeah
hollow mulch
That classic bf theme was all I needed
hoary condor
i love 
soundtrack
calm sorrel
what is the size of bfv?
hoary condor
50gb ithink
hollow mulch
It actually feels like WW2 on a grand scale, and that’s all I wanted from a BFV trailer
hoary condor
the aerial fights look good
hollow mulch
Hopefully it’s better now
wary mason
Heyy click this link for the installation sizes!
https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/144885731129556992/509736239990046730
hollow mulch
Air meta in the beta was absolute shite
hoary condor
cheers Hess
hollow mulch
Hey that rhymes lol
hoary condor
i wasn't far off lol
blissful otter
hollow mulch
Idk about realism, I just wanted a 1942 vibe
opaque hinge
Well I'm just saying it looks pretty
hollow mulch
That goes without saying
cold trail
I played the ten solid straight hours non-stop yesterday on stream, LOL. I got done at like 3AM and crashed. 😂
hollow mulch
Even bf4 still holds up to this day
opaque hinge
Yeah ww2 vibe > graphics for me too but it looking sexy af isnt a bad thing
opaque hinge
I'm jelly
hollow mulch
But I really, REALLY hope they fixed the flying
calm sorrel
red october 2 is still better
opaque hinge
Bfv > every other game
cold trail
Sure wish EA Access was setup like Origin Access so we could just play again, but there ya go. It is what it is. Looking forward to next week.
hoary condor
Can't wait for it!
hollow mulch
I’ve been a veteran pilot of the bf series since bf3, and what I experienced in the beta was a travesty
hoary condor
i have to wait til the 23rd...
cold trail
Ouch
hoary condor
i am a veteran pilot since bc2.. but it's been suicide missions because i can't fly lol
opaque hinge
Lool
hoary condor
payday
opaque hinge
Ah
hollow mulch
It’s like they tried to implement war thunder flying mechanics, but they forgot to make the planes accelerate
opaque hinge
Get those black Friday deals too
hoary condor
i bought my sniper rifle... but it cost wayyyy more than i thought lol
hollow mulch
Like flying a sack of bricks
narrow mantle
So, I got BF5 running on XBox One, with EA Access trial. Is there no premium to have more than just 10 hours?
cold trail
Don’t believe it said that on the roadmap.
narrow mantle
I have seen no way to do that on XBox
hollow mulch
Anybody else excited for the return of the classic WW2 battles? D-day, Stalingrad and such
cold trail
Just had a big block of ten hours I believe.
hoary condor
yeah Krispy
opaque hinge
Not if u have premier
hollow mulch
I want to storm the beaches of Normandy in that beautiful frostbite engine damnit!
opaque hinge
Premier is more expensive but u get unlimited playtime
cold trail
Over the course of a year it’s less expensive though.
I pre-ordered Deluxe anyways, sort of seems like I’d be paying twice.
hollow mulch
Anybody here still play bf4 btw?
cold trail
Yes
hoary condor
amazing bf1 came out 2 years ago.. i remember driving home after work to install it.. but crashed my car and ended up in hospital lol
hollow mulch
Idk what it is about that game, but I’m still on it xD
cold trail
Although after full release, probably not so much.
cold trail
@hollow mulch We Play mainly metro and tank maps.
opaque hinge
Until bf6
opaque hinge
Never understood 24/7 metro people
hoary condor
<- me
opaque hinge
Just a clusterfuck
hollow mulch
At this point I have more jet kills then my second most used gun xD
opaque hinge
It's like COD
ivory plume
i could fall asleep going for mounted kills 😂
opaque hinge
I didn't come to bf to play COD
ivory plume
this is so boring
cold trail
It’s not like COD. LOL
opaque hinge
Metro is
hollow mulch
No, it’s even worse
hoary condor
it's so far from it
cold trail
Not at all.
opaque hinge
Metro gives me cancer
cold trail
We play some locker.
opaque hinge
64 people on metro
hollow mulch
Locker is the best for 870 backraging
hoary condor
what makes BF different is the destruction lol
opaque hinge
Is just a clusterfuck
hollow mulch
Bam DED Bam DED bam DED
hoary condor
scout in the building? No problem.. Mr Tank
opaque hinge
Just spray and pray
hollow mulch
I love the 870 xD
opaque hinge
Kinda like cod
hoary condor
i'm going to miss the 1895 Russian
cold trail
I am not sure how you play Metro, but people who are spraying and praying get mopped up on our server. Haha
hoary condor
haha
opaque hinge
Yes there is
hollow mulch
At least cod is an open ended clusterfuck
opaque hinge
Lol
hollow mulch
Metro is just stalemate clusterfuck
opaque hinge
True
regal sapphire
This game is not worthy of the BF1942 theme in the trailer
hollow mulch
Or spawn rape clusterfuck
opaque hinge
Whowver gets b first wins
hoary condor
not always
opaque hinge
Shush you
hoary condor
but you have the better chance
opaque hinge
Trailer was sexy
hollow mulch
^^^
opaque hinge
Yeah pretty much cause giant stalemate lol
hoary condor
i've mopped up B with a sniper.. when we lost it lol
regal sapphire
The game footage was good, still doesnt deserve that music
hollow mulch
Wut
cold trail
We don’t worry about B, it’s A or C on the opposite side we’re going to get. Then work our way back. 😂
hoary condor
haha
opaque hinge
The trailer was so sexy
hollow mulch
Look, I’m not all that excited about BFV, but come on, that trailer was 👌
opaque hinge
Yeah
cold trail
Only if it’s a full server though, otherwise that’s unsportsmanlike
hollow mulch
It’s crazy tho, DICE is usually really good at pumping out movie lvl trailers, why did it take them so long to get it right
hoary condor
i love from a distance when someone with a LMG will spray because they see me.. but can't hit due to the accuracy haha
1 bullet from me... covers good distance and dead lol
cold trail
A lot of times we’ll stack the team double to the oppositions advantage just to give them a chance.
hollow mulch
Did they fire the BF1 marketing team or something?
hollow mulch
“Too dark and depressing! Your fired!”
opaque hinge
They were re hired
regal sapphire
They're slowly succumbing to the shit that is EA
solid hinge
They need to remove the reveal trailer and replace it with the launch trailer
hoary condor
1 hr 45mins.. then i can make my 2 hour journey home 😄
cold trail
Did anyone else see the weird jagged lighting or the disappearing lighting (even the giant spotlights) in BFV? My XB1 was getting upset or something, but the rays were very strange.
zinc salmon
iv look all over and i know i get to play BF5 today but i cant find a time :/ fig this good spot to ask around
regal sapphire
If they're not gonna compensate for BF5 launching earlier for Premier scam then fuck them
cold trail
@regal sapphire Wooo saaahh that 🙂
hollow mulch
Although all the BF1 trailers were fucking amazing
regal sapphire
What?
cold trail
Dial it down a little, don’t let it get to you.
regal sapphire
Oh it already has, from getting scammed today from Origin Access to this bs release format I already say fuck them
opaque hinge
$$$$$
I cant blame them
Bfv sales are pretty low afaik so they gotta make up for it somehow
cold trail
@regal sapphire I am not sure how it’s a supposed scam, but maybe it’s worth connecting with them at EA Support to discuss?
opaque hinge
It sucks but from a business perspective makes sense
regal sapphire
I have, and they just confirmed the scam
In my country basically there's no Premier
calm sorrel
Coutin give me youre account
opaque hinge
the scam
cold trail
@regal sapphire How is that a scam?
regal sapphire
And they don't mention what version of the Origin Access you're getting when you go to buy it
regal sapphire
It just says "Origin Access" even on the nickname on origin
cold trail
@regal sapphire Sounds like a limitation. I am pretty sure they’re not attempting to scam anyone.
tight kettle
it's either origin access basic or premiere
regal sapphire
It doesnt say Basic
cold trail
Yes, Origin Access was always the basic package. Has been for awhile.
regal sapphire
It just says Origin Access
tight kettle
link
brave breach
wait so EA access doesnt work?
narrow mantle
From what I can tell, there's no XBox version of Premier either. It was not an option when I launched the EA Access Hub
tight kettle
ea access basic has access to 10 hr trial
regal sapphire
EA access does not work, you only get a 10 hour trial
opaque hinge
Ea access does work..
cold trail
It does work.
brave breach
yeah but im not even getting the trial
opaque hinge
Yes that's what basic is silly
cold trail
I have it. I played it yesterday.
opaque hinge
Ea access basic is 10h
gilded field
BF5 is SO MUCH FUN
cold trail
@brave breach it doesn’t show up in the trial section?
brave breach
do you just load right into the game? im still getting the "too early" message
misty condor
Hey all 😃 New member
brave breach
@cold trail let me check
regal sapphire
Guess what? I didn't even know that I was getting the Basic version till I showed their shitty purposedly vague words
cold trail
@brave breach you have to load it from the EA Hub, and not the regular title. The trial version.
brave breach
ok
opaque hinge
So much salt
brave breach
@cold trail will my progress carry over?
regal sapphire
If you got scammed you'd be salty too
gilded field
I'm sorry youre jelly @opaque hinge . Your opportunity will come very soon
regal sapphire
They literally don't say it on the purchase page
cold trail
@brave breach I believe so, but don’t quote me.
vague escarp
It would be cool if we could have ghilli suit in Bf5
opaque hinge
6 more days for mee
misty condor
Yes your progress continues after trial
regal sapphire
That's a fraud in my country's laws
brave breach
@cold trail alright. thanks for the help
regal sapphire
Purposedly leaving core info from the purchase screen is
narrow mantle
I'm sorry, but not. I did plenty of research. The problem is that nothing is spelled out clearly and definitely.
regal sapphire
Yup
misty condor
Is Premier not available for PS4?
cold trail
@regal sapphire It’s ‘common’ knowledge that that is the basic level of account type. I am not sure why you would think otherwise. It doesn’t need to say “basic” for it to be basic. My EA Access doesn’t say “basic”, but I still know what it is.
brave breach
no
misty condor
I think that was known for quite a while though
unreal charm
@regal sapphire unless you paid premier price for basic, scammed is still questionable
brave breach
@misty condor sadly none of the ps4 players get early access on the 9th
misty condor
When you buy Premier you get a Basic refund to make up the differnece
regal sapphire
Well you're a moderator from BF server so ofc that's basic knowledge for you
misty condor
Dont think its a scam. If it's Premier it'll say 'Premier' somewhere on the screen
regal sapphire
Why doesn't it say "Basic" then
forest cargo
?
cold trail
@regal sapphire I’ve been a mod in training her for less than a month, LOL.
unreal charm
it's says access and access premier
gilded field
EA access subscription involves many titles. It's not limited to BF5 so it doesn't make sense to me that they would give that info on the purchase page
cold trail
*here
misty condor
Because there is no distinction at the moment. It never used to say Basic on PC before Premier arrived
regal sapphire
Not in my country Knight
ivory plume
yeah @brave breach rip guys but at least u get really good exclusives
ancient idol
@cold trail how does it feel to have power
regal sapphire
It just has "Origin Access"
ancient idol
do u feel the dark side taking over from the inside
brave breach
@ivory plume yeah
ivory plume
bf5 -> xbox and cod -> ps4
unreal charm
@regal sapphire where are you from
misty condor
If it just says Access you can't just assume its Premier, especially if the price is 3.99
opaque hinge
join the dark side
regal sapphire
Brazil, and it was 47 reais which is roughly 12 dollars
gilded field
They did have it when you look up all the early access release info
unreal charm
store page?
cold trail
@ancient idol It feels like a chance to take care of our community and that responsibility I am mindful of.
opaque hinge
claims he got scammed when he thought he got an amazing deal
regal sapphire
You can only access it if you use a vpn to brazil iirc
proud bough
Inb4 he brings up an amazon site
unreal charm
also, pretty sure they specify premier subscription for access premier
regal sapphire
No I bought it from the Origin page itself
calm sorrel
thats what id have done
ancient idol
the launch trailer is cool af
regal sapphire
It's supposed to be confusing so they get money from people that are confused, we literally have a law for that in Brazil
proud bough
Used a lot of assets from previous trailers tho
cold trail
@regal sapphire Seems like a case of operator error, unfortunately.
misty condor
It's probably not availble for PS4 because Sony
proud bough
@regal sapphire or you know, you’re just confused?
calm sorrel
just sue them then
proud bough
It isn’t supposed to be this grand conspiracy to get your money
regal sapphire
It's completely not Operator error, they make it vague so people make this mistake
And lose their money for something they didn't want
misty condor
What. No they don't
unreal charm
@regal sapphire show us the store page, if there's no premier banner there's no premier
proud bough
@unreal charm he can only DM you the picture since this chat doesn’t allow attachments
solid hinge
is anyone else having issues with their level 10 class weapon
unreal charm
if they offer you access premier while giving you access basic, that's a scam
solid hinge
it says available next round for some reason
unreal charm
you can play it after your round end
solid hinge
the intro in bf5 was better then the whole campaign from cod bo4
cold trail
@regal sapphire By that logic, one could suggest they’re doing it purposefully in order to keep Brazilian players from playing because their Internet is so bad they lag out everyone else in the game. But no, that’s not accurate because it’s not a conspiracy to fleece you deceptively for your money. You didn’t read, I’m sorry to say, and you inferred. Buyer beware my friend.
ivory plume
@solid hinge i had that earlier u just gotta wait till nextround
solid hinge
oh wait
pure veldt
So request a refund and go on with life, next
sacred junco
are the friend codes out now?
solid hinge
yes
misty condor
@solid hinge I had the same prob. Wouldn't unlock unless I quit the game and went to Company
gilded field
I'm not used to the M + KB. Last night I went to stab someone and I kept mashing the keyboard, trying to find the F key. Probably need to bind it to the mouse. Although, I probably will drop the PC game anyway for the Xbox version.
tight kettle
It's a shame Brazil doesn't have access to this game. I miss the HUEHUEHUE
sacred junco
do I need to be on Origin to give?
solid hinge
i quit the game many times and everything it still locked
ill try and play a full game or somehting
misty condor
Check in company?
calm sorrel
why Brazil dont have access to the game
steel fjord
sight Brazileiros
proud bough
How do I do friend codes?
gray glade
9 levels remaining now
unreal charm
@calm sorrel check origin access page
gray glade
until i get mg42 😄
misty condor
Levelling support atm.
gilded field
@gray glade is hard to shoot
pure veldt
And then get pissed you can't ads while standing?
gray glade
yeah i reckon so
gilded field
you need to use the bipod to ADS
gray glade
should be some good specializations for it tho
proud bough
Heard the MG42 isn’t worth it
gilded field
it's a bit annoying
regal sapphire
gray glade
yeah im using them mg34 to get used to not being able to ads
proud bough
Thompson on the other hand I heard very good things about 
regal sapphire
My internet is decent you ass
steel fjord
It's a conspiracy to prevent people from using the MG42
narrow mantle
I'm really not a fan of the new marking mechanism
cold trail
The MG42 is useless unless you’re ADS which means bipoding, or your in close enough proximity that you can see their bridgework.
gilded field
I use the first support gun a lot
gray glade
that sounds like the mg34 hydra
proud bough
Seems more like an antique than anything I’d actively use
misty condor
Bren is beast when upgraded
gray glade
the mg34 has attrocious accuracy unless bipod
proud bough
I plan on grinding medic until I get that Thompson
gray glade
i was 1½ m away from a guy and i sprayed him with 40 bullets, i did 12 damage despite crosshair being center mass
steel fjord
are people using the spawn thing beacon at all?
cold trail
In the beta we said this a lot, but they need to nerf the STEN! That weapon is way to accurate from way to far.
gilded field
I go for medic in BF1 but the BF5 medic only uses SMGs.
solid hinge
There's a bolt action / semi automatic for the medic somewhere
gilded field
I play support and I can support my squad that way
hoary condor
i'm a so no problem for me
wild oxide
Does the Flare Gun suck, or am I just using it wrong? I fire it up into the air but it still only covers a small area.
cold trail
There is no SMG I have ever fired that would be putting groupings like that down as what I would guess is 400 yards.
gilded field
@solid hinge do you mean a self-loading rifle?
solid hinge
Something like that yeah
gilded field
I could go for that.
solid hinge
They were there for medic in bf1
gilded field
I need to check the unlocks at the homescreen to be sure
cold trail
@gray glade No, I am hydranine, the Youtube/Twitch streamer.
gray glade
ah, sry then 😃
cold trail
No worries
misty condor
Who?
proud bough
Sten is fiiiiine
steel fjord
weird flex but ok
proud bough
Haven’t gotten the chance to try out the MP40 tho, but I reckon it’s the same as it was in the beta
misty condor
Does BFV work in Ansel?
proud bough
Campaign
steel fjord
not it works at DICE
gray glade
did they fix the planes btw? i played a little bit and planes feel quite nice now i must admit
solid hinge
Yeah
cold trail
The MP40 is underpowered.
solid hinge
They're faster now
cold trail
Just had no takedown.
gray glade
bombers are very useful i feel
proud bough
@gray glade they still fly like bricks, but they’re good when mastered
gray glade
ye
tired basalt
has anyone been able to spawn as a gunner in bombers?
proud bough
Maxed out the me109 and I’m lvl 3 on both spitfires
cold trail
The bombers are glitched out on XB1, you can squad join the pilot, so will always be 1/2.
proud bough
Spitfires are broken though
gray glade
i had a gunner when i was a bomber @tired basalt
but it was always a squad mate
not sure if that matters
tired basalt
i had a squadmate on PC last night who couldn't join me as a gunner
cold trail
*cant
zinc salmon
iv restarted iv done it all and it still wont let me play :/
gray glade
@zinc salmon what happens?
proud bough
If you upgrade the spitfire, some weapons share the same key and you can’t work around that
solid hinge
I wish for maps like hamada and twisted steel they had runways for planes
So you could repair easily
zinc salmon
i per loaded it 2 days ago so cauld play it and NOPE
cold trail
As there are no heat seekers, there probably should be more AA batteries on the maps, or at least more effective ones, but right now the planes are owning folks on at least two maps I played last night.
solid hinge
what is a good class for beginners?
cold trail
Medic or Support.
tired basalt
give it some time, i think once people unlock fighter/bomber planes you'll have an air to air check on bombers
solid hinge
ok
cold trail
@proud bough Did you say hail hydra? 😄
zinc vale
the suomi with the vertical recoil reduction is crazy
proud bough
I dominated in an me109 last night
zinc vale
It feels like it has almost no recoil
cold trail
Yeah, Twisted Steel was realbad.com
proud bough
I feel like we’re walking about the same match
solid hinge
Wait how do bombers and planes resupply
gray glade
you fly over the resupply thingy
its in the air
its 3 icons next to eachother and visible on minimap
tired basalt
i have better luck flying lower
pure veldt
they should be forced to land
dawn mango
i won
proud bough
Oh no I wasn’t lol
glass loom
everyone still happy?
gray glade
well, remember that the stuka for example can only drop the load once then it has to go resupply
tired basalt
apparently they're going to have a hook system in the future, you have to fly low between to poles and 'hook' the supplies up to you
gray glade
so it takes a while anyway
cold trail
I think each map should have been made with an airstrip where planes were a part of the gameplay. And in order to resupply, they had to land and do so properly. Why are we required to risk life and limb to pick up ammo from a cache and they’re not? 🤔
pure veldt
they should balance everything around having to land so that people can strategically try to place vehicle mines etc on runways 😉
cold trail
Good
tired basalt
make bombs realistic in size and i'd be down
pure veldt
or just snipe
tired basalt
and allow me to fly at a realistic ceiling height
cold trail
That brings balance and more realism to the fight without making it a full on milsim
pure veldt
dont spread your realism propaganda in here 😉
gray glade
it feel its balanced atm tbh
pure veldt
thatll open up pandora's box
zinc salmon
i give up ill just see you all on the 14th
proud bough
prog
zinc salmon
what a wast of a pre download
tired basalt
i think the airfield stuff just makes map design worse - now we have to have an airfield within 2 km of another airfield? how on earth is that realistic
gray glade
the bombers feel quite vulnerable against a fighter, and if you had to land all the time nobody would be a bomber
ivory plume
Man they need to iron out some hitbox issues when your pronewith the lmgs
midnight nimbus
@cold trail "MP40 is underpowered" "Sten is OP" 😂😂😂
cold trail
No, it wouldn’t open up a Pandora’s box because the landing zones would be restricted from the player map and could only be attacked by another plane.
We’re talking touch and goes.
Not 49 mins on the ground.
misty condor
Should bring back Hueys... no wait. Wrong game
gray glade
landing a plane isnt all that ez for a beginner tho
you'd see ppl crash all the time 😄
i would accept if you had to fly low over an airstrip tho
cold trail
@gray glade They could simplify that with a procedure
tired basalt
I think what they're planning to do is good - it still requires planes to 'line up' and slow down, without forcing weird map design decisions to have airfields
midnight nimbus
requiring planes to takeoff and land utterly breaks the game
cold trail
@gray glade Yeah, even that.
glass loom
can we rent own servers already?
cold trail
@glass loom No
gray glade
airstrips didnt work very well in BF3 i feel
glass loom
but but but but
midnight nimbus
airstrips have worked terribly every time they're implemented
pure veldt
@midnight nimbus then you better put more flak cannons or other ways to bring planes down into the game compared to some BF1 maps where planes just went 60-2 each game
pure veldt
if someone can go 60 kills compared to everyone elses 20, the planes are broken
gray glade
good pilots in bf3 could completely dominate the air because they would just wait for enemy pilot to lift from the air strip and then flank it
tired basalt
i felt like in BF1 you just need a dedicated group or 2 or 3 people and most planes were ineffective
midnight nimbus
problem with BF1 is no lock ons for area denial
cold trail
@pure veldt Agreed, my earlier point, because the planes are overwhelming ground forces on several maps.
pure veldt
already again? great
midnight nimbus
just instagib with the Burton
gray glade
the plane balance are way better than in bf1 anyways
cold trail
I went 4 and 22 from a plane on a game I joined@into last night.
gray glade
no more strategic bomba
pure veldt
they respawn fast enough by the time anyone takes them down it's back up
when does the timer start, on death or spawn?
if someone is in the air for 10 minutes can they instantly hop back in one again on death if they are looking for it etc?
pure veldt
air in BFront2 was never a big issue, i dont understand the problem in V, not enough to counter air?
cold trail
B52 didn’t exist then. The B17 was the workhorse.
ivory plume
omg lol i thought the mastery challenges were both not complete 1 of the 2
gray glade
various bugs aside, i must admit i really like this game so far
the gameplay feels very solid
midnight nimbus
virgin 8000lb B-17 bomb payload
cold trail
@pure veldt Not enough counter-air or their effectiveness needs to be dialed down (and their turn radius re-checked, because I flew one last night and the turn I pulled would have sheered the wings off one of those airframes).
midnight nimbus
chad 70000lb B-52 payload
sacred junco
Japanese Knee Mortar Gadget 
gray glade
the b17 was pretty badass in bf1942 tbh
you could rek like half the team if you were lucky
pure veldt
@cold trail yea thats not good, even if flak cant take down the air easily it would at least cause them to not have free reign over the center of the battlefield
unreal charm
@sacred junco that could be a legit gadget
cold trail
@midnight nimbus Why would they put a B52 in WWII when it doesn’t exist in that timeframe?
unreal charm
but you know, there'll be salt
sacred junco
they were bad enough in Rising Storm
cold trail
@pure veldt Indeed
pure veldt
if they place some AA in the hot zones and make planes harass outer areas that would be good enough
sacred junco
At least there was Asymmetric balance tied to the gadget
pure veldt
planes can dominate the beginning and end but not the meat
midnight nimbus
the M1919 didn't exist in WW1 but we had it in BF1
might as well give me the B-2 stealth bomber in BFV
hoary condor
planes get smashed out the sky if i'm in the game lol
solid hinge
is the lewis gun glitched
solid hinge
i cant fucking use it even though im level 10 on support
sacred junco
Nobody made a fuss about that
solid hinge
it says available next round
hoary condor
kill the application and re-launch
solid hinge
it been sayin that forever
midnight nimbus
attrition kinda kills any desire to play non medic classes
hoary condor
i tried medic but always ended up trying to play assault tactics lol
solid hinge
i think the gun is misslabled
whats the key to open the menu where you cann in an airstrike?
*call
lusty drum
Does anyone know if you can do the ledge grab jump, and if so, how? I could never get it to work in beta.
Not the wall mantle, the running jump.
silver shale
If you stick near either an objective or squad, assault is more rewarding. Attrition punishes "lone wolf" style assault
Which admittedly, makes surprise flanking way harder
hoary condor
True
cold trail
@midnight nimbus The M1919 wasn’t in production until 1919, but there were some models prior to that prototypes and issued to forces in WWI, so I suspect there was enough leeway in that. Big difference though in 1 year of a weapon that can effect some casualties and an airframe roughly nine years after the war that could decimate a map. LOL
hoary condor
but lone flanking isn't always good
gray glade
@lusty drum i did a few times
hoary condor
you can X amount out, but if you have more players, it opens it up
zinc vale
Yeah i've done it on rotterdam
gray glade
over one of the broken bridges, just sprintjumped over the gap
sacred junco
Lack of easy 3d spots does make it easier to flank still
stone plaza
issued to forces in WWI
[citation needed]
silver shale
@hoary condor yeah it usually doesn't work. But if you do get it to work it's crazy powerful
sacred junco
so you could reasonable sneak around
hoary condor
yeah i bet
lusty drum
@gray glade That's exactly why I want to know how to do it. For the demolished bridges.
sacred junco
rather than poke out once and get a dorito that everyone can see
hoary condor
on i usually get around the back defense of the enemy, but i'm running as a scout lol
i usually shoot flares and chuck gas lol
then use olde faithful Saber melee
gray glade
no need to overthink it, just try to do it i guess, i did it without realizing it was gonna happen lol
lusty drum
Everybody is sleeping on the Recon spotting scope, btw. Point that thing at a squad and they all get the "delete me" 3D spot. It's kind of crazy.
silver shale
A flank is still possible, but you will only get one or two engagements before you run low on ammo out health
sacred junco
that's why you have squad spawn
hoary condor
or that one big engagement but end up getting over-run on the reload
sacred junco
so you can get a support back there
lusty drum
Has anybody used the weird grenade pistol thing for Support? Is it any good?
silver shale
Exactly. Much harder to single handed kill a while squad just because you caught them looking the other way
wild oxide
I have, the AT Grenade Pistol does decent damage, but personally I'm sticking with the AT Mines. It doesn't do as much damage and it can't really destroy buildings/fortifications
cold trail
@stone plaza it’s called the M1917 and is literally the grandfather of the air-cooled M1919.
gray glade
i used the nade-pistol thingy since i only played support and vehicles so far
stone plaza
oh i thought you meant m1919 thompson
cold trail
I got that last night
cold trail
@stone plaza No worries
hoary condor
yeah most likely to give a short sharp explosion
stone plaza
kht was referring to thompson
gray glade
vehicles, buildings or ppl inside buildings
hoary condor
to threat light vehicles/fortifications
lusty drum
I see.
glad wasp
Ok, everyone complains the medic guns are bad, am I the only one who actually prefers that class in pure infantry combat
wild oxide
Hits to the rear do a ton of damage in BFV now. You can two shot a Panzer IV with Panzerfausts with good shot placement
lusty drum
Also, question about suppression.. do people really not see the 3D spot if you're not running machine gunner? I was seeing 3D suppression diamonds a lot last night, and I doubt they were from machine gunners, since very few have the combat role unlocked already.
glad wasp
Machinegun suppression only gives like a holo effect on target
the 3d spotting is from recon scope
hoary condor
lusty drum
Not the spotting scope emblem. The diamond.
glad wasp
or flare/tank/plane gadget
lusty drum
I was seeing it a lot last night, and I really doubt that was because of machine gunners.
lusty drum
@sacred junco No, it's a true sight system. If it's occluded in any way, you don't get the mark.
glad wasp
if you are talking about hollowed out diamonds, its from suppression
lusty drum
Yes, the hollow diamond.
lusty drum
Yeah, but can they do it without the Machine Gunner combat role?
lusty drum
The MG perks imply otherwise.
glad wasp
but not needed
sacred junco
you could technically do it with any gun
glad wasp
I dont think I have suppressed anyone with a smg, but can confirm doable with tank mg
teal plank
Do you need to buy only Origin access premier to play the game, or do you need to buy the official deluxe version also?
glad wasp
just premier
solid hinge
Honestly am I the only one who hates the sten
I'm a long range automatic load rifle type dude
glad wasp
sten sucks
solid hinge
I can't stand smgs for medic
teal plank
Okay thank you
obsidian fossil
I feel like they need to improve the ttd and awareness. Youll usually get hit by someone and by the time you turn around youre dead
glad wasp
and then spray hip from 50 m away
solid hinge
I do also feel the player speed is a bit too fast
sacred junco
i think its an awareness issue since you are gonna be caught redhanded more often now
lusty drum
TTD is definitely a problem. I think there's a hit stacking issue on the network side.
teal plank
And can you only play till the 20th or?
obsidian fossil
player speed is waaay too fast
glad wasp
With premium, you can play as long as your sub is active
solid hinge
or ask the programmers
obsidian fossil
yea
sacred junco
I think someone did do the math in BFV
glad wasp
Both movement and ttk are faster in bf4 compared to bfv
solid hinge
also fov settings are a integral thing because they make you feel fast
glad wasp
rip fo76
obsidian fossil
i wonder if they should decrease the damage vignette and increase the prominence of the directional damage indicators
itll make it easier and quicker to tell
sacred junco
oh Drunkkz3 posted
Running: 3,4 m/s (back = 3m/s --- left and right = 3,2 m/s)
Sprinting: 6,035 m/s at best, has the same directional modifiers as running (in terms of scale).
obsidian fossil
jesus
zinc vale
what about crouch running?
midnight nimbus
sacred junco
same as BF1
midnight nimbus
slower than BF4
glad wasp
I think run speed is fine, people often forget BF2 is actually clunky as fuck
sacred junco
and I have to admit
midnight nimbus
people often forget a lot of things about BF2
solid hinge
Both games are going to be the same with 90% of the team on conquest capping one flag
sacred junco
the vaulting in BF1 actually worked very well
lusty drum
Has anybody used the sniper decoy yet? is it any good? lol
solid hinge
sacred junco
clunky spots, but it does work most of the time
and makes traversing terrain more of a breeze
glad wasp
vaulting seems like just a frostbite issue, you learn to deal with it
sacred junco
Rotterdam was less of a clusterfuck in CQ than a lot of games
Only prolonged clusterfuck was in A so far
because of the damn stairs
glad wasp
I think so far, the worst map is fjord something something
storm marlin
I will play Thursday
glad wasp
the planes are pointless since they cant really make a big difference on ground
zinc vale
Rotterdam on operations was cluttered af with everyone spawning on A at the start
that was crazy
lusty drum
I was prepared to hate Fjord, but I loved it.
obsidian fossil
i guess another weird thing is that there isnt really any predictability when it comes to where enemies are, like usually theyre just all around you at all times, which makes it kind of hard to revive teammates sometimes
lusty drum
Not a big fan of Devastation, tbh.
storm marlin
How are planes now vs the beta?
sacred junco
They def did copy paste the Middle Eastern Houses from BF1
glad wasp
it just become a big grinder
sacred junco
Ah Tsaritsyn again
storm marlin
I can play today, but I kinda just want to wait until I can play the whole game without a 10 hr limit
glad wasp
Planes got a lot faster
lusty drum
@storm marlin Very good. The machine guns on fighters have a ton of splash now, so strafing is very effective. Bombers don't seem very effective on bombing runs, though.
storm marlin
Aw
gray glade
the bomber i used was quite effective
storm marlin
I liked the beta bombers kinda
gray glade
you just have to hope fighters arent looking at ya 😄
lusty drum
What does everyone think about the possibility of manual leaning? DICE are experimenting with it..
gray glade
what does it mean?
obsidian fossil
what's the point of contextual leaning
glad wasp
it wont work on consoles intuitively
glad wasp
I cant imagine siege playing great on consoles
sacred junco
They already added backwards dives
obsidian fossil
i suppose
glad wasp
I personally dont like manual lean, i think it hinders momentum of the game
sacred junco
Manual lean could be added in without too much issue
mossy badge
One lesson kids, Never backwards dive with an MMG.
glad wasp
Leaning makes more sense for games like squad
obsidian fossil
i think manual leaning would compliment the slower pace of the game greatly
sacred junco
Only thing I wonder is if the procedural and fragmentrd nature of destruction in BF can cause exploits with lean
obsidian fossil
you could check corners or peek out windows
mossy badge
Leaning in battlefield would be great for trolling snipers
glad wasp
also, head glitching is bad enough as is
mossy badge
Now i'm to the left, now i'm to the right...
obsidian fossil
i wanna do the siege wiggle lean
mossy badge
repeat 20 times till he runs out of ammo
lusty drum
Insurgency Sandstorm handles leaning pretty well, imo.
sacred junco
Like peeking in weird piece of ruined buildings
thorn condor
Just got my first crash in the campaign, what a great game
glad wasp
I havent even touched campaign
sacred junco
Its okay
lusty drum
It's a much smaller hit window in a very fast TTK game, but it changes your recoil angle. So it's not entirely net-positive.
mossy badge
I'm trying to get the MG42, but i keep playing tanks too much.
glad wasp
Both faction light tank is the shit
mossy badge
I like the PZ 38t with the 20mm
sacred junco
Staghound is not a tank reeee
mossy badge
It can take on a valentine and win
mossy badge
Armoured Car
mossy badge
The germans also had armoured cars, most famously i think was the Puma.
sacred junco
Does it actually drive differently from a tank?
undone patio
222 dice pls
sacred junco
the Staghound
glad wasp
But its basically a ww2 mobile gun system no?
mossy badge
It was wheels instead of tracks, so yeah.
lusty drum
Not really. A MGS is closer to a tank destroyer.
sacred junco
Probably
glad wasp
Wheels + turrets but fair enough
undone patio
was there any talk of a sdkfz 222
mossy badge
A tank destroyer is technically a Self propelled gun.
sacred junco
Like a Stryker with a gun?
gray glade
those who have used the stg, how is it compared to the beta?
glad wasp
thats what the mgs is, stryker with a gun
lusty drum
An armored car is not really historically upgunned to take on armor, whereas MGSes can do so as a secondary role.
glad wasp
As if stryker have armor
sacred junco
None of the non-turreted tanks for the Soviets were designated as Tank Destroyers
lusty drum
Yes, because Soviet doctrine treated them closer to assault guns.
mossy badge
You can have turreted tank destroyers though, look at the M10 and M18 from the Americans.
mossy badge
It depends on the doctrine, the country
sacred junco
Is a Firefly a TD?
sacred junco
But a Jackson is?
glad wasp
US tank destroyer doctrine is weird, they view TD as the primary anti tank weapon
Tanks are more used for breakthrough and infantry support
mossy badge
The Jackson is a turreted tank destroyer.
lusty drum
It's really not. Armored cars are upgunned recon vehicles. MGSes are closer to a wheeled assault gun with a secondary AT capability.
You guys are confusing equipment with doctrine.
glad wasp
ww2 was filled with weird experimental armor
mossy badge
Not really.
glad wasp
Back to the game, anyone else annoyed theres no german TD in BF?
glad wasp
Stug would make the most sense
lusty drum
I disagree. WWII is harder to define, because most countries had a lot of fantastical ideas on doctrine that never really panned out, so reality took over and uses for equipment changed on a practical basis.
Whereas modern doctrine is more flexible to begin with.
mossy badge
The churchill gun carrier was a mistake
sacred junco
The biggest meme of BFV
mossy badge
That flat 80mm plate is awful
mossy badge
The Halftrack with the 75mm ?
sacred junco
Mobile Rocket Platform
mossy badge
Sturmtiger is breakthrough tank i think
lusty drum
Somewhere between a breakthrough tank and heavy assault gun, yeah.
mossy badge
It has a 380mm rocket launcher
glad wasp
Germans could definitely use a stug to complete the armor line up
lusty drum
Yeah it's kind of weird that there's not StuG.
lusty drum
It was massively overproduced versus the Panzers.
glad wasp
call in could have been a jagdtiger, at least that thing was actually used in combat
hoary summit
glad wasp
Following the armor line up of the brits and germans, what do you guys think US and Soviets will bring?
lusty drum
T-34, obv
glad wasp
Sherman for US med
lusty drum
Sherman is obvious for U.S. Probably a wolverine as a call in.
glad wasp
Easy 8 design can probably be a part of specialization
pure veldt
this trailer is going to replace porn tonight
glad wasp
What about lights
mossy badge
I mean the Stugs were based off the aging PZ III chassis
lusty drum
Yeah, I bet we get Easy 8s as a specialization or cosmetic.
glad wasp
Bt7 for russian lights?
mossy badge
and the Easy Eight was almost an entire different tank to normal shermans
glad wasp
What would be a US light that make sense
lusty drum
Poorly. 😄
mossy badge
The earlier Panzer IV's used the short stubby 75mm, as for the later variants F2 and up used the long 75mm and model G and up had a different muzzle
US Light tanks, M22 locust, M5 Stuart, M24 Chaffee
sacred junco
I feel like they'd either have to really stretch the reality of Japanese tanks
lusty drum
Stuart is my bet for U.S. light.
glad wasp
Chaffee would be cool
sacred junco
or design maps that entirely forgo most vehicle types in the Pacific
glad wasp
Heavies?
mossy badge
The japanese didn't have actual heavy tanks
lusty drum
Pershing?
glad wasp
KV1 or IS2?
sacred junco
Jumbo or a Pershing
lusty drum
inb4 the Pershing didn't fight in the war
mossy badge
Pershing is Technically a Medium tank, Jumbo short 75mm or long 76mm ?
gray glade
you prolly dont wanna use heavy tanks in the jungle