It's magazine is too small to be effective imo
#battlefield-legacy-titles
icy sluice
steep radish
Its just unusual
compact oxide
The experimental is so bouncy and the storm is a worse automatico
storm gulch
Barely entered the era of automatic weapons and they already supposedly deployed automatic pistols in ww1
steep radish
How do you expect me to assault with a burst 15 bullets
icy sluice
btw, CTE is probably coming back for BFV
compact oxide
Hit and run with those 15
sullen mist
Not surprised it's coming back
storm gulch
😂
sullen mist
Dragging and ducking in tanks needs actual players to test the mechanics
compact oxide
It's a similar playstyle to the Autoloading factory
icy sluice
That's hot
compact oxide
storm gulch
icy sluice
Yo, can I make sure my child was conceived in a tank?
storm gulch
Go to a museum and break into one
sullen mist
Good thing there's female customisation, get ready for some woman on woman tanker hot sweaty greasy oily action
tight kettle
Get a tog ii
limber anchor
Is dragging really gonna be viable tho?
tight kettle
Plenty of room to fucc
icy sluice
Also, that's hot both... sexually and physically. Tanks would be hot as shit during sex
steep radish
Fallout 76 is so broken it glitched itself to suicide
icy sluice
Dragging will help with Squad Revives
steep radish
@icy sluice What
icy sluice
They're giant pieces of metal
steep radish
This is a battlefield channel wtf
steep radish
^
icy sluice
You'd come out with a coat of sweat on you
tight kettle
Your shit is hot? I bet you frequent taco bell
storm gulch
steep radish
When’d we get from talking about CTE
To Oh yea boyos gotta get that female customization
icy sluice
Ooooh yeah bruther
sullen mist
You can thank me for mentioning lesbian tankers getting it on in their cosy boiling machine
steep radish
Hot fucking greasy oily tank wamayhn
icy sluice
Honestly, that sounds like an anime
storm gulch
Brother Duc, these fetishes are quite peculiar
steep radish
when I read the message
sullen mist
Thanks, I agree as well
compact oxide
I'll have to be a female just so I can tbag peeps
steep radish
like some dumbshit anime about a bunch of female tankers
icy sluice
Knowledge of Strike Witches hurting my head
storm gulch
vbag
steep radish
In WW2
icy sluice
don't google what strike witches is
sullen mist
I already know what it is
icy sluice
k.
sullen mist
icy sluice
ok no get that out
steep radish
the fuck is this
sullen mist
WW2
steep radish
PANZERSOLDAT THE FUCK IS THIS
icy sluice
As you've never seen it before
storm gulch
How are you going to tell someone not to google it, and then expect them not to
steep radish
WOAH
sacred junco
What you don't like wimmen in ww2?
steep radish
No I dont like fucking loli’s in their goddam short shorts in WW2
icy sluice
Blocked words
sullen mist
You ain't seen Azur Lane
sacred junco
funny you still call it short shorts
icy sluice
I actually haven't seen Azur Lane
tight kettle
To counter women in war all you have to do is bomb the lipgloss supply lines
sullen mist
Humanised ships
icy sluice
They're called Hot Pants
storm gulch
They have it on Blu-ray 😂
steep radish
Im not fucking calling it hot pants
icy sluice
I am not gonna watch it
steep radish
@icy sluice You on Xbox?
sullen mist
No he's on ps3
icy sluice
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
icy sluice
No, I am on the Colecovision
proud bough
imagine thinking bfv is a good game 
steep radish
it is
storm gulch
Lmao
wild oxide
You tellin' me you haven't pre-ordered BFV for the Virtual Boy?
icy sluice
Actually getting BFV on a notebook
storm gulch
I pre-ordered the pin ball machine
steep radish
My dude the fucking ** PAPER** is where its at
sullen mist
I'm getting Battlefield V on a game of tic tac toe
icy sluice
Experience Battlefield V on a Calculator
storm gulch
STONE
steep radish
why BUY BFV when you can just DRAW IT
sullen mist
BfV ON A STONE AGE ERA ROCK DRAWING
wild oxide
It's just a description of what happens in BFV etched into rock
sacred junco
Rockfield V
steep radish
rock included
sullen mist
Lesbianfield V when
wild oxide
Battlefield 50,000 BC
tight kettle
Boomers new favorite game
steep radish
Get the BFV preorder now to get a a rock from WW2
storm gulch
Get BFV to get that cyborg female hook
steep radish
Rip cyborg hook
steep radish
Nah m8 friends editon
icy sluice
Battlefield V is now a TV Show
steep radish
BFV is where its ar
wild oxide
I can't wait for the Young Sheldon DLC
steep radish
LMFAO BATTLEFIELD THE SITCOM
magic vapor
Is there a way to report someone (BF4)?
sullen mist
Hey guys remember when there was going to be a Bad company TV show? 
steep radish
Drive around like a dipshit in a helicopter?
sacred junco
Glad that didn't happen
sullen mist
I'm surprised it was even considered
steep radish
Yea
storm gulch
Yeah it's M.A.S.H.
magic vapor
That guy flicked a 180 headshot on me with a L115
steep radish
BF4 the TV show wasnt reakky that exhilarating
sacred junco
Quantum Break did become a thing
magic vapor
There's no way he could've done that without aimbot
storm gulch
You mean Black Mirror?
steep radish
@magic vapor or luck
icy sluice
Maybe he was incredibly lucky or it lagged on either yours or his part?
magic vapor
I'm serious there's no way he could do that
steep radish
Xbox one is in your name @icy sluice
magic vapor
He had 30 headshots from his 30 kills on the match
icy sluice
Alright that's a sign
steep radish
I didnt notice that
magic vapor
And immediately if someone was visible he shot em
steep radish
Oof
storm gulch
Nah it happens, one time some guy lagged and he shot me while looking at the sky with a double jointed arm
storm gulch
steep radish
and then some fucker shot my friend
wild oxide
Well, I've never reported someone but check this link. There is a section for Reporting on PC
https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/faq/report-players-for-cheating-abuse-and-harassment
icy sluice
Someone was facing forward and I got headshot, apparently the rifle was backwards
magic vapor
I played 2 matches with them and I'm pretty damn sure that guy is hacking
And rip I'm on PS
limber anchor
Quick question was there a ppsh in the beta I completely forgot
storm gulch
On PS? I doubt it
steep radish
@limber anchor no
icy sluice
No PPSH in the beta but there was the Suomi KP
steep radish
ye
steep radish
Which was shit
storm gulch
Woah
icy sluice
Suomi was great
limber anchor
Is it in the game period
steep radish
WAY too much bark for my bite
sullen mist
Yes
steep radish
I liked the sten
icy sluice
It will more than likely come into the game later
steep radish
Controllable recoil
storm gulch
The sten was good
icy sluice
Sten was a good starting weapon
storm gulch
Loo
steep radish
Cube up
sullen mist
Sten was really good
storm gulch
Damn
steep radish
Cube up
tight kettle
LoL that correction
magic vapor
32 kills on the other match with 32 headshots...
32 kills with 30 headshots on the other match (and atleast one was kill assist to me)
sullen mist
But man I want the M1928
magic vapor
That just ain't possible
icy sluice
Stem cell research
sacred junco
well according to that symthic guy Sten does nothing better than the MP40
steep radish
Those are fighting words
limber anchor
I hope the m1 garand comes soon after launch but I know it probably won’t until they add the us in
sacred junco
Statwise MP40 is mostly better
storm gulch
I'll show you fighting words
icy sluice
Definitely show fighting words since this is all text
storm gulch
Bro them medics in the beta
steep radish
So far up your ass your guy wont be begging for revives for the whole game
compact oxide
Sniper with ZH was god in the beta
icy sluice
Well, I am going to use the Smoke Grenade Launcher
steep radish
Snipers was kewl
limber anchor
I know I’ll be grinding to get that mg42 when I get my hands on the game
icy sluice
I know I'll be grinding on my MG42
storm gulch
Is the Browning MG going to be in the game? 👀
limber anchor
@steep radish that’s in the game?
icy sluice
( don't think they said yeehaw )
limber anchor
@storm gulch no
steep radish
yea
sacred junco
Vickers later
storm gulch
tears
limber anchor
@storm gulch later probably
icy sluice
Vickers is Confirmed
sacred junco
MG34 and MG42 first
steep radish
Whats a vickers
sacred junco
British MMG
icy sluice
an MMG
limber anchor
The BAR is in the game right
sacred junco
no
icy sluice
Not at launch
sacred junco
We gettin the Madsen later tho
wild oxide
The American stuff is coming later essentially
limber anchor
@sacred junco fuck the madsen lol
sacred junco
BFV really does feel like a weird surplus store of weapons
icy sluice
I enjoyed the Bren in the Beta
Your opinion sucks ass, is that alright?
- throwing out more dumbass references no one will get
magic vapor
Okay this is the last message I'll be bothering you with
Is there a way I can possibly make someone investigate the guy atleast?
limber anchor
@sacred junco yea there’s a lot of guns missing
wild oxide
Not really sure how it works on Playstation, but if you have the player's PSN tag, you can probably report the player through them.
magic vapor
Yea I do
sacred junco
I'm fine with the choice given. Only thing I find iffy is some weird SLRs and 3 MP variants being in the game
magic vapor
I can even share the battle reports if needed
limber anchor
@sacred junco what 3 mp variants?
obsidian fossil
thats actually a pretty accurate description
sacred junco
Tho it looks like the BF1 guns are just basically totally different weapons here
magic vapor
They just don't seem to have battlelog profile
sacred junco
150ish rpm Autoloading 8
compact oxide
I wanna see the difference between the ZH and the RSC in bfv tbh
sacred junco
700 rpm M1907
icy sluice
Model 8 coming to the scouts
limber anchor
Is there a full weapons list I can look at?
compact oxide
@limber anchor yup, they put it up on the website
limber anchor
Oof at first glance that list is horrible I hope they add more soon after launch
sacred junco
that's the plan
limber anchor
But atleast I have hitlers buzzsaw that makes up for it I guess
sacred junco
I expect more meme guns too in the future
compact oxide
@unique rose probs better in #streams-and-videos
unique rose
Ooo thank you for the tip 😃
limber anchor
The first dlc will take place in Greece right?
sacred junco
not exactly DLC in the traditional sense, but yeah the first wave of content after release-early is Greece
so I assume its gonna go into straight into Eastern Front or stay around the Mediterranean for a while
limber anchor
Post launch content would’ve probably been a better phrase but do we know what time frame it will release
proud bough
i dont understand why we're skipping over fucking battle of britain to do fuckass greece
sacred junco
Cause nobody likes Air Superiority
proud bough
and no one likes greece
sacred junco
Greece is an interest field
sullen mist
Invasion of Crete tho
proud bough
we're also skipping over the battle of dunkirk
french soldiers vs the coming germans
sullen mist
Apparently the German paratroopers dropped off their planes with no guns while another plane paradropped the weapons in Crete
Kinda fucking insane
sacred junco
Right next to release of BR mode 
sullen mist
Hmmmmmm
sacred junco
Neither does CoD BR at least for me
proud bough
cod BR makes sense cuz its in the future
sacred junco
mechanically CoD does not seem to work with a BR mode
They changed up a lot of what typical CoD is to make it work still
proud bough
and COD BR is purely fictional
limber anchor
@sacred junco cod br is decent they actually did a good job to make it work
sacred junco
I'm sure they did considering its reception
All the more surprsing
Network debacle aside
sacred junco
Mechanically BF is pretty close to BR
compact oxide
BR with tanks
limber anchor
It’s weird that there doing it in ww2 I wonder how it’ll work
sacred junco
but I dunno how they are gonna gain traction with juggernauts like the competitors
with 64 player and squad only
tight kettle
By March bo4 is probably boring
compact oxide
PUBG is also dying because they treat their customers like crap
limber anchor
@sacred junco that really shocked me that cod has a higher player count that bf lol
proud bough
64 player BR sounds pretty boring
tight kettle
The gun play isn't at all interesting
proud bough
BO4 is a cashgrab
sacred junco
it seems to be sprint heal w/ lvl 3 armor the game
proud bough
but it does shine in some aspects
limber anchor
@tight kettle well fortnite gunplay isn’t interesting and look at how popular it is
Lol
sacred junco
used for generations of CoD maps built for CQ arena fights
and make a damn BR out of it
proud bough
spiderman ps4 is the only game i know that has been made with passion this year
no intent of cashgrab
tight kettle
Fortnite is weird. I don't understand. Maybe it's the accessibility
limber anchor
@sacred junco you can’t say they didn’t try lol they did it probably less than 9 million months lol
sacred junco
Fortnite is like anime fights where people build magic skyscrapers tho
very weird to watch
proud bough
fortnite is a well-made game though
limber anchor
@proud bough RDR2?
solid hinge
What about cod
proud bough
@limber anchor didnt follow it, so i dont know much about it
solid hinge
well made game
proud bough
i mean, it is
solid hinge
Ever heard of spray n pray?
proud bough
its community is cancer
solid hinge
I heard from people cod won against battlefield in 2018 which I found interesting
Thats what fortnite is
limber anchor
@proud bough now that game is made with care lol
sacred junco
CoD is a bit of darling again
solid hinge
Cod is bad
sacred junco
BF is a bit of a pariah now
solid hinge
20 Hz servers
limber anchor
@sacred junco exactly lol
proud bough
just because fortnite is spray and pray doesnt necessarily mean its bad, and besides, whats so spray and pray about it
solid hinge
200$ to complete pass
sacred junco
all because of a trailer
solid hinge
Didn’t they bump them to 60 hz in multiplayer recently?
shut summit
How bout those cod mtx though 😂
solid hinge
Do you play fortnite my guy?
proud bough
used to
limber anchor
@solid hinge yea they did
proud bough
doesnt necessarily mean it's not a well-made game per se
solid hinge
Sorry cod
proud bough
it all comes down to preference in that field
solid hinge
Where is the skill there? ( The low skill needed in BR games)
limber anchor
Cod BO4 is pretty decent coming from someone who hates cod since ghosts
proud bough
overall fortnite is made with care and it's a pretty decent game
sacred junco
BR game still is inherently more skillful imo to win
Since it does call for resourcefulness and caution
solid hinge
Nvm you are right
sacred junco
compared to spawn and die and run
solid hinge
Welp yes
sacred junco
RNG and bullshit involved in winning aside
solid hinge
Rng is what sucks
proud bough
RNG sucks in every game
limber anchor
@sacred junco cod br actually takes a surprising amount of skill
solid hinge
Yeah thats why i dont like Brs
proud bough
other than COD zombies but that makes sense
limber anchor
@solid hinge br wouldn’t be the same without RNG
sacred junco
Im sure it does the low ttk does call for more movement and tactics in approach I bet
Assessing vector of approach, items, and weaponry and such
solid hinge
Not the same having the golden scar as having the green burst
limber anchor
@sacred junco the ttk is pretty high in br tho it’s crazy sometimes with armor lol
limber anchor
@solid hinge pls no fortnite references lol
limber anchor
@sacred junco It won’t
solid hinge
Not interested in Battlefield BR
limber anchor
PUBG has such a unique gunplay system
The gunplay is what keeps people coming back to PUBG
At least for me it did lol
spring aurora
PUBGs netcode chased me away months ago. Nothing can really redeem the game from that mess.
limber anchor
@spring aurora well I had to play it on Xbox I can take all the bullshit like it’s nothing lol
solid hinge
I’m not interested in br anymore since it’s just been over saturating the market
#MeToo
sacred junco
I mean it looks like BFV gunplay is a lil more simlar to PUBGs at this point
sacred junco
with stronger emphasis on recoil control
limber anchor
@solid hinge I mean is it really over saturated tho ?
sacred junco
Health/Armor mechanics could be rebuilt for BR gameplay
spring aurora
I dont think BR games is over saturated, mainly cause no game has really done it great yet. Usually netcode lets the game down like COD and PUBG
solid hinge
I mean look at BO4, what makes that game BO4 without campaign? Zombies isnt a valid answer because they could have updated BO3
Yes ever since fortnite and ping kicked off loads of developers have been making br games whether they’re indie or triple a
And loads probably have plans to make a br in future games
limber anchor
@solid hinge I mean bo3 had like 15-20 zombies maps and was like 120gb lol
solid hinge
Yeah
And campaign even if it was bad, still had a relation with other Black Ops games
@spring aurora I feel like I know you on twitch
I think we’ve spoken in private about games before
limber anchor
Plus I’m glad they didn’t make a campaign after they butchered the storyline with bo3 lol
solid hinge
They could have taken all their mistakes, and make a new game with a better campaign
Easy
BUT WAIT
Br is selling so much... It would be sad to loose the opportunity
sacred junco
I'd love to see them make a fucking Venom Snake skin with Kiefer Sutherland
just as a double joke
solid hinge
Black Ops 4 ladies and gentleman
limber anchor
I think rdr2 will have br too lol
spring aurora
@solid hinge Yes we have, small world
limber anchor
That would be terrible tho lol the rockstar gunplay is shit haha
solid hinge
Red Dead Online will be loaded with mtx like gta Online
Just wait and you’ll see
takes screenshot lets see...
solid hinge
*even more money
limber anchor
@solid hinge i I know but all I’m gonna be playing is the pvp modes like I did on rdr1
solid hinge
I would check it out but I’m not gonna be on it that much
limber anchor
I kinda hope it’s lowkey ass because bfv comes like 2 days after it’s supposed to launch according to rumors lol
midnight nimbus
BO4 is 60Hz now and has really good movement
but terrible weapon balance
but it's fun
limber anchor
And I already have Bo4 rdr2 then rdr online lol
spring aurora
MP black ops is 60hz, blackout is still bad
midnight nimbus
> implying that BR can be good
solid hinge
Black ops 4 has no balancing team at all
spring aurora
Well a netcode can surely be better than what Blackout offers.
midnight nimbus
BO4 shotguns, sniper rifles, and the one revolver are like the only viable weapons
solid hinge
And you think BO4 can just go with that? Like we fixed it lol
Things like the 9 bang and Ajax don’t work well for bo4
limber anchor
@solid hinge it’s still better than bf4 at launch at least lol
midnight nimbus
SMGs are just brokenly terrible
midnight nimbus
ARs are bad, but not useless-level bad
limber anchor
@solid hinge people need shit to blame there deaths on lol
solid hinge
Still launched with 20 hz for all modes though @limber anchor
Well you want quality, no?
Oh the saug smg is annoying to fight against
limber anchor
@solid hinge I mean the game still feels the same too me so I couldn’t care less about the 20hz
I’m really terrible at noticing things like that anyway
@solid hinge yea ikr
solid hinge
What about zombies easter eggs not working?
spring aurora
I notice bad netcode pretty quickly. I can see the low tickrate in COD just watching streams. The deaths are delayed like a second.
solid hinge
Im sorry the zombies easter eggs thing make me mad*
limber anchor
@solid hinge well yea that was terrible but at least they fixed it pretty quick
@solid hinge except for classified I think
limber anchor
@solid hinge it’s activision what do you expect they are always misleading
solid hinge
I mean which company should I hate
Always because somehow they get away with it
Is it ea or activision or Ubisoft or some other shady company
Activision
Who do I hate on now?
Nvm ubisoft is just lazy
Both ubi and activision
I was gonna say ea but wait
limber anchor
I remember when WW2 came out and they said there’d be no weapons in supply drops then like 2 months after launch they did and nobody cared lol
solid hinge
Look at world at war dlcs
Look at their price
I mean they still cost!
I thought ea was bad but now I’m reconsidering
limber anchor
@solid hinge all cod dlcs stay the same price for some reason lol
spring aurora
The fact that COD is doing paid dlc maps again is going against what almost everyone else is doing. Splitting the player base is never good as we saw with prior BF titles.
solid hinge
Even the game is free for xbox (bf1)
limber anchor
@solid hinge remember BF2
solid hinge
Thats my point Lemmy
Oh yeah battlefield is premium free this year
Probably the best change for the game
Yeah
limber anchor
They just released a new Herero after 11 months lol
limber anchor
All because some ass couldn’t get darth Vader unlocked lol
solid hinge
Oh my god I think people still hate ea for battlefront 2
Uhh because it required a lot of games to earn
Making it pay to win
Like the salt on ea has not 100% died for that
Yeah
And yes I don’t agree with ea at all there
And that still hurts them
limber anchor
@solid hinge I still play it too this day but they really fucked over the player base lol
solid hinge
Pay to win is never the way to go
But activision just gets away with it
Every. Single. Time
Didn’t they remove it though completely
solid hinge
coughs mass effect
Yeah I think ea has been downvoted many times as one of the worst companies
coughs dead space
limber anchor
@solid hinge it took the 3 months and all the dlc got pushed back until very recently lol
spring aurora
Dead space, Titanfall 2 and quite a few others EA technically have their hands on have been really good games.
solid hinge
What Ubi is doing is making a lot of "noise"
limber anchor
That p2w shit happened last year and they just now released a new character lol
solid hinge
Titanfall 2 was good
spring aurora
They still screw people with some games though for sure.
limber anchor
Titanfall 2 was really good
sacred junco
"Titanfall 2 didn't just die it was MURDERED (BY EA)"
limber anchor
It just released at the wrong time lol
spring aurora
More or less it is confirmed. We can guess it will be the other Respawn title next year
solid hinge
Nice.
limber anchor
Bf was close too it was about to get murdered by bo4 and rdr2
solid hinge
I hope is as good (or even better) as Titanfall 2
spring aurora
Titanfall 2 is still one of the better games Ive played. I love that game.
solid hinge
Yeah but EA saw that
Titanfall 2 was a great game
Love it so much
Ea: we aint loosing you yet, battlefield
limber anchor
@solid hinge they already dug a few inches of bfv grave
solid hinge
And thankfully battlefield 5 escaped a bad time releasing between two juggernauts which is red dead 2 and cod bo4
The game still got potential
spring aurora
Just be glad we arent getting BF1 gunplay again.
limber anchor
With all the controversy around it will definitely be a disappointment in terms of sales for them
sacred junco
i still like BF1s gunplay. But I won't be going thru that fight again
solid hinge
And I don’t think battlefield v is gonna fail at all
I would have cared less about that
I mean the trailer was bad honestly
limber anchor
@solid hinge it won’t fail but it will definitely fall short of expectations
solid hinge
If anything since they did push it back and have been transparent about the changes being made before release it will sell millions of copies
But Beta was different from disabled russian muslim soldier with robotic leg
The only thing bad about battlefield 5 was that first trailer but everything else they’ve shown has been pretty interesting so far
sacred junco
Russian Muslim is unironically not that unlikely
spring aurora
Trailer was what it was really. Didnt sell the game, but I knew alpha/beta was coming so I waited for that to make a real assessment.
pseudo saffron
BFV is so much better than bf1. People always gonna hate on something
solid hinge
Just like Advanced Warfare live action trailer
spring aurora
The MP maps trailer was a better trailer than the initial launch trailer.
solid hinge
Didn’t represent battlefield and didn’t represent the game in general
limber anchor
And people forget what EA did to visceral DICE doesn’t have unlimited passes
They are lucky bf2 sold well despite everything
solid hinge
Bf 2 looked promising
I was hyped
To be honest
If anything dice has been drawing people back into battlefield v with their recent reveals about the game for the past few weeks
pseudo saffron
If the only bad thing people have to say about the game is the presence of women and a profanity filter well thats a great thing imo. Better than the loot box fiasco if you ask me
limber anchor
If bf2 flopped and then all the shit that happened with bfv man it would be bad news for dice
solid hinge
Agree with Mr. Flexxster
limber anchor
@pseudo saffron you don’t understand how much that hurt the game in other people eyes
solid hinge
Like when I went to the comments section for the new maps trailer for battlefield v the comments were better and when someone did make a hate comment I saw people responding by defending battlefield v
spring aurora
Yeah, i didnt care about any of those weird complaints about bf5. I was more worried about gunplay being better. I got that so Im honestly happy.
solid hinge
I just care about gameplay
limber anchor
I don’t care either but you can’t say that it didn’t damage the game
pseudo saffron
Eh, i doubt real battlefield players ever cared if the game was historically accurate... people will rage and cry to follow the trend but at the end of the day theyll still buy the game
spring aurora
Well one thing we can be sure of, graphics and netcode in current BF games are not an issue. That seems to be nailed down now. Now looks like gunplay is back where it should be also.
solid hinge
It did initially but things have been better since their new marketing strategy is better by reveling important information about battlefield v
Especially after the head executive Patrick Söderlund left the company for making those comments things got a lot better for dice
limber anchor
@pseudo saffron but how many “real” battlefield players are there we won’t know until we hear about the numbers
Bf1 sold well because it was a perfect storm for them the game looked great and the trailers got everybody hyped and IW had a ton of hate
spring aurora
Yeah, BF1 rode a perfect wave of sales really.
storm gulch
You think World War 3 is the move?
solid hinge
Ok but did you know infinite warfare still sold really well for all the hate it got
It was one of the best selling games of 2016
storm gulch
MW remastered saved it
limber anchor
@storm gulch lol hell no
storm gulch
Why not? @limber anchor
spring aurora
COD games will always print money. Just a given
limber anchor
@storm gulch I mean honestly it’s a worse bf4 do people really wanna play it lol
spring aurora
Too many people dont read into stuff in the background that activision does etc. They just see COD and pick up the game each year.
solid hinge
So it’s no different that battlefield a well known franchise can probably sell the same amount as infinite warfare at least or even more than 12.69 million copies
limber anchor
@solid hinge but it was still a flop in terms of what they usually sell
solid hinge
I don’t think so
Battlefield has never sold well when it comes to cod usually
What about R6S censoring a mature game?
I find it odd
Cod sells because of its name, just like apple
storm gulch
Idk, I'm just hearing it has good potential and a lot of people saying it brings back that classic BF feeling. Since EA isn't doing much on updating the servers and mechanics on BF4 or 3.
limber anchor
@solid hinge the only bf the even competed with cod was bf3 and it was still behind
spring aurora
@solid hinge Pretty much honestly. New year comes around, they see new COD title and they buy it up. It has a HUGE casual following.
solid hinge
Ok well cod was always ahead of battlefield that’s not news
Cod has more appeal than battlefield games
Cod is pretty casual
Cod just draws more people
Is fast
midnight nimbus
the casual buzzword man
solid hinge
Is simple
compact oxide
You can't say casual doesn't fit COD though
solid hinge
Whenever someone brings up how battlefield can’t outsell cod it’s not news and never will be
limber anchor
@solid hinge that’s my point tho bf1 was pretty casual so it sold well idk if bfv will get close to those sales
midnight nimbus
casual is a mentality
storm gulch
Since it's casual and fast, yet competitive at times. People don't want to worry about the recoil or rpms on guns and spread on actual weapons.
solid hinge
Because cod has a bigger appeal to people than battlefield
Meanwhile bf (not criticizing in a bad way*) has 4 classes without vehicles in which each one has a task and different guns...
midnight nimbus
mechanics aren't really inherently casual
spring aurora
Yeah, casual gets thrown around alot, but when it comes to COD, it does fit atleast to some extent. I know people who really arent gamers, but they buy up COD every year cause it just seems like the thing to do. Its like the only game they buy.
compact oxide
Easy to jump in and out, easy to play
limber anchor
Bf1 was the most casual bf I’ve ever played lol
solid hinge
Well battlefield 1 had a lot of hype going in and it sold well initially but did not retain a player base
Bo4: choose somebody to run and gun
It lost people really really quickly on battlefield 1 because of many changes people didn’t like
storm gulch
I see how ppl get mad when others camp in CoD but don't mind it in BF
limber anchor
@solid hinge exactly bfv will probably sell less and it has the same amount of content will it retain its playerbase ?
solid hinge
This is why I say never go into a game with too much hype and battlefield 1 is a good example of that
Sorry that was me as Support with the chauchat in spawn @storm gulch
limber anchor
Until February or March
storm gulch
Lol, bro No Man's Sky is a perfect example
solid hinge
@limber anchor it will sell less for sure but it will probably maintain a healthy enough player count
midnight nimbus
lack of content isn't a big deal, it's the lack of good content that's a problem
CS:GO has like
no content
what it has is good
solid hinge
Nah Cs is gooood
spring aurora
Having no more pay wall for maps will only help atleast. Thats a good start to helping overall.
solid hinge
Battlefield 1 still has a very healthy player count playing each day so battlefield v will be no different to that
midnight nimbus
premium should've been kept, all maps should be free
solid hinge
Is bf4 going well...?
midnight nimbus
there's plenty of features you can add to premium without locking maps behind it
solid hinge
It will develop a healthy enough player base to sustain it
fathom pebble
Well thast not a thing to worry now. BF5 wont have premium or DLC's anyways 
limber anchor
@spring aurora but remember that’s the problem with the live service less content overall because they aren’t forced to give you things that you didn’t pay for
solid hinge
@midnight nimbus disagree free dlc is the way to go and mtx should be the only the cosmetics
spring aurora
BF4 had around 9k peak on pc and ps4 today apparently. Not terrible.
midnight nimbus
BFV UI/UX/visibility is really indicative of how the game will go
solid hinge
As a guy who cant spend too much money in a game, Thanks EA!!(for Bf v having free content)
storm gulch
So what comes with the Deluxe edition?
solid hinge
Everyone should get free content no matter what it is
limber anchor
Free dlc is great but it all depends on how much money they get
spring aurora
The main thing for deluxe is the early access really. Rest is nothing I really was concerned with.
solid hinge
No one should be forced to drop an extra 50$ after paying 60$ for a game
limber anchor
But with season passes they have to deliver no matter what
midnight nimbus
i have no issues with locking guns behind a premium paywell if base game has enough guns
solid hinge
coughs Black ops pass in BO4 coughs
midnight nimbus
season passes don't require them to deliver good content
you can just spam out unbalanced garbage
solid hinge
Black ops pass has dlcs included
So yeah
Season passes can have some of the laziest content delivered
Like R6S?
@midnight nimbus why add them behind paywalls instead of making people grind for them
storm gulch
The Division?
limber anchor
@solid hinge there’s is scummy too but there doing free dlc too they’re trying to find a balance but they definitely won’t do any season passes after bo4
midnight nimbus
premium gets dev studios the necessary revenue
solid hinge
Ok but cosmetics can also get the developers the revenue needed for future dlc
As i said, Activision always gets away with it
storm gulch
Didn't the devs this year say "If you don't like the game, don't buy it" ?
limber anchor
@solid hinge they know the future is free dlc and all the backlash will make them stop
solid hinge
Ok but they still work in many games
I will say it again: Activision always gets away with it
spring aurora
I honestly didnt care about buying premium. I got a ton of playtime out of the games making it not a big expense. But I always did hate the player base suffering with maps splitting everyone up.
solid hinge
Also people will pay good money for cool looking skins @midnight nimbus
limber anchor
I didn’t buy bf1 season pass because I really didn’t care for it I just stayed on bf4 and hardline
storm gulch
Ppl still play Hardline?
midnight nimbus
people are likely to pay money for cool looking skins, not guaranteed
also BF is an entirely different setting
they can't do skins the same way R6S and fortnut do it
spring aurora
1400 on ps4, rest are pretty low
solid hinge
Ok but that doesn’t mean force people to pay more money after 60$
storm gulch
Lol, fortnut
spring aurora
for Hardline
midnight nimbus
there's only so many skins you can make while remaining in the WW2 setting
solid hinge
Epic jon wik skin!!!!
limber anchor
@solid hinge nah I been dropped hardline but I liked the game in short burst it wasn’t that bad
When they released premium for free hardline got really fun
solid hinge
@midnight nimbus actually there’s a bunch they can do with out going insane
Im offended by r6s
spring aurora
I enjoyed hardline, was a change of pace to BF4, not a replacement by any means. And once BF1 came out, I wish that game had Hardline gunplay, thats how bad I found BF1 to be in that department.
storm gulch
midnight nimbus
there's a lot of variability in WW2 skins, just not a not of significant things you can change
limber anchor
@solid hinge cod WW2 outfits were really cool but I doubt bf can do better in terms of cosmetics
solid hinge
More consumer friendly is something I’ll always take
midnight nimbus
you can only do so much with normal colors of cloth/metal/wood/whatever
storm gulch
Buy a female hook hand
midnight nimbus
don't mind cosmetic MTX, but the Premium model didn't need to be killed
just changed
spring aurora
Id buy a hook hand just to bother everyone who got made about it
solid hinge
If I have to sacrifice mtx cosmetics only for no premium I’m all for it
midnight nimbus
or it would be fine if DLC guns and aesthetics were ridiculously grindy to get
spring aurora
mad*
limber anchor
@storm gulch I’m not gonna lie I was planning to make a badass character with that stuff but I guess they got rid of it
midnight nimbus
but DLC maps should be free for everyone
storm gulch
They did? Oh wow lol
solid hinge
Everything should be free to everyone
limber anchor
@storm gulch they said they toned it down
solid hinge
I don’t think we should force people to spend more money after dropping 60$
storm gulch
I will never be able to have that satisfaction of killing an actual nazi with the patches and flags tho 😥
spring aurora
As long as maps are free, thats the main thing I want. If they want to charge for more "premium" skins or something, so be it, dont have to buy them, nor does it split player base.
solid hinge
If they want to spend money after the 60$ they can if they don’t they still get to enjoy the game for what it is and everything after it
storm gulch
I mean, ig not many would want to play a soldier having the nazi patch
limber anchor
Bf1 was horrible in terms of weapon variety I’m glad they dropped the variants
storm gulch
It was hard to have a variety considering it was WWI no?
midnight nimbus
if the extra $60 for Premium is worthwhile, then charge for Premium
midnight nimbus
@limber anchor you know BFV specialization trees are basically the same thing as variants, right?
muh progreshun
solid hinge
@midnight nimbus all in all fuck premium and hope to never see it return
Keeping this model is better for everyone
And better, a lot better for me 
limber anchor
@midnight nimbus but they won’t try to pass 4 guns and add variants that barely change anything and pass it of as 8 guns lol
storm gulch
We'll see, hopefully they don't turn their heads to massive microtransactions that impact gameplay
solid hinge
Yes I would never want people to be forced to pay more money after spending 60$
I hope that doesnt happen
@storm gulch they’ve already confirmed there’s no pay to win in battlefield v so I doubt it
midnight nimbus
@limber anchor BF1 variants change a lot
storm gulch
I know, I meant in the future if this year doesn't live up to their revenue expectations
spring aurora
I think BF2 really made it so any sort of pay to win is not gonna happen in BF5.
spring aurora
BF4 AR160 was so good. Loved that gun
midnight nimbus
BFV specialization trees largely end up giving you two different variants
well, eight by release, but not all upgrades are performance changing to any meaningful degree
limber anchor
@midnight nimbus come on now really if someone bought the game at launch and saw all of bf4 guns you get with the game and then they buy bf1 base and see that you know how disappointing that is lol
spring aurora
To be fair, there really wasnt any "bad" guns in BF4. I got master tags in pretty much everything but snipers and shotguns. Really found some solid guns I never would have used normally.
midnight nimbus
the illusion of choice man
there's a ton of bad guns in BF4
if you play on console, all the 700 RPM guns are bad guns compared to AK-12
storm gulch
There was this one OP gun in BF4 tho, well not OP but really good and easy
The mtar I think?
midnight nimbus
carbines are just bad assault rifles
spring aurora
I played on ps4. Had master tags on all lmgs, ars, carbines and smgs. I found some really good guns I thought were awful at first.
limber anchor
@midnight nimbus bf1 you basically had 3 smg and a two shotgunning the assault class is that really Better
midnight nimbus
better than BF4, yea
limber anchor
The ace 23 was by far the best gun
storm gulch
limber anchor
@midnight nimbus well your entitled to your opinion but I don’t agree
midnight nimbus
L85 = flat performance upgrade over ACE 23 and M416
the number of choices you see != the number of viable choices that exist
spring aurora
I was all about the AR160 usually. Mostly for open maps cause the accuracy was really good. AUG was also good.
hollow mulch
We talking about bf4 assault rifles?
midnight nimbus
AK-12 is more accurate and kills in the same amount of time on console
compared to AUG and AR-160
hollow mulch
My favorite bf game honestly
storm gulch
I think lol
midnight nimbus
bc frostbite math
spring aurora
L85 was amazing in BF3. I used that gun pretty much exclusively.
solid hinge
Bf 4 best bf
storm gulch
BFBC2 wasn't!?
midnight nimbus
BF3 best bf
solid hinge
Company 2 nvm
midnight nimbus
objectively worse than BF4, way more fun
hollow mulch
Objectively speaking bfbc2 is great, but I've never played it
limber anchor
Bf3 I was all about the m4a1 and the scar l
spring aurora
I liked BF4 the most, put the most time into it by far. But BF3 and BC2 were also awesome.
hollow mulch
Bf4 was my first battlefield
midnight nimbus
BFBC2 is objectively terrible, but really fun
terrible design choices layered upon terrible design choices
solid hinge
yeah it confuses me when people say it's the best bf game
and then praise 1942 and bf2
What do you think about Bf Hardline campaign?
Like dude
midnight nimbus
BF2 = a terrible game with really good maps
hollow mulch
shhh we dont talk about hardline
spring aurora
I had some of the most fun playing BC2 though. It was far from perfect though.
solid hinge
You know what? Battlefield campaigns in general
limber anchor
I liked bfbc2 because rush was so damn good
midnight nimbus
Hardline alone would've been good
spring aurora
I liked Hardline in general. I played it to max level, played all the dlcs, beat the campaign etc.
midnight nimbus
Hardline's only two flaws were marketing it under the BF name and god awful weapon balance
spring aurora
I will say Hardlines DLC got better and better. The maps became much more interesting and much bigger.
limber anchor
I liked the money system in bfh
hollow mulch
Too bad it's dead now
limber anchor
Imo it was better than bf1 lol
hollow mulch
I remember when I first played bf4 I was a massive US marine fanboy
midnight nimbus
Hardline maps were really good
amber notch
^
spring aurora
Yeah, I enjoyed Hardline more than BF1 honestly.
hollow mulch
US equipment all the way
solid hinge
You really hate bf1, dont you @limber anchor?
amber notch
I didn’t like that fact you could cheese the money
midnight nimbus
BF1's skillcannons are incredibly fun
limber anchor
@solid hinge I definitely didn’t like it as much ass other battlefields
hollow mulch
M16a4 with acog scope, angled grip and hardened barrel was my most used rifle for a long while lol.
amber notch
Yikes
hollow mulch
Somehow I made it work
limber anchor
Bf1 is a game that after bfv comes out I’ll probably never play it again
amber notch
laughs in gold AK47, Gold m416 and gold m16a3
spring aurora
I loved the car conquest in Hardline. I would do the breaching charges on the road and blow everyone up who drove by.
I was that guy
midnight nimbus
BFH had some really fun guns
storm gulch
Same, BF1 is being deleted
hollow mulch
Nowadays I mostly just fly a lot
midnight nimbus
BFH AKM is one of the most fun guns to use in the series
limber anchor
I loved the vector I wish it was in more battlefield games
hollow mulch
I got stupidly good at dogfighting in bf4 and bf1
solid hinge
Remember how op the vector was in hardline
hollow mulch
Knocking planes and helis out of the sky left and right
midnight nimbus
BF3 gripbar M16A3, BFH gripbar AKM, BF1 AL8 .35, BF4 gripbar RPK, BF1 Ribey Factory
most fun guns
spring aurora
Thats the main reason I played so much BF4. I could use the jets with ease. Was rare to get beat in dog fights.
solid hinge
Wait so what was the gameplay even like in bfh
hollow mulch
Funny thing about bf4 jets. The f35 seems to handle a little differently then the others
limber anchor
What is the overall consensus of the best gun in bf1?
spring aurora
I made it to top like 10 on ps4 with attack jets. Was quite proud of that.
hollow mulch
Something that a ton of people seem to not mention
midnight nimbus
if you used the good guns, BFH played a lot like BF3 infy gameplay
storm gulch
I'm not going to lie, I never learned how to fly jets or helis, been playing BF since BC2
midnight nimbus
bc the attachments were so much stronger than BF4 attachments
hollow mulch
^
solid hinge
I learned and realized everyone uses 3rd person view
so you need to use that and it's easier
midnight nimbus
BF4 has attachment metas, but BF3 has one attachment meta
and BFH was the same way
hollow mulch
It really depends
Honestly the BAR is the best all around gun
Storm variant at least
limber anchor
@solid hinge I only used the MP28 until recently because I didn’t have much options
storm gulch
I see, thanks for the tip. Maybe in BF6 or whatever comes after I'll try
spring aurora
I used 3rd person flying to keep track jets, and used 1st to strafe or shoot usually.
hollow mulch
It's literally an assault rifle
limber anchor
@solid hinge 15 for me lol
solid hinge
As Krispy said, Bar best gun
midnight nimbus
Burton LMR >>>> BAR
compact oxide
@solid hinge that gun makes me mad 
midnight nimbus
Burton LMR is borderline broken
compact oxide
Bar is good tho
solid hinge
Haha i dont use it note to my mind:dont mention you love SMG
midnight nimbus
if you can deal with the FSRM and capacity, the Burton is just ridiculously good in almost every scenario
compact oxide
Burton just needs far less soldier damage with flame rounds
hollow mulch
Hellriegel if I'm feeling especially like an asshole
midnight nimbus
Burton is terrible with incendiary rounds
solid hinge
you mean BFV?
compact oxide
It's all about the RSC SMG 
midnight nimbus
bad at everything but farming shitters
solid hinge
I honestly think the Hellriegel should be an LMG
That's what the photo evidence shows
midnight nimbus
if you want big capacity, just use SMG08
hollow mulch
Doesnt fire rifle rounds tho
solid hinge
I am just bad with SMG and Hellriegel
midnight nimbus
because it's actually good with bursts
storm gulch
Use the Volkumstrouger, Idk how to spell it
spring aurora
I just unlocked smg08 when I was pretty much done playing BF1. So only used it a little bit really. Seemed solid though.
solid hinge
Mp and ribeyrolles
limber anchor
Also is rush confirmed not to be in bfv
spring aurora
Ribey was really good. I liked that gun
midnight nimbus
Ribeyrolles is also nearly brokenly good
solid hinge
As a guy who cant play vehicles well, planes pisses me off
hollow mulch
If your one of those guys I've constantly farmed with the attack plane, I apologize
storm gulch
Lol, just always made a run for the flak cuz I kept getting bodied
solid hinge
LOl
midnight nimbus
nah, BFV has a few good weapons
spring aurora
Planes were really absurd when the dart variant fighter could nuke like 5+ people in one drop. Was silly.
midnight nimbus
but BFV weapons as a whole aren't great
hollow mulch
I'm sorry! XD
limber anchor
@solid hinge not until they add my pinging boi
midnight nimbus
all weapons are not objectively good
solid hinge
you can't just said few
midnight nimbus
trees are imbalanced as shit
solid hinge
you just know how to use them
midnight nimbus
Sten is a flat downgrade from MP40
hollow mulch
But it's nice to finally be able to kill infantry where as in bf4 stealth jets do piss all to ground units
midnight nimbus
only two ways to use BFV guns man
storm gulch
I got killed by a tree according to BF4 killcam
midnight nimbus
not hard to learn
solid hinge
you have to literally balance the weapons
and get used to them
Basically: git gud
i know weapons are good and bad
spring aurora
That was the main reason I didnt play Stealth jets. They were worthless killing ground targets, but were amazing at dog fighting @hollow mulch
hollow mulch
Stealth jets were great for anti air
midnight nimbus
BFV weapons are easy to get used to
there's a lot of objectively poor performing weapons tho
storm gulch
They really are
hollow mulch
Also with guided missile for supporting your armor as well
spring aurora
They were kinda boring, if you are decent with jets, you can knock out the other 2 jets with ease and then you kinda fly around waiting to shoot more jets or choppers.
solid hinge
cries in bad sniper
hollow mulch
I'm at the point where I have more kills in the F-35 then I do with my second most used gun
storm gulch
Those Attack Helis that were super OP in Shanghai 😤
hollow mulch
Sniping in bf4 is about the most useless thing you can do in bf4
solid hinge
Are the attack distances that the F 35s fly in realistic at all?
midnight nimbus
not playing assault or engineer in BF4 is useless
hollow mulch
Just grab a carbine already an ptfo
solid hinge
or are they really scrunched up
midnight nimbus
no @solid hinge
spring aurora
I had 13k kills in attack jets combined. My closest weapon was the SRAW.
solid hinge
But by how much?
hollow mulch
Oof
solid hinge
Over the horizon?
storm gulch
I don't remember playing Support in BF4 other than on that prison map
hollow mulch
I only have 2500 something stealth jet kills
hollow mulch
Lots of that were from Silk Road
spring aurora
I had 206 hours in attack jets
midnight nimbus
like an F-35 can shoot a jet down while physically being invisible
hollow mulch
A map with no mobile aa yet has air vehicles? Instant love
midnight nimbus
because you can't see it over the curvature of the earth
BF vehicles are toned way down compared to IRL
limber anchor
The mg4 and the aws were bae
solid hinge
I am just bad with vehicles, same as snipers
midnight nimbus
imagine if BF4 tanks can one hit kill you from 700m with the canister shot
hollow mulch
I never really figured out lmgs in bf4 that well
midnight nimbus
because a canister round has 23 pounds of 10mm tungsten balls
storm gulch
spring aurora
MG4 was my go to LMG. Was so good
limber anchor
@hollow mulch I loved them support was my favorite class
storm gulch
Was that the MG with a fast ADS?
midnight nimbus
spread and hrec were way too low for its damage and rate of fire
hollow mulch
I just equip a carbine or the 870 MCS
midnight nimbus
all LMGs in BF4 have the same ADS time
hollow mulch
Speaking of which, apparently 870 MCS is my most used gun at just above 3k kills
Thank you operation locker
storm gulch
It didn't feel like it, that PKP and LSAT felt like I was picking up Thors hammer
spring aurora
Needs more SRAW with most kills
If I didnt get master dog tags on all the other guns, I would have easily beat that with a gun.
hollow mulch
Also, has anybody here figured out TOW missiles yet?
limber anchor
@hollow mulch my most used shotgun was the dao 12 lol
hollow mulch
I recently did, and it's the BEST FUCKING FEELING IN THE WORLD
spring aurora
Ive shot down many choppers with tow missiles.
spring aurora
I miss the old SRAW days where that thing would loop around like instantly. Was so broken but so funny shooting down choppers left and right.
hollow mulch
So satisfying getting tow kills
spring aurora
Naval maps were great for stationary kills also
All that open air to steer into vehicles
hollow mulch
Yeh
midnight nimbus
the good old SRAW days when you could double SRAW people
shoot one straight up, reload, shoot another one straight
double hit
hollow mulch
Weren't lock on RPGs a thing back then?
spring aurora
@midnight nimbus You could triple SRAW on some maps. Was hilarious
midnight nimbus
don't recall