#battlefield-legacy-titles

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flat citrus
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@tight kettle

tight kettle
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Thanks homie

flat citrus
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np

pure veldt
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i just use dotnetperls any time i need anything syntax related

flat citrus
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its really good.

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great reviews. I do it after duolingo

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learning polish atm

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love the app

solid hinge
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Do they have assembly examples

flat citrus
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yup

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and itll tell you if you made a mistake

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kind of like a fill in the blank

tight kettle
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I just want a crash course majic

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Then when I do titorials I know what I'm looking at

flat citrus
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@tight kettle look up udemy

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thats a great app for crash course stuff

solid hinge
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what

tight kettle
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Jesus christ. Swyping is dangerous

flat citrus
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sorry im like an autodidact i love learning on my own

solid hinge
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lmao

flat citrus
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sorry bad links

solid hinge
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See the best way is to learn from experience

flat citrus
solid hinge
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That's how I learned

flat citrus
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^^^

solid hinge
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you make a little project as you go along in your crash course

flat citrus
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Trial and error yes

solid hinge
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and you start to incorporate new features

tight kettle
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Will do

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I'll start using unity

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Like majic

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But first I have to format

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Did everyone diesad

pure veldt
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im scouring the web for something to do

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even all discos are dead

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im just staring blankly

solid hinge
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disco was pretty dead when the 80s rolled out ngl

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Well technically it still existed it was just called something else

tight kettle
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That happens after a disco inferno

solid hinge
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literal disco demolition

tight kettle
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I tried bf4 today

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Didn't enjoy it anymore

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The guns feel bad

pure veldt
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yeh.. im enjoying the new bf1 maps and by new i mean not base game..

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then i tried to play bfront 2 and fking hated it

tight kettle
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Yeah me too

solid hinge
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the new ones are really good

pure veldt
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but i dont want to play more than enough to complete road to V and wear myself out

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which is like.. 2 games a week

tight kettle
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The maps, not starwars wall hack the game

solid hinge
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All i wanted was the paratrooper set

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for road to bfv

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and I got it lol

tight kettle
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It takes literally 1 operation to get the points sad

pure veldt
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they need to toss me the latest build so i can benchmark the 2070

solid hinge
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benchmark for what?

pure veldt
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i liked that frontlines mode.. it was really easy to PTO

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moar points

tight kettle
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It's amazing there are so many games

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Yet, nothing interests me.

pure veldt
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EA is throwing up specific servers each week to match new style

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objectives

tight kettle
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Explain please.

pure veldt
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like last week was frontlines so they pulled some servers and put up those in the browser

tight kettle
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Oh right

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I just play operations. Everything else seemed to end up empty

pure veldt
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frontlines is a super good mode.. its like conquest rush somethin rather

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choked like rush but conquest

tight kettle
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Are there 2 points?

solid hinge
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yeah

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Sometimes 3

tight kettle
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I'll have to check that out

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The 5 point conquest I don't enjoy much

solid hinge
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they should have just removed squads in bf1 and made it platoons of 12

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unrelated but

pure veldt
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its 5 right?

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i cant believe they never addressed that.. there's 32 person servers

tight kettle
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Squad size yes

pure veldt
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really.. fking.. why

tight kettle
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Yeah it's silly

pure veldt
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i mean make 30 player servers if you're going to do that

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30 and 60

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2 people end up leaving

tight kettle
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They probably thought fuck that one guy in particular

compact oxide
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What's the difference between frontlines and domination?

tight kettle
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I have to find that out. I have no idea

solid hinge
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Bf1 for some reason is lagging alot

pure veldt
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frontlines is 1 point only

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no backcapping

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actually loving this

flat citrus
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I'm back

pure veldt
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each point unlocks the next, if you get it taken you retreat, just a tug of war

flat citrus
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the 20xx series nvidia GPUS are hybrids

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id wait till next gen

pure veldt
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i grabbed one due to having a 970

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10xx you should not upgrade tho

flat citrus
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i have a 1070

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love it

pure veldt
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yea is good for 1080

flat citrus
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yeah the ray tracing marketing... ehhhhh no

solid hinge
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Oh god I think my PC is actually bad

flat citrus
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its hybrid raytracing tho i like how its in the right direction

solid hinge
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it needs more ram for bf1

flat citrus
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bf1 doesnt perform very well

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the frostbite engine is a cpu hogg

solid hinge
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^

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frostbite killed my computer

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it ran so badly

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just ended up playing on xbox because it was playable

tight kettle
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Runs fine for me luckily

torpid rivet
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I get like 22 fps

solid hinge
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i got like 4

tiny cave
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consoles luckily don't have framedrops like some PCs

solid hinge
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yeah

restive talon
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@tiny cave bf4 on ps3 plz

tiny cave
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let's not talk about shanghai tower... @restive talon

solid hinge
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????

tiny cave
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the frames would just drop so hard. The game basically became "Framedrops 4: Levelution Edition"

hoary condor
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lol

amber notch
hoary condor
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party time πŸ˜ƒ

amber notch
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On xbox 360 it was bad

hoary condor
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got on battlefield this morning... got a sexy triple ha

amber notch
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really bad

hoary condor
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5:30am squid can still shoot

amber notch
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Xbox One was fine but 360 it was not fun

solid hinge
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i got on battlefield this afternoon

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had time to kill

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unlocked the chauchat

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went like 39-24

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very situational that gun

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i can play aggressive with it though

quartz ivy
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man the recent news is such a huge let down, neither of my friends are getting bfV Royale us not coming till next year

solid hinge
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royale not till 2019?

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if so

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i dont care

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never would of played it

wary mason
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March 2019

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Im kinda hyped for it shame that we gotta wait until march GWqlabsSweats

plucky cobalt
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not much of a BR fan so I don't care

wary mason
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But its not that far away

solid hinge
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march

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do we know what exact date

compact oxide
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March 31st harmfulKAPPA

solid hinge
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IS CAVALRY

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in battlefield 5

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no

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damn i was hoping it would be march 15th

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my birthday

vague flame
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But didn't you just say that you don't care?

sinful compass
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are BF1 servers bugged?I don't see the server names,just numbers

quartz ivy
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@solid hinge It makes sense that people dont like royale, usually pretty common if ur bad at the game, i rather be a winning squad of 4 than winning another round of pointless conquest

solid hinge
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why no cavalry in bf5

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this game doesnt feel or look like ww 2

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ata ll

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wtf

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i thought ww2 they still didnt have camo uniforms

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and shit

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i thought ww2 look like battlefield 1

sullen mist
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ww2 had Camouflage uniforms

hoary condor
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it's different stages and countries

solid hinge
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and the game is so FUCKING BRIGHT

hoary condor
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not didn't really.. it was usually a plain green/grey/black etc

solid hinge
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AND COLOURFUL

hoary condor
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then they would chuck twigs/sticks/leafs etc over themselves to hide

solid hinge
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ya

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when i saw the trailer

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i thought it was lik

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vietnam war

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when i found out it was ww2 i was like no its not

hoary condor
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the trailer looked to be in France...

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it looked like France

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lol

solid hinge
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the one where the tank goes through the building

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and claw girl

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the first one

hoary condor
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yeah how on earth does that look like Vietnam lol

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get your eyes tested Kappa

solid hinge
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i show you

hoary condor
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ok dude

solid hinge
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ok

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nvm

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i imagined it very differtently

hoary condor
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haha

solid hinge
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in my head

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i saw jungle everywhere

hoary condor
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ha no

solid hinge
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omg can u throw back grenades

hoary condor
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there are a lot of trees

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yeah

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which is soo bloody handy

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usually i'm in a trench and the nade comes over.. i have to jump out of the trench and usually get shot

solid hinge
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i wish they focused on realism

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like make respawn tiemrs long

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no minimap no spotting

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make ammo important

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make teamplay very impoortant

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like going around iwht ur squad and using strategy

hoary condor
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i feel BR will be like that

solid hinge
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they r kinda doing something when now u can only revive squad members

hoary condor
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X amount of players on 4 man teams..

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that's gonna be a real strat i think

solid hinge
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how does the bR work

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is there weapons and ammo throughout the map

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like apart from guns and nades what else can u pick up

hoary condor
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not too sure, i know they have vehicles

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could get crates dropped in at random bits of the map? then all fight for it?

solid hinge
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am hyped for it

hoary condor
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same here πŸ˜ƒ

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payday today, so pre-ordering the deluxe when i get home

solid hinge
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when does it come out

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i dont understand pre order vs buying it when it comes out

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do you get it earlier?

hoary condor
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9th for Pc 15th for deluxe 20th for standard

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if you pre-order

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actual copy of the disk is 20th Nov

solid hinge
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is it cheaper on the 20th

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i want deluxe

hoary condor
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i'm getting it for sure

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pre-ordering that and rdr2

solid hinge
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wait

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when does the game actually come out

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and is it cheaper buying it then

hoary condor
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20th Nov

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it won't be cheaper on the day

compact oxide
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I'm gonna get deluxe (already preordered) and also get a month of premiere for the full 11 days

hoary condor
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price will stay the same

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nice πŸ˜ƒ

compact oxide
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Apparently if you go standard and get a month it's the same price as just deluxe, but then I'd miss out on skins πŸ˜›

hoary condor
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i'm getting deluxe for the early access lol

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i'm never too fussed with skins tbh

solid hinge
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jesus im actually gonna have to turn down saturation on my monitor to play this game

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im just watching yt vids on it and its so bright

hoary condor
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norway map isn't lol

solid hinge
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what is that

sullen mist
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Arctic Fjord

solid hinge
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no dude the snow one is so bright

compact oxide
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Norway snow map was bright AF

solid hinge
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the guy looked out the window and its blinding

hoary condor
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haha

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beta?

solid hinge
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ya

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i want it darker cuz it is ww2

hoary condor
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wait for the full game

solid hinge
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yes

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ur right

hoary condor
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ww2 wasn't always dark lol

compact oxide
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Different maps will be different

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Rotterdam was medium

hoary condor
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different maps, different weather

compact oxide
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^

hoary condor
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Rotterdam could rain, thunder, fog, sunny etc

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like the weather system they have implemented in BF1, the sand storms etc.. not going to get that in the french fields lol

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maybe at the beach... english channel can be windy lol

compact oxide
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Most people hated the weather in BF1

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I didn't mind it on most maps

hoary condor
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i didn't mind it.. it's part of the weather in them regions

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it's never going to be perfect weather all the time, you want the realism of weather

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to make engaging in fire fights harder-easier to win

compact oxide
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I love it on Sinai for crossing teh open spaces

hoary condor
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yeah it works in favour

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sometimes it's a pain.. but the only time the weather is bad is if you are a scout scout

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or a pilot but usually you can dive bomb down

solid hinge
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did you try vehicles

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in the beta

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apparently the planes are like boats in the sky

hoary condor
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but they would of listened to the feedback and changed/enhanced it

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and i'm talking about planes in the fog on bf1 lol

compact oxide
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Vehicles were toned down a lot in the beta

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Still saw a lot of the pro tankers/pilots going large numbers but it was more difficult

hoary condor
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nobody can really go off the beta tbh

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thats the whole reason for the BETA.... learn from the feedback and make changes

solid hinge
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its a weird

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style

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imo

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its like wanting to be a realistic war

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sim

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but its not fully there

hoary condor
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it can never be there...

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i feel like what they have done so far, looks incredible

solid hinge
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what

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like making it realistic

compact oxide
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Battlefield has always wanted to have elements of realism but it's not a real war sim.

hoary condor
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Yeah, the sounds, the vehicles/weapons/uniform based around the era of the soliders.

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but they are not going for a real war sim

solid hinge
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its gender confused

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as long as there is communication

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i am happy

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thats why i hate bf1 there is zero communication

hoary condor
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between online players?

solid hinge
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yeah

hoary condor
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yeah that annoys me, but i play solo anyway

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and call commands through the game menu

solid hinge
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same

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but i would love to just

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as a squad

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stick together

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use voice chat

hoary condor
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would be awesome

solid hinge
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and i think thats what EA want

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cuz only reviving squad members

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and its more realistic that way

compact oxide
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I play with a clan for that squad play, but otherwise I just solo it

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Occasionally I'll get orders and tell peeps where to go and they actually follow but mostly it's eh

solid hinge
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and because battlefield is a mix between the two sides you get confusion on whether to play as a squad and use strats or just play

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but yeah clans r

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important if you wanna do that

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the platoons menu

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i havent used that it wont let me search for platoons

hoary condor
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it is in beta though i think

solid hinge
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oh ok

hoary condor
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i'm so tired.... want to go home and play bf1

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got a quiick game in before work this morning.. but not enough

sullen mist
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I wanna play rdr2 when I get back home from campus, but I also want to work on finishing off that road to Battlefield V thing so that I can get the token after this week's gun skins

compact oxide
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R2BFV should be just a couple of games

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So why not both? 🀷

hoary condor
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yeah this weekend i need to complete road2bfv

sullen mist
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Because depending on how large rdr2's intro is, I might pull off an all nighter in place of the R2BfV assignments notlikethis

frozen sparrow
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Isn't RDR2 releasing tomorrow, not today?

hoary condor
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talking to you Dragory πŸ˜‰

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it's tomorrow the release

solid hinge
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I really hope they do well with sales

hoary condor
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can' t see how battlefield won't tbh

umbral anvil
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how many hours on bf1 do you guys?

solid hinge
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I just bought it 2 weeks ago tbh

umbral anvil
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can someoen tell me what this zoning for sniper is about

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should i leave it on 75m or raise it up?

solid hinge
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I don’t enjoy bf1 to be honest

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But with battlefield v it seems as though dice learned their mistakes with battlefield 1 for the most part

teal sand
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Indeed they did

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By my point of view, BF1 was fun and I enjoy it.

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This is the first WW1 game I have play and I enjoy the experience that DICE has gave us.

sullen mist
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Yeah, bfV seems to address alot of issues people had with bf1, I personally liked bf1 at first due to its gritty atmosphere and the nice looking bolt actions, but I felt like that excitement worn down sooner than usual

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And BfV for me was exciting since me and my friends actually got to play in a squad more tactically than in bf1 and dare I say even bf4. It felt like we were playing bf3 again, I still have gripes with the tank spawn system though

plucky cobalt
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I really enjoy BF1 at the moment, but I'm new to the the game so what do I know πŸ˜ƒ

brittle imp
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Nov 9 boyos

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And we shall finally see the full game

minor gale
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Hyped

solid hinge
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Yeah I can’t wait for battlefield v and I’m hoping it keeps my interest longer than battlefield 1 did

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is it true bf5 will have no dlc

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or all dlc will be free

minor gale
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I would say there will be cosmetic lootboxes that you can buy via micro transactions

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Just a guess

solid hinge
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ive seen it

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why is vehicle cosmetics so special

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People like waifus on the sides of their tank

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yes imo skins need more work

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in bf1 they hold zero value

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either make skins more valuable or have more customisation to be special

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I mean they're right

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And skins are just that, skins

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no

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many games

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skins r a core part of the game

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cs:go

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tf2

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they are adding customisation to skins in bf5 i know that

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or weapons

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skins or weapons idk

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i hate teh weapon customisation

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instead of attachments u just have a skill tree which magically upgrades stuff

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or?

minor gale
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@oblique parcel airlifts sounds like sth lootbox

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That you can get through playing which will contain cosmetics

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20 Weekly Items with Airlift: Receive vital supplies with 20 weekly Airlifts, each containing one customization item.

solid hinge
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whats wrong with lootboxes

pallid sparrow
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Lol

minor gale
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I am not against them as long they don’t give you infame advantages

solid hinge
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yes you are right

minor gale
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If they are cosmetics Only like overmatch I am 100% fine with it

solid hinge
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and like battlefield 1

pallid sparrow
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@minor gale buddy you should hope the worst

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Remember the last battlefront lol

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Remember FIFA ultimate xD

minor gale
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I dunno

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I just guess

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@pallid sparrow the thing is EA and every other company that goes to a live service needs to make money without DLCs so one of the only way is to add lootboxes

solid hinge
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is the road2bfv only giving you 2 soldeir set tokens and 2 skins?

pallid sparrow
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That's it@minor gale

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And a important thing more

minor gale
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But you can do it right or wrong

pallid sparrow
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The delay of the release day

minor gale
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And swbf2 did it wrong

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I would 100% support purchasable lootboxes for cosmetics

pallid sparrow
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About cod iiii and red red redemption

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They invested lot of money on marketing to say a release day and ea will lose lot of money delaying the release day

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Ea will try to recover that money with loot boxes for sure

solid hinge
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will bfv get cheaper a few days after release?

minor gale
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Well you can just speculate why they delayed it

compact oxide
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That or very expensive skins

minor gale
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@solid hinge doubt

compact oxide
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@solid hinge I don't see that happening unless it's a flop

pallid sparrow
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@minor gale really?

solid hinge
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what about preorder vs after release

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is it really the same price

minor gale
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The game will still cost 60€

pallid sparrow
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@minor gale you only need to see the clues

solid hinge
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whats the point of pre-ordering

minor gale
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I see them

pallid sparrow
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I am not Einstein to say that

minor gale
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Obviously rdr2 and cod are there

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But officially they take the time to polish the game which sounds good and reliable

pallid sparrow
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Yes ofc

minor gale
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And I support that

pallid sparrow
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Ea can say whatever

solid hinge
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r u being serious that preorder is 60 and after release date it will still be 60

minor gale
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Yep

solid hinge
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wtf

pallid sparrow
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Ea would never say that they did it because cod and rdr2

solid hinge
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I mean that’s any game

minor gale
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Preorder gives you the bonuses

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Play earlier

solid hinge
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60$ for preorder

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60$ on release

minor gale
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Beta access

solid hinge
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ya but they r literally saying

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buy our game without looking how it is

wary mason
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Never seen a game that goes on sale on a release date

minor gale
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^

solid hinge
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Preorder only means you’re buying the game before it come out

compact oxide
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@solid hinge Yes that's what preordering is

solid hinge
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ok

pallid sparrow
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@wary mason yes cod and rdr2 for example

minor gale
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I just preorder games if I am 100% sure I play them for a long term

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Got baited too often

solid hinge
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Like why would you expect a game to go on sale on release

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no

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im saying

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That’s why you don’t preorder

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preorder would be more expensive

pallid sparrow
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I lost 3€ preordering bf v

solid hinge
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Because you never know if you’ll play it in the long term

compact oxide
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You get bonuses because you're taking a risk it'll be a No Mans Sky

minor gale
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People say dont preorder anymore and news are saying bf v has bad pre orders so it looks like a flop

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People just hear what they want to hear

solid hinge
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Yeah if you preorder deluxe edition it’s more expensive but standard edition is usually 60$

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everyone is gonna buy it anyway

compact oxide
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NMS is a huge part of why preorders are frowned upon now

solid hinge
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There’s a reason why low preorders don’t determine a game doing well or not

pallid sparrow
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People learnt about preorders for so long

solid hinge
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Because there isn’t any reasons to preorder today

pallid sparrow
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I ate lot of downgrades for example preordering years ago

solid hinge
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Back then you’d preorder if you wanted to reserve a copy because digital downloads weren’t widespread

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But today just download your games

covert reef
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yeah

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just wait till its out and buy it for cheaepr

pallid sparrow
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And I only preordered bf v because I saw it for 45€ but I don't want that game no more

solid hinge
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Maybe wait for a sale if you’re not sure about a game

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can u get it cheaper not from origin

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I mean if you’re really not sure watch a trusted reviewer

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Never watch ign or any of that

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ok

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do you think it could go on sale in like christmas?

compact oxide
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@solid hinge Technically there's those dodgy stolen keys sites that are selling codes

minor gale
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If you have origin access you get 10% discount iirc

pallid sparrow
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When I saw on the bf v beta that you couldn't destroy a simple wood door... I knew that I had to don't buy that game

compact oxide
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What

pallid sparrow
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Cheek it on YouTube

compact oxide
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So you watched unfinished beta footage and made a presumption you can't destroy doors? LUL

pallid sparrow
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Yes the game will be so diferent 1 month later @compact oxide

solid hinge
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The beta isn’t finished there will be bugs

pallid sparrow
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And I am not a hater I play bf since bf3

solid hinge
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The game will be different as they announced

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The beta was 2 months ago

compact oxide
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I'd think bugs like doors that can't be destroyed would be very easy to fix there

solid hinge
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That’s a lot of time

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To fix issues

compact oxide
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Plus the beta is an older version even at teh time

solid hinge
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And since they delayed it they can iron out these issues

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buy it on christmas

compact oxide
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And even if, by some chance they keep dodgy doors in there on release, I really don't think that's a dealbreaker for me πŸ˜›

solid hinge
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I don’t get how betas are gonna be flawless

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If the game was releasing like two weeks after beta then fair enough but two months is a lot of time

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They can get a lot done in that time

glad wasp
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Anyone know if origin premium count as deluxe preorder for the air drops and paratrooper kits?

hoary condor
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i would of thought so

minor gale
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Origin premier, origin access just gives you a 10h trial

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So you don’t own the game then

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@glad wasp

glad wasp
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I mean the 24$ one

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It definitely get you the game for as long as it's active

minor gale
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Yap

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And deluxe status

glad wasp
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Ok, that's what I was looking for

minor gale
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So you can play unlimited from the 9th

glad wasp
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Might cancel my pre-order and get that

minor gale
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And get all the preorder stuff

brittle imp
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No 9th release for console FeelsDefenceMan

glad wasp
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I think there's an Xbox version of this

stuck plaza
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Wait, Origin acces can give you a 10h trial?

glad wasp
#

Yeah for 5$

stuck plaza
#

wow

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didnt know it

brittle imp
#

But no release in sight for rdr2 on PC wesmart

glad wasp
#

To optimize, you can get origin access basic + preorder inside bf1, it's a 10% off by stacking both

stuck plaza
#

wdy preorder inside bf1

glad wasp
#

If you pre-order inside bf1, there's a discount

stuck plaza
#

really?

cerulean knot
#

If I pre-order BFV standard what day I can play?

stuck plaza
#

november 20th

cerulean knot
#

Wait I thought pre-order play it first?

#

:/

stuck plaza
#

deluxe only

glad wasp
#

Origin access basic gives you 10 hrs from the 9th to the 20th

cerulean knot
#

Verdammt

stuck plaza
#

WHAT

#

SERIOUSLY

#

I CAN PLAY FROM THE 9TH OF NOVEMBER?

glad wasp
#

For 5$ also comes with a 5% discount to buying ea games

stuck plaza
#

how do you know so much...?

glad wasp
#

Cause I looked into how to game the system I guess

stuck plaza
#

i have origin acces basic, so i can play from the 9th

#

?

glad wasp
#

Yep

#

For 10 hrs only

stuck plaza
#

omg

#

thanks

glad wasp
#

Np

stuck plaza
#

can i predownload it

glad wasp
#

I think preload is only live for Xbox right now, I expect it would be another week or so

hoary condor
#

pre-load isn't too important anyway tbh

brittle imp
#

I dont get why not lot ps4 preload as well man

#

I just wanna download it

glad wasp
#

It's still 2 weeks out

#

What's the pointing of downloading it now

hoary condor
#

either do i, but hey ho...

tight kettle
#

Preload on PC is available from nov7

glad wasp
#

Right, it says that in origin, I forgot

hoary condor
#

rip

#

pre-ordering tonight

#

fuck i love payday haha

tight kettle
#

Pls don't rely on payday

glad wasp
#

Think about origin premium, especially if you are interested in anthem too

hoary condor
#

what you mean?

#

my payday good bruh

tight kettle
#

Ya but spending everything you have is not smart

#

Unless you are using it as a figure of speech

glad wasp
#

You can't just assume he's not building saving too though

hoary condor
#

i have savings lol

#

i just don't eat into that

tight kettle
#

Alright good man

hoary condor
#

payday i put half away and half to spend

minor gale
#

I have origin premier and can preload 7th and play 9th Nov

hoary condor
#

i buy myself new music, hair/beard cut, this month.. a new sniper rifle (airsoft) battlefield, rdr2 and maybe a few bottles of wine

minor gale
#

Unlimited FeelsLoveMan

#

Good investment

hoary condor
#

@minor gale where you get origin from?

#

gimme dat dank hax u have πŸ˜‰

minor gale
#

I pay

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15€ a month

tight kettle
#

From paying ea 15/month

hoary condor
#

that's not bad

minor gale
#

Or 100€ yearly

hoary condor
#

i pay you 7.5€ a month

#

we share πŸ˜‰

tight kettle
#

Origin and chill

minor gale
#

But I did it for fifa, bf v and anthem

hoary condor
#

ea i only play bf

glad wasp
#

If you buy it yearly it's just the price of two aaa

#

Anthem looks like it will at least be worth a download

hoary condor
#

dam.. had too much wine at lunch i think

#

ha

minor gale
#

And with premier you get all those other games

glad wasp
#

Also, that cool indie game during e3

minor gale
#

Cities skylines

#

And so on

glad wasp
#

My only grip is I bought a lot of the old ea catalogs

#

So only the new games matter....

minor gale
#

Well will also get future games aswell

tight kettle
#

Half life 3?

glad wasp
#

Inb4 ea rescues starcitizen

tight kettle
#

Dang I forgot about that game

#

"Game"

glad wasp
#

Poor Chris Roberts got bailed by Microsoft last time

#

We will see who bails him this time

hoary condor
amber granite
#

Battlefield V > bad company 2

#

sorry but someone had to say it .

solid hinge
#

I’d wait for the game to come out

icy sluice
#

Same

solid hinge
#

Which I don’t actually know where I’ll rank battlefield v for top favorite battlefield games

amber granite
#

bad company 2 was ass

#

I would rather play bf4

icy sluice
#

It has potential to be number one

#

ay, embed ain't working

pure veldt
#

aight, get a rope.. some dude just said bc2 was ass

amber granite
#

I would rather play phantom forces on roblox over bc2

pure veldt
#

someone set up the brain wipe device, the unit has a malfunction

#

were you born on or before 1995?

amber granite
#

cod infinite warfare > bc2

pure veldt
#

ok now you're just trolling

#

i can no longer believe anything typed on screen after that

brittle imp
#

Troll confirmed

solid hinge
#

Ok I didn’t think much but what did I just read

brittle imp
#

Pay no attention just a troll

hoary condor
#

@pulsar valve remove Loski pls. ❀

pulsar valve
#

Keep it related to Battlefield @amber granite

shadow vessel
#

Anyone is allowed to have an opinion as long as its related to battlefield.

hoary condor
#

or facts mlody

#

battlefield v is going to be amazing - Fact

shadow vessel
#

Of course it is hence me being here

hoary condor
#

❀

minor gale
#

you can have an opinion as long it's not racist or insults specific persons or companies

#

if it is constructive it's always welcome

hoary condor
#

example

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@minor gale is handsome

minor gale
light coral
#

🌭

pure veldt
#

i can't have destructive criticism?

#

start a campaign ending destructive criticism in the world, i have not heard the term and will start using it

#

this is nice to see

#

1% of the community can make something seem much more abysmal than it really is.

sacred junco
#

I personally like having niche fronts represented, but I know its not what ppl expect out of a mainstream ww2 game with a large budget

#

Doesn't help it feels kinda half assed when they add in anachronism for the sake of gameplay anyways

#

if Panzerstorm is gonna be set in the largest tank battle of its time with Tigers and Sturmtigers it does make their claim of authenticity kinda hollow

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Which I don't mind for gameplays sake. I bet its a pain to balance tanks in each map by era

pure veldt
#

Making a game is a very exhausting and complicated process... I mean I don't expect everyone to just be blindly happy and go about their lives, but this is the Battlefield series.. it is on par with what is expected from it.

sacred junco
#

pz1s and pz4 with stubby guns in one map and then panthers and tigers in one map

sullen mist
#

The anachronistic errors and the wrong use of gamemodes like airborne for a battle that mostly used coastal landings and naval battles kinda underwhelms the whole "unexplored battles of ww2"

#

Especially if we are following the timeline from the start of the war

pure veldt
#

A poor choice of a few words can't spoil the experience πŸ˜„

sacred junco
#

But it does address them at least

pure veldt
#

Someone that probably doesn't know a ton about the game is writing the marketing.

sacred junco
#

I am genuniely interested in Crete

minor gale
#

I mean people complain that they dont get a WW2 game like all the others we had

sacred junco
#

and more Mediterranean battles

minor gale
#

I love the idea to get sth different and refreshing

sacred junco
#

but they are still a bent out for gameplay and deadlines sake

sullen mist
#

I mean yeah I like the idea, but I feel it could have been executed a whole lot better, at the very least if we were following the timeline of early unexplored battles we could have early war weapons and vehicles

#

That's just my two cents

minor gale
#

well new weapons come with new factions

sullen mist
#

I'd also have liked if we had the French as well as a solo faction at the start

minor gale
#

why add American weapons when they are not even in the game

sacred junco
#

If they are gonna add French tanks somehow for panzerstorm

#

how can you expect a B1 to fight a Tiger

#

give em ARLs?

sullen mist
#

Sure why not

#

Or

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Give the French the B1 with the 152mm howitzer

#

Which yes was technically a German captured tank upgraded with a howitzer

#

Because screw it

sacred junco
#

I doubt they'd add French tanks regardless, gotta put time into the next tide

sullen mist
#

Which is a shame because it would be nice to use the Char B1 or even the S35 and Char 2C which while it was mostly used for propaganda purposes it did have some nice armament and could open up for potentially decent vehicular teamplay

sacred junco
#

not "brave" enough to add some French meme tanks

sullen mist
#

H.35...actually maybe a Panhard 178

#

For light tanks

ionic heron
green elm
#

are frontlines lobbies emptying after one or two matches for anyone else?

sacred junco
#

Wouldnt be surprised

#

Frontlines slowly burns you out when you are losing

green elm
#

i’ve had to jump between servers often

#

yeah, won’t deny

sacred junco
#

And its harder to really play for a long time since a game can last a while

pure veldt
#

any news on practice range and if it will have moving targets and simulation of real game?

solid hinge
#

Nope

marsh ledge
#

'Ello, everyone.

solid hinge
#

Bfv never reveals the training yet.

#

I think is coming

marsh ledge
#

Just a thought, but wouldn't the training range be similar to 4's?

#

With a few new features, of course.

solid hinge
#

Today is battlefield 3’s birthday

#

It is 7 years old

pure veldt
#

bf4 had one?.........

#

πŸ˜„

#

when the f?

glad wasp
#

You can access the bf4 training range through battlelog

#

it had playing UAVs as moving targets

pure veldt
#

i mean i played 4 a ton.. i never saw it

#

when in its lifecycle was it introduced?

glad wasp
#

I don't recall if there were moving gun range targets

#

at launch

pure veldt
#

...

glad wasp
#

random vid on youtube

#

there were moving targets

pure veldt
#

how.. how could this never have been known

#

can you use non unlocked weapons?

#

all attachments?

tight kettle
#

there were a bunch of weapons laying on the ground you could try

solid hinge
#

yeah in bf4 training range

#

there were moving boats, uavs, targets

icy sluice
#

Well, BFV's practice range will allow more than one person

solid hinge
#

oooo

#

The one thing that’s interesting is the test range not coming at launch

icy sluice
#

Quick 1 on 1s

solid hinge
#

For battlefield v

#

alot of stuff isnt at launch

#

but

#

we will get it at somepoint

#

so i dont mind

#

ill have heaps of stuff when i get it in april

#

Yeah that’s fine but it’s just weird things like vehicle cosmetics aren’t coming and test range isn’t gonna be out at launch

#

yeah

#

it would almost be better if they waited to release in december

#

before christmas sometime

tight kettle
#

if everything else is ironed out why not release it

#

it has enough maps, guns, vehicles and modes for a base launch

#

why delay for something as trivial as cosmetics

rocky oar
#

Could someone direct me to the Easter egg discussion?

tight kettle
rocky oar
#

Thanks

solid hinge
#

So what exactly is coming with deluxe edition

tight kettle
#

it says so in the blogpost

solid hinge
#

Ok

#

Oh I see now

tight kettle
#

Special Assignments: Get rolling with Assignments inspired by the British Special Air Service’s true-to-life raids on German air bases, and ones based on the defense of airfields on the North African coastline by the German FallschirmjΓ€ger troops, as well as Starter Assignments providing more ways to test your skills on the battlefield and earn rewards

#

I dont know how to interpret this though

serene wyvern
#

its saying you gotta be a true Gamer to understand

wild oxide
#

Yeah, it doesn't really give us an insight on what rewards we'll get out of the Special Assignments either

dense bone
#

har har

tight kettle
#

Are they just assignments you can select during normal games you play?

#

or is there something you can do besides that involving raids on airbases that isn't in the basegame?

#

Confusing.

#

Also can players earn airlifts through playing?

wild oxide
#

I think so yeah

#

It's just that Deluxe gets a head start

#

Kinda like how Premium gets special Battlepacks in 1 and 4

tight kettle
#

ah

#

that's fine

#

as long as i can look like a soldier in the beginning and can carry an emblem on my shoulder im good

hybrid dragon
#

PERKELE

#

Hi Hess his stream

#

Sorry bois.

granite path
#

so in bfV how are lootboxes named

icy sluice
#

There are none

#

So they have no name

#

Mind freak

granite path
#

that s an oof

#

plus the skins shown in beta are the shit ones

icy sluice
#

"Shit" mad

sacred junco
#

I like the Axis medic's mad scientist look

#

and mall ninja Axis Recon

waxen crystal
#

what's the difference between automatico 1918 and Ribeyrolles 1918?

#

I'm quite lost there, I have only used Ribeyrolles and I don't know how better or worse the other one would be

solid hinge
#

automatico

#

is like

#

PWPWPWPWPWP

proven quartz
#

One shoots faster

solid hinge
#

ribeyrolles is like

#

wp pw pw pw

#

atomatico has huge recoil

#

and is best inside 10m

#

ribeyrolles

#

is much better

#

imo

#

but i prefer the smg 08

#

or the hellreigel

proven quartz
#

Medic ftw

solid hinge
#

i like assault

#

dont get fucked over by tanks all game

worn cave
#

Automatico Trench is still the "ruin some guy's day" weapon from 0-15m lol

#

I don't even bother with ADS

solid hinge
#

yeah

#

if you lie down its hard for them though

#

hard to control recoil

#

murder them with model10-a

#

or hellriegel

worn cave
#

I don't have any problems controlling it on PC at least

obsidian fossil
#

heyo

solid hinge
#

its really difficult on xbox

worn cave
#

Not as difficult on PC, only thing is having to reload so much lol

serene wyvern
#

What is up with people like this? He did the same stuff, even on the previous map where our team won-- Very efficiently, mind you.

#

I was playing with Viskadel and this guy just wouldn't stop e_e

#

Looking back, I considered it to be something ironic but there is no chance.

midnight nimbus
#

just use Sjogren instead of 10-A

#

or 12G Auto

sacred junco
#

Is it Tsaritsyn?

serene wyvern
#

No

sacred junco
#

I feel like a Trench Gun is just as good as a Model in most scenarios and its basically semi auto

solid hinge
#

Model 1900 is fun to use, maybe just due to nostalgia from WaW zombies, idk

sacred junco
#

I like it too

#

I have a soft spot for low mag fast reload weapons

solid hinge
#

Yeah, & I seem to be more careful with my shots when using it, over something like the Model 10-A, due to the realization that I'm probably fucked if I miss even 1 shot

opal lodge
#

bf1 servers down?

#

keep getting matchmaking error :(

amber notch
opal lodge
amber notch
#

Its probably your origin, so i would refresh it

#

if that doesn't work hard reset your modem

#

last resort is support

#

EA has a great support website.
Fast and easy to navigate, and is easily accessible

opal lodge
#

hmm

#

all servers are empty too in custom search

#

Did a pc & router restart but still getting same issue

#

All servers are empty and matchmaking fails to forward me

#

Apparently i can't post screenshots in here πŸ€”

amber notch
#

@opal lodge head over to support in all honesty

#

Yeah you need perms to do so

opal lodge
#

i'm not gonna wait 2 weeks for a generic email.
If its broken they will fix it, not too worried about it

#

thank you tho for the help

minor gale
#

did you reset your filter for the server browser ^^

opal lodge
#

i never had a filter to begin with

minor gale
#

sounds stupid but that happens often to me

opal lodge
#

yea thats fine

minor gale
opal lodge
#

nvm youre right

#

found 2 servers with people on

minor gale
opal lodge
#

i take it

minor gale
#

i sometimes have some weird filters which i never activated, such like game mode and server player limit

opal lodge
#

might have just happened to me looks like it

minor gale
#

or searched a server by a name in the filter which doesnt excist anymore

opal lodge
#

am in queue v0v

#

time to frag

#

thanks guys

minor gale
solid hinge
#

Hey everyone thinking about getting bf1. Wanted to know how the servers are if still a lot of people play it. On PlayStation

#

It’s around 4 dollars on ps4 with all dlc too

zinc vessel
#

Go for it. 4 bucks is a great deal

minor gale
#

around 20k average I would say

#

on PS4

tacit furnace
#

is battlefield included in origin premier? like, i dont need to buy the game? lol

#

cuz it says it's gonna pre-load on nov 7 as if I pre-ordered

zinc vessel
minor gale
#

@tacit furnace you talking about BF V?

solid hinge
#

I assume that’s good? πŸ˜‚

#

I just use to play bf4 and it would be empty sometimes

minor gale
#

I would say in Conquest it's not a problem to find a game πŸ˜„

waxen crystal
#

@solid hinge thanks a lot, I understood perfectly. I prefer assault too. What do you need to do to unlock smg 08?

solid hinge
#

How about rush?

tacit furnace
#

yes @minor gale

minor gale
#

Peak hours look good with playernumbers

#

@tacit furnace If you own Origin Premier you will get the game for preload on 7th Nov and can play from the 9th Nov without limits. You will own the Deluxe Edition for the time you own Premier Access

tacit furnace
#

@minor gale ah, thank you

minor gale
rigid pike
#

Hey all im new to discord. Looking for peeps to play bf1 with on ps4. Tryn to get use to usin this discord

rough smelt
rigid pike
#

Okay im just lookin for people to gsme with. What else am i doing wrong tho

umbral anvil
#

@minor gale those are good numbers for a game thats a few years old, where do you find out the stats? can you find out stats for bf4 and bad company 2 ?

minor gale
solid hinge
#

Pretty good for a game five years old

waxen crystal
#

it's got around 5000 people on ps3 too

#

it's pretty impressive

solid hinge
#

more like proof DICE hasn't made anything worth while since BF2

umbral anvil
#

it doesnt show on the site

#

but bad company 2 is still populated

#

lots of servers

proven quartz
#

Nostalgia really plays a effect too

solid hinge
#

To a degree, don't get me wrong, BF2 is pretty bad by today's standards, but it took legitimate risks that pushed stuff forward in exciting and big ways, without losing the core of the experience seen in 1942. They made social gaming easier - and while of course there was lots they had to cut to make release, what was delivered was still an expansion and evolution from 1942 and Vietnam.

#

BF3 might have had an expansion of first person experience stuff revolving and contained withing the player, but the actual team, world and overall battle experiences that everyone shared were less dynamic and less complex than even BC2.

#

And each subsequent release has felt more solo, lonewolf, pickup-and-play, drop-in-drop-out low individual contribution with maximum selfish play style design

#

BFV feels like a decent return to form, but really, the biggest experience game-changer is the massive 3D spotting nerf.

#

Vehicle spawning and lack of main bases really cheapens the battle feel.

#

tbh i wish bfv was modern time

#

Nah, I think modern is too imba

zinc vessel
#

I don't. Everything is the same in modern

fresh panther
#

Anyone up for BF4?

solid hinge
#

world war gets boring tho fast right

#

Not at all

#

that was the big issue for bf1 i heard when it came out

#

Unless implemented really poorly

#

people disliked the guns found them boring

#

well, if they go about it with everyone having all the guns

#

yeah it is gonna be bad

#

idk i think it would be awesome to see modern war in battlefield game now

#

we're one iteration out of modern

#

especially with how nice the games have been looking

#

and modern means necesarily adding back guided weapons and flir/irnv and junk

#

bleh

#

DICE isn't gonna do it, but WWII allows for great asymmetric factions

#

did you like bf1? I'm about to play it for first time sort of. Played a bit of the game a match or 2 cause it was my friends game

#

BF1 was junk

#

to me at least

#

i got it for 5 dollars with all dlc

proven quartz
#

Bf3 was trash imo

#

Don't know why but never liked it

solid hinge
#

bf3>bf4 in my opinion

#

i liked 3's maps more

hollow canyon
#

I liked 3's maps more, but I like everything else about BF4

#

Have they said if Hardcore will be in BFV?

solid hinge
#

I mean it’s been seven years since we’ve had a modern battlefield game as the next one comes in 2020

wild oxide
#

I'm sure Hardcore will be in BFV at some point, I just don't know if it'll be one of the permanent gamemodes or the temporary ones

hollow canyon
#

I dont undestand non-permanent gamemodes

#

Why even put it in if it's going to be temporary?

#

Hearing that Rush will be temporary kind of annoyed me

wild oxide
#

Yeah, I wasn't too into Rush in the more recent games, but I loved it in BF3.

hollow canyon
#

Same

proven quartz
#

Rush hasn't been good in a long time

hollow canyon
#

It's fun in BF4

proven quartz
#

As long as Domination is in that's all I care about

#

T5 Dom is fucking amazing

wild oxide
#

I just wonder if they're gonna bring back Gun Game at all. It's not too big of a deal if they don't but I kinda enjoyed it

#

Or did it have a different name?

#

I can't remember

proven quartz
#

Dude gunmaster was the shit

wild oxide
#

Ah right, Gunmaster

solid hinge
#

no need for hardcore if they keep 3D spotting down as far as it is

hollow canyon
#

No minimap in HC though

icy sluice
#

I'd love Squad Gunmaster

#

Okay, maybe not that name

waxen crystal
#

From my point of view, bf1 is (pretty much) my first battlefield game and I'm having loads of fun playing it

#

maybe it doesn't keep what you liked from previous games, which I can't really tell since I didnt play them, but the ww1 feel is perfectly achieved

rough smelt
#

BF1 is far from anything that can give you a ww1 feeling other than the theme itself

#

coating a honda civic in ferrari red doesn't give you a ferrari

solid hinge
#

There’s so many ways battlefield 1 doesn’t give the true ww1 experience

#

You should be sitting in trenches the whole time as running in the open was called no mans land

#

Your guns should jam and certain weapons weren’t used

sullen mist
#

It was the lack of asymetric tank battles that I disliked Bf1 for

rough smelt
#

gun jamming isn't a strictly ww1 thing.. nor should it be in any BF game

solid hinge
#

I would say battlefield 1 makes ww1 believable

#

Like the most believable representation of ww1

zinc vessel
#

ehhh

#

idk about that

sullen mist
#

Eh....not entirely when soldiers use foreign made smgs deployed in tiny numbers or not even made passed a prototype at all, the maps I think are realistic looking but even that's probably debatable

proven quartz
#

It's just a fps with a WW1 theme

zinc vessel
#

yeah

solid hinge
#

I was saying if you look at it from the surface and not really dive deep it would be believable for representing ww1

zinc vessel
#

I guess so

solid hinge
#

But I am saying battlefield 1 doesn’t represent ww1 100% accurately at all

zinc vessel
#

Well yeah, but I do get what you mean.

sullen mist
#

Maybe in the context of air battles and naval battles but I still think the best way to describe bf1 is that it's an alternate ww1 where the different factions managed to mass produce their different powerful weapons that were previously prototypes or never mass fielded at all which led to the war being less of a battle of standing still while attrition wears you down and more of a early blitzkrieg style

solid hinge
#

If that’s the case then I don’t get how people lose their minds over battlefield v

rough smelt
#

because cherry picking things is fun to them

zinc vessel
#

No. Bitching is fun to them

#

but also cherry picking

solid hinge
#

I’m pretty much done with the discussion about battlefield v anyways

#

I voted with my wallet to buy the game already

sullen mist
#

I mean I already keep the thought process in my mind that Battlefield V due to being part of the Battlefield universe it will have its own technological strides to explain why weapons like the STG-44, KE7, Churchill, tiger and other crap were used in the early stages of the war in large numbers, the women I sorta imagine to be like Valkyrie chronicles since that also does the same thing

solid hinge
#

Like it’s been going on for so long

sullen mist
#

I think it's not at this point worth complaining about, the true complaints and criticism should come when the game finally launches as we can all judge for ourselves if this was the game we want to continue playing and supporting

zinc vessel
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I know I'll like it. I'm a simple person to please.

sullen mist
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I enjoyed playing it with friends, but long term I'm curious how much I can play this for

solid hinge
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Yeah I’m still wondering if battlefield v can keep me interested

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Hopefully it can though

zinc vessel
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Like I said. I'm a simple man.

wild oxide
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Usually I play new Battlefields almost religiously for about 2 months, take a break and come back for new content. With the live system that might change, who knows.

zinc vessel
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Well if you take a break for two months then the new content should be out

wild oxide
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True

zinc vessel
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On the roadmap they are all two months apart. If I remember correctly, but who knows

sullen mist
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My only disliking of the live system is that whole 'certain cosmetics will be available for this amount of time and afterwards will be gone replaced by another set of cosmetics for next chapter'

zinc vessel
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Really?

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Interesting

sullen mist
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I don't think it's set in stone yet

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But it may be that's how the new live system may work?

zinc vessel
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I don't think so

wild oxide
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Hopefully, they'll do what they did with skins in BF1 Battlepacks where they just pile all of the cosmetics into one mega pack at the end or something.

zinc vessel
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I think it just adds new things every time

sullen mist
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I hope so

zinc vessel
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and then they are set in stone

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But right now I don't think we really know

sullen mist
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I don't really like timed events especially incase I won't be able to access it due to being busy

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I mean exclusivity is partly why I dislike how bf4 gave only the dice devs the black dice camo but timed events on the other hand...

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Meh

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I'm a sucker for cosmetics I guess lol

zinc vessel
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I don't think it'll have timed cosmetics, unlike the rush game mode which is only in one chapter. I am a sucker as well. They melt me

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and sounds, they melt me too

wild oxide
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I play largely based on Aesthetics, if it looks good I'll use it, even if it sucks most of the time

zinc vessel
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yeah

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If it looks ugly but is amazing, I won't use it

sullen mist
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I just hope my precious Adrian helmet is in the base game

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I want that poilu look

zinc vessel
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Oo sexy

sullen mist
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Hell if I had the money I'd buy a replica French ww2 combat uniform just to look in the mirror and maybe take to a ww2 recreation event

zinc vessel
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I'm a sucker for Russian gear

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And Japanese

sullen mist
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But alas city regulations won't allow it for me, probably have to go to the countryside

zinc vessel
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Aww lame

sullen mist
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French and British for me, I appreciate the North Africa look for my Tommies and the Battle of France look for the Frenchies

umbral anvil
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the nazis army uniform look great.. whoever was designer was good at it

zinc vessel
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They do

sullen mist
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I prefer the Afrika Korps uniform, sometimes rag tag desert yellow camos, other times olive greenish bdus, heard apparently it's due to the weather

zinc vessel
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I think the Swastika is really cool looking, but sadly the whole World War and genocide have ruined it.

umbral anvil
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yea and to think it was a buddha symbol before the nazis took it

sullen mist
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It's a Manju symbol that the Finnish airforce used as a sorta good luck symbol, arguably they used the Manju symbol before the NSDAP formed

zinc vessel
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I thought it had something to do with the crusades, but I may be completely wrong

umbral anvil
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what is teh meaning of the swastika in Buddhism

zinc vessel
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Yup I think I'm wrong

sullen mist
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Symbolises eternal cycling

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Whatever that means

zinc vessel
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Reincarnation maybe?

sullen mist
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Maybe

sacred junco
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Le windmill of friendship

icy sluice
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full of corpses

wild oxide
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Be prepared for the Hail Hortler memes to be on the rise once more

sullen mist
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You mean the wehraboos infecting Battlefield V?

sacred junco
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I feel like not a lot of wehraboos will buy bfv

sullen mist
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Huh

solid hinge
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i hate

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i hate

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being top 81

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LOL

tight kettle
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Haha

solid hinge
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not funny

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i try my best to help..

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and my win percentage is freaking 46%

tight kettle
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Hailhortler memes are funny

zinc vessel
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That thing was a little messed up lol