#battlefield-legacy-titles
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Damage reduction basically yeah
Percentage damage reduction, flat absorption as a secondary HP pool, or flat reduction per hit?
Or some more complex model?
I assume there is a detailed model
involving bullet types and distance and all that
Which means that it also could feel rather inconsistent
Hear you could shoot someone in the head 3 times with a sniper
That is stupid
Glancing hits being deflected on the helmet?
Maybe
That's probably a little too detailed
I want level 4 helmet that can withstand 50cal
hahaha
But the downside is you snap your neck and die anyway
just cover your head in super thick titanium. Ez pz
just don't have a head
Thinking outside the box. I like it
Todd knows what he's saying.
I wonder if a detailed mechanic for tanks like in wot would fit in bfv
It already had something like it
I think it would
But I don't think true armor angling is possible
Who knows
Is that some kind of hack
Nice nice
I don't know how much it will help you, but you can try increasing your minimap size
Team balancing just moved me three times in one match, I'm fucking done.
Now we can shoot the wamans
Your mistake is not using the annihilator
Don't be afraid to hipfire. That's my ti[
go for it
Heck naw
Well, I mean, the Trench/Carbine Snipers are decent for hipfiring
if someone gets close too me
or just get a good squad, you'll improve in no time
i help the team out
i use scout just to put flares
and yes i kill people
carefully thinking.
Is there flarehacks in bfv?
No
I don't like it in bf1
then use it the right way.
I can't. I don't snipe like a little girl
well you good for support or a assault class
Ya assault is all i play unless I need to mortar a bunch of campers
Just the flarehacks are dumb
Cheesy way to spot flankers
Ya not by firing a dumbass flare
lol
Go spam q like the rest of us
Nah they are being pre fired by decent players
I won't mind if they had direct line of sight
It's not about diehard
I got a winrate of 70% I'm diehard bro
I just don't like dumb shit
then play calm
Like seemingly infinite traps, gas and incendiary grenades
Nah. That's not the German way
Gotta go lightning fast
The grenade issue seemed to be gone in bfv
Nobody saw that
because they don''t know history people need stop acting like then just play the game
i saw bfv gameplay myself
they work hard.
I saw it Nick :^)
For sure
worth to buy
I jumped into the beta. That was the deciding factor for me
The gunplay was swag as hell
That's the only reason I'm buying it
the swag is real boys
the movement is the only thing
that drives me to buy the game
I cant wait for the 9th
Just dont be mad if your knifed by one
Im upgrade my pc mid November also
I got a fx 8350 gona get the 2700x
I got the deluxe one
You guys are lucky if you can play by 9th
not me
Yeah
nope
I see
i'm not getting the Deluxe version
Well, Deluxe start on the 15th, you start on the 9th if you have Origin Premium
But in all seriousness I would rather them release it at the same time for everyone if it’s complete
Im gona upgrade my ea access from basic to premier so i can play it from the 9 to launch and downgrade to basic again lol
I'll buy the full game somewhere in the first month
Iam gonna have to afford premier until December. Cant afford the game until then 
Haha
As long as you join us it's all good
i only buy them when its late
15€ for one month I get to play early and get same perks as deluxe plus next month I can afford it win win 
@tight kettle i play on my Xbox lol i'm not PC
Ewwww
what
Well still. Enjoy man
i grew up with Xbox
The last game i bought at launch was bf1 or it was mass effect
XD
I got xb1 and ps4 but i only play pc my wife plays the xb1 allot
A good comedy
Be happy your wife doesn't hog your pc
I wish I had a wife like that
I wish I had a wife at all
Maybe Santa brings me one this year
Lol
Well i work all the time so when i do get home i get the pc
Cas she just stays at home
@wild oxide You mean origin Premier right?
Yes

Trying that juicy destruction I like it
i love that meme
oh my god yeah its so cool
so smoothed from the alpha thank god lol
did you see the guy ontop of the churchill at 1:00
My name means absolutely nothing tbh
Ya
I just wanted an original name
How does that work. Do tanks have seating positions on the back now?

i would like that
My name is unoriginal
it would be really cool actually
I took my father's idea
Yeah it would
The machinegun sound in tank are so good too
oh yeah
the entire sound set for the tanks are great
listen to the tigers tracks squeak
and the crickets in the turning panzer's turret.
I will later when I have louder sound
good 😄 its still in #streams-and-videos
and listen to the soundtrack in the other one
i think its "Moody Suspense"
😩
So since battlefield v is coming closer
I want to ask a question or two actually
What mechanics makes a battlefield game a true battlefield title?
Why is battlefield so good?
Or why do we love it better yet?
Ooo I like Moody Suspense
Pretty moody yes
I wonder how well an iran-Iraq war based battlefield would work
you've got all the assets to work with
Battlefield is battlefield because size and infantry/vehicles
They'd need to remove things like scuds and chemical weapons then
And destruction. adding to nick
To me anyway. And since bfv they are getting pretty close to perfect gun gameplay if you ask me
at the same time yeah it does feel very tasteless
mm
I don't think alot of iranians would be happy since the war happened recently
Yeaaa
well there's bf3 tbh
Yeah
it would be interesting though
really shitty alt right memes
otherwise reason I asked the original question was because I was reading into the war a little and it's very resemblent to ww2
except it has jet planes and helicopters
I wish transport helicopters were a thing in bf
they are lol
Where a few guys flying back and forth was beneficial
gunships are used for just that
I think they should make that sort of stuff xp gains
That's definitely more for a slow paced game
Yeah maybe
Yeah, sadly people only liked to use Transport Helis as one-use Taxis
yeah
I remember doing that shit in Vietnam and bf2
To be fair planetside 2 has transport vehicles and people use them to ferry people all the time
said game is about as fast paced as battlefield
Never tried that game
it's better on PC
hmm
just remember
also depends on the gamemode, for instance in bf1 I see alot of hardcore servers where they use vehicles for ferrying
I've never seen that, but that would be awesome
I just don't think that the majority of the playerbase would be that patient
With scout class in bfv that becomes pretty much useless I think
it's weird
I don't really know how the bf community is so impatient
Like, you'd think they'd be fine but it's strange
what do you mean nick
Scouts can spawn on other squadleaders
Noice
It does make the scout more useful in the squad
how?
They can teleport your squads
Given squad had to die first
Yeah but that just sorta ruins squadplay doesn't it?
It's like how it used to be squad leader only spawns
that encouraged teamplay because it forced the player to be near the SL
But headshots now make players unrevivable
noice
So one bullet to the sl dome and the sl is stuck on spawn
sounds like a horrible idea if it were implemented in bf1 or bf4 but with bfv it could work
We'll see how it works
It makes conquest more bearable for me I think
I don't enjoy the endless running between points
I don't see where dragging fits in tho
I sorta like it tbh
If you can drag relatively fast it could be useful because reviving is not instant
Sometimes you need break times between combat
So EA is delaying everything for BF5 into oblivion?
apperantly
Such a shame
kinda dissapointed only 2 maps for the current roadmap
Why? that's still 10 maps total
True
the roadmap is going to turn into battlefront 2. It's a super shitty business practice but its to prevent more fuel on the fire
The thing people don't realize is that
I think it's actually more than two maps, because it says Tank Battles
I rather have the game now and play what is available tbh
bfv is diffrent
Thats why they switched to the live service crap so that if the games dont sell well they dont have to continue support
battlefront 2 wasn't even dice's main project tbh
they're not going to abandon bfv like bfront 2 because bf is their child series
it's their baby
Yes but because its licensed out on a contract EA does need to keep up its contract with Disney. Otherwise they'll lose it
If it was their baby they wouldn't of made it into this dumpster fire
what I said
Im glad they are going the live service way
me too
Im still discovering new maps in bf1 today
You realize they have no obligation to fullfill all the live service right?
Nope
Because nobody played the premium stuff
But hey I'm good with it
Do you understand they dont have to make the live service
if the game doesnt make money
?
Yup
Sure
so why are you okay with that?
Idk
Do you understand the maps you usually pay for aren't even played few days after release
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Whats your goal with that specific counter argument?
Are you attempting to defend EAs practice?
Idk
What dice/EA is trying now yes
Trying isnt doing
its a piss excuse for something that should of been done in development
I mean are they willing to let that go?
Also I don't really know but people don't realize that AAA games are really hard to make
Holy shit. Sneaking pulse(soundtrack) is amazing
it's not some conspiracy
Dice isn't obliged to release DLC for money
What is your point exactly?
I mean 1 is an STD riddled cum stain on the series
the frostbite engine is a fucking cutting edge piece of tech
The base games where roughly the same size
it's not easy to work with at all
it's hard to probably make content
only now are they slightly considering having users have the frostbite editor
back when bf3 came around they would crash trying to compile maps
@solid hinge if your sole business is to make a game and thats all you do. EA has the talent and budget but they arent making games how we would want them too. They have a quarterly and they have public stocks. They have to stand out and to make a profit. So, they go business route and try to squeeze every inch of a dollar out of its consumer. Only issue is they destroy the fabric of what a game is
Of couse they can't reach for deadlines with some things; it's hard to program that stuff
Perhaps but I'm sure that DICE has control over their game
It's not like EA really calls the shots for the most part;
Thats fine but when you have over three AAA games in a row tank because of live service or micro transactions. They need a different business model
it aint working
EA does call the shots man
they are the producer
they fund the studio with obligations
They do but only for the financial technicalities
They're not going to kill off battlefield because of one game
Why exactly is the current service bad?
the dlc one?
No the bfv service
Live service is fine
it just doesnt work for certain games
DLC works but separates the community
It is true
They're goals though are to sell us in a live service micro trans
in order to keep a service up it has to be continually funded
so thats where micro comes in
daggum trans
only problem is with bf5 its stuff their community doesnt care much about nor is it appealing to want to buy
I feel like if they had their maps have a little of every front then people wouldn't complain
It's great to know that most tank battles in history used indirect explosives instead of cannons
Its not so much the lack of content
because the problem with the live service is that they're promising later fronts with their live service model
this can fail at any time
They should have had 1 map be d day, another be narvik, etc etc
and if the game doesnt meet its numbers they wont make those add ons in the live service. There is zero obligation for them to do so
since we didnt technically pay for the live service
From what i understand the live service is supposed to go through the war early to end war in chronological order
the tides of war thing where maps come after a certain time can fail at any time
At the same time they have alot of people figuring this sort of stuff out
this is dice we're talking about
Yeah that's what a publisher does
yeah but the main point is
DICE is a satellite studio now
They know this sort of stuff from the start
It's like Activision Treyarch, Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer
@icy sluice Publishers dont always buy studios.
@icy sluice Yes, when they get big enough they can buy studios
They know that their franchise is popular enough for people to buy it
even without backlash
debatable
they have done calculations of this
even if they do it wont sell like they wanted
I mean
they are making a lot of these games now to a general audience
not just its fanbase
Thats what happened with Star Wars Battlefront 2015
it was designed to be sold to everyone. So they dumbed down the gameplay
IF you take me as aggressive i apologize.
Not aggressive, but often times people who have meaning seem forceful.
also the sales figures reached fine for bf2 and they still cut off live support
I hate that I can't uninstall BF1 because I have no idea if they're gonna do "Surprise, here's something for BFV!" So, I guess I am playing... I dunno, Garry's Mod, Ravenfield, maybe Roblox, I have no fucking clue.
Should I buy BFV?
Think on it
so that makes no sense because you state that bfv would die if sales went down
go for it, up to you
Wait to buy BF5
Read up oon it @willow creek
itll go on sale
I already pre-ordered it
ugh
I wanted to buy it on christmas
Beta sold me on gameplay
My milsim says they are going to move to BFV
dont ever preorder games guys it doesnt help anything
So might as well get it for Christmas
that's interesting spooky
Im buying it on day -11
Yeah, it's about the same as regularly buying it here
I’m not preordering it hell no
I know what I am getting into it
So, might as well buy ahead of time and get in earlier
My time is worth more than a meaningless discount
wait
do you think at all - the game can indeed suceed
or are you talking about certain buts that can happen
Lol
but didin't bf4 have worse rep?
nope
It did
bf4 at launch was awful tho.
Just stop.
I doubt tha t it'll flop
Y’all remember Commander Mobile
Don't buy into it if the game fails
Y'all remember 1942?
it was also nothing else but a marketing scheme of levolution and a continuation / reskin of bf3
Everyone remembers 1942 obviously
Why even buy it at a discount
it had nothing really new to the table
3 was better than 4, change my mind
except levolution
True but why fix something that isnt broken?
NO HUMVEES >:((
I enjoyed BF4 the most, interestingly enough
it removed some core mechanics, like airfields
Yikes
Bad company made me hard
well i respect this opinion
Only reason why I was captivated by bf4 was because I was new to the series
at the time
I enjoyed Bad Company 2
and the levolution thing is a good marketing tactic
Yeah same
ehh
On the 360 I enjoyed the campaign
They dont use the term levolution anymore
The bugs were the only thing I didn’t like
Destructive Environments
it's strange people want to go back to 1942 but also love bfbc2
bc2 was a fuck you to the PC gaming community at the time, mind you
Rather, a different approach
BFV is kinda going back to 1942
Is Project reality still a thing?
For the most part
Ya
Vietnam was a Reskin tbh
I with they had modding / invested some time
for the newer ones btw
Why do you guys think the series doesn't have modding nowadays
The gunplay was the sore on 1942 and Vietnam though
BFBC2 had backlash hell yeah. DICE was trying to stick guns in dlc and shit and people flipped
so they made all the dlc free
okay so wait
with modding and all
I think it's really because modding is really hard to implement for frostbite
Hey did it for BF2
they removed self hosting servers and modding after bf2
which was a huge issue with the community
yeah but there has to be an actual reason besides "ea hates the player"
now that i think of it every battlefield had some fucking bullshit arount it lol
the reason was money buddy
It can't be because they're anti consumer because think about it
Milsim is probably dead for BF
yes
you can gain a profit off dedicated servers you "rent" from them only
they would take a cut of the servers we would rent
they would probably make it so that you bought server software if it were truly possible
They could have easily done that
wtf is server software lol?
???
"Come back when ya get some money buddy! [Maniacal Laughter]"
👉🏼 YES
I love Bioshock
dedicated server software is needed to run servers my guy
that's how you literally have player run servers
no
Just wish they weren't called Big Daddy's lmao
you arent following
DICE took away self hosted servers from the community after bf2
they wanted us to go through them to rent them
BF4 server thumbnails with asses
this was so they can get a cut of the server rentals
I know they could have instead had a system where you bought software for running dedicated servers
but they didin't for other reasons
Well now their no dlc pass so its ok by me
Fuck that would be horrible to play
Also bf servers might be very intensive to run
lol
No gay ass premium pass
I bought a server once on bf4 when they first came out
yes but dice has no obligation to make future content if the game doesnt sell well
It was bad
what
My friends would always leave me out because I didn’t have Final Stand or Second assault
^^^
you're switching back to the bfv argument?
we're talking about servers
and modding
Cas they had issues so i had a server i could not do admin stuff to lol
I'm not arguing anything. This is fact bud
Their maps require alot of fucking people to work on
have you seen the screenshots of them
?????
Just picturing Drunkkz3 whipping all the other playtesters atm
like its a business they make money off of you
It’s a company
Yup
You do know that Premium Pass guaranteed content right?
Companies are designed to sell you something
It’s not like WW3 with a indie development team
btw, I just realized nothing is stopping you from towing an enemy which can lead to some real trolling
And so? Dice was still a company back then and they did modding
they weren't at all an indie company
and EA was in control of them at that time too
Wait nvm
sorry
It’s alright mate
Again what are you trying to achieve
Dude you're literally posting the same points over and over
Besides stirring up shit
They are valid points 😃
lol
I remember hearing EA Games challenge everything in my childhood thanks to Battlefield 1942 and MOH, so...
Here comes the name calling

What are we even discussing anymore
The internet, where everyone is a master in the field of whatever the conversation is based on
Good old bf 1942

Can we just be hyped for a decent shooter, finally
its called armchair game developers lol
Back when dlc was on disk
That's what everyone is in this day and age
I'm done dude
Bf road to rome
I'm dropping out of the convo
@tight kettle Yeah i was until i was told i needed to tell my daughter women didnt fight for the US in WWII lol
@solid hinge Are you a game Dev?
Lol
Not an AAA game dev but I have worked on indie games in the past
Cool
Majoring in CS
So you know how shitty EA is
going to minor in Game Development
For some reason BFV doesn’t really feel like WW2 to me
I get it now
YOu majored in COUNTER STRIKE?
Okay, what is the best form of data storage for a multiplayer game, thats not local?
Bf vietnam omg
This is political to you
^^^
I don't know
hahahaha
EA is shitty but hey, fuck it, the game is fun
Que the Michael Jakson gif eating popcorn
Okay, what is the best form of local storage, for a single player game?
At the end of the day, we are all just a bunch of smelly nerds that play video games
I wish i was smelly
I'd get that for ya right now but I am not feeling in the mood to type in "Michael Jackson Popcorn"
^^^^
Go to tech
Jerry jerry jerry
Celestial World’s fastest Typer 2018
Typer not Tyler what the fuck?
What does that mean? @willow creek 
I did not ask that
@solid hinge
and secondly you need to serialize whatever data goes into your save files
My fastest wpm is like 98 but I am fucking tired

So it's like 68 or whatever
you're asking me very generic questions
I like serial
What's your favorite?
I do not expect you to know the answers to even basic questions
OWNED
You have to start somewhere
Like, how the fuck would I know about multicore requirements? First of all, it depends on the game you're making
Just called him stupid and I can't even tell if you meant it
YOu worked on a indie game no?
Oh my 
OR did you just play it?
What game bruv?
it's a little side project
name
no it's not released
what
Dont shit on me when im being genuine as you defend a fortune 500 company
Wew
that shits on its consumer
this seems like a general chat
I used to skin DOD and CS1.6 back in the day. Does that make me a game developer?
At this point yes
Tumblr But battlefield
I skin MINECRAFT, get on my level
on a napkin you do im sure
so please move the convo if ya could
WEW
What engine does tf2 run?
Source???
Pretty sure this is considered personal attacking
Can you leave me alone dude
He's probably talking about BFV 😄
yea the other V is off limits for a week
Rip
that sucks
Me too friend
Okay what exactly do you mean I can't really tell
@pure veldt You rang?
are you talking about...
😉
The V?
The V doesnt ring
the vagina
whoa whoa whoa
Wait what
damn nick you believe these guys?
No pls
Who told you that word @solid hinge ? You are not old enough to know that
Oh great

;-*
Luv you too
Stop being annoying
Annoying is poor word to describe this situation right now bud
This is #battlefield-legacy-titles not #cringecompilation2018
Dude he was talking about you lmao
omg
alright you're a legend
no
blocked
im sick and rocket league requires too much attention
Well you can always settle for some other games
my wife just came in and flipped me off both barrels for no reason
A double barreled shotgun?
sorry about the V joke btw
Its okay
I love how on topic this chat is 
i didnt cause her V to do this, but alas im a man
its 10:30pm CT
topic rules are gone
until someone says something battlefieldy
this whole discord is oor
I'll start
my wife did
😉
I really like the attrition mechanics
Friends and I are actively looking for games to kill time but everything is boring
They make teamplay more dependent and tight
^
Same tbh
@solid hinge Didnt you hear? The attrition mechanics got delayed. They're in the roadmaps now 😉
@tight kettle have you tried Scum?
No. I don't see it being anywhere near worthy
now now, no post release jokes
It got super popular right before black out came up
then it dropped super hard
looked cool tho
its BR
Nothing special about it to me tbh
but i think without borders right?
thats why you stay away from AAA title ideas
Pubg is/was also popular. But terrible.
2 games ill never load on my machine, PUBG and Minecraft
pubg is my favorite out of them all but yes its horribly buggy at times
Minecraft is good with like 50 mods
i actually really dont care for Fortnite. Its too meh and faddy now
The only thing pubg does perfectly is simulate ALS
ALS?
@pure veldt what exactly is wrong with minecraft on your machine
lmao
Ah I see
^^^^
i only have 1.5 modes, kill .. and achieve
FTB Minecraft is a classic
pubg requires patience
Tekkit Classic is better imo
fk.. that
Minecraft is fun. The new addons for dungeons coming out looked cool
it has some cool shit
Terraria is 👌 too
terraria is amazing yes
i also cannot play any games that punish me for dying since i have a family
#battlefield-legacy-titles is now #minecraft now it seems 
BR will never be a thing
BR is a thing now lol
I reckon the same with milsims
@icy sluice as it should be
for me
Meinkraft
I asusme you play battlefield right
@pure veldt i like you
short and sweet messages
wonderful counter
to the hissy fits from earlier
im a programmer, i need bullet points
fluff in messages annoys me
I am depressed I need bullets
dont fluff me
Zoz
I'm a programmer I need a Bullet.class
ill fluff your fluff
fluff harder
Fluff helps you get over that word count for your essay
which is used by Gun.class
FluffING
Dude word count is my fluffing jam son
my old manager used to tell me i would fluff
Now i work in finance lol
😛
@pure veldt Dont respond hes baiting
I did comp sci for a whole semester
Then ran out of money and got a job, and haven't looked back
its ok im a shark
Majic is a game programmer
For EA? 🤔
Fuck graphics though. Only coding
fk no, AAA is satan
@pure veldt I'm waiting for you to eat the Minnow
Yeah that seems to be the gist I get
Just make aaaa games
jumps out of water and eats entire fisherman
Just make double A games, they're more useful
i write c... # games
I want to learn c++
no you dont
lol
Ya I do
I write my games in swift 
C++ and python
I want to play in ue4
popular recs right now
To be fair it's becoming less and less popular
unless it's ue4 stuff
surely you can use blueprints though
just use blueprints and move on with your life, learn C++ after you realize ue4 isnt for indie
companies still like that you know C++
unity is easier to get started in and has a lot of assets to just prototype quickly
meh..
Majicpanda have you used winforms before?
I was planning on using it for a settings thing for a game
no, i literally went from web dev CSS PHP etc all my life to C# game dev
Im not good enough at math to make my own engines
fk math
nick it's not that hard
Guy. Games = math
really, as long as you know algebra and trig you're good
isnt engine building a group collab? Idt single individuals make engines
What?
MIS major
Tell that to John carmack
Ohh
i literally just know c# and released a game with knowing zero math.. you do not need math to make a game
He will shit in your cereal and call you babydoll
dont care what anyone says
Unity is good
fk writing math
I needed some algebra and at best basic trig for targeting and stuff
yea i mean its stellar for 95% of devs
yup
the top tier go to ue4 eventually
but that requires C++ and a much worse community and available assets
basically ue4 = good luck you're on your own
Just make your own OS to post it on
maybe they have a better networking lib i dunno
Ah escape from tarkov. From what i understand the devs are very limited with the game because of unity and wish they didnt use it
unity networking is trash
I think max players for unity is less than unreal
It also has zero AA filters from what i was reading
i got a 20v20 working no problem without optimization for a top down shooter
Unity is for girls
Squad runs like shit. Great game though
but yea, in unity you'd want to stop around 64 like BF
Depends on the game
nope, all data kept under 1200 bytes per packet
Bf unity engine confirmed
if it's a 3d game then 64 might be too much
nah you just nee this networking asset called Bolt
i had auth servers, rounds changing, carrying to new map, intermission
so do people use that all the time or do game studios make their own lb
real good proto
Seriously though. What is a decent source to learn c#
There is an app on android that helps yo learn c#
Probably look at some books or take a course
if you're in college there's a good change they have c#
I know some css/javascript/action script from when flash was a thing
i didnt bother learning any C#, i just started doing tutorials and learning what i need to make games
Java or C#
learning all of C# ahead of time wouldnt have helped me, but that's just my learning style
and maybe C++ if you're doing unreal
I will write it down
wtf
I was lying that's not true
but they're fairly similar
