battlefield-legacy-titles

[frozen knoll]

nope

maybe this year

[sacred junco]

but the issue BF has cannot entirely be explained away by copying CoD

[frozen knoll]

last year was the other way tho

[solid hinge]

they cant be compared

[dense bone]

no it cant, and no one is saying that

[frozen knoll]

i'm comparing the sells

chill your balls guys

[solid hinge]

its personal preferance

[frozen knoll]

they are different games even if they are both fps shooters

[solid hinge]

if you enjoy one

or the tother

[frozen knoll]

BUT

I SAID

FANS COMPARE THAT

[icy sluice]

caps pls

[frozen knoll]

look how many articles about cod having more pre orders than bf

sorry todd

i'll make it work

[sacred junco]

THe issue is people are comparing the two under the assumption that CoD is bad influence exclusively

[solid hinge]

That’s how it is cod sells more than battlefield

[frozen knoll]

no

[solid hinge]

That’s how it’s always been

i wont compare pre orders

[frozen knoll]

nope

[icy sluice]

I'm surprised how many people know it's Todd behind the clever disguise

[solid hinge]

EA has sucked when first releasing

[frozen knoll]

bf1 compared to the cod of that year?

boi

[solid hinge]

people are going to be more aware

[sacred junco]

BF can happily take stuff from CoD and not have it as a negative influence

[solid hinge]

Ok but what about every other year besides that

[frozen knoll]

i don't know

[solid hinge]

for ps3 whars error 80710016?

[dense bone]

when did we get sales numbers for ww2?

[frozen knoll]

not sales numbers

pre order numbers

[dense bone]

i dont give a shit about pre order numbers

[solid hinge]

It’s cod of course more people get drawn to it besides in 2016 with bf1 and infinite warfare

[dense bone]

as anyone else should

[frozen knoll]

people refunded the preorder for bfV

[dense bone]

once again, dont care

[frozen knoll]

lmao ok

[solid hinge]

I need help

[frozen knoll]

still it's like looking at sales

[solid hinge]

for ps3 whars error 80710016?

[icy sluice]

80085

[solid hinge]

Preorders don’t determine the final sales of a game

[tight kettle]

what's zeebrugge's last stage of the map about

[frozen knoll]

infinity war has something to say

[solid hinge]

.........

for ps3 whars error 80710016?

Infinite warfare sold 1.8 million copies in the first week

I looked it up

EA will have worse preorders, people will be cautious because of battlefront and how badly it flopped

[frozen knoll]

rookie numbers for that franchise

[dense bone]

anyone looking at pre order to determine anything besides pre orders is obviously wrong

[icy sluice]

Problem connecting to the internet @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

It’s still decent but definitely not the usual amount cod sells

[icy sluice]

It took me two seconds to google it and find out

[dense bone]

at this point i dont even know what people are trying to argue

so mish mash

[frozen knoll]

i was telling you this

like bf doesnt look towards cod to match their success?

their fans usually do

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice uhh..your error isnt the same as mine

[frozen knoll]

and then you started arguing

for some reasons

but k

[icy sluice]

https://www.playstation.com/en-au/get-help/help-library/error-codes/80710016/

[dense bone]

sorry, but is english your first language?

[frozen knoll]

no

[dense bone]

i think this is causing some problems

not trying to attack you for having multiple languages

i only speak english and applaud you for knowing more than 1

[frozen knoll]

yea ok but by saying that sentence

like bf doesnt look towards cod to match their success?

[dense bone]

yea, idk what you are trying to say with that sentence

[frozen knoll]

i undearstand that battlefield doesn't comepte with cod

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice then what was the random numbers you had and is this a ban?

[frozen knoll]

to match their success

[solid hinge]

Cod looks to bf to match their success as well, both games stole something from each other

[frozen knoll]

compete*

then i said

[solid hinge]

And both games stole something currently popular on the market

[dense bone]

being #1 and #2 fps, you are competing

[frozen knoll]

maybe noit battlefield (so ea and dice)

[icy sluice]

I just googled this and those were the first two results ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frozen knoll]

but their fans like to "make them compete"

[rose pilot]

That's competition for you.

[dense bone]

they compete

[frozen knoll]

nah not for me

i like bf

[solid hinge]

You can’t compare battlefield and cod to the same standards, they’re different games

[frozen knoll]

cod maps are too tiny

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice so its a ban then?

[sacred junco]

true since BFBC2

[icy sluice]

I keep thinking Peter's avatar is sometimes animated

[frozen knoll]

infact i said then

[solid hinge]

Both games have different game design

[frozen knoll]

fans don't compare mechaincs and stuff

they look at the sales

[pseudo saffron]

this conversations looks like deja vu. weren't you guys talking about this 2 hours ago

[frozen knoll]

and confront

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge You just can't connect, that's it

Deja Vu! I have been in this place before!

[frozen knoll]

mechanincs*

[dense bone]

to say they dont compete means no one says they would have to decide which money to put towards one game or the other

[frozen knoll]

doing lots of typos sorry

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice why i im on my xone

[dense bone]

mario competes with bf

[icy sluice]

Higher on the street and I know it's my turn to go!

[frozen knoll]

ofc

[dense bone]

because no one has infinite money

they compete

[frozen knoll]

that's more than natural

[dense bone]

doesnt matter if they are the same or completely different, they determine where money goes

where finite money is spent

they are competing for that money

[frozen knoll]

yes

that was the point i was trying to make with my broken english

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice what is it was i ban from psn or is it network error?

[icy sluice]

Network error, third time I have said this

[dense bone]

your english is pretty solid, i just dont know if something this "complicated" can be expressed through text well in general

[icy sluice]

Also, don't think PSN is going to ban someone using a PS3.

[frozen knoll]

dunno

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice so its not a ban correct?

[icy sluice]

Network error

[solid hinge]

Yes or no

...

no

network error

[magic pebble]

That's trailer is joke

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge....not asking you

[icy sluice]

Oof, I saw a bunch of caps and then nothing

[fossil canopy]

[magic pebble]

Only females

[icy sluice]

Looks like someone used a blocked word

[solid hinge]

then why ask it in a chat where multiple people are talking

[icy sluice]

No, there was one female

Well two

Most were guys

[magic pebble]

And black

[icy sluice]

Yes

That's the Sangalese or whatever

[magic pebble]

3 white men

[icy sluice]

Congrats, you're learning

[magic pebble]

That's joke

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice its not a ban right?

[icy sluice]

mhm, yep

[solid hinge]

who cares? its based off ww2, not a simulation!

[icy sluice]

Congratulations, you're seeing different sides of the war my friend

[solid hinge]

The history is true in the new trailer

[magic pebble]

Ww 2 and only females And Black soliders...

[icy sluice]

You are actually being educated in a movie style way, congratulations

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice so im ok?

[icy sluice]

Yes, War Stories

[solid hinge]

French army had 200,000 blacks

[sullen mist]

I mean, the French Sengalese soldier existed so

[solid hinge]

Females did fight in the resistance for Norway

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge Yes, it's just a network error

[solid hinge]

There were 4 young female resistance leaders

thank you

[sullen mist]

K

[icy sluice]

Females - Norway Resistance War Story
Black People - French Sangalese
White - Germans and others
Remember what War Stories is

[solid hinge]

Anne-Sofie Østvedt was a resistance leader for Norway

It’s also advertised to be told from the lesser known stories of ww2

[icy sluice]

Plus, I'd be really fucking bored if War Stories was the same Normandy Landing stuff we get in every WWII shooting game

[solid hinge]

So I don’t know what you’re on about

[rough smelt]

he's already gone

[icy sluice]

Medal of Honor did it like three times, CoD did it like twice

1942 had Omaha

[rough smelt]

SoldatenToday at 5:02 PM
he's already gone``` :V

[sacred junco]

I'm interested to see what the Sangalese one is gonna be like

[icy sluice]

He's actually uneducated, hurray I can say something like that and mean it

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge tnx sorry i was rude the error just upset me..my xone is fine though..how do i fix it on my ps3?

[icy sluice]

I don't even know how to properly say Sangalese :v

[solid hinge]

Technically I’m starting to think people are actually uneducated about ww2

[sacred junco]

Looks like it is a legitimately unknown side of the war. Free France barely gets representation as it is

[solid hinge]

I’m not surprised

[sacred junco]

I was happy that they added Italians in BF1

[icy sluice]

It'd be fucking great if we get one war story or something whenever a Tide comes in

[sacred junco]

Though disappointed that Austro Hungarians were copy pasted Germans

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice how do i fix it?

[icy sluice]

Just check connection or whatever

[solid hinge]

k

[icy sluice]

Like if a Tide covers Germany taking over France or whatever, we get a War Story about this French Resistance fighter or something idk

Oh shit, wait

Co-Op

A gang of resistance fighters, nice.

[hybrid stirrup]

Wheres the oil, scrubs.

[sullen mist]

Oh that Putin profile pic guy is gone

I wonder why/s

[icy sluice]

Gotta take Sinai Desert

[hybrid stirrup]

[solid hinge]

@sullen mist he’s actually uneducated about ww2

Like legit he doesn’t know history

[icy sluice]

"It's all Woman!" Two girls were shown

[sullen mist]

It's funny when Patrick Sodurland's words sometimes actually highlight certain members of the Battlefield community

Not all of them but yeah

[solid hinge]

Patrick Söderlund’s words actually highlights the comments of the new trailer of war stories

And are they really true battlefield fans

[hybrid stirrup]

I need my oil.

For my A-10

[icy sluice]

"All these black soldiers!"
Yeah, gee, I wonder why there are a bunch of dark skinned soldiers in this platoon that actually existed that featured people like that.

[hybrid stirrup]

Also need to get some oil for the JDAM

Drop that on some Lvl 1s

[icy sluice]

Frankly, it’s bewildering that such a valuable resource should be buried in the bloody desert.

[sullen mist]

What if

The invasion of Iraq actually happened because of the sole purpose to feed their A-10s oils

And if the US refused

The A-10 will cause multiple crack epidemics

[hybrid stirrup]

Nah we needed the oil

For our A-10s

[icy sluice]

GTA added the A-10 didn't they?

[sullen mist]

Yep

The B-11 Strikeforce

It can take like alot of AA missiles

[icy sluice]

Just got the Savage

[lean ledge]

Boi!

[sullen mist]

I have the Oppressor mk2

[solid hinge]

GTA? as in grand theft auto?

[sullen mist]

It's the only thing I bought that I unironically enjoy despite being a grief machine

[pulsar valve]

#general

[solid hinge]

yes sir

i found a post on the forums saying what the war stories are

well some of them

[pure veldt]

was there an actual technical reason to delay BFV or was it a good marketing tactic to avoid BLOPS4 and Red Dead?

[sacred junco]

probably a bit of both

[icy sluice]

Did you see the beta?

[sacred junco]

mostly latter I assume

[pure veldt]

sure, seemed like any other beta 😄

month 1 = open beta

[sacred junco]

Animation had goofier issues

[icy sluice]

I saw like several flying half-tracks

[lean ledge]

I said Boi!

[pure veldt]

eh im sure we were seeing a well dated build though

bf4 had some hilarious beta issues with physics and tanks shooting into space

[sacred junco]

Think the tirailleurs campaign kinda explains why guns like the RSC is in the game

They'd probably be the group to get janky surplus weapons

[pure veldt]

its tough for me to have enough patience to play a campaign before going right into MP to start unlocking stuff

i prob only got like 20% into BFront 2's

[sullen mist]

Yeah that's actually a probable explanation why the RSC is ingame, Krag Jorgensen as well since there's a Norwegian perspective

[sacred junco]

1907 is rather inexcusable still

[sullen mist]

Selby 1916 I still have no clue where or when the Germans would have used that, maybe as training rifles or something

[sacred junco]

there was a /r/askhistorian thread in about someone's ancestor who was a reservist in during the last years of WW1 in Germany and he was scared that the black powder weaponry he was given could land him trouble in war tribunals

[jade oriole]

WWII you mean?

[sacred junco]

Nah I think it was WW1

But I guess somehow volksstrums could've gotten Selby 1916s on their hand... somehow?

[sullen mist]

I mean it's possible, were G98's issued to Volkstrumms? If so there's a slim chance they may have gotten their hands on selbys, either that or the Luftwaffe/Kriegsmarine may have just been given them as training rifles for a drill of some kind, who knows

War is mysterious, iirc soldiers in Afghanistan in the 21st century discovered Martini Henry's belonging to Afghan soldier/rebels of some kind

[sacred junco]

I mean they found working Renaults

[sullen mist]

Iraqi soldiers used ww2 vehicles procured from the ww2 Anglo Invasion of Iraq as well against NATO troops as well

[sacred junco]

http://toofatlardies.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=3770&sid=fa36bc776a32c6e11229963a1c10b25b&start=10

kinda interesting

Looks like Free French were mostly furnished by US and British equipment by 1943-1944

[zinc vessel]

Speaking on the A-10s. Those motherfuckers are amazing

[solid hinge]

I’m still recovering from the brain cells I lost reading the comments in the new trailer for war stories

Like that’s how stupid it’s gotten

[sullen mist]

iirc the French colonial troops moved away from traditional Adrian helmets and trench clothes and moved onto white kepis and yeah mostly British/American uniforms late war

[zinc vessel]

lol

[sullen mist]

Kinda sad, really liked the Adrian helmet and blue trench Poilus uniforms

[sacred junco]

the forum does mention that they did try to keep the helmets on for a bit longer for the colonials

tho thats forum post as proof

[sullen mist]

Interesting

Wonder what Vichy colonials wore

[boreal sail]

Vichy colonials? dude there are german propaganda videos calling colonial troops savages

[sacred junco]

Probably should read more about France during WW2

They still used em in the colonies I bet

[boreal sail]

Mostly black colonial troops but northern african troops didnt get a much better treatment

[tight kettle]

colon

[sacred junco]

feels like french colonials troops got the worst treatment out of all other colonial armies in the 20th century

[boreal sail]

Yes because france was totally conquered

[sacred junco]

Feels like France had the messiest post-ww2 colony cleanup

I guess Belgium too but at least its only Congo

Doesn't help that De Gaulle seemed to have wanted to keep the colonial schtick

[zinc vessel]

I also lost brain cells from the trailer. Comments I mean

[sullen mist]

@boreal sail Franco Thai war used Vichy colonials

[sacred junco]

that war sounds like a mess of a situation

Vichy Colonial Indochina vs. Thai sounds like a headache for Japan

[sullen mist]

They basically saw how much of a poor job the French were doing maintaining their colony against Thailand and decided to step in and occupy French Indochina for the duration of the war

I mean, that's my pov

[zinc vessel]

Why do all of the idiots feel the need to go on a video about something they aren't going to play, and spout off stupid shit that is wrong?

[sacred junco]

can't be helped

[rough smelt]

idiots

there's your answer

[zinc vessel]

tru

[sacred junco]

Now I want to read books on colonial possessions during ww2

[sullen mist]

I need more info on French soldiers in ww2

[sacred junco]

Always curious about what the Dutch colonists felt like during WW2

[sullen mist]

So much stuff that I find interesting about them despite the memery that goes on with their military to this day

[zinc vessel]

I wish they were as interested in this as you guys are

The idiots I mean

[sullen mist]

Well they prefer to refer to the Senegalese soldiers as made up people without knowing what the state of France was like in ww2

[zinc vessel]

Yeah

[sullen mist]

I've seen people complain about the Indian soldiers in bf1

[zinc vessel]

They just want a reason to bitch

[sacred junco]

There are a lot of weird sideline things going on in ww2 that probably doesn't warrant attention

I mean I still don't like the African German soldier inBF1

Its a little too much even for me

[sullen mist]

I mean yeah that was weird

[sacred junco]

especially when one of them was a cavalry uint

[zinc vessel]

All they want is the generic German vs American part starting with D-Day

[sullen mist]

If it was a reference to the Askaris then they would need their traditional East African colonial uniforms

[sacred junco]

and be in East Africa

[sullen mist]

^

[sacred junco]

Which could've been cool

[sullen mist]

Yeah I wouldn't have minded more Desert maps

In fact a WW1 depiction of the African front

That would be nice

[sacred junco]

DIce could've gone full SJW and made a more authentic game

but got the weird mishmash that ended up with people arguing that they added minorities in a white mans war

[zinc vessel]

No we don't want them to go full sjw

[sacred junco]

could've got Spike Lee to make a campaign or something

[sullen mist]

The guy who tried to sue Clint Eastwood for making objectively better ww2 movies?

[sacred junco]

Yeah but at least it got him to try to make a movie about black soldiers in a more authentic setting

granted I haven't seen Miracle of Santa Anna/Barbara

and I know it hasn't gotten great reviews

[sullen mist]

Yeah it hasn't sadly

I'd actually want someone to make a movie on the Indian soldiers of ww1/ww2

[sacred junco]

Im sure it exists in India

with a Dance Number

[sullen mist]

And a force love interest who happens to be the best looking Bollywood actress in India

[sacred junco]

while the protagonist is a slightly chubby man with a moustache

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanche

[sullen mist]

And there's a quirky even chubbier bearded buddy who appears alongside the protagonist to act as the drunk comical relief

'Promoted as Telugu cinema's first World War II-based film'
Not sure why but I still find that surprising despite not knowing much about Telugu culture

Can't wait to make my bfV character model into that guy lol

https://youtu.be/UqhrfKnAfnQ

Also this trailer Jesus

[sacred junco]

that German t-34

[sullen mist]

I swear the protagonist is holding a Ppsh

[sacred junco]

Italy was a mishmash

they could've just made the game set in Italy and add all the ethnicities they wanted to

[sullen mist]

That's possible

I think alot of SS foreign legions fought in Italy

Including the Flying Tigers

I just hope that concept art of the SAS/LRDG jeep being strafed by the M.C 202 is future plans for a map set in Italy or more maps featuring the Italians

[sacred junco]

I don't expect much out of BF for adding more interesting theaters and concepts unfortunately

I liked the beta enough so I will get it, but I am not personally a fan of the weird 1940s only base release

and the weird inclusion of ww1 prototypes alongside Volkssturmgewher

[zinc vessel]

Well. It's all a part of their tides of war thing

[sacred junco]

Yeah but if it doesn't sell well we may not get the things everyone wants

DDays and Kursks and all

tho I won't mind no DDay

I do want Pacific

[sullen mist]

I'm getting mostly due to the actual enjoyment I had with friends since the squad mechanics were actually fun for us, I have mixed opinions of tides of war but I will wait until the roadmap comes next week (apparently) to get a better opinion of it

[zinc vessel]

I really want Pacific

[sullen mist]

Like bf 1 with friends was just not that fun for me

Same

[sacred junco]

If Dice just adds exclusively meme fronts tho that'd be funny

[sullen mist]

Not sure if the Battle of the Aleutian Islands counts as a Pacific battle but I want that as a map

[sacred junco]

No US or Russian, but add factions like Brazilians and Soviet Mongols

[zinc vessel]

I want Iwo Jima and Okinawa. Maybe even Battle of Midway

[sacred junco]

I want Sino Japanese War

[zinc vessel]

Yeah

[sullen mist]

I want all the wars of ww2

[zinc vessel]

Same lol

[sacred junco]

Wish ZH-29 was a hint towards that

but Sino-Japanese War is a can of giant worms

[sullen mist]

It would be pretty controversial

I mean alot of censorship for the KMT faction would potentially happen

[sacred junco]

But I think the state mostly accepts the contributions of KMT during the war

and kinda acknowledge tacitly that they didn't do much

[sullen mist]

Maybe

[sacred junco]

tho I should read up on it more

but anything with Japan

is trobule in Asia

[sullen mist]

I think the Chinese client of warthunder actually has the KMT flag

[zinc vessel]

All we can do right now is wait and hope

[sacred junco]

KMT troops should be fun to customize too. Give em everything from leadlease equipments to German helmets

but yeah

doubt it

[sullen mist]

It's very unlikely imo, I mean unless they include them as cosmetics in Japanvs Allies/Russia maps even though alot of people would potentially dislike that, but a nice thought

Since it seems like due to how cosmetic driven this game is, it's kinda unlikely to see very minor ww2 nations as sole factions in a map or two

[sacred junco]

yeah I am kinda afraid that US and Brits are gonna be cobbled together as western allies

[sullen mist]

I think they already did it

[sacred junco]

they have said so for now, but that's also if US is gonna be in in the first place

[zinc vessel]

We also need Wake Island

[sullen mist]

For some reason in one of the customisation previews of a British soldier she was apparently wearing a US uniform with a Brody on top

[icy sluice]

Woke Island 👌🏼

[sacred junco]

game is about as authentic as Blops1 already anyways

[zinc vessel]

Hey blops1 was fun at least

so we got that goin for us

[sacred junco]

G11s in Vietnam:Sturmtiger in Norway

[sullen mist]

I gotta admit, the British commando character model in Blops1 during the flashback sequence was really cool

[zinc vessel]

I don't really care. I just love battlefield, and I just want to play it

[sacred junco]

yeah that's the spirit

[zinc vessel]

Yeah

And especially after I get a new desktop with a sexy gtx 1080 I am never going to stop playing it

[sullen mist]

even though I find the creative choice of weapons and vehicles a little jarring due to anachronistic reasons, I would still play this game because with friends it actually amplified the fun compared to bf1

[sacred junco]

BF is an awkward game that could've gone more Arcadey or Realistic from BF2 and decided to go more Arcadey

PR and Squad became the Realistic side of that coin flip

[sullen mist]

I mean, after bf2 I don't think the game was going to ever want to be as realistic as a game like Insurgency Sandstorm

Since the contrast between bf1942 and bf2 is surprisingly more different than I expected

[sacred junco]

My personal scale of arcade to milsim goes BF-Insurgency-RO-Squad-Arma

[zinc vessel]

Ugh Arma

[sacred junco]

and BF is through and through an arcade game where you can casually plug-and-play

Insurgency is probably a bit different game from the rest tho

[zinc vessel]

It mixes arcade and realistic

[sullen mist]

It fits a niche of people who really like old school Source engine fps games and those who prefer a realistic military shooter

Since Insurgency and DOI are practically mods of mods of mods of mods of mods of some old source game from the early 2000s

[sacred junco]

Its more of a small scale realistic version of CS:GO imo

with frictionless knee pad

[sullen mist]

Basically in a way, despite being more realistic and hardcore, it isn't as competitive as CSGO which I actually like about insurgency alot

[sacred junco]

Thats the thing

Realistic games aren't competitive

Games meant to simulate reality won't really reach pure competitiveness of a sports game

[zinc vessel]

Bf is that game that satisfies me every time, but somehow manages to piss me off a lot. I love it

[dense bone]

because realistic leads to playing too safe, and is also inherently boring from a competitive pov

[sacred junco]

Siege works well enough with realistic damage model tho

ofcourse that's a much smaller scale objective oriented game

[dense bone]

and still not even close to being realistic

[zinc vessel]

True

[sacred junco]

But at the same time I never liked BF4 because everything felt too hyper tuned

Everyone was really fast and really accurate and deadly

[dense bone]

not to mention in siege bullets shoot from the scope xD

[zinc vessel]

I never got a chance to play bf4. I played bf3 tho

[sullen mist]

I mean the main thing I disliked about bf4 was the map design and the overabundance of fire and forget missiles which I felt was a more legit reason to complain about the game than the accurate firing guns with the tap fire spam

[sacred junco]

Its hard to tell what the game is supposed to be like now

I played early on and didn't like it due to the maps

and now I can't play most expansion maps and most servers are customized

Sure do wanna play a Shanghai 24/7 with instaspawn vehicles and inf

[solid hinge]

Guys

[sacred junco]

I only kinda liked Paracel out of the base maps

[solid hinge]

Is it easy to introduce yourself into BF 4?

[sacred junco]

Ehh

[sullen mist]

Eh I guess so?

[sacred junco]

Its an old hat game now

lots to unlock

veterans with 100* vehicles are pretty omnipresent

[sullen mist]

I mean you will be greeted by some Uber try hard vets on that game, but I still think the learning curve isn't that hard to learn

[solid hinge]

Lol xD

Then I should wait for BF V

[sacred junco]

Guess you can just grind it out in Metro/Locker servers

[solid hinge]

I can't take try-hards xD

@sacred junco Yeah

[sacred junco]

Try hards will always exist tho

[sullen mist]

I mean that shouldn't entirely detract you from playing bf4 alone because it is still surprisingly a good game despite its annoying flaws

[sacred junco]

BF4 has been my least favorite entry I played myself

But that's just me

[solid hinge]

How is BF 4 compared to BF 1?

[upbeat adder]

HELP

when im using attack plane there is only ground support package, no other packages there for me to select

[sullen mist]

Bf1 ended up being one of my favourites to one of my sorta least favourites

[zinc vessel]

I don't get the whole try hard thing. They enjoy it and they want to be as good as they can. So why does that make them a try hard? my opinion but whatever

[sacred junco]

It does get try hard when admin runs a 24/7 shanghai server with no lock ons and gets on a chopper all game

[zinc vessel]

Now that is annoying

I would definitely say that person is a dick

[sullen mist]

I mean yea everyone has their own playstyles but someone exploiting admin powers to gain an advantage definitely deserves to be dropkicked off a cliff

[zinc vessel]

lol

[sacred junco]

then you got people who got the galls to say be grateful that they are hosting a server

[solid hinge]

xD

[obsidian nimbus]

Hey Everyone! ❤

[sacred junco]

Kinda ironic this channel has pepe icons

[zinc vessel]

Hello

How are you today

[solid hinge]

Which weapon is recommended for a BF 4 beginner?

[obsidian nimbus]

i say m416 and aek and m16a4 are all my favs

[zinc vessel]

Noice pfp

[solid hinge]

Ok, time to give it a try

[zinc vessel]

If you pulled the pin on that grenade would it rip off the thumb? @obsidian nimbus

[sullen mist]

M16a4 is surprisingly good, if the m16a3 wasn't in bf3 I'd have used the a4 variant alot more

[obsidian nimbus]

@zinc vessel haha that would hurt!

[zinc vessel]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

@sullen mist it really ironic that I used the an94 when I first purchased BF 4

I got rekt

[zinc vessel]

Plus the grenade would send bone fragments flying everywhere

[obsidian nimbus]

just didnt feel right after BF3

[zinc vessel]

Hypothetically

[solid hinge]

And then I passed directly to BF 1

[obsidian nimbus]

BF3/4 is still going strong on console and PC

great to see

[solid hinge]

It's what it takes to be good games, I guess

[obsidian nimbus]

true dat

[solid hinge]

Guys, do you think there'll be a 2nd beta of BF V?

[zinc vessel]

I don't think so, but I don't know

[solid hinge]

They are making many changes and I'm wondering if they want to test them before

[obsidian nimbus]

i think it would be good for them to get another beta out before launch

[zinc vessel]

But would they have time to even fix anything?

[sullen mist]

AN-94 is apparently a good gun if you use the 2 burst shot mechanic but I never really liked using the gun since I prefer god tier weapons like the ACE-23 and the M16a4 @solid hinge

[obsidian nimbus]

ACE went down hill after a patch they done

also FAMAS is godly if you can master it

[solid hinge]

@sullen mist maybe that's why I got rekt that many times by M16 and M4

When I used to play BF 4

[sullen mist]

I liked the FAMAS in bf3 despite it being nerfed, I think it performed really well post patch

And while I do like the FAMAS in bf4, for some reason I never really use it

And maybe try out the 2 shot burst on the an-94, it could help although I'd recommend playing mid-large range matches as an an-94 assault

[obsidian nimbus]

OP Locker is your best bet

[tight kettle]

operation suckmynuts

[zinc vessel]

Nice

[thorn snow]

What was your favourite weapon in BC2? Mine's had to be the UMP45.

[amber notch]

The single player

[tight kettle]

i barely remember bc2

[amber notch]

I enjoyed bc2

[icy sluice]

Well, Xbox is down, that's great

Was gonna play a game, first they tell me about the new avatar system that 99% of the users won't care about it like a month from now and then it says the services are down.

[solid hinge]

lol

same

@icy sluice

i try on get xbox gold

but it said services are down

[thorn snow]

BC2 was brilliant, campaign was one of my favourites

[spark quarry]

didnt get that one though

anyone got an idea of how to get better at battlefield lol

since

im nub

😦

[solid hinge]

is it a good or bad thing they pushed the release back?

[spark quarry]

hmm

depends on the final game

I think

[solid hinge]

thats my question lol

[thorn snow]

I didn't like the idea of limited ammo in the Beta and limiting the medic class to SMG's and giving the Assault class rifles.

[neon loom]

Yeah I agree with the medic and assault guns

Maybe have medic be half smg and half rifles

Also, I think it is good they pushed the game back. If we get the game and it is amazing, they probably spent the extra month improving it. If we get it and it's meh or it sucks, they still were spending that time improving it

Yeah it sucks we have to wait another month (I'm going on vacation the day it comes out, of course), but I think it's for the better that we waited.

[thorn snow]

My only issue is they are trying to push for more teamwork through the limited health regen and ammo but this always backfires on me because I have incompetent teammates.

[rough smelt]

I think attrition would actually work if there weren't damn health and ammo stations at every flag

[solid hinge]

I just hope that the medic will play their part in BFV

[thorn snow]

The amount of times I would run out of ammo in mid firefight and die due to it was annoying.

[grave lagoon]

lol

@thorn snow console?

[rough smelt]

and that's supposed to give players the mentality to think before they shoot

[thorn snow]

Yes.

[rough smelt]

so you don't waste it

[dire quiver]

youtube is down

[neon loom]

I always have a big debate about this and all I'm gonna say is I like it. I never really ran out of ammo mid fight. I understand what your saying though

[dire quiver]

@rough smelt I agree

[grave lagoon]

Well, you miss more and tend to shoot longer there, since reaction time is longer

I feel you

[neon loom]

Oh it is? I thought it was just my internet

[grave lagoon]

Haven't had any problems on PC

[dire quiver]

Yeah, Youtube is down

Everyone's saying it

[solid hinge]

Huh I thought it was just me lol

[neon loom]

Why is firestorm gonna have 64 players... DICE we need to have a talk

[grave lagoon]

Yeah, they have their problems atm

[rough smelt]

Being more methodical is nice, but when I can just run over a dead player and pick up their ammo, or go to a ammo crate at a flag.... the flying fuck is the point of the support class

[thorn snow]

My x3 great uncle was a medic in WW1 so safely assured I'm a pretty good medic.

[grave lagoon]

Because servers

[dire quiver]

In the first place why does BFV have Firestorm lmao

I'm not really into the idea

[neon loom]

That's true lol

[dire quiver]

Although I'll definitely try it out

[solid hinge]

I wonder in the near future if it’s possible to bump the player count to 128

[dire quiver]

Yeah

[neon loom]

128? For conquest and stuff?

[grave lagoon]

I've played 16 vs 16 with platoon once, sqad voice chat and all, highly competitive

[dire quiver]

100 is possible and all, but action is much more spread out

[thorn snow]

BF Battle Royale just looks like they are trying to reel all the young Fortnite players in.

[grave lagoon]

most fun I've had in BF

[dire quiver]

In battle royale

There's 100

BUT

The action is spread out

So like

It isn't that intensive

[grave lagoon]

It could be good if you play with your friends who are also good in BF against other good players

[solid hinge]

64v64 sounds fun

[grave lagoon]

It's okay to be pessimistic imo

[neon loom]

I swear to God if all the little Fortnite children come in and start playing firestorm, I'm done with life

[grave lagoon]

Why? Easy kills ^^

[thorn snow]

They will trust me.

[solid hinge]

Also What you guys think of BFV single player trailer?

[thorn snow]

No but then flood the public servers.

[grave lagoon]

Fortnite is famous because it's free - which BF isn't

[rough smelt]

Firestorm is an added mode to BFV

[grave lagoon]

I don't think so

[rough smelt]

so they'd need to pay $60

good luck having them do that when the have a f2p game

[grave lagoon]

I'm curious about the Royale mode, will try it for sure

[thorn snow]

I played Fortnite a little when it came out before it became extremely popular but just didn't like the building aspect of it.

[grave lagoon]

Same

Plus hitscan

[thorn snow]

Oh yeah definitely.

[grave lagoon]

I mean, I had my PUBG moments, even though I'm not planning on starting it again

but Forklift?

no

[thorn snow]

lmao I got PUBG on console for free. Ran like shit at the start.

[grave lagoon]

Plus Fortnite doesn't have first person view

I hated that

[neon loom]

Lol what if in firestorm you could build a giant sandbag fortress in 5 seconds

[thorn snow]

Fortnite could've drawn more people in if it had H1Z1 sort of combat.

[grave lagoon]

please not

never played H1Z1

[neon loom]

I played it on ps4 it was horrible. PC looks way better

[solid hinge]

Z1 was good back in 2015 but now idk anymore

[grave lagoon]

isn't it, like... dead?

[thorn snow]

No in Firestorm you can build a snowman and it melts as the fire gets closer.

It's not dead on PS4.

[grave lagoon]

aight

well guys, have to go, cya

[thorn snow]

PC it only survived a little because it's F2P now.

[solid hinge]

I mean as a free to play game now playerbase isn’t that bad

[thorn snow]

Good night.

[solid hinge]

Not gonna lied firestorm seems interesting. I wondered what they have to offer considering I’m not a br type of person

[neon loom]

Oh goodnight

[languid flare]

I'm the only one who got a bag through in heist mode

😑

[neon loom]

?

What bag? What heist mode?

[dire quiver]

From Hardline, I think

But I never played Hardline

[neon loom]

Oh

I've only played bf

1

[dire quiver]

I played 4 and 1

Also a bit of BC1 and 1943

I played V's beta as well

[topaz dome]

so br then

[dire quiver]

Sure?

I love dark humor but I felt like it might offend some people here

[neon loom]

I remember when I went to Washington DC and to the Holocaust museum and it was pretty sad. We shouldn't joke about this stuff honestly

Yeah I feel the same

[dire quiver]

But we still do

Because

The thing is, the humor in dark humor does NOT come from the tragedy itself

Rather, it comes from the absurdity of the tragedy

[neon loom]

Is it bad Im fascinated with Nazis and Hitler

[dire quiver]

The fact that the Nazis attempted to exterminate the Jews and killed 6 million of them in the process is just absurd

[neon loom]

Like I'm not racist or anything but I just find them fascinating

I like cult and wack people type stuff

[dire quiver]

Mhm

[neon loom]

I read some thing a while ago saying that Hitler was super close to having nuclear bombs

What's the difference between a nuclear bomb and an atomic bomb

[dire quiver]

The way they're made, maybe?

But in the end they have the same purpose

Mass destruction

[torpid rivet]

how to not die in BF1?

[desert dune]

Keep this #battlefield-legacy-titles themed

[dire quiver]

Aight

[neon loom]

Sorry

[dire quiver]

Sorry

If you want, we could move the discussion to #general but I wanna talk about Battlefield now

[languid flare]

Why is it whenever I want help from teammates they're doing something stupid

[neon loom]

Ok that's fine

Omfg so I was on Argonne Forest and we were backed up in the corner trying to take E

And my team was trying to get into the underground bunker but was getting destroyed by the team inside

[languid flare]

doesnt care

[dire quiver]

Argonne Forest is just one giant grenade orgy

[neon loom]

No listen

I do care human

And so I walked behind them, and flanked the team

Easy as that

They were stupid

And I helped

I don't understand why people don't flank. I mean it might not come to mind when your in the middle of a gun fight but it was pretty easy to take them out

[dire quiver]

I see

[neon loom]

Oh dang it's 10:36 already. I should go to sleep

[dire quiver]

Lmao

[neon loom]

Goodnight

Yeah I lose track of time lol

[dire quiver]

Gn dude

[languid flare]

THIS TEAM

Not even trying to stop them from getting the bags

This is heist NOT TDM

[spark quarry]

gotta finish the road to bf5 today

-.-

im at skl though

agonne forest...

point A and B = where all shotgun campers live

point C = where all MG campers live

point D and E = where all MG and shorgun campers live

after playing the map

lmao

[grave lagoon]

conquest in bf1

I've been playing Frontlines since it got released - Rush before

[drowsy dew]

Dammit the trolls have completely overrun the single player trailer comments

I can't believe it's not even trending or at a million views when bf1s single player trailer has 12 million

[solid hinge]

I lost brain cells reading comments for the war stories trailer for battlefield v

Like what bothers me the most is that people didn’t fact check before commenting some hate

Black people did fight for the French, about 200,000 which was 9% of the French forces

[drowsy dew]

@solid hinge Ik and it sucks😔

[solid hinge]

Norwegian women did fight in the resistance and four of them were young female leaders and one of them was named Anne-Sofie Østvedt

Yeah I really hate it and I wonder what people have turned into @drowsy dew

Well it’s the internet and our generation is just getting worse and worse

[drowsy dew]

At this rate I won't get to see the Mars landing

[solid hinge]

The haters are just butthurt that dice is focusing on battles that aren’t well known in ww2. And I feel like when they think of ww2 they think of the US vs Germany, dday etc etc

You know the generic overuse battles

[drowsy dew]

@solid hinge it's because it's been established so many times they're used to it but whine if it's all they get

Or whine if they don't get it

[solid hinge]

No what’s sad is people calling it fiction or non existent @solid hinge

Hypocrites...they said the devs are disrespecting the vets while they’re doing the same thing by claiming stuff to be false when it’s true

Exactly

In the end it’s a game

Hell yeah not like black people fought for the french army

I’m just being sarcastic

What are the chance the next bf is Vietnam since they have ww1 and ww2 now.

I think it’ll be modern but Vietnam would be cool

It seems like dice is starting from the beginning again

Working their way up from historical events to modern then to the future

[split plank]

Just watched the singleplayer trailer and checked the comments section

[solid hinge]

I thought they didn’t go with a timeline before

[jovial forge]

Youtube is down, cut right off in the middle of the bfv trailer for singleplayer.

[split plank]

God its such a hell hole

[solid hinge]

I hate the comments section, actual uneducated people

I think dice is going in order now for some reason

[jovial forge]

Comments are a mixed bag

[solid hinge]

Which is cool tbh

I wouldn’t really care because the gameplay has to be good

ww1, ww2, Cold War, modern, future

[jovial forge]

So who else likes it that our harlem hellfighters and some other character models might be returning

[solid hinge]

See the pattern?

[split plank]

A tineline allows them to reuse assets from previous games which is good financial wise

[jovial forge]

I actually liked bf3s tho

[split plank]

Wouldnt say they are really bad but many are forgetful

[jovial forge]

Specially the tank mission

[split plank]

Bf4s i hated the most

Enjoyed the Bad Company SP

[solid hinge]

I’m still wondering if Clyde is somehow related to Henry Blackburn

[jovial forge]

Same

[solid hinge]

And if Hawkin from bf4 is the same one from bf3

[jovial forge]

Blackburn family coulda been BFs main character family?

Nah. Metal Gear was nasty for those long cutscene

[solid hinge]

But hey at least the protagonist in BFV aren’t silent like bf4 and bf3

Well Blackburn does talk in the cutscenes

[jovial forge]

Technically Henry does make a sound and Wrecker do make sounds

[solid hinge]

I heard Recker silently swear in the first mission

But that’s about it

[jovial forge]

Just imagine the character profile with a quote. All they get is a "F*ck" to work with lol

[solid hinge]

I’m still pissed that there isn’t an option to sacrifice yourself in bf4

Battlefield does have fun singleplayer

[jovial forge]

That woulda been cool

[solid hinge]

i enjoyed all of them

it was fun

enjoyable

Yeah bf4 didn’t had a smooth launch

[jovial forge]

Bf3s was bad to. Anyone remember the fail knife death?

[solid hinge]

yes

i hated the counter knife in bf4

im glad that doesnt exist anymore

[jovial forge]

Counter knife was blasphemy

[solid hinge]

there wasnt even logic to it

Did they removed the bayonet in BFV?

[storm gulch]

Yes

[solid hinge]

no

i thought it was good

you can laugh at my opinion

[storm gulch]

Lmao what is that

[solid hinge]

my opinion is that i have enjoyed every battlefield campaign that i have played

[jovial forge]

Still wondering about the cliffhanger of bc2

All we know is Russians invading through Alaska

[storm gulch]

They melted Alaska and they all drowned

[jade oriole]

Better than apparently flying around half the globe to the I-95.

[dire quiver]

I didn't really like BF4's campaign

It was meh

[solid hinge]

i never played bad company, is it worth getting to play the campaign?

ive seen it on sale for like 5$

[storm gulch]

I didn't understand what was happening in the bf4 campaign

[solid hinge]

i did

[jovial forge]

Lol I95. COD joke?

[solid hinge]

the chinese

[storm gulch]

Just like the MW2 campaign in CoD

[solid hinge]

vs america

[jade oriole]

Yep.

[dire quiver]

Imo the BF4 campaign was a joke

BF1's is fine

[solid hinge]

Idk if there’s gonna be another bad company. I think I read an article from one of the devs doesn’t understand why bad company 2 was loved

i played through the BF4 campaign so many times

[dire quiver]

Yeah Dice doesn't understand why BC2 was so good

That's like

[solid hinge]

20-40 times maybe

[jovial forge]

I liked the silly factor of bc2

[dire quiver]

Baking a cake and getting praise for it because it tastes divine

Yet

You don't know why it's good

Which is weird

[storm gulch]

they lost the recipe for such cake

[dire quiver]

Indeed

[jovial forge]

The only thing I dont like about bf1 was it was very easy to abuse

[dire quiver]

Like how the heck do you make something amazing but you don't know why it's amazing?

[jovial forge]

Bc2 I mean

[solid hinge]

Exactly

[dire quiver]

Never got to play BC2

[solid hinge]

I bought only for Vietnam...

[jovial forge]

You missed some good and horrible times

[solid hinge]

I only played the ww2 mission tho

[dire quiver]

The only ones I played were BC1, 1943, 4, 1 and V's beta

[solid hinge]

i dont know if i pre-order bf5

[storm gulch]

I've played BC1, only remembered something about golden bars tho

[dire quiver]

Btw, the only BC1 and 1943 I played were the free demos lmao

[jovial forge]

Never played bf1 but saw the trailers

[dire quiver]

I played BF4 on last gen

[storm gulch]

Haha same

[jovial forge]

Bc1*

[dire quiver]

And BF1 on current gen obviously

Then I got BF4 for current gen as well

[solid hinge]

i played bf4 on xone

I really need to upgrade soon for BFV

[dire quiver]

BFV had a fun beta ngl

[jovial forge]

Played BF4 on ps4 n ps4

True

[dire quiver]

I just didn't like how OP the sten was lmao

It was a fricking laser

[jovial forge]

Tanks were nasty in a good way if you used em right

[storm gulch]

The gameplay was fun, but the atmosphere of the game didn't necessarily feel like World War II tbh

[dire quiver]

It doesn't feel like WW2

[jovial forge]

Rather them drive em I a suicide charge like bf1

[storm gulch]

It's like it was an extension of WWI with WWII weapons

[jovial forge]

I think the beta was lacking in acoustics of war

[dire quiver]

The beta felt weird honestly

It did NOT feel like a Battlefield game at all

[languid flare]

I think the beta was

[dire quiver]

But I enjoyed it a lot

[jovial forge]

Everybody saw it

[languid flare]

[Opinion here]

[solid hinge]

I think it’s because chapter 1 is set in 39-40 which just the beginning of the war

[storm gulch]

I didn't believe I cared for historical accuracy, but I can't deny how off it felt not to see any Nazi flags and all males soldiers

[languid flare]

STOP

[jovial forge]

The women definitely through me off slightly

[dire quiver]

Yeah

[jovial forge]

Outta nowhere you hear

[storm gulch]

That satisfaction of slaughtering Nazis isn't there lol

[jovial forge]

Hello old friend like wtf are you doing here

[dire quiver]

I honestly, really don't like having women in the game (unless it's in the soviet faction, the soviet faction needs to have women tbh)

But like

It won't completely stop me from playing the game

[jovial forge]

French lady or Russian woman

[dire quiver]

I'm buying it when I can

[solid hinge]

I know I’m gonna get hate but I’m definitely gonna be customizing my character as a female in mp

[storm gulch]

Dude those asian scouts! Man... Nothing against asians but c'mon

[dire quiver]

I'm asian and the asian scouts pissed me off

But like

[jovial forge]

Will make a chick sniper ngl but prefer she be French if possible

[dire quiver]

At this point I've stopped caring about real immersion because we're never gonna get it

All I care about is BFV being fun

That's it

[storm gulch]

Smh

[dire quiver]

The gunplay is really, really good

Which is great

[storm gulch]

If they added Nazi symbolism then I'm 100% on board lol

Yeah it is

[dire quiver]

I have mixed feelings about the maps though

Narvik felt, idk, weird

[solid hinge]

What’s your guys/gals main class?

[jovial forge]

And no dumb over complex easter eggs either. I miss the silly ones devs used to do

[dire quiver]

Rotterdam is a great map but it feels dead

[storm gulch]

The buildings seemed really copy and paste

[dire quiver]

Assault lol

Or medic

[icy sluice]

Uhhh

[jovial forge]

The lack of shotguns worry me.

[solid hinge]

Support and recon

[dire quiver]

There's literally only 2 shotguns

[jovial forge]

M97 needs to return

[dire quiver]

The M30 drilling and for some reason the 12G automatic

[jovial forge]

Right!?

[storm gulch]

But perhaps that was the model and style that was followed in those cities during that time, uniform buildings and furniture

[dire quiver]

I really don't know what Dice was smoking when they decided to put the 12G Automatic in lol

[jovial forge]

When I saw it was the 12g my heart sank a little

[storm gulch]

Why weren't there furniture, you think those citizens had enough time to clean the house before evacuating

[dire quiver]

We're also getting the sjogren apparently

[jovial forge]

But the shogren was nice

[solid hinge]

Doesn’t Westie delete all the toxic comments and bans all the trolls on his social media’s

[dire quiver]

If you watch the "This Is Battlefield V" trailer you can see the Sjogren

[jovial forge]

12g needed the entire mag to kill like two people

At best

[dire quiver]

Also, the MG42 is gonna be amazing

Can't wait to squad up with three other people, equip MG42s and camp a doorway lmao

[jovial forge]

Lol

[dire quiver]

Hmm

[storm gulch]

Did they have the M2 Browning in the game? The heavy machine gun?

[dire quiver]

Nope

[jovial forge]

Revolvers are lacking to

[storm gulch]

Damn, that's a classic

[dire quiver]

It's probably gonna be post-launch

[jovial forge]

Bf1 did me dirty with that masterman challenge

[dire quiver]

Plus, French and Soviets are confirmed factions at this point

Not sure if anyone else saw it

[storm gulch]

That would be a good idea

[solid hinge]

and germans

and british

and skandanavians of some kind

[dire quiver]

If they don't put the Japanese in I'm gonna fly to Sweden just to go to Dice and screech for 24 hours straight

[solid hinge]

they have so much chance to have so many differnt maps

there can be pacific islands

european towns

hilly countryside

[dire quiver]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

beachs

there better be an operations of americans storming an island

from the japanese

[dire quiver]

Mhm

[solid hinge]

it would be cool if we could see D-Day

and play it

there are so many operations that i want to see

but i know i wont get all of them

[jovial forge]

They're starting from the beginning so US show show up eventually with iconic US weapons n such hopefully

[solid hinge]

yeah

[jovial forge]

Least that's what in told

[solid hinge]

id say the US will come out in a year

maybe a bit later

[icy sluice]

They said the first tide will come in early 2019

[solid hinge]

will that be the americans though?

I wonder if the bfv haters are true battlefield fans?

Or even have the actual intention of buying the game

I would think that a mass majority of the people hating on Battlefielf are those who have never played the game(s).

Everything dice is doing has been way better than the initial reveal like the weekly updates and the feedback taken from the beta

Really like this new marketing strategy

They can do everything they can to fix and the hate just lingers on for battlefield v

the only real stuff up was the trailer

but who cares?

its more customization

something we should appreciate

I don’t see anyone appreciating the fact that premium is gone

It’s like the best change they could’ve made

[pure veldt]

no one will ever appreciate anything even if the game was given free

welcome to our world

no segregation of community is the best thing about Battlefront 2

it should help with longevity of V

[topaz dome]

I'm happy only if there is going to be an equal amount of content compared to bf1

[snow ermine]

Looks like there will be no Eastern front in the campaign. Great job dice, great job.

[solid hinge]

with dlc

you never know

and there probably will be war stories with dlc

as one is allready comfirmed

the last tiger

[snow ermine]

War stories as dlc? Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to ne fired asap

[solid hinge]

dlc is free

i prefer this

have a finished game that gets content added every month or so

instead of getting a game fully decked out with everything but 2 years late

[topaz dome]

"no premium!" and then you have to buy dlc individually

[solid hinge]

all dlc is free though

🤔

[topaz dome]

but that doesn't mean cosmetics won't be

[snow ermine]

I'm not talking about multiplayer. Campaign has always been weak in bf games so adding it as dlc is an obvious content padding from dice.

[solid hinge]

i mean

its free stuff later on

at least you wont have to pay for it

🤷

[snow ermine]

It's plenty of money for them as is with 70 pounds for the premium game. Plus there still will be in game purchases.

[solid hinge]

but none of it is needed

its cosmetic

you dont need cosmetic

[snow ermine]

Say that to people who are buying skins in cs go for real money

[solid hinge]

and?

they enjoy it

its their choice

they want it

nothing forces them to spend thousands on it

but they do it because they enjoy the gam

[snow ermine]

And? The dlc is only "free" because the price is already build in game selling model. It's not like ea has suddenly became generous and decided to release games to it's detriment.

[topaz dome]

well in csgo you can get skins for cheap but in other games you have to pay like $2-5

or more

[solid hinge]

when will you understand

that with this game

that you dont need to have cosmetics

nobody will care if you dont have cosmetics

[topaz dome]

But I need everything

[solid hinge]

i dont laugh in bf1 if someone doesnt have a golden skin

then you can buy it

but you dont have to

[topaz dome]

but there should be a fair way to get it without spend money

[snow ermine]

It's called progression.

[fathom vigil]

sees new bfv trailer
it's good
scrolls to view comments

I hate this community tbh

[vague marsh]

Youre seeing the comments you want to see

[fathom vigil]

Boi what

I can scroll down and the first thing I see is hate

The second thing is hate

All of it's hate

Pointless h a t e

[vague marsh]

then dont read them and find the possitive comments. I know I saw plenty

cause I was one of them 😄

[sacred junco]

in the past 4-5 games i played in Nivelle Nights

I noticed that all of them had Germany constantly pressuring B cap

but never saw France pressuring their E cap

[vague marsh]

"in coming joke"

[sacred junco]

Like the attackers have a very easy time zerging towards our French natural

but no time or opportunity for France to do the same to their natural

and this is for games that aren't 100% lopsided

it feels so difficult to attack because Germany will start pressuring and capping b so frequently

[vague marsh]

Sounds like WW2 history

[solid hinge]

yeah

[obsidian fossil]

heyy all

[solid hinge]

hi

[obsidian fossil]

heyy

[compact oxide]

I love the gun cosmetics, especially the leafy guns in BFV

[obsidian fossil]

yEss

actually I think i like the night ops the best

or whatever its called

just black and chunky

[solid hinge]

i like the cloth

camo

[obsidian fossil]

oo yeah

[chrome stirrup]

Hello

[fringe wedge]

one more month to play the game

[obsidian fossil]

well thats enough discord for one day

im off to sleep

seeyas

[solid hinge]

@obsidian fossil gn

[hoary condor]

Morning

[solid hinge]

mornin