#battlefield-legacy-titles

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hoary condor
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yeah @lofty hearth

lofty hearth
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That's the one that is similar?

minor gale
hoary condor
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or the same Krappa

lofty hearth
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I mean they are not identical, but they look similar

void igloo
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They look very similar tbh

hoary condor
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i want this game so bad...

violet locust
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I wanna play the Campaign 👀

hoary condor
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i want battlefield 😃

sinful compass
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the trailer is amazing

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holy crap

hoary condor
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looks incredible

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brb another meeting

lofty hearth
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I loved the guy in the background speaking

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Strong words

sinful compass
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that's Mark Strong

frozen sparrow
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Mark Strong 🙏

trim tapir
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the reloading m1911 scene look so epic 😃

karmic hull
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was that Submarine?

sinful compass
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if there isn't an eater egg where he sings country roads I wouldn't care because this game is amazing either way

violet locust
toxic briar
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I'm sad I have to sign in to confirm my age and my account isn't old enough apparently

sinful compass
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now we have to wait for Flak Fire to do a breakdown of the trailer

violet locust
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I'm sure it'll be up soon 😛

sinful compass
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@karmic hull probably a German U-boat

karmic hull
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i c

sinful compass
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i am 90% sure it's a U-boat

karmic hull
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there were spoilers too in the trailer

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😫

sinful compass
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also,skiing gameplay at 1:07??

plush flume
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@void igloo the French used there uniforms from ww1 quite a bit in ww2

steep radish
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Throwing bottle at german simulator

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2018

karmic hull
steep radish
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eggs dee

proud bough
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did you guys see the shermans in the trailer?

void igloo
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@plush flume they used the same actors too apparantely .. Lol

karmic hull
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breathing simulator ?

steep radish
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Also it confuses me how the french guy at the trailer could be the man from BF1 @void igloo

plush flume
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Guess they wanted to give the guy more than one mission

void igloo
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He time traveled lmao

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😂 😂

plush flume
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Nazi time travel machine

karmic hull
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he have son now

proud bough
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what if what we saw in BF1 was him waking up in WW2? thonk

plush flume
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Like a thirty year coma?

proud bough
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yeah

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wouldnt be too far-fetched

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but then again it's the french colonial troops and the guy in BF1 was clearly american

plush flume
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I mean wasn't there an old looking black dude in a dark room in the trailer at one point

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He could've hooked up with a French girl maybe aha

steep radish
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He was american, he wasnt french and the

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uhhhh mf

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Yea i dont have a clue

hoary condor
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back

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can't wait to keep replaying the video on the train home

steep radish
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Train

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is taken to russia to fight for the motherland

prime scarab
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Oh

solid hinge
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German infantry soldier models looks sick compared to the British ones in BFV

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the grey jacket with the helmet

proud bough
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sucks we have to see The Last Tiger post-launch

solid hinge
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So battlefield V is released already?

hoary condor
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i think it's an interesting concept to play on The Last Tiger, being able to see/hear the ideology behind the german movement

proud bough
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what

violet locust
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Lol

hoary condor
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comes out 20/11/2018

solid hinge
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Oh okay thx, i probably didn't see that post then

proud bough
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even tho the last tiger is the one i really want to try out, it's clear they're gonna pull a switcharoo like they did in battlefront 2

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at some point you're bound to shoot up some germans, even if you are a german i guess

hoary condor
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very doubtful

solid hinge
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Making a pure axis campaign is probably quite controversial, but I still want one tho

hoary condor
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would say you could hit one of your own tanks.. but it's in the name... we would be the last tiger

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it can be seen similar to all the war films.. all american.. never see any other nation fighting

solid hinge
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Hi

proud bough
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the description for the last tiger is literally along the lines of "questioning your own ideology"

steep radish
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Lmao

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someone said the graphics were better than sex

restive talon
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The trailer is epic

steep radish
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Despacito

restive talon
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@steep radish ok this is so sad

steep radish
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can we nuke the middle east

cerulean knot
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Battlefield V campaign trailer is DOPE

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Can’t wait for the game

rocky falcon
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^

void igloo
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Wow my lil finding sparked a full blown mistery conversation.. Lol.

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I spy with my lil eye the same black guy

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😎

rough smelt
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I'm 100% sure that's a more polished model of the BF1 sniper

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literally did a double take when they first showed him

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other than that, trailer is

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lofty hearth
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I loved the moment that the two guys had at 0:42

hoary condor
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it's going to be amazing!

rocky falcon
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the new trailer in my opinion is better than the bf1 reveal

hoary condor
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Game of the year?

lofty hearth
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Don't know why it's the most beautiful part for me

hoary condor
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easily!

rocky falcon
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snowflakes of the internet are hating

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and nobody is willing to explain why

steep radish
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Game is uh
flips through cards
SHIT IT HAS WOMENENEN XDDDDD

rocky falcon
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lol

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i looked up

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and Norwegian resistance movement had females

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so its accurate

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with a woman in sp

hoary condor
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many had females, watched a documentary about it this morning

rocky falcon
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lol

mossy badge
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Dear god, just watched the SP Trailer

rocky falcon
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what a timing

solid hinge
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Everyone was whining about women but not insane robotic arms

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Thank god they got rid of those

lofty hearth
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One comment says "0:05 holy crap he dabbed so hard he freaking explodes"

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Lmao

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Can't stop laughing

mossy badge
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Hhahahahahahaha

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I missed that

violet locust
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it does kinda look like that OMEGALUL

rocky falcon
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ppl are still hating

mossy badge
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People will always hate stuff

rocky falcon
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idk why

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i mean

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there is no reason for that many ppl to hate the trailer

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theres 2 problems ppl have i think

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women and black people

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well

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bf1 had black ppl in sp

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and its a true story with the woman

mossy badge
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If that classifies as a problem, its a personal problem, not the game.

rocky falcon
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i think ppl are just being snowflakes

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i will piss on them when its winter

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when they have fell

storm marlin
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It’s kinda annoying when people use stuff from the original trailer as to why battlefield v is bad, but it’s stupid

rocky falcon
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igo

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i saw your comment

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forgot wat it was

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on yt

storm marlin
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Which one

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Ye lol

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Was it about tirailleur or last tiger

real dawn
storm marlin
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Oh hey 1 month from today!!!

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I will play all the single player before i touch multiplayer, I always do it that way

hoary condor
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20th Nov it comes out

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best early bday gift ever

void igloo
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How can you hate a game based off a trailer... Like cmon its a trailer.. None of that transfers to real gameplay anyways.. Lol

rocky falcon
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i have 1 complaint about the sp so far

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no swastikas 😭

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otherwise awesome!

void igloo
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@rocky falcon for real.. But some 13 yrd olds would probably boycott it because its bad ok.. Lol

hoary condor
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yeah good point @rocky falcon none that i saw.. they should be on the tigers

rocky falcon
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lol

void igloo
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I wonder if germans have problems with the Swastikaz.. Is that why it was removed??

rocky falcon
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it might be banned in some countries

hoary condor
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Germany lifted the ban 1-2 years ago

void igloo
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Well dont sell the game to those countries lol

rocky falcon
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or eh sweden itself is sjw so idk

hoary condor
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if it's fine there, should be fine everywhere tbh

rocky falcon
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but lets not get into politics

void igloo
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@rocky falcon true.

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Leave that to trump and administration lol

rocky falcon
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lol

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im prob gonna work as a politican soon

tardy basin
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Please keep politics out of this discord

hoary condor
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10/10

void igloo
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10/4

rocky falcon
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its funny how i can be the one to make the dislikes go to 1,7k

void igloo
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Roger

rocky falcon
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dislieks were at 1699

hoary condor
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i'd like to know exactly why people dislike it

slow spindle
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Is it just me that prefers the type of single player that was in battlefield 4 than the “war stories”? In this game?

hoary condor
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i like war stories

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gathers all types of warfare from around the globe at that time.. it's a small lesson too that you wouldn't of known it happened

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a lot of people don't know about the battle of passchendaele

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it's a great unique way to tell a story.. something, nobody has tried (succesfully, other than DICE)

amber herald
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@hoary condor agreed, im so excited to play it!

cedar jay
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@hoary condor agreed

hoary condor
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solid hinge
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that trailer was trash

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look at BF1 single player trailer and come back to this

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even BF4 single player trailer was better

hoary condor
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No way! I really feel dice have outdone themselves on this trailer

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looks/sounds incredible

gray glade
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I liked this trailer

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it was really good, deffo wanna play the single player

solid hinge
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no way sir there have been better trailer in the past for Battlefield games

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I hope battlefield v gets me back into the battlefield series again, last battlefield I enjoyed was 4, couldn’t dig the mechanics in hardline and 1

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But the campaign trailer was good

autumn nest
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Ive been a Battlefield fan all my life, but I don't really think V is gonna be that good

mossy badge
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Woooooooooooooo

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I pre-ordered BFV

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Now i'm broke again

gray glade
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BF1 trailer was good, but we all know the real game was nothing like the trailer itself

autumn nest
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but I guess we'll have to see

solid hinge
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The gameplay isn’t bad for battlefield v and they said they’ll tweak and fix the issues with the beta

autumn nest
gray glade
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disregarding the reveal trailer for BFV, the trailers for this game looks alot closer to what we'll see in the actual game

solid hinge
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Their new marketing strategy with the weekly updates has been nice and they’re revealing more about battlefield v

autumn nest
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true

solid hinge
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And yes every trailer after the reveal has been way better than the initial reveal

hoary condor
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i feel this has the cutting edge of mechanics, gameplay and sound

autumn nest
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where most other FPS games keep you guessing on what the actual content will be

hoary condor
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excited for release

gray glade
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and we'll finally get a german point of view

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FINALLY right!?`

void igloo
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions of the game..

solid hinge
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But then again with all their efforts, the negativity still is lingering on battlefield v

hoary condor
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it would be interesting to see the ideology behind the German forces

solid hinge
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It’s like they could do everything to repair the game and people still go and hate on it

hoary condor
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everything good has negativity attached to it.. no matter how great something is, there are people who won't like it for XYZ

void igloo
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@solid hinge people will always find negative on anything that doesnt come out their way

hoary condor
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you could make the perfect game... won't be perfect because someone will complain

void igloo
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Yump

solid hinge
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True

void igloo
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As soon as 1 person hates.. Sheep follow

hoary condor
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what dice have done so far, for BF5, looks incredible, having the dev talks is awesome too! Gives that personal touch and up-to-date events on what changes and fixes they have added since/from the BETA.

solid hinge
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don't get me wrong i played the beta, and i actually liked the beta because i wasn't getting killed by explosion every 2 sec, i actually was having a infantry fight. But as for the trailer i think there have been better, including BF1 single player. I think BF1 game itself was a turd. BF4, BF3, Bad Company 2 are my favs

autumn nest
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I'm just interested to see what battlefield brings to battle royale

void igloo
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Regardless of what they done.. HAVE FUN PEOPLE!!!

hoary condor
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you too @void igloo

void igloo
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Most important thing when u buy a game.. Have fun an dont worry about what the next guy said.. His opinions are not yours and yours are not his.. Play the game habe fun make new friends.. In 2 yrs BF will bring out another game.. And BFV will die out like all other titles

solid hinge
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I do think battlefield v won’t fail like people are making it out to be and it will still sell in the millions

hoary condor
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Correct. People are preferring bf1 - bf4 before they have even played bf5... hard to have a good judgement on a game if you only have played the beta

void igloo
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Just wait til Black Friday .. Lol.. Everyone will have it.. Lol along with BF1 cus its gonna be the deal

hoary condor
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so true

solid hinge
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Definitely

void igloo
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People hate it and still gonna buy it..

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Bet

solid hinge
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The release date for battlefield v is close to thanksgiving and Black Friday

hoary condor
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day before my bday 😃

solid hinge
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I have been a fan of Battlefield love it or hate it i have owned every game since i started. This one will be no diffrent

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but i get to dislike a trailer

hoary condor
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very true, you can.

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You have seen it, and thats your opinion, nothing wrong with that 😃

void igloo
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Yump.

hoary condor
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but @solid hinge i'm saying you are wrong, and it's amazing 😉

void igloo
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As long as u dont implement your opinion on other people brain as a fact.. Then you can have that opinion lol

solid hinge
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The best move for battlefield v has been no more premium pass

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That’s honestly what I believe

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squid check this out and tell me this doesn't kick ass

hoary condor
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i'm at work.. can't watch it lol

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well i can but without headphone shucks..

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DM me it

solid hinge
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it just is BF3 launch trailer.. gets me pumped for Battlefield

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I think there’s a lot more to like about battlefield v then hate about it

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Especially since all dlc is free with tides of war

gray glade
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what do people hate about it anyways?

spark quarry
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bf5 seems pretty solid

solid hinge
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The customization for your character @gray glade

spark quarry
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00f

gray glade
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yeah, but dice took the feedback for that

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we're not gonna see everyone running around with robot arms and stuff

spark quarry
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so bf5 is the good old EA like "pay 50$ to shoot" thing?

solid hinge
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I mean they will tone it down

gray glade
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yeah

spark quarry
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lol

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as I expected

solid hinge
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I will play it for a year or so but just wait for my modern setting. Please god be Bad Company 3 next

spark quarry
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bf6

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xD

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hmm another futuristic BF would be nice

solid hinge
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no future

spark quarry
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like bf 2144 (not sure if its called that)

solid hinge
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no

spark quarry
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or so

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xD

hoary condor
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i see spitfires.. i'm excited lol

spark quarry
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yeee

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pretty hyped for bf5

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used up my money on getting deluxe XD

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I mean, im some of these bf nubs

solid hinge
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Bad Company 3 will most likely be next i have a gut feeling. They asked us why we liked bad company 2 while playing BF4 long time back

spark quarry
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that plays and atleast trys to support

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well im bad xD

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tru

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if that comes out

solid hinge
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It’s been about 7 years since battlefield went to modern military as the last was 4 and I expect the next to be in 2020

spark quarry
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im getting it too

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yeaa

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aka when im, uh

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14?

lyric mirage
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BF4 was in 2020

spark quarry
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oops I mean 13

lyric mirage
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*took place

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or did you mean the release date?

solid hinge
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The next battlefield game releases in 2020

boreal sail
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When is the last day to preorder BFV?

solid hinge
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That’s what I meant

gray glade
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i can understand why dice wanted a break for modern military

lyric mirage
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the modern military thing fits Battlefield a lot imo

gray glade
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they did so many of those for a while

spark quarry
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bf4 campaign is ok

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didnt get bf3

solid hinge
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Battlefield hasn’t shown itself in a campaign besides the bad company series

spark quarry
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battlefield is the game that changed my concept of hitscan and snipers are one shot loll

lyric mirage
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BF1 was okay-ish, but it had so many goddamn problems, especially the sniper spam since snipers and machine guns were only weapons usable on longer ranges

spark quarry
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mg spammers = =

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sniped by a mg from, uh

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400 meters away

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XD

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dat boi be like

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-.-

lyric mirage
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basically BF1 has a weird spread system that is trying to mimic the horrible CS:GO spread system and fails even more than the thing it was trying to mimic

gray glade
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bf4 tdm was awesome for lmg's

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you could shut down half the map lol

spark quarry
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csgo spread, well

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im ok with the old one

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where u can strafe shoot and shizz

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the recoil is pretty stable

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but the new one

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is bullsh

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izz

lyric mirage
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Let's analyze it:
First shot is super accurate, second one is super inaccurate? Yes
Machine guns have to be shot for a certain amount of time before getting pinpoint accurate? Yes
Sniper rifles are the only really accurate thing? Yes

solid hinge
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well Boston Dynamics have made parkour robots now so future for PPL will be interesting. wonder if it will be portrayed in next Battlefield. Its not a future its happening now

gray glade
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bipod with flir = zero recoil, very little spread and everyone are bright white

spark quarry
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thats why I dropped from dia to silver

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yea

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how to defend a flag in bf1 no vehicle and no explosive server - everyone mg

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under a flag

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lmfao

lyric mirage
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BF1 also had a problem related to the campaign

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the war stories might seem like a good format at first

spark quarry
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well

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the stories are too short

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its just called "shoot the NPCs"

lyric mirage
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but certain war stories are less interesting than the others and you just do not have enough time to know the characters and like/hate them

spark quarry
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yee

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not like bf4 campaign

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where theres just these people

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and u just, well

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play it

lyric mirage
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not to even mention some ridiculous inaccuracies in a campaign that is trying to be accurate

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for example Ottomans using armored trains

spark quarry
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lmfao

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thats the one that I dnt rlly like

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bcz, well

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I suck with explosives

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anyways

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anyone in bf1 can get me 4 AT grenade kills?

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aka I need this one dood to let me blow them up 4 times

maiden pewter
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How was the single player trailer for bfv

spark quarry
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so I can get the SMG 08/18

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ik its old

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but

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I bought it like 3 weeks ago

lyric mirage
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I liked through the mud and blood, but for example the last war story was a pain to play and the italian one was super uninteresting

spark quarry
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prologue was awesome

lyric mirage
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indeed

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I wish we got more of that

spark quarry
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yea

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the prologue was some quality content

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besides the classical "this is all a dream" cliche

lyric mirage
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but what was the funniest part to me was the message at the end, making it sound like people wanted to fight in the war

spark quarry
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at the start

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lol

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hmm

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lol

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tru

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ppl be like we heros

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bf1: excuse me wtf we just go and die lmfao

lyric mirage
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The truth is that many of those people who fought in the war just wanted the war to end. They did not want to fight for the most part

spark quarry
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yea

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or its that there forced to go

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or so

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or shizz

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like that

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why everyone so good at bf1 lol

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im just trash at it

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like I cant snipe

lyric mirage
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It is just silly how prologue established one thing, through mud and blood followed it, the italian one aswell but the message at the end, the arabic one and the pilot one went just "fuck it. Lets make war look like fun and that people fought in it because they wanted to"

spark quarry
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lol

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true

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its more chill

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welp I think its bcz its a game after all

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not some documentary that's showing bf1

lyric mirage
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if you think about it, through mud and blood, avanti savoia and prologue had a very serious tone. They showed the chaos of the war. Same can apply for the runner which was a great war story aswell

spark quarry
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yea

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I liked the runner bcz its more infantry

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first I hate sentry bcz of = =

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multiplayer pain intensifies

lyric mirage
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but the knights of the sky just felt like a generic war movie "based on real war" and the last one was spoiled by difficulty problems, annoying naration and weird presentation of certain things

spark quarry
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the runner (first play): fails on easy

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true

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gtg to bed

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11pm

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= =

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timezones

lyric mirage
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but in overall, the campaign was not bad

spark quarry
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yeaa

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when bf5 comes out ill "no-life" for a few days

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like 2 weeks

lyric mirage
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just the war stories format kinda sucks in some things and some of the war stories truly had mistakes

spark quarry
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yea

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MP was full of tryhards

hoary condor
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@lyric mirage war stories is brilliant, you get to see how people fought across them bits of the world in a horrible world war. It opens the eyes to all sorts of people and nations that put their lives on the line for country

solid hinge
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obsidian fossil
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It likkeee

hoary condor
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deluxe version has it's own bits that doesn't come with the standard bought edition

obsidian fossil
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constant and big updates, similar to R6

solid hinge
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gray glade
hoary condor
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Glad to hear @solid hinge support

lyric mirage
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@hoary condor You are right except for the fact that you get to see how people fought in a horrible war. The war stories have not shown how horrible the war was for the most part. Only thing that came close to it was the intro

rocky falcon
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yep now the salt comments start to rise in the comment section

lyric mirage
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many of them have shown where was fought, but none of them have shown the brutality of the war or how exactly it was fought

rocky falcon
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i knew it lol

hoary condor
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That was a gripping opener. I feel BF5 have that feel the whole way through on these stories.

solid hinge
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I’m interested in the tank driver for the German side for battlefield v

hoary condor
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From what I have seen, it looks incredible, it holds the story and tbh it's gripped many people.

lyric mirage
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the italian one was for example incredibly rambo-like and while it has shown how people lost families in the war, it was only towards the end and most of the time you are just walking and shooting everyone with your suit and handheld machine gun, being almost totally indestructible

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in BF1's case, it was good concept, poor execution

hoary condor
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True, but you have to account it's a game also.. it's never going to be 100% realistic. It has to have it's moments

rocky falcon
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why is it always like

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when a bfv trailer drops there so many posetive comments

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like 5 hours later¨

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only salt ones in top

lyric mirage
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true. But if they are really trying to show the brutality of the war, they do not have to be 100% realistic

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that is where you missed my point

hoary condor
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I feel with BF5 they have covered it.

lyric mirage
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I brought up Italian war story because it basically crossed the line between an action movie hero and a normal game protagonist

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the Runner was a good one imo and so was the through mud and blood, but the last war story and the flier one failed miserably

hoary condor
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Fair enough, I'm not keen on flying... hell.. i can't even drive on games haha

lyric mirage
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lol

rocky falcon
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anyone has an answer for my question?

hoary condor
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flying i would still hit a lamp post

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and no idea @rocky falcon lol

lyric mirage
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the flier story just had a story that did not feel authentic at all and was very out of place

solid hinge
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I mean negativity for battlefield v is still there no matter what dice does @rocky falcon

rocky falcon
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lol tru

lyric mirage
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the last war story was not really the worst, but for example the way how the narration was done just took away the entire feeling

rocky falcon
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but thats not what i meant

solid hinge
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What are you trying to ask

rocky falcon
#

when the sp trailer dropped

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all top comments were hype

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now

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the top comments are like omg shit

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#notmybattlefield

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it was same with gamescom

solid hinge
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I don’t know what it is then, people won’t be satisfied with anything ever since the initial reveal of battlefield v

lyric mirage
#

War stories have a potential, but I think they need to be long and gritty in order to feel and be right

hoary condor
#

If people don't enjoy it.. they don't enjoy it. Main thing is to play happy 😃

rocky falcon
#

lol

lyric mirage
#

I dunno why... but I hated both BFV trailers before the SP one. The SP one seems kinda okay-ish

rocky falcon
#

i bet the americans comes home after school and say

solid hinge
#

The Rotterdam trailer wasn’t bad

rocky falcon
#

TIME TO SHIT BF

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i bet they are like fat kids who gets bullied in school

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lol

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.

obv a joke

lyric mirage
#

The rotterdam trailer was a brilliant example of how DICE makes monotone trailers these days. It was unfitting music, too many sudden cuts, a character jumping outta window and a bunch of quick cinematics randomly thrown into it

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same as the overrated BF1 trailer

solid hinge
#

There are many ways that battlefield does not portray war accurately

rocky falcon
#

lol

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people still hated on gamescom

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woman was showed like 2 times

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it was good

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the trailer

lyric mirage
#

The problem was not the content of the trailer but the trailer itself facepalm

solid hinge
#

I did hear that they won the gamescom award for best multiplayer game

lyric mirage
#

I do not care if there were women or not in the trailer, but it was badly cut

narrow drift
#

The trailer 👌

solid hinge
#

I’ll take any trailer over the initial trailer for battlefield v

lyric mirage
#

true

solid hinge
#

They aren’t the best but it’s what the game needed

dense bone
#

since when did people put so much stock in a trailer?

solid hinge
#

Every video about battlefield v on the battlefield YouTube channel has more likes besides the initial when I looked

rocky falcon
#

i would not cry if dice only made being a woman possible as french or russian happy

lyric mirage
#

I just think that DICE should try to change the style of their trailers. They are getting monotone and repetetive. Just put there some actual in game OST, reduce the amount of cuts or make the trailer feel like it is showing or telling something instead of being a bunch of randomised scenes and that's it

#

the trailer is suddenly much better

sharp falcon
#

The trailer is good but no battlefield theme music

dense bone
#

for who?

sharp falcon
#

Dun dun dun dun

dense bone
#

because that spazzy shit is whats common

lyric mirage
#

I am tired of hearing Johny Cash remixes and Seven Nation Army in battlefield trailers

dense bone
#

us "intellectuals" are the minority that want something more refined

lyric mirage
#

sad, but true

dense bone
#

and granted, the sp are pretty solid, so idk

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id think by now you know what youre getting with bf, and bf knows that, so their trailers are trying to lure in other people from outside of their market

lyric mirage
#

I think that BF4 trailer was really the best one

dense bone
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im not the right person to ask, i dont put stock into trailers

lyric mirage
#

it had a flow and it just felt like you were watching an actual match from different perspectives and it has simply shown what battlefield is all about

hoary condor
#

i'm signing off for the night, getting ready to leave the office, have a good day/evening/night soldiers BF1

dense bone
#

goodnight

sharp falcon
#

Aye aye

lyric mirage
#

gn

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I am sorry if I was a bit rude or angry at times

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but I am just really tired of some things DICE are doing recently

solid hinge
#

If I’m being fair, the market place is always good when a good battlefield game comes out for the FPS genre

sonic delta
#

I’m fucking hyped!!

opal fox
#

Guys if we buy the lambo miura from auction house and it has already unlocked the reventon fe perk will we not get it?

solid hinge
#

I just went through the comments on the new trailer

obsidian fossil
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dont

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it is

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aids

solid hinge
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I’m not surprised

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Every single battlefield v video has cancerous comments

tight kettle
#

wut

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oh im missing a bunch of messages, nevermind

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i was reading old shit

rocky falcon
#

adhd at its best

solid hinge
#

I read a lot of comments of people complaining about no Russian war story

rocky falcon
#

lol

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didnt dice even reveal

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there will come war stories in tides of war

dense bone
#

most comments are what you would expect, its funny because youd swear its all teens thinking they are clever and see another comment saying what they are thinking so they upvote it

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"more like sjww2" so clever

rocky falcon
#

why are ppl still going for the uneducated, white man and dont buy it meme

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its so old now lol

small perch
#

because some people actually feel that way

solid hinge
#

The guy who made the comments left the company

rocky falcon
dense bone
#

i am almost 100% 97% of the people playing that card do not actually feel that way

solid hinge
#

Okay when did battlefield ever portray war accurately

dense bone
#

just edge lords doing shit for the meme

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never, but they emphasize a woman with a prosthetic then everyone is a history buff

rocky falcon
#

the robot arm thing pissed me off lol

solid hinge
#

Honestly it’s turned into trolls just leaving these comments

rocky falcon
#

cuz its not accurate in any way

solid hinge
#

Yeah but they said they tone it down

rocky falcon
#

back in 1940 you had so good robotic arms that u could shoot guns

dense bone
#

i could care less about robot arms, women not proportionately portrayed right, or anything else

rocky falcon
#

yea ik

solid hinge
#

I don’t know how much but at least they heard the feedback

dense bone
#

the game played great, and thats why i buy games

rocky falcon
#

like modest pelican said gameplay makes his dick hard

solid hinge
#

And it’s not too late to make any changes because the game isn’t out

rocky falcon
#

not historical accuracy lol

dense bone
#

bf is screwed after blops 2 and rdr2

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i seriously think sales are gonna be hit hard

rocky falcon
#

bf fucked up a bit this year

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so far atleast

#

firestorm could blow up

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who knows

dense bone
#

they messed up a little, sure, but they are screwed the most by rdr2 and blops 4

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and all the people crying foul will say its because of their agenda

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and the sales reflect that

solid hinge
#

Battlefield definitely took the hit this year

sullen mist
#

Kinda find it funny that people are butthurt about the French Senegalese soldiers having more screen time in the trailer, I mean that could potentially be the most interesting war story since there hasn't been many fps games depicting the Free French or their colonial soldiers

dense bone
#

internet will internet

rocky falcon
#

people are reatarded

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bf1 had black ppl

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in campaign

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in a lot of them

solid hinge
#

There’s not any gameplay of firestorm yet surprisingly and I know it’s after launch but I want to see something about it

sullen mist
#

Bf1 failed by not even showing enough of the Harlem Hellfighters for their campaign

dense bone
#

ill probably buy when firestorm launches

rocky falcon
#

idk what this world have turned into

solid hinge
#

And it’s interesting that it’s not as many players and you have to play in a squad

rocky falcon
#

people are stupid now

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ppl hate on bfv for no reason

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or

dense bone
#

people have alwys been stupid, they are just easily voiced now

rocky falcon
#

a fake reason

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like that comment

sullen mist
#

Like they dedicated alof marketing to the Harlem Hellfighters, collector items and cosmetics, then they have the Harlem Hellfighters appear in one campaign mission (intro) and maybe two MP maps

rocky falcon
#

that was the most dumb comment i have seen

solid hinge
#

I’m happy battlefield didn’t cut a campaign for a popular game mode like cod did

sonic delta
#

So, people are hating for the sake of being cool

rocky falcon
#

cod is worse

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it has rap in the trailers

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lol

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its made for 12 year olds

dense bone
#

even though people say bf campaign is less important than cods

solid hinge
#

I think I’ve seen comments about cod bo4>bfv

sullen mist
#

Eh I mean the second bf1 trailer had Kanye West

rocky falcon
#

what can bfv do to make the salty "humans" of the internet happy

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humanity is weird now days

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im losing hope

sullen mist
#

Nothing, all they can do is release the game and work on post launch content

rocky falcon
#

tru

sullen mist
#

I mean give or take, I'm not too sure how bfV will perform

rocky falcon
#

idk why ppl hate still

dense bone
#

you cant satisfy everyone

rocky falcon
#

all you do is looking salty

dense bone
#

that will always hold true

rocky falcon
#

and mad

#

i mean

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win back 80% of bf's fans

dense bone
#

i really doubt they lost that many

rocky falcon
#

since 80% of bf's fanbase are kids

solid hinge
#

The developers can do anything to fix the game and all but people will be mad

dense bone
#

the vocals pissed off few are just that

mental relic
#

I loved BF1 campaign and I'll surely love BFV's one but god I miss a whole story like BF4, just wanted to say

solid hinge
#

Battlefield v will still sell in the millions if I’m being honest

rocky falcon
#

ofc it will

cedar jay
#

bfv gonna be GREAT!

dense bone
#

people are more likely to complain than praise

solid hinge
#

I didn’t take the low preorder sales as anything hinting failure

rocky falcon
#

people say that kids now days are dumb

#

that is prob true

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when looking at bfv

dense bone
#

kids were always dumb

mental relic
#

@cedar jay Yes!

solid hinge
#

I mean not to dive to much into that but I’m still not an adult yet

rocky falcon
#

did school teach them anything

solid hinge
#

I’m only 16 to be exact

rocky falcon
#

idk how school works today

solid hinge
#

I’m still young but hey I’m excited for bfv

rocky falcon
#

im not saying all kids are stupid lol

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and ofc

dense bone
#

ever hear that phrase old people say "i did dumb shit when i was a kid too, but no one knew about it because we didnt have the tech"

rocky falcon
#

if you dont like bfv

#

you're not dumb

cedar jay
#

im 16 to be honest but i love bfv

rocky falcon
#

but these comments...

#

holy shiiitttt

mental relic
#

There are lots of reasons to be excited for the game xD

rocky falcon
#

is school really that bad today

cedar jay
#

maybe

solid hinge
#

There’s gonna be a mob mentality for any game that doesn’t please their fans

rocky falcon
#

panzerdoldat schlange hey

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panzersoilder snake

dense bone
#

luoenzo wtf is your profile pic?

solid hinge
#

Me with a guitar

dense bone
#

ooooo

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i thought it was some anime with a guy with a red coat and a staff

sullen mist
#

Oh the Last Tiger comes out in December

mental relic
#

Bebesita´

sullen mist
#

That's pretty earlier than I expected

icy sluice
#

One stupid thing that my high school did was have the highest grades of the previous year go to the advanced class, apparently a 60% was one of the highest so I was put in the advanced class and the first assignment was a quiz that was a graded summary from last year, fuck mobile typing

rocky falcon
#

WHITE MAN GUYS

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JAJA

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HAHA

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🤣😂🤣😂

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so funny

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ikr?

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guys?

#

why is nobody laughing with me

dense bone
#

im not an edge lord doing shit for the meme to get meaningless likes

rocky falcon
#

well he is

sullen mist
#

Huh, there's a M4A3E8 in the singleplayer trailer woahthink

rocky falcon
#

what is that

dense bone
#

ugh he has a vash the stampede icon, id think hes at least 20

rocky falcon
#

oh sherman

sullen mist
#

So it seems they have alot of content to release for tides of war and thankfully alot of these 3D models have been finished and added to the campaign for now until they can later be added to MP with their desired stats and the shiz

solid hinge
#

@rocky falcon those memes are so old like I don’t even bother with them

#

People don’t get the hint that the joke is dead

rocky falcon
#

i was sarcastic lol

solid hinge
#

I know but I’m telling you like those jokes are ridiculously stupid and dead

mental relic
solid hinge
#

Battlefield didn’t take as big of a hit as cod

#

I can count more times cod screwed up than battlefield especially with infinite warfare

#

This comment is so true

#

It’s from the official battlefield twitter account and I agree with it

pure veldt
#

that trailer was underwhelming for me x_x

#

usually i hear the old school BF theme and it gets my goat

#

they doing away with it? =/

solid hinge
#

Which one

pure veldt
#

dun dun dun dun dun dun

#

lol

solid hinge
#

No which trailer

dense bone
#

the one that dropped today

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or yesterday

pure veldt
#

is that a question or were there 2?

solid hinge
#

Oh yeah that one was good but I haven’t heard the main battlefield theme for battlefield v in a trailer yet

dense bone
#

its a statement, i just dont know if it dropped today or yesterdayt

solid hinge
#

Interesting

pure veldt
#

im going to pull the sexist card again cause idgaf and say it doesnt fire me up to want to destroy people in the face when i see women every 5 seconds

dense bone
#

ehh, im all for equality

pure veldt
#

this game targets 95% men

#

you want tampon ads targeting women? 😄

#

men

dense bone
#

that just doesnt make sense

#

games are not specifically for men

pure veldt
#

ok gimmie 10 min ill come up with a better example

dense bone
#

tampons are made specifically for women

pure veldt
#

im eating

#

lol

dense bone
#

you send ME a pm timmeh

solid hinge
#

I can see why they are adding character customization options for all factions is that they need to make money for the free dlc and tides of war

dense bone
#

cosmetic dlc is the way to go

plush flume
#

i really hope this guy is trolling

dense bone
#

who is "this guy"

pure veldt
#

<

plush flume
#

yeah that one

solid hinge
#

The only time I noticed women is when I went to customize my company but it wasn’t bad in the game

pure veldt
#

excuse me for having an opinion that isnt PC that people cant handle 😉

rough smelt
#

there are many more important things concerning this game

plush flume
#

you can all the opinion you want man

rough smelt
#

than character sex seleciton

pure veldt
#

women can be all in the game, it was a trailer for story thats fine

plush flume
#

i just disagree with you heavily

pure veldt
#

it just didnt get me pumped for the game at all

#

but that wasnt its intent so thats fine

#

here's a question ,what if they made separate trailers to target specific demographics?

dense bone
#

i like how a lot of people championed gaming is about gameplay, and all of a sudden a great game is shit on because of stuff outside of gameplay

plush flume
#

okay i get you more now

solid hinge
#

The one time I actually feel sorry for the developers of battlefield v working on gameplay like it’s a hella fun game

pure veldt
#

i think i "want" to be pumped but im just not

#

so that was a big let down

#

i almost bought COD last night so im in desparation mode 😄

solid hinge
#

There’s no premium pass or paid dlc

rough smelt
#

the marketing has been completley abysmal and not being hyped isn't a surprise tbh

plush flume
#

thats understandable i was let down a bit at the start

rough smelt
#

I don't know wtf happened that they somehow just couldn't do the same shit they did for BF1

dense bone
#

beta got me hyped

rough smelt
#

they marketed that game damn well

#

and somehow seemingly forgot

plush flume
#

but my faith was resorted, not fully but enough for me to buy the game

solid hinge
#

They changed it up and they are now marketing way better with weekly updates

pure veldt
#

man i hated Arctic Fjord

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the alpha version anyway with Conquest

rough smelt
#

you mean you don't like having snow in your face 24/7

#

shot

pure veldt
#

they toned it down a ton didnt they?

rough smelt
#

they did

#

I was quite surprised how much better it was during the beta

#

since normally DICE "toning something down" = tiny little nudge

solid hinge
#

I want to see more gameplay of Hamada

#

The big North African map

plush flume
#

i didnt play the alpha, was the snow really that bad?

dense bone
#

i played cqc in arctic and did great

rough smelt
#

snow was terrible

#

in the alpha

dense bone
#

map was ok

rough smelt
#

constantly in your face

#

quite sure it fucked with performance on lower end systems

plush flume
#

like the footage of the alpha i could tell but i didnt know if it was full on

dense bone
#

ahh from alpha to beta it changed a lot?

pure veldt
#

it wasnt just flakes either it was full blown snow storm dust

rough smelt
#

it did

dense bone
#

i mean, that sounds cool imo

pure veldt
#

just a smattering of wind blown crap stimulating your brain to max while trying to detect troop movement

#

sounds good on paper, plays like sh**

dense bone
#

i think i would get killed a lot less by snipers in that case

solid hinge
#

I’m loving the new gun mechanics in battlefield v

#

Feels so good to learn the recoil and master a weapon

dense bone
#

oh yea, i played bfv before bf1, and bf1 feels like poo to me

plush flume
#

coming back to bf1 after the bfv beta was scuffed for a bit

#

you can really tell how different it is

solid hinge
#

All the comments about bfv=bf1

#

Those get me every time

dense bone
#

i paid 10 bucks for bf1, honestly id rather pay 10 bucks for bfv beta in its current state than bf1

solid hinge
#

yeah

#

Only thing similar is the looks because it’s on the same engine and maybe similar hud

#

was the trailer released

dense bone
#

guns and movement felt so good in bfv

fickle sluice
#

@solid hinge single player one? Yes

solid hinge
#

ooh

#

im gonna go watch it

fickle sluice
#

Go ahead,It is pretty good

pure veldt
#

i forgot how bfv felt lol

#

i didnt like assault weaps

dense bone
#

felt weighty, but not heavy, felt more realistic, bf1 feels floaty

#

guns had kick but you can manage

brittle imp
#

Trailer looked real good

pure veldt
#

im more a bf4 laser bullet guy lol

#

where you pick based on RPM ;P

brittle imp
#

Bf4 later bullet is stupid

dense bone
#

felt like skill was more important

#

yea thats difference

brittle imp
#

Laser*

solid hinge
#

I like the no grenade spam or explosives spam

pure veldt
#

im not sure it's skill so much as patience which i have zero of lol

dense bone
#

the spumoni is hard to control, but oh so satisfying to get good at

#

and yea, no nade spam is glorious

pure veldt
#

i can acquire but im VERY fidgety like i get too excited and want to keep firing

#

so this is a lesson in futility

solid hinge
#

I like attrition and squad play though some adjustments had to be made and it did

pure veldt
#

i fail at rocket league sometimes because i just get way too fkin excited and cant calm down

dense bone
#

i was fine with it, i played solo medic and was usually #1 in game, only felt attrition was a problem here and there

fickle sluice
#

They brought back airfields which u take off from them which is AWESOME

#

Atleats in Hamada mal

#

map*

solid hinge
#

oh the trailer

pure veldt
#

so the problem i have is i prefer low RPM weapons like the SCAR-H , but in WW1/2 the low RPM weaps are much more severely hindered imo as the kick is much higher requiring adjustments each shot

solid hinge
#

is

brittle imp
#

Honestly singleplayer trailer was amazing

solid hinge
#

food

#

it reminds me of how the trailers were done for bf1

pure veldt
#

i may just have to learn to use high rpm weaps with less kick

brittle imp
#

If I see hate posts on reddit about that trailer we just cant win

pure veldt
#

there will be hate

plush flume
#

everything gets hate

pure veldt
#

people also will be interpreted wrong, like me.. i had to realize that wasnt targeted at ME to make me feel engaged in multiplayer

#

i had my own agenda when i clicked play and had to step back and chill out because it wasnt for that purpose

#

i rarely ever finish any single player campaign and dont care about it

plush flume
#

i get you

pure veldt
#

the people offended wont ever change, but we can ask better discovery questions to make people start thinking differently 😉

solid hinge
#

i always finish the campaigns on the hardest difficulty before playing multiplayer

#

gets me ready and used to the game

pure veldt
#

like being married.. dont get tilted if your wife just goes off the rails.. realize something has to be wrong and try to get to the bottom of it, lol

#

i dont have near enough patience for hard mode

solid hinge
#

same

#

but

cerulean knot
#

I must be the only one wishes that the Last Tiger would be about the Tiger Aces

solid hinge
#

i start playing multiplayer better than everyone else

#

i just want a german perspective

#

nobody ever sees the bad guys pov

#

I’m surprised nothing has gotten out of hand yet like battlefield has a good community

#

Actually way better than most games

#

yeah

obsidian fossil
#

so is there gonna be a german pilot warstory?

#

id love that

solid hinge
#

i d k

#

bf is way to casual to get too toxic

#

I was hoping for one being told from the Japanese side or American side

#

i want an axis

obsidian fossil
#

who knows, they might add one

solid hinge
#

Battlefield doesn’t have a bad community like it’s so rare I find someone screaming in my squad

#

or the soviets as operation barbosa was acted

#

There’s only so much they could add since ww2 had a lot of major and minor conflicts

obsidian fossil
#

except for pLAy THE OBJECTIVE YOU AIDS MONKEYS

solid hinge
#

And major and minor story’s

#

i never get mad when playing battlefield

obsidian fossil
#

i wnatnt dday

solid hinge
#

even when i die because of bad reasoons

#

and im always laughing more than getting angry

obsidian fossil
#

true

solid hinge
#

bf is really fun when you are playing witha friend and just fucking around

obsidian fossil
#

yEs

#

playing bf with a squad is great

solid hinge
#

i remember in bf4

#

Battlefield games in general are very good

#

me and my friend were being pizza delivery guys

#

as we drove around on the quad bike

#

while the man on the back had c4

#

or driving quad bikes with 3 c4 into tanks and blowing them up

obsidian fossil
#

jeeepstuff

solid hinge
#

yeah

#

that was a long time ago

obsidian fossil
#

yeah

#

anyways, still real hyped for bfv

solid hinge
#

i just really want a soviet campaign as they first get suprised and constantly pushed back by the germans

#

watching them be confused and wondering what was happening while everyone exploded around them

obsidian fossil
#

i just want a he-111

solid hinge
#

same

#

i hope there is more than 1 axis or soviet pov

obsidian fossil
#

yeah

#

theres the last tiger

#

and there was also a german pilot

#

so im hopeful

solid hinge
#

there was alot of snow

#

so im hoping that was siberia

#

russia

obsidian fossil
#

probably norway though

solid hinge
#

yeah

#

i dont hate the allies

#

i just think their perspectives gets pushed

#

without out us seeing the german perspective

#

as alot of their troops were czechoslovakian

#

and austrian

#

Hopefully the last tiger gives a good idea of the German perspective

#

Speaking of which a lot of content is coming post launch for battlefield v

#

yeah im excited about that

#

i heard somewhere that the last tiger

#

would be at the end of the war

#

and they would see what the germans had done

#

and switched sides

#

i hope it isnt that

#

and i dont know if it will be correct

#

i just hope it isnt

#

True

rough smelt
#

it's stated that the last tiger is about a german tank crew questioning the ideology that put them in the position they're in atm

#

basically "wtf did we get ourselves into"

solid hinge
#

yeah

#

they wouldnt of been like that though

#

they would of been to scared to say anything

#

everyone could snitch

obsidian fossil
#

yee haw kill them nazis

solid hinge
#

yee haw kill them commies

#

there better be a mission of the germans defending stalingrad against the russians

#

and just russian troops pouring in

obsidian fossil
#

yES

#

STAliNGrad

solid hinge
#

as you try to kill as many as you could before you get overrun

obsidian fossil
#

yessssss

solid hinge
#

because 10 million did die ther

obsidian fossil
#

and the buildings just crumble

solid hinge
#

it was something like 95% of the deaths at stalingrad were russian

#

except most of the sources have been deleated

#

most say the russians lost around 1 million

#

but stalin told the troops, 'do not lose stalingrad as it bears my name'

sullen mist
#

I get the feeling the Last Tiger might show off the tank crew in their previous battles like North Africa as seen in the trailer until their last mission in Germany in the last days of ww2

gray glade
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the only bummer there is that "the last tiger" will come in december

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instead of at release

solid hinge
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god

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im gonna get going to work though

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cya!

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I just rewatched the 16 years of battlefield trailer shown at the initial reveal event

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Cya @solid hinge

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And with all the new resources has allowed dice to make beautiful looking games for battlefield and other games

pure veldt
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yea its crazy how good everything looks even on full low

solid hinge
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Omg I just lost more faith in people

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There are actual uneducated people in the new trailer for battlefield v

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Like people don’t know blacks fought for the French and female Norwegian fighters were a thing

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Top comment was” not enough white men”

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And let’s not forget it’s untold stories of ww2

rough smelt
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and this is why again, you install extensions to block youtube comments

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save your sanity

solid hinge
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I just lost some

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Another top comment was about political correctness even though this stuff did exist in ww2

fickle sluice
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some people just hate for the sake of itFeelsDefenceMan

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like seriously I find comments saying bf1 is like BFV

dense bone
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the problem with stupid people, is that there are way more than smart people
and since they have numbers they feel empowered

fickle sluice
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and they are TOTALLY different

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Yeah true lel

dense bone
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and feel "correct"

solid hinge
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This is just funny to watch.

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Sometimes.

obsidian fossil
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🍿

dense bone
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to me its frustrating to know people like this exist

obsidian fossil
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it is

tacit tartan
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That moment when you did the road to BFV and thought you get some new skins for your character on bf1 ...

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But it's on bfv 😦

toxic briar
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Oof

dense bone
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lol

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thats great

toxic briar
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And I like the untold stories thing but I do like to see some more well known things portrayed

dense bone
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i mean, hasnt that happened in just about every other ww2 game before?

toxic briar
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Ya but o wanna see dice do it

dense bone
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hasnt dice done that?

toxic briar
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Like years ago

dense bone
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... so you want a remaster basically?

toxic briar
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No

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I just want to see dice do some of the more well known ones, cuz they make really good looking games

dense bone
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a different/updated interpretation of something they have done already

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as a studio it makes sense they are doing something different

toxic briar
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Well ya

dense bone
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i mean, in fps setting i cant imagine a setting more explored than ww2

toxic briar
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I know that ya can't spit out the same shit every year, although that apparently works for some things

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I kinda wanted a Vietnam or Korean War game more then WW2

dense bone
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understandable

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i really dont care about setting at all, as long as gameplay is good

toxic briar
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See I really like a good campaign and setting

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Like a good campaign is something that really gets me going for a game

dense bone
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ah, yea i dont play a lot of campaigns

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im mp basically

toxic briar
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Ya I mainly play MP but I'll play through a campaign a bunch of times if it's good

dense bone
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ive only played 2 campaigns multiple times

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thats the last of us and super mario world

toxic briar
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The main ones I play over again a few times are all of the starcrafts and I'll play a few missions of BF3/4/1 sometimes

obsidian fossil
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the setting is quite important to me, as i love ww2 history, but overall, its a game. Gameplay is the most important

toxic briar
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Ya

charred dawn
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I just unlocked the Peacekeeper!

toxic briar
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I've tried to do the EE but it's hard on console

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I got close with the Fort De Vaux one but I couldn't get the grenade bit

zealous void
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oof

cedar bronze
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Low key I know why people don’t like bfv

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Notice how when the trailer was posted everyone fucking loved it?

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I look back now and people are hating it. Im thinking that the people who hate the game, DONT EVEN PLAY BATTLEFIELD.

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I honestly feel the community loves this game, but so many fucking people who play red dead and COD are saying it’s shit.

sacred junco
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Horrible marketing moves and BF as a franchise is already too fragmented to really satisfy all of its potential basis.

cedar bronze
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A ton of people from cod went to bf1, cod doesn’t ever change so when they play Battlefield and it changes they get pissy

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Yes and I regret it

sacred junco
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Mind you I rather liked BF1 but don't really like BF4

cedar bronze
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Absolutely nothing,

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Cod is the same shit, small maps, kill streaks, fast paced, same movement point in maps

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I literally own almost every cod game

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What’s so different from cod now

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Just because you can slide doesn’t mean it’s new. it’s nothing new to the players. Other games can do that

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That’s why in the beta I got a kill streak of 7,8,9 and 11 but in cod I get 2 kill and die

sacred junco
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Advanced Warfare was pretty different

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3d movement does change up the dynamic quite a bit

cedar bronze
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For a year

sacred junco
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maps were rather large for CoD

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Pub BF is a more casual experience than CoD imo

icy sluice
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Maps all play the same in CoD

cedar bronze
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They are

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Same entry points

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Left middle right

icy sluice
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Every map has the same layout, therefore they're all pretty much one map just different paint jobs

sacred junco
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At least its not MW2

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and tbh at least they are engineered to work within the objective of CoD

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BF has maps that are just absolutely laughable considering the scale and intent of game

wispy cloak
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I can’t find like any bf1 lobbies

solid hinge
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Are we ever gonna settle the dispute between battlefield and call of duty. They are two different games and can’t be compared

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Call of duty is a fast paced type shooter with 5-6 people per team while battlefield is a large scale shooter with vehicles and multiple different ways to play with 64 players

sacred junco
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Yeah ppl need to stop brining CoD up

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Whatever issues people have with modern BF is not explainable by bringing up CoD

rocky valley
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not real. WW2 was in black and white

solid hinge
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yeah

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ww2 was before colour was invented

frozen knoll
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back in my day we didn'teven have edges on images

dense bone
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whatever issues people have with modern bf is not explainable by bringing up the BEST selling fps year after year after year?

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like bf doesnt look towards cod to match their success?

frozen knoll
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bf doesn't

dense bone
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...

frozen knoll
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but their fans usually do

dense bone
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youre an absolute fool if you dont think devs are not taking outside sources to inspire their games, ESPECIALLY from the most popular shooter out there

frozen knoll
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i didn't say that

cerulean knot
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At this point, I just want to finished the mid-term and play the game

dense bone
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you literally just said bf doesnt do that

frozen knoll
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"like bf doesnt look towards cod to match their success?"

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success=sells

indigo tusk
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So what I'm guessing is that the prologue is in rotterdam

sacred junco
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I know it does

dense bone
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so youre saying bf is content being 2nd place and never hopes to surpass cod