#battlefield-legacy-titles
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Operations cycle has been fucked
I have 2000 more points I need to get and I need to suffer through an entire operation

well if possible, use the server browser to get on a server with the last map of the operation campaign\
also, I need about 25 score one of my operation campaigns 
There's no happy medium in operations
It's either you get fucking curbstomped or you destroy the enemy
Which battlefield has the most OCE activity on pc?
@quiet escarp facts
last time I played it was so "balanced"
other team had like 10 more players
in bf1
and theyre just spawn camping us lmao
Can't wait to get bf4
u mean bf5?
Browser properly configured?
...huh
Doesn't PC have more people than Xbox?
idk nvm
Wait on Origin do you need origin premiere/access to get bf4 premium edition
Actually, I think Battlefieldtracker isn't good for looking at servers
I looked at Xbox, I am pretty sure there are more than that
Yeah and then I looked at Xbox
oh
They have the same amount of servers apparently, so it's gotta just be battlefieldtracker
Todd dude i want fallout 5
What do you guys think about all those huge vehicles like b 29 or b 17 that could be op or the opposite and get nerfed in bf5
:๐ฆ
i mean anti air was a lot more powerful in ww2 so b29s and b17s wouldnt be too much use

normal dmg, vehicle spawn speed, outline enemy when death, tagged enemies?
since server can change these things just like bf1
also if u played bf1 bf4 is just pretty easy lol
(everything besides vehicles)
๐ joined a conquest game a little more than half over, I had a highlight for most revives with 12 - server was mostly full
Should I play bf today
maybe, you got any other plans?
Should I preorder?
How come you can't report BF1 servers for admin abuse? thats just dumb af
Same thing with BF4 all servers have stupid restrictions like no C4 Jeeps or whatever
i was in 24/7 Fort De Vaux, no camp and some other wierd stuff, the admin only wrote in all caps and went off on other players, kicked from the enemy team as he pleased, after two games of losing i had enough, im now perm banned from the server, i have screenshots of how he was toxic towards other players and then banning them, i tried to spectate and he caught me while i tried to record his toxicity, i ask again how is there no Server report.
Guys, do you think frontlines is a good gamemode?
If so, why do you think it doesn't get more popular?
In my opinion it provides the best balance between large scale fights, having some use of vehicles and being mainly an infantry gamemode.
And this is my honest opinion on why it doesn't get more popular at the same time.
I believe way too many people play battlefield and wants to play the vehicles from time to time, and also people who really don't want to know anything about vehicles.
So i guess having only one vehicle, is enough for some to dislike the gamemode and having only one is also a reason for others to dislike it too
Also, I believe people like way too much 64p gamemodes.
Thoughts?
@silk fractal there should totally be a way to report servers and server owners-mods imho.
Back to basics needs a revive make it the weekly mode again but leave out the pilot/tanker weapons
quick question: how long will the discount last for bf1?
I am just getting tired of BF1 recently
I think there's a notion within most Battlefield players that bigger = better
So naturally the 64 player modes would be the most popular
@glossy mango the free maps or the discount?
I honestly think it will end once the map packs arenโt free anymore
So for me thatโs Wednesday Tuesday for you depending on Timezone
is bf1 dead?
No
dont lie
looks pretty non-dead to me
tru
This is the first time that I see more PC players then PS4 players
Those near free deals make wonders
console audience is generally larger portion of the playerbase
uh like 90k cross all consoles ๐ค
@pulsar valve @wary mason where did you guys get the stat from?
https://thetrackernetwork.com/ tracks stats for multiple games
it sucks that bf games are always dead on xbox
thats why you should join the masterrace
not much of a gamer anyway im more of a casual
PS4 usually has more players then Xbox and pc
yup
Nya! Nya!
Crossplay is coming
Guys ๐ญ
I cant play BF1
Matchmaking failed ..
I can join in operations then any operation but i cant choose conquest..
What should i do
Use server browser and set your filters properly
Ok
hmmm ... no operations ... much sad , so not wow
all my custom operations filters show no server
but if i go to most general search they are there
I can't find a single operation or conquest that isn't either full or empty, filters cleaned, but I'm 99% positive the servers are having some kind of problem as many of the legendary weapons I had unlocked through the the puzzle pieces show up as still missing some pieces ( plus I have 20+ battlepacks that didn't exist yesterday)
The battlepacks are a gift from dice. Everyone got 25
Though servers on PC are wonky
There are 3 OP servers up
Alright, still, what about the legendary weapons?
Oh wow
An Anti Tank Grenade just landed by me
Couldent do anything
So unlucky ._.
i cleared the filters and between conquest, operations, and assault operations there's only 1 game available since 20 minutes ago, i'm in europe btw
(and it's the same server )
there is only one empty and the full ones all have 5-15 players in queue
why is everyin fucking BF1 server full with 10 people in queue
my bad, scrolling fast, still, there's not even one with less than 5 people in queue
is there a national holiday somwhere where the populace is forced to play BF1 today
wtf is going on
alright, the legendary weapons came back from the dead
play BF3 ps3 EU
BF1 PC broken?
I knew bf1 is on it's way out, i just didn't thought they gonna shut the servers down so soon 
BF3 still has servers up?
@ea less features, more stable infrastructure > my wish for the future
Is it just me or does bf4 still seem better than BF1 and BFV
Personal preference
@hazy obsidian i hate bf4.. Probably cus i suck at it lol.
@void igloo I'm not the best at it but when I'm super stoned I do really good
Idk it still seems somewhat Casual to me, I personally just don't like that because I can't find another good game like BF4
BFV releases November 22 right?
I believe so
Something like that
cool
I'm might get bf5 if I can so I can actually decide whether or not I like it
OwO
but the performance from server to server.. meh
@hazy obsidian u played the beta?
Did Dice closed down all the HK servers?
and for my taste too many heavy vehicles
@elegy I played one match on the beta, at a friend's house
Shit my bad
@fickle sluice
Hey to each their own tho
True true
ok
U on ps4 ? @tight slate
no pc
Mmm.. Reset slots to none.. Instead of having 1-5 or something like that.. Is on the multiplayer server stuff
My slots are always NONE, 1-5, 6-10
i love bf โค
It looks like all the official servers are down?
Maybe
I can't tell if that's a good thing
Oh wait, I don't think we can host Operations servers...
So if it's down, that means Operations, one of the most popular game types has been killed unless an update allowed it to happen
So what's up with the official servers
Is there any update on when they're gonna be back
So, it looks like it's a PC only thing
As on Xbox, I see Official servers as far as the eye can see
If official servers are down permanently, player owned servers should be able to host Operations as well.
Maybe make custom Operations rotations?
Why would official servers be down permanently
Battlefield V, I dunno
don`t work
Any official news on the servers?
Custom servers are full of shit
Most here on Console are pretty good, most run by platoons. I dunno about there though
Yep, only 2 operations servers on PC, something is fuggy
you have to play on customs
its torture but if you want to play there is no other option
Guys is there any official news about servers? They all died ๐ฆ
console happiness increased
worry increased
rip bf1
bfv suddenly console only
Go buy ps4 asap lol
wtf is wrong with bf1 servers
Are all the DICE servers down in BF1?
I cannot find a single DICE server
and 10 people are queing to play on everry sever
The fuck is going on?
I just took a tank inside ballroom blitz and got 30-0 lol
who is going to buy BFV?
i think it looks pretty fun
and that its based off of ww2, not a simulation of it
Got deluxe version
I always prefer waiting for the game to release then buy it if I like it,but it is up to you after all
I had alot of time in the beta
and I enjoyed it tho
Anyone still play BF4 on 360m
i think ill wait till the servers actually run properly
because they never do when a bf game is just released
that will also give me time to see what it looks like
dat feel when wanting to play bf1 but servers don't work
What's wrong witch BATTLEFIELD 1 servers ????
This is joke
No empty servers
No game
I was doing an ace round when the ridiculous lag came in, hate custom servers
I joined a server, you got no points for anything and you could only play support
Bf 1there are not enough servers
Everyone playing BO4 thats why bf1 servers are down lol
I swear to God if there isn't an option to disable hitmarkers in the campaign I'ma be pissed
Can't you do that already in the campaign of BF1?
No I mean if it isn't in bfv because cod took out the option
Well, there was still crosshair and hit indicator customization just like BF1, so I reckon you should be able to
Even change the visibility iirc
is double hit registration a thing in battlefield1? BFV had this issue
seems like i'm getting dinged all the time and die instantly by telescopic machinegun guys from a mile away
who wants to play bf4
Xbox360?
@solid hinge @mellow carbon We have LFG channels for PC, PS4, and Xbox when people are around to play.
Ah sorry boss
oh noes.... you've totally riled up a chat room by shitting on the official discord! Oh the horror!
why not both ๐
It's fun 
Battlefield series for the win. Lol
Reasons I dont play call of duty... Small maps, no team play, toxic community.
Small maps, no team play
That doesn't apply to blackout. 
CoD is fast placed
No quality
Sad

your pfp has more quality than cod
This is Stalin in form of a baguette
hahaha nice
of course it is quality
Because it is art 
Anyone knows what the fuck is going on with offical dice servers?
are the servers still full/no servers ?
I've been trying to play since this morning, not even a glimpse of communication from DICE?
( i'm in europe, so i've been trying to play since like 12 hours ago )
@tight apex love that name ๐
@weak fog Thanks bro, Andy Gibson is a powerful name as well
It's a Randy name๐๐
I shouldn't say that๐๐
Shit bag haha
I'm not a psychic but if I had to guess your name is Andy and you were born in 1994.
You saw nothing ๐๐
Am I right or am I right?
He is a keyboard warrior, and canโt do shit without a medic train haha
@tight apex I donโt know how you done it, but your correct
Guys guess what... matchmaking failed. I'm considering those Antartica servers ...
@weak fog sixth sense
Haha๐
๐ ๐ ๐
He loves my medic train @weak fog
Your the problem!! Haha
lol
battlefield sucks gtfo
Like mate
go join the army
if u love battlefield that much
dude fuck off
BO4 is the fucking goat yโall r just trash at fps
or, simply ignore the obvious troll and carry on
nah I kinda want to point out that BO4 isn't going to have a competitive scene since the skill celling is fucking low
and neither will BF becase the game isn't designed around it and nothing they do will fix that, so your attempts either way are moot.
Battlefield at least has a semi functional recoil model
and a good pilot in battlefield can carry a match for an entire team (in BF3/BF4), so I'd say there is a skill celling there
He isnโt more on this server
most likely got kicked
"let me join a place I don't like and act like a dick, totally won't get punted for that"
ppl are dumb
film at 11
WEEEOOUUUWWWW
nyEEEEEEEEeEOooOOoOiiI

I mean, it's quite obvious where to drop bombs if you pay attention to the map flow
hANS
Yeah
But usual I see the enemy soldiers with marker or without
In BF5 I only Bombed points
As shit as the plane physics are.. I can actually use them
couldn't fly jets for shit in bf3/4
here?
annoying, but it works
i hate that the stuka doesnt have underwing bombs, so you have to reload every time
I donโt even tryed Dogfights in
xD
theyy arent fun
dogfights are terrible
the planes have no acceleration, and their turning speed is fixed and isn't changed due to momentum
Just flying weird moves and the enemy plane donโt want to give it me from behind
energy fighting isnt even a thing, so you just spin in circles and out turn the opponent if youre in a 109
which.. is also lacking
^
I don't understand it
I'm not asking for shit to be War Thunder
but come on
i mean, i wouldn't miind warthunder level plane physics, but yeah
Why is youโre name โsoldatenโ? 
tanks feel like tanks, other ground vehicles for the msot part feel as they should
planes?
fuck no for some reason
soldaten is soldier in german
oooh misread
Why not just โSoldatโ in Singular?
didn't like how it sounded
Soldaten sounds weird in this form 
and it was a username so I didn't give a fuck U:
wehraboos
Nep Nep culture
nep the nep
Nep the Neptune
Let's keep this #battlefield-legacy-titles themed, yeah lads?
is this lossy
I much prefer bf3 / bf4 flying over bfv
What's with the bf1 servers?
I can't get into a game because the few servers that are showing up are all full with a full que. checked the filters and something is definitely up. Has there been any announcement yet on a fix?
Seems like more players like you have this problem
Yeah it looks like this is a PC only problem
I was able to play effortlessly when everyone was having this server issue
Official servers and everything, so... PC and PS4 are having this issue?
why are there no operations serveres?
for battlefield 1 on pc?
Seems like something is broke atm with their servers
so dumb
I'm so ready for bfv
Same
I want to buy a 2070 to play it
Supposedly a benchmark got out showing its better than 1080 but I need confirmation rtx can be disabled..
I want rtx for other games but I need my fps games > 100 fps
Upgrade to 1080ti or buy 2nd 1070?๐ค
Never been a fan of SLI, not enough solid support and upgrade path is harder
Fork the 1070 to eBay or Facebook marketplace ;P
Hmmm
Maybe wait for next nvidea, non rushed cards?
I just hope bfV is optomised
In bf1 at launch i got 120+ fps on ultra. Now i get like 70-90
All these updates
Hahaha I'd be happy with more than 20-30
Oof....nobody plays on 360
1440 @pure veldt
165hz๐
I always find it funny people with 144fps but only a 60 hz monitor
You can't see above 60hz bruh! ๐
I won't be playing til I decide what to buy
I had to turn all the extra filters off
This was on low lol
Made me feels sluggish and sick playing
Turned it off and went from bottom player to top as medic xD
I mean competitive players turn most everything down anyway
I mean who plays with bloody film grain and shit on xD
I wanna see enemies in my tanks wingmirrors with rtx๐
Actually I'm looking at some min vs ultra screenshots and notice sunlight is worse with min
I need to look through some suggested settings again
Tbh I just want to run my monitor at the 120 it can go with my card, even in BF1 I'm still only hitting 80-90 or so ๐
โ
I've got a 1440x3440 and a 1080, can't run more than that on low
yesterday all the DICE servers where gone
So I had to play on a custom server
Everyone was rank 150
It was the most boring experience ever
Everyone running around with meta weapons only doing meta tactics
It was so immensly boring
yeah yesterday was awful
I can't even fucking reserve a slot on this server
It just gets stuck on "Reserving slot"
Playing against people with fucking 100 service stars on annihilator. I mean how much fun can there be?
I dunno I like custom servers
They foster an actual community and you have the same regular dudes
Why do people hate tight knit community servers they're full of regulars and it's a bit like joining a pub
Tbh I only play on the custom non-dice servers
Feels good to beat people without using the beta weapons ๐
@shadow widget they were for a while
Everyone has premium now. Why pay for it then. Lol
I use to be able to log in server faster
You wouldn't pay for it now
what why
But back when the game was new you'd pay for it and get two years of quick access
Because it's randomly free?
Bf 4 is quiet now

I get 600-1200 ping in bf1. Im lvl 52. Unplayable. Been trying to fix wifi.
Its just slow out here. Sattelite wifi. They just replace the motem when we call them. Which helps for a bit, then no more.
... you play games online by wifi... Lol
That's full bullshit.
I've played online games even on a 3g net
I know many people who play on satellite wifi and they play fine
So much lag doesn't seem normal.
Hope you get some fix soon cosmonaut
I even have a friend that almost lives in the north pole and he plays wimax with no issues
Is there any info about party system in BFV? If I want to play with, lets say 10 of my friends, will we be able to join server like in BF1 - 10 of us all together or we will enter in squads 4 + 4 + 2 and try to be on one side once we are on server?
No idea, but why would it change to be less friendly?
bfv has a serverbrowser, at least in the beta
you can't really join a server with 10 people instantly like in the partysystem
what is everyones favourite battlefield
im just curious
i have the most hours in bf4
but bf1 is probably my favourite
I've only played bf1 and the beta for bfv but I'm gonna say bfv
I have maybe 200 something hours in bf1
Maybe more
I played it a lot but then took a long break
And got it a year after launch
It would've been cool if they did a war story on that guy who used a bow and arrow in WW2
I think he escaped two German camps and stuff after his capture on an assault on a hill
i wish they did a german perspective on the war as a war stories
but in the same way as they did like the italian one in bf1
how they are patriotic and are fighting for their country
even the tank one
Hey guys, are bf1 servers on PC still dead?
well I was having problems with road to bfv scraps and soldier customization but I was able to play
as of two minutes ago
@indigo tusk You're talking about Mad Jack Churchill. Only combatant with a confirmed kill with a bow during WWII, went into action with a longbow, a claymore, a set of bagpipes, and all his usual infantry kit as well.
@solid hinge Without a doubt Bad Company 2 retail. Best infantry/vehicle balance IMO, before they caved to the helo pilot whining and repeatedly nerfed the muzzle velocity on the tracer dart.
is battlefield 5 going to get a discounted price on december and if so how much?
Battlefield is better than call of duty, who agrees?
@glossy mango at least 99%
@solid hinge finally, someone answered! thanks for the info
There's no official word on it but as far as I know in the BETA you could only play with 3 friends making up a squad of 4. This was the max of people you can play with and remain in the same team without being moved around due to balancer or whatever.
@ivory oyster
Also, there wasn't an option to move team and I don't expect to see one.
i got a good clip yesterday of me rushing at a tank on Fort Foas and as they exited the vehicle i gunned them down and then meleed the mechanic
got 5 kills and wiped squad
Why Bf 1 not historical peace of shit?????????

Woman with Lourens Arabian Wtf???
i never struggle to get into a server

When you have a whole city power outage
And modders of this discord why you deleting my true messages???
Dang it

your true messages?
modders 
@pulsar valve the modder 
good bye my dude
Yes Woman with Loirens Arabian it ia not historical
loirens
Fun while it lasted

See ya 

I am a modder now
You saw nothing 

you modded his civil state into "historically accurate" 

should go for lunch... cba to move from desk
๐ i will
I have paella aswell at home
i have a home at home


got so many good clips on bf1 this weekend
#streams-and-videos lemme see
i'm at work... i don't have access to them

i will upload to twitter and link to #streams-and-videos tomorrow
why u can't upload images here ๐ฆ
:supersad:

#PreventsSpam
you could never trust me


Oof good weapon

i probably have.. i tend to get taken out by planes
a bomber will avoid all the map to aim for me
from now on Monte Grappa isn't Monte Kappa anymore, but Krappa. HormigaZ Dixit
have a nice one!
What time do you find the most number of players?
right after dinner time eu
Like 9-10 pm?
yeah and a bit before that
many european countries have dinner like 6pm and so but i meant around 7 to 10 yeah
Depends of the timezone ๐
and I mean GMT-1
But bf1 has gained a good amount of players on pc last few weeks
So getting in a match 24/7 isnt a problem
i wasn't even mad. holy shit he came down like superman and oneshot everyone with a revolver
i almost choked laughing
coz i had called him cheater before
but we were having a "decent" fight
@sleek tartan how many hours till dinner for you now ?
So I'll have to log in at 11pm my zone
@wary mason gib that jรถsses emote
Gib 

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What's the best sniper rifle in bf1 ?
@rocky verge get a generator
remember to dig a hole in ground so it won't make neighbours bad
the best sniper rifle is the M1917
okay no i stop troll... there's just no best one.
They each try to have different uses for different ranges
but I like the lebel a lot
For places with poor electricity getting a UPS might be a really good investment.

@solid hinge that won't work ech
Everyone should get one for the pc imho
Surge protector outlets extensions are enough tbh
True
Not really. They usually are rated for a given surge power.
if you have a ups between your pc and the wall
its usually a bit safer
plus, the worst part is having to power up again and loosing work or whatever
smoke is stupid on conquestl...
i started to use smoke yesterday to capture flags
worked well
nothing beats gas grenades though
Throw smoke then fire into smoke
man
you also can hide
the fog in the maps makes it so difficult to navigate through
Hate it when your in plane and it comes out
or 
Really annoying
assault is good during fog
which can help to get your team points
and good flanks
Fog is really annoying
even tanks are hidden
For any class
it's only when the cannon goes bang you see a slight fire lol
brother come over from Germany, sends a selfie of him playing bf1 on my ps4 
The war comes home in #Battlefield Vโs single-player War Stories.
October 16, 2018
Subscribe to see the full trailer: https://t.co/cGPyk0i8sr

New Trailer tomorrow!

i wonder if the comment section will be a shit show
explain @inland valley
people saying "#everyonesbattlefield"or something like it
@inland valley thats for the women in battlefield
i know but still
Still what
the comments are going to be a shit show
its going to be a short trailer
yeah
short but sweet
hopefully not like the reavel
War stories is awsome
we will see
i think it's a great way to get a story across and expand it across the globe
i really want to play the last tiger
reveal trailer was great
I came here because I know people in this discord are true battlefield fans.
indeed

very
i'm the biggest battlefield fan
I donโt like seeing hate comments on BFV trailers
i have it tattooed on my chest 
i love bf
This restored faith in humanity for me

am fine with war stories as a concept but the execution was bad in BF 1

Iโm surprised we get to play as a German in BFV war stories
Yes
true @cedar bronze
Most games donโt even want swastikas in their games. Let alone you killing allied soldiers
i know in berlin they don't mention hitlers name... they call him something else... voldamort 
xd
Lmao
Germany only recently lifted the ban on games with swastika/s
Lot of the battlefield community is German I know
๐คซ
we know squid... we know
how?
cough cough cough cough Youtube
It blows my mind people think the Battlefield channel is โdeletingโ dislikes off their trailers
wait people believe that
Iโm like โexcuse me, what the fuckโ
Yea, sadly they do

I saw a comment talking about getting the dislikes to 1 mil, and a reply said they canโt because their deleting the dislikes

I believe half the comment section is just COD kids.
and the other half fortnite kids
No one is that stupid and plays battlefield legit

"It's, only game why you hafe to be,mad"
Dunno why everyone rags on fortnite.
Is it just for the sake of being reactionary or what?
Popular things are always trendy to hate on
Right, right, people are fuckin' idiots. I keep forgetting that there's a reason I'm a misanthrope.
well say @wary mason

Flawless logic
your logic
Then why would you tell me, I just stated something that's true. Neither I supported or meant it as if I accept it.
Just to hate something without reason is pretty dumb
Also, comparing hating something, even if leaving hate comments with killing is somewhat dumb and I would not go on this path if I were you
The BFV beta kinda ruined BF1 for me.
same
The gunplay just feels so bad.
ikr
That said, there's a nonzero chance I'm gonna be tanking a lot in BFV even with the really solid infantry gunplay. I like what they've done to tanks.
yep.. once u played bfv bf1 changed
for me it felt easier
as gunplay in bfv was strategic unlike bf1 guns r better than others
Hoping the Churchill GC gets a bit of a bump in effectiveness somewhere, it wasn't bad, but it took some real finesse to use. I feel like the loss of flexibility in engagement compared to a turreted vehicle should have come with a bit more in exchange. Either more ammo stowage, or a better HE round, or something.
Also kinda sad that tanks didn't come with AP and HE by default. Would have spiced things up a bit to give them something sort of akin to a historical load-out, say 3/4th HE and 1/4th AP.
I sort of get why they just come with magic do-it-all rounds, but it's a missed opportunity I think.
i'm preordering next Thursday... payday ๐
I preordered the deluxe edition a month ago ๐
i'm going to get the deluxe
wish we could get dog tags with the deluxe.. like a physical copy of one
FG42 fanboy shet up we get it
Make your own, they're just steel wafers with text punched into them.
i don't have the time to do that lol
@south lynx ap is deadly too
found some online... may wait until bfv drops then get one
it has detonator inside so shrapnel guaranteed
Eh, not exactly.
APHE rounds tended to have fuse delays that resulted in them traveling some distance, usually 0.3-0.5m or so before detonating.
They also had varying levels of sensitivity.
And not everyone used APHE.
Some nations simply used AP.
APCBC is a construction abbreviation, not a specific round.
Gr. Patr. 38 HL
Filler weights varied by round.
510 g
Not sure what your point is with random weights there.
Yes they had filler, it wasn't enough to make APHE particularly effective vs infantry. In fact, it didn't materially enhance its effectiveness vs tank crews.
explosive filler
British did studies of average casualties per penetration and found no difference between solid shot and filled shot when it came to crew losses.
Part of why they stuck with solid shot throughout the war.
what I'm arguing here is
most shells used by Germans had explosive filler so you could kill infantry yes
The point wasn't to kill infantry.
In fact, APHE was extremely poor at engaging infantry.
Due to the factors I mentioned already.
my was
"Eh, not exactly."
please go next to 18g of rdx if you think its not deadly
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APHE rounds had very low proportional fill weight, which resulted in most of the bursting charge energy being expended simply deforming the round.
I never said that, quit being a dick.
HE rounds result in a better fragment dispersion, and are fuzed to detonate instantly, resulting in actually useful fragmentation. APHE detonates late and produces less energetic fragments due to the lower filler weight, dramatically reducing its lethality, and rendering it largely unsuitable for anti-infantry work.
Ladies... put the handbags away 
APHE fuses are less sensitive in addition, which means they often won't detonate on softer surfaces such as common structural materials.
do you have to copy paste Wikipedia here
So the point is: APHE is a shitty round to engage infantry with.
This is from memory, I've argued this topic before.
we can search ourself too
That the best reply you've got?
well at least I don't have wiki open currently
Also, regarding your pithy little 18g of RDX quip, here's a nice survivability study on explosive blasts: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a286212.pdf
18g is only gonna hurt if you're pretty much lying on it.
The only way that charge is doing any real damage is via fragmentation, and that depends heavily on the fill ratio, which is far too low on APHE to yield optimal fragmentation.
HE rounds optimized for fragmentation tend to go for as high a fill ratio as can be achieved, with a lightweight fragmentation jacket, casing, or pre-forged fragments.
Feel @solid hinge lost that round....
Like I said, I've had this debate before.
People somehow think explosives are magic and any amount of explosive is supremely lethal at extended distances.
because it goes bang everyone thinks it's super-effective
18g.. pretty sure that's in a firework 
Most grenades use 50g or more of filler.
And that's for a thin-skinned casing that in many cases is using pre-formed fragments, either notched wire or metal pellets.
Sup nug nugs
Hey @sly badger
Less than half.
indeed, they are good for, of course, small compact places, as that is where most damage can be done.
The M67 frag grenade, with notched wire coil and 184g of filler (ten times what you're citing) has a lethal radius of 5m and a casualty producing radius of 15m
that's impressive
lmfao
That's an explosive device specifically designed to produce maximum anti-infantry effect.
i do that... don't judge
you've never been next to explosives I see
Not an APHE round which has to compromise explosive effect for armor penetration.
@solid hinge has found his voice 
You should go stand next to some, please. Light the fuse too.
even better... going onto an infinite amo server and just spaming anti tank greandes
xD
lmfao
spelling 10/10
I've handed LE, no HE though.
Hey, let's all be friendly here
shoot flare guns all the time
or placing mines everywhere
@icy sluice I'm being friendly. Polite too.
make a town of decoys 
When I stop being friendly Hess'll probably ban me to the moon for profanity.
well let's not do that lol
yes
decoy is the best perk on bf series.. prove me wrong 
@hoary condor kill yourself... nobody likes you.. you have big feet
did i do it right? 
that's good @pure veldt so if i stood still as a
you wouldn't shoot me
sounds easy to me
1v1 if stand still.. i win as you ยฃdon't shoot at anything that doesn't move"
You're the one who thinks explosives are magically lethal, not me.
if you shoot you moved ;D
I just told you to do something that'll result in hearing loss if you're not wearing ear pro.
I don't think they throw off other snipers, anecdotally most of the time they work for me it's medics hitting them.
I always figured their utility was mostly in spooking non-scouts into hiding.
Big lens flare right in your face, time to put hard cover between you and it.
touche @pure veldt
if you wanna stand in 1 spot sniping that is fine by me if you're not on my team tho ๐
true haha
nah i'm a better scout than that
shoot once, move, shoot, move shoot, move etc
sometimes rush haha
get the old bayonet into action
yeah i tend to use flares and decoys sometimes, just put them in random places.. in fox holes etc... catches people out all the time
spotting scope really feels op when spawning in and hiting up a handful of people before runnin and gunnin
stupid... yes, but it works
because people won't expect it... that's what catches people out
they shoot in panic.. gives their position away and ya boi squid-eye comes in with his razor sharp bayonet and gives him the closest shave yet 
lol i can count the times ive used that on 1 hand
doesnt work well unless someone is completely isolated
so much time left in stab mode til you can shoot again
sometimes i suicide it .. run through gas/smoke/bullets to get the stab then die lol
It's fun when you can get it to work though. Actually handy in some of the trench maps.
Also, if you manage to pull it of against an elite kit, you feel like a boss.
how many times you completely fail and get sad? ;P
many times lol
I'd say 50/50, really depends on if I'm just flipping a charge at them for giggles or if I'm actually planning it out.
but i don't get sad.... i just go again lol
That one desert map with all the twisty little canyons is amazing for it.
when i do the suicide run.. i don't expect to 1) make it 2) if i do, not to be standing for long
St Quatins works a treat for me
Loads of brush to go prone in while people run by, then you bayonet charge the last guy in the squad and try to knife your way to the front before they turn around and drop you.
Fort Fao i done yesterday, took out tank squad of 5 and meleed the mechanic
used decoys to get there
im pretty sure the offenders get 100x more jollies out of it than the defender cares about dying to it ๐
those people that go around melee'ing with that look in their eye
haha
i like defending but the only problem is, if you hold out the first attack, they tend to get such an advantage vehicle
maybe we should do some sanity checks on people that laugh manically while meleeing ๐
john we got a guy who is on coms laughing hysterically after 10 sniper melee kills, send the fbi
@pure veldt Well damn, I start giggling after two. Guess I should invest in a nice straitjacket?
i do one... and feel so happy lol
i just shoot in the back of the head and go about my day lol
even if theres a knifing op
gotta keep wheelin and deelin as fast as possible!
haha
I just had a run with the general Liu going behind all the prone snipers and headshotting them one by one






