Whether its the hate or the support wagon
#battlefield-legacy-titles
split plank
icy sluice
Wasn't he one of the driving forces behind P2W lootboxes?
shell lava
bf2 getting some devs back tho
split plank
I heard
icy sluice
Now it's getting an actual squad system I hear.
shell lava
yes
keen tendon
Installing BF2 as we speak tbh.
icy sluice
Took them long enough
split plank
Honestly I think SWBF2 and BFV will both pull a BF4 where the devs start "fixing" the game and bringing back a majority of the playerbase
shell lava
there were no devs, just a skeleton group
now that some devs are back
hopefully things will go quicker
keen tendon
Well.. Devs are probably being pulled on other projects. Back and forth
keen tendon
Could be. I honestly dont know really.
But they have a huge crunch before release now.
shell lava
devs tweeted they re working on bf2 again
keen tendon
Nightmare for devs.
shell lava
also a trustwhorty leak said so
keen tendon
Cool.
So its not a bad thing installing it again. Only have 15h of play time on SWBF2
shell lava
it's like 70gb
keen tendon
It is.
icy sluice
I only played the beta, the whole no large scale bot flights and shitty lootboxes threw me away
keen tendon
Tried to play in advance now.. 40gb in and it doesnt work.
shell lava
I'll reinstall when the conquest game mode is coming out
icy sluice
Seriously, what happened to the bot fights? Why were they toned down so much?
icy sluice
Hey, you know what's fun? Fighting in tiny areas that are about the size of a school classroom!
shell lava
no bots in ground battles
daring maple
Anyone wanna join for a serious tryhard squad? join me Right now
jade anchor
Will there be another beta before launch?
dusk canopy
not planned
unborn blaze
Probably not
silver silo
unborn blaze
How so?
I personally don't see what's wrong with the game. Fluid movement, good gunplay.
The only thing that I could see is the TTK
dim gazelle
Ttk is very nice
U need lot more map knowledge and situational awareness now
And cant rush with gaymatico lile noob
granite path
Tried to switch sides
the end of operation screen pop
s
after like 2 minutes since the operation started
like wtf
elder tiger
I feel like gameplay in bfv was very good. I wish more servers turned off 3d spotting in bf4 and it would be so much better
lucid quarry
Yeah it's better than battlefield 1
gray glade
i feel the best thing about no 3d spotting is that any vehicle or gadget that works like artillery/mortar/bomber cant dominate as much anymore
harder to snipe too
shut walrus
Hopefully they won't have a mortar in the new game
worn cave
Well and there's no more arty-style trucks with click on a map functionality either so there's that
shut walrus
But if they do I hope they add flare shells
worn cave
pretty huge really
shell lava
hopefully they wont have weapons in the new game
worn cave
snce BF1's was so bad
shell lava
stop the violence please
desert dune
gray glade
i hope they continue support for that new grand operations thingy
and not go like BF1 and just make all maps mainly conquest
trail flame
Hopefully, was a shame that Operations got strained more and more as the DLC went on
gray glade
yeah
desert dune
The most infamous WWI battles and not even a single operation
trail flame
They got shock operations but they're pretty eh compared to the actual thing
shut walrus
I don't think they really anticipated how popular Operations would become
shell lava
the new operation style is better
trail flame
Heligoland, Albion, Passchendaele, Nivelle Nights were all pretty potent maps for an operation but alas
shell lava
its like GA on battlefront 2.
shut walrus
Hard to plan for unexpected success 
shell lava
which is more than just go and conquer this and that
gray glade
i felt the support class was a bit disappointing in the 2nd alpha, but assuming they fix it for the full game, i hope for a good use for it in operations
trail flame
Support was probably my favourite from the beta honestly, the FG42 is extremely potent even with all the sights being broken
shell lava
im gonna report anyone on my team that playing any other class than assault
trail flame
You're an assault with 10 less rounds in the magazine but can shit out infinite ammo
desert dune
I had a hard time playing most classes on the Beta, however the Recon works best for me
gray glade
when i played in the beta, most of my teams were snipers
desert dune
Still adjusting to the medic with SMGs
shell lava
too many snipers is boring
having your entire squad playing snipers is cancer
maybe they should limit it to 1 sniper per squad
desert dune
gray glade
i dunno how they are gonna make ppl stop always playing sniper
its really a plague to battlefield lately
completely ruins operations
trail flame
Suomi was amazing if you took the time to upgrade it
desert dune
Don't think I upgraded the Suomi when the Beta was available
rip
Though I did upgraded the STEN
gray glade
its strange how dice never seem to understand what to do with the support class
shell lava
dice need to think about balance too
gray glade
in every battlefield game its the same thing, the class starts with underpowered weapons, after a few months the community has complained enough to make dice improve it
shell lava
they cant just give everyone what they want
gray glade
it was the same thing in bf3 and bf4 and bf1
shell lava
its to make people grind
gray glade
but supression is terrible when you have wide open maps
shell lava
people want things to look foward to
gray glade
and half the enemy team is sniping
desert dune
Galicia flashbacks
elder tiger
operations looks like such a good gamemode
shut walrus
@elder tiger It is a good gamemode, the best in the series I would say.
desert dune
Based on the actual battles themselves. Loved the immersion when you take the sector and everyone war cries all the way down, trench whistles blowing and great music to add on.
worn cave
Ops is bae but sometimes your team is just trash and it is what it is, not really the fault of the gamemode or the game lol
I think people are quick to find a scapegoat
game must be broken etc
trail flame
That's the BF experience really, your team can be 99% snipers in Domination
gritty drift
And barley any of them go up to the objective
young shore
thats normal in a multiplayer game
if you expect teammates to do the objective
you aint playing the game right
worn cave
Best practice is throw up a medic launcher/smoke nade smokescreen to encourage the players who arent snipers to push the objective
south lynx
Hell, I pushed the objective as recon in the beta. Ironsight SMLE with fast cycling was actually pretty fun, and getting a spawn beacon behind the enemy lead to lots of knife kills.
The Pathfinder combat role sounds like it'll be exactly that sort of recon role, so I'm eagerly awaiting it.
shell heron
hello wilhelm
charred matrix
every time I try to load into a game in BF1 I "lose connection to session" I was playing BF1 perfectly yesterday so what the fuck?
sullen rock
Anyone know a good place to look for a BFV clan? OCE Region
tawny hornet
The only clan i want is a tank one so i can always find someone to gun/repair me๐ @sullen rock
icy sluice
Finally, for the first time in three days I get to play a game
hollow canyon
I know that feel, I'll finally get to come home at a decent hour today
sullen rock
@tawny hornet That seems awfully familiar, you didn't used to have 667 in your name did you?
tawny hornet
Most certainly not. :p
I hate numbers in names.
sullen rock
Haha, fair. Seemed like the exact playstyle of someone I knew from Planetside 2 with a very similar name.
icy sluice
I hate it when someone on my team gets out of their tank but then someone gets in and cannot repair it.
But then I repair it, ask him to get out... fucker runs into Zerg rush
sullen rock
I do love tanks in BFV though, they feel dangerous as hell. Good tank players are god-tier, but bad tank players still manage to die in the first minute. Pretty challenging to kill if you don't have smokes.
zealous void
I love tanks in BFV too! ๐ only problem was using them in 1p. Was stupid to make it just limited speed instead of it tracking your crosshair, but hey, im pretty sure that was just temporary..... atleast i reeeally hope so
sullen rock
I think it's a good idea having it work that way in 3p, lets you quickly look around for targets instantly with a flick of the mouse, then swap to 1p to shoot
remote lion
Yeah bruh I do love the total of 2 tanks in my games! Real battlefield vibes 
zealous void
But its tough to use 1p, it should be a transfered version of the 3p version imo
remote lion
I haven't seen 6 tanks at once yet
besides there's no combined arms atm so it doesn't even matter.
sullen rock
Only a few maps in other BF games had more than 4 in play at any given time
you can have 4 going at the same time in BFV
2 specials, 2 normal
and there is combined arms
The snow map has air and land vehicles
icy sluice
That moment when you destroy an enemy Artillery Truck with a stolen enemy Tank
tawny hornet
@sullen rock planetside 2 is a game I've played๐ but not under this name.
Speaking of which locking tanks and using deploying halftracks as spawns would be awesome features for battlefield.
tawny hornet
Needs a ps3 but its getting off topic๐
remote lion
I ran it at 15 fps on my old computer but it was still mind fucking blowing
sullen rock
Loving the halftrack spawns, but it's a shame they become inactive when unoccupied
tawny hornet
Yeah i want them to resupply allies AND act as spawn points when deployed at a flag
Giving defenders an objective to destroy
Maybe put a CD on it
Eg spawn every min on it tops
Would fix having to cross 1km of nomans land getting sniped by 32 snipers
clever fiber
I find it funny that the round used for the tankgewehr was a 13.2 MM round, Which was used in machine guns.
That would be one hell of a machine gun
Plane appears,
Ding, ding ,ding, ding, dead....
Tank appears
Ding, ding ,ding, ding, dead....
tawny hornet
Mm remmeber that tank armour back then was really thin๐
sullen rock
Plus sloped and ceramic armour wasn't very common.
The 14.5ร114mm used in the PTRD-41 was only really useful against side armor and some front panels
kind prawn
i dont think they should limit sniper classes they should have a system that goes like "hey we need more (medic, assault, engineer) if you play these classes you will get 3x points or something"
sullen rock
shouldn't limit classes at all
they're all designed to work with each other, adding incentives like score multipliers doesn't address why there would be a disparity
is it a map design issue
is it a weapon balance issue
are certain class items overpowered
etc etc
remote lion
just give more points to people are playing the objective n killing people on the objective
sullen rock
That's how they balance those kinds of things.
Unlike say, Red Orchestra where some classes are overpowered but kept in check by limiting the number of them.
remote lion
Battlefield 1 tried this but they went mental with the points you get that was wayyy too much
sullen rock
yeah, exactly right BicBoi
remote lion
like at the start of a game
sullen rock
Playing the objective should always reward more
remote lion
you could cap the closest point to you n get a shit ton of points or bypass it to go cap the most important point on the entire map aka the middle but you'd lose like 500 points or something
FOR PLAYING BETTER and smarter
It's just bad design it's not the player's fault
the game rewards you for being lazy and useless :p
sullen rock
Yeah, that did always bug me.
but that's a bit of an edge case though. Doesn't stop anyone getting to the top o fthe scoreboard
remote lion
true but it sets a bad precedent
sullen rock
you'll usually rack up a decent amount of kills along with objective defense points
while people are busy capping the 1st point
remote lion
I still rush to the middle nontheless but it just feels unfair
sullen rock
It's a bit annoying but in truth, I only ever care about it for the first minute or two
remote lion
yeah that's the only time it matters
sullen rock
then your score per minute matters more
remote lion
yeah
sullen rock
it's still an annoyance
maybe give the 1/2 central points an extra 100 points for capping
remote lion
The solution imo is to just say reward players for capping the middle 800 points and 200 points for capping the closest to the spawn
So 1-3 people stay behind n cap the safest spots whilst most of the team goes for the more important shit
It's the opposite way rn lol
yeye
Very simple fix.
sullen rock
yeah, something to funnel people into the center and feel a bit more rewarded for it. I think 800/200 might be a bit too much of a difference though, just needs to be enough to make that reward centre in your brain 'feel' like you're getting that extra reward
even if it's meaningless in the long run
drowsy dew
Why isnt there a battlefield discord server on PlayStation
icy sluice
Well, I have no idea what to play instead of Battlefield to wait for V
I am burnt out on hill-humpers, artillery trucks from both sides, even taking them down has gotten boring.
I'll probably just fucking play Ravenfield or Garry's Mod with a shitton of mods
drowsy dew
Warface is free
icy sluice
Ew Warface
tawny hornet
Unfortunately many go for the ks to ds instead of points
icy sluice
It is really good, just not liking the movement system
I did take down a heavy tank almost single-handedly
Because I am sure two dynamite and two anti-tank grenades don't take it down like that. It must've been hurt by something
Oh yeah, the melee spam, the automatico spam, SMG-08 spam
tawny hornet
Did u hit sides/rear?
tawny hornet
Well then its possible me thinks
tawny hornet
Cross map killing with a shotgun cannon
icy sluice
I still prefer the Close Support Light Tank
icy sluice
Gives health and ammo and is really good against infantry
clever fiber
It has a fucking death star beam for a gun
icy sluice
Yeah
icy sluice
Someone called me a hacker for destroying an Artillery Tank with the Close Support
btw, it's either the quality of the video or your brightness is like 100%
I cannot read that text
neon loom
If you buy the deluxe edition, you get the 20 weekly customization items through airlift or whatever. Is that 20 items per week or 20 weeks worth of items
Because 20 items a week seems like a lot
violet locust
Most likely over 20 weeks
clever fiber
And how many items do you think might be dupes
It could be almost all dupes after a week or two
olive crescent
I hope they do a better job at letting you know which weapons youve gotten a new item for, and for which part. It was annoying in the beta looking at the new stuff you got for the weapons, only to forget what you got and going through all the menus to figure out whats new and whats not.
icy sluice
It told you which weapons but still it was kinda bad
There needed to be an equip button in that menu
Or better yet, clicking the item brings you to the weapon
If you have a duplicate, select which one
olive crescent
It told you the weapons, but when youre looking through 20+ new items, which seemed frequent for me, it was easy to lose track of which weapons, and which parts specifically, got new skins. I think I was spending more time looking through the weapons menu, and seeing what the new skin part was, and trying to find them, than I did playing the game
the menus and UI for the beta was just terrible
icy sluice
I really hope it gets touched on
zealous void
man i so badly want to be a DICE friend 
violet locust
fathom pebble
ripe wing
holla
violet locust
Could happen 
ripe wing
can we put memes in this? 
ripe wing
i mean its a BF meme
zealous void
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split plank
BF is the EU confirmed
proud bough
@zealous void The memes would be absolute trash
#cmte in BFEE is already clogged with shit memes
sharp merlin
BF itself is a meme 
pliant geyser
So how bad financially do yall think BF5 will be for EA ?
proud bough
They'll all say the same thing trust me
"EA is too big a company" "Dont like it dont buy it" "One less cancerous player"
Personally, I feel like they're gonna take a hit since most of the community has left to other games
daring dome
i think EA is more concerned with potentially losing their main revenue sources from their sports games
proud bough
They honestly wouldn't care less if Battlefield ended up as another dead franchise under their belt
mental egret
turbid badger
cod are have biggeth gaei
ripe wing
Battlefield is too good to die ):
solid hinge
CoD got like from good to bad
solid hinge
How do we fix battlefield
I would rather buy bo1 than 2 or 3
And battlefield maybe some old parts
remote ledge
Is it Friday yet?
remote ledge
Which BF is good for you, @charred ingot ?
elder tiger
If he says bf1 I'm ignoring him
turbid badger
Bfv is good
charred ingot
Bf3
turbid badger
@remote ledge
remote ledge
=]
soft breach
BF4 is good for your soul, BF1 is good for your heart
charred ingot
@remote ledge yes
soft breach
Is it worth buying BFV only to play war stories?
and will it come more war stories after release?
remote ledge
Maybe and yes.
soft breach
I played the beta for BFV but the amount of bugs i experienced got me less hyped than before
charred ingot
You're wasting your money
soft breach
The war stories in BF1 is incredible, but i love the multiplayer too
And i would never pay 60$ for 5 war stories
charred ingot
Don't do it man
soft breach
I will wait for it to realease, then watch some videos and maybe get it on sale
remote ledge
"The Last Tiger" is a post-launch
soft breach
Im norwegian, so im really hyped for the Nordlys war stories
I hope they speak actual norwegian and not just norwegian english
That would disappoint me big time
The last tiger is netherlands right?
or germany
And by the look of the name i think Tirailleur is french
remote ledge
Maybe germany
turbid badger
straya
turbid badger
u will meet death
turbid badger
tardy basin
dim gazelle
tiger = germany
grizzled ingot
333
ancient idol
granite path
DUDE
I was winning a operation
and when i was about to win
it *rebalanced me and switched to losing team
what is this
devout rose
BF1?
granite path
ye
devout rose
Lol Iโve only been changes once
Itโs for the people that claim that theyโre losing because they have 2 less people
granite path
the thing is i was winning on the 1st team
fathom pebble
https://twitter.com/EA_DICE/status/1043133500050874368 Tank Crusader III, AA Mk I
onyx blade
fathom pebble
Tank above is the Tank Crusader III, AA Mk I
unreal arch
That tank is a work of art ๐
fathom pebble
actually the tank seems to be ingame from the footage dice posted
and the map is twisted steel
rocky falcon
in the tank map can u play as erwin rommel? 
onyx blade
unreal arch
anyone wanna play BF1?
rocky falcon
if bfv gets a lot of post launch weapons like over 150 then pls make faction only weapons
like americans and allies can only use m1 garand
and only axis can use stg
etc
historically accurate
fathom pebble
faction locked weapons is boring
shell lava
also hard to balance
fathom pebble
like thing is, if you were playing more of a milsim style or hardcorish game
it makes sence
on a casual type of game like BF games faction locked makes 0 sence
rocky falcon
ppl want game to be accurate lol
fathom pebble
they used to it but they completly got rid of it after like bf2 I think
shell lava
its a problem, mainly when their idea is to make money off cosmetics
rocky falcon
so all of those ppl who hate on women and wacky cosmetics would like faction locked weapons
fathom pebble
then you're looking at the wrong game @rocky falcon
shell lava
but weapons arent the same, i guess ally and axis soldiers took other faction weapons when they walked near one?
meanwhile it was a lot harder to steal a tank
rocky falcon
yes it would be kinda rng based if the germans had much better weapons than allies ik
like
if ur german u win
or have a better chance
fathom pebble
@onyx blade Try post less due to self promotion would be better upload the picture to discord and add a description please 
shell lava
also people will bitch and leave games if theyre not in the faction with their fav weapon
onyx blade
@fathom pebble I'm doing it like to 5 servers but okay XD
shell lava
xD
fathom pebble
Don't wanna be pushy over it but its server rules and got impose them and make sure everyone follows it 
rocky falcon
joker pls make a channel where u can discuss politics cuz ya know... i like discussing politics xD
fathom pebble
Keep this for Battlefield matters and more to #general to other kind of discussions
fathom pebble
you can aslong it doesnt get toxic or everyone insulting each other
shell lava
but whats the point in politics argument if its not toxic
fathom pebble
make sure you follow the server rules by checking #487997024478953473 
rocky falcon
i have but it keeps changing
i usually dont laugh at sex jokes but
he is so good at them
fathom pebble
onyx blade
YEAH
shell lava
would be cool if they added friendly fire
rocky falcon
hahahahah
shell lava
but that won't happen because it's a casual fame
onyx blade
desert dune
Friendly fire is in BF1 if you turn it on
trail flame
Just gotta join a hardcore server
shell lava
also will reduce nade spam
desert dune
onyx blade
New view:
shell lava
desert dune
Tsaritsyn is that you?
shell lava
right click every time is too much work
onyx blade
shell lava
are these new maps?
onyx blade
They were all announced
shell lava
I still in favour or huggingfield than battlefield but nobody seems to agree
so many bf games are about war and killing
trail flame
If they got destroyed you had to rebuild them, granted for most points easier to leave them so enemies will be lured to them
shell lava
make one about love
merry ivy
but snowmen are better if you give them a gun
frosty the soldier
he had a big magic hat
and a sturmgewehr in his hand
onyx blade
rocky falcon
so has ea removed micro transaction gambling
merry ivy
like fortifications
onyx blade
There's rain effect on the tank that can be hardly noticed in the screenshot
shell lava
nice
merry ivy
no no no, but one of their comments got -600k internet points, that almost brought EA down
shell lava
lol
just because Belgium is deciding to ban loptboxes doesn't mean it will disappear
or even EU as a whole. still not enough
they will still make shit ton of money from other markets
rocky falcon
well rip a few million dollars
merry ivy
they arenโt the same thing
storm gulch
bought
merry ivy
not even close
rocky falcon
ooops
merry ivy
EA is the evil big bad circlejerked company
rocky falcon
i thought i did a typo on bought
merry ivy
DICE are those guys who made the good stuff
fathom pebble
owned 
merry ivy
like uh
shell lava
I mean ea are allowed to do whatever they want tbh
merry ivy
that one snowman on narvik
rocky falcon
dice makes the game and ea takes the money lol
shell lava
if you don't like their products, don't buy it
merry ivy
this
rocky falcon
patrick sรถderlund 2.0
merry ivy
please stop circlejerking
fathom pebble
technically EA gives money to DICE to produce the game
merry ivy
just vote with your money
rocky falcon
yes ik lmao
shell lava
and resources yeah
merry ivy
if you really have an issue with it
storm gulch
I'll vote with my Chuck E Cheese tokens
rocky falcon
lol
merry ivy
the DICE employees still get paid
shell lava
yes by paychecks
merry ivy
ah yeah
shell lava
and maybe bounses
fathom pebble
Well Dice is EA just like a sub studio of the company
merry ivy
thatโs what you mean
shell lava
ea created dice or bought them?
merry ivy
I think there needs to be a battlefield game where you need to properly calculate the ballistics of each of your shots for it to register
very skill based
merry ivy
no no no
like
you have to type out the equations
and calculate them manually
would be very fast paced and fun
merry ivy
even to move you would have to do force and mass calculations
worn cave
wow solid dev blog
onyx blade
granite path
I scrapped a ugly legendary, enough scrap for a new one, guess what,I GOT IT AGAIN, WHY
worn cave
the light tanks look agile af
Think any of the light tanks will have 2nd seats?
The thing I'm most excited for is the map Twisted Steel-- it's exactly the kind of setting I love to play in. Dense vegetation with lots of cover for strategic movements
and just beautiful af
worn cave
They do go fast, looked speedy as heck
onyx blade
Runway!
worn cave
the German flak tank is gorgeous
onyx blade
Scary
worn cave
four cannons ๐ฅ
so planes will have parachute flares and radar for aided target acquisition, and planes distance where they can see spotted enemies at distance has been increased, so they'll have stronger ground interaction now ๐
zealous void
im making my video on all the new stuff rn
i cant wait
holy shit
Is this thumbnail good?
solid hinge
so light infantry is one subclass of assault
gray glade
yeah thats nice @zealous void
zealous void
Thanks ๐
I hope the video is good too, i turned down the music a bit too far in the voice part 
grand merlin
I believe the mobile AA is more likely to be used as an anti infantry then anti plane
elder tiger
CHOOO CHOOO ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN
inland valley
Wirbewind... something like that, for the axis and the British version is wielding the 40mm Bofors cannon
inland valley
indeed
gray glade
just heard on forgotten weapons YT channel its still in use in places today lol
inland valley
amiens 2.0 xd
shut walrus
@pulsar valve Yeah sure go ahead ๐
Who needs vacation when you can just play BFV for the real thang
pulsar valve
shut walrus
Plane takeoff is going to be fun, I really hope you can't shoot down planes before they've taken off though
Flashbacks to BF3 when some shitter would start shooting the jets whenever they respawned
wary mason
let's just hope the runways are hidden behind a mountain or something
grand merlin
I hope devastation in grand ops doesn't start as devasted for the first round
Like you push past the first op and then everything goes to shit
shut walrus
@grand merlin I'd wager it's going to be the Rotterdam map from the beta first, and then it moves onto Devastation.
Landing for repairs and ammo refill would be neato
I foresee many crashlandings from novice pilots
wary mason
Speed control 
i want that
grand merlin
Yeah that's what I figured
Would be rotterdamn then you push over that bridge
Or devastiation
And then you push over that bridge
Either way I want just want to push that bridge
trail flame
I think that DICE already mentioned that it begins in normal Rotterdam and will transition to Devastation for day 4 for final stand if nobody wins the operation
worn cave
I hope the revolvers in BFV are as nice as the ones in BF1 โค
icy sluice
Webley
worn cave
The Gasser is hilariously good
icy sluice
Enfield Revolver
worn cave
I spent some time charting revolver stats for BF1 recently:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pfdycNJEUbAgSy3RFMUXJufb_DOtCY5kH-He4otcoko/edit?usp=sharing
icy sluice
shut walrus
@grand merlin Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the church is north of the Beta map, the opposite direction of the river/bridge
grand merlin
Yeah but
You never know
In the St.Quetin operation you had to push from no mans land
Which was outside of the regular conquest map
grand merlin
Stupid dutch
icy sluice
Rotterdam has this large red tarp over it
grand merlin
Why can't they build cities in the way I want them to
icy sluice
TIL...
shut walrus
@icy sluice Lol just marked out roughly how big the map is ๐
icy sluice
No, the dutch just put a large red tarp to help stop the bombing, it's like a large makeshift stop sign
grand merlin
He isn't wrong you know
But little did the dutch know, that german pilots were actually bulls
And the red just made them angry
shut walrus
@icy sluice 
TIL I guess
icy sluice
They had to use several planes to put the tarp up
shell lava
its so new buildings wont get wet
icy sluice
@ that announcements picture, I hope we get another picture like that for maybe the first day or week.
gritty drift
Hi
wary mason
almost 150 000 Snowmen ๐
grand merlin
That is impressive
boreal sail
boreal sail
Fuck jackfrags
boreal sail
shell lava
why you dont like jack
i overall dont watch many battlefield related videos so i dont know much about him
boreal sail
i dont like that he is using his "influence" to change the game the way it fits him
tardy basin
poll with public opinion
his own opinion
rocky falcon
the last tiger will be about the battle of the bulge right
boreal sail
I think the last tiger is more about Kursk
rocky falcon
we will see
pulsar valve
Community thoughts matter
shell lava
not on a twitter poll.
pulsar valve
Why doesn't it matter?
rocky falcon
cuz most of the last tiger divisions were at the Ardennes in 1945
boreal sail
I mean, i dont think the campaign is going to complete one front before starting another one
tardy basin
Do you disagree with the result?
shell lava
because if they want to have a real community feedback, they should do it by emails, without other people knowing what other people picked.
shell lava
and mainly not from a twitter poll that was made by a youtuber
boreal sail
the attrition should stay the way it was in the open beta
rocky falcon
im for low ammo
shell lava
it happens
pulsar valve
If that was an effect, wouldn't it be split 3 ways?
If everyone was influenced by other voters
shell lava
not really. if somebody really like x youtuber and watching his videos, and that x youtuber says that his opinion is y z and a, most of the people will vote with his opinion on his public polls.
thats just my 2 cents on it, you dont have to agree.
pulsar valve
Agree to disagree
shell lava
and again i say, his public polls, not by dice or ea.
rocky falcon
820k v1 kills holy fuck
icy sluice
Hey, planes will be more agile.
rocky falcon
143k snowmen built
shell lava
i dont know much about that guy, i dont watch many battlefield related videos. im speaking overall from things i saw in the past in many other games.
icy sluice
And the BF-109 won't be totally dominant over the Stuka
tardy basin
I seriously don't think that poll was the only source of opinions
icy sluice
Or however it was in the beta
rocky falcon
is there a blog where i can see how many ppl took part in the beta
boreal sail
twitter maybe
shell lava
damn i remember battlefront 2015 beta, so many people played it
grand merlin
Most played beta
Hahha
The last Tiger isn't about the battle of the bulge
Or Kursk
It will more likely be like the last Panther in Cologne
Which was a real tank duel between a Panther and a Pershing
boreal sail
i thought you were going to say it was about Prokhorovka
grand merlin
Prokhorovka?
grand merlin
Nah Kursk is too early
gray glade
@grand merlin the tank duel thingy, was that the one featured on potentional history youtube channel?`
i remember seeing a really great video about the only ww2 tank duel efter filmed (as far as i know anyway)
grand merlin
Yes
gray glade
i would LOVE seeing something like that in the game, if they could only do it justice
boreal sail
gray glade
this is the video btw: https://youtu.be/6gkyFNRw9NY
boreal sail
when i saw the Pz38t i only could think of this one
solid hinge
light assault can have gl and dynamites? what makes this different to Grenadier?
violet locust
icy sluice
Looking at the comments of the dev talk, it's kinda funny really
shell lava
support least popular huh
icy sluice
Shame, I played it the most.
violet locust
The comments under mine are pretty interesting...
shell lava
i thought because of the new fort things people will play it more.
icy sluice
Yeah "lol they made a fake account for like 10 years in anticipation"
violet locust
๐
shell lava
wtf is firestorm ranger set
violet locust
Fake comments, get paid to leave nice comments 
icy sluice
On a youtube page because that exists
Yo, I'd love to get paid like $10 just to fucking type "Nice"
How'd you get that job, illuminate?
violet locust
ezpz, just leave nice comments on every video
shell lava
you get that job by leaving nice comments and then email ea to collect the cash
violet locust
Lol, one person even did some extensive research on me 
shell lava
of coruse you need screenshots of the comments.
icy sluice
There's only one like that matters, the Battlefield Like
grand merlin
One day I wanma grew up to be like illuminate
regal sapphire
I really hope we get another Beta
violet locust
I can't, it's too much for me
silk mist
Anyone excited about the Wirbelwind?
regal sapphire
The changes in that video are VERY iffy to me
violet locust
What in particular? 
regal sapphire
Like doing basically nothing about the shit attrition system
gritty drift
Emmekr
silk mist
Huh
gritty drift
Emmekr
silk mist
They talked about the attrition
violet locust
They didn't say they weren't doing anything?
gritty drift
whats attrition
regal sapphire
Oh SOME weapons are going to have a bit more ammo
But they also talked about minimizing the amount of resupply stations
silk mist
We have so little info, how can you already make a point about that?
gritty drift
P
silk mist
They know they need to change things
regal sapphire
It's literally what they said in the video
violet locust
They're only at the capture points
silk mist
Yeah but apparently not all weapons need more ammo
regal sapphire
Every weapon needs alot more ammo
silk mist
No
regal sapphire
Yes
silk mist
Otherwise the attrition system would be worthless
regal sapphire
Good
regal sapphire
Apparently it has been nerfed
silk mist
Change is hard to some people
regal sapphire
Sorry I prefer not to play Sidearmfield 5
silk mist
Almost never got into one of those situations
violet locust
But sidearms are good
silk mist
And even then it was fun
violet locust
Ruby all day pls
silk mist
Because you have to think
Instead of spray
regal sapphire
It really wasn't, I just got gunned down because no one ressuplied me
silk mist
That is why you plan your moves
icy sluice
regal sapphire
Like that's possible on a 64 vs 64 map
silk mist
It isn't that hard but it needs a different mindset
regal sapphire
You can't plan ahead on where the enemy is going to be
Are you a mind reader or something?
boreal sail
The STG need more recoil
regal sapphire
Well that makes sense
boreal sail
Ugly but effective
silk mist
Is it real tho? I could only find a crusader based aa
regal sapphire
It is yes
icy sluice
But hey, the Panzer 38(t) looks great
https://i.imgur.com/Z140Ave.gif
shut walrus
Dunno about more recoil for the StG, but faster damage dropoff
icy sluice
I feel like the range should be decreased a little bit... I dunno.
violet locust
Agreed, I don't think it needs more recoil
icy sluice
But hey... fast and long range bullets.
boreal sail
weapons need recoil like the ones in the original Mafia lost heaven
icy sluice
The other AA tank btw
https://i.imgur.com/whsOgJA.gif
crimson orchid
BfV needs 12v12 modes from day one
fathom pebble
12v12? Didnt knew we went back to ps3 and xbox360
crimson orchid
Domination rush etc
silk mist
I hope for Ostwind upgrade
fathom pebble
rush 64 
crimson orchid
๐คฆ๐ผโโ๏ธ
icy sluice
Rush 1v1
silk mist
1 v 1 me rush
crimson orchid
1v1 b flag Suez @icy sluice
silk mist
Lool
violet locust
Frontlines 
crimson orchid
Fortnite V
icy sluice
1v1 Train Station in Giant's Shadow
crimson orchid
รhm i mean Battlefield V
icy sluice
Ohmwrecker
violet locust
I hope they don't add planes to Frontlines
icy sluice
I think in the Grand Operations Frontlines maybe
violet locust
Fine by me, I don't play Ops much
fathom pebble
AT tank? 
silk mist
Lol yeah
fathom pebble
isnt that basically having HE shells perk from the perk tree?
fathom pebble
there's an upgrade you have AT shells on tanks
fathom pebble
yeh tank caliber counts towards dmg to tanks
silk mist
Like zero haha
icy sluice
"bigger gun"
boreal sail
We need a STUG
fathom pebble
so the bigger the cannon the more dmg it does to the tank and vehicles
silk mist
Joahhh
icy sluice
The Volkssturmgewehr was shown in the Dev Talks but no actual gameplay of it
In the distance haze preview
silk mist
I wonder if the AA tanks will have the same range as the AA emplacements
fathom pebble
inb4 B-17 
icy sluice
Oh hey, the bridge in twisted steel can totally be destroyed
fathom pebble
upgrade that carries a nuke per match 
icy sluice
Look at the bridge in the background
https://i.redd.it/04qvu9xrwln11.jpg
fathom pebble
that would be a cool squad call, a mini nuke that can obliterate about 1 and a half flag area and you can destroy the plane carrying it 
crimson orchid
My mom is a woman
gray glade
What about yer dad?
inland valley
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
boreal sail
runic vault
Hey Battlefield V Community,
Today we released the 'What We Learned from BFV Open Beta' blog, an infographic, and a new Dev Talks episode diving deeper into these changes.
We know this is top-level for you core Battlefield V players, and we want to dig deeper in a successive communication update.
What do you think of the changes? What info do you want us to go into more depth on?
https://www.battlefield.com/news/what-we-learned-from-the-battlefield-5-open-beta
crimson orchid
My dad is a man
icy sluice
"Top-Level" You bet your entire body it is
But don't really, save that body for the frontlines.
runic vault
@icy sluice Yeah... we definitely need to get into this much more. Internal excuses aside, we're aligning teams to provide a more in-depth community article elaborating on additional items. That's where your feedback today comes into play.
crimson orchid
Funny how you write casual randy level @icy sluice
icy sluice
lol
solid hinge
split plank
I saw your comment on the dev blog video @violet locust. Cant believe so many people thought you were a bot
violet locust
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wary mason
๐ค
violet locust
Beep boop
crisp bane
@crimson orchid is right, 12v12 from beginning.
violet locust
Lol
wet ingotBOT
Bot confirmed.
violet locust
wet ingotBOT
๐ค
crimson orchid
^
violet locust
๐ค
solid hinge
split plank
Oh shit
violet locust
Bottieni is here to save the day ๐ค
split plank
regal sapphire
More should be done to counter Attrition Dan
icy sluice
Were there tips in the beta? Or anything in the loading screens?
worn cave
Attrition is the best
Where are we meant to give this specific feedback @runic vault ?
Because my only critical feedback is that I have slight fears over the distance haze being applied too heavily and desaturating the beautiful map work done-- I liked the previews of Twisted Steel a-la the reveal trailer and would hate to see its saturation during the "clear sunny day" weather cycle be seriously diminished. Haze has to be in-game for things to look right I just don't want it overdone. I'm curious about how it might affect long-range play and wouldn't want the Recon class to be nerfed massively from it-- perhaps scopes can add a bit of contrast back at range etc.
regal sapphire
Attrition is the worst game mechanic ever developed of all time
grand merlin
Just stop running out of ammo
gray glade
i have a feeling that ppl running out of ammo might have something to do with the fact that only 14% of ppl played support
a part of it at least
And also alot of players seem to be under the impression that "support players must come to me when i need ammo, i should never have to run over to them"
slate zephyr
I play support in bf1 allot in bfv i didnt have a feel for any of the guns so i went medic
worn cave
it took a few times of running out of primary ammo before I would snatch ammo from crates every so often which solved the problem entirely
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
daring dome
is there any other viable name for the support class
daring dome
i think that would be better
worn cave
Technician
daring dome
every class is supposed to support each other anyways
yes that too
anything other than support
worn cave
Technician gets a bit "specialist"-sounding though and could imply a specialized equipment association with explosives, which assault kinda does
daring dome
they might as well rename it to The Luggage right now
worn cave
so Engi/Support are really it
daring dome
Engineer is perfect
even Mechanic
if we want to keep it different
sounds slightly less advanced
worn cave
Engineer fits better this time around given the building of metal structures that only that class can build
daring dome
oh yeh they can fortify shit
Engineer then plz lawd
I notice they're the least played class, I wonder what just changing the name would do
probably not much but maybe a lil'
it would make me feel better at least
gray glade
i want whatever sub-class* makes me able to mow down all the snipers, assaults and medics with my mg42
cuz thats the ONLY weapon ill use for the next 2 years ๐
elder tiger
why cant we agree that bf4 did classes well. Assault allowed for solo play but hopeless against vehicles. Only when in a squad could each class excel
i would be happy with classes and UI like bf4
split plank
Assault dominated every other class in almost every aspect except for anti vehicular stuff
gray glade
my only worry is that the mg42 we saw in the reveal trailer had a very low rate of fire
opal lodge
So i am watching Jackfrags new Video. Is this supposed to be asymetrical like that?
This is without any motion in the cockpit btw
split plank
I went back to the trailer and compared it to an actual mg42 firing
Idk if my ears are the same as yours but they sounded pretty similar in terms of firerate
gray glade
count the ammo
split plank
Yeah the ammo count was odd
split plank
10 shots a second ๐ค
gray glade
lets hope it's just one of those trailer things
shut walrus
I sounded about 1,000 RPM
split plank
Well
heavy quail
i enjoy.bf1 but... sometimes different settims is cool
heavy quail
also bfv is wwii but i would.like modern war
when one settint gets boring there is another one
split plank
Well we've had several modern games
heavy quail
ok I think I will buy bf4 soon and and will see
yes but the last I playrd was bf3. still play it sometimes
but became boring lol
only few servers without campers everywhere and baserape
and nerds with ultra high skills
and this supression effect. I loved it back in the days
but after BF1...
things have changed for me
tender ivy
i still play Bad COmpany 2 haha
boreal sail
@opal lodge Yes, not all planes have their sight at the middle but the crosshairs should move
split plank
I still play Battlefield 1942
worn cave
http://itsalmo.st/#bfv
๐ฉ we're getting there
solid hinge
Bf4 still got many Players
lost dune
BF3 ps3 anyone?
sweet magnet
what ?
shell lava
what it has to do with battlefield
south notch
whats a good loadout for the medic bf1?
gray glade
healing and revive for gadgets
violet locust
Selbstlader and M1911
gray glade
depends slightly on your playstyle and what mode* you play as well
violet locust
M1911 silenced, they'll never know you're coming
south notch
i like the rsc but whats a good sidearm for closer up?
also default bandages or big box?
violet locust
๐
lost dune
lost dune
is that too much?
violet locust
Do you know what the outdoors looks like?
solid hinge
Could anyone help me with some screenshots on Xbox?
lost dune
I know how it smells like
solid hinge
Iโm trying to take screenshots of German cavalry in BF1 on Passchendaele
Damn thanks anyways @violet locust
Does anyone have any good German/Austrian screenshots with gas masks from BF1?
fluid fjord
no not at all...I think its impressive @lost dune
lost dune
I just converted 2332hrs to days .....its just 97 days....nothing to worry about guys
violet locust
Maybe @icy sluice might be able to help if he's interested 
boreal sail
The most time i have in a game is 1361 hours in war thunder
violet locust
Tank Superiority mode in BFV