no one came to kill me or saw me
#battlefield-legacy-titles
eternal blade
well this guy wasn't hiding , running straight to us headshotting my squad instantly
waxen crystal
I just played on PS4, runs better than on my pc. I went 8-24 though :(
solid hinge
@eternal blade the headshot zone was increased, ive seen a ton of people getting only headshots
Youre on pc right?
icy sluice
Using the M30 Drilling, so far it feels pretty weak
eternal blade
cancer jesus , u honestly think i can't tell when someone is aimbotting ? i have been playng fps games since 98 lmao
solid hinge
People call me an aim bot all the time
So, sorry if I'm skeptical about people claiming aim bots.
eternal blade
u honestly think a dude with an smg can kill 10 people in 10 seconds with one clip ?
icy sluice
You mean the assume you have one rather than saying you yourself are an Aimbot?
strong parrot
I was just using the m30 for a whole round, so fun when you nail a headshot with the rifle round
solid hinge
@eternal blade I watched several people do that
eternal blade
bullshit
icy sluice
How close was everyone?
strong parrot
I wouldnt rule out there already being aim bots for the beta 
eternal blade
im tellinf this guy that i saw someone going 180-5 with an aimbot, entire team kept leaving because it was so blatant and he is saying nah it was possible that he is just good
lmao
even his teammates reported him
solid hinge
Im not saying he wasnt, Im just saying that it is possible
eternal blade
nope
icy sluice
The reviews for Battlefield V's open beta for Xbox are 2 stars
eternal blade
unless u r playin vs bots
solid hinge
No
Play against someone pro level
Did you see the video of one of the game devs playing the alpha? It looked like an aim bot
eternal blade
i did play against pros in csgo and no one was that good , let alone in casual BFV beta , aimbot is so obvious to spot mate , unless u r silver
icy sluice
"Casual BFV beta" uh
icy sluice
Still is a slight bit worrying seeing the reviews on the Xbox store
solid hinge
still not answering the question
eternal blade
but not the extreme level where they can stand like turrets hitting headshots 100% all the time
mossy onyx
Why am I only getting Sprayed Green from the shipments?
icy sluice
Oh because that's the first thing you get for all guns
strong parrot
first tier of unlocks?
topaz dome
no it isn't
icy sluice
Yeah, sprayed green, urban tactical and then factory new, I don't know what's after that.
solid hinge
but people love the no ammo and dont see it as an issue
daring vale
@topaz dome it is
icy sluice
You do need to just get ammo from either stations or from another support
Ammo is littered practically everywhere
mossy onyx
I think the first assault weapon only has 1 full reload
wary mason
you also get more than enough from dead enemies
mossy onyx
They get stolen
ashen nest
It's not. Battlefield has always been very little ammo
wary mason
if supports and walking to ammo stations isn't enough
ashen nest
it's called realistic gameplay with taxes and shit dumping
you don't see real soldiers carry more than a few mags
wary mason
đ i rarely have ran out myself
mossy onyx
But still more than 1
wary mason
you can visit a resupply station when you spawn to grab a 3rd mag
daring vale
whats the button for the the heal packet that all classes can carry?
or whatever its called
topaz dome
5
daring vale
thanks
topaz dome
can give yourself ammo holding the 3 button on support
ashen nest
that is BAD
solid hinge
ALso quoting realistic game play when we a support can give unlimited ammo
ashen nest
also the respawn is ridiculous
mossy onyx
^^
solid hinge
respawns arent realistic
mossy onyx
No shit
hushed comet
virtual shooting IS realistic
solid hinge
hard to tell what sarcasm is over text
hushed comet
hard to tell if my wife is angry or not over text lo
violet locust
Respawns will hopefully be fixed by launch
ashen nest
blah. it was a /s but at any case it's closer to immersion than being able to carry 200+ ammo
let's just make a head canon that we are at the final stages of WW2 and ammo is scarce /s
topaz dome
btw, use incendiaries to deny revives on people who are bleeding out
pliant geyser
ammo is fine.
violet locust
It does seem to take a while, from skipping/waiting for revive, til the time you can spawn in again
pliant geyser
ammo forces people to stop camping and find ammo its perfectly fine
merry ivy
rrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
ashen nest
it says skip revive yet I still have to wait a shit ton of hours
mossy onyx
Narvik was in 1940 I think
merry ivy
The best part is that I could see them during the whole thing
usually you're just aiming at red dots in BF1
violet locust
True, skipping revive does take a bit of time. Not really necessary
ashen nest
they might as well remove that skip revive option, make the bleed out timer the same as current skip revive so i can fiddle around with the interwebs while respawning
inland valley
Am i the only one who revives and gets punished because of it
violet locust
Haha
merry ivy
Smoke the hell out of everything man
inland valley
hmm
merry ivy
that's what I did in BF1 and with underhand tosses its even better in BFV
violet locust
And what do you mean by punished? No one else revives? Which is true for the most part
merry ivy
are rolling grenade tosses better than normal ones? maybe not but it looks cool as fuck
violet locust
No one really revives in BF1 either, so it's not really a surprise tbh
inland valley
no i get killed every time. I just cant pull off one of them
inland valley
okay thanks i will try that
merry ivy
or kill the surrounding enemies and wait for them to piss off
but good luck doing that with an SMG
violet locust
Yeah, I don't think there's a way to cancel the animation once you start it
inland valley
SMGs are cool but not for medic
merry ivy
this pretty much
topaz dome
how do I do a underhanded toss?
merry ivy
I need firepower at distance to play medic properly
otherwise I'm only effective within a very small radius that I need to force into range of my enemy
which does shit for trying to get enemies further than close range away from your team
violet locust
Should just be able to poke the person like BF1 
merry ivy
I like the revive animation on a personal level
I want to be able to look my teammate in the eyes and tell them that its alright
inland valley
yeah
violet locust
Animations for everything
robust pebble
Anyone wanna buy
inland valley
Some people say it breaks immersion
merry ivy
I find being able to click in the direction of my teammate to have them spring back to life
a bit more immersion breaking
blissful otter
"Is there a max class level? Are they adding more weps later?" @raw chasm The max lv yet is 20
blissful otter
merry ivy
jesus christ can it not knock the gun 15 degrees away from what I am trying to shoot?
I get it, bipod, you want to be used like you were in BF1
inland valley
Yeah what i mean is that you are not really playing the game you are watching it most of the time
inland valley
ok
errant cloak
Any tips for seeing people better? I do alright as a sniper but when I go assault I feel like people have to be moving and 20 ft in front of me before I see them sometimes.
mossy onyx
Just dug a massive trench at the north of Narvik
merry ivy
I don't get all the problems people have with seeing people
on Narvik its like they're fluorescent white
and stand out really easy against the grey white/black backdrop
errant cloak
Maybe graphics settings? Should I adjust those?
ashen nest
I'm like 0.4 meters away from my 23" monitor and I also have a hard time seeing them
i'm between high-ultra settings too
errant cloak
Because it all just blends to me, and I have a hard time seeing the difference between allies and enemies
I'm on ultra everything
ashen nest
sometimes your ally icon from a distance will overlap with an enemy :E
drowsy dew
Holdup so what's the difference between stuka 1 and stuka 2 real quick
plush mantle
violet locust
Agreed about the bipod
mossy onyx
I built a trench
violet locust
errant cloak
Hah nice
merry ivy
WW1 reeinactment in the middle of WW2
errant cloak
I called in a tank last game and nobody would get in it =/ Helped us secure the win though
icy sluice
That's actually fucking cool
ashen nest
how the hell do u build a trench?
icy sluice
That's gotta help the attackers in Narvik right?
ashen nest
BFV is actually my first battlefield game it's vastly different from other war shooters. đŚ
mossy onyx
It's at the northern end of the Narvik map (the snowy one)
solid hinge
@ashen nest youre lucky actually that you havent
grand merlin
Support players can even build guns
solid hinge
bf5 is drastically different than other bf titles
ashen nest
man if it's only on steam then it will be cheaper for me đ˘
ashen nest
yeah
solid hinge
which is garbage
ashen nest
so rip
solid hinge
because origin is broken
ashen nest
yeah i onyl made an origin account to try out the beta
solid hinge
Ive had origin delete games Ive boughten before
ashen nest
i never wanted to get origin or buy any origin only games but man bfv is just good
solid hinge
Have you tried arma?
ashen nest
Nah i dont own it on steam
solid hinge
Bf5 to me feels like a worse arma 3
grand merlin
...
ashen nest
Lmao, at least it has better graphics and well, better framerates
ashen nest
i tried arma 3 pirated
solid hinge
Yes, they are comparable
ashen nest
shit is badly optimized
mossy onyx
^^
solid hinge
Arma is barely a milsim
grand merlin
Kay bud
ashen nest
pubg is the real milsim /s
solid hinge
Seriously though, everything BF5 is doing, is in arma
merry ivy
fortnite is my military simulator
solid hinge
the only difference is ttd
ashen nest
Anyway, bfv is definitely a military war simulator
maybe not the whole military thing but the war part
solid hinge
Oh dont say that
ashen nest
the shooty shooty boom boom part
solid hinge
people here will argue with you
icy sluice
tmw Battlefield's graphics are the best in the genre and people say it looks like shit.
ashen nest
the snow map is noticeable worse than the town map
ashen nest
the town one is absolutely amazeballs, which was showcased on nvidia's rtx right
graphics wise, not gameplay
merry ivy
the snow map works much better on grand ops than it does on conquest
merry ivy
but on conquest it still "works", if you consider a map working to be running around in snow for 5 minutes until running into someone
haughty citrus
It doesnât work that good on ops, even though. If your team is decent it does, but too often BFV delves into camping battles
ashen nest
how many game modes do we have anyway?
mossy onyx
3
ashen nest
tides of war and conquest feels the same
mossy onyx
Airborne, Breakthrough and Conquest
haughty citrus
Operations is def not conquest
conquest is the âtrue battlefield experienceâ
Ops is a lot more action packed than conquest, though
ashen nest
i like ops better than conquest
conquest forces you to go back and forth objectives and it feels utterly exhausting for me
haughty citrus
Itâs also my favorite mode but you will find a lot of die hard people who like the run in a circle idea of conquest
ashen nest
ops gives me a better sense of the attacking and defending action
haughty citrus
Provided youâre able to move up and donât get out skilled by a bipod chainsaw that is
grand merlin
@solid hinge So Arma 3 and BF are not comparable
Arma 3 most engagements are over 300 meters
mossy onyx
Fuck, I got the revive bug again
mossy onyx
Yes they do
grand merlin
No they are not
grand merlin
Not even close, and at this rate I doubt you have even played arma
solid hinge
I doubt you played either
mossy onyx
Oof
solid hinge
BF5 feels like a bad version of squad, happy?
shell slate
what platform do most people in here play on? or is it just a mix
mossy onyx
Arma's optimisation is pretty bad
grand merlin
You know why?
solid hinge
Yes it does
solid hinge
But they feel exactly the same
ashen nest
who developed arma anyway? it's REALLY unoptimised
solid hinge
They are similar games
mossy onyx
Of course they're similar
solid hinge
Bf5 is trying to be a arcade milsim
ashen nest
probably has worse optimization that PUBG, Dauntless
mossy onyx
They're a fucking FPS
grand merlin
At this point if a game has a gun I believe you would call it similar
solid hinge
No
grand merlin
Hell man evil within has a gun, it must be a bad doom
solid hinge
At this point I think you havent played either game
BF1 doesnt have a similar feel to arma or squad
mossy onyx
Of course not
solid hinge
and Im not the only one who think they feel similar
grand merlin
Who?
solid hinge
Hey guys, hope you're having a great day playing the Battlefield 5 Beta đ
Check every reddit
check youtubers
There are people who see the similar feel
mossy onyx
If you've ever played Arma and Battlefield, you'd know that they're different
solid hinge
Im not saying the games are similar
Im saying they feel similar
Remember to leave feedback in the forums and on reddit!
grand merlin
Youtubers are dipshits riding the hate train
solid hinge
There is a difference
We need as much feedback as possible
Every little bit counts đ
Im not riding the hate train, I just have some dislike of the massive changes
They basically mixed core with hardcore
and I fucking despised hardcore
rose pilot
As we've said a dozen times before, impersonating as EA/DICE will get you banned.
solid hinge
How the hell do you get the ingame voice chat to work? I havnt heard a single player afer at least 10 games
mossy onyx
I disabled mine
icy sluice
The Suomi KP's extended mag changes the size from 20 to 50
solid hinge
they just run around mindlessly pretending they know what they are doing
hybrid dragon
Everyone uses discord or the voice chat from Playstation or Xbox there is literally no reason to use VOIP in game 
solid hinge
@hybrid dragon Well, there is if you solo que
@hybrid dragon there is if you want to communicate with the randoms in your squad
violet locust
solid hinge
Some of us would like some semblance of squad play without joining a clan
but at this point I feel it's, join a clan or dont buy the game
hybrid dragon
You mean the random kids, who are just swearing a lot and being obnoxious? I'll pass.
solid hinge
Ive never had that in a bf title actually
Most of the time theyve been fairly respectful and actually trying to talk about tactics
pliant geyser
Sadly what Battlefield needs is not what they have been doing in the last 3 or 4 installments.
hybrid dragon
Or that dude with a microphone from the year 1998 who you can't understand at all.
solid hinge
but I get maybe one person on a mic in everyone 100 matches it seems
violet locust
It's more in the in-game chat than it is in VOIP actually 
pliant geyser
Battlefield needs to cater to the people who want a more complicated more refined experience .
solid hinge
Umm... I have a microphone from 98 and it's probably better than yours
pliant geyser
Not the ones who want more run and gun in small maps
daring vale
I'm enjoying BFV quite a lot. The atmosphere feels really good about it.
solid hinge
its an old studio mic that is basically the same thing as other high end mics
grand merlin
Cancer...
mossy onyx
The BFV VOIP is probably not good so it won't really make a difference
grand merlin
A mic from 98 is not better then a new high end one
ashen nest
i want a linear war map
pliant geyser
ww2 would have been the perfect battlefield for adopting more complicated mechanics, like Armor penetration system, analog artillery systems, dive bombing tactics with air brakes etc.
grand merlin
You know why?
solid hinge
@grand merlin Thats far from true.Same with headsets
grand merlin
Tech advances throughout the years
violet locust
@ashen nest there's a couple in BF1 
pliant geyser
not true wind
grand merlin
And 20 years later your stuff is shit
solid hinge
Ok, then why is the hd600 still the gold standard and thats over 20 years old
@mossy onyx Being able to communicate with your squad is pretty crucial
pliant geyser
Audio equipment in particular is weird, a headphone amp from say 1990 can be better than a newly produced one.
solid hinge
microphone and headset technology can only go so far
icy sluice
Kinda surprised that the Suomi's Extended Mag upgrade isn't a drum
solid hinge
Tanks and planes are different
stone saffron
looking for people to play with sqd 2 na
modern harbor
I swear a lot sometimes lol
grand merlin
Anything can be improved
stone saffron
get good
modern harbor
Frustrating to be on a team that isnt doing anything
solid hinge
Yes, but youre talking about a magnet that vibrates
grand merlin
And?
stone saffron
i need to get good at eatting things
icy sluice
You're a magnet that vibrates... gottem
solid hinge
Plus look at bf5, BC2 was superior and thats older.
stone saffron
sqd 2 looking for my daddy
solid hinge
just because its newer doesnt make it better
hybrid dragon
BC2 superior lol
modern harbor
Bc2 was good
solid hinge
How is bc2 not superior to bf5?
stone saffron
time to kill is way to high
grand merlin
Hey cancer
solid hinge
The main differnece, and the reason microphones and sound equipment 30 years old might sound better is due to the analog vs. digital
it's clunky, buggy, and has issues
yes
hybrid dragon
You know this is a super early build right of the beta?
grand merlin
God damn I truly hope you are acting
edgy spoke
Youâre joking
hybrid dragon
Also I think BC2 was good but it's mostly just nostalgia for me at this point.
I liked BF4 way more.
icy sluice
What are your issues again? Don't go in depth just like summarize it to save energy
solid hinge
People who are color blind can not see the kill cam, the enemies, or most of anything
Your issues being?
hybrid dragon
Well i'm not colorblind so I could care less about that.
solid hinge
The fact that its way slower and forces squad play via punishment
grand merlin
You do know there should be colorblind mode in the settings?
stone saffron
WAY TO HIGH 3 headshots to kill LAUGHABLE
pliant geyser
1 thing has to happen before most of the old Battlefield Vanguard come back to loving BF games. BASES, we need to bring bases back and spawning vehicles in the bases. Spawning in vehicles is trash.
edgy spoke
Time to killis hardly high
solid hinge
@grand merlin that doesnt chance the fact that players and walls look exactly the same
grand merlin
Wut
mossy onyx
There is a colourblind mode in the settings
solid hinge
This has been a long standing issue with BF titles and colorblindness
hybrid dragon
So what exactly was so great about bases? Nothing in particuler.
stone saffron
LOL @edgy spoke its super high af. I have to dump 6 rounds into someone sometimes 7
edgy spoke
Time to kill is relatively quick in comparison to like 4
stone saffron
LOL
solid hinge
TTk is super quick
stone saffron
ttk isnt 4 was low af
solid hinge
I use colorblind mode starting with a T, the colors are sharper and not as light/watered down
a bit to fast for such a large number of players imo, then you mix in no regen hp
edgy spoke
4 was stupid quick
edgy spoke
I just hated the engagement distances in 4
stone saffron
so that means bf4 was amazing
hybrid dragon
Battlefield 4 TTK and optimizations were the best.
edgy spoke
It was either 10 clicks out or right on top of ya
icy sluice
The M30 Rifle bullet does more damage than the Lee Enfield, does it not?
That's an actual question.
vernal drum
when ever I spawn the deploy overlays show for 10 seconds then it goes cinimatic, help please
solid hinge
I didnt like the bren in the alpha, dont like it in the beta
and then the biggest issue at the end of the day with bf5, is the same as bf1.... its just way too serious
I miss the days of jihading a plane into a tank
mossy onyx
You can still do that
solid hinge
or launching a boat onto a building
@mossy onyx no you cant, you cant put land mines on the wings
mossy onyx
Thought you meant crashing it into the tank
solid hinge
crashing into one isnt the same as a jihad
mossy onyx
I mean, it would be but fair enough
solid hinge
No a jihad is basically taking something, loading it with explosives and then exploding it just before impact to kill it
jihad is an actual bf term
pliant geyser
Can anyone explain to me why DICE is obsessed with random particles just dirtying up the maps ?
solid hinge
because they want graphics over frames
pliant geyser
dumb snow storms, or random pieces of confetti, or garbage smoke that obscures the entire map.....
solid hinge
@mossy onyx real jihad isnt the same as Battlefield lingo
pliant geyser
DICE for the love of god stop it let the map stay the same from start to finish
strong parrot
@icy sluice it might be 65
pliant geyser
no stupid sand storms no dumb snow storms nothing dumb just let the maps be competitive consistent experiences.
and thank you for getting rid of the idiotic color grading
solid hinge
either way, I cant do the goofy weird stuff I used to be able to do. I miss launching tanks into the sky to try to crash them into planes
or getting them across the battlefield faster
icy sluice
Flying in a Half-Track
solid hinge
imagine a halftrack on top of the bridge raining down bullets
mossy onyx
You might be able to in the full game
solid hinge
@mossy onyx you cant do it in the full game either
mossy onyx
How would you know?
solid hinge
its something they dont want in the game
I wish they got rid of weapon unique reticles/sight model and used one per rifle type.'
they want to take a more serious path
worn knot
Anyone have any idea how to play as an attacker in grand ops? I have loaded into probably 20 different games and I play as defense every single time.
mossy onyx
You could just play the old games if you want to launch a tank
solid hinge
if they did, we wouldnt have exit animations
But no one plays them anymore
because they are super old
mossy onyx
Just because it's not in the new game doesn't mean they're not there at all
strong parrot
@worn knot do you not swap after finishing the whole operation as one side?
worn knot
no. its crazy
ive played to the end probably 5 times now and stay on defense each time
strong parrot
oof..I mean do you really want to be an attacker though, those teammates 
worn knot
lol
mossy onyx
You get to parachute down
It has a pretty cool opening if you get in the plane early enough
solid hinge
the parachute barely works not
mossy onyx
How so?
solid hinge
because they didnt want it to be a way to avoid fall damage
like it was in previous titles
mossy onyx
They said they wanted realism
mossy onyx
I don't think in real life you can jump of a hill and open a parachute
With a couple seconds in the air
solid hinge
Not can a sturmtiger require 4 shots to kill a valentine
its a 380mm cannon
that fires a self propelled rocket
strong parrot
380 btw...
south lynx
As opposed to all those non-self-propelling rockets?
strong parrot
if they gave that tank an actual round to shoot it would be like a mini v2
solid hinge
No as opposed to the fact it was designed to wipe out entire cities
strong parrot
a 380mm rocket wouldnt wipe out a city 
solid hinge
4 shots to kill a valentine isnt acceptable when they are claiming realism
No a single one wouldnt
but thats what the original idea behind the sturmtiger was
it never worked out like that
mossy onyx
A Panzerschreck should take less shots to kill a normal vehicle
south lynx
The Sturmtiger wasn't designed to wipe out cities, it was designed to be a bunker buster. They used it to demolish a decent chunk of the Warsaw ghetto.
mossy onyx
In the game
solid hinge
but the rounds did have a massive explosive payload
Tanks are just mediocre in game
They are flimsy so youre going to require support
mossy onyx
The Panzerschreck needs a buff
south lynx
You mean, just like how real tanks require infantry support?
mossy onyx
The amount of times you have to shoot it to actually explode something is ludicrous
south lynx
And are hideously vulnerable to infantry-portable AT when unsupported?
haughty citrus
If it actually was like real life you could only hit the weaker armor in the rear or at absurdly close range
solid hinge
I have
south lynx
A tank in an urban environment unsupported by infantry is dead.
haughty citrus
You should be able to have dynamite and the panzerschreck
solid hinge
It was more common for them to be unsupported
south lynx
Oh good, you're back to lying about everything.
solid hinge
also Im talking about just to go to a flag I need a ton of people with me
because its a large slow target with firepower that isnt the best
the point Im trying to make is that, tanks will be camping way more than bf1
south lynx
Tanks operated in conjunction with infantry constantly, it was doctrine on both sides to use indirect fire where possible to strip tanks of their supporting infantry because it was proven that without infantry support tanks were vulnerable to close assault.
solid hinge
which means team mates will be teamkilling them a lot more
solid hinge
No Im not
south lynx
If tanks in BFV were realistic, it would be a very different game.
solid hinge
I was talking about how they quote realism but make a 380mm cannon take 4 shots to kill a light tank
spiral pollen
Which is the best class to use?
solid hinge
thats where I was going with that line
haughty citrus
If you want realism, offensive action for the German army had tanks move up with motorized or mechanized infantry following behind. Therefore we would all be in vehicles dismounting once we enter combat and assume defensive positions around a tank
Very little of the German army had motorized transport
solid hinge
I was going with the fact people will be camping with the tanks because relying on your team for support is a bad idea
and most people will be camping with them
and not assaulting objectives with them
haughty citrus
also teammates in this game as just as dumb as bf1
solid hinge
which in turn will cause team mates to try and team kill them
spiral pollen
Hey guys can I please know which class is the best one to use?
solid hinge
assault
ionic igloo
All of them
haughty citrus
Medic or assault
mossy onyx
But this is Battlefield, they should be pushing up
solid hinge
they cant be pushing up
mossy onyx
That's what used to happen
haughty citrus
this game isnât built for offensive play
ionic igloo
Get the recon if you're attacking
errant cloak
I like playing Watch the map and spend the whole game in chat
mossy onyx
Recon for attack?
solid hinge
You need a ton of infantry support to move up first
ionic igloo
solid hinge
then you bring the tank up when its clear
haughty citrus
this game is literally defensive wars and wear the enemy line by attrition
mossy onyx
What can take out a tank easily in Battlefield V?
solid hinge
panzershreks
mossy onyx
Because a Panzerschreck can't
errant cloak
2 tanks
haughty citrus
two assaults with dynamite or schrecks
solid hinge
@mossy onyx panzershrek is an easy kill
mossy onyx
Panzerschrecks aren't good
solid hinge
Yes they are
atomic willow
Tanks got nothing on Shrek
mossy onyx
They take way too many shots
solid hinge
no it doesnt
haughty citrus
they do take too many shots
hybrid dragon
Be support> Get ammo at a supply crate> Walk to the tank> Climb on it> Drop the 3 mines> Profit.
mossy onyx
Does for me
errant cloak
Yeah, but you need 50,000 points to get the Shrek drop
errant cloak
But after that... It's all Ogre 
mossy onyx
Oof, I hit mine from the side
solid hinge
which means a single infantry can kill it
So two or more, the tank is instantly deleted
and cant react to it
solid hinge
even a single infantry
mossy onyx
Especially if it's coming at you
solid hinge
I have yet to have an issue taking down a tank
which a panzershrek
it about as easy if not easier than in bf4 because they reload way faster than the rpg did
atomic willow
to be fair, in bf3 one man with an rpg could easily go toe to toe with a tank
solid hinge
similar damage models, but ricochets are in bf5 unlike bf4
mossy onyx
But that was BF3
atomic willow
my point being, not much has changed
solid hinge
In bf1 tanks a single infantry couldnt easily solo
The turret speed is so slow, just juke them, go in circles
solid hinge
not to mention the main gun won't one hit you unless its adirect hit
in bf5 a single infantry can easily solo a tank from long ranges
mossy onyx
That's because in BF1 there was barely anything to counter the tanks
If you were infantry
Aside from dynamite
solid hinge
lets not forget its machine gun has a fast heat up period
haughty citrus
bf1 was easy to kill tanks
One assault had enough to do just that
3 dynamite 2 AT mines
atomic willow
not as easy, you had to get close
solid hinge
BF1 they didnt want a single infantry to kill a tank, they were trying to force squad play
haughty citrus
nades*
atomic willow
there was no rocket alternative
solid hinge
in bf1 by making tanks actually tanky
solid hinge
and bf1 tanks were still made of paper
The entire idea for most people is that, its a tank, it should beable to support infantry and you know blindly assault objectives
but they cant. which causes issues
If I dont instantly rush a flag in bf1, I sometimes will have team mates grabbing another tank to push me in or someone trying to get me killed
Tanks are a death trap on Narvik
Yes
rotterdam they were better but not by much
daring vale
Wait do we have the panzerfaust in this build of the beta?
solid hinge
yes
soft tulip
BFV is #bestgame
solid hinge
rank 3 assault unlock
soft tulip
Shooting a panz3rfaust is fun but mines do more damage
mossy onyx
What?
solid hinge
yes
soft tulip
Lol
regal sapphire
God the STG is so op
solid hinge
panzerfaust is a rank 3 assault unlock
how is the stg op?
I cant get a kill with it
soft tulip
Yes STG is bae tap tap tap
solid hinge
it gets beat out by everything
violet locust
Are you kidding?
regal sapphire
Are you that bad cancer?
mossy onyx
The STG is amazing
solid hinge
No
soft tulip
Aim for the head
mossy onyx
Upgrade it
strong parrot
lmao
solid hinge
Im not, the last match I played I did better with my handgun than the stg
strong parrot
ok this kid cant even use an stg
violet locust
It's one of the most OP guns in the beta right now, lol
strong parrot
i cant take his crying about tanks anymore
solid hinge
Seriously?
mossy onyx
The easiest to use as well
regal sapphire
It literally beats anything 1 vs 1
strong parrot
its literally...sad
mossy onyx
Even I can use it, and that's saying something
solid hinge
The sten was better for me
soft tulip
Cancer bait
hollow mulch
Itâs not great at anything but itâs good enough at everything
solid hinge
Let me see if I recorded it. I get 3 hits on someone at around 30m, and they turn around and blap me with a hand gun to insta kill me
if its upgraded, yeah I can see it being good
strong parrot
its good stock...
solid hinge
but un upgraded I had issues with close range
strong parrot
learn to aim
solid hinge
I can aim
hollow mulch
Sidearms seem to have kept their CQB effectiveness from BF1 it would seem
strong parrot
then you can use an stg
mossy onyx
If you know how to play then you're using the STG
soft tulip
I couldn't hit anything with the handguns
regal sapphire
It's good stock lol
solid hinge
I did 40-10 with it but it felt like trash
regal sapphire
Pistols are very weak right now
mossy onyx
^^
solid hinge
pistols are godly
hollow mulch
I really wanted to like 34 but I keep failing in cqb with it
regal sapphire
Are we playing the same game?
mossy onyx
Hahaha
solid hinge
Also Im not bitching about tanks, Im bitching about forced team play
desert dune
Seconded. I've been having a really good streak using pistols
strong parrot
forced team play...in battlefield?! 
mossy onyx
I can only get a kill with a pistol from close range but I'm really good with the STG
regal sapphire
Forced team play is shit
hollow mulch
I just wish the air meta was more meaningful
solid hinge
If I want ammo I have to melee a friendly support
Getting shot from the back count- too many
a bunch of times just to get killed by a sniper
mossy onyx
Yes
hollow mulch
Atm air combat is shite, and does literally zilch to help the team
mossy onyx
Always getting killed by a sniper in BFV
regal sapphire
Hoa it's the only way people can kill without going to a med station across the map
solid hinge
guess ill try the stg again
solid hinge
last match I played with it I rage quitted the game
hollow mulch
Freakin Rotterdamâs A point. Bloody place is where I keep getting shot in the back no matter what I do
solid hinge
@regal sapphire I used to anticipate them by the footsteps
No more...
The sten was easier to kill at range with that match
for me
thorn condor
Btw, the Ruby is FAR better than the P38
solid hinge
^
violet locust
I stay away from A flag, unless it's where we spawn. I can't stand people sitting up on that bridge
solid hinge
ruby is godly
hollow mulch
I just want my M1911 back
solid hinge
It seems I'll suffer in BF V as I did in the early state of BF 1
regal sapphire
Alot less damage...
hollow mulch
Give me that and the Garand and Iâll be a happy person
violet locust
M1911 <3
thorn condor
The P38 damage barely matters when half the shots miss
hollow mulch
ping
regal sapphire
I can hit with it pretty good
I literally can't kill one person with the rub
ruby*
thorn condor
I destroy with the ruby
solid hinge
I feel both of them similar, I don't know
thorn condor
I spam really fast like I do with the hammerless
thorn condor
The P38 just feels awful, and the ruby reload animation is great â¤
hollow mulch
I like to tap tap tap my way to victory, just like in BF4
solid hinge
see the fg42 i thought was amazing
thorn condor
I just wonder why soldiers are still firing pistols with 1 hand
hollow mulch
Does anybody know if the mp-40 is in the beta build?
solid hinge
@hollow mulchyep
hollow mulch
Yeees
regal sapphire
FG42 does HORRIBLE damage
thorn condor
The medics equivalent to the scorpion evo is amazing once you master the up and to the left recoil pattern
solid hinge
Rank 10 assault unlock
hollow mulch
At least some iconic ww2 weaponry wasnât left out
regal sapphire
I just got 2 headshots on someone and did 52 damage only
thorn condor
my assignments are bugged, it keeps saying to capture 5 points on the snow map but I know I have done that already
regal sapphire
It literally takes one magazine to kill someone with it
hollow mulch
So what do you guys think about the map design so far?
thorn condor
Ronderdam can be frustrating with buildings that have like 4 levels just to block all doorways
solid hinge
Just need more resupply stations for tanks
regal sapphire
How is that good?
solid hinge
its rotterdam xd
hollow mulch
Idk, some flag feel pretty poorly designed. rotterdam A point
thorn condor
@solid hinge 
đĄ
solid hinge
kut rotterdam
solid hinge
why not amsterdam
thorn condor
Best map so far, but only 2 maps đ¤Ł
regal sapphire
Exactly! lol
solid hinge
@regal sapphire 1 of 2, don't tell me
regal sapphire
I was gonna say that
solid hinge
norway and rotterdamn
hollow mulch
Narvick does kinda play worse, but itâs the only one with planes in it đ
regal sapphire
Eh fuck planes
hollow mulch
But the air combat is horrendous
solid hinge
I feel Narvik is way too bright
regal sapphire
Idc
thorn condor
I just love how I can get 5 sniper hitmarkers back to back, but everyother sniper ALWAYS gets the headshot on me đĄ
hollow mulch
Iâve always been more of a pilot then a groundpounder since bf3 and the planes suck in bfv
regal sapphire
Happens to me all the time too devin
thorn condor
I know not every BFV sniper is that good
hollow mulch
Since when were prop planes less maneuverable then jets?!
violet locust
Git gud Devin 
đĄ
solid hinge
Man, I miss BF 1 bolt-action rifle feeling
hollow mulch
Sniping in general has gotten much easier since bf4
thorn condor
Sniping better in BF1 đ
hollow mulch
Literally no bullet drop or speed since bf1
solid hinge
@thorn condor nope, just the sound and animations
thorn condor
I dont like lots of drop đ
regal sapphire
Sniping in this game is so fuckin hard
regal sapphire
Arrows are faster than these bullets
violet locust
I saw you in my Ops match last night Devin
icy sluice
I love the headshot noise
regal sapphire
I used to snipe in Bf4, wasn't hard at all
thorn condor
BF4. where every sniper shoots at equivalent of throwing a rock
@violet locust đ
solid hinge
Used Lee Enfield without a scope
regal sapphire
BF4's snipers had incredible bullet velocity wtf?
violet locust
We just happened to be on the same server lol
solid hinge
In Rotterdanm
hollow mulch
Harder then BF1 thatâs for sure
solid hinge
Got rekt
thorn condor
@regal sapphire Most snipers in BF4 shot at like Martini speed
regal sapphire
Fuckin arrows are faster than BF5 bullets though
opal lodge
lol
regal sapphire
I still find that it was super easy to snipe
thorn condor
Gib me my G98 bullet velocity back :C
regal sapphire
It was the only game I was actually decent at it, that's why I remember it
hollow mulch
Easy? Maybe, in the right places, but they were never really game changers
violet locust
Phantom bow
solid hinge
By the way, where's the BF 1 ost?
hollow mulch
The right way to play recon in bf4 was to grab a carbine and go at it
violet locust
@solid hinge you can find it on Soundcloud
hollow mulch
M4 is bae
regal sapphire
All guns should get some kind of Bullet velocity buff in BF5 imo
solid hinge
The BFV ost doesn't sound as epic as the BF 1s
regal sapphire
Sometimes you have to lead targets 5 meters away from you
hollow mulch
Nobody ever talked about the soundtrack in BF1, but I always thought that it was amazing
solid hinge
bf1 soundtrack was good
hollow mulch
Really stood out from all other bf games it did
solid hinge
I just wanted a BF 1 based on WWII
best was when that sniper died song from a turkish girl
With less explosive spam and no sweet spot
hollow mulch
BF1 ww2 with bf4 gun mechanics for me
violet locust
Here's the OST for BF1: https://m.soundcloud.com/battlefield_official
hollow mulch
Give me that recoil control
icy sluice
I can start to control the Suomi
solid hinge
Why DiCe, Why!!!!!???
hollow mulch
And less of this hip firing Rambo smg shite
icy sluice
On the road to mastering that spray and pray
hollow mulch
That MP-18 on BF1 was a hip firing monster
solid hinge
@hollow mulch yep
regal sapphire
BF1 with Bf5's gun mechanics? GIB NAOW
hollow mulch
Also, does anybody else think the TTK is little too slow?
hollow mulch
Itâs like between BF1 and bf4 ttk
regal sapphire
^
violet locust
You're getting that confused with TTD
hollow mulch
Pff, of course if you land those headshots youâll be golden, but itâs seriously frustrating when I dump bullets into a body shot but then he just nopes me with his sidearm
violet locust
The TTD is too fast, which is why you don't have time to react
regal sapphire
Na, the STG TTK is too fast
violet locust
You're getting killed faster than you have time to react or do anything
hollow mulch
I think faster TTK should be offset with more difficult gun mechanics
regal sapphire
I prefer a bit slower with less recoil
solid hinge
I did the rocket thing. I wasn't recording sadly, but it was a juicy multi-kill
@violet locust
Having your squadmates spread out and having no full health helps a lot
violet locust
solid hinge
To even out the universe, I also accidentially dropped it on myself the next round
balanced as all things should be
violet locust
I only got 2 kills when I called one in
icy sluice
First time I called one in was just 25 damage
storm marlin
What does the number mean
solid hinge
level
icy sluice
Level of the plane
grand merlin
Vehicle level
violet locust
Vehicle level
icy sluice
Ya know what I find cool?
grand merlin
The vehicle level allows you to upgrade it past a certain teir
icy sluice
Okay, you know what I find cool and shit at the same time?
solid hinge
ice cream diarrhea?
icy sluice
You can have whatever three planes as the selection regardless of plane class, but it doesn't change the icon when deploying
Or at least that's what it looks like
Not terrible shit but more like a slight shit
Like a tiny turd
solid hinge
I think it's odd that you share weapons between factions, and so you're always getting exp, but leveling up a tank of the same class doesn't transfer to the other ones
making vehicles REALLY grindy to get
everything done for
Does anyone know why there's an acurracy stat when it's supposed to be no spread in this game?
solid hinge
@solid hinge
True
icy sluice
There's spread in the game
solid hinge
When I quit agame, I wish it would take me to the main menu, not the server browser
broken glade
I wish the main menu had an off button to quit like BF1 and 4 do
solid hinge
@icy sluice I didn't feel so LMAO
icy sluice
One thing I dislike about the menus is if you go back you go to the first selection not to what you've previously had selected. not on consoles
Spread from Hip-Fire at least
regal sapphire
There isn't any spread in the game
broken glade
The music is nice though, but I agree. Give us a fuggin BF theme
solid hinge
@icy sluice I'm referring to ADS spread
@regal sapphire then the acurracy stat is pointless..
This needs to not pop up. I don't need a giant text that removes important information to tell me what I can already see and hear.
icy sluice
I can agree that the FG42 has a fighting chance with SMGs like the Suomi and STG44 at close quarters
(Oi, this is me trying to get Battlefield chat into the battlefield chat @amber notch @grand merlin )
zealous void
as i took the screenshot
amber notch
the fg42 gives support players that dont have the drilling a chance to counter stg players
at close q
regal sapphire
the FG42 is so bad
zealous void
no its not lol @regal sapphire
south lynx
@solid hinge My guess would be that accuracy is based on the per-shot recoil pattern change from a given zero position.
regal sapphire
It is
broken glade
the half way there text is kind of stupid, yeah, in bf1 it was an audio cue
regal sapphire
2 headshots at medium range give out 54 damage
amber notch
because its built for close
south lynx
Control is probably related to the magnitude, and accuracy to the direction, at a guess.
amber notch
thats why
icy sluice
FG42 is easy to control for me
south lynx
Or possibly vice-versa.
regal sapphire
Even at close range you need like 6 to 7 bullets to kill someone
if you can even control the recoil
solid hinge
@icy sluice yeah, but long ranges
broken glade
I dont mind the recoil, stops people just spraying and praying
solid hinge
Actually, I can't see shit ay long ranges
grand merlin
Okay so I doubt you hit every bullet
regal sapphire
Yeah and the STG takes 3
regal sapphire
^
amber notch
broken glade
STG is OP as fuck and it feels great to use hahah
merry ivy
bren master race
grand merlin
Fuck yeah bren master race
regal sapphire
I hate the bren, and even the BREN is better than the FG42
amber notch
broken glade
STG is easy to control if you slow down and aim
solid hinge
What about Bren?
merry ivy
why do you hate top notch brit engineering
ill tell ya you bloody wanker i swear on me mum
violet locust
Lol
solid hinge
Pretty damn gud gun with a shitty sight
broken glade
oi m8 do you have a loicense for that bren gun
merry ivy
I find the sight alroight mate
solid hinge
But it reminds me of the Madsen
regal sapphire
I literally went 20-15 with the FG42, I usually go 50-15
merry ivy
I got used to the top mounted magazine pretty fast
regal sapphire
20-15 on ROTTERDAM
solid hinge
@merry ivy The problem are the snowflakes
merry ivy
I went down the mobility upgrade path with the Bren
solid hinge
And the bright
merry ivy
faster reloads, aiming and aiming walkspeed
so it feels less sluggish
seems to work out so far for aggressive mid range play
regal sapphire
The FG42 is my favourite WW2 gun aswell so
merry ivy
the stuka is my favourite weapon so far
because you can terrorize your enemies without even hitting them
regal sapphire
I just lost a gunfight FG-42 vs Sten at medium range
amber notch
fg42
lunar lion
"tanks suck"
solid hinge
Now, how to you guys have that KDR?
amber notch
lunar lion
its easy
thorn condor
The machine gun is op on tanks
broken glade
yes
thorn condor
I get killed by the machine gun far more than the shells
regal sapphire
The FG42 literally does 10 damage at range
lunar lion
i only use the lmg
broken glade
makes sense for the shells to kill vehicles rather than infy
thorn condor
@lunar lion Youre a bad person
lunar lion
@thorn condor 
solid hinge
The splash damage seems to be reduced
thorn condor
@lunar lion Banned\
broken glade
I think the tanks are balanced alright, they will shit on you if you dont take them out
lunar lion
broken glade
and they arent hard to take out if you know how
solid hinge
But a direct hit is always satisfying
violet locust
Where's your dab emote devin?
thorn condor
The panzer sucks, it has so much drop, more than the rocket gun, which makes no sense :C
amber notch
^
broken glade
Yeah the drop on the shells is too much I agree
thorn condor
violet locust
Lol
broken glade
even the drop on the panzerfaust is huge
regal sapphire
No I can't stand the Fg42 sorry
solid hinge
Buff the STG @amber notch
amber notch
PLEASE NO
regal sapphire
Buff the FG42 at range
solid hinge
It needs to live up to its title
fathom pebble
saying MTC is bad is the kindest thing you can ever say to him
solid hinge
As the 1st successful assault rifle