i sooo want to play it
#battlefield-legacy-titles
neon plume
turbid tinsel
I remember last year I got into the star wars battlefront 2 closed beta
and of course it was the week I was on vacation
oh wait wrong chat
solid hinge
LUL
charred dawn
BF1 Keeps crashing midway through the match with no error message ΰ² _ΰ²
thorn condor
@charred dawn AMD?
charred dawn
yes
thorn condor
Are you on newest update of windows, 1803?
charred dawn
yes
thorn condor
You will needa uninstall the newest security updates
Somehow the new security updates for 1803 broke the game
solid hinge
slow clap
thorn condor
Well see, AMD users not on 1803 were getting crashes, but now even if on 1803 you get crashes because of security updates
topaz wadi
great banter. it really is
thorn condor
I need Win 10 though because Forza Horzion π
gray glade
is the burton lmg any good?
lofty valley
Did the bf1 update release?
devout forge
yes
charred dawn
I just saw an enemy's rainbow glint through a wall
balmy ruin
Anyone had the bullets reaching the enemy late?
gray glade
no, but i did see people on a server today say that their hit registration felt off
solid hinge
you guys think bf1 will die after 5 releases or there will still be people playing
violet locust
I'm sure people will still play it
solid hinge
hm
do I want to buy revolution bf1 or just get origin access
BF1 is going to be uninstalled once BFV rolls around to never be touched again
is it that bad?
for me, the game is a slap in the face
casual gunplay mechanics, suppression up the ass, conquest being completely ruined by the idiotic ticketing system, grenade spam still being prevalent, Operation maps being essentially "body throwing" simulators on flag caps, Rush being tossed to the way side, and a non existent RPS system make this game for me the worst BF game I've ever played, and I only play it now to get a feel of how my system could possibly handle BFV.
dont really understand most of the stuff you said I just want to shoot people in the face and make stuff explode
lol
like in battlefield 3
rugged cairn
for the unlock reqs for the burton, does it mean I kill enemies on flags, or I have to be on a flag and killing enemies?
short creek
hello everyone
worn cave
@solid hinge my biggest gripe is the horrible stock integration of alternate gamemodes in the server browser, so everyone ignores them. Also the convoluted main menu method of accessing custom games like Standard Issue Rifles etc, so nobody gets to play them now...
^in BF1
Gameplay aside, just bad UI design for matches
solid hinge
oh yeah that also reminds me
all of the mindless game modes
war pigeons
fucking really
supply drop was barely touched
same with air assault
then again
solid hinge
I do contribute a poor rps to the limted action they saw
worn cave
Shouldn't be expected to manually create a browser filter for each mode
+10 slots hidden by default, kill me
solid hinge
Burton LMG is meh
solid hinge
because that'll totally be viable with the limited amount of ammo you have to fire as it'll do piss poor damage
it's shit like that really irks me
random, unneeded and completely useless additions
devout forge
I just can't understand how to push into sectors you're supposed to take as assault. Trying to flank, or creeping up the middle you just get killed by snipers or medics before you ever see them. Any advice?
solid hinge
Who like Battlefield Hardline?
astral mulch
good evening!
toxic briar
Is anyone else who has bf1 premium not able to use their dlc weapons?
I can equip them at the main menu but in game I can't use them
wooden hare
@toxic briar did you buy battlefield revolution?
wooden hare
I had to redownload all the the DLCs and everything worked fine again
obsidian fossil
guten morgen yalll
solid hinge
Wie geht es dir
obsidian fossil
seHr Gut, danke
solid hinge
Kein Problem
obsidian fossil
:)))
solid hinge
Anyone wanna play bf1
tardy basin
violet locust
π
gray glade
a banana
obsidian fossil
Restarting things usually helps
gray glade
repair BF1 installation
solid hinge
Nvm I had to go to the store itself and download it instead of ingame
violet locust
π
solid hinge
@violet locust want to get on BF1 and help me figure out the damn tunnels
violet locust
Can't atm 
solid hinge
violet locust
cedar bronze
Is closed alpha for PS4?
knotty canyon
nope, pc only
cedar bronze
solid hinge
Why am I hearing all about a Easter egg gun?
It's down in the tunnels
I just got very far
modern goblet
Yo
solid hinge
i got the key too!!!!
novel moth
right now gamma?
solid hinge
well it was 4 hours ago but i just opened the spam box
random cradle
they said it stopped 2 hours a go i think congrats
modern goblet
Anyone wanna play
raw chasm
No bfv code :(, noticed I had a bf1 inscursions beta invite though lmao
solar prairie
crap im so bored of my current library really wanted to play this weekend
solar prairie
whats new in the bf1 update?
gray glade
a few new weapons and they added shock operation game mode
shock operation is a 1-map operation for those maps that didnt have operations previously
so like, zeebrΓΌgge, battle of the somme etc
lethal sage
Is it just me or BF1 updating through origin goes slower the closer it gets to completion?
charred dawn
I wish i could use my Doughboy skin on the silenced 1911
remote lintel
so the new patch didnt fix the rubber banding and random server disconnect its even worst i get random loading black screen π¦
is it due to bfv implementation
raw chasm
That's the one thing I'm worried about bfv, will it have stable servers :0
remote lintel
connectivity is terrible ever since the may patch it was great before sadly
bronze questBOT
The Battlefield V Closed Alpha will go live in 6 hours 14 minutes 18 seconds! More info: https://www.battlefield.com/news/article/battlefield-5-closed-alpha-all-you-need-to-know
karmic hull
!alpha
bronze questBOT
The Battlefield V Closed Alpha will go live in 6 hours 9 minutes 35 seconds! More info: https://www.battlefield.com/news/article/battlefield-5-closed-alpha-all-you-need-to-know
timber plover
lmao dem system requirements seem kinda uh ridiclous
thorn heart
BFEE JUST SOLVED THE NEW MASTERMAN EGG. rewards peacekeeper pistol
somber salmon
u guys dont have this problem in BF1 that on operation the game like....skip the intro
anyone ?
i mean it go fast
crystal rock
@timber plover they are copypasted from BF1
timber plover
rlly
crystal rock
RLY
timber plover
Lmaoo thanks for this @novel moth
solid hinge
@fathom pebble how do you leave the room?
lofty valley
Support browning camper
solid hinge
?
lofty valley
Whoever had the browning equipped w probably was a camper
compact oxide
I can have a lot of fun playing aggressive browning on Passchendaele, but the Parabellum is normally better
topaz dome
"We're having an adventure just like the Goonies!"
sleek verge
Burton is really good
I haven't gotten to test it vs planes
But against infantry it shreds
crystal condor
i really love the burton and the new LIU bolt action THANK YOU DICE
sleek verge
I got a 10 killstreak with the m1911 suppressed earlier
raw chasm
Do you have to play the support class to unlock burton?
blazing cloak
when you get invited to the alpha but you dont have the cash to preorder.....
thorn heart
@raw chasm no just flag kills
@lofty valley >when you need the m1917 to unlock the peacekeeper
topaz dome
really happy right now, I think I fixed the stuttering problem I had with bf1
I had HPET timer on in the motherboard BIOS and on in windows, I turned it off in windows but kept it on in BIOS and problem seems to be gone
naive stream
Question for y'all. Anyone only get empty operations for the DLC maps?
topaz dome
are you NA or EU or "other" ?
check your filters, let it show you full servers, if you are in NA enable the Europe region
naive stream
I'm EU, I'll give those a look, thank you!
topaz dome
well if you are EU, enable North America then
naive stream
Ah, that's totally why
topaz dome
I live in the central united states and don't have problems with the european servers
solid hinge
1 min airship down 
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/278485693
celest wave
everyone here is waiting for the alpha begin?
omg,i cant wait
is 3am on my country
solid hinge
Burton LMR nice gun
celest wave
i need to sleep,but i cant
solid hinge
it's 02:09 pm here
celest wave
and he says?
naive stream
Got there eventually, @topaz dome thx again. Seems like the DLC maps are just very rare occurrences or something
thorn heart
im pissed as hell the stupid monster keeps killing me at 10th floor
versed notch
Revolver...
Ocelot
stoic estuary
It requires solving an Easter Egg. It's a lot of work. But worth it.
unborn iris
What's the general concensus on the burton? Shit or usable?
cerulean hatch
How do?
stoic estuary
There are complete guids in #peacekeeper-help in the BFEE server discord.gg/bfee
It has just been discovered, so videos from content creators like JackFrags and Westie will soon follow.
rose pilot
Please do not tag EA/DICE employees that aren't engaging in a conversation. @weary lichen
cerulean hatch
Ah okay thank you @stoic estuary
Can these be done by yourself on an empty server? Or do I need a whole bunch of buddies to do it
stoic estuary
It's still unclear if you have to do all previous Easter Egg stages in BF1 to get the weapon. (To get 4 dogtags and 1 weapon skin).
But everything is possible to be solved alone by yourself in pre-round
cerulean hatch
Ah okay
I guess I have something to do now lol
It's like 4 am so all the NA servers are gonna have a ton of empties to do the things in
tough yacht
obsidian fossil
so
obsidian fossil
people who were signed up for the origin/ea newsletter were randomly given a chance to get it via email
It could be in a spam folder
fair pine
paypal ready and verified
obsidian fossil
Logitech also had a giveaway (thats where me and my brother got ours) but thats over
Some youtubers will be giving away mire on their twitters or on streams
craggy coral
can somone help me with 1 unlock in bf4?
undone musk
@obsidian fossil Yea that giveaway was nice of them, to bad people from Europe didnt have any chance of joining the giveaway because we were still sleeping.
obsidian fossil
yeah good luck with that
solid hinge
damn i missed out on all the keys
undone musk
Same Ryan, but dont give up faith
solid hinge
mannn iβm just disappointed
sonic idol
Yo guys when i put in my disc of bf 1 for today well yesterday to exact I got an update and said yes to tht update but for today itβs not letting me connect on to multiplayer
Do u guys know the reason y
solid hinge
by being invited to the closed alpha
spiral adder
Is there any way to find old config files? I used to play bf1 and was really good. Now I've updated and returned i get way less fps around 40 less than i remember as well as my aim feeling sluggish as the sensitivity is all wrong.
Do i have to manually tweak things all over?
On pc btw
crystal rock
delete config files and start game so you get fresh files
that solved bad performance on my end in BF1 yest
solid hinge
@spiral adder if you ever find the config file again can you send it to me? my game is running like ass too π
Also what are your specs?
solid hinge
what settings?
if your aim is feeling sluggish that's probably Vsync, i would disable that
see if that fixes your fps and the sluggish response
but as far as sensitivity, You just gotta get in a game with a few people, find a spot with no one around, Or just go to campaign. and mess around with the sensitivity until you find the one you had before
@spiral adder
solid hinge
i'm pretty sure there is a different sensitivity setting for when your aiming
just gotta find it
and tweak it
then your golden
gray glade
might wanna check if raw mouse input has been activated as well and turn it off
tight plume
hey if BF4 was so good why isn't there a BF4 2 ??? 
wild agate
turbid tinsel
If Bad Company 2 was so good wheres Bad Company 2 II?
obsidian fossil
Bad Company 2^2
manic vessel
Bc2 squared
sleek elk
Can anyone borrow me a BFV for instant video
sleek elk
@solid hinge usKEY?
solid hinge
yeah
tight plume
cant wait for bf5 soundtrack bf1 had some insane tracks
sleek elk
@solid hinge Can you sell it to me?
raw chasm
Bf1 lobby music was pretty good lol
stoic estuary
Please don't buy Alpha keys from someone. The chances of you getting scammed is very high. Also they're not meant for trading. This is as Dice said only a short stability test. The content you see in every Gameplay Video about it, is all there is. Make sure to register your Email at battlefield.com for the newsletter, and better luck next time. This will most likely not be your last chance.
frozen sparrow
solar prairie
yeah like this guy on ebay selling one for 81$ with 16 bids LOL
topaz wadi
@solid hinge When did you get yours?
solid hinge
Email @topaz wadi
topaz wadi
When though ? What time @solid hinge
solid hinge
hey guys any way to get bfv aplha key on my email?
flint pond
hey guys what are the 3 best medic guns?
tight plume
for bf1 Autoloading, M1907, and after this patch General Liu Rifle
- fedorov if you are scrub
and for bf4 AEK971 fuck that gun and everyone who uses it
desert dune
Iβm an odd ball but I like to experiment with Marksman guns
Itβs helpful when I need to spot enemies
solid hinge
Is there anyone here that could possibly help me with my morse code on bf1?
turbid plume
solid hinge
Wait nvm, im an idiot excuse that.
sharp falcon
any battlefield V codes left?
jovial forge
I wonder when the peacemaker will be in a box.π€
Or unlocked outside morse code bs
raw chasm
Is there a site for weapons guides?
solid hinge
Behemoths ruined shock ops
swift plank
what the fuck is a shock op
violet locust
Uhh, Ops, except one map
drowsy wagon
aww i so wanted in the alpha.. didnt get a key:(
solid hinge
Do you want a key ? Become a very famous YTber or sk the dk of the game developpers. A piece of cake ! B)
drowsy wagon
lol
sonic idol
Yo guys should I get battlefield hardline
swift plank
NO
solid hinge
Counterpoint: yes
sonic idol
Y is tht? Is bc of bf5
strong remnant
Anyone knows will final game more optimized graphically?
solid hinge
It should be yes
raw chasm
Will be a video card patch when game drops
solid hinge
The purpose of Closed Alpha builds within games are to see how players run the game, what kind of bugs they come across, and how much stress the servers can take. Without these builds the final releases of games would be a disaster.
Alpha & Beta builds allow the developers to take enormous feedback from the players who are testing the game and fix major bugs in the process π
@raw chasm I assume so. Again, it is still June and the game is 4 months away from release. If you have any issues regarding optimization, graphics or such make sure to let the devs know in https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-closed-alpha-feedback-section
sharp merlin
lofty valley
nice even at the end of bf1 they still keep you from using the guns right away by having random service assignments
sonic idol
Hey guys curious question if I was gonna get Bf hardline should I get it on xbx1 or Xbox 360?
solid hinge
Not X1 nor X360. π
lofty valley
get it on pc so it can be easy for you
rancid fern
Question: say i have a closed alpha key but no pc, is that enough to get the dog tags i presume there will be in bfV
brittle crag
check the battlefield v page
solid hinge
any1 wanna play BC2 micd up on pc?
theres been a surge of players up to 750 concurrent because of the sale
stoic estuary
New secret codex entry.
solid hinge
How interesting ! Thanks for sharing.
fringe acorn
What is it under
stoic estuary
You'll have to unlock the weapon first, it's hidden until then. And unlocking it takes a lot of time.
north sparrow
Whyβs the βa beginningβ and βa conflictβ so hard to get, there the last 2 I need to get the colt SAA
Or peacekeeper
woven jolt
it's an easter egg where you can access some underground tunnels and there is gaz behind you
solid hinge
I think I'm gonna pass buying this:
there's no sitting at suburb, in a weird peace hearing the distance battle, all the while knowing it could come crashing down on you at a moments notice. BF3 and on have been just non-stop hectic combat everywhere, no sense of pacing or ebb-and-flow.. something the BF2 trailer nodded to:
https://youtu.be/fQ2c3Yj7Haw?t=138
Yes, the trailer had to sell, and as a whole, it is this all out assault on a single base. But then when it is taken, the assault is over, and if it weren't for the commander asset, it would have been a sweet break in the combat. That base on Daqing Oilfields? It was sometimes a bloody intense 4 squad firefight, other times you could be holding it with nobody coming, but you knew the longer it went after taking it, the harder that wave of enemies was gonna crash down on you. It was the same with Strike at Karkand's Suburb I mentioned earlier - It gave teams critical access to Market and Train, and getting it was sometimes an intense firefight - but it would be a minute or two before the enemy could react - going in alone was a bad idea, so typically a tank or Vodnik/Humvee would be used.
These little self contained matches, these battles - taking bases was always this (with some poor map design exceptions, such as Hotel on said Strike at Karkand). These were what made Battlefield such a lasting and memorable experience. The reward for playing was victory, was collaboration, was succeeding with your friends or even strangers online. Yes, weapon or class or vehicle balance was often broken, but the core gameplay was that the battlefield was not one huge front of players murdering each other, it was a collection of little conflicts, clashes between squads, vehicles coming in to provide critical support when things went south. None of this in a hardcore, ARMA-style play - the emergent arcade experience simply encouraged this kind of play.
Every battle had this story, it wasn't brief 'battlefield' moments, it was fighting for every meter of dirt up the side of Mashtuur City from Hotel to North Gas Station, seeing buddies drop and supporting your squad, always on the lookout for flanking. Getting to the top, having an incredible firefight with one or even two squads, then taking that base and knowing they'd be coming back for it. Having time to regroup, plan a defense and hold it while someone scouted out to either lay traps or just be an early warning. A solid 2-3 minutes of battle to take a base, reviving, spawning, pushing, grinding, and achieving ultimate little victories.
Some of what made this succeed was the 6 man squad: splitting the squad, sending 4 guys head on into an enemy defense, while a squad leader and a medic circle around back to find a safe spot for the leader to sit back and overwatch from was a fundamental strategy everyone naturally came to use. That's how we did Junkyard on jalalabad - usually from market or fountain, we'd scope it out and look for mines, if there were mines and we had humvee, we'd jump the fence, if we had vodnik we'd park it in a corned outside the fence and draw fire, while the main 3 dps, usually a medic a support and antitank, went through the house or around back to the bridge. The vodnik would lookout so the leader and medic could wrap around the main entrace, in case t90/abrams were watching. This was organic, and would happen with randoms, not try hards, it was something people did once they realized having a squad leader alive was worth cooperating for. My friends and I did this specific tactic maybe two or three times. I played map over a hundred times, and I can remember at least as many experiences I had on it. This was just taking a single base. Not even the whole battle, which I could even tell you what we did from there.
I can't remember anything like this from games after BF3.. There are moments - but no experiences, no stories to embellish, nothing I could describe in detail, as if telling a war story from some war long ago. The new battlefield has given me nothing more than a collection of moments that I remember hazily.
BF5 is more of what made BF3 so bad for long time fans: if 1942-2142 were a tide of war, two waves crashing against eachother, or a rising tide trying to engulf a stronghold; BF3-BFV are a swimming pool. No matter where you are in it, you're in the middle of it. The only times you're not in the middle of it is when you're above it (flying) or not in it at all (deployment, or spawn screen). In BF classic, you could choose to be an engineer in a jeep, just blitzing around repairing tanks, or a support jeep resupplying everyone as needed. (medic/engineer/support resupplied repaired and healed with an aura when driving vehicles) - And hated as the player role may have been for ease of exploitation, commanders had assets, and these required engineers and even squads to stay behind the front lines to repair them or protect them. Players that wanted to constantly play at the front could do that too, because up the beach or out at sea, there's a calm - oceans rise because they are pushed from behind, and waves break because they are being pushed back by the slope of the beach. In BF3-BFV you're always at the front line, and the way classes evolved shows that, the level designs show that, the gimmicks show that. The expectation and the design is to simply ALWAYS be in thick of it. And if you're always in the thick of it, what makes one battle more memorable than the other, what reward is there for being creative or even playing for the team?
Calling post BF3 Battlefield a COD Clone, or saying it is becoming CoD has become somewhat of a meme, but when Battlefield 3 was released, the sentiment was brutally honest feedback from players which loved Call of Duty's hectic play, but also Battlefield slow and methodical arcade. I was one of those players - Until Modern Warfare introduced killstreaks, I put as many hours into Call of Duty as I did Battlefield. Modern Warfare was the first Billion dollar launch in the history of games, an industry where just breaking even was common (calculated as future development costs plus development costs), and having a "mere" 200% return on investment was a huge success. Modern Warfare changed all that. EA is owned by investors, and the idea of spending 100-200 Million to make 1.5 Billion was too attractive to pass up - or so we fans like to think. No other reason could have existed to justify the changes made to the core of the game franchise. There were only two major shifts that ocurred between Battlefield 2142 and Battlefield 3. Games started making billions per title, and Battlefield went to console. A third, Battlefield Bad Company, is not really a possible reason as the franchise has had several spinoffs during the classic Battlefield era.
Console audiences demanded deep offline experiences (campaigns) for success - a fact that can be seen by simply looking at the performance of games on console that lack campaigns as opposed to the same on PC. Games like Fortnite, PUBG, Counter Strike, Team Fortress, Quake, Unreal Tournament - and many more - simply could not have achieved Call of Duty level sales - even Battlefield's own attempts floundered until Battlefield Bad Company. Pushing a Campaign into the game was required for two reasons - the Xbox 360 requires that a game be playable offline (if installed with a disk/on a disk), and console players were much more likely to buy a full price title just for the single player campaign. This is the critical reason for console sales far exceeding comparable PC sales, even though the number of PC players dwarfs the number of console players. In order to achieve that Billion dollar franchise, EA had to add a campaign. Remember, this is years ago - the industry has shifted, with consoles now allowing for online play to be required, and console players being much more willing to purchase games that lack a defined single player campaign.
In adding a Campaign, DICE had to effectively split development - something they had partly avoided doing for Bad Company 2, where levels used in the Single Player were frequently repurposed for the Multiplayer. Battlefield 3's single player is in many ways a compeltely different game to the multiplayer - with vehicles, assets and even engineering technologies being used that are simply unnavailable in the multiplayer release. Some of these were concessions made in order to make Battlefields single player as good looking as possible, while also pushing the hardware to the limit just to get the multiplayer running on the Xbox 360. This is where the biggest pitfall would happen - Consoles require certification for release, consoles are inexpensive to procure, both the campaign and the multiplayer are very large and require lots of eyes on them to catch bugs. The result of all this is majority testing and feedback and data, pre-release, came from console testing.
How do I make this claim?
As we all know, Xbox 360 and PS3 have analog input, they have fewer buttons. Most importantly, they could only run 32 players at a time. On PC, picking up a kit was bound to its own key in all games leading up to BC2. The console lacks the number of buttons, so kit swap, something used very frequently in Battlefield, switched from being its own button, to "Hold Reload to Swap". This is a surface tip - we could even call it a coincidence. Dig deeper: Vehicles in BF3 and BF4 react very poorly to binary input, this can be seen best with the Jetskis in BF4, but also Jets and Helicopters in BF3 lacked certain features, certain types of braking and acceleration types which were mapped to the extremes of the analog sticks or triggers, these could be mapped on PC using the config file, but were simply missing in the menus - one of which was the ability to decelrate hard, or air brake. Another area where this could be seen was in infantry movement itself. There was a sluggishness and jankiness to swithing angles (pressing strafe and back or forward), which was even visible in other vehicles but most pronounced in infantry. A game with a special animation engine marketed as being the great next thing was delivering a second-rate movement experience on PC - specifically, when using binary input. Battlefield 3 deleting the weapon wheel preview would be another place where this change is clear.
All of these are little things that point to a console first, PC second feedback loop. Testers and play testers were spending most of their times behind analog controls. The two most critical problems the franchise faces stem from that.
Battlefield 3 and 4 level design and weapon balance is console centric. 3D spotting broke Battlefield 3 and 4 on PC.
3D spotting has a place in the console world - Battlefield has large environments, TVs are often poorly configured, low resolution or simply unable to show enough detail in darker rendered environments to make enemies sufficiently visible - Analog sticks are relatively unwieldy so hitting a 3D spotted target, while possibly easy for some of the best, is a challenge for most, unless that target is close enough for aim assist, at which point 3D spotting makes very little difference as the enemy is right on top of the player. On PC, however, tracking and clicking on the little doritos is child's play, the mouse is an incredibly intuitive and accurate pointing device. Open levels on PC, those with helicopters and jets especially, were deathtraps for infantry on PC, forcing most players to play the engineer role to simply get back at the enemy for dying 4 or 5 times from a mile away. Being spotted also meant that if an enemy could see you, they could also shoot at you, and on PC that usually means they will hit you, immediately. This sort of issue is genuinely game breaking, and can turn even the biggest maps into meat grinders for infantry deaths (Alborz Mountains).
Where there was some salvation from 3D spotting there was another problem. Level design on infantry focused maps in BF3 and to a smaller extent in BF4, were designed to allow console corner peeking, and worse yet, were designed for 32 players on console. Console corridor play is very different to PC corridor play. A hallway in a console game is difficult not when a target is far from the center of the screen, but when the target is far from the player character. On PC it is the exact opposite, a target at the end of a mile long hallway would be as hard to hit as a target at 25 feet (assuming the bullet can hit at the same time for both distances - the point being PC doesn't, as above mentioned, rely on aim assist). On PC, the traditional approach to hallway, or close quarter combat, is to require the player to have turn to find or search for targets: a wide room room that isn't very deep is far more dangerous to the player than the same room on console, as the console player can snap with aim assist. Grand Bazaar examplifies this issue. All primary combat areas on this map are long narrow channels, rather than wide fields of view with ample cover. Similarly, Caspian Border's central flag on the hill could see directly into several other bases. While on console this is largely a non issue given the lack of aim assist at longer ranges (making the addition of suppression a good way to slow the action down and make it more intense, while also rewarding players for putting bullets down range, you know, let them have fun) - on PC, this kind of access (in addition to 3D spotting) made spawn camping and random deaths a very common isssue.
Tracking targets is difficult on console, especially at a distance, and that's ok, Halo has some of the best combat in FPS ever, and it would be miserable (well, it is miserable) on PC, except when the maps are designed from the ground up for PC.
The second aspect I mentioned is weapon balance - Battlefield 3 was abysmal for this, and most of the outcry came from PC players, as well as console players who had the misfortune of facing of with an analog stick god. Guns like the USAS 12 FRAG, or the 40mm slug - these were largely non issues for console, at least when compared to the total game breaking balance they had on PC. Sniping with 40mm and the frag was easy, landing all shots was easy - weapons that either aimed to add crowd control or provide very accurate aim with a very accurate weapon were simply completely broken for the PC audience - again, because the bulk of the pre-release development test audience was on analog sticks.
Making the best possible console version of Battlefield meant dealing major damage to the core of the game - Battlefield 2 would have been miserable on console, it was far too big for console aiming systems and was balanced for players with pin-point accuracy through inordinate amounts of random bullet spread to artificially manage DPS. While RBS is common on console, too, most games will switch to a kind of magnetism when close enough and aiming close enough to the target - hits are guaranteed, for example, when using BR/DMR/Carbine/etc in Halo when the reticle turns red. This works really well there, incredibly well, but is completely broken when done the same way on PC. In chasing after Console crowds by adding the campaign, and everything it entailed in terms of QA time needed, DICE shifted critical game testing resources away from PC - all in an effort to appease the shareholders who saw major dollar signs in EA's most popular first person shooter.
DICE made Battlefield 3 more like Call of Duty not because of their greed, and maybe not even intentionally, but in their effort to make the best Console Battlefield, they fundamentally altered the PC formula. Battlefield Bad Company was everything Battlefield could be with the hardware resources they had to work with - and it is unabashedly good. It had issues, but resolving them, and expanding the experience would have made a better console Battlefield than Battlefield 3 was, and Battlefield 3 should have simply chosen to stay true to its PC roots and hack in a single player experience to fit into the market demands for console. A swiss army knife has it all, sure, but it doesn't really do any of it very well.
tldr: classic battlefield was better at being a player driven battlefield with much more dynamic flows and playstyles. Yes, they had LOTS of issues, and things like gunplay were atrocious. BUT: Battlefield stood apart by offering a sandbox experience that let all players be in control of how they played - something that was even reflected in Mod tools, private servers and local game hosting.(edited)
inb4 strike at karkand grenade spam fest - like i said, the games were far from perfect, but they were also a distinct franchise which rewarded some planning and creativity greatly, while it punished mindlessness without skill harshly.
some of the best fun I had in BF2, for example, was driving my brothers around from base to base on kubra dam, just to cap and ditch... usually after a rough grind on some other map... because that was an option, to just shoot the shit and sometimes shoot the enemy.
next jungle
wtf lmao
solid hinge
it was 30 minutes k?
and i realized i went on a tangent.
tldr is basically the conclusion i guess
fathom pebble
solid hinge
lol
Beautiful
pastebin.com is your friend
lol
i have it elsewhere, nobody does pastebin or like, what's the other
haughty pivot
solid hinge
Wow
I come back
And all I see
Is 1 hour of chapter after chapet.
Chapter*
So I have been on the Peacekeeper
You must have all phantom dogtags other wise you die on 10th floor
I tested this.
With a group.
violet locust
That wall of text tho
verbal shadow
it,s such a long body of e=text that i originally thought it was a copypasta
violet locust
Lol
solid hinge
vapid moss
Anybody know how to decode the phantom message on Albion? I'm trying to get the easter egg.
wary mason
Hi @vapid moss warmly recommend visiting discord.gg/bfee for anything easter egg related π
simple sphinx
is it random pick for bfV alpha
solid hinge
specifically how map development works
fathom pebble
So for those who have unlocked the peacekeeper
there's 3 rewards with it in total
2 codexes and 1 dogtag
1 codex is simple -> 10 kills with peacekeeper
2nd hidden codex -> 25 headshots with peacekeeper
100 kills awards a black and silver dogtag with the number of kills with it
thorn heart
just going to piggyback off that and confirm you MUST complete all previous EEs to unlock the peacekeeper otherwise you WILL die to the screaming monster
thorn heart
yep yep
tbh this is more rewarding than a fucking bow that took your primary slot
and its more powerful so worth for sure
indigo tusk
turns out i didn't realize i had a bunch of Battlepacks unopen
bold bramble
How does the sniper work? Does the bullet disappear at a certain range?
solid hinge
No, bullets have drop, you just need to aim higher to hit longer ranges
topaz dome
or adjust your sights range, or both 
civic whale
not that significant unless you aim for like 400m away
last violet
Is there a discord server for bfv closed alpha bug feedback?
rose pilot
Submit your Closed Alpha feedback
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/battlefield-v-closed-alpha-feedback-section
Report a bug with the Battlefield V Alpha
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/battlefield-v-alpha-bug-reports-en
bold bramble
Are there desync problems or am I just bad?
topaz wadi
There will be some server performance issues yea that be expected though
small perch
yeah but it's 99% operation locker only
where flanking the admin's team will get you banned
lofty tree
Wut
small perch
operation locker is what you would call a "meat grinder map". It's effectively a map about spamming explosives at choke points
most of the surviving BF4 servers run that map 24/7 and the admins can be pretty toxic
lofty tree
Ohh fun
vagrant minnow
anyone wanna play some BF4?
gray glade
i never understood the joy people get out of those choke point spam maps
lofty tree
Yes. When my download on capped I ternwt decides to finish y download in like 10 h
solid hinge
Is there a set time for when the stream starts? π @wary mason
solid hinge
OkΓ©
opaque laurel
Is it still possible to get a closed alpha key?
stone socket
yes
celest cargo
Kinda wish the peacekeepr codex entry had a section with a bit of backstory to your soldier. And the original owner.
cedar yoke
iron heron
who wants to squad up
lusty raven
where tf my alpha code????
torpid prawn
I tried ot goin BFEE but it doesnt let me type
I verified my phone and it just resets and keeps telling me to put my phone in again
gilded sleet
hello
forest sand
Hi 
wispy grove
miau
gilded sleet
C;
twilit aurora
summer furnace
hey everyone i'm new here π
and i had a question, what's the difference between #battlefield-legacy-titles and #448810521953566720
gray glade
#448810521953566720 is only for the upcoming battlefield
#battlefield-legacy-titles is for the others
summer furnace
oh okie thanks : )
i'm going to be playing my first Battlefield soon, which is bf hardline on ps4
gray glade
i wasnt aware people still played that tbh
i thought most hardliners moved on to BF1 or something
wooden hare
Try the BFEE server
solid hinge
no help there
wooden hare
If they canβt help you, I donβt know who can
solid hinge
dice
wooden hare
Good joke m8
fathom pebble
@solid hinge afaik the beggining help channel has active people helping on BFEE
I edited the message
solid hinge
ok
fathom pebble
the help channels should be below if you scroll down on the channel list π
solid hinge
Wait no
No one helps me there
The emblem thing isnt showing where it is supposed to show
its not showing there
wooden hare
@solid hinge you have it?
topaz wadi
Not yet
bold bramble
I dunno, feels like the game is meh
If you liked all old BFs ill guess you are gonna be ok with this one.
inland flower
mfw when new lmg has two mags shaped like v for battlefield v
solid hinge
I got a full squad stuck here because they cant find the emblem thing on the wall lmao
fix
topaz wadi
lol
ivory scaffold
I need to do all the easter eggs. I attempted to do the Albion easter egg, but accidentally destroyed the wrong lanterns and blew up a house on accident.
Heck, I went far enough to attempt decoding morse code too on my own.
wooden hare
Iβm planning on getting the peacekeeper before the release of the next game
sonic delta
What are your thoughts on shock operations?
swift plank
gay
gray glade
I think its nice to play operations on other maps tbh
but i can understand why dice werent so quick to make operations on them, some of them are kind of weird to play operations on TBH
ivory scaffold
Iβm disappointed they did not put in the bolt action fire mode for the M1903 experimental.
Funny story is the Pedersen device was designed for not just that particular rifle, but also the Lebel, Lee Enfield, and even the Mosin-Nagant. Those donβt exist anymore, and the last surviving technical manuals were destroyed without any consideration of how historically valuable they were.
It really is lost technology now.
sonic delta
I kinda think shock operations are 1 sided
solid hinge
ikr
lofty valley
I thought every gamemode was 1 sided
ivory scaffold
I wonder if any pilots are complaining about the Burton LMR now that it is out. Incendiary rounds cripple the parts nicely enough, some just panic bail. Then I switch to regular rounds.
Also I actually found out shooting pilots who bail from damaged aircraft is actually a war crime.
sinful heart
anyone have a code
ivory scaffold
I donβt.
wooden hare
War crime in ww1?
ivory scaffold
Not exactly sure. It is one nowadays.
I guess it was not a war crime since planes just became a thing in the great war.
I do wonder what people think of the burton LMR being able to shred up aircraft parts with ease.
wooden hare
Havenβt unlocked it yet
But Iβve used it
Very good weapon
But if youβre taking damage from a burton, then youβre flying way too low
Or does it have a high range?
ivory scaffold
I use the 1895 trench as recon since I actually hate camping.
wooden hare
Why not use a marksman
ivory scaffold
I hate going in without an idea of where threats are.
Also, spotting flares make it a tad easier.
Since no one ever spots these days.
wooden hare
Martini Henry?
ivory scaffold
Use it infrequently. Sweet spot is pretty small though, leading it to be a skill weapon. It is rewarding though, but since the nerf...
Plus I prefer using the less common choices.
ivory scaffold
Also, it makes planting tripmines way easier. π
Since you are not restricted to camping in one spot.
Allowing for ambushes. I used this tactic to stall a whole squad when one guy ran in for his team. I caught them off guard and wiped the whole squad with ease since they were distracted trying to find a way around my trap.
Did I just kill chat?
Or did I somehow find refuge in audacity?
gray glade
someone always has to make the last comment before silence
wooden hare
@ivory scaffold nah I went offline
I use the martini Henry + Bodeo 1889
If I donβt kill them with the first shot, then Iβll kill them with the second shot
Other than the spotting flare, I donβt use the other gadgets much outside of challenges or requirements to unlock weapons
devout wolf
im proud of this https://youtu.be/gTU8Jiz2fZc
spice bane
The scouting flare is so good in bf1. Even using it to block off doorways works decently well
violet locust
Finally π
patent bobcat
I believe I'm the first person to have uploaded getting killed by my own dud club?
ivory scaffold
I have no idea if the dud club actually has a chance of exploding.
But one occurrence is not enough to see if the myth is true.
zenith spruce
Is the Peacekeeper in the main game?
patent bobcat
I dont see how It could be anything else, and yes peacekeeper is in the main game
patent bobcat
In the game already
zenith spruce
oh
lofty valley
I rather have 40 rounds to kill people instead of randomly shooting at a plane with no bipod
patent bobcat
π
ivory scaffold
Not sure how a dud club exploded like that. I thought that was a myth.
Probably is.
patent bobcat
Maybe it was added in the June patch? Ive been using the dud club since it came out and it never happened until now
ivory scaffold
I also want to get people together on xbox with the purpose of using Burton LMRs to shoot down planes. A squad of three people with Burtons, a medic and a scout.
topaz wadi
Did the 2nd wave ever get sent out?
wet blade
Is there still a decent amount of people that play BF1 on pc? I have origin access and I'm thinking about downloading it.
violet locust
Yeah there is
slate zephyr
Yea i play it allot still
twin raven
solid hinge
Only the omen
And belly
And angel
I only need 2 more.
The Conflict
And The Beginning
solid hinge
@wooden hare The new dogtags from the June Patch
Check them out online
#general @wooden hare
vestal swift
Yo i tried the BFEE discord but its read only for some reason, can anyone help with the morse code on albion please?
solid hinge
Wait 10 minutes
solid hinge
Idk
teal veldt
@pearl lodge having the same problem
pearl lodge
Killing my xp while I'm boosting and have a good game. @teal veldt
teal veldt
@pearl lodge noice π
solid hinge
ivory scaffold
It seems my easter egg question on the easter egg server has gone unnoticed and Iβm losing my mind.
teal veldt
@pearl lodge π
fading brook
Guys, if you had the chance, which BFV map would you guys like to play in the most?
neon plume
Wow
I got quite a few lucky kills
With a flare spot
Yeah that's right
With a flare
I have no idea how a flare kills an enemy
I got 4 kills i think with one flare spot
Too bad I didn't record it
It's in my stats though , most used gaget , flare gun 3kills
neon plume
Well I didn't know I could get a flare kill (multikill)
It was very random
I am lucky π
ivory scaffold
And yet the easter egg server has left me in the dark again.
swift plank
flare has flames and can burn u if ur an imbecile
solid hinge
Nade -> Flare -> Kill survivors with infantry sniper
instant 5-10 kill streak on Fort Vaux
π
fathom grail
okay this is better
fathom grail
oof
fathom grail
HA YES GOT THE BEHEMOTH KILL
solid hinge
OOF
fathom grail
SUCK ON THAT ASSAULT PLAYER
fathom grail
?
solid hinge
once I died from a medic in a behemoth
fathom grail
oof
solid hinge
Assault players aren't even needed
Xd
Unless they are smart
Did u know 80% assault players on console is just spray and pray
true story
fathom grail
oof
i've done that a couple times
almost had an assault player destroy my tank just then
bastard knows how to measure range and drop
fathom grail
ps4
fathom grail
oof
solid hinge
Big oof
fathom grail
too poor for a pc
fathom grail
gravitated towards ps4
solid hinge
Wait what u think of shock operations
fathom grail
havent been able to play it
fathom grail
servers are about as full as an aussies petrol tank
fathom grail
whats the difference?
fathom grail
between the two mode
solid hinge
operations normally is fast depending on attack
With intense battle of 64
But in shock
Its 30 players with very big maps
Same idea but way way way too slow
And less fucking in the map
fathom grail
fathom grail
only good battle was river somme
solid hinge
Yup
fathom grail
brb
solid hinge
Operations usually end up being completed due to time limit for me
so 40 min games
That's annoying af
north summit
anyone want to party up for bf1
fading brook
I'm gonna' attempt to start a conversation with anyone whose willing to respond
What part/front of WWII do you want to play in BFV the most?
Mine would probably be Normandy, or anywhere in Eastern Europe.
stoic estuary
Japan/Korea 
gray glade
france i think
fading brook
Really @stoic estuary Why?
@gray glade France is an obvious choice. Still there are a lot of battles that would be amazing in BFV. Which one would you wanna play?
carmine heart
YES pacific war is a great topic in WW2~
also I havememories of Medal of Honor Pacific assult
good game
fading brook
Oh, yeah...! Completely forgot about that game.
carmine heart
It was a great game, with a lot of good scenarios/possibilites to explor
fading brook
I played it for a bit at a friend's place, but haven't bought it and finished myself.
Actually, that would be a great region to focus on. The majority of films and games focused on the europe front. I think only MOH and Call of Duty: WaW really focused on the Pacific theatre. At least, they're the only ones that come to mind.
rose pilot
I would play anything that isn't a Saving Private Ryan simulator
fading brook
So, staying away from France...
I'm kidding. Although, I'm pretty certain that there will be a war story about Svaing Private Ryan
I mean it's right there, and they'll probably add it as an "Homage"
I think a good war story involving France and the french region would be a stealth, rebelious, uprising type theme.
fading brook
Is there a way to get access to Battlefield V Closed Alpha, or is it a random selection type thing.
stoic estuary
It's a random selection. But they're giving away many keys through giveaways or via Twitch streams. Content Creators as an example.
Don't contact anyone or buy them. Try getting a chance via Twitter or Twitch π
fading brook
@stoic estuary Sure will do. It's just quite a far fetched chance of me getting one. Most content creators have millions of viewers.
fading brook
We doin' alright.
remote lotus
π
solid hinge
Any clue that DICE could put the last summer dogtags again?
digital crescent
Where can I report bugs?
carmine heart
I thinks is pinned in #448810521953566720
digital crescent
Ok thanks π
lusty raven
are there EA employees in here
pulsar valve
no
hybrid stirrup
My battlefield 1 isn't working
brisk rose
there are EA/DICE employees in here but theres been issues with people DM them about alpha codes and such there's a notice in the rules section. Also the rules state not to @ someone you dont know into a chat. @lusty raven
hybrid stirrup
BF1 PS4 anyone
oak brook
wtf is wrong with the developers of this game... silencing the fanbase about their problems
brisk rose
nobody silences anyone theres threads on all different outlets there plenty of EA and DICE employees who answer questions
maiden steppe
play BF4 after a while
everybody talks about how great the guns feel
seems true for everything except the belt-fed LMGs
maiden steppe
they feel like poopoo because the moment you side-step, all accuracy goes out the window
DMRs, ARs, mag-fed LMGs don't suffer from this
so i mostly used the L86 LSW with support
neat scaffold
Some SMGs do but they are best for close quarters anyways however I cant say anything because I have absolute shit connection so its hard to say whether or not I died by a shit gun I used or Lag
...
maiden steppe
yeah the PDWs, shotguns, carbines, all of those feel great
neat scaffold
The most stable gun of all time I found for BF4 is the last carbine u get by unlocking thru the Carbine XP
maiden steppe
i'm just kinda sad that the support seems to be neutered in this particular Battlefield
neat scaffold
They are the same in BF1 as well tbh except for the premium weapons
maiden steppe
suppression doing nothing, belt-fed LMGs having bad accuracy even when tapping/bursting (which makes zero sense when their barrels are longer than other automatic rifles), ammo resupplying very slowing, many gadgets being niche
neat scaffold
Well the gadgets i actually like... some of them
maiden steppe
at least LMGs have negative spread in BF1, but ever since their max spread changes came, you have to ADS completely before you start firing them
otherwise they will start feeling like BF4's LMGs
neat scaffold
ADS?
maiden steppe
ADS stands for Aim Down Sight, your "zoom" button, right-click.
maiden steppe
ah, it's a pretty universal term across modern shooters
except maybe counterstrike
neat scaffold
Well I thought that was like a button combo is what I meant lol
maiden steppe
ye, i haven't played shooters on console in LOOONG TIME
maiden steppe
I was defo thinking of getting a PS4 because of all of its sweet exclusives
and a Switch
neat scaffold
Honestly exclusives mean nothing to me
I would play on any platform if I had it
I do have a laptop however... its being slow and dumb right now
maiden steppe
hideo kojima's developers have always been working to deploy on Playstation
so i'll be picking up a PS4 for the upcoming Death Stranding, as well as The Last of Us 2, perhaps playing God of War
neat scaffold
Eh I would if I had a playstation but right now im just fine with Xbox
Due to my slow acting laptop atm
maiden steppe
probably just an aged laptop?
neat scaffold
Idk why and honestly been working overtime at my factory job soooo im kinda to tired to mess with it atm
And it has a shit graphics card of 5500
Internal
So it most likely wont be able to run the new battlefield V
maiden steppe
holy shit THAT'S why it's having issues
if you're gonna get a laptop for gaming then you should make sure that it has some dedicated GPU
solid hinge
Why is the driver of the train/dreadnought/airship always such a retard
maiden steppe
i've been gaming on a laptop for all of my college years until I moved back home for the job search, and built a desktop PC
neat scaffold
Haha I only had it for the first semester of college I took before realizing I needed more money in the bank to continue and after first semester I went job hunting
maiden steppe
GTX 960M could take on PUBG at average 50 FPS, and it should be much better now that people are claiming to get 90 frames on a GTX 1060
neat scaffold
And @solid hinge its because he is a blue berry
maiden steppe
driving a behemoth can be pretty stressful
neat scaffold
Not if u know where to go
maiden steppe
everyone wants you to push forward but it'll get instakilled if you do
neat scaffold
If ur guys with u dont know where to aim
It has guns
People just need teamwork with the behemoths
maiden steppe
yeah... if I can't do mic communications with friends then there's no way that I'm gonna make a behemoth effective lol
luckily the behemoth is going away in BFV so we don't gotta worry about that anymore
neat scaffold
And Teamwork goes for all ground and air vehicles too as in if one should be all a ground vehicle then obviously use em as its supposed to be and for Air STOP USING Attack planes to kill one guy with machine guns on the ground
Man thats annoying
maiden steppe
i don't expect teamwork out of random matchmaking in 32v32 servers anymore
neat scaffold
Same
maiden steppe
it's already difficult to do this with random players 5v5 or 6v6 games
neat scaffold
Yah I know I hope BFV fixes some of this
Like they say
And upgrade the map to a larger scale so u dont get across the map pilot sniped by flak
maiden steppe
after playing Overwatch and quitting, I don't think they should force players to utilize teamwork to win
it should be something that makes good players even better when they coordinate
neat scaffold
Well not force it but imply it
maiden steppe
when a bunch of random players of varying skill are put together and expected to work together tightly
that just causes a boatload of toxicity from what I've seen in Overwatch
neat scaffold
I can see that but sometimes when ur in an operations with an only a tank as the vehicle and that bastard is sitting on the spawn (yes our team mate in that tank) and trying to snipe when he cant therefore causing us to loose the objectives kinda annoyed me tbh hence why I dont do operations other than the fact they are just too long
Thats just me
About the length part
I mean Bf1 isnt a bad game however... its just the lack of assistance that makes the game somewhat tedious
From ur team mates is all
gray glade
yeah the artillery trucks taking up an entire vehicle spot is a real issue for BF1 operations tbh
some people claim "hey i help, i got a k/d ratio of 50!", but they forget that defenders have infinite spawns
neat scaffold
Eh I just hate those who use a tank as a cover vehicle to try and kill from across the map and i wasnt speaking of the trucks tho I do agree with u however I was speaking of the insane AA range
On the smaller map for how many they have in it
gray glade
i think that its also an issue ppl forget that tanks arent just for destroying enemy tanks or getting alot of kills. They are immune to gunfire and ppl can spawn on them as long as its not a light tank
neat scaffold
Yah
That and light tanks are kinda useless since they dont have anything to support itself on the battlefield as far as gun support plus most just use it as a leroy jenkins vehicle is all its gud for in BF1
Tbh
gray glade
because that map is horrible for tanks
neat scaffold
I just see snipers mainly on that map
young crest
how is frontlines supposed to be played?
neat scaffold
Advance, Teamwork, Advance
And then followed again by Teamwork
I dont usually play frontlines tbh
young crest
Im a bit burned out on conquest especially since i see the same players all the time and when you get lopsided match its no fun
neat scaffold
Unless i feel like I want to go thru a quick conquest match
And honestly some games just feel one sided
Just like how operations does to me
Where as if ur in a team that starts off loosing it would be very difficult to recover almost
young crest
yea on Operations its the worst
before BFV im looking for a game to fill in that good BF itch
neat scaffold
I have War Thunder on xbox
Thats decent enough for me since I always like flying
I would play war thunder on my laptop but its screwing up on me
Iβll warn u tho
If u have console u best check and assign button controls before playing
Otherwise Uβll be left wondering dafuq
young crest
I have an Xbox but don't play it anymore since Im just pure trash
at anything not fifa on controller
neat scaffold
Haha im not a pro either I just play for fun and sometimes mess around more than I should now days
Lol then again Iβve always been that way
I like games with big maps and more things to do
edgy elk
Are there still coming updates to Battlefield 4?
young crest
Ive always been competitive. Never the super rage kind but I get internal rage when I die
solid hinge
I just beat my personal record with Infantry Sniper! π
26 kills!!
(I know it might not seem like a lot, but to me it is π )
neat scaffold
That would be considered a lot to me
young crest
yea these days thats alot since scout is weaker class now
neat scaffold
One day me and a friend actually had a hay day getting 32/16 on a conquest for turning tides DLC that day will never happen again most likely since I usually suck at sniping
young crest
apart from vehicles, medic is the most busted class there is
dont know why its so underrated
neat scaffold
Hell I generally used snipers as dmrs because for long range im well thinking Hope it hits pulls the trigger what? A miss again? Oh well
young crest
I liked using those in BF4 ,even though they were not as good as other weapons
neat scaffold
It should not be nerfed tho
Because thats the main gud gun for Medic
They need to be useful somehow
young crest
most players use m1907 sweeper or automat
neat scaffold
I sometimes use the Farquevar
young crest
on PC I rarely see rsc or seblestader1916 marksman which are insane guns
neat scaffold
I know lol on xbox I use the RSC when I just say fuck it im not getting as many kills with the other weapons
Lol
young crest
lol, but its so satisfying
neat scaffold
I know haha
Tho the last gun for the assault class (premium) is fuckin awesome for close quarters
Way worth unlocking
young crest
which one is that?
neat scaffold
Annihilator Trench
young crest
oh yea that thing is nuts
neat scaffold
It is
solid hinge
I think I need a bit lower sens
neat scaffold
And the RSC SMG is pretty cool too
young crest
@solid hinge PC or console
solid hinge
PC ofc
young crest
rsc smg is one of the harder assault guns to play with
neat scaffold
Ah man am I gonna be one of the few on xbox in a server again?
But the RSC SMG does do the decent 2 shot damage if ur accurate
young crest
Honestly I dont know how I found my perfect sens for mouse
solid hinge
I'm playing at 10% right now I think
young crest
@neat scaffold im dumb I thought it was 3 shot
young crest
I used the profile config file to edit my sens to my exact sens from CSGO/OW
neat scaffold
It can be a 3 shot
young crest
i forgot how I converted it probably mouse-sens website
solid hinge
Ye I know what you're talking about
young crest
But it has limited ammo and assault is all about mulitikills
neat scaffold
Yah true u have to be close with that SMG
The the first match I unlocked it in (conquest amiens) I got literally 5-6 kills in a row without dying and was like woah this gun aint half bad
Lol
young crest
i gotta try out all the guns before I end my BF1 playing
neat scaffold
Haha yah i unlocked all but the ROSS Snipers for BF1 and almost All except for a few premium for assault and same goes for medic and as for assault all except for the hellriegal defensive
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Thats the main thing I did for BF1 since I had nothing else to do and same
I hated the hellriegel tbh
Its just tedious to use when getting 300 kills with a gun that just sometimes feels nerfed
gray glade
the ross bolt action is really great tbh
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yea that gun and the automatico were kings but now the annihilator and SMG 08 are DICE's poster boys
gray glade
almost too good
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The ROSS is a new gun I thought
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I dont play assault since I feel their guns are too limited
with medic you can boss at everyrange
autorelver is no joke
gray glade
yep, the ross is pretty new, like a few months maybe?
the only reason i find it too good is because it's basically got a straight pull bolt, so no need to "un-scope" between shots
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I should try it out
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WHICH RSC?
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thats not a noob weapon, i hope 
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that title goes to prone bipod LMG 08's and suppressive variants
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Oh god
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across the map sprays that kill you are 
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I hate that last LMG that u unlock thru premium because I just get constantly one shotted by it
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are those preorder only weapons
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No
solid hinge
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Premium
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It is?
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I did pre order BF1 but I thought that was a Premium only
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pre order BFV
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I actually never thought of using that federov
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Go there
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the fedorov is nice
i always change it to single fire and just tapfire like a madman tho
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Lol
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but why tho
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It's more ammo efficient and fun
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and more finger pain
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Nah