#battlefield-legacy-titles

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solid hinge
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or am I just ignorant?

merry ivy
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Eeeh

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Here’s the thing about that

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When you get into close quarters, you’re putting yourself at the highest vulnerability that any elite class can be in

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Close quarters will get you instant killed by melee a lot

fathom pebble
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well the trench raider is the most accurate elite class

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the trench raider and the flametrooper

merry ivy
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The next Battlefield game should be the emu war

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They can reuse the Lewis Gun asset

solid hinge
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I want to see Flametroopers on Guadalcanal

merry ivy
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I want to do a Japanese island hopping Operation

fathom pebble
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this is gonna be the same circle jerk if the next bf is actually ww2

merry ivy
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And how about we do Gold, Juno or Sword beach for once?!?!?!

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Tired of the Americans

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Britain and Canada did stuff too

solid hinge
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Wouldn't mind a German perspective of Normandy either

merry ivy
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Well if it’s multiplayer then that’s a given

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64p frostbite engine beach landing

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ooooooooooh boy

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It makes me hard just thinking about it

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With stationary MG42 and MG34 emplacements

fathom pebble
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Iam gonna kepp my opinion very close or almost none about the next bf

merry ivy
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The Thompson SMG is in the CTE now

fathom pebble
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I mean

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it was more popular opinion

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and the community was heavly asking

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because its an infamous gun

merry ivy
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It’s logical succession from WW1 to WW2

wraith berry
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its legit impossible to win brusilov as the russians lmfao

fathom pebble
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and was made for ww1 inicially

wraith berry
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galicia is so defender biased

merry ivy
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There is a Mosin from 1938 in the files

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WHY WOULD THAT

fathom pebble
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the ww1 thompson and ww2 thompson are rly different

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but yes the mosin m38 is the one that doesnt make sence at all being in bf1

merry ivy
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tell me why they would add a 1938 carbine Mosin in a WW1 game if they weren’t hinting at WW2

fathom pebble
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the same way they put the char 2c

merry ivy
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but that's not my point

fathom pebble
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the char 2c was made in 1929

merry ivy
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they added Char 2C to have a tank behemoth

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but why a carbine Mosin?

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It's not even that unique

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it doesn't add much to gameplay

fathom pebble
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I mean Iam not saying the opposite

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but yes DICE has done that before

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adding a gun out of sence to its of the game

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like in hardline

merry ivy
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the thing is

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the Mosin in the CTE files is the same one that the Russians used a lot in WW2

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so why would they be adding an iconic weapon that would be a statistical clone of an already existing gun?

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If I had to guess I would say because it's an iconic WW2 weapon

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not because they want to add a Carbine mosin that badly

fathom pebble
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idk, but yes very strange adding a 1938 weapon mostly a weapon used by the USSR in ww2

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the thompson makes sence

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its a ww1 weapon

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the annihalator and the 1919 variants

merry ivy
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Yes I am fine with the Thompson

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but the 1938 Mosin seems awfully interesting

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because that addition serves literally only 1 purpose

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and that's to make a reference to that time period

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Or maybe it's because they watched this video

wraith berry
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howell automatic is such a good gun

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bipod for a medic rifle? fuck yeah

merry ivy
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yeah

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its the highest capacity for a bipoded medic rifle by far

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I'd rather use the Farquhar Hill Optical in most cases though, just for the significantly reduced spread increase per shot

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but the Howell variants are fun too

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Optical variants are some of the strongest medic rifles because their spread increase per shot is so low

wraith berry
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Yeah, but ads while moving is shit to compensate

whole rivet
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I simply dislike optics as a whole

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iron sights ftw

ashen compass
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Max ticket locker

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New server

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Name is

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Max ticket locker

solid hinge
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is it worth playing BF4 multilayer in 2018

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was allready not worth playing bf4 in 2017

severe wraith
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Plenty of people still on bf4 @solid hinge

solid hinge
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yeah but my problem is that I've never played bf4 , only Bf1 and 3 . Is it worth buying the game only for the story. Dont ask me why.😐

severe wraith
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Idk do you like single player games?

solid hinge
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Yeah, I prefer more single player, but not for all games. Battlefield is good game for both (single player and multi) . Not all games can be made good in both. The thing is that in BF4 multilayer people say every thing is like war thunder or world of tanks these days. I mean not like in bf1 60 people on foot and other 4 in plane or tank. Feels like BF4 is dying.

wooden hare
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Tbh I think that Battlefield Hardline had a way better campaign than bf4

solid hinge
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personal preference

lofty valley
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Bf hardline was the only good bf

wooden hare
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Eh

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The multiplayer is not as good as the newer games

wooden hare
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Anyone think the SMG 08/18 needs a nerf?

solid hinge
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Nope

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Be ut the recoil is fucking ridiculous

bitter orbit
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what can you do to fight hackers?

solid hinge
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beat them

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or make em mad

violet locust
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report em

solid hinge
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or that

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LOL

bitter orbit
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@violet locust how to

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where to

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@solid hinge lol i would have done that

solid hinge
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i forgot whats it called

bitter orbit
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if i could

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bf4db?

solid hinge
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i think so

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i forgot

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ugh

violet locust
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No, report them in Origin

solid hinge
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stupid brain woahmad

bitter orbit
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because im seeing so many bf4db announcements in the server

violet locust
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Or if you're on console, open a ticket with EA Help

bitter orbit
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oh okay

solid hinge
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once i seen a dude fling

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flying*

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like not in a plane

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my fav battlefield is bf4 what is yours

bitter orbit
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???

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bf4

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also bf3

solid hinge
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nothing will ever beat bf3 <3

bitter orbit
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too many vehicles in bf4...

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and im a terrible pilot

solid hinge
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dont feel bad i am 2

bitter orbit
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xD

solid hinge
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once i ran into a wall that wasnt even there

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i think i still have the clip

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let me see

bitter orbit
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...

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lol

solid hinge
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cant find it

bitter orbit
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is @ staff ea staff or discord admin?

solid hinge
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thats a good question

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becaue

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this is all i see

bitter orbit
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???

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oh nvm

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ea staff is @ dice/ea

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@solid hinge reinstall your discord

solid hinge
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fixed

bitter orbit
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??

violet locust
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lol

solid hinge
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i love discord

bitter orbit
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gj

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me2

solid hinge
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wait hold up

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when did i become discord hypesquad

green prism
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!voteban @fathom flax

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who's up for bf4?

bitter orbit
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?

violet locust
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vote ban, lol

solid hinge
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If only

bitter orbit
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wait you can voteban in discord?

violet locust
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No

merry ivy
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my idea of relaxing is fighting the nasty jerries for king and country with my lads

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2x extra KDR if done while drinking tea and eating english muffins

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4x extra KD if you spout British war propaganda in chat and use proper lingo

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It’s a proven fact

solid hinge
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lol

quiet quarry
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god i hate fao fortress

wooden hare
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My idea of relaxing is fighting the amateur brits for the Kaiser and our homeland

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2x extra KDR if fighting near the Maginot Line

quiet quarry
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worse than giant's shadow, and that's saying something

wooden hare
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4x Extra KDR if done while spouting German curse words until incoherency

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8x extra points if you headshot @merry ivy and t-bag his dead body

solid hinge
wooden hare
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Who?

solid hinge
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thats ez 2 do

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...

wooden hare
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You are right

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British soldiers are as mobile as scarecrows

solid hinge
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Wow

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We just whopped KaiserWilhelm00s ass

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He raised us

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He had like 29 men while we had half of our air Force and 5 infantry

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My airforce is on filled with 3 people

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We had almost 10 to his 20

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His men retreated and we won

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Best 3 hour war ever

wooden hare
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Blasphemy

frozen sparrow
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we hold 4/7 points on albion, have great positions, could win by just waiting and repelling their attacks
half the team decides it's a great idea to rush for the remaining 3 points, splitting us up and resulting in us losing almost every point :(

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why u do dis

solid hinge
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Happens so many times

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People often cry about me camping

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That campers suck, no skill

frozen sparrow
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wrong game to be crying about that 😄

solid hinge
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And when they win they say "campers lose"

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But if the whole team would just camp after taking 2 of 3 objectives

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We would sure as hell win

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Yeah, also wrong game to complain about campers

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Aint gonna rush with a bipod

frozen sparrow
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ha

frozen sparrow
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also closely related: 1 or 2 squads going for an epic flank, which nets them 1 point (the one next to the enemy spawn, that they cap back in 2 minutes)

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while the rest of us are at a disadvantage

sonic delta
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I'M HYPED!

merry ivy
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When the next Battlefield game comes around, I’m going to not be a total noob when I start

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...at least I hope so

solid hinge
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@frozen sparrow talking about squad members

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when you walk all the way to the other side of the map, unseen

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to attack from behind and get some melee kills

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and a squad member spawns in and starts shooting

merry ivy
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Or when you’re so far behind enemy lines on Operations and the only thing keeping you alive is your smoke grenades and a shellhole

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“Oh, I think I’ll spawn on that guy!”

solid hinge
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or when you are boosting with a friend and he forgot to leave his squad

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Hi Joe

solid hinge
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when u have been up all night playing bf4

wooden hare
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On german team, We have flags C D & E

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have plan

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flank on right side (red) to b flag

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nope, everyone fights at c flag

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I flank

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I run into 15 people

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dead

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we get flanked,lose c flag , and spend the rest of the match trying to take back C

solid hinge
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on british side

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completely dominate

wooden hare
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on german team

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tired of kicking British ass

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rest a little

solid hinge
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on german team
completely dominate

wooden hare
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Americans

wooden hare
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ded

solid hinge
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Rapture wins votemap

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ragequit cuz crap map

wooden hare
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What

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Rupture is 👌

solid hinge
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i dont like it

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no good camping spot

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Rapture has good camping spots between the river.

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no river in domination

solid hinge
wooden hare
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Rupture is one of my favorite sniping maps

wraith berry
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exactly why people hate it

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anything open field = bad map

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since its just infested with snipers, look at siani desert for example

wooden hare
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Sinai desert is not all sniping tho

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Most combat is with the other classes

solid hinge
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sinai is great for domination

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covering conquest's C flag and surroundings

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Hi

weak talon
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Hi

solid hinge
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I had this one error, where it wouldn't find a suitable game. But I solved it

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then why do you mention it

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Because I wanted to share the awkward solution,

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I bought premium, but forgot to install it

weak talon
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What error

solid hinge
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Couldn't find a suitable game

weak talon
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You use filters

solid hinge
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What's that?

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I'm kinda new to the Battlefield 1 game, my apologies.

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a filter fitlers

weak talon
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Do you press quick play button or do you search for your embedded game from the server list

solid hinge
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what gamemode you play

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or what servers to show

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Quick play, with premium maps

weak talon
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Oh

solid hinge
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sure it's gonna crash or do nothing

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if you dont have the premuim stuff installed

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Exactly. I'm kinda new to this, so it had me very confused at first.

weak talon
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Hmm @solid hinge he is right

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Hey what about bf 2018

solid hinge
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Did it get confirmed?

weak talon
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No just rumors

solid hinge
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Ah, alright

weak talon
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WW2,BFBC3

solid hinge
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lol?

weak talon
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I wanted a Bad Company sequel

solid hinge
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i want it to be ww1

weak talon
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Not again

solid hinge
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but like with modern weapons and vehicles

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and modern maps like cities

weak talon
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Then thats not ww1

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Lol

solid hinge
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yes it is

weak talon
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Ww1 with a M4a1

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Thats how it is

solid hinge
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just what the first ww would look like if it happened in the 21st century

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instead of the 20th

weak talon
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Oh

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Then think about how far Call of Duty would have gone.... Paralell universe maybe

solid hinge
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wouldnt be too bad

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i mean, wolfenstein is a great game

weak talon
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Wolfenstein is one of a kind

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But you gotta agree that cod ww2 somewhat saved the franchise

merry ivy
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I love relaxing by playing out one of the worst wars in human history with screaming, shelling and brutal close quarters combat

solid hinge
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saved from what?

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from dying?

weak talon
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Yes

solid hinge
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lol that plane took off a long time ago

merry ivy
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COD WW2 isn't that great

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its also not the worst thing ever

solid hinge
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it is

weak talon
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I KNOW

solid hinge
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cod ww2 is simply the best

merry ivy
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COD will never die with its fanbase

solid hinge
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talking about the original one

weak talon
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But its a right step towards the right

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Lol

merry ivy
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people will still buy yearly call of duty

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its not going to change any time soon

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they have no reason to try to keep up with DICE

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the cash flow is basically guranteed

weak talon
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Because of its singleplayer

merry ivy
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I don't really think its because of the singleplayer

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COD WW2 singleplayer was kind of shallow, it was pretty restrictive in what it allowed you to do

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some machine gun shooting at you in the distance? too bad, you can't fire back

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want to play out the map with different strategies and freedom? too fucking bad for you

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here's quicktime events instead

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"press X to blink"

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"press X to breathe"

solid hinge
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talking about cod world at war

merry ivy
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"press X to move right leg"

weak talon
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I just like how the battlefield 1 trailer was the most famous trailer in the whole video game history but when call of duty ww2 trailer came out... everyone went like... "well they are copying DICE now"

merry ivy
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yeah world at war was good

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it actually had somewhat open and creative maps

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positioning actually mattered

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you just have to look at map layouts and gameplay to see how clear the difference is

solid hinge
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i'd love to see a new brothers in arms

weak talon
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Press X to regret for buying cod

solid hinge
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or a DICE made SW Republic Commando

merry ivy
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today, COD is three lane with different props

weak talon
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@solid hinge yeah

merry ivy
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singleplayer is now "press X to pay respects to having freedom of movement"

weak talon
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@merry ivy lol

solid hinge
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dont need that in cod @merry ivy

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already got "press # to salut" in arma

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press + to sit

merry ivy
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COD needs to experiment if they're going to catch my attention

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open up the maps, move beyond three lane copy paste

solid hinge
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double press alt to move your head without moving your wep

weak talon
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COD needs something fresh and non repetative

merry ivy
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exactly

solid hinge
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cod needs something good after 10 years of failure

merry ivy
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in Battlefield I can expect something different every time, I can play different classes at different ranges and go to different objectives

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and the maps play differently too

solid hinge
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but they dont bother

weak talon
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They need to reinovate just like DICE does everytime with their game mechanics

solid hinge
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because they know exactly

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kids cry the fuck out of their parents anyway

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just to get their lil hands on the new cod

merry ivy
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I think Battlefield should move past 64 player servers

weak talon
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@merry ivy yes

merry ivy
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keep them, of course

solid hinge
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i think battlefield needs 2 player servers

merry ivy
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but experiment with high player counts

weak talon
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To 100 player mark

merry ivy
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yes

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100 players, then see if the servers can handle more

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make squads larger too, and emphasize on them staying together as a unit

solid hinge
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would also be cool what battlefield would look like when it's larger

merry ivy
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add a point bonus for keeping together in a squad and performing actions

solid hinge
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just overall larger you know

merry ivy
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+25 for doing something when you are in proximity with your squad mates

solid hinge
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200 player servers, vehicles standing around like in bf3/4

weak talon
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What about a 1/2 km bf map with 100 players or 128 players

solid hinge
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maps the size of maybe Ghost recon wildlands

merry ivy
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you could have 10 player squads in a 100 player server with point bonuses to encourage them to stick and work together

weak talon
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@solid hinge are you mad

merry ivy
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you'd have 10 player squads moving around a massive map, capturing and defending objectives while running into other squads

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it would be insane

weak talon
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The game would simply crash

merry ivy
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no?

solid hinge
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it wouldnt

merry ivy
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not if they do improvements to the engine and servers

weak talon
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How

merry ivy
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which they certainly are capable of

weak talon
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The netcode is important

merry ivy
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why would the game crash if a new title is made with this as a central feature?

solid hinge
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the same way MMOGAs work

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large maps, large playercounts

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not so good graphics

weak talon
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It will definetly affect the netcode

merry ivy
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yeah, I think they need to try 100 players before 200

weak talon
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@solid hinge but we need good graphics

solid hinge
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i would absolutely love to see that battlefield

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just imagine

merry ivy
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they should do a jump in player counts for some modes, but nothing drastic all at once

solid hinge
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a ghost recon wildlands sized map

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100 players teams

merry ivy
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take it in incremental developments

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100, then 150, then maybe 200

solid hinge
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10 player squads

merry ivy
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when the technology becomes good enough for it to be feasible

weak talon
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Then they need to change the gsme modes too

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Like battleroyale or something

solid hinge
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nah, still conquest

merry ivy
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they should remove flag assets for conquest

solid hinge
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just that the objectives are 100km apart

merry ivy
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a team that's piledriving the other should not get more plane and tank spawns and more elite kits

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that's just stupid

weak talon
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Then a single game will be like of 5 hrs

merry ivy
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I get what they were going for with that, but in practice it does not work

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you should not get more stuff for dominating the map, then it only reinforces your map domination

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which is pretty much as counterintuitive to balance as it gets

solid hinge
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i just hope they dont hop on that "battle royale" bullshit

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if they do so, i will return to gta san andreas multiplayer or just keep playing bf1

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maybe even cod, yes

merry ivy
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I think DICE could do a battle royale very well

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but not Battlefield

solid hinge
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it's not about how well they do it

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it's simply bullshit

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i want battlefield to continue with that semi-simulation bf1 has

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you know, that operation stuff

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war stories

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trump vs kong fu un

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or Battlefield world ;o

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all wars ever happened in a single game

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and u can choose which one you wanna play

merry ivy
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I want the next BF to be WW2

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because PING

solid hinge
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wat

merry ivy
solid hinge
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oh that ping

merry ivy
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if they keep class and weapon balance the same and Medic gets DMRs again

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I will be very happy as a Medic main

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because PING

solid hinge
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still want modern combat

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because BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

merry ivy
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we already had modern

solid hinge
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which every weapon makes

merry ivy
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well get your PPSh and MG42

solid hinge
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not gonna happen

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without swastikas

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Panzerfaust pepe

merry ivy
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can't wait to see 1500 RPM MG42

solid hinge
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panzerschreck

merry ivy
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that is going to be

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interesting

solid hinge
merry ivy
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if Battlefield does modern I want this gun

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because 1225 RPM with a 5.56 rifle is a good idea

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especially with normal STANAG mags

solid hinge
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:)

merry ivy
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"that's it?" he's probably thinking to himself

solid hinge
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"already done?"

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she asked

merry ivy
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take M16

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make it fast

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turns out it isn't as good of an idea as you may think

solid hinge
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if it's modern then i want .51 seconds reloads

merry ivy
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I love the old guns though

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1 handed pistols and bad handling

solid hinge
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damn

merry ivy
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the C93 was bad

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but the creator of it didn't want to believe it

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so he refused to modify it

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his apprentice was tasked with making a new design off of it

solid hinge
merry ivy
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that new design was the Luger pistol

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yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

solid hinge
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now thats fast

merry ivy
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basically uhm

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the C93's creator was arrogant

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he didn't modify it

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and then someone else made one of the most iconic pistols ever off the design

solid hinge
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p08

merry ivy
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yep

solid hinge
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smart me

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jk i know the story

merry ivy
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basically the C93's critisms were "why the fuck does it have a heavy tumor" and "why is the recoil so bad"

solid hinge
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still like it in bf1

merry ivy
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yeah, it has to be balanced in a video game

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in real life it was hot garbage compared to alternatives

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although it was one of the first of its kind so there were very few alternatives

solid hinge
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but for handguns

wooden hare
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C93 trash

solid hinge
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every revolver of the 19th century outperforms the c93

merry ivy
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I just hate how floppy and stupid it feels in game is all

wooden hare
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Right

merry ivy
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especially the malignant tumor on the back of the gun

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it just feels wrong

wooden hare
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Kolibri #2 but not as cool

merry ivy
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nah man, the Kolibri has utility

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you can hide it anywhere

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anywhere

wooden hare
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It’s a potato

solid hinge
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kolibri is actually okay

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you can get easy kills with it

wooden hare
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Throwing a potato at someone will only annoy them

solid hinge
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if you hit the enemy with a sniper before

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what the fuck am i typing

wooden hare
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I only bought the kolibri to troll a camper

merry ivy
wooden hare
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I wish they made it OP for one day

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But didn’t announce it

merry ivy
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selecting guns from the screen and choosing a Kolibri

solid hinge
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there is actually a updated kolibri

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seen it in a video today

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lemme find it

wooden hare
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Mfw someone even mentions the kolibri

merry ivy
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I think the Kolibri should have the loudest sound in the game

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heard across the entire map

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shoot it BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

wooden hare
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everyone stops moving

solid hinge
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there it is

merry ivy
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perfect

wooden hare
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Beautiful

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Martini Kolibri

solid hinge
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thats my loadout

wooden hare
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One shot = 1 damage

merry ivy
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I found what the firing sound for the Kolibri should be

solid hinge
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hit with martini, finish with kolibri

merry ivy
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this should be the firing sound for Kolibri

wooden hare
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That’s terrifying

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Imagine someone spamming that

merry ivy
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well they're lucky as fuck that it came in at a shallow angle

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if it came in steep? bye bye Chelyabinsk

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or at least there would have been a few blocks totally gone

solid hinge
#

rasgulla u played gta 5 online?

wooden hare
#

cough NOT Rasgulla

solid hinge
#

spamming that kolibri would be like a hydra or lazer spamming you

#

they Need to add the kolibri in Battlefield V

#

kilibri

#

kolobro

#

kulubru

#

kalabra

#

kelebre

#

kelreri

#

rereri

#

rarah

#

rarahi*

merry ivy
#

Kolibri should be in every Battlefield game

#

because its so good

solid hinge
#

i always liked weak weapons in games

#

mares leg is my top sidearm in bf4

#

just got a guy to 65 health with the kolirbi

#

GAH

#

how many mags?

wooden hare
#

Kokoda

solid hinge
#

4?

#

1

#

headshots only

#

4 shots in the head with the kolibri and the person is dead

#

the headshot damage of the kolibri is actually insane

#

it is

#

its a toy gun for a todler

#

i should get a aimbot and play kolobro only

#

at least it looks like it

#

not gonna waste my account :)

#

true

#

i would love to know how that happened

#

what did i do on that day

#

thats over 6m score

#

aayy

wooden hare
#

Wot

solid hinge
#

nice

wooden hare
merry ivy
#

I'll check my stats

#

what is going on

solid hinge
#

unreal

#

I thought a lot of people on discord do make fun of console players, guess not in this server

#

i do

#

but you are fine as long as you dont promote console gaming

#

I don't, I just want to play you know?

#

i know

#

30fps 420p

merry ivy
#

I don't personally care what platform you play on

#

but if you start spouting "CONSOLE IS BETTER THAN PC" then you can fuck right off

solid hinge
#

thats against the rules too

merry ivy
#

similarly if someone starts shitting on console players for being on console

solid hinge
#

yeah

merry ivy
#

and that blue line refuses to move regardless of my efforts

solid hinge
#

lol that blue line

#

says "u suck" straight in your face

merry ivy
#

pretty much

#

because I did bad when I first got the game

#

it refuses to let me go

#

pretty much all of my normal days are above 3kd

solid hinge
#

not to sound stupid, but is that information in battlelog?

#

no

merry ivy
solid hinge
#

oh, thanks

#

i actually always have a KD above 2, sometimes (at least once per day) even over 5

merry ivy
#

it also doesn't go any higher

solid hinge
#

start of the month i had a 1.39KD

#

now, end of the month, 1.52

merry ivy
#

???

solid hinge
#

I have played both of those games on psn tho

merry ivy
#

weird

solid hinge
#

Ikr

merry ivy
#

but is it under the same account?

solid hinge
#

yeah

#

linked with origin, everything

#

I played on xbox first, I'll try again

#

nope

#

ok, now on my origin account on pc

#

ok that is just weird

#

FINALLY

#

looks healthy

#

from no hacks to hacks

#

except I don't hack

merry ivy
#

my stuff here

#

I am willing to be hurt again

solid hinge
#

lol

#

so i had that 6m+ score on march 30

#

apparently i've played 314 games that day

merry ivy
#

apparently I have 6500 revives

solid hinge
#

do you play conquest or TDM?

#

domination

#

now

#

back then i only played conquest or operations

merry ivy
#

I will find you

#

and I WILL

#

revive you

solid hinge
#

hug me

merry ivy
#

I almost have as many revives as I do deaths

solid hinge
#

very healthy

#

763 assault kills

shut walrus
#

🤢

#

scout

solid hinge
#

i agree

#

Do I play too much scout?

shut walrus
#

For me it's my least used class

#

Ayy nice support 👍

solid hinge
#

support is always good

#

i just love the camper rage

#

literally in every match

#

someone's complaining

#

from in game teamspeak?

#

telling me l2p

#

that i'm a noob

#

i just laugh

#

so would I

#

because that means they got killed by a noob

#

and i laugh even more when they tell me to l2p

merry ivy
#

I have had several rounds where I shit you not

solid hinge
#

because they are the ones not knowing how to play

merry ivy
#

the only thing I died to

#

was SMG 08

solid hinge
#

bipods aint made for rushing

#

I was sniping on bf4 and one of our teammates kept on teamkilling me

merry ivy
#

I tracked it and kept tabs on what I died of

#

SMG 08

#

SMG 08

#

SMG fucking 08

shut walrus
#

LMGs are more "camper" firendly now after the TTK patch

solid hinge
#

what?

#

camping is fun

shut walrus
#

Very good when deployed, not very good when running

merry ivy
#

the role of LMGs are better enforced now

solid hinge
#

thats amazing

merry ivy
#

they are good for holding down areas instead

solid hinge
#

got my perfect spot on every vanilla map

merry ivy
#

of course, BAR and Madsen are still good for aggressive play

solid hinge
#

going off like a lawnmower

#

had 9-0 in the first 35 seconds on quentin scar domination

shut walrus
#

I'd like a "hip-fire" mode available to LMGs where you get a tighter spread with it like you get with the MG sentry but you can't ADS. Would make for a more aggressive style where you temporarely sacrifice long range accuracy for close distance fire power

solid hinge
#

first death at 4:20

#

22-0

#

0

merry ivy
#

I had a 45-1 round with the Howell Sniper or something

#

it was Fort de Vaux

#

they kept coming at us

solid hinge
#

^

#

thats the fun thing about camping

#

kids keep coming

#

old enough players just leave you be

#

I got like 45-18 in a round of turning tides

#

but kids keep trying the best they can

merry ivy
#

you know Assaults, when you keep blindly rushing around corners into 30 metre ranges where I have a power position over you

#

you should try something different

solid hinge
#

^kids

#

yup

#

but then telling you that you are a noob

merry ivy
#

I'm pretty sure half of Assaults are near-sighted and can't see shit beyond their max damage range

solid hinge
#

but they keep coming

shut walrus
#

and then they complain that you're a cheater or using a over powered gun LUL

solid hinge
merry ivy
#

while they spray 80 rounds with their SMG 08

solid hinge
#

boi i laugh so hard when they tell me i'm a noob

#

but they play with smg08

#

like its the m16a3 from bf3 @merry ivy

merry ivy
#

I have trouble trying to figure out DICE balance

#

give the high rate of fire weapons the high magazine capacity

solid hinge
#

balance? lol nice one

merry ivy
#

and the slower ones a lower capacity?

#

????????????????????????

#

SMG 08 should have been 450 and Hellriegel should have been slower too

#

there should have been an actual tradeoff in CQC effectiveness for the high capacity

solid hinge
#

smg08 shouldnt exist

#

and hellriegel should riegel in hell

merry ivy
#

I just don't get why

solid hinge
#

me neither

merry ivy
#

the MP18 is given a 32 round mag

#

and the Hellriegel, which fires faster, gets 60

#

shouldn't the high rate of fire - high mag capacity relationship go the other way around?

#

that's how Medic is balanced

solid hinge
#

it's simply because they have to base it on reality

#

you cant give the bf4 M5K a 450rpm

merry ivy
#

Medic is balanced by magazine capacity

#

it baffles me how Assault wasn't when it matters so much in close quarters

solid hinge
#

it's just insane

#

80 bullets, that rpm

#

and they just dont nerf it

#

no, they buff it

merry ivy
#

People say "but but MP18 is viable"

#

no it isn't

#

it can't even compete outside the Assault class

shut walrus
#

Only reddit says the MP18 is usable

merry ivy
#

yep

#

its the "but it takes skill because its harder to use"

#

when it takes more skill to use simply because its worse

solid hinge
#

the only thing that takes skill in the assault class

#

is the trench carbine

#

and howdah

merry ivy
#

it doesn't work in medium or long range, and in close quarters it's pile drived by the higher fire rate, higher mag guns

shut walrus
#

yeah the trench carbine is a skill cannon

merry ivy
#

the spread and damage of MP18 restricts it to the same ranges as the other SMGs

#

but that's the range where the other SMGs dominate it to hell and back

solid hinge
shut walrus
#

The trench variant got a really good hip fire though

merry ivy
#

does it need that hipfire though?

#

so yeah, you're accurate, but then what?

shut walrus
#

it's the only thing it got going for it lol

merry ivy
#

its like saying the Kolibri has low recoil

#

yeah, then what?

solid hinge
#

then you can stay on target more easily

shut walrus
#

All guns got something going for them, but that doesn't mean it's the best at the game

merry ivy
#

stay on target, but you don't need to stay on target with a Hellriegel or SMG08 anyways

#

it matters with the MP18 because your magazine is only 32 rounds

solid hinge
#

yeah, cuz it takes 200ms to kill anyway

merry ivy
#

compare the MP18 to the Madsen Trench or whatever

solid hinge
#

in close range vs a smg08

#

you blink and you are dead

shut walrus
#

The thing is, there's always going to be a gun that's better than the rest. Even if you nerf them all, one is going to suck the least and therefore be the best

merry ivy
#

the only thing MP18 has over the Madsen is the hipfire

solid hinge
#

no

merry ivy
#

but the Madsen has negative hipfire spread anyways

#

so that's better in sustained fire

solid hinge
#

not if you make all guns have the same stats

shut walrus
#

@solid hinge magic

merry ivy
#

its easy to balance if you have basic common sense

solid hinge
#

no but srsly, bf1's weapons are somewhat balanced

#

it's really about the range

merry ivy
#

Medic is well balanced because its balanced by TTK and magazine size

shut walrus
#

Joe, bare in mind that some of the guns are restricted to IRL stats and the rest has been designed with research on how they would have behaved

solid hinge
#

sure assault dominates everything in close range

#

thats what it's made for

merry ivy
#

IRL stats on experimental SMGs that we have no info on?

solid hinge
#

and thats why an assault cant do anything to a sniper at 30+m

shut walrus
#

Which one are you talking about?

merry ivy
#

Hellriegel in particular

#

are there RPM stats?

#

are there ANY confirmed statistics?

solid hinge
#

if you want that, then there are a few weapons that shouldnt be in the game

#

because they have never seen ww1

shut walrus
#

Well it used two recoil springs likely with a short reciever so it is likely it had an above average rate of fire. IRL I'd even think it had a higher RPM

solid hinge
#

WoT does the same thing with stats

#

for the Maus tank i.e.

merry ivy
#

being limited by magazine capacity and rate of fire does not mean that it cannot be balanced

#

in other ways

solid hinge
#

no confirmed stats but balanced

merry ivy
#

but range does not matter in the Assault Class because all the guns in it do shit at range

#

does it matter that the MP18 has more 'range' than the others? No, because it gets dominated by other classes outside CQC anyways

solid hinge
#

i actually got killed by an assault at 50m once

#

smg08

#

vs arisaka

shut walrus
#

true, it could be open bolt so ut would have reduced aimed accuracy. but it's biggest problem is how much lead you can dump with it

merry ivy
#

the lower rate of fire SMGs should have been given an entirely different spread and damage model

#

kind of like what they did with the Ribeyrolles

#

but also do that to the MP18

solid hinge
#

i want a LMG with 800-900rpm

shut walrus
#

Well the Ribey fired an intermediate cartridge so it will have a higher damage and range than the SMGs

solid hinge
#

with the recoil of the M1917

merry ivy
#

another problem

#

DICE balances it by cartridge

solid hinge
#

just to counter smg08's

merry ivy
#

I mean, within limits

#

they shouldn't limit themselves to caliber if it sacrifices balance, which it currently does

solid hinge
#

not easy to balance weapons if you got so many of them

merry ivy
#

but we don't even have that many weapons

solid hinge
#

they gotta balance with what they've got

shut walrus
#

An LMG with that fire rate would be the "Darne Machine gun M1918", but it would have the same damage as the Chauchat lol

solid hinge
#

would be fine

shut walrus
#

since it fires the 8mm lebel

solid hinge
#

then every class has its OP weapon

merry ivy
#

also what was with the RSC SMG

shut walrus
#

the RSC SMG is a joke lol

merry ivy
#

it should have been 240 RPM with a 2 hit kill

solid hinge
#

assault smg08, medic autoloading / fedorov

#

support M1918

#

scout martini

merry ivy
#

240 RPM with 2 hit kill would be same TTK as 480 RPM with 3 hit kill except it would have given the gun something unique

#

that really high damage would be something new and interesting for any class in fully automatic fire

shut walrus
#

That would make it better than the RSC 1917 for the medic class, so no thx

merry ivy
#

how so?

#

the SMG is bad at range

#

the RSC dominates up to 70m

#

they aren't even alike

solid hinge
#

i want a LMG with 1500rpm, 500 mag, 2 hit kill

#

ttk .001 seconds

merry ivy
#

or maybe the RSC SMG should have been 2htk with 360 RPM

#

the mag capacity would have actually made sense as a limiter

shut walrus
#

Or they should've used the 20-round version but maybe they thought it would be too similar to the Chauchat

merry ivy
#

yeah, I'm fine with the low magazine, but the low magazine makes no sense when the gun already has nothing going for it

solid hinge
#

the chauchat is

#

just

#

feels wrong

shut walrus
#

haha

solid hinge
#

i mean

#

ttk and all is fine

merry ivy
#

its like an automatic medic rifle

solid hinge
#

but when i play support, i want a BRRRRRRRRRR weapon

#

not a BAM BAM BAM BAM weapon

merry ivy
#

treat her as an automatic medic rifle with inverse spread and she will treat you fine

shut walrus
#

fun fact, the support's Chauchat and medic's Autoloading .25 Extended have almost the exact same time to kill and bullets to kill

merry ivy
#

pretty much

#

except muh inverse spread and bipod

solid hinge
#

except that the autoloading comes with super fast hp reg

merry ivy
#

but LMGs have inverse hipfire spread

solid hinge
#

who hipfires with an LMG

merry ivy
#

people in trailers

solid hinge
#

just lie down somewhere with your bipod and scope

merry ivy
#

well that depends on how you play

solid hinge
#

and camp the shit out of the server

#

make kids cry

#

they are not supposed to be here anyway

shut walrus
#

I love picking off snipers with my lMG 08/18 suppressive

solid hinge
#

lol yeah

merry ivy
#

I like rushing people with my Madsen Trench

shut walrus
#

That's a fine gun

merry ivy
#

It works in close quarters, competing with Ribey and MP18

#

it works at mid range because all LMGs do

solid hinge
#

i love crushing the enemy team with my superior camping spots

#

2 of 3 flags in 1 sight? no problem

#

raining kills

#

raining tears

merry ivy
#

I have to do poetry homework

#

I never thought I could loathe a situation more than this moment

#

trying to get it done is like trying to beat a mark 5 with a Kolibri

solid hinge
#

Roses are red, violets are blue

#

I'm a camper, and i will get you too

merry ivy
#

you know what

#

I'm going to do a WW1 poem

#

instant 110% marks

#

oh hot damn WW1 is great for writing some powerful and grim shit

#

this is the goldmine if you're doing a poetry/writing assignment

solid hinge
#

When I try to join a password game and I put password in it is right password

#

But it keeps disconnecting me nad saying pw Invalid

merry ivy
#

when WW2 battlefield rolls around, get ready for the memes

#

they will be coming

#

particularly the ones about Italy

fathom pebble
#

only memes allowed are braddock and dan mitre

merry ivy
#

I can't even understand why Italy did so bad in that war

#

they couldn't even take out Greece until big boy Germany had to hold their hand through it

fathom pebble
#

there's always multiple things that can make your army underperform

#

Iam no military strategist

#

but normally if your troops have a bad leader and strategy or even low moral

#

that leads to failure

#

germany in ww2 always had good moral and good strategy like the blitzkrieg

merry ivy
#

they did so bad against tiny Greece that Greece actually made a counteroffensive

#

this is like picking a fight with a 10 year old and having to run away

fathom pebble
#

I mean its not about the number

merry ivy
#

they did so bad it doesn't even make sense

fathom pebble
#

its about who can out smart better

merry ivy
#

hang on, google will save me

#

their generals were incompetent compared to other nations

#

they had few tanks and those tanks were utter shite

fathom pebble
#

thats a good example why the USSR lost alot territory when operation barbarossa started

merry ivy
#

basically no military tradition

fathom pebble
#

they didnt had good moral and equipment was lacking ot the ammount of infantary they had

merry ivy
#

Mussolini got cocky with Greece and thought it would be easy

fathom pebble
#

I actually liked mussolini

merry ivy
#

never

fathom pebble
#

he united itally

merry ivy
#

underestimate your enemy

#

never do that

fathom pebble
#

under one country

#

and not being this

#

states or regions all separated

merry ivy
#

Winston Churchill dropped a mad burn on Italy

#

called them the soft underbelly of Europe

#

gonna need some ice on that mussolini

fathom pebble
#

adn they were

merry ivy
#

yep

#

its because its true

fathom pebble
#

they had military ambitions they coulnt achieve by themself without germany help

#

also dont forget italy only invaded rly underdeveloped countries

merry ivy
#

while using poison gas

fathom pebble
#

where people couldnt defend agaisnt themselfs

merry ivy
#

I mean they were so bad they had to use gas against them

#

just to get a win

#

I mean, Italy wasn't bad in WW1, they held the line like everyone else in that war so there's nothing standout about it

fathom pebble
#

they werent but italians got rly pissed at the treaty of versailles

#

because they had this portion of land they never got back

#

in the balkans

merry ivy
#

I love playing on the British side in BF1

#

I get to say tons of stuff in chat

#

"you bloody jerries will be pushed back to Berlin in time for tea"

solid hinge
#

Its tea time

merry ivy
#

"Ludendorf? More like Ludendork!"

#

"FOR KING AND COUNTRY LADS"

#

etc. you get the picture

solid hinge
#

God shave the queen

merry ivy
#

yeah, stuff like that

#

basically banter that people would be saying to the enemy if their trenches were 10 metres apart

solid hinge
merry ivy
#

A good throw?

vestal blaze
#

@merry ivy Italy was demolished after WW1, and majority of the population wanted to stay Neutral. The great Mussolini caused a somewhat that split Italy in two

#

they were basically forced to do something they didn’t want to but their facist leader forced them to go against their own will

#

and later on went against Mussolini

#

Italy in a nutshell ww2

merry ivy
#

Not only that but their technology was far behind other major powers

#

Their tanks were weak and slow, their guns were generally inadequate

vestal blaze
#

Yeah they had also had really shitty tech

#

forgot to mention that

#

I mean if Mussolini lead a stronger nation

#

Germany would probably win ww2

merry ivy
#

I don’t know about that

#

Germany also made some poor choices

vestal blaze
#

Yes

merry ivy
#

Such as the classic move, invading a frozen hellhole in winter with no winter equipment

vestal blaze
#

Attacking USSR while fighting the Europeans and US

merry ivy
#

US didn’t join until later

vestal blaze
#

Hitler could have played his cards better for sure

#

US joined just in Time

#

if they stayed neutral for much longer

#

would Germany probably manage to get Britain

merry ivy
#

It was Japan’s fault

#

“Let’s poke this hornets nest”

vestal blaze
#

lol

merry ivy
#

“Surely they won’t be able to get their navy back up in time”

vestal blaze
#

I’m really wondering what Germany is going to do in the upcoming war

merry ivy
#

Germany couldn't have invaded Britain anyways

vestal blaze
#

it’s hell of a mystery

merry ivy
#

look at the Battle of Britain

#

Britain was holding the line so a naval invasion would be impossible

#

they kept naval and air superiority

vestal blaze
#

They could have got Britain if USSR and USA didn’t interfere

merry ivy
#

USSR would have gone to war with Germany anyways

#

their ideologies clashed harder than a 100ss Hellriegel user and an Auto 8.35 elitist

vestal blaze
#

Lmao

merry ivy
#

Germany wanted their land and they hated communists

#

USSR knew this

#

the brief pact they formed was to delay the inevitable

vestal blaze
#

I mean the Germans must’ve had something in mind since Churchill requested a immediate alliance with USSR and USA

merry ivy
#

And it turns out the way to beat a German advance is spamming low tier tanks until the enemy suffocates in them

vestal blaze
#

g

#

g

merry ivy
#

I feel like tank spawns should be reworked

#

there should be tank vehicles that take fewer "tank points" than others to spawn, but are less effective

#

for WW2 I mean

#

you could have these heavy tanks, but they take quite a few points out of the spawn

#

or you could spawn a light tank which could be done more often and in greater numbers

wooden hare
#

Wot

#

USSR burnt the nazis to the ground

#

All the way to Berlin

#

^Britain 1940

#

But a WW2 BF would be great

merry ivy
#

WW2 Battlefield sounds great until you realize it’s going to have to include a PPSh-41

#

1000 RPM Hellriegelmatico anyone?!?!

wooden hare
#

SMG 08/18

#

Buffed

merry ivy
#

“The community is bitching about the Hellriegel still”

#

“Alright then, we’ll buff the SMG 08 to be a Hellriegelmatico to show them we are the boss with the power over this game”

#

“Perfect idea! Now everyone will have to bitch about that gun instead!”

wooden hare
#

Shorter range tho

merry ivy
#

Why would you be at a slightly longer range with an SMG anyways?

#

That’s an SLR / LMG job, of which they do significantly better

wooden hare
#

The SMG 08 has a shorter range than the hellriegel

hoary plover
#

Joe, why do have such a hard time countering SMG's?

#

Also, I would argue against the thing about Soviet tanks being shit-tier.

iron flint
#

smg08 was good before, people be bitching cuz they shit

quiet quarry
#

t34 ftw

#

loved that tank in 1942 😄

solid hinge
#

are we not going to get a Gemini dogtag mission?