you still get put on a team based on skill
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
carmine jackal
Almost every shooter game has some form of MMR/ELO
runic meteor
Even if they added skill based matchmaking with the quick match the server browser would still bypass it
Ehhhhh I doubt it lol
lofty valley
you guys are playing operations play conquest instead
carmine jackal
Yes you can
solid hinge
like i said
violet locust
So, you're saying that you're being put on teams where you're being stomped 90% of the time? Wouldn't that be because of your teammates, and not you, if you're that good?
runic meteor
Like I said I doubt it, I've been added to teams with beast players when the enemy team was short of a good portion of their team
real siren
I don't see how he doesn't see this.
runic meteor
Yeah a lot of people don't realize that it isn't the game it's the playerbase
There are so many random scrubs now
carmine jackal
@violet locust I said 70-80% of my games are stomps, either friendly or enemy. I never said against me. Nice trying to put words in my mouth.
real siren
If you're getting flattened by a team, it is because they are doing better at their roles than you, and you are not working together as well as they are to achieve the goal.
carmine jackal
Lets take a look at battlefield forums
keyword matchmaking
but.... 'nothing wrong'
real siren
Either you match/exceed their skill, or do better as a team on the objective.
runic meteor
Lol bro don't bring up the forums to me I'm all over that bitch
real siren
Multiple people saying something does not validate a point.
runic meteor
Most of the forum is just cryhards crying that their scrubs
carmine jackal
@solid hinge this shit is hilarious.
real siren
Group think =/= fact
carmine jackal
'NOTHING WRONG WITH MY GAME'
storm flower
Anyone heard of the new specializations coming with apocalypse
storm flower
Like why dice
carmine jackal
@real orchidA191#1985 Oh so people who disagree with you are crying?
runic meteor
Not if they have a legitimate argument
violet locust
So, what he was saying about having having a Squad, don't you think that's better than solo queuing and trying to do everything yourself?
real siren
There are many things wrong with BF1, but I disagree with your point.
runic meteor
But when you're just crying for cryings sake yeah
carmine jackal
And you are the judge of legitimacy?
runic meteor
Common sense and logic is the judge
carmine jackal
@real siren See, that is what should have been said. And i'm okay with that.
real siren
It didn't have to be said
runic meteor
Crying that the playerbase is suffering because numbers on pc are a little low is just stupid
carmine jackal
Right, because obviously your opinion is defacto right.
runic meteor
I was playing this game since beta and people got stomped more then
carmine jackal
Sorry we aren't all as intelligent as you to come to that conclusion 😃
@real orchidA191#1985 There was still a good influx of the ranking of skill of players
runic meteor
Common logic dictates that players are better later in the games life
carmine jackal
Now it is mostly just veteran skilled players
runic meteor
Yeah because that's what I said genius
carmine jackal
Yeah, but it doesn't make it to be a good match making experience
real siren
Check your tags before you ping random people, please.
You tagged someone named CJ, not the person here.
runic meteor
You have no clue what you're spouting
carmine jackal
@real siren Do you get off on being a internet mod?
runic meteor
Man please come to the forum and make a cry post I'd love to destroy you there publicly
real siren
I do enjoy doing my job.
runic meteor
He's a sexy horse leave him alone
Loooooool he's sending me private messages because he's salty
Git gud at the game and arguing scrub
Ohhh I forgot, pubg is so much more skillful you can hide in a bush lol
real siren
It's not even really arguing, it's just someone looking for a silly reason to hate BF1.
Believe me, I don't really like it myself. You've seen me in here.
runic meteor
Yeah
real siren
But to blame MM for the "problem" is just laughable.
runic meteor
Still player count has absolutely nothing to do with average player skill
Yep
Some kids man
real siren
screencap those pm's lol
runic meteor
I can't post pics in here
jolly quartz
Conveniently forgets server browser exists
Rendering his mm whines moot
Sounds like madcuzbad to me
Rank 130 is an indication of playtime not skill
violet locust
And solo queuing on top of it, you're not guaranteed to be put on a team that's going to win every single match you're in. That's why he said earlier, find a squad or platoon, and play in groups if you want better results.
real siren
When people complain about rank in games that rank doesn't dictate team balance, you're just whining. Multiplied by solo q.
jolly quartz
Let's not forget it's a team game
runic meteor
Apparently I'm a fucking retard and need to kill myself rofl
real siren
I don't play ANYTHING solo q that uses teamwork and expect a win.
light coral
I am here.
runic meteor
Whoa
runic meteor
a wild angus appears
real siren
Hi Angus, how are you?
light coral
I'm feeling particularly Loqtroll today
runic meteor
Ooooo
jolly quartz
How to win an argument by Kevin Spacey - slander, insult and name call people who disagree with you; pm them to go kill themselves and then block them. Procced to say others can't have a discussion
light coral
What a hero
runic meteor
Lol
light coral
Nobel Peace Prize
runic meteor
You have my vote
light coral
People just need to give Kevin some spacey.
runic meteor
By spacey do you mean something green, stickey, and stinky?
sinful rover
Some spacey away from kids
versed oar
I think you all need to stop being salty that bf1 is dead
Pubg is out what else we need?
runic meteor
Skill based pubg matchmaking?
versed oar
Ya
Actually based on your win rating it is supposed to match make you accordingly I believe
top 1600 in duos
What who said that
runic meteor
It's full of cheaters
versed oar
Lol
versed oar
1942?
iron flint
Fortnite>PUBG 
hoary plover
My god.
The K-Bullet Assignment is fucking impossible.
It's purely fucking luck that you'll even kill anything.
iron flint
@left tundra same question
north rivet
tropic ruin
ugghhhh how is it the party system so fucked when I google it and see that people have been complaining about the party system being fucked since may 2017
do they just release the game and literally not give a fuck about it anymore? -.-
2 days of gameplay and 30% has been actual gameplay and 70% has ben Loading>Failed to join>Loading>MainMenu>Loading>Failed to Join
2 Xbox One's in the same household, one of us can join a game but the other gets "Disconnected from Server" even though the game is 50/64 with plenty of slots open.........
whole rivet
@Kevin_Spacey#4377 hey I think the point @jolly quartz was trying to make is that
- this is indeed a BF discussion channel
- PUBG is a completely different game
- Battle Royale games are just more popular right now
left tundra
I don’t see platoon option in BF1 now, is it just me or it’s for everyone ?
On PS
just confirm with another user, he’s able to see platoon in left menu on PS. but it doesn’t show up for me :/
And it doesn’t show up in “soldier” menu as well :/
jolly quartz
You do realise the game went down hill with the Monthly patches right? May was the start
Game launched great
March was perfect
Now; it's depressing
@whole rivet thank you
whole rivet
No problem mate
jolly quartz
@left tundra platoons have been a bit wonky for the past week
Load into matches and no one has clan tags
Or my mates have their tags but I don't
whole rivet
Is there a way to represent your platoon (with the tag and all) without having your emblem changed?
jolly quartz
It's not game breaking by any means but part of the list of shite that needed attention instead of throwing a monkey wrench into weapon balance 16 months later
Hmmm you could in bf4
No idea for bf1; I don't believe so
whole rivet
Too bad
left tundra
@jolly quartz wtf is going on, all these platoon members see it on their PS but I can’t see it on mine. I get it that they’ve been calling it a beta feature. But still it’s a bit fucked up. Call it alpha
whole rivet
I like my emblem, so I'm not representing my platoon
jolly quartz
Try restarting your game
whole rivet
Good ol' reboot
left tundra
Affirmative!
lofty valley
whats the biggest problems with bf1 right now
whole rivet
Frustrations about the new DLC
matchmaking issues (especially on PC)
Occasionally low player count (although the DLC's have somewhat fixed that)
jolly quartz
People trying to make it bf4 ww1 edition
Dice la
The casual playerbase of video games today
olive crescent
^^^^ yup. Thats how I feel about it. BF 1 has become BF 4
jolly quartz
The only thing that's keeping it on my Hardrive is the setting and music
If it was any other setting I wouldn't play it again
Just maybe sit in the menus and use the music for background sound
Thanks to the way bf1 was treated im stopping with the battlefield franchise
Shame really.
Favourite BF of all time (and I own and have played every one) just from beta turned into such a nightmare and me hating something I once loved
Losing respect for a studio I held in such high regard
I guess if Dice SE makes another mirrors edge or battlefront I might be interested but that's a long way off
If i see dice la has anything to do with anything I will pretend that it doesn't exist
~
I dunno
Really had something going with bf1 and they caved
Add in the rush factor for content Suddenly
Yeah don't make it obvious everyone is dropping everything to work on bf2018
🙄
Just
whole rivet
Aren't you guys overreacting a bit?
One mistake doesn't mean the whole studio is a demonic cesspool
jolly quartz
I'm been with bf1 since alpha
Was perfect till the monthly updates attacked and dice la took the reins
Nothing but broken mess since
It's just a build up of all the shite we've taken over bf1's life
I feel like I was stabbed in the front that's how much it hurts to see this game degraded to such a state; a closed alpha for the next BF title
I love the game
Just not the direction dice la is poking it with a red hot iron rod
And it's not just me
Plenty of people like me who loved the game since day dot are put off now
The game I played at launch is not the game today
shut walrus
What differences from the launch do you feel they've done that changes how it feels? Besides the TTK-patch.
unborn blaze
Well, they added tons of new stuff, and its more balanced
jolly quartz
NetCode would be the biggest one
Honestly starting to feel like bf4 which is not and never will be a good thing
runic meteor
How about cavalry lol
It's paper thin now
In beta I use to shit my pants when I'd see a cavalryman
Spring patch netcode was one of the best online experiences I've ever had in all my years of gaming
And they rolled that shit back because people with shitty Internet cried that they had to deal with their potato connections instead of us
Ea made dice cave in because of all the threats of lawsuits
solid hinge
Hello guys. Could anyone please tell me what 'Out of Combat Heal' is? I'm just trying to gauge the value of the Quick Regen specialization, but I'm not exactly sure what it's purpose is: "The specialization decreases the time to initiate Out of Combat Heal by 20%."
wary mason
out of combat heal is the healing process that starts automatically when not taking damage in a short period of time
solid hinge
@wary mason Thanks! It makes sense now. Damn I'm stupid.
iron flint
What I don't like about battlefield 1 are the arse spawns and bad team balancing
hoary plover
Since DICE is adding the Spotting Pigeon as a gadget...
We should be able to get Roadkills with that thing.
Like with the SUAG.
heavy sparrow
Please no
iron flint
lul
unborn blaze
sinful rover
TACTICAL PIGEON
topaz mesa
Who wants to play bf1 with me
heavy sparrow
Maybe in a bit my dude
lofty valley
When is bf2 releasing
olive crescent
2005
iron flint
left tundra
Lmao
violet locust
👀
shut walrus
ayyyy
violet locust
👋
solid hinge
are birdstrikes going to be a thing?
like if your pigeon flies into an enemy aircraft's propellor it destroys the plane
solid hinge
Where is a good place to get emblems?
feral sedge
Dice should make BF2018 like Planetside 2
Open world and more land to explore.
Wayyy larger battles.
violet locust
feral sedge
Wouldn't that be great tho?
solid hinge
128 players was the limit in 2002
hoary plover
I remember reading that there were custom servers that would host 300 players in Battlefield 4.
olive crescent
Well before they do anything by adding more players to the game, they desperately need to fix their bloody balancing system. No game should start with 4 players against 9 in TDM, Rush, Dom etc, nor start 30vs12 in CQ.
jolly quartz
One theory I have on that is people join when a game is populated
So they are put on a team
But then people leave but they get out on the bigger team because they were already out there when it was even
lofty valley
What is the best lmg
olive crescent
@jolly quartz probably right. Players should not be assigned to a team until theyre fully loaded in, so big teams dont get first dibs when people leave.
jolly quartz
Yea they shouldn't
But it puts you on a team before you load in
I can confirm as being the first to load in and watching others get put before they are in
solid hinge
I wish they kept the slouch hat for the vanilla British Scout.
That had potential for some damn good TF2 jokes
Like a cinematic copying the 'Meet The Sniper'.
But in general, also represent the ANZAC forces in Europe.
unborn blaze
@solid hinge Lets focus on the Canadians first, eh?
Because the ANZACs have the Gallipoli stuff
And probably won't even have their own faction
jolly quartz
That is false
ANZACs did not fight at the landings at Cape Helles
Indians and French did but aren't represented
So did the scots, Irish, English and Newfoundlers
5000 ANZACs fought at the second battle of Kirthria so they just barely get a pass for Archi Baba
Anzacs fought at Suez, Sinai, Scar and Amiens along with Ypres and Somme yet nothing
Instead dice shoehorned them in like the campaign
Playing off the Gallipoli aspect and ignorance of some people
iron flint
British medic is an indian
hoary plover
In the Western Front maps with Brits.
The Scout (in TuTi) is in the 11th Taranaki Company, Wellington Battalion of the New Zealand army going off the badge, with the red-striped puggarees (felt hatbands) around his hat indicating he is infantry.
Additionally, he is apart of the Maori, the indigenous people of New Zealand.
Also, thank god that all the Royal Marines classes are white.
jolly quartz
British medic isn't on Gallipoli though
Which I don't get
Perfect map for him
nope
Let's shoehorn an Aussie into the spot instead and because ignorance especially over Simpson (who was a cunt)
hoary plover
Crab, over a million Indians served on the Westerm Front.
jolly quartz
My issue is that they aren't at Gallipoi
versed oar
You just want people who wear funny hats on your team
You still never answered my question about insurgency
jolly quartz
I want dice to have correct fuckin models
Not shoehorn shite
What about insurgency
versed oar
Sandstorm isn't out yet though is it?
I wonder if people will even play it on console
jolly quartz
No idea
quick cobalt
Kangaroos? Combat wombats though
ripe arch
If a MG player can outsnipe a sniper in Metro Conquest going all the way from flag C to US Spawn, is he a hacker?
ripe arch
There's no way I can kill this guy
The moment I appear, he suppress me which ruins me accuracy
lofty valley
He is probably using the overpowered pin down perk
brisk pewter
Just played bf1 after playing bf4 for like 10 hours and I forgot bf1 doesn't have counter knifing, but a melee kill requires you to be behind them
fathom pebble
stoic mist
you still playin :D?
quick cobalt
The Rambo gun. Ah yes. *To answer the hacker debate, false. Player eats too many carrots. Possibly bugs bunny.
Back to Basics ?? PS4 anyone ?
heavy sparrow
Does that mean we're getting the afflictions with it
solid hinge
i need help
im playing bf4 and when i got to level 3 i went to open my bronze battlepack and saw i had (about) 10 golden packs, some black, and one bronze. I opened them all and now im scared that i either have both them in a strange way without knowing or the game just gives you it??? PLEASE HELP
left tundra
@versed oar @jolly quartz Oi, get a room you two
heavy sparrow
@solid hinge DICE give them out every now and then I believe
pulsar valve
yeah, they give out a bunch
shut walrus
Have they stopped giving out BP to premium users in BF1?
unborn blaze
EA is shitty
silver forge
Sorry for the question out of left field, I've searched all over and can't find an answer...
I currently am on a Platoon for PS4 but recently got my PC back up and running so I wanted to start playing there again. Is there a way to join a platoon that is PS4-based? Are platoons cross-platform or do I need to recreate the platoon for PC?
olive crescent
I think youd have to recreate it on the PC. As far as Im aware platoons are platform specific.
silver forge
That's the impression I was getting, thanks for that info!
solid hinge
and I am bored
lofty valley
What gun do you recommend a beginner assault player that’s atleast rank 3
heavy sparrow
MP18, probably
olive crescent
MP 18 is a good choice. Still my favorite SMG
solid hinge
bf3 coop?
ripe arch
Is the worst thing ever made
solid hinge
yeah i know but i need someone to play it with me so i can get that handgun
shut walrus
Which handgun?
unborn blaze
Nagant? Obrez?
still thicket
torpid wharf
😏
mental saffron
I liked it, with the MTAR-something @still thicket
ashen mirage
trials still going for BF1?
lofty valley
What gun is good using if you want a challenge?
violet locust
@ashen mirage what do you mean?
jolly quartz
Premium I guess
I think it goes till the 20th
Basically when apocaplyse drops no more trials
violet locust
Yeah, I think so. DLC isn't confirmed for the 20th tho
brazen current
Though that sucks cuz BF1 is still one of the best recent FPS’s released.
jolly quartz
What about that announcement eariler
brazen current
Huh?
violet locust
They took it down, it's not there anymore
jolly quartz
violet locust
It says something else now
jolly quartz
Saw a YouTube comment go "wish they would make the next battlefield already instead of making DLC"
Actually depressing to read
violet locust
Yeah, kinda is
jolly quartz
Ignorance is killing me
violet locust
I'm sure they may have started on it already tbh
brazen current
It’s most likely, but until then, BF1, as I said, is probably still one of the best FPS’s recently released that I know about (despite it being two years old)
jolly quartz
Bf2018 is pretty much done
brazen current
I’m just hoping that unlike this DLC, they take the time to do it right and make it good
jolly quartz
Set for October release
Bf1 was
Dice la shot it down in flames
Reveal possibly next few months
Alpha just after
brazen current
I’m looking foward to it
brazen current
Rip
jolly quartz
After how bf1 was treated I'm done with it
brazen current
BF1 is my only battlefield game, but I’m considering getting BF4 at some point
They did kinda just let it die, but BF1 was originally a masterpiece for when it came out.
brazen current
Yeah,
jolly quartz
New DLC and everything
Set to be the best
May comes with the monthly updates and Dice LA
insert everything was fine till the fire nation attacked here
brazen current
Yeah
If I remember correctly, things went downhill after the ‘in the name of the tsar’ DLC came out?
violet locust
I like BF1, just wasn't much of a fan of the weapon assignments
lofty valley
Who else just wish you didn’t have to do service assignments
violet locust
simple meadow
brazen current
lofty valley
He said you like most wife’s they nag alot
solid hinge
R6 then BF1 personally for me
Also can anyone check #general and gimme some tips?
Dead
Frig
simple meadow
@solid hinge Welcome on BFD
solid hinge
😃
lofty valley
is dice trying to hurry up and get on with bf1?
hoary plover
Quite likely.
BF1 doesn't feel like it's getting the same love BC2, BF3 and BF4 did.
It just feels like they're trying to rush the DLC's along so that they can get on and focus all their resources into BF2018.
wary mason
wouldn't personally say they're rushing the DLCs when the game launched 2016
solid hinge
I actually like BF1 a lot more than the other games
weak marsh
bf1 isnt bad
the game itself
is amazing
but yeah the way the treated it
made it not really fun
if BF2018 wont be good
im done with BF
COD failed me
i hope BF wont
man after black ops 2
they gone very bad.
main walrus
I really enjoy playing BF1
olive crescent
gonna be honest, this game has been pissing me off this past week. this is honestly not the BF 1 that I feel in love with back in 2016.
olive crescent
since the TTK 2.0 patch the entire game has changed dramatically.
heavy sparrow
I feel it's done a better job at making sure all weapons are remotely useable now
lofty valley
The ttk patch was the best thing to happen to bf1 support are slightly more dominant now
heavy sparrow
Supports actually have a place now, which is nice
It doesn't feel like you've got a peashooter anymore
olive crescent
they were all useable prior to the patch. Some weapons sure needed a buff sure, but not every single weapon needed a dramatic change. Games have become extremely unbalanced over the last few days, camping has risen more than it used to be pre patch, the TTK didnt make any of the lesser used weapons any more viable, as the Hellriegel still reigns supreme on console, support just stays back camping prone and bipoded with the scouts, aggro scouts have become worthless now, and medics are nerfed heavily in CQC unless youre using a Federov or M1907 Sweeper.
heavy sparrow
I'm kinda inclined to disagree based on my own experience, but I feel that's how the game ought to be
lofty valley
Being able to actually defend yourself with an lmg is all worth it
olive crescent
I had no issues doing that pre patch.
lofty valley
I personally think they should’ve only changed the lmgs
heavy sparrow
I felt that was only possible with one or two of the LMG's
And then the TTK at range with some of them was way too big
Like... 7 shots with the Lewis
lofty valley
7 shots with hout with 26 magazine was just unusable for most people
charred prairie
is buying premium for BF1 worth it?
lofty valley
If you play bf1 often I would get it
heavy sparrow
I'd say so
charred prairie
bc I don't want to buy it and then they announce a new game and they stop supporting this one
charred prairie
BF1 is the only Battlefield I really enjoy of the ones i've played so I'm tempted
wdym a lot to work towards?
olive crescent
Huot was my most used weapon before this patch. I agree, some weapons couldve used a buff. Some LMGs like the Lewis and Huot couldve used some love with a slight damage buff to get them more in line with the Madsen, Benet and MG 15, but changing the TTK this far into the games lifecycle I feel has been a huge mistake, and has changed the entire meta of the game, and not for the better
heavy sparrow
So you can set yourself goals to unlock various guns and stuff
lofty valley
If your getting tired of the base game guns then I would buy it
heavy sparrow
There really are some fun guns in the DLC
charred prairie
ok
heavy sparrow
But I guess my thoughts on the TTK update is that it really helped to break the meta?
I'm not nearly killed by the same guns all the time now
As almost everything is much more viable
lofty valley
I’m seeing more people using hout low weight instead of just using a dough boy bar storm
olive crescent
I get killed by the Hellriegel just as much, if not more than I did prior to the patch. While I dont get killed by the BAR a whole lot now, the support weapon of choice seems to be the MG 15, Mondragons are still prevalant in the Medic class, but it has some variety with Federov, Farquhar-Hill, and Selb 1916. Scouts seemed to have abandoned the aggro scout tactics, so I see very less Gewehr 95s on the field, and more and more Scouts hanging back with a sniper scoped rifle than anything else.
Maybe the TTK patch is better on the PC, but on console it is absolutely horrible for the game.
heavy sparrow
I don't really see any problems with scouts not instantly dumping 60+ damage into you instantly
lofty valley
Snipers are really annoying to me I don’t really take them seriously there just like pest to me
olive crescent
snipers are annoying, but I rarely see them being aggressive anymore on the flags. I rarely ever see aggro scouts, and when I do, theyre usually dead within seconds
lofty valley
I think scouts are switching to Farquhar run n gun
lofty valley
Farquhar is slightly overpowered low fire rate but you can just keep spamming it since it has 25. Magazine
heavy sparrow
Fair enough, but I just don' know why you wouldn't use the RSC over it
iron flint
Variety? Also, RSC isn't the best gun at everything
I also feel that bf1 has been a bit dull recently, dunno why
heavy sparrow
Well, for scouts trying to get into medic and all
iron flint
I don't like how they designed the scout class
super powerful weapons should be hard to master, but in bf1, everyone can pick out a rifle and go on mad streaks + the sweetspot. WTF, Dice
heavy sparrow
I must be the only one who finds sweet spots to be more of a hindrance than a blessing
It's probably why I like the M95 the most
iron flint
I guess dice had to do something to bring variety to the scout class
but it was still a bad idea
feral sedge
Is it confirmed that BF2018 will be WW2?
violet locust
Nope
violet locust
We'll have to wait and see
feral sedge
So what is a "DICE Friend"
heavy sparrow
An associate, I'd imagine
wary mason
violet locust
^^
violet locust
Hey Hess, wanna put that link I just posted in Announcements? 
wary mason
@violet locust 💝
violet locust
❤
feral sedge
Nice job dude!@
violet locust
Haven't seen it 👀
violet locust
Hmmm
wary mason
You can check all the current DICE Friends from this thread
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/74779/battlefield-1-dice-friends-recipients#latest
(it's a long list)
wary mason
ah 😄
feral sedge
:
feral sedge
You guys are so sweet.
violet locust
I have BF4 for PC, but it's a hot mess. Haven't been able to play it
latent sigil
Spanish? :V
It's hard to be from Battlefield and find someone who speaks Spanish :,v
mystic heath
shut walrus
More upwards recoil from what I can feel, so aim a bit lower than usual.
Ribeyrolles is fairly good
especially with the bipod deployed
olive crescent
Still as OP as before the patch.
shut walrus
Actually not, it's recoil is increased which means you can't utilize it at longer ranges as well
olive crescent
Not on console. Its still powerful at medium range regardless of the recoil
shut walrus
Yeah because aim assist. Console is a different country
jolly quartz
Then why on PC has hel usage picked dramatically? 
Can't be because the recoil is ez and 4tk with 60 round drum at 650rpm
No
ripe arch
One of these days I will really consider the notion of being knifed while in mid air as supreme bullshit
lofty valley
What happens if your a dice enemy?
wary mason
merry ivy
sinful rover
o h
solid hinge
They could add two more Martini conversions.
The pistol which can rival the Obrez.
And the Greener 12/14G for Assault.
:^)
calm fossil
I speak spanish/english
iron flint
no more one-shot pistols, just no
heavy sparrow
I want more skill shot pistols
shut walrus
Mare's Leg
heavy sparrow
In Battlefield 1
shut walrus
If you select no primary on the scout class and switch to K-bullets you can sorta get a Mare's Leg
heavy sparrow
I guess?
The pistols in BF1 sorta need some sort of change
I feel, at least
There's no reason not to use the M1911 or the Obrez
iron flint
Plenty
heavy sparrow
And if the argument is "capacity" there is not much gained by a 1 or 2 bullet increase
iron flint
Revolvers are way more effective when you can aim
heavy sparrow
Oh, of course
I just wish all the handguns weren't class specific
It seems rather unnecessary
Especially considering that they all seem to fill the same role of
A [revolver]
And
iron flint
It's a balance between a semi auto handgun and a revolver
shut walrus
Howdah fires revolver rounds
iron flint
Yeah, but it fires slightly faster and reloads way faster
shut walrus
The scout class pretty much have the two best hand guns, Mars Automatic and the Frommer Stop
heavy sparrow
Yet with it's pitiful capacity just leaves it at a disadvantage against the Gasser
heavy sparrow
Without aiming down sights, the Gasser has a faster fire rate, I believe?
shut walrus
The Gasser is also full auto
heavy sparrow
Also that
iron flint
if you don't aim, i believe
heavy sparrow
When are you going to be aiming with a pistol?
shut walrus
But Gasser takes an eternity to reload
iron flint
The reload times are really not that much of a problem
there's plenty of time spent out of combat
heavy sparrow
That I can agree on
iron flint
you can just reload while moving between objectives
heavy sparrow
Still doesn't make the nagant revolver worth it though
iron flint
nagant is arse
heavy sparrow
Mhmm
iron flint
worse than kolibri
heavy sparrow
Pff
iron flint
It's bad at everything
shut walrus
The nagant is basically the M1911 with a slow ass reload
iron flint
damage, muzzle velocity, reload time is even worse than other revolvers
rather a mars
heavy sparrow
I can't think of an upside for it at all
iron flint
If it was 2hk,it would justify the long reload
iron flint
but otherwise it's an awful awful gun to pick
heavy sparrow
Uh oh here we go
shut walrus
Only advantage of Nagant is that it can kill in fewer bullet at longer ranges, which is quite null considering its rate of fire
heavy sparrow
I honestly feel that most pistols are only really useful within that range anyway
Maybe with the exception of the Obrez
shut walrus
Yeah true, although I like to "snipe" people with the revolvers just to annoy them. It doesn't kill but you can see them running away which is fun
heavy sparrow
Fair enough
Just eh
Pistols are in a spot where their only use is to give you somewhat of a chance in CQC
If you're out on your primary, that is
hoary plover
Not using pistols as a primary.
Not using them at range.
Not using the Nagant Revolver.
What are you, a scrub?
shut walrus
Kolibri getting nerfed
pulsar valve
for real?
iron flint
I only use revolvers or fast firing semi auto pistols, M1911 is good, but the ttk really isn't that great
hoary plover
Using only good weapons.
What are you, a scrub?
iron flint
carmine falcon
Inb4 knucklememe.jpg
hoary plover
Knuckle memes.
What are you, a normie?
heavy sparrow
Da wae heheheh
south flicker
iron flint
rich vault
wary mason
boosting is against the terms of service anyway
hoary plover
Not boosting.
Being tactical and looking for hill humpers.
What are you, a scrub?
shut walrus
Start with the campaign
agile solstice
Greatly advised
shut walrus
After that play Conquest and try and get an idea how the classes work
agile solstice
Do you guys play operations?
iron flint
👀
agile solstice
Which one do you like the most? I've never really played them
heavy sparrow
Kaiserslacht is probably my favourite
wary mason
from behind you'll always get the takedown
solid hinge
sometimes it's an animation and sometimes you just donk them
wary mason
from infront you'll only get the take down if player is below the HP a normal hit from a melee would do
some melee weapons vary in damage
for example the shovel does 80dmg / hit so you can be takedown from infront at 80hp with it
solid hinge
if you're running up towards someone with a knife you're probably in trouble anyway though right?
whole rivet
Doesn't the shovel do 55 damage?
solid hinge
it sounds like there's been a lot of patches
whole rivet
I think it's like this:
Knifes: 35dmg
Bats: 45dmg
Shovels, Hatchets... : 55dmg
wary mason
whole rivet
Knifes having the most range
whole rivet
The shovel does the same dmg as the Hatchet, no?
solid hinge
knives have the most range???
solid hinge
is there any reason not to take a bayonet
wary mason
bayonet increases your recoil
and sometimes you migh accidentally bayo charge instead of knife
i usually take my bayo off
also
Hatchet is better than shovel seems like
same stats but it breaks wood and wire
whole rivet
Yeah that's been known for a long time
brazen current
They really should give the shovel something going for it...
whole rivet
Also @solid hinge bayonets increase ready time (so you won't be able ro ready your weapon as quick)
Perhaps the ability to dig through walls
I dunno lol
brazen current
Lol
whole rivet
Although it'd probably take too long to dig a hole
brazen current
But they’d be like smaller and take a few hits
whole rivet
Meaning you'd be sniped before accomplishing anything
brazen current
But it’d be intresting feature for people who manage to have the time
solid hinge
Oh
brazen current
like, if you’re in a communitcating squad they could cover you while you dig but...
solid hinge
It would be nice if it told you that
whole rivet
You can't make it an instant thing either, because that'd look stupid
brazen current
Right
brazen current
it would take maybe a good amount of hits, and slowly appear
but that way people can make small foxholes and then large ones
whole rivet
Perhaps it's interesting to consider for BF2018
brazen current
Yeah
whole rivet
Although it fits the WW1 theme so well
brazen current
Too late for BF1 but later on it would be intresting to make your own trenches
solid hinge
are there any recommended loadouts for each class?
brazen current
I mean, a bunch of foxholes clustered together could technically be a makeshift trench
brazen current
I just thought of using that trick to make said makeshift trench for your squad at the cost of that life’s explosives if you play assault
whole rivet
@solid hinge
Assault: MP18 Trench - AT nades - Rocket Gun
Medic: RSC 1917/Farquhar-Hill - Bandage Pouch - Medical Syringe
Support: Huot Automatic - Ammo Crate - anything
Scout: can't go wrong with the Lee-Enfield, pick whatever gadget you want as long you use Spot Flares
solid hinge
isn't the huot worse than the Lewis? it trades a lot of ammo and control for minor accuracy and hipfire bonus
but I like the look of those classes a lot
Thanks
iron sights or bullhorn?
heavy sparrow
Depends what you prefer
brazen current
^^^
like for example, I perfer iron, but whenever I steal a class off someone I killed it’s not uncommon for them to be bullhorn
solid hinge
iron looks like it might be easier for long range slower shots
This is fun
Any recommended grenades?
whole rivet
Gas is really good, Incendiary very nice in choke point battles, my personal favourite is the Light AT nade, it's very versatile
And about the comparison between the Huot and Lewis, I've got two things to say:
- Just look at the Lewis iron sights and try to like them. For me, that's impossible.
- I'm pretty sure Huot initial shot accuracy is really high, which means you can effectively burst fire (a very valuable skill)
solid hinge
Ok the Lewis iron sights are incredibly ugly that's true
the aa sights are cute though
That initial shot accuracy makes a big difference you're right
Useful!
I've been gassing everything so far
iron flint
@solid hinge Experiment with loadouts, try crazy stuff, there's really no bad guns in the game, only bad players.
solid hinge
Hello guys,
Do you think the Stimulant Syringe specialization is worth the trouble? Looks like a long grind to me.
solid hinge
Hmm, sounds good. I'm playing on a PS4, finding a server with only one map in the rotation is going to be a bit of trouble it seems.
What do you think of the specialization itself, if I may ask? @iron flint
iron flint
It's useful, really
the only one i'd pick over the default ones on any class, really
I'd recommend you swap it out with the Quick Regen, since medic can already heal himself
specializations to other infantry classes are really not worth it, keep em at default
solid hinge
I recently unlocked Healing Hands and Reciprocity, I though Stimulant Syringe would be a nice addition. Thanks for the Quick Regen tip!
iron flint
shut walrus
slow down when turning
frail zealot
but upt ill what poitn do you need to slow down
shut walrus
Until you've made the turn. When you are in the middle of the turn when doing a 180 you should start to speed up again.
sinful rover
Surprised they didn’t add the Berthier to bf1 with They Shall Not Pass
Or the Ruby or 1907 savage
tropic narwhal
nerd
solid hinge
Hello lads,
Any way to disable a Flare Gun (Spot)?
heavy sparrow
Why would you want to disable it?
solid hinge
I mean an enemy one mate, I like to be stealthy every now and then
Can't.
Once it's fired it can't be taken out in any way.
Hmm, I once noted a red circle/area on my mini-map: is that the Flare Gun's area?
What map?
Map on the bottom left mate. It was quite a big red, circled area. Not sure what it was
I mean what map.
Like,
Sinai, or, Grappa.
Hmm, I'm new to the game so not exactly sure. The one where the Turks I believe defend against the Brits, Operations, Brits from the sea
Was it DLC?
Not sure bro. But I often check the mini-map and I don't see this solid red circle that much, but I believe I even once saw a blue (friendly?) one. Got me curious!
Ah so it must've been Helles.
That rings a bell! What do those circles stand for if I may ask?
The Infiltrator Elite Class is what caused that.
They have a flare gun that (((summons))) an artillery barrage.
The red circle means an enemy Infil called it in.
A blue one means your friendly Infil called it in
Roger that! Thanks for the clarification!
As infantry, are those stationary AA guns our only effective way of taking out enemy planes? ( I miss the Igla )
You can also grab an AA Artillery Truck from the ground vehicle spawn.
I'll keep that in mind, thanks! Those enemy bombers can become quite annoying very quickly.
sometimes teammates will bully you for what they view as wasting a tank spawn if you do that though
True
I haven't experienced that so far though.
if you're a good shot with a sniper and the anti armour rounds then you can get some decent damage on a strafing plane
but it's not very effective
Sounds difficult!
Speaking of snipers: what do you guys think a 'PTFO' Scout could/should play like in Battlefield 1? Would it come down to moving up slowly but steadily from the sidelines, intensively spotting enemies on the way?
Yes.
100%
I feel like spotting isn't that popular on PS4. Would it offer my team a huge advantage if that is what I dedicate myself to with the Trench Periscope?
it can depend on the situation
scarlet belfry
Anyone still play bf4 on ps3?
solid hinge
often you can just spot people through your scope
If I remember correctly you could fly a drone in Battlefield 4 from a safe distance and spot enemies and destroy gadgets. I felt like it was one of the best tools out there!
the periscope is more useful if you want to breach a hilltop or something and you want to check if it's safe first
Does the Periscope share the 'glare' mechanism of scopes I wonder? But the scope indeed does just fine!
I think so.
People notice when I use it.
Fair enough, I guess!
Oh that's a good point
jolly quartz
It does have the same glint but you can use it behind cover
solid hinge
I assume it can get destroyed?
jolly quartz
Because of the glint
solid hinge
im assuming the glint
jolly quartz
They can't spot you unless you have your body exposed
solid hinge
I'm not that familiar with the terminology, but are those carbine rifles in the scout class similar to carbine weapons in Battlefield 4, as in 'more suitable for up close'?
To a degree.
Not suggested but they're for closer ranges.
jolly quartz
Carbine in bf1 for scout means a shortened rifle with a Len ladder sight
jolly quartz
Only the Carcano carbine has irons
solid hinge
By theory the 1895 Trench is a carbine too.
Roger that. Might be what I'm looking for. Thanks for the tip!
does the trench periscope have a range finder?
Barely.
hah
It helps to figure out a distance in your head.
Can Ammo Pouches resupply us of Flare Gun projectiles?
Yes.
No wait
I assume crates do?
Only crates
Yes
Roger that
what's even the point of ammo pouches
I like my Medic Pouch when we are pushing aggressively!
Quick resupplies for rounds.
The medic pouch is wonderful
The ammo pouch seems to fill no niche though
The cooldown for redeploying the crate is only like 5 seconds
i guess you can throw them pretty far
I assume the Ammo Pouch like the Bandage Pouch automatically finds it's target within 15 meters?
Ye
In the case of the Bandage Pouch that is such a strong mechanism, really helps out the Medic class.
it's a very nice one
Do you think there should have been something similar for the Syringe?
No
That would be... scary
jolly quartz
Ammo pouch instant resupplies all gadgets
solid hinge
it does??
jolly quartz
It just doesn't resupply grenades unless you stand near it but no pick it up
Yeah hence I run it
solid hinge
Why is that mate? Personally on the PS4 I really dislike having to switch back to my weapon after reviving ( in the heat of the moment )
jolly quartz
Keeps scouts popping flares and assaults going at tanks
scarlet belfry
BF4 ps3 anyone?
jolly quartz
Pouches are for on the move with individual players
Crates are for a more slower approach/mass mobs
solid hinge
huh
go figure
The Ammo Pouch is quite powerful if it instantly resupplies gadgets!
jolly quartz
Really depends on your playstyle too
If you move and push a lot solo/with a few others pouches
If you hang back or move with the Zerg crates
Find what works for you
Favourite thing about pouches is the spot throw
That's the best
solid hinge
Any significant tactical advantage of running with both of them?
jolly quartz
Pouches limit your ability to heal/resupply yourself if you are constantly tossing to teammates thigh
Whilst crate does you as well
If you want to run both do it
Props not for medic
But for support its a worthy setup
solid hinge
I'm going to give it a shot! Any particular weapon you can recommend a Support mostly for raining down suppressive fire?
jolly quartz
Depends on your accuracy
If you aren't too accurate go for the higher mag capacity LMGs
I'd personally recommend m1909 Benet Mercie
It's the most accurate LMG but only has 30 rounds
solid hinge
Quite low, I would say. Unless you can get high value out of every bullet like you said
jolly quartz
You have premium?
solid hinge
How does burst fire work out for LMGs in this game? Not a deal breaker in the case of suppressive fire?
Yes I do mate
jolly quartz
Hmm if you haven't already unlocked it go the Perino
Accurate LMG too with 120 mag capacity with a hopper you can keep flipping strips into
Bursting LMGs isn't recommend for bf1
Except the mg14/17
Either tap fire or use the accuracy over time mechanic
The longer you fire the more accurate you are
You can try bursting just the spread will knock you around
solid hinge
Mate that last part 'with a hopper you can keep flipping strips into' was too advanced for me. Does it basically mean somethink like 'reload while shooting'?
Thanks for the tips by the way
jolly quartz
The Perino has a hopper feed but uses strips like the Benet Mercie
With the hopper you have 12 ten round strips loaded which automatically feed
As you fire off rounds you can just top the hopper off by puttin more strips in
Say you fire and kill someone and you reload your shots fired
Think of it as the best tac reload in gaming
Especially if you compulsively reload after every kill
solid hinge
I follow, I think. Only take time to reload as much as you need, right?
I think YouTube will indeed be a good place to check it out
jolly quartz
I'll see if I don't have a clip of me using it handy
Technically the Perino has the quick reload of all LMGs due to its hopper system
solid hinge
Anyway, thanks for the information. I'm going to work on the assignments required to unlock the Perino!
Thanks for helping a brother out mate
jolly quartz
No problem 👍🏻
This was back in September when ITNOTT launched; I haven't used the Perino post TTK so I don't known how much it was buffed
solid hinge
The default Lewis has done me very well
decent at close range
accurate after 3 shots
big enough mag
olive crescent
Perino even since before the update, and for sure after, is my favorite LMG in the game. Even prefer it over the M1917 MG, which is blasphemy to some people
hoary plover
Using good guns.
What are you, a scrub?
jolly quartz
Heresy
lofty valley
dont ever burst fire unless you absolutely think its necessary
nice to see more people using hout
olive crescent
I hate seeing people use the Huot now. I loved wrecking people with it before as no one used it, and it was special. Now its not as special
lofty valley
same with me atleast i dont see people using hout optical
quasi mortar
No matter what I do or what video I watch my aim never gets better idk what's wrong
runic meteor
Wow baron is a fucking tard
olive crescent
😁
It seems like a lot of players who came into the BF franchise at BF 4 are the ones who have the most issues with BF 1, and want this game to be nothing more than a WWI BF 4
lofty valley
Bar telescopic is unusable now too much recoil
brazen current
I never liked the BAR telescopic to begin with
Just cuz the BAR always felt like a support CQC weapon
olive crescent
Not exactly BF 1, but just picked up BF 3 for cheap for the Xbox again. Nice to play some nostalgia once again
lone heron
wow
hoary plover
Not wanting to use a gun anymore because it ain't special.
What are you, a fucking SJW scrub?
hoary plover
Using a good weapon.
What are you, a scrub?
solid hinge
i sure wish the battlepacks had cool skins in them again
brazen current
I remember the time I worked hard to get a rare M1911 skin that was legendary, then there was a bug and everyone was getting one, just after I got it fairly. Hence why I no longer use that gun, even for cosmetics or fun...
heavy sparrow
The care package?
heavy sparrow
Was it gold and black?
brazen current
I’ll have to check later,
solid hinge
Guys, how much of a benefit am I to my team if I am mostly, as a scout, spotting enemies from a safe distance? Is that overrated?
brazen current
You’re being more helpful then you think
As a guy who plays support and has a hard time spotting enemies himself, it helps for you to spot them, take potshots, and move.
Plus not many people actually spot so I probably value people like that more then most but still
heavy sparrow
Medic and support are the biggest benefits to your team
solid hinge
I love to annoy the enemy with my Trench Periscope, but I am not sure if it is of significant help, right. Don't want to be that scout that no one likes to have in his team