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@viral perch The bitchiest part of Soissons in Operations is that final sector. The train station.
It's basically a lighter version oh Brusilov.
operations is amazing when you have a team who knows what their doing, but when you have a team full of retards, its incredibly frustrating
still fun i guess, but incredibly frustrating
like im spamming GO GO GO in the commo rose to everyone while theyre just sitting back shooting at the enemy instead of actually trying to cap the objectives
youll notice after your team loses a battalion or two everyone loses morale like a real war, and they are less motivated to rush ahead
and the fight really starts losing momentum
Operations is made or broken on a team
If your team is retarded GG you aren't gonna have a good time
If you team is competent is the best game mode even against an equal or better team
I held three battalions on the second sector of Sossions up at the church by using the field guns and repairing them when they got taken out
Three battalions and two Char 2C tanks and well held it. Fuck was such a good game (maybe not for the other team but the majority of them did try; shame they had selfish players who took the available armour and spawned arty trucks or worse mortar trucks)
In addition to firepower being not to be for the current job needed and only holding one person it's armour is thin and easy as shit to take out
Plus one less body on the objective would could've turned the tide
absolutely 100%
when everyone understands that Ops is a team based effort it becomes the most fun game mode
seeing medics and supports working together and assaults charging the objective, tanks helping out etc it all just works seamlessly
everything i do in ops is team based. if i see 2 attack plane farmers raping my team, ill jump up in a fighter and shoot them both down to give my team some breathing room
when im in cavalry i see some field guns raping my teams tanks (which is vital to the operation) ill flank them and target them, ill also clean up all the enemy hill humpers
the difference it makes is huge. but unfortunately a lot of people just treat Ops like a shooting gallery instead of the fact that a team needs momentum
Conquest? TDM, Operations? TDM, any other mode.... TDM. 😵
tried tdm a few times i didnt like it tbh
doesnt suit battlefield
conquest on fort de vaux is the ultimate team deathmatch
Most of the retard people on that matches, play TDM.
tdm is super rare in my region, theres only ever one match of tdm
and 30+ conquest servers
rush is basically dead
havent seeen one of those for a while
My region is 99% Conquest, so you have like 20 players in a team playing TDM and being rape every single time for like 5 hours.
yaeh theres only ever one server of tdm and its like 21/24 players
😢 600-700 players average in peak hours.
dice adding ops to the server browser really did help fix the player shortage problem
theres at least 3 ops on every night
Hello guys i am new player of the Battlefield 1
Can anyone tell how do i get attachments
like scopes
@atomic moth there isn't any attachments that you can add on to the weapons. You can change the iron sights and magnification on the weapons under Customize Soldier
Yes, there was an update for the 2nd half of the Turning Tides expansion, and some other updates/changes
TY
https://youtu.be/hufRfrKFzw0?t=2h25m14s @solid hinge True Teamwork Vs meh Team
You're welcome @atomic moth 
Can i report hacker here, or?
best thing is to report through the cheaters own origin profile
when i try that, it opens origin and nothing happen, circle just spining and white background
have you tried going through the Origin Application
in game app?
through this
1.89mb/sec 
yeah, it's bad

nopee, how to man?
Friends ---> add a friend ---> search name ---> click arrow by add friend ---> report user
^ what he said

okkk, tnx dudes ❤
it's pretty oof material
Been there, brochacho
i could just use my phones internet to download
would be faster
but im in no hurry
phone gets me like 7mbps
🤔
which is still bad
but better
I only get 10 
did they release the patch notes
I should be getting 5mbps.
Dear Philippine ISP's. Please go suck a fucking dick and die.
Why the fuck is my download speed 900kbps?
You fucks.
@solid hinge it will be posted in #game-news when the notes are available
Wait wit
How can I get average 30mbps dl in the Aussie outback whilst you guys get that dl speed
HOL UP
Thanks!
Man, I was recently upgraded to like 2mbps and I was really happy
Now I have read this chat and I'm sad
No server balancing it seems ...a few games we lost all objectives and had to watch as the game counted down....yikes....and it was quite quick too...then people leave coz they cant spawn and it ends up with 4 of us versus 32...Yikes not sure this was the plan 😃

I did not notice any changes to weapons....but I am no gamer demon just a regular dude
you should though
try out M1903 Experimental
it's an absolute beast now, alongside with M1917 TC (not like they were bad before the patch...)
will try again tomorrow...
Lmao new ttk patch didn't balance shite
Fucking called it since Sep
"Hey lets buff everything together so the weaker weapons are still behind the strong weapons even though the whole point of this was to make Te weaker weapons a better choice"
genius
dice la please stop
Go make your own battlefield
Stop screwing up Dice SE's work
I don't understand why they buffed parabellum
easily the nost powerful automatic weapon in the gams
goes and enjoys his Kolibri
Pls nerf.
@iron flint
9.63MB a sec
I would kill for that speed.
The TTK patch in a nutshell is a total farce
Dice la have no idea wtf they are doing
"Hey we gave the Hel slightly more recoil but also reduced its btk from 5 to 4. That should get the smgs usage spread"
no it did not. You fucking morons
The only reason people use Hellriegel is because of that 60 rounds
the only way to balance the Hel is to remove the additional mag and make the magazine a 20 round stick mag
Otherwise there's better options
Hel is just too forgiving and a crutch that works everywhere verytime
That goes for basically every smg
except smg 08
it was advertised to be super accurate
Mp18 is decent all rounder and so it should be
but it's actually garbo, mp18 is even more accurate
Automatico is Spray and pray but it has recoil, shitty sights and low magazine size
DLC smgs it's difficult to compare as not everyone has them
Maxim 08/18 is just a worse Hel with 200rpm slower for 20 extra rounds
and worse accuracy too
Ribeye is essentially a proto AR but limited by muzzle flash for some and mag size
the recoil might not be anything, but the spread is god awful
P.12 is a pocket Automatico with painful reload if caught out and ridiculous fire rate
1917 trench carbine is a m1903 exp for assault which tbh is a good fit
Yeah maxims spread is awful
Literally the only thing it's good for is flanking only because of its magazine capacity
Other then that it gets out dps by every other assault weapon
I liked using it
If it had better spread
But up against the "metal it gets destroyed
that thing would be worth using a lot
This ducking phone I swear
At the same time it can't be a better weapon then vanilla weapons
Else the p2w crowd chuck a fit
Even though those exact same people literally buy shortcut kits
I mean it's accuracy just you need to pretend it's a pocket LMG really
That's worse then all LMGs
yeah, but lmg's are more accurate
And have better damage at range
Once again things get over looked in this stupid hashed TTK patch
Big fat one
Cavalry
G
O
Y
Nerfed so fucking by it
And no one even released except the few who saw how fucked the TTK patch actually QA
*was
My god this fucking phone
Honestly
things could've been done better
oh but we buffed the rifle to 2hk out to 90m and 1hk headshot out to 84m
Yeah because that helps us in close quarters
close quarters?
And you don't even let us change our magnification to make use of the fucking longer range
Plus any cunt that hops on a horse gets that "buff"
use da Martini
I would've given more buffs to smg08, accuracy-wise
everyone needs a good martini
TTK patch should never have existed
People will still use Hel, bar, 1916 because they are easy mode
what did you expect?
1916?
some people dont go on reddit or youtube
Fedorav has kinda taken over
so they dont know that their weapons of choice have changed
But that's by medic tryhards who miss bf4 assault
15/20 headshots.
🤔
for which gun?
How many 100 star Hels do you see out there and they continue to use it even when new content drops
Fedorav btk is the same as Cei
whaaa, no @jolly quartz . Cei Rigotti kills in 3-4 bullets
They both kill in the same bullets
Fedorav has a bigger mag that is detachable
That's all it's got going for it
As the Cei has a full auto mode too
Hence I find it assuming so many tryhard it
They've had the Cei the entire time
Yet never used it
Cei Rigotti is great
1906 is kinda useless for me, i kill one guy, have to switch to a pistol
I would pick AL 8. 35 over it, better ttk and a faster reload time
1906 is more accurate though
But after this patch the AL8 is the second best slr
1906 is bottom tier now
I've got to try it out though , people have been saying that it has no recoil now
The worst thing that will ever happen while playing Operations is getting your attack bogged down.
Preventing you from utilizing the momentum of your team's attack to make a quick attempt at capturing a sector.
Yeah when you lose momentum you are pretty much fucked
Which tbh is fairly accurate
1906 snipe is worthless really
Unless you like sniping as a medic
Even then mondragon sniper is a better choice
Launch a North Sea assault with the new content of Battlefield 1 Turning Tides in January 2018, including the Heligoland Bight and Zeebrugge maps, the Britis...
Not knocking twoscotsmen's work I really enjoy it but come on dice; are you seriously that lazy you can't even make a trailer?
Lol
someone wants bf4
@atomic moth No selling accounts.
It's also against EA's ToS
Everyone's is selling accs
Doesn't matter what everyone else is doing, it's against EA's ToS which this server follow and is therefore restricted on this server.
Go be stupid somewhere else
I am not stupid
ye whatever
Mod
Sprays, it says so above the text I'm writing
Because it's a good set of rules.
And because all of you have agreed to it anyway
So there shouldn't be an issue there
I think you people are too lazy to make up rules
Huh? We have our own rules too.
Ok
I think it would e a great addition to add accaunt selling
That's already included in EA's ToS
You guys are just saying stroong "NO" to improvments
What do you want us to improve?
You can add CHAT where you can negoitate and sell or exchange accaunts
in order to avoid scamming you could give trusted person a role named MIDDLEMAN
like trading chat
What are you not undestanding with "It is against EA's ToS"
Because we are a Battlefield server
No, this is community run
Yes
Lot of people would love to have trading server

Alrighty then, Trading is against the ToS of EA as you probably heard already
if caught the account will be terminated
we're not doing here
not now
and never
TLDR; ^^
How the heck is Ea gonna find out that we are selling accaunts
They have their ways. This discussion ends here.
where the bloody patch notes at, mate?
Soon™

when they're published
I love how people were bashing the Northern Shores trailer just because DICE didn't do it
Really supportive community here in BF1
leave the job to the community because we are lazy
anyone speak spanish herre?
PENTA-HormigaZ can help you @knotty orbit
@solid hinge Or maybe they wanted to let a community member's work shine 
Not everything has to be about laziness ya know
no it's a sign of laziness for me
when a company has to use it's community for a trailer
You do realize making a trailer could cost thousands?
wow
TTK patch is perfect so far. No more hellreigel cheese....
it's nothing for EA
Well if someone is spending time on making a trailer, they arent able to be working on something else, maybe they needed their time elsewhere cough cough BF 2018
@solid hinge could you help me?
I don't speak spanish
Is the air superiority game mode? coming with apocalypse
Yes
@knotty orbit I have already told you PENTA-HormigaZ can help you
can you mention him please?
@sleek tartan
thanks
is the browning good with the new update?
Dunno, which one of them do you mean?
Yeah, lmg's are extremely powerful
Haven't tried any though, just played a round with smg 08 and M1917 TC
the one with 250 rounds
That's nice! I feel like lmgs with higher damage will make them more consistent
idk I feel like they're weaker now
The bar is still good
God I hate Achi Baba
"You know that annoying lighting change we added in the French DLC that makes it impossible to see out of a window because its too bright? Yeah lets put that filter over an entire map"
?
I am not liking Heligoland Bight as much as I want to.
Also, the last headshot I needed for the Ribeye was achieved via hipfire in a smoke screen.
did the patches release pn all platforms?
Like 6hrs ago
There's nothing wrong with the trailer
Just the fact it's an official trailer that was made by a community member
And it felt like spectating CTE not a trailer
Compare the previous TT trailer to this one and it's night and day
So many things that can't be done in game but make a trailer much more impressive
E.g. The costal guns together, more people in a y lighter, two Dreadnoughts and heaps of landing craft
It's lazy
Can't wait for the fan made apocaplsye trailer -.-
have the weapon stats been updated
Yes, the new weapon patch is in effect.
Incursions is on console, right?
no
hout optical is so good
Lots of guns are really good now
I was worried that medics would be left in the dust by this patch
I had no idea how wrong I would be
new bf in oct, rip bf1 oof
I havent played the new patch yet but from what I've read, I'm pretty hyped to try it out.
just salty that they delayed the russan dlc for 6 months and let the game die
Delayed?

Welp 🤷
Do u know tho
I don't use shotguns
But yes, they were inconsistent before, not sure if they got fixed this patch
Well, if anyone knows plz tell me. Model 10 was a one hit kill but in the past few months something happened. Like, I've been seeing the model 10 a lot less recently so I'm guessing something did go wrong. Like, when someone would shoot me with the model 10 it sounded like I was getting shot with an smg :/
Thnx
That noise has been fixed from what I've heard
Where is sounds like you're being shot with all the pellets at once
*it
Yeah, I believe that's been taken care of this Update/Patch
You're welcome
"Fixed an issue causing shotgun damage and audio to be spread across multiple frames."
Not embeded
The TTK changed
Yeah i read. I thought killing with the LMGs in close range be harder cause of the buffs for Assault players, but it turns out it's a lot easier now. This what made me soo confused.
It wasn't necessarily to flat-out make LMGs harder at close range. Moreso the case that you tend to lose a duel with an Assault or Medic if you're both reaching to aim at each other at around the same time. But I think that has more to do with how Medic and Assault were changed than Support
from the 5 or so minutes i got to experience of heligoland, i really liked it, but i really wish every TUTI server wasnt fucking full with 5 queues and the only time u can get in is at the very end of the round with 990 tickets and then u think, hey, at least ill get to play Zeebrugge, and then the only options are achi baba and cape helles
ffs
happened 7 times in a row, spent 30 or so minutes just queuing only to have to quit out again
I like how I can somewhat spam medic rifles when I need to in close quarters without making a halo of bullets around my target
feels easier to pace targets at longer ranges as well
Autoloading has become ridiculousy good @merry ivy
This Partch is bad and dice la should feel bad
I don't like that they buffed parabellum, and left smg08 with no advantages, basically chaning nothing
Parabellum is still godlike and better than all lmg's, and smg 08 is just kind of there
just had a 4 loss streak after booting up the game to play some today
at least only 2 of them were total spawntrap rapes
Me, too.
parabellum would be insane if it had better heat up time
you just gotta place your shots good
or go rambo and get super close
I have a tech question...Is it ok the delete the BF1 trial.exe thing or is that part of the game files?
Actually i do not know about that
hm...
rip
Good job dice the Hellriegel is even worse now
IM SEEING THESE FUCKERS EVERYWHERE
Am I high or is it even worse now

By worse I meant overpowered
As in this thing is killing me faster then I can say “Nani the fuck”
dead serious
It is a very forgiving weapon that's easy to use.
yep
If it had the ~20 round stick mag instead you'd see a lot less of it
And good accuracy
and damage
Although the new patch increased it
LOL
and swap times
Who needs to reload when you've got 60 rounds 
The main reason I like it is because if its RoF, it gives it a good ttk
for most
100 Star Hellriegels make me convulse
Yeah there's nothing that can save it except for a fire-rate increase. And they're never going to do that
TTK is still too slow
well, if it had good spread on it's side
450 rpm for an assault weapon? That's just asking for a bad gun
you would be hitting a lot nore shots
more consistently than other smgs
which would balance out the bad ttk
Would it be enough to make it viable?
yes
imo
the spread is just stopping it from being effective
i do better hitting shots with mp18
Hmm, can't really see that. It would have to be something I'd have to see for myself
Play around with smg08
I have, I die and die lol
you will notice what difference the spread makes
if it had less of it, it would be a laser beam
Yeah I noticed the spread, which is weird since it's a closed-bolt gun
It should be way lower
as of right now, the bullets go everywhere except the location it's supposed to go to

or a trench variant instead of a factory
this gun is actually effective when hipfired, but it's more of a gamble than an effective tactic
since it has terrible hip spread
Or storm? That would give it better spread
there's an idea
But no, we surely wanted an optical variant 
I'm not a fan of factory variants
they become unusable while supressed
*which is basically all the time
Well factory variants are just the gun without any buffs.
Any variant besides factory is going to be better
Except for the faster time from recoil recovery
nope factory variants have decreased SIPS
sips? 
oh 
recoil is the kickback from the weapon spread is the cone the bullet will rng within
Isn't that because it's closed-bolt?
Also I am dying much faster when I’m on a horse then before
Did they nerf it or something?
Also their effective range before damage drop-off start.
At least they didn’t mess with bolt action senpai
Also can the tank hunter be my husbando
gewher? Ore Gewehr.... i live in Germany xD I know the Words of the guns and meanings too! Well actually I m ftom Turkey but i live in Germany and i know all the different words of Battlefield
also what is with assaults being able to 100-0 a tank in seconds
this isnt BF4 where we have tons of MBTs
AT Mines also do 50% more damage now. Before you needed two of them, now one mine can almost take out your tank
Yee, must spread them out
I have saved friendly tanks from AT mines countless times
its like they don't even look in front of themselves
Most just look for the kill and not try to save themselves. Even when you spot some they ignore them.
Shotguns are fixed!!! My baby model 10 is back yaaaaasssss
If you're on Xbox
Get fucked
I will kill u
And t bag u


I wonder if the 12g Automatic is good now
Or it’s still the same shit it’s been from day 1
all shotguns should have a lot more consistent spread now
I think the audio is fixed as well, where it sounded like you were being shot with all pellets
yep
Anyone know if there is a way to check the progress of the Service Assignments without jumping out of a game?
Doesn't it usually show in the Customize Screen as well, when you're in a match choosing your weapons and what not for your Class? 🤔
I don't remember.
I know it shows the weapon assignments while you're in a match, but I don't remember if it shows the Service Assignments or not.
Ok, thanks. I see where you can track them from the Main Menu and can only track one Service Assignment.
Yeah, you can see them in the main menu
Would be nice if they added a screen in between maps that you can see what your progression is on the Service Assignments. Maybe in a future update or something. Thanks for the replies!!
..Am I the only one that can't quite grasp why people on the sub-reddit are saying Support is dead? It's felt pretty good for me so far this patch. Granted I've always leaned towards a 'post up and suppress' style of play on LMGs anyway.
Wait don't tell me
These are the BAR Supports talking, aren't they?
I mean I like the BAR as much as the next Support main but I'm not gonna pretend I'm terribly upset over LMGs now handling like actual LMGs.
Since you've got me curious, I'll have to give it a go next map. I can actually see it being fine as a single-fire since its damage drops less severely than any other LMGs apart from the Benet
Well, as long as you bi-pod, possibly.
@violet locust what is that
The weapon skin?
Is that a fanart?
From the new Easter Egg
It's pretty simple to do
Alright so I've played a few rounds now with the BAR Telescopic (at the suggestion of someone else on here) and personally it actually feels pretty good as a single-fire/short burst weapon if you're using the bi-pod. Nice mid-ranged damage. Kicks like a mule without the bi-pod but that seems like a fair trade.
Heligoland Bight might be my least favorite BF map of them all.
This whole update is bogus
The maps run worse than the game already did.
There's some lazy parts. The turrets on the landing craft don't show the shield in first person when you man the turrets.
Shitting out this and Apocalypse so they can hurry up and rush out whatever the next BF is.
Blame the player base.
It perplexes me how you can make and fix BF4 and then this game comes out.
If only people would be less jerk-y when they made criticisms, then they'd probably actually be motivated to make this game properly.
Imagine if that's how things worked.
To be fair, fixing BF4 was DICE LA. Not DICE Sweden.
EA seems to think so.
Where's DICE LA when you need them?
I hope they're working on BF2/5/2143/1944/whatever.
Maybe if people's criticisms were actually constructive and not derogatory, maybe DICE developers would be willing to fix this.
Cause if someone only made ass criticisms of something I worked on, I'd just finish it as fast as possible and then work on something else.
It's up to the fans to act nice for a dev to remember basic features included in their previous game.
That works for me too. The sooner we're off this heap of a game, the better.
But what do I know? Everyone's an asshole.
Also, going with that mindset doesn't really help in improving your skill.
Because then you'll be less likely to have an idea of what's wrong with your work.
Crossing out text 
Yeah I don't get it.
I call it subtly trying to be less of an asshole in trying to make a point. That means I'm also being sarcastic.
Lost me
Then you don't have enough sarcasm and cynicism in life.
The Royal Marines outfits look beautiful.
Looking closely, every single class in the Royal Marines is actually a white guy.
thank god
All you have to do is examine their facial structures.
the latest battlepack is called the "vehicles and sidearms" revision and yet theres no new destroyer skins
i havent seen any of the locked destroyer skins in a single battlepack rotation since turning tides first dropped
i wonder if thats their excuse for continuing to push out the same old dumb revisions instead of making new ones that actually have cool skins in them
funfact dice LA has taken the reins for bf1 since May i believe
also the shields for the boat guns were removed in December for the user so you could actually see what you were doing
a great change
the shields still exist just not from the perspective of the gunners using them
I wouldnt say dice la fixed bf4
if anythingn made it worse
lol wat
except for vehicle whores
bf1 is proof that dice la needs to stay away from battlefield
either develop their own or do something else
rather then screw up a perfectly good game
trouble also is they only have experiance in modern shooters
case in point this stupid ttk patch
They did save BF4
I would call making the game playable, fixing the game
^
Improved the netcode, added lots of free dlc, community map project etc.
the list goes on and on
Yet still god awful compared to hardline
They added 3 free maps that were dead within a week
And 5 weapons no one used
Whoopty de dii
Bf4 was playable when dice la took over
"I wouldnt say dice la fixed bf4"
"Bf4 was playable when dice la took over"
Meaning that it was in a playable state when they took the reins
🙄
Not it suddenly became playable when they took over
I don't think the ttk changes are bad, but things could've been done better
as always

Good news
Dice is buffing Calvary
They can heal themselves with medical pouches and have more health
They always could
Not while you're on the horse
They're making it so you can heal yourself while on the horse
No if you were on a horse and dropped a med pouch it would he you
you could heal on horse as long as you hit the pack
No
it didnt heal the horse
Syringe should res a horse. That would be amazing.
hell yeah
@pulsar valve I wouldn’t call a game with AEK, FAMAS and MTAR playable
The gadget spam is severe as ever too last I played
Also, everything must be tapfired
ok
This patch really sucks for aggressive scouts
scouts aren't meant to be aggressive -.-
are the servers down rn?
They’re up for me
Still haven't even played the new update for BF1 
what'd they do to snipers?
Nothing
I feel like all this patch means for PTFO Scouts is an emphasis on pistols and more measured movements towards quiet areas of the objective.
emphasis on pistols when pistols basicly got nerfed
yep
If you can get the drop on someone they've been fine for me. And a PTFO Scout is almost assuredly running Spot Flare anyway so they should be getting the drop on people.
As a scout I usually stay around objectives and try to find people putting their heads out like idiots 
Many people dont expect me to put a bullet through the side of their heads 
I got my first SS with the 10A hunter. It's easier to play with ime
picking up automatico is just instant do well for me, its really stupid how easy that weapon is
Yuup
@hearty skiff
Automatico
instand do well
Lol wut
i think you can correct one letter yourself 
but here you go, instant*
wait
you were the one that typo'd
BrokeBack
what im saying is that automatico never fails
pick up smokes, push on the point, kills as long as you can reload faste enough before the next lamb walks to the slaughter
Next Battlefield releases in October, is this true?
Any more information? Such as setting?
nope
Nope
what about the bad company 3 rumour
Hope it’s true
Hope they focus more on the comedy like in bad company 1
Single player wise
And have the insane destruction of 2
How confident are we that it's a lootbox simulator
we can hope
i mean 110% its gona have loot boxes
theres no point in making a game without them
That statement is really controversial, mate
its not
its the rules
of videogame making
cause the investors will be asking "Well why is this game, making 5x what our game is making?"
Developers sign NDAs so they're not allowed to speak about the new release
cause it has loot boxes
they'd simply lose their job is they did leak info
if you dont add loot boxes at start, they will be added later
Are you in video game development?
example they added loot boxes to Ghost Recon Wildlands just a few days ago
you cant even earn those boxes with ingame actions, just buy
ubisoft is really pushing loot boxes too
wildlands can not be earn; only bought with actual money
nope, i am not, just my take on this. and this seems to be very true
upcoming siege event new lootpacks again only available for real money
yet ubisoft recieves zero flak for it whilst battlefront 2 is taboo even though it doesnt have ms
Nonetheless, I don't believe that it's a rule for a video game to have loot boxes
it didn't
and they matchmaking put you against people who were better equipped than you, to push you into buying boxes
¯_(ツ)_/¯
5.3m on your grenade isnt an advantange
Take Monster Hunter World for start
its becoming one if it isnt already
and thats not how the matchmaking works
thats from a patent that activision submitted for cod
ive matched with people without cards and with cards
battlefront system was clearly flawed since the boycott was so huge
wah boba fett has astar card that reduces all damage wah!
that doesnt really matter anymore. the boxes are coming back now
he has a star cards that reduces 2% of damage whilst JETPACKING
oh yeah, gettting all heros was locked behind crates 
umm not it wasnt
you could use credits or wahtever
that you earn from playing the game
yeah
people had unlocked vader already in the ea access trials
less then 10 hours to earn 60k credits
I look forward to the next Battlefield, I haven't played this series for about 2 installments, will be checking out the reviews and how impacting MTX has on the game
im worried if their dlc model will be this new 'Free' live service or still premium package
Battlefied so far has done well with mtx, wil see how it goes
bf actually has worse ms then swbf2 ever had
shortcut kits
i see so many level 0 assaults with Hels its sad
who cares, thats their choice
¯_(ツ)_/¯
shortcut kits were never something i gave a damn about
Do they have any significant advantage over you?
I like how BF3 worked, the default weapon was considered one of the best, therefore what you unlocked doesn't really put you above others
Im not really bothered about the shortcut dlc
by the logic that star cards give you an unfair advantage then yes
Everything is so fast to unlock
Hel is literally one of the best weapons in game and they BUFFED IT
shortcut kits are just fine imo
only way to balance it is to give it a 20 round stick mag
yet lootcrates in swbf2 arent?

i can open the same weapons as them really fast 
besides i dont like alot of the weapons people say are best
honestly alot of the weapons feel on par
they are literally PAYING to unlock actual weapons before you
So it's technically pay to win?
not have a spin on the wheel of chance to maybe get a 2% increase in recharge speed for an ability they wont use
technically its semi p2w
because you can unlock it normally
but its evident in the amount of assault shortcut kits bought that they were buying it specficly to unlock the hel straight up
now why would they do that
thats the thing, i dont wana have everything behind lottery. yes theres credits you can earn playing, but in BF1 context i can work for the same OP weapons in matters of few hours of playing
same with the star cards
you can craft them yourself and upgrade rather then play rng and hope you get what you wantr
and it was during rocket launch ability
clearly people disagreed
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i didnt buy the game cause i heard it was very boring
plus you cant get tier 4 cards from the crate
don't listen to him he clearly has no clue what he is talking about
then why are you talking about something you dont own?
doesnt even know what the cards do
theres literally a card for starfighters that made your fire rate 20% faster
but not p2w
“Dice friend”
over people who actually own the game

i guess they were all wrong
explains it all
but there are cards that counter others
i didnt say you were wrong Thonk
but you need to buy those too so
i never said i was right Thonk
e.g. the reinfoced hull gave more protection then the damage upgrade does
when u try to diminish the cards effects to 2%
doesn't matter if u own 100 copies of the game or not
a lie is a lie
whats a lie
that the cards effect are a mere 2% gain
you have looked at every single card rigth?
thermal detonator for example
tier 1 - 5m
tier 4 - 6m
WOAH
i have looked at enough cards to know there are cards way more powerful than that
like what
theres one card taht icnreases flash duration by 4 seconds
4 seconds in a FPS
is avery very long time
that flash is awful regardless of cards
and i already gave u the example of the +20% fire rate
of which other cards can counter
plus having cards doesnt automatically turn you into darth vader 2.0
other cards that you also would have to buy
scrubs will be scrubs and good players will dominate regardless
you techniaclly have to buy all the cards
its like saying that fifa isnt p2w because you can buy a defender with real money to counter ronaldo

either through rng on the crate or crafting specific ones
execpt this is SWBF2 and the star cards arent p2w plus you cant phyiscally buy them with real money?
plenty of people did
but that doesnt automatically make them good
and they are chumps
experiance will beat star cards anyday
plus whos to say they didnt even get any of the 'good/meta' cards?
oh yay i got tier 3 brawler from a crate! now to never use it because its a useless card
this is the mindset of someone who doesnt understand competition
if FaZe weapons shot 20% faster that would have beaten c9 last major
at a competitive level even the tiniest advantage is very significant
so i dont understand competition in a casual shooter because i understand how the star cards work?

and you think 'competitve' lmao wouldnt run the same cards?
dafuq r u talking about
why bring up competitve in a casual shooter that has no competitve scene
its not about a scene
its about how a tiny advantage matters when 2 good players face each other
and you think star cards all the be all to end all?
not experiance
ability
or you know anything else in an thirstpersonshooter
they r an advantage, you're just strawmanning now cuz u cant deny
obviously they literally buff your weapons or abilities
which spolier alert ANYONE CAN GET
they arent free
wow 2% buff omg p2w!
by that logic people who have 1000 hours played p2w against players just starting
so you havent looked at every star card than
and im making strawman arguments
Is it still a good time to play BF4
Do you like bf4?
I tried Origin game time and I thought it's mediocre
if you like it sure
But that was years ago
if not i wouldnt really
pretty sure you can pick it up for $5 in store or something
or just get origin access and play it
Does it have that medic distance feature BF1 has
You know, when you die, you see a medic distance counter
Lol battlefront 2 is pay to win lmfao
Hey crab don’t give ea any while you’re busy sucking their dick
you cant see any medics near you unless you physically see their character model in the kill card running around
Because I said so!
be nice if the medic counter in bf1 was tranfered back some battlefields
its an underated feature
@sinful rover so i should just let misinformation and ignorance slide?
Implying that swbf2 isn’t pay to win
its not
if swbf2 is p2w than some games are getting that label too including battlefield
cough Darth Vader would take 40 hours to unlock cough
people unlocked him in under 10 hours
people who used loot boxes
Because you get currency from the loot boxes
hi I've just joined, is there no help channel?
and you can buy them with money
yeah daily ones and if you get dulipcates
if you seriously were gonna buy $100s of worth crates to attempt to get enough credits to unlock the heroes then you arent winning
thats the first ive heard of but they bought lootboxes to do it
got any actual proof for that jimmy?
people did the maths
10 hours for 60k is doable
you’re gonna keep strawmanning eh
so my issue is no matter what I try I can't connect to battlefield 1 servers and everytime I restart the game I have to play the tutorial mission it sucks
every other game plays fine
what platform?
pc
hmmm
Unlocked every swbf2 hero in 20 hours
nah just checked battlefield 4 same issue
If swbf2 is pay to win then what are games like gta
Pay to demolish
Pay to decimate with 0% chance to counter
hmmm im on xbox so i can't confirm if pc EA servers are down sorry
no worries
I also unlocked every hero in swbf2 within the first five days I had the game lol
I honestly wish the characters cost more so we don't see 6 heros running around every GA game lol
It's quite ridiculous
People cried and moaned "waaaaaah we want progression" now they get it and it's "omfg dice make dis pay2win, you demons!" Lmfao
"We wunt fwee dlc"
@jolly quartz That feature alone is the reason that I thought about buying BF1 even though the setting wasn't my taste
"Omfg micwotransaction!!!"
as a medic i love it
Me too
even though this scrub @runic meteor hates my smoke spot revives
seeing incoming medics is props one of the best feelings in a video game
When I spring back to life I want to be able to see who is blindly firing into me
So I can return da favor
no i need cover to revive your ass in the middle of bum fuck nowhere with no cover
hey i got 20% speed boost to you and me when i revive now
So only BF1 has this feature?


