battlefield-legacy-titles

[bronze portal]

It was goofy

[solid hinge]

I don’t have any nostalgia or emotional connection because I was a toddler when the original modern warfare games came out

[bronze portal]

You can camo grind with the worst guns

And have fun

You do that in modern cod and its just a nightmare

[solid hinge]

I don’t really care for cod snymore

[bronze portal]

Complexity doesnt equal fun

Fun comes from the core mechanics of the game

Cod used to know whats fun

[solid hinge]

If the cod franchise ceased to exist I wouldnt care

Wouldn’t affect me in the slightest

[bronze portal]

Well for younger players such as you

The impact i dare to presume is less

[solid hinge]

I grew up playing cod btw I played bo3 advanced warfare and infinite warfare (shitty Jetpack era)

[bronze portal]

Halo, cod, potentially battlefield. The only real franchises i love that stays of great quality to this day since my childhood is soulslike games

Halo 3 days…

[tropic folio]

i mean fair enough me neither, i've bought like 2 cods in the last 6 years

[bronze portal]

REMEMBER REACH

[solid hinge]

I wish there were more original ips

Fresh ideas

I feel like there are no good games coming out

[bronze portal]

Gears of war was great

Borderlands

[solid hinge]

No new ghost recon games

[bronze portal]

Dragon age

Fable

[tropic folio]

they exist, just not from the studios that already have a massive franchise to milk

this year is actually looking really good for new ips

[bronze portal]

Indie games have greater quality these days

[solid hinge]

When I get a new ps5 I might check them out

[bronze portal]

BBR could have been so much bigger but the devs literally threw their game

[solid hinge]

Have you guys ever played ghost recon

[tropic folio]

oh have i

[bronze portal]

Tom clancy?

Ofc man

[solid hinge]

Yea

[tropic folio]

back when they weren't open world

[solid hinge]

I love that franchise but Ubisoft is a terrible terrible company

They are so lazy

[solid hinge]

I like it being open world

[tropic folio]

future soldier was so good

[bronze portal]

My first GR was advanced warfighter

Lmao

[solid hinge]

But Ubisoft is lazy and incompetent

And has terrible quality control

[tropic folio]

ac shadows is actually huge for them, you can tell they've realised that things aren't going well lol

[bronze portal]

They fucked up rainbow six into some OW garbage lmao

[tropic folio]

seriously

[solid hinge]

I thought that game is a flop

[tropic folio]

i remember when it was an actual rainbow six game

[tropic folio]

that's what all the chuds want people to think

[solid hinge]

Rainbow six siege is so trash

I wish rainbow six patriots came out

[bronze portal]

It really was fun in the beginning man

When operators were realistic

Now its fucking OW

[tropic folio]

ac shadows already got 3 million players and it's only going up, and the game itself is really fun and polished

[solid hinge]

Also the e3 trailer was so much better

It downgraded a lot

[bronze portal]

Im very half half about that game

While i am a more of a gameplay centered player, i do care about history as well as how well it is portrayed

[solid hinge]

I want Ubisoft to go bankrupt so a more competent company can fire all of their management

[bronze portal]

I must say a black samurai was not my expectation, but the game looks really fun

[tropic folio]

i was until i saw gameplay from someone who wasn't a journalist. The combat is amazing

[bronze portal]

If it goes in sale ill buy it

MH wilds is all i play as of rn lol

[tropic folio]

you can get it on the ubi subscription for like 15 bucks i think

[solid hinge]

Wrong company

Whoops

I don’t want ea to go bankrupt

[tropic folio]

that's possible, tencent is watching very closely

[solid hinge]

That’s why I hope ac shadow flops

I’m praying on ubisofts downfall

[bronze portal]

I would like them to decline enough to realize player retention comes from fun and not some garbage like skins, shitty live service content dripfeeding

[tropic folio]

kind of stupid to hope a game flops when a lot of people's actual livelihoods depend on it

[solid hinge]

So it can be revived as a somewhat competent company

[bronze portal]

And let developers and player communities to create games together

Which is what labs is doing

[tropic folio]

it feels like that's what's happening with ac shadows. They delayed it and made sure it was polished on release, and now i'd say it's probably the most polished game this year

[solid hinge]

While that is true

[tropic folio]

having such a well optimised and non-buggy experience with a AAA game in 2025 was surprising

[bronze portal]

Proof that journalist opinions are not given any fucks if the game is FUN

[solid hinge]

If they keep producing low quality stuff they can and will be laid off regardless

[bronze portal]

thats all a game needs to be; fun

Good optimization is a huge plus

[solid hinge]

But if Ubisoft gets a reality check

[tropic folio]

absolutely, and there's no shortage of fun here. I haven't enjoyed ac this much since origins

[hollow quiver]

When are the next round of Labs invites going out?

[tropic folio]

i hear it runs decently well on the steam deck as well

[tropic folio]

nobody knows

[hollow quiver]

Anyone here got an invite yet?

[tropic folio]

if they did they can't say

[solid hinge]

I can’t even participate because I sold my ps5 2 years ago but im gonna buy another one soon

[solid hinge]

If you enjoy the game man that’s awesome I’m glad your having fun

I just want Ubisoft to come to their senses

And produce quality over quantity

[summer forge]

I just miss ezio level fun

[solid hinge]

It’s kind of like what happened with 2042 it had to fail so dice could wake up

[summer forge]

Black flag was great gameplay, ezio was top tier lore

[solid hinge]

What are some things that you guys hope will be in the next battlefield

[summer forge]

Map destruction and bring back Squad points

[solid hinge]

I hope their will be a large assortment of modern firearms like the new ngsw weapons and germanys new hk416

[tropic folio]

fortification

[solid hinge]

Also faction specific colors

[tropic folio]

grabbing health and ammo from a player would be good too

[solid hinge]

I agree

[solid hinge]

I think that’s coming tho

[summer forge]

Bringing back ammo/Heath stations

Bring back the squad point system for call ins and such

[solid hinge]

Which is awesome

Best thing dice has done in years

I hope we will have cool realistic cosmetics

Heavy emphasis on the “realistic” part

No Batman skins in battlefield please

Also a lot of cool vehicles to play around with

I’d they could add some sort of faction that’s kind of like Russia but not after launch with Russian vehicles maybe they could be cool but I understand they don’t went to get embroiled with all of the drama and conflict so they’re sticking either way the pax armada faction for now

NATO and the pmc

[gray cypress]

Me 😏 BF6?

[open saffron]

Do we get more exp in FnB?

[summer forge]

Don’t think so

[solid hinge]

I am stuck on the "connecting" screen to the multiplayer menu of BF1

I can send a screenshot in dms if anyone wants

Not a wifi Issue as I have three bars so I should be good

[winged sable]

Why, on God’s green Earth, would you be connected via WiFi?

Hardline your shit bro.

[teal fractal]

Infantry centered maps (with a lot of options and angles), good enough movement and easy to master for it to be fun for casuals too, hopefully good weapon balance, i want it to have good visibility

[woeful marlin]

Infantry centered yes, but also with the bigger maps for large scale vehicle combat, I hope they aren’t too open like 2042’s maps or BF4’s Golmud Railway. It’s boring.

[teal fractal]

I hope there will be balanced matchmaking

[teal fractal]

Well yeah its bf its bound to have large scale maps

[woeful marlin]

Yes, but as long as they mostly ain’t heavily open fields.

[teal fractal]

Hope domination, frontlines, rush make it back

[woeful marlin]

If there is, at least have good fighting places for infantry

[teal fractal]

Well it most likely will be

Because thats every large bf map

[woeful marlin]

Then just have good places that infantry can fight.

[teal fractal]

Its dice it wont happen lol

Theyll find a lot of RNG elements to make sure you lose your gunfights in some way

Theyll also make it slow and boring

If scout cant kill you from 400 meters away then its not a real experience etc etc

[woeful marlin]

I like how I’m highly anticipated for this game like it’s gonna come out soon… at most we got a year.

I gotta find some things I can do in the meantime.

[summer forge]

Hamada is a good example

[woeful marlin]

BF4 is great rn as a new experience, but it ain’t gone hold for long playing it constantly every day.

[woeful marlin]

I fucking hate Hamada.

It’s a cool map, I just hate it.

[summer forge]

Al Sudan is anther love/hate map

[woeful marlin]

Exactly

[summer forge]

Al Sudan though has more of a mix

[woeful marlin]

That’s why I like it a little more.

[summer forge]

Aerodrome though is the better style of big map

The only downside is if you’re playing against people who know tanks. Then it’s a nightmare.

But for infantry mostly, Aerodrome is great

[woeful marlin]

I can’t wait to see the CoD “movement demons” so I can strafe them with an attack helicopter.

[teal fractal]

Aerodome is the only decent large map in bf5

It has reasonable engagement downtimes

It just has extremely bad balance

[teal fractal]

Why do people keep calling bf players that use movement “cod players”

[summer forge]

You’ll tell me “no” as you always do, but on a decent game Iwa Jima is weirdly a good map

[teal fractal]

Bf was more mechanically demanding than cod at its time

[woeful marlin]

I’m not talking about the BF players that use movement. I’m talking about the fresh players coming from CoD that’ll be introduced to battlefield with this next title. Movement is fine with me in battlefield.

[teal fractal]

Now it might be the opposite/around same interms of mechanical skill gap with 42 but the only game that didnt really have any movement was 1

Its the only lemon out of the bunch

[teal fractal]

Fair

[woeful marlin]

Mhm. I wonder what the freshies new to battlefield will think of the battlefield formula. I’m excited for a new player base coming in.

[teal fractal]

It has bad teambalance aswell but the engagements play out betrer and it has much better flow than a lot of the larger maps yes

Another reason why bf5s larger map suck so much is its visibility

[summer forge]

He didn’t tell me no… I’m shocked

[teal fractal]

You cant make a game where practically everythings invisible regardless of the graphics settings

[summer forge]

Tbh Aerodrome is my only true favorite large map

[teal fractal]

Have extremely large maps with a lot of vegetation*

[summer forge]

Hamada and Iwa Jima probably tie for second

[teal fractal]

Theyll enjoy it but youll see them talk about it being hard and maybe too tactical like usual

Battlefields key element is always positioning tied with movement

[woeful marlin]

Literally have a cousin in law who tried Battlefield and said he didn’t like it cuz the maps are too big…

[winged sable]

Give me Seine Crossing

[teal fractal]

Cod doesnt really require good positioning because of the way that the average players play in the lobbies

They just zerg into each other

No thought

[winged sable]

At least CoD players, on average, have some level of brain activity.

[summer forge]

Just throw them on Narvik or Devastation

[teal fractal]

A lot of the maps are too big i think 5 and 4 fell in victim to it heavily

42 aswell

[winged sable]

The average BFBoomer… no brain activity is detected.

[summer forge]

Wait what??? 😂😂😂

[teal fractal]

Idk its all braindead gameplay to me

Its more fun to play against though yeah

Id 100% play against people that do something

Rather than like 10 freaks proned in a corner in metro or something

Or in battlefield 4 gatekeeping chokes heavily

[winged sable]

Yes, but you need have brain activity to spastically spam buttons, but the average BFBoomie tends to think that BF is a milsim and should be played slow.

[teal fractal]

Or well any bf game really

[teal fractal]

I cant tell whats more stupid honestly

[winged sable]

Just look at the BF subreddit and you’ll have your answer.

[teal fractal]

Either some soulless pencilneck button smashing and getting a lucky button click on you or some pleb on accident killing you with something in an x position

[summer forge]

I don’t milsim, but do the thing that’s apparently really wrong and take objectives

[winged sable]

PTFOing is correct, but you can’t take an obj if you can’t kill the enemy.

[teal fractal]

I cant look at it im convinced its pure rage bait

[winged sable]

Genuine.

[summer forge]

I definitely kill too

[teal fractal]

I dont think any of those players mean or know what they talk about there

[summer forge]

I’m on console though and apparently we suck and are irrelevant

[teal fractal]

I had 3 people jump on me and talk about win ratio being more important than anything else

[winged sable]

This is true.

[teal fractal]

Its a lost cause honestly

[summer forge]

Guess it’s time console players quit

Leave it all to the PC people

[winged sable]

Or plug in a mouse and keyboard.

[teal fractal]

Console players just cant talk about what the majority experience in the game

[summer forge]

I like a controller/trigger

[teal fractal]

Next battlefield needs mouse and keyboard

[teal fractal]

Itll still be an option

I imagine that practically every console player will play on keyboard and mouse if its crossplay again though

[winged sable]

Honestly, the only opinion of console players that are valid is saying they don’t want aim assist.

[teal fractal]

Which it most likely will be

[winged sable]

Let them FAFO

[woeful marlin]

I’m just happy we’ve got 47 weapons so far and it’s only Pre-Alpha. I’m feeling we might get close to BF4 levels of weapon content 🙂

[teal fractal]

“Give us more recoil”

Ye nah you dont want pc recoil on controller

[winged sable]

Just let them FAFO.

[summer forge]

Ok honest question, until I go mkb should I just leave the Discord?

[teal fractal]

For what

[winged sable]

That’s on you, but a good KBM set is like $60.

[summer forge]

Is it even allowed on console without be labeled cheating?

[winged sable]

Yes.

It is supported by

[summer forge]

That’s a shock

[teal fractal]

Battlefield games dont support mouse and keyboard

So its cheating

[winged sable]

You’re joking?

[teal fractal]

No

They are forced to play controller 💔

[summer forge]

I’ll let you two argue it out

[winged sable]

KBM support for FPS on console has been normal since MW19.

[woeful marlin]

Unrelated, but Do y’all really think BF6 will be delayed by GTA?

[teal fractal]

Idk why they never added support for it

It makes 0 sense on a crossplay game

[winged sable]

Neurodeficient question.

[woeful marlin]

I am have are autism delectably.

[teal fractal]

Youd stleast expect it to be added during patching and in the life span of the game

[winged sable]

Same, but I have more XP.

[woeful marlin]

Valid, carry on.

[winged sable]

True.

And not that dogshit 125hz shit either.

[teal fractal]

These 2 arent even remotely related

[winged sable]

Let them use GOOD shit.

[summer forge]

So it’s not supported?

[teal fractal]

Lol no

[woeful marlin]

But in all seriousness, Bf4 released alongside GTA5 and it seemed fine.

[winged sable]

#battlefield-legacy-titles message

[summer forge]

So back to previous question, until I get a PC should I leave the Discord

[woeful marlin]

No

[winged sable]

Your own decision, but PC only gets bigger.

[woeful marlin]

I’ll add to that, no because I like u around, u r friend

[teal fractal]

Idk random leave

Doesnt really effect anything if you leave or stay

[woeful marlin]

Then fine, I’ll just expect that if everything goes well, we’ll get a release this year.

[woeful marlin]

It affects me 🥲

[teal fractal]

I dont expect a release this year

I think next year is more likely

[woeful marlin]

Whatever you say, pickle man, I’ll take your word for it.

[teal fractal]

Well its pre alpha and we are trying to figure out battlefields identity crisis

[woeful marlin]

Indeed.

[winged sable]

BF only has an ID crisis to people who joined at BF1.

BF2 stans know that movement has ALWAYS been implemented.

[woeful marlin]

I joined during BF3, so I get what it is.

[teal fractal]

Its with everyone i feel like

Bf4 players that played during the time it was more casual and far less players used the movement mechanics properly

Bf5 practically no one uses the movement mechanics in that game

[winged sable]

BFV has good movement, imo.

[teal fractal]

I love the omni slide theres something really satisfying about it

Crouch run was random imo

I never use it personally

[winged sable]

True.

[teal fractal]

/havent found use for it

[signal niche]

Command not found

havent is not a valid command.

Use the help command to see the list of all commands.

[winged sable]

I liked it personally because it messed with head positioning while sprinting.

[teal fractal]

Then i think the animation from going on your back and your stomach shouldnt be a thing it makes a weird effect in 5 and kind of disorts the player model

[winged sable]

Yeah.

Frostbite Jank.

[woeful marlin]

Assuming playtests happen every 2 weeks, the next one should be April 4th I think, right?

Cant wait.

[teal fractal]

Yeah the animations from 1 thing to the other were yank

Ngl i feel like this time even if battlefield is trying to make a good battlefield the players will just ruin it

[woeful marlin]

I’ve been waiting for David Sirland to say some more things on X. He hasn’t made any posts or replies since March 23rd. Been wanting more info outta him.

[teal fractal]

Well its within testing phase so you cant really confirm what will be in the game

Its just bound to have changes so its nothing certain

[woeful marlin]

My favorite response from his was when a dude literally said “Hi David, I’m Eric, Will this game have the multiplayer mode?” And David was just like “Hi Eric, Yes it will”

God Bless David Sirland.

[teal fractal]

Battlefield players drool on themselves i think

And suck on their thumbs

Like wtf

[woeful marlin]

Can confirm, I am fieldbattle player and I suck on my thumb as an emotional support pacifier.

I want to play BF4 more, but I also want to go to sleep…
hmmmmm. decisions, decisions.

It’s 11:12PM. hmm.

God this is hard.

[winged sable]

Go to sleep.

[woeful marlin]

I might drink a Pepsi to help me sleep, I need it.

[winged sable]

Cringe

Drink water.

[woeful marlin]

I haven’t drank water in a couple months now. Longest I did was like 2 years I think, Idfk. I just don’t really drink water. I drink like 11 cans of Pepsi everyday.

How am I alive? nobody knows.

How have I never had a kidney stone? Nobody knows.

And how are my teeth perfectly fine? Nobody knows.

Oh yes, and how do I not have diabetes? Nobody knows.

Other than the fact that I’m 5”8’ and about 106lbs, and don’t gain weight no matter how much I eat. Or the fact I was born in 6 months instead of 9 and almost friggin died if not for the tubes and IV’s running through my head to my toes in an incubator for about 7 weeks in the hospital. And I still look and function like a seemingly normal human being. So how am I here, since November of 2004? Nobody knows. Pretty gnarly, ig.

But to answer your question. No, I will not drink water.

I’m fine.

[hollow quiver]

Nowhere in the NDA does it say you can't admit you were invited. Just that you can't discuss the content of the test or post footage.

[strange river]

Can you still play bf labs or is the play test done?

[hasty marsh]

Honestly with how much has leaked I wonder if they will just announce it

[woeful marlin]

Playtests only last 2 hours and the 1st was March 7th and the 2nd was March 21st, exactly 2 weeks apart, so you can likely expect the next one to take place April 4th.

[carmine salmon]

Bit of a weird question to ask I'm pretty sure
So I got BF2042 on the recent spring discount and I've tried for little under two hours
the game feels fine but somehow kinda floaty at the same time, I've played BF4\HL\1\V previously (on console) and they didn't feel nearly as weird as 2042 does (I really don't know how to explain it)
the thing is, I'm also new to PC, and where I'm living it is significant if I, perchance, refund 2042 and get V instead of it
should I do that considering I also owned BF4\1 on PC?

[teal fractal]

Might just be the broken mouse input of the game

[teal fractal]

What region btw

Like na or eu

[carmine salmon]

You mean the clicks themselves or the input in general?

[teal fractal]

Inputs ingeneral

They are engine level broken in 42

[carmine salmon]

EU
Technically middle east but eu is closest to me (Egypt)

[teal fractal]

And you already own 1?

[carmine salmon]

I thought it felt weird, honestly

[carmine salmon]

I bought them together on the discount
Thought I might want to jump back into 1 someday

[teal fractal]

Because its broken kekw its extremely difficult to aim in it because you need to fight the inputs lag of the game

[jolly fog]

Can't use MnK on console tho?

[carmine salmon]

That's why it felt floaty

[jolly fog]

At least for BF

[teal fractal]

Id say start with 1 its better if youre new on keyboard and mouse

[carmine salmon]

Makes sense
But you think I should switch 42 for V like I said or just stick to 42

[teal fractal]

I really disliked 5 personally so id stick to 42 lol

But 42 isnt a great game either

Idk every game bf has is like a 5/10

[carmine salmon]

True
I mean it could be because I also came into 42 with the negative stuff in mind so I was kinda looking for them

[teal fractal]

Good enough to have fun but theres just a lot of slop involved

[teal fractal]

I just try not to pay attention to it

Also the worse your mouse is the worse it is to play bf42

My gaming mouse broke i had to switch to a 10 year old “gaming mouse” i bought for 15 euros as a kid lol

And the input lag is way more noticable on a bad sensor

[carmine salmon]

That's a valid point, I do have a weird mouse called pictek, it does have pretty impressive specs for the price but mainly my hand doesn't feel cramped after a while so that's why I kept it

Could also be because I play alone most of the time
The lack of a squad in general does have an effect

I got relatively small hands

[carmine salmon]

That was supposed to be in the first sentence lol

[teal fractal]

Yeah then dont get 5 id say

5 is infested with players that stack in squads and spawn trap lobbies

[carmine salmon]

That sentence has so many cursed aspects to it it's just scary

[teal fractal]

I have 38% winrate and im within top 40-50 in bf5

Purely because the lobbies are insufferable

Entire team neg kd whilist 4-5 players farm the entire lobby in enemy team

[carmine salmon]

It's settled then
I'm sticking with 42 and 1
Oh I forgot, I also got 4 on my account lol

[teal fractal]

The community servers might be playable but i cant vouch for them havent had the chance to play them

[carmine salmon]

Understandable

[teal fractal]

4s pacing is way too fast for a new mk user

It also basically requires you to know maps and glitches to have a decent experience

[hasty marsh]

It really doesnt in my experience

[carmine salmon]

A new challenger approaches:

Dude came in with a phoenix wright "Objection!!!"

[teal fractal]

Idk i cant get past 2-4kpm and lose a lot of fights against glitchers

A lot of peak players glitch anyway so

[carmine salmon]

Now I know what you meant with the "every battlefield is a mess" thing

Literally each one has at least one finiky point to it

[teal fractal]

Battlefield 1 has the best community and playability with decent gunplay mechanics but its just kind of boring to play

And its also riddled with bad mechanics and bugs and just yeah

Its not very good

[carmine salmon]

Just how it's nature is I guess

Oh btw
What region are you?

[teal fractal]

Eu

[carmine salmon]

You uhhh
You free rn?

[teal fractal]

Nah probably wont be til later in the evening

[hasty marsh]

1 is goated.
It has a lot of wierd mechanics but once you get the hang of them there is a lot more depth than people give credit.
It also lets you captain a dreadnought

[teal fractal]

There isnt

Bf1 has the least amount of depth interms of gameplay mechanics

[carmine salmon]

I'll probably be there if you need a dude to laugh at in game
42 to be specific

[carmine salmon]

While that's technically a flaw, it's the most accessable

[teal fractal]

And i have 1.4k hours in bf1 4-5kpm player with an average of 4kd so its within top 10-20

I understand the mechanics fairly well

[teal fractal]

Yep

[hasty marsh]

But has the most in terms of decision making. Because BF1 puts the most limits on the player, both in movement and class balance, which forces you to make tradeoffs that you dont have to make in other bf games.
Out of all of them, 1 easily has me switching out my kit and trying to coordinate iwht other players the most.

While 4 is just kind of a "fuck around for 40 minutes" type game.

[teal fractal]

Other games have equal amount of decision making

They just have less bad mechanics

In some things anyway

[teal fractal]

It isnt

[hasty marsh]

Not really. Rarely in 4 have I ever asked "Oh how do I solve this problem" in a way I have in 1

[teal fractal]

Yeah but its the same

It might be purely because bf1 doesnt really require more than just good positioning

And timing

Whilist other battlefields required that and a little more mechanical skill

[winged sable]

You didn’t read more of the backlogs.

[hasty marsh]

It puts a lot more pressure on that, especially cause 4 guns are kinda piss easy to use

[teal fractal]

Like in any other game except for 5

[winged sable]

DICE should have never nerfed the BF1 Slide

I am not sorry.

[teal fractal]

Arguably 42 because of mouse input lag but mechanically no

[winged sable]

At this point, I think the input lag is intentional.

[hasty marsh]

Saying 42 is hardest cause of input lag is like saying the game would take more skill if you had to play while being attacked by rats lmao

[thorn grotto]

yo, it seems like type 100's mastery 4 assignment is not working in combined arms, is that normal? (it doesnt state anything about pvp or objective areas, just get kills from less than 30 meters

[teal fractal]

Doesnt take more skill its just harder to play because the engine is broken

[hasty marsh]

yeah. rip

5 I feel has a lot of interesting ideas but never made a cohesive game out of them

It feels like someone took BF1, BF2, and BF Heroes and shoved them in a blender

[teal fractal]

5 is idk

Id like it way more if it didnt have spread to recoil conversion

And decent matchmaking balance

[winged sable]

V is the result of DICE smoking the WW1 pack and thinking that the WW2 pack was going sell.

[hasty marsh]

V would have been miles better if it was just BF1 with a ww2 paint

[winged sable]

God no.

BF1, in some ways, is a worse atrocity of the series than 2042.

[teal fractal]

You started with playing bf1?

[hasty marsh]

I started playing with 4, then got into 2 for a while. BF1 just really grew on my over the years

[teal fractal]

Its my most played battlefield and i agree 100%

The game is just not good

But thats with a lot of battlefield games

Like all i want is just good maps

[winged sable]

BF1 essentially deleted skill gap and rewarded milsim play.

Unironically, BF1 was the closest to a milsim.

[teal fractal]

I wouldnt go that far

[hasty marsh]

Youre smoking crack if you think BF1 plays like a milsim

[winged sable]

And YOU'RE smoking meth if you think that BFV would've been better if it was BF1, but WW2.

[teal fractal]

Its closer than other titles but its very very far from milsim still

[winged sable]

I'm of the opinion of the only reason why people do not like a fast BF game is because of ||skill issues||.

[hasty marsh]

Regardless of your opinion on 1, it would have at the very least had a coherent vision for the game.
If anything doomed 5 it was a lack of direction

[teal fractal]

Lack of direction has been an ongoing issue for 9 years

[winged sable]

^true

[hasty marsh]

This smells a lot like an opinion generated by the recent movement discourse rather than anything from actually playing the game.

[winged sable]

Look at it this way..

BF1 killed the franchise for veterans.

But

Made it accessible to new comers.

[hasty marsh]

For the franchise as a whole maybe, but most BF games have a specific direction

[hasty marsh]

Ima be real, 4 is not harder than 1. Like at all.

[winged sable]

Never stated this.

[hasty marsh]

then what do you mean by more accessible?

[winged sable]

I'm saying that BF1 spat in the face of people loyal to the franchise.

Even more so than the BF4 launch did.

[teal fractal]

Eh idk

I think thats a far stretch

[hasty marsh]

really smells like a manufactured hate ngl

[jolly fog]

Oh okay

[teal fractal]

The only people who didnt really enjoy bf1 were just bf4 players that want to have more movement options in the game

But bf1s playerbase is much larger than 4s

[jolly fog]

MnK should be an option tho if crossplay is a thing

for console

[teal fractal]

And within activity its also the largest

So it delivered the most despite the lack of skill it mightve taken

And even if it takes less skill than bf games that required some movement mechanics to be good at id still consider it a game that majority of people will struggle to fully master

[winged sable]

My problem is just that it removed a core component of Battlefield that makes it so.

[teal fractal]

Battlefield just needs a middleground for these types of players

[winged sable]

It deviates more from the core components than 2042.

[hasty marsh]

nooooooo they should not this is how you get 5. Focus on a vision for a game and execute on it.

[teal fractal]

Simple enough movement for mostly everyone to be able to master it, grounded enough for you to not meed to move well inorder to still play good but with enough mechanics to master to keep players that want something more mechanical interested

[hasty marsh]

whats the core component in question?

[winged sable]

Neurodefficent take.

[winged sable]

Movement.

As much as people are spazzing out....

Battlefield has always had movement.

BF2, 3 and 4 all had movement.

[hasty marsh]

Oh so this is absolutely a take generated just by the recent discourse got it

[winged sable]

Even barring 4's glitches.

I've always had this opinion.

Since 1.

[gentle plover]

100%, BF1 is the biggest departure in the mainline franchise and they aimed for pleasing a completely new audience instead of their dedicated playerbase.

[teal fractal]

I think the people that are shitting on people over movement are equally over reacting to people that want less movement

Both playerbases are kind of stupid in that sense

[gentle plover]

And then they doubled down on the casual audience further with the strafe and slide changes.

[hasty marsh]

Frankly I have seen more thought terminating cliche's from them.

[teal fractal]

Regardless of the movement mechanics of 5 and 42 its still a positioning biased game

[winged sable]

I'll make this simple.

[teal fractal]

And takes equally as little skill as 1

[winged sable]

If you are of the opinion that Battlefield has never had movement, you are genuinely brain dead.

[woeful marlin]

This was a post on X.

User: “Humble suggestion: please listen be careful in taking advice. A lot of advice will naturally be all over the place as people seek their preferred shooters with a BF skin on top (and this includes everyone from milsim fans to CoD fans). BF is its own thing with its own feel.”

David Sirland’s response: “Of course. We've been down this track a couple of times before. Both BF4 CTE and BF1 CTE. Thanks for the concern though!”

Extra from David Sirland, another reply to somebody: “It also doesnt mean feedback becomes what drives development. We use equal amounts of feedback, data and confirmation connected to the goals we have for our various design areas. Some of these we'll rewamp based on outcomes - but a majority we'll hone the balance of.”

They DO have a vision for what they want the game to be and will execute on it.

[teal fractal]

Thats just a factually wrong take

Like theres no argument in it

I dont think players disagree with it they just dont want it for whatever reason

Majority of players never even use any of the movement mechanics

[winged sable]

Then these are not Battlefielders.

[hasty marsh]

Yes, this is a good sign. Its good game design fundamentals, which feel like theyve either been lacking or hampered in recent bf titles.

[teal fractal]

The only battlefield game where you see any movement mechanics being used and played correctly is 4

[winged sable]

Incorrect.

2 and 3 have movement.

[hasty marsh]

Well theres the dolphin dive in bf2 but everyone hates that

[teal fractal]

You wont see it because those games are dead

[hasty marsh]

2 is suprisingly still alive

despite it being abandonware

[teal fractal]

Im talking about currently active

[winged sable]

I'm old enough to remember the movement.

I remember guides getting posted on YT for BF2.

[teal fractal]

We are all aware of them

But bf2 and 3 are just dead

[winged sable]

Yes, they are.

[hasty marsh]

Rip 2, you will be missed

[teal fractal]

No one plays it so you wont really experience it

So 4 is pretty much the only game where any decent players reside still

[winged sable]

No, they won't experience it.

[woeful marlin]

@teal fractal important question bro, can I has a pickle?

[hasty marsh]

"they"
Lmao dude you need to get some fresh air

[woeful marlin]

B R E A T H A I R

[teal fractal]

Ye we are far past bf2 and 3 and 4 is pretty much acient history atp

[hasty marsh]

respirate

[teal fractal]

Not very good to be hard stuck on older games

[winged sable]

I'm not stuck on them, but you need to look at the history of the franchise to know it core components.

[woeful marlin]

I N H A L E E X H A L E R E P E A T

[hasty marsh]

hard disagree. If a game still has players and is still good then its worth your time.

[teal fractal]

I know the core components im not disagreeing but i just think a lot of people are very hard stuck on how older games played back then

We will never have that again

Its over

[woeful marlin]

Indeed

I still want my pickle

[winged sable]

I know we won't have it again.

[teal fractal]

So its kind of a stupid ask to beg for that same thing

And “movement players” are over reacting because theres only 1 game since bf2 that hasnt had any real movement

[winged sable]

I'm not asking for the same thing.

Probably so.

[teal fractal]

Like they are hyperfixated on a single game when every other game had movement and we are all well aware

[hasty marsh]

the entire discourse has devolved into a sludge and half the time people agrue on a stance they agree with

[winged sable]

To that point.

[teal fractal]

People also had bf2 players complain about movement then

[winged sable]

It does have the largest playerbase.

[teal fractal]

Bf3 players complajned about movement

4 etc etc

Its a never ending thing

[winged sable]

And guess what?

[teal fractal]

It will always be a thing

[winged sable]

^

[teal fractal]

So its just meaningless to preach it

People who listen will listen those who wont they wont

[hasty marsh]

dolphin diving was particuarly obnoxious in 2 tbf, and I dont recall anyone acutally missing it

[proper rover]

All I care about is battlefield 6 battle royale mode and long as it have movement then no complaints from me

[woeful marlin]

I’m most excited for the HK417 in 6. Seems like a fun Battle Rifle to use.

Also like the AK-205. Modernized AK-74, yeah I’ll take that.

[teal fractal]

If they make a genuinely good free to play battleroyale game it might go extremely well for ea

[woeful marlin]

U think they’ll pull this one off?

[teal fractal]

Lol no

[winged sable]

3rd times the charm?

KEK

[hasty marsh]

theyre really trying to make a new br in the year of our lord 2025 this thing is dead on arrival

[teal fractal]

Theres been 2 attempts they both failed miserably

[proper rover]

It can possibly be good

Lmaoooo

[teal fractal]

It can be yeah

[hasty marsh]

but will it?

[proper rover]

I’ll play it either way

[teal fractal]

If they test it and actually listen to players i cant really see it fail

[winged sable]

Everyone will at least try it.

If it's dogshit, it'll be abandon.

[teal fractal]

If it doesnt sell well in testing then theyll drop it and there wont be a flop

[winged sable]

Easy as that.

[teal fractal]

Yep

So theres no real losses to be had

[hasty marsh]

Im not even sure if I will tbh. I dont think I ever touched hazard zone

[winged sable]

I haven't played it because I'm not going to queue for another 4 hours.

[solid glen]

really bummed out that BF4 runs at 720p on the series x

[hasty marsh]

somehow i doubt we're missing much

[proper rover]

I’m hoping it’s good tho

[woeful marlin]

true, i didn’t think of that

[winged sable]

Upgrade to MasterRace

[teal fractal]

I really disliked the idea of br games so ive never played br games

[solid glen]

only BR I've ever really liked were PUBG and the first year of cod warzone

[winged sable]

I've disliked BR as well, but it appeals to specific spastics.

[hasty marsh]

My main question is, if I want to play a BR, why would I play this one.

[woeful marlin]

Fucking same, but I’ve gotten used to it for playing over a week. It’s not as hard to see people as I thought it would. And also it doesn’t bother me as much appreciating how old the game is anyways.

[winged sable]

Ask EA.

[teal fractal]

I think theres too much cheese and rng elements in those games and its just boring to run around for 40 minutes for a few kills you run into in that time

Thats why i never enjoyed them

[proper rover]

I’m really not much of a battlefield player I’m more cod but I have high hopes for battlefield

[hasty marsh]

I have hopes. Dunno if theyre high. Dunno if they even can be high

[winged sable]

I mean... so long as he doesn't play on console, he should survive.

[teal fractal]

well the next battleifled HAS to be good

[woeful marlin]

If it can get close to BF4 or unlikely even top it, I’d be satisfied.

[teal fractal]

If they flop it the series is pretty fucked i think

[winged sable]

It does, or it'll go the way of MoH.

[woeful marlin]

Exactly.

[teal fractal]

Because itll be the 3rd time they fuck people over

4th actually

[winged sable]

Forgot about Hardline for a moment?

[teal fractal]

But people just enjoyed 1 even though it wasnt like a very good battlefield game

[hasty marsh]

swbf2

[teal fractal]

Oh yeah hardline too

[proper rover]

Hardline was my first battlefield

Love that game

[woeful marlin]

WHAT

[winged sable]

I've been trying to resurrect Hardline, but no luck.

[proper rover]

I played every battlefield after hardline

[upbeat void]

1 wasn’t a good Battlefield game? Definitely a hot take.

[solid glen]

even BF3 has a higher population than hardline

[teal fractal]

After 1.4k hours and playing bf1 at a high level along with other games i could write a bible about why it isnt good

[woeful marlin]

What I’m sayin

[hasty marsh]

Like SWBF2 was a catastrophic screw up for EA because it took a nuke to their future buisness plans.

[solid glen]

BF1 is a great game, but personally I'm not into the WW1 (and WW2) settings in shooters

[woeful marlin]

We’ll just give me ur one biggest reason y, that’s all I really wanna hear.

[solid glen]

i prefer modern/near future setting (og mw trilogy, bo2, ghosts, BF3/4)

[upbeat void]

This is my first time ever talking in this server, heck it’s 1:30 in the morning. And I wasn’t gonna say anything I just randomly opened up this and this is what I see.

[teal fractal]

Like some casual player that doesnt pay attention to what they play wont care but objectively and ideally as a battlefield game there was a lot of players that felt fucked over with 1

[proper rover]

And I hope that they don’t start adding bullshxt skins like cod

[hasty marsh]

BFV Tom Cruise elite skin

[teal fractal]

Regardless of how well bf1 sold and how high its held in regards its filled to the brim with bad mechanics bugs, community wide issues, bad map designs

[woeful marlin]

2042 got really bad backlash for exotic cosmetics and EA backed down with it, and kept cosmetics more military grounded.

[solid glen]

probably not at launch, but i wouldn't be suprised if they're added at some point in its life cycle

[teal fractal]

And bf2,3,4 having movement in it the og players were kind of screwed over expecting that

[solid glen]

i personally want bf v movement to return

[winged sable]

I'm not opposed to cosmetics, even at launch, but they need to be tasteful for a Battlefield game.

[woeful marlin]

It’s literally coming back, with some modernizations that is.

[winged sable]

BF != CoD.

[hasty marsh]

6 movement looks like the pace of 4 with some of the mechanics of V.

[solid glen]

haven't seen any leaks, besides some screenshots don't wanna be spoiled

[teal fractal]

So a player that really hasnt played much of 4 or played it very casually/a player that started on 1 will say something very different to players that started the game from bf2

[hasty marsh]

the floodgates are open dude I wouldnt be trying to avoid spoiler (Not sure how you spoil a multiplayer game anyway)

[woeful marlin]

Respectable. But you don’t really need to…

[upbeat void]

Never found the maps too bad, bugs were never massive in my opinion, honestly the game excelled with the atmosphere in the rugged gameplay of World War 1. Exactly the kind of experience I wanted

[teal fractal]

Both are correct in their own minds but they all just need to sit down on it and settle on a middleground

[teal fractal]

Yeah thats the only thing players mention when they make good remarks

Good graphics

Atmosphere

Ignoring balance issues within team and maps, ignoring a lot of fairly annoying and tedious mechanics

[hasty marsh]

Except me:
BF1's gunplay is unironically good.

[upbeat void]

Good gameplay, fun vehicles, weapons could be a little bland but overall they were fun.

[teal fractal]

The gunplay is good yeah

[solid glen]

i dont really give af about the graphics, even 10 year old games look amazing still, don't want miniscule graphical improvements for terrible optimization in exchange

[teal fractal]

But theres way more mechanics than just gunplay

[hasty marsh]

which ones are you thinking of, if any specifically

[woeful marlin]

no offense, but maybe u just have bad graphics and atmosphere. Ur literally a pickle.

[hasty marsh]

cause 90% of the time its when someone is talking about spread

[teal fractal]

Well the gadgets for example, they were all extremely spammable with very little counter play opportunities

[upbeat void]

Plus the operations game mode was almost perfect in all regards in my opinion (other than maybe sometimes the game would be very one-sided)

[teal fractal]

Sweetspot mechanic was horrible

Then the game has very obvious magnetic grenades

[hasty marsh]

what?

[teal fractal]

Headglitching is pretty broken in 1

Though id say even more so in 5

Theres countless revive bugs

[upbeat void]

I’ve only really ever encountered one. And never anything game breaking.

[teal fractal]

Doesnt have to be game breaking for it to be an issue or an annoyance

[woeful marlin]

@teal fractal how many weapons u expect we gonna get on launch? we’ve got 47 in the pre alpha playtest already (hopefully as launch content)

[teal fractal]

Idk

I dont care aslong as weapon balance is okay

[winged sable]

I expect about 15.

[woeful marlin]

15 😭 we literally got only 22 on 2042 launch

[hasty marsh]

The sweet spot mechanic gets the job done IMO. Since its a ww1 game you need some way to run a bolt action with iron sights effectivley. The sweet spot mechanic does this fairly well, without letting the scout be a close range cannon, and its a great way to make the different rifles feel a bit unique when bolt actions have historically all felt identical.
I dont think it should have been on sniper variants, though. I think that should have been an infantry only mechanic

[winged sable]

Sweetspot was a mistake, and I'm sure a good amount of people agree with that.

Flat out, a mistake.

[woeful marlin]

Eh

[hasty marsh]

Oh I know this one is an unpopular opinion, but I think it works.
V removed it and trying to play with the standard rifle of any faction that isnt the US because of it feels bad.
I wouldnt want it in 6 though.

[woeful marlin]

I hope we get fun feeling optics. 2042’s options of optics are boring.

[hasty marsh]

what exactly makes an optic feel "fun"

[woeful marlin]

And a lot of them don’t even look good on the weapons.

[winged sable]

Don't get me started on 2042 optics.

[woeful marlin]

How they visually look and feel to use.

[hasty marsh]

I guess

[winged sable]

The feel problem is the fact that they are not zero'd to a standard distance.

I think they are all just 0

[hasty marsh]

lmfao why am I not suprised

[winged sable]

I've done testing for at least 15 hours on the R10 on why I wasn't hitting shots with the Bolt Rack.

Turns out... The only 4x is zero'd to 0 meters. 🙂

[teal fractal]

Its a horrible mechanic that just gives worse players a better chance at getting kills and good players to have a thing to heavily abuse

[winged sable]

And that doesn't align with the distance markers on the optic.

[teal fractal]

You cant fight against it

[winged sable]

Anything but the center is not usable.

Literally just use a dot or the TV 2x.

[hasty marsh]

Well theres suppression but you cant exactly fight against a headshot either.

[teal fractal]

Getting sweetspotted by some random lvl 3 scout thats doing nothing his entire game is extremely infurating

[teal fractal]

Suppression is also a horrible mechanic yeah

[winged sable]

Extremely is putting it lightly.

[woeful marlin]

Dude, using the red dot, it looks like your dot is a sticker.

[teal fractal]

Suppression should be purely visual if itll exist at all

[winged sable]

Something something optic projection something something.

[high hare]

On my Xbox one S/x series, how or where do I go to download the beta or is it from one of the existing games?

[winged sable]

Just give the fucking 7x on the R10, Dice.

[high hare]

asking for a friend!?

[woeful marlin]

Could have bin thinner, I don’t like how THICK it is in the small little frame.

[woeful marlin]

Beta?

[winged sable]

JoeShrug

[teal fractal]

A lot of people werent very happy with variation system in 1 either which i didnt particularly care for but i can see people being upset after playing 2,3,4

[hasty marsh]

Suppression is a great way to counter an enemy who is beyond your effective range, as opposed to just never peaking or dying.
I think it should require more deliberate action to proc however. And BF1 in particular does a teribble job of conveying when you are suppressed.
In 6 it seems to be a very quick jerk of your PoV instead of a lingering debuff. Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

[teal fractal]

And hardline

[winged sable]

Hardline had potential.

[woeful marlin]

What are you talking about, my friend?

[winged sable]

If only EA waited out the BF4 lifespan....

[teal fractal]

It just enables the person who reacted first to win a fight regardless if he misses or not

Because him missing makes you miss

[high hare]

Isn’t there a beta for the new game @woeful marlin

[teal fractal]

And you cant move to cover because no movement

[winged sable]

Suppression is a reward for being bad at the game. That's the TL;DR on Suppression.

[high hare]

Sorry for being a virgin… I grew up on the beginning titles hahaa

[teal fractal]

So youre just fucked

[hasty marsh]

which is why I think it needs to be more deliberate. Such as sustained fire, and maybe not be able to be procced by small caliber weapons like smgs

[teal fractal]

It shouldnt exist at all

Its stupid

Or make it visual like 42 has it

42s visual suppression is okay

[winged sable]

Did I just see an argument for suppression?

[hasty marsh]

In every bf game there is a large number of areas where there simply is not cover.

[woeful marlin]

The next battlefield title is currently in pre-alpha, and it seems to have a 2 hour long playtest every 2 weeks on Friday. Only people who have signed up for EA labs and who show interest in the Battlefields testing have the possibility of being invited through email to install it. The next playtest will likely take place Friday, April 4th.

[teal fractal]

Yeah because you for some reason play into areas without cover

Ive discussed this with 100s of bad battlefield players ive “coached”

They all talk about having no cover

There is cover

They just dont use it

[high hare]

You’re a FUCKING LEGEND! 🐐🐐🐐!!! Thank you very much sir!

[woeful marlin]

Np G, god bless

[hasty marsh]

At the end of the day you gotta get from A to B and, especially in 1, that will often mean moving in the open.
It is, at the very least, far more interesting than "there is a sniper here, avoid this entire portion of the map."

[high hare]

What’s your gamertag? Hopefully we can game on the 4th or when the title releases!?

@woeful marlin

[teal fractal]

You say this because you play the game wrong

No offense

[hasty marsh]

I see why people dislike variants. However, because the options are only available in predefined sets, those variants have much more drastic stat differences then you could reasonably make with attachments. I kinda like it

[woeful marlin]

Xbox, MigratoryBee#400. hit me up on any battlefield of either 1, 4, 5, and 2042. Though 2042 performs shit rn on my internet which needs some tweaking to run smoother, my router has issues recently.

[hasty marsh]

Hey man, its another option available. I can keep a sniper pinned and use that to cross a gap, then I havent played the game wrong.

[woeful marlin]

I want friends anyways to play BF with

[high hare]

Keep an eye out for BLACKEYEFIGHTNG

[woeful marlin]

Interesting user

[woeful marlin]

Platform?

[high hare]

Xbox

[woeful marlin]

Now is there supposed to be an “I” in ur user or is it really “BLACKEYEFIGHTNG”

Edit: nvm, I see now.

[hasty marsh]

Like yeah people are right that suppression rewards missing, but that just means its too easy to proc. That doesnt mean the concept is flawed.

[high hare]

No “i” in the ing of fighting

[woeful marlin]

Already noted.

[high hare]

Back in the day when I was doing mma haha

[woeful marlin]

Hell yeah

[high hare]

Yeah… when tapout was the shit… chuck the iceman Lindell, Tito Ortiz those days!

Then pro ball hit and I had to put down the gloves haha

Sent it over brother

[woeful marlin]

Np Gotchya

Added.

[high hare]

Have a great night hombre!

[woeful marlin]

Np man, u too.

[teal fractal]

No its just that because you cant find cover doesnt mean it doesnt exactly exist

Either that or you dont know maps very well yet so you dont really know how to rotate between objectives and know the better playroutes

Keep in mind youre playing a positioning based shooter game so playing around cover and angles is the most essential part of the entire game

I had a player telling me that he cant find any cover in monte grappa i ended up sending him like 30 screenshots within the first 20-30 meters

Of different positions and their angles

[tidal shuttle]

What’s the yap this evening

[teal fractal]

Nothing tbh

[tropic folio]

Sure, it's your account not mine

[tropic vortex]

That's not true

[solid hinge]

Do you need help

[uneven hollow]

they truly need a step by step sentence for people like that like have a lot of examples

[uneven hollow]

[solid hinge]

?

[uneven hollow]

you didn’t even help me

[subtle spear]

Morning...

[brave glacier]

did they solve the shut down problem on bf1??

is it playable?

[royal gull]

I hope Console-PC crossplay is opt-in only this time.

[limber bough]

Default should be opt out

[woeful zodiac]

Is there sniper sway on pc on battlefield 1 if so how do I hold my breath

[stiff jewel]

I hope so too. This is why I play on old gen, to avoid PC.

[tropic folio]

just get good

console players are on average better than pc

[stiff jewel]

I don't need to be better because I usually finish games first with the highest score, most kills, and captured flags. And I'm not a teenager with all the time in the world: family, work, and other hobbies. So I'm fine.

There are a lot of cheaters on PC (look at COD). If I wanted to play on PC, I would. That's why I have a console. Simplicity and peace of mind when faced with cheaters.

I don't care who's better. Simple: if crossplay is forced, my friends and I aren't, we won't buy the game. lol.

This is a typical cyclical discussion.

[tropic folio]

funny how you talk about cheaters and then use a completely different franchise as an example lol

[royal gull]

Crossplay is why movement has become a big issue. Console BF never had movement spam problems

[tropic folio]

it absolutely did

tf lol

[woeful zodiac]

Cod isn’t full of cheaters rn and is pretty easy on pc even with controller. I am usually at top of my leaderboards on cod

[tropic folio]

console players always have this insane view that pc is full of cheaters when you'll be lucky to run into one per month, and even that's rare

[royal gull]

Nah man it was never close to the shit Enders posted in his stupid video on consoles

[stiff jewel]

Exactly. We never had those problems and annoyances. There are people who insist on FORCEDLY mixing them, and I'll never understand why. Just enable optional crossplay (turned off from the start) and that's it. The PC has never needed consoles. Let the players decide how to play.

[royal gull]

PS, XB, Switch on by default. Console players opt in to play with PC

[stiff jewel]

Exactly and simply

easy

[tropic folio]

i mean if it makes the whining stop it's probably a net positive

[stiff jewel]

Hopefully! This is how common sense would prevail over stupidity and no-sense.

[tender sierra]

Howdy yall just came here to ask a question, is bf1 for xbox down rn or something? Whenever I open it up it tells me there's no servers anywhere

Really confused since ive never had this issue before

[woeful zodiac]

Is there sniper sway in bf1

[gentle plover]

Never ask a console player how many cronus have sold

[tropic folio]

lol yeah they act like cheaters don't exist on console too

[teal fractal]

Nah hes not wrong players rarely used vouzou mouzou rouzou

They at most jump peeked

And in 42 they rarely move aswell

But thats why its said that its practically an entirely different game on console

They just play it in a very different manner

[teal fractal]

If you play older titles then play community servers

[tropic folio]

sounds like a skill issue tbh

[teal fractal]

Ye

I can see why console players have that view point

Simple solution would be to remove crossplay

Or give console players mouse and keyboard

[tropic folio]

yeah i guess pc has enough players anyway

[teal fractal]

Crossplay doesnt exist to make the game more active its not necessary

[tender sierra]

Dunno what that means but does anyone have a fix for my server issue? Still can't figure it out tbh

[teal fractal]

It exists so people cross platform can play with eachother

[tender sierra]

And yes I used server browser and nothing was there either

[teal fractal]

Region?

[tender sierra]

Let me check rq, not exactly sure considering I'm located in jamaica but give me a sec and I'll check

Server region is north america

Literally not a single match pops up for me and before today it never did this to me

[teal fractal]

Xbox right

[tender sierra]

Yeah I'm on series s

[teal fractal]

17 servers 539 players 12 in que

Probably some wrong filter settings

Specific maps, specific mode

Maybe server sizes

[tender sierra]

The only filter I've got on is for North america and I never messed with the filter otherwise

[teal fractal]

Weird

[teal fractal]

But try messing with it or reset it all together

[tender sierra]

Wait some weird slots filter was turned on, literally never touched it before but turned it off and all the matches reappeared lmao

Thanks a ton for the help bro

[teal fractal]

Nice nice

[solid hinge]

Agreed

[drowsy copper]

And PC players opt in if they want cross play. Also make certain it actually works. PC had enough players in bf2042 but it wasn’t unusual for it to struggle to find a game if you switched cross play off (might have been fixed long time since I played)

[tropic vortex]

How about you guys just get your own version of the game and we get a console version

Nobody will miss you PC players

[drowsy copper]

And another pathetic post by the toxic kid.

[uneven hollow]

You mean toxic dasher

heh

[tidal shuttle]

Consoles should be separate but I don’t think it’s that deep this newer gen is supposed to be like pc with steam on it

[uneven hollow]

Get it

[tidal shuttle]

There’s already mfs out here w zim

[drowsy copper]

Cross play is a good thing. Gives you the choice. In other games I can be playing on the PC, the wife on laptop and my kid on PS5. Good fun. For BF I think it needs to be off as default.

[opal schooner]

Yeah crossplay is good as long as you have the option to turn it off

As a console player I don't hate playing against PC players, like they def have an advantage but it does make for a nice challenge if I'm in a good mood

[tidal shuttle]

it’s not that deep bf is a meme lol unless your competing for money which 99% aren’t then I don’t see an issue. Cheats on the other hand. Middle finger to you

[opal schooner]

But I'd rather have console crossplay where I play against Playstation just because there are some days where getting fucked over by PC sweats gets really annoying

And obv hackers exist

[tropic vortex]

Playstation vs Xbox lobbies will be popular

It can be the biggest thing in fps history

[uneven hollow]

how about Nintendo

Gotta throw them in somehow

wish I can make a joke without getting a warning

[tidal shuttle]

Just let me in dice

[indigo topaz]

Maybe the wrong channel to ask but is r/Battlefield frozen for anyone else? Can’t see any new comments or posts since yesterday

[hasty marsh]

Yes, but this is another option. If it works, then Im not playing the game wrong.

You seem to be missing the plot a bit

[plucky socket]

in other words this server is a joke xD

[hasty marsh]

thank god please burn that site down entirely

[uneven hollow]

in some ways but will say there’s some things that they need to work on but I will they’re “trying”

but yea there’s a really difference

Like a big one

[plucky socket]

EA just loves censorship ^^

well Americans generally love censorship, that's what I gathered xD

that's not news

[celest ice]

Yo whats up everyone! Long time BF fan here (BF4 for life, it will never die). I just built a PC and got BF4 on PC. I keep getting kicked from matches by punkbuster though? Any tips?

[plucky socket]

you need a punkbuster update I think, usually you can find that in the installation directory of BF4

or head onto https://www.evenbalance.com/ @celest ice to manually update BF4's punkbuster

[rancid heart]

i play in my laptop it has a R7 5k series cpu and an rtx 3050 any settings, in-game settings + OS settings(i use wi11) is required ploxxx tell

[celest ice]

lol what

[brave glacier]

tf ahaha

[celest ice]

thanks!

[tropic folio]

brother is tweaking

[teal fractal]

Eating a sandwich backwards works too it doesnt mean its the right way to eat it

And its not an opinion lol i know theres loads of options for cover

[hasty marsh]

what the hell is eating a sandwhich backwards.
what is a backwards sandwich?

[teal fractal]

Like

[tight rain]

Top of the crust first?

[hasty marsh]

Burrowing into it from the top like a rodent

[teal fractal]

Yes

Like you put all your shit on it and then you flip it around

[hasty marsh]

But regardless, if I use suppression to keep someone from shooting at me, then use that to cross a gap I otherwise wouldnt, then thats just the mechanic as intended. Thats not a wierd or backwards way to use it, thats using suppression to suppress. Thats just playing the game.
(also its an option not an opinion)

Thats like saying smoke grenades are the wrong way to play because theres other forms of concealment.

[languid sinew]

Funny thing you mention that. Had a guy yesterday who called using smokes an abuse and glitch. Guess he wasn't too happy about the 3 flanks on reddacted......

[scenic elm]

Smoke grenades are cheating because you can hide in a bush

[teal fractal]

Well

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

what are they doing on that server 💀
🎬 u/Longbow92

🎬1 · Mar 29, 2025, 6:04 PM

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[teal fractal]

1. Why do you need to cross the map, 2) do you really need to pick that fight 3) what will you do after you cross

Like i cant think of any reason why id want to run through a open field on any map

[tidal shuttle]

Hey battlefield

Bring riot shields back

shi was funny

[teal fractal]

No

[teal fractal]

No

[tidal shuttle]

Let us shoot at the same time too

[teal fractal]

Riots shields should work that if youve held it up for more than 5 seonds itll zap you irl

[tidal shuttle]

Lmao I rarely ran into someone using it but when I did oh did I have the field day

[scenic elm]

I love how every support has a shield in battlefield hardline

[tidal shuttle]

That should be for jet rammers

more of an annoyance

[scenic elm]

They should bring em back so more pepole suffer

[teal fractal]

I hope whoever places claymores sleeps through his alarms

[tidal shuttle]

Me for whoever spamming xm25

[scenic elm]

Spaming XM25 on operation locker and metro is how god intended to be played

[teal fractal]

Idk why they add braindead gadgets into games honestly

[scenic elm]

No one can stop us

[teal fractal]

No one has fun playing against them

[tidal shuttle]

Eod bot

[teal fractal]

Sph launcher is stupid too

[tidal shuttle]

On metro

[scenic elm]

All must suffer

[tidal shuttle]

💀

[hasty marsh]

Speed, and taking an off angle usually.

Heres a quick example off the top of my head: the windmill at the end of St Quentins Scar. The windmill sits on top of a hill, facing onto a road and open plain. There is a rock. Players on top of the hill and windmill have a clear line of sight on almost all approaches.
The attackers have several options. Tanks can force the enemy to fall back from the top of the hill, as can fire from both scouts and support. But theres no trench to sneak through and unless you take a roundabout route on the hill you will always be vulnerable to fire from point B.

In this scenario, why forgo trying to suppress any stray snipers watching the sightline? If you do this you open up a clear route from St Quentins to the windmill.

[teal fractal]

Luckiky bf4 community servers on eu ban xm25 and explosives

[tidal shuttle]

Damn man had it all pre typed in notess

[hasty marsh]

this was just an example fresh in my head from a match a few days ago.

[teal fractal]

Youre talking about ops?

[hasty marsh]

Yeah its an ops match.
Mostly cause a conquest example has many more factor s in play which make it much worse for typing out a hypothetical

[teal fractal]

Just

Shoot him

From an angle

Dead

You dont have to run all the way to the windmill

[scenic elm]

I hate when servers ban items that are not even that usefull

[hasty marsh]

The attackers have several options. Tanks can force the enemy to fall back from the top of the hill, as can fire from both scouts and support. But theres no trench to sneak through and unless you take a roundabout route on the hill you will always be vulnerable to fire from point B.

[teal fractal]

You realize that the last sector the attackers go up an angle right

[hasty marsh]

hold on is point b the windmill or the town next to it?

[teal fractal]

Theres trees and rocks and potholes in that upward angle

[teal fractal]

I assume youre talking about the last objectives windmil

[hasty marsh]

Im saying that the route to the windmill is also vulnerable to fire from the town on the left.

[teal fractal]

If youre talking about the windmil in the middle of the town then whoevers in there is 100% dead anyway

[tidal shuttle]

Man just get in the attack plane and drop a bunch of grenades on they ahh

solves all problems

[teal fractal]

Smokes

[tidal shuttle]

then when you kill them do a aerial tbag(barrel roll)

[hasty marsh]

yeah.
Whats the difference between smokes and suppressing a player?

Im not gonna tell you thats its a required mechanic, just that its a viable one.

[teal fractal]

1 is meaningless 1 provides cover

[hasty marsh]

1 prevents someone from accuratatley shooting at you.

[nova tree]

just put cod movement with mixed up battlefield 4

[teal fractal]

They can still shoot at you like any other player

If i see a red dot and some pleb randomly spraying ill take an angle and pick them out

[tidal shuttle]

Unless you run flir 😎

[hasty marsh]

sure and the spread will hamper that, especially if you are at a range where the player suppresing you cant just shoot you.

[teal fractal]

The thing is you have to counter it some how and youre suppressed because they miss

[languid sinew]

Clearly you never played redacted and to had to run away from an angry swarm of Dozers.

[teal fractal]

But them missing means that youre getting suppressed aswell

So it comes down to who controls spread better

[tidal shuttle]

I hardly touched 42 lol

I was referring to 4

42 is a whole dif beast

[languid sinew]

Yeah, well 2042 had your riot shield and its not very funny xD

[hasty marsh]

depends on the class. The most common case is going to be an automatic weapon vs a bolt action rifle. The latter cannot suppress nearly as well.

[teal fractal]

But yeah garbage mechanic

[teal fractal]

Its always some console player that uses it

[hasty marsh]

Is the riot sheild actually good or is it just a meme kit

[teal fractal]

Both

Its good interms that

[tidal shuttle]

Well man no more specialists

we back to normal ahh classes

[teal fractal]

You cant really do anything if its walking towards you in a straight line

The shield wont break

And you cant shoot feet under

[hasty marsh]

I mean theres a good chance support still gets a riot shield

[languid sinew]

Depends on the map. If you play redacted and you have a dozzer sitting on one of the ziplines leading upwards, your team is pretty much fucked, since dozzer can just one hit you with his shield, and to top it off, they play shotgun too.

[teal fractal]

So in spots with no space youre just dead

[languid sinew]

On open maps its not that good, but if you have a choke point then a good dozer can be a menace.

[teal fractal]

But its a meme kit more of

Like it isnt that useful its just an annoying gadget

[tidal shuttle]

No ziplines hopefully in the next bf. We need a whole lot less vertically and more lanes

Put a stair well or elevator don’t be lazy with ziplines and grapples

[limber bough]

Ziplines open for more creative map design

Since you aren't constrained to elevators and such

[winged mauve]

Hello, just joined this group. looks great. Silly question but is there a way to LFG for a squad

Found it!

[tidal shuttle]

No. Over vertically is bad. Not everyone needs to be on a gd roof lol

[teal fractal]

Ye no ziplines probably means that we wont have people camping in some x spots or will have absurd high ground

[scenic elm]

Ziplines in hardline and BF2 where fine

[tidal shuttle]

Too many mf camping not enough PTFOing 😤

[scenic elm]

Idk whats so wrong with em

In a BF game

[drowsy copper]

They require well designed maps that don’t lead to half the team camping sound bugger all else.

[scenic elm]

Its a playerbase and map issue

[limber bough]

You missed what i said completely

[scenic elm]

Also if Im not mistaken in bf2042 you can ride up a zipline unlike 2 and hardline

[drowsy copper]

Going from memory bf2 exp special forces first had them.

[scenic elm]

Yes sir

Alongside the grapling Hook and CS gas

[tidal shuttle]

we don’t need 16 dudes on a roof make it less then you wonder why one team demolishes the other. Limiting roof/ high ground access will def improve the game

Promotes camping

[raw schooner]

Does anyone know what's happening with the r/battlefield subreddit? Did they lock it because of the datamines?

[scenic elm]

On any map in any BF game if you have a bad team, you WILL have 10 snipers and a tank sitting at spawn trying to snipe pepole

[tidal shuttle]

Well make it less . Make it harder for those 20 snipers

[scenic elm]

Elevation or not

[tidal shuttle]

It’s too easy to do atp just pull a grapple out and sit on a roof. Make it more dif for that style so it’s less incentivized

And rewarding

[scenic elm]

Its been an issue since 1942

Good luck fixing it

[limber bough]

People just use different ways to get elevation

[tidal shuttle]

If you wanna be on a roof you gotta run up a stair well. Takes more time and effort to do that just 1 sec your up there

[limber bough]

Helis and planes exist

[tidal shuttle]

but it’s not infinite you gotta wait a cooldown

There’s a delay

[scenic elm]

Grapling hooks like in 2042 are a bad idea

Tho

[tidal shuttle]

Def

[limber bough]

Doesn't matter, spawn beacon solves the cooldown issue

[tidal shuttle]

true but having easier access to ziplines everywhere just makes it more appealing to be on a mf roof

No one wants to play a game like that

[scenic elm]

Siege of shanghai snipers did not need no zipline

[tidal shuttle]

Vertically is a problem solve it with more lanes

[limber bough]

Sure and i never said give easy access everywhere with ziplines

[tidal shuttle]

it was tolerable lol mfs had to work for it if helis where gone

Then the team was out a heli for a minute 💀

[limber bough]

Every good roof had elevator access or you could just parachute anywhere you wanted if you had the skyscraper flag

[tidal shuttle]

attack chopper was usually pretty good at taking them out anyway . They couldn’t last

Let me see that lone Doritos chip 😤

[heavy sparrow]

who have the 5

[mystic rain]

when can we start testing the new battlefield?

[plucky socket]

just wait and see like everyone else

[teal fractal]

Grapling hook was what made 42 good

[gray cypress]

Battlefield 2042 BF4 Ballistic Shield 🛡

[teal fractal]

42 would be awful to play without it

[minor moon]

Bruh I want bad company 3 so badly

[summer plover]

i just bought battlefield 1 like 2 days ago and every time i try to launch it, it gaves me an error message

"DirectX Error

DirectX function
"m_renderer-> createSwapChain(&swapChainDesc, &swapChainObj)" failed with DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
('The video card has been physically removed from the system, or a driver upgrade for the video card has occurred. ').
GPU: "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop GPU", Driver: 57283.
This error is usually caused by the graphics driver crashing; try installing the latest drivers.
Also, make sure you have a supported graphics card with at least 2GB."

[bronze portal]

grappling hook was never necessary until 2042 came out

it's such a crutch for garbage map design

also, 25 sec cooldown for a simple grapple hook is really dumb. overnerfed imo

meanwhile sundance gets a scatter every like 9 seconds

[plucky socket]

well there was also a grappling hook back in BF2, I think then it was the first time it ever appeared in any BF game

well the Expansion pack of BF2

[bronze portal]

it was also in hardline as a pickup

[teal fractal]

scatter grenade shouldnt exist at all

its the most annoying gadget in the game along with sph launcher