battlefield-legacy-titles

[upper berry]

Your tripping hardcore

R6S have a big problem with console cheaters. Not even MnK situation on console

[vagrant basalt]

That's so cap lmao

[upper berry]

You never played R6 enough

[vagrant basalt]

I have 600 hours

[upper berry]

I play on console and PC. PC lobbies is worse with cheaters. But it’s still bad on console

I have more hrs than you

[vagrant basalt]

It's not bad on console lmfao

[upper berry]

I played since it came out

[vagrant basalt]

I'm dome talking to u

[upper berry]

“Dome”

[vagrant basalt]

"GUYS I'm ass at the game so everyone better then me is cheating" type mf

[upper berry]

How am I ass?

I been playing R6 since day 1

[vagrant basalt]

U probably are if u think console cheating is bad

Which it really isnt

[upper berry]

So cheating is ok on console. Got it

It’s healthy to cheat on console

[vagrant basalt]

Never said it was? Now ur twisting my words cause u are wrong

Got it

[upper berry]

Aimbot, wall hacks, no recoil scripts, AI cheats. Is all good for console. Because it’s not bad?

[vagrant basalt]

This has nothing to do with skill lmao

[upper berry]

You clearly said cheating on console isn’t bad

Tf you mean it’s not bad

It’s good?

[vagrant basalt]

Ong

[limber bough]

You took it very literal

[upper berry]

Clearly you cheat as well to thing it’s ok and it’s not bad for console

[vagrant basalt]

🤣

[vagrant basalt]

Buddy ur twisting my words

[keen jacinth]

Typical pc complainer when they die to a console player

[upper berry]

Never twisted your words

Read what you posted

[upper berry]

I been playing console since Age 5. I played every console so far up to the newest ones

[vagrant basalt]

Console cheating isn't bad meaning their is non to little cheating

[upper berry]

I have over 20 years on console and counting

I know what I’m talking about

[vagrant basalt]

Ur just the typical pc player complaining about aim assist

Ok now ur trolling like the guy in my dms

[upper berry]

Now your adding more to it

Are you good?

[vagrant basalt]

Goodbye

[upper berry]

You seem worked up

Calm down and rethink the situation

[vagrant basalt]

Kinda ironic when u replied to my factual messages u seem heated

[upper berry]

How am I heated. I’m not a female on her monthly

Not not a cat having their monthly

Watch what you type before you post it

[vagrant basalt]

Now ur insulting women bc u got called out got it

[upper berry]

How am I, insulting a woman

I said nothing bad about women in general

[vagrant basalt]

"I'm not a female on her monthly" is basically an insult

[upper berry]

How is that a insult

I’m a male that don’t get periods.

Is that very hard to understand?

[vagrant basalt]

Typical anime pfp who doesn't know what an insult is

[upper berry]

Now you wanna point how anime pfp cuz your losing the argument

English problem, now anime pfp. What else?

Bro acts like he’s top dog of the server and knows everything. Get a life and stay off of Reddit

You hear to much of this person said, that other person said.

[vagrant basalt]

Ur so delusional

Anyways

Bf5 needa map update

[vagrant basalt]

I like how a casual argument is "harrassment"

[wicked tapir]

Any recent news or leaks

[vagrant basalt]

Isn't the new battlefield coming out 2025?

[junior torrent]

If it's not good, not interested

[opal schooner]

Crackpot proposal: Battlefield should go to 5 classes instead of 4

That way Engineer and Medic don't exchange places all the time

[keen jacinth]

I want my JDAm's for my attack jet

1000lb bomb

Buildings shattered

Jets should carry at least 2 JDAMS but a delay drop.

[timid pulsar]

why not replicate BF2 classes?

[opal schooner]

Because gamers today can't handle more complicated systems like that lol, at least not casually

Besides only 5 or 4 alleviates clutter

[thick seal]

because bf3/bf5 style works better. combining things was a good call

[timid pulsar]

The Battlefield 2 classes were pretty simplistic: Special Forces, Sniper, Assault, Support, Engineer, Medic, Anti-tank. What's the issue? I can see why the engineer combines the anti-tank together with it, but what's wrong with medic and assault being separate?

Support was always an ammo provider. Sniper was a sniper.

[opal schooner]

My gripe with how 3 and 4 approach it is that they combine too much to a point where it kinda makes you go "well what?", I'm not the biggest fan of them making medics also the standard infantry despite how much I love Battlefield 3 and 4

[thick seal]

medic can be separate from assault, bc2 did that

assault were explosives and ammo in that game

but it just depends what they're going for

[timid pulsar]

I think DICE wanted reviving to be a universal thing and not tied to a specific class, but when you force a medic to be the only class that can revive, it demands more strategy/thinking when playing the game, if you're a squad leader, you should try to stay alive more often so mates can spawn on you. If you're a medic, you're basically playing a support class, not an aggressor.

BF2 was kinda like team fortress in terms of the class concepts

[thick seal]

from a pure gameplay perspective i think bfv classes were pretty great. but i can also see them going back to bf3

[opal schooner]

I think Assault, Medic, Support, and Recon/Scout is my personal favorite 4-class setup

[timid pulsar]

What is assault supposed to provide as an item to the team?

Medics provide healing/reviving, support provides ammo/anti-tank/armor healing.

Scouts provide radar essentially.

[opal schooner]

Assault is standard infantry rush tactics, and in BFV's case anti-tank

[timid pulsar]

in otherwords, what's Assault's passive skill?

[thick seal]

bfv assaults are the main anti tank

bc2 assaults are the ammo boys

[junior torrent]

we can discard engineer lol

[timid pulsar]

so then support class just does armor healing?

[opal schooner]

It also provides suppression, ammunition, and fortifications (again in BFV's case lololol)

[thick seal]

in a modern context support would have a bunch of fun gadgets that do a variety of things

[opal schooner]

BFV is definitely my personal favorite setup of modern

[thick seal]

i think assault being the anti tank was great, yeah

medics having smgs also worked well

[opal schooner]

If I was making a world war 2 battlefield personally i would give assault smgs, automatic rifles, self-loading rifles, and bolt-action rifles. The medic would have BA rifles, SL rifles, carbine rifles, and pistol carbines. Support would have LMGs, MMGs, Shotguns, and ARs. Recon would have BA rifles, SL rifles, Carbine rifles, and shotguns.

[junior torrent]

me

Id limit each class to 3 or 2 weapon category

[thick seal]

I liked that bfv was more limited

[opal schooner]

I feel like you need some weapon variety

[thick seal]

so change class?

[opal schooner]

But not too much like how you can pick anything in BF2042

Because then they lose their distinctness

[thick seal]

there's a bit of weapon variety within each class, but having too many defeats the idea of a class

[opal schooner]

I think 3 or 4 is a fine balance of that. Plenty of tools at your disposal but not enough to make it too nondescript to where no one knows what they could be up against

[junior torrent]

you obviously know why they did this

[thick seal]

right, but in your case, 3 out of 4 classes would have the zh29 in bfv

that's no bueno

[opal schooner]

Fine by me if the weapons were balanced correctly

Most classes in BF4 had carbines, if not all of them I believe

[junior torrent]

personally, not all should have it

[opal schooner]

And then in 3 they all had the PDWs

[junior torrent]

preserve carbine for engineer or recon

[thick seal]

right, but you're suggesting giving 3/4 classes 6x scoped guns

thats just not right imo

[opal schooner]

Ah-hah, see in my hypothetical only recons can attach scopes lol

Weapon customization operates on certain "specializations" AKA you can give your weapon a certain boost in one area that negatively effects another. Recon is the only class able to select the "sniper" specialization on guns that gives them scopes (for the rifles, anyways)

[thick seal]

bfv without 3x scopes would have been a nightmare

[opal schooner]

I rarely ever use them

Maybe on the Commando Carbine and the M28 I think

[thick seal]

I mean on SARs and LMGs

3x turner on assault was cash money

[opal schooner]

Never used it

I'm an iron sights kinda gal through and through

And then long scopes when I can or for sniper rifles

In BFV, anyways

In 3, 4 and 2042 I'm big fans of Holo sights or Red Dots, sometimes ACOG but it depends

[junior torrent]

anyways

[thick seal]

fair enough. i think you're 100% putting yourself at a big disadvantage in bfv playing like that tho

[opal schooner]

Could totally be possible

[junior torrent]

you got a favorite death screen?

[opal schooner]

Hmm you mean like Killcam?

[junior torrent]

ye

[thick seal]

funny tidbit: a dev once complained about the percentage of players using scopes in bfv. i just wonder how the guy didnt see the clear visibility issues of bfv

[opal schooner]

BFV visibility is weird

I mostly find it fine

But it's weirdly harder to see people than any other game

[junior torrent]

at least the downed cam was better than 2042

lol

[opal schooner]

Either BF3 because of the iconic hand animation or BFV because of how sleek it is and how good the "bleeding out" dialogue and animation is

[junior torrent]

you see for 3, it is weird

when you died standing still

it is somewhat realistic

but died sprinting or in the air

it looks weird lol

[keen jacinth]

Battlefield 3 is just your hand going in the air and you collapse.

[junior torrent]

I mean

[keen jacinth]

I love the blurr effect and ear popping.

[junior torrent]

when you get shot during sprinting

shouldnt your body cam

idk follow here your corpse is

[keen jacinth]

They need to do realistic randomly death animations

[opal schooner]

BF3's sound design my beloved

BF3 and BF1 are imo the best sounding games in the series

[keen jacinth]

Bc2 when you bomb a building and the bass drops.

[junior torrent]

but anywys

favorite spawn screen>

?

[keen jacinth]

Bf hardline

I can finally see when a vehcile is about to be available

[opal schooner]

BFV except for when it randomly breaks and you get softlocked cause that happens sometiems

[keen jacinth]

Instead of buttom spamming

[junior torrent]

plus, wicked ambient

[opal schooner]

Or 2042

[junior torrent]

eww

I dont like 2042 spawn screen

[opal schooner]

Fair enough

[junior torrent]

the overhead map view makes sense in 1 and V context

[opal schooner]

It's all just preference, after all

[junior torrent]

but not 2042

hell no

2042 should have used digital map view

[keen jacinth]

Bfv is debatable, maps that are snowy or bright make it hard to see when your vehicle spawns.

[thick seal]

i hate the zoom in spawn shit

[junior torrent]

just saying

[keen jacinth]

I hated in bfv when you are about to spawn on a teammate but since they are in combat the game forces you back into the deployment screen.

[opal schooner]

I love the zoom in spawn cause it makes it smoother and less jarring

[junior torrent]

but anywways

the chinese team in 4 was wicked

very cool

[thick seal]

it was obnoxious in that game for sure

zoom in zoom out simulator

[keen jacinth]

Bfv had the best explosion effects.

[timid pulsar]

I just reference back to BF2. Between BF4 and 2042, I honestly skipped all the BF games between. I'm fatigued by WW2 games. Just give me a realistic modern warfare Battlefield game.

[keen jacinth]

The whistle of a cruise missile as it glides towards its target would be cool, intercepting the missile and depending where you blow it up will effect that area.

[thick seal]

2042's particle effects are like the one nice thing. the shockwave effect is solid

[junior torrent]

also in 4, your character panics

if impacted by explosion

or missed rpg

[timid pulsar]

I miss commander mode in BF2, commander calling in artillary strikes, and being able to destroy the commander's assets was awesome.

[junior torrent]

listen,
I dont like being in the map as commander

[timid pulsar]

there was so much untapped potential with BF2, and it's sad it was only playable on PC at the time.

[junior torrent]

i prefer 4, hardline approach

[opal schooner]

I need more WW2 games personally. Everyone stopped doing them after they got done to death in the 2000s and none of the recent ones from the late 2010s with the big franchises have really hit that mark for me

[thick seal]

commander is a poor mechanic it can stay cut

[keen jacinth]

I want those realistic blast radius, nearby buildings have their windows blow out, dust kicks up, and the power flickers. Car alarms and the dust settling .

[junior torrent]

and Here I am

[timid pulsar]

that was the point though, it was simulating a commander concept of looking at a map and calling out everything

[junior torrent]

needing AI bots for BF

[thick seal]

its not like a single bf player wants to listen to a commander. they just want to do what they want to do

[opal schooner]

The particles on Redacted are actually jaw-dropping

[keen jacinth]

I think commander mode should be a in map feature rather than a server browser and ui navigation option.

Have a container on both spawns

[junior torrent]

just dont make be there on the map

Id rather be off the grid and do my things

[opal schooner]

Isn't Battlefield all about squad play and teamwork tho 😭

[keen jacinth]

You can temporarily destory the container with a missile or hit with your rocket from air vehicles.

[junior torrent]

do whatever

just

I'd rather not be physically on the map

[thick seal]

maybe in some perfect universe yeah sure

[junior torrent]

communicate to me

and we;ll be okay

[thick seal]

the battlefield i play? buncha clowns running around t bagging

and i love it

[timid pulsar]

so do you think commander should be able to play in the game and just accept orders/requests on screen...and not use a map?

[junior torrent]

no

I do not want to be on the map

off the grid

[keen jacinth]

It's now who has less sped low levels on their team to guarantee a win.

[thick seal]

he who has more snipers shall lose the game

[keen jacinth]

You snipe, I'll UCAV

[distant wraith]

Anyone on bfv

[sterile jolt]

What is it?

[sterile jolt]

BF needs 2 classes honestly, medic and assault, they should also remove snipers from the game

Tired of getting more kills than sniper players with a shotgun in maps like Hamada

[sterile jolt]

They should bring back V's ''subclasses''

[sterile jolt]

Yeah, BFV did it best

You can call air strikes and vehicles but you need to use a binocular to select that, for modern setting games though, I think they can do it with a map, like CoD killstreaks

[granite wyvern]

Yep, killing half the enemy team with a V1 is always fun 🙂

[edgy mantle]

it could work as an option on mobiles and tablets?

just like how BF4 used to have it

hell it could also be F2P so it incites people to buy the game but we know thats not gonna happen

[livid bay]

That’s not too crackpot of a proposal. More classes have been done before in the series’s history

[livid bay]

That’s why I think it’d be good to add something like an “important objective” system. Like, the commander can point out an objective and the team will have X time to get it. If they do, they get something good. If they don’t, they get something bad.

[granite wyvern]

No. Good squads already get rewarded when playing the objectives together. Bad squads don’t so works well as it is,

[uneven cape]

iirc bfv also has experimental weapons like bf1 does right?

ac isnt really alt history cuz most of the events on it were real except for the whole assasin vs templar stuff

[austere sail]

Hey guys what are ur favorite weapons in bf1?

[granite wyvern]

I loved the Automatico Storm

[opal schooner]

All of the shotguns, i find them so fun in bf1

[true viper]

We need another WAW

[wicked tapir]

Loser said he reported me after I stole his kill 😭

[granite wyvern]

What?

[halcyon sundial]

n00b crutch

[oak fulcrum]

Well I was gonna talk about some issues with my account, but right now my main issue is that BFV won't open at all even after reinstalling BFV, EA app, clearing cache, and repairing. The pop-up loads, a white frostbite screen pops up after and then closes.

[sullen mountain]

Can you find people to help you do assignment?

[vale grail]

The entire franchise is alternate history, really. AC I mean.

[vale grail]

A few, but most of them were recycled from BF1 so I make the argument they don't count.

[sterile jolt]

Yes, but fever than BF1 honestly. Trench Carbine, StG1-5(full auto mode never existed), Turner SMLE, Type 2A from the top of my head.

[sterile jolt]

Never had that issue, might be related to your PC

[opal schooner]

Tuner SMLE existed

[sterile jolt]

Type 2A and Trench carbine also existed but they were never adopted, they were prototypes

[opal schooner]

C96 carbines technically existed as well as full-auto variants but it's not as convenient as portrayed in games

Oh I misread your sentence 🤦‍♀️

I thought we were talking about if they existed or not, not prototypes

That's my fault for being on discord after taking melatonin lol, a sign that I should go to bed ig

[granite wyvern]

Whatever kiddo

[halcyon sundial]

the truth hurts doesn't it? unluckyyy

[granite wyvern]

Grow up

[halcyon sundial]

already have. calm down it is not that deep lol.

everyone knows the automatico is babys first gun in bf1. accept facts today.

[granite wyvern]

I think I will follow Mr Twain’s advice - Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[halcyon sundial]

oh i just saw you are a console player. makes a lot of sense now.

i love the way you call me a name after telling me to grow up lol

notice how i have only talked about the game and gun. you go low, i go high and headshot.

[granite wyvern]

They are certainly two of the deadliest and most moaned about guns in the game.

[halcyon sundial]

they are rightfully moaned about

[vagrant basalt]

Man I wish instead of them making a new battlefield they should comeback and revive the good ones they already have like bf5

It'd be dope ash if we got an update for bf5 especially for maps

[vagrant basalt]

Enjoying something u like= baby. Got it ur logic makes sense(not)

[vagrant basalt]

Not everyone plays pc bud

[halcyon sundial]

not talking about enjoyment, talking about gunplay and balance.

[halcyon sundial]

wow you don't say....

automatico copium is always amusing

[vagrant basalt]

I don't play bf1

Are u really complaining about an ea game?

[halcyon sundial]

wow you dont play one of the best, if not the best bf game? interesting.

[tropic vortex]

2042

[halcyon sundial]

you can complain about anything bud, just like you are complaining about someone complaining right now.

funny how that works

[vagrant basalt]

Opinions are subjective not everyone plays/likes bf1

[halcyon sundial]

wow you dont say....

[vagrant basalt]

I'm not complaining lmao

Ur the one complaining about gunplay and balance In a EA SPORTS video game lmfao

Typical pc player goodbye

[halcyon sundial]

battlefield is ea sports???? lmao you just showed your power level right there lmao

[granite wyvern]

I’ve not played it since BFV came out

[vagrant basalt]

K

U just proved my point

[halcyon sundial]

EA Sports Battlefield.... embarassing scenes lol

[vagrant basalt]

Electronic arts is what I meant

[halcyon sundial]

oof damage control lol

[vagrant basalt]

Oof child control LOL

Come back when u grown up

[halcyon sundial]

take your own advice bud

it is not that deep

[vagrant basalt]

Buddy I made a honest mistake I thought bf was made by ea sports were all human

[halcyon sundial]

why are you getting so worked up? lol it is the internet

[vagrant basalt]

But complaining bc someone plays the game how they want to is kinda embarrassing too

[halcyon sundial]

not really. remember what you said about opinions earlier?

practice what you preach

[vagrant basalt]

Opinions and complaining is too different meanings

[halcyon sundial]

opinions can be intertwined in complaints....

[vagrant basalt]

No ur just straight up complaining goodbye

[halcyon sundial]

damn it is room temp in here, someone turn up the heat

[halcyon sundial]

ok actually be a goodbye this time plz lol

[vagrant basalt]

Anyways @granite wyvern u play breakthrough?

We needa play again sometime

But lately not much servers

[granite wyvern]

I only play Conquest buddy, mostly Tactical

[granite wyvern]

I’m on tonight

[vagrant basalt]

Ok I'm good with that

[random blade]

it's in the game

[halcyon sundial]

tom brady skin

what would ultimate team look like in bf? lol

[random blade]

I don't know what that is or how it works

[vagrant basalt]

I'm on rn

[halcyon sundial]

it is a mode in fifa, madden and nhl games where you build a team of players

[vagrant basalt]

What time is it for u?

[granite wyvern]

10:48 am

[vagrant basalt]

Oh

2 in the morning for me I'm about to gts soon

Might be on tmr tho

[granite wyvern]

Ok, no worries buddy

[plain yoke]

Anyone here play hardline on ps5?

[uneven cape]

i think it really depends on the game but on the old acs theres a good ammount of real historical events

[solemn stump]

Hi

[uneven cape]

and the liberator which is like the bfv version of the kolibri

stg 44 aswell

[granite wyvern]

Hello there

[sterile jolt]

Nah, pistol carbines are underused if anything, most likely because when people play as a recon they want to be a sniper, not an assault with flares

[solemn stump]

Hru

[sterile jolt]

Kolibri can actually be effective, if only Liberator one shotted enemies at point blank, it would be a fun meme weapon

[granite wyvern]

Trench Carbine is popular on Xbox, if I play Recon - it’s what I use.

[sterile jolt]

You can kill tanks with it though lol

Just place sticky bombs and use Liberator

It will be a liberator kill

[sterile jolt]

Well, I play on PC, people mostly use bolt actions or slrs

[granite wyvern]

I mostly play the run n gun maps

[uneven cape]

kolibri does like 2 dmg thats not effective lol

[solid carbon]

Just shoot the head

[sterile jolt]

You can at point blank

2 shot I think

[granite wyvern]

Unless they only have 2 HP 🙂

[sterile jolt]

Liberator does like 95 max

At point blank

Any other pistol is better

Like use Welrod or something lol

For memes

[granite wyvern]

I’ve destroyed vehicles with AP Mines - straw that broke the camel’s back

[sterile jolt]

How?

Sticky + AP mine?

Or AT + AP?

[granite wyvern]

They were by ammo box at B on Al Marj and got vehicle destroyed / kills

[sterile jolt]

Ah

[granite wyvern]

AP (AT’s are meant to destroy vehicles)

[sterile jolt]

Low health vehicle exploded due to AP

[sterile jolt]

You can combine them I think

Place AT near a tank and shoot AP later

Kill will be counted for AP

Or the weapon

[granite wyvern]

Ah, okay

[granite wyvern]

Good, you’re also an Xbox player? Which BF(s) do you play?

[solemn stump]

i do have bf1, bf3, bf4, bf5, bad company 1 and 2 and 2042

[granite wyvern]

If you still play BFV - feel free to add me

[uneven cape]

fr?

[uneven cape]

low chance but not 0

[cunning heart]

I do

@granite wyvern I'm not good at bf v but I still play it and bf 1

[granite wyvern]

On Xbox?

[cunning heart]

Ah damit no

Sorry

[granite wyvern]

No worries

[vale grail]

Same with Wolfenstein, however there's enough fantastical departure from actual history to say it's alternate history.

[true viper]

Hopefully they bring back server browser

but also hoping they would a scoreboard on the browser

Can there be a fucking ww2 game that doesn’t make American weapons op

[thick seal]

the absolute best guns in each category were non american in bfv imo (except shotguns)

i could see an argument about the BAR for lmgs

[true viper]

M1 garand is annoying

And m1911

Maybe it’s because I always constantly see them

[thick seal]

i rate turner g43 and g1-5 higher than m1 garand for semi auto rifles

[true viper]

Using g43 and it’s meh

[thick seal]

on long range maps, with the magazine? no way man

theres nothing meh about it

[true viper]

It’s meh

[thick seal]

it's the best long range SAR in the game

[true viper]

Long range?

Yeah

Just went 12-1

[thick seal]

only better semi auto for long range is zh

[true viper]

And joined very late

I guess I just see m1 garand constantly

[thick seal]

because bf players play without care for playing the best guns. they like the ping sound the garand makes

a lot of players really do just pick the gun that has the best looks/audio

[true viper]

I just play a gun for 100 kills and switch to the next

Or if bf2042, get all attachments and switch to next

[thick seal]

I do that too but I definitely dont play all guns equally after i've tried the list

[true viper]

I just pick whatever is my fav after

[thick seal]

like in 2042 i use the scar a lot more

than any other AR

[true viper]

I would pick the AK12 for assault rifle

has my fav feel

[true viper]

yeah it’s really good

went from tdm to conquest and doing well

[thick seal]

for tdm i'd use either g1-5 or turner depending on the map

if i wasnt using the stg1-5 like i normally would

[obsidian hinge]

Remember G1-5 on release

Broken

[uneven cape]

wolfenstein is full on alt history, 1960s national socialist america is not really historically accurate lol

but on ac theres plenty of unknown historical events, portrayed inaccurately that said, but still portrayed.

thomas hickey's conspiration, braddock's expedition and bonfire of vanities are three that i can name off the top of my head rn

[thick seal]

nah by the time I played bfv I believe it was nerfed. I waited until they fixed visibility cause I couldnt see shit in beta

and the game still has poor visibility but the soldier lighting made a huge difference

[thick seal]

i did hear that it was really strong, but i have a feeling it pales in comparison to 2042's release bsvm

[fringe yacht]

Is anyone having problems with the Anti Cheat based upon computer storage? Before this I had around 25GB out of 232GB free and now it has gone down to 7GB out of 232GB.

[rich ember]

...did you install the game?

also aren't you the guy that was complaining about the anticheat earlier

[fringe yacht]

I was. I did install the game.

[uneven cape]

maybe its time to buy a new disk

[rich ember]

well that's probably why you have less space free.

[long shore]

I just bought bf1 for the first time ever, had bf5 on my ps4 and played it a lot. Now it’s time to play bf1 on a laptop with 120 fps…

This will be my first game that i will keep playing instead of playing 30 hours and quit😭😂

[solid hinge]

is depress feel heated

when all souls hate a person he burns right

dam s koreans

[fringe yacht]

I actually installed it on my external drive not my local drive.

[rich ember]

well you never specified what drive you were talking about.

I assumed you were talking about your local drive. Assuming you hadn't installed it on there by accident.

Considering you claimed to cheat on combined arms, i am not confident in your intelligence.

[random blade]

Decided to play some bfv as 2042 was frustrating me so, actually having fun for once... the mouse feels so much better

[tropic vortex]

Need a bfv player on 2042 now to balance the population

[thin flume]

does anyone still play bf1 im reinstalling

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

🤭 "Haha, you missed- OH" 😳

🎬 u/nuclearseaweed

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Oct 17, 2024, 10:15 PM

▻

[random blade]

Genuinely, being able to play a map I want in less than a minute feels like a luxury

I’ve been missing tdm Mercury, one of my favs

[true viper]

seeing a server browser is like being blessed

[junior torrent]

too bad all servers you see are boring

[solid hinge]

we play bf the ditched way like ww1

on mission to demolish enemies then off

<<

[vale grail]

Even so, it still respects the severity of what that kind of world would look like.

[vale grail]

All good points don't get me wrong, regardless of what percentage of alternate history these games are, they still fall under the umbrella of the category. That being said, at least those games give disclaimers.

BFV is just 'this shit happened burn your textbooks on history lel'

[sterile jolt]

Garand has only 8 rounds, Turner or Gewehr 1-5 has 20 or 30+1, it's balanced

[sterile jolt]

Most overrated gun in the game maybe

[halcyon sundial]

yea bfv went over the line into baseless historical revisionism

[sterile jolt]

G43 is mid simply because of it's specializations, you can't use lightened stock and detachable mags at the same time and that gun is only good at longer ranges which makes lightened stock mandatory and when you can't have detachable mags most of your time will be spent on painfully long reloads

[vale grail]

And censorship too...

[granite wyvern]

I only care about gameplay - it’s a video game (not a history lesson)

[halcyon sundial]

good for you. I value some semblance of historical accuracy as it is a huge part of my enjoyment playing games based on real wars.

[halcyon sundial]

it is funny when you go revisit old games based on real wars and the amount of painstaking detail put into them. i mean you can still get that in indie titles like with the WW1 series (Verdun, Tannenberg and Isonzo) for example.

[rich ember]

yeah but those games are milsims and therefore suck ass.

[halcyon sundial]

there are older games based on WW2 and Vietnam that were casual yet had a lot of faithful historical content pumped into them.

[rich ember]

yeah i know.

[halcyon sundial]

the casual v milsim argument doesn't work. also the one above where people state that they only care about gameplay. those are the only two talking points people raise when people talk about bfv fail grade in history class.

folks are either simping for the AAA corps, they allign with the agendas/narratives pushed in modern media or are room temp iq.

[rich ember]

i mean it's also just as simple as not really caring if things are historically accurate.

BF1's not really historically accurate either, and I don't really care about that, that's not even in the top 10 reasons i dislike it.

[granite wyvern]

It had great atmosphere and was aesthetically pleasing

That’s the thing I liked best about that one

[rich ember]

it does.

but playing it makes me wanna jump out a window

[granite wyvern]

It was far from great from a gameplay perspective

[halcyon sundial]

yes and that is not an argument against those that do care. that is my issue. is that you make valid criticisms of media these days and you get hit with empty hollow talking points.

i think also many younger folks don't understand the history of gaming and how good we had it.

[granite wyvern]

That’s certainly not me 😂

[rich ember]

that is most likely true.

[halcyon sundial]

a get off my lawn moment haha

[granite wyvern]

Gaming used to be terrible

[halcyon sundial]

L take

[rich ember]

In some ways I would agree.

[granite wyvern]

I remember spending half an hour to load a game only for it to fail

The fact I now have gaming friends across the Atlantic is amazing

[halcyon sundial]

blud is going way back in time lmao

[granite wyvern]

The 1980s

[halcyon sundial]

i dont consider the 80s or 90s a golden age of gaming. the early noughties through to the early to mid 10s was it.

[rich ember]

...I'd say early 2010's were probably the best that gaming got. good games existed before and have been made since though.

[halcyon sundial]

i always include the early 00s as a lot of influential moments laid the groundwork for the games that came later

2005 on was really getting good. the peak was probs 08-14.

however you cant be sad it ended as you have to be glad that it happened at all

[granite wyvern]

I was playing Hardline then - loved the fact we had proper rental servers then (that’s certainly gone backwards with BF now).

[rich ember]

i'm not really sad.

[halcyon sundial]

hardline is puke

[granite wyvern]

Actually that was mid 2010s

[rich ember]

in some ways i am kinda glad it's over.

[rich ember]

what do you think of BF4

[granite wyvern]

Was my first BF - loved it

[halcyon sundial]

i think it was overrated

[rich ember]

...yeah you would

[granite wyvern]

Medal of Honor 2010 introduced me to DICE FPS

[rich ember]

MoH 2010 MP is literally just reskinned Bad Company 2, i swear to god.

[halcyon sundial]

i preferred bf3 and bfbc2

had better times on those games

[granite wyvern]

Never played it but loved MoH 2010 and my clan formed on that

[rich ember]

I like BF4's infantry gameplay. BF3 is really held down by the quality of it's servers and the fact that the servers nowadays just run the same shit constantly

[halcyon sundial]

bf4 did have the beauty that is locker tho

[rich ember]

BC2 is clunky by today's standards.

[rich ember]

Locker is fine if you're playing with and against decent people. if you're not, you're having a bad time. the fact that BF4 only had one new infantry map is one of my main issues with the game.

Like, BF3 had the Close Quarters DLC.

BF4 could've used a Close Quarters DLC.

Infantry gameplay on BF4 is good enough that I feel like more infantry-centric maps would've been good for it.

Instead we got shit like Naval Strike.

[granite wyvern]

Yeah, I only like infantry maps

[rich ember]

literally, the entire Naval Strike DLC could be deleted from the game forever and I would not care.

there is not a single map from that DLC i enjoy.

But no seriously, Hardline is a fine BF game.

Gameplay is just as good as BF4.

The only difference is the theme and setting.

which are not dealbreakers for me at all

[halcyon sundial]

hardline 🤮

[rich ember]

It wasn't that bad, come on.

[granite wyvern]

I loved 64 player TDM on that

[rich ember]

i don't care for 64 player TDM in general.

i think 64 player TDM shouldn't exist.

[granite wyvern]

Loved it

I did not start playing Conquest until half way through BF1

[rich ember]

honestly, i wish more people ran Domination servers.

[halcyon sundial]

that fact that the worst mode conquest is the most popular is annoying

[granite wyvern]

BFV Squad Conquest was my favourite mode ever

[halcyon sundial]

old bf games they run conquest on servers because it is the ideal mode for them to stack and stomp.

[rich ember]

right and not cause it's like, the defining mode of the franchise or anything.

[rich ember]

Never played BFV.

Spread to recoil conversion existing annoyed me enough that i'd just never bother.

[granite wyvern]

It’s my fave BF (I’ve played)

[rich ember]

How'd Squad Conquest work anyway

[granite wyvern]

Was ‘mini-conquest’ - 3 flags and 8 vs 8 (so just 2 squads a side). Was very sweaty.

[rich ember]

Ohhh.

Okay.

[uneven cape]

which is a pity really, after so many years without a new ww2 battlefield and when we finally get one its woke hot garbage

and it will likely be the last ww2 battlefield too

[tropic vortex]

Working on a ww2 game threw the devs off

[granite wyvern]

BFV? My fave BF

[tropic vortex]

It's good that ww2 is over permanently

[uneven cape]

gunplay and movement might be cool but the rest is pretty mid

[junior torrent]

And you guessed it

[true viper]

64 tdm is fun as long you didn’t get stuck in a loop of spawn die spawn die

[granite wyvern]

I would add:-

Squad Revives
Support Actions (blowing up half the enemy team with a V1 is great!)
Squad Conquest

[junior torrent]

About that....

[uneven cape]

i would just use bf1's healing system cuz bfv's looks confusing

[granite wyvern]

In what way?

[tropic vortex]

It's stupid with the long animation

I'm still being revived

[granite wyvern]

When throwing bandages?

[true viper]

squad revives is good

makes squad mates actually be more than just a mobile spawn beacon

[solid hinge]

i want my riffle laser put a nice little dot on enemy position

and marker doesnt exist

[uneven cape]

as toxic said cuz it has a long ahh animation

[granite wyvern]

Are you talking healing or reviving?

[uneven cape]

reviving sry

[jaunty marsh]

#general told me to come here and ask you guys about BFV. Do you guys like or dislike BFV? I unironically think it’s a good game

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

Heads up!

EA Anticheat is making its way to #Battlefield 1 this Tuesday, October 22nd.

The extension to Battlefield 1 is part of an ongoing effort where we continue to make adjustments and improvements towards fair play.

More about EA Anticheat here: https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/eaac-and-battlefield

𝕏 · Oct 18, 2024, 2:32 PM

[granite wyvern]

I love it

[granite wyvern]

I think the Medic revives are fine and the non-medic slow (which a fair pay off)

[jaunty marsh]

Same it’s one of my favorites I don’t care there’s women in the game like @vale grail but the gameplay is tremendous and immersive

[granite wyvern]

Are you on Xbox?

[opal schooner]

Women fought in World War II anyways, obviously not as significantly as BFV shows but you also use prototype weapons in that game so it's no big deal

[sullen mountain]

Does bf1 have community to help you doing assignment?

[true viper]

Yeah it’s balanced

[true viper]

Wish 3D spotting was a thing and hate attrition, other than that that thumbs up 👍

[solid hinge]

is this a place where u can get banned

dont like these places

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

bro really took the tornado express 🌪💀

🎬 u/Pancake_Thunderstorm

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Oct 18, 2024, 4:16 PM

▻

[solid hinge]

ppl played near me back those days

legendary

[solid carbon]

bruh what

[thick seal]

i respect the argument but you dont need lightened stock at the ranges where g43 shines. same goes for ZH-29.

best two long range semi auto guns in bfv

and i have previously said how lightened stock is the BEST perk, by the way, I get it.

[sterile jolt]

Lightened stock is more important in long ranges

[thick seal]

no, it's not

[sterile jolt]

Most OP SMGs don't even have lightened stock, you can just hipfire them

Lightened stock is more important in long range

Try a sniper with and without a lightened stock

You will lose all the duels

Without LS

[thick seal]

that's just not true at all

the Krag is the best sniper overall. And it's the best for sniper duels and it doesn't have LS

[sterile jolt]

It's not

[thick seal]

brotha ive checked your stats, you aren't some bolt action wizard

[sterile jolt]

G95 is

G95 does more damage and has LS

Also fires faster

[thick seal]

rate of fire isnt as important as velocity

[sterile jolt]

Velocity isn't as important unless you are trying to snipe from US spawn in Iwo Jima

[thick seal]

damage doesnt matter, it's about headshots for sniper duels

velocity absolutely matters for sniping duels lol

[sterile jolt]

RoF and LS matters more

[thick seal]

they dont.

[sterile jolt]

It will be harder for them to hit you

[random blade]

Velocity counters LS by it's very nature

[sterile jolt]

Because you think G43 is a good weapon lol

There is a reason it's the least played SAR in the game

Despite being a launch weapon

[thick seal]

thats the karabiner easily

nobody uses the karabiner.

[sterile jolt]

Nah

Check the stats

More people played with Karabiner

[thick seal]

and why would I actually care about what the population used? that doesnt prove it's the best

i expect bfv to have more garand players than any other rifle because the gun is iconic

bf players are mostly not tryhards

[sterile jolt]

Ok sure

But check the top 10 players

G43 isn't even in their top 10 most used weapons

[thick seal]

what does the "top 10 players" mean

[solid carbon]

nothing

[sterile jolt]

BF tracker

You can see top 10 players

[solid carbon]

those players dont speak for the entire playerbase

[thick seal]

top 10 of WHAT

like you need to explain what category you're talking about

[sterile jolt]

Top 10 kills

Top 10 time

etc.

[thick seal]

nobody cares about total aggregate kill count or time

having the most kills in bfv doesnt make you the best player it makes you a poopbucket nolifer

[sterile jolt]

Changing the goalposts now

[thick seal]

nah, we'll go off of kill/min

[sterile jolt]

Go ahead

G43 is bottom at the list lol

[random blade]

number of revives is clearly the best metric of personal skill

[thick seal]

and by the way the top end of any battletracker list is filled with cheating

it's a pretty worthless thing to base any serious discussion on imo

[solid carbon]

[random blade]

regardless of stats, a faster bullet will neuter the effects of lightened stock anyways as there's less lead required, simple as

[granite wyvern]

Of course it’s not

[thorny swan]

literal god tier take

[random blade]

it definitely is, if you've revived someone it means they've died, and you haven't, therefore it means you are better!

[granite wyvern]

lol

[tawdry burrow]

What gun do yall use for a more front line or aggressive sniper in battlefield 1?

[tawdry burrow]

For the rsc smg is it better to use the full auto or single shot mode?

[solid hinge]

accuracy is way out of balance

dice not even tolerant to technology balance, and experience balance is a dumb abusive state of the game now

simply...way too much abusive codes of the game

which honestly only few ppl awarded which most of them are even teamed up abusers

its like the elite syndrome

few ppl fun other most rage eventually out of the game

[sick sigil]

What mode would be good for "Get 25 kills in 1 round under 30 meters"? I can't get past 24 before the game ends playing conquest/breakthrough

[junior torrent]

Tdm

Also what game

[sick sigil]

bfv mb

type 100 mastery

tdm is dead on bfv, xbox, so i havent tried there

[junior torrent]

Too bad

Blame dice for not adding AI bots to the game

To make this easier

[sick sigil]

i mean, combined arms

if only they didnt have "in pvp" as part of it

[junior torrent]

Shame it's boring and repetitive

I wish it's real multiplayer but with bots only

[sick sigil]

if the bots would be better than 2042s bots are lol

idk i dont think im gonna get this without some insane rng lol

[junior torrent]

Pvp in nutshell

Shitty experience

[sick sigil]

yupp

[junior torrent]

As I said before ..

All shooters game should have bots

[sick sigil]

yea

idk i might try to find someone who will let me kill them over and over to do this

[junior torrent]

Also, do you own bf4?

Are you interested in Warsaw revamped?

[sick sigil]

idk what that is

[sterile jolt]

Operation underground

[sick sigil]

tried there just keeps getting pushed back into one of the spawns and its all just open area so no close quarters

[sterile jolt]

Just camp

In one of the choke points

[sick sigil]

ive tried that lol

people dont rush or go to choke points

[sterile jolt]

Which platform are you playing it on?

[sick sigil]

they just sit in corners with shotguns

xbox

[sterile jolt]

Oh

We have a PC server for assignments

But not for Xbox

Just try CQC maps

Until you get it done

[sick sigil]

well another 2 weeks of trying it is then lol

might just stop, getting tiring always getting to 20-24 then not geting 25

oh i just did it but its bugged XD

yea ig im gonna need some sort of glitch to finish it

[granite wyvern]

Nutjob

[vale grail]

Don't ping me unless you're actively in a conversation with me please. Also it's not some sexist angle to dislike the women in BFV where I'm concerned. It's the fact there were plenty of women who saw frontline service but it's historically inaccurate to insinuate that the Japanese, German and Allied forces had women fighting on the frontline as portrayed in the game itself. See the USSR's Stalingrad battle and the Night Witches for more information of actual women who served on the frontlines in real life.

[vale grail]

And these fanboys saying we're sexist for actively defending the real life women who actually fought in the second world war is not only ignorant but also uneducated. It's more nuts than a Squirrel's food pantry!

[vale grail]

Agreed. I've the collector's edition of CoD 2 (2005) and there's a Pont Du Hoc D-Day veteran interview that they based the Normandy campaign story off of. We went from having veteran interviews to niki manaj doing the booty twerk fart execution inwarzone

[jaunty marsh]

@vale grail ping

[uneven cape]

apart from russia no other country had women fighting in ww2 afaik

[limber bough]

Back to history class for you

[granite wyvern]

and if you got blown up, you could not get fixed by a quick syringe stab

[rich ember]

@vale grail ping btw

[granite wyvern]

@vale grail ping

[true viper]

Try tdm

[solid hinge]

new battlefield needs more accidentally induced kills

like spiking tires , break of ladder , bridges, houses, clogging ppl in tight spaces, denial of ppl out water etc

[opal schooner]

Germany and the UK also had women fight.

The US had some women fight too but mostly in the air force

Y'all gotta at least know history before complaining about it

[vale grail]

France had resistance cells but most of it was spy work and sabotages.

[vale grail]

I'm not kidding please don't do that.

[vale grail]

Bad Company 2 had a kill register called 'destruction2.0' where if you dropped a house on someone via grenade, C4 or rocket it'd count as your kill

[rich ember]

didn't that also result in circumstances where you could destroy an MCOM in Rush without arming it by just destroying the house it's in

[vale grail]

Smart cookie, you. That's correct. Some maps had Rush objectives in those kinds of structures.

[rich ember]

i mean yeah i did play BC2 on 360 and i distinctly remember that being a thing

i can understand why that's not a thing anymore

[vale grail]

'team mates' destroying the objective with friendly fire even in core gameplay

[solid hinge]

ye i know mcoms were also destroyed by c4 houses

[vale grail]

And interestingly enough it was one of the rare times you could teamkill in regular game modes outside of hardcore. Take down a building with friendlies in it. One time I did that trying to capture a Rush point but there was an entire squad in there arming it.

[vale grail]

Bad Company 2 was nearly perfect

[solid hinge]

true

was obviously every battle was intense balanced n movie like

[vale grail]

Only main issue was the fact that helicopters were near unkillible unless you got a lucky tracer dart off on it

[vale grail]

and the MG3 with Acog and Magnum ammo was just

PERFECTION

[thick seal]

this was less of a problem than the flying drone c4. the mcoms in destructible buildings wasnt standard for every sector or every map so it didnt really ruin anything imo

[rich ember]

I am less familiar with BC2 than BF3 or BF4, so I don't quite remember everything that's annoying about it.

[vale grail]

If anything it made the game more engaging because outside of griefers you'd had to actually defend something that'd be more and more of a hassle to protect. Honestly watching the structure get gradually destroyed added a lot of fun to the tention.

[thick seal]

its kinda like levolution, just becomes played out

[gray arrow]

DOES ANYONE KLNOW IF PEOPLE ARE STILL PLAYING BATTLEFIELD HARDLINE IN EUROPE? I WANT TO PLAY IT BUT I DONT WANT TO BUY IT IF IT ISNT ACTIVE IN EU ON PC (accidental caption)

[rich ember]

NO

STOP SHOUTING

WE CAN HEAR YOU FINE

[gray arrow]

i wrote it was accident

[vale grail]

Here's a rundown of the basics; UAV drone station locations being in some of the dumbest areas making it easy to get shot off of them, helicopters spawncamping, C4 spam where you could through up to six at a time on tanks, and certain maps having one-sided terrain but other than that, not much else.

[thick seal]

yeah, rush really had a fun dynamic nature to it in bc2. no game since really does the same thing

[rich ember]

To be fair, the potential for griefing ruins the entire concept and it is genuinely better if it's not in the game.

[vale grail]

There should've been a penalty where a player who destroyed a friendly objective would be barred from going online for a week. Not that it matters now because in their limitless stupidity, DICE decided to kill off the games we actually want to play.

Instead of killing 2042 which was costing EA money, they decided to kill the games people wanted to actually enjoy.

[upper berry]

I prob killed it for old gen for more servers

No company have unlimited amounts of servers. They rather use that money elsewhere

[true viper]

just pisses people off

[true viper]

Spies don’t count as frontlines

Hard to debate with these people who wear their ideology on their sleeves

[valid acorn]

hi

Do yall have tips on battlefield 5?

[true viper]

Sounds awful

[true viper]

Apparently Gewehr 43 is one of the best guns in the game

[thick seal]

play medic if you're struggling

medic in bfv is ez mode

[vale grail]

It was but outside of that the game itself was amazing. It had weather mechanics too, sandstorms and blizzards. Along with full enviromental destruction. The Levolutions sucked because instead of all the buildings being collapsible, it was just the central tower in Shang Hai for example.

[opal schooner]

SOE and The Home Guard for the UK, Volkssturm and Luftwaffe pilots for Germany.

Besides, Battlefield V and 1 are games loaded with prototype and rare weaponry. To complain about the women only would be largely picking and choosing what to care about.

[halcyon sundial]

the nikki minaj part made me lol

[opal schooner]

Besides, Battlefield has never been a particularly realistic franchise. It's a casual shooter

Did my message send twice or am i going crazy?

[halcyon sundial]

why are you all focusing on the women part when it comes to historical accuracy. that is not the main issue. Prototypes and rare stuff should not be mainline weaponry.

[halcyon sundial]

this is not an argument as casual shooters have had lots of historical content packed into them in the past.

[thick seal]

"Prototypes and rare stuff should not be mainline weaponry." why though

it's not a documentary

[opal schooner]

I'm speaking of how casual shooters are now where fun and choice are the priority

If they didn't have these things a large portion of the community would complain about there not being enough variety

[halcyon sundial]

n00bs liked that rare and prototype weapons were included in bf1 as otherwise they would have to actually aim

[opal schooner]

Battlefield is a casual franchise and a competitor to Call of Duty. They need to have stuff for the n00bs, even if it's to your dismay.

[halcyon sundial]

bf and cod are not competitors though and never were. they are completely different games.

[opal schooner]

They are, people compare them a lot

[thick seal]

the two most casual military fps franchises arent competition

[rich ember]

Why are you all focusing on the women part when it comes to historical accuracy

because that was something that was being tossed around a lot when BFV got announced.

[opal schooner]

They are the two biggest FPS franchises

[thick seal]

how do people come up with these arguments

[halcyon sundial]

yea room temp iq people compare them.

[rich ember]

like, a lot of people were really mad that women were in the video game.

it actually was responsible for the creation of the funniest youtube thumbnail i've ever seen in my life

[opal schooner]

They are the two biggest multiplayer shooter franchises on the market who directly reference each other with Ground War in the MW reboots and "Above and Beyond the Call" with BF3.

[rich ember]

but i can't post it cause i don't have regular

and i'm pretty sure that video's been removed now

[halcyon sundial]

they are different games. look at bf large scale mitliary sandbox, cod nowhere near that.

the only comparison is potentially gunplay at times.

[rich ember]

They are both arcade shooters though.

[halcyon sundial]

arcade shooters? never seen them in the arcades lol

use proper terms plz

[rich ember]

i'm going to assume that is a joke

because if not that's the stupidest fucking thing i've ever heard.

[halcyon sundial]

cod is casual. bf is more casual with a slight lean toward milsim.

[opal schooner]

Anyways, for BF games my priority isn't historical accuracy, it's historically authenticity — it's gotta feel like WW1 or WW2. Which is what BFV kinda failed at imo, but BF1 felt like WW1.

[halcyon sundial]

good for you. historical games for me need authenticity.

[thick seal]

battlefield is not a milsim

never was

never will be

[halcyon sundial]

i sad it slightly leans towards. please read and comprehend the English language.

[opal schooner]

Then play Hell Let Loose, not Batflefield — or watch a documentary. Some people want to have fun.

[thick seal]

aesthetics arent milsim

[opal schooner]

I love Hell Let Loose btw, this isn't shade to that or anything

[rich ember]

slight lean towards milsim

Very slight, the only thing hinting at that would be projectile based bullets instead of hitscan, but even CoD does that now on Warzone.

[halcyon sundial]

good for you. again the casual argument has already been debunked by older games. move on from the tired old talking point.

[opal schooner]

The casual argument is just true. You can say it's debunked but that doesn't make it so.

And in the older games you can send a jeep flying 500 feet into the sky with dynamite and grenades make you fly a mile away. Love them and they're definitely more grounded but they are far from hardcore or milsim at all

[halcyon sundial]

it isn't true though. you need to go play some older historical shooter games. research what i lived through kid.

[opal schooner]

I've played those games and lived through them too.

[thick seal]

battlefield was never Red Orchestra

[halcyon sundial]

well you obviously need a rehash on them

[rich ember]

so wait

what's the issue here

[opal schooner]

^ I implore you to read this and watch gameplay

[opal schooner]

Apparently Battlefield should be a hyperrealistic milsim because Press Q to Spot thinks so lol

[halcyon sundial]

the issue is that some people cannot handle people criticizing historical authenticity in games. they basically can't handle alternate opinions.

[true viper]

the point is respecting ww2, just look at waw, not at all accurate, yet respects people who fought in it

the prototype weapons is just a game thing, doesn’t matter

I personally wouldn’t mind having women as snipers or pilots cause they deserve respect and recognition too, the problem is the execution, which was having a woman on the frontlines with a prosthetic arm in your reveal trailer

[random blade]

I don’t think he did, just said it leaned more into milsim in tone, not gameplay. Vehicles and a larger scale and all

[opal schooner]

And why is the woman what you focus on?

[true viper]

because it’s on the reveal trailer

[opal schooner]

It doesn't lean milsim though. Maybe aesthetically but gameplay wise it is entirely casual

[true viper]

it’s on the cover

[halcyon sundial]

not my argument, nice strawman.

[rich ember]

it's in the reveal trailer. was never in the game.

[opal schooner]

So is the prototype weaponry

[random blade]

That’s exactly the point -> aesthetically

[true viper]

its more in the reveal trailer than some prototype gun

[random blade]

I’ve heard that exact view so many times it’s always referencing the aesthetic over an actual shooter design philosophy

[opal schooner]

Okay genuine question — why do you care? Why do you care there's a woman in an unrealistic game that established itself as not being realistic?

Especially when they did fight in that war

[rich ember]

mostly because most people do not actually care about the design as far as it being a video game goes

[halcyon sundial]

it is funny to see the supporters of historical revisionism, revise history lol

i love it

[opal schooner]

I'm not revising history at all. I am a huge history buff.

[rich ember]

apparently not enough of a history buff for this guy

[true viper]

established as unrealistic
No the game established itself giving spotlight to the unknown parts of WW2

If it wants to be inclusive and all woke, the least it can do is show proper respect to women who actually fought in ww2

history buff

[halcyon sundial]

you just revised history. as in bf franchise, bfbc2 vietnam dlc i felt was of course a casual shooter but authentic.

[true viper]

It’s discord

Everyone is either an art whore or history buff

gives you no credibility

[opal schooner]

Wait so you have a problem with inclusivity?

[true viper]

Did you not read what I said

I want them to show proper respect to women who fought in ww2

[opal schooner]

I did. You viewed inclusity with a negative connotation

You painted it as negative lol

[true viper]

Yeah you didn’t read

[opal schooner]

😭

[halcyon sundial]

moonvive not very good on the reading and comprehension

[opal schooner]

There's no winning really

[true viper]

sadly

[opal schooner]

You don't gotta insult my intelligence over a video game.

That's plainly inappropriate and rude.

And besides, I read it. Clearly you've never heard of subtext.

[halcyon sundial]

not insulting your intelligence. you have literally on multiple ocassions not read and comprehended what people have typed. you have twisted folks words and strawmanned them.

[true viper]

I honestly want a ww2 game that says fuck it

[opal schooner]

I have factually not. I have played several Battlefield games we discussed and yet you claimed I was revising them.

[rich ember]

I will say, DICE marketing was not on it's A game during BFV. Like, for all the talk of women with prosthetic hands being in the trailer, they did have a skin in the game for the german faction i believe that had the same name as an actual revolutionary that fought against them in WW2, they had to change that after the family of that person noticed and complained.

DICE research was clearly not great.

[true viper]

Something like Vanguard

I love ww2 as a setting, but I just hate the lack of attachments or anything absurd

[halcyon sundial]

no plz for god sakes read and comprehend what i typed. you said that bf has always been a unrealisitic franchise when it comes to history however i used bfbc2 vietnam as an example to refute that.

[opal schooner]

BFV was full of issues but people who were so up in arms about the woman were just being sexist lol, it's a game where you can be a british soldier driving a Tiger 1 in 1940 using a WW1 prototype.

[rich ember]

It has always been unrealistic in terms of gameplay. It has never been a milsim. Not even close.

[halcyon sundial]

you revised history by stating that bf has always been unrealistic

in terms of history

do you think bfbc2 vietnam was pretty authentic or no?

[true viper]

Hell Let Loose isn’t realistic because my character can’t pickup an enemy’s rifle after running all out of ammo

[opal schooner]

BFBC2 Vietnam is a game where you can play as a Viet Cong driving an American tank or jihad bomb them with a jeep.

[rich ember]

you revised history

with all due respect you put a lot of value on the word of a single rando on discord, I don't think they were revising history, i think they were just incorrect.

[halcyon sundial]

now you are moving the goalpost. i am done typing to you.

[opal schooner]

No, Battlefield has factually just never been realistic

[halcyon sundial]

ignore moonvive. he is dishonest

[opal schooner]

Not a he but aight

[rich ember]

She is.

[halcyon sundial]

whatever idc

[opal schooner]

I simply just responded to what you said. There was no goalpoast moved there besides your own. If you're gonna use debate terms you don't understand at least try to use them correctly

[true viper]

ZH21 IS THE AEK OF BFV

[halcyon sundial]

dishonest

[true viper]

TAKE OUT OF THE FUCKING GAME

[thick seal]

its 29 not 21

[opal schooner]

It's a laser beam istg lmao

[thick seal]

well ya every semi auto has no horizontal recoil

semi autos in bfv are at their strongest ever

[true viper]

the next gun on my list is autoloading and it’s really good

I just wish I wasn’t so nearsighted

[opal schooner]

Never been too up in arms about the ZH-29 cause you can still counter it. The Type 2A has like no counter if you're up close AND it's named incorrectly

[rich ember]

Yeah but it's also beaten by the ZK-383 by any decent player

unless they get unlucky of course

[opal schooner]

True, the Type 2a is kind of just BFV's noob tube

[rich ember]

not much you can do about that

[thick seal]

yeah there's nothing you can do with the zk to compete with the zh player at 75m away, just gotta pray

[true viper]

The problem with ZH-29 is that the average user is hiding in some random bush or building

[opal schooner]

Yeahh true

[thick seal]

zh players are rats ye

[true viper]

I can only move around when I play medic and spam smokes

[rich ember]

oh damn discord let me put a name this long.

cool.

[thick seal]

medic is definitely ez mode

[halcyon sundial]

probably why i never have an issue with those rat players haha. i always medic lmao

[halcyon sundial]

L take

[rich ember]

me when i revise history (i am incorrect in a discord conversation)

[thick seal]

?????

[true viper]

Yeah if I’m not complaining about the zh29 it’s the medic with a type 2a

[halcyon sundial]

yea i never use the type 2n00b

[thick seal]

recons with flare spam are also annoying but medic is the easiest class

[true viper]

I like you can destroy it

[halcyon sundial]

easy in what sense. you are talking about a whole class. overgeneralized af.

[opal schooner]

I'm a big assault player and you've got a lot of counters that work well at medium and close

The m1907 SF is a hell of a spitter

[thick seal]

the classes are very well balanced

[opal schooner]

And it's surprisingly competent at medium range

[thick seal]

medic is simply easier to play

[opal schooner]

The gunplay is easily the best part of BFV

[halcyon sundial]

easier to play how?

[rich ember]

Guy thinks Medic is easy mode because you can heal yourself.

[opal schooner]

Medic can be difficult if you don't know how to play it right

[rich ember]

The movement is better, BF4's gunplay is still the best.

BF1 would be fine if it didn't have visual recoil.

[thick seal]

infinite heals in a game with health attrition is a big deal. and 4 smoke grenades on every spawn allows you to move around the map freely

[halcyon sundial]

omg i am beginning to like moonvive a lot more after reading this.....

bruh

[rich ember]

well that's cause Attrition was a terrible idea.

[thick seal]

alright press im just gonna ignore you i guess

[halcyon sundial]

L take on medic

[thick seal]

you have nothing to say

[halcyon sundial]

bruh

[thick seal]

"L take" say something then yourself bitch

[true viper]

Yeah I just started bfv after 3 years and medic is definitely the easiest

[halcyon sundial]

guards this person has lost his composure

i was joking lad calm down lol

lmao

[true viper]

I hate the desert maps tho

[halcyon sundial]

this fr

[rich ember]

Any class that has the ability to heal is going to have a slight advantage, but the advantage of being able to heal is never going to be relevant in a fight because you cannot heal mid-fight, it gets cancelled if you get hit.

it's not foolproof.

you still have to be able to play the game decently to do well.

[thick seal]

healing in between bullets can save you from 2 taps in certain cases

[true viper]

but since Medic has so many smokes, you can just pop a smoke and heal

[halcyon sundial]

medics reviving all you fools dyin too

stop dyin n00bs

[rich ember]

You're not gonna be able to heal in between bullets in a fight.

[thick seal]

you absolutely can do that in bfv

dont say factually incorrect things

[rich ember]

Did people have fucking muzzleloaders in WW2? What are you talking about?

[thick seal]

theres plenty of slow firing weapons and healing is instant, whats so hard to understand about this

its not going to work against a 2a at close range, obviously.

[halcyon sundial]

i hope yoyoyooyyo is down with 4 medics within inches of him but they are all refuse to revive and die whilst he rages

the medic curse i place on this dude

my special syringe of curses

[rich ember]

Okay, hold on

I am looking at the weapons that Assault has access to.

The lowest RPM semi automatic rifle that Assault has access to is the Selbstalader 1916, which fires at 224 RPM.

[thick seal]

okay im sorry i mentioned it

[rich ember]

no fuck you i'm looking into it now

[thick seal]

i was talking about specific long range interactions

[rich ember]

fuck you

[thick seal]

2 TAPS

not assault guns

[rich ember]

YOU DID NOT SPECIFY

[thick seal]

but im still sorry i mentioned it

[rich ember]

NOW I AM RESEARCHING

SHUT UP.

[thick seal]

i literally said 2 taps

[rich ember]

This gun fires at the same RPM in BF1.

That is not a slow gun.

And that is the SLOWEST SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT ASSAULT HAS

[thick seal]

not talking about assault guns anyway

[opal schooner]

Bro ate you up and spit you out

[rich ember]

Long range interactions are a non-starter because Medic primarily has SMG's.

Which means they cannot effectively engage someone with a sniper rifle.

[thick seal]

yeah but as you're being shot at if you spam heal you can avoid being 2 tapped by those recon guns (sometimes)

[halcyon sundial]

i use jungle carbine lately as medic

[rich ember]

Unless the sniper is really stupid and trying to get in the close range.

[thick seal]

and yeah, you can jungle carbine too.

[rich ember]

At that point, they deserve to die.

[rich ember]

because they're bolt actions, and this can be circumvented by switching to your pistol

[opal schooner]

BFV's BA carbines my beloved 🫶

Shame there's only 3

[rich ember]

because as i stated before

getting shot cancels healing.

[thick seal]

why would a pistol switch matter at long range i think you dont understand my little stupid tidbit still

[rich ember]

and that's not caliber dependent.

[thick seal]

and im sorry i mentioned it lmao

[rich ember]

You're saying that Medic is easy to play because they can survive being shot at in the body by a bolt action at long range, a range that the Medic class cannot even engage you at.

[thick seal]

see, you dont get it

[halcyon sundial]

i dont think you get anything tbh

[thick seal]

Okay shitter

[halcyon sundial]

stay mad kid

[opal schooner]

💀

[thick seal]

you're the one talking about "revive cursing me" lol

weirdo

[halcyon sundial]

yep as a part of the medics union we curse you blud

[opal schooner]

Bf chat feisty tonight huh

[rich ember]

Like, my guy. Any class can survive a single body shot at range, it's called TAKING COVER AFTER GETTING SHOT

[thick seal]

JESUS CHRIST

[rich ember]

THIS IS NOT AN ADVANTAGE EXCLUSIVE TO MEDIC

[halcyon sundial]

i hope i get this yoyo siwa kid in my game so i can jungle carbine his behind in

[true viper]

I’ve seen the knife takedowns work more in front of someone than the back

[rich ember]

IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE KILLING MEDICS AT RANGE WITH A BOLT ACTION, THEN LEARN HOW TO LAND HEADSHOTS.

[halcyon sundial]

THIS FR

[rich ember]

It is genuinely not even an issue, the medic can't even engage you.

[halcyon sundial]

obvious is obvious

[thick seal]

where did this come from

[rich ember]

hm

[thick seal]

the fuck are you talking about??

[rich ember]

HM

[thick seal]

when in this discussion was i talking about playing recon

[rich ember]

HMMMMMM

[thick seal]

NEVER LOL