battlefield-6

[timber matrix]

Wait a week, they're going to release two “new” maps... but I suggest keeping your expectations very low.

[subtle sluice]

im sure that and the netcode would be better then the one in bf6

[charred rose]

More battlefield soon lets goo

[robust knoll]

the money system, how expensive will your KTS build be?

[modern swift]

Thanks

[chilly sand]

all the haters are little bird players I hit with rpgs

[subtle sluice]

the answer is "yes"

[robust knoll]

stock AK gang

[subtle sluice]

do you think console player gonna have aim assist for this one ?

[charred rose]

I hope so

[rocky sentinel]

Is that why every week has a peak over 65k?

[robust knoll]

@rocky sentinel your 5.7 and its ammo in Wardogs will be expensive as

[rocky sentinel]

True

[robust knoll]

the humble 9 mill wins again

[subtle sluice]

[round quail]

There is a new game which is bf6 type WARDOGS

[round quail]

Delta force has more players 😭

[rocky sentinel]

It's also free

[chilly sand]

and boosted by china

wardogs looks like a milsim

bf is not a milsim

[robust knoll]

milsim bros, are we back

[chilly sand]

I don’t think so the last game those devs launched died in 2 months

[robust knoll]

nvm, it's over

[candid edge]

night soldiers 💤 🫡

[left parrot]

bring back solos

[rocky sentinel]

I'm just waiting for arma 4

[tidal hound]

China players dont play DF on Steam. Their server is a completely separate client. They are/were a whole season ahead of Steam since they released earlier

[robust knoll]

garena bros

[round quail]

Oh WARDOGS gameplay is arma type ?

[tidal hound]

But DF player numbers are botted. THey have been for a while now

[round quail]

True

I played bf and delta force both

Both are full of bots

[timber matrix]

I would say 50/50. It would be a shame if Wardogs turned out to be just another arma reforger.

[placid wyvern]

whu happeh

[charred rose]

I wish the tr-7 would just be an actual gun and shoot in the general direction I'm looking in

[gloomy oracle]

the average player is slightly not as good as bot tbh. At least bots can rez and drop ammo. And generally walk onto the objective. Same amount of kills too.

[robust knoll]

[tribal zodiac]

They used to not drop ammo and it would drive me up the wall

Thats why i started playing support lmfao

[river fox]

Had better bot AI in battlefront 2

They didn't put much effort into it in BF6

[charred rose]

They slap sometimes out of nowhere

[river fox]

Its pretty much AI u would expect from early 2000s tho let's be honest

[ruby holly]

Idk if I should be surprised but oh wow never I have been so let down with the state of BF6, especially having quite optimism with new Contaminated Map and newfound love of several 1.0 maps but ofc

[river fox]

What were u expecting from season 2. Something fun?

Now u just get railed by choppers 24/7

[ruby holly]

Contaminated is fun tbh, honestly rarely gets screwed by Choppers but maybe Asia is bit different skill

I do have a plan to practice my vehicle or sniping tbh.

[acoustic spindle]

Shoot the choppers down. Allowing vehicles to stay in the air is a skill issue

[fallen plume]

yuh

[ruby holly]

I've done once and it's quite the badass moment I've done. Shame i don't have recorder

[river fox]

The anti air launchers are useless in this game. Only option is using tows or sniping it with rpgs

Then your entire team decides to not target them and you are the only one doing it. Typical bf experience

[chilly sand]

this is apparently what the battledads wanted

wasn’t a real battlefield without little bird spam

[river fox]

Adding a second anti air launcher did literally nothing when they can just fly to ground level and exploit terrain with their 10 second flare cd

[acoustic spindle]

It’s fun to get a takedown with rpg or sniping the pilot and it crash

[ruby holly]

Tbh been cooking with my RPG. Previously I can't do stuff when target is either flying or far off. Now I'm arc-ing like a pro

But yeah, feels like RPG the only viable launcher idk.

[acoustic spindle]

I haven’t had a lot of issue with the lock on launcher just have to make sure they fire their flares first

[tidal hound]

Any pilot with a brain would save flares until the warning said Incoming

Staring at them locked on does nothing since they wont pop flares until after we shoot

And the new launcher is useless because it explodes on the flares, so it cant re-lock

[plush lantern]

@timber wren join my vc

[acoustic spindle]

Most pilots set off flares the moment someone locks on

[azure drum]

Hey

[balmy sinew]

What's up with you guys

[robust knoll]

🚬

[balmy sinew]

🚬

What's up glyph 👩‍🦲

[robust knoll]

🚬

you?

[balmy sinew]

I've been good 🫂👋🛸

[river fox]

Exactly. EA have no clue about game balance

[rich torrent]

Just paint them.

[acoustic spindle]

When are we gonna change the general channels name to hackusations anonymous meetings

[peak bronze]

Is it just me or are my anti air rockets so weak

Like i got a hit and it does like 15 damage meanwhile some other guys 2 tap me

[slender epoch]

we got rug pulled again

[marble stag]

Hey, seems EA is pulling a lot of developers off all the studios for BF6.

Guess i was right after all.

Who ridiculed my skeleton crew comment again?

[acoustic spindle]

Post launch restructuring is standard.

[marble stag]

"Post launch restructuring" on a crew that was already undermanned.

Keep feeding yourself this lol.

[acoustic spindle]

You think devs stay with the same game forever?

[marble stag]

I didn't say that.

[covert fog]

Damn EA really fired BF Studios staff cus the game sucks

[rich torrent]

We can't push out more content because we are a team of certain size

[covert fog]

😭🙏🏻

[rich torrent]

then fires devs

[marble stag]

I said it first. People ridiculed it here. And now there's more layoffs.

[rich torrent]

if you defend this, you're the issue with gaming now a days

[acoustic spindle]

Who said they fired devs from the group of a certain size lol

[marble stag]

A DICE employee confirmed they are a team of "certain" size. And the layoffs are accross all studios so laogically it impacts all of the teams.

[rich torrent]

They fired devs from the battlefield studios broski, from all teams - does this really need to be explained?

[covert fog]

I was here some days ago talking about how the game has fallen off real bad and was criticsed

[balmy sinew]

[acoustic spindle]

X amount of people were assigned to post launch support. Laying off Y amount of people across the studios doesn’t mean it touched people from group X

[rich torrent]

They were already struggling and then fire people, like genuinely make it make sense.

[marble stag]

The X you are talking about was already undermanned, as confirmed by a DICE employee stating they are a "team of certain size" when asked if we're going to see more than 1-2 large maps a full season.

And team X was also impacted by the layoffs.

[rich torrent]

Just look up EAs history with firing people and shutting down teams.

[acoustic spindle]

No. But nobody knows what group people were laid off from. Nobody can prove it is from the people who are doing post launch

[marble stag]

I know, i just can't tell you.

[acoustic spindle]

Prove it

[rich torrent]

No one should be laid off with how much profit they made.

Crazy concept.

[marble stag]

No. I'm not going to namedrop anyone.
Also, i was right about the skeleton crew and incoming layoffs. Take it as you will.

[acoustic spindle]

Again. Post launch people get moved around and laid off based on the needs of whatever games in development

[acoustic spindle]

You can’t prove you are right.

Sure you “know someone” 😂

[marble stag]

Not without implicating other people. No.

[acoustic spindle]

In two years everyone will swear they called bf7 being in development and gloat

[rich torrent]

Imagine being fired after making EA record profits

insane that people defend this, genuinely insane

[acoustic spindle]

38 billion in debt

[rich torrent]

and firing people from a 1000 dev team isn't going to even tickle that

[acoustic spindle]

They sold EA remember? Liquidation is always the start of a new company ownership merge etc

[marble stag]

It's ~20 billion and it's because of a leveraged buyout financing.

[rich torrent]

look up EAs history

[marble stag]

Which is much different than "just being in debt"

[rich torrent]

tell me this is due to the purchase of ea lmao

EA consistenly fires dev teams and shuts down studios- this has nothing to do with them being bought out

[loud mica]

Good morning soldiers

[acoustic spindle]

Typical doomsday battlefield whining

[rich torrent]

the white knighting is insane

[slender epoch]

be nice to the small indie studio

[loud mica]

I don't. I enjoy playing in the evening with my boys after work & gym. Havent had so much fun since BF3 was the last time till now

[acoustic spindle]

Nobody white knighting lol. I’m saying prove this has a negative effect on bf6. Studios layoff and restructure all the time between games

[marble stag]

Because the layofss impact departments that were already understaffed.

[loud mica]

Bro, too many cry babies. THIS LOBBY HAVE TOO MANY COD PLAYERS

Because too many lost souls out there. They feed each other from negativities

[covert fog]

How about try more games?

[acoustic spindle]

They should shut down the servers of all previous battlefields and put them all employees on bf6

[marble stag]

There's layoffs in all the studios under EA working on battlefield 6: DICE, Criterion, Ripple Effect and Motive.

[errant prism]

This has nothing to do with BF6 and everything to do with their overall strategy.

[marble stag]

Has nothing to do with != does not impact.

[marble stag]

It all has to do with making money

Anything else it affects simply is Collateral damage.

[acoustic spindle]

Imagine a business caring about profits

[sharp jacinth]

greed

[void nest]

They should streamline bf6

Remove all the stupid game modes refine the maps make more maps

Buff engineer and force people to play it

[marble stag]

Sorry, no more maps than we're already getting at current cadence.

[void nest]

I wouldn't mind if they locked all the old battlefields and moved everything to bf6

And spent all the time working on refining it

[marble stag]

Never going to happen, the current cadence is what we're going to have going forward.

[acoustic spindle]

🤷‍♂️ Im not one to dwell on unknowns and what ifs. Far more important things to have anxiety over

[balmy sinew]

[marble stag]

It's literally not an unknown. It was confirmed by Alexia Christofi that the current cadence in map releases is what we can expect moving forward because they are a team of certain size.

1-2 maps per season is the top most we can expect moving forward.

And the current cadence of content releases like weapons/vehicles.

Completely ignoring the temp content because it's garbage and a waste of time anyways

[acoustic spindle]

That was also announced prior to layoffs. So still no effect on that announcement until they say otherwise

[worthy karma]

a map from a previous bf game is their biggest project or whatever they said lmao so pathetic

[marble stag]

Yeah.. it was already established before the layoffs so that can't get any better

[marble stag]

They were already a team of "certain size" before the layoffs
And the layoffs impact all studios and departments

It's only logical to assume it's not going to do anything good.

[worthy karma]

2 seasons to add littlebird and dirtbike, 5 months and they still havent bothered with the slow ass weapon progression

[marble stag]

Bothered with what?

It's intentional, it's part of player retention tactics.

[worthy karma]

oh yeah the sense of pride and acomplishment ahahahaha

[void nest]

Yeah no the weapon progression is fucking awful

Should not take 200 rounds to unlock a fucking angled grip 💀

[worthy karma]

yeah now imagine casuals or people that arent that good at getting kills how long it will take them for just a single gun

me that gets lots of kills per round im already so bored with the grind imagine average players

[marble stag]

Artifically slow the progression, then hand out 2x XP events and Tokens as candy (rewards)

Artifically lengthen the season pass by adding in little amounts of Battlefield Coins that are useless unless you spend a little more money.
Also add in some XP boosters in the season pass, just to suck up another 10 points of your daily/weekly challenges (each!)

[worthy karma]

like, i put every smg, ar, carbine and lmg at lvl 20 and was planning on doing tier 1 or whatever its called in this game but i gave up on it as soon as i saw the amount of time u have to put for a single gun, now i might just do like 1k kills with a gun and move to the next one like i did in previous games

[marble stag]

Nothing is by accident lol.

[worthy karma]

around 200-300 kills with each just to get to lvl 20

[loud mica]

Bro, I don't need to play 100 games to keep my self entertained. Mention one game with quality like BF, destructions, squad play

[short ermine]

youre doing something wrong then cause 1k kills with any gun should get to level 50

[loud mica]

BF3 was like that

[void crow]

Let's see how next update goes. As it's written they will enhance hardware levelup

[loud mica]

You need to earn ur badge rank 50

And it is fair

[worthy karma]

my weapons with most kills is at 600, the others are at around 100-300 kills, so i dont really know how many kills it will take me to reach t1

[balmy sinew]

My G36E is level 45 🤤

So when I get 2 50 I will get a free skin 🗣️

[worthy karma]

got 634 kills with vcr and its lvl 28

[loud mica]

Wish we had BF3 system, for this gun u unlock various of scopes etc.

[peak garnet]

hello guys I’m a relatively new player to bf6, started to play bf again since bf4 is there any way to avoid playing against bots? Like in the settings or whatever?

[worthy karma]

just baffling its taking them this long to do anything

[worthy karma]

nope

play any bf before 2042 lmao

[marble stag]

You good?

[acoustic spindle]

Skill issue

[short ermine]

portal servers sometimes dont have bots. otherwise when a lobby is just starting up it will autofill

[worthy karma]

maybe portal servers but last i heard u wont get xp in those

[peak garnet]

alr thank u, I thought I just had weird settings or whatever

[marble stag]

Also 30hz

[acoustic spindle]

Skill issue

[loud mica]

More harder

[acoustic spindle]

Leave crossplay on. Play regular playlist matches instead of portal. Don’t filter maps out. Play open weapons. Play during peak times for your region. Best chance at full lobbies

[void crow]

Got 288 kills with the b36 and it's 38

[marble stag]

Pros: More matches
Cons: Shit maps

[worthy karma]

lol

[worthy karma]

how? u only play during 2xp weekends?

[void crow]

Even though i focus on x4 hardware, i get more exp getting kills/capturing on objectives because it stacks with you classic hardware exp which is very efficient

[worthy karma]

oh the tokens? ive never used a single one of those

if its because of those ill only use them when they make the timer to run out during gameplay only, because how it is right now is absolute bs

[void crow]

15 are usable full match as it's hard to win in less than 15 minutes, still you can activate them when the game starts and not from menus. For others, just need to know if you are going to play 1h or 30min as you will only loose 10% on loading/game prep

[worthy karma]

do they stack with 2xp weekends?

[void crow]

Also my tracker.gg is bugged as I only killed 27 with my LMR27 and got it 50 aha

[void crow]

yes

[worthy karma]

guess ill save them for the next 2xp weekend then ahahahaha

[vagrant merlin]

need redsec solos back please 😭 I miss it already... is there a launch date or second test window planned?

[worthy karma]

i hope they let it die

[acoustic spindle]

Neither as of now. But probably not until s3

[worthy karma]

piece of shit gamemode that shoulnt even be in the game

[vagrant merlin]

you can just play the other modes and not worry about it?

[worthy karma]

brother were in 2026 not 2019

plus, i have to deal with shitty br challenges in the battlepass and their time and resources going to that piece of shit gamemode

i hate everything about it

firestorm 2.0

[vagrant merlin]

well, thanks for the kind welcome, have a good evening lol

[worthy karma]

also it was a spit in the face to me and everyone that brought the game

mnaking it free

[worthy karma]

im sorry but it legits piss me off

[void nest]

Don't use anything custom, play during peak hours, play these modes:

conquest
breakthrough
escalation

[velvet kayak]

That’s a you problem - I ignore the battle pass and challenges. Just enjoy the actual game by PTFO.

[worthy karma]

yeah its a me problem when they care more about redsec than the actual game they sold us

[velvet kayak]

I only play MP, Redsec does not bother me

[raven mist]

They recently laid off Battlefield studios employees ut tell you all you need to know about how bad gane support is

[velvet kayak]

Everyone is speculating as to why as well

[worthy karma]

i didnt need that, i played trough bf5 and 2042 life cycles, u would need to be very innocent to think now it would be any diferent

[echo mantle]

EA Lays Off Staff Across All Battlefield Studios Following Record-Breaking Battlefield 6 Launch

What the fuck is management doing

[worthy karma]

plus littlebird not being in the game day 1 🤷‍♂️ slow weapon progression that would take like a afternoon to make changes its taking them almost half a year

[raven mist]

Pubkically traded being cancer like usual short term gains

[echo mantle]

Like genuinely
Noob devs and even dumber execs are what's ruining this game

[echo mantle]

Valve would never 🐐

[worthy karma]

hopefully the community doesnt forget about all this when they drop a trailer for the next game

[echo mantle]

They will

It's all the same for every fucking community

[worthy karma]

remember no pre orders? lmao

[raven mist]

I won't i didnt by V or 2042

[ripe hedge]

They said the same when they were displeased with 2042.

[echo mantle]

new game comes out
They all hate it
Next entry comes out
People suddenly say the previous entry was really good

[velvet kayak]

I’ve already got mine in

[worthy karma]

yeah, "my last battlefield i purchase" or "last ea product i buy"

[echo mantle]

Followed by a Reddit post of
"Hot take: [insert game] was incredibly underrated"

[worthy karma]

nice

[ripe hedge]

bf 6 is fun idk where the hate is coming from. EA is moving towards the right direction

ppl always needs soemthing to complain

[raven mist]

If this is the shit Battlefield is now im out v was alright when I played it on Gamepass but this nahhhhh

[velvet kayak]

Exactly

[echo mantle]

It's a good base to start off with
But dice isn't building off of it good enough

[raven mist]

They said old devs are returning that was what a year ago and nothing has happened

[quaint drum]

Hello 👋
I need some help.
I leveled my Kts100 to 35 but dont have any progress anymore. What i have to do?

[worthy karma]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

yeah game is fun, but saying they re goin the right direction...

[ripe hedge]

wdym ragebait. I have 800 hours in game buddy I really do enjoy playing it. Yall bunch of crybabies

[worthy karma]

i just said the game is fun lmao

[raven mist]

Enjoying playing and not like the support it's getting is different

[echo mantle]

800 hours too and I beg to differ
It's fun yes, but there are some glaring issues with the gameplay

[ripe hedge]

EA has changed. They're not what they used to be I can feel it

[worthy karma]

better a crybaby then have no or low standards

[raven mist]

Yeah greedier

[worthy karma]

low effort ragebait

[echo mantle]

Whoever at dice is in charge of armored vehicles in this game is

[velvet kayak]

Just enjoy the game 🙂

[warm elk]

Hello

[worthy karma]

believe me if i didnt i would have forgotten a long time ago

[echo mantle]

Yes
Just mindlessly consume the slop that the corporations give you

You will expect nothing and be happy

[ripe hedge]

& the new battlepass cosmetics are really cool

[worthy karma]

this guy gets it

[velvet kayak]

We all have great fun

[echo mantle]

I don't know what they were thinking with making the gepard so dogshit

[quaint drum]

Hello 👋
I need some help.
I leveled my Kts100 to 35 but dont have any progress anymore. What i have to do?

Hello 👋
I need some help.
I leveled my Kts100 to 35 but dont have any progress anymore. What i have to do?

[worthy karma]

were you by chance playing on portal?

[echo mantle]

Dual automatic cannon for hella fast fire rate and heat dissipation
And only one ammo type makes use of that fact poorly

[quaint drum]

Hi. No on casual multiplayer

I arrived before on 35 and i noticed its stuck

[echo mantle]

AP and MP ammo on the gepard firing 6 rounds at like 60 rpm is awful

Also runs out of ammo really quick so you're forced to camp somewhere with an ammo station nearby

[echo mantle]

The progress bar sometimes doesn't update properly
You'd be getting exp for a weapon but the bar would show no progress

[worthy karma]

oh idk then, i know in some portal servers your progress and stats wont go up

[quaint drum]

Thanks for the answer. So i don't loose progress?

[quaint drum]

Thanks

[echo mantle]

No
You'll just keep getting exp and you'll level it up eventually
I think the "progression" tab at the end of match screen shows a more accurate progression than the loadout one

[quaint drum]

Where van i find the progression tab?

[echo mantle]

When you finish a game it's one of the categories at the top that you can look at

Between "your squad" and "challenges"

[quaint drum]

Thanks for the help 👍

[vivid goblet]

Anything new today or just challenges ?

[solemn totem]

New challenges

🤔

[meager temple]

Layoffsfield6

[fallen furnace]

Yo

How do I get access to red sec

[meager temple]

It has been shut down, forever

[meager temple]

All of the paid actors that keep RedSec alive, including the talented devs who made a ton of revenue for EA, have been laid off, no more redsec rip rip

[fallen furnace]

Oh ok

[old turtle]

when will solo redsec comeback online?

[meager temple]

Their paycheck was split into bonuses for the most useless management and board at EA

never it was tImE LimItEd MoDe

[ripe hedge]

We don’t know that

[cursive temple]

Go to the redsec tab

[meager temple]

I spoke with them directly, its true

[cursive temple]

No you didnt

[meager temple]

I did pff

they also want to rename bf6 into rugpull6

[lilac saddle]

been on slow internet for a while with no voice coms , looking to team up

[meager temple]

what is also slow is how they provide meanigful updates and new content, small indie studio I bet they cooking something big

[lilac saddle]

like battlefield transformers eddition ?

[meager temple]

yee, something like that! BF is sooo back

Cant wait for BF to launch every year, for me to spend more money

Poor devs who got laid off. EA checked and saw they lost 95% of the player base, so they cant make enough money from microtransactions 🙁 Hopefully they will find a way to start charging us for every single bullet shot

[acoustic spindle]

You like to hear yourself talk

Spewing lies and garbage

[errant prism]

have they said anything about when they are removing the lobby disband after every match to fix matchmaking?

[meager temple]

Nah, I'm 100% right here, I know its hard for you to get out of your bubble made out of delusions, but its fine bro, you can do it

[lilac saddle]

how is operation ban all adults from the internet going ?

the governement must have known operation ban all adults would happen , the gov litterly spoke of puting kids in charge

lmfao

operation ban all adults from the internet wiki

[spice salmon]

no I don't want a cod clone.

[vivid goblet]

Anything new today or just weeklies ?

[lilac saddle]

discord server moderators strike again :/

how is battlefield matchmaking , is it better then online dateing ?

[vivid goblet]

Yes because you will always get ****** by server stability and hit reg

[somber schooner]

Did some of the staff actually get fired?

[lilac saddle]

savage

im guessing the staff get fired everyother week , so they dont develop a power complex ?

power complex's are nasty for everyone involed

[pale knoll]

Anyone think that adding a weekend playlist of say 3-5 most popular community made portal maps would be good? I don’t feel there’s a driver for people to make maps at the minute

[ripe hedge]

Spoke with who

[ripe hedge]

Yes

[meager temple]

Not ur business, pig

[ripe hedge]

No need to be rude

[meager temple]

pig

[ripe hedge]

I’m sure you don’t even play this game but just here to ragebait in chat.

[meager temple]

consume consume consume

[meager temple]

If you ask DICE nicely they might add a pig themed operator into bf6

[spice salmon]

i am trying to play duo still trying to find a match ahahaha

[orchid badger]

I said I'd be back in S6 when they've got their crap together but now idek if that's long enough with a skeleton Crew 😂

[ripe hedge]

S2 is not that bad! I am having fun grinding the bp

[meager temple]

ye pig, most fun you had in this game was grinding battlepass

[minor schooner]

Here are my feelings regarding the Battlefield franchise, once again! Another EA/DICE game, with their decisions, they managed to ruin! They proposed a live service with updates every 4 months, with obvious technical problems like matchmaking without persistent servers! The number of active players is plummeting! Thank you EA/DICE for ruining our fun once again! Is it really that hard to make a game? Have a great day and a good week everyone.

[tall jasper]

You’re gonna get muted buddy

Better behave

[somber schooner]

U tell em princess

[cursive temple]

Are you a game Dev?

[tall jasper]

Ngl you don’t need to be a game dev to see the matchmaking is shit

[cursive temple]

Do you know how the coding works?

[tall jasper]

I know that you’re supposed to actually get put in games

[cursive temple]

What?

[tall jasper]

There’s times where it literally doesn’t put you in games

[cursive temple]

Never had that problem you on pc?

[minor schooner]

No, I'm just an ordinary player! I paid for the Phantom Edition of the game like many of you, and today I feel disrespected by the wrong decisions that are always made! I didn't disrespect anyone, I didn't offend anyone! However, as a consumer who lives in Brazil and is forced to pay 2/3 of my salary for a game, I should at least have the right to complain about something that makes me unhappy.

[tall jasper]

Xbox, but it’s an issue my entire group has had and seemingly a lot of people on Reddit too.

[loud mica]

The world we live in, I feel ashamed. DOESNT MATTER WHAT THEY MAKE OR DO, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CRY BABIES. This game is not for everyone, or get GUD!

[cursive temple]

Or just try to troubleshoot on your end

[loud mica]

Stopped reading reddit 5 years ago they are corrupted

I swear, if reddit writes that they are your father. People will belive that

[hallow geode]

Never had that problem on PS5

[tall jasper]

It’s literally so weird icl 😭

[loud mica]

Other than campers hiding under tables or in bushes 🤣

[tall jasper]

Yeah man no offence if its an actual issue that hinders gameplay it’s fair to complain

[cunning moon]

So EA laid off staff from BF Studios, that makes a lot of sense why things got worse

[north tendon]

Anyone remember Karl-Magnus and the videos he did of inside DICE studios when BFBC was getting launched? Turns out he left after the BF3 release. Back then, it felt like BF was about to become this amazing thing with the Frostbite engine and destruction. I remember playing BF2MC, BFBC 1 & 2, then BF3 and never feeling bored. It was satisfying and I got to play with the same players each time I logged on… Now though, I’m yet to see a full server of just fellow Xbox players like the good old days… Last night whether cross play was on or off, it was as though each team was limited to 8 humans and the rest were bots. At one point, it was just me and bots!

[old tinsel]

Anyone remember Karl-Magnus and the videos he did of inside DICE studios when BFBC was getting launched? Turns out he left after the BF3 release. Back then, it felt like BF was about to become this amazing thing with the Frostbite engine and destruction. I remember playing BF2MC, BFBC 1 & 2, then BF3 and never feeling bored. It was satisfying and I got to play with the same players each time I logged on… Now though, I’m yet to see a full server of just fellow Xbox players like the good old days… Last night whether cross play was on or off, it was as though each team was limited to 8 humans and the rest were bots. At one point, it was just me and bots!

[fiery oxide]

Me when i queue the causal playlist

Where did the humans go???

[loud mica]

They have shadowban bro

[fiery oxide]

lol

[ember steppe]

where do i ask for teamups?

[neat reef]

One more week for a new map, weapons and a dirt bike

Season 4 or 5 will be dead when GTA comes out and BF laid off, they have no motivate

[loud mica]

Just join a voice channel and in no time ppl will join

[loud mica]

Good for you

[loud mica]

That's how I ended up finding teams bro. And found my own A team that we play daily together

[ember steppe]

dayummmm

[golden wigeon]

Well battlefield was a fun franchise peaked at battlefield 1, battlefield hardline is more inline to what battlefield was, yall ain’t hello games or CDPR who will double down and fix the game,

[void nest]

Peak battlefield 4 is widely considered the most traditional fps game and is fucking awful compared to battlefield 6 imo

[spice salmon]

if you don't put solo mode in redsec I will report you all! Just kidding lol.

[void nest]

Battlefield 4 is clunky with old graphics shot gun gameplay and shitty hud

Not to mention it's not half as fun as breakthrough

[shy pawn]

wild takes

[void nest]

Small cramped maps

Nu uh

[shy pawn]

small cramped maps in bf4?

[void nest]

Compared to breakthrough lol

[shy pawn]

i think youre talking about bf6 m8

[golden wigeon]

Nah grand operations was 1000% better than breakthrough. Bf6 has the smallest maps rn,

[void nest]

bf6 maps are def not small

[shy pawn]

they are fucking tiny

what are you smoking

[golden wigeon]

They are really small, conquest maps on ps3 BF4 and BF3 were bigger in scale lets put that up for reference, while we have “ hardware limitations” or lack of resources while the BR gets full support. Hmm seems like a lack of priority’s.

[void nest]

Average bf4 maps were around 3x bigger than bf6 maps

That's insane

[shy pawn]

if you wanted experience similar to breakthrough in bf4 just play rush

its the same formula but instead of flags you get mcoms

[void nest]

I only play breakthrough

Its so fun

[winter mountain]

so BF6 is dying as their staff fired?

[golden wigeon]

Yeah how add the 2x lavs 2x tanks 1x spaa, 1x attack heli, 1x transport 1x fighter 1x strike aircraft, the maps in bf6 are small those make it even smaller.

[shy pawn]

youre also omitting the fact that vehicles in bf4 were fun to play, in bf6 they feel bad af

[void nest]

If I owned bf6 I would gut the entire game preserve the primary three game modes and improve all basic qol issues

Then start adding more maps more guns and niches along with incentives to play engineer

[golden wigeon]

Yeah in conquest large on ps4 once they dropped support for ps3 yeah, it brought more breathing room to console, while PC had conquest large due to lack of storage and resources on the ps3 and Xbox 360 at the time

[neat reef]

we should see the roadmap for S3 soon in a few weeks hopefully

[shy pawn]

were getting only 1 map again?

[crimson garden]

Hello friend! Penguin says nice new map coming March 17th! ❤️ Huge fan of nice new map & March 17th Nightfall update = cool 😎

https://www.ea.com/en/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/news/battlefield-6-and-redsec-season-2-roadmap-everything-you-need-to-know

[shy pawn]

i love drip feed content 😍

[neat reef]

We need Naval maps in S3, 2 maps, roadmap soon to bring BF fans back

[hallow geode]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[crimson garden]

Penguin also of course wish more content was delivered already, but at least BF6 will get more and more over time, with some patience after seasons lots of content in total 😃

[golden wigeon]

I wonder if dice LA if they are still around will come in and fix this bc they did with bf4 after dice Stockholm messed up the launch.

[shy pawn]

Dice LA became ripple effect so no

[hallow geode]

DICE L.A worked on the BR and Gauntlet

[shy pawn]

they wont fix it cuz theyre already sacked lol

[hallow geode]

Just realised how fitting that is. Formerly DICE L.A made a map in California

Now we just need Rockstar to make a Scotland GTA since that's where the main studio works at

[crimson garden]

Friends, Penguin wonder, did you check the Friday 13th reference skin bundle? Penguin now waiting to see how many on online medias will complain that it looks too similar etc, while it's intended to be for Friday 13th! 😎

[golden wigeon]

Huh almost like ripple effect should have been the leads on this, but let’s give it dice who had the Star Wars Ip stripped from them by Disney,

[shy pawn]

honestly it doesnt matter anyway, OG devs that made old battlefields are not with the company anyway

and its also not the devs fault for moronic decisions that led to bf6 becoming what it is now

[fiery oxide]

Battlefront 2 wasn't even a bad game though

just awful monetization because of EA

[crimson garden]

Also nice new weekly challenges today in BF6 😃 😎 Penguin says that means lots more players will also progress further with the Battlepass today

[sonic saffron]

"kills using vehicle as a squad" im not doing this 💔

[neat reef]

Reroll per weekly or season?

[thin nexus]

prolly the most easiest thing ever

[worldly trail]

👀

[sinful knot]

Where is Gas mask in BR??? TF Dude!!

Another glitch, bug shit..

Why I can't switch properly weapon, it's give me back the same I have in hand, with empty ammo... Are you really fixing something there, or just firing the employees??

[loud mica]

We need a shrink in here

[tawdry mountain]

and a spelling teacher

[loud mica]

Bro, Kawasaki?

[loud mica]

You let me down, not friends anymore

[worldly trail]

I've got a grad psych degree, does that count? Only bad thing is I can't prescribe any happy pills

[fiery oxide]

What about unhappy pills?

[loud mica]

That's enough for these $&#+@&#

[golden wigeon]

It’s sad when gaijin is more honest and open with its game

[fiery oxide]

Are you living in an alternate timeline?

[tawdry mountain]

yeah 😄 im a motovlogger in denmark

[worldly trail]

New challenges out yet guys?

Last week's challenges were nice they were just simple ones

[loud mica]

Awesome, I own Yamaha YZF-R6 can't wait for season start

[tawdry mountain]

where u from?

[loud mica]

Norway

[tawdry mountain]

uh 😄

WE danes love to come to norway

[loud mica]

Yeah, 1 danish krone are like 16 Norwegians 🤣

[tawdry mountain]

im not sure i can post video links here

i can send u a dm

[crimson garden]

Penguin always friend 😎

[lunar raft]

If anyone down to play sometime today just hit me up I play conquest and I do have a mic

[loud mica]

Mic's in 2026 are very rare bro

[lunar raft]

Yeah lol 😂 it’s better to have mics just to chill and hang out

[crimson garden]

Penguin notice too it's rare to meet someone using mics properly 👉 🎙️ Often in random Squads, there's a Xbox player broadcasting different ambient sounds that needs to be muted eventually 🎣 Why Xbox players? Penguin don't know, but seems to be the trend

[cloud venture]

Anyone know what the new weekly challenges are? Like get 100 spots or sniper kills

[neat reef]

I believe all are different for everyone

[crimson garden]

Penguin says the Weekly Challenges can be slightly randomized, but it's like: Damage enemies as a squad, Kill x amount of enemies, 60 LMG kills etc

[hallow geode]

It's not more commonly an Xbox thing. It's just that 90% of PS5 players don't have crossplay turned on. Xbox doesn't have that luxury because their crossplay off population is a fraction of PS5's.

[cloud venture]

Thank you

[loud mica]

Penguin will save us all

[crimson garden]

Probably just Penguins matchup having that kind of ''rng'' lol

[hallow geode]

You wouldn't believe the stuff I hear in PS5 lobbies with crossplay off lol I hear everything from 6 7 screaming to people auditioning for x factor

[rotund zinc]

the netcode is fucking atrocious

[wide forge]

Most people Forget that the Controller got a mic hahaha

[rotund zinc]

i shoot first but then i get shot by a 2000rpm tavor !?

[loud mica]

Bad router, no adaptive SoQ

[rotund zinc]

soq ?

[wide forge]

Is someone good here in flying attack heli? I’m always flying scout but I love it to be a gunner too

[hallow geode]

I love it when they're doing something wild then I audibly hear them realising their mic is on and then they're silent the rest of the game 🤣

[wide forge]

Exactly 😭🤣

[arctic kelp]

THE WHAT

[wide forge]

Don’t fuck with my English I’m German 🙁

[arctic kelp]

No. If Xbox had that,the amount of lobbies that heard me and the wife over the years...

That's strictly PlayStation, right????

[hallow geode]

I assume so

Never came across an Xbox player sounding like they're talking to their legs

[arctic kelp]

Thanks. Had a minor heart attack

[hallow geode]

I wanna know what causes that hilarious echo noise where when 2 people have their mic hearing each other something happens where it starts doing this distorted beep sound then it ramps up and gets louder and louder and it honestly sounds so insane I just burst out laughing he first time I heard it

Tons of people have echos but what causes this specific one. It's so weird lol

[quick wolf]

feedback from stereo mix

[hallow geode]

Hmm yeah I figured it was probably like when you point a microphone at an amplifier

[loud mica]

QoS

[rotund zinc]

ah

let me check

i dont believe my router even lets me customize that much

[crimson garden]

Penguin wonder, you talk about something different than mic feedback?

[loud mica]

Had same problem, after I bought new one with that. I win every gun fight, as long I hit

[rotund zinc]

did u also get better hitreg?

[crimson garden]

When Penguin die it's often because: Simply didn't see the enemy 🤣 This still happens sometimes

[rotund zinc]

my biggest issue is getting one shot by a gun that should kill me in 5-8 hits

and only hearing 2 splats

yeah man... my router doesnt let me configure jackshit besides the ports

[charred rose]

This is how I die almost every time cuz I just sprint forward

[hallow geode]

I mean it's not the usual echo that you hear when someone's mic is picking up on someone else's mic. I'm not entirely sure how it works but as lmg player said feedback from stereo mix. So i guess that's what causes this beeping sound that gets all distorted and then repeats on a loop and gradually gets louder. Kinda like when you point a microphone at an amplifier. Although not sure if that's exactly the same as what's happening here.

My bad for the bible of text

[languid mural]

it is definitely a feedback loop

that shi gets loud fast

[hallow geode]

So like is it caused by both people having a kinect mic or one person having the TV speakers up loud or something?

[languid mural]

it is caused by the microphone picking up the speakers, which with a proper sound card/audio interface shouldn't happen but

[crimson garden]

Oh noes, don't worry about the amount of text friend, Penguin often read long forum posts etc! 😃 Penguin decided to get a Focusrite USB soundcard to manage up to 2 mics, to skip the problem entirely. Most USB soundcards will do friend

[weary vine]

Does anyone know what happened to the second character from the "hard luck" pack? At the start of season 2, there was a similar character to the one in the "hard luck" pack for the Assault.

[shadow rampart]

You can adjust gain in the game settings

[languid mural]

like for example, my cats chewed through my headphone cables a few days ago, and my mic is definitely capable of picking up what my speakers are doing but its legit just filtering it out so yeah

anyways, messages about EA executives are no longer being deleted here after these layoffs, thats a funny thing

[hallow geode]

Ok so if someone's mic picks up their OWN speakers then the other person with their mic turned on will then act as a vessel to turn that into a crazy loop? Or does the other person have to specifically be picking up their own speakers too?

[languid mural]

both

oh wait

yeah both

[hallow geode]

Ok I see

[crimson garden]

Gonna be careful about that 👉 🏃‍♀️‍➡️ To Penguin it can happen in every case, usually winning gunfights, but always some enemy who's just not detected 😮 Seems like the attacker came out of nowhere, usually it's just Penguin blindness 🎣

[languid mural]

dw penguin, its not your blindness, the game is just that way

if enemy is not spotted, its very easy for them to blend in

having 10 thousand particle effects on screen at all times doesnt help too

[crimson garden]

Penguin says czulekks explanation covers its: It's enough that your mic picks up its own amplified sound from a speaker, re-amplifying it in a continuous cycle, pretty quickly creating a high pitched noise.

Make sure that mic is not pointed towards your speakers, (Headphones would eliminate the issue entirely though)

[rotund zinc]

ngl i might have to swap to a different supplier

iptv might be getting prioritized

[crimson garden]

Penguin wonder, you run into packet loss situation in BF6?

[rotund zinc]

havent noticed it

the main problem i find is pretty much getting killed by people who react last and kill me regardless

[charred rose]

Use sniper rifle either you one tap or perish

[rotund zinc]

and then only hear 2 splats and being in the respawn after getting killed by an average gun

[void nest]

Okay I think I havvve my opinon on the best build in bf6

support
fire support
lang skin

kv9
long suppressor
6.5 extended
slim angled
23 round mag
tungsten core
mini flex 1.0x
boreal camo

l85a3
lightened suppressor
646mm lsw
classic vertical
polymer case
baker 3.0x

m44
8.37 long
hollow point
3vzr 1.75x
boreal camo

portable mortar or defib
incendiary launcher
smoke grenade
sledgehammer

[crimson garden]

Penguin wonder, what would your average latency be? If your latency is sometimes high👉 🦢 that might explain fully this part. But if your latency is short 👉 then latency won't explain anything. side note👉 (A weapon with fast vs slow ADS time can also make up for latency differences, at least as a practical difference, Penguin just trying to understand) 🚀

[rotund zinc]

never turned it on

lemme check

34ms

[crimson garden]

Penguin pretty sure it's not latency alone causing what you described, 34ms is good friend. Maybe sometimes it spikes depending on how impacted the internet in your local area may/may not be during different times of the day.

[rotund zinc]

i literally just got killed immediately by an mp5 with 20 dmg each shot

[fiery oxide]

It's just how the game is

[crimson garden]

Penguin also big fan of Fire Support class, KV9 also nice TTK 😃 Magazine empty fast, Penguin could do some rounds with that setup sometimes 😎 Especially KV9 in CQB

[fiery oxide]

You can't do anything about it

[formal forge]

Is there like nobody playing right now? I'm having trouble finding full lobbies.

[crimson garden]

Penguin says US servers players are sleeping, and lots of EU players still at work. (As for this specific hour ⏰ )

[fiery oxide]

NA matchmaking has been wonky for awhile

Complain about it on twitter and reddit

[deep bronze]

Bro. Why is there so much pc cheats on this game

[loud mica]

Animals are better than humans

[solemn nimbus]

A large number of people are boycotting due to Season 2 failure to deliver on promises and then requiring people pay $25 per Battle Pass Pro , regardless of battle coins or previous Battle Pass Pro purchase.

Maybe when they address that I'll come back. All my friends quit for the same reason. 200+ hours for most of us and we aren't coming back without them doing something to address our concerns.

[loud mica]

I am on 874 hours now and love it

[solemn nimbus]

This isn't WoW. I'm not paying $75 a year to play a game I already sank $100 into. They are delusional.

[rich torrent]

Every game with a "pro" pass charges per Season.

[solemn nimbus]

I do to, but not playing until they deal with concerns.

$25?

And frankly I'd pay some, but I'm not paying that much.
I've got kids and other priorities. I'm not paying that much for something I play casually.

[rich torrent]

So don't buy it. 💀

[solemn nimbus]

I didn't.

[loud mica]

I did

[solemn nimbus]

And I'm not playing either.

[stuck sorrel]

I hate seasons

[loud mica]

And will buy every month

[rich torrent]

Then why are you complaining?

[loud mica]

Every season

[solemn nimbus]

You miss the rest of my comments or something?

Someone asked why they only find bots, so I chimed in.

[mossy dew]

omg bro weapon progression kinda slow ngl

[stuck sorrel]

don't buy this game, you're better off saving for new game this year

[valid roost]

Chimed in with nonsense lol

[stuck sorrel]

I'm done with Betas

[rich torrent]

Except you talked about the pro pass being per season, hence why I replied purely about that lmao.

[mossy dew]

for some reason i have more time playing when im employed than when im unemployed

[solemn nimbus]

I'm obviously not the only person dissatisfied. Go ahead and be dismissive and act like I'm being ridiculous but obviously I'm not alone. Everyone I know that plays this game has stopped playing.

[shadow rampart]

1200 hrs on Steam you could say I'm enjoying myself

[solemn nimbus]

Battle Pro is my major complaint, yes. I haven't purchased it. I'm explaining why I'm not playing, which is part of why others aren't playing, which is why the game is lacking players, which is why bots are in matches. You following?

[rich torrent]

I'm in Australia and can still find full games at 11pm during the week. 🤷‍♂️

Australia and California have roughly the same population for reference.

[valid roost]

"Im not playing, and people are boycotting the season because of an optional pass"...said pass just gives you a radio station, 9 cosmetics, and 25 tier skips and the Battle Pass

The BP in this game remains very fair. Complete the previous seasons > get enough boins to get the next seasons. The fact that they also reduced the XP requirement for levels, and also dramatically improved the quality of the weekly challenges makes it even fairer (Much less FOMO than last seasons). The BP rewards are also much improved in Season 2

BF6 is not without issues, far from it...but this is legit a nothing burger.

[shadow rampart]

EST Breakthrough I dont get bot/18v18 games until 2am. Then I just leave game and remove that map from search and usually get a full game

[rich torrent]

I love when people come swinging with confidence just to be wrong.

[solemn nimbus]

Cool, if it doesn't bother you. Check the steam reviews, obviously not a nothing burger.

[rich torrent]

And yet BF6 still has more players than previous titles. 🤔

[loud mica]

Respect

[valid roost]

Steam reviews mentioning the pro pass is legitimately a skill issue. Reading comprehension these days is beyond terrible.

"What do you mean the season 1 pro pass doesnt give me the season 2 pro pass also!!!"

[solemn nimbus]

The copium you are inhaling is pretty impressive stuff. lol

[rich torrent]

This.

[solemn nimbus]

Okay guys. If you say so.

[valid roost]

The pro pass is a pretty stupid inclusion...but thats the current gaming climate. Everything that can be monetized, will be monetized.

[rich torrent]

Majority of games with a premium pass charge per season, reading isn't hard.

[valid roost]

The majority of games also dont let you earn the next season pass, by playing the game and completing the current one.

[solemn nimbus]

the level of projection is unreal. I haven't seen this since talking to a feminist. lol

[rich torrent]

Name one game with a "Pro" pass that isn't charged per season.

[valid roost]

stating an opinion is projection now? Just saying words you dont understand doesnt make you smart. Especially in the context and form you used it

[charred rose]

You don't need to be able to read to play this game

[valid roost]

Maybe to use some of the settings menus haha

[charred rose]

People 100% saw the word pro and then bought it didn't read anything else

W consumers of the glorious game

[valid roost]

They could have made some things clearer regarding the things you got with the phantom edition, and or the pro pass in general. Lots (myself included) had no real clue what the pro token even did until 3/4 days before launch (When that info was added for context)

But the information was there on the purchase pages.

[crisp plover]

I ain'ts got time to read, I need to get to Colonel 100! Now where's my shit bucket?

[faint shore]

double XP?

is there double XP?

[gleaming totem]

Ugh, this are very unfun weeklys for me personally... and the rerolls didn't work at all, get sniper rifle kills got rerolled with sniper rifle kills, and win matches in rush got rerolled into win matches in rush. 🙈

[neat raptor]

Anybody on battle royale

[faint shore]

No

[ripe hedge]

is here even staff mods or devs in chat? looks a bit wild west to me

[rich torrent]

Just play the game. 💀

[faint shore]

I do, but only when there's double xp

And I wanna play so bad 😭 I just unlocked the VCR at the end of the last double xp weekend

[ripe hedge]

How many days left till battle pass ends

[rich torrent]

You would get more done with the amount of time without DXP then you would catching up during DXP.

[faint shore]

it's not about that, it's about the amount of time spent with the weapon with poor attachments

It doesn't help that they moved the classic vertical and long/lightened suppressor to the end of the grind on the VCR

[gleaming totem]

we are now in week 4, there are 12 weeks in total

[faint shore]

I remember on the TR7 the classic vert was one of the first things you unlock

[rich torrent]

Why would you need classic vertical or lightened suppressor?

[dusk haven]

If you want to level a weapon you hate just go recon, place c4 on a road/bail out onto a vehicle, put c4 on it and then shoot the c4, all kills/destroys count for the weapon

[ripe hedge]

ok i buy premium bp edition then for fast lvl up

[crisp plover]

Why need attachments? Go in raw, baby!

[faint shore]

cause that's what I use

[rich torrent]

Pointless attachments for the VCR.

[valid roost]

Honestly, if you are so bad with shooting players...that you need to do this to gain XP. Why even use weapons at all haha

[rich torrent]

Ribbed Stubby, Long Suppressor and Light Barrel.

[gleaming totem]

I mean, I see wanting a suppressor (even after the nerf), but it's not like guns are that different with some attachments

[valid roost]

I prefer the long suppressor on many guns, but the lightened is also pretty good

[charred rose]

tr-7

[gleaming totem]

Not including some stuff like KV9 / scw mag size, or shotguns getting their slugs

[dusk haven]

Its not a matter of being bad at shooting players lol, its just an easier method of gaining xp on weapons like pistols or shotguns, personally I'm fine I have everything at 40 except shotguns so far

[valid roost]

I cant see how it would be easier. What do you do, just sit there and hope a vehicle passes? And that the driver of that vehicle is blind enough to miss the explosives?

Maybe this explains what half my team are doing each game.

[dusk haven]

Not exactly, the main time I'd use this is if they have armour camping at the back use it to destroy tanks etc

Same goes for shooting enemy mines when enemy armour drives over it, another method that works well

[charred rose]

You act like battlefield players look at the road in this game #screenshots-and-clips message

[valid roost]

Pistols fair enough(Tho this is improving in next patch). Shoguns are not bad for XP gain. Just custom search for only cairo, empire state and other small maps

[gleaming totem]

The issue is I can't camp an enemy mine for ages until some tank runs over it, without blowing me away anyways

[dusk haven]

Again, I'm not saying this is the only way to gain xp, for some players this will help. For most its just whatever!

You don't need to camp an enemy mine, but just take note of where mines are, if you hear a tank coming or see it heading your way on the map, you can use it against them, if not you can just clear the way for your own armour

Not to mention the countless portal experiences that help with different guns/playstyles to level them up easier

[valid roost]

Its just not a good/consistent way to get XP. Sure its possible, but a player struggling to get pistol kills, probs isnt gonna have much success with this strat either 😄

[gleaming totem]

Meanwhile, I'm just using the new recon toy to destroy everything in sight, and even out of my sight, as soon as the charge is ready again

[dusk haven]

Not consistent, no but its something, if the player can't kill other players, why not try setting traps like I said, traps on objectives, helps the team etc. Doesn't have to be off in the middle of nowhere

[wise talon]

i quess its good against drones?

[dusk haven]

Its good against everything, honestly I love the thing, getting a triple kill with an enemies grenade is a beautiful experience

[gleaming totem]

It's good against everything. Grenades, C4, grenade launcher

[rich torrent]

The new recon gadget could use a nerf tbh, goes through walls till atleast 80m from what I've used.

[gleaming totem]

Most of my grenade kills by now are not done by my own grenades

[gleaming totem]

60m it is

[wise talon]

nerfing is lazy optimization

[gleaming totem]

Honestly, I also think it needs to be nerfed when I use it, but... so far I never got killed by someone using it on me, so it doesn't seem to be some new overused meta gimmick, having many fans there

[dusk haven]

I think it actually has extended range when you toggle the zoom on its scope, up to around 70m I think

[rich torrent]

Most people wouldn't have gone for it over the weapons.

[gleaming totem]

Oh, this could be true. Never use the zoom tho

[rich torrent]

It needs to have its range limited or force line of sight to destroy something.

[shadow rampart]

If the new recon gadget is OP then EOD bot is super duper ultra mega OP

[dusk haven]

I only do when I'm scanning for beacons, to catch people behind

[gleaming totem]

If it needs LoS its useless trash again, because then I can't use it against spawn beacons

[wise talon]

no. Let experience it. Then lets figure out.

[charred rose]

Nerf Wall-E

[shadow rampart]

No

[rich torrent]

I've used this gadget for a good 20 hours now.

[charred rose]

Does too many things too useful

[rich torrent]

It needs tuning.

[dusk haven]

You either nerf wall-e or you let the recon drone recharge like wall-e does

[charred rose]

Balance over realism

[rich torrent]

If they want to keep it usable through walls, the range needs to be lowered.

[gleaming totem]

Wall-e destroying tanks is my favorite realism

[charred rose]

Lil tank shattering goober love it

[dusk haven]

Idk i think you're at quite a disadvantage scanning walls making the loud buzzing sound, you can't exactly shoot anyone with it if they catch you

[wise talon]

if we want realism. Why players come in front of supressive fire - take damage and still manage to kill.

[rich torrent]

With the range it has, you're never at risk.

[gleaming totem]

Eh, I think best nerf would be increasing the switch time.

Issue is you seeing an enemy, getting behind cover, pulling out the jamming gun, and waiting for his grenade

[dusk haven]

The range is only further when zoomed in, meaning you are seeing less around you
Also you have to check what you're destroying if you actually want to be dangerous with it, smashing the fire button you'll likely just destroy a motion sensor and a random mine or two

[gleaming totem]

Increase the time needed to switch to the gadged a bit, as well as it's ADS time, and suddenly using it out is a much bigger commitment

[crimson garden]

Penguin got weekly challenge: 100 Kills using vehicles as a Squad 100

[rich torrent]

And that's the issue,

Long range, goes through walls - you never need to be in danger to use this. There's no risk and all reward.

[gleaming totem]

Destroying some motion sensor or mine is still a general win in my eyes.

Not the jackpot, but still

[rich torrent]

The problem is it can be used from complete safety and you get rewarded.

[dusk haven]

True its good to destroy them, but because of how common they are, theyre often just leftovers haha, then you get resupply crates you can also destroy them with it

[dusk haven]

Almost like a mortar?

[valid roost]

They should 100% remove the EOD bots mines, but give it more HP.

I dont die much to the EOD bot, or its mines...but that thing is needlessly strong, offense wise (Just lacking a bit in utility)

[plain shuttle]

lately ive been feeling like BF dont want us to stay in the game,,, its like making us leave the game and not play it 😄

[rich torrent]

Mortar has the drone to counter it, helis in most modes and BT you're forced into the play area.

What counters does the recom gadget have?

None.

[gleaming totem]

Again, I somewhat agree with you there. But it really doesn't seem that big of an issue. I never got hit by this stuff myself, so it really doesn't seem to be that big

[dusk haven]

Any infantry

[gleaming totem]

The recom gadget IS the counter. You just gun it down

[rich torrent]

Long range, goes through walls.

You don't have to expose yourself.

[valid roost]

Its the type of gadget that doesnt need a counter. Like an APS or a repair tool.

[dusk haven]

The mortar is extremely long range and goes over all the walls

Even destroys buildings

[shadow rampart]

After 1200 hours I tried binding Spot/Ping to scroll wheel down and it's a game changer

[cloud pecan]

The crying about "realism" in a video game is crazy. Go enlist.. There's your "Realism"...

[gleaming totem]

If you just scan the wall on long range, you cover barely anything, and do nothing else for the objective. It's a gamble.

If you hit some grenade, you got a benefit, if you don't, you make it a 31vs32 instead

[rich torrent]

And has counters.

I don't need to be worried about getting shot when I'm behind my whole team aiming through a wall.

[shadow rampart]

Scroll wheel spotting makes it so easy to spot head glitching snipers

[dusk haven]

If you're behind your whole team, chances are you won't be finding much within the drone guns range

If anything you'll mostly be making sure your team doesnt get spawned behind

[rich torrent]

Map sizes would like a word.

[gleaming totem]

come on, this is no sniper rifle. You are still in the potential action range

[charred rose]

I use mine to slide what's the benefit of using it to spot

[dusk haven]

Ive used the drone gun a lot and to be actually effective you'll need to be close to the front lines to make the most of it

[rich torrent]

Cairo, Iberian, Empire especially.

This gadget can cover most of the objectives.

[shadow rampart]

You can just spam the scroll wheel constantly when not shooting

[gleaming totem]

And Cairo, Iberian and Empire also allow a lot of flanking, to shoot you jammer guy in the back

[rich torrent]

That's not a hard counter though.

That's just someone playing the game.

[gleaming totem]

ofc it is, your scanning angle isn't that wide

[valid roost]

Doesnt it have extremely limited charges tho? Its not like you can sit there and solo area deny

[dusk haven]

It gets 3 uses and has a chunky recharge time, its not exactly the iron dome of stopping grenades and missles

[candid edge]

Morning ladies!

[charred rose]

I guess yeah. Having the info helps.

[rich torrent]

Killing someone with a gun isn't a hard counter.

[gleaming totem]

I can see it getting some special nerf for some domination / king of the hill tho, but not for general conquest

[shadow rampart]

Also gives info to teammates. Like if I'm using an SMG I'm still spotting people that I see far away for my team

I'm like #30 world for assists lol

[gleaming totem]

It beats grenades, so the counter is whatever doesn't use a grenade

[dusk haven]

Doesn't it just constantly ping though? Or is that disabled for you?

[rich torrent]

Do you know what a hard counter is?

[charred rose]

I have like 2.5k or something from drone assists that I got very early on it's very helpful to the team and you can watch them clear buildings in real time

[gleaming totem]

I can ask you the same, because that recon gadget is exactly that

[shadow rampart]

It does ping ya lol. But only squad mates see that and I don't really think anyone cares

[dusk haven]

That would drive me insane but I guess the tradeoff could be worth it haha

[gleaming totem]

It hard counters grenades. That's it.

[rich torrent]

The drone is a hard counter to mortars.

Shooting someone on a mortar with a gun isn't.

[shadow rampart]

I'm not actually constantly scrolling, but if I see movement, etc

[rich torrent]

So shooting someone using the recon gadget isn't a hard counter.

[dusk haven]

The hard counter is that it cannot shoot you

[shadow rampart]

So even if I don't get a spot the pings are a good place to look for my squad mates

[dusk haven]

It doesnt fire anything at you, they are defenseless

[gleaming totem]

Lol, if killing the stationary guy is no counter to you, then I'm out of here

[rich torrent]

Please learn the difference between counter and hard counter.

They are separate things.

[dusk haven]

Yeah i get you, sorry i was thinking about infinite scroll mouses and imagining the pings 😂

[olive coral]

A bit pedantic.

[shadow rampart]

Could also use mouse thumb buttons but I use for melee/grenades

[dusk haven]

You also have to remember if theyre using it through walls they will likely be staring at walls too, not facing the direction of any danger

A literal free kill

[gleaming totem]

What do you even want then? Go on, tell us your great idea to provide us a hard counter for a gadget with the single purpose of hard countering other gadgets

[valid roost]

Counter = shooting them in the face

[gleaming totem]

I said this multiple times already he doesn't accept that ☹️

[rich torrent]

It can't be hard countered, hence why I said it needs to be tuned.

Either less range and keep the aiming through walls or remove the aiming through walls and keep the range.

[dusk haven]

I need a hard counter for being melee'd from behind, I can't do anything against it, I just die

[olive coral]

This is like getting mad at somebody for mistaking penne pasta for ziti

[valid roost]

I dont think it matters enough for them to need to worry about nerfing it.

[shadow rampart]

They should have made recon drone recharge like EOD bot instead of adding the new gadget imo

[dusk haven]

If they remove the ability to use it through walls, you may as well SHOOT the gadget.

[rich torrent]

It's like y'all have never played a video game before honestly.

[rich torrent]

So limit the range, simple.

[gleaming totem]

I'm fine with them being differend things. Drone spotting is goated tho

[dusk haven]

So how is it meant to counter missles from extremely close range? Or drones higher than 30m?

[shadow rampart]

You can blow up grenades in ppls hands with the new gadget lol

[gleaming totem]

Just say you want to kill the functionality.

What you remove is their ability to be a counter against spawn beacons

[dusk haven]

Literally a drone gun and you want to make it so it can't reach drones that are... flying?

[rich torrent]

Risk and reward, pretty simple.

[rich torrent]

Limiting the range isn't ruining the gadget, it's providing a better balance of risk and reward.

[dusk haven]

There's no risk and reward for that though. Its a recon gadget. The recon has no need to help the armour block incoming missles but it can if it wants and theyre fast enough with the current range

[shadow rampart]

Just limit it to one charge that recharges faster

[valid roost]

Bro will ask for it to be nerfed, then complain when said gadget is no longer fun to use. Optimizing and balancing the fun out of games is not the best idea. Especially for harmless gadgets like this one IMO

[deep bronze]

Anyone else constantly get teams full of level 100s +

Yet they all struggle and can’t comprehend capturing objectives.

[high crystal]

yeah all the time, constant little chinese tramps on 150 ping

[dusk haven]

You'd think people were being killed by the drone gun constantly, if you had never seen it and read this chat

[gleaming totem]

As if the level 100s would comprehend stuff better

[rich torrent]

I've used this gadget for around 20 hours and it's free kills.

[deep bronze]

Me and my pal are rotating between 2 objs and everyone else is on 3 or less flag captures……

[shadow rampart]

Every single game I'm 1v24

[dusk haven]

In reality its just the first actually fun to use and useful gadget, other than the upgraded wall-e

[gleaming totem]

Again, I get it. I use it too, and on domination it's crazy.

And yet, I was not killed by it myself a single time so far

Not once

[rich torrent]

How would you know?

It doesn't show in the kill feed, it'll be a nade, etc.

[dusk haven]

Use the drone gun as a baseline for how useful/fun a gadget should be

[valid roost]

Cant be having that tho. Nerf it til its not fun, or used anymore. It MUST be balanced and have a counter!!! 😛

[gleaming totem]

??? If my own grenade explodes in my hand I probably notice it

[charred rose]

What's that you better not be having fun over there

[dusk haven]

It shows in the kill feed sometimes

[plucky moon]

Seems like battlefield 6 is slowly falling off. EA fired a lot of employees

[rich torrent]

No it doesn't.

[olive coral]

A hard counter

[dusk haven]

Yes it does.

[rich torrent]

It'll show you got killed by a nade, could be them just throwing one.

[shadow rampart]

Happens with every AAA game

Its how the industry works

[dusk haven]

If you destroy something that isnt a weapon, like a beacon, or other placement gadget. It does a tiny amount of splash damage and can kill players

[rich torrent]

Unbalanced items don't make a game fun, just look at RPGs and TOWs.

[dusk haven]

Did you know guns can shoot grenades? Even enemy ones, i need a hard counter to bullets

[gleaming totem]

What the hell are you talking about.

I want to throw grenade.
I blow up, without noticing anyone throwing a grenade myself.

I can do 2+2=4 basic maths. I conclude, nasty recon killed me, especially if he was 45 meter away behind a wall

But so far, this never happend to me

[rich torrent]

Half the time nade indicators don't even work. 💀

[gleaming totem]

So far, I always survived my grenade throws like that

🤷‍♂️

[valid roost]

Its not unbalanced

[charred rose]

How is the rpg not fun

[gleaming totem]

Also, so far I don't see an army of spec ops recons going mid range every round either

[rich torrent]

I think averaging 10 kills with this gadget from safety through walls every match is stupid.

[gleaming totem]

totally underrated anyways

[dusk haven]

10 kills only

Thats not exactly winning the match for the team

You'd spend a lot of time sitting there waiting for recharges

[rich torrent]

Completely missed the point there, nice.

[gleaming totem]

If it's 10 kills on avg every match, you probably have the gadget more in hand than your gun

[dusk haven]

Not really? I mean if you want to, you can get 10 kills avg with any gadget you want

[gleaming totem]

That's truly not the big reward we need

[olive coral]

I didn't even know people were using that recon missile buster gadget tbh.

[dusk haven]

So whats the difference

[gleaming totem]

It's fun, really

[olive coral]

What a nothing argument this seems to be.

[rich torrent]

Again, missed the whole point.

[dusk haven]

So make it clearer. They are safe?

A mortar can average 10 kills from the safety of their back flag

[rich torrent]

It's free kills, absolutely no risk.

60m to 80m, whatever it is through walls.

[dusk haven]

All whilst suppressing several flags

[rich torrent]

Helis, jets, drones.

Plus the mortar is just bad lmao.

[dusk haven]

I'm sorry drones are not a counter, they are a delay, any support player has a crate next to them and has the next mortar ready to go.

[rich torrent]

But they are.

Drones can be resupplied too.

[olive coral]

Which is why killing them is the hard counter

[rich torrent]

So we're back to square one.

[dusk haven]

Not by the person who deployed the drone, the mortar player resupplies themself

[exotic maple]

did portal get fixed or is it still ded

[olive coral]

Drone busting a mortar is just a troll move to the support player tbh. No counter at all.

[rich torrent]

And one drone can take out tonnes of mortars.

[ripe hedge]

You can get a new one from your ammo box so I don’t see what’s the issue

[olive coral]

That's what I'm saying

[ripe hedge]

Oh nvm

[olive coral]

It's not a real counter, just a "ha, gottem" for a moment.

[crimson garden]

Penguin notice in breakthrough, when Penguin detect that armor needs to push then Penguin choose to play as Combat engineer to assist friendly armor. But instead friendly armor decided to just camp at the back of the map and let team lose, Penguin probably not the only one having experienced this?

[gleaming totem]

discussion truly gets too silly for me now, have a nice day

[ripe hedge]

I wish ammo refill box was given to engineer instead of support

[olive coral]

Been there for me since I opened this discord but I'm at work trying to kill time so lol

Ammo should be with assault IMO

[gleaming totem]

Yeah, but now I have to do other things for real 🙈 🙊

[olive coral]

Same

[ripe hedge]

I’d love to spam rockets at tanks & aircrafts

[olive coral]

Yeah engineer would be massively OP if they all had infinite ammo lol

[crimson garden]

Nice rocket on airplane and heli = nice BF6 action Penguin thinks 😎 🚀 That's not any news, but nice rocket hit on flying object = cool 😎

[olive coral]

I think I hit a jet with an RPG once?

[rich torrent]

Still don't see why engineer needs 5 Rockets and 9 mines.

[eternal cedar]

anyone wanna play

[olive coral]

I agree that's a lot

[gleaming totem]

My best moment of feeling like a god was hitting a black hawk with two rockets back to back, and it wasn't one if the low hovering ones

[crimson garden]

Hello friend, if you're on bit later today as well, maybe Penguin & friend can team up with you. We usually focus objective 😃

[ripe hedge]

I like ptkm- 1r better than mines

[olive coral]

I had a particularly nice little bird hit the weekend contaminated came out. Felt awesome. I never had two back to back lol I've hit more helis with RPGs in BF6 than I have in all other games combined but I still ain't that good

[eternal cedar]

if anything just shoot me a message

[rich torrent]

I'm keen to see what the RPG and TOW nerfs will be though, was hoping we were getting those at the S2 start.

[olive coral]

I found they never went off when I used them, so I checked a video guide on how to use them and saw they were horribly inconsistent in control tests so I gave up on it.

[crimson garden]

For sure friend, Penguin and @maiden aurora from this chat also tend to team up often, you're 100% welcome

[gleaming totem]

honestly, we need solid Anti air beyond RPG first

[ripe hedge]

Depends on where you place them. Placing them at uneven surfaces with no vision doesn’t get you any output from this gadget

[olive coral]

Reduce RPG velocity, increase flare cooldown.

[gleaming totem]

lock on feels terrible

[shadow rampart]

They did nerf RPG. Ads is slower and also movement speed while ADS. And hipfire is worse

[rich torrent]

Lock ons would be better if the countermeasure timers were like BF4.

[olive coral]

But I thought they were sound based, then shoot up into the sky. Theoretically they could work from behind a short wall.

[rich torrent]

These aren't the issue though

The velocity is

[gleaming totem]

About the lock ons I think the flares are not even the biggest issue, more the interruption of random tree or pilot just flying low enough to interrupt every lock on instantly

[olive coral]

The reason RPGs are all you see is countermeasures are too OP for lock-ons, and RPG is too easy to use on helis because it fires so fast.

[shadow rampart]

I'm #3 world RPG kills lol

[gleaming totem]

and to fix that, we got another lock on rocket that needs line of sight even longer

[flat cliff]

Not sure if new, but there's a redeemable soldier skin from the Nvidia App

[olive coral]

Also yeah I basically only ever see ace pilots in my matches I guess because they all so easily avoid fire. Duck behind mountains, into ravines, etc.

[gleaming totem]

reason why I avoid manhatten bridge like the plague by now. It's the default maps for all the 80/1 pilots

[olive coral]

That's why I like Blackwell for anti-air challenges because there's not much chance for aircraft to hide.

Manhattan and Liberation Peak are especially good for helis ruining the matches for sure.

Manhattan never should've had a heli in it. I can see Liberation but come on.

[meager temple]

only thing wild is you pookie

[ripe hedge]

🤡

[river fox]

Its fine its been 25 years

[olive coral]

Never forget lol

[ripe hedge]

did you hear that little bro?? the agent I sent is going to ban you from this public network if you keep harassing me

[olive coral]

It was actually more of a racial comment than a comment about 9/11 itself

But I digress

[river fox]

What race, only race is humanity 🤔

[olive coral]

Ah yes I too don't see race at all

[river fox]

The fixation on physical differences is a very American ideal

[olive coral]

But that's all, this obviously isn't the place.

[meager temple]

its not that deep, dude have pig on prof pic

[olive coral]

I'm not talking about anything that was said today lol

About another user a week or two ago

[round forge]

Brazil??

I'm from Brazil, and you?

[meager temple]

Brazil number one

[olive coral]

[tight prism]

Looking for regular players 20+
Asia/EU/Oceania

[void nest]

Uwu

[plucky moon]

A number of layoffs from EA is crazy

In battlefield studios

[topaz plinth]

[ripe hedge]

I play in Asia

Helicopter main

[spiral verge]

Hard agree

[stuck sorrel]

this game is unplayable

the weapons and teammates are rage inducing

like how hard is it to smoke the enemy so we can push!?!

[spiral verge]

Channel that rage. Own them on the battlefield

[stuck sorrel]

I'm always stuck with a team that just runs into enemy fire

[spiral verge]

Yeah people not using smokes really grinds my gears

[stuck sorrel]

watched half my team get mowed down without taking any cover

[spiral verge]

This is why we need persistent servers, to help build a strong community that's objective focused

Otherwise it's just a random clusterf**k of lone wolves not using their brains

[small talon]

what is with escalation players i keep getting paired with dude

like

team does fine for the first two rounds then every braincell evaporates

[ripe hedge]

They don’t play for objectives. They get more excited looking at the scoreboard & their kda rankings

[small talon]

Battlefield isnt the game for that 😭

Its like the one fps game I play that I dont care about how many kills I get

[bright latch]

Wth happend to the guns

[small talon]

If you want to up your KDA go play deathmatch

[bright latch]

Guns aint doing any dmg

[small talon]

Laggy netcode probably

I was having some issues earlier

[dry halo]

anyone redeemed the BF6 Nvidia promo skin? wondering where it might be located after redeeming lol

[crimson garden]

Penguin just redeemed the skin now 😃 Will figure out soon friend

[crimson garden]

Alright friend, Penguin just checked, the skin is under Kahina Unite, Pax Armata Engineer skin named: Advancing Gloom 😃

[valid roost]

Beat me to it haha

[dry halo]

Thaaank you fren

[valid roost]

Legit tho...the way you select soldier camos/skins in BF6 is legit irritating.

[dry halo]

yeah i loved the BF4 way myself

[ripe hedge]

dahmmit they banned me from marathon server for asking refund

[inner swan]

And you needed to announce it here because...?

[valid roost]

I get that they want to have the units/factions separated...but its extremely unfriendly to the end user to have it work as it currently does

[ripe hedge]

i wanted to buy bf6 premium battlepass with the refund money

[dry halo]

Legit i only know i unlocked some skins after someone tells me "yoo, this seasons skins are actually better" so yeah xD

[valid roost]

The units/factions thing is fine for a legend, or bio area. But id much prefer to select Class > Be immediately able to see ALL the skins/camos I can use for that class/faction

Which you can actually do in RESEC pre-game lobby, but not in the loadout screen

[dry halo]

tru

[inner swan]

You can discuss other games in #general, but I'd say your account penalties for other franchises, games or platforms can just stay with you. No need to announce or discuss them in here. Thanks.

[deft fractal]

Hey Everyone!

[crimson garden]

Penguin welcomes Ganslinger back to chat by the way, like everyone! 😃

[crimson garden]

Hello friend! Penguin hope everything is alright over there, wanna remind that there's a BF6 skin available to redeem at the NVIDIA app 😃 To not miss out

[stuck sorrel]

I'm done with this game

I wouldn't count on it

They failed to deliver

its best to keep expectations low

[olive moth]

Well, that sucks. RIP BF franchise. Wish I could go back in time and play BF2 MC in its prime.

[wheat wigeon]

"We're listening"

[spiral parrot]

It would be helpful if they communicated what they mean when they say “focusing on what we are hearing is important to the community”.

[tall walrus]

is turning off crossplay the only way to stop getting soo many bot lobbies

[rose nimbus]

Is there something new and bad?

[fiery oxide]

Why would making the player pool smaller get you less bot lobbies

[tall walrus]

idk, that's what i saw on reddit as the solution

[fiery oxide]

You can't even turn it off on pc

[vivid frigate]

We just need all the Official Server on Portal ASAP. this Matchmaking sucks imo.

[wise talon]

interesting

[vivid frigate]

Either entering an empty match or full of bots and only 10 real players.

[tall walrus]

modifying a property in the PROFSAVE_profile file

[fiery oxide]

Doesn't work anymore

[tall walrus]

welp so i am stuck playing with bots

nice

[vivid frigate]

iirc they fixed the crossplay bypass on the profile. and PC crossplay are now disabled by default.

[tall walrus]

unless i play portal i guess

[fiery oxide]

I mean if you're actually playing from africa

[velvet kayak]

Dumped most of the dev team? At what point has this been reported? There are layoffs which affect all of the teams but stop making stuff up to support your negativity propaganda.

[fiery oxide]

that's the reason for not finding anything

literally the most dead region

[tall walrus]

Don't they place Africa on EU servers or??

[hallow geode]

I hate that the devs idea of letting all regions play even when population is low is just to add bots and not a region selector

[vivid frigate]

Asia is suffered with literally 90% bots matchmaking.

[quick helm]

Where are we getting the info they dumped most the dev team

[fiery oxide]

Nowhere

[charred rose]

Source: a discord user made it up

[tall walrus]

Literally

So basically I have to play portal if I want to play with actual people

[fiery oxide]

or vpn

[vivid frigate]

basically. but Portal are infested with AFK Farm on top the list.

[tall walrus]

And portal doesn't add to stats

[tall walrus]

Hmmm

[tall walrus]

Yeah that sucks

[vivid frigate]

That's why we need the Official Server on the Portal.

idk why they didn't bring that up. like in BF5 atleast you can see Official Server on the Community List.

[candid edge]

🫡

[radiant wadi]

We need operation locker asap

[cursive temple]

Why?

[velvet kayak]

That would be great

[regal field]

Good idea

[fiery oxide]

People complain about map size and then ask for small maps

make it make sense

[slender epoch]

every map feels the same

locker was in rotation with bigger maps so it balanced

bring wake and locker/metro back as rush maps

rejuvenate that abandoned mode

[fiery oxide]

Rush kinda booty though

[slender epoch]

really? i thought it was fine

even the karkand maps played decently well

[fiery oxide]

I just don't like rush as a concept

[crimson garden]

🫡

[crimson garden]

Penguin says welcome back to chat friend! Penguin didn't notice until now somehow

[livid raptor]

So, found out the new jammer equipment apparently also targets grenades too. Got a kill that way.

[slender epoch]

i don’t think it should be ignored tho it’s content in the game

[livid raptor]

Rush as a game mode was made almost obsolete once they debuted Operations/Breakthrough in BF1.

They’re functionally the same game mode design wise but Breakthrough wound up better implemented.

[slender epoch]

the whole front page thing is a mess i hope who ever came up with that concept.. is having a nice day…

i would just like a simple server browser 😭

where more than 3 friends can play like why is it so difficult to do this

no platoons no servers like.. someone at ea really just wants to see the ship sink

[livid raptor]

Eh, I do think Operations as a concept was a bit too constraining as it meant that maps now had to be designed in linked pairs.

[candid edge]

Good afternoon Sargent 🫡

[livid raptor]

That said, I absolutely miss the cinematic flyovers and voiceovers, as well as actually having 64 players and aerial vehicles in breakthrough.