battlefield-6

[jaunty estuary]

that's fair man

[hearty kelp]

Can't blame them considering how well the formula worked

[maiden isle]

Bf4 will die someday (pretty soon) and I still haven't touched it

[smoky tulip]

No, just bring in BF6 naval warfare. Naval warfare was fun in BF4 and in BF1. I would love to see it come back.

[light edge]

Nah. BF4 is fun but the bloom and suppression mechanics are annoying

[misty plinth]

I feel like Battlefield 6 movement speed is a hell of a lot better than BF4

[short peak]

You mean suppression that actually suppresses you ? 😭

[hallow geode]

You're gonna regret it. Get a discounted copy and enjoy peak

[hearty kelp]

Really? I love 4s handling of recoil and I much prefer it to 6

[maiden isle]

Maybe when it's on sale

[hearty kelp]

In bf6 the m417 could barely burst fire but in BF4 the scar did it far better

[short peak]

I had no issue with m417, perchance a skill issue?

[light edge]

I dislike being inaccurate 100m away with ARs. In BF6 you can spray down people up to 150-200m while in BF4 its impossible since if 1 bullet flies close to you you miss everything

[hearty kelp]

And suppression is hotly contentious, but honestly I like it. Gives lmg's more of a purpose

[jaunty estuary]

imagine

[hearty kelp]

That felt the exact opposite for me honestly.

[hallow geode]

Game still looks amazing to this day graphically. Especially the water

[jaunty estuary]

Game still holds up considering it's been 13 years graphically for sure, from mechanical point of view, it's outdated as hell

[light edge]

What gun did you use? I usualy went with the G36 since it was a nice allround gun that had a suppressor. The AK also had really low recoild i just prefer suppressors on my guns

[hallow geode]

Yeah every time I go back to BF4. Not being able to vault over stuff is annoying as hell

[smoky tulip]

Me too

[jaunty estuary]

Tell me about it, bunch of little things here and there add up and it's just a jank to play these days, but each to their own I guess

[hearty kelp]

Very outdated. There's a reason there is a gorillion farmers, cuz the vehicles were left in such an overpowered state where going 106 - 3 is very common in a vehicle

[hallow geode]

They said they're making adjustments to recoil and by the sounds of it they're going in the BF4 direction

[hearty kelp]

I'm hoping bf6 lazing is buffed to a point where two people alone can become deadly anti-armor

[short peak]

If they keep vehicles as they are on launch I'm going to have a very enjoyable experience

[summer gyro]

hi

[hearty kelp]

Honestly as long as they don't readd active protection then vehicles are honestly great

[jaunty estuary]

Vehicles were fine in 6 tbh, pretty much a non issue

[maiden isle]

Damn

[idle kelp]

Hey DICE i got this letter from my doctor, says i need bf6 in my veins to live

[light edge]

Or the launch of 2042 where you couldn't hit a thing at medium range so you were hiding from DMR and snipers for 1/2 of the game untill you got to close quarters

[hearty kelp]

APS is just so meta that it has no place

[short peak]

I said it before I said it again I absolute hate 2042s vehicle customization

[maiden isle]

Real

[hearty kelp]

Honestly not even just 2042, BF4 active protection was still cancer to fight

[jaunty estuary]

week 2 missions are up btw

[short peak]

I like it for being customizable and fun, I dislike it for the insane meta balance it brings

[smoky tulip]

I've read that. I hope recoil feedback replaces bloom. Bloom only made since with LMGs because most of them like the SAW fire cyclically.

[light edge]

For me its the autorepair. Helis were really strong in BF4 but atleast they had to land to repair where in 2042 you just hovered in a safe place

[hearty kelp]

Oh man, that reminds me. If ECM is added for aircraft, it should never stop an incoming missile that should only last 4 to 5 seconds tops

[short peak]

Any bangers

[jaunty estuary]

most of them are chill, done em in like an hour, just host your own portal with bots and rush through them in like 20 minutes or so lol

[short peak]

Also helis should not be 1 shot that's bs af (I am not a heli pilot)

[hearty kelp]

The fabled Siege of Shanghai out of bounds buildings:

[short peak]

Actually little birds should be 1 shot

[hearty kelp]

That map was fun to anyone who didn't have to go against a farmer

Oh wrong reply whoops

[smoky tulip]

I didn't mind it. I felt the armor in BF2042 had less protection, especially against infantry.

[short peak]

Same dot rewards? No increase?

[hearty kelp]

I can't remember if I had any complaints about the armor in 2042 apart from back then when the tor tank was just horrid to fight

[light edge]

I think the maps were the issue for 2042. No idea how its now but the first year after launch you just had tanks on hills that autorepaired themselves

[jaunty estuary]

yeah same afaik

[hearty kelp]

But I know for a fact that APS shouldn't block a top down attack

Wonder if they'll make JDAMS respond to lasers

[smoky tulip]

I can agree with this.

[light edge]

I think APS is a bad idea to add

[hearty kelp]

Completely agree.

[smoky tulip]

We need cope cages. Lol

[analog badger]

APS ?

[jaunty estuary]

When you design maps with 128 players in mind, and battle royale in mind, and then expect people to play 64 conq's on them, that's what happens. They're just big open fields for absolutely no reason and no benefit, the idea behind those maps was good, the execution was just poor

[hearty kelp]

Green light, hit X to block any rockets/shells for 3 seconds in 4

[light edge]

Armour protection system. Basically a turret that stops incoming rockets

[analog badger]

Ahhh, thanks

[hearty kelp]

Highly meta for a good reason, it beats everything else

[analog badger]

Dont even remember that

[hearty kelp]

I wonder if the tracer dart will be made a secondary again

[short peak]

Tbh I run the repair on ebaa but active protection on everything else

[light edge]

I think even if it would block 1 rocket every 10-15s it would be overpowered. Would make it impossible to solo flank and kill a tank

[hearty kelp]

Yeah, pretty sure it blocks in all directions iirc

[acoustic plume]

smh

[short peak]

You can still c4 and hit them up close btw so you can still die

[hearty kelp]

"oh you flanked? too bad I hit X and I'll just undo your work"

i liked every armor countermeasure in 4 except for APS

[light edge]

But every tank player plays in 3rd person. If you play as a team just call out "C4 behind" and before he can activate it the turret should kill him

[hearty kelp]

it honestly feels like the devs did indeed take vehicle balance notes from BF4 given how they didn't introduce APS and they felt properly killable

[short peak]

You can't assume perfect conditions all the time tho I die to c4 all the time

[light edge]

I played quite a bit of tank in the 2nd beta and i maybe died 2-3 times to C4. Most of the time i died to a h
guy shooting me into the back with a launcher

[hearty kelp]

C4 felt a bit weak in the beta but I figure they prefer under to overpowered

[short peak]

Idk how many I died to tbh but probably 5 or more

[light edge]

I think it was strong. The throw range is really big just the issue is that you need to get close enough and not get spotted

[hearty kelp]

the increase from 3 to 4 charges required makes quite the difference imo, especially the damage

[fossil anvil]

Ya the thing flew a long range

[hearty kelp]

c4 did 40 per in 4 while iirc beta deals 25

[short peak]

I like 40

[idle kelp]

Doesn't c4 also just recharge on its own without any ammo box now

[short peak]

Having to land all 4 is insane but tbh if you can hit 3 ur probably getting 4 off

[hearty kelp]

yes

i was playing 4 just yesterday vs an armor stack and the whole fight really just accentuated how important vehicle balance is

[urban bear]

I hope they add the ability to change magazines while the scope is open in this game.

[hearty kelp]

i had 2 friends, one in a tank with a javelin, one PLD + SUAV and myself using the tow and my own javelin, pulled it back from a loss just by focusing their armor hard on firestorm

[short peak]

I think balance will be fine nobody is healing tanks on release there won't be a heal challenge this time lol

[hearty kelp]

if they nail lasing in 6 i'm going back in time to pre-order

i can't post a picture here, but think of this: one lock completes, and then suddenly 3 more appear at the exact same time followed by a fire sound

THAT is the opposing pov

[short peak]

Praying for regular vehicle customization

Secondary weapons changes, turret changes, leave the main thing alone

[forest jewel]

I think the burn scars of the characters in the first BF6 trailer could maybe be because of the Sulis weather machine.

what do you think?

[kind spear]

Praying so that vehicles repair on their own

[pseudo radish]

https://youtube.com/shorts/1ELFW6O55bA?si=yyuu9iSvZeeIg8lE

[hearty kelp]

ragebait

[kind spear]

DICE PLEASE make it so we can revive on our own bc medics dont do shit

[white moss]

If you play medic it's a rule to always run smoke grenades

[modest moat]

Anyone know how many Gb BF6 gunna be

[civic herald]

What if I steal kits off of medics to revive them

[short peak]

Beta was an impressively low 35 ? I think

[lost valley]

60-80Gb I'm betting

[short peak]

You could only assume most of the games core is on that, so who knows. Idk anything about game development I'd guess about 80 though

[kind spear]

Ye

[hearty kelp]

pleeeease no

squad only revives for non-support is an amazing thing but it should be kept at just that

lest defibs become totally worthless

[noble locust]

Absoloutley not they dont in real war to

Allso repair veichle shouldnt even be an option

[analog badger]

I played some BF1 and BFV earlier. Dont think I ever got revived ONCE. In BF6 I did a lot

[noble locust]

Like imagine go in war and repair veichle that fast makes 0 sense

[short peak]

Lots of things in battlefield don't make sense I wouldn't start at vehicle repair

[hearty kelp]

it's funny because in games like HLL people will wait a full MINUTE for a medic to dash across to them but in bf6 people give up when there are 3 medics 5m away from them

then again, 5m becomes 3, 1... 3... 8... 12.. 25...

[noble locust]

If a medic is slow and takes to lpng i do that on purpose 🤣

[analog badger]

It was also the beta, tons of ppl playing BF for the first time. I saw CoD players streaming it for 1-2 hrs, not even knowing there are squads, or you could revive 😄

[hearty kelp]

very true, that being said I saw pretty good amounts of defibs

[short peak]

Literally lmao

[hearty kelp]

i'm relatively satisfied with the teamwork

[vast mason]

It funny seeing cods players dying easy in battlefield

[quiet flame]

Ngl I did rush point because no one wanted too so I did 1v12 to get gunned down asap

[vast mason]

I did same thing and killed like 4 people

[quiet flame]

I been on BF2042 farming the free BP for skins in BF6

I want too get the $100 bundle but I think I will skip that stuff and go lower price

[vast mason]

I'm back on bf4 cause it better then 2042

[quiet flame]

BF4 is still active?

[short peak]

Barely

It's on life support

[vast mason]

Yea mostly weekends

[kind spear]

Bf4 needs to be revived

[quiet flame]

Ngl I been doing me vs AI on breakthrough to max weapons

[quiet flame]

I really loved it tbh

[kind spear]

Same. Fastest way to get xp

[vast mason]

Let hope battlefield have good anti cheat on launch and balanced game

[quiet flame]

Quicker to finish bp as well but its sad to see me solo against bots... I wouldn't mind rabdoms joining

[quiet flame]

Tbh I loved the style in BF6

[vast mason]

Just remember it was old build i bet current build be 10x better

[short peak]

That bf6 grounded military appearance is ending on release with phantom edition skins sadly

[vast mason]

And let hope they won't add any goofy skins like cod did

[short peak]

They're already adding 2042 looking skins so I'd say it's doomed

[analog badger]

Why not? Getting sniped by spongebob

[vast mason]

It a military game not cartoon like cod

[analog badger]

I was kidding

[vast mason]

[short peak]

Bf6 will play great just gotta watch the vehicle customization and the futuristic skins

[cold panther]

your ass

[short peak]

No u

[vast mason]

Old battlefield better execpt 5 cause got bit goofy paints and few skin

[short peak]

2042 pretty decent

[flat blaze]

So... ig we are getting SBMM when it launches?

https://youtube.com/shorts/r9Mh-gj-ZQQ?si=v-98Wwu2MmUW3YcK

[short peak]

What's wrong with sbmm

[vast mason]

Sbmm good

Pov sbmm: oh you too good let put in server where you get destroyed

[flat blaze]

It genuinely never works as intended

[short peak]

Yeah you play good you play against other people who are good

[flat blaze]

Not in cod, not in apex, nor in marvel rivals.

[vast mason]

Pro cod players get killed by level 100 colonel

[short peak]

I wasn't aware this was cod apex or marvel rivals, interesting

Swear the discord says battlefield

[flat blaze]

Me when reading comprehension is set to zero

[tropic spoke]

you thought wrong, its actually the Battlefront discord

[short peak]

Ohh damn it my bad

[tropic spoke]

yeah are you excited for Battlefront 6 ?

I heard if you get Battlefront 6: Phantom Menace Edition, you get a lot of cosmetics

[flat blaze]

Id be fine if I had ever played a game where "SBMM" isn't actually EOMM.

[short peak]

Holy frick literally ? That's epic

[vast mason]

No one cares for skins

[short peak]

It was a joke brother

[tropic spoke]

bro missed the joke

[vast mason]

I really don't like jokes

[short peak]

I can tell, that's twice you missed it

[compact musk]

I’m sure someone’s said it but battlefield has always had sbmm. Part of the “matchmaking” process involves balancing the teams, for which skill measurements have been used for as long as they’ve existed

[river anchor]

That being said, that is why nobody used the "quick match" feature

It also didn't work on my region, 5 minutes waiting while there are almost full servers on server brower

[compact musk]

From my experience persistent servers still did team rebalancing every few rounds

Sbmm to balance teams is a very neutral if not good feature imo

[short peak]

If I see people complain about sbmm I'm assuming you suck or you're a good player who just wants to pubstomp

[kind spear]

Im just here to spread misinformation

And start riots

[past jasper]

Ffs auto team balancing is not sbmm

[river anchor]

this

[past jasper]

Why do people think anything that balances the lobby in any shape or form is sbmm

Battlefield probably will never get sbmm because getting 64 people of a similar elo range is just not gonna happen

[short peak]

You're saying it balances them randomly

[past jasper]

Destiny 2 had sbmm, people hates it because youtubers said its bad because youtubers are good players

Bungie made the pvp cbmm and most shitters were getting destroyed

Like imo sbmm isn't a bad thing, it protects shitters from getting destroyed

Strict sbmm is the thing that's stupid

[flat blaze]

Yk Ima still play bf. Im just really hoping sbmm is like the old games and not the newer games.

[river anchor]

bf2 used the player level, BC2, 3, 4 and V uses the "points-per-minute" as far as i know, but it ignores pre-made squads and favors an equal number of players

[past jasper]

It's literally auto team balancing and not sbmm

Elo based balancing has been around since forever and it's gonna stay since bf doesn't have that large of a playerbase

I'm pretty sure even cod has long ish queue times at higher elos

[river anchor]

meanwhile modern combat on ps2: "first come, first served" LOL

[worthy pilot]

well for bf ye, if i wanted to tryhard 24/7 i play csgo or cod

[short peak]

People not allowed to try hard bf ?

[worthy pilot]

they are, but what i mean is i dont wanna be forced by some balancer

[hazy valley]

who here talking about skill-based matchmaking actually know what it means? 🖐️

[worthy pilot]

it means pain to me on a personal base

[hazy valley]

none of you

[worthy pilot]

ok

[short peak]

I don't talk to anyone below a 4 kd

How's that for sbmm

[worthy pilot]

this is the way

[lucid mist]

get put into lobby with noobs

demolish them

get put into lobby with sweats

get demolished

rinse and repeat

[worthy pilot]

cod was more like playing good but enemies began to be more and more cheese. like ppl started to corner camp more and used stuff like shotguns. i guess these are the ppl who basically cheese themselves into higher elo. super annoying

[lucid mist]

cod is what happens when the same game is released with a new setting for 20 years

people break and twist the games mechanics so hard and the devs would get insane backlash if they changed anything so the game is stuck being continuously optimized by sweats to the point where the gameplay is unrecognizable to how it was designed to be played by casuals

[river anchor]

agreed, they really needed to take a break

[worthy pilot]

i just dont get why have elo in unranked modes. thats damn nonsense

[short peak]

Wait till you find out what battlefield is

[worthy pilot]

sweat balance > casual balance
in meaning of who to listen to

[lucid mist]

you're not actually wrong, but at least battlefield offers different types of playstyles outside of max FOV adderal induced movement with laser accurate assualt rifles

the whole point of battlefield is to ptfo your way, the only objective in cod is k/d go up

[short peak]

I don't know why battlefield players are so obsessed with making fun of cod players when half the time it's the same player in your games

[worthy pilot]

literally. im so tired of all these npcs now blaming and crying over cod players as if things changed

[lucid mist]

honestly I'm really happy cod players are coming to bf6. Everyone deserves to enjoy a fun game.

the stupid thing is if EA decides to copy the same design choices that made COD players so annoyed with the series to begin with

[long bolt]

the immature cod players like to harass the bf players, same the other way arround as well

[short peak]

Also cod didn't make movement players so we move on from that too

[jaunty estuary]

I just hope 6 will push cod back in the right direction, so I can go back to it. That's usually what happens when cod does things right, ironically, one of the reason that cod went to shit, is because 2042 happened lol

[short peak]

In here ?

[long bolt]

but to come into a bf channle and say some obnoxus stuff about bf and that cod is better, well its expected you will upset someone

[worthy pilot]

i came from cod to bf3 back then and since the be a bf main. i hope everyone can be freed from cod🙏

[jaunty estuary]

Both obnoxious behaviours tbh

[lucid mist]

cod and bf are inherintly different games. Yes they are both fps competitors but they play inherently differently

the idea of medics in COD is completely abusrd because the game isn't designed for teamplay

the lone wolf cod playstyle is completely fine in cod because that's what the damn game is designed for

[short peak]

Who did this

[worthy pilot]

eh ? the last days, it happend daily

[jaunty estuary]

What I meant by cod going in the right direction. I pretty much meant 2019 MW. I doubt it would ever go back to what it was during 4 or MW2, or even 2, but honestly MW from 2019 was one of the best arcade fps I ever played

[chilly sand]

86 people on my friends list pre ordered bo7 and 16 for bf6, the outrage for cod is a minority when their player base still eats it up

[short peak]

This is what I'm talking about like "lone wolf cod players" brother there is not 1 battlefield game you van tell me where your squad works as a perfect unit every single game or even half your games

[jaunty estuary]

I mean, naturally yeah, they have their target audience, but also, there's nothing else really quite like call of duty, so there's not much of an alternative

[short peak]

Every 2042 game I camp vehicles I sit somewhere on top 10 while my other 3 squad mates are literally always separated and doing nothing

This idea that battlefield players always work perfectly together is so tired

[long bolt]

most of the time people dont even think that its not a good idea to talk about other games in a dedicated discord, yes it makes for some good discussion but this is the internet, its like going into someone alse's home and saying "my house is better than yours", its just rude

[jaunty estuary]

It doesn't even work half of the time. More often than not my squad does some random shit and they hardly ever follow "orders" and by orders i mean selecting an objective to push in conq lol

[short peak]

Guess why they do that, because 80% of players don't care they put it on the point that they are either taking or will take for the 50 points

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah pretty much. I mean, when I get a based squad, it's cool as fuck right? But it's not like the game doesn't work outside of those moments

[short peak]

Exactly

[kind spear]

cap or fart

[short peak]

"Solo cod players" brother I am a solo battlefield player talk about that

[worthy pilot]

thats why playing with mates is 100x more fun. u got the options but ppl dont use them (randoms)

[short peak]

Tell me I'm useless when I deny the enemy air vehicles for 15 consecutive minutes

[worthy pilot]

u are useless

[kind spear]

im a solo cod player. i can get 40 kills and still lose bc my team sucks

[jaunty estuary]

Sounds like something a useless no aim 0 kd player would say

[short peak]

[kind spear]

im a team battlefield player. i get 10 kills and 500 deaths bc im reviving dumbasses

[jaunty estuary]

or, a cab driver

[short peak]

It's ok I'm about to unlock the actual 2042 cab (explosive cab) just need 10 more hovercraft kills

[worthy pilot]

i rev everyone knowing they can take some bullets or bait ppl shooting them

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah, no word of a lie I've managed to pick up a bunch of dudes that I added on ea after both weeks of beta finished. People just interact more than they did in 2042 for some reason, they appreciate the good shit that you do, as well as the bad I guess.

[short peak]

@worthy pilot what's human kda mean on the 2042 stats

[worthy pilot]

kd without bot kills

[short peak]

Ahhh makes sense

[kind spear]

can we get rid of KD in battlefield and keep the assists lol

[short peak]

I was thinking non vehicle kills

[worthy pilot]

[worthy pilot]

ye 42 playerbase is really lacking intelligent plays, and i like playing that game

[jaunty estuary]

Outside of a few banter moments, why the fuck would anyone ever care about KD in a battlefield game tbh. I don't care at all about my stats, and only ever discuss them when I get confronted about it tbh, outside of that, who cares really, be a negative KD for all I care, here to have fun, this ain't counter strike lol

[short peak]

4.14 kd, 55% wr, 373 kills with eeba

223 vehicle kills

[worthy pilot]

i care about kd as personal grind. its like setting urself a challenge, good motivation

[short peak]

1/4 of my kille are vehicles

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah that's a good, and probably the only good way of realistically looking at it

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah man

[short peak]

https://tracker.gg/bf2042/profile/origin/GharokkLUL/overview rate my stats

[worthy pilot]

i mean for clan stuff, its used to get a look on what a player can do. stats generally need to be meadured with each other but kd is one of them

[short peak]

[long bolt]

kdr helps, but means nothing if you cant work as a team player

[worthy pilot]

boggers

[jaunty estuary]

In any kind of competitive scenario, at least semi competitive, your stats matter sure, jumping in random battlefield games? not at all lol

[short peak]

Air hates to see me

[worthy pilot]

as inf player i have to hate on vic mains. but besides that, i can only make a half good judgement ofc @short peak

[short peak]

Any map but kaleidoscope I have every air vehicle dead on cooldown

[worthy pilot]

tbh matters to me cuz i dont play with everyone. if i play with someone else i expect a certain lvl of skill, otherwise i could just play solo with randoms

[jaunty estuary]

Fuck is wrong with tracker, it's missing like over 200 hours of 2042 on my profile

[short peak]

Kd isn't as important but people that deny score stats are super coping

[worthy pilot]

tracker showing actual play time, so minus menu

[short peak]

Menu gamer

[worthy pilot]

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah nah that's not possible at all lol.

[short peak]

Nvm what's the map with all the skyscrapers

[kind spear]

no fucking way Gorillaz is in fortnite now

[jaunty estuary]

Kaleidoscope?

[short peak]

Oh I was right, nvm

Impossible to kill air on that map

[jaunty estuary]

Map is just horrible in so many ways

[worthy pilot]

pondhawk engi duo is fun

[jaunty estuary]

In fact most of the maps in 2042 are just ass lol

[worthy pilot]

yea kinda

[viral ivy]

Yo guys is the Secure Boot gonna be on the BF6 full release ?

[short peak]

My best map is easily the snow one

[worthy pilot]

ye

[viral ivy]

alr ty

[worthy pilot]

no problem space cat

[jaunty estuary]

Breakaway?

[short peak]

Idk any names

[worthy pilot]

maybe he means the snow map thats open af, from the older bf game

[kind spear]

holy shit an AnthonyPit1 video

[jaunty estuary]

Oh yeah could be that one

[kind spear]

this day couldnt get any better 😲

[short peak]

It's got the mining dredge in the middle

[jaunty estuary]

Okay so breakaway

[worthy pilot]

ye

[short peak]

S tier eeba map

[worthy pilot]

100% reason to remember the name

[kind spear]

i know siege maps but i dont know ANY battlefield maps

[worthy pilot]

noob

[short peak]

I can't remember for some reason

Except stranded

[kind spear]

breakaway is the most open map in battlefield, but its literally one of the worst ones

[jaunty estuary]

oh that one with titanic in the middle

[willow lance]

Anyone knows if 2042 coins will carry over to BF6?

[worthy pilot]

why would they

[kind spear]

highly doubt it

[worthy pilot]

potential money loss

[jaunty estuary]

45 fucking days, jesus christ

what's worse, it's that it's pretty much 45 more days of 2042

Well, 41

[worthy pilot]

bf6 release is almost when my work contract runs out, i could go full nolife.

[jaunty estuary]

banger

just send it

[boreal monolith]

nah GoW Reloaded tomorrow plus carrying xbox friends through helldivers. Then silk song. 2042 just enough for the BP lol

[worthy pilot]

get the bucket ready

[short peak]

You ever run eeba, anti tank rockets repair and just zip around the map killing vehicles

[jaunty estuary]

Oh yeah, silk song, fucking hell, that actually exists

[worthy pilot]

nobody says eeba tho. say wildcat to please the masses

[willow lance]

Potential skin sales though

[jaunty estuary]

I walk man, i just like walking

[short peak]

[worthy pilot]

i love walking

[jaunty estuary]

I'll use the services of a cab driver every once in while, but other than that, it's me myself and my gun

[iron bridge]

Uncs can’t run no more

[jaunty estuary]

I walk faster than you run

[kind spear]

cap or clap but its farting

[worthy pilot]

[frigid crater]

ok ngl playing as support does help you get 2 or 3 points for the BP

[jaunty estuary]

Speaking of, I'll probably grind poe 2 for a while, maybe start another honor run on bg3 lol, that'll probably it

[deft zephyr]

Man, the M16A3 is hella underpowered in BF2042

[full wraith]

bnaldurs gate my beloved

[dull glen]

Guys; remember the AEK-971?

[worthy pilot]

support is usually up in the scoreboard but usually cant outperform recons

[dull glen]

Specifically from BF3/4

[worthy pilot]

one of the best guns

[jaunty estuary]

k30 all the way

[deft zephyr]

The accuracy is kinda off, idk. Might be lag though

[short peak]

Bro I can't run I got bad knees

[jaunty estuary]

coz of all the time you carry your team on your back?

[short peak]

Yes exactly

[iron bridge]

That is why I’m crouched up behind a rock

[short peak]

The way I sit in an ebaa for 20 minutes is so tuff

[worthy pilot]

the spread is bad, just burst in full auto

[sly heath]

Why can’t battlefield 6 be released now

[jaunty estuary]

[worthy pilot]

its my most used weapon, it does work

[long bolt]

so you can tell all your friends that you want to play it now, its free advertising X)

[worthy pilot]

eeba

[jaunty estuary]

Because this chat would be unreadable, now it's relatively fine

[short peak]

On the bright side the main gun sucks(for killing infantry) , it could be much worse

[wheat vapor]

They ban those two trolls from yesterday?

[worthy pilot]

isnt it worse in 6

[jaunty estuary]

pickle and jsmith? or there's others? lol

[worthy pilot]

who

[iron bridge]

Who was the troll yesterday?

[wheat vapor]

The adderall guy

[worthy pilot]

imagine rhey ban pickle that would be too funny

[short peak]

I mean it's a different vehicle but yes the Bradley is much better at killing infantry

[jaunty estuary]

oh, adderall is pretty chill tbh, wouldn't know

[worthy pilot]

as it should

[jaunty estuary]

I mean not literally adderall, but you know

[worthy pilot]

adderall doesnt rly troll

[wheat vapor]

He was hard spazzing yesterday

[normal echo]

Most modern gamers could kill a pantry without a vehicle

[iron bridge]

Adderall on vacation

[short peak]

I hope they put eeba in 6

[jaunty estuary]

I was about to say something, then remembered you're NA, so it doesn't matter

[worthy pilot]

these na ppl

[jaunty estuary]

yeah weird

[normal echo]

So what's the big argument of the day? We back to closed weapons being the one true path, is everyone still upset about graphic filters, or was there a new one?

[civic herald]

NA > EU

[worthy pilot]

we just have a chill talk actually

[worthy pilot]

no difference

[normal echo]

Blasphemy!

[civic herald]

Bc NA ppl are more funner

[jaunty estuary]

There's a new thing daily pretty much

[rustic merlin]

Open weapon supremacy 💪

[worthy pilot]

because they all speak the same language. makes things easier. but actually if eu ppl talk, it is more fun than na. csgo memes exist for a reason

[short peak]

Gimme eeba with anti infantry rounds and anti air missles

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah for real, I've recently started playing wow on NA, they're a bunch of funny laid back dudes

[civic herald]

In EU they are so mean mostly when I play with French and Russia

[jaunty estuary]

rush b cyka?

[worthy pilot]

u dont get the humor tho

[worn marten]

Now I will stir up a storm with this controversial take to shift the balance of this chat!

[jaunty estuary]

oh ffs

[worn marten]

Battlefield good

[worthy pilot]

the internal hate love relationships in eu is a hood classic

[normal echo]

Pure heresy and "wrong think", must be a witch, burn him!

(seriously though, closed weapons is the one true path)

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah, bring politics into an eu chat, shit's about to go down, NA has no clue

[worn marten]

In fact, if I’m feeling particularly devious I may even consider it pretty good

[short peak]

Open weapon system is good if you have to get to bingo for 2pm then dinner for 3pm

[rustic merlin]

Nuh uh

[jaunty estuary]

got baited ngl

[civic herald]

Idk they made me almost cry ebfore

Russian players

[normal echo]

Bf6 is.... 2042 makes me sad over the $3 I spent

[worthy pilot]

[iron bridge]

You shifting from one side of the bed to the other is what sent ripples through this whole chat

[jaunty estuary]

I have too much PTSD from russians in cs go

[worthy pilot]

darcy is not made for the internet wildlands

[worn marten]

I’m not one to stir up actual arguments in most cases, I prefer having actual discussions

[boreal monolith]

Damn i forgot poe2 has that big as update next friday. 30 new bosses is wild lmao

[jaunty estuary]

How exactly is "battlefield good" a conversation starter, in #battlefield-6 help me out here man

[civic herald]

But they dont make fun of u guys only us

[normal echo]

Has poe 2 added the rogue class yet? (or assassin, or w/e the dagger welding archetype is)

[jaunty estuary]

Right? Banger update

[worn marten]

Well you are conversing with me

Seems to have done its job 😎

[short peak]

Yeah you gotta say something like cod isn't as bad as people say it is it's just not for them

[jaunty estuary]

Oh for fuck sake

[worthy pilot]

ye cuz eu stronk together against outside, and inside we all love hate each other. its wonderful

[jaunty estuary]

You got me good

[iron bridge]

Bf2042 lowkey goated

[worn marten]

insert MGSV Kaz quote

[jaunty estuary]

Oh MGS quotes, now you've sparked my curiosity

[normal echo]

Legit making the Clint Eastwood disgusted face irl rn

[worn marten]

I’ve already snuck one in already

My banner is already The End

[rustic merlin]

Open weapons is the better system compared to BF4’s system.

[worthy pilot]

ig we go weapon topic again... sigh

[normal echo]

Closed leads to better class identity and game play variety

[short peak]

If you aren't having fun in 2042 might I suggest the humble, ebaa wildcat infantry hunter

[worthy pilot]

closed is for closed minded ppl

[jaunty estuary]

fucking based

[rustic merlin]

The gameplay variety of carbines and assault rifles. Indeed.

[short peak]

And uncs

[worn marten]

Both

Both is good

[short peak]

I loved closed weapons because instead of carbines and assault rifles I can play.. checks notes assault rifles and carbines

[boreal monolith]

Not really unfortunately unless you wanna tweak the ranger into one. Prob wont show up until its out of early access

[jaunty estuary]

gift of the silver tongue, they say it's the mark of a good officer, and of a liar, americans are too in love with the sound of their own voice, to speak the truth

[rustic merlin]

Closed weapon gamers when there’s inevitably an unbalanced AR and 60% of their team runs Assault. 🤯

[normal echo]

And sniper rifles.... Also ARs and Carbines ARE sufficiently different... ARs most effective range is roughly 10 yards further than Carbines, and they're much weaker cqb

[iron bridge]

WHY IS NOBODY HEALING?!

[short peak]

Blud if I play recon I am not playing a sniper I am going M4A1 CARBINE RAAAAH

[civic herald]

They should nerf vehicles a little

[worthy pilot]

closed weapon ppl gotta be old af cuz they forget that teamplay wasnt more common back then and meta picks were common af

[short peak]

No they shouldn't

[normal echo]

As opposed to that same imbalanced AR meaning literally every player in the entire game using the same gun?

[rustic merlin]

If you go open weapons you can even run an SMG. Oh the horror.

[civic herald]

If ppl is going like 100-1 in vehicle it kind of strong

[iron bridge]

Uncheimer is coming for us all

[jaunty estuary]

Closed weapon system was more often than not simply irrelevant, and majority ran the most fotm meta gun anyway

[worthy pilot]

vic is indeed easier than inf but its a vic, gotta be kinda strong

[short peak]

Who's gonna tell the closed weapon enjoyers that it's not gonna change the 30% of players picking assault and still playing assault rifles anyway

[flat blaze]

This is the weakest theyve been in a while ngl. Almost every class has antitank besides medic.

[rustic merlin]

Yea, but it’ll be across all classes instead of one class. So the teamwork can still exist despite inevitable metas that may develop.

[olive basalt]

I'm the same, no affect on me c:

Would prefer SMGs and LMGs to be swapped between Support and Engineer, but that's just my opinion ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[flat blaze]

If anything we should make it so tanks can fly and drive up buildings.

[worthy pilot]

im vibing engi lmg more too yea

[civic herald]

Theres like no way to kill them if they camp far on hill unless you have team of 5 engineers

[rustic merlin]

That’s why open is superior. Close combat medics can pick up their favorite smg while old school supports can lay down covering fire with their classic lmg 😎

[short peak]

Yeah idk how people expect closed weapons to help classes it's literally gonna take people off the already unplayed classes and funnel into more support / assault players lol

[jaunty estuary]

Literally, every single thing about open weapon system is a net positive, and people still try and argue the case that no, actually closed weapon system was peak

[worthy pilot]

where were all u guys when i got attacked by 5 ppl how closed is better

[lost violet]

MOVE FAST! MOVE DECISIVE! DAGGER ON MY SIX!

[flat blaze]

C4. Rocket launchers. If theres an engineer snipe them first then shoot the tank. People usually arent coordinated enough to have more then 1 maybe 2 engineers.

[civic herald]

And its not realistic to get a team to kill 1 enemy bc ppl do not work together in this game

[short peak]

I've literally always stood on business for open weapons

Ping me I will put these uncs in their place

[worthy pilot]

ye but ppl were not chatting this moment ig😂

[civic herald]

C4 ppl cant get close to it if its wide in open

[normal echo]

Homogenization in games is never good, it's boring.

[worthy pilot]

i was alone at the front fighting for open weapons

[flat blaze]

Also if a tank is sitting on a hill they arent pushing objective so just ignore them. Theyll farm a few kills and thatll be it

[civic scarab]

The only real upside to closed weapons is that it will somewhat force the fake medics to play assault because there's no way they'll want to play lmg, maybe an m4 but that's it

[short peak]

You know what will make people pick recon more CHECKS NOTES AGAIN ah yes limited weapon selection

[willow lance]

I like how Dagger 1-3 is a reference to Misfit 1-3 from BF3

[jaunty estuary]

Majority of bf4 servers now have open systems anyway, it's like, they're arguing something that even uncs playing bf4 don't favour anymore lol

[olive basalt]

As long as snipers suffer tremendously, idc if there are closed weapons or not

[civic herald]

In breakthrough on ridge 13 they can sit on hill above A and cover both objectives

[flat blaze]

I liked open weapons tbh. Sad to hear its gone.

[civic herald]

And cant be c4ed

[rustic merlin]

They also happen to forget about the AEK and ACE meta

[iron bridge]

There will always be at least 1 sniper in the lobby if Im in it

[short peak]

Class balance is terrible better limit weapons to the already 2 most pick classes that will fix it

[worthy pilot]

vics that farm kills usually aint helpful to the team in the front so it doesnt matter. u can just ignore them and be fine

[jaunty estuary]

Right? Litearlly to this fucking day, most of the kill feeds are AEK and ACE

[flat blaze]

In the big release recon will be getting drones. Throw some C4 on it and that tank cant do shit.

[normal echo]

Recon will still be the only one using sniper rifles tbh. Steadier aim and unrezzable headshot are too big to pass up for a sniper

[jaunty estuary]

Alright, if open weapon systems is boring, could you provide an argument on why closed weapon system is therefor, not boring?

[short peak]

It's so funny because the same people complaining about snipers sitting afk in back also want them to ONLY have snipers

[flat blaze]

Recon is losing spawn beacon. Seeing a recon in the big 2025 will be like seeing the Dodo bird.

[worthy pilot]

closed weapon boring af cuz i cant pick the weapon i find cool

[normal echo]

You'll actually encounter more than one weapon per game?

[short peak]

Recon is dead unless they get some insane gadget, already the least picked class now they lose a very strong portable spawn point

[jaunty estuary]

That's wishful thinking at beast, naive and just ignorance at worst

[normal echo]

As a carbine using recon on beta who was nearly exclusively front line, losing beacon REALLY hurts

[rustic merlin]

People really just underestimating recon being able to locate everyone within 60m on their minimap.

[jaunty estuary]

uav is king

[worthy pilot]

only of its open weapons. in every closed weapon game of bf, u see the same 1 2 weapons 24/7

[willow lance]

Closed weapons will just reduce variety

[worthy pilot]

closed weapon is for ppl who cant let go the past

[short peak]

At the cost of afking and roleplaying as a drone strike operator (without the strike)

[civic scarab]

casper moment, just sit somewhere, fly the drone high up and let the spot and spot assists roll in.

[jaunty estuary]

Literally.

I want to play M4

Checks which class I can play M4 with

Plays that class that's literally it

[flat blaze]

UAV is its only good feature. Tbf it paired really well with the open weapon system and allowed recon to get in there and give the team big radar advantage.

[rustic merlin]

UAV goes brrrrrt

[short peak]

My copium is that they're cooking up an insanely dubious gadget for recon

[civic herald]

I think they need to stop nerf recon

Even tho I dont play it

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah, a spawn beacon for the whole server

[rustic merlin]

TUGs are always a solid gadget, they’re also allegedly getting motion sensor nades back. Plus the pathfinder tree means that they can be cqc monsters

[flat blaze]

Theyre bringing back the robo dog from 2042 as a Recon gadget?

[worthy pilot]

seen the leaks and the only crazy thing is slams. not cuz its powerful but why tf is recon hslf engi now😄

[willow lance]

People will priorotize their own fun rather than the needs of their team. I wouldn't play as an engineer if I was forced to play with an SMG. SMGs aren't good for the maps engineers are good at. Likewise I couldn't use an SMG in maps that suits for it because it would be locked to the worst class to use for infantry only close quarters maps.

[short peak]

This would actually probably do it lmao funny enough

[normal echo]

Open weapons is exactly the opposite of weapon diversity... Everyone just picks the most fotm gun on every class. If the average combat range favors ARs on the map, everyone will be using an AR.... Hell if anything I think closed weapons are too open

[flat blaze]

Are TUGs being added? I didnt see them in the beta.

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah pretty much. I couldn't care less about anyone needing me to play medic if I can't play the gun I want

[short peak]

Wtf is slams I forgor my old unc brain can't keep up

[willow lance]

Open weapons allows people to choose the needs of their own fun and the needs of their team at the same time.

[worthy pilot]

tugs were in the beta

[rustic merlin]

2042 has that for squad leaders I think or something. I’m not actually sure how people spawn that. 😂

[worthy pilot]

like small anti vic mines

[short peak]

Ah so recon is dead on release nice

[civic herald]

Why call vehicles vics

[rustic merlin]

It’s the core gadget for Recon, you’ll always have it and it recharges

[flat blaze]

Medic feels bad. Id rather play with BF1s bolt actions rather then the BF6 Lmgs.

[frigid crater]

its a vehicle thing

[worthy pilot]

diabolic

[short peak]

Did someone say vehicle

[civic herald]

Press B

[rustic merlin]

The big funny radar dish you can spawn on? Neat

[frigid crater]

yeh

[flat blaze]

I think you forgot how good bolt actions were in that game brother ✋️😶🤚

[jaunty estuary]

Is it though? I usually played ptfo with recon anyway, so to me, them taking the spawn beacon from recon doesn't really change a bit

[worthy pilot]

i dont like bf1

i think every weapon was valid in its own usecase

[normal echo]

This is an underrated issue, tbh

[flat blaze]

Im glad someone else agrees with me. Theyre so ass.

[rustic merlin]

False, they’re both peak

[willow lance]

BF6 LMGs are good if you are defending

[short peak]

They're easily the worst weapon I used in the beta and it's not even close

[rustic merlin]

Green laser means funny 200 rounds of hipfire goes brrrrt

[willow lance]

DMRs are worse right now lmao

[jaunty estuary]

I mean. People just did that in bf3, in bf4, in every single bf title though, regardless if it was closed or open. That argument only works in a vacuum in a perfectly balancedw game where every gun is equal.

[worthy pilot]

the 2nd lmg is only usable at like dmr ranges, otherwise the first lmg is totaly fine

[short peak]

Bro dmr is 2 shot anywhere on the body wtf you mean bad 😭

[iron bridge]

If you like rocking skirts and cat ears, my boy @short peak, back-to-back award-winning cab (tank) driver — is officially recruiting a submissive engineer.

[craggy tapir]

They're a bit bad with body shots, but both LMGs + ACOG was crazy. Headshots were so easy when defending

[normal echo]

Id consider giving lmgs a suppression boost so they suppress better than current weapons

[jaunty estuary]

I'll be surprised if anyone disagrees with you, LMG's were ass

[tight prism]

yall think the medics will do their job on release? 😂

[flat blaze]

TY. DMRs are bad but LMGs somehow feel worse. Feels like Im spitballing the enemy even with headshots.

[willow lance]

Yeah, KTS with synthetic tip 💀

[jaunty estuary]

And the whole suppression mechanic along with them is just as bad

[rustic merlin]

I don’t think we were playing with the same LMG’s ngl

[willow lance]

Basically fastest TTK in the game

[iron bridge]

Nah that 0 recoil lmg was crazy good

[worthy pilot]

the cap

[normal echo]

I think until paddles are nerfed as an offensive melee weapon, a full 3rd of medics will just be running around like an Olympic sprinter on peds death touching everyone they come across

[jaunty estuary]

I picked up an LMG for a minute, felt ass, went back to M4A1, stayed with it throughout

[rustic merlin]

KTS was a 60 round DMR, the other one was really fun with a suppressor and a proper grip.

[short peak]

Imagine having an lmg with lower rpms than a pistol and it does 25 dmg a shot

[willow lance]

Fastest TTK besides for one shot weapons. You could 2 tap to the head in like 15 meters with KTS, synthetic tip combo

[ornate hornet]

To do list for today:

bite the hand that feeds me
Bark up the wrong tree
Judge a book by it’s cover
Beat a dead horse
Walk on thin ice
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes
Get kills instead of capturing the objective in BF6

[rustic merlin]

2.1x headshot multiplier goes brrrrt

[kind spear]

the only bad thing about renewal is your tank cant go to E1 and E2

[worthy pilot]

kts was the main lmg for console players cuz console lmg players are usually 100m away from the front layn down. thats why it worked for them. the first lmg is way better in closer and mid ranges

[jaunty estuary]

Spoken like a true negative kd unc

[short peak]

What about going in my glass house and throwing stones out of it

[iron bridge]

But you slap a 16x scope on it, post up in a cliff somewhere far far away, and you do some serious damage with that 0 recoil

[jaunty estuary]

16x on an lmg sounds like blast tbh lol

[worthy pilot]

in 67 hours beta playtime i didnt see one good kts player that did close range mid range fights

[flat blaze]

Instead of removing open weapons entirely, they should level lock the open weapon system. Make it a reward for devoting time to a class you play. At least recon mains wont be screwed permanently.

[short peak]

True it does have 0 recoil so when your shooting at people and they kill you with their 1500 rpm smg you can see them perfectly

[normal echo]

So, hot take, but the m4a1 needs a rate of fire nerf

[jaunty estuary]

I'm a recon main and I don't exactly feel screwed

[willow lance]

Because it's a skill cannon, not easy to 2 tap to the head even with no recoil

Since it also has slow RPM

[flat blaze]

Buff** 1500 RPM

[chilly sand]

shoot infantry with the AA

[short peak]

Anyway buff vehicles nerf rockets (remove them) and make me have priority vehicle spawning thanks EA

[jaunty estuary]

M4A1 will be the least playable gun on launch, they'll completely gut that gun to the ends lol

[worthy pilot]

ye, thats why kts is bad. good on paper bad on practice

[ornate hornet]

assault main life…

[willow lance]

M4A1 isn't OP tbh, it's just good

[short peak]

I started using m417 at the end of beta in preparation for the m4a1 nerf I'm comfortable with it now

[jaunty estuary]

Like hell it wasn't, I could kill people faster than they could think about shooting back

[willow lance]

Many weapons also has fast TTK, M433 had just as fast TTK, same with G36

[civic herald]

M4A1 isnt gud its just the best out of the guns

[willow lance]

Same with SGX

[jaunty estuary]

I mean yo, if dice thinks like you, I'll be happy

[civic scarab]

m417 with iron sight was great

[short peak]

M4a1 wasn't that good it just had 5 gorbillion rpm pinpoint accuracy and 25 dmg a shot for some god forsaken reason

[normal echo]

Not sure I'd agree there, felt like the hands down best weapon on beta by a mile.... Only weapon it lost to in cqb was the busted shotty, and the second the shotty doesn't 1 tap, the m4a1 is going to dunk on it there, too

[jaunty estuary]

To be fair they didn't really mention m4a1 in their post beta debrief

[willow lance]

M417 also had similar TTK to M4A1, you just couldn't spam it

[short peak]

M417 my beloved

[worthy pilot]

ttk is pretty overvalued in bf games since there is too many ranges and too situational situations

[willow lance]

That's why M4A1 is balanced, it's harder to control at mid long ranges

[jaunty estuary]

I mean yeah that's true

[short peak]

People be like erm shotgun has 0.1s ttk nerf it (invalidated at 15+ meters)

[normal echo]

Tbh if that gun had a 30+mag it'd be busted too

[worthy pilot]

hey im all for shotgun nerfs but i get the point

[willow lance]

I dunno man, NVO isn't busted which is pretty similar to M417 despite having 40 round mag option

[short peak]

Point is that when the game comes out and the 15 tdm players get their shotgun nerf while the other 1.4 million players are on conquest or breakthrough

[worthy pilot]

nvo was not busted at all. yt did hype it up

[jaunty estuary]

fuck shotguns tbh

[short peak]

[willow lance]

Shotguns were a problem in those modes too

[worthy pilot]

just delete shotguns

[willow lance]

^This tbh

[short peak]

Oh I didn't know you had access to the large conquest bf6 maps

[jaunty estuary]

map*

[normal echo]

Didn't really feel any of the ARs where that oppressive, tbh. But beta had smaller maps and more cqb than you'd want for an AR, and only assault had the backup shotty

[willow lance]

All the 4 maps I played, shotguns were a problem, Iberian especially, entire middle area of the map is shotgun zone

[short peak]

Shotgun is not a limited weapon type

[willow lance]

Empire State was the least problematic in terms of shotgun funnily because of verticality and longer engagement distances

[short peak]

I wouldn't know I was too busy sitting on points farming noobs with my apc

[willow lance]

Shotguns weren't that much prevalent in Empire

[jaunty estuary]

Nah they weren't, but I did feel broken and pretty dirty when using M4A1, could just be me though

[normal echo]

Same tbh

[civic scarab]

rush, king of the hill, and domination just being shotgun fests every match

[worthy pilot]

i think the problem is (as usually) that ppl are bad. i had fun with all weapons and they all did work fine. when u change ur playstyle about speed and ranges, u did perform good. ppl usually just cant change that stuff cuz they are limited in their skills, therefore ppl complain, say things are op, things are bad

[short peak]

Yep skill issue as usual

[civic herald]

In Empire State you can camp the stairs with shotgun and get like 20 killstreaks

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah that could be true

I wouldn't know. I'm not bad

[short peak]

I've kept track of the kd of the people in here and tbh those with a 3+ kd actually complain less no meme btw

[slender epoch]

Wait until the rest of the ARs come out

[jaunty estuary]

I'm 2.64, so apparently I'm a meme to you huh

[slender epoch]

yall will see they are v powerful

[civic herald]

Infantry kd or vehicle ks

[short peak]

You are the highest score tho

[jaunty estuary]

Oh you're actually keeping track of that shit?

[normal echo]

Really curious to see the army's new rifle the sig spear in game, curious as to whether it'll be an AR or carbine

[short peak]

Not every single individual that posts but I go in there regularly and check every 10 or so

[smoky ember]

meme

[jaunty estuary]

Fair enough

[worthy pilot]

every name in this disxord should have a link to the stats to see how valid someones opinion is😂

[short peak]

27k is the highest that I've seen personally it's very possible that someone's been higher

Average (anecdotally) is about 15k-20k

Anything lower below average anything higher above

[worthy pilot]

friend got 27k. hes 19 revs avg a game with 2.5kd

[jaunty estuary]

Real question is if you've seen anyone with a higher than 40 kills per game

[civic scarab]

Speaking about stats, the amount of players I've seen who have played support mostly have horribly low revive counts and the average per game is 2-3.
What do I have to do to get some electricity through my heart

[short peak]

Doesn't show kills per game not on the stats page anyway

[willow lance]

It's a carbine for some reason, not sure if it will be there during launch(saw it in labs leaks)

[slender epoch]

Ima say what I want dice it’s time to drop Floodzone in bf6 rotation

[willow lance]

It had no textures yet that's why I think it might not be a launch weapon

[jaunty estuary]

#stats message it does yeah

[short peak]

Oh nvm I see

[worthy pilot]

he took u to school

[jaunty estuary]

he's a cab driver, didn't get much school

[worthy pilot]

🔥

i like kpap, but hes a vic main, so the hate cant stop

[short peak]

Aw mines only 32

[jaunty estuary]

took you to school twice

damn

[short peak]

I still have my kd

[jaunty estuary]

yeah nah papa is based

[short peak]

Also how come my 200+ revives get made fun of Jackie out here with like 70

[jaunty estuary]

82 actually

[slender epoch]

we are actually flexing beta stats out here

[jaunty estuary]

People just don't die around me man, i revive them by not needing to revive them in the first place

[short peak]

Everyone hates me until I'm on your team in the tank popping helis out of the sky like a frickin iron dome

[jaunty estuary]

Nah I literally give 0 fucks about any of it, it's just memes

[worthy pilot]

• comment by someone that got nothing to show

[slender epoch]

Uhm

Ok buddy

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah well, but you'll never be on my team actually, or against me

[worthy pilot]

well yea. game needs good vic ppl in both teams

[short peak]

Prove him wrong

[slender epoch]

Slide on me see what’s up lol

[jaunty estuary]

So in fact, the only one flexing, ironically, is you?

[slender epoch]

Lobby’s are open

[worthy pilot]

kpap, analysis

[long bolt]

📏

[short peak]

Darcry on 4 kd and even tho he's a troll sometime he doesn't complain, my theory continues correct

[slender epoch]

Pipe down brotha no one cares about stats more than you

In a beta 💀

[short peak]

I do tbh

[worthy pilot]

u do since u mentioned it obv

[jaunty estuary]

yeah literally, he's getting involved by stirring shit, and the only pot he can stir is that of his own brain

[slender epoch]

Nah i really don’t I merely mentioned him posting beta stats in here 24/7

[short peak]

We got a 1.7 kd, 19k xp/game player here

[worthy pilot]

damn jesus fok

getn on the block list for this diabolical gameplay

[jaunty estuary]

Who, kayotic?

[short peak]

He's almost above average on score at least

[jaunty estuary]

Oh so he's a nobody, good to know

[slender epoch]

Slide

Lobby’s open

[worthy pilot]

what he sayn

[short peak]

He must not know who he's talking to

[worthy pilot]

slide lobby open. is that na slang

[civic scarab]

sacrificing KD for higher revives

[short peak]

Buddy this is the German prodigy

[worthy pilot]

nani

[jaunty estuary]

Sounds like some mentally intept way of asking to hit his dms

[worthy pilot]

he wanna pull up

[short peak]

This bad boy is sporting a 4.5 infantry kd sporting 2k hours

[jaunty estuary]

we about to pull him down where he belongs

[short peak]

He will humble you

[slender epoch]

Doors open stat bros lol

[worthy pilot]

i wanna set my goal 10kd for 10k kills

[short peak]

I'm at w*rk

[worthy pilot]

having a 500 euro bet inside the clan

[short peak]

And I play vehicles you wanna eeba 1v1

[worthy pilot]

i would lose

[worthy pilot]

im not into doods sry. pls close it

[slender epoch]

👋😂

[jaunty estuary]

are you on adderall or something?

[short peak]

We just playing kayotic, you an ok fella

[worthy pilot]

u ok

[short peak]

Nobody would actually use stats to insult people (unless you call someone bad)

[worthy pilot]

literally stat wise. ok dood. ok stats

[short peak]

Then it's free game

[slender epoch]

I’m fine it’s just everytime I join this chat it’s some bloke talmbout kd like chill fam

[jaunty estuary]

The fuck are you on a bout, we're having a chill talk and you're getting involved with 0 context and you're assuming things

[slender epoch]

Not that deep

[short peak]

Tbf I haven't mentioned stats in a while but yeah I was on a rampage for a while

[worthy pilot]

we all just wanna enjoy the game no reason to hate🔥

[short peak]

We good jack jack down boy down

[worthy pilot]

we just talk about stats. we aint shoving them into each other lol

[civic scarab]

Then theres players like elliot in stats who play support but average 3 revives a game with a high KD

[jaunty estuary]

15 revs per match, damn

[short peak]

I think mines lower, like 2.17

[jaunty estuary]

what was i on? like 1? 😂

[worthy pilot]

pretty low for a vic driver

[short peak]

Also aside from regular arguments about how the game should be it's one of the other things to talk about

[short peak]

Revives per game ? 😭

[worthy pilot]

ye its fun. i mean its fun to speak about it with ppl who got a clue lol

[jaunty estuary]

yeah

[short peak]

Buddy people die on top of my vehicle and I will not get out to revive you

[worthy pilot]

ye, u gotta pull up like a uber driver and rev ppl

[jaunty estuary]

new york cab driver, literally

[short peak]

I lost an eeba one time and the enemy kept it for an entire 20 minutes, they had 3 eebas I trolled my team

[worthy pilot]

u ruined the whole game then

[short peak]

I felt like such a disgrace

[jaunty estuary]

how have you lost it exactly?

[short peak]

I spent the entire game trying to blow him up he just sat in spanw I couldn't

[worthy pilot]

tbh, knowing that u can get a rev when dying in a vic is a nice change, basically prevents ppl from leaving

[short peak]

I got out trying to help someone and they stole it

[jaunty estuary]

that's a number one mistake anyone can do, help someone

[worthy pilot]

he played with u damn. u must have felt horrible the whole day

[short peak]

Bro seeing your vehicle on the enemy team is a pain I would not wish on anyone

[worthy pilot]

it did happen to me in the beta once. i had less depressions when my gf broke up ngl

[short peak]

If they're not stupid it's actually catastrophic, but I think we still won

Like if they push you with them, you're done

[worthy pilot]

non can break a mans will, but stealing his vic will

[jaunty estuary]

It would of been worse if she'd broke up with you because you lost a helo

[short peak]

Real shit man I was super sad about it

That was the first time i felt like I really let down my team

[worthy pilot]

i mean i would understand the reasoning, would be the first time she would have spoken logic

[jaunty estuary]

you a cab driver too? or just aspiring to be?

[worthy pilot]

na im inf only

[jaunty estuary]

Ah good, you're normal

[short peak]

[worthy pilot]

this feels like an insult

[jaunty estuary]

To who? You or papa?

[worthy pilot]

me

[jaunty estuary]

Fuck, so it's both

[worthy pilot]

imagine being normal💀

[short peak]

You guys haven't felt what it's like to have 4 engineers heal you in iberian middle area 3 full sight lines of enemies and they're scattering like ants

[slender epoch]

Is there a way to see bf4 stats?

[jaunty estuary]

Yeah nah, sorry dude, that would suck

[jaunty estuary]

II know what it's like to kill them though

[worthy pilot]

he tryna influence us into stat talk to then gaslight us. mastermind

[short peak]

What platform

[slender epoch]

Xbone

[short peak]

Username ?

[slender epoch]

same as this one

[worthy pilot]

is this a job interview ffs

[short peak]

360 or xbox1

[jaunty estuary]

I like how mysterious he is about it, like he's not going to share a secret of a web, right after he posts a link to it

[slender epoch]

Probably 1

[worthy pilot]

lmao

[slender epoch]

No I just don’t know where to find stats for this game since battle log shut down

[worthy pilot]

battlelog my beloved

[short peak]

#stats message

[jaunty estuary]

battlelog was so good

[short peak]

[slender epoch]

Ya lmao it’s all gone to the ages

[worthy pilot]

bro fucking 0% winrate. what are u doing

[slender epoch]

fail dice oh well feast upon 2042 stats if you must

[slender epoch]

Passivist strat I fear

[jaunty estuary]

https://gametools.network/stats/xboxone/name/Kayotic?game=bf4

all 0's here too, rip

[short peak]

It says the api is being poopy

[jaunty estuary]

Wait nah hol up

[worthy pilot]

this chat is way more fun at 2am ngl

[slender epoch]

I’m p sure it’s somewhere lol I missed BL man.. it was the goat

[jaunty estuary]

Scroll down https://gametools.network/stats/xboxone/name/Kayotic?game=bf4 there's something

[kind spear]

erm hello

[short peak]

#stats message here's my 2042 cabbie stats

[worthy pilot]

why 42 doesnt work

[short peak]

40 hovercraft kills what an absolute stud

[slender epoch]

I’ve been enjoying 2042 lately I can tell there’s some folks just like me who don’t know wtf is going on we just want the bf6 stuff

[worthy pilot]

atleast u enjoy it

[civic scarab]

why does an engineer player average 13 revives per game but almost no kills

[weak gale]

2042 is still trash. Almost unplayable

[bronze grail]

lol it assigned me an engineer while i was maining support

[worthy pilot]

jeep driver reving his gunner

[slender epoch]

it is but I’m getting laughs out of it kinda

[bronze grail]

[short peak]

https://tracker.gg/bf2042/profile/xbl/Kayotic/overview

[kind spear]

??? its more than playable

[civic scarab]

we need to assign you to support asap

[worthy pilot]

mad cuz bad

[short peak]

Your vehicle kills a little low buddy let's work on that

[bronze grail]

#stats message

• main support
• battlelog: oh look, engineer!

[short peak]

Might I suggest repair eeba, at missles and infrared smoke

Imagine I'm the gun selling guy in John wick

[weak gale]

🤦‍♂️

[worthy pilot]

me when bad ppl have an opinion

[bronze grail]

I guess all the repairs i did during one match made the system confused

[worthy pilot]

u broke the game

[bronze grail]

iirc i was a machinegunner for an ifv as an engineer

[short peak]

Those count

[slender epoch]

Yes I’ve been finding some good ahh spots for the spawn beacon lol and unlocking the rest of the guns v slowly

[bronze grail]

that explains it! I got like, 13 kills during that one match

[short peak]

13 kills, this guy's is the big leagues

[worthy pilot]

svk as most kills is diabolic

[bronze grail]

high dpi and grasshopper reflexes do the work

[worthy pilot]

what is high? i play 2400 and 20 ingame

[bronze grail]

maybe im not too old for this game after all

[short peak]

I play on the lowest dpi possible

[bronze grail]

1800 dpi and i think i had my sensitivity set to 40 in the bf6 beta

[short peak]

Better for tracking jets in eeba

[worthy pilot]

i felt like settings are different to 42 eventho they said its the same

maybe i did overlook something but i had to make different ingame settings

[bronze grail]

well the game engine was prolly tweaked

[maiden fog]

Will BF6 be on gamepass?

[short peak]

Definitely not

(Maybe) but probably not

[worthy pilot]

i usually go for 360 when moving only my hand from left to right without arm

[maiden fog]

whyyyy cod is on gamepass 😭

[worthy pilot]

ur in the wrong hood, partner 🚬 🔫

[short peak]

I unfortunately don't have ea access but it's not 0% that Microsoft wants to cash in on this cod vs battlefield and they might shell out real money to put it on gamepass. But that's very unlikely

[bronze grail]

I only move my hand, i only move my arm when the cable gets tangled lol

[short peak]

It's just my cope

[worthy pilot]

ye but i mean thats how i checked that the settings were different

[maiden fog]

lol 😂

[bronze grail]

there is no way EA will let the battlefield themed truck of money drive away from them

[worthy pilot]

love a good cope

[bronze grail]

you may get earlier access with EA access, like with bf1

[short peak]

I believe that entirely I just have a small glimmer of cope

[maiden fog]

COD might have more players due to gamepass but most COD Players will probably come over to BF6

[bronze grail]

that's one way to find out lol

[worthy pilot]

i think u play eeba cuz ur worried ur a failure as infantey. thats the real cope

[short peak]

I didn't think starfield or bo6 was gonna be on gamepass, so what do I know

[short peak]

No I found what I'm good at (making air units depressed)

[worthy pilot]

sending depression to other ppl is a skill i admire

[bronze grail]

#stats message medic mains unite

[short peak]

Btw when your holding open points on kaleidoscope and there isn't a little bird perma harassing you, think on this moment and thank your local eeba

[bronze grail]

i wonder if the bandage/ammo pouch makes a return from bf1

[worthy pilot]

shared my medic stuff

[snow spire]

it just could bc since they’re heading for a grounded direction I think there could be a lot more selective gadget options in every class respectively, hopefully just like the older games

[short peak]

I wouldn't expect it

[snow spire]

Same I’m not getting that vibe at least not yet

[short peak]

The grounded direction I mean

[snow spire]

Not until after launch right? Since the bigger ‘massive’ maps are gonna give the full scope of the game

[bronze grail]

i just like to quickly heal everyone around me. Med crate has its uses, but a bandage pouch is much better when you're advancing/rushing an objective. It could even follow the same principle as the crate that's in the game right now - call it "supply pouch", it heals more slowly than the crate and restores less ammo/grenades/gadgets

[worthy pilot]

❤️

pouches are fun and got drip

[snow spire]

Actually a smart basis for giving good incentives to add them, the bandage pouch and the ammunition pouch since they were so effective in the WW games

They were very useful

[bronze grail]

yeah, they allowed for a much more dynamic, aggresive playstyle as medic/support

[snow spire]

Heck I’d swap to them 100% if I could

[short peak]

Nah I just mean the phantom edition skins it's the first major complaint I have so far I think it's gonna lead into a weird skin direction again

[bronze grail]

Nicki Minaj in combat fatigues - "Let's keep it real and grounded"

[worthy pilot]

cant wait to use the trophys to stop the fire tube spam

[short peak]

No it won't be like that but im not big on futuristic either

[bronze grail]

is the deluxe edition worth it?

[errant jetty]

I wasn't able to get my hands on BF6 beta. I saw people complaining about how bad helicopter control is.
Can someone please tell me how it compares to BF2042's choppers? I found BF2042 choper flight model to be horrible.

[bronze grail]

what are "weapon packs"? just skin packs and stuff?

[worthy pilot]

bf42 vics are very agile strong and easy to use. so far it looks like u need more skill to do good in 6

[snow spire]

Ahhh okay yeah I get whatchu mean I guess apparently because there were some faucets talking bout skins consisting of special forces level of diversity and skull masks / painted on gear specifically in the custom helmets but there are real world applications for gear like that - not too unpragmatic or shiny but just enough colour and customisation to distinguish each solder’s personality in a sense but trust me I got no vibes telling me that it wasn’t gonna remain grounded in its direction from what I saw

[errant jetty]

I have been pretty decent with choppers for multiple BFs, but BF2024 chopper just doesn't feel right. It's like a toy

[bronze grail]

it's hard to fly a heli when ten engineers point their stinger (one out of five) at you every three seconds

i spent an entire round on liberation peak just shooting down recon drones

[worthy pilot]

well its different ye

[short peak]

The phantom skins aren't too bad I'm mostly referencing the white grey red gun with "futuristic" decal

[fervent wind]

Anyone have an answer on whether we’ll be able to turn off / control the settings of those circles around heals? I really hate it.

[snow spire]

If anything for better worse for worse it won’t be as universal as the older modern games but it will be like a more realistic toned down and militarily accurate version of 2042’s direction with cosmetics (basically the opposite)

[tight prism]

because microsoft owns activision

[worthy pilot]

i love shooting casper drones with stingers. its overkill af

[errant jetty]

So you are saying BF6 choppers handle even more differently compared to, let's say, BF3 and 4?

[bronze grail]

and it's free points

[worthy pilot]

from what i heard from ppl ye. bf6 vics were slow/sluggish

[short peak]

I'm hoping tbh, worst case they release a couple, people don't like it and they back track. I just don't want 2042 skins again

[short peak]

They are NOTHING like 2042 driving

[bronze grail]

baiting jets to drop flares only to stinger them right after is so satisfying

[worthy pilot]

ye

[short peak]

2042 have me doing a 1080s in my tanks

[errant jetty]

I just hope Portal can replace server browser and bring back the traditional experience

[short peak]

Change your name lil bro

[snow spire]

Also isn’t that futuristic decal reminiscent of the dark grey and red camo we see in the other bf’s? Or is it actually more futuristic with a different design architecture for the gun

also yeah we don’t want that to happen again

[bronze grail]

but i want the santa skin

ho ho ho 🎅

[short peak]

Yeah a bit, it's already just very different from beta but I should have expected that tbh

[snow spire]

Boris worked hard enough to give all them presents let’s keep him in the near future

[short peak]

I'm just kinda dooming about it I'm very happy with the beta and how it played yeah

[worthy pilot]

boris can disapear forever

[bronze grail]

yeah, the beta was fun

[errant jetty]

Not fully knowing which map to play, and being put in defenders 10 times in a row in rush mode is stupid

[plucky fulcrum]

Is there a reason when Sniping and you are ADSing, you have you come out of the ads you shoot again?

[short peak]

All my hours are boris you hate everything I love

[bronze grail]

chamber the next bullet?

[snow spire]

For collection’s sake I’m sure it’ll be okay and here’s hoping for a we’re so back content wise through and through

[plucky fulcrum]

Yes

[bronze grail]

Do you guys think we're gonna get country patches for our soldiers

[snow spire]

They already showed all the different nato member country skins for each corresponding map they’re supposed to be in, in labs

[kind spear]

would be cool

[snow spire]

Patches I think also

[kind spear]

custom emblems next to our flags

[short peak]

Yeah I want everyone to know canada is about our vehicles

[bronze grail]

I hope we'll get a GROM skin somewhere down the road

[snow spire]

EA would never, bo2 and 3 was the prime reason it got removed from cod after lmao

[bronze grail]

🥺

[plucky fulcrum]

How many jets do you think its gonna be?

[kind spear]

shhhhhhhhhhhh

[worthy pilot]

well hes the objectivly worst pick for engi or any class😂

[snow spire]

Those are sick too Polish operator skins would go so hard

[bronze grail]

I made a few custom emblems in that emblem app that was up for download years ago. It shut down since then and I'm stuck with a cringe MLG emblem now

I don't know how to change it

[snow spire]

gotta support the major league gaming club somehow

[bronze grail]

So now every time I get into a tank in BF1, there's a huge shield with "420" slapped across the tank's side

[snow spire]

lmao I’d say that’s a culture win, keep it as a medal of honour

[bronze grail]

It's cringe, but it grew on me over time

[bronze grail]

Yeaaaah, that would be hella awesome

[snow spire]

Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same. ✍️

[flat blaze]

The Recon Grappling Hook.

[short peak]

probably I just like his turret

[flat blaze]

Boris is goated? Isnt he the one with turrets that work as both a turret and a spawn beacon?

[short peak]

wtf is tactical weapons

nvm its the shotguns

[flat blaze]

Tactical shotgun incoming.

[short peak]

alright time for some 2042 challenges

[maiden fog]

will bf6 have mastery camos?

[worthy pilot]

is that the ironic phrase that he just camps somewhere doing nothing so being able to spawn at?

[bronze grail]

I'm not a bf vet, what's a mastery camo?

[flat blaze]

He camps objective yeah. But hes insane for locking down a zone or area. Those turrets shred mfers.

[flat blaze]

Theyre a cod thing not BF.

[bronze grail]

Oh

[worthy pilot]

wat

[flat blaze]

Lemme break it down for ya: He camps objective yeah. But hes insane for locking down a zone or area. Those turrets shred mfers.

[worthy pilot]

😂

[flat blaze]

CTRL + C My beloved

[worthy pilot]

well he does not and his turret is weak. its a weak turret and a weak passiv to boost a weak turret into not being horrible

[paper trout]

guys i need the best way to farm

[worthy pilot]

get good

redacted blasco

[paper trout]

ok

[bronze grail]

I hope we get a turret in bf6, I want to larp as TF2 engineer

[worthy pilot]

locking down area is done by recon, specially blasco. boris turret does nothing, has no other value besides being an engi. therefore every other engi got more use than him. i heard stuff like " it can spot enemys or shoot them low so i can finnish them " thats only a thing if ur really not good at the game that u need a turret to shoot someone low. i never seen a player maining boris whos actually good in the game (inf only)

[heady bear]

Is BF6 on steam sale now?

[bronze grail]

No, bf 2042 is

For three dollars

[heady bear]

Lemme know if it's on sale so I can buy BF6.

[bronze grail]

It should be in a couple months

[worthy pilot]

ye, will tag u here

[analog badger]

I used to fly choppers regularly in BF3/4 (at that time, with a joystick) and loved to do tricks with them, or just use them as regular vehicles. Choppers in BF6 fly like tanks, but in the air, hard to describe, but nothing really to compare

[snow spire]

Oh Lord please don’t give em ideas lmao

[flat blaze]

How tf Recon supposed to Recon if he cant take the high ground?

[snow spire]

The new mantling and climbing system works perfectly fine, having to make em rock climb or scale buildings is way more balanced

Cuz if they got grappling hooks you’d see people spawn up on mountains and vertical points like pests

Assuming they keep the spawn beacon

[flat blaze]

How tf am I supposed to mantle a 30 ft wall? Recon is Recon. They should be getting things to assist with flanking, sniping, and repositioning.

Yknow itd be peak. Either Grappling hook or setting up ziplines for the whole squad/team.

[analog badger]

"Grappling Hooks are a gadget featured in the Battlefield 2: Special Forces expansion." We already had that. No thank you 😄

[snow spire]

True but there are other ways to scale up and mantle onto a wall like that but if you can’t you can’t - like for example in new sobek city it’ll be similar to siege of Cairo but it could have a lot more positions to mantle on or climb on + roof access is gonna be very prevalent so it’s good for reconnaissance and tactical sniping

[worthy pilot]

recon should get jetpacks

[short peak]

true holy shit

[wicked tusk]

after playing 2042 for a whole whopping weekend i really just can't wait for bf6 to come out

[snow spire]

lmao

[wicked tusk]

the atmosphere and intensity of the experience is just not there, boys
i need those bf1 vibes again where i am crapping my pants in a trench as all hell breaks loose around me with realistic visual and audio
2042 is a hot mess

[worthy pilot]

6 will reach the point of being the best bf game

[flat blaze]

Yes thank you. Grappling hooks and UAVs are for the Recon of the future.

[fervent wind]

Will there be a way to toggle off the bright dashed circle outlines on heals/ammo crates? Like the toggle DICE implemented for capture area outlines?

[analog badger]

Not saying I liked that! lol

[snow spire]

Scaling in that game is definitely not bf it feels like it excels more in CQC like cod level accessibility rather than a truly large bf experience

[flat blaze]

BF1 went so hard how tf did we go from that to BF2042 and BF6?

[wicked tusk]

bf1 i was ripping bowl after bowl trying to cure my PTSD

[worthy pilot]

hopefully we aint getting ww1/2 bf games anymore

[wicked tusk]

didn't help, just made it worse prolly

[snow spire]

If you could climb onto vantage points with a climbing rope with a hook on the end similar to the assault ladders we’ll get it’ll be a good and more promising version

[flat blaze]

Thats def not true. The maps were large. There were a few sectors where it did grind down into 3 lane like cod but then it would expand again

[shrewd abyss]

with the War Tapes VAL i was crapping my pants

[wicked tusk]

i also miss shooting ppl who were riding on horseback
with that fucking rocket gun lmao that was so sick

[snow spire]

Right but the maps usually feel flat and long traversal usually leads to being squashed by a Bradley APC or some guy in a bomber heli, in the classic sense it doesn’t feel like bf but every other part of the game kinda does, does that make sense?

Utility is good if you want to play engineer but not many do and opt for more xp adjacent play styles like recon or support

When there’s too much flexibility many oversee the PTFO part of the game and just focus on infantry more than vehicles sometimes

[short peak]

gj ea put the 60 ribbons on the 3rd tier of challenges why would you make that grindable from the start

[snow spire]

true but it isn’t surprising due to the fact that it’s a free pass and I honestly am only playing bc of the engineer gas mask skin and the other one

‘conveniently’ placed at tiers 50 and 60

[wicked tusk]

forced engagement