#Wuthering Waves

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brittle vault
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i had 14/16gb vram, and 640mb page. after opening and closing the map 2 times, it fixed to 320mb page. this could also be the culprit of some stutters/lag people refer to

nocturne frost
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I don't use FG or motion interpolation

deep nexus
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not sure if this is related to ur problem

amber tusk
deep nexus
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i haven't done new quest so can't really test it in new map
or maybe its the new regions problem
there were strange issues in startorch as well
but it got fixed later

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so far did daily+ran around in startorch and didn't really notice any stutter

amber tusk
deep nexus
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lol can u still c that if ur on the ground?
i can't fly yet

amber tusk
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Shaders.

amber tusk
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i just completely reset them....

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ill try restarting the game

forest badge
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Probably why its happening.

amber tusk
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i remember that something like that was happening when frostlands released and restart helped

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dogshit shaders cant even compile correctly while playing the game

forest badge
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Could be worse.

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Death Stranding 2 on Linux spawns grass in air if you're on low/medium settings.

amber tusk
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yeah restart fixed black walls

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game has bugs as if i was playing on emulator...

ocean elk
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That's Chinese devs for you.

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Time to quit gacha games and move on.

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Play the real slop like the newest Lego Arkham game which requires FG and DLSS to be playable according to recommended specs charts.

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Or the newest upcoming UE5 title that needs x3d CPU with 5090 to get 60 FPS natively at 4k ultra settings.

deep nexus
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deep nexus
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For a game that has 61% score I expected more players.

sudden thicket
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Funny how the "modern audience" never shows up for these games...

amber tusk
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YES, looks like im not the only one kekpepehands

safe prawn
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Seems the true final boss is Lahai Roi performance

pastel spindle
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what's up with this weird scaling in 3.2 story lmao

sterile shadow
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ps1 pixels

balmy warren
split glacier
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It's ass

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Every time you open the program it's a 50/50 gamble whether it will work or throw random issues

woeful forum
brittle vault
woeful forum
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what's the workaround inside Lossless app for that? lowering the Flowscale?

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or just cap fps ingame generally

brittle vault
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Lowering lod bias and decreasing dlss will reduce vram usage

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In ls i dont know

split glacier
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Sometimes it will stutter even when the gpu is chilling

pastel spindle
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"Lossless" scaling is such a grift tho

pastel spindle
brittle vault
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Hiyuki's big d

pastel spindle
safe prawn
pastel spindle
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for the price

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absolutely not??

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that shit should be free

safe prawn
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ok then

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lol

nocturne frost
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but I can't stand the artifacts

deep nexus
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i mean its actually useful if the game ur playing doesn't have frame gen
and can't reach ur desired fps
though the artifacts do become more obvious the lower the native frame rate is

sudden thicket
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Nothing is free. Everything has a cost.

rugged matrix
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urmum is free tho

sudden thicket
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You should give her a call

safe prawn
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Native framegen is obviously better however. Cant wait for the fix

split glacier
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It's a cool tool

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Feel like it shines most in retro gaming

rugged matrix
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Wait

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Co shu nie

mighty fable
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Da heck?

sudden thicket
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Think I'm done playing NTE.
Playing the game makes me feel like a creep playing a game made for children.

sudden thicket
deep nexus
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or just playing with words?

sudden thicket
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Just saying shit

safe prawn
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Game probably wont last very long, its full of AI Slop

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Gotta wait for Ananta now, since they seem to actually have a budget

twilit sleet
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'renodx-wutheringwaves.addon64' won't update for 3.3 ?

safe prawn
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Patience

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HDR on the old mod still works

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The other enhancements do not

twilit sleet
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well,there are some fatal errors from time to time,hhh

sudden thicket
twilit sleet
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It took me 360 pulls.

sudden thicket
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I mean... now you can do solo runs I guess. XP

safe prawn
twilit sleet
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My account is super lucky🥹 LOVE U KURO

rugged matrix
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designs are also generic as shit

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game has no identity

woeful forum
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ngl i mostly play games with good cinematics AND stories with good HDR, BUT if the gameplay is genuinely shit then it's uselessidk why.

Think GOW games influenced that, i can't stand to watch Movies unless they're like Bladerunner 2049, Inception, idk what to call them genres, masterpieces?

that's why i am neutral on Ananta, if cinematics gud and gameplay fine with HDR, also story, DELICIOUS

Now if cinematics + story blended veeeery good like Kingdom Come Deliverance, then it's SWEET

rugged matrix
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@arctic canopy

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WaKeBUP

blazing cove
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oh fuck

rugged matrix
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some companies struggle when translating 2D designs to 3D

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not this one

dawn delta
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Dam it looks good

inner edge
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knew kuro would deliver on the designs

rugged matrix
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looking like a day 0 patch thing

inner edge
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night city sonoro probably

safe prawn
woeful forum
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oh yeah i also like Death Stranding 1 for that same reason, cinematic heavy

safe prawn
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Rebecca from Edgerunners will the free unit

pastel spindle
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Lucy presumably gacha unit and David NPC jail if we're lucky kek

safe prawn
safe prawn
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Again, amazing software for the price

pastel spindle
pastel spindle
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Not to mention LS is just… not good in the first place

rugged matrix
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Its good

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For what it does

safe prawn
rugged matrix
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you know what

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Im too medicated for this

safe prawn
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Man, my hopes of getting Mornye diminish by the day

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There are a few events left but its going to be tight

woeful forum
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idk but if you're as a coder who spends time inventing things no one dares does like Lossless, would you warrant it needs to be free?

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maybe fps unlocker like for WUWA is near free warranted

pastel spindle
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Frame interpolation is hardly a novel invention

woeful forum
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hmmm that is fair but i myself think it doesn't warrant enough to be free

arctic canopy
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@rugged matrix

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your turn

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send report to Kiro

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tell them to just use Reno for HDR

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and to implement Wuwano stuff

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easy peasy

pastel spindle
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Surely they will listen

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Surely

rugged matrix
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i post one bingo up

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and they realized they check all the boxes

arctic canopy
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Just need some Chinese baddie to shoutout RenoDX

rugged matrix
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they'll wait for me to put out the native hdr path addon

arctic canopy
rugged matrix
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and then next patch

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they'll magically have it

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perfect implementation

arctic canopy
arctic canopy
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Soyciety if RenoDX was an instant VIP appeal to authority card and all devs were forced to have to listen to us

plush perch
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pastel spindle
balmy warren
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never seen edgerunners myself but like, holy cook

indigo thistle
nocturne frost
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hoo boy Rebecca is free

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weapon is not going to be free tho

woeful forum
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goated ED and OP

sudden thicket
smoky arch
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wait it is real damn

mighty fable
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It's always as if Cyberpunk has only two characters worth talking about. Sad.

smoky arch
mighty fable
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Remember Aloy in Genshin?

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Collabs are a risk. But instead of going all the way, trying something new, they still tread the same, safe path.

slow belfry
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It was so low effort

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And if my memory serves me right she is one of the worst characters in the game

mighty fable
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Yah, that was hilarious.

teal monolith
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Is there any way to hide the user ID?

smoky arch
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idk if any work at the moment though

mighty fable
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There has been a tiny 100mb-patch. ReShade is not working since for me.

sudden thicket
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Still working here so...

safe prawn
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Still working here

safe prawn
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You guys know if that Dolby Access app on MS store does anything? I do have a 5.1 system

smoky arch
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It can do it for any headphones for a one time payment and for surround sound systems

rugged matrix
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dolby atmos

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dolby vision means and does nothing on pc

smoky arch
rugged matrix
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kk

mighty fable
sudden thicket
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Hard to say.
On latest ReShade?
On latest addon?
Any other plug-ins? Try to isolate.

mighty fable
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I am always checking in here, so Reno is up-to-date. ReShade is 6.7.3
I'll just try to install everything all over again.

safe prawn
feral forum
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I'm curious

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Does RenoDX work with vkBasalt?

pastel spindle
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Reno uses reshade's plugin system

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as far as I can see, vkBasalt just supports basic reshade shaders

pastel spindle
mighty fable
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WuWa re-did the entire UI. Everything in Reno that is related to UI is not working right now. Have to wait for the next update.

split glacier
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Yep

pastel spindle
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which they seem to be taking their time on since basically nothing else broke lol

split glacier
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It is what it is

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I wouldn't mind if not for the crashes

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In currently coping with SDR

pastel spindle
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I haven't had any issues

feral forum
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I think they're also trying to overhaul the filing system as well

sudden thicket
safe prawn
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LMAO I bought a 75% keyboard that doesnt have the home key, cant access reshade now

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Have to figure out whats the shortcut to it]

arctic canopy
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disgusting

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100% needed

safe prawn
safe prawn
rugged matrix
arctic canopy
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dafuq

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Nah only if its one of those split keyboards

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I should be able to use my foot for the second half

safe prawn
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I never saw a 100% keyboard with numpads on the left

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is that for left handed peeps?

tulip flint
safe prawn
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No end as well

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Its a pretty crappy kb. will return it

feral forum
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What brand was it

smoky arch
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omg they got the cyberpunk edgerunners writer to write the collab story and he said it might contain "a bit of sadness"

woeful forum
smoky arch
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I am still recovering from aemeath they can't do this to me despair

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forest badge
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Collectively all players will create the lake of tears.

smoky arch
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watch them make the background song of the NC area be I really wanna stay at your house

forest badge
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That, while we see teaser of David...

smoky arch
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Based youtube managing team.

smoky arch
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don't have any redmagic phone tho

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don't need it

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I honestly hope that wuwa finally gets some optimization on console soon

forest badge
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Lol

smoky arch
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like the ps5 pro can't even run the game at a stable 60fps

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not even like 30fps

forest badge
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I don't want to break your heart, but this game will never get proper optimisation as long as they keep the mobile version around.

slow belfry
smoky arch
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in the meantime I can keep letting WuWa destroy my SSD by redownloading the entire game every update

forest badge
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Always China, Japan and US.

smoky arch
slow belfry
smoky arch
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Even some non collab shit isn't widely available here.

smoky arch
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yeah

forest badge
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I'm glad I managed to purchase my Lenovo Legion Go 2 handheld, there were literally only 2 tech stores here selling them, one was out of stock, the other one only had 2 left.

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After I got my tax declaration money, I bought one, and after an hour, the other one was gone as well.

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Its been quite some time, there's still no stock meanwhile the price keeps going up on official Lenovo store.

slow belfry
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Had to pay 110 euros in customs fee for my Nintendo 3ds that I ordered from Japan despairge

forest badge
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Customs fees are the most retarded thing, and it should be illegal to do.

slow belfry
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Yup it really should be illegal. Making you spend almost as much as you paid for the item just to get past the borders of your country

smoky arch
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yeah customs fees are a pain in the ass

balmy warren
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though, optimizing for that would probably trickle down to lower end cpus on the pc side too

smoky arch
balmy warren
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does it? because like, disabling one ccd to turn this cpu into a 5600x and the game runs like pure unfettered ass

smoky arch
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the thing can run cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing at 60fps so it should be able to run wuthering waves without ray tracing at 60fps no?

balmy warren
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let alone the r5 3600 that a ps5 has

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idk about how the game runs without rt but it only hits around 45fps max for me with my cpu. the game is just super heavy on the cpu especially in startorch

smoky arch
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well yes but still I feel like the current performance is just way worse than it has to be, they can definitely squeeze out a lot more performance

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but I assume console players don't make them as much money as pc or mobile

balmy warren
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i mean they've listened on the storage issues

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its not entirely out of the question i suppose

smoky arch
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I guess

balmy warren
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game is still 100 gigs though

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better than 150

smoky arch
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I should probably install it through steam huh

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I use the official launcher

balmy warren
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there's zero difference

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i just use it for more accurate hour tracking

smoky arch
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does it also have to extract the entire game again every time you update via steam?

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for me it takes like an hour to extract the entire game files after each update during which my PC is basically unusable

balmy warren
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if you mean like, downloading half the game every patch, yeah

smoky arch
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no not that

balmy warren
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but using steam its probably more sensible idk

smoky arch
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after downloading it has to extract like 100GB of files

balmy warren
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oh i think steam does that while downloading

smoky arch
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yeah the launcher does not

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it does it afterwards

dawn delta
smoky arch
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dawn delta
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oh that its becasue I am using a thing that helps compinsate for my monitors APL and was to lazy to toggle it off

woeful forum
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the github apl stabilizer

dawn delta
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yes

nocturne frost
dawn delta
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Dolphin at best

nocturne frost
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Yeah, I guess whales S6 all characters

dawn delta
# dawn delta Dolphin at best

Daily pass/most areas explored/70% of achieves/repetable rewards. Probably about $200-300 a year from the other stuff.

nocturne frost
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I’m subscribed to the lunite sub and I buy the battle pass

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and I do everything in-game

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it’s enough to get the characters with their weapon

dawn delta
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all the characters I dont have

mossy yarrow
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she does so much dmg compared to other s6es
and her bis supp is not out no? 😭

dawn delta
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No clue

mossy yarrow
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but iam skipping her for lucy s6 trust
I NEED THE BANNER TO LAST V LONG

dawn delta
dawn delta
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I only s6 characters I like playing

mossy yarrow
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same it stil depends for me as well

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in wuwa since i barely bull and buy monthly subscriptions I have been able to

s6 a charac
and their full team yearly

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being able to buy 2 copies helps a TON

mossy yarrow
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is there any way to make the bike STOP AUTO PLAYING MUSIC?? like its so annoying

dawn delta
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I fucking hate it too

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especially after a crash

mossy yarrow
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like I have some peak tracks playing through spotify

I dont want to hear a random track inbetween it
I love the p5 and sonic songs tho dont get me wrong but its annoying when it just STARTS PLAYING

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also if the music continued even after I get off from the bike its fine lol

BUT whenever I get off from the bike it gets stopped abrudptly 😭

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also kuro needs to stop releasing BIKE SKINS and release some character skin's or something no?

Bike is going to be useless in the future regions no? and we wont even see our skins

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When update for Reno

dawn delta
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slow belfry
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ocean elk
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i don't think i have that problem

slow belfry
# ocean elk all of them?

Havent tested it much but straight away I notice my gpu usage is around 20% less and view/render distance stops working completely

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No idea why mine broke and yours didnt

ocean elk
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oh you mean the mods, idk about that, i thought you were saying reno

slow belfry
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I was talking about this

ocean elk
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idk about that

slow belfry
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I can live without the UID hide tbh

ocean elk
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same, but not on endfield

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🥲

slow belfry
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Hoping and praying Forge/spiwar return to endfield one day Praylica

bold trench
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just use shadertoggler

slow belfry
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Wym endfield will become peakfield by 2.0 for sure

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100%

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1.2 was already much better tbh

ocean elk
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not gonna have that talk all over again, but i think it could be better. while better i think still missing something

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maybe when vague man stop vagueposting

slow belfry
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It could be better for sure but overall I think it was a noticable improvement over 1.0

slow belfry
smoky arch
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playing wuwa for the first time in like a month or so now on my new monitor

slow belfry
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But Scar is not much different at least from my memory when I played wuwa at launch. All vagueposting and telling stories and using metaphors

smoky arch
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I love RenoDX

ocean elk
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girls talks in riddles

smoky arch
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uh btw can I capture HDR screenshots with reshade?

slow belfry
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Oh yeah she is even worse kek

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Gacha games really love characters that spout nonsencial bullshit that makes 1% sense

ocean elk
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maybe i need to do a new account and play 1.x again

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shit maybe make sense

slow belfry
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Am doing it right now and it is a interesting experience for sure

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At least it runs better than it did at launch

slow belfry
slow belfry
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I would go with this

bold trench
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reshade does the job

smoky arch
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oh also turning off the UI doesn't seem to work rn

split glacier
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amber tusk
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anyone also stutters usually when boosting up with bike (activating wings?)

sudden thicket
amber tusk
sudden thicket
amber tusk
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even reinstalled driver with DDU

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im still not sure if i have something set up incorrectly, in bios for example....but just today i played crimson desert for a bit and it was absolutely smooth experience on highest settings

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i already used process lasso to force cache cores for wuwa, but that didnt help with stutters only improved fps

sudden thicket
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Different engine. So that doesn't mean a ton unfortunately. Could be a setting that UE cares about and CD doesn't. idk

amber tusk
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i hope its not some instability with ram or cpu...maybe i should try cpu setting without OC...hope its not ram too...but i changed my ram settings to use default EXPO profile and it still stuttered, that didnt help...currently im using profile with smaller timmings because it seemed stable too

deep nexus
smoky arch
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I haven't had any issues in Lahai-Roi/Startorch

amber tusk
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i didnt have graphical problems, only stutters during cutscenes when i did story...there were small stutters that were annoying, but during gameplay stutters are much longer sometimes and it doesnt seem like shader compiling, since it keeps happening on same actions and in same zones

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maybe those stutters are more prevalent only if you are on highest possible settings...i have good enough fps, but random nonsensical stutters ruin it

deep nexus
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well u know what i mean: frame problems ur mentioning

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i tune my engine.ini beyond the one on github and still no stutters pre 3.3 patch

amber tusk
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today when i did lahai rois 48x tacet nest i got stutter so long that it went through the entirety of lynaes ult

deep nexus
amber tusk
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on that tacet nest its stutter fest

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ill try tomorrow without config file if it will also stutter

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currently playing without config and stutters still happen, but maybe less...maybe not...not sure

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oh right i think i was using FG x2 with dlssfix addon....that probably caused those huge stutters

deep nexus
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lol is discord search broken?

amber tusk
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yep

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i cant even post image to server

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thought i was semi-banned or something

deep nexus
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im using dmfg with dlssfix, latest dlssg file, only issue i get is the crash when switching to/from UI

amber tusk
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yeah i have that too, but i have feeling like random UI changes like activating ult where it hides UI also introduce stutters or when you go to academy and it says your bike speed is limited, i kept getting stutter most of the time when that pop up appeared

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but tbh im just confused, im changing mulitple things at once when fixing this and i am a bit lost what affects what

deep nexus
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this will be easy as long as u can reproduce it reliably
use bisection and write down the results
u will find the cause in no time

amber tusk
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surely by the time i find the solution to the problem, kuro optimizes wuwa so much that it will no longer stutter anyway

forest badge
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Well, there is technically, quitting wuwa.

amber tusk
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also i noticed that hiyukis first ult has slight stutter every time, didnt notice any stutter on other ults

forest badge
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Time to start playing better games.

amber tusk
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hiyukis ult didnt stutter when i tried playing on lowest settings though...maybe some of those settings causes the stutter...but i was lazy finding out which ....

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ocean elk
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Damn it's been a month since bro upgraded pc and still has problems

forest badge
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Death Stranding is quite fun.

ocean elk
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Death strandings was running great in my r5 3600

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Peak performance, surely not bcuz the map was mad empty

forest badge
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Because decima engine is absolutely amazing.

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Same engine that was used in the Horizon games.

amber tusk
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amber tusk
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DS is one of my most favorite games, i plan to play DS2, but still didnt get to it

forest badge
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Even more demanding zones that I won't talk about due to spoilers.

ocean elk
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Drop wuwa. Game just not compatible with your pc

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Just do mobile gaming

forest badge
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Mobile gaming, ew.

amber tusk
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ILL MAKE IT COMPATIBLE

ocean elk
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It's probably some fucked up code within windows

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Reinstall windows

amber tusk
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however i stopped having stutters even at max settings, but with FG off...however i still get small stutter here and there but rarely, or doing hiyukis ult

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so i think fg did cause my issues

ocean elk
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Join team red

forest badge
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Ironically, I would suggest trying out Linux.

amber tusk
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or maybe if i teleported to startorch and back to new zone, it would stutter again because something is broken in the game...

forest badge
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But the better option in this case is this.

ocean elk
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I don't have any stutter with hiyuki ult

amber tusk
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ReallyMad NEVER, im gonna suck solons cock until he gets tired of me by making the game so unplayable i would get filtered

amber tusk
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Gacha addicts not being able to quit games that are so shit is so hilarious to me.

amber tusk
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i dont think wuwa is shit, just most of the events are and optimization, i personaly dont have issue with other elements

ocean elk
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2k max settings

amber tusk
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If you're spending more time wondering why things don't work as intended than playing the game, its a shit game.

amber tusk
ocean elk
amber tusk
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no

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lol

ocean elk
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Turn off FG then

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Big pc don't need it

forest badge
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^

amber tusk
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needs in wuwa

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i am not playing with fg though right now, new zone doesnt need it

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and i have much less stutters as i mentioned

ocean elk
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Then problem solved

amber tusk
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maybe i should try playing without reshade

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maybe i stutter because of renodx

amber tusk
ocean elk
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Your pc is the reason

amber tusk
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however im not sure if i tried playing story without fg......

ocean elk
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Go vanilla

amber tusk
amber tusk
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probably?

ocean elk
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I don't think so

amber tusk
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but i mean those simple dialogue cutscenes

ocean elk
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Oh

amber tusk
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not epic cutscenes

split glacier
amber tusk
split glacier
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Weird

amber tusk
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if you dont want to crash with fg on, you have to use older dlssfg dll file that only has 2x option and more ghosting or how its called

split glacier
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Wasn't crashing before 3.3

amber tusk
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dlssfix fixes HDR highlights flicker, but makes game crash when you open menus

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it was

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for everyone

split glacier
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After the 3.3 update I'm crashing, even without renodx

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using opti scaler fg

amber tusk
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hmm i dont crash i just stutter

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or well, yes i crash if i used dlssfix and played for long enough until it crashed

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usually happens like 1h+ into the game

split glacier
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The pinball game especially

amber tusk
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and only when you open menus

split glacier
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Constant crashes

amber tusk
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or go into conversation, that also starts crash or cutscene

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disable FG when you play that minigame i guess

split glacier
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Guess I'll ddu or something

amber tusk
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what crash error do you get?

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the usual gpu hung or removed?

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or something else

split glacier
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The game window hides the error unfortunately

amber tusk
split glacier
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But I think I saw hung or disconnect once

amber tusk
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i only get these errors if my oc is unstable

split glacier
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It's stable for like 1-2 years I doubt that's it

amber tusk
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game got more unstable so even oc is no longer stable camellya

split glacier
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🥀

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Someone recommeded 591.74 so I'll try that

amber tusk
feral forum
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Okay new ProtonDW build fixes all the current issues with the game with the updated Vkd3d patch

feral forum
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Including the vkd3d issue that broke Raytracing

final summit
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Yeah I'm getting super unstable performance now. It will just hang for like a minute and I can't know if it will recover or if I have to hard reboot

lavish condor
feral forum
scenic patrol
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How do you set the paper white / game brightness ?

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I only see peak brightness. The only 203 nits thing i see is for the UI

woeful forum
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game brightness is kind of irrelevant (forgot the work)

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deprecated

scenic patrol
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Well renodx usually has a paper white setting.

woeful forum
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yah just repeating what wuwano said, personally i think both of them is the same

scenic patrol
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Yeah I see it now. I think the exposure just multiplies the default game brightness of 203.

rugged matrix
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When exposure does the same thing

amber tusk
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nah game brightness to 233 with exposure to 1.5 is the secret sauce to peak hdr moments

pastel solstice
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Your mother

deep nexus
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#1413548071987576862 message
hmm not sure our wuwa addon is currently built with this in mind

scenic patrol
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I would think 1.5 would make it 300 lol

amber tusk
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however i use 233 with peak brightness at 1200 on my LG C5 55"...but i left exposure at default setting

pastel solstice
forest badge
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The next update is never coming

pastel solstice
forest badge
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I know, hence why its never coming.

forest badge
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A few eternities

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All of this time could be better used playing Death Stranding 2

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Yk

pastel solstice
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Nyet

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I mean of course I want to

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But what I’m doing for this update is going to make future wuwa updates + future other addons in general a lot easier for me

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So it’s nice

forest badge
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Fair

pastel solstice
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It’s an investment in our future

amber tusk
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today i had 0 stutters in the 48x tacet nest...played with no config and no fg...tomorrow ill try with config without fg...if it also wont stutter, that means fg is source of all problems

deep nexus
final summit
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like all the sound effects won't play for a good 20 seconds after you fast travel somewhere and then start playing all at once lol

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I also noticed the game disables DLSS when you're in the cube race menu so my GPU just fucking takes off lol

nocturne frost
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This Cube Derby event... I wanted to quit the game last year because of it

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this is so fucking disrespectful to players who can't login "in time" to support a cube

final summit
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yeah, I work when the bookies are open lol

nocturne frost
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yeah fuck Kuro

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or let us "vote" via a webpage or something

sudden thicket
feral forum
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Like what does the pipeline look like rn

pastel solstice
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So that required a lot of refactoring

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And I’m inadvertently requiring myself to implement DLSS Fix too

smoky arch
pastel solstice
lavish condor
feral forum
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Actually will this affect FSR or is that a seperate thing entirely

arctic canopy
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and custom renderpasses in DX12

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We're testing Crimon and UE5

feral forum
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What does that mean?

pastel solstice
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So I’ll probably stick with what I have at this point

deep nexus
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wait a sec with the current wuwa addon can i use the new dlssfix? or would it just not work at all?

pastel solstice
slow belfry
deep nexus
slow belfry
final summit
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Kuro really needs to take a step back and figure out what they actually wanna do cause the game is kind of flopping under its own weight at this point

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I honestly don't know how far they can push their Franken-UE4

lavish condor
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i mean im gpu limited most of the time not sure how much they can do about that

sudden thicket
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I got DLSS Fix to work. But whenever I move my screen the image would slightly color shift.
Never figured out the cause or the fix so I just stopped using it.

rugged matrix
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remember

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just dont use trash generation

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dont have to worry about trash flickering

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if you dont generate the trash in the first place

sudden thicket
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Thanks tips

balmy warren
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the game is an absolute wreck in lahai roi and I'm worried the later regions are worse (i havent played since mornye release)

final summit
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Septimont is mostly fine, but that latter area with Augusta's story whatever that's called - that's the heaviest for me

balmy warren
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the game's cpu performance being optimized for people running fuckin zen8 3d vcache chips doesn't help

final summit
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the new area this patch is pretty brutal too

balmy warren
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looks like i have a lot to look forward to when the urge to binge story and event quests hits

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like, my main issue with the game at this point stems from their inability to optimize for lower end cpus

rugged matrix
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anyways

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tried the new trash generation fix

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works fine

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also

brittle vault
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huh

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gonna try

rugged matrix
arctic canopy
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We fixed UE5 DoF

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we fixed slop generation

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we have custom bindings so I can fix Crimson slop

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PEAK

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new era

rugged matrix
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i dont even need to patch the hdr path anymore

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or maybe i should

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since it'll make it work with optiscaler

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welp yea there's no crash

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time to remove my pin

sudden thicket
dawn delta
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Im gonna get a new X3d chip next month Prayge for better perf then

sudden thicket
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I'll just put this part here for people if they care to know the basic issue.

deep nexus
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hmm it says its mostly cpu bottleneck but ig with fg u can change it to balanced
at least thats what SK tells me most of the time

late nova
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winmm aswell

rugged matrix
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But like

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Needs hdr ini path to be patched

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But I'm gonna be real with u

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Since it works now I ain't working on this

late nova
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yeah all good

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its only for 50 series that are cucked with afx16

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and the da sharpen

rugged matrix
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What's w4ong

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With AF in game?

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Use model M/L yet?

late nova
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it still has linear parts

late nova
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using m

rugged matrix
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Nice

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I just gave up

late nova
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bro it is NOT sharp from afar

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the people saying m is too sharp aren't using at 1080p input

rugged matrix
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I use sharpen on top of M

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Too

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But yea I just live with no sharpen

late nova
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is there an equivalent in a reshade shader

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with depth aware sharpening

mossy yarrow
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Marty maybe?

sudden thicket
pastel solstice
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it sounded like it had some big pains in the ass

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with ui stuff specifically

sudden thicket
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He said "since it works now" so I wasn't really sure what works now that didn't before.

pastel solstice
pastel solstice
sudden thicket
pastel solstice
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are these crashes that you know are dlss or renodx related?

sudden thicket
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DLSS Fix is only needed when you're trying to use FG with Reno so I don't know which end the failure was on specifically.

deep nexus
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i crashed today right on launch as the first time trying to use the new dlss fix
but game successfully launched the second time
and i did not get any more crash afterwards
also did try to spam the tab wheel

deep nexus
sudden thicket
pastel solstice
deep nexus
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i finished today's daily without crash
i don't have lynae though so idk

sudden thicket
pastel solstice
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also wondering if it is everytime, can you see if it still crashes (with renodx - dlssfix) and (without renodx or dlssfix)

sudden thicket
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I removed DLSS Fix and I haven't had a crash since.

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So it's a conflit with that specifically.

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Also Fuse mentions this about the new build of the Fix. So I'm not sure if I just need to wait for new WuWa addon for it to become stable.

pastel solstice
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i see. well you won't be using dlssfix with the new addon anyway

sudden thicket
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It will be like Christmas when that day comes. ^^

amber tusk
feral forum
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Oh yeah one thing to note

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I don't get Device Hang errors anymore since switching to AMD and Bazzite

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Windows really was just sabotaging my PC

final summit
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Just gotta wait 2 years for MS to make Windows gaming as good as Steam OS 🙃

umbral haven
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can using reshade get you banned on this game?

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i heard its against the EULA

woeful forum
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ask some members here how many years they have ReShade

feral forum
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It's in the same vein as translation patches you see for JP Gachas

hexed lagoon
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Spoilers bro

balmy warren
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okay why is the stuttering so bad. it was never this atrocious on 3.0

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3 second spike of the game being completely unplayable every time you switch characters

indigo thistle
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seems like shader compilation should get better as you play but yeah the game is still broken and stutter no matter what.

balmy warren
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okay yeah its shader comp. why is it just broken now lmao

smoky hatch
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it kinda breaks your initial build for some reason

balmy warren
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i dont even have reno installed

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i just hopped in to get download out of the way lmao

smoky hatch
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they were atrocious on my rig before

balmy warren
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that exists?

smoky hatch
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yeah it's very recent

balmy warren
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oh

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neat

smoky hatch
woeful forum
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that's a neat feature for someone who likes updated driver

mighty fable
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Who uses this terrible app?

nocturne frost
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Semi useless feature

nocturne frost
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You save 1-3 minutes/game after a driver update

smoky hatch
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So I wouldn’t say 3 minutes tbh

nocturne frost
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ok so you update your driver once a month maybe

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and you have a weak cpu

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then you save 5-10 minutes

smoky hatch
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Ideally you want to always be up to date with drivers. Weak cpu or not

smoky hatch
nocturne frost
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the nvidia app itself is a downside and only 1 of 3 nvidia drivers is usable

smoky hatch
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Also 1 driver out of 3 being unusable is a bit exagerated

nocturne frost
smoky hatch
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Fair enough

nocturne frost
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We don’t know how the app works and if it enables a service that monitors your installed app then anything could happen

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and knowing nvidia its going to be full of bugs

smoky hatch
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It’s already up and I have no issue for now

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It disables itself with every driver update which is moronic and weird

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I dont know why they do that

nocturne frost
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I’m not willing to reinstall the nvidia app to test

smoky hatch
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I feel you

nocturne frost
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but if it works fine then thats great

smoky hatch
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At least I dont have any issue with it for now frenzy

deep nexus
forest badge
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Any distro can be a gaming distro.

smoky hatch
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At least I haven't seen any other tools capable of auto shader compil multiple games in the background without actually lauching the game

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it's still in beta tho, so some games might just not work yet

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waiting for wuwano dlss fix into renodx crycat

final summit
forest badge
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They're not.

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If they were scared of Linux as a whole getting better performance, they wouldn't have replaced most of their workforce with their LLM to vibecode the OS.

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Or they wouldn't run half of their UI elements on electron.

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You know what they're doing instead? They're gonna push your CPU to the cool max power short bursts every time you open up their menus so the loading time wouldn't be as bad.

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I can only see this going so well, CPUs for the first time will be pushed to max power on short bursts rather than prolonged periods that we are used to, and know the hardware effects of.

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Also they're never gonna close the gap because they seem to not realise that all of the junk they run in background is causing the issues.

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They openly stated that the new norm for gaming is 32gb DDR5 RAM, if you got 16gb, well, shit, you're out of luck, close your browsers and discord buddy.

deep nexus
smoky hatch
deep nexus
balmy warren
forest badge
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???

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What does macos have anything to do with this here

smoky hatch
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I'm reffering to the auto shader comp which is in beta

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if you have a way to turn it on without nvidia app I'm all ears

balmy warren
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boosting the CPU for a short time isn't uncommon lmao

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the issue is how shit everything in windows runs, not that windows shouldn't be boosting up the CPU for app launches

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you're complaining about the wrong thing in windows, Microsoft is simply catching up

deep nexus
sudden thicket
deep nexus
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im assuming its the same thing/driver side only since when i change it in nvpi, the nvidia app settings also change

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ah didn't realize u need to do that

sudden thicket
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That is where the setting is stored. But I'm not sure if it is the driver that compiles it or the Nvidia App itself.

deep nexus
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ya i c ig u can't do that in nvpi

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thought didn't need to do it manually

sudden thicket
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You at least can't manually make it do it via Inspector.
And I have yet to see it passively do it after a driver update.

feral forum
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Me with my AMD card that already does all of this automatically without needing to download any software

mossy yarrow
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Amd has its fair share of other dum issues tho in my exp

smoky hatch
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what's up with the nvidia app hate tho I dont get it

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there are settings not present in inspector and it's better overall than the previous control panel

forest badge
balmy warren
forest badge
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That's not max power, but sure.

balmy warren
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clocking a 4GHz SoC to 4GHz isn't "max power"?

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like, just look at the residency. 35% at 4.05GHz

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windows is just adding the same exact shit

feral forum
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Question is the HDR working here?

dawn delta
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Your screen shot it would seem not

dawn delta
woeful forum
feral forum
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I'm on Bazzite BTW

woeful forum
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in reshade settings, should be easy to use from that moment on

dawn delta
amber tusk
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Is it normal to get Fatal error crash on game launch when using dlssfix with Display Commander?...i think i had them both working week ago

limpid ermine
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Steamdb says there wasn't an update since end of april...

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but I don't know if they have maybe launcher patches etc.

amber tusk
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I did new clean install of windows, to fix my stutter issues in games, especially NTE and WuWa and it seems like it really got fixed (i still stutter when shaders are compiling, but once they compile its fine 98% of the time...

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and now when i tried installing every mod back into wuwa i cant make them work anymore camellya ....

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im confused

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even enabling Rivatuner OSD gives me fatal crash error sometimes, but maybe thats normal

limpid ermine
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yeah too many hooks/injections into the game can do that
are the crashes gone without DC?

deep nexus
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ya i think theres some strange update today

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im failing to launch it with SK

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was fine yesterday iirc

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can't seem to hook it either

amber tusk
limpid ermine
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@smoky hatch we found some more info

deep nexus
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if i start SKIF before game, it won't pop up
if i start it after the game launches but without injections

amber tusk
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its interesting how my previous windows instlal got fucked up somehow with horrible stutters...i wonder if those bsods/freezes i got broke it...they happened few times right after i installed it and was undervolting my CPU

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right now im not even using process lasso and it works much better than before camellya

limpid ermine
amber tusk
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i wonder if process lasso fucked it all up, but it was stuttery even when i stopped the process, so probably not

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i have new driver

limpid ermine
amber tusk
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interestingly only UE games were mostly affected camellya

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other engines didnt stutter

amber tusk
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or much less stutters

deep nexus
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should i update?

limpid ermine
# deep nexus should i update?

I mean you can try if it helps, but I was just trying to find what update happened recently
cause for some reason there is nothing documented for WuWa

deep nexus
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i was thinking today's kuro patch stopped all injections

limpid ermine
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was there a patch?

deep nexus
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i mean r u guys able to get into the game with injections?

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ya iirc i did daily yesterday

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and today theres an update

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and after update i can't get in

limpid ermine
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that's good info

deep nexus
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i had to use launcher for update

limpid ermine
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I knew it, they love this stuff when it's mobile cross-ports

deep nexus
limpid ermine
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Then I guess we need some devs to look into this, if it breaks SK and Reno/DC then that needs to be debugged more professionally

deep nexus
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so ig u also can't?

limpid ermine
deep nexus
limpid ermine
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haven't updated yet, but I didn't hear anything bad, so it should be fine, especially if you use FG often (with VSYNC)

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Is Spiwar still the dev for WuWa?

deep nexus
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and wuwano i believe, but i don't think thats their problem
its the whole injection(SK/reshade) problem though
cmiiw

limpid ermine
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well people said that Reshade at least doesn't cause crashes, so I think it's the deeper hooks of streamline etc. that might be more the culprit, which normal Reshade wouldn't touch

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but we will see, it's very curious indeed

smoky hatch
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and because of one display commander .ini

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sadly this is not compatible with DC

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(afaik)

limpid ermine
forest badge
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Oh there it is.

deep nexus
smoky hatch
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I had to ask spiwar and we figured out it was because of inspector

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overriding stuff

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and DC too

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now it works

deep nexus
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and now u can inject?

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hmm

smoky hatch
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yes it works now

deep nexus
smoky hatch
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I have it off for wuwa

amber tusk
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yeah this

limpid ermine
smoky hatch
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but DC doesnt work tho that's sad

smoky hatch
deep nexus
#

updated driver and restarted PC
still can't launch game with injection upon start
it just stays in this state

deep nexus
forest badge
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The universe is giving you a sign

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Its time to pack your bags and move on

deep nexus
forest badge
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I haven't played since 3.1

deep nexus
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ah ok

forest badge
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I think I realised that if I need 20 external tools alongside bothering with constantly locked out .ini changes and working around that to make the game somewhat playable and look good, the game might just be bad.

smoky hatch
deep nexus
smoky hatch
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but the game is very sensitive and it starts to piss me off

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right now I cannot get preset M working

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game crashes

deep nexus
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hmm wonder what the patch is about
i c 0 patch notes about today's update

deep nexus
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so SK/DC dead
but reshade still alive
but why though?
thought reshade is more aggresive/more detectable than SK/DC
if they wanna stop injections wouldn't it start with reshade first instead?

sudden thicket
deep nexus
sudden thicket
deep nexus
sudden thicket
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Can use DLSS overlay to check what model is running.

deep nexus
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but changing it doesn't crash anything

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ya don't have that installed
will worry about that if i start noticing frame problems

sudden thicket
deep nexus
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oh wait can i also do that with nvidia overlay?

sudden thicket
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I think there is a way, yeah.
I don't use it so I don't know first hand.
Am sure there is a YT tutorial on how to do it though.

mossy yarrow
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sk and reshade works for me

deep nexus
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And r u injecting reshade via sk as plugin or separately?

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R u swapping dlss files with sk?

mossy yarrow
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I have an amd gpu

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Sk version is latest nightly

mossy yarrow
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@deep nexus

deep nexus
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hmm so it might just be dlss problem
lemme try without sk swapping dlss

deep nexus
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nope still doesn't work for me
could it actually be an nvidia problem?
or am i missing something?

mossy yarrow
#

Hm

deep nexus
#

ya looking back at chat
both ppl who had problem with DC launching also uses nvidia card
though itd be best if someone else with SK + N card can confirm this

woeful forum
#

chat, does OptiScaler Streamline work for y'all? only Nukem works for now

deep nexus
woeful forum
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or wuwa update?

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dunno i just recently came back to this game

deep nexus
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oh no i mean wuwa
wuwa updated yesterday and for me SK no longer works with wuwa (nvidia gpu though)

woeful forum
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is your opti latest version?

deep nexus
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im using nvidia gpu
so no opti

woeful forum
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nvm diff issue than mine

deep nexus
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different issue but might stem from the same cause

deep nexus
woeful forum
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im just using it because i have 2060 super, which doesn't natively support DLSS FG, it let's me use DLSS + FSR FG at the same time

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but i heard it can be used for AMD cards that doesn't support fsr4

mossy yarrow
#

@deep nexus my game just crashed on launch
some ue error 😭

I DIDNT CHANGE ANYTHING

deep nexus
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or do u keep crashing? with SK?

mossy yarrow
#

okay it just happened once

proud canyon
smoky arch
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so if I read the messages in the last thread correctly, this mod cannot be used together with WWMI at all?

rugged matrix
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this mod is made for dx12

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give up the gooner life

pastel solstice
slow belfry
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It's a ton of work

smoky arch
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meh not like I really need any mod other than uid hide anyways

slow belfry
smoky arch
feral forum
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Welp guess I can't use this mod for a while

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Steam Controller does not like Winewayland which is required for HDR

slow belfry
smoky arch
limpid ermine
#

injectors/hooks often get flagged
if it is only something like "generic" blabla, then it is just that
you can also upload it online to get it checked by lots of AVs

slow belfry
smoky arch
#

yeah looking at it more directly I remember having other injectors also flagged as Wacatac.H!ml

slow belfry
deep nexus
feral forum
#

I think it's mostly been broughgt back to light with the launch of this new controller since it exclusively uses Steam Input

sudden thicket
#

Saw a file in chat and got excited for new Reno version for WuWa....

pastel solstice
#

I just really didn’t like iterating on everything needed for character lighting in the state the framework was in 🥲 there are literally something like seven resources (for the character lighting) that each manipulate how the game’s resources work in different ways, and my options were to either flounder in a codebase that wasn’t my style or to take a step back, rewrite what needed to be rewritten, and then make progress a ton faster from there on

rugged matrix
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just chillax bro

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take ur time

pastel solstice
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I’m chillaxing, just wanted to let ppl know what was taking all the time

split glacier
#

dlssg works fine here

split glacier
ocean elk
#

Imagine if it drops and Denia update breaks everything

deep nexus
#

imagine if it drops and wuwa simply denies reshade injection

sudden thicket
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Why would you put that possibility out there??

deep nexus
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seems like they already blocked certain injections
unless it was my own problem for SK