Death Stranding 2

[wet rivet]

what peak

[spare socket]

1k

[velvet trench]

M has issues with motion blur in this game I noticed

[spare socket]

is it something that's like

you know it's there

but can't quite pinpoint

Idk M just looks a bit unstable and I can't quite put my finger on what it is

Haven't noticed any issues with Motion blur tho

what's crazy to me is how similar K looks to E in general

it feels like L/M are the real upgrades

J/K are closer to E than L/M

[wet rivet]

ya

can't wait for RR L/M

[spare socket]

whatchu mean

enjoy DLSS5

[wet rivet]

transformer gen 2 with RR hopefully will have big improvements to boiling

[spare socket]

Hopefuly they're actually working on it and not just on instagram filters

[velvet trench]

No it's super noticeable when it happens. I think it also depends on your upscaling factor and fps. It is way less noticeable when using frame gen, maybe because fps is higher and motion blur becomes less intense

[spare socket]

oh what the fuck

I haven't noticed that

[velvet trench]

Also depends on the scene and background color I think

[spare socket]

and this is worse with frame gen off?

[velvet trench]

Yes, but it might just be because fps is lower, and therefore the motion blur is more intense

https://youtu.be/gPvBWVc7Vg4?t=483

I think it might be the same issue here?

At 8:03

[spare socket]

Ya i see it, hmm

[velvet trench]

But I've only noticed it in GTA and now this game

[spare socket]

K/M

The graph is funny

[thin abyss]

So that's what I'm missing out on

https://tenor.com/view/speed-frustrated-speed-over-it-speed-crash-out-speed-crashing-out-crash-out-gif-12382450018351543960

[spare socket]

so many highlights are like 5x the brightness lol

I can't believe how downplayed the new presets are by tech youtubers

[fluid glade]

yea I immediately noticed how much better particles and highlights looked on preset M/L when trying out for the first time

I could never play with K again haha

[spare socket]

what setting do you have set for motion blur

[velvet trench]

I was using the default 5 I think. I believe it became less noticeable at lower settings

It was more obvious at DLAA

[spare socket]

I'm not actually seeing it

[velvet trench]

Try the very start of the game without frame gen

[spare socket]

ya not using frame gen at all

the ui artifacts are hella ugly

and cutscenes stutter when locked to 120

[fluid glade]

actually if you used fixed refresh so you actually get 120fps instead of 116 the stutters don't happen

[spare socket]

fixed refresh tho

[fluid glade]

or at least that's what I found out

yea if you get locked 120 no issues right?

[spare socket]

if you drop under vsync stutters go hard

[fluid glade]

sure you just gotta make sure you have enough power

[spare socket]

yep

it's there with M

preset L it is

[spare socket]

I'm just using DLSS quality no rt locked to 80

[fluid glade]

I mean yea that works

[spare socket]

From what i noticed RT AO seems to crush corners more as well

which isn't great

[fluid glade]

just saying if you can hold 120fps you can still use FG just make it fixed refresh rate

[velvet trench]

Seems more noticeable against light greyish or sandy backgrounds

[spare socket]

and the image is more stable with RT turned off altogether

[fluid glade]

for some reason the cutscenes judder when base framerate is under 60 it seems

[spare socket]

I think the game needs them to run at 60 or 30

no inbetween

[fluid glade]

yea seems like it

I hope lyall or someone else can fix that

then you could probably use Gsync with FG on a 120hz display

but I haven't seen a lot of people talk about that so I don't know if it's not a known issue yet

[warm osprey]

there probably won't be

DLSS SR 4.5 L/M relies on the same technical stuff as RR 4.0

4.0 RR is already a heavier model than even SR preset L

Nvidia can't combine the improvements and get a reasonable performance

[fluid glade]

not an issue on 5000 series cards I think

[warm osprey]

they will have to make something completely new

[warm osprey]

no, it is an issue even on 5000 series

[fluid glade]

running preset L is way heavier than RR in cyberpunk for example

i have almost no performance hit when using preset L or M compared to K for example

[warm osprey]

it depends on many factors in actual gameplay

but the model itself still is

it's unrelated to actual hardware or games

[fluid glade]

in theory but the 5000 series has way less of a performance hit compared to older GPUs

so it's basically a non issue

[warm osprey]

4000 series too, so what?

[spare socket]

they are not comparable

RR is very different from standard DLSS

[fluid glade]

I'm saying that on those GPUs there is definitely room for RR preset L/M

[warm osprey]

they are, in fact, really comparable, from AI technical POV

[spare socket]

Well one of them does a shit load of denoising

and the other doesn't

[warm osprey]

both are trained Transformer models that execute on the same kind of hardware

they do different things, but are the same in terms of type of workload on your GPU

it is just not feasible to combine improvements of DLSS 4.5 and RR 4.0 for technical reasons at this point

it's not an accident that Nvidia didn't do that

or not a matter of different priorities

and they already showed that they are gone working on completely different stuff for DLSS 5.0

[fluid glade]

I still don't see a good reason not to have DLSS 4.5 for RR?

[warm osprey]

technical limitations

[fluid glade]

what technical limitations

[warm osprey]

it's not an easy thing to explain briefly

I'm not ready to provide a two page essay here rn, sorry (I just woke up kek), but you can easily find this information

just don't hope and wait for nothing, the likelihood of RR 4.0 ever working with DLSS 4.5 (in a form of RR 4.5 or in any other way) is practically 0, Nvidia will have to come up with something completely new to achieve similar results

[wet rivet]

RTAO looks fucked on foliage

weird boiling

turned it off

[spare socket]

RTAO is actually really slow to accumulate
Off/On/On after a few sec

[spare socket]

ya it's not good

There's boiling in general in the game, but RTAO makes it even worse

in interiors as well

[warm osprey]

RTAO is unusable, I disabled it too

[cold cargo]

Shi is so fine

[cold cargo]

True its so bad

[warm osprey]

and tbh I consider disabling RT reflections simply because they clearly tried to make reflections not noticeable in most cases

there are too little actually reflective surfaces, unlike DS1

everything is rougher, more worn down, less flat

the weirdest part of DS2 for me is that like half of the Orders for Sam aren't about delivering anything anymore

feels really weird to press "Deliver" and then Confirm an empty list

[tight stratus]

The biggest hope about this is that the developers will fix it? 😕

[spare socket]

there should be a new frame gen model end of this month

that supposedly helps with ui elements

[short charm]

I thought it was only a new adaptative FG

[reef copper]

Is the default DLSS preset K? I've read somewhere that it is 4.5 by default, altough I'm not sure whether that was true

[wet rivet]

people on nexus don't like that the mod isn't deep fried

gonna add a deep fried preset

normally we call it hdr look but I need them to feel my disdain

[thin abyss]

Always wondered why the HDR Look presets were so shit

Makes sense

[wet rivet]

have to appease the cattle

[fluid glade]

💀

[wet rivet]

they think psycho isn't working because they can't see the very obvious clipping

[fluid glade]

I also don't understand that there literally are slider

sliders

just use them

my god

[wet rivet]

anyway this is the deep fried preset

              {"ColorGradeShadows", 75.f},
              {"ColorGradeAdaptationContrast", 60.f},
              {"ColorGradeSaturation", 55.f},

defaults / deep fried

looks fine here but i imagine interiors might get cooked

[shadow wave]

call it nexus preset

haha

[fluid glade]

lmao

[wet rivet]

what even is this

[fringe harness]

lmao

[ancient musk]

profound questions from BIGDICKBULL over here

[fringe harness]

big dick question for sure

[shadow wave]

anyway, after backreading. I tried preset L on quallity. It lookds better compared to preset k. Expensive though

[wispy crescent]

Moooooosa gets the best users

[tight stratus]

But Reno itself has a more "HDR look" than the native in this game 🤨 lol, they need more

It also depends on the screen people use, of course

[wet rivet]

they're probably lowering the luminosity slider

doing that cranks up the contrast and saturation

[spare socket]

seems to be doing the nvidia recommended thing, M for performance, K for everything above

Imo L/M looks the best here

[fluid glade]

that looked kinda bad though when I tried it

I mean 1 step down or so was okay<

[wet rivet]

luminosity at 6 and brightness at 5 looked good to me. Fairly similar to sdr at 100 nits

i would be fine playing through the game unmodded like that

just with liliums shaders

[reef copper]

Thanks

[rose valley]

added deep fried 🤣

why are they even looking for a mod if they like default hdr

[reef copper]

potentially because default hdr is broken with dlss

[fluid glade]

yea one guy is determined to play the game with PICO instead of DLSS and Reno

just for native hdr

[spare socket]

They go out of their way to increase contrast with default HDR and not with Reno

it's crazy

[rose valley]

true makes sense

[spare socket]

with default settings for both, Reno does proper gamma correction so it looks punchier

i don't even understand

[fluid glade]

yea only explanation is indeed what musa described

they lowered luminosity on native hdr to make it look deep fried

so they thought reno looked flat probably

[spare socket]

top of the charts with this one

Native / Reno default / Reno deepfried

[thorny badger]

oh, so that's what was causing that effect on the foliage in the forest during the intro, when you were heading to the base and building a watchtower

yeah so RTAO is fucked for sure

I'm disabling it

feels like classic nixxes ports lately, unfortunately. They add some cool stuff on paper, but it's undercooked

[wet rivet]

updated

i added a lut scaling slider as well

[shadow wave]

reco valu for that slider is default?

[wet rivet]

haven't gotten to a place with raised luts so I can't test it but 100 is likely good

so looks like they added the hdr luminosity setting to console in a patch

cursed settings though:
https://girlcockx.com/keremitough/status/2034770211849556250

keremito (@keremitough)

@HDRgameAnalysis Are these settings also in the PC version? They got added to console. It helps a lot with maintaining paper white with better black level

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girlcockx · Mar 19, 2026, 11:13 PM

luts are raised in some areas:
https://girlcockx.com/HDRgameAnalysis/status/2034811882826093026

HDR game analysis (@HDRgameAnalysis)

@JosephStPaul This is the massive black level raise at night time out in the open world if you don’t adjust LUTs.
︀︀
︀︀Thats why I think its worth changing the LUTs.

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girlcockx · Mar 20, 2026, 1:58 AM

[thin abyss]

Yeah they definitely are

I thought you knew that

[fluid glade]

I don't think that's an issue though

[cold cargo]

I have those settings because oled

[wet rivet]

it breaks hues and saturation

[cold cargo]

oh

[wet rivet]

the luminosity setting is this cursed mix of brightness and gamma

[cold cargo]

That explains a lot

[chrome heart]

this is like the 3rd delivery, so easy to get to that spot, looks like night

[thin abyss]

Shoutout girlcockx

Does updating Reno trigger shader recompilation

[cold cargo]

nah

wait it do

[thin abyss]

Yeah idk mine are compiling rn

[cold cargo]

[thin abyss]

Some of my graphic options were reset aswell but idk if that stems from this

[cold cargo]

didnt happen to me so no cule

[spare socket]

@wet rivet

pops up on latest version

it also doesn't load

[wet rivet]

omfg

[spare socket]

Smart App Control blocks it for whatever reason

[late aspen]

disable it then

[spare socket]

I have

But dunno if nexus users will

[knotty bobcat]

what even is smart app control? is it just extra windows antivirus thingy?

i have it off and cant even turn it on if I wanted tto

[reef copper]

What's "Deep Fried"?

[wet rivet]

extra contrast and saturation

[spare socket]

🤷‍♂️

I can't turn it back on either

good riddance

[twin monolith]

it won't make you play games that does "suspicious" things but generally it's needed to be on for normal civilians who don't know how in computes

[normal sleet]

these are all dlaa right?

[spare socket]

Quality

DLAA doesn't noticeably change the image in terms of highlights/detail retrival

[normal sleet]

So I'll stick with preset K I guess since I'm on DLAA

[spare socket]

I wouldn't

[normal sleet]

But it doesnt change much?

[spare socket]

K quality looks similar to K DLAA

U really wanna use L or M

K DLAA / K Quality / L Quality

L Quality is significantly better than K DLAA, not in a place where it's extremely obvious and cba going there, but should be visible enough in those screenshots

[normal sleet]

I've found that M in anything higher than performance tends to oversharpen edge a bit, making aliasing more visible, I guess it also depends on the game

[pale delta]

I knew L was better than K for highlights but does it fix the rain issue with K DLAA (and older presets) in Death Stranding?

Even with DLAA preset K rain was disappearing in games I have played. How is L now?

[short charm]

I still use K for these reasons

[spare socket]

Rain L Quality

It's very good

[pale delta]

Last night, I was seeing a lot of rain particles in FF16 with DLAA preset L but didn't have the right tool to change it to K on the spot

[spare socket]

doesn't even smear

[spare socket]

Can try M as well

it's less smeary

but less stable as well

[pale delta]

M isn't as stable as L though. At least in the games I tried.

(I was using Quality/DLAA)

[spare socket]

I don't have a screenshot of it on hand, but L and M preserve rain drops on vehicles and stuff as well

it looks really good

idk about K tho, it might as well

[pale delta]

Last time, I used it in a game with rain, rain drops were not really visible. I think it was Dragon Age (the shit one that came out 1-2 years ago)

but maybe I am remembering it wrong

[spare socket]

Nah K definitely looks worse

Rain itself with preset K is smeary and overaveraged

tried PICO a bit as well and it's pretty bad even on Native

[solemn osprey]

I noticed really bad shadow crawling with preset M and L on brick and rock surfaces at night, especially in the forest ruins area. I find M and L to be a mixed bag overall, with clear drawbacks in handling of reflections, volumetrics, and increased raytracing noise in most games.

[wet rivet]

I tried preset l and in one area got had weird noisy pattern on the ground

didn't actually check if it was preset l causing that

[spare socket]

This is generally due to game denoisers, if you can disable those, M and L look excellent, but they do cause some moire patterns yea.

[spare socket]

Seems to be a game issue, I've seen some as well, tried PICO and it was still there

might be worse with dlss tho idk

I also found foliage flickering

I turned LoD to High and that seems to have fixed it

then turned it back to Very High and it was still fixed

it's a little weird

[crystal ravine]

"added deep fried" lmaoo

I notice the preset moved from 2.2 (By Luminance) to 2.2 (Per Channel)? what's the difference?

[spare socket]

Rain droplets

Screenshot doesn't even do it justice, it looks excellent in motion

[shadow wave]

6.9mb patch

[zealous stag]

is reno working for anyone with the latest patch?

[edgy wyvern]

no its not working

[wet rivet]

Does it work with DLSS off

[edgy wyvern]

tried it without dlss, its working

[wet rivet]

Not sure if I wanna nap rn or just power through and see how much they broke

[edgy wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/don't-leave-me-viralhog-stay-with-me-raccoon-holding-on-gif-4430225673729818747

[timid mist]

Nixxes fixes native HDR for DLSS but breaks reno

[split cosmos]

Is musa napping

[slow forum]

Damn DLSS HDR looks awesome now but Reno is not working currently ATM.

[hushed leaf]

Will have to wait for musa then:p

[late aspen]

Leave musa alone

Let them cook

[radiant light]

ooh nice

@nocturne flint maybe the new hotfix will help ur crashing issue

[hushed leaf]

U cannot rush a master chef

[split cosmos]

Nah I was gonna say let him nap

[wet rivet]

fuck it just gonna do it now

hopefully a lot of shaders didn't change

[normal sleet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/undertaker-still-alive-1

[fluid glade]

ohno

the green skies are back

[fringe harness]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-5393564689460670681

[fluid glade]

omg the defects of native hdr are so much more clear now that renodx is gone haha

I don't understand how people on nexus could not see this

[tepid oracle]

I had to turn the game off because highlights were clipping so much. The sky was almost all white in episode 1 of the game

[timid mist]

i had to stop playing

[fringe harness]

yeah me too, im here starring at Dollman waiting hahah

[fluid glade]

guess I'll wait too

[timid mist]

"The native HDR is amazing. The skies really have a nice green hue to them"

[fluid glade]

lmao

and it's not even just the sky either

[raw sinew]

I was mid installing the renodx fix and then the game updated to fix the DLSS issue lmao

[wet rivet]

working on it rn

just a couple shaders

can have it out shortly

[tight stratus]

If they haven't fixed the ghosting, I still won't be able to use DLSS FG

[fluid glade]

they haven't

[tight stratus]

then there is no point in all this

[fluid glade]

I mean at least they kinda fixed the DLSS bug but yea nothing interesting for us haha

[tight stratus]

If only there was a way to separate the alpha channel

[crystal ravine]

I'll just keep my game running until reno update lmao

[crude sphinx]

ui brightness doesnt work properly. it always shines 10k nits

[signal pine]

waiting for musa myself had to stop playing

damn the clouds are a disaster

😂

[unkempt lava]

Hey all! Could someone point me to good settings to use on a Samsung S95C TV

[hazy sand]

with dlss?

native hdr?

[crystal ravine]

for me the slider did decrease it?

[lone sinew]

My sliders aren't updating at all now

[earnest skiff]

I'm loving the deep fried preset cuz I like the more saturated look

[lone sinew]

Oh it hasn't been updated yet my bad

[wet rivet]

updated
https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/8?tab=files

[signal pine]

thanks man

can play again

[thin abyss]

Cheerrrrrs

https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/16?tab=description We finally have an FOV mod. Reshade-based too

[hushed leaf]

BLESS YOU

[timid mist]

https://giphy.com/gifs/usdd-to-pray-used-6eAbNaPng9nIbQ1XTN

[hazy sand]

musa how about that nap?

[fringe harness]

does it mess with cutscenes too?

[thin abyss]

No clue. I'll test it out now

But I imagine so

[fringe harness]

Lmk

[thin abyss]

Will do

[knotty bobcat]

he took jon bernthals advice

napping is for the birds

[pine crag]

Musa is a national treasure

[covert hawk]

For anyone here who also thinks the games textures look bad change the mip bias manually in NVPI revamped

I think it looks better with it set that way

Nixxes may have forgotten to change them based on upscaling levels

[covert hawk]

Did you see he had to "apologize" for this recently?? 😂😂😂

Gotta be doing something right when that's your worst controversy lmao

[distant shard]

90% of the games I played with renodx were Musa mods 👀

[thorny badger]

does this game even need an fov slider, though? I feel like fov is part of the narration here, like those cinematic camera moments where the game automatically widens it. I wonder how this mod works with it

[thin abyss]

It seems to just be a multiplier. so all those moments are still there. Idk about cutscenes yet

[pearl harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-cage-how-absurd-absurd-gif-15291770

[unique pulsar]

loooooooooooool

[knotty bobcat]

yeah lol it was funny af dont think he was forced to, just asked

[raw sinew]

legend, sent you a ko-fi

[knotty bobcat]

funniest of em all is that he didnt even apologize he just doubled down on it lol

[unkempt lava]

Hey what am I doing wrong? If I change any setting in the renodx menu nothing happens

I’m using the latest update btw

I only see changes happening when I am in the hdr settings menu of the game itself

My bad. Was not using the latest version 😩

[thin abyss]

It does

Pretty sure

[fringe harness]

ok thank you mate

[thin abyss]

My pleasure

[real valley]

I was wondering, how do you take an HDR screenshot of the game in a format that works on Discord?

[urban tapir]

Reshade for HDR screenshots

[real valley]

the regular screenshot from reshade or an plugin ?

[urban tapir]

There's a setting to save as HDR png

[covert hawk]

LMAO

the game ships with super outdated directstorage

somebody uploaded the newer dlls online and it fixes all my stuttering

fucking nixxes

https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/18?tab=description

if anyone else is interested

[urban tapir]

Classic nixxes. Either updating or just getting rid of the direct storage DLLs usually improves performance for people.

[fringe harness]

even with FG?

[covert hawk]

fg never caused me stuttering on its own

but yes

[fringe harness]

fuck let me try

FG stutters for me a lot

[hazy sand]

anything on uncapping fps on cut scenes?

[normal sleet]

not yet it seems, what a strange choice to cap them at 60, usually it's 30 for physics reasons or some hardcoding reason, but the game is already designed for arbitrary framerates, why cap it at 60???

[hazy sand]

no idea!! and cutscenes here are so beatiful!!

it worked well on claire obscure

[real valley]

i don't see it did i miss an addon ?

[hazy sand]

im pretty sure it will work well here!

[covert hawk]

also the fov mod is causing stutters on my end

gonna disable it

[normal sleet]

The worst thing about death stranding 2 cutscenes is that even the tiniest scene count as a cutscene, Sam loading cargo at a destination? Cutscene, for some reason, like the assets are clearly all the gameplay assets, everything is the same and yet it switches to 60 even for those short moments, it's so jarring

[urban tapir]

It should be in the settings options of reshade UI. Near options for screenshot save location iirc

[real valley]

i do see the option to have it in png but when i take it it's an sdr screenshot (sorry it's in french)

[short charm]

The game is sent with v1.2, this mod upgrade it to 1.4

[hazy sand]

this is same shit they did with ratchet and clank back in the way

and i can confirm what when i switch them it improved the stutters

i didnt even fathom that they will do this thing here again

so i will be replacing!

[short charm]

Is there any cons to do this ?

[covert hawk]

if you keep a copy of the old dll files you can just switch them back if it makes it worse. so no.

you could also verify game files in steam if you didnt make a copy

after some testing it seems that resizeable bar helps tremendously in this game

fixed remaining stutters

0x0000000060000000 seems to work well

^for the size limit i mean

[short charm]

For FPS stutters, did you see this Nixxes answer in Steam Community ?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/3280350/discussions/1/809097865497656890/

[urban tapir]

That's weird. I don't see the settings for HDR screenshots here. Can someone else send a screenshot of their reshade settings page showing the HDR screenshot settings?

[fluid glade]

screenshots are HDR by default

make sure you open them in a chromium browser

the windows viewer doesn't support hdr, it will show them in SDR instead

if you open the produced pngs in Chrome for example it will be HDR

[chrome heart]

classic nixxes

hammering the PCI-E bus as if it's your neighbors daughter

I like how they're acting oblivious while it has been a well documented issue with the way they handle datastreaming since at least Horizon Forbidden West.

[short charm]

I bet they did the same with Spider Man 2

[covert hawk]

Spider man 2 was the worst of all

Truly terrible port

[fluid glade]

btw @wet rivet the fires are very pink by default

I set hue correction to 30 in the left screenshot

right is 100

a blowout slider would be nice

they seem very saturated still 🙂

maybe 50 looks a bit better

[late aspen]

Placebo normally

[fringe harness]

FG stutters in cutscenes are fix for me with this, tyty

[normal sleet]

I have a gen 5 running at gen 5, still get micro stutter if I unlock the frame, tried rebar as well and directstorage update, still the same, this isn't the first nixxies port with this problem btw, I've experienced something similar in other nixxies ports as well.

[covert hawk]

yeah same. even with all the fixes there is still some occasional stutter

i also used process lasso to set the game to use the cores with more cache

only applicable for dual ccd amd cpus tho

[normal sleet]

If you play with mouse and keyboard you might not notice them much but with controller the microstutter is pretty constant and quite noticeble

[covert hawk]

Yep

That's what I'm using as well

[normal sleet]

It's 2026 and this is what? THeir 4-5th port? This mofos still can't figure out how to make vrr work, insane

[covert hawk]

Yeah I'm really not surprised they were shuttered

Their ports all had a bad rep bc of performance except for like their first few

So ofc sales were poor

If they were good ports would've made way more money

[fluid glade]

I don't think that's why sales were poor

[covert hawk]

They don't understand the level that word of mouth opinions affects sales on pc

[fluid glade]

but doesn't matter

[covert hawk]

Way more then other platforms

I mean why else? They were super sought after PlayStation games

Only thing that hampered them was the technical state

Especially Spiderman 2

Oof

[fluid glade]

because they were released after a year or more after the game has already been out

you can't create as much hype around a game as on its initial release

[covert hawk]

Oh for sure that as well

[normal sleet]

I never understood why DF glazed them so much over the years, their ports have almost always been kinda shit

[covert hawk]

But people def still wanted the games here

[covert hawk]

Yeah

I've been opening my eyes to df being kinda shit lately

Or well

They have been for a while

Only realized recently

[warm spade]

I hope Alex calls out the visuals of crimson desert

[normal sleet]

I think they're still the best around for retro content and cool insight into the tech of games, Alex's video about motion blur has always been one of my favorite examples to show why I love the channel still

[timid mist]

Native HDR clouds

[normal sleet]

But they do glaze things way too much, that is truee

[covert hawk]

True

I'm still subbed for that lol

[covert hawk]

Probably also lack of manpower with how small they are as well

Like maybe they don't have enough people to do enough testing to find all negatives before consumers get their hands on it

[normal sleet]

Yeah and Alex has been struggling with health problems for a while now so that doesn't help as well, especially since he's the most important one of the team imo

[fluid glade]

I like John's content the most

he seems like the real actual gamer and I like most of his takes

[normal sleet]

I like john's passion for sure, but in the practical sense I think Alex is more "valuable" to the content that DF historically produced

Alex is more a tech focus creator, John is more a vibes focus creator, both have their strenghts and I like them both but imo Alex within the company has more value, the recent DLSS debacle kinda of also proved that, he basically came to cover Rich and Olivers butts in the apology direct with a far more reasonable take and discussion

He's also the most knowledgeable when it comes to videogame tech in general, which definetely helps when you're part of a tech focused channel

[covert hawk]

I do feel like John and Alex could branch off and do their own thing and it'd end up higher quality

But will coming back should help

[normal sleet]

Funny you say that because I legitimately think that they thought about it after the DLSS5 incident, their dissatisfaction with DF on bluesky was palpable, never super explicit but you could tell they were pissed that Rich didn't consult them before making the direct

I mean John straight up was MIA for the apology direct, he was definitely not feeling it

John also mentioned a bunch of times how burnout he sometimes feels with the type of content he sometimes has to make for DF, long story short, I wouldn't be super surprised if John and/or Alex pulled a "why I left Digital Foundry" once their contract is up

[hazy sand]

has anybody tried dlss quality with preset L?

[fluid glade]

that's how I play exclusively

any game

[hazy sand]

like damn!!!

preset L is powerful af

no wonder the recs are performance mode

i came to try it cause i had some head room with preset M

and the difference is clear

[fluid glade]

yea L is the king for me I don't care if it's heavier to run

it's totally worth it haha

[hazy sand]

oh it is heavier ahahah

takes away 20 fps easy

but i'm at 90s now

is literally DLAA almost

with 20 fps more ahah

[velvet trench]

Yes but at 1440p, so the performance hit isn't as big as 4k

[knotty bobcat]

I use L as well for every game, especially because of hardwares unboxed recommendation

not sure if theres an instance where M is better, since its "oversharepened" apparently

[hazy sand]

I never got to use it cause i play at 4k and it will tank my fps

but this one is so well optimized i said let me check

[rotund salmon]

L has some oddities sometimes and it can ghost a little more in certain scenes

[fluid glade]

preset L does tend to have aliasing sometimes though but it's still my favourite out of all

[hazy sand]

and that draw distance and mountains

look so sharp!!!

[velvet trench]

M and L both have additional aliasing compared to K sometimes

[fluid glade]

yea

[rotund salmon]

little isolated stuff like this as well, where L botches this spider web but M, K, and E don't

[fluid glade]

on older models I never saw one bit of aliasing

[covert hawk]

such a good game

[fluid glade]

with preset L/M first time I'm seeing aliasing again

[covert hawk]

fell to my knees when they announced sequel wont be on pc

[fluid glade]

but it's still best overall especially for highlights

[fluid glade]

is this returnal?

[rotund salmon]

yeah

[hazy sand]

haven't seen ghosting yet! not sure if is becuase im using quality

[fluid glade]

oh man yea that game was great

real shame about Saros

[warm spade]

Is output scaling still noticeably beneficial to u with M/L? or do u just recommend it for Ray reconstruction to reduce boiling

[velvet trench]

Yes

[tepid oracle]

You guys use preset L Quality at 4K or 1440p? I have a 5070ti and at 4K using Preset L Qualify (RT off) I am getting low 60s with drops in the high 40s to low 50s

[velvet trench]

M/L are literally unusable to me at 1440p

without output scaling

not exaggerating, I hate how it looks at lower output res, I would rather use K if I couldn't use output scaling

[warm spade]

Still using a 3.0 ratio? 960 to 2880

[velvet trench]

Yeah

[warm spade]

I just wish there was a way to reduce the rt noise

[hazy sand]

i don't notice much noise with L and i have ray tracing on! in guessing RT here is not that great

[velvet trench]

I have RT off in this game, but the noise is pretty noticeable in other games

[hazy sand]

yes!

[velvet trench]

I would use FSR1 with M/L since they're already so sharp and have additional aliasing at times. Lanczos makes the aliasing way worse @warm spade

[hazy sand]

in other games i don't use M at all

with RT

[warm spade]

The resident evil games are annoying with rt

K has horrible volumetric ghosting with the flashlight

And M/L make rt noticeably worse

[hazy sand]

but RE thankfully has RR so you can get away with M!! i can't imagine that game with no RR, but i played it with K

[warm spade]

Yes for requiem I used pt

I mean in the re2 remake with dlss modded thru reframework

[velvet trench]

This is the first biome right? How often do these spider webs show up? I want to see if I can replicate it, that's really bad

[rotund salmon]

it's the first biome in the second set of levels

so fourth total

[hazy sand]

oh i see!! i played 2 long time! never tried the dlss mod

[warm spade]

Dlss isn’t perfect modded it breaks the ui

But still better than the atrocious taa used in re engine

[hazy sand]

i remember i wanted to try it the same way i did dlss on dead space but it was more complicated than that so skipped it

forcing the dlaa

[velvet trench]

The UI is way less ghosty with dlss 4.5, but having bloom on still causes issues

[shadow wave]

anyone tried this mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/deathstranding2onthebeach/mods/16

nevermind the above. Lyall already has a mod!

https://codeberg.org/Lyall/DeathStranding2Fix

[velvet trench]

Okay I see it, but it doesn't seem to be as bad for me as your screenshot. Does the volumetric fog flicker for you on M/L? On both M and L the fog starts flickering like crazy

It just randomly stopped, idk what that was

[pale delta]

Ray Reconstruction preset E is a must if it is available in a path tracing /ray tracing game.

[velvet trench]

I found E to be really ugly in RE9, it would oversharpen and cause ghosting

Also hallucinated texture detail in-motion, at least on the stairs in the care center

[crisp notch]

from everything ive seen so far the RT is so close to pointless in this game (and i am a certified 💯 drank the kool aid RT enjoyer) that i would just ignore it completely

[warm spade]

def was added as an afterthought

im just using L and no rt in this game

[crisp notch]

decima is such a cool engine to begin with - just a bit sad to see it implemented in such a pointless way as its initial showing in that engine

[crisp notch]

yeah thatd be my recommendation too - decide whether you prefer L or M

stick with that

M seems clearer to my eyes but a bit less stable than L esp when using FG

[warm spade]

did they fix the cutscene stutter with fg?

i wasnt using fg because of it

[crisp notch]

ray reconstruction is generationally better than any other denoiser when it comes to making path tracing playable on today's hardware, but now that we have 2nd gen transfomer DLSS-SR, its no longer worth using outside of real PT games imho

it used to be great for lumen noise etc in UE5 games with shitty software lumen implementations but the downsides it causes to image quality arent worth it any more in those instances, now that we have L/M

[fringe harness]

i got fixed by updating the directstorage version from 1.2 to 1.4

[warm spade]

i already updated the directstorage since release

[crisp notch]

i swear to god this is the biggest placebo "this does nothing" fix posted on nexus for every game in existence, but for a nixxes port, i actually believe you lmao

they seem to have a unique ability to fuck up directstorage or - tbh - anything PCIE bus related lmao

[fringe harness]

i havent had any stutter since updating that shit, i don know xd

[crisp notch]

like i said, ill give it a try for sure, this is the 1% of games where i totes believe you haha

🫠

[fringe harness]

give it a try yeah

you loose nothing

[crisp notch]

cant remember what nixxes port it was where Alex at DF had a whole video on how you could get these massive performance issues depending on PCIE bus generation and config even tho on paper it shouldnt matter and doesnt for any other game ever

[warm spade]

ghost of tsushima

[lone sinew]

I updated the DirectStorage and camera movement in the Magellan feels smoother. Traversal on land also feels less stuttery but it still stutters when you move too fast in a bike for example

[spare socket]

Hardware unboxed video is terrible, don’t listen to their advice. He was comparing the presets in games with forced sharpening with no way to disable. Horizon Forbidden West, TLoU1 some early Nixxes (lol) ports as well. Preset M does not oversharpen by default, there are no oversharpening artifacts, however if the game has any sharpening at all, Preset M will exagerate it and look terrible.

He also downplays some of the biggest advantages of the new models

M has more detail than L

L is more stable than M

Try both see which one you like

They both have some artifacts in some games, but are infinitely better than old models especially for HDR

[raw sinew]

is anyone else cranking the game brightness all the way to 500? I feel like the daytime areas are kinda grey/dark at the default purist setting

its not needed for the night scenes though so idk

[cold cargo]

What settings yall using

[split cosmos]

Yeah

[shadow wave]

In game settings?

[cold cargo]

Reno settings

[shadow wave]

Purist preset. Then hue correction at 50, uo brightness at 180

[cold cargo]

Reno no worky I just put in latest ver

maybe I fucked up

ah I did

The dl was marked as sus for some reason?

[split cosmos]

if you got it from nexusmods and from musa then you’re fine, dlls are commonly flagged as a false positive from most anti virus securities

[cold cargo]

Direct storage is a crazy technology

[molten herald]

On my old sata ssd it still loads this fast, it's pretty good, I don't think it supports direct storage or at least not fully.

[cold cargo]

I think direct storage is only for mvmes on pci enabled slots

If you press windows+G go to settings then gaming features it should tell you if your drive has it enabled

[molten herald]

yeah no supported drives, that was my understanding as well, gpu and os supported but no nvme drives

[twin monolith]

where should i open this? it doesn't show Drive status for me

do i need to open it while in-game?

[cold cargo]

no its windows game bar I think

windows key + g is the shortcut

[wet rivet]

I'll force stronger hue shift

updated with stronger hue shifting

[tight stratus]

After the hotfix the ghosting is still there, but for me it's much better now overall

Now it's quite playable

[fluid glade]

I assume this doesn't unlock cutscenes fps?

[shadow wave]

Yes, no option for that. I just adjusted my fov

[fluid glade]

🙁

shame, the cutscenes don't play well with VRR unfortunately

if you don't play them at 30 or 60fps they judder

[tribal otter]

first time i've seen direct storage actually work this well lol

[fluid glade]

looks better now but I still saw a lot of pink streak with the "meteors" fallin down in one scene

[wet rivet]

guess I can make it even stronger

[fluid glade]

fires look mostly okay though

[wet rivet]

vanilla also turns these lights yellow
vanilla peak 300, luminosity 6, brightness 5 / renodx game brightness 100, peak 400

[fluid glade]

yep noticed that yesterday too

[spare socket]

Hue shifting too much seems to affect sunrise as well

Vanilla / Reno default peak 1000

Should've checked sdr as well but didn't realise at the time

I don't dislike how it looks tho

it's much more consistent with the reflections as well

[fluid glade]

@wet rivet some more fires, RenoDX / Native HDR

reno seems to blow out the fires for some reason

I'm using purist preset

this whole particular scene looks better with the original tonemapper to me

RenoDX / Native HDR

[wet rivet]

I could just ditch psycho and use what I do in other games

[wet rivet]

does it look good if you set hue correction and hue shift both to 0

[spare socket]

Native / Reno / Reno hue sliders 0 / SDR, all default peak 1k

[fluid glade]

yea looks better

[wet rivet]

only thing is the electric rods look very different with psycho if you have 0 hue shift and hue correction

they're blue as opposed to the vanilla purple

[wet rivet]

maybe hue shift 100 and hue correction 50 is good

[fluid glade]

yea looks kinda decent

but

no actually it doesn't

fires look good but these sparks look kinda weird haha

reno shift 100 corr 50 / native HDR

haven't checked how it looks in SDR

sdr looks closer to native HDR

[shadow wave]

do you have to delete the reno addon to revert to native hdr? Or just set the tonemapper to none?

[wet rivet]

use the off preset or the vanilla tonemapper

none is just no tonemapper

[signal pine]

https://x.com/GIMBAP_XI/status/2035658089265815742?s=20

This guy says the black levels are raised with LUT strenght at 100 and that's my genuine answer trying to figure out whats going on, am I wrong?
Just trying to understand if there's an actual hardcap or not

GIMBAP (@GIMBAP_XI)

@HDRgameAnalysis I just tried the LUT at 25 strength, but it literally destroys the bluish tint the game is meant to have, even with vanilla settings.

It's the same way the FFXII artists integrated the greenish vintage look in the remastered version, which was intentional and looks phenomenal.

X · Mar 22, 2026, 10:01 AM

With LUT strenght sub 20 it goes down to 0 nits when I walk around in the desert yes but it doesn't look right (there's a bright full moon in the sky)

[wet rivet]

the lut is the color grading

you can do whatever you want

but for a first time playthrough I'd never disable the color grading

it's crucial the vibes and atmosphere

[signal pine]

yea I agree

the way the guy says it tho, it's like the LUT 100 is the reason black levels are higher (?)

[wet rivet]

the lut scaling option is pretty conservative

[spare socket]

Native has raised black

"raised"

[wet rivet]

I care less about existence of raise vs how its raised

like clipping shadow detail always looks bad to me

[signal pine]

if I put Sam in a fully dark room with no lights, do you get 0 nits with these settings?

[spare socket]

if you find said room

[signal pine]

yes same

[signal pine]

which is impossible yea

[wet rivet]

with defaults ya you would if there's no lighting

[fluid glade]

yea definitely

[wet rivet]

the lut scaling setting would map 0 back down to 0

[fluid glade]

I reach 0 nits quite often

in contrasty scenes

[signal pine]

then no point to drop the LUT strenght apart from the fact than it removes the intended tin

[wet rivet]

but if something is 0.05 then its not gonna get scaled down as much with lut scaling

[signal pine]

oh I see

[wet rivet]

basically the entire look of the game is in the lut

[fluid glade]

I get perfect blacks in this scene with purist setup for example

[signal pine]

im using purist too

[wet rivet]

so is hue correction and shift both at 0 giving you the best results for fires?

[fluid glade]

yea at least they're not blown out and they look good to me

[wet rivet]

guess that will be the default now

[signal pine]

oh good to know, dropped both to 0

[spare socket]

Hue correction and shift 0 / 100, 203 nits

still looks pretty blown out to me

[fluid glade]

yea it's still a bit blown out where I tested as well

but it's better than 100

[spare socket]

but the color is better at least

ya it is

at 120 nits game brightness it's quite okay

[signal pine]

damn looks pretty massive gap lol

[fluid glade]

also I noticed if you lower the highlights slider either contrast or just highlights it messes with the peak brightness

it goes up instead of what I expected to go down lol

[spare socket]

Vanilla default (brightness to 29 for ~200 nits) for reference

[thin abyss]

Its the level that sprays piss all over you

[spare socket]

it's almost sdr lol

[signal pine]

he replied

still doesn't make much sense, but ok

[spare socket]

2.2 per channel / by luminance

default, hue sliders 0

per channel actually looks a bit more natural to me here

[signal pine]

the picture on the right looks better to me idk

nvm

the one on the left

[wet rivet]

its ultimately preference but words like "fix" aren't the right thing to use here

raising shadows in the color grading lut is a deliberate choice on the part of the developers

does help with visibility

I think people focus too much on contrast

I'm more interested in what tools they even used for color grading

now that I know how weirdly blue is handled depending on what color space you do your transformations in

sometimes I feel like the dark blue shadows at night can appear a little smeary

the purple tint in shadows in re4 remake has a smeary effect

look at expedition 33 if you wanna see really smeared and fucked up shadows

[signal pine]

yea that is what triggers me a little bit, it sounds like "the mod is hardcapping the black levels" which is untrue

[wet rivet]

like here

[dim yoke]

There are some minor stutters in cinematics

[signal pine]

I understand we run OLED panels and we want games being able to reach 0 nits in certain scenes but removing the original LUT intended by devs is criminal imho, plus I think HDR should be all about increased details than super peak brightness

[signal pine]

try dropping foliage settings to ultra

might fix some popping too

wait but that's crimson

[signal pine]

eh

im trying DS2 on the tandem OLED in a moment again btw

[spare socket]

looks a lot like per channel / by luminance

[wet rivet]

ya i don't recall exactly how I set up the slider but it takes shadows from luminance when its at 100

[spare socket]

I remember trying to replay the game like 2 months ago or so

and everything looked blue

then i clicked on musa preset

[signal pine]

do you guys use colorcontrol? if yes, do you have pure power 2.2 gamma too under advanced EOTF settings?

[spare socket]

infinitely better

[wet rivet]

is that an icc profile

[signal pine]

ye

[wet rivet]

you have to turn it off for games

if youre using the custom transfer function stuff in it

[signal pine]

entirely? 'piecewise' was the default basically

[spare socket]

having any gamma correction while windows hdr is on will mess up with games

at least those that already have gamma correction in place

[wet rivet]

piecewise is fine, that just means it doesn't do anything

the other settings are there to emulate transfer functions

[signal pine]

ive tried bt1886 too but i think it's closer to 2.4 gamma and it was probably intended for LCD, ive put piecewise back

[wet rivet]

bt1886 emulates 2.4 gamma on the windows desktop if you set maximum sdr brightness to match the nits value of the sdr content brightness slider

e.g. with the slider at 5 that means you have 100 nits sdr brightness

if you want to emulate gamma in windows there are other programs

can't remember the name

I just keep windows as is

with srgb gamma

just remember if you select bt1886 or pure power it'll apply those curves to native hdr content as well which fucks them up

since the icc profile applies to everything

[signal pine]

thanks, fixed it

[wet rivet]

lut strength 100 / 25 / 0

[spare socket]

Lmao

fun to see how it's actually the LUT imitating light bouncing

@wet rivet any chance for highlight saturation and blowout sliders?

[wet rivet]

ya I can add them

[spare socket]

0 nit reading

[wet rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/rfk-jr-worm-gif-13460711445765341489

[signal pine]

perfect thanks yea

[warm osprey]

people, beware about updating DirectStorage, the version 1.4 that is currently circulating is a preview1 released a few days ago, in Microsoft terms it means "unstable as fuck, don't use it"

you better update to the latest stable version 1.3

I had no issues even with the version that is shipped with the game, but tried updating to both of these to check them out: 1.4 gave me stutters, 1.3 is perfectly fine

[signal pine]

mhhh

[cold cargo]

I downloaded the one off nexus and it was fine

[fringe harness]

1.4 is fine for me, at least for now

[signal pine]

Same here tbh

Dollman animations are giving me aids

😂

[chrome heart]

poeple really shouldn't just be willy nilly updating random DLLs

there is no actual evidence(i.e. benchamrks) of it improving performance
nobody read the documentation to see whether there are any breaking changes
do we even know in which mode Direct Sotrage is being used?
is the DLL update going to potentially fiz the issues you're seeing or are you suffering from some other issue?

[warm osprey]

the one on nexus is the unstable 1.4

[short charm]

I see comments from people who have replaces DLL, and even deleted DLL and it's 100% resolved

[warm osprey]

tbh, replacing your DLL with 1.4 might even disable DirectStorage altogether

you may try deleting it to compare

[short charm]

Yes, that's what I was thinking.

Maybe replacing them has the same effect as deleting them

[hazy sand]

i did 1.3 when i saw nexus one said preview on the side ahaha

[chrome heart]

anecdotical evidence, issue could have been fixed due to a restart

[icy belfry]

Idk about that one it has some insane stutter during cutscenes which is apparently if you're not locked at exactly 30/60fps

[warm osprey]

yeah, preview1 isn't even a beta I'd say

[fringe harness]

i will try 1.3 but i didnt have any issues with 1.4 yesterday

[hazy sand]

is easy to find

is a package too

[fringe harness]

ye ye

i have it

[warm osprey]

ngl, the new Deep Fried preset looks more like DS1 with Reno than the other two

[short charm]

Isn't it risky to download a wild DLL from internet ?

[wet rivet]

Outdoors areas in general have less contrast in this game than ds1 from what I recall

[thin abyss]

For sure

[thin abyss]

Depends where you get them from

[chrome heart]

Then benchmark it, set up a save, run capeframex and compare.

[warm osprey]

yeah, exactly

[chrome heart]

Le desert filter

[warm osprey]

definitely not from Microsoft's official repository

[icy belfry]

Im not talking about directstorage Im just saying in general lmao

[short charm]

Ok here https://www.nuget.org/api/v2/package/Microsoft.Direct3D.DirectStorage/1.3.0

[warm osprey]

nuget is the Microsoft's official repository, so yeah, it is safe to download

[short charm]

It's in \native\bin\x64

[warm osprey]

yes

[urban tapir]

Usually the only time i've seen any change to performance with directstorage is when people remove the dlls. Updating them is a placebo. This whole song and dance happened once wih SM2 pc port. DirectStorage will not magically fix a shitty port

[cold cargo]

Cranking gamma make me like the look of the game a lot more

[normal sleet]

Yeah for all of this port's faults I was truly impressed with how quick it loads the game, possibly the fastest I've ever seen of any game

[warm osprey]

I can assure you that updating DirectStorage DLLs can definitely change performance, way beyond any placebo range, easily measurable

will it be in a positive way - that's another story

[cold cargo]

I feel a terrible disturbance in how the shadows/gamma are in this game

[wet rivet]

Try increasing the adaptation contrast setting

It’ll increase contrast and saturation without breaking hues

[urban tapir]

🤡

[chrome heart]

Benchmarks where?

[knotty bobcat]

Thank you so much for the info!

Ngl i havent had an rtx card for long so I wasnt sure what source is good for things like this, thought H unboxed was good

Learned more in a few sentences now than in that vid

[twin monolith]

rtx cards expensive but worth it (still depends)

[dim yoke]

What about windows color management settings? There is the advanced tab that has some "system default" options. Should we mess with those or they dont matter anymore?

[dim yoke]

Although I own a 5090, anything more than 1000€(5070Ti) is meh

a 5070 Super with 18GB of VRAM at ~600$ would be ideal for most people

[earnest skiff]

My God, this looks so ugly? I’ve been playing like this since yesterday lol because for some reason RenoDX didn’t work after the update, even though I downloaded the latest file. It only started working after I restarted my PC

I thought the area I'm in was just messed up

[knotty bobcat]

For sure, im so glad I switched back from AMD, I had a GTX card before that

[normal sleet]

I disagree, I find the added sharpness of both M and L to be extremely distracting in most games, especially in anything higher than performance

[warm osprey]

again, I'm not saying that it will bring a positive change

it is beyond me how DS2 still doesn't have a Repair Vehicle button in a garage

you still have to either store it or change color

[spare socket]

there should be a repair vehicle command

i think it's hold circle?

[rotund salmon]

yeah, if you park it on a loading bay there's a repair prompt

[warm spade]

In which game?

Or is it every game you play

[urban tapir]

Bro is just yapping at this point. Set priority as high ahh advice.

[normal sleet]

I've tried it in DS2 among others, and yes hightlights look brigher but I don't like how it oversharpen the overall image, creating more visible aliasing, which to me is more of a dealbreaker

[chrome heart]

Ok if you're just throwing shit at the wall with random claims, please do check the rules about sharing info you have no clue about. Because you sure as hell make it sound as if does anything, when we aren't even sure it even loads the dll or not at all.

[urban tapir]

No he's tested

[chrome heart]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-not-playing-hand-it-over-give-it-here-gif-4575914747970682174

Benchmarks

[hazy sand]

so fellas! hue both at 0 is the new norm for this?

[chrome heart]

Default is the default

[hazy sand]

yes but i think Mr musa said hue 0s might be new default

[cold cargo]

This is how dark I like my nights in this game

[rotund salmon]

[warm osprey]

"advice" lmao, I never advised to update directstorage libraries

the only thing I advised is against updating to preview releases

[warm osprey]

kek, thank you, weird that they didn't add it to the menu as well

[fringe harness]

can confirm that with 1.3 cutscenes have no stutters too

[stray hamlet]

sniper zoom is hilariously bad no matter what your dll is

[warm osprey]

you sound like someone who doesn't even understand what is a .dll and how it works, lol
I'm not sharing any info I have no clue about, I just mentioned my observations (that updating those DLLS can make things worse), without advising anything, feel free to ignore them

[warm osprey]

yeah, I think they boosted the chromatic aberration in scopes to mask this

[chrome heart]

Ok check my github linked on my discord profile

[stray hamlet]

oh i dont mean bad lod quality i mean the game screeching to a halt to load in new assets

[warm osprey]

interesting, haven't noticed that, I'd rather have it actually load assets than not doing anything lol

[stray hamlet]

maybe another case of me getting scammed on vram

[chrome heart]

Nixxes special sauce code will just hammer the PCI-E bus if you run out of vram, which nixxes games easily do.

Causing mad stutter and slowdown

[stray hamlet]

i can watch my system ram just fill up all 32gb when i spam the sniper zoom

[warm osprey]

wow, that's really bad 😭

how do Nixxes even mess things up so much

I just tried doing that and my RAM and VRAM usage stays the same, quite weird how they manage to make it break only on some systems

[stray hamlet]

i have a 12gb card so if you have more it probably doesnt need to page out as much

foolish me only spending $800 instead of $1200 at the time

[warm osprey]

yeah, I'm not paging anything, I noticed VRAM can go up to almost 16gb but not more

and RAM to about 22 gigs

(with other background stuff open)

[stray hamlet]

turning off frame gen and setting textures to high makes scoping smooth, ugh

so uhhh mystery solved on my end

[warm osprey]

basically, exceeding VRAM capacity is really bugged in this port

[stray hamlet]

slow camera panning is still noticeably jittery so this didnt help with that 😭

[urban tapir]

You didn't give 2 kidneys to Nvidia. Unstable frametimes for you

[signal pine]

im on 21-22gb vram usage average on a 5090

at 5120x2160

which makes me think this game at that res only run without bottlenecks on a 5090 and 4090

maxed out, at least

need to try on my wife pc she has my old 4090

[glass sage]

That was an issue on PS5 as well

[covert hawk]

wow even on ps5? bruh moment

thats impressively bad

[glass sage]

there's a camera stutter that has nothing to do with your framerate

They said they patched it but apparently it made it's way to PC because I'm noticing it as well.

Also rBar is off by default, anyone try turning it on?

[unkempt jacinth]

dc1 had a camera stutter issue at high framerates

[glass sage]

On PC too?

been so long since I played

[fluid glade]

I turned it on but I don't see any difference

[unkempt jacinth]

yeah

[glass sage]

Boo, one could hope

[fluid glade]

yea Lyall had a fix for DS1

for the camera panning issue

[glass sage]

Lyall coming through here at least with a FOV fix

[unkempt jacinth]

it's always best to leave rbar at the defaults

[glass sage]

yeah it made it worse for me, just checked

a few stutters in the first ten seconds of driving.

[warm osprey]

daym, seems like ultrawide 4K takes a lot more than one might think, compared to regular 4K

[signal pine]

yea...

[warm osprey]

maximum recorded value I have after a long playing session is exactly 16 gigs

[lone sinew]

Either the patch or updating DirectStorage fixed the camera pan stutters, but the game still lurches/hitches when traversing fast on a bike

[rotund salmon]

the spotlight hitting this orange vehicle paint in the menu looks so much nicer with Reno

vanilla (BFF) / Reno

[lime lynx]

I just started playing this game and i noticed that on my rtx 4090 for some reason LOD, textures are lower than on my base ps5, any idea how to fix that?

[stray hamlet]

forcing 16x af though nvcp helps a little, the ingame setting ignores a lot of textures though i cant tell if it has adverse effects yet

Probably want to leave lod bias unclamped

[lime lynx]

But it's not just textures it looks like distant terrain has less polygons overall

[stray hamlet]

ah i wouldnt know since i skipped the console version

[lime lynx]

It looks like geometry matches base PS5 performance preset, but it's a bit hard to tell because of way lower resolution, but if you switch to quality 30fps preset, then it already has more detail than PC

[covert hawk]

use nvidia profile inspector to force the mip bias

[lime lynx]

I got this game on PS5, but i was planning to start playing it after i get PS5 PRO, but then i noticed news about PC version and it looks like nixxes made some weird choices here 😄

[covert hawk]

not a major change but seems to help

i think nixxes forgot to change mips for different upscaling levels

[stray hamlet]

That alone does nothing without setting transparency super sampling to replay_mode_all

Why? I have no fucking idea

-2 bias is the recommended value for 50% scale though if you try that

[covert hawk]

im using the newest nvpi revamped and 1.5 is recommended for perf on that

can try that too tho

[stray hamlet]

Whatever they're pulling that value from is wrong, can confirm by checking the dlss docs

Sounds like hybreds fork so not a big surprise

[covert hawk]

damn

well ty for the info

it is

the fork

[stray hamlet]

Its not a huge difference honestly

[thin abyss]

Some of the boss fights on To The Wilder are insane

Way too hard

[stray hamlet]

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=log2(render+X+resolution+%2F+native+X+resolution)+-+1 that's the formula from the dlss sdk, fairly simple

It always starts at -1 at 100% scale though there is an additional epsilon that devs have control over iirc

And they can also control bias per texture which we can't really do with tweaks like this

Forcing it this way did break certain textures in death stranding 1 so I didn't really bother with it here so far

[covert hawk]

holy fuck

enabling transparency aa just made reflections look wayyyyy better on my end

[covert hawk]

ily

Shocked that isn't on by default

[velvet trench]

transparency aa also improves the blocky fog in cyberpunk when upscaling, just found out about that recently. i thought that setting didn't do anything in modern games, but I guess it does

[covert hawk]

why the hell is it disabled at a driver level by Nvidia???

Like wtf?

Is this an ai-making-drivers mistake?

I used to enable it all the time when games offered it as an in game setting, not sure why they would block it

Never seemed to cost too much perf

I remember it being a thing on older cod games

[pale delta]

Wait, what is this setting? :O. Does it cost anything nowdays?

Second one here, right?

Should I enable it for other games? Is there any situation it matters that much?

[covert hawk]

that is where it is yes

im enabling it globally

my settings will look slightly different because im on the nvpi fork thats a bit more up to date

[pale delta]

Alright, thanks a lot :))

[stray hamlet]

the only purpose of this is to make lod bias overrides work

again i have no idea why the lod bias flags on their own do nothing

can test this by setting bias to a value like +4 and seeing what it does with and without the transparency supersampling flag

if the game looks like it forgot to load any textures in then it worked

dont want to clamp bias either, that just forces the value to 0 (which is what you want if dlss isnt part of the picture)

[raven gulch]

yeah, the game isn't even using direct storage lol, they are probably just default dlls nixxes put in every game folder

[late aspen]

ahahahahahha

[warm spade]

💀

[thin abyss]

😭

Shitttt

[short charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tom-delonge-blink182-1

[pine crag]

If you add the current direct storage files in does the game use it then?

I couldn't figure out how to download the 1.3 versions.

[short charm]

Here

[twin monolith]

im blind where in screenshot is the indicator if the game uses directstorage?

[pine crag]

Not sure what to do with that once I download it.

[waxen horizon]

Ffs kept switching between different protons, reinstalling and whatnot due to hanging near the end of opening cutscene on Linux, turns out it was frigging Reshade.

Hope it stays fine afterwards.

Apparently not...

Oh well, native HDR it is...

Frigging reshade.

[covert hawk]

well this is interesting

i had my windows power plan set to balanced because of some core parking stuff i saw related to my x3d chip

i changed my windows power plan just to see if that would do anything

i noticed process lasso added a new mode called high performance

i switched to that and literally all stutter in death stranding 2 is completely gone

not slightly alleviated

gone

traversal,cutscene,camera movements

gone

if someone else has the stuttering and also has process lasso and that power plan lmk if it does anything for you

this is way more impactful than every other tweak ive tried

completely solved

[split cosmos]

wat 3d chip?

[covert hawk]

9950x3d

i already had the game set to the cache cores too

so this power plan is smth different/additional

[glass sage]

Everyone recommends to use balanced but I swear it is way worse on balanced than higih

[split cosmos]

im assuming u also have that bios setting on?

[glass sage]

for x3d chips specifically

[covert hawk]

yeah thats what i saw too

this isnt high though

its specifically from process lasso

[glass sage]

i know

I've used that too

either way I swear by high performance over balanced

[covert hawk]

nice

[glass sage]

I personally see improvements, don't know why

[covert hawk]

yeah well it just solved every problem i had with the game so

[glass sage]

nice

[covert hawk]

i DEFINITELY agree

[split cosmos]

i personally thought they performed the same, i wonder if it has to do something else within windows

[covert hawk]

must be

[split cosmos]

y'all on the recent versions of 11?

[glass sage]

Everyone suggests balanced to save power and that the x3d chips perform best on balanced, but every time i set it to balanced I start stuttering.

[glass sage]

Yes

[covert hawk]

game changer

and yeah

most recent

[split cosmos]

thats so weird

[covert hawk]

all up to date chipset and bios too