PRAGMATA

[fallow wasp]

Both are easy tbh

[urban creek]

i get dizzy when i set it that wide ^^

[frank jetty]

on this, if we don't change anything else, it uses from the game settings right? here we only need the radiance cache? and what does radiance cache helps?

[steep trench]

when u get used to it u feel like 16:9 becomes 4:3

[arctic glen]

yeah its all game settings by default, radiance cache is about 10% fps boost

[urban creek]

i can only imagine, here going from 21:9 down to 16:9 feels already wierd

[elder pecan]

Apparently pragmatas pt is better than re9s

[urban creek]

newer tech afaik

[elder pecan]

It uses SER

[rain girder]

Not seeing anything related to Liliums RCAS in the first tab or the add ons tab. Is there somewhere I need to download and add it for it to work?

[lethal flame]

4000 nits peak brightness just looks… insane… But my phone can capture like 1500 nits I believe lol

[glass shard]

Lilium's HDR Shaders when installing Reshade in a game. Just choose install Reshade & effects again for Pragmata then scroll a bit down and you will find it.

[hard blaze]

Tb400 or peak 1000 for this game ?

[latent escarp]

Guys, how much VRAM does Pragmata eat in 4K DLLS Quality, maxed out settings, path tracing on, frame gen x2?

[topaz timber]

what are you guys using to force preset E? injector?

[glass shard]

Profile inspector

[topaz timber]

Do you guys recommend to enable RCAS?

[manic jacinth]

HOOOOOLY this looks insane

[steep trench]

totally preference

[latent escarp]

What TV do you own?

[topaz timber]

gotcha! native sharpness is not bothering me

[manic jacinth]

Probably Samsung s95F

With the mod

[lethal flame]

Correct

[manic jacinth]

Good stuff

[urban creek]

Really happy how it looks and runs , reflections are really on another level here. Thanks again to all involved

[topaz timber]

the overall picture brightens gets dimmer with 4000 mod thats why i just keep it to 2300 but if you a highlight boy it does look insane

specially if you keep all games at 203

you using akg or jk82 settings?

[lethal flame]

Got it calibrated to track eotf pq and max color accuracy after the mod 😊

Took three sessions as even the pro rarely tunes in game mode lol

AKG settings coz jk doesn’t have 4000 nits

[topaz timber]

me too! those settings are wild

[vernal vault]

the game looks a bit blurry and theres noise in the shadows?

in path tracing

[glass shard]

Undoable on a 16gb gpu for sure. Closer to 17-18gb vram

[lethal flame]

I am gonna try DLAA

[urban creek]

I'd think so, dlss q uwqhd max settings and path tracing gets me around 15GB

[lethal flame]

Anyone else finds on 5090 no matter how you tweak voltage curve you rarely get as stable and high core clock than just upping the core clock?

[latent escarp]

I see thanks, i played fine resident requiem with these settings on a 4080 Super, just lowered shadows from ultra to high

Pragmata eats more it seems

I thought the new driver will get vram usage lower

[latent escarp]

Thats with frame gen on?

[toxic badge]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pragmata-performance-benchmark/9.html

[steep trench]

why mine only 12-13GB🤓

[dusty ledge]

It might be allocating more than needed but just pulling out of my ass

[gaunt depot]

How dose it pull 800w? My 5090 pulls around 600w

[urban creek]

yes, fg 3x , nets me 100-130 fps in the second more demanding open area

[manic jacinth]

Capcom does this a lot yeah

[frail glen]

which setting can I lower to get more fps with path tracing? I use a 5070ti at 4k

[slow sparrow]

ANTI are you using the radiant cache?

[dusty ledge]

I doubt anything other than more aggresive upscaling is gonna help

[frail glen]

sounds like crimson desert again have to use 3x fg 🙁

[frail glen]

already on performance so shit

[urban creek]

Yes i do Locobert . Picture is second area but nothing really in it as a spoiler.

[deep knot]

Playing on my host PC. Yeah like 99% sure you're right

[urban creek]

3x runs and feels even better compared to CD with fg 2x imo but i play on controller . frametime graph is pretty smooth without hiccups

[frail glen]

Ill give it a try I also use controller with motion aim. The open area drops a lot with 2x already. Also activated that special limiter thing in relimiter for path tracing

[urban creek]

this is black magic

my base fps went down ~5fps going into that area and fighting, i do not use relimiter here, have my fps capped in rivatuner to 138 on my 144 hz display.

[frail glen]

problem is Im on a 120hz TV so I can only go up to 115fps

[latent escarp]

thanks

[frail glen]

did you try dynamic FG? might be worth for this game idk

[urban creek]

not dfg yet but i can also say from my own feels that even fg 4x operating from 35 to low 40s is exceptionally good playable, delay is around ~55ms which feels ok. that way i'm hitting my 138 fps cap

[frail glen]

interesting I will just do 3x then and call it a day

[urban creek]

never thought that i might be using fg 4x in a game

still baffles me

[frail glen]

no artifacts?

[eternal nacelle]

So is this game worth using HDR on with the mod?

[urban creek]

not that i would say it matters, CD is worse in that comparison imo

[frail glen]

true cd is pretty bad

[unreal slate]

so the reframework tweak, radiance cache + path trace bounced to 5?

btw did someone check which preset of RR does the game use

i just got on trying to setup stuff

[dusty ledge]

I think it was D

[eternal nacelle]

Wait sorry, just getting here today. There's tweaks for path tracing? Does it help with performance?

[urban creek]

there is a bit blur, sure but it doesn't distract me as much as cd does, you have to try it for yourself, i can make out no visual difference regarding blur or artifacts from fg 3x to fg 4x

[unreal slate]

in reframework theres radiance cache and path tracing bounces I just saw its recommended to turn on the cache and set bounces to 5 xD

[finite walrus]

Yeah I've used it for a couple of hours with no issues

[unreal slate]

did you guys update dlss stuff to 310.6? I see its 310.3 by default

[urban creek]

yes, it was posted a few mins ago ... #1475553827255222486 message

[urban creek]

i did, yes

[unreal slate]

ye I just hopped on 10 15 min ago xd

[urban creek]

Capcom cooked, i feel 10 years younger playing it

[unreal slate]

Did someone test prest D vs E for RR? xd

I know E had issues in re9

[blissful merlin]

jealous qd-oled monitor noises

[arctic glen]

To me D was plain unusable

too much boiling

[unreal slate]

yep just swapped to E

[gilded acorn]

The game just gives off good and cozy vibes

[quaint elbow]

are you pushing saturation up or is the game just kinda cooked

[arctic glen]

It kind of feels nostalgic for some reason

like, an older style of game maybe idk

[steep trench]

couldnt tell the difference between 3 or 5 bounces

[arctic glen]

its pretty small

[urban creek]

i have it upped to 60, yes.

[small umbra]

damn i just started playing and the game looks stunning

[unreal slate]

for this game do I set manually my peak 1% window brightness or leave it at what I calibrated in windows? Since Im using apl stablize high in my monitor to get more brightness(windows reads the default edid)

[glass shard]

Reno usually defaults to your windows hdr calibration profile peak nits, so stick with that I'd say

[subtle steeple]

i like how this game runs my gpu fans on 2200rpm

[steep trench]

might just stick with 3 for that extra 1 fps

[slow sparrow]

hey

I get a 504 error from github trying to access the reframework page, anywhere else I can DL it?

[unreal slate]

ye ik but for my monitor i use trueblack 500 + I set apl stabilize to high to get around 1400-1500 peaks in 1-2% windows, idk if reno reads that or is that just a in display thing

[glass shard]

Search reframework nightly. Should be the first result

[slow sparrow]

yeah 504 bad gateway

[glass shard]

Seems to be down

[slow sparrow]

https://github.com/praydog/reframework-nightly/releases oh its this link that was dead

[urban creek]

you only need that file

[slow sparrow]

thank you my personal trojan horse

[urban creek]

scan it beforehand

[slow sparrow]

no, if something happens its your fault bro

[glass shard]

Not knowledgeable enough to say for sure. I would stick with 500 peak but maybe I'm in the wrong

[slow sparrow]

yippe!

[steep trench]

tick both

[slow sparrow]

yeah just did

ty

5070 at 1080p is burning

kinda funny

[urban creek]

i run 3440x1440 max with path tracing at 35-40 base fps and have framegen 3x slapped onto it

you should go up to 1440p

[slow sparrow]

saferoom I have like 140-160 fps with X2 framegen

base without like 90-100

DLSSQ

[urban creek]

with pt ?

[slow sparrow]

yup

[rustic sail]

I'm surprised my 5070 pushes 5120x1440 without actually dying.

[urban creek]

cool

[slow sparrow]

but 1080p lol

[unreal slate]

when does the game get demanding?

i mean im sure these starting minutes are asy

easy

to run

[rustic sail]

The city seemed heaviest overall for where I am.

[unreal slate]

ill see

[urban creek]

second area is where it dips

[slow sparrow]

https://youtu.be/7VIVA7czpDY?si=vwKglnLs8j4psrOd&t=373 this area?

[urban creek]

exactly, yes

[slow sparrow]

@unreal slate

[steep trench]

fk me, prepare for 10 base fps for me then

[unreal slate]

im on a 5080 overclocked

xD

[urban creek]

i could tell by how high your wattage is ^^

[slow sparrow]

its the area when the performance dips

[unreal slate]

ahhh

kk

[urban creek]

for me it was only ~5fps lower surprisingly

[unreal slate]

i was trying dlaa with fg xD

[urban creek]

and ?

[unreal slate]

still in tutorial so 150 i think is too highj

[urban creek]

compared to dlss quality i get around 15-20 fps less with dlaa

so in the mid 10's ^^

[slow sparrow]

I lose 25 fps

my vrams crying for help

[urban creek]

any stutters ?

[slow sparrow]

none

[unreal slate]

i go from 54ish dlaa to 90 with quality xD

[urban creek]

i only have it traversing to a new area like daniel showed

[slow sparrow]

if yes I could reduce max texture 3gb to high 2gb

[urban creek]

like a microstutter

[slow sparrow]

ngl dlss 4.5 is just so good

[rain girder]

reflections the game

[slow sparrow]

that I can even use balance at 1080p lol

[urban creek]

you have a 1080p display ?

[slow sparrow]

ye

[urban creek]

27" ?

[slow sparrow]

yup

[urban creek]

that's perfect

[stray oxide]

youre using DLSS 4.0 Ray recon with path tracing btw

[slow sparrow]

oh yeah I forgot

[stray oxide]

i love that Kal finally added manually swappable DLSS Presets for RR in real time in SK

SR had it forever

[rain girder]

whjat is sk and sr

[eternal nacelle]

The fact I can use max settings, 3440x1440 with DLSS Quality, Framegen X2, Path Tracing and still net like 60FPS as a base FPS prior to FG is including the radiance cache tweak and RenoDX

Can't wait until my 39" 5K2K monitor gets here hopefully this weekend, but probably monday

[frail glen]

you will lose a shit ton of fps though

[blissful merlin]

Never really messed with the RT tweaks in reframework before, you all have pure path tracing ticked?

[slow sparrow]

@urban creek over 60 without FG

6 fps more with radiant cache turned on

120 with 2X FG

DLSSQ

[spiral palm]

Hm. TPU is showing 18gb of VRAM usage fully maxed out.. but my 5090 is only using around 14gb.. maybe just because its the starting area?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pragmata-performance-benchmark/9.html

[unreal slate]

probably idk xD

[tame quail]

Any reason why we can't use UI correction/controls with vanilla tonemapper?

[unreal slate]

how is RR implemented so much better here I can easily use quality and cant notice much difference if at all when playing

[eternal nacelle]

Yeah and I'll use DLSS Performance with Preset M or Ultra Performance and Preset L and gain a huge chunk back. That or set a custom res if I need to plenty of options with the display. I've tested already with a DSR res, and it's pretty stable with DLSS scaling

[slow sparrow]

Reflection: The Game

[spiral palm]

Reno overrides in game HDR settings yeah? So just leave them as is?

[native orbit]

just tried D again, do not recommend, this is a preset E game imo

[unreal slate]

moist floors

[native orbit]

maybe its because i have to use performance but i see lots of issues

although dont get me wrong this game looks amazing generally

[unreal slate]

is it placebo that I find fg x3 playable or?

i dont see artifacts

[native orbit]

just wish NVIDIA could update RR and combine the strengths of D and E

[unreal slate]

nor do i feel latency(controller)

[native orbit]

I see artifacts at 2x but its a pretty good game for FG I would say

[ivory stirrup]

How do I do that?

[unreal slate]

ill try 3x for a bit till i get out of tutorial

[slow sparrow]

2nd lvl you go to the area I sent you the video of

[unreal slate]

u install reframework(copy dinput file), put the script in autorun in reframework folder which will auto generate after 1st launch

[ivory stirrup]

Because of boiling? Anything else?

[ivory stirrup]

Ok thx I should be able to figure it from here ig

[unreal slate]

here are some trojans if you want

[ivory stirrup]

And do we need to update our drivers for this or are older drivers ok?

[shut dome]

What’s dinout for

[slow sparrow]

dinout?

[spiral palm]

Reno overrides the in game HDR settings, correct?

[subtle steeple]

btw can you chance the draw distance of light reflection or whatever it called in reframework? some lights don't have reflection when moving slightly behind from original place @arctic glen

[arctic glen]

unsure, there are probably some culling settings

there is also a setting to increase shadow resolution, but it costs a lot of VRAM

[midnight stag]

as in, the default settings that come with REF? I'm not sure it makes sense to touch those at all

[meager walrus]

They didn't test it on the game ready drivers

[native orbit]

noisy reflections mostly

[shut dome]

What does the dinput8 file do

[arctic glen]

reframework

[tight hinge]

RR preset D or E?

[shut dome]

This area is. Breathtaking holy shit

[shut dome]

Oh I’m good then lol thanks

[native orbit]

E

[cyan swift]

what renodx settings are you using?

[native orbit]

saturation +120

[midnight stag]

how's the actual gameplay loop so far?

[native orbit]

Fun. It sounds and looks boring but is kinda fun

Just a shame they didnt ship a hard mode at least for first playthrough

[tight hinge]

Yeah think I agree. The slight smear is better than the boiling.

[cyan swift]

for me increasing the saturation makes the game peak brightness go beyond the peak I set on the configuration

[native orbit]

Yeah it does smear but most people here seem to be concluding its the lesser evil

I tried D twice but way too much boiling

[shut dome]

preset e the way to go

@cyan swift

[native orbit]

I also have FG preset B set but no idea if it does anything, might be placebo, cant tell

[cyan swift]

does your peak brightness stays at 1512?

[shut dome]

my set does 1400 so yeah adjust for your nits

so I always do a tiny bit over my sets max nits

This area looks so gooooood

I think I’m even more impressed with this than RE9

I somehow am loving it even more than the demo and I enjoyed that a ton

im fucking scared to go to nexus mods

i just want a dualsense icon mod

[frosty cargo]

hey guys..anyone knows why the game crashes or becomes unresponsive after the initial loading screen? i'm using latest reshade and REF nightly with renodx..the game works fine if i remove reshade+REF+ renodx

[obsidian axle]

@arctic glen bro during the opening sequence I can spot some low quality textures, is that normal?

[frank jetty]

icon?

You can select type b (i think) on controller (pc)

[shut dome]

yeah since it defaults to xbox

oh shit let me check

[frank jetty]

It also allows to turn on adaptive trigger once you select playstation type

[shut dome]

boom done thank you

[frank jetty]

and the gyro aim

[shut dome]

hrmmm done see adaptive triggers

plugged in only maybe?

[frank jetty]

I got it plugged in

[shut dome]

ah

gyro is there tho

pragmata hasnt been added to nexus yet

just needed that anyways, its in game

[rustic sail]

Wireless works, but I use DSX and it translates it, for adaptive.

[shut dome]

ohhhhhhh

I need to do this

10 steam app what

[urban creek]

hacking adds a nice little depth to it when you unlock more slots and stuff to combine . i also like it, refreshing and oldschool at the same time

[tame quail]

Looks like renodx is doing the gamma correction whenever I like it or not lol
SDR sRGB / Vanilla HDR / Vanilla HDR with renodx

[shut dome]

Yeah it’s very innovative. New IP too. Super happy with it

[native orbit]

try this? it defaults to 1080p. i assumed it was a pre-render

[obsidian axle]

I have all maxxed. I think in this game LOD bias could be changed

[fallow summit]

Hey guys ! i have a bug every chest and item are double !

[tight hinge]

Speaking to Diana in the Cradle looks super messed up

Loads of ghosting or blur

Preset E thing?

[carmine zealot]

Is the addon working for you guys with the latest REF nightly build? It's crashing for me every time unfortunately.

[frosty cargo]

same here

[urban creek]

for me and others it does run , yes . #1475553827255222486 message

[ivory stirrup]

instructions say dont put in anything else than dinput dll inside how do i get the generation tool?

[tight hinge]

Daft question but should you clear shaders when changing RR preset? Feel like I'm seeing more stutter since moving to E

Maybe it was always there

Shouldn't be necessary should it?

[onyx scaffold]

Hm...even upping pt bounces to 16 doesn't seem to have any effect, do I need to restart the game?

Which section of the tweaks should I use if I want to add bounces and turn pt to the max?

Radiance cache only seems to get me more performance

[ivory stirrup]

I don't undersatand how to use this reframework at all, is there a tutorial?

[steep trench]

just use this https://github.com/RankFTW/RHI

[urban creek]

press "insert" to open it up ingame after copying it into the reframework autorun folder https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1475553827255222486/1475553827255222486

[onyx scaffold]

I did get that, but is there any way of knowing which settings have an effect and which don't? Also the reset doesn't seem to work, the only settings that seem to do anything for me are radiance cache and setting path tracing mode, but if I choose pure pt the picture gets messed up, so I thought turning on RR and maxing out bounces should fix that, but doesn't seem to. Only a reset and fully restarting the game will fix it, but after doing that the hair doesn't seem to be lit correctly anymore, though I'm not sure about the last one

[urban creek]

that i don't know, sorry . i only switched radiance caching on with both boxes and upped the path tracing ray count from 3 to 5 . i can't tell if the other options work or not.

[onyx scaffold]

In which section? There are so many settings that are called bounces xD

[urban creek]

in path tracing

[onyx scaffold]

Also radiance caching only seemed to improve performance, can't say if it had an impact on visuals.

[onyx scaffold]

There are multiple even there xD
But I think you mean the one below radiance caching

[urban creek]

very subtle change but if you set it to 1 and go up to 5 you can spot the difference it makes and yes that radiance cache should give ~10% performance boost

[urban creek]

no, that is the ray tracing bounce, you want the ray count from path tracing upped to 5 from 3

[onyx scaffold]

And did you have to restart the game?

[arctic glen]

yeah I made this script for messing around with as many options as possible

but only recommend changing PT bounces and rediance cache on/off

[onyx scaffold]

Thank you for your work, but PT bounces in which section exactly? The setting exists so many times in the menu

[arctic glen]

PT

[onyx scaffold]

I'll check again, but seemed to me that there was bounces in every sub section of PT

[arctic glen]

its like the first setting under PT

[lime dirge]

what are downsides to using radiance cache?

[arctic glen]

unknown rn unless someone finds a downside

caused some problems in RE9

so far in this game either improves things or is neutral

[lime dirge]

what voice language are you guys playing?

[urban creek]

@shut dome You need to watch the new Metro Exodus 2039 trailer mate. My jaw dropped ...

[urban creek]

full english without subtitles but i plan to do a run with japanese vo

[shut dome]

I saw! It looks so good

Can’t believe it’s so soon too

[urban creek]

the world is slowly healing

[rigid glen]

i am getting crashing in the second level with radiance cache turned on

its right when you walk into the office space checkpoint

[ivory stirrup]

ok, but the readme says only put in dinput dll?

[urban creek]

that script from @arctic glen is a reframework addon that you need to put in the autorun folder of reframework #1475553827255222486 message

you can use renodx only by following the instructions in the readme if you don't want the other stuff

[onyx scaffold]

What seems weird to me is that ray count doesn't have any impact on performance, I maxed it out to 16, could it be that the setting doesn't do anything?

[urban creek]

i see about 5-6 fps decrease when going to 16 but haven't tested long enough

[unreal slate]

put in dinput, launch the game

it will generate a folder called reframework with autorun folder inside it

there place the .lua script i sent

not by me

just sent those 2 combined

then load the game again and on the bottom youll see the ui just check it

[wintry panther]

anything i have to keep in mind when adding this mod for this game?

[onyx scaffold]

Ok I take it back xD
Just got to the first more open area, 30 FPS difference

[urban creek]

xD

but 15-20 fps loss in that area is normal, it is the highest demanding so far

ymmv

[prisma quest]

does that addon help normal RT too? i have an amd gpu so no path tracing for me

[ivory stirrup]

can I delete the other files?

[urban creek]

which other files did you copy ? @ivory stirrup you only need the dinput8.dll from the reframework zip file

[prisma quest]

is there somewhere to download the LUA officially tho or only here?

[urban creek]

you have to ask @arctic glen

it's his

[ivory stirrup]

so do we need any of this or not?

[urban creek]

no, nothing from there

only dinput8.dll

[ivory stirrup]

ok so delete all but leave the pragmata.lua? how do i make the tool autorun and configure then?

[urban creek]

start it once and close the game, copy the lua in the reframework autorun folder and restart game

press insert ingame

[arctic glen]

I could make a simple lua script with only like 4 settings

[ivory stirrup]

oh its the dll that does this i missed this part ok got it now

[prisma quest]

not needed, i trust you anyway so i'll DL it from here its fine. but i just dnt know if i need it if i cant to PT

[urban creek]

you haven't tested any of the other stuff, don't you ?

[swift bramble]

Should I use DLSS4.5 with standard ray tracing or does that require RR too?

[ivory stirrup]

what exactly do the posted tweaks do btw?

[prisma quest]

was reading earlier convo and are the rt improvements rlly just for PT or will it help normal RT for me too

cuz i cant to PT

[arctic glen]

not much, most of it doesnt impact PT, a lot of things change RT

[ivory stirrup]

RR is 4.0 only

[urban creek]

when you turn on path tracing / rr it will revert back to dlss 4.0

no rr for amd cards afaik

[swift bramble]

Ah so RR is PT only? I have a 4080 so I'm gonna settle for RT instead of PT lol

[arctic glen]

if someone spent time fiddling with RT settings it could be improved a lot, but generally PT runs so well not many people will use RT, at least not many here

[urban creek]

amd users will i guess

[swift bramble]

I could only get 40fps with PT earlier

[prisma quest]

aka me, no PT for me

[urban creek]

you can run pathtracing in this game with a 5060Ti in 1080p with fg 2x

[shut dome]

Bleh just crashed on me after a difficult fight. Fuck

[wintry panther]

yo this broke my game

keeps crashing on startup

[umbral nebula]

did you install reframework

[urban creek]

out of curiosity, steam version or hv version ?

[feral kindle]

That's pretty good

[wintry panther]

steam version

[urban creek]

that's impressive, you have base fps between 50-60

dlss perf of course

[urban creek]

any other stuff installed ?

[prisma quest]

so is the radiance cache setting in the LUA needed if we arent using PT and just normal RT or not?

[urban creek]

since it's under path tracing options i suppose not @prisma quest

but there is stuff for ray tracing only but it's not tested , so feel free to experiment if you like

[wintry panther]

mightve been my bad with the crash i suppose i didnt install it correctly, i dont think i installed reframework. i thought the instruction said only input the dll from the website

[prisma quest]

sorry i didnt even realize it was my fault

and hmm yeah might have to see what RT tweaks are there

[arctic glen]

there are a lot of settings that can improve RT

base RE9 RT was pretty weak

IIRC a big one was secondary diffuse bounce

[prisma quest]

wonder if RT noise can be reduced?

[arctic glen]

probably

[prisma quest]

i remember it was bad in the demo

and bc i cant us RR on amd gpu with normal rt and we get no pt, no way to do it otherwise

[swift bramble]

I just tried RT on preset M, there's a lot of noise yeah

[lime dirge]

hdr calibration screen settings don't change anything if you use renodx right?

[swift bramble]

But pure raster looks kinda bland

[prisma quest]

right, theyre overrided

[arctic glen]

well if you want to fiddle with a bunch of RT settings and see if anything helps I exposed pretty much everything I could find in that script

[prisma quest]

gotcha

[lime dirge]

could changing bounces to higher count make blacks more elevated in some scenes?

[swift bramble]

Nvidia just needs to update RR already man

Forget about the slop filter and get to work on what really matters

[arctic glen]

RR preset E is the only preset for this game tbh

D is not good here

[urban creek]

what is default ? d ?

[arctic glen]

yeah

[urban creek]

aight, will switch to it,ty , nvm, had it forced globally and forgot .

[prisma quest]

script doesnt change anything by default right?

[arctic glen]

no

[arctic glen]

I don't believe global RR preset works correctly unless it was fixed

must set per game without global override

[urban creek]

sr preset doesn't matter then

have it on l

done

[onyx scaffold]

So I changed a few more things in REFramework in the end, I also set environment scale to 100 and tile size to 1, though this in combo with bounces 16 has a huge performance impact, getting 40-50 fps on a 5090 using dlss balanced in 4k

[urban creek]

slap framegen on top

very playable

40-50 base fps is pretty good in this game , frametime graph is buttery smooth

[nova dagger]

is the game not showing up in nvidia app for yall either? What was the point of the game ready driver?

[urban creek]

I instantly notice less blur around dianas hair when i talk to her in the safe room. Seems it didn*t applied when set globally only. Now with a saved preset it does seem to change, thx, i would have left it on globally and forgot about it.

[arctic glen]

a more digestible script, note that radiance cache may not be compatible with all locations

and shadow resolution may cost 2+ GB VRAM

[modest stirrup]

wdym by more digestible?

[midnight stream]

@shut domeMr Spider Man do you use anything apart from radiance cache for the reframework? impossibly good screenshots, kudos

[frosty gust]

oh that applypretonemapcurve part isn't resetting with the off setting, need to change that

[midnight stream]

Do you good people recommend using any other settings apart from radcache for a 5090 rig?

Is RestirGI usable or broken?

[stray oxide]

i think lazorr said turning up Ray Bounces to 5

[urban creek]

regarding visibility and orientation within the reframework addon menu

For anyone enjoying the combat i can recommend the shadertoggler and his minimal hud option toggle. Immerses way more and gives more visibility without compromising vital elements still being shown .
https://www.nexusmods.com/pragmata/mods/5

[short furnace]

getting a repeatable crash after activating the 4th beacon in the second area of the game. Happens on entering a door right after. Not sure who's the culprit, I'll try to remove some dlls

[urban creek]

that's a bummer, i have also 4 but no crash yet

[arctic glen]

not 100 settings exposed

[turbid shore]

I got that too, disabled reshade and reframework to get past, then got another crash at a different point (dunno if this one was reproducible) and had to disable again

[queen totem]

Even if you disable EOTF emulation?

Oh, I'm blind.

It is disabled, RIP.

@frosty gust is it hard coded to do 2.2 emulation?

[turbid shore]

I had radiance cache enabled btw if that narrows it down

[shut dome]

Oh same I think this is where I got it too

[short furnace]

tempted to just get rid of everything tbh, hdr doesn't seem so disastrous bar the gamma mismatch

[frosty gust]

nah some other settings were incorrect with preset off

[shut dome]

It could just be the game lol

It’s launch day

And we are probably further than most

[turbid shore]

Well it doesn't happen with reframework and stuff turned off so...

[short furnace]

it's probably reframework tbh

[turbid shore]

Yea

[shut dome]

Oh

Yeah then likey re framework

[turbid shore]

Kinda annoyed it's a long stretch with a big boss too and I did it like 4 times hoping it wouldn't crash that time 😭

[queen totem]

OIC, fixed now?

[frosty gust]

updated:

• Removed slight saturation decrease with ACES (Customized)
• Fixed Off preset not setting the proper settings to fully disable the mod's features

[short furnace]

ikr lol same, that's why I'm tempted to just go full vanilla, was enjoying the game too much up to that point

[queen totem]

hellllllll yeah

[midnight stream]

I get way more noise with radcache enabled. Talking to the robot behind hair its a mess with radcache on

[wanton remnant]

So to get the best experience playing with path tracing, I would need to override RR preset to preset E and up the ray bounces from 3 to 5 via REF?

Oh and the radiance cache thingy too ?

[shut dome]

So remove reframework to get around the crash?

How do you even uninstall it

[turbid shore]

I moved dinput8.dll and dxgi.dll temporarily to get past the crash

[shut dome]

Kk

[turbid shore]

That's reframework and reshade

[shut dome]

Will do that

[short furnace]

can confirm it's completely fine without reframework

[turbid shore]

It can happen again, and this game doesn't really have a good autosave

So I recommend waiting for another reframework build or just going vanilla

[shut dome]

yeah reframework can wait

[short furnace]

yeah I'm going vanilla, thanks for confirming mate

[queen totem]

Is it a certain section of the game that's crashing, and getting past that and enabling REF works fine again?

[short furnace]

yes

[turbid shore]

Yes, there's a specific save point room where you crash when you walk inside

[shut dome]

well we donnt know if it works fine after lol

dont think we want more crashes

[cunning urchin]

What is the best version of RenoDX so far?

[shut dome]

Crashes at launch despite removing both

Fuckkkk

At the health warning

[queen totem]

Try verifying the game files from Steam.

And then launch again.

[shut dome]

Hrmm it’s reshade

[turbid shore]

Thats what happens when either reshade or reframework is still there i think

[shut dome]

Tried one then the other only. And only worked when reshade was off

Yeah

[turbid shore]

Reshade needs reframework to work btw

That's why renodx requires it lol

[shut dome]

Ohhhhh

[turbid shore]

Or smth like that

[shut dome]

That’s right

[cunning urchin]

You are forgetting to use REFramework

[queen totem]

Gotcha, thank you. So, just do vanilla to get around that area, and once new save point is active, go back to REF + Reno.

Sounds like the play?

[shut dome]

Fuck it looks so much worse lol

Yeah I forgot re engine games need re framework for Reno to work

In the game now

[turbid shore]

Yeah but like I said, there's future areas that crash too, and the autosave will put you back at the shelter, so it's super inconvenient

Hang on I'll get a screenie of the first save point that crashes for devs or whatever

[queen totem]

Ahhh, shame.

How long into the game does this crash occur, btw?

How many hours, or % gameplay wise.

If you have any idea.

[cunning urchin]

I made the same mistake too—I put RenoDX in the game folder thinking it was REFramework. You probably did the same thing lol

[turbid shore]

Maybe like 2 - 3 hours in, it's the second area basically

[queen totem]

Alright, thank you.

[shut dome]

Did you add anything back? Lol

[turbid shore]

Nah I played a bit vanilla and stopped playing for now since it's bedtime, the reframework guy is usually very quick on updates so it's likely it'll be fixed anyway

This is the crashing save point

Oh lmao, I just did a bit of testing, so it still continues to consistently crash, I turned off radiance cache, and now it is NOT crashing

Do not use radiance cache

[short furnace]

after activating the 4th beacon basically, there's a door right after and it crashes as soon as you enter it

lazorr did tell us it may cause problems I guess

it's too bad cause you gain a lot of fps with it on lol

[shut dome]

@arctic glen you had a new file for it right? Maybe that one is better

[turbid shore]

It could easily be fixed I think, since it's super specific areas, but idk

I'm already using his new lua

The area worked when I went in with renodx + reframework but with pathtracing off, so I was like "wait a minute..." tried pathtracing with radiance cache off and then it worked

[native orbit]

has the crash conclusively been associated with the radiance caching or is it REFramework?

[turbid shore]

Uhh I don't know if it's the cache itself, but it definitely crashes consistently with the current lua script used to toggle it on

[native orbit]

That was the only thing i had enabled

[maiden needle]

purist

[cunning urchin]

What is the best version of RenoDX so far?

[stray oxide]

just use the latest. What do you mean best version

[swift bramble]

damn the noise for standard RT is really bad. why do they only let you use RR with path tracing?

[finite walrus]

the secret version

[cunning urchin]

ok

[turbid shore]

Quick clip showing it happen

[frosty gust]

So does the game work fine without radiance cache?

Or is that beacon 4 crash issue still present

[turbid shore]

Yes the whole renodx setup works completely fine up to where I've played without radiance cache

[short furnace]

can also confirm it doesn't crash with radiance off here

[native orbit]

i can also also confirm its just the radiance cache

[tranquil remnant]

bro i did the fight now 3 times lmao gonna try ur fix

nvm already had it off still crashed

[native orbit]

i fixed it by disabling the whole lua script, but I only had radiance caching enabled so i assume it was just that

[turbid shore]

I'm pretty sure it's radiance cache since toggling it on immediately lets it crash the game, if you try again with path tracing off it doesn't crash, so it's PT related

[cinder oyster]

RE9 crashed consistently in certain areas of the game with radiance cache on, it's probably just that

[tranquil remnant]

i removed the script and try again

[arctic glen]

rip

[cunning urchin]

For those who have an OLED TV for gaming, could you share the best settings for RenoDX and for an OLED TV on PC? I’ve tried several configurations, but none of them satisfied me 100%.

[shut dome]

gonna try then with no radiance cache for now

does anyone have the link to reframework git?

maybe they just updated it

[modest stirrup]

https://github.com/praydog/REFramework-nightly/releases/tag/nightly-01331-63dd83ead22bbab924b93bbd32e5be36d3a09a4d

[shut dome]

last update 15 hours ago

has a pragmata version

I updated to that one just in case

[fervent frigate]

how do you install this?

I tried to put it in reframework\autorun but I don't see it in game

[stray oxide]

check under "script generated ui"

should have a Pragmata tweaks menu there

[stray oxide]

oh

let me try i have the normal one, not the lite one

[fervent frigate]

wait nevermind I put it in the wrong directory by mistake

yea it works good

[slow sand]

yep can confirm 4th beacon crash right after

[fervent frigate]

I have an OLED monitor and default reno is almost always the way to go for me

[stray oxide]

hopefully someone will be able to remove the black bars in UW for some cutscenes

[plucky axle]

so if i disable path tracing i cant enable rr why?

[frank scaffold]

Both are required together in this game

[shut dome]

Does the path tracing radiance cache options do nothing?

I’m using that and no crashes so far

[cunning urchin]

how many nits do you use?

[fervent frigate]

it's a QD-OLED panel so, 1000

[iron shuttle]

Is this game better made than crimson desert is?

[eternal nacelle]

So is the radiance cache thing borked then for now?

2nd crash after the 4th beacon

Ah just toggle it off I guess?

[turbid shore]

I'm just playing with it off because it happens again at later locations and you will lose some progress every time by getting kicked back to the shelter, so it's really not worth the trouble

[fervent frigate]

of course, Capcom has be refining the RE engine for +15 years now. which game is better though is entirely up to personal preference

[tight hinge]

This is why I don't like messing with stuff like radiance cache. On balance, just not worth the hassle.

I've just gotten past that point. Game is super smooth so far

RR Preset E is definitely better than D in this game

I've switched RenoDX to defaults, back from purist, as purist was feeling a bit crushed in later areas

[shut dome]

I’m just curious tho about the path tracing radiance cache options

So far no crashes using that one

But it might not do anything lol

@arctic glen does it do anything?

[cinder oyster]

it only crashes in specific areas

[warped bane]

My re9 is crashing with the latest nightly dinput8 and everything else. Since this is on the same engine is the cause going to be the same. I dont see an option for radiance with re9.

[fervent frigate]

is D better in any game? I have set to E as global and forgot about it

[stray oxide]

im using E and ive been pretty happy with the visuals

although im still at the start of the game kinda

[tight hinge]

Global doesn't work properly does it?

But to answer your question - I heard many people say E was a bit busted in RE9 so I didn't bother trying it

But they might have been exaggerating, I'm not sure

Lazorr further up said applying the RR preset globally doesn't work. Somebody else tried it and confirmed that

[fervent frigate]

it used to not work before but as of v3.0.1.10, it works fine for me

[tight hinge]

So true overriding at game level and see what happens

Oh ok maybe fixed now then

[fervent frigate]

huh, RE9 is the game that made me research a lot about the RR presets and then I started using it everywhere, check this: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1rglfwt/use_preset_e_with_path_tracing_in_resident_evil/

[tight hinge]

Yeah I saw that too. Then on the ultra+ discord people were saying E was super ghosty/blurry in sections of the game

Meh, I dunno. I like your set and forget approach

Though globally forcing dynamic FG is not for me! 😅

[fervent frigate]

I play with a controller so I'm fine with the latency

[steep trench]

if one day we got transformer 2 RR, this game is def in replay list for me

[slow sparrow]

I entered a area and my game just crashed tf?

[heady karma]

E was definitely more ghosty but didn't seem any blurrier to me at 4k Quality at least, though RR in general was blurry in RE9

[tight hinge]

Turn off radiance cache

It's causing crashes

[slow sparrow]

ah thats what it is

F

[tight hinge]

Yeah it was a blurry play through.

Seems better here. Though maybe because I've gone with some punchy RCAS

As everybody says, a better RR model would be most welcome (though fuck AI in general. It's all I've spoken about at work today and it's so boring)

[heady karma]

seems like it won't release until rtx6000 series at this point, hopefully I'm wrong though

[slow sparrow]

maaaann I lost so much progress because of that radiance cache -..-

[tight hinge]

I never mess around with the RE Framework stuff

Not unless I've finished the game or don't really care about it anyway

Crashing is the worst

[storm ermine]

lazor

[slow sparrow]

+1, I crashed at the same area with Radiance Cache turned on

[fervent frigate]

hey you might want to restore the ray bounces value before progressing any further

[dapper schooner]

What is radiance cache? I’m so confused! Wondering if I should skip Reno for this one.

[stray oxide]

reno works just fine

if u use lazor's .lua mod for REFramework, there is a toggle called Radiance Cache

[plucky axle]

so at the moment activating this crash the game right?

[stray oxide]

apparently at some parts later on, havent experienced it myself yet but im not far

[fervent frigate]

at certain points in the story yes, and you'll lose a lot of progress as a result

[plucky axle]

ok but is going to be fixed ? and what are the settings other then cache that need to be activated

[fervent frigate]

lazor has to fix it first I think, and so far that's the only thing to change other than changing the RR preset to E

[heady karma]

radiance cache was never fixed in re9, it'd probably have to be toggled on/off dynamically depending on your location which is way outside of the scope for that script

[shut dome]

Using the path tracing radiance cache has resulted in no issues

At the terra dome now

[elder pecan]

How are we feeling about this game?

It looks good?

Plays good?

Should I get this or CD

[fervent frigate]

IMO this game, give CD some time and you'll get a much better game with so many patches and QoL mods

but play the demo first to see if you like the combat

[elder pecan]

I’ve played the demo of this game alr

It’s fun

[fervent frigate]

then yea get it, the full game is much better

[modest stirrup]

Holy shit this game, the difference between 4K DLSS Performance and Balanced is like a 100 Watts. This game sucks as much energy as an African country.

[steep trench]

same area same crashed LOL

gonna turn off that too lol

dang, free performance is not free 😭

[stray oxide]

im sitting at like 370 watts on DLSS Quality on 3440x1440

[frank jetty]

yeah, just lost some progress, removed the lua script altogether and will try again later

[stray oxide]

does this happen at the ||Mass production array|| or further down the line?

[urban creek]

same resolution , dlss q , max settings + pt , fg 3x

[pallid imp]

If radiance cache is implemented the same as in RE9, it's really should not be used alongside PT anyway, it's adding illumination on objects that should not receive any or not as much, thus killing the whole point of paying for PT to get accurate GI

[frank jetty]

||I don't remember exactly where, but its on the NY city of them, you open a tower on top and then another tower nearby with a lot of enemies even big head baby one, and then after I pass, try go through the door and crash||

[pallid imp]

They are not using it in both games for a good reason, it's flawed

[urban creek]

#1475553827255222486 message

[stray oxide]

damn, i got a 4090 tho, 2xFG im pretty much at 130-150 frames at all times with that

[frank jetty]

yes

[urban creek]

i have a base framerate of 40-50 , feels good, plays buttery smooth

[stray oxide]

dang aight, i just entered that part all the way at the beginning so i might just turn it off for now

[urban creek]

120 - 138 capped

[stray oxide]

yea i got about 70-80 rn depending on area ofc

[urban creek]

4090 is still a beefy card

[stray oxide]

yea i think its still a great card if found for a good price

[urban creek]

60-80 is the sweetspot for turning fg 2x on , you're set

[stray oxide]

ye the game feels good runs good looks good, and plays good too, pretty good game so far

i did find the visuals not as good in the demo since it didnt have PT, which made me not so sure if i wanted to buy it

[steep trench]

radiance cache on off performance difference is insane for me

[dry scaffold]

i used RHI but this pops out and i couldnt figure out what to do. any help?

[shut dome]

I’m using the path tracing radiance cache and not one crash and been playing awhile. Just left the terra dome

[deep knot]

Anyone find a way to get rid camera shake/head bob?

[plucky axle]

there's no sharpening in this game ? its just so blurry

[stray oxide]

i currently use lilium's rcas

[finite walrus]

press insert

[finite walrus]

i've about 4 hours with radiance cache on and no crash

[stray oxide]

u went into the same spot as the guy linked above?

[stray oxide]

this one i mean

[finite walrus]

oh nah, not yet
not far off there though i feel

[arctic glen]

yeah that specific spot crashes

[rain girder]

Sorry im late, I had turned on the extra path tracing bounces last night before going to bed. Is the bounces increased to 5 also causing crashes or just the radiance cache?

[arctic glen]

just radiance cache in that one spot so far

its just particularly annoying cause its after a big fight and right when you see save point lol

[slow sparrow]

Yeah I got yeeted after the fight lol

But games the game

Any other crashes with RC?

Im too scared to turn it on again 😂

[loud hatch]

Lilium's RCAS

[meager walrus]

So the meta is RR E Preset, DLSS Preset M?

[urban creek]

what a view ...

[stray oxide]

if u use PT, which forces RR on, ur dlss preset doesnt matter. but for RR i use E and its pretty good

[meager walrus]

Does it use some different upscaling?
Thought RR was only a denoiser?

[stray oxide]

it has its own upscaler

[fervent frigate]

is this the correct way of enabling radiance cache? I'm using PT

[meager walrus]

Does Radiance Cache even make a noticeable difference here?

[stray oxide]

idk visually, but lazor says it can or does improve performance?

i havent compared it tbh but check for yourself, but visually im not sure

[urban creek]

~10% performance boost ymmv

[steep trench]

extremely noticeable performance boost for me. in second area dlss quality with radiance cache on is smoother than dlss balanced with radiance cache off for me

[zinc ermine]

eh radiace cache is...increasing my FPS by 10%

wut

Ah right ok I see why

[steep trench]

tried to use dlss enabler for mfg but the ui looks bad have to go back to x2 fg only

[ivory stirrup]

Am I the only one that can't stand playing with FG on, but it seems to be the meta here?

Even if it's a "slower game" I can still notice the input delay and just irks me too much. Another thing I have concern about is ocasional frametime weirdness. Haven't tried here but it didn't feel good in CD I don't use it there

[stray oxide]

low base fps?

my baseis like 65-80 and then 2xfg and feels and looks good

also if it's fsr, it just sucks from my experience

[slow sparrow]

From 62 to 70 fps for example, but I got an awful crash and wont use it anymore

[slow sparrow]

FG in capcom games feel way better, just use it and you don't care about it anymore

Too much thinking and "feeling" kills your experience one way or another

[ivory stirrup]

My base fps are similar across most games too - if I use ultra perf (4k) I will get 70 fps median average

But then let's say I want to bump it to performance, I turn fg on but base fps will drop to... 55-65..? And doesn't feel good

[cinder token]

Does custom dlss percentages work in this game?

[ivory stirrup]

Will try. Actually didn't have time to play the game yet

[slow sparrow]

You could also use dlss swapper to get the latest FG version, it feels really good to me

[ivory stirrup]

Will do, and preset E

[slow sparrow]

You on mkb or controller?

[ivory stirrup]

But I'm on old drivers. Controller

Not sure if there's any special driver that was released for this?

[slow sparrow]

There was

I installed it without trying the previous one

But no issues on my end with the new driver

5070 / 7800x3D

Better performance than Requiem with path tracing

[ivory stirrup]

Hair maxed out?

[plucky axle]

every time i look at diana my fps go low for the fucking hair ahah

[jovial crag]

does the game have dualsense haptic/adaptive trigger support?

[steep trench]

ys

[jovial crag]

both or just adaptive trigger?

[steep trench]

both

[jovial crag]

ayy thats nice, thanks!

[shut dome]

game looks so good and has been amazing to play

[steep trench]

the boss fight is kind of hard tbh🤓

unexpectedly hard, when compare to the mobs fight

[meager walrus]

How do you guys load reshade here?
dxgi.dll or some chain loading with REFramework?

[steep trench]

im gonna finish this on my 32:9 and do the full achievement on my c2

i just use RHI install both reframework and reshade, didnt even want to bother to find how to dowoad reframework lol

[shut dome]

Nice!!! I just got that suit! Haven’t finished a section yet tho

[urban creek]

in the back is the first ||REM set|| completed

[shut dome]

Yeah need to finish a section still. Need to go back to find it

[urban creek]

i do a second run with japanese vo

[shut dome]

Those guys are so cute

[lethal flame]

Game looks insane

With Reno and PT

[loud hatch]

you guys experiencing low volume when headphones?

[weary aurora]

Do we need Reframework for Reno? Seems to be crashing at launch for me

[loud hatch]

yes we need

[white escarp]

Does anyone have really high DLSS performance overhead? 4K performance mode results in half the fps of 1080p native even forcing preset K on 3060.

[white escarp]

For me it’s low but similar to other RE engine games

[zinc ermine]

Is there any way to get UW cutscenes?

In RE games if I set it like this the cutscenes became UW, but here it does not

[meager lodge]

idk what’s wrong but nothing happens when i use reno in this game

[zinc ermine]

your reshade ver is old probably

[loud hatch]

can you share your RCAS values?

[rain girder]

its a bit over sharpened lol but it helps when Im playing on DLSS performance mode.

[loud hatch]

thanks. Yea really depending on the upsacaling settings. I have it on 0.600 at 4k DLSS quality

[loud hatch]

i fixed it by using 24 bit, 9600Hz format.

[thorn mulch]

no way this game already has reno yall are insane

[rigid glen]

new nightly fixed ultrawide cutscenes

[lusty cosmos]

What do you guys think of my settings?

[thorn mulch]

can't get reframwork to load using latest nightly version just goes to black screen

[sacred jetty]

do u take screenshots from reshade?

[loud hatch]

anyone using TB400 mode with this game? Whats your game brightness settings?

[midnight stream]

@rain girder dont we get bundled RCAS with reno? is it not HDR liliums? why would we use lilums over builtin one? Thank you!

[prisma quest]

i just leave on default 203

[dusky hound]

rcas isn't automatically bundled into every renodx release, usually they have to ask for lilium's permission to include it on a per mod basis. It is not apart of this mod, yet at least.

[midnight stream]

roger that thank you for letting me know!

[tight hinge]

For that reason, I always just use standalone lilium shader

In every game. It's the only thing I always include

[dusky hound]

5 minutes into meeting Diana and I already love her as a character, so adorable. Playing with JP voice over tho, I didn't really like her English voice performance lol

it annoyed me for some reason

[dusky hound]

yeah it's not that hard to install anyways, especially with goated tools like RHI being available

[weary aurora]

English VA seems to have been directed to emulate a little girl anime voice, instead of a more natural speaking voice for a kid. Japanese movie kids for example do not speak like that, its a very specific performance.

[unreal slate]

you should leave peak as whats calibrated in windows

youll get blowouts in highlights with this

[dusky hound]

yeah it does remind me of a bad English anime dub 😂

[midnight stream]

i found that reno addons always disable all other resahde effects/addons for me - must be the paths config - but it happens in every game i add reno to. is that standard behaviour or did i clown sometihng up

[dusky hound]

probably the path folder config getting screwed up somehow

Idk I just use RHI now and it makes it so much easier to install all of these tools with the click of one button and I don't have to mess with the game folder at all

[midnight stream]

roger that ill go learn the tool thank you

[meager lodge]

i checked but the ver i used is 6.7.3 which i think is the latest

[unreal slate]

btw for in game hdr, calibrate that too or this completly bypasses it?

[tight hinge]

RenoDX bypasses it

That's generally the case with every game

sometimes game's UI brightness setting still applies

But not here, there isn't one

[unreal slate]

Ah ok I just reset them to default after installing reno

Second game where Im using this, first one was crimson desert there I changed ui brightness in the game menu xD

[cunning urchin]

Guys, how do I take HDR screenshots without the image looking washed out?

[frosty gust]

are you viewing reshade screenshots through the photos app

because the photos app doesn't work with hdr pngs

you have to open with chrome or SKIV (included with the SpecialK installer)

[unreal slate]

uh last time i sent it was dark af

[cunning urchin]

“I managed to take a screenshot using the Windows Game Bar (Windows + G)

[unreal slate]

reshade doesnt work for you?

[cunning urchin]

I just changed the screenshot keybind

[cunning urchin]

It looks like this if I take it with ReShade

[unreal slate]

no idea then, for me it gives me jxr option and png

what version are you using

[cunning urchin]

Version of what?

[unreal slate]

reshade

[cunning urchin]

6,7.3 addon

[unreal slate]

huh

and it doesnt let you change to png as screenshot format

?

[cunning urchin]

no

I was taking screenshots with ShadowPlay using Alt+F1 and it was saving in JXR

Now it saves in PNG using Windows Game Bar; I'm going to leave it like that

[stoic mountain]

Cursor should be like this?

[unreal slate]

in the main menu i tihnk not sure

in game its like this but i play on controller so not sure

[cinder oyster]

this isn't an HDR screenshot

reshade should save an hdr png in the game folder, i don't know why it doesn't work for you

[frosty gust]

is HDR not enabled in windows

[unreal slate]

SDR screenshots show up as 32 bit in windows photo viewer right?

HDR are 48bit +

for sdr im guessing 8 bits per rgb + 1 alpha

[elder pecan]

Welp

Looks like no pc gaming for me for a while

Gotta send my GPU to msi

The black screen issue has become more prévenant

[cunning urchin]

"I don't know either; the image gets all washed out

It looks like this

[cunning urchin]

But with Windows Game Bar, it's taking screenshots in PNG and it looks like it is in HDR

[steep trench]

no it is not

u can set to png in reshade

[cunning urchin]

Can you send me a screenshot of the right configuration

[steep trench]

literally the last option in this screenshot

sry for quoting should just use copy link

[stone locust]

Just got RDX, Reshade, and RElimiter all installed for the Pragmata demo through RHI lol. Great little program

Gonna try the demo before I decide to buy

[cunning urchin]

portable e network graphics png?

It was already set to PNG.

[steep trench]

then u should be able to find it in that path

[cunning urchin]

But now the screenshot isn't washed out anymore

[stone locust]

No path tracing in Pragmata?

[steep trench]

this is now hdr

[steep trench]

not in demo

[stone locust]

Ah but is in full game?

[steep trench]

ys

[stone locust]

Dang I wanted to see those frame tanking sparkly light beams

Probably don’t want people to try it and be like “this game performs like trash, 0/10 don’t buy”

[steep trench]

i think it is just unfinished at that point

[stone locust]

True. I would just go ahead and buy it, if I hadn’t just been promoted to customer at the company I was working at

Not sure I can justify $60 for a 10-12 hr game

[frosty gust]

Updated:

• Replace separate ACES and ACES (Customized) with single ACES + ACES Mid Gray slider with 4.8, 10.0, and 15.0 options
• Rename Purist to Match SDR
• Add Match HDR

[cunning urchin]

Yes, I am; I'm playing with it enabled on a 3060 12GB with DLSS on Ultra Performance at 60-70 fps. This last screenshot of mine was with path tracing

[stone locust]

Crazy it works on a 3060 lol

[stone locust]

You guys are beasts

[steep trench]

new ip, new gameplay, in house engine new tech, highly polished, no woke, no controller cursor nonsense, insane amount of language support are the reasons i should support this kind of game

[loud hatch]

noticed match hdr paperwhite is 150 and match sdr is 203

[cunning urchin]

The screenshot is set to PNG in ReShade, but when I take the shot and check the folder, it's in BMP

3060 12GB WITH PATH TRACING ON

[stone locust]

Not the same engine as RE9?

[meager lodge]

why is renodx not working on mine? like nothing changes even when i try to put the exposure up or the contrast etc

[stone locust]

Remove and install newest pinned. Clear shaders and try again

[loud hatch]

I like Match SDR preset but im losing some shadow details with it so im gonna stick with Match HDR even though i feel its a bit washedout

[unreal slate]

Im getting a bug maybe fore the last 2 hours, 2nd zone when you activate the 4th gate thing, the next area if I get close to it game crashes(tried stock, oc etc, doesnt matter just hard crash)

[frosty gust]

yes

intentional

match sdr is just whatever

sdr doesn't have a set brightness

[tight hinge]

Yeh probably want something halfway in between..must be possible to tweak that

[meager lodge]

tried it and still doesnt work

[loud hatch]

i cant decide lol. Match SDR really looks nice but at the back of my mind, I know that Im losing shadow details compared to match HDR haha

[frosty gust]

default settings is halfway

[tight hinge]

Ah cool. Haven't had chance to try latest yet

[unreal slate]

should sdr eotf emulation be off if playing in hdr?

[stone locust]

Doesn’t have to be

[cinder oyster]

Are you using the pragmata tweaks lua script?

[unreal slate]

for light bounces and radiance cache ye

[cinder oyster]

radiance cache causes crashes

in some areas

[unreal slate]

i see

i am crashing in the same area for 2 hours

.....

[stone locust]

It’s just trying to emulate the SDR curve for EOTF in HDR from my understanding

[unreal slate]

so that is personal preference?

[stone locust]

Yeah depends on how it looks on your display. In RE9 it looks better off IMO

[unreal slate]

for me it looks better off idk

[stone locust]

Then leave off

[unreal slate]

kk

ill also wait for someone to post good settings xD

this is fine for now

i just want to break my controller since I was running through the same area for 2 hours

thought it was my overclock i started reducing it by 10 until i just reached stock and it crashed

ill disasble radiance cache

[cinder oyster]

Default settings are good

[stone locust]

Default looks pretty good to me but I’m just playing the demo lol

[unreal slate]

without changing anything?

this i mean

[cinder oyster]

Game brightness and peak brightness you can change

[tight hinge]

I feel sorry for you, that sucks. If you want a stable game I would recommend never really tweaking stuff in RE Framework

Marginal gains, way less stability

[unreal slate]

i tweaked stuff in mh wilds but didnt know that radiance cache causes crashes ppl just said it gives more fps xD

[unreal slate]

I can set peak to "tested" values?

i just set trueblack 500 and apl stabilize to high and then hope the monitor will boost in low apl scenes xD

[frail glen]

I love that they actually gave us full dualsense support. even motion controls, I wish Re9 did that too

[cinder oyster]

yeah your display peak

[stone locust]

I’ve found most newer games do, but I’m also wired

[cinder oyster]

I found some areas look pretty bad without eotf emulation, I'm using match SDR

[stone locust]

Tend to have fewer issues than playing with wireless

[frail glen]

have to play wired for haptic feedback

game feels so good to play with all features and gyro, thats the way it was meant. not even thinking about going kbm

[stone locust]

FPS games it’s always KBM

3rd person games like this is mixed for me. When I’m trying to snipe I like the ol mouse

[frail glen]

use motion aiming in this game its really good

but yeah I played re9 on mouse because no motion aim, fps is always mouse tbh

[stone locust]

My cat seems to really like the game

[frail glen]

my cats love hunting my mouse cursor, gotta be careful

[stone locust]

Thankfully my younger one has learned to look and not touch

[frail glen]

I found out LCD can be pretty scratch resistant. hasnt touched my OLED yet I think that would end badly

[unreal slate]

Yep radiance caching was crashing my game

Not oc

[frail glen]

yeah we found that out yesterday. not touching anything for this game as you can lose so much progress on a crash

[unreal slate]

Yeah sorry I didnt see that it was causing issues, I played just a bit yesterday but was soo tired and went to sleep

What about the ray bounces count?

I was losing so much progress rn for hours

xD

right behind that door was the checkpoint thing

and thats where it crashed

[sacred jetty]

with the new update can i just replace the addon without quitting the game

[tight hinge]

No

Playing this game feels a bit like playing Portal. Similar vibes for me

[steep trench]

same

[unreal slate]

first time im using gyro aiming on controller

feels weird

[blazing dagger]

Hmm, turning on FG gives me periodic stutter in this game.

[stone locust]

Try using DC or RElimiter

[blazing dagger]

Didn't change anything

and now I even got

[unreal slate]

are you overclocking?

[blazing dagger]

Nope, and no crash after removing DC

[stone locust]

Clear shaders?

Latest drivers?

[carmine zealot]

what exactly are the default settings? Reset all or Match HDR?

[unreal slate]

my question too xD

[tight hinge]

Reset all

[stone locust]

Reset is default

Match HDR is their settings to try to match default EOTF

[turbid shore]

well theyre both kind of defaults in a way, the renodx defaults are reset and match sdr tries to... match sdr game as much as possible

[blazing dagger]

Its clearly because of DC. Adding it = crash

[tight hinge]

Reset all (defaults) is usually how the mod author plays. 9/10 I go with that

[tight hinge]

Report it here

https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1423918603035476041

Author is very helpful

Myself and many others are playing with DC without issue

So might be worth resetting your DC config

[stoic mountain]

why my screenshots not hdr 🙁

nah its hdr all fine

[stone locust]

Try completely deleting the app and settings ini then download the newest release ver from GitHub, if it still doesn't work just use RElimiter

[blissful merlin]

Looks fine to me

[midnight stag]

what limiter preset are you using out of curiosity here

[tight hinge]

I almost always use Reflex limiter, set to the lowest latency reflex option

And that's the case here too

I'm using 2xFG and pace native frames does show a smoother graph, but reflex limiter is just as smooth to my eye and I appreciate the 5-10ms better latency

Ill show you a s/s of config shortly once I'm back at pc

I cap to just below reflex cap

It's silky

[modest stirrup]

So still crashing with Radiance Cache? Latest update of REF doesn't fix it somehow?

[tight hinge]

Lol sorry, no overlay

Uploading

[midnight stag]

when you say lowest latency reflex option that's just the very first "default" preset on DC right? So basically no reflex markers, reflex obviously low latency and first preset that's called something like "low latency something (bad frame pacing)"

[midnight stag]

aaah

you're actually using reflex markers gotcha

at that point why not just use the game's own reflex? genuine question, isn't it the same?

[tight hinge]

Just allows me to set a lower fps limit

Tbh using the Default option you mention gives very similar results in this game.

I struggled to choose between the two

Pace native frames is a good contender, just slightly higher latency

[midnight stag]

yeah it's all game dependent, pretty low latency here, that difference there wouldn't make much of a diff gameplay wise

[tight hinge]

True, but similarly I cant notice a difference in pacing when panning camera

Reflex markers just seems good ol' reliable.

[plucky axle]

mmmmm im crashing even without the chace guys

[tight hinge]

Only hard thing in the game is ||hacking the bots that run away and disappear!||

[tacit wasp]

Hi all,
I haven’t used Reno in a while, but now I’ve got everything set up again. I changed everything with DLSS Swapper and NIS to 310.6, RR Preset E / RCAS Illumination 0.6, running DLSS Quality / FG x2, playing with PT / Reframework, bounces up to 5, and no Radiance Cache for now since I want to avoid crashes.

I just have one question about the in-game HDR settings: if I remember correctly, Reno overrides all of the game’s HDR settings, so I should leave them at default and basically ignore them, right?

Did I miss anything else? Thanks kindly in advance.😁

[gaunt depot]

Dose 'Match SDR' mean the best setting that matches original artistic direction? or should I leave it at default like this?

[plucky axle]

bounces up to 5 boost fps or decrease fps?

[loud hatch]

its the best looking imo. However, you will lose some shadow details as it dark parts becomes too dark, crushing shadow detail. Match HDR on the otherhand is kind of washedout. Default settings (Reset All) is the middleground, so thats the one I use. I just disabled film grain and adjust my UI and Game Brightness accordingly

[rain girder]

My bad, somebody let me know that those old screenshots were SDR tonemapped and that I should take my screenshots with reshade . These new screenshots should be hdr now I think lol

[gaunt depot]

Yeah I agree with your points, I was just doing A/B with the 3 options. I'm going to stick with the default as well. Thanks for the insight!

[latent briar]

Hi. Is this normal ? I downloaded from the nexus page.

[modest stirrup]

Don’t worry Musa just wants to steal all your bitcoins.

||false positive bro||

[latent briar]

I don’t have any so its fine

[tight hinge]

That's where I've landed too

||decoy gun|| is op!

[strange sage]

What settings are people using for Radiance Cache? default or turned up? seems like default looks a bit worse and runs better?

[tight hinge]

Leave it default, it crashes at various points in the game if you change radiance cache

Repeatable crashes. Not worth it

[strange sage]

Awe really? That sucks. 🙁 I'm not crazy though that when it doesn't crash, it does look insane when you crank up RC?

[tight hinge]

I didn't think it was supposed to look different. Just a slight performance bump

Crashes in this game are no joke as well. You can lose a lot of progress

[strange sage]

Ahh fair enough. I was reading a paper from NVIDIA about it and it seemed to indicate a quality boost rather than performance boost so I was just messing around in the first few rooms after the starting tunnel. Definitely not worth progress loss though, I got annoyed losing 10 minutes in Silent Hill 2 and I'm guessing it's a lot more than 10min of progress at rist from your tone haha

https://research.nvidia.com/publication/2021-06_real-time-neural-radiance-caching-path-tracing

if it's okay to post a link here, if not I can delete it

[tight hinge]

It's brutal because the crash that occurs is after a major fight, just as you enter the save room 🙃

Probably 20 mins

[strange sage]

Oh that can drink underwear sweat from a dirty mug lmao

[shut dome]

im using the path tracing radiance cash with no issue

just finishes the terra dome

but maybe that doesnt do anything

[strange sage]

we're talking about changing the settings within RC

[shut dome]

as the original instructions said to turn on the ray tracing radiance cache

[tight hinge]

Yeah don't think it does

[shut dome]

put im doing path tracing

[native orbit]

maybe it's safe on later levels again

[shut dome]

yes I know