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[stray grove]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/1?tab=files allready updated i think

[pure sundial]

What the fuck has happened to the rock textures

[dapper lake]

That was an hour ago, he just added an effect its in changeling

Changeling? Changelog

[dapper lake]

They're shy dont upset them

[stray grove]

Changelinggg

[viscid wedge]

shit weather but photomode answered my prayers. can get SO much further away now.

[subtle nova]

yeah, they have been cooking for real

[young pebble]

Is no hud parallax mod working after update?

[subtle nova]

Fixed an issue where attacking NPCs with trees was not considered a crime.

[teal iron]

anybody else getting super slow patching files speeds on an NVME? updated finished downloading ages ago...

[pure sundial]

They fixed the parallax so you shouldn't need that mod

[dapper lake]

Oooh shit nice now all we need is an fov option in photo mode.. and to toggle photo mode DOF independently of the main game settings

[viscid wedge]

nope, but that wouldn't be a game related issue

[pure sundial]

whoops replied to the wrong message

[gaunt dust]

Sorry first time pc gamer here how do i install the hdr fix

[viscid wedge]

there is or at least the patch notes called it that.

Increased the maximum camera distance in Photo Mode, added a field of view adjustment feature, and a camera shutter sound effect.

[pure sundial]

That's normal I had that too

[stray grove]

@young pebble still work but its kinda ass immo that make all the wall look flat

[dapper lake]

OOOOH BABY

[gaunt dust]

no the step by step, just where's the link to download?

[mossy gust]

but did they center the title screen?

[dapper lake]

Bro im about to have so many screenshots

[fresh field]

WOW, they really sped up teleport time

[cold tree]

dlaa still fucked on hdr + 50 series

[viscid wedge]

it would be in the pinned messages but its broken after the game patch that just dropped, check back tomorrow

[fresh field]

its nearly as fast as it is when you tele directly from a travel point

[wise flax]

Changed criminal acts to not decrease Contribution before an NPC witnesses the act.

LETS GOOO

[lucid thorn]

Also that skill where you grab into a ledge and double tap jump uses so much less stamina

[gaunt dust]

A NEW PATCH DROPPED??

[brazen coyote]

Made the Abyss more convenient to play. What does this even mean lmao

[pure sundial]

Okay guys rock textures look fine as long as you don't go in first person and get a close up

they are a pixelated mess I don't know what they've done

[wise flax]

@lucid thorn Good it was basically useless because you couldnt fly after using it..

[stray grove]

autoexposure does not work anymore

[viscid wedge]

like 30 minutes ago

[burnt berry]

either my game is broke or they actually made night time darker now?

[stray grove]

welp look like all of renodx fix arent working anymore

[pure sundial]

It's still worth using for the tonemapping

[gaunt dust]

Did they fix the over saturated greens? lol

[viscid wedge]

Hold up people, i need someone to test something. I don't think stealing reduces rep now if no one catches you

[wise flax]

mproved locked doors so that an interaction button is displayed, allowing players to choose whether to use a key to open the door.

These patch notes are great

[dapper lake]

Its an exploration game bro, explore to find out what the patch has done 💀🤣

[stray grove]

@burnt berry i bet you they been lurking in this thread and seeing the fix so they applied them 😂

[wise flax]

I was using a workaround holding my lantern up at every door which would prevent you from entering if it was locked.

but that sucked

[unreal mason]

How broken is this mod with the latest patch?

[minor osprey]

I'm getting a ton of flickering near me on the ground though. Wasn't there before. I've turned everything off so this is vanilla.

[pure sundial]

everything aside from tonemapping is broken

[wise flax]

Should I bother updating to the latest version then

I assume not

[pure sundial]

I mean the gameplay changes are pretty good

[brazen coyote]

It's hard to know when I've already traversed half the abyss whether it means "made puzzles easier" or something else

[pure sundial]

lots of good changes

[brazen coyote]

Not like I'm gonna replay older puzzles

[unreal mason]

Damn, not sure I wanna play without cromatic aboration and the sharpening tonned down lol

[wise flax]

I mean the latest version of Reno. I have yesterdays version.

[teal iron]

have you tried clearing your shader cache? im still waiting for the patch to patch, but maybe that will help?

[pure sundial]

oh honestly yeah no point updating

[burnt berry]

maybe it was just the weather i was in but it seems a little darker?

[jade flame]

Game is built with the intent of you using DLSS I guess.
This is the water shimmer effect on native.
(there are a ton of these in motion)

[manic valve]

Sweet

New patch time

[lucid thorn]

Mining feels so much better

Traversal is crazy

[pure sundial]

Cinematic settings btw

[wise flax]

Does "LetThereBeLight" get overwritten with the patch? Does it work if I replace the 011 file after updating to the latest patch?

[dapper lake]

Aye im taking the piss about the ambiguity of the note lmao, fuck knows what its actually done

[minor osprey]

It said compiling shaders after the patch, but I'll try that. What sucks is I had just done that because I installed all the latest Reno stuff 🙂

[manic valve]

Major Updates

This patch adds 5 summonable mounts, decreased loading times for fast travel and revival, and some more changes to controls as part of our ongoing efforts to improve the game's controls.

[lucid thorn]

Put them to ultra see if that fixes it

Cinematic was busted at one point

[stray grove]

there is a lot of ground flickering ???

wtf

[burnt berry]

man these new fast travel times are so good

[minor osprey]

Yes. I'm getting that too

[pure sundial]

Nope still the same on ultra

[languid vessel]

did they fix the nature's echo bug where it gets pixelated?

[manic valve]

Added a "Make Now" function which allows food and items to be cooked/crafted immediately in the Cooking/Crafting menu once a recipe is selected, without having to separately select ingredients.

[lucid thorn]

Sad

[wise flax]

I'd highly recommend trying clearing shader cache and stuff. This game has weird issues with settings reverting to low randomly and shit like that.

[pure sundial]

I think I might do a clean install of the game and see if it fixes it

[manic valve]

Moved the the private storage chest in Howling Hill Camp, previously located behind Karl, to inside Kliff’s tent.

Wasn't someone just complaining about this??%^^^

[pure sundial]

yep hahaha

perfect timing right

[fresh field]

yeah ill prob force RR preset D, the faces in this cutscene look like mud

lol

[viscid wedge]

Me lmao. see I knew it was in a stupid place

[wise flax]

It was sometimes annoying trying to target the chest as it would spin you to talk to the guy next to it.

[manic valve]

They heard you

[pure sundial]

Can anyone else confirm if their rock textures are fucked?

[manic valve]

Improved the Knowledge Helm so that all obtainable knowledge visible on the screen can be acquired at once.

Finally lol

[viscid wedge]

and my North Up option for the minimap.. AND the extra camera distance controls in photo mode

[manic valve]

Additional inventory expansion items obtained after reaching the maximum inventory expansion limit (240 slots) will now be granted as boxes containing crafting materials and other items.

[viscid wedge]

I have that, no idea what it does

[manic valve]

So no more than 240 slots lol

[stray grove]

that parallax toggler does not work anymore it keep reverting itself

[pure sundial]

it's because they fixed the parallax you don't need it

[brazen coyote]

Still can't rebind WASD, bets they never add it

[manic valve]

It lets you know when there's stuff around to learn I think

[dire pilot]

oh yeah, they've fucked some stuff up with this patch lol

[wise flax]

Who rebinds WASD? thats wild

[fresh field]

so far it seems like the very latest feature added to reno are borked with this patch

[stray grove]

@pure sundial not sure they fixed it the ground is flickering really bad without the parallax toggler

[burnt dew]

holy patch

[viscid wedge]

so you just run around with the pink light stickign out of your head?

[fresh field]

nights are still dark, but cant control it anymore lol

[manic valve]

Graphics & Settings

Improved rendering stability and visual quality in low-resolution environments or when upscaling is enabled.

Improved the rendering of translucent materials such as hair, fur, and clothing when FSR-RR / DLSS-RR is enabled.

[brazen coyote]

Not everyone has a QWERTY keyboard

[pure sundial]

I DO ARROW KEY MASTERRACE

[manic valve]

It's blue lol but yes it has a little light on it that lets you knowq

[wise flax]

ewww

[brazen coyote]

Also ESDF players are aplenty nowadays, everyone's improving their gameplay

[wise flax]

lol

[manic valve]

I love the Steampunk look lol

[pure sundial]

Just joking haha

[hoary vector]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-burn-treehouse-of-horror-GluxBCBDI8xna

[pure sundial]

no way this is a thing

[vivid iris]

in what situations are you seeing vignette?
edit: nvm I found it. Vignette is one of those effects I'm often kinda blind to. will add a slider

[manic valve]

so many fixes in this patch

[dire pilot]

there's a lot of odd temporal jitter around stone edges now lol

[pure sundial]

I think vignette is the least of our problems rn

[manic valve]

This game will amazing in like 6 months lol. So amazing. Early days still

[hoary vector]

sometimes it be like that. Othertimes you're like wtf how this possible

[brazen coyote]

It's very much a thing. It's such a thing, Gabe Newell does it.

[viscid wedge]

my hue settings are doing things too it lmao

[manic valve]

oh shit yeah it's supposed to be blue

[brazen coyote]

ESDF was how it was before WASD btw

[austere dune]

anyone checked this fix out from the patch?

Fixed an issue where displacement mapping was not applied correctly when DLSS-RR was enabled. In addition, the DLSS-RR preset has been changed from D to E, improving overall visual quality and fixing an issue where texture animations, such as waterfalls, could stop playing.

[burnt berry]

i thought it had a vignette but then i realised it was corner dimming

[pure sundial]

I think only people with unc status know about this

[manic valve]

Wow they changed the preset to E. Amazing

[wise flax]

@brazen coyote Alright grandpa lets get you back to bed

[brazen coyote]

I'm 42

[pure sundial]

I'm 23 and I didn't know that

[dire pilot]

faces indoors are still fucked up with preset E lol

[brazen coyote]

You're in a chat explicitly used to improve the visuals of your game as optimally as you can

[dapper lake]

Its more the displacement map thing

[brazen coyote]

You should understand people do the same for controls

[wise flax]

I'm 36 and I don't remember anything other than wasd

[lucid thorn]

Oh my god new stealing mechanics are amazing

[austere dune]

testing them out now lol

[viscid wedge]

I'm 39, never heard of that

[pure sundial]

I'm sure they do, mostly joking

[vivid iris]

everybody should anticipate rendering options in reno to break with game updates that touch the graphics in any way

[pure sundial]

Yeah I'm not at all surprised

[viscid wedge]

welcome to the club

[brazen coyote]

There are two kinds of people; Those that sharpen their tools when they are dull. And those that sharpen them when they know they can be sharper.

[pure sundial]

Very wise sir

[wise flax]

Is that a Crimson Desert quote?

lol

[brazen coyote]

Nope, just a very old quote

[burnt berry]

maybe im on copium but there does seem to be less boiling with RR

[brazen coyote]

1400s from what I understand

[manic valve]

Sweet they fixed the laggy double jump bug

[teal hollow]

no mention of minimap zoom out

[dapper lake]

All i can think of is the dull sword myth now

[lucid thorn]

Giys

I'm gonna be going off on this patch but you can finally cancel the fucking bow on controller

[lone inlet]

Go back to preset d. It fixes the ground flicker. Least I think. Seemed better from what I could see.

[wise flax]

There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe there are two kinds of people in the world and those who don't

[stray grove]

that ground flickering\jitter really bugging me i cant unsee it

@lone inlet im on preset D and its still bad

[austere dune]

bloom strength currently is doing this lol

[viscid wedge]

now that its really dark, turning AE on and off is definitely doing something. i'm not going to say its 100% working @lucid thorn

[lone inlet]

At least DLSS looks better. Still doesn't look how I feel it should at 1440p, but vastly better than pre-patch.

[lucid thorn]

Thanks for checking

[burnt berry]

flying feels so much smoother, the wings pop out so much quicker and smoother

[quasi flicker]

ayo

patch

CD 1.01

[pure sundial]

The grounds looks way better with RR

[lucid thorn]

It's so good

[austere dune]

dlss quality 4.5L

1440p cinematic settings

bridge is really blurry

[cold tree]

DLAA + HDR on 50 series work, but only without FG

[dapper lake]

Oh.... great lol

[quasi flicker]

how is the new patch ?

[spare quartz]

DAMN they fixed ray reconstruction displacement mapping

[cold tree]

30-40 fps lets go

[lucid thorn]

Really great on my end

[quasi flicker]

DLAA+HDR fixed ?

[stray grove]

https://medal.tv/games/crimson-desert/clips/moRl5bsTai0B7HCjJ?invite=cr-MSxZWlYsNTQ1MzQzNDc3 look at this guys the flickering jitter on that ground and wall shadow then i toggle the parallax fix and it goes away

[cold tree]

only without fg

[austere dune]

omg the flying stamina reduction is awesome

[spare quartz]

big patch. a lot of gameplay issues i had got addressed

[pure sundial]

nope

[quasi flicker]

ffs

[jade kettle]

but you lose all tesselation

[pure sundial]

I've never even seen that flicker in my life I wonder what's causing it

[cold tree]

nah nvm I see black bars even without fg lol just less and not taking half the screen when using the sword

[dapper lake]

The bow was always my test lol

[pure sundial]

are you playing with rr on pedro?

[cold tree]

dont see much of a difference on quality

[stray grove]

@jade kettle i know its was just to show how bad it is now

@pure sundial yes RR on

[cold tree]

I mean, not better on quality, still trash in comparison to dlaa

[pure sundial]

Strange I wonder what causes it

[fresh field]

dlss seems a bit more shimmery in places now, anyone else noticing?

i am forcing RR preset D

[pure sundial]

try switching to dlaa then back to quality

[edgy raft]

nah we used arrow keys before wasd

[pure sundial]

fixes the blurriness

[stray grove]

@pure sundial if i toggle the parallax from shader toggler it fix it but i loose all the depth and if i move camera around the toggle revert right away

[manic valve]

why force D if it's now set to E by default?

[pure sundial]

Yeah the mod is probably broken after the patch

[fresh field]

cause preset E makes faces look like trash indoors

[stray grove]

@pure sundial turning RR off and its doesnt flicker

[fresh field]

looks like someone put some gravy on their faces

[hoary vector]

bah still cant double jump when sprinting before a glide

[manic valve]

I like gravy

[viscid wedge]

disregard the shit framerate that OBS captures for me (i can't seem to get it to handle generated frames, its smooth in person) and Auto Exposure turned off, but the new camera goes crazy

[dapper lake]

*sometimes * istg this game is bipolar

[dire pilot]

at least load times are appreciably faster

[untold flume]

wow that actually worked lol

[austere dune]

it's still pretty blurry when using the heavy attack combo

[fresh field]

gonna see if E gets rid of that shimmer

[pure sundial]

your game looks so sharp, 4k?

[dapper lake]

Im about so spend a whole day in photo mode ig damn

[viscid wedge]

yes, RR + DLSS Balanced, Cinematic settings

[pure sundial]

ahhh

[stray grove]

@fresh field yea same switching to E

i dont get it though turning RR off that wall shadow flickering is gone

but it look like shit

i cant unsee it now

[untold flume]

game looks beautiful

[paper heron]

new update it sems like material improvements and foliage shadows arent working

[viscid wedge]

Grab PNG's using ReShade https://www.hdrmods.com/HDR-Screenshot-Guide

[paper heron]

\and the sun looks weird

[hoary vector]

jpegxl in the wild

[untold flume]

ohh shit cant post jxl files

[pure sundial]

cant see lol

[untold flume]

my bad lol

[hoary vector]

the internet isnt ready for jxl

[fresh field]

yeah swapping to the E preset default fixed that weird DLSS shimmering i was getting on stone surfaces

[austere dune]

guess i'm still sticking with DLAA. anything below DLAA still blurry

[fresh field]

will just have to deal with mud face

[sleek veldt]

• ⁠Fixed an issue where displacement mapping was not applied correctly when DLSS-RR was enabled.

[candid badge]

is the reno hdr still fine?

[pure sundial]

tonemapping works nothing else tho

[lucid thorn]

Broke in some ways

[pure sundial]

still worth using imo

[sleek veldt]

What’s that mean?

[mossy gust]

should i still use the pom fix in reshade?

[dapper lake]

I've been using optiscaler ans witching during those scenes lol

[plain fractal]

Omg

[lost gust]

new patch

[stray grove]

that new patch did not improve graphics in no way ahah it look worse immo

the ground look terrible now

[steel wolf]

Everything is flickering now

[cold tree]

yes same

[stray grove]

@steel wolf im not crazy right ?

its a flicker fest

[dire pilot]

🙃

[untold flume]

im not getting the flickering

on DLSS 4.5 Quality

[steel wolf]

its not the mod right?

[lone inlet]

Yea the ground is a flickering mess with rr

[untold flume]

i have the mod installed

[pure sundial]

Reno off vs Reno on

[steel wolf]

I tried disabling dlss

[lone inlet]

Idk what they did

[mossy gust]

hmm, i'm not getting any flickering

[steel wolf]

What are your settings? Im noticing it on the ground in hernand

[jade flame]

Indoor light seems a little less shitty when using DLSS at least now.

[stray grove]

i tried RR on and off which mean dlss 4.0 preset E\D and preset K they all flicker like crazy

[mossy gust]

i verified my files so nuked anything i might have added previously, other than reno

[stray grove]

@mossy gust i did too

flicker fest still

[untold flume]

i tried switching to DLAA then back to Quality and it cleared everything up like @pure sundial said. It actually worked

[mossy gust]

hmm, i dunno

[steel wolf]

The patch says they updated the RR model, but its still doing it even with it off

[stray grove]

@mossy gust you playing with RR on?

[mossy gust]

yeah

[pure sundial]

Okay auto exposure still does work

[untold flume]

even performance mode looks awesome, but im playing at 4K. Cant speak for other resolutions

[pure sundial]

More noticable indoors than outdoors

[steel wolf]

wait is it just some bs shader compilation?

the roof i was looking at stopped flickering

[stray grove]

the ground having a full on party on my screen

[pure sundial]

maybe do a clean reinstall of your game

[viscid wedge]

its pretty noticable outdoors lol. something doesn't seem right, maybe that light mod that broke is needed again?

[steel wolf]

found some more flickering rocks lol

[lone inlet]

I mostly noticed it in Hernand. Outside there, I don't see much.

[primal estuary]

the updat probably overwrote the lighting mod

[stray grove]

@pure sundial i verified steam file and cleared shader cache a clean install wont fix it immo

[viscid wedge]

it did, thats what i'm saying

[stray grove]

@viscid wedge if you try adding light mod it will crash the game on start

[wise flax]

What is a "Hernand Refinement Token"?

[primal estuary]

reinstal probably fixes that unless they BOOORKED it

[primal estuary]

nvm

[viscid wedge]

gives you a refinement charge without needing mats. its a new currency in the world

[stray grove]

i mean would take me 20min to reinstall game i might try

[lone inlet]

I'll say this, I can deal with a few flickering objects on the ground. The disgusting blur when using dlss quality made me want to wait to continue playing this so I'm glad they somewhat fixed that.

[dire pilot]

and it's still heavier than PT RE9 🙃

[viscid wedge]

i believe someone said they tried and the game would crash on startup. i'm not too interested in trying myself

[stray grove]

@viscid wedge ya that was me

ahah

[brazen coyote]

The abyss is not easier to traverse... I grabbed 2 puzzle cubes from a place and can't take them out of the kuku pot and they won't respawn in the world so now I can't open this door lmao

[stray grove]

@viscid wedge i made a backup of the 0011 folder to be sure

[lucid thorn]

I'm gonna say it and it might be controversial

I think night is actually perfect the way it is rn

[pure sundial]

Still looking pretty good with reno

[dire pilot]

whatever they did to chests in caves is sending me

[pure sundial]

Lol this was an issue in the last patch too

[brazen coyote]

lmao

[manic valve]

I think I've hit a bug in the main quest... Toward The Nest quest. Can't rotate the disks to solve the puzzle. And once you stop tracking the main quest, you can't start tracking it again so I don't think it will activate?

[stray grove]

@pure sundial yea when im staying still everything look good immo but when i start moving is a different story ahah

no joke before patch i did not have that flickering

[brazen coyote]

oooh you discard not pull out

[dire pilot]

it's beautiful

[lone inlet]

Looking at the grass now after seeing Forge's adjustments makes me hate it. Give me that back and I agree.

[pure sundial]

Yeah it's a little misleading

discard makes you think you're gonna lose it

[hoary vector]

intel mode 😮

[pure sundial]

wtf

[candid badge]

oh i forgot i gta wait for the hiv patch till i can play

[static crag]

Oh my god it looks incredible 🤩!!! Can you share the settings?

[wise flax]

Did you guys all disable the rendering settings like Spectral Sky Scattering, Specular Anti Aliasing, Diffraction etc? It's hard to tell what is still working or if it makes things worse.

[lucid thorn]

none of my night shots captured properly but they look so good in person

[stray grove]

@pure sundial its 100% something to do with upscalling or RR i just tried without any upscalling and moving camera around looking at the ground not a single flicker

😂

[steel wolf]

i turned off everything an dit was still flickering

althought i havent deleted the mod yet

[stray grove]

i dont think its from the reno addon

you can just toggle it off in game

[wise flax]

@vivid iris Anything official on if we should be trying to reinstall lettherebelight, or which settings in reno we should disable until you guys can fix things?

[steel wolf]

wait nvm

its definiltey upsclaing

[vivid iris]

wow, yeah I need to come up with an alternate tone mapping solution that works well for SDR. These ACESv2 curves are absolutely tragic here

[stray grove]

@steel wolf its RR tried with and without they borked the RR even more

[vivid iris]

all I can really suggest is disabling the stuff in the rendering section for now

that's just to be safe though

[steel wolf]

They "upgraded" it from D to E based on teh patch notes

[pure sundial]

are you using dlss

[stray grove]

@steel wolf nah bullshit they downgraded ahah

[wise flax]

@vivid iris OK, the only thing in rendering I can confirm is working is sun+moon improvements, but moon disk size is broken.

[vivid iris]

rendering stuff has been forge's project, so I'm not super familiar with how it's all connected

[tiny spear]

guys

how do i clear shade cache?

[viscid wedge]

yeah guys, stealing when no one is around i'm not losing rep anymore

[pure sundial]

auto exposure fix is still working

[vivid iris]

I can say that a lot of shaders aren't being swapped out anymore

[stray grove]

@pure sundial yea dlss but does not matter which one i use if i turn RR on the shimmering\flickering is instant on ground when moving camera

[pure sundial]

rough

[stray grove]

🥲

[wise flax]

@pure sundial Yeah thats also not under rendering. I'm glad it still works though as it makes night look much better.

[pure sundial]

oh my bad I misread

[manic valve]

They made Kliff control less like a tank

[stray grove]

i can't unsee it honestly im gonna look into reverting that update if i can fuck it

[vivid iris]

anyway, added a vignette control, now to see if I can get something decent looking together for SDR

[minor osprey]

I'm going to test RR Preset back to D instead of E using DLSS swapper and see what happens.

[wise flax]

The game looks much better at least in the area I'm in. I'm not seeing tree blobs and it looks much clearer/less blurry over a long distance.

[stray grove]

@minor osprey i tried both and its the same

[pure sundial]

Yeah I'm getting some shimmering now too pedro, not as bad as you though

[iron ravine]

why does RR look worse now? is it just me?

[stray grove]

im testing in herrand village so i can easily see it on the road

@iron ravine welcome to the club

😂

they downgraded RR even more

[ruby tusk]

I haven't played yet but this dudes stream Im watching, everything looks better for him

so idk lol

[lucid thorn]

Oh my god I can rest again

[viscid wedge]

oh, i found the biggest fix of them all. It is now Day 41 and I can finally sleep again

[viscid wedge]

lmao, i just noticed too

[gaunt dust]

yeah everything looks super sharp now even on DLSS Performance

[wise flax]

I'm also having really bad flickering on the ground now though.

[iron ravine]

DLSS looks much better now, but RR it's a blurry mess

[subtle nova]

its due to switch to E preset

[dire pilot]

we good again, CD - thanks for the head gear lol

[subtle nova]

Swap it to D preset using DLSS Swapper

it will be back to original

[wise flax]

I'm debating turning RR off because of that shimmering tbh.

Was lighting improved at all without RR?

[stray grove]

@wise flax you see it too right ?

[subtle nova]

i have previously tried switching manually to E preset and it was blurry as fuck

[stray grove]

https://medal.tv/games/screen-capture/clips/moRQb70qFxkgBGInx?invite=cr-MSxaV24sNTQ1MzQzNDc3 its hard to see on this clip but its all over the ground

[subtle nova]

so i switched back to D

now devs forced everybody to do the same

[stray grove]

i forced preset D in dlss swapper but honestly does not make a difference with the shimmering\flickering on ground

[subtle nova]

just to double check, are you sure u switched RR preset and not DLSS preset?

those are different

[brazen coyote]

God the faster fast travel is so nice when it hits

[dire pilot]

I can totally see them trying to fix RR and just broke it even more

since it's so ingrained in the actual pipeline

[untold flume]

is there a transmog in this or no?

[mossy gust]

wouldn't be surprised if they add it at some point

[stray grove]

@subtle nova if you use RR its overide dlss preset automaticaly to either preset E or D

[iron ravine]

idk if it's worth to go back to RR now that dlss it's so much better

[subtle nova]

not really to my knowledge

[untold flume]

yea i turned RR off for the time being

[viscid wedge]

you talking about the wooden fence in the top right?

cause I can live with that stuff, RR is just better overall for me

[stray grove]

@subtle nova so ya any game when RR is turned on it will override which ever dlss preset to either Preset D or E since RR is not implemented in dlss 4.5 yet

[spare quartz]

no rr preset d and dlss preset d are not the same and have different flags

[quasi flicker]

what he means - if you turn on RR its not DLSS 4 or 4.5

[stray grove]

@spare quartz im talking about dlss rr preset

[lilac geyser]

should i update to today's reno or wait

[stray grove]

lets say you pick Dlss preset K if you turn RR game automatically override that preset and use either DLSS RR D or E

[paper oriole]

you guys are talking past one another. Yes, DLSS preset d and e is different than RR preset D and E. Fact. Yes, if you enable RR in the menu, your choice of DLSS preset is irrelevant. Fact.

[restive roost]

technically RR preset D is a Transformer model, ergo DLSS 4

[subtle nova]

alright

[ruby tusk]

D and E are both 1st gen transformer models, yes

aka DLSS 4.0

[stray grove]

thank you Mr. @ruby tusk i guess i should of precisely mentionned DLSS RR preset to not confuse anyone 😅

[vivid iris]

is stuff like this happening without reno?

[lone inlet]

The flickering is substantially worse on d than e. Jesus. The whole ground at the abyss nexus in hernand flickers

[dire pilot]

oh the sky stuff still works

[vivid iris]

it's possible there could be some things reno is doing to cause artifacts with only some shaders missing

[languid holly]

Dunno what to think about the alternative auto exposure. It deffinitely is more realistic but man you do not want to do combat at night with it.

[spare quartz]

imagi e if nvidia just called things what they are instead of putting dlss label on everything

[quasi flicker]

DLAA + HDR black bar flicker is still there

fml

[languid holly]

wish there was a middle ground

[stray grove]

@vivid iris would toggling reno off in game disable it entirely ? or i should try to remove it from game folder and see if those artefact still present?

[jade flame]

Yup.
I had some false hope at first. Was working fine. But that didn't last very long before the bars came back.

[languid holly]

tbh don't see much difference between quality and DLAA on 4k except the big FPS hit 🫠

[gaunt dust]

Ok so while we wait for a renodx patch, did anyone actually figure out how to get the in game hdr to work properly without washing everything out or blowing up the white

[minor osprey]

DLSS Swapper messed up RR for me completely. Even when I try to set it to default, I get a completely black screen with RR on. I'm going to wipe all the shaders and verify files and see what happens

[vivid iris]

you can disable in the reshade addon menu and reboot

[wise flax]

I just randomly stumbled upon this place called Argent Peaks and holy shit this place is aids.

[vivid iris]

it's inherent to how ACESv2 works. All you could do is drop exposure to hope to get a little more saturation out of it

[jade flame]

It's better now than it was at least.
A lot of lighting scales to resolution. So the lighting had more issues on DLSS Quality.

Today's patch is supposed to fix or at least improve that issue with the light scaling.

[daring orbit]

how exciting

[viscid wedge]

that i'm not sure, i'll have to check tomorrow though.

[dire pilot]

I do think the image is overall cleaner after the patch, but it still needs work

[median kindle]

Am I trippin or is LOD better when upscaling?

[languid holly]

I dunno if it's reno or the new patch but the shadows are WAY less blocky for me now (everything cinematic +lighting max)

indors it was horrible before

[jade flame]

Yeah, it was super bad.

[fresh field]

yeah RR is honked, holy shit

all that ground shimmering goes away with it off

[blazing ridge]

Have the waterfalls always looked this crisp?

[languid holly]

yes 😄

[dire pilot]

they did change the waterfalls

[stoic cypress]

why doesnt my game launch when using LetThereBeMoreLight files

[ruby tusk]

they look better with DLSS RR Preset E

[dire pilot]

the waterfalls don't look like cotton anymore

[blazing ridge]

plot: i'm amd user haha

[mossy gust]

being able to fly for more than 2 seconds is really nice

[primal estuary]

the most recent patch sets that as the base

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk you tried new update yet?

[ruby tusk]

I know

[ruby tusk]

just hopped on

[stray grove]

@fresh field yea guess im playing without RR for now

i just removed the shadded toggler and renodx from game folder and rebuild shader cache let see if flickering are still that bad

[wise flax]

@stray grove did that help?

[stray grove]

turning RR off remove the ground flicker

[fresh field]

yes let me know. i am going to force preset M with 4.5 with RR off for now.

[minor osprey]

I tried all that @stray grove . Didn't help.

[quiet copper]

@crude marsh can you update you increased lights intensity mod please, based on latest patch from today? I see they udpated 011 folder files. games not starting with your existing files now

[stray grove]

@minor osprey well were cooked

[minor osprey]

Yea. Going to turn RR off for now.

[stray grove]

right before the update i was literally telling myself how good the game looked with those fixe lol

[minor osprey]

same. I like the other updates. And a bunch of stuff does look better, but the ground shimmering is very distracting.

[cold tree]

guys this update looks worse 😭

[gaunt dust]

no it doesnt

[stray grove]

we know 😭

[wise flax]

It seems to be worse in some areas

[cold tree]

too much visual glitches on stuff

[languid holly]

Let there be more light doesnt seem to work gives this error

[stoic cypress]

new update broke it i believe

[stray grove]

@languid holly yep cant use it i did the same

[languid holly]

aight thx

did it make a difference at night with new auto exposure? It's waaay to dark for gameplay

[kindred shoal]

reno fixed quitea few issues with the game

[languid holly]

good for walking around though

[kindred shoal]

they prolly dont work anymore

[stray grove]

im glad im not the only one seeing all those issue introduced by patch i though i was crazy 😂

[fresh field]

oh no. i noticed it right away

i was like this aint right

[languid holly]

yeah weird ground shimmering so far

[stray grove]

1st second i loaded in i saw it

[fresh field]

game still looks pretty dang good without RR with reno going

[stray grove]

the thing is most reno fix dont work anymore

[languid holly]

after RR there's no going back 😄

[fresh field]

able to still have max lighting with 4.5 forced M and all cinematic and still hit 145 FPS

well yes, but for now i will manage

[undone mica]

Does new update break Reno?

[fresh field]

not really, new update breaks OTHER things though

graphically

[languid holly]

still works on my end.

[stray grove]

doesnt just break reno 😂

reno work but most fix dont

tone mapping work

[fresh field]

yeah they'll have to rework the newer settings they just added

grass shadows and such

and lazorr will have to update his light increase fix

[undone mica]

Ah unfortunate

[fresh field]

but imean the core of the mod still works

[languid holly]

patience frens

[fresh field]

their HDR tweaks still look better than vanilla

[lone inlet]

Flight feels insanely good. Like goddamn. You no longer stop the second you go to glide. In fact, you gain a bit of momentum now.

[fresh field]

my gamn RN without RR

still looks nice

[turbid dome]

My reno window doesnt pop up any more I just want it for the removal of CA

[lone inlet]

Now go indoors

[turbid dome]

Anyone know the fix?

[fresh field]

not the best but itll do until things get fixed

[jolly isle]

I forgot I had disabled my auto-tune for my RTX card

[fresh field]

dont harsh my buzz, i will go inside now and cry probably

[jolly isle]

reran the tuning and got myself a good 10 extra FPS

[lucid thorn]

Sounds like windows deleted it, recover it aha

[stray grove]

@fresh field im gonna avoid indoor like the plague

[turbid dome]

Ah duh makes sense, ty

[quiet copper]

yeah noticng some dark glitches in the shadows from lantern on big trees when walking by that weren't there before

[jolly isle]

anywhere there are other objects

causes the issue

[dense hound]

Are you getting a horrible flicker? I can see the tesselation works better with RR but the faces and ground and foliage has a horrible noise/shimmering. I also see there being a sharp boundary around the characters feet where the RTGI shadows are being applied and it looks odd, almost like something is misplaced in the pipeline. Most noticeable when in hernand during the day and walking around. It almost looks like a screen space artifact. The renodx hdr mod seems broken too, everything is desaturated though highlights are working I think.

[jolly isle]

obv you cant see it in a still frame but if you watch the video and focus on those types of objects on the ground

you will see the shimmering/flickering/fuzz/static/whatever you wanna call it

[fresh field]

indoors look a bit flat now, yeah, but its not the end of the world for now

[jolly isle]

great, come home after working, and having to stay late, while sick with the flu, and they broke RenoDX and RR

[analog root]

Is the indoors noise better?

[lucid thorn]

But they made the game better

Some positives some negatives

[dire pilot]

you turn off RT and RR, whatever the hell screenspace solution they're using is really fucking bad lol

[lucid thorn]

It's doing its best

[jolly isle]

yeah but RenoDX, at least with the custom autoexposure, pretty sure it says its kind of meant to be used with max settings and RR on

I just wanted my cheese my gaming time

[dire pilot]

yeah, I'm just using the tonemapper for now tho

[lilac geyser]

what's broken with reno?

[jolly isle]

#1469072401450012774 message

[quartz flame]

heard it doesnt work for now for amd users

[rocky umbra]

Just updated - gonna find out 🍿

[lilac geyser]

im still using a previous version just fine

[fresh field]

uh, not sure how to answer that? i havent ever not used RR lol

[kindred shoal]

they really are putting in work tho

some great updates

[fresh field]

thats indoors, obv, with RR off

max lighting still tho

[lilac geyser]

tavern upstairs in hernand is a good spot to check

[kindred shoal]

oh my god they reduced stamina for grapple and spidey swing

[fresh field]

oh, cause of all the smoke?

yeah ill check there

[lilac geyser]

right when you get up the stairs it's insanely noisy

[gaunt dust]

Wait latest patch is constantly crashing the game

[jolly isle]

maybe they mean this?

[cobalt sorrel]

wait am i reading correctly that the new update broke some of the things in the mod? did it break the lighting fix too?

[fresh field]

ok so the echoes move looks WAY different without RR on to try to denoise the effect

[cobalt sorrel]

didnt play today and just seeing the game has an update

[fresh field]

so thats what its SUPPOSED to look like lol

[vivid iris]

tone mapping, auto exposure, and (most) post processing stuff is still working

not sure about bloom/lens flares

[gentle cedar]

As long as disabling CA still works

[vivid iris]

it does

[cobalt sorrel]

all good, i stopped playing Ready or Not bc every mod would break every time they updated the game so i gave up

[steel wolf]

Did anyone elses issues slowly resolve themselves idk if im crazy or not

[cobalt sorrel]

used to that happening so i know it'll take time to look into and fix whatever their patch broke

seems like these devs r goin all in and going to make ton more patches to the game man

so i know we should expect things to break from time to time probably, appreciate everyone's hard work

lot of seriously good updates in the patch notes

[lilac geyser]

im most excited about gliding

it feels so good now

[cobalt sorrel]

does it?

[lilac geyser]

yes

[cobalt sorrel]

less stamina used right

u can go how much farther would u say

before u run out

[lilac geyser]

yes, and you dont slow down when initiating it anymore

[cobalt sorrel]

oh awesome

[lilac geyser]

like 3 or 4x probably

[cobalt sorrel]

dayummmm

sick

glad i didnt bother playing today LOL

cant wait to get back to it probably a bit sometime later tomorrow (today technically since its late lol)

[lilac geyser]

same

[kindred shoal]

lots of good changes

[spare quartz]

dies gliding conserve momentum now or its fixed speed?

[cobalt sorrel]

i still cant seem to figure out what i should focus on doing. im at a point in the story where u have to wait in game time for camp to be finished

i feel like i should mainline the story quests until maybe chapter 5 or 6 or something

[young pebble]

how much is the patch size? mine is showing 3gb

[kindred shoal]

gliding, a prompt to use keys, dont lose rep if you arent caught stealing, refining updates... a lot

[cobalt sorrel]

i explored a little bit to go grab some armor i liked that looked cool and stuff, one of the legendary horses, and a couple easy early weapons but thats it

[cobalt sorrel]

wait, u dnt lose the 5 rep anymore for stealing

[pine spade]

yes

[kindred shoal]

oh my god loading is way faster

[kindred shoal]

wtf did they do it was already pretty fast

[cobalt sorrel]

should i just restore that 0011 folder's original files then

[mossy gust]

i'm actually really struggling with the north facing minimap, i think i got used to the other way

[dire pilot]

yeah, I think the lods are a little better now

[lilac geyser]

fast travelling was always faster than the animation it played

[hardy owl]

Holy shit Forge. Thanks a lot!!!

[cobalt sorrel]

HALLELUJAH

[worldly swan]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck lol, you know why the game dev use eye adaptation trick? because working on the abyss puzzles at night is a nightmare in the dark, I fell down twice and the puzzles reset themselves from the beginning lmao

[stray grove]

exacly its all over the place

[hardy owl]

So did the developers fix what Forge just fixed?

[fresh field]

lol, no one tell him

[hardy owl]

Poor Forge man

[fresh field]

seriously though, this patch broke RR

it added a ton of flickering on the ground

[hardy owl]

No way what happened? I just woke up and there is so much stuff going on with the game

[kindred shoal]

i havent seen any

[fresh field]

the fixes they made to RR broke how RR looks in the game

[kindred shoal]

but im out in the wild

[cold tree]

specialK allows to change dlss preset right? cant see it

[fresh field]

its really noticeable on rocks/roads

like to the point that is is distracting

[quasi bear]

how big is the new patch?

[hardy owl]

Is it because they change the RR model? Have you tried going back to D?

[stray grove]

@hardy owl patch pretty much broke RR there is load of flickering on rocks roads and i village mostly all over the ground

[kindred shoal]

you say flickering?

[sturdy vector]

Is this because of preset E being used for RR now?

[fresh field]

D is worse, its the stuff they changed with RR

[hardy owl]

Fucking hell...

[cold tree]

ok was about to use D

[stray grove]

D and E is just the same to me it flicker a lot on both

i cant unsee it

my eyes

turning RR off remove all the flicker\noise

[lone inlet]

I only really noticed it on those wooden planks in Hernand and a few rocks. Out in the wild I didnt see any. On preset d though I noticed it all over the road in hernand lol

[hardy owl]

Could it be because it messes with Forge settings?

[cyan veldt]

How bad is it if I’m still using nvidia driver 576.80 😕

[sturdy vector]

Nvidia needs to make a better version of RR asap

[sly swift]

not at all especially in this day and age ngl

[stray grove]

@hardy owl no with or wihout renodx its the same

[hardy owl]

Well my day is ruined

[stray grove]

@cyan veldt i mean that driver pretty old ngl

[cyan veldt]

I get so paranoid about updating that I break something

[stray grove]

@hardy owl i said earlier i literally was telling myself how good the game looked with the fixes and then i updated my game 😂

@cyan veldt i update every update almost or second i check online if driver is good then i update

[rocky umbra]

Id say popin is slightly reduced. I can see vram usage up a atad as well.

I dont see any weird artifacts in hernand town

indoor is improved but still too blocky

[ruby tusk]

Don't wanna be that guy but I don't see any flickering on new update yet running around Hernand

[hardy owl]

So either we wait for a parch to fix it or forge. What a mess

[cyan veldt]

Do i need ddu or i can just clean install

[stray grove]

or you close your eye

[ruby tusk]

yall PCs might be broken

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk which driver you on again?

[sturdy vector]

Get into a cutscene and there will be noise popping on characters faces

[ruby tusk]

latest driver

[stray grove]

i checked steam and whole lot of people commented about flickering too

[lone inlet]

Check this exact spot. It's right at the fast travel point in Hernand. That's where I first noticed it.

[hardy owl]

Are you on the latest driver?

[stray grove]

yea 595.97

there load of people commenting on the update post on steam saying RR is worse and ground flicker for them too

flicker\noise\grain whatever you want to call it

[cyan veldt]

Can someone eli5 what am i missing staying on 576.80 please T_T

[quasi bear]

is it only when using RR?

[hardy owl]

Well the developers are quick to patch things so I guess we'll have to wait for the fix. I hate when developers break stuff seriously

[stray grove]

not perfect without RR but way better its barely noticable

[hardy owl]

Please guys report the bug here. The more people complaining the better

https://crimsondesert.pearlabyss.com/en-US/News/Notice/Detail?_boardNo=67

[rocky umbra]

Some stuff going on. 🤔

[sly violet]

Is it me or the game is really dark with renodx ?

[ruby tusk]

I went there and did see some funky lookin wood planks on the ground but they disappeared

[hardy owl]

It wouldn't surprise me if they just added Reno's fixes in their own patch lol

[stray grove]

@rocky umbra yea this does not look good the poor ground

also is renodx Rcas tied to RR? does not seem to work with RR off

[sly violet]

yeah it seem so it was oki before but now i can't seee a thing at night and full day looks dull

[cold tree]

light fix doesnt work anymore ^

[sly violet]

The new patch seem to have fix a lot of issues without RR tho , the artifacts on shadows and ligthning are minimal compared to before

[hardy owl]

did you try removing the autoexposure alternative toggle?

[stray grove]

@sly violet yea ur right without RR i can see the improvement

[sly violet]

let me try

[jolly isle]

idk the ground looks fine to me

[sly violet]

yeah even DLSS 4.5 and cinematic light look good now

[round kettle]

My game crashes during the walking section of startup now 🙁

[stray grove]

@jolly isle its fine when not moving but if you move you dont see all the noise\shimmering on ground with RR?

[hardy owl]

LOD issues remain correct?

[jolly isle]

with parallax fix or no?

[stray grove]

@jolly isle my parallax fix wont work if i start moving it revert automaticaly

[fresh field]

leave hernand heading east on your horse and ride along the roads and youll see what i mean. it happens elsewhere too but thats where i noticed it myself at first.

[stray grove]

@jolly isle when i toggle it on though the flickering is gone but has soon as i start moving the toggle revert

wtf mine revert auto when i turn it on and start moving

[jolly isle]

[hardy owl]

I am checking the new RenoDx version and nights look great. No issues with darkness

[ruby tusk]

I'm doing my part

[jolly isle]

can you show on map

[fresh field]

just head eas on the road toward the healing house area and report your findings

[sly violet]

your right the auto exposure make it look more dark

[stray grove]

@jolly isle you have RR on? when RR off parallax work just fine

but when i turn RR on it auto toggle back to default

[jolly isle]

https://youtu.be/mM8V6eLy0R0

Right down the road

can't miss it.

[fresh field]

i dont have the game open right now lol

like head out of hernand town south and then head east along the river

[stray grove]

man this game has some weird behavior i tried dlss RR preset E again with dlss swapper loaded the game without RR on then turned it on in game and the flickering is mostyl gone??

[pure sundial]

taking screenshots is addicting

[fresh field]

ok let me try this and ill head east on my horse lol

[stray grove]

@fresh field 100% flickering gone preset E RR on right now wtf

[subtle sinew]

Are there any updates to let there be more light?

[sly violet]

yeah the menu is bugged you need to restart everytime

[fresh field]

so all you did was turn RR off , restart game and then turn it on?

[pure sundial]

nop

patch hasnt been out for very long

[hardy owl]

We need that mod work soon. Lights at night are too dim

[subtle sinew]

rip

[stray grove]

@fresh field turned RR off exit game then dlss swaper changed RR preset from D to E and restarted game and turned RR on and now ground flickering is fixed

😂

[fresh field]

has to be from D to E?

lol

[dawn hollow]

I'm doing the same constantly

[stray grove]

i was on D i changer to E

[fresh field]

oh ok

[stray grove]

doesn't make senses though

[fresh field]

so that may not be a factor, just turn off RR , exit and restart then enable

no, it doesnt

[stray grove]

like i swear its 100% gone

[hardy owl]

I was thinking the same. What if RR toggle is the issue

[stray grove]

aslo i changed from dlaa to quality a few time in game to make sure

[fresh field]

i know of a few spots it was 100% noticable, will go there and see

[stray grove]

yea i keep reloading same save on the same spot i was

[jolly isle]

I agree

[karmic quest]

" Fixed an issue where displacement mapping was not applied correctly when DLSS-RR was enabled. In addition, the DLSS-RR preset has been changed from D to E, improving overall visual quality and fixing an issue where texture animations, such as waterfalls, could stop playing. "

Damn

[hardy owl]

Pedro I have the same issue man how exactly did you fix it?

[fast sable]

Only way I've found to "fix" the ground and flickering with RR on is setting model quality to low. Anything above that makes any like edges or models with texture like flicker in and out, even with RR off

Also is renoxd broken rn cause of update?

[stray grove]

i set RR model to quality in inspector too i forgot

[hardy owl]

Man what is this shit wtf 😒

[ruby tusk]

Yeah see I don't have that

[paper oriole]

me neither

[hardy owl]

And you have RR enabled?

[jolly isle]

wtf is that sound

[ruby tusk]

yeah

[paper oriole]

yup

[jolly isle]

I thought my ear popped

[ruby tusk]

everything maxed with RR and FG

[hardy owl]

Everything set to cinematic?

[ruby tusk]

yeah

[fast sable]

turn down model quality to low does it make a difference?

[paper oriole]

everything maxed (cinematics+) with no fg.

[spare quartz]

don't use swapper this game doesn't like it

[hardy owl]

The issue is completely gone when removing RR

This is a joke

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk you on 595.97 and dlss swapper RR set to D?

[jolly isle]

just dirt roads

I didnt see anything weird

[hardy owl]

But is it me or they have fixed all the shadows and lighting? The game looks really good without it wtf

[paper oriole]

I'm still on 595.79, default preset.

[fresh field]

so i did the RR off and on thing and now im at a spot where it was happening and its not. only difference from when it was and isnt now is that its not day time. its like 820p at night

[cold tree]

noticed that... even without RR feels like it is on

[quasi flicker]

are you sure dlss swapper actually works ?

[fresh field]

will try during day

[ruby tusk]

not using dlss swapper and yes latest driver

[hardy owl]

There is no shadow flickering at all. Its gone even in the distance

[quasi flicker]

because i dont think it actually changes presets / resolutions etc

[hardy owl]

Wtf the LOD shadows issue is fixed

[quasi flicker]

run a debug so you can see what DLSS is actually used

[stray grove]

@ruby tusk default RR preset?

[hardy owl]

Interiors look much better without RR as well

They have done something that has changed fundamentally the code here

[cold tree]

no RR is looking great lol wtf

used to suck

[manic valve]

this is the best driver rn

[ruby tusk]

yeah

[hardy owl]

Yeah what the hell lol

It looks exactly as when RR was turned off in the previous patch

[stray grove]

aight i reverted swapper to default and nvidia inspector to default let see

[jolly isle]

ahh here we go

the issue shows for me in the trees

[stray grove]

lol

[jolly isle]

not on the ground tho

[hardy owl]

I dont know man we need Forge Lazorr and the other members of RenoDx team here to check what's going on

[fresh field]

yeah something like this but it was on the ground too lol

[pure sundial]

gotta wait till tomorrow

[hardy owl]

What I can say with certainty is that RR is not needed anymore to get the lighting improvements

[open timber]

Hello there 🙂 Can someone tell me what's still working after patch and what not? Does reno work? What about the stronger light sources mod?

[pure sundial]

not sure what their timezones are but I think they've been working on this a lot today before the patch dropped

[hardy owl]

RR doesn't change anymore the quality of the lighting

[stray grove]

ok i Can confirm reverting RR preset to default in swapper and nvidia inspector fix shimmering on ground

[pure sundial]

Is max lighting still locked to RR?

[stray grove]

on rock mostly i still see it under grass

[hardy owl]

I would say 99% no

[lost gust]

LetThereBeMoreLight seems to be broken after the patch

[pure sundial]

I will test it

holy shit u right

cinematic lighting with rr on

[cold arrow]

ok I thought I was going crazy, is anyone seeing tons of shadow issues with RR now?

[cold arrow]

how it still is max only for me?

[covert ruin]

using glider feels way better now

[solar bone]

finally faster loading times

i hated dying to bosses

[lime bridge]

how'd they change it

[fresh field]

?? when i have RR on and change lightning from max to cinematic, it toggles RR off

[pure sundial]

no

it doesnt work

[cold tree]

yes

[hardy owl]

Guys just go to any interior and turn on and off RR. The lighting is the same

[pure sundial]

It doesnt toggle RR off for me but it instantly reverts back to max when you close the settings and re open

I got baited

I was lied to

[cold arrow]

Whats up with reno night time with the Auto exposure btw? Its super dark no matter what I change

street lamps hardly cast any lighting

[solar bone]

it will always be very dark

[stray grove]

@cold arrow the light fix is brokent

[pure sundial]

That's what the light fix mod was for but it's broken with this patch

[cold arrow]

oh rip

[hardy owl]

Because Lazorr mod doesn't work

[cold arrow]

didnt realize there was a light mod

[stray grove]

anyone still getting ground flicker with RR revert to default RR preset if you changed it

[solar bone]

they most likely changed a bunch of lighting parameters in the game

so the mod broke

[pure sundial]

I've temporarily turned dynamism up higher so I have more visibility at night with auto exposure fix until that mod is fixed

[cold arrow]

Ive turned off RR for now because it was crazy ugly after the udpate

[solar bone]

It is?

[sly violet]

i have the ground flicker with and without RR now for some reason lol

[cold arrow]

my shadows were broken all over the place with RR tons of flickering

[hardy owl]

Weird I have RR off and zero flickering

[crude thunder]

so update broke game AND mod? 😫

[solar bone]

well it's just the Auto exposure stuff

[fresh field]

should i force 4.5 M?

lol

or just use 4.5 default

RR off, obv

[hardy owl]

The game looks better now with 4.5 L

[jolly isle]

RR on

RR off

RR still significantly better

[hardy owl]

This is great. The best improvements we got is the fact that shadows now don't flicker. This is huge

[cold arrow]

yeah RR looks way better

[stray grove]

@jolly isle post them in same post so we can toggle back n forth

like in same message

[cold arrow]

When will we get a RR model with 4.5 upscale quality

[sly violet]

L is too heavy tho you can run K at DLAA around same performance at L quality

[fresh field]

so whats the 4.5 preset? K?

[fresh field]

obv 4.5 L is L

but regular 4.5 is K?

[upper tulip]

M

[sly violet]

i think 4.5 is either M or either the same as recommended by nvidia

[fresh field]

so its M?

[cold arrow]

Displacement is accurate on RR now too

[stray grove]

@jolly isle yep RR look way better

[cold arrow]

we need 4.5 kind of quality on RR though so we can run performance and not be a blurry mess

[jolly isle]

4.5 doesnt have RR

[cold arrow]

I know

[jolly isle]

Nvidia still hasnt updated RR for 4.5

[cold arrow]

thats why Im saying it needs it

[pure sundial]

Waiting on nvidia to make a version of rr based on 4.5

[jolly isle]

and I've heard they sort of cant

because of how 4.5 works

[sly violet]

they will not because RR already use FP8 like dlss 4.5

[cold arrow]

they can make an improved RR though

I always struggle to decide if I want frames or visuals in this game

[pure sundial]

Watch it be a forced version based of dlss 5

[cold arrow]

RR looks so good but I also like playing 4k native so

[alpine bear]

DLSS looks even worse now after the patch. DLAA on the first screenshot, DLSS performance on the second. Armor and shield textures are broken in performance mode.

[sly violet]

for me now no matter the settings or preset i have ground flickering that was not there before the update

[stray grove]

@alpine bear i mean ofc dlaa and performance are gonna look different

[spare quartz]

there can still be improvements with fp8

[stray grove]

its like comparing a ferrari to a honda civic😅

[cold arrow]

yeah but the textures on the shield are clearly fucked

where the rest of the image is sharp

[alpine bear]

It wasn't this bad before the patch man

[subtle sinew]

the game looks so ass with the latest update wtf

[sly violet]

I mean they can make a new preset yeah but we will not see as much improvements as 4.5

[spare quartz]

wtf this looks like the textures didn't stream in properly

[hardy owl]

What do you mean? It looks better. Its just RR that is bugged but the game looks better with less flickering everywhere

[restive roost]

@stray grove try turning model quality to low and tell me what you think

[subtle sinew]

there's a lot more flickering on my end specially with the displacement map

[sly violet]

yeah same with RR OFF look better than before but RR ON look worse than before with new patch

[hardy owl]

Remove RR

[cold arrow]

At least we can fly far af

[subtle sinew]

https://klipy.com/gifs/antm-j-alexander-2

[fresh field]

if you dont want the ass that PA has forced upon us, you will

[hardy owl]

At the moment is the way to go. But I was saying before, the lighting without RR is very much improved. It not longer looks like ass

[subtle sinew]

oh wait I found the displacement shader againa nd removed it

[sly violet]

The game still look very soft tho with sharpness at 0

[subtle sinew]

back to looking gooder

[stray grove]

@restive roost i have it on quality right now in nvidia inspector and dlss rr preset set to default and honestly it look dam good right now flicker are gone

[hardy owl]

Pedro please put step by step what you did to fix the issue with RR. I am confused

[jolly isle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1qllo9m/why_there_is_no_dlss_45_ray_reconstruction_and/

[stray grove]

@hardy owl if you changed RR preset with either dlss swapper or Nvidia inspector revert to default thats it .. and i Forced RR preset quality level to quality but im pretty sure that has no effect

[jolly isle]

tl;dr RR for 4.5 aint gonna happen. Its too computationally expensive

as far as I can tell from the post

[fresh field]

what do i need to use to show what DLSS preset i am using in a game as an output?

[jolly isle]

DLSSindicator

[fresh field]

need to see if this override is using the right one

[jolly isle]

https://github.com/Hekel1989/Toggle-DLSSInfoOverlay

[hardy owl]

So you basically didn't know anything other than set quality level lol

[stray grove]

@hardy owl i just set it to quality just to make sure ahah

but it work flicker are gone

[sly violet]

they probably gonna release it with next generation and FP4 similar to dlss 5

[stray grove]

im pretty sure since i uuse dlss quality in game the RR preset is on quality too but just to make sure i set it in inspector appart from that everything else default

[jolly isle]

DLSS5

[hardy owl]

correct?

[sleek veldt]

It's preset E

Idk

[sly violet]

they can probably take the upscaling and RR part separetly of DLSS5

[stray grove]

@sleek veldt i was using dlss swapper and it was fucking with the dlss RR preset making a load of flicker on the ground

[cold arrow]

I wish they would give us a % resolution slider and sharpness slider

[sleek veldt]

I'm using nothing and it just looks bad

would a reshade mode do this it doesn't affect anything it's not active?/

[rough granite]

do we agree that new patch made new RenoDX improvements not working?

[hardy owl]

We have a sharpness slider with RenoDx

[hardy owl]

Not exactly many of them still work. Others have just been fixed by the company

[rough granite]

like the grass improvements toggling on / off I dont see a difference

[fresh field]

its broken right now with the new patch

forge will wake up tomorrow and curse his life and all of us

and then get to work

[quasi flicker]

while you at it get DLSS tweaks and enable debug window to confirm you actually switching output and preset

[jolly isle]

waking up to your project being borked by a patch

[solar bone]

They added a prompt for using keys

[sleek veldt]

I'll be back to the game once it's fixed

[stray grove]

poor forge

honestly once i got my flickering issue fixed with RR i can say it look has good as before patch

[hardy owl]

Pedro the shimmering in the ground is still there. Not as much but its there

[sleek veldt]

Game is blurry like High guard

[subtle sinew]

yeah same experience here it looks incredibly blurry oof

[cold arrow]

Will the rain with RR ever get fixed?

[stray grove]

@hardy owl try going to dlaa then back to quality there still a little flickering in some spot but its so much better

[sleek veldt]

It is??

[rough granite]

meh sad 😄

[cold arrow]

Did this update fix it?

[sleek veldt]

it was fixed before

I had RR performance 4K

[tame shale]

Does nighttime look bright for anyone else? Like 3 am looks like 8 am almost?

[cold arrow]

it destroyed my image quality RR performance 4k

now Im upt to RR balanced its considerably sharper than performance to be honest

[sleek veldt]

U got VRR on?

[cold arrow]

I dont think so

[solar bone]

VRR is a culprit a lot of the time

[sleek veldt]

I can see rain

[cold arrow]

I can see it but it destroys my image quality in motion

[sleek veldt]

What GPU?

[hardy owl]

It is indeed better but there is still some look

This is old and new respectively

There is improvement but not gone completely

[sleek veldt]

Arc B580 is the goat

[cold arrow]

4080

[fresh field]

DLSS 4.5 preset K DLAA im getting 110 FPS, looks crisp af lol.

obv no RR

[cold arrow]

I dont think I can play without RR

it just looks so damn good

[sleek veldt]

Upgrade to intel B580

[solar bone]

yeah no RR is just a huge downgrade

[stray grove]

@hardy owl yea i still see bit of flickering under grass mostly but not when i move its when im still

[quasi flicker]

huh nice so we can actually change presets

debug shows preset did change

[hardy owl]

Am I the only one here who dont see anymore that difference between RR on and off? Raytracing works fine now without RR

[cold arrow]

why would I do that

[manic valve]

did they change the rain effects? Looks way different

[hardy owl]

With RR there is less ghosting but I dont see lighting differencea

[quasi flicker]

but still cant change input render fml

[cold arrow]

thats not an upgrade

[stray grove]

check the picture @jolly isle posted above RR on is way better

[sleek veldt]

B580 is powerful

[cold arrow]

not more than a 4080

[quasi flicker]

yes

its boiling less

[crude thunder]

any fix for RR flickering after update?

[sleek veldt]

It's really good and has Multi frame gen

3x and 4x

[hardy owl]

I dont see a lighting change, just less boiling. And thats it. But the interiors look great now to me. Before without RR they were super ugly

[quasi flicker]

i turned off RR

[sleek veldt]

B580 has 4090 performance

[cold arrow]

Dog a B580 is not even close to a 4080

[quasi flicker]

fuck that blurry mess

[restive roost]

Jensen is that you?

[cold arrow]

gotta be rage bait lmao

[quiet copper]

@faint bobcat looks like your latest grass and shader tweaks not working on latest game patch

[cold arrow]

dude told me to upgrade from a $1200 card to a $250 card

[subtle sinew]

this patch making me wanna revert to the old one 😭

[zenith hemlock]

its better to turn off RR after update? :

[hardy owl]

I would say for now yes. The good news is that the lighting looks much better now without it.

[crude thunder]

they shadow nerfed horse stamina with the changes lol, can't expertly tap sprint at correct times to save stamina, just uses it constantly now

[hardy owl]

Everyone should report this to pearl abyss thoug. Send them bug reports saying RR is causing flickering

[fresh field]

if you want to avoid the issues with RR that the new patch introduced, then turn it off.

[hardy owl]

https://crimsondesert.pearlabyss.com/en-US/News/Notice/Detail?_boardNo=67

[neon whale]

so let me get this straight, Forge release his changes in the addon and the game got updated soon after so shit is broken? lmao

[hardy owl]

Send them bug reports

[crude thunder]

Any renodx changes to make after turning off RR?

[fresh field]

yes, the newest stuff he added tonight is broken now, grass and material improvements, etc

but the core of HDR for reno still works

[covert ruin]

damn the grass was so good tho

[analog parrot]

damn, maybe you're right. i quickly tested it

[fresh field]

im sure he'll get it back in line tomorrow

[faint swallow]

Soooooo......I should just not let steam update CD then huh?

I'm just now hopping on today

[hardy owl]

I am sure I am. The lighting looks very good now.

[fresh field]

the patch is very good in everything except RR lol

[hardy owl]

RR just seems to give a more clean less boiling image quality

[fresh field]

and the stuff that got broken in Reno