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[foggy dust]

Just DLDSR and run a lower DLSS preset. You'll get a bit better performance, and HDR will work.

[brittle egret]

it has a slightly custom composite shader because its on an old ass version of ue

[finite anvil]

HDR that's it..that makes sense why people talking recommending DLAA never mentioned the artifacts if they never saw it

[golden scaffold]

Just tried it now, it's not so hard at all, just gotta be fast, I did with controller my tips are:

• don't use framegen
• release the trigger before you aim in, there's a delay @lucid thorn @viscid wedge

[brittle egret]

but the native hdr works just fine with ue extended and the standard filmic extended + composite shader fix

[desert fox]

Also aim in the middle between shots, shortest distance to targets on average then

[fresh field]

just park a wagon in front of the dudes platform, cant lose if he cant shoot anything

[foggy dust]

Yeah. If you're on 1440p, just enable DLDSR for 4k and use DLSS performance. You'll have slightly higher fps (and this game hides some objects based on fps being above or below 60 btw), and a much bit better view than 1440 dlaa.

And HDR will work

[fresh field]

Assuming youre talking about the archery contest

[wise flax]

Is the guy who was trying to force DLSS custom % in here?

I can't remember the guy's name from yesterday

[golden scaffold]

Lmfao that works?

[foggy dust]

Yep

[fresh field]

of course

everything is done in real time

lol

[foggy dust]

Or kidnap a goat and place it next to him. It will headbutt him

(or you, rng go brr)

[viscid wedge]

i'm doing another one of those right now, its awful. Just finished telling him everything and he goes "are you sure thats all, lets start again"

kill me

[foggy dust]

Now here's an awful quest.

Ffs this is taking forever to figure out.

Google it is

[dapper lake]

thers been load of folk trying lol

[wise flax]

Has anyone tried setting custom DLSS % from the user_engine_option.xml file?

[dapper lake]

doesnt work

[wise flax]

Ah

[dapper lake]

but you can input custom native resolutions

[wise flax]

I figured someone had tried it, but wanted to check.

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-chef-masterchef-lilb-gif-13910066

[hollow pollen]

lets go bro I appreciate you remembering. Thanks a bunch

[dapper lake]

do me a favour - set it to 120% (at 1440p that was 2804x1577) and see if you get dlaa black bars in game

itfixes them for me

[fresh field]

you can do all kinds of wild shit you wouldnt think of in this game, its pretty neat

[wise flax]

So is that how you got 1.78x dldsr to work?

[dapper lake]

but i cant find another res that theyre gone

yep

[wise flax]

through the config file?

[dapper lake]

and it seems to fix DLAA bug at certain resolutions

120% for me so far

99 and 101 still have it

[wise flax]

Unless you're on a 5090 at 1440p performance must be rough.

[dapper lake]

yes it is

[foggy dust]

It's rough on a 5090 too

[dapper lake]

hence tryna find other solutions

[wise flax]

I was getting like 30 fps on my 5090 with dlaa/RR

I can't imagine further raising the resolution lol

[dapper lake]

at 120% dlaa im getting 65-70 w fg in my current scene lol

5080

[foggy dust]

Uhh I get 55 - 65 (depends on what's on screen obv) at 1440 dlaa with everything maxed, no FG.

[wise flax]

Yeah that would give me a migraine...

[dapper lake]

im hoping i can find a resolution closer to 1440p i can use that the bug is fixed on

seems to be a scaling issue

[faint basalt]

hi, i am a long time Reno user from NExusmods. first time Discord reno user. where can i download the addon? 🙂

[foggy dust]

Then something is broken because no way you get higher fps on a 5080 at an even higher base res for DLAA to pump with. GPU is pegged at 100%

[wise flax]

@faint basalt pins

[jade spruce]

bro why does literally every effect shimmer? do they have an effect that doesn't shimmer?

[dapper lake]

im getting lower performance than base 1440p dlaa

[foggy dust]

Oh I see

WITH fg

[dapper lake]

im using fg

ye

[foggy dust]

I'm dumb. Excuse me.

[dapper lake]

game crashes when i turn it off so its easier to leave on in testing

[wise flax]

The worst shimmering is when you activate something like a machine or when you're cooking. That shit looks like it has heat boiling off of it.

[faint basalt]

just found that pin button lol. i am a discord boomer sorry

[wise flax]

And not in a good way

[rocky umbra]

welcome to the rabbit hole 😃

[dapper lake]

trying 110% before i try 80 and 90% wish me luck

if someone smarter than me could see this theyd maybe have something to go on for fixing the bug too lmao

[wise flax]

Eh just install the addon set defaults/recommended and roll with it. No need to make major adjustments it already looks really good.

[faint basalt]

is that DLAA + HDR buig fixed yet?

[foggy dust]

No

[wise flax]

no

[jade magnet]

I dont see these options. Is this coming in the future build?

[dapper lake]

110% is no go

[foggy dust]

Again, DLDSR 2.25x to 4k with DLSS perf is the way to go for cleanest image with HDR.

[kindred shoal]

that shit was big time terrible lol

[wise flax]

Do we know why random shadows will flicker like crazy until you get close while other shadows further away don't?

[foggy dust]

Yo gimme the answers. I can't remember the quest name. I'm still at the NPC. Been here since sunset. It's now daytime

-_-

[manic valve]

Just an FYI, the way to learn Focused Force Palm is on the way to Scholastone and totally easily missed

I had no idea I missed it lol

[dapper lake]

oh i know but im more interested to see if its more than 1 resolution the bug dissapears

[kindred shoal]

you cant just get the answers outright oyu have to do all thje listening bits

[foggy dust]

Game uses screen space shadows for things that are further than a few meters from you.

[kindred shoal]

but once you get the right answer a new option will open up. I can tell yo tuhat you have to lie every time

[foggy dust]

Oh boy. I eavesdropped 2 times. There's more?! bah

I guess more than 3 options then

[wise flax]

@foggy dust Why do only a few random shadows flicker while others are perfectly stable? It's like it rng picks which ones will flicker.

[faint bobcat]

no

its kino

[foggy dust]

Idk, the raytracing is weird in this game.

[faint bobcat]

this is what happens

when no decima jitter

by Kevin

[kindred shoal]

I think there is one more you need to do

[foggy dust]

This game is ugly and pretty at the same time.

[kindred shoal]

and it has to be on the roof of that building lol

[wise flax]

I think it's gorgeous, but it also very clearly has a ton of visual glitches and issues.

[foggy dust]

yeah okay quest updated when I backed out

[kindred shoal]

I thikn it looks great IF and only IF you have the absolute max settings with RR on and a high resolution

[wise flax]

Yeah I have max with RR so maybe thats why lol

[kindred shoal]

then it is generally consistent

otehrwise it can look amazing and then weird and noisy all te time

[wise flax]

I still have checkerboard shadows cast from my lantern pretty often.

[foggy dust]

Yeah it's pretty but also ugly. Hell, at the start of the game you can see the smoothing groups on your armor is missing the first time you see that weird-ass teleport animation. Like bruh. At least during launch. And then the insane popin 2m in front of you, removing objects based on FPS (noticed when testing DLAA 1440p vs DLSS Perf 4k), the whole ray reconstruction setup they have.

And when you get to the science place and have to run around inside the place? Woof the shadows 144p

[kindred shoal]

i dunno wtf happened but renodx actually fixed this for me

before it was like a low res shadow hellscape

[foggy dust]

Hah really?

[kindred shoal]

then i installed reno and its not like that anymore

no fkn clue what happened lol

it might actually just be a bug

[wise flax]

Or when it hits like 5pm and the sun immediately vanishes and the lighting becomes shit instantly. It's like oh it looks good boom sun death everything is dull and lifeless looking until the moon shows up.

[foggy dust]

Yeah I rebooted my damn game as I thought it got bugged. It was so ugly.

[vivid iris]

maybe cause we disable VRS?

[kindred shoal]

its possible

but it went to like i gotta get out of here this is driving me crazy to one of the best looking areas in the game lol

[foggy dust]

Fun game, can look pretty, can look worse than some 1man fisher price my-first-game. I'm enjoying it. Kinda want to restart as I feel a bit overpowered for chapter 7. :(

[kindred shoal]

it seems like that was an issue with emissive lights cause i was getting it with the lantern as well whenever i turned it on

now im not

[wise flax]

@foggy dust Reset your skills or something and use different gear vs restarting

[kindred shoal]

VRS might be it

[rancid jackal]

Auto exposure literally makes indoors a complete blackout

[golden scaffold]

But guys this game is so insanely optimised, 100 fps with raytracing no DLSS!

https://youtu.be/PRmdCfoVERQ?is=utKeSaPbAivk2gqr

[desert fox]

Did you use the LetThereBeMoreLight in the pinned too? Can also adjust the multiplier

[kindred shoal]

i mean it is quite "optimised"

although that word gets thrown around a lot in a weird way

[karmic quest]

Its optimised a bit too well

[golden scaffold]

(glazes the so called optimisation the entire time not mentioning the sloptrace noise you get without RR/MAX once)

[kindred shoal]

but thats because like stated there are some low res ass effects and shit

[golden scaffold]

It's not really ray tracing if it barely uses any rays and relies on tricks poorly upscaled by shitty denoiser

[foggy dust]

^

[kindred shoal]

lets see that path tracing mod

an actual one

im ready to play at 30fps

[rancid jackal]

I'll try it out. is this suggested by the authors of renodx as well?

[karmic quest]

Once some issues regarding DLSS / FSR m / RR / RT get fixed by the devs only thing they'd still have major focus on is the LOD. Rest could wait.

[jade spruce]

Writing another slopology letter

[viscid wedge]

its written by and pinned there by a developer here

[kindred shoal]

which multiplier specifically? indoors are dark af for me as well

[finite anvil]

I tried this and you're correct it does look better while also doing slightly higher FPS (about 5% higher) but the frame delivery gets messed up for some reason. Essentially, it ends up feeling like my VRR is not working but only when I do this. If I revert back to other settings like DLAA at 1440P or DLSS at 1440P, it ends up feeling smooth again despite lower FPS.

[desert fox]

I presume so. Lazorr is author

[desert fox]

I meant this.

[kindred shoal]

ahh

[foggy dust]

Oh you may want you restart the game. I don't change my desktop resolution, only the ingame one (it downsamples, at least in borderless). I don't use Gsync though as I have an OLED. Gsync messes with black levels, and it's super noticable on oleds. And vrr flicker makes that even worse. Adaptive vsync for me. 👍

[finite anvil]

I was only changing the ingame res

and I have an oled as well

[foggy dust]

Ah cool

[golden scaffold]

I just sell unpackaged trading goods at the black market vendor or is it worth keeping them around to "repackage"?

[restive roost]

Maybe its just me, but i call a game optimized if it looks good and runs well, if it looks like shit and runs well its not optimized, it just looks like shit.

This game is Alan Wake 2 path tracing levels of performance and doest look half as nice

[foggy dust]

My frametimes do be fine, though.

[kindred shoal]

I mean aln wake is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than this game lol

much much much smaller in scope and scale

[restive roost]

Cyberpunk 2077 then

[foggy dust]

Yeah this game uses so little vram I can prop up an LLM in the background to watch the game with me. That's one neat thing about it.

[karmic quest]

Cyberpunk 2077 is also alot smaller

[kindred shoal]

it is yes

they also had years of post launch work to fix it

and improve the visuals

[foggy dust]

Cyberpunk is super optimized.

[restive roost]

you guys are missing the point

those games have the same performance while path tracing

[foggy dust]

To the point where there's no way to fix the LOD pop in everywhere, and the 2D cars at a distance.

[karmic quest]

I won't say its optimized, its balanaced well to accomodate hardware accordingly to its standards.

[foggy dust]

Yeah because those games are tiny

[karmic quest]

This game hasn't done this imho

[faint bobcat]

they use SER and OOM which this POS doesnt becasue AyyyMD sponsor

[kindred shoal]

things are going to take a hit because of what the game is doing

you can be on one corner of the map and inspect a location 5000 meters away and it will load in 1 second and show you a real time render of that location

people that are in there, a fight if a fight is happening etc

did they need to do that? absolutely not

but they did lol

[karmic quest]

In Cyberpunk 2077 with RR and PT on with DLSS and FG I'd be maybe close to 60 if Im lucky

[kindred shoal]

yea i get a higher FPS in this game than CP2077 with path tracing I think

Id have to load it up to be sure

[stone comet]

2077 also looks infinitely better with PT tho 😭

[viscid wedge]

OK Tenebrum has to be the worst designed boss in history

[kindred shoal]

2077 looks real good with PT lol

[karmic quest]

Cyberpunks implementation of this tech is alot better so lets not compare this slop to it

[foggy dust]

That fight takes like 30 seconds?

You mean the science area "boss"?

[kindred shoal]

force palm him

just glide to him and palm

takes like 3 hits lol

[foggy dust]

Yeah 3 times

It's like the first boss in Elden Ring if you drop into the tutorial area. Rodrick or whatever.

[kindred shoal]

soldier of godrick lol

[viscid wedge]

sure, its over.. took two hits. but its not explained in any way. there is a tutorial describing a completely useless move

[kindred shoal]

hes not that easy

[foggy dust]

That's the one!

Yeah man. I fear him.

[viscid wedge]

I didn't say it was hard, I said it was terribly executed

[kindred shoal]

yea i dunno wtf they were on with that tootip

[karmic quest]

Have you explored the Hernand Snowy areas yet or no

[foggy dust]

Yeah this game wants you to read. I do not. Well I do when I have to google something. But I'm not breaking my immersion to read via menus about the 348932 systems in this game.

[viscid wedge]

beyond the little snow making its way up to this science area, no

[viscid wedge]

yeah after running around getting slammed around by seemingly unavoidable black rockets and that L1+R1 move doing nothing, I just googled it. killed him in two hits

[golden scaffold]

How do you use force healing?

I can't figure it out... It says L3...?

[foggy dust]

Same

[karmic quest]

I can heal my horse but I cannot heal myself

[stone comet]

on keyboard you just press TAB and it switches to it

[foggy dust]

Is this the area you were going to insinuate?

[karmic quest]

My palm is scamming myself

[stone comet]

you cant heal yourself with it

[golden scaffold]

Oh

[viscid wedge]

I didn't think you could heal yourself, yeah

[foggy dust]

You can heal your horse with it, though!

[stone comet]

yuhhh

[golden scaffold]

Or your companion...

[karmic quest]

Not that one.

[kindred shoal]

sword of antumbra?

[mortal wolf]

why is the title screen not centered...

[lucid thorn]

I'll make a note

[karmic quest]

There is some weird boss high up in the hernand hills that spawns black shadows and you have to light up all the candles I think around but they deal so much damage. 😭 @foggy dust

[stone comet]

bro the fucking boss wizards are so annoying man

i guess im just not far enough to do anything about them properly

[foggy dust]

F everything about that. Got the Frostwarden quest, went there. Dealt with the flying fudges, decided I didn't like turning to ice, jumped out the window and landed on a boss. With flying employees. Kills me a few times then yeets when I get him low enough. Did that once more, and then couldn't find him again.

[lucid thorn]

I was trying to find something unrelated but I just found out what the refinement costs are and what they do when you get them

[foggy dust]

Flying ones?

Use your lighter

L1 + R1, L1

[stone comet]

My what now

[foggy dust]

Your sword has a lighter mode.

[karmic quest]

I think its the one I was like " fuck that shit Im out " 🤣

[foggy dust]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lighter-flames

[stone comet]

That doesnt work on the bosses LOL

theyre perma fucking flying

[subtle nova]

how do you even ground them?

[karmic quest]

Cant you use your grasp or whatever to bring em down

[stone comet]

only thing I found so far is natures snare (the shield) and return projectiles to build up stun

[lucid thorn]

Has anybody found bloodstone in the Hernand region btw

[stone comet]

nah grasp doesnt work

[foggy dust]

Uhh it should be like regular flying enemies? L1+R1, then L1 to light and keep it on them?

[karmic quest]

Yeah

[stone comet]

Yeah the regulars arent the problem

the boss ones are

[karmic quest]

There's plenty

[lucid thorn]

D:

[stone comet]

thats why im going out of my way to say it's only the boss ones

[foggy dust]

Oh shit where? 👀

Gimme deets

wtf was that emoji LOL

[subtle nova]

yes, there are 2 spots at least, i'm trying not to use guides and find stuff myself

[stone comet]

Tower left of the P in pailune

[karmic quest]

Actually no, its slightly outside Hernand but it has good density of Bloodstone

[lucid thorn]

Same

[foggy dust]

Okay leaving my quest to check this out.

[stone comet]

then theres another one near the sea in delesyia

[karmic quest]

I think I got like 8 bloodstone from that spot

[lucid thorn]

What direction haha

[stone comet]

that ones the issues tbh

[karmic quest]

North from the main hernand city I guess

[lucid thorn]

Thanks

Oh I went up a little ways but I'll do more digging

[karmic quest]

Snowy mountains / high up I think has the best density

So its best to look for bloodstone there

[subtle nova]

||there is one right above Asylum across the river||

[foggy dust]

Going over there and dashing in the air. Think I just passed a giga cow below me... but no matter. I want to see this Harry Potter boss.

[lucid thorn]

That's a place? Haha I'll try to find it thanks

[spare quartz]

lets not be revisionist, even today amd drivers are ass compared to their FOSS cunterpart in linux

[modern bronze]

What is the purpose of LetThereBeMoreLight? I don't think I understand what it does or why I'd want it based on the description

[stone comet]

that one i managed to kill since its more of an enclosed space so should be doable without much invested

[subtle nova]

||i can't really remember how its called, its Asylum for mentally ill you ll go there for main quest early in the game||

[modern bronze]

What does AutoExposure do?

[lucid thorn]

Oooooooo

I know what you're talking about

[subtle nova]

yea

[foggy dust]

I just want to see about grounding them with the lighter. Oh and is it this tower?

[subtle nova]

just straight above it across the river

[lucid thorn]

Thanks I'll do some exploring

[mortal wolf]

mostly untested, psychov-14, recommended to set adaptation contrast 80

[karmic quest]

Omg

[foggy dust]

hotswappable, or do I have to restart the game? :p

[mortal wolf]

only devkit supports live hotswap

[foggy dust]

Ah sick that it's at least possible.

[modern bronze]

I feel like I'm going to be asking a bunch of dumb questions for the next 5 minutes lol. What's the difference between PsychoV11 and 14?

[foggy dust]

||3 more psychos||

[stone comet]

ya

[mortal wolf]

custom in/out system that will bump to game's requested exposure but in a perceptual way

[stone comet]

if you kill him + complete abyss you unlock fire+ice

[mortal wolf]

idk, seems okay for the first 2 minutes of the game, let's see how it holds up

will finally move my character

[rocky umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-the-office-memes-we-will-ask-the-questions-shut-up-gif-12334554600474508445

[mortal wolf]

if there were an achievement for "First steps" i still wouldn't have gotten it

[stone comet]

jesus

[mortal wolf]

generally, when i'm testing i'm going from save file to save file to test rough locations

[zenith plank]

some of the forests south west are good for testing contrast during the day

[lucid thorn]

Thank you for your sacrifice

[brittle egret]

the 5 achievements are shit I got by accident loading a friend's 100% save

0 hours of actual gameplay

[foggy dust]

Yeah, if I can figure out the tower first. Interesting.

[stone comet]

its ez good luck

[mortal wolf]

starfield was legit a month until i left the intro cave

[stone comet]

all that time for starfield

[foggy dust]

You missed nothing.

[stone comet]

my condolences

[foggy dust]

^

[mortal wolf]

i 100% it

[rocky umbra]

But to be fair - you didint wanna continue playing right? 😆 Its the same thing over again

[foggy dust]

Do you have a gofundme link for your mental health?

jk jk, we all have different tastes. :P

[mortal wolf]

i used the warp to anywhere about 30 hours in

[foggy dust]

I'd play it with DLSS5. Don't @ me

[mortal wolf]

but this is how i played starfield. i embrace the dark

[rocky umbra]

God damn, that looks pretty good tho

[modern bronze]

That looks like a good game, are you sure it was Starfield?

[foggy dust]

You just screenshotting midtones or are these HDR screenshots?

[mortal wolf]

hdr, basically was more photorgaphy than gameplay

[viscid wedge]

are you on a phone?

[rocky umbra]

But those loading screens give me the ick 😅

[vivid iris]

@mortal wolf I pushed some new stuff into the branch btw

[foggy dust]

Haha no but they're almost black on my discord

[viscid wedge]

might have hardware accel off. discord won't play nice with HDR PNG's

[modern bronze]

Don't want to spam and repeat myself so I'll just ask once more before I wander off- could someone explain the utility of LetThereBeMoreLight and AutoExposure?

[vivid iris]

good call on using naka rushton

[true dagger]

sick screenshots, wow

[vivid iris]

though idk if I used it the way you intended but yeah lol

[foggy dust]

Nah I don't disable hardware accel anywhere. But restarting Discord worked.

[karmic quest]

Starfield confused the shit out of me, like everyime I finished I was supposed to get different ending but I never got it after maxing out that gear.

[modern bronze]

Starfield confused the shit out of me, the writing was so abhorrent that I couldn't continue playing beyond the tutorial zone.

[crude marsh]

game looks light daytime at night, bad autoexposure, game uses autoexposure to fake lighting, without blasted intensity lights are dim, make light brighter

[mortal wolf]

 if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE != 0) {
    float3 ungraded_ap1 = _12.xyz;
    float3 ungraded_bt709 = renodx::color::bt709::from::AP1(ungraded_ap1);
    float3 graded_bt709 = ApplyDisplayCurvesAndSaturation(ungraded_bt709, true);

    float3 input_color = lerp(ungraded_bt709, graded_bt709, RENODX_COLOR_GRADE_STRENGTH);

    float histogram_mean = _exposure2.z;   // trimmed mean luminance
    float histogram_boost = _exposure0.x;  // final exposure gain
    float3 output_color = (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 2.f)
                              ? CustomPsychoV14(input_color / _21, histogram_mean, histogram_mean * _21)
                              : CustomTonemap(input_color);

    output_color = renodx::color::bt2020::from::BT709(output_color);
    output_color = renodx::color::pq::EncodeSafe(output_color, RENODX_DIFFUSE_WHITE_NITS);
    // output_color = renodx::color::srgb::EncodeSafe(output_color);
    __3__38__0__1__g_textureUAV[int2((uint)(SV_DispatchThreadID.x), (uint)(SV_DispatchThreadID.y))] = float4(output_color, _12.w);
  } else {

right now i have this, without hijacking the uav

[fresh field]

auto exposure turned on in reno makes nights actually dark instead of just a dim daytime like in vanilla. The more lights addon makes candles/fires emit more light to help compensate for it being darker

[modern bronze]

Ohhh, got it. I'll check that out thanks guys.

[fresh field]

if you use renos auto exposure, you should use the more light mod that lazorr made

you can also tune the auto exposure . it defaults at 50

[stone comet]

my pets literally got aura tho

[mossy gust]

do you want clamp max or dynamic for aae?

[modern bronze]

I haven't been able to play for a few days so I haven't been exposed to Reno's developments and wasn't aware of the feature. I was just updating stuff before I started again so that's why I'm asking questions that maybe would be answered if I had been using it. I appreciate the info.

[crude marsh]

oh this is nice

night is dark but lively at the same time

[jade magnet]

hey guys its had to track updates to the mod. Will you post a message here that a new version is uploaded or how do you do this?

[stone comet]

do we keep light mod for that?

[mortal wolf]

derp

[stone comet]

the new untested version that is

[jade magnet]

yeah

[crude marsh]

have an issue to report with v14, lemme take a video

[brazen coyote]

is now the best time to ask if I can adjust the auto-exposure's timing so I can make it faster?

[vivid iris]

Soon™

[brazen coyote]

Is that a "you can ask soon" or a "you'll get that soon"

[vivid iris]

it's a "it's already in the code we just aren't ready to put out a build yet"

[brazen coyote]

awesome!!

Thanks so much

[deft pulsar]

insane how Forge just straight up fixed the game's lighting with this mod

[mossy gust]

yeah, this new version looks really good

[ruby lark]

Should i use performance mode after applying all the settings

[dapper lake]

Just went to defaults other than AE and the rendering bit and only changed contrast adaption as suggested for a quick comparison on the psychov14 build

[vivid iris]

really curious to see how the tweaked auto exposure will look with the thing shortfuse added

[wispy crown]

The black levels look insanely crushed in the second picture.

[true dagger]

this looks really nice !

[cold tree]

wow

[mossy gust]

lights seem to kind of be pulsing a bit

[dapper lake]

only settings ive changed is adaption contrast to 80 like shortfuse suggested, but i agree

changing highlights has a HUGE change too

[crude marsh]

@mortal wolf happens with a light in the corner of the screen

[ruby tusk]

Bro that shit been bothering me since day one

[mossy gust]

yeah, noticed that with the lights

[lucid thorn]

Guys uh what are these flying enemies in bubbles 😭

[ruby tusk]

fuckin wizards

[lucid thorn]

Wtf do I do 😭 I'm assuming I'm not supposed to be here yet

There's like 9 of them rn

[foggy dust]

L1+R1,L1

[lucid thorn]

They hurt

[foggy dust]

And hold it on them

[mossy gust]

i think 80 for adapt contrast is a bit high, 70 looks better and doesn't crush as much

[true dagger]

Psycho V11 / Psycho V14 (w adapt contrast 80)

[lucid thorn]

Oh my god

Wish me luck

[stone comet]

try natures snare usually does well

[dapper lake]

50 vs 51 highlights on new build (adaptive set to 50 just to make highlights the only thing)

[viscid wedge]

I must have missed a new build 🙁

[foggy dust]

He posted it like 20 min ago

[crude marsh]

was also unrelated to autoexposure

[true dagger]

scroll up, shortfuse posted it

[true dagger]

its a test version tho i guess so thats why

[foggy dust]

And yeah that ^

[brazen coyote]

it's fun testing the vanguard of fixing a game this big

[mortal wolf]

i'm dependent on the logic for auto brightness. they're not smoothing over time. but i'll try to reproduce to see where it is in the code

[crude marsh]

I do really like the look of it though

[vivid iris]

forge said they're jittering the exposure

[deft pulsar]

80 adaptive contrast is a lot though

[crude marsh]

feels a lot more natural/pleasing to the eye

[vivid iris]

they do have a smoothing over time for exposure, I guess it's just not filtered well enough

[mossy gust]

dawn looks better than dawn before

[steady stirrup]

Yea looks to crushed in new version

[faint bobcat]

they jitter everything temporally because of how their atmosphere lighting works per frame

[true dagger]

tho here it looks kinda off

[faint bobcat]

the bloom is temporally jittered

which is why it shiommers

and adjusting auto exposure changes bloom values

which is why I am redoing them now per material

with alt auto exposure in mind

[vivid iris]

any exposure adjustments kinda need to happen in the auto exposure shader for it to look right, it's kinda weird.

maybe I should apply the exposure slider there actually lol

[deft pulsar]

but yeah idk what it is but it does look much better even though its slightly crushed

[mortal wolf]

you can lower it from 80, i think psychov11 is 60

[plain fractal]

Trying this now, looks promising

[mortal wolf]

but different exposure system

[vivid iris]

internally the sliders at 50 = 60/60 on contrast and sat for psychov-11

[golden scaffold]

Is there a way to apprehend outlaws that fight back without killing them?

[dapper lake]

killing the others can make them surrender i think

[mossy gust]

tackle them

[golden scaffold]

I couldn't

[golden scaffold]

Everyone else was dead and fled away who was left

[mossy gust]

hmm, i've been able to tackle all mine

[true dagger]

here i find V14 to pop a lot nicer and look a lot better, not sure if i have my second preset with V11 set up right, i just kept Auto Exposure at dynamic, and put Adaptation Contrast to 50 and obv changed the tonemapper

[golden scaffold]

I couldn't this one

[golden scaffold]

It Byllix I think? Some goblin

[mossy gust]

oh wait, i had to kill the goblin

[golden scaffold]

Yeah the goblin

[golden scaffold]

This is a special skill?

[golden scaffold]

Hmm yeah but I don't think I'm gonna spend an artifact just for some small silver bonus?

[subtle nova]

its in grapple

[crude marsh]

btw how does one slide

I have the slide 50m thing

[true dagger]

on controller u sprint and then u press the left stick again while sprinting

[subtle nova]

sprint fastests way then press crouch

[foggy dust]

On m/kb you might as well just learn vim to prepare yourself

Let's be real

[subtle nova]

there is mountain with long slop

you ll slide there naturally

[mortal wolf]

unborked contrast/saturation slider

[foggy dust]

yoink

[crude marsh]

I gave up on mouse and keyboard especially after Kal dropped the valve plug tech in here and I realized wireless works fine

too many key combinations lol

[mortal wolf]

i need another tweak for contrast slider

[subtle nova]

itsn't not like you need any of them unless you prefer some fightning style

[crude marsh]

well, idk i want to try and do "cool" combat stuff

with various combos

[subtle nova]

Max armed combat to 5/5 and you ll be able to switch weapons to 2handed mid combo

[dapper lake]

and unarmed if you have that as your secondary slot too

also unarmed level 4 i think lets you hit y Y and then x to do a grapple move

idk if theres other similar moves

that arent explicitly mentioned in unlock terms

[lucid thorn]

I got close I think

[foggy dust]

Just sad that dual wielding is so much stronger. Plus you get to put twice as many funky abyss thingamajigs to use.

[subtle nova]

i'm thinking i need to level up bow skills cause flying bosses is stupid af

[dapper lake]

to clarify you can do this while still using a weapon, but i never noticed it until after level 4. could be there from the start

[dapper lake]

not even touched dual weilding other than a specific instance where my 2h caused graphics bugs, ive been loving the spear/halberd moveset

[subtle nova]

how do you even dual wield

[dapper lake]

just swap your shield

either through radial or inv

[subtle nova]

how... it always swaps my right hand weapon

[viscid wedge]

More pleasing but a little crushed was accurate. V11 w/ 50 adaptive contrast vs. V14 w/ 80 adaptive contrast

[foggy dust]

One of my swords has crows coming out of it constantly for additional damage, and the other sends a shockwave. It's so good.

[subtle nova]

ffs this game made with gamepads in mind, many thanks

[normal abyss]

do you use any reshade shaders alongside renodx

[subtle nova]

that was so obvious

[foggy dust]

@viscid wedge with that one?

[faint bobcat]

Vanilla / New

forgor to showcase, screenspaced shadows now add more micro shadow detail

[mortal wolf]

no

well, lilium's for analysis

[viscid wedge]

yes

[deft pulsar]

@mortal wolf the R3 spell with concentration is broken with this addon

[worn ibex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/s/tfJLen1sfN

[deft pulsar]

my game is in italian idk how you call it

[worn ibex]

Saturation maxing

[foggy dust]

Btw screenspace shadows have an allocation. Look bottom right. That part which is closer to you lost details.

[deft pulsar]

this one

[normal abyss]

cool what about mods?

[faint bobcat]

I added screen edge fade

[foggy dust]

Oh!

[faint bobcat]

becasue base shadows are digusting

on the edge

theres a bunch of artefacts

we have to cope with screenspace

[deft pulsar]

works when switching back to psycho v-11

[mossy gust]

yeah, i'm getting some pretty intense flashing with this

[foggy dust]

Alright gotcha. I thought you had mistaken some setting for pushing the resolution out. Have the same issue with other games when taking over their dx for improving shadows.

Wish RTX Remix was easier and worked on DX12.

I regret trying to open "character" in the unpacker.

[deft pulsar]

WTF HAPPENED

[kindred shoal]

5000 peak nits

[foggy dust]

Damn that a screenshot from the new Samsung?

[foggy dust]

[deft pulsar]

happens when switching to clamp max

lmao

[mossy gust]

I'm getting the same thing at times

[foggy dust]

I disabled Reshade on Nexusmods, but still some Chatgippity reshade mods pop up. So annoying

[plain fractal]

Huge improvement, I love how it looks now

[sleek jewel]

Without touching anything, the RenoDX tab disappeared from one hour to the next and it’s no longer active. The game hasn’t been updated. Am I the only one this has happened to?

[mortal wolf]

60 seems more like psychov11

[deft pulsar]

antivirus

[mortal wolf]

antivirus ate it

[deft pulsar]

add game folder to exceptions

[mortal wolf]

nom nom

[ruby lark]

Need that moon bigger 🎑

[plain fractal]

But I think 80 adaptive contrast is a bit much, maybe 70 is more suitable?

[foggy dust]

Oh I was late

What the others said

[sleek jewel]

Damn, i'll test it. Thanks guys! You're awesome. ❤️

[plain fractal]

But maybe my eyes need to adapt from using psychov11

[mortal wolf]

@vivid iris i don't know where the game thinks film grain should go, but where it is. it's wrong

[lucid thorn]

Guys I don't think I'm very good at this haha

[mortal wolf]

also, had to crank it to 250 to even see it

[faint bobcat]

Jon solve that issue I thought

previous you had to crank

now it appear at around 40% for me

I use 65% atm

[mortal wolf]

it should be after tonemap

because exposure screws things up

math ain't mathing

[ruby lark]

I feel like most every monitor is different, won't we have all have different settings anyways

[faint bobcat]

the game isnt gaming either

If only we could solve LODs and other shenanigans shader side

dumbass CPU and engine has to get in the way

[mortal wolf]

film grain at 250

btw i moved, but cabin for another time

[crude marsh]

I could try moving filmgrain

[mortal wolf]

should be right before final output

[plain fractal]

How good is the history of pearl abyss fixing things in their games?

[mortal wolf]

after dlss and whatever, though idk if fg will like it

[crude marsh]

they have a bunch of before/after upscale and FG flags too

[mortal wolf]

maybe it's because i'm on fg

[true dagger]

someone here said that ppl complain about the LODs in BDO for years

[faint bobcat]

Zero

[crude marsh]

Hey they turned off tiling on raymarch local lights

[faint bobcat]

after we figured out the issue

[lucid thorn]

Alrigjt I give up on this area, she's cooked I got no clue what to do 😂

[jade spruce]

they added FSR1 to BDO over a year after it was released and never added DLSS.

[foggy dust]

What on earth is this ugly yellow light?

Oh it's the lantern

[plain fractal]

That sounds good

[kindred shoal]

when you say adaptation contrast you mean just the contrast slider right?

[viscid wedge]

V14, 70 adaptive contrast, dynamic AE

[kindred shoal]

oh oh ok i see it at the bottom

[mortal wolf]

that's already outdated

[manic finch]

what alternative auto exposure is better clamp max or dynamic

[kindred shoal]

we move fast in here boys

[foggy dust]

Brother stop making them every 5 minutes. Give me time to boot up the game.

Selfie from ShortFuse

true and real, trust

[mortal wolf]

fixed highlights/contrast

[viscid wedge]

omg (i love it)

[true dagger]

so keep at default values now?

[mortal wolf]

adaptation contrast 60 is basically pyschov11

[deft pulsar]

man could probably fix my academic record at this pace ngl

[true dagger]

oh i meant for v14

[kindred shoal]

gimmie the settings I should play on and I can give some feedback cause im actively playing right now

gonna be going through a lot of stuff

[foggy dust]

I'm still loading in after installing the new one.

[viscid wedge]

i'm just playing with different ones

[foggy dust]

The long loading is bah. But if you use Damiane it's instant? ||I don't have her available yet as I'm not in ch8 yet.||

[true dagger]

you should unlock her pretty early

[foggy dust]

||She disapears between 4 and 8||

Spoiler

obv

[true dagger]

oh lol

[lucid thorn]

Thanks for this btw it does work but unfortunately I'm not skilled enough for this area 😂

[foggy dust]

And I'm too busy mucking around with your stuffs and wondering why on earth @viscid wedge has moon disk size at 9.6x

[foggy dust]

Yeah. Use it to light things on fire as well. You can even cook raw meat on the floor with it. I'm not even joking about that last one.

[deft pulsar]

so should we use clamp max or dynamic

[lucid thorn]

I do that!

[brazen coyote]

dammit I messed something up, it won't load into reshade anymore but the file is still there and I have it excepted from defender... time to reinstall reshade I guess

[viscid wedge]

why not??

[ruby lark]

Does using this reset all the settings

[lucid thorn]

This area has like a billion torches and like 10 flying guys at all times

[mortal wolf]

screenshot test (to check for grain)

[manic valve]

I noticed the larger moon disk seems to cast more light?

[lucid thorn]

Honestly I'm amazed my frames are fine

[foggy dust]

I'd tell you why if it was night time ingame atm. I'm sure 9.6x is about the easter-egg moon from Death Stranding 2 sized. Haha.

[mortal wolf]

yeah i don't see any grain, this is at 100

[kindred shoal]

brother i am trying duo for the first time and got no idea wtf is hapening lol

[viscid wedge]

#1469072401450012774 message its that big

[foggy dust]

Didn't he say 250? Though I can't unlock the slider to go above 100 myself.

[mortal wolf]

press tab

and he is me

[foggy dust]

Oh I like that. Fantasy styled

Oh I thought it might've been Forge.

I went too far

(i miss shooting analog tbf)

[dapper lake]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tophermcgee3-star-wars-more-kylo-ren-OsfVaOer7N2265YTRF

[teal iron]

Has it been reported that the newest test version PsychoV-14 seems to break when looking at fire close up? It's happening to me at night, with HDR on, if that helps

[true dagger]

i see the film grain even at 45

[viscid wedge]

ok unless things keep changing again i'm liking v14, adaptive contrast 70 and dynamic AE

[fluid prism]

I've installed the reshade addon and I get this flickering with HDR turned on it gets very aggressiv does anyone know how to fix that?

[tame shale]

Do I have to adjust in-game HDR settings from default when using the addon?

[foggy dust]

Where size slider, though? And grain sharpness? I want big chunks that make things look like it was smeared in vaseline. I want big blooms. Anamorphic too.

(jk pls dont)

[dapper lake]

the black bars? are you using DLAA

[viscid wedge]

it says what to do in the pins

[mortal wolf]

FG On or Off?

[lucid thorn]

Before I leave here, anybody do anything with torches on the mountain 😂

[foggy dust]

Game's HDR is broken with DLAA enabled.

[true dagger]

FG on

[mortal wolf]

also, i've regressed. i'm back to standing at the first point

[fluid prism]

yes I use DLAA

[dapper lake]

im still raging that the only time it went away was 120% resolution lol

[foggy dust]

Don't earn any achievements now.

[rancid jackal]

so LetThereBeMoreLight still isn't enough for dark indoors. I guess it's just something we gotta accept at this point?

[fluid prism]

I turned it off it's gone now thanks

[sleek jewel]

Am I the only one this happens to? I see “pixelated edges” around certain objects and characters. I haven't seen anyone else complaining about this, or is it just “the price you pay” for use reshading?

[ruby lark]

Whats your bloom strength at

[foggy dust]

Raytracing off?

I see them only with Raytracing off. Idk why.

[sleek jewel]

I've all cinematic and raytracing ON

[viscid wedge]

default (100)

[foggy dust]

Could you take a screenshot?

[sleek jewel]

When recording on Windows, my whole screen gets brighter than it should, but can be noticeable in the GIF

https://gyazo.com/054588de694df86a62478545edd5d0ab

[tame shale]

It doesn’t say whether or not I adjust the in-game HDR settings, though.

[smoky brook]

Do we recommend film grain with FG because I've had some poor experiences with that before

[foggy dust]

Yeah that's what I saw with Raytracing off. Weird. Double check that ray reconstruction is enabled maybe? :s

[jade magnet]

for anyone experiencing blurry moving textures (especially foliage) - go to options and swith to DLAA and then back to the preset you are playing on. This makes things clear and sharp. I do this every time I launch the game. I am playing on DLSS 4.0 quality FG2, RR

[viscid wedge]

the only in game setting to touch is UI brightness

[rocky umbra]

Yap - the default is too low

[tame shale]

Thanks

[smoky brook]

Perceptual auto-exposure will fix me

[true dagger]

I notice that this only happens when the Adaptation Contrast slider is higher

[sleek jewel]

It's fixed with Ray Reconstruction ON, lol.

Idk if it's a solution but...

Thanks for the help 😄

[jade magnet]

is there a way to reload shaders for reno?

[foggy dust]

Shortfuse too quiet. Incoming new files for me to reboot for.

[teal iron]

Happens to me with it at default 50 when using psychoV-14

[true dagger]

for me only when i start turning the slider to about 58+ on v14, the more the more intense the flicker gets

[strong palm]

Behold: Crimson Desert witch supremacy.

[rich crane]

Do I just add these new addon64 files to the game folder?

[jade magnet]

even with auto exposure ceiling on 0 this is waaaay too much difference IMO... All is perfect apart this exposure difference between dark and bright areas

[foggy dust]

what in the bdo?

[stone comet]

hows the new version testing goin

[foggy dust]

It's uhh

Interesting

Oh boy it's flickering too yikes.

[desert fox]

What's recommended settings for this. You say Adaptation Contrast 70, and what about the AE, Dynamic/Clamp Max, and Dark Power?

[brazen coyote]

admittedly I can't get v14 in a place I like

[static crag]

oh my god it looks so good 😍

[viscid wedge]

uh

[plain fractal]

@mortal wolf Is this a known Issue? Using the latest Version

[brazen coyote]

AAHHH

[foggy dust]

Epilepsy warning^

[brazen coyote]

I don't even have epilepsy but that gave it to me

[normal abyss]

are you playing with ray reconstruction

[manic finch]

yeah it's the same as having a fire at the edge from what lazor posted

[safe condor]

yo guys im getting trojan warning from defender when downloading the latest snapshot, is this just Windows bullshit ?

[plain fractal]

Yes, RR + FG

[static crag]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-gif-17354014817438320854

[mortal wolf]

yes

[normal abyss]

how many fps do you get

[brazen coyote]

just windows bullshit

[safe condor]

thx

[manic valve]

RR doesn't use DLSS 4.0, it has its own model. So you can put whatever DLSS you want and it doesn't make a difference when RR is on

[plain fractal]

About 120-130 with FG x3 on DLSS 4.5 Quality. (RTX 5070ti )

[normal abyss]

wtf im on 120 perfomance mode 4x

[jade magnet]

well i tested all options and yes it makes a difference

[plain fractal]

Limited via RTSS using Reflex latency markers

[normal abyss]

i knew there was something wrong

[ember tulip]

test version looks great

[normal abyss]

and i have the same card as you

[ember tulip]

the dynamic exposure is awesome

[plain fractal]

Which CPU?

[mortal wolf]

off / grain / grain+dlssfg

[normal abyss]

r7800x3d

[manic valve]

I mean you can literally turn on DLSS overlays and see what version it's using... if it's Preset D/E, it's RR.

[mortal wolf]

also, grain is broken in renodx core, fixing

[foggy dust]

Could be CPU diff, maybe he has XMP enabled and you don't, etc etc.

[plain fractal]

I just upgraded to an 9850x3d a week ago, but the 7800x3d sohuld be enough (I think?)

[mortal wolf]

uh, probably should have recorded it. dlssfg has wobbly effect on grain

[normal abyss]

got it on its only a problem for me in this game

all max settings?

[foggy dust]

Resolution, settings, whatever else.

[normal abyss]

im pissed this is unplayable with ray reconstruction

[kindred shoal]

uplay able? bad fps?

[viscid wedge]

I'm at probably 50 hours with RR on, whats the issue?

[frozen thistle]

jon jon jon ty for thinking sdr w jon

[foggy dust]

And don't bother using FG if your base fps isn't 50+ (and I mean base WHILE fg is enabled, not disabled -- steam overlay shows you), unless you don't mind some nasty artifacts around your character.

[plain fractal]

Im on 1440p btw

[normal abyss]

yeah could explain it i am on 4k but perfomance mode 30 fps base

[safe condor]

so whats the right way , win 11 hdr of and in game on or do you guys have win 11 hdr always on ?

[foggy dust]

That still isn't right. I get 80 without FG at 4k dldsr everything maxed. 5090, but that's almost triple yours.

[viscid wedge]

i'm at 4K and curretly on balanced. I just checked with ReLimiter and in this one area my base is hitting 45. with FG though on controller it still feels and looks great

[mortal wolf]

always

[foggy dust]

Win HDR off greys out HDR ingame, no?

[lime crater]

got a 5090, 4k, quality dlss . 3x fg and mostly get 140-160fps depending on where I am

[manic valve]

Win 11 HDR on, no Auto HDR, use HDR Calibration tool from Windows Store

[foggy dust]

^ that's the way

[viscid wedge]

i need mfg

though I can't imagine my experience would change much from the 90-100 post 2xfg i'm getting now

[manic valve]

depends on your monitor hz

at 144 hz, 2x is more than enough

[stone comet]

finally HDR

[foggy dust]

It's quite, QUITE a bit smoother at 4x if you stroll with quality at 1440p. At least on my 480Hz

[manic valve]

for those 240+hz things, MFG is nice

[foggy dust]

Yeah everything gets super smooth

[foggy dust]

Damn latest 5k nit samsung

[viscid wedge]

Yeah i'm on a C2, 120Hz. C6 I think will be my next move at 165hz.

[foggy dust]

You won't notice a difference other than anything at 30 or 60fps (videos) will have a bit of a stutter when you run at 165. :P

I ran my old Asus 165 at 120 because of that.

4x at 1440p quality does eat fps down to 65 base. Which is just about enough to have no artifacting and extreme smoothness.

[gleaming marlin]

Yeah at that time the game turns into kings field on PS1 lighting. It’s really bad.

[foggy dust]

fps at no fg for comparison

[safe condor]

dude thats night and day difference with this reshade

[viscid wedge]

Hm, not sure if thats accurate in my personal experience but alright

[safe condor]

Thanks man

[foggy dust]

30x4 = 120. x5 = 150. x6 = 180

[viscid wedge]

I'm not talking about math, i'm talking about what you see or don't see with your eyes. I have a 1440p 165Hz side panel right here and its fine.

[foggy dust]

So throughout a second, in a video that's 30 or a multiple of that, there will be 15 frames missing randomly inserted in there.

Yeah it won't be noticable, but it'll still be there. 165 is just odd.

Any reason to increase ui brightness btw?

[shut badge]

man I wish I could make use of mfg, but its useless if your screens refresh rate is 120

[foggy dust]

Nvidia did show off adaptive fg so you can set an fps to reach, like how Lossless Scaling app does it.

Then again, they showed off Reflex 2 a while ago and it still isn't out.

[plain fractal]

Why would they be missing? Also there is VRR

[dapper lake]

in the demo it looked like it was still only full integers unlike lossless. I could be misremembering though

[rocky umbra]

Any news on the upscaling modes ? 🤞

[dapper lake]

but supposedly it wasnt noticeable still so

[foggy dust]

I'd do a quick recording with my capture card since that's a video feed to better explain (if I capture something at 50fps but set the capture card at 60hz it will hold a frame at a consistent timing compared to what you'd normally see).

But when things don't factor together, there will be random frames held for X milliseconds to fill out your screens refreshrate. But as you mentioned, VRR.

[restive roost]

i think youre right, wich means we will be sacrificing base framerate to keep a consistent target

[foggy dust]

Ah I can't remember. You may be right. Lossless is neat, though. I watch, ehh, a certain car sports with friends, and I strip HDCP. Took me a while to figure out why it was stuttery even with lossless scaling to bump it to 120 for myself. Card was at 4k60, while the show was 50Hz. But now with lossless I can enjoy cars go 350kph smoothly.

[dapper lake]

the issue for me would be if the reports arent true going from 2x to 3x etc could be pretty noticeable in game

[foggy dust]

[dapper lake]

aye lossless is great, between it and smooth motion older games can be a lot more playable for me

[foggy dust]

YEah enabling FG you do lose a bit of base fps. More so when you try x3 and x4. As long as you get 50+ at whatever xY you set you should be basically artifact free. At least free enough.

[foggy dust]

Yeah, man. Played seamless coop Elden Ring at 120fps thanks to that. So good and smooth.

[dapper lake]

i want to play elden ring coop but its unplayable without some of the fixes that are only available in offline mode sadly

[rocky umbra]

lossless scaling is pretty good for what it does but the artifacts stil need refining. Its pretty good though in its current form

[dapper lake]

hdr and borderless fix etc

[foggy dust]

Unplayable? D: Whaat? I played it on release with a 3080 just fine.

[dapper lake]

it varies game to game a lot for lossless

[foggy dust]

Oh the HDR implementation in that game is

[dapper lake]

hdr and borderless dont work lmao

i dont mean ACTUALLY unplayable my bad

[ebon parcel]

@vivid iris please give me hope, are there any chances to remove VIGNETTE with your addon? it looks horrible, like blacking half of the screen.

[rocky umbra]

I use lossless in mpv for 100 hz viewing - absolutely better than 24 imo.

[dapper lake]

just a "well i cba with this"

[foggy dust]

I did it for the lulz while rewatching some Smallville. Soap opera effect is real. Prefer it for sports tbh. :P

[dapper lake]

it seems to benefit HUGELY from overhead too vs smooth motion or normal frame gen

[plain fractal]

Hmm ok but are you sure that this would apply to monitors as well? To my understanding your GPU would be outputting 60 FPS for example. And if your monitor would have a refresh rate of 165, it would refresh 165 times per second, so its higher than your output. Why would there be 15 frames missing? There are also things like VRR, Gsync etc. which do different things but also solve problems like tearing etc.

[foggy dust]

It should. Not with VRR, though.

[rocky umbra]

wdym by overhead? 🤔

[modest hatch]

It seems like everywhere on this server people are hating on every game’s HDR implementation , is it just bad everywhere ?

[dapper lake]

having extra gpu headroom - artifacting and general frame time stability etc is much better below 90% GPU usage, i think lossless themselves recommend 80%

[rocky umbra]

oh ok, i use a 9070xt - ive never actually checked how much gpu usage 🤔

[brazen coyote]

Yes! It is! (It's mostly subjective)

[dapper lake]

ive never bothered with it much myself, but it can have a huge impact

afaik AMD scale better w lossless than nvidia anyway but i could be wrong on that

[manic valve]

Yes. Most developers are tuning HDR for garbage low nits screens, consoles, and trying to find a balance for everyone. Or don't know how to do HDR.

[foggy dust]

It has to be multiple. So your display is 165. Video is 30. That's x5.5. So half a second has to be held throughout that second. I don't think it's noticable directly in windows, I can check as I have my 165 as a second monitor so gimme a min.

It IS however super noticable with capture cards since that will just feed you the frames as they come and then just hold the last incoming frame from 50 to 60. At least the Elgato ones do. Or it might just be my HDCP stripper. But I now run it at 1080x50 as that's the only EDID I can clone at 50. Regardless, this might be better answered via some rtings or anandtech article.

[dapper lake]

question for some one more well versed than me - I always heard folk claim HDR 400 is "basically not hdr"

Are HDR 400 and TrueBlack HDR400 the same and is that outlook on it correct? I find i switch between peak hdr and true black for a few game personally

[manic valve]

400 nits is pretty dim for HDR I think is what people are talking about

[dapper lake]

is it not also recommended to cap below refresh too? ICR the value but im on 345hz (Max i can get with DSC off in 10bit colour) but it worked out at 311 as my cap

[foggy dust]

HDR 400 is more than enough for me. I run my monitor at 20 - 30 brightness. Only if the sun hits my face will I bump it to 50. In HDR the brightness is at 100 and some spots are near my threshold for getting a damn migraine. TV upstairs is 1200 nits. Only saving grace there is I'm far away from it.

[manic valve]

Yes

Reflex will automatically cap IIRC

[foggy dust]

Blurbusters has info for that, but if you run Gsync and Reflex+boost (and vsync?) it should cap at the correct % automagically for lowest input latency and whatnot.

[dapper lake]

honestly ive only recently bothered doing it so i havent checked i thought it was boost only

[foggy dust]

It's only boost

Not reflex on

[restive roost]

ultra low latency caps as well for games without reflex

[manic valve]

FPS Cap formula is:

Refresh - (Refresh x Refresh / 4096) = FPS Cap

this is the formula Reflex uses

[foggy dust]

^

Correct

[manic valve]

So just plug your numbers in there and that's what you should cap at

[dapper lake]

i do wonder where the value stands for high fps games - in OW i can max it at 600 or whatever the engine limit is there so is it even worth going down to refresh input lag wise?

[foggy dust]

Nah just run open.

[dapper lake]

so its really only when bordering then?

[restive roost]

you just cap below if using vsync

[dapper lake]

or below with spikes bringing you above occasionally?

[manic valve]

I would cap it to save power and heat personally, but I think CS2 guys run way above refresh

for the response

[foggy dust]

Mainly if your fps is incapable of consistently keeping your frames above your max refreshrate.

[dapper lake]

nah i mean is the input lag of gsyn and correct fps limit etc better than a steady 600

[dapper lake]

gotcha thats what i wasnt sure about lmao

[brazen coyote]

I've never seen gsync cause input lag

[dapper lake]

the benefits of the correct setup i mean

not it causing it

ie

[foggy dust]

Nah at 600 I would just keep it open unless you notice screen tearing

[brazen coyote]

ah

[dapper lake]

vsync +gsync+reflex and correct fps limit vs reflex and double the fps consistently lmao

[foggy dust]

And remember, you have to enable vsync together with gsync and reflex

[restive roost]

you either cap and vsyng to use VRR or leave it uncapped and let it tear with vrr disabled

[viscid wedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1lokih2/putting_misconceptions_about_optimal_fps_caps/

[lilac geyser]

has yesterdays reno update made anyone else crash

just straight to desktop

[dapper lake]

im ngl since i got my OLED i havent been able to even tell if gsync is on or not

maybe just too used to it

[viscid wedge]

I turned on GSync on my old PG348Q back in 2016 and have been using it since across 3 displays. Its just normal.

[foggy dust]

If you don't have that one singular oled monitor that has an actual Gsync module, then with gsync you'll have vrr flicker. And lifted blacks/gamma (unsure if the module fixes this one).

[dapper lake]

yep, first was pg278q for me and i was blown away by it and the higher refresh despite the horrible colours

[foggy dust]

I can't remember which one has the module, but it's only that 1. Rest of us plebs have to suffer the ugliness.

[viscid wedge]

VRR flicker only when FPS fluctuates highly in very dark scences. in 3 years of GSync OLED gaming I've only ever noticed it in the Stalker 2 loading screen. massively overblown "issue".

[dapper lake]

oo didnt know about the gamma issue knew about the vrr flicker

[viscid wedge]

And certainly no lifted blacks/gamma, that would be a deal breaker

[faint bobcat]

So geezers

who is ready

[foggy dust]

ME

[dapper lake]

VRR flicker ive only had in monster hunter world

[brazen coyote]

:O

[dapper lake]

YESSIR

[restive roost]

ME

[faint bobcat]

oh wait

[manic finch]

[faint bobcat]

I need to do ninja build

[dapper lake]

no

[faint bobcat]

becaus anti birus

[dapper lake]

🙁

[brazen coyote]

that's fine I am mid-cutscene lol

[restive roost]

Blueballing us like this

[true dagger]

just name the build Red Sahara

[viscid wedge]

will this be based on the like 2-3 builds ShortFuse already put out tonight lmao

[dapper lake]

frame gen reshade flicker is my real enemy. RenoDX in darktide is cursed with it

[plain fractal]

[foggy dust]

I'll toss on gsync and see if things are fine in this game with it.

[lilac geyser]

what we ready fo

[foggy dust]

CS2 is horrible with it.

[brazen coyote]

Curious if the smart folks here can educate me: I have a reshade called Clarity2 that sharpens up some of DLSS's blur but it also causes a moire effect on any surface, near or far, that has any sort of consistent flatness to the texture or lighting. Is this effect called something (other than moire) and how would I fix it while keeping Clarity2 on? Feel free to tell me "take it to a reshade discord" but folks here seem pretty smart ;)

[foggy dust]

It's just called moire

[crisp compass]

is there anything we can do about dlaa hdr bug yet

[dapper lake]

when i played cs2 again just bc high refresh oledit was 50/50 getting it to work but that was i think due to my dodgy CRU

[lilac geyser]

what bug?

[dapper lake]

i got it to go away by running 120% render res in config but thats it

[restive roost]

black bar flicker at the top

[true dagger]

its a 50 series only bug, no issues on my 4090 DLAA+HDR but i dont play on it anyway i just tested it

[dapper lake]

seemingly a complete fluke where no other res it dissapeared

[lilac geyser]

oh my friend had that. thats weird, i dont have that issue

[crisp compass]

The top half of screen flickers constantly especially like the top inch

[dapper lake]

i tried 80-120% 120% was the only without it

[foggy dust]

Yeah play DLDSR to 4k with dlss at performance for an even better looking game and at higher performance than 1440p dlaa. Voila.

And no hdr bug

[crisp compass]

yep saw itwas 50 series only :(

[lilac geyser]

that makes complete sense, im on a 4080 and my friend a 5070ti

[true dagger]

the performance sucks too much for me to use DLDSR on UW1440p

[plain fractal]

[dapper lake]

some 40 series too, 4090 guy said he had it

[foggy dust]

Well it's for anyone that can run 1440p DLAA but has that hdr issue. It runs better than 1440p dlaa, and cleaner image. 🙃

[crisp compass]

Been using RTX HDR and have reno installed which i guess defaults to sdr mode. not sure what issues that can cause, but im enjoying the game

[plain fractal]

Same, I also get weird stuttering when using DLDSR

[true dagger]

well DLAA for me runs at about 60-70fps after FG, so base is very low and feels pretty bad, i tried 2.25x DLDSR, looks great, just latency is not something i can accept

[faint bobcat]

Fuck off

the build failed

[dapper lake]

You should be using a cap like this with Gsync + Vsync on even in eSports titles like CS and Valorant if you can’t hit ≥500 FPS. Valve officially recommends Gsync + Vsync + Reflex for CS2.
Brilliant thats what i was looking to find out lmao, where the limit lied as a general ish rule

[glad vessel]

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

[plain fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

[lilac geyser]

what do it add

[faint bobcat]

My slop code

[foggy dust]

Rust rewrite

[crisp compass]

Yeah 4k DLAA is a no go for me on 5090 too

[plain fractal]

Everything

[foggy dust]

:4head:

[faint bobcat]

let me fix

[mortal wolf]

[dapper lake]

Turn off RTX HDR, use in game HDR on default settings and use reno

[lilac geyser]

we love slop code

[crisp compass]

The issue is DLAA + HDR on 50 series causing a bug

[true dagger]

do not use RTX HDR if reno is available 😭

[plain fractal]

I love a new slop build for my new slop game (technical not gameplay)

[dapper lake]

Id just choose quality over RTX HDR tbh

[true dagger]

just drop down to DLSS quality or use DLDSR, thats what i'd do in ur case

[foggy dust]

DLAA

[crisp compass]

I tried this but it wasnt close, its a huge difference on dlaa at 1440p

[foggy dust]

DLDSR 4k + dlss perf

Try to find image quality diff. But higher fps, thus more objects loaded in (yes they cull if you drop below 60 base fps)

[true dagger]

then just use 2.25x downscaled to 1440p at like DLSS Performance

[plain fractal]

What????

[dapper lake]

wait youre playing 1440p? or 4k? im lost now you said you couldnt do 4k dlaa earlier

[worldly vapor]

DLAA looks alot more detailed

[foggy dust]

And no hdr bug this way.

[foggy dust]

eh?

[worldly vapor]

oh wait

dldsr one*

with dlss

[crisp compass]

my pc is on casters and i bring it into the home theater for some games 😆

[foggy dust]

Yeah

And it runs at 70 base fps vs 58 in that scene for me. So I could toss in 2x fg and still have base fps at around 60 for a nice 120 fps without artifacts. And HDR + Reno with no black flickering at the top.

[worldly vapor]

yeah some games benefit quite alot from DLDSR + dlss

seems like CD is one of them

[dapper lake]

if youve got a 5090 try 120% render res dlaa it might not work for you but its the ONLY time i didnt have DLAA flicker just cant run it on a 5080

"C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Pearl Abyss\CD\save\user_engine_option_save.xml"

If you switch to 4k DLDSR a line will appear referring to viewport size, change it to this

<OptionInt2Vector Name="_viewportSize" _value="2804 1577">

Honestly if anything i want to know if it fixes black bar flicker for you too

[foggy dust]

I just find it hilarious that little tree/bush disappeared with DLAA.

[jade magnet]

@foggy dust wait... So if I have the game capped in rivatuner at 120 fps and I am using in game framegen, then even if I drop 1 fps, my objects are cut???

[foggy dust]

No just some weird objects nearby get removed below 60.

Unless it's a mip bias issue they have

[lilac urchin]

should i turn auto exposure with psyco 14? im confused ahaha

[crisp compass]

with hdr on?

[dapper lake]

yep

[manic valve]

mine too lmao

[faint bobcat]

Desertering Crimsoning: Sixth? or is it Seven

• Fixed stuff
• Added stuff
• Fixed stuff for the added stuff
• Non RR plebs can enjoy local light sources having hue correction now
• Alt bloom to fix shimmering/flickering due to base game temporal jitter + BLOOOMiness slider + made to work with Alt Auto Exposure
• Modified contact screenspace shadows with edge fade, micro details
• Grass/foliage stuff (WIP) probably still space for improvement
• Combined all the previous BRDF, specular AA, diffraction and so on into one "Material section"
• Added SSDM on/off toggle (Screenspace Displacement Mapping)
• Can't remember the rest

[manic valve]

Buwhoa

[manic valve]

Time to start testing

[foggy dust]

Fixed stuff
Added stuff
Fixed stuff for the added stuff
Stop stalking my github

[dapper lake]

no guarantee though - i dont know anything about coding games but it makes NO SENSE that its an actual fix, just worked for me

[crisp compass]

I wll try it rn

[foggy dust]

Missing the "WHY" commit

[manic finch]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-farley-shades-shocked-shock-shook-gif-8293119

[crisp compass]

nice tming

[ruby tusk]

W Forge

[foggy dust]

And people dare tell us to squash commits and shit. Nah, they tell a story.

[plain fractal]

Excited to see the changes after the piss cum shit commit

[manic valve]

Being in this Discord channel for the newest CD Renodx drops is like being a crackhead and moving next to a meth lab

[plain fractal]

Stuff also sounds like it could be huge

[foggy dust]

Not sure if you guys also deal in the installer app itself, but this was super confusing the first time. I now know I don't have to rename and remove stuff.

[dapper lake]

damn bro it crashed

[jade magnet]

DO you guys also get constant light source pop in at night ?

[dapper lake]

ye cant launch with new version

[crisp compass]

so ur playing w 4k dsr enabled? and are selecting that in-game or the custom res should be shown?

[low crane]

https://klipy.com/gifs/birdman-ready-1

[dapper lake]

So turn 4k dldsr on in game and select it, thats just a prerequisite to make the line you need to edit appear

[lilac urchin]

me neither

[lilac geyser]

r u using dlss 4 or 4.5

[abstract hawk]

New drops are live

https://www.twitch.tv/streamerhouse

[foggy dust]

We're talking about 1440p monitors. We can use x2.25 DLDSR to upsample to 4k. We can then run 4k stuff at higher performance than a proper 4k monitor (but obviously we don't have the actual resolution so we still won't have as nice of a monitor).

[faint bobcat]

Nice

I shipped a zip bomb

yh I dunno

skill issue

[true dagger]

xD

[faint bobcat]

redo your shader cache

[plain fractal]

How?

[dapper lake]

He just really wants to do DLAA and i really wanna see if the 120% render works for other people as it might mean something (god if i know what) for fixing it

[crisp compass]

context man😭

[foggy dust]

mov etc,[rax+38]

[dapper lake]

you what

[foggy dust]

3 hours?!

Jesus christ

[abstract hawk]

Just leave it playing in background.

[kindred shoal]

game wont launch now

[dapper lake]

bro what is that server tag LMAO

[low crane]

https://klipy.com/gifs/james-franco-wait-what-1

[plain fractal]

??

[ebon parcel]

@faint bobcat please give me hope, are there any chances to add removing VIGNETTE to your addon? it looks horrible, like blacking half of the screen.

[mortal wolf]

i'm extremely tempted to align this title screen

[shut badge]

same, how do I clear cache? might fix it

[foggy dust]

Holy shit stop quoting me

I also don't know what Forge meant. I just posted some random assembly to be as obscure haha.

[mortal wolf]

why doesn't the flash of light go from the middle of the little circle thing? unless it's a video...

[dapper lake]

Holy shit stop quoting me

[faint bobcat]

HDR output as well

[plain fractal]

Ok 👍

[faint bobcat]

also the banding

[kindred shoal]

its defa video

[faint bobcat]

I did RTV upgrades

but it was linear for some reason

[low crane]

How do we clear the games cache?

[mortal wolf]

now i wonder if it's in the correct colorspace/decoding

[faint bobcat]

the game has vignette?

[ionic parcel]

purged shader cache but it wont launch with this build 🙁

[faint bobcat]

I didnt notice

wtf

[dapper lake]

same

[faint bobcat]

why are you lot CTDijng

[ebon parcel]

of course it does, like every console port nowadays

[manic finch]

delete the files in \AppData\Local\NVIDIA\DXCache

[analog parrot]

When you're crouched

[finite anvil]

Ya know, I was a bit confused when you said this about black levels and VRR flicker. As I never experienced it myself but then I saw this today and realised it's probably cause I've got QD OLED and my VRR use case has always been for high FPS like 80-90+

https://x.com/i/status/2038009193127370946

Usama Javaid 🇵🇸 (@JavaidUsama)

This post of mine got referenced in TFTcentral's blogpost/article on VRR flicker, yesterday I asked Nicholas @ RTINGs whether this is a thing on all WOLED monitors, apparently yes.

QD-OLED monitors don't exhibit gamma shift at lower FPS caps, imo for monitors, QD-OLED is the way

X · Mar 28, 2026, 9:43 PM

[fresh smelt]

same here
game wont open

[kindred shoal]

yra its not even CTD

[faint bobcat]

You see

[mortal wolf]

forge, did you build debug or release

[faint bobcat]

Jon told me to do Ninjha

and now it doesnt work for you plebs

[foggy dust]

Ah yep that's the one detail I missed. Haha.

[faint bobcat]

smh

[kindred shoal]

it just actually doesnt launch

[faint bobcat]

I am sticking to clang

[foggy dust]

Good find, and good on you for doing more research

[kindred shoal]

lol

[manic finch]

yeah definitely doesn't launch even with deleted shader cache

[true dagger]

forge youre 3 days early with this troll version...

[manic finch]

how dare you

[plain fractal]

Oh, I tought there was some kind of shader cache in the game directory like in MH Wilds

[foggy dust]

The gamma shift is extremely annoying.

[mortal wolf]

clang stronk. also i need to update my local clang version. repo is always latest