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[primal estuary]

my eyes are seeing it as "thicc-er shadows"

[subtle sinew]

it's easier to make out on the ground

[glad vessel]

Oh I forgot about that, thank you I will try that

[spare quartz]

which mod are these screenshots about?

[sick monolith]

ohhh i see

[eternal osprey]

I can't see any immediate difference. I guess that's good.... for me? lol

[subtle sinew]

the same effect on (left) and off (right)
off as in it was turned off through the mod

[sick monolith]

you wont notice this in gameplay for sure

[eternal osprey]

Ok obvious there, it's almost as if some stones just suddenly appear

[subtle sinew]

yep

[primal estuary]

this is caused by a setting in reno?

[subtle sinew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/1?tab=description

it's a shader toggle setting from this mod

downside is you get flatter walls and edges are not as defined but edges are less blurry

[patent bough]

I wonder how long it takes devs to realize this

[subtle sinew]

before and after mod for example

[primal estuary]

thank you for explaining

[thorn grove]

why are people on reddit literal retards

[rare vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-joe-biden-microphone-interview-walk-gif-2478024445377708296

[subtle sinew]

shitting on cd is the new fad

[fierce quest]

This game looks both bad with ray reconstruction and without it. With ray reconstruction, shadows look better but the game is a blurry mess. Without it armor and stuff looks horrible. Is there any fix for this? Am I doing anything wrong?

Tried every possible setting. DLSS 4/4.5 perf/balanced/quality/dlaa

Also weird grainy looks around object borders.

[granite crypt]

I aint an expert or know if its true but: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimsonDesert/comments/1rzp0h9/crimson_desert_broken_dlss_explained/

[stark arch]

I've been looking for solutions myself, you just have to wait

[viscid wedge]

trust me, we know lol

[granite crypt]

If you submit a bug report they will eventually get to it, the more the better. Most people seem to complain but not actually submit a bug report

[karmic quest]

what did you exactly turn off in the mod? I think I deleted something lmao

[stark arch]

daylight rain looks absolutely shit with RR, but RR improves indoor scenes so much

[sick monolith]

the guys at optiscaler suggested to use fsr input => dlss output

[fierce quest]

Cant get this game to look good, whatever I try.

[subtle sinew]

I only toggled this setting sorry for opacity

I deleted the rest since I didn't want them

[karmic quest]

Ah it was that one, I deleted it too lol since I thought hell nah, dont want less depth

[stark arch]

i remember first time booting up this game before renodx, the vegetation in the start scene was so fucking awful, im not even sure how it passed QA

game can look really fucking good at times rn but also really fucking bad. so i hope they fix that

[rare vapor]

I have optiscaler and renodx installed, and i'm missing alot of effects now, like the finishing kill grey and the entire blinding flash blue screen (but keeps the sword glow). is this because of opti/reno?

was fine for a bit then it happened

[plush parcel]

#1469072401450012774 message

"Works"

[crude marsh]

well, their RT implementation is pretty ass so

cant say I am surprised stuff like that happens too

[fierce quest]

Do you guys run it with ray reconstruction or just DLAA? What is best atm?

Ray reconstruction makes it soo blurry, I get a headache.

[granite crypt]

Link to submit bug reports if you want to get things fixed: https://crimsondesert.pearlabyss.com/en-US/News/Notice/Detail?_boardNo=67 (Just scroll to bottom of the page to see the "Report an Issue" button)

[crude marsh]

I run DLSS quality 5k x 2k with RR and RCAS at 0.7

[plush parcel]

Ik i just wanted to show you my video 😊

[rare vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/my-beloved-rtx-5090-rtx-5090-my-beloved-gif-17692330855091513111

[sick monolith]

how much fps?

[fierce quest]

No blur for you with RR?

Compared to RR off.

[crude marsh]

RCAS helps

game just looks so awful without RR I don't consider it an option really

but pick your poison

[crude marsh]

a whopping 50 base fps with an RTX 6000 pro

[sick monolith]

decent

[wispy crown]

Looks at NexusMods
Sorts by date published
All reshade presets

[crude marsh]

but thats enough for me in this game with decent frame pacing

[wispy crown]

We can hide translations... Why can't we hide reshade presets?

[sick monolith]

should be smooth with a dual gpu AFG

[rare vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132

[wispy crown]

"RTX Reshade"

Like bro that's just bloom man

[fierce quest]

How do i even modify rcas? Pretty new to reshade. Is it the "sharpening" option under "Sharpening type rcas" in the renodx options?

I would like to try it.

[rare vapor]

anyone know?

[sick monolith]

renodx has rcas. set it to 50 or whatever

[fierce quest]

This option?

[crude marsh]

ultra realism raytracing cinematic

[fierce quest]

Nvm cant send pic.

[sick monolith]

yeah, you can choose between vanilla and rcas sharpening

[fierce quest]

Ahh i see

Thnx

[eternal osprey]

Is that DLDSR or a native '4k' ultra wide?

[viscid wedge]

man I cannot forgive them putting in activities that you can fail simply because of passive abilities you've unlocked (and can't be switched off)

[eternal osprey]

Somehow made the game look like 2 gens old

[subtle sinew]

I think I'm having similar issues too I don't know if it's from having to redo shaders

[gleaming rivet]

u can

[rare vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[glad vessel]

Another example of the parallax mod

Vanilla

Modded

[crude marsh]

native

[wispy crown]

Wait is there are parallax mod that fixes the low amount in RR?

[jolly jolt]

it looks like its reducing the parallax effect 😕

[subtle sinew]

it pretty much disables it

[velvet cliff]

it's still reasonably bumpy without it

plus parallax also makes the textures blurry so i can live with it off

[glad vessel]

Some scenes look better in vanilla, but they have those blurry edges

[steady stirrup]

Off

On

[severe gulch]

How do i get the latest addon? I can't find it

[viscid wedge]

check the name of the channel 😉

[severe gulch]

I dont't have the pin between those icons... I'm sorry 😭

[viscid wedge]

likely in split view. view the channel in full view

click the three dots up there

[severe gulch]

Thank you so much i'm sorry i'm a bit retarded 😭 ❤️

[golden scaffold]

More ai vibe coding?

[golden scaffold]

This looks great tho. Where's an example of blurry edges? I'm on phone atm so can't pixel peep

[karmic quest]

Doesn't motion make the textures alot blurrier now?

[steady stirrup]

#1469072401450012774 message

[steady stirrup]

Na because it's removes the fuzzy blur around textures

[karmic quest]

And Parallax does that?

Hmmm

[wispy crown]

Yeah the way they do parallax is indeed causing that issue

[karmic quest]

Might need to try it then

[wispy crown]

But I still think the game looks so shit without the effect

[golden scaffold]

Wait so it's a new shadertoggler mod?

[wispy crown]

Is the reworked Auto Exposure in the latest update very different to the one before that?

[crude marsh]

I believe so

[wispy crown]

Ah okay so redo my settings. Hope I can get close to the same result I had with the previous version. Really loved it

[crude marsh]

ShortFuse is working on some interesting stuff with human vision math

[wispy crown]

That sounds really exciting. I just wonder if that really works well on a monitor since the dynamic range we have available on a monitor is so much worse than what we have with our eyes.

[karmic quest]

Next thing Fuse will be selling is monitors custom made for this game

[crude marsh]

well the cool thing is the tonemapping stuff he is working on can be applied to many games

[wispy crown]

Yeah honestly when we had the debate that Crimson Desert was too dark with the new auto exposure I can see what people meant when looking at my LCD monitor. I straight up couldn't see lots of details I could easily see with my OLED. The raised black floor of LCDs really eliminate details in dark scenes.

[fleet jacinth]

can someone post a picture of the newest mod at night time?

last time i saw a picture it was so dark i wouldnt be able to play like that 😄

[crude marsh]

I mean you can opt out of autoexposure changes

[fleet jacinth]

thats perfect then, im still on one of the earlier versions

[primal estuary]

picture and in game likely differ too much, recomend trying it out, its easy to turn off

[crude marsh]

night time is definitely not as dark now and more adjustable

[dapper lake]

https://youtu.be/gR3hZQnj4bc?si=l9-n43UtdIzQ8ZYF dude calls this game a technical masterpiece lmao

[fleet jacinth]

now we just need the devs to do their own fixing lol

fat chance of that

[fossil magnet]

Hi guyse, does "LIGHT FIX STILL RECOMMENDED" mean the"LetThereBeMoreLight" thing?

[past cipher]

yup

[jade magnet]

do you guys have a fix for cloud shimmer on dlss?

[wispy crown]

Masterpiece is too much but since it's flawed on so many levels BUT that said... The engine is incredibly impressive for a team like Pearl Abyss. It reminds me a bit of when Witcher 3 released with their own RED Engine. It had also quite a few flaws back then.

[fossil magnet]

i've just put brightness to 500 but i guess it'll look different

cheers

[dapper lake]

Oh for sure - the engine is imporessive but masterpiece is wild lmao

[wispy crown]

Sadly no. The clouds are rendered at such a low internal resolution it's crazy they even look like clouds

[dapper lake]

i cant say i played W3 on release, got it years after

[wispy crown]

Good. W3 on release was quite a shit show. Especially on consoles it easily could drop to 25 fps

[jade magnet]

and also a questio - what does the light fix actually do? I dont have it installed and for me everything looks great

[wispy crown]

PC was better but still had it's own fair share of issues especially with stuff like GTX 970 3.5GB

[dapper lake]

oohh yikes. IVe only ever heard folk go on about how good it ran and how good it looked but i wasnt that impressed when i got it

[fleet jacinth]

ai channel saying stupid things, no surprise there

[dapper lake]

game itself was great

[past cipher]

it change the values for the torch and other lights if you use the autoexposure in reno

[wispy crown]

The light sources will be quite a bit brighter and the lantern when held a bit dimmer I think.

[jade magnet]

ok cool

thanks

I just upload it to the 0011 folder and thats it?

[past cipher]

i suggest to use json mod manager

[wispy crown]

Nowadays with the added RT it looks quite good I must say. Before that there was a massive downgrade. First gameplay trailer released had really dense pre calculated GI in it. Something similar to AC Unity. They for obvious reasons stripped it for the final release.

[past cipher]

so you dont need to replace the original files

[dapper lake]

Ahh i see, yeah a couple mates of mine were obsessed with it and were giving it the whole "best looking game ever" attitude. Couple mods defo helped it. Ive went back to w3 once with RT and despite loving RT i just didnt think it worth another playthrough for the performanc

idk if it runs better than RT first release tho

[subtle sinew]

Added depth based RCAS and the game looks so much sharper

[crude marsh]

you could ask the devs to not render clouds at 1/64th resolution

[wispy crown]

Runs better? No haha. They used a DX11to12 translation layer to add the new effects on top of the old rendering pipeline. Is quite a quick patch but if you have the horsepower it at least looks nice.

[subtle sinew]

Is that really what they're rendering at? lmao

[dapper lake]

Damn. I just couldnt get performance i was happy with, i cant remember what GPU id have tried it with tho but its between a 3080, 4080super, or the 5080 ihave now

[wispy crown]

And let's normalize cloud rendering bound to output res and not internal res. It annoys me so much as if DLSS can clean up my volumetrics for like what? 2 FPS?

[dapper lake]

idk why the performance on top of being low was super inconsistent and stuttery? Maybe shaders IG

[glad vessel]

But to be honest, at this point we are just pixel peeping and its not that noticable during gameplay

[subtle sinew]

more depth based RCAS goodness

[crude marsh]

there are like 4 different half res cloud things on top of VRS on top of temporal reprojection on the entire sky

[viscid wedge]

today with the next gen update + fully replaced textures and Reno, its quite impressive. IMO looks better than this game at times and runs a hell of a lot better.

[dapper lake]

Ill maybe need to check it out again, i never bothered with reno in it at the time i dont think i had used Reno Yet, what res you running at with what gpu if you dont mind me asking?

i can usually put up w low framerates like star citizen back in the day but it seemed a lot more taxing than i thought

[viscid wedge]

4K, everything maxed out, 4090.

[crude marsh]

what is this "depth" based RCAS

[dapper lake]

Huh, i wonder if my Vram is the issue as id have been on 1440p 5080

WAIT

no i think i still had my 4k monitor

[wispy crown]

I think the reason it sometimes looks better than Crimson Desert is simply that most of the game world probably got much more attention to detail when being created. That results in a bigger feeling when just looking at the game world.

[dapper lake]

welp ill try the game again then

[viscid wedge]

100%, also its not lost on me that the game is far more mature and I modded the hell out of the visuals lol

[eternal osprey]

what resolution is that? Looks very clear

[dapper lake]

i love the overall environment design and layout if you get me in CD but the pop in etc detracts hugely

[subtle sinew]

5120x2880 with DLSS performance and RR

[dapper lake]

at night with the auto exposue mod CD gives me modded skyrim vibes ngl

[wispy crown]

What is your base framerate? 40 FPS?

[crude marsh]

what is this depth based RCAS, also left looks oversharp

[subtle sinew]

hovers between 50-70 depending on the area

[wispy crown]

Even the DLSS noise on the ground gets sharpened which looks quite weird

[subtle sinew]

It's a little sharp over sharpened yeah
I had chatgpt make lilium's RCAS shader fade out based on depth

[wispy crown]

How on earth? I'm on 5120x2160 DLSS Performance RR and I'm between 40-50 on a RTX 4090

[subtle sinew]

I'm on a 5090 lol

[eternal osprey]

that a native res or DLDSR?

[subtle sinew]

dldsr

[wispy crown]

But still you can't just render 33% more pixels and run the game 25% faster. Something is different here

Wait maybe my performance is just cooked

[eternal osprey]

Is your native a 16:9 4k?

[wispy crown]

Does anyone with RR DLSS Performance 4K get really 66 fps?

I'm at 50 most of the time

[eternal osprey]

I can't seem to get DLDSR to work unless it's 2.25x >.<

[manic valve]

I get 70 fps at 4k

[wispy crown]

Okay guess I need to reinstall my driver. WTF

[manic valve]

DDU it

[wispy crown]

Yeah Nvidia "clean install" does the same as DDU afaik

[viscid wedge]

im between 60 and 110 depending on the area on 4090 (4K, RR, Perf)

[manic valve]

Doubt it. DDU is the way

[maiden mortar]

No luck modifying flat lighting times or weather?

[jade magnet]

one observation from myself (I could not fix it by tweaking reno settings) - in full sun in open areas everything looks cool, but for example in the forest the light is super bright compared to the rest. Somethings up with auto exposure i guess

[crude marsh]

I get like.... 50 base out in the world at DLSS quality 5k x 2k

[wispy crown]

I think I'm the only one that loves the flat lighting with RR on. It looks so pleasing to me.

[viscid wedge]

whoops, sorry that was with FG. Yeah more like 60-65 without

[manic valve]

Real frames only

[crude marsh]

nah their weather files only have some of the parameters and the rest is in code

[wispy crown]

Sometimes I forget how much heavier 5kx2k is it seems

[manic valve]

5kx2k is way, way heavier

[crude marsh]

this game seems to scale poorly with res too

but I am fine with 3x fg, get like 45ms render latency

[wispy crown]

Wait also normally I have my power target of the 4090 on 80%

In Crimson Desert I loose almost 10% performance

[eternal osprey]

Did 1.78x DLDSR just work for you? That multiplier doesn't work in game for me, can only see the 2.25x one.

[plush parcel]

I'm on 3x fg too and yea it's fine (never thought I'd ever say that ever in my life)

[subtle sinew]

it worked just fine yeah no issues at all

[crude marsh]

anyone else get audio glitches sometimes when launching game in main menu

[exotic bridge]

Hi, is it normal that interiors are so dark with Renodx? You can't see anything in buildings/houses, but it's fine outdoors.

[crude marsh]

if you use the adjusted autoexposure they are darker yes

[exotic bridge]

So it's better to disable it then?

[eternal osprey]

Hmm, I'm at ~65fps (native 3440x1440, but DLDSR 2.25x to 5160x2160), DLSS Quality, RR = ON. 2x FG.

[dry rain]

almost every fucking time, only stops after the loading screen

[crude marsh]

ok good its not just me

[crude marsh]

preference, I don't think so

current version shouldn't be that bad about it though afaik

and I use the more light mod I posted

[naive jackal]

Only thing glitching is me, me checking the pins for a new download

[manic finch]

sounds like it's lagging/skipping right?

[crude marsh]

yeah

[manic finch]

yeah on my living room pc i get it

but not my main one

[crude marsh]

I didn't get it for a while and now I get it constantly

[wispy crown]

Okay so I get about 50-55 FPS now with 100% power limit. Weird that Crimson Desert costs me so much performance with lowered power limit while games like CP2077 are lik 3-4 percent at max.

[manic finch]

yeah luckily it only seems it happens on the main menu afaik

[crude marsh]

its just really annoying cause I launch my game like 100x per day

[dapper lake]

sounds weird, gpu ocd?

[crude marsh]

well it seems to effect multiple people so

and only in main menu

[manic finch]

yeah that is true

definitely we are not the only ones, no clue what causes it

[dapper lake]

ah only asked as i get it in other games when dodgy OC is on

[crude marsh]

havent had any OC related crashes afaik

[manic finch]

it's not OC related

because my living room pc is not overclocked at all

and still does it

[dapper lake]

only thing ive noticed is a 0.5second stutter in the load screen after i verify crash

[crude marsh]

in 2025 on steam alone I had over 12000 game sessions

[dapper lake]

yeah i know i was clarifying why i had asked after lazor said it wasnt related to that

[manic finch]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-christ-monkey-balls-sergeant-harrison-yates-detective-harris-south-park-s8e7-gif-22281626

well thanks to you, I know lots of us have enjoyed so many better pc ports thanks to U+

the 🐐

[gilded plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-14922675818058709477

[lament orchid]

✋ 🥹 🤚

[wispy crown]

Peak gaming

Turn off auto exposure adjustments if you don't like it

realistic graphics™

[hardy owl]

I have a question, when using the option autoexposure alternative, if the nights are too dark, what can I change in the settings to make them more bright? Adaptation contrast?

[wispy crown]

Adaptive contrast is not to be used currently. Implementation is a bit flawed. I would just use exposure.

[hardy owl]

So up or down? Not sure I understand what the text says

[crude marsh]

"Larger numbers brighten dark scenes"

[hardy owl]

Gotcha. So maybe 60-70. I will try

When it rains at night it becomes extremely dark

Its hard to see

[manic finch]

speaking of U+ earlier, I am still waiting for stalker 2 to update their UE engine which the next update and dlc still isn't happening yet lol

[eternal osprey]

love it

[crude marsh]

soon ™

[eternal osprey]

it's hard to find the right level... as soon as the moon is obscured by a tiny cloud it's massively different

[true dagger]

isnt that how it works tho, if light source visible = more light, if obscured = less light (darker)

im using auto exposure ceiling at the default 50, and ive been rly happy with how the game looks

sure it does get dark sometimes at night, so i just pull out my lantern

[true dagger]

i mean ofc adjust to your personal preference, but im just saying it wont always look the same at night

[eternal osprey]

Yeah, it's hard to get as I'd like. Here's 100, 50, 0 with the moon in vision. Then 100, 50, 0 with it not.

[wispy crown]

I also think the bigger moon is a bit of a visual flaw. Yeah it's visually bigger but the light still just comes from the center point which means it looks wrong

Putting moon size to 1x fixes that.

[forest path]

are the nights blue in sdr guys ?

or is renodx just matching how it looks in sdr ?

[wispy crown]

Disabling AWB fixed that for me

[lavish lance]

So thank god for the mod letting me remove chromatic aberration and the sharpening, my eyes are no longer bleeding as much. But I still find daytime to be strangely dim, like I have to squint to see sometimes, almost as if everything is slightly too far away if you get what I mean by that. Guess it has to do with blur or maybe contrast? Anyone had similar experiences and found a good setting for it? I tried upping contrast but didn't see much of a difference.

edit: Tried running both DLAA without RR and DLSS balanced with RR. Cinematic settings. Have to use framegen on both. Got a 4080.

[manic finch]

still really annoyed they did not fix DLAA+HDR yet, but also I should not be surpsied with the millions of other issues with the game and it's coding

[sinful ravine]

have they done any patches yet?

[manic finch]

they did

[analog charm]

that's a really nice improvement. do you have a github link to the shader?

[manic finch]

they did one patch after the day one patch 1.003

[eternal osprey]

Then with Lantern. 0, 50, 100, and Off. Had no idea 100 was different to off.

[manic finch]

was like last weekend

[true dagger]

yea well off is their normal auto exposure from the devs, and i much more prefer the one from reno in pretty much every scene

like from these screenshots i find 50 to look the best but you prob have a different monitor and what else

[subtle sinew]

I can dm you the file since I have no idea what the perms are

[analog charm]

that would be awesome if you could :)

[solar bone]

50 works great on my oled hdr

[smoky fog]

I wanted to do some more testing first to be sure. Tipped all 3 links this morning. Great work by all.

also, I don't quite understand how but the mod seems to have fixed my stuttering issue? I was previously using Special K to override Nvidia reflex because that seemed to be the culprit, but when I run reshade+reno it seems gone?

woke up this morning to test again and yeah, still no stutters

[teal pumice]

more like messedpiece

[crude marsh]

hmm depth based sharpening is interesting

[solar bone]

Found anything interesting worth releasing at some point?

[crude marsh]

nah, I decoded a shit ton of game files/formats and spent a while trying to manipulate memory

and nothing really

[desert fox]

That nexus mod is nice. Makes the ground much better.

[manic finch]

I think you did enough with what you got @crude marsh appreciate the work into this mess of a code lol. I can't imagine how annoying it is going through it from the stuff I heard.

[subtle nova]

which one is it?

[crude marsh]

it is quite frustrating to say the least

[solar bone]

Those shadows look pretty good yeah

[manic finch]

seems very much so. If it didn't have denuvo would it be a lot more tolerable? I know it's already a mess without it

[crude marsh]

I did at least heavily promote mods being created so thats cool, all the tools referencing my unpacker

[desert fox]

The No Hud/Effects mod. Has Parallax toggle.

[manic finch]

yeah I been seeing the mods made from nexus thanks to your unpacker

awesome to see

[crude marsh]

would be easier to find stuff in memory and manipulate it

[exotic bridge]

Screen settings pls ?

[solar bone]

interesting

[subtle nova]

I see, what settings do you have enabled to achieve that?

[manic finch]

it's from the no hud/effects mod on nexus

[desert fox]

Ye, it's just the toggle on/off between both images. Nothing else

[manic finch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/1

I didn't even mess with it much. I only dled it to remove the noise effect you get from one of the games weapons skills

was really annoying to deal with

[subtle nova]

well yeah but which settings exactly makes it look better and increase depth?

[desert fox]

The Parallax toggle

[exotic bridge]

Ok thanks

[crude marsh]

also suggest removing clutter

[manic finch]

even the parallax stuff is a mess, lowering it improves the ground and some stuff, but houses and walls are more flat now from what i see

yeah when i get home from work, gonna try those other settings

[true dagger]

@crude marsh hows your weather thingy coming together, or does it not work

[subtle nova]

there is also this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/256, i use it but i'm not sure if it does anything to parallax thing

[crude marsh]

none of the things I want to change are defined in most of the assets

[subtle nova]

things look crisper with it

[crude marsh]

and the games memory is a no go

yeah we generally dont do random reshades here

[hardy owl]

So I am guessing we can't expect more improvements for the game for now right? Maybe contact shadows from Forge and not much else

[manic finch]

feel like it's honestly a miracle we got what we did from the stuff I heard so far lol

[crude marsh]

I thing reno folks will continue to make some improvements for a bit

interested in new tonemapping from shortfuse

[hardy owl]

True, I can't imagine playing this game without renodx mod. Its a non go for me

[subtle nova]

I wish we could increase LOD distance, game only utilize 6gb of VRAM, i got my 5090 for a reason and dont mind if it stores more and better quality lods

[crude marsh]

and forges shadows

[desert fox]

House roof seems better when ground gets better, no?

[hardy owl]

Same. I sent them feedback in their website asking for higher LOD. I doubt they'll do anything but at least I tried

[manic finch]

there was another screenshot someone showed of the walls and brick houses looking flat in this discord, would have to scroll up

but yeah looks better and some cases it doesn't it seems

[hardy owl]

Its stupid that people with powerful pcs cant push further the graphics.

Btw @crude marsh is it possible to mod textures in the game? Like adding higher res textures for rocks and things like that?

[subtle nova]

i have read limitation lies within their game engine deep inside and hardcoded, also PA is a developer of BDO which is grindy mmorpg and most ppl playing it from poor pc so there is a very little hope they will adjust LoDs

[subtle sinew]

people have been complaining about BDO lods for years it's probably an engine limitation

[subtle nova]

lod distance is not something developers of the engine can't easily adjust, its not reimplementing some tech

they just dont want to probably

[subtle sinew]

not exactly
you might be able to tweak a 2d lod but if the engine can't handle streaming correctly you can only push it so far

cyberpunk was one of those games that you could tweak the lods and the moment you do shit starts to break

[hardy owl]

Honestly, this game with higher quality clouds, and higher LOD in general would look glorious.

[subtle nova]

i had plenty of mods for lods for cp2077 and it was just fine

[subtle sinew]

if you tried tweaking the ini values it went to shit fast lol

[subtle nova]

i wont lie, i didn't touch those files, i have just downloaded some mods from nexus that claimed it will increase lod distance and it worked

[subtle sinew]

there's definitely potential but a lot of fixing to be done

[subtle sinew]

some of them did work yeah but then again the more objects you had on screen you'd still lose performance

[subtle nova]

lose of performance is a cost of better graphics, thats how it works id think

[crude marsh]

not that it should cost anything to render more than the worst LODs possible

[true dagger]

they should just add another setting in the graphics menu for lods

[spare lion]

hey now where i can find reno dx for crimson?Im new and didnt know how.

[hardy owl]

#1469072401450012774 message

[spare lion]

ok thx^^

i wish u all happy weekend see ya bb

[rough granite]

forcing myself to play Titan Quest 2 to postpone waiting for it 😄

[analog root]

Hey just a quick question. Can I use your light mod with rr off?

[crude marsh]

yeah

[analog root]

Nice! Thank you

I think im gonna stick to dlaa 1440p no rr

The blur is too much for me using performance mode

[sullen salmon]

The updated build from yesterday's been crashing the game randomly for me. I dont have my graphics card OC'd the early builds were working fine. Not sure why its happening on the new build.

[viscid wedge]

probably not Reno related

[sullen salmon]

I removed Reno and everything seems fine and i have no crashes.

the false positive builds had their charm while they lasted.

[viscid wedge]

never been an issue for most of us. no smart app control and an exclusion on the game folder.

I've been running every new Reno build since last week, haven't had a crash at all

[sullen salmon]

Pretty much same here, i've troubleshooted all i can so i posted here.

[desert fox]

those shots taken from reshade screenshot? what you have peak and game brightness at? my highlights aren't bright like that without being overexposed.

[viscid wedge]

unless you have the exact same display, your Peak won't be the same

[desert fox]

But I can see said highlight brightness in the shots... so should be able to achieve, right

[polar crow]

5070ti at 4k not sure if I should use RR or not the fps hit is massive

[desert fox]

Mmm fair enough. Why is it I can see the great HDR in those shots, without overexposure, but mine simply isn't that bright in game. But my screen is allowing me to see it...

[subtle sinew]

you can try but it probably won't look right on your screen

[plush parcel]

I use RR + 3x fg + dlss q but I'm only at 3.4k x 1.4k

[polar crow]

Atm I use 4k performance and fg x3 but the input lag is over 50ms not sure if its worth it

[dense raft]

Did anyone figure out how to custom set dlss res? I tried doing it through the Nvidia app at 43% but the game becomes black but somehow the loading screen is visible 🤷

[analog root]

I can deal with the input lag until 80ms playing on the controller

[hollow kiln]

did they just turn on ambientlight.fx and call it a day lol

[plush parcel]

I mean to me RR is mandatory, i've tried to make RR off and lighting ultra work but I couldn't be satisfied with it, so noisy

[analog root]

Same here

[subtle sinew]

I found where they got the crimson desert lods 🤔

[hollow kiln]

pls stop calling it parallax mod 😛 . it's turning the displacement shader off.

has tradeoffs in both directions. unmodified you get a lot of depth via added geo, but lose tons of shading detail. modified you lose a lot of "3d-ness" in return for sometimes getting better looking self shadowing surfaces.

that displacement stuff needs to not round off every corner it sees, and needs to stop stealing shadows from things. looks the worst on wooden planks on the ground.

[stone comet]

the parallax mod (its not even parallax it completely disables it) 🔥

[gentle cedar]

@crude marsh would you consider updating the lights mod to also work with the JSON mod manager tool? I tried to do it myself since it looks like it's largely just folder structure but I'm not sure where the meta/0.papgt file should come from or how it's generated.

[crude marsh]

miscellaneous/lightpreset.xml 0011/0.paz

I suppose I could try to play with all of the games heightfields and see if anything meaningful can be done with RR

[quasi flicker]

Wait…. Chomp. Someone quick he plays other games beside fixing spt

[quasi flicker]

Impossible through nvapp/dlss tweaker/inspector

[rough granite]

ready for the mod manager (I still use browser but I think will work with JSON Mod manager too)

[hollow kiln]

wat dis?

[gentle cedar]

it's recognized in it. i am just starting with JSON mod manager do you recommend crimson browser instead?

[rough granite]

the pinned light edits, just ready for mod manager to deploy

[rough granite]

i think JSON now supports all formats

in so it shouldnt be called JSON Manager only anymore 😄

[hollow kiln]

gotcha. some of the values have bee further tweaked I see, especially candles. much nice.

[rough granite]

yeah I tweaked more on my own

[eternal osprey]

What display do you have?

[gentle cedar]

yeah it supports compiled, json and raw formats now apparently. your new .zip was immediately recognized. thank you for that

[hollow kiln]

would love to see the cd camera mod work with the json mod manager. I saw their own mod manager was yoinked and is no longer available

[hollow kiln]

oh that's nice. json mod manager creates new paz archives instead of rewriting existing ones.

[steel wolf]

I ended up trying 4 and it does look better with minimal impact to latency/fps. Still need to try QP<10

[wraith cipher]

Hi, do I only need to install the addon in the pinned post and that's it for CD?

[upbeat magnet]

Yessssss

VBV/QP

[jaunty summit]

Are you talking about moonlight?

[upbeat magnet]

Ye

[jaunty summit]

P1 would be as good as p4 if you use enough bitrate

For example for me p1 375mb bitrate hevc looks the same as using p4

[upbeat magnet]

It doesn’t at my bitrates.

500-1G+.

[jaunty summit]

What bitrate are you running? 500mb?

[upbeat magnet]

I typically run 1G with high VBV, but have been testing different configs at 500

[jaunty summit]

Also using 4:4:4 consumes more host latency and there is no visual benefit for gaming 4:4:4 is more for text clarity

[jaunty summit]

What is this? Never seen vbv in sunshine /Apollo etc are you running 1 gigabit bitrate in the client?

[subtle sinew]

Samsung odyssey ark with service menu tweak to push 2200+nits

[floral sable]

Got this visual bug high up on a mountain. Fixed it by disabling "Sun Improvements + Moon Adjustments"

[upbeat magnet]

VBV acts as a variable bitrate buffer that can stretch bitrate per frame depending on encoding requirements by a percentage.

And yes, 1gbps bitrate requested by the client

[jaunty summit]

What client are you using that handles 1gb bitrate haha? My moonlight on windows only goes up to 500, are you using artemis or something?

[upbeat magnet]

I’m using a forked version of moonlight on the Vision Pro

[jaunty summit]

By the way I don't know you're gpu, but vibepollo (Apollo fork) merged a new feature double encoding. If you have a 4080/4090/5080/5090 it can do the encoding in 2 nvenc encoder

That halves you're host latency

Split frame support it's called

I think 4070 ti and 5070ti also got double nvenc encoders

[upbeat magnet]

Forked fork of sunshine? I’ve been running Apollo mostly for the virtual display in headless mode, haven’t looked into vibepollo. I assume it still has to hit performance on the host though if it’s double encoding. I’ve been testing balance between quarter and full frame encoding and quarter actually seems fine based on high VBV and bitrate with low QP and no spatial AQ.

10-12ms transcode latency at P5 with a minimal difference to performance on the host and very little compression

Visually 5-10% difference from native, but will check into vibepollo and do some testing as well

Cheers!

[vivid iris]

Is it just the missing lens flare?

Or is something else being clipped away by the Sdr shot?

[jaunty summit]

10 to 12ns is fine for 60fps but is way to much for 120 fps

[upbeat magnet]

4090 also

[jaunty summit]

Yeah it's a fork of Apollo called vibepollo

It doesn't cost extra performance of the host

It just uses the double nvenc encoder our 4090 has

https://github.com/Nonary/Vibepollo

Also you can go into the moonlight discord there is a separate channel called vibepollo, it's a active channel where you can talk with the developers

All the moonlight etc developers are in there happy to help and get some ideas

[floral sable]

Just the sky and cloud being very pixelated

[jaunty summit]

Because of the community we have now multi split frame encoder 🙂

[hardy owl]

What's that?

[viscid wedge]

This is how the dual chips are used by default. Splitting the frames into horizontal halves, encoding the halves on the separate chips, and then stitching them back together before output.

[jaunty summit]

It's a fork build of Apollo

It's for moonlight /game streaming

[vivid iris]

Oh I’m a dummy, didn’t even realize on my phone without zooming

[jaunty summit]

Yeah it is, only thing normal sunshine didn't exclude this in their release yet,

[carmine stump]

Hi folks, should I check the pins for the mod?

jk

[jaunty summit]

It's only working automaticaly on 4k tho, if you want multi split frame encoder in lower resolutions you have to force it in vibepollo gui

[fleet jacinth]

only if you want to !!!

[viscid wedge]

that github is hilarious. basically reads like "I don't really know what i'm doing but Claude Code seems to do alright even though its bloated as hell so we're just running with it"

[carmine stump]

Undecided

[upbeat magnet]

+1

[karmic quest]

Ah so thats what was causing the pixelated clouds

[floral sable]

First time seeing this, and RR off/on change nothing. Happened during sunrise, now it's gone

[jaunty summit]

Yeah it's based on AI. But still he is one of the moonlight developer and it realy works great better then Apollo atm

It can also capture wgc, Apollo can't (only with a bypass)

But vibepollo switches automaticaly between dxgi and wgc when it's needed

[carmine stump]

8.7 on MC now 😮

[dreamy field]

even tho im on 4k with a 4070 super i cant play with RR off the noise is awful in any interior, i only get 30fps before FG and 60fps with it but, the frame pacing/latency is surprisingly really good

[fresh field]

4k with a 4070 is kinda oof though. Card struggling

[jaunty summit]

Running frame gen on 30fps is bad, did you test you're pcl latency with frame view or somethjng?

[dreamy field]

i havent tested pcl latency though i tested the per frame latency and i get about 20-30ms per frame latency before fg

[jaunty summit]

I advice to test it, it's probably 60+

[floral sable]

I too play RR off. All cinematic + DLAA + FG on a 4080 and average 130fps

[dreamy field]

ill download frameview and check rq

[jaunty summit]

1440p no 4k I suppose?

[floral sable]

Yes

[dreamy field]

i wonder if theyll fix the vanilla denoiser being super noisy especially on metallic armor

[fresh field]

prob not, thats what RR is for

[floral sable]

I wish I could play RR on because plate armor texture feels terrible

[dreamy field]

yeah, the kairos armor looks very bad without it

[fresh field]

you can def play RR on a 4080. Though you may not be able to use DLAA

[dreamy field]

kinda reminds me of stalker 2's lumen noise tbh but a lot worse

[floral sable]

Yeah but the blur on DLSS is worse imo

[fresh field]

RR looks like an entirely different game though, for the better unfortunately.

its like night and day

[faint bobcat]

I am patching non RR hue correction for the plebs rn

I need eye bleach

ts pmo

looks atrocious

oh and all the shaders dont decomp

so nice

[rough granite]

any chance for an early build with shadows fix the non-plebs? 😛

[dreamy field]

yeah, i hope nvidia eventually releases a better RR preset with less blur, i did manage to fix some of the texture blurring by forcing anisotropic filtering and lod bias to -2.5 in nvpi

[faint bobcat]

SoonTM

[subtle nova]

sounds good, mind sharing a step by step on it?

[hardy owl]

You are too quiet today man what's up

[fresh field]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-been-working-hard-lofe-hes-hardworking-he-has-put-a-lot-of-effort-into-his-work-gif-27388288

[dapper lake]

huh, does anisotropic forced not shit the bed here? i know some games HATE it i learned when i stupidly forced it globally

[faint bobcat]

plebs have hue correction working now

[spare quartz]

its extremely rare, probably can count such games with 1 hand

[dapper lake]

i had it in 5 or 6 games in the space of a year icr what ones though lmao

[subtle nova]

how do u guys do hdr screenshots? for me it looks bleached

[spare quartz]

I think this was a new bug that came with 50 series launch. I have been running global 16x for years

[subtle nova]

trying to report a bug and fail to capture propertly

[dapper lake]

yeah just googled and since i last checked a year ago theyve responded its a known 50xx bug

[dreamy field]

my nvpi settings wouldnt recommend setting this globallly though for sure

[dapper lake]

ill give it a try see if theyve fixed it but im doubtful

[vivid iris]

reshade screenshots are HDR

[golden scaffold]

What's the thing under low light exposure limit? 👀

[cobalt sorrel]

I just use the snipping tool in windows, it has a setting to enable hdr screenshot color corrector

[vivid iris]

this doesn't work 100% of the time and it's also just a bad tonemap to SDR

[mortal wolf]

Bold to trust Microsoft and their processing

[dreamy field]

only issue with the default snipping tool is it limits the RGB max color to 235, i would recommend power toys for a better snipping tool

power toys can do true hdr snipping

[subtle nova]

alright, i see white things when i look here, not sure how to describe it

[vivid iris]

I had no idea powertoys had hdr snipping 👀

[dreamy field]

not sure why microsoft never integrated that into the windows snipping tool

[cobalt sorrel]

Oh, didnt realize. They dont look bad when i’m trying to show something to someone

[mortal wolf]

Microsoft autohdr

[dreamy field]

microsoft autohdr is atrocious

[fresh field]

what do the rebar settings do for you? I have it enabled on the bios level

[spare quartz]

RR Preset E is good in crimson desert?

[dreamy field]

yeah its pretty good

[fresh field]

RR in CD defaults to D but i heard E has some issues but i havent used it myself

[mortal wolf]

Horrible curve (Windows AutoHdr)

[dreamy field]

what issues might it have?

[quartz tendon]

If I recall right, faces have smearing and there were other things.

[dreamy field]

i havnet noticed any issues with faces though i have seen some shadow flickering but im not sure if thats the preset or the game itself

the shadow thing though is distance based so it might be how the game handles them tbh not sure yet

[fresh field]

do you guys have a set shader cache size in your nvidia CP? mines set to driver default lol, i dont mess with that much but not sure how much it really matters

[crude marsh]

E can have some intense noise during some cutscenes especially indoors and also struggles with characters indoors

[dreamy field]

i usually have mine at 10gb, some games sometimes eat that space up so it should prevent any shader compiling related stutters

[vivid iris]

something something built by AI by analyzing gears 5

[true dagger]

i tried E for a few hours but in this game D is more stable so i’d stay on D for now probably

[vivid iris]

really feel like this narrative has to be pure nonsense

[cold tree]

this res doesnt show up at the game, any idea how to force?

[vivid iris]

but it's the official one

[sharp moon]

Change the monitor resolution to that

[wraith cipher]

looking for this as well, haven't found any solution

[wraith cipher]

doesn't work unfortunately seems like the game doesn't support that one

[dreamy field]

i get about 60-70 pcl with framegen off at 40fps, where im at rn seems to give me a slightly higher framerate, might test with RTSS capping it at 60 though in a sec, and with framegen about 70-80

[sharp moon]

Is it from 1440p

[sudden arch]

the game haves some graphical glitches rn, wait for patch

[cold tree]

did that already, no luck

[mortal wolf]

Marketing nonsense can't hide from decompilation

[cold tree]

is there a config file? we might be able to type the res in

[sharp moon]

You can try special k to force the resolution too

[crude marsh]

yeah, for res there's a config

in localappdata

[vivid iris]

it's funnier to imagine them going "grok make my game look like gears 5"

[hardy owl]

I can't believe that cinematic mode has five meters of LOD at best for so many things lol . Crazy stuff

[dreamy field]

AI is semi awful at coding, it cant handle anything super complex so the scope of AI coding is a lot smaller for anything that would actually work

[faint bobcat]

new code SoonTM

[mortal wolf]

I'm assuming the gears 5 thing is a joke? Don't know what AutoHdr and a modern game has to do with HDR

[quasi flicker]

Anyone who had a chance to look into some game files find it funny there are settings for Android os ?

[dreamy field]

it can do pretty decently though if you ask it to convert SDR shaping into linear shaping for converting SDR shaders to HDR shaders with reshade though

[mortal wolf]

I've yet to see a competent, HDR-first game

Usually it's an HDR that's "least offensive" to the SDR or just insane stretching

[faint bobcat]

that seems to be a base game BRDF issue

EON solves it

it happens when you have unclamped or very wide BRDF maths

for whats it

[earnest mountain]

Guys, I guess it's a stupid question, but where can I download the renodx file?

[sharp moon]

Pins

[dreamy field]

pinned messages in this channel

[wraith cipher]

yeah there is, %localappdata% and go to Pearl abyss-CD-save and there's an html or xml file in there you can modify, I tried putting in a new line for the resolution but all it did when I booted up the game is reset my settings and the file was deleted and restored by the game. It has a heavy modification check in place

[golden scaffold]

there really isn't anything? what about some of the sony exclusives? I didn't have any beef with returnal etc. i thought ratchet was fine too? and what about horizons?

[dreamy field]

if you plan to use auto exposure fix, theres also the modified light brightness files

[earnest mountain]

Thank you so much!

[fleet prawn]

Thought the ori games and no rest for the wicked look pretty good with native HDR in my opinion

[mortal wolf]

I remember horizons having insane clipping. You can @nova cargo about Sony games, i think

[mortal wolf]

We have the guy who built the HDR for Ori around here. It was jacked up to hell because management wanted iirc. Clipped to hell

[fleet prawn]

oh damn, well its been a while since I've played it and back then I didn't know anything about HDR and was wowed by it for sure

[nova cargo]

The default settings seem to boost highlights to a ridiculous degree and they have some fake 2.2 emulation but it looks decent enough

No such thing as a video game that’s developed for hdr

[golden scaffold]

so what about Returnal?

[mortal wolf]

I'd like to see an HDR first game and they make compromises for SDR, not the other way around

[nova cargo]

Was consulted for it but they seemed to just ignore his recommendations

[mortal wolf]

Returnal is UE. Which is stock ACES 1000 or 2000 for HDR

[tame vault]

Returnal looks Uber fried to my eyes

[nova cargo]

Is returnal using normal UE ACES or a custom one

[mortal wolf]

I'm not sure, @brittle egret might know. But I know people like the RenoDX build for it

[nova cargo]

Returnal had some weird stuff going on with the pc version’s gamma in sdr from what I remember. Not sure if it’s also like that in hdr

[fleet prawn]

Given that OLED Monitor's are becoming cheaper as time goes on and more people will have access to HDR, game companies will have to prioritize HDR at some point right? They have too

[crude marsh]

not commenting on HDR but returnal is one of the rare impressive games technically

[golden scaffold]

well it seems like Soros (Returnal sequel) will not be getting a PC release so our best hope is that HDR will be same as Returnal which was... not perfect, but.. passable?

[tame vault]

I've gotta say, the way the RenoDX team handle HDR i.e. the methodology, is just perfect for me. I can't use any other approaches now.

[nova cargo]

Realistically office monitors will all be sdr lcd

OLED is very unlikely in office environments

[mortal wolf]

RenoDX is HDR first. If it works with SDR, bonus.

[tame vault]

The performance and audio is absolutely top tier

[mortal wolf]

Getting it to look good on SDR was part of our process but not so much anymore

[nova cargo]

Most of the time if we’re fixing a game that has hdr it’s just unfucking the code to be more in line with SDR and then we add our own tweaks on top of that

[crude marsh]

until studios stop following the ACES and per channel stuff..... well

[nova cargo]

Whatever code devs are writing for hdr is usually nonsense

[golden scaffold]

I mean graphically there really wasn't that much complicated to render. but they knew what they were going for and what to focus on. advantages of a small team imo

[fleet prawn]

Oh yeah guess if the devs don't use HDR during development themselves then it makes sense.

[mortal wolf]

Also annoying colorists that are too stubborn to learn anything

[tame vault]

I just want it to look subtle, with realistic highlights

[mortal wolf]

They'll get grading that is SDR only

[golden scaffold]

but you don't really need an oled to display/work in hdr, do you?

[crude marsh]

good thing UE built good defaults into 5.7 right.... right?

[nova cargo]

Ya in general people take hdr as meaning you have to jack shit up

And you get tasteless garbage

Ori 2 is the worst offender

[mortal wolf]

At best, they make a fixed look just for one peak nits. Like FF7 team did just for 1000 nits. Above is not available and below is a lerp between 1000 nit version and 100 nit version

[tame vault]

If rather play in sdr than jacked up hdr

And I don't say that lightly

[nova cargo]

You can have the shittiest monitors in the world as long as your math is fine you’ll get the correct output

[golden scaffold]

yeah so not having oleds in their offices is not an excuse

[mortal wolf]

I find FF7 as a better solution. Though you're still locked to one fixed look, which I always object about. HDR needs to be scalable to devices and environments

[golden scaffold]

and this doesn't mean every coder needs an hdr monitor

[dreamy field]

also im using IMMERSE Sharpen on the simple preset as the advanced sharpening preset doenst work with how reshade sees the depth buffers with dlss

[mortal wolf]

No movies are graded for the 400 nit displays you guys have

[fleet prawn]

Nah ofc not, as long as some of the devs are gamers that care about HDR and use it personally at home

[golden scaffold]

theoratically you would be having only a few guys working on final presentation/lighting/LUTs meaning the artists that make the textures and modelling don't have to worry about HDR either?

[karmic quest]

1 PIC is with DLSS 4.0 RR FGX2 image becomes blurry 2 PIC DLSS 4.0 RR FGX2 I switch to DLAA and Back.

[golden scaffold]

so what exactly is casuing the blur?

FG? RR?

[karmic quest]

Idk what is

But I have to do this every couple hours

[golden scaffold]

if you don't use FG do you still trigger the blur? is it RR?

[karmic quest]

its either RR or FG

[stray grove]

@karmic quest you swap back to dlaa then back to quali?

[plain fractal]

DLSS being placed after Post Processing if I remember correctly

[golden scaffold]

and all you have to do is switch to DLAA, hit apply, go back to game, and switch back to DLSS - preset?

[karmic quest]

ye

[stray grove]

@karmic quest yea ive been doing that too every now and then. It seem to stabilize image its weird

[karmic quest]

Starting to think that forcing higher render res in NVPI could work, because in game with just switching to native back to dlss makes the image sharper..

[golden scaffold]

but i didn't notice something like this in 4K - ultra perf what I use. i'll keep an eye out. but messing with settings somethings locks my game to 58 fps so i stopped doing it

[karmic quest]

It also fixes rain btw

[mortal wolf]

Artists don't know how to create for HDR and devs don't know how to code for it. Lose, lose.

[golden scaffold]

what is your post processing setting at?

[stray grove]

@karmic quest id have to check that it havent rain in my game for a while

[solar bone]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1HezBoFvUd/ OK this is pretty sick

[stark arch]

and consumers dont know how to consume hdr

[crude marsh]

insert reddit thread about RTX HDR vs reno

[karmic quest]

I haven't tested NVPI yet but I am very tempted now..

Like even rain appeared lmao

good timing btw

lmfao

[solar bone]

What are you changing in nvpi

[karmic quest]

One user changed the DLSS RR to 99% or something

He said it became alot sharper without a performance hit

[crude marsh]

yeah that doesn't do anything

[karmic quest]

But lazorr, how does my image become sharper when I switch back and forth between DLSS 4.0 and DLAA

😭

[crude marsh]

I think I saw that if you don't move

and then when you move its back to normal

[karmic quest]

No

It also fixes when moving

In moving the bluriness still exists

[solar bone]

?

[naive jackal]

@crude marsh I think that method breaks or disables RR because when i tried it i went from 130fps to 150 in the same area

[jaunty summit]

Dint cap framegen with rtss front sync or edge sync, use reflex in rivatuner rtss settings otherwise pcl latency will je doubled

[karmic quest]

Yeah ur right

The blurry image comes from RR

[dreamy field]

yeah ive got that setup correctly i believe

[karmic quest]

Going to DLAA back to DLSS 4.0 disables the RR

[golden scaffold]

I still don't understand what that means. how should I approach this if my target usage is dlss ultra perf?

[faint bobcat]

Temp fix for bloom flickering

[dreamy field]

not sure if passive waiting or not is good or bad though tbh

[jaunty summit]

Yes perfect 🙂

[karmic quest]

Poor soul still stuck in the starting city, can I spare you some of my armor kind sir

[faint bobcat]

going to be 100hrs

[golden scaffold]

oh god one of another annoyances in modern games we just learned to live with until you see the fix 😭

[faint bobcat]

still in starting zone

[plain fractal]

@faint bobcat When will we be getting the these fixes? Looks so much better

[golden scaffold]

i'm 30h of mostly playing not pixel peeping (I promise) and I'm still in chapter 3 as well. it can be much much more than a 100h game

[crude marsh]

this is the smoking gun

[faint bobcat]

rip

it deletes bloom from the sun now

dogshit

[faint bobcat]

You are totally right to question this

[crude marsh]

[plain fractal]

Still better than all of the bloom flickering

[karmic quest]

This reaction is priceless

[faint bobcat]

You adjust one thing

and 4 others break

duct tape and glue

[karmic quest]

Reminds me of Rainbow Six Siege, devs keep adding duct tape and glue and after the next update many other things break

🤣

[dreamy field]

at 30fps capped with rtss with framgen off i get about 70-80pcl, with FG on at 60fps capped with rtss, it jumpts to about 85-90ish, though its hard to notice any input lag still surprisingly

[vivid iris]

is this not just disabling the bloom?

[jade spruce]

The issue is clear now

good catch

[faint bobcat]

"Now I see the full picture"

temporal jitter from AutoExposure is borking bloom

[jade spruce]

it's because you're not using the Kevin Jitter

[faint bobcat]

Smmmuuuhhh jitter?

Feegggssehhehh Decima jitter

[shut badge]

outdoors at day time this game mogs, at night time or indoors witcher 3 mogs

[shut badge]

will it improve stability or performance if I use DDU?

I might do it rn if so, does it only uninstall old drivers

[manic valve]

It gets rid of every trace of it properly

The guys at Guru3D swear by it and I havent found any other place with more knowledge on drivers anywhere else.

[faint bobcat]

Witcher 3 VGX 2013 is back on the menu bois

[shut badge]

ok sick, and no issues with compatibility cus only the newest one is being used? sorry if the question reeks of tech illiteracy

[manic valve]

Lol no worries

No issues at all

It is essentially a boutique driver cleanup/uninstall tool

[shut badge]

ok nice

[manic valve]

It's especially essential if switching GPU brands as well

If you have an AMD card and go to Nvidia, it can cause huge issues. And vice versa

[shut badge]

I've only ever used an rtx 4080s on my pc

[manic valve]

That's an amazing card

[shut badge]

guru3d scares me cus it looks too much like softonic lol

[manic valve]

Lol it's because it's an oldschool site from the same Web 1.0ish era

But the guy that owns and runs it is a hardcore GPU enthusiast

And the developer of DDU iirc

I would say if you want to have a rock solid system and performance, doing DDU once in a while when upgrading drivers is good practice.

[quasi flicker]

Did someone manage to set custom scale on DLSS ???

[dreamy field]

ive had issues getting it to work without black screens

[burnt bison]

I am 46 hours and still haven't fought the Reed Demon thing in chapter 3. I've been just running around finding content and trouble. This might easily become a 500 hour game for me. I'm treating it like an MMO.

[quasi flicker]

Yea it didn’t work not with inspector not with Dlss tweaks

[dire pilot]

Crimson Desert resists every attempt to control it.

[dreamy field]

pretty much

best way to force custom scaling would be to use optiscaler probably

[sly vigil]

I respect it

[quasi flicker]

It does it through fsr but not Dlss

[dreamy field]

it should be able to force scaling ratios for dlss

[quasi flicker]

Could you show please because I could not get it right

[dreamy field]

keep in mind though if you use ray reconstruction dont turn it off and on again with optiscaler, it doesnt recognize the present change when its reenabled

[viscid wedge]

DLSS is poorly implemented, we know that. Best that can be done is that they overhaul it in a future patch but I doubt that will be soon.

[dire pilot]

I thought optiscaler was just a dll spoof. Does it have some secret sauce to alter dlss scaling that NVPI can't?

[viscid wedge]

Most are using it in this game for output scaling.

[quasi flicker]

Game completely ignores nvpi Dlss settings

[narrow frost]

The upper right trigger just broke on my steam controller playing Crimson Desert, no more light attacks.
RIP trigger 2018-2026.

[dreamy field]

in the optiscaler ini these lines here are for custom scaling

[quasi flicker]

Yea I tried those but they don’t seem to actually apply

I’ll give it a shot again in a bit

[dire pilot]

I tried to use display commander's driver override to force better scaling but CD resisted that as well

[quasi flicker]

My hope is I can get close enough to DLAA on quality setting without triggering that stupid black flickering

DLAA+ hdr glitch

[dire pilot]

It's seemingly permanently stuck in performance mode in RR

And even then, RR in performance mode on preset D shouldn't look this bad lol

[quasi flicker]

I run Dlss tweaks debug view that tells me actual output

Try that to confirm what’s the actual input - output resolution

[dreamy field]

yeah i tried to use a scaling resolution inbetween balaned and performance and it just outputs a black screen with nvpi, setting both SR and RR to the same scale since for some reason they have to be the same scale for both even though RR takes priority over SR

[dire pilot]

Yeah DC says it's 720 to 1440 for me with RR on

[quasi flicker]

So to remove that black screen just revert overrides

[rocky umbra]

I coudlnt get custom ratio's to work on my end.

[lucid thorn]

light mode scares me :p

[viscid wedge]

make sure nothing is gummed up at the config file level.

"C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Pearl Abyss\CD\save\user_engine_option_save.xml"

[rocky umbra]

Still no update - i feel theyre really cooking

[dreamy field]

if the game forces specific scaling percentages would changing

<EngineOptionResolution Name="_resolutionOption">
            <EnumSelectDisplayType Name="_displayType" _select="Borderless"/>
            <OptionStringVector Name="_upscaleModeSelect" _value="NVIDIA DLSS 4.0"/>
            <EnumSelectResolutionScale Name="_upscaleResolution" _select="50%">
                <Vector Name="_modeGroup" isOverrided="false">
                    <EnumOptionResolutionScale _localStr="UI_GameSetting_Common_Unuse"/>
                    <EnumOptionResolutionScale _mode="AA" _localStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_DLAA" _descLocalStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_NativeAADesc"/>
                    <EnumOptionResolutionScale _mode="67%" _localStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_Quality" _descLocalStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_QualityDesc"/>
                    <EnumOptionResolutionScale _mode="59%" _localStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_Balanced" _descLocalStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_BalancedDesc"/>
                    <EnumOptionResolutionScale _mode="50%" _localStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_Performance" _descLocalStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_PerformanceDesc"/>
                    <EnumOptionResolutionScale _mode="33%" _localStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_UltraPerformance" _descLocalStr="UI_GameSetting_Render_UpscaleResolution_UltraPerformanceDesc"/>
                </Vector>
            </EnumSelectResolutionScale>
        </EngineOptionResolution>

have any effect?

[dapper lake]

trying that rn acc

[karmic quest]

did this work for you?

[dapper lake]

probs not

i changed performaance, both perf and up cant be selected now

[dreamy field]

i wonder if setting isOverrided=true might allow dlss scaling overrides to work

[daring orbit]

Oh wow another update🥳

[quasi flicker]

Where ?

Of what ?

[rocky umbra]

wachu talking bout

[viscid wedge]

we're watching in realtime as people realize they check the pins at varying intervals

[lucid thorn]

next patch gonna fix everything trust 😂

[quasi flicker]

Yea if you check the stuff 3 days ago then it’s new only to you

Buddy

[dreamy field]

ngl i saw this and checked steam if CD got an update then the pearl abyss news incase steam didnt update, and then the pins here after reading that ngl lmao...

[rocky umbra]

rookie numbers - im here every few hours

[quasi flicker]

But that’s what I mean

[rocky umbra]

i have a problem

[quasi flicker]

We are all waiting for a miracle

And procrastinating

Instead of playing the fucking game

Lmao

[rocky umbra]

Sometimes divine intervention is enough 😁

[lilac geyser]

are there photo comparisons of the light fix

[dire pilot]

I'd be playing today if I wasn't hosting for the weekend 😭

[stray grove]

sam just trolling us

[dapper lake]

uh ive done something but i cant check what

image is the same accross all presets but i dont think dlss is on ngl

[quasi flicker]

You changed the string that names it

[dapper lake]

aye didnt expect it to die completely though lmao

im p sure dlss is off

[quasi flicker]

Pull up Dlss tweaks and run a debug it’ll show the actual resolution

[crude marsh]

the fact that basically everything is hardcoded in the code is pure pain

[spare lintel]

hi, sorry for silly question but just to confirm please, the latest/best version for this mod is getting the two mods in the pinnes messages here? the reno + let there be more light? Im playiing with max lightning quality with Nvidia RR, there wont be any clashes right? Thanks

[dreamy field]

also in reshade there should be 2 depth buffers at the DLSS resolution as well, no idea why there's 2 depth buffers but that should show you the resolution

[quasi flicker]

One for fg one for Dlss ?

[dapper lake]

^ill check that ive not used dlss tweaks for ages and didnt get it working last i tried

[dreamy field]

ive tested with and without, i still have 2 depth buffers for some reason

[dapper lake]

ah shit nvm generic depth off one sec

[viscid wedge]

nope. only need the lighting mod if you intend to run the auto exposure setting in Reno

[karmic quest]

High res castle the very back

[subtle nova]

Should we update DLSS lib to latest version or keep game's default?

[shut badge]

after dduing performance got slightly better

[dapper lake]

just went and checked notepad its changed this lol thats the answer "<EnumOptionResolutionScale _localStr="UI_GameSetting_Common_Unuse"/>"

[spare lintel]

mind telling me what auto exposure is exactly? I mean I can guess that it changes the exposure setting but based on what? Thanks

[shut badge]

running all max settings, dlss 4.0 UP, fg and rr

surprised that it doesnt look as soft as I thought

before it wasnt locked at 120fps even at ultra settings but now it is

[dapper lake]

id changed the string "<EnumSelectResolutionScale Name="_upscaleResolution" _select="67%">" it just disabled it until relaunch

[jagged charm]

I get that sunlight is bright and all but uhh, this seems a bit much? I'm using the "Recommended" preset with only some raised contrast/saturation (they're not causing this)

[karmic quest]

Lower exposure

[carmine monolith]

turn exposure down

I like having exposure at like 0.15 at night and maybe 0.55-0.85 at day

[dreamy field]

i turned my HDR exposure down in game from the default 50 to 25 and it fixed the global brightness permanently

[faint bobcat]

new build

The Resahde Preset

[dreamy field]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[jagged charm]

Thanks for the exposure tips

it just sounds sooooo low i didn't try it

[karmic quest]

lmfao, I find Kliffs "Yes" so funny

when he has his mask on sounds so goofy

[quasi flicker]

fuck it send it

[quartz tendon]

Hope that is at night

[karmic quest]

gas mask effect, love it

[exotic bridge]

Need to make this ?

[karmic quest]

Nah, switching to DLAA it was disabling RR thats why image looked sharper when I switched back to DLSS 4.0

Because RR was disabled

[exotic bridge]

Ooh ok, thanks

RR so blurry 🙁

[karmic quest]

Nothing we can do

[jade magnet]

]same for me

[neon whale]

Played 8 hours today. Losing reputation for stealing when there is no one around to see you it's stupid.

And the game is so blurry

Feels like the graphics is smeared in vaseline

[dreamy field]

i love that its the dude who voices adam smasher too

[dapper lake]

I think ive got it working, as far as DLSS tweaks is concerned at least

[jade spruce]

this is the anti-anti-soul gas

[dapper lake]

in the user_engine_option_save config file when 2.25x is on a viewport size line appears, editing that seems to work

<EngineOptionResolution Name="_resolutionOption" Template="/OS_M_Windows::Default.engineoptionresolution">
<OptionInt2Vector Name="_viewportSize" _value="3413 1920">
<Vector Name="_enableGroup" isOverrided="true">
<int2 Value="1280 720"/>
<int2 Value="1280 1024"/>
<int2 Value="1440 900"/>
<int2 Value="1920 1080"/>
<int2 Value="2560 1440"/>
<int2 Value="3840 2160"/>
<int2 Value="3413 1920"/>

After launch it ends up looking like this

[dreamy field]

interesting

[dapper lake]

i think dlss tweaks may be getting it wrong tho

[karmic quest]

Modders here already said it forces in certain presets.

I think as long as there is denuvo on it you won't ever be able to force something else on it ? Could be wrong tho lol

[dapper lake]

scaling is defo wrong

performance is 50% scaling right?

[karmic quest]

One dude on reddit also said that the whole pipeline for dlss implementation is wrong

[dapper lake]

its saying on 3412x1920 that my input res is 1704x960

[dire pilot]

Thief glove solves this but it has a 30 minute cooldown

[dire pilot]

Yeah it forces performance mode no matter what

So it will always be half res

[dapper lake]

im more trying to determine whether or not the game has accepted a custom resolution or dlss tweaks is wrong lmao

[dire pilot]

If it's anything other than half, it's doing something different with RR

[neon whale]

30 minutes

[dire pilot]

There's a mod that removes the CD but it's json only and that mod manager crashes my game

[dapper lake]

okay yep its accepted the custom res i think

measurable performance difference between native, the 2,25x dldsr setting and the extra one ive added

but

[cyan veldt]

Anyone get a weird defender alarm for renodx 😕?

[dapper lake]

and as far as dlss tweaks its working

[dire pilot]

False positive

[cyan veldt]

Thank you

[dapper lake]

okay ive only played for like 2 minutes but i think dlaa black bars are gone too ????

[manic valve]

got a link?

[dire pilot]

Waiting 30 minutes in between stealing goats for the fence last night lol

[manic valve]

Driver version also matters

I think the best Nvidia driver out right now is 595.79. No microstutter, great performance, no weird issues.

[viscid wedge]

I just went from 581.57 to 595.97, nothing weird so far

[manic valve]

as long as you're not on 595.59 lol

That was the one that got pulled because it stopped some of the fans on the GPU from working

Good old vibe coded AI Nvidia drivers

[stray grove]

@manic valve i just updated to 595.97 did a clean install the framegen issue i was getting with it are gone now somehow

i tried 2 days ago and framegen did not feel smooth somehow

[manic valve]

That's awesome!

[naive jackal]

I tried out the new hotfix driver and my monitor wouldn't stop switching between sdr and hdr until i removed it

[manic valve]

Yeah different drivers will perform differently with frame gen, VR etc.

[stray grove]

maybe clean install did the tricks idk ahah

[manic valve]

That's why I go on Guru3D, those guys are crazy enough to install EVERY driver and test it on tons of games

[stray grove]

at this point with nvidia its a gamble like all driver have issue with one thing or a other

[manic valve]

Yes, Nvidia drivers are horrible now. Which is ironic after 15 years of people screaming that AMD drivers are so bad.

(which they weren't, both companies have bad driver branches and fuckups)

[stray grove]

so true

im so ocd with those thing i will literally swap driver multiple time in a day to test 😂

[thick zenith]

How are you guys enjoying the game? Getting more and more tempted to buy it.

[stray grove]

just for 1fps diff

[wispy crown]

AMD drivers aren't bad. Just their software feature stack is lightyears behind Nvidia.

[stray grove]

@thick zenith if you approach the game has a open world sandbox its awesome don't expect a big story rpg kinda game

and ofc you gotta ignore all the visual quirk

[naive jackal]

Back in the early to mid 2000s what you would hear is Nvidia for driver stability and ATi for image quality, now with 50 series you can't use 16x AF and you don't have stable drivers 😆

[manic valve]

LOL I remember those days

the 9700 and 9800 Pro did beat the fuck out of Nvidia's garbage 5xx series back in the day

Remember the giant leaf blower coolers?

[viscid wedge]

There is a lot of noise, lotta people who have something go wrong and scream bad drivers who can't accurately diagnose anything in the first place. I take it all with a grain of salt.

[naive jackal]

Can't remember which card but nvidia had one that people called the lawnmower and leafblower cos of how loud it was

[manic valve]

It used to be so crazy because they'd go back and forth for the crown and neither could rest

[manic valve]

yeah the 5xx series

[naive jackal]

That was also back it was still Titanium Edition instead the shortened Ti

[manic valve]

sorry

58xx

[stray grove]

@manic valve my 5070ti start whinning like so loud sometime

[manic valve]

use a custom fan curve on MSI Afterburner or Fan Control

[manic valve]

It was always Ti IIRC

I had a GeForce 2 Ti back in the day

[static crag]

that's what I do on mine

[naive jackal]

Worst ever Nv card was the 7950GX2, atrocious

[stray grove]

its not even the fan though its the coil whine

[manic valve]

I think it's the 5800 Ultra tbh

[static crag]

what's the model?

[manic valve]

That thing was a fuckin stinker

[steady orbit]

this game at day looks amazing, at night texture is so bad. is any fix for this?

[static crag]

i never hear coil whine

[naive jackal]

Nah mate 7950GX2 make the 5800 look good

[static crag]

not even a lil bit

[manic valve]

Try setting it to 0% at lower temps so that it stops spinning

[static crag]

my old 4070 used to do some but not that much

[stray grove]

@static crag msi shadow 3X

[static crag]

holy

didnt even notice

at what temperature?

[stray grove]

its not always presenmt though coil whine only happen in some situation

[manic valve]

oh the 7950GX2 was that dual GPU card

[naive jackal]

The 7950GX2 was a dual card that nothing worked on for ages because of the borked drivers, it also came out close to the Nvidia 8000 series release 🤣

[stray grove]

my temps always under 70c

[manic valve]

Ummm wherever the GPU idles at

So if it idles at like 37c, set 0% to 35c-45c

[static crag]

its at 30 rn

[manic valve]

Set it to 0% from 25 to 45c

And monitor temps

a decent amount of GPUS have zero RPM functions now

[manic valve]

yeah I remember now. It was their big shoehorned garbage before 8800 Ultra and GTX

[naive jackal]

Still remember the store guy trying to sell me on the 7950GX2, i was just like nah i'll wait a few months for the 8800GTX

[manic valve]

I had an 8800 GT

Epic fuckin card for $300 lol

I remember when the benchmarks came out and it was almost as fast as a GTX. Crazy times.

[naive jackal]

the 8800 Ultra also terrible, came out like a year aftre the GTX was like 3% faster and cost double

[manic valve]

Yeah those higher end Nvidia cards were not worth the money back in the day

[naive jackal]

The 8800GTX was fire

[manic valve]

Now... 4090 was the smartest purchase for anyone that got it in the last 4 years

And it'll still be good 4 yrs from now

[manic valve]

yeah but I was a poor 18 yr old so all I could get was an 8800GT LOL

[static crag]

damn

i got the palit 3x small version

[wispy crown]

Got my 4090 in October 2022 for under 2000€ while I sold my old 3090 for 1200€. Best upgrade I've done.

[static crag]

the cheapest I could find cuz I have fans below the gpu

[manic valve]

crazy how futureproof the 4090 is

It's the new 1080ti

[wispy crown]

Yeah the only thing I hate about it is the 24GB VRAM. I wish it had 32GB for any VFX related work.

[manic valve]

I mean most people are stuck at 16GB or below so 24GB is still ballin

[forest elk]

I have 5070ti, wish I could find a cheap one and instantly trade it with mine

[stray grove]

@static crag its not bad though can barely ear it

[viscid wedge]

as an owner, it already feels outdated

[wispy crown]

Buuut hey good chances the RTX 6090 will either be 48GB or 64GB

[manic valve]

yeah but it's like a 4 yr old GPU lol

[wispy crown]

And probably will bankrupt me

[manic valve]

The 6090 will be $6090 lol

[forest elk]

4090 is 4yr old? omg I'm old

[manic valve]

the 6090 will be $6090. It'll have 48gb of RAM. Still use a 12vhpwr connector. And be 25% faster than a 5090. Oh and it'll use 800w

[static crag]

damn really? Im happy with mine

especially since this will be the last gen for a while

[forest elk]

I am too, but recently I got an 4k oled so I think I need a little bit of more performance

but still, it's a good gpu indeed

coming from a 3080

[static crag]

ohhh

[manic valve]

Oops we accidentally collapsed the GPU industry so people can generate videos of Goku skateboarding, my bad

[ruby lark]

Does renodx force shader compiling first time loading the game with it

[viscid wedge]

yes

[ruby lark]

Thanks

[dapper lake]

no reno atm, but got custom base resolutions working now for sure @hollow pollen

[karmic quest]

what is causing this?

some kind of white particles around the characters

[manic valve]

the weird glitchy shit in cutscenes?

[wispy crown]

Are you on Preset E RR?

[manic valve]

I only have crazy visual glitches in cutscenes, nowhere else

[karmic quest]

Yeah its in cutscenes

[wispy crown]

I had these issues using Preset E RR instead of Preset D which is the default.

[karmic quest]

I have kept default RR and DLSS

[wispy crown]

Output Res and which DLSS quality level?

[karmic quest]

1440P, DLSS Quality

[wispy crown]

Hmm could be that 960p upscaled is just too much noise for RR

You can make a bug report to Pearl Abyss. Somewhere here the link was posted.

[karmic quest]

I doubt I'm the only one reporting it so I'll just wait

Luckily the exploration is great so I can forgive something lol

[manic valve]

maybe I'll try D

Has anyone picked up a random wild animal as Kliff and dropped it?

He just throws it on the ground lol

Like a casual toss

[dapper lake]

giving that kid the sheep you think is his to him and you drop it on its fucking back

[crude marsh]

this goldleaf merchant traitor quest

is insufferable

also dear god my eyes

the shadow flickering

I would love to turn off shadow casting on the hip lantern

[karmic quest]

what about it

[crude marsh]

go to 6 locations and talk to a dude and find 3 things at every location

[finite anvil]

I dont think I saw anyone talk about DLAA artifacts like this before. I tried searching for it but it seems I either count find it or there was no mention of it

[crude marsh]

then talk to shakatu WITH THE WORST MENU EVER

[karmic quest]

Wait for one House Serkis quest, you may want to quit the game lol

[crude marsh]

people have mentioned this 1000 times

[viscid wedge]

and the horrible L2 method for pinpointing things to interact with

[rocky umbra]

Its literally designed to take longer. Some of the desing choices are moronic.

[foggy dust]

Video's not playing for me, but if it's the black bars flickering at the top -- yeah, HDR + DLAA is borked.

[dapper lake]

i think i may have a fix

im testing more rn

[crude marsh]

pause, choose an option, pause HMM NOPE NOT THAT ONE, pause, choose another, pause....

6 times

[brittle egret]

@nova cargo it uses the generic ue lutbuilder in native hdr