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[pure sundial]

ahahaha

[viscid wedge]

that side quest to win 3 duo rounds in a row i'll never complete. not a chance.

[wise flax]

I had to set up my mouse for the archery and treat it like an fps. Set acceleration to 100 and its responsive.

[lucid thorn]

they gave me a run for my money on M&K 😄

[lucid thorn]

yeah this

[golden scaffold]

And it's still bullshit?

[viscid wedge]

its 100% still bullshit

[dire pilot]

in Where Winds Meet, you can build walls around the archery opponent to cheat wins lol

[lucid thorn]

I got super lucky and left right after

[viscid wedge]

though somehow I completed that one though never winning 3 rounds (archery)

[crude marsh]

I overshot every single target on mouse consistently lol, idk i felt like I had a shit ton of accel

[analog root]

No

[lucid thorn]

excellent

[analog root]

They stay with you, just tested it now

[dire pilot]

I couldn't even move to the target with pad before the opponent fired

[wise flax]

@crude marsh Because you need mouse acceleration at 100

[crude marsh]

it is at 100

[lucid thorn]

If you turn camera accel or whatever it is to 100% it's super responsive, same with controller

[wise flax]

Also controller acceleration at 100 helps a ton too imo.

[lucid thorn]

nice tree

That's super weird lazorr 🤔

[wise flax]

It is much more responsive at 100 and actually feels usable. I thought it would have needed to be on 0, but nope.

[crude marsh]

feels fine except when doing archery

[analog root]

Just respec to show to you, the active ones were learned observing

[lucid thorn]

same 😄

[lucid thorn]

oh I appreciate it, that makes sense

Archery messed me up when I thought you had to hold Q to shoot

[wise flax]

Anything below 100 and it floats for half a second after you stop inputting. It legitimately felt like turning a car without power steering trying to control Kliff before I switched accel to 100.

[lucid thorn]

But its Q to ready and then mouse

[viscid wedge]

also when I switched to mouse for archery, i was losing it with left click to actually shoot. i dunno if that was just me but it was NOT responding without smashing the damn button a couple times intermittently. everything about that activity just felt bad

[analog root]

Time to reload my save, I did it just to show lmao

[lucid thorn]

hahahaha yeah

[crude marsh]

yeah....

and then sometimes you would shoot through the target and wouldnt register

[lucid thorn]

and on controller I accidentally let arrows go half the time I go to focus cause I'm not paying enough attention

[pure sundial]

Is anyone here up to chapter 8? Fucking shadow harpies are making my life a living hell

[lucid thorn]

I just made it to chapter 4

I'm only 46 hours in it's fine

[wise flax]

Is there a way to cancel shooting an arrow? I've been rolling if I accidentally pull out my bow, but that feels silly.

[analog root]

Use the blinding attack to destroy them

[lucid thorn]

thats the only way I found

[analog root]

Pretty easy

[analog root]

Just rolling

[crude marsh]

there is on mouse i think but I cant find a way on controller

[analog root]

No button to actually cancel the shot

On controller at least

[wise flax]

Yeah thats what I thought

I guess they ran out of button combos or something

[lucid thorn]

honestly it'd make the most sense to just use like, left on the d pad to cancel in that case

since that's the sheathe button

Or X/A

[wise flax]

Yeah A makes you run and then immediately shoot when you stop running lol

Also another tip if you want to force palm something below you crouch and it'll aim below you.

[lucid thorn]

and also if you're hanging on a wall you can hold the ranged button to brace on the wall so you don't fly off when you force palm

[analog root]

You can also jump and force palm in the air if crouch doesn't work

[wise flax]

Yeah, but that puts you into the air. I believe there are some puzzles where you need to force palm a grate to open it and drop down.

[lucid thorn]

oh I learned how to mine that special ore earlier. That's kinda cool

[lucid thorn]

there are indeed

[wise flax]

I found one and couldn't figure it out so I left. I need to go back and do it now that I've figured it out. I thought it was an ability I didn't have yet.

[novel jay]

Are ya'll not experiencing this?

[analog root]

Yeah. There's a skill also that lets you force palm using the L3 grab

[wise flax]

Yeah I have that now

[viscid wedge]

there is a trap door like that at St. Halssius's House of Healing for a chest

[analog root]

Very useful ngl. I don't even cling to walls anymore

[lucid thorn]

well it kinda is

but there's a second way to do it :p

[wise flax]

Yeah the crouch force palm thing is just something you have to find on your own.

[viscid wedge]

and by trapdoor it was some sort spinning false floor

[lucid thorn]

like me earlier, I set one of those wooden archery towers on fire by aiming the glint off my sword :p

but suplexing guys through it also works

[viscid wedge]

i keep hearing that, what move is that?

[viscid wedge]

I love hitting the sploding barrels near the archery towers

[wise flax]

@viscid wedge grappling level 2 "Lariat"

[lucid thorn]

R1+L1 to raise your sword, then let go of L1 and hold L1 while raised - you did it once in the tutorial :p

Or the suplex is yeah haha

take your pick :p

[viscid wedge]

Ah ok yeah the grappling

[lucid thorn]

ah my bad :p

I grabbed it 'cause I ended up doing a wrestling thing

and I had no wrestling moves

[pure sundial]

Just got an amulet that lets me change the weather to sunny when its raining

thats gonna be nice until the rain gets fixed

[viscid wedge]

so it has a button combo to do it? I have one thats supposed to sing some sorta song by pressing L2+R2 but that of course just pulls out my weapons. Not sure how that works

[lucid thorn]

I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea how the R2+L2 stuff works. If you open your equipment wheel and hover it and let go, it'll activate

that's the only way i've been able to activate

[pure sundial]

no idea I just got it haven't tested it yet

[lucid thorn]

It also lifts hoods on cloaks if applicable, or raises your helmet visor if applicable

[viscid wedge]

ok i didn't even get that far

[lucid thorn]

like same control scheme, equipment wheel, hover and close it

You can also turn on/off your torch that way

[viscid wedge]

Yeah I've got the torch on/off/auto figured out

[lucid thorn]

It's also how you equip your slot for longswords/pickaxes/etc

[lucid thorn]

you don't even have to click into it

can just hover and let go to toggle it

[viscid wedge]

hmm, i gotta play with it again i guess

[lucid thorn]

you can do either or, just faster that way :p

[viscid wedge]

yeah I want faster, it was clunky the other way lol

[lucid thorn]

:p

[viscid wedge]

oh shoot, it does turn it on and off! i didn't notice I guess

[lucid thorn]

same mechanic to toggle your gear and amulets and stuff!

but yeah I haven't figured out the L2+R2 thing on some gear..

especially cause hovering does the same thing

[analog root]

God this gold bar farm is insane, 8 gold bars in a couple of minutes

[viscid wedge]

details

[hoary knot]

This outfit works so well with the fat orange cat 😭

[pure sundial]

please tell us how

[lucid thorn]

pretty sure he's just robbing nobles

[analog root]

Get to demeniss and just pickpocket all the nobles in that location with the red mark on the map

[viscid wedge]

oh, i'm no where near that, nevermind lol

[analog root]

You can walk there if you want too

Just grab a horse and you'll be good to go

[analog root]

But you can do the same in the first city

Just steal from the nobles lmao

Make sure to do a save before trying if things get messy

[lucid thorn]

you can use your lantern on nobles to see if they have a gold bar in their pocket

some have recipes

[analog root]

You can use the sword too, it's a little bit quicker

[lucid thorn]

ah yeah, either or

[pure sundial]

Aren't people in Demeniss hostile until a certain point in the main story?

[analog root]

Yes. But not in that place, there are no guards there

So it's a safe spot

[pure sundial]

ah

[hoary knot]

Alright time to take from the rich

[pure sundial]

Time to do a robin hood except I'm not giving to the poor

[hoary knot]

I am the poor!

[analog root]

This is what it looks like when they have the gold bar. But just a quick tip, the first try to steal it will always give you a trash item. Run outside the red area and come back. Pickpocket again and I'll get 2 gold bars most of the time

[pure sundial]

70 hrs btw...

[analog root]

100 hrs!

[worldly swan]

Some of us had to configure DOS before playing games, lol

[manic valve]

There used to be games that would delete your whole fucking hard drive if you encountered a certain bug

[hoary vector]

game what are you trying to tell me

you get some real oddly timed notifications/tutorials in this game

[rose shuttle]

yeah but configuring your OS is an unavoidable thing: developers can't test every possible configuration

testing DLSS with HDR enabled is trivial and they can't even manage that

[viscid wedge]

this valley is quite picturesque

[sick monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FJFcDmWWbw

what if the driver is the problem as well?

[mortal wolf]

i did the thing

psychov-14, has dynamic scaling of exposure, not camera-like. human-like

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-tired-boss-gif-15443003937623411884

[viscid wedge]

👀 You are a national treasure

In tomorrows build for CD, right? 😉

[mortal wolf]

probably, need to iron out some more stuff

basically it lets you boost/balance exposure but compensates in a normal way, so you still get full hdr, even in dark spots

[viscid wedge]

sounds exciting, can't wait to see how it performs!

[sick monolith]

do we also need larzorr's mod for this?

[mortal wolf]

idk, maybe. i just do math

we're not cameras, we don't see stuff in linear exposure

[vivid iris]

lazorrs mod will always be needed if we darken the game

[mortal wolf]

v11- v14 with clamp max: 800/100 nits

basically it boosts respecting how human vision boosts

not a flat everything scales up linearly

[vivid iris]

so is it like a fancy local exposure?

[sick monolith]

the thing is my game doesn't want to boot when i replace the paz file but it's alright. i'll try to figure it out.

[mortal wolf]

more like, exposure follow naka rushton curve, not a input pre boost

because a flat boost is bad. if i wanted 4 nits to boost 5x to 20 nits, i don't want 800 nits to boost to 2000 nits

[mortal wolf]

ow

sure a flat boost is what cameras do, but we're not cameras

[vivid iris]

I had a realization a bit ago (a simple one) but since the game both gets too bright at night and too dim during the day, I could just do mid point of 1.f on exposure and apply contrast to squeeze it down. It...works pretty well so far

[sick monolith]

will this scene look brighter on my 3000 nit display?

[mortal wolf]

it ends up boosting brights at night, like a dynamic contrast system

[crude marsh]

I was getting really annoyed earlier by the flat darkness at night, just felt off

[mortal wolf]

because when your eyes start focusing on dark stuff, the really really bright stuff feel overwhelmingly bright, as it it should. you were focusing on 4 nits, so that 2000 nit thing should feel inversely stronger

[vivid iris]

maybe this could work better in log or something idk

[mortal wolf]

no log. naka rushton

fishmap

we don't see in log

we see in fishmap

log is closer but not as exact

float3 NakaRushton(float3 x, float3 peak = 1.0f, float3 anchor_in = 0.18f, float3 anchor_out = 0.18f, float cone_response_exponent = 1.f) {
  float3 peak_minus_anchor_out = peak - anchor_out;
  float3 n = cone_response_exponent * peak / peak_minus_anchor_out;
  float3 a_n = pow(anchor_in, n);
  float3 x_n = pow(x, n);
  float3 x_n_anchor_out = x_n * anchor_out;
  float3 num = peak * x_n_anchor_out;
  float3 den = mad(a_n, peak_minus_anchor_out, x_n_anchor_out);
  return num / den;
}

[crude marsh]

its interesting how the idea of applying human vision principles seems/is novel

[mortal wolf]

in this case i say, if the averaeg was 3 nits, and the game wants 2x exposure (to boost the average). then it's not boost 0.18 to 0.36. it's boost 0.03 to 0.06, and let naka rushton take care of what happens after

desmos play thing: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/pu2vzff8t0

[sly swift]

how’s the game / dev been going

[vivid iris]

so this will essentially make whatever exposure value we feed it look a bit more natural right? It's not about drastically changing the exposure itself?

[daring orbit]

we just need a retexure, and new lods

[mortal wolf]

everyone, literally everyone copies film+cameras. but film+cameras are just copying what looks right to humans, in other words. it's a replication of the human vision system. so just skip the film, go straight to human

[daring orbit]

and this game would be a lot better

[sly swift]

shortfuse how many hours do you have on this game just by developing

[brazen portal]

quick question. with RenoDX do I still use the in-game HDR or turn it off?

[sick monolith]

what's the maximum nits i can input? maybe i can use 10k nits then just activate DTM on top of HGiG in my TV

[vivid iris]

on

[mortal wolf]

exposure is strictly a camera term. you adjust the exposure by widening the lens. in human turns that's adjusting the pupil size to then pass through to your rods and cones in yours eyeballs. similar in concept but the differences can feel "uncanny"

[vivid iris]

so...is it replacing the game's exposure system?

[mortal wolf]

you shouldn't. your TV processing is mostly ass

[sick monolith]

u dont trust the bravia 9? 🥹

[vivid iris]

just trying to get an idea of how it interfaces with what the game is doing

[mortal wolf]

at best the histogram is giving you rolling luminance history and, uh, suggested exposure for the tonemapper as a prestep

[mortal wolf]

literally have not moved yet

but ask me (or don't) how many hours i'm spending reading science papers

[sly swift]

how much

are you sharing stuff you find interesting in archives?

[mortal wolf]

i try to keep archives as goated material

i dump in #🧪lab

[sly swift]

oh bet

[sick monolith]

i mean by this logic, it infers that a brighter peak nits display will result in better image at night?

[sly swift]

time to from:

[mortal wolf]

the human eye gets crisp AF at night, you see super saturated colors that you can't see in the day time. a flat exposure denies you that

and you need a display that has the power to independently show saturation to get that. it's cheap to show white. it's more expensive to show just a "third" of white as just red/green/blue. so displays capable of getting bright (showing bright white) are generally also strong at showing pure colors

so the exposure i'm designing does move the target brightness up, yes, but also forces contrast/saturation to bump as it would in real life, at night

without* crushing black as contrast normally does when you just set to target midtones

[gritty steppe]

Good night, is there a new version since yesterday night?

[mortal wolf]

because there are no "midtones" in your eye, your eye puts whatever it's adjusted to as the "middle" (even 2 nits)

[hardy owl]

Apparently not

[gritty steppe]

I noticed it says: light fix still recommended, what is this light fix?

[rocky umbra]

Check the pinned messages - ALWAYS check the pinned messages.

[gritty steppe]

my bad 🙁

[viscid wedge]

its the mod directly below that one

[hollow kiln]

Seen mention of BRDF, Specular AA, diffraction recommended OFF when not using RR.

I can't even see the difference when any of those settings are changed so am gonna leave them as is 😛

[faint bobcat]

diffraction was borked, I fixed it now

[mossy gust]

lol

[faint bobcat]

Vanilla Burley / EON

vanilla just looks wrong

everything is dark for no reason

[rocky umbra]

Looks punchy, works on most ppl 🤷‍♂️

Slight differences in the first/second - abit more detail because its more red? 🤔

[mossy gust]

you can tell on the armor, i'm just not sure which is which, one looks silver and the other is more rust colored

[faint bobcat]

woops third pic is wrong order

[rocky umbra]

And on the wall in the background - slightly more detail

[hoary vector]

odd outline with non-vanilla disffuse BRDF in this location

[hollow kiln]

Yeah I'm using EON without RR and do not have that boxy problem some people are getting. Lucky me 🙂

[faint bobcat]

vanilla / specular AA

I know the description says AA as in stopping alaising and shimmering, however in the base game they also nuked specular a lot so you lose it in instances like these

so specular AA is restoring specular in addition

[rocky umbra]

Id say default is better on the ground/foliage but not on the trees.

[hoary vector]

Oh i didnt realize my RR got turned off. With RR, no boxy outlilne

[hollow kiln]

Small details like that make all the difference. Those specular highlights not being there is a crime

[hoary vector]

Are you all preferring DLSS4 or 4.5?

[faint bobcat]

"A different approach was proposed by Clausen et al. [2023]. They acquired a multimodal dataset of aluminum samples with varying roughness, which they used to analyze diffraction phenomena on rough surfaces.
Their analysis shows that single reflections, predominately in the forward scattering, lead to a linear wavelength shift toward long wavelengths, thus to a reddish appearance.
Analogously, multiple scattering, predominately in backscattering, leads to a linear shift toward short wavelengths, hence a bluish appearance"

so basically the metal here should be bluer

not red

whats what I am going for anyways

[mossy gust]

interesting, yeah, i think the bluer looks more accurate

[hollow kiln]

it's more what you expect to see - even if not knowing the science behind it

[faint bobcat]

its even easier

"SMH, even the metals are pink"

[sudden pulsar]

Plot twist, these armors have a thin layer of copper on top of the iron/steel

[hollow kiln]

sticking to this one for now cause the adaptation doesn't turn to night time looking at rocks or wheat fields: #1469072401450012774 message

[naive jackal]

@Forge Is that a universal or metal type dependant, with the sample being aluminium and medieval armour being iron and steel?

[hollow kiln]

I sleep. will continue providing useless feedback later ❤️ thanks for all the hard work fixing teh graphics

[smoky fog]

finally worked up the ambition to try RenoDx and the mod for this game (I have not done this before) and WOWWWWW the effects on nighttime are a massive improvement. I love this!

[rocky umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-the-sun-xavier-michelides-donate-now-donate-money-gif-21647507

[faint bobcat]

RR off?

The game spawns a new titled deferred shader that handles their diffuse code

[hoary vector]

Yeah, had accidentaly gotten it toggled off

[faint bobcat]

for cloth and hair

[rough granite]

Damn was hoping to wake to new Forge release 😝

It feels like you never sleep, what’s your timezone?

[young pebble]

does updating to new reno version causes shader compilation again?

[sick monolith]

would you mind sharing your settings? and also do you have the lights mod by lazorr installed in this clip?

[bleak niche]

Adrenaliner.

[sick monolith]

warm vs cool steel?

[faint bobcat]

https://jcgt.org/published/0013/01/01/

Different metals have different diffraction so the spectral hue shift will be different. Neutral metals do red to blue. Coloured ones like gold would do orange/red

I dont have per metal / asset tuning but in the shader we have F0 which is specular reflectance. I then modulated the diffration from that

so the metals should atleast in game all look different

they shouldnt have the same red to blue

[naive jackal]

Nice!

[faint bobcat]

As Joshua said, the steel / iron might acktually have copper alloy inside

so I might acktually be wrong

and should nuke the setting

[hardy owl]

@faint bobcat Forge how's the contact shadows progress going?

[rocky umbra]

But seriously, Forge, Lazorr, Jon - can i at least buy you guys a six pack?

Where do i send the cash? You guys deserve it and we appreciate the work (especially us oldies) 😁

[ruby tusk]

They have ko-fi links on the RenoDX UI

[sick monolith]

a mix of both in 1 scene. u are a wizard 💯

[sudden pulsar]

Or maybe it's made of oxidized titanium 🤡

[mossy gust]

the snow areas have pretty bad dimming/exposure whatever

you look at the ground and the screen darkens by 40 percent

during the day i mean

[sleek veldt]

THis is

....

[pure sundial]

wtf

[rocky umbra]

Any frame gen players here ? Do you see a difference with responsiveness when disabled> Ive gotta admit, jumping, gliding is just so clunky. It sucks exploring and dealing with that human truck that is kliff.

[fossil rover]

I don't, but it's probably because playing Kliff is already like piloting a Mars Rover.

[frozen shale]

I only play with frame gen on.

94 hours in Crimson Desert now! Good night lol

I'm so tired...

[manic valve]

I think Pearl Abyss could release a high res texture pack

[stray grove]

@rocky umbra cant afford not using framegen when using max setting and RR on framegen is a requirement literally

[young pebble]

Max lighting increase my gpu power consumption by 30w, -30fps but also improves visuals a lot

[manic valve]

They clearly targeted VRAM usage around 8gb cards

[manic valve]

Frame gen doesn't seem to increase latency in any noticeable way with Reflex on. I think you'd notice the latency from having low base FPS way more

[stray grove]

@manic valve def need minimum 45-50fps and framegen feel really smooth

[rocky umbra]

i prefer the 70-80 range , then its really smoth.

[manic valve]

I just run mine at 70 since my screen is 144 hz and Gsync takes it to 140 hz

Works perfectly

[rocky umbra]

Ive always struggled to understand LFC - is running at 50 (with lfc to 100) better than 60 (which just plain 60).?

[manic valve]

Depends on the game

I would say for a racing game for example

60 fps would feel better than 50 fps frame genned to 100

But in Crimson Desert, 50 fps frame genned to 100 would probably feel/respond better

This might sound crazy but for example, Forza Horizon 5

I can run at 140 fps no problem without frame gen. Or 70x2 with

And 140 real fps feels better, quite a bit better. 70 is still good but you notice that smidge of delay

It depends on how responsive your inputs need to be, essentially

[grand maple]

how do i download?

for crimson desert

[manic valve]

Check the pinned messages in this chat

[grand maple]

please and thank you

[manic valve]

Get those files and install

[fossil rover]

Literally on the title 💀

[brazen coyote]

I got the files and installed but I don't know what to do next

Is there a guide for usage I can check?

[flat bear]

drop it into ur bin64 folder of the game

and install reshade if u havent already

[brazen coyote]

Yeah, I have reshade, I put the files in the right place

[grand maple]

yo lead me to the water cause i cant find it

[brazen coyote]

How do I make sure reshade is using the 2 files in the pins tho

[flat bear]

load into the game and press the home keybind

renodx tab should be there

[manic valve]

https://github.com/RankFTW/RenoDXChecker/releases

I recommend using this to install and manage.

[brazen coyote]

oh it gets its own reshade tab, I see

Guess I fucked something up then, it ain't there

thanks for the help, I'll just reinstall and check out the checker as well

[manic valve]

That will do the install for you

And update files as well

[brazen coyote]

neat

[manic valve]

It also installs on per game basis

So you can easily uninstall

[flat bear]

should see this in ur bin

along with reshade files

[grand maple]

where are you guys finding the link!?

im going crazy

[flat bear]

https://tenor.com/view/btweers-gif-12554037691025205909

[grand maple]

im not joking haha i really feel this stupid

please help me

[flat bear]

its in the pins bro

[grand maple]

so i can stop embarassing myself

where!?

where the pin

xD

[swift geyser]

top right

on desktop app

[grand maple]

omg thank you

im literally a begger npc in crimson desert and you changed my life

lol

[swift geyser]

im having trouble deciding which one of these is the best

[flat bear]

🫡

[swift geyser]

kaiser is supposed to be better with less artificing than lanczos but i see no difference between them

[brazen coyote]

the thing is, the way discord works on desktop, clicking the forum here puts the chat into a side view that hides the pin icon, it's hidden inside 3 dots

which is why nobody sees there are pins

Anyway goop, the reason things were broken for me was because I had regular reshade, not the full add on support version, got it workin now. Thanks again for helpin

[flat bear]

ye

[hardy owl]

I am not very familiar to Discord and had the same issue in the beginning as well

[flat bear]

fair but considering his acc is 10 years old i figured he would at least have an idea

[brazen coyote]

Forums are a fairly recent addition to discord

and severely underutilized

but no matter, I have more questions about this addon if you don't mind

[flat bear]

true

[flat bear]

?

[brazen coyote]

Are the presets decent or is there a list of recommended settings to apply?

[flat bear]

theres a recommend button

personally i would use it and then tweak some things to ur liking

[brazen coyote]

Ah I see, it flipped all the settings too haha

Yeah I just wanted to start at what was considered a good baseline, thanks

gosh I'm excited to see how much this fixes

[flat bear]

it does a really good job honestly

especially with the lettherebemorelight

[brazen coyote]

Yeah I have that in as well, is there a way to know that that is working?

I mean it must, I overwrote files

Just curious if it has its own settings

[flat bear]

not that i know of i was able to tell because i had renodx before it came out then saw the difference after

[flat bear]

nah it doesnt

just changes some values in the files if im not wrong

[brazen coyote]

Alright. One more question then: Is there a way to speed up the auto exposure timing?

None of these settings have a name that seems to indicate such a setting

[flat bear]

nah

havent seen a setting for it

[brazen coyote]

Mmm any place to request such a feature, or would that be right here?

[flat bear]

here probably

[brazen coyote]

Then I'll stick around :)

[flat bear]

renodx guys talk in here pretty often

they ask for feedback

[brazen coyote]

I wish I knew about renodx in general sooner, I have an extreme hatred for auto-exposure

The only way I could play cyberpunk was with a mod that sped up the auto-exposure to near-instant

[flat bear]

u could just turn it off if its that bad but it makes the game a lot better imo

[brazen coyote]

How would I turn it off?

[brazen coyote]

I assumed that would fall-back to the game's vanilla auto-exposure

[flat bear]

yea

[brazen coyote]

Yeah it does, I'm sayin I want it dead lol

[flat bear]

ah

[halcyon ibex]

I'm fed up with TAA. Anyone who knows about modding, will accept a request$?

[flat bear]

honestly not sure

[brazen coyote]

I will say I'm extremely happy with the results of reno's auto exposure

This makes the game so much nicer

[flat bear]

honestly

i put the game down until i found this

[brazen coyote]

I was trying to play and do other things waiting for the game to patch with a fix

https://davekap.x02.me/i/4ZUPB.jpg

I still wonder about these corner shadows

A part of the game's built-in RT I assume

(The one the engine uses even when you turn RT off, which seems more to be a GPU-RT vs Software-RT toggle)

[flat bear]

the RT in this game is terrible

[brazen coyote]

yes

[flat bear]

RR makes it so much cleaner

tho u lose half ur frames

[brazen coyote]

more than half on my 3080

[flat bear]

oof

[brazen coyote]

Putting DLSS at Balanced fixes it but then you have upscaling problems which, barf

[flat bear]

im getting abt 100 with DLSS Q FG RR all cinematic

[halcyon ibex]

I was playing with RR until I fought the bosses, and you need to turn off the particles or set them to 10% because suddenly you suffer a massive FPS drop

[flat bear]

havent experienced that yet

[halcyon ibex]

I don't know if it's a bug or a driver issue, but something similar to this happens when I fight bosses with the particle effects above 50%.

[rocky umbra]

God, my eyes

[brazen coyote]

oh weird seems like something in the scene is thrashing

[halcyon ibex]

I'm experiencing something similar when facing the first boss. During the cutscene, the frame rate drops by 70% and stays that way. If I pause the game and wait a minute, it returns to normal. I don't know if this is happening to me alone or if anyone else has experienced it.

[brazen coyote]

Can't say I know, shame.

[quasi flicker]

So notice that gpu utilization goes down when that happens, almost like you cpu bottlenecked

[brazen coyote]

I have to assume you're on an SSD and have more than 16GB of RAM? ;) AND have the latest gpu drivers?

[quasi flicker]

In that scene ^

[halcyon ibex]

After many tests, I was only able to eliminate that frame drop by lowering the particle settings to 10-20%.

[quasi flicker]

Smarter people can say if particles are GPU instanced or not

But if you get that it might be not and you getting a cpu hit

[worldly swan]

Can you share your reshade color tone setting?

[plush flint]

So, about brightness :
I have a OLED C4, want to increase brightness a bit, I’m at 800peak and 203 paper white for now. Should I increase exposure, or game brightness ?

[ruby tusk]

game brightness

[halcyon ibex]

It only happens in that specific area of ​​the video where the GPU usage drops, but during boss cutscenes or when there are a lot of particles, the GPU remains at 100%, yet the frame rate still drops significantly. Waiting in the pause menu fixes it, even though the particles are floating in the air. It's strange.

[subtle sinew]

why does that look like a whacky AI pic lol

[quasi flicker]

Could be how much vram you got on 5070 ?

[hardy owl]

Its not AI, the game has these outfits

[halcyon ibex]

What PC do you have?

[quasi flicker]

Yea nothing of sorts on my end

[subtle sinew]

I know it just looks like something an AI would generate

[hardy owl]

Lol true

[flat bear]

honestly never experienced it in about 30 hrs of playing

[quasi flicker]

Try updating to 595.97
595.79 has a bug that fucks with gpu clock

[halcyon ibex]

It has 12GB, I thought that would be the problem, but seeing the VRAM consumption during those frame drops, it's still consuming 7-9 of the total VRAM.

[stray grove]

@quasi flicker that was 595.71 that had an issue

[quasi flicker]

Makes sense

[quasi flicker]

Iirc watched a video where they didn’t fully fix that on 79 too

Yea quick google search says 79 had issues with performance drops and stuttering

Give it a shot

[brazen coyote]

Yeah you really shouldn't be having the problem you're having. If something else on your PC isn't yanking some resources, all I've got left is "reinstall drivers, reinstall game, cross fingers"

[halcyon ibex]

Could you please go to this part of the map and check if the same thing is happening to you?

If you position the camera pointing towards the opposite side of the image on the wall, exactly in that position, the computer will simply enter sleep mode xd

[stray grove]

@quasi flicker if you google search any nvidia driver they all have performance issue 😅

[brazen coyote]

I'll give it a shot falco

[quasi flicker]

Fair it just sounded kind of specific

To his issue

[quasi flicker]

I’m invested now

Just turned off my pc and getting ready to sleep, but need a closure before I shut my eyes

[halcyon ibex]

For that same reason, I have a save file of the first 6 bosses to test

[quasi flicker]

Jeez man sucks

[brazen coyote]

oh my god

it is the game

I have the exact same issue

[halcyon ibex]

[quasi flicker]

Lmao

[brazen coyote]

Mind you I didn't have issues at the boss

or any bosses so far

but that exact spot is in fact cursed

[quasi flicker]

I’m gonna save it and try tomorrow

[halcyon ibex]

I'll try to replicate the problem with the bosses

[flat bear]

now i have to go see

[halcyon ibex]

[brazen coyote]

I think there's just this specific frustum of view that is fucked

like maybe it fails to properly cull

[quasi flicker]

Wait

[brazen coyote]

or LoD

[quasi flicker]

What driver you got 😂

[brazen coyote]

oh shit there's a new driver

[quasi flicker]

Which one you running rn ?

[halcyon ibex]

Being overly anxious, I don't know why I always discover this in games, so I spend hours trying to fix that frame drop when the whole game is running fine T_T

[brazen coyote]

I could have SWORN I had the latest but it's saying I still have march 10ths wtf

I remember getting the crimson desert drivers

Oh, the march 10th drivers were the CD drivers, but there's new ones as of the 24th I don't have

Almost afraid to get them, I'm happy where I'm at LOL

[flat bear]

not getting that bug on my end

[quasi flicker]

I have that too, I’m literally not playing until they fix DLAA + HDR

[flat bear]

i have the latest drivers

[quasi flicker]

My bet is on a driver

[brazen coyote]

yeah if I'm getting it on Falco's driver version but y'all are up to date and don't, that's gotta be it

[quasi flicker]

lol Dave you also running 595.79

[brazen coyote]

now I'M too invested

[quasi flicker]

Gg @halcyon ibex try the new driver

[brazen coyote]

and am gonna update to find out

[halcyon ibex]

I really loved the game so I don't plan to stop playing it, but from day one I dreamed of having all the post-processing effects disabled (vignette, chromatic aberration, TAA)

[halcyon ibex]

When I heard DF say the game ran at a native 60fps, I expected to see a super sharp 4k image, but what a surprise to find the fabulous TAA ruining my life

[halcyon ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fresh-prince-of-bel-air-will-smith-shocked-surprised-yikes-gif-5227254

https://giphy.com/gifs/listen-noise-hear-02V9Ot9j2uLGHanaQD

[quasi flicker]

So far only DLAA with chromatic aberration at 0 fixed it for me

The native TAA I mean

Horrid

[native blade]

dlaa causing weird foliage for me

[brazen coyote]

All TAA is horrid but yeah this game's is especially awful

[halcyon ibex]

Using DLAA with preset L makes the game run almost like natively, but preset L consumes about 30% more resources than preset K.

[swift geyser]

what fps you getting

[halcyon ibex]

To get the clearest image, in my opinion, using native FSR 3

[quasi flicker]

So at 4K DLAA, no RR, all cinematic 85ish

And then I 2x fg

[native blade]

some people doesnt realize how blurry taa is

[quasi flicker]

So with fg I run at about 140-150

[swift geyser]

oof no rr?

[quasi flicker]

I don’t like old preset E

Too blurry for me

[brazen coyote]

@native blade I know it, feels like this game's reviews failed to grasp what was actually bad about it

[swift geyser]

you can use optiscaler it gets me close to dlaa without the heavy fps hit

[halcyon ibex]

You need to see this game without the vignette; it's simply beautiful. Some cutscenes right before they end show the full screen without letterboxing, and without the vignette enabled, the image looks so clean.

[quasi flicker]

I tried but can’t get my eyes used to it

And I find DLAA preset M being the most comfortable to play with

[swift geyser]

im trying to figure out the best image for me with rr

[quasi flicker]

Yea it’s all gonna be personal preference

[swift geyser]

i just cant find the sweetspot

[quasi flicker]

Both have that pro and con

[brazen coyote]

Crazy how much natural beauty is hidden underneath all this post-processing bullshit

[swift geyser]

feels like its a scam nowadays to buythe best gpu. you still end up with shitty visuals if you want some fps

[sick monolith]

https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1rq06sx/game_ready_studio_driver_59579_faqdiscussion/oa9d7wr/

use the one suggested for your gpu

[subtle sinew]

Can't replicate this on my end

[karmic quest]

Having no issue with this driver

Runs damn well

[brazen coyote]

driver updated (required a restart, ew) so diving back in now

[sick monolith]

everyone has a different system configuration/parts. the drivers suggested in the post have been vetted by most to be stable

[halcyon ibex]

So which driver should I install? This one?

[quasi flicker]

595.97

[halcyon ibex]

ok

[quasi flicker]

Yea, no issues on my end yet

[sick monolith]

TLDR

[brazen coyote]

(also I wanna find the vignette setting, where is that?)

[quasi flicker]

Likely a reshade stuff

[halcyon ibex]

It does not yet exist.

[plush parcel]

I'm on 595.79 and it's been "great"

[brazen coyote]

The driver did not fix that one spot

[halcyon ibex]

[brazen coyote]

595.97

[karmic quest]

When I update and the driver is stable I dont update for like 1 - 2 months

[brazen coyote]

Interestingly, I have to be third person to get the slowdown. In first person I cannot replicate it

Now I wanna try it with someone who isn't Kliff!

Too bad Damiane is on an important mission

[halcyon ibex]

Those who say this doesn't happen to them, what kind of PC do they have?

[karmic quest]

Wdym?

[quasi flicker]

If it’s not a driver and component bottleneck, it’s unlikely to happen to me then

[sick monolith]

might help to share your specs

[karmic quest]

There is a huge variance and instability of X driver can be caused by alot of things

[brazen coyote]

Could be Ryzen, I've got a Ryzen 9900X3D

[sick monolith]

ah the 50 series

[halcyon ibex]

Another solution would be to use a fairly old driver and test it.

[sick monolith]

577.00 is the last known good driver

[halcyon ibex]

[sick monolith]

then u update dlss usinng AnWave

[halcyon ibex]

you use windows 10 - 11??

[brazen coyote]

10

[sick monolith]

here just click on download from server

[halcyon ibex]

same

[karmic quest]

9800X3D here with 5070 Ti, 595.79 driver, no performance drops, nothin.

[halcyon ibex]

u use windows 10-11?

[karmic quest]

Windows 11

[halcyon ibex]

mmm

[karmic quest]

Windows 10 is obselete tho

There is no point in running it anymore

[sick monolith]

win10 LTSC isnt

[halcyon ibex]

@quasi flicker bro u use windows 10 - 11?

[quasi flicker]

He doesn’t have to deal with x3d scheduling so doesn’t matter

I’m on 11

[halcyon ibex]

mmm

[flat delta]

I am stuck in a mission because all of my allies disappeared. Are there any cheats you know of which make me unbeatable ?

[halcyon ibex]

bro u use windows 10 - 11?

[karmic quest]

Sad that there is no ram with 34.5gb on each stick

@halcyon ibex also, the performance spikes can be caused by other things too.

Its not just the drivers that could be doing this.

[halcyon ibex]

It would make some sense for Windows 11 to have better performance due to some improvements in Direct Storage; I think something similar happened with Monster Hunter Wilds, and Crimson Desert might use that too.

There was something about Windows 11 that you couldn't use in Windows 10

Let me investigate

[karmic quest]

I mean why even use Windows 10

[quasi flicker]

I doubt that direct storage would help in cpu limited scenario

No way you loading particles and it’s slow because no direct storage

Sound like some kind of a scheduling issue though with your x3d and windows 10

Maybe idk spitballing here

[karmic quest]

Check if there is a bios update for your motherboard too

[halcyon ibex]

I already updated all of that

[karmic quest]

I'd just go to Windows 11

I really so no reason to stay on 10

[brazen coyote]

ok so he's not joking

[quasi flicker]

You see fps drops ?

[brazen coyote]

I'm not referring to that lol

[karmic quest]

There are plenty of sources on the internet that prove Windows 11 is not what it used to be lol

[quasi flicker]

Ah

[brazen coyote]

I've never seen anyone adamantly insist that Windows 11 is better than 10

it's just kinda blowing my mind lol

[karmic quest]

Which scenario does make windows 10 still superior over Windows 11 tho

[halcyon ibex]

Hmm, I'll have to try more things because if it's too much trouble, I'll just download everything again and reinstall to get it working the same way.

[brazen coyote]

Every single time Windows 11 breaks a basic functionality because it's been vibe coded

[karmic quest]

If you know how to Optimize even professional Overclockers are on windows 11 now

[halcyon ibex]

I'll reply with another problem with the bosses and send a video

[karmic quest]

Thats why you dont update every time you get a new update. 😭

Like

[brazen coyote]

It's about using the OS as a multi-tasking platform, not a fancy Xbox

[karmic quest]

Disable xbox features then

Very simple to do

[brazen coyote]

That's... you missed the point of what I'm saying

I don't use the PC as just a video game playing machine

I edit videos, I program, I do a lotta junk

[halcyon ibex]

Sorry if this is a bother, but I just want to clear up my doubts. Could you take a video showing that the FPS doesn't drop in that area?

[brazen coyote]

and half of that shit is broken on 11 even if it is working for overclockers

[quasi flicker]

Look up Christ Titus has a very nice de bloat tool for windows 11

[karmic quest]

This

Goated

Takes 10 seconds to set up

[quasi flicker]

I think people don’t like when software is imposed to them

Windows 11 has that tendency

To just shove it up your butt

But you can fix it

[subtle sinew]

but who wouldn't want to use bing and onedrive?

[quasi flicker]

Just put a barrier between windows and your butt

[karmic quest]

Onedrive once bricked by pc lmao.

[brazen coyote]

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised the debloaters are getting better but that still won't solve the random bugs like randomly deleted network files and task manager being unable to close. Win11 needs more time in the oven

[karmic quest]

I was speechless

[quasi flicker]

I haven’t seen such issues yet

[karmic quest]

Now first thing I do is completely disable OneDrive when setting up

[brazen coyote]

That's good!~

I'm just avoiding them altogether

[karmic quest]

Havent had those issues as I use task manager daily

[brazen coyote]

I'm not saying you're getting the variety of bugs constantly reported

[quasi flicker]

Windows 10 comes with its own troubleshooting

[brazen coyote]

I'm saying I don't wanna even bother

[karmic quest]

Tho I have disabled every thing that may have been buggy

[quasi flicker]

It’s all preference

[brazen coyote]

Yeah and I've got 10 exactly where I like it

[subtle sinew]

it's so annoying that clipchamp used to be pretty good and now they're so petty that the moment you start a new project it immediately begins uploading the files to onedrive without asking you and there's no permanent off button it always turns on with every new project

[quasi flicker]

It’s like people playing on proton layers in Linux

[karmic quest]

Yeah. And its so heavy on rendering compared to premier pro

[quasi flicker]

They like it too 😂

[subtle sinew]

it was quick and easy for what it did at least

[karmic quest]

Like I couldnt even live preview in clipcham and toom ages to upload files vs premier pro just did it insta

[subtle sinew]

oh that didn't happen to me

[brazen coyote]

I mean I'm also using windows 7 taskbar tweaker with windows 10 and I have no idea if all the niceties I have with that are available in 11

I fine tune my OS to an extreme

If I don't need to do it all over again, I won't

[karmic quest]

There are optimization / customization tools for Windows 11

Tho they cost money last time I checked

[brazen coyote]

PFFT

[karmic quest]

Some turn it into macbook-esk looking OS

[subtle sinew]

I use windhawk it's really nice

[quasi flicker]

Yea I’m pretty sure someone does that to windows 11 it’ll be good too

But don’t do it since you don’t want it

😂

[karmic quest]

Windows 11 after ages is adding the feature back that was in windows 10 from the start where you can change the taskbar locations lol

The entirery of Windows 11 only way you could do it is by buying that customization tool or whatever

[inland sparrow]

guys where can i find the renodx mod for crimson desert? im fried and i cant seem to find it

[karmic quest]

https://tenor.com/view/satox-check-pins-gif-15132658171494998908

[quasi flicker]

Pinned ^

[brazen coyote]

if you don't see the pins, look for the 3 dots in the top right

it's in that menu

[inland sparrow]

omg ty it was the tree dots

[brazen coyote]

SEE GUYS

[karmic quest]

Alright, time to rob bunch of nobles out of their gold bars

[brazen coyote]

Should say "check pins it's behind the 3 dots"

lmao

[quasi flicker]

I don’t know what time where you at but it’s late for me

I’d probably do the same mistake

[karmic quest]

Why do some have the three dots tho?

[quasi flicker]

But yea you see threads always check pins

[karmic quest]

I see only a pin

[brazen coyote]

probably windows 10 :)

[quasi flicker]

If you double click the thread

As main, it’ll show as three dots

[brazen coyote]

https://davekap.x02.me/i/DRVG99.png

Notice how there's no pin icon here, it's hiding behind the 3 dots in the top right

[quasi flicker]

Yea you have not main thread

[karmic quest]

Oh wtf is that layout

[quasi flicker]

He has it opened like a main chat

[subtle sinew]

don't know if you still need it but I took a clip of it

[quasi flicker]

Or the other way around

[brazen coyote]

forums in discord just have goofy ass implmenetation

[subtle sinew]

can't wait till we all go back raidcall

[quasi flicker]

Discord thread should be renamed to -
CHECK THE THREE DOTS

[subtle sinew]

wtf birds swoop into the water and grab fish?

[quasi flicker]

Yea and eat them too

[brazen coyote]

yeah the wildlife has some interesting stuff going on, saw someone post that 2 bucks can get in an antler lock fight

[subtle sinew]

that's cool

[rugged sequoia]

Thx for all the work, you make the game more enjoyable. But would it be possible to allow us to move the slider to values up to 250? Somewhere between 150 and 250 seems to be my sweetspot for looks vs playability. The workaround with ctrl click is nice but it doesn't save it when you change presets or restart the game.

[steady orbit]

Anyone using recommended setings for renodx in this game without max settings and Ray Recinstrucion?

Is good too or custum better?

Costum

[stray grove]

i missed the nvidia driver talk guys which one should i be using on a 5070ti?

[neon whale]

planning on starting the game. is there any mod on nexus that's worth picking up?

[halcyon ibex]

And this is the other problem that only happens with bosses: suddenly the FPS drops and then, after waiting, it returns to normal.

I notice it much more with RR enabled because I'm already getting 30 fps, but when playing on low graphics settings it drops to around 36-40 from almost 120 fps and the GPU is still at 100%.

[steady orbit]

Anyone got LG C3 here and play Crimson Desert? How you got color pictures warm 45 or lower?

[subtle sinew]

imo modern controller remap, no hud for the parallax fix and proper 3rd person camera

[plush parcel]

I play with RR and MFGx3

tried no RR and Lighting Ultra to gain FPS but it looks bad... I tried though

[steady orbit]

I got 7900 xtx i dont have RR

[steady orbit]

But i stillbusing recomended settings for renodx. You think is still good?

[subtle sinew]

crazy how much better the parallax fix looks
Off/On

[steady orbit]

Still using

[steady orbit]

Which settings is this?

[subtle sinew]

It's a shader toggle from this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/1?tab=description

[plush flint]

that's the shader who flat the textures ?

[subtle sinew]

It reduces parallax yeah

[plush flint]

it's very inconsistent no ?

how aree buildings with it ?

[subtle sinew]

It looks pretty good to me

[plush parcel]

Sorry I'm not sure what you mean, the default RenoDX settings ? Or Ingame settings ?

[subtle sinew]

brick walls are a little flat in comparison yeah

But the issue is also anything with parallax has a real bad blurry edge

[steady stirrup]

Picture on right looks better to me is that meant to be default ?

[plush flint]

ok will try this, ty man !

[subtle sinew]

right is with the parallax lowered by the mod

[steady orbit]

Defoult renodx

[steady stirrup]

That's crazy because there's so much more detail in the stones in right

[subtle sinew]

yep it even matches RR much better

if you look at the boulder it also removes the soft border around it

[plush parcel]

It's fine but it's meant to be tweaked to your liking 🙂

[steady orbit]

So with this mod game looks better?

[steady stirrup]

I thought mod would be left picture lol

[subtle sinew]

it's subjective but yeah

[subtle sinew]

lol sorry its weird cuz the mod on means it's lowering parallax or turning it off so it contradicts itself

[subtle sinew]

at least so far it does

[steady orbit]

Guys what settings are you using with renodx for this game? Defoult, recomended or vanila?
Im using 7900 xtx gpu. Thank you

[steady orbit]

Is work with renodx?

[subtle sinew]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

Recommended, set your monitor's nits

[neon whale]

is this the camera mod?

[steady orbit]

What settings you use in this mod?

[steady stirrup]

I just can't process how turning parralax off does that. Not complaining haha

[karmic quest]

ye

[rugged sequoia]

Could you still release your tweaks so we can have a look at them? I'm so curious about it and would love to test them myself even with the problems.

[neon whale]

what of the 10 different settings do you guys recommend? monkaS

[subtle sinew]

ik it looked crazy to me too lol I think something is definitely wrong where light doesn't react the same

[plush parcel]

Oh I see, I had never seen the recommended button. Yea use that, I use recommended basically, I just turned on RCAS sharpening to 90 lol

[subtle sinew]

There are others but this is the one I use
it's closer to vanilla while being more comfortable
https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/112?tab=description

[subtle sinew]

I only use the parallax toggle from the mod

looks like this

@neon whale

[halcyon ibex]

I was waiting for a mod that disables TAA and five more ReShade presets come out🗿

[jolly isle]

Yes but the downside

to Parallax

[subtle sinew]

you do not want to play this game without TAA lol

it must look like straight fireworks with all the noise

[steady stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/well-waiting-caddyshack-gif-5385414

[jolly isle]

#1469072401450012774 message

I had to scroll for the examples

the downside is buildings and man made structures look bad

[steady stirrup]

[halcyon ibex]

Actually, I do want to XD

[subtle sinew]

oof maybe turning it on/off is better

[karmic quest]

anyone knows what this does in the no hud mod?

[halcyon ibex]

yep

[jolly isle]

yeah its a shame because it makes terrain and rocks/cliffs/etc look so much better

but walls, bridges, buildings, etc look worse

[subtle sinew]

it's the afterimage effect when you use heavy attacks iirc

[jolly isle]

especially the stone/cobble

[karmic quest]

ah so it disables it or smth but you still end up using it or smth?

crawzy

[subtle sinew]

disables it (the visuals)

[neon whale]

nice thank you. for the parallax thing, If I have reshade already installed I don't need to copy the dxgi.dll file right?

[strange crow]

There are sometimes glitches with the lighting when parallax isn't enabled, so I've stopped using it

[subtle sinew]

I'm not sure but I used it anyways

[stray grove]

that parallax fix kinda mixbag immo it totally flatten the wall of building and such

[subtle sinew]

oof yeah guess I'll have to test it more on my end

[jolly isle]

it would be so nice if it was only active on terrain but I doubt thats possible

[subtle sinew]

yeah

[stray grove]

and it does glitch with it too sometime

[subtle sinew]

It's hard to say what I'd prefer because with it enabled, everything has a blurred outline

[steady stirrup]

Yea I can't unsee that blur now

[steady orbit]

Anyone play on LG C3 or higher tv? Us warm 45 color still best or no?

[stray grove]

which nvidia driver yall using right now?

[steady orbit]

Im using amd 7900 xtx gpu and renodx recomended settings, is good or custom renodx better?

[subtle sinew]

Gonna have to try to do your own research and test things out for yourself

[subtle sinew]

595.79 but it's a mess too
nvidia broke displayport to hdmi cables

I think since 2-3 drivers ago

[stray grove]

@subtle sinew i wonder if i should revert to 591.86 that one was pretty solid

[subtle sinew]

I probably wouldn't roll back to anything pre cd release driver

game's already busted enough as it is lol

[plush parcel]

use recommended. But there are sliders for a reason, just try the sliders and make it look good to YOU

[stray grove]

true i reverted to .79 cause .97 made fg super laggy for me

[subtle sinew]

try the cnn fg if you only use 2x

I've been liking it more than mfg

[thin kelp]

when we get better LOD and higher res textures i will be happy

(indoor lighting improve would be nice too)

[subtle sinew]

wym you don't like your google earth lods?

[sick monolith]

seems like DoF issue?

[karmic quest]

1 is with DLSS 4.0 other one is DLSS 4.0 enabled after switching to DLAA and Back. Am I tweaking or image actually becomes alot less blurry, RR is on and FG x2 at 1440P

[subtle sinew]

that's with the same settings and parallax toggled on/off

[subtle sinew]

Probably want to test somewhere with less motion

[karmic quest]

I mean that happens and is most noticable on foliage

[subtle sinew]

It does seem sharper in the screenshot but hard to say with the camera zoom being different

[karmic quest]

I'll try to send pic again once I notice it

Anyone know a fix to this too?

I tried to disable everything on RenoDX

Still the same

Seems like its crazy overexposed

[steady orbit]

Guys you using bloom effect in renodx? For me look better with value 0?

[stray grove]

@steady orbit yea fuck bloom

ahah

[steady orbit]

Right

What about lens flare? I turn this to 0 too

[subtle sinew]

It's personal preference
I like bloom and lens flares and motion blur
but this was the first game I had to turn off motion blur lol

[neon whale]

motion blur O.O

[subtle sinew]

hopefully we get a per object motion blur only option

[stray grove]

@subtle sinew yea i dont fully hate bloom i have mine at 25

[steady orbit]

What about film grain? I got 0 too

Bloom, lens flare and film grain i got all too 0. Sharpening too 90 and game looks crispy

For me of course

[stray grove]

@steady orbit film grain 0 sharpening immo for me above 80 is too much

[subtle sinew]

only good reason to add film grain is if you're getting color banding

more parallax artifacts

[stray grove]

@subtle sinew i wish we could only use it on ground and all those rock walls

[subtle sinew]

honestly starting to like it disabled everywhere

it's only noticeable if you get up close to it

but the blur and artifacts are noticeable from far away

building edges do look worse tho sadly

[blazing ledge]

where download link?

CHECK PINS

[subtle sinew]

more busted parallax (on)

[plush parcel]

RR is so cooked sometimes

[subtle sinew]

off

[pliant dagger]

i play on cinematic without RR and have no "Laserbeams" 🙁

[subtle sinew]

maybe from a low resolution/upscale?

[hidden ivy]

even without the exposure change the bigger moon is nice 😄

[analog prism]

If you log into github you can find a debug build on the official optiscaler github that's 0.9

[steady orbit]

Guys anyone notice ghosting on crimson desert?

Im using 7900 xtx amd

How fix this?

I got last driver

[subtle sinew]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven

ghosting is everywhere

[hardy owl]

I hate this. I wish it could be fixed, the shadow LOD is pathetic in this game

[pliant dagger]

i play with dlaa on 1440p

[subtle sinew]

weird should be more than enough

[pliant dagger]

i will try it with native 🙂

[subtle sinew]

I'd try redoing shaders just in case

[signal shore]

Can anyone help me? I can't get Ren
odx to install, even though I followed the steps in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJko2nAL2Q&t=82s
It still isn't showing up. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do?

[pliant dagger]

how can i do that? 😄

[hollow trellis]

@subtle sinew how do you toggle more parralax in the hud mod

[subtle sinew]

%localappdata% go to the nvidia folder go to dxcache (I think?) and delete the files inside

[subtle sinew]

Go to the addons section of reshade and in the list of toggle groups you can edit and set a keybind for it

I changed mines to home

[signal shore]

thxs

[pure sundial]

I love what they did with the abyss, seems like they took some inspiration from the labyrinth from remnant from the ashes

[glad vessel]

Has anyone managed to run the new auto exposure without RR? My card doesn't support RR

[sick monolith]

it does work without rr

[sharp rapids]

hi

[brazen coyote]

Yeah I'm using it fine without RR or HDR

it's great

[steady orbit]

Generic depth and effect runtime must be off, right?

In renodx

[plush flint]

56h in, still in Hernand 😂 Guys tell me i'm not the only one

[subtle sinew]

approaching 40hrs and still in hernand too lmao

so many things to do still

[brazen coyote]

37 hours and my main quest finally told me to go to demesis but I'm not convinced I'm staying there long

[steady orbit]

Generic depth and effect runtime must be off, right?

In renodx

[subtle sinew]

it can be off or on doesn't really matter unless you want to use reshade effects that need the depth buffer

[steady orbit]

Ok i leave it off

[weary tangle]

It can degrade performance in some games, so yeah, leave it off

[late marlin]

Yes man, there is finally a mod to hide hats and also one to hide every kind of weapon and stuff you are wearing outside of Combat except clothes/Armor. You can enable and disable everything seperately. Love it

[subtle sinew]

what do you have to do to unlock this?

[steady orbit]

Anyone notice this. How i fix this textures?

[pure sundial]

That's the cool part, you can't

[late marlin]

The hat hide mod you have to Install it python (comes with the Mod) then you can enable it. The hide weapons Mod the exe can't be downloaded because it got flagged somehow. No Idea. But in the comments someone posted a Dropbox Link and it's working. Pretty easy. The weapon mod is a small Tool where you can enable and disable every kind of thing seperately. Nexusmods

[subtle sinew]

actually you can

the parallax toggle fixes this

but the edges will be less defined

[steady orbit]

Really?

[subtle sinew]

ah damn I thought I read you could hide helmets at the barber in your camp

[pure sundial]

Ah cool I didn't know that

makes it look flat tho

[steady orbit]

Where find this fixed and how looks after this fix?

[jolly isle]

Fix on

[late marlin]

No you have to enable and disable it through a File. Then restart the Game every time you Change it

[jolly isle]

fix off

[pure sundial]

It looks good with environments but that is what walls look like

[jolly isle]

basically anything they actually modeled looks good

buildings and walls look flat though

[pure sundial]

Does anyone know what's causing this weird black shimmering

[plush flint]

that Henry f***ing Cavill 😂

[pure sundial]

It moves around when you turn the camera

[pure sundial]

It's kliff haha

[late marlin]

Maybe Ray reconstruction

[jolly isle]

thats the power of TAA baby

[pure sundial]

its not rr its something with reno im pretty sure

[subtle sinew]

@steady orbit

[pure sundial]

only recently been popping up

[subtle sinew]

Check out the puddles on surfaces too

[steady orbit]

So you recomneded to use this fix or no? And where i find this fix?

Paralax fix

[subtle sinew]

I like it but it has its tradeoffs

[pure sundial]

Well it's up to you if you wanna use it, It is going to make walls look flat but it adds depth to the environment

[subtle sinew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/1?tab=description

you can see the details disappear in my video but since they're aliased those details are blurry asf too

[jolly isle]

looks better with fix on

[subtle sinew]

the planks look super sharp

[jolly isle]

dusk such a mood

[steady orbit]

Ok i try this mod. Works with renodx?
And second how i install it?

[subtle sinew]

please read the description lol

[spare quartz]

I wonder how much of these issues are due to this absolute turd of an OS. Seeing more and more frequently that driver issues(supposedly) are being fixed by w11 hotfixes. MS is already infamous for unintended side effects in their crap

[steady orbit]

Ok i read it. Just copy file.
Please give me your settings for this mod which one is off or on? Picture 🙏

[subtle sinew]

you can see on/off in the videos I sent I was toggling the effect

set a keybind for the parallax effect in the addon section of reshade

you'll have to toggle it each time you load the game

[steady orbit]

Sorry but i can't find in this pictures lol.

[subtle sinew]

the vignette effect from crouching has black level raise 😩

[steady orbit]

Where is this paralax efect

[subtle sinew]

In the list of toggle groups

[steady orbit]

Sorry really and thank you for your help

[crude marsh]

man I guess there are still anti TAA people even though thats just how modern games work

[desert fox]

better on right or worse?

[crude marsh]

right is so pink

[subtle sinew]

rose tinted glasses on the right 🤔

[desert fox]

kk, I need to bring some of that off then. Does left look green/yellow?

[steady orbit]

Is work with renodx with no problem, right?

[subtle sinew]

yes

[crude marsh]

left looks like it has CA and vanilla sharpening

[steady orbit]

I notice you got ON effect runtime and generic. I hot this OFF, you recomneded to switch ON?

got

[subtle sinew]

I only have it on because I'm using a depth based reshade effect

[spare quartz]

Bad TAA is kind of rare. Anti TAA people always strike off as very weird to me. These days changing your display will have bigger effect than disabling TAA for motion clarity(including fsr/dlss/xess in TAA category). Only exception is VR

[subtle sinew]

man someone needs to make a mod that makes you harder to detect at night

I'm getting detected in pitch dark

[crude marsh]

Yeah I mean its just not really an option and games look broken without TAA with deferred rendering and all that. They all rely on temporal solutions

[jolly isle]

TAA isnt bad its just seemingly always done poorly

[viscid wedge]

The enemies don’t know its dark

[jolly isle]

even that rage-bait guy shows how TAA can look good

the one dude I cant remember his name

[spare quartz]

yep, its foundational. Its why deferred rendering unreal games don't look great in VR

[jolly isle]

has beef with Digital Foundry

[subtle sinew]

Yeah hopefully PA fixes that

Or at least makes you less detectable with a lamp off
I'm not sure if that's even working

[elfin hollow]

That really doesn't narrow it down anymore

[crude marsh]

DLSS is pretty incredible these days, this game just... eh

[jolly isle]

threat interactive

[desert fox]

what about these? Left looks green tinted to me and right fine. If right looks pink and left fine... only assume my monitor needs calibrating.

[subtle sinew]

Right looks pink left looks warm

[crude marsh]

left is mostly ok, right still pink

[spare quartz]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oz96bfDEz7ztpc2zK-Pbik6YGID8ZZzXJZgyb4Gkg9g/https/media.tenor.com/_NoRzKohPY8AAAPo/threat-interactive-optimization.mp4

[jolly isle]

from the rocks

[glad vessel]

@sick monolith, @brazen coyote I know that the toggle works without RR, but I was wondering if it ruins the picture quality, because it says that it may result in overlay bright/dark scenes without RR. I gave it a try earlier and I thought that it was too dark, maybe because I can't utilize RR?

[scenic comet]

i had the same issue of 1.78x DLDSR not showing in the game, it would only show 2.25x (3840x2160) on a 1440p display.

I went into "C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Pearl Abyss\CD\save > user_engine_option_save.xml; changed line 17 from <OptionInt2Vector Name="_viewportSize" _value="3840 2160"> to 3413 1920
Also added <int2 Value="3413 1920"/> below, on line 34, after 1440p resolution, before 2160p.

saved and loaded up the game. after it started, 4k option was gone, but 1920p replaced it; it appears to work; some gain in FPS, from ~82 to 93 FPS with DLSS Ultra Perf

[desert fox]

Alright good to know, my monitor calibration must be off

[patent bough]

why ray reconstructon disables displacement map?

on vs off

[subtle sinew]

it does work but it's so bad you would want it off anyway

[steady stirrup]

@subtle sinew@jolly islei actually think this parralax stuff is better with mod than off for walls etc too

this is without mod

with mod

[crude marsh]

RR doesnt disable them, just denoises their implementation

which in turn dampens the height

[subtle sinew]

you do lose out on the corners looking like straight lines but yeah the walls look fine with the mod on

[crude marsh]

TLDR they have a bad pom implementation and use old stuff and screenspace stuff

[steady stirrup]

@subtle sinewlook at this roof this is with mod off

mod on

its much better with mod

[subtle sinew]

I feel like I'm having a hard time making it out on this one lol maybe if the screenshots were on one post to go back and forth

[spare quartz]

it's concerning that they haven't even listed the displacement mapping issue with RR in known issues. Digital Foundry even mentioned that in their early glazing video

[steady stirrup]

@subtle sineweach tile has shadowing with mod on

[subtle sinew]

I'm stupid I opened it in the browser and checked it and yeah the shadowing is muuch better

it's the same effect you get on the ground too

[crude marsh]

its also concerning the games lighting only works with RR lol

[subtle sinew]

works is a big word to be using

[hardy owl]

Imagine how this game is looking in series S lol

[crude marsh]

not completely broken

[steady stirrup]

@crude marshim not shocked black desert is a disaster lol

[crude marsh]

exists

[sick monolith]

use the lazorr light mod. it will work fine.

[hardy owl]

And apparently they never fixed it

💀

[sick monolith]

anyone notice a difference here? i'm blind lol

[subtle sinew]

open it in your browser and go from one tab to the other