Crimson Desert - CHECK PINS FOR ADDON

[lucid thorn]

I shared these earlier but these are just screencaps of my existing photos. It's unreal how good the colours and tones and shit feel

[daring orbit]

Alright lets see the new updates 🥳

Man im startin to hate this loading screen

[quartz flame]

Just me? or the sky its way to bright with this addon?

[sick monolith]

check if you have hdr enabled in game

[quartz flame]

ya its on

[sick monolith]

SMEAR

[sick monolith]

it shouldn't be brighter than vanilla then

[stray grove]

@quartz flame tweak the color grading slider

[quartz flame]

sometimes looks ok but other time its completely blown out

but the ground and rest looks great thou

[vivid iris]

using alternate auto exposure?

[quartz flame]

only the sky its mess up

[quartz flame]

im using some custom settings ya but the auto exposure its untouched

[vivid iris]

make sure you're using the default exposure setting in-game

[quartz flame]

ok gonna check again now

[vivid iris]

it absolutely should not be blown out more than vanilla hdr

[sick monolith]

bruh

vanilla and reno

[quartz flame]

this my settings

[vivid iris]

ah you're still on an older build btw

[quartz flame]

there a newer version now?

[vivid iris]

in the pins

[sick monolith]

u increased contrast/highlights ofc it will be blown

[young pebble]

on/off, parallax mod working great, its basically removing uniformity in stones, debulking them

[quartz flame]

ahh nvm lol

i frg the contrast slider from the adrenalin gpu driver on

[vivid iris]

[quartz flame]

this was on +27

now it looks good

[hardy owl]

Thanks for your work mate. You were the only remaining RenoDX member I didn't donate yet

[vivid iris]

greatly appreciated 🙏

[hardy owl]

No problem. I really like how patient the whole team is with us, peasants, asking for fixes lol

[median kindle]

soooo i dont have RenoDX as an option in reshade anymore...

i had it earlier

[jolly isle]

nice and dark

[stray grove]

@median kindle prob got flaged by your antivirus

[jolly isle]

its got more detail in HDR ofc cant really show that with a regular video

[median kindle]

does that just happen sometimes? Or is there a way I can prevent it?

[sick monolith]

link plz

[stray grove]

@sick monolith look up i posted it not far above

[vivid iris]

Just a hotfix

• fix sdr black crush fix when using fsr framegen
• change blowout default
• add lilium credit for RCAS

[sick monolith]

found it

[sick monolith]

50 or 100 rcas?

[stray grove]

@sick monolith it might cause some weird artefact in some area i just toggle it off when it happen

[vivid iris]

not sure what you're asking lol

[sick monolith]

game already filled with weird artifact

[stray grove]

@sick monolith oh those will be worse trust me

[sick monolith]

the default is zero sharpness. if click rcas.. nothing happens. need to set a number right?

[stray grove]

@sick monolith look at the cooking pot https://medal.tv/games/screen-capture/clips/mnDkviOc4bP5e8eqU?invite=cr-MSxVOEssNTQ1MzQzNDc3&v=8

i use 70-80 Rcas i like it kinda sharp

[vivid iris]

yeah

just set whatever amount looks good to you

the sharpening slider uses whatever sharpening method you have selected

[karmic quest]

Oooo

Forge cooked something?

[quartz flame]

dayum i was using the older version

before ,thanks for the tip @vivid iris 👌

[quartz flame]

also i noticed with this latest ver. im getting 5-7 more fps

compared to using the older one

crazy work

[kindred shoal]

the letthere be light fix is supposed to fix the candles? indoor candle light is like almost not there

[jolly isle]

Moooooon

[worldly swan]

I'm confused, so there's actually 2 version of renodx here? What's the difference between that and the rdr2 medieval version posted by the other guy?

[vivid iris]

we're both working on it

use the hotfix

[sudden pulsar]

Am I the only one losing inputs randomly for things like attacking or blocking? I'm sometimes mashing the R1 and it's not doing shit, or just stop after a single hit

[drowsy walrus]

looks insane with this update nice work

[kindred shoal]

hold the buttons

when you attack

[hardy owl]

hold buttons, sometimes you have to do that in the middle of a combo

[kindred shoal]

holding goes through the whole attack string

[worldly swan]

But there are 2 different files with different file sizes now, I'm sure people are going to be so confused now...

[vivid iris]

honestly no clue how the file size is lower now

[drowsy walrus]

you plan on fixing some of the pop in issues correct? has that been implemented ?

[vivid iris]

nah we aren't doing that

[sudden pulsar]

Is it intended, or a workaround to the controls being fucked?

[drowsy walrus]

u did magic w this update icl

[kindred shoal]

the pop in stuff just seems to be a pearl abyss signature at this point lol

[strong gulch]

I'm playing on rtx 5090 and seeing about 30% fps drop with renodx addon. Is this expected?

[vivid iris]

I unpinned the other file

[kindred shoal]

yea the candlesindoor are super dim

obv this is not exactly how it looks on m monitor but you get he idea lol

[vivid iris]

probably a workaround. I vaguely recall that being a thing in BDO too actually

[karmic quest]

No

I got 0 perf drop pretty much

[strong gulch]

probably worth to say my screen resolution is crazy high - 7680x2160. previously I was getting around 120-150 frames on DLSS 4.0 Balanced + RR, with renodx getting 70-90 frames

[vivid iris]

make sure you disable generic depth and runtime sync addons

[strong gulch]

I already did and haven't noticed any performance difference

[vivid iris]

alright, maybe it is a gpu bound thing then

do you have this perf hit when using all vanilla settings?

[strong gulch]

yep, tried both vanilla and recommended

it feels like something gets messed up once I install renodx. I also noticed installing it forces the game to recompile the shaders. is this expected?

[vivid iris]

yeah

[hardy owl]

wow I am testing the new addon with the night time fixes and this looks even better now, I can see better but it still feels dark and immersive. Awesome, I love this team man

[vital bay]

sorry to be a distraction, im just a bit confused. How do i install the pinned file using RenoDXCommander? Or.. RHI installer as it's called now

[vivid iris]

pretty sure you can click and drag into that installer

[vital bay]

oooh ok, trying now

[vivid iris]

otherwise just dropping the file into the bin64 folder where the game is installed

[vital bay]

yup, that worked

thank you! appreciate the great work you're doing

[vivid iris]

I pushed the code so once github autobuilds it it should just work in there

[sudden pulsar]

That voice acting though lol

What did DF took to praise it

[covert ruin]

there are some good scenes it’s just very inconsistent

[eager epoch]

One way to fix the popin is to drop foliage density to high.
But those elements that were suppose to popin wont ever appear.

[ebon zinc]

Hey guys dont have much experience with this, so starting fresh for best results should i just add the hotfix and the “lettherebelight” mods?

[stray grove]

omg i noticed the lod pop in but god dam pumkin and flower just growing right in front of your eye from 5ft is next level

@ebon zinc use the new renoaddon and light fix

[pure sundial]

has anyone here killed antumbras sword

stupid ass boss

[kindred shoal]

that boss hits hard as all hell

[jolly isle]

there we go, much better HDR conversion

[pure sundial]

this mf 2 hits me

[quartz flame]

what i noticed with this new reno build u cant use Lossless scalling anymore it add tone of latency worse then native, before was running great latency wise, only with some minor ghosthing effect arround ur characther.

[ebon zinc]

the lightfix is the one sent by lazorr or do we have something else?

[pure sundial]

Why would you use lossless scaling instead of fg?

[stray grove]

@ebon zinc the one in pinned mosst recent

5:03 pm

[young pebble]

default settings?

[jolly isle]

Hmm?

I just used Reshade instead of Win11 to take the screenshot. Win11 was too dark compared to the JXR

[young pebble]

i meant reno settings

[quartz flame]

FSR FG in this game its not working well, ya has almost no noise,or noticeable ghosting but latency wise its bad

smoothness wise

L.S add more noise but smootness wise was running great before

[jolly isle]

oh not default no

recommended preset, with exposure bumped to 1.25 like suggested

also light fix

[pure sundial]

fair enough

[ebon zinc]

okay got it thanks

[jolly isle]

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[sharp moon]

how do i setup mip map bias with opti does anyone know

[quartz flame]

has anyone tried this? runs with no fps cost? ^^

[jolly isle]

I didnt notice any FPS drop with it installed

[pure sundial]

neither

[quartz flame]

nice!

will try it to then

[jolly isle]

granted I havent found tons of lights at night yet either so... take my feedback with a grain of salt

[pure sundial]

iirc I think it may have been mentioned that there could be an fps cost if you are somewhere where there is a lot of lights

[stone comet]

^

Should be fine otherwise

[languid sleet]

Definitely missing something, before is with HDR off, after is the recommended settings on. Super blown out

[karmic quest]

Is this with the current fixes or you adjusted smth

[karmic quest]

You need to adjust your peak monitor brigtness and below adjust the 100% paper white brightness

[stone comet]

You got exposure at 1.2 as well

[karmic quest]

In my case my model monitor due to panel variance ranges from 250 - 289 nit paper white

[stone comet]

Since your peak is 500 your general game brightness should be lower as well

[ruby tusk]

lower your game brightness , if your peak is 500

[languid sleet]

Got it, when I calibrate my HDR in windows it sits around 500 so I thought I should match that in settings here too

[ruby tusk]

Correct

[stone comet]

Yeah the peaks fine

Its just the 1.2 exposure + game brightness

[languid sleet]

Ah cheers thanks

[stone comet]

They recommend to not touch exposure if you want your game brighter, and just adjust the game brightness

[dry adder]

How do I install the renodx mod for hdr?

[tame vault]

Interesting, I've been asking that for a while. The RenoDX team said that?

[dry adder]

And where do I get these download links?

[green wasp]

so how to get correct peak brightness for my displayer?

[quartz flame]

i got some error think? while using the Let LetThereBeMoreLight now, first after i fired up the game said some add'ons could not be installed.

[stone comet]

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Might just be a psychov thing but yeah

[ruby tusk]

Pinned Message

[dry adder]

Thanks mate

[molten kiln]

I have a NVIDIA GPU and I also have the black bars when using FSR Native AA

[rose jewel]

autoexp on\of 🧐

[fresh sparrow]

Is it really supposed to be pitch black at night or when indoors? Cannae see shit

[flat bear]

adjust dark power (outdoor) slider

[novel jay]

Also install the LetThereBeMoreLight mod in the pin. It increases 2x all light sources, ~5x fire light sources

[jolly isle]

just a screenshot

the win11 automatic JXR conversion to PNG was too dark

conversion tools too bright and bad banding (probably user error on my part). Reshade screenshot worked perfectly. Looks the closest like the JXR

[green wasp]

after install morelightpak still can't see things in darkness

[cerulean night]

hmmm i dont seem to have alternate auto exposure setting, i think i have done something wrong. i installed reshade with addons and dropped the crimson desert addon into bin64? what am i missing>

[flat bear]

thats an old version

[stone comet]

Try the light mod, but no it's because the game linked all lighting to autoexposure so we got cucked when they tried to fix it

[flat bear]

download the newest in pins

[cerulean night]

hmmm confusing i downloaded the one posted at 5am

[flat bear]

^

[cerulean night]

this one

[stone comet]

I just installed it before work seemed to have autoexpose

[sick monolith]

what's the new blowout defaut? too lazy to close and reopen the game

[cerulean night]

i replaced file in destination, see if that helps

[stone comet]

Think its still just 0

[karmic quest]

Y'all can also try this and see if it helps

[sick monolith]

oh no i have to update then. the change must have been internal

[flat bear]

yea dont have the old file in the bin folder too

delete it or replace it

[cerulean night]

its the same file

the one you linked is one i originally installed

[quartz flame]

ya the LetThereBeMoreLight really adds a big improvement to the lights at night time,i tested both on vs off, added the backup file again to see with it off

[flat bear]

idk its supposed to be this

[cerulean night]

hmmm still no auto exposure setting. am i being dumb?

[thin kelp]

weird newest version auto exposure blow out brightness for me

[flat bear]

march 23 is old reno

[cerulean night]

ok i think that download link is old one then

anybody got a link for latest?

[flat bear]

nah cuz i downloaded it and mines up to date

[cerulean night]

i have just clicked and downloaded that file twice though

i have no previous versions as this is first install

[cerulean night]

this is only one i have downloaded

compiled mar 23rd

[lost gust]

I think you dont have hdr on in game

[cerulean night]

i do

[flat bear]

idk the latest is 26 and i downloaded from the message

[cerulean night]

well thats confusing

[novel jay]

are you sure you are replacing it correctly?

[cerulean night]

no replacement needed

its first time install

[stone comet]

You must me loading the wrong one somewhere

[flat bear]

yea

[cerulean night]

i feel like im going crazy aha, i have ONLY downloaded that link

[dry adder]

How do I adjust the settings here tho

[flat bear]

click the renodx tab

[sudden pulsar]

That RenoDX tab is not visible enough, I guess

[stone comet]

😭

[cerulean night]

its telling me it the same file

[dry adder]

Clicked it but it just shows the info

[sudden pulsar]

You're not replacing any file lol

You just keep downloading more of them with a slightly different name

[dry adder]

This is the only thing I downloaded and pasted on the bin directory btw. Is it the main mod file or just a patch?

[cerulean night]

bro im not just downloading it

thats just a screenshot

[flat bear]

main mod

[cerulean night]

im just showing that link is same file i previously downloaded

[sand vector]

its not the same file, its just named same

[cerulean night]

i have replaced it every time

[flat bear]

idk what to tell u then 😭

[sudden pulsar]

Just delete it from your game directory and download the one from the pin

[cerulean night]

aha this actually worked! thats very strange. i've never had windows file replacment weird out on me like that

[novel jay]

Did you click advance tab

[cerulean night]

thanks for help folks!

[novel jay]

nvm seems like u got it, nice

[quartz flame]

After trying the "LetThereBeMoreLight" i saw even more how bad the Vanilla hdr is actually in this game, lights pop now so good really looks like HDR highlights now with some proper contrast tuned.

im using DPX custom tuned from reshade also to boost the brightness more

really like how the pic looks now really looking more and more now like a proper hdr pic.

[cerulean night]

do i just drop that mod into bin64 too? dont wanna get myself into a pickle again 😅

[flat bear]

no

[quartz flame]

here u need to drop that file first and replace it

also backup the 0011 file first

[flat bear]

back up the 0011 folder and then replace the old ones with the ones u downloaded

[quartz flame]

sucks i cant capture proper hdr pic in windows

i tried with reshade print screen and look terrible compared to what i see on my screen

[stone comet]

Can try specialK

[quartz flame]

i look for that but i dont find any link to download it :))

on github

[stone comet]

https://www.special-k.info/

And has nightly updates in its discord

Also has its on HDR image viewer

[quartz flame]

i see nice thanks!

i saw something that u need to inject other app after u installl it?

[stone comet]

Uhhh sometimes you gotta tweak with how you use reshade and stuff

I think you can just leave it as dxgi and should be fine

[quartz flame]

doesnt seem very simple to use ^^

i never tried it

[stone comet]

Nahhh you just launch it and go to screenshot tab

Super easy

Nothing else matters for yous

[quartz flame]

where i can add some print screens to use it with this app?

for decoding ^^

[quartz flame]

i dont see any screenshots tab

[stone comet]

It just automatically detects your games

Then when you launch it you can do it from there

Non pirated games mind you

[quartz flame]

i see

[cerulean night]

looks much better

[hardy owl]

If anyones has issues with the nights being too dark you can adjust adaptation contrast to make the night a bit brighter. 40 seems to be sweet spot

[stone comet]

I think light mod + like 47 adaptation contrast looked nice

[pure sundial]

after 60 hours I've finally done it

I have acquired the barbershop

[cerulean night]

this shows how broken the auto exposure is normally

[stone comet]

Ya entire worlds lighting is linked to it

Can hardly call it just auto exposure at that point 💀

[cedar solstice]

what do I have to check here

[analog prism]

night feels like daytime 💀

[cedar solstice]

thanks

[narrow frost]

Btw to get back some performance from running Reshade (its minuscule), open Reshade (Home button) and uncheck these two options.
Then just head over to the RenoDX tab (at the top bar) and tinker away. 👍

[cedar solstice]

o wow why are these on by default, thank you 😃

[narrow frost]

Its only for when using regular effects within Reshade, since you are likely only using it for RenoDX that's also why you skip the effect section etc.

[cedar solstice]

did I install it right

[narrow frost]

Yep looks right.

[narrow frost]

Is this the newest version?

[stone comet]

Looks like it

[cedar solstice]

yes from today

[stone comet]

Has rcas

[narrow frost]

ah right I was confused by the peak and game brightness missing lol.

Missed that SDR works with it now.

[karmic quest]

Through reshade u can

[real idol]

@crude marsh The mod is much better than before. So the lantern on belt is much better and brighter than before but still not to the level of the base game which I feel like is perfect brightness for it. Just need a tad more brightness tweak. And while holding the lantern up, its a bit its been toned down way too much, somewhere between this and the previous value would be much better.
Can we also get some moonlight during the night as well as the game has moonlight so the exploration during night is easier. Right now its way too dark and I can't see much beyond my lantern's reach. Awesome job so far

[quartz flame]

I tried and it looks extremely dull compared to what i seeing on my screen

[sterile sable]

not really? Nights are not that dark when moon is out

[karmic quest]

Does special k even work on crimson desert?

Nothing on their game forum

[narrow frost]

Yeah it does.

[stone comet]

Works with like 90% of games

[karmic quest]

Yeah ik special k has good features in it

But I dont think it has any fixes for hdr n shit

[stone comet]

No but it has other useful stuff

[karmic quest]

Forgot if it has NVPI built in

Last time I used it in ac shadows

[cerulean night]

@sterile sable perhaps it's the lack of HDR in the screenshot but I can assure you it looks much better this end

[real idol]

@crude marsh Forgot to mention. The light emanating from fire sources like candles, braziers could also benefit from a boost.

[narrow frost]

[karmic quest]

I forgor how to use the specialk 😭

Ok figured it out

[rocky umbra]

Can we get a pinned post on recommended settings pls (and thank you) 🙏

[karmic quest]

loving the new fixes W RenoDX team

[stone comet]

Defaults

[sterile sable]

Ok it definitely works, I've set both DLSS and RR to 99% in NVPI-R, I see performance impact from DLSSQ and same behavior of switching DLAA once and then using DLSSQ (less/np boiling of shadows)

PCL latency with framegen is also lower than using DLDSR+dlss performance

at 1440p

[karmic quest]

This new fix on my monitor is perfect

Its not too dark anymore

Can play like this easily

Dark Power 75 is also perfect for me

[swift geyser]

so if i want this fix i just copy the settings you have?

[hollow solar]

what you don't like play dough in your games?

[sterile sable]

I think you should only try RR ones, DLSS 99% seems to not work (because I can switch presets in game and performance/quality also changes with it)

[unique horizon]

First of all, thank you so much for this latest build, giving me access to all the previously hidden settings. I’m guessing on my HDR600 IPS ultrawide panel, the auto exposure is way too dark (pic 1), so I probably go with „recommended“ and turn only that off (pic 2) vanilla kinda looks fine too, the sky is probably too blue or everything too „vivid“ (pic3) 🙈 but I will trust your otherwise recommended settings. Thanks again

[crude marsh]

I am gonna try to modify the weather after work today so we can change the moon and what not

[eager epoch]

THIS IS BIG! If you will do this in Optiscaler ull have DLAA visuals with a very small hit to performance relative to just set DLAA

[true dagger]

did u actually check the internal res or are you going off of feel, because i checked with SK and CD ignores these custom values for RR

[crude marsh]

yeah output scaling can help with boiling, especially at lower res

[sterile sable]

I really hope devs fix RR displacement issues today or tomorrow (assuming they have patch ready) Kinda hate to have better lighting or better terrains

[sterile sable]

I saw less fps and shadows no longer boiling in area I test (bluemon manor first floor at day)

[karmic quest]

My god

Amazing

https://tenor.com/view/redrum-gif-1672302499783667000

[tribal goblet]

Uncheck Use FSR 1 and select Lanczos 3

[eager epoch]

It just eliminates blurriness during motion and kills RR blur, crystal clear clean image for like couple % of performance loss compared to like 40-50 DLAA vanilla cost

[opaque wing]

Do you guys suggest to buy this game now, or wait for more patches?

[vital bay]

yo i got a question. Have any of you seen how bad the image quality gets when you do the RB+A combo?

game goes 240p

then back up to whatever

[eager epoch]

Tried now, its definitely blurrier

[sterile sable]

I think there should be a way to enable paralax with RR

[rough granite]

if you are desperate, its ok now with Reno

if you are in no rush, maybe check in a month or 2 for patches

[gilded plover]

im waiting for deep discount

[gilded plover]

bruh is this shit AI generated tf is this

i thought im tripping at first

[true dagger]

oh ye ur right wtf xD

[gilded plover]

https://tenor.com/view/bite-finger-crazy-gif-12462089

[hardy owl]

So you work on top of doing modding? Holy moly many where do you get the time?

[true dagger]

the DLSS5 leonardo gif

[hardy owl]

And I am very curious, what are you planning to do with the weather exactly?

[sterile sable]

lol dafuq is this

why the hell it removed all blur

at 5 fps cost

it's not perfect but still impressive

[hardy owl]

Is that special K?

[sterile sable]

optiscaler

[eager epoch]

check with use FSR 1, I tried 2.00 which in my case renders the image at 5120X2880 and it runs same as DLSS Q

[hardy owl]

So you get a better DLAA version installing opsticaler?

[sterile sable]

game definitely has some caching I applied settings from your screenshot, than turned them off and boiling stopped after that

[eager epoch]

There is no way back after this, no f**** way I gonna play without optiscaler

[eager epoch]

HELL YEEE

[hardy owl]

Does opsticaler improves DLSS? I have a 4090 and I can't get enough fps woth DLAA at 4k

[eager epoch]

Im on 5090, absolutely no hit to performance

[vital bay]

Look at this fizzle please. Only occurs when i do the RB + A combo. It's insane isn't it?

[hardy owl]

Well shit. Maybe i should get a 5090 then 😂

[vital bay]

its like some particle effects radiating outwards from the skill

[eager epoch]

4090 is a beast

[hardy owl]

I know but not enough for this game with cinematic settings and ray reconstruction

[tranquil plinth]

So if we aren't using RR, what options should we have set up in RenoDX?

[sand vector]

i missed on 5090, prices went up just before i was looknig for new gpu

5080 has to do

[eager epoch]

U should be able to run opti at 2-3 ratio without problem with like negligible performance loss, with 2.00 I dont have any perf loss

[tribal goblet]

Chromatic Aberration and sharpening to 0

[worldly swan]

Nice, I've tried the new version, it's good but still a bit too dark for my taste (both outdoor night and indoors), I think we can all agree that it needs to be turned into a slider...

[opaque wing]

Does the Ray Regeneration / Ray Reconstrucion equal to Path Tracing?

[weary marten]

https://discord.com/invite/6a923Y8ks7

[hardy owl]

Not sure but the performance hit sure seems like running Pathtracing

[crude marsh]

clamp exposure and change the moon

[scenic adder]

It's not, it just enables some stuff without using a number of techniques that significantly improve RT performance

[radiant oriole]

I have weird flickeringe on the bottom of my screen, doesnt appear when im standing still, only when there is a texture moving? What is that? It wasn't as noticable yesterday but it is now

[hardy owl]

And what will this change in practical terms?

[crude marsh]

more consistent/brighter night time and no more places where things are blown out or super dark

and gonna try and fix dawk and dusk

[sterile sable]

in pins it says that blowout default was changed is it internal one or slider should be other than 50?

[hardy owl]

Dusk and evenings look a bit flat. Have you noticed?

[crude marsh]

yeah they look miserable, hence trying to fix them

[hardy owl]

Awesome! Thanks a lot man

[crude marsh]

but first is making moon brighter and clamping exposure

[tranquil plinth]

What about auto exposure and the other graphical settings

[hardy owl]

If you want dark nights for more immersion turn on alternative auto exposure

And the other fixes are fixes made by Forge which improve very much the look of the game when using RR

[crude marsh]

you mean turn on alternative autoexposure

[tranquil plinth]

So the other settings don't do much for non RR then?

[primal estuary]

Do those settings only affect RR? I feel like the game has gotten less sparkly even with RR off, placebo can be strong tho

[vital bay]

@crude marsh don't want to interrupt, just wanted to get your thoughts on this, doesn't seem to be affected by any setting in the game, dlss on/off, fg on/off, rr on/off, only thing that mitigates it somewhat is the motion blur setting.

[hardy owl]

Lazorr can answer this better, but I believe that most fixes are made for RR

[vital bay]

insane amounts of fizzle

happens to a friend of mine as well, so i'm guessing it's a general issue?

[naive jackal]

@viscid wedge That's what i hate about normie gamers, game provides light source the player can activate any time they want or need to, normie gamers refuse to use torch/lantern/flashlight, instead complain until all we get is day time with dark blue sky

[ruby tusk]

gotta run 10k

[hardy owl]

The game has a similar issue when it rains. I am not an expert but I suspect this is related to upscaling and the way they did implement it. Apparently they didn't follow the guidelines when implementing DLSS

[crude marsh]

Not sure, did you disable VRS in reno

[sterile sable]

well "dark power outdoor" also changes lights strenght indoor but still better than old auto exposure

[naive jackal]

When i was a kid i thought it was cool af that games like EQ, Morrowind, Gothic, etc, got dark enough at night you needed to use a torch

[crude marsh]

the devs basically implemented the absolute minimum quality for everything in the game except the characters

[vital bay]

yes, on/off, makes no difference basically

[lime bridge]

yeah it's not perfect but it makes it very playable, imo

[crude marsh]

clouds are rendered at like 1/64th or 1/128th resolution lmao

[sterile sable]

it also fixed lamps being dull now they emit light (or maybe it's light fix by Lazorr)

[hardy owl]

That's crazy. And shadowmaps 1024 right?

[vital bay]

my current settings if it helps, but i've tried having everything just set to off and the issue is still happening

[hardy owl]

It makes no sense

[crude marsh]

bunch of 1024 shadowmaps yeah

[lime bridge]

I'm not using the seperate fix yet and pretty much all of that is improved as far as I can tell

[vital bay]

rain amazingly looks fine on my machine :)) also i've tried disabling upscaling and it's still doing this to some extent. I'm guessing they screwed up the particle effect itself for the weapon skill?

[sterile sable]

can this be fixed? because clouds and smokes get pixelated whever something with transparency overlaps them like grass or leaves

[faint bobcat]

I took a look at their clouds, they use

half res rendering on top of checkerboard sampling on top of half res raymarching
on top of the previously mentioned temporal reprojection on the whole sky shader

so everything is just a sludge

that they then rely on temporally to resolve

[hardy owl]

Are you using DLAA?

When using DLAA it seems like rain looks better for some reason. With DLSS it becomes grainy

[vital bay]

nope, i've tested with balanced, perf and off

4070 ti super cant run dlaa, i'd be getting like 25 fps

[stone comet]

Not being able to see a single thing at night in a game about world exploration is just as unhinged just so you know lmao

[rapid pulsar]

is this normal

[naive jackal]

@stone comet lol it has a day/night cycle and gives you a lantern you can turn on for when it's dark, what the point in a lantern if i never have a need for one

[eager epoch]

Im on 1440p thats the 7680x4320 is the max I can get

[stone comet]

Lol the lantern doesnt do shit when its pitch black

You literally cannot play the game holding it up permanently

[unique horizon]

It would be great if we could somehow split the difference between that auto exposure on vs off

[ruby tusk]

yeah I'm on ultrawide, that's why

[stone comet]

Theyre working on it

[naive jackal]

@stone comet I was born in DOOM 3, moullllded by it

[eager epoch]

How I haven’t thought about this earlier, better than DLAA even without the black bars

[naive jackal]

@stone comet That is kinda weird that they didn't allow lantern in one hand and weapon in another, plenty of games have been doing that for ages, Gothic, Elder Scrolls, Souls, Tainted Grail has it as well

[crude marsh]

its the autoexposure, is probably supposed to be night or close to it

anywho later today going to try and have a weather fix to balance out the intensities and make moon brighter

[odd rose]

😓

[ruby tusk]

you can't park there

[granite sentinel]

I hate clouds in this game. They are the worst I have seen in a modern game. Is there any way to improve their quality without a big performance hit?

[karmic quest]

anyone know what this other slot is for ?

[crude marsh]

Forge is gonna try and replace their clouds

[true dagger]

earring

[karmic quest]

no

[granite sentinel]

That's awesome, thank you!

[karmic quest]

It doesnt allow me to equip earring there

[true dagger]

yes

[stone comet]

Yes

You can have 2

😭

[faint bobcat]

@granite sentinel

[karmic quest]

Omg had to select it from the armor selection section

for some reason it was allow me to select the place where I only had my other earring

[faint bobcat]

Something like Horizon's Nubis clouds would be pog but thats a whole pipeline replacement

not really in scope

Nubis is 3D voxels + precomputed textures

here they use 2.5D raymarching + noise

[granite sentinel]

I can't believe how bad they look. I try to avoid look at them lol

[faint bobcat]

1/64th clouds brooo

very optimised

[green wasp]

is that right? In Game DLSS Q, and 2.25x Output Scaling in Opticscaler

The FPS higher than DLAA 10

[worthy kernel]

BEST OPTIMIZED GAME OF THE YEAR

[opaque wing]

Where do you guys download the latest RenoDX for this game?

[crude marsh]

pins

[opaque wing]

Oh, thanks.

So I need to install ReShade first?

[true dagger]

install instructions are also there in pins if u scroll down

[warm magnet]

How much fps you getting with this

[sterile sable]

I'm browsing through xml file for settings and I kinda start to suspect that absence of paralax with ray reconstruction is solely because there is no dedicated preset for max settings 😄

[green wasp]

80

[warm magnet]

Max settings?

[steady stirrup]

Yea I thought because RR uses an entirely different preset they forgot to add flags for things like that

[vital bay]

i managed to identify the cause of the problem! It's this skill's visual effect:

it's supposed to echo a radius and pop up an illusion to do a copy of the skill

[green wasp]

no RR

[vital bay]

but the echoing effect is busted

[sterile sable]

seems like so

[warm magnet]

How would it run with RR on because I want to try this

[worldly swan]

Is the over bright outdoor night issue only affected those of us who play with HDR? I saw SDR YouTube streamers who get dark outdoor nights in their game.

[green wasp]

for my 3080ti, I will set DLSS Balance for M Model, turn on XeFG and 2x output scaling in OpticScaling to get 60FPS

[hollow solar]

excuse what the fuck

[plush parcel]

HELP
I have to hold my inputs for 50-100ms (or so) before they register. MnK.
I thought it was because of framegen at first but no.
It's a real pita

[plush flint]

where did you find the v0.9.0 version ?

[warm magnet]

Okay thanks and you are upscaling it to 8k too right

[hollow solar]

no it normal its for the combat to feel "heavy" and make every action need "careful consideration"

[green wasp]

opt discord

[plush flint]

damn, invitations are lock for their discord

[green wasp]

https://discord.com/invite/wEyd9w4hG5

[plush parcel]

makes 0 sense because it's not just the combat

[dapper lake]

God I hate that dude and his "theyre coming for me" schtick

[hollow solar]

well ask the korean game designer not me 🤷

[plush parcel]

they said that ?

[hollow solar]

well I don't know if I can find the article where I saw it but, what I'm sure is that it's intentionnal

[plush parcel]

I suppose they wanted to make dusting with the broom feel "heavy" too ?
It's just unresponsive and sluggish

[faint bobcat]

[dapper lake]

Oh my god i haven't seen that one lmao

[rocky umbra]

Hmm, im running 3440x 1440 with fsr quality and this noise is pretty terrible. Basically any drak scene is a smudge fest. At day time, its glorious.

[hollow solar]

well seeing the render pipeline I would not be surprise if the rest is efed too

[vital bay]

Hey Forge, might i inconvenience you with a question? I've found a bug using the Nature's Echo skill, i posted a video earlier and just now managed to identify the cause and since i have no modding experience i thought i'd ask, is it possible to disable that particular skills effect? This is the clip, for reference https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1469072401450012774/1486666963068387428/Replay_2026-03-26_12-01-30.mp4?ex=69c65600&is=69c50480&hm=39036ed32fa1c8eb310ec765f449c76cec25f6ca4ec072c1510312b6bd8d6ed1&

[hardy owl]

Patrick bateman from temu

[faint bobcat]

TrustTM the plan

We will fix Crimson

[rocky umbra]

How?

[faint bobcat]

by uploading videos on utube and shitposting but not actually solving any issues

the Kevin way

[worldly swan]

Even the game destruction physics has like 100-200 mili second delay, try it yourself, destroy something and see the delays.

[naive jackal]

@plush parcel In terms of character movement and responsiveness, it has a GTA 4, 5, and RDR 2 feel which those games get away with because mostly guns, but it's s atrange choice for a melee oriented game with character action/spectacle fighter combat

[dapper lake]

Is his plan to convince everybody irs okay for him to use Unreal engine but not anyone else💀

[hardy owl]

I actually love the weight the character has, its great

[faint bobcat]

probably, I dont have this skill so I cant check on my end yet

[lucid thorn]

Agreed

[dapper lake]

Yes its nature's echo and Ray reconstruction that causes the issue - the echo can be disabled w the hud mod do theoretically camln be fixed

[plush parcel]

I'm talking about inputs not registering

[vital bay]

Oooh, which hud mod would that be

[plush parcel]

you don't get it, my mouse click do not register if I click too fast.

[lucid thorn]

What's your fps

[dapper lake]

Im ngl im not sure, its the one that lists a bunch of things like removing particles and even parallax mapping on nexus

[lucid thorn]

And also why are you clicking fast

[dapper lake]

I haven't tried though

[naive jackal]

Oh, i play these melee action types of games on pad and not really having those issues with it

[vital bay]

found it, will give it a go, thank you!

[hardy owl]

Interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqyEltwhnCA

[stone comet]

[hardy owl]

are you the youtuber from that channel?

[stone comet]

Yes i am the plasma

[karmic quest]

ffs, anyone has a fix to RR blurriness on textures 🙁

[hardy owl]

ooh cool, i have watched some of your videos, great content

[karmic quest]

Only happens when I turn on RR, with it off on DLSS 4.0 Quality its not blury at all.

[true dagger]

can u show comparison what u mean

[stone comet]

Youve been plasma'd enjoy your life

[vital bay]

disabling swing trails fixes the issue, apparently! Good find! @faint bobcat fyi if this helps you too

thanks so much

[hardy owl]

lol, where are you from btw? your accent seems mediterranean

[stone comet]

Bro im not plasma wtf 😭

[true dagger]

xDDDDD

[lucid thorn]

Good news, you have a new role

[hardy owl]

lol, okay you said you were the plasma guy, you misslead me lol

[stone comet]

Im also gabe newell

Fuse too actually

[hardy owl]

discord humour i guess

[stone comet]

Brother theres like 0 things connecting me to plasma you just randomly ask me that seriously LOL

[lucid thorn]

You're on discord, he's on discord, case closed

[hardy owl]

you used the guys face, so it could be an indication that you are him

[lucid thorn]

Maybe he just likes him

[hardy owl]

You could have just said no I am not him like a normal adult

[stone comet]

Why would i say no

[lucid thorn]

Bro you're ripped you could shred any of us

[stone comet]

Thats not funny

[lucid thorn]

Maybe he was intimidated

[stone comet]

True

[hardy owl]

maybe he is gay yes

[lucid thorn]

Hey that's fine

[stone comet]

Oh is there something wrong with being gay?

[lucid thorn]

But I wanna focus on you being shredded for a sec

You're as shredded as the chicken I make on the stove what's your secret

[stone comet]

Being gay mayhaps

[ruby tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-going-on-wtf-is-gif-14892542

[stone comet]

We're being gay

[karmic void]

Hello!!! stick to gaming and Crimson Desert

stop farting mouths

[lucid thorn]

My desert has never

[lucid thorn]

What

[lucid thorn]

My desert has never been more crimson btw

[polar seal]

good news - found diamond.
bad news (look at screenshot at the visuals lol)

[lucid thorn]

What am I looking at

[polar seal]

I dunno it's all sparkly maybe it's just the diamond hehe

[stone comet]

My cloud wouldn't say that

[karmic void]

@crude marsh bro some scenes are perfect with your Mod, but I can see some issues daytime

[rocky umbra]

Whats a better option to avoid all the shitty noise - 1440p native or 3440x1440p fsr 4 quality?

[smoky brook]

I learnt a lot from this. Or at least why the psychoV tonemapper is needed. Like red being orange at high brightness. Fascinating stuff. It's actually incredible just toggling the Reno tonemapper and leaving everything else at vanilla

[lucid thorn]

I think native

But I don't know if it helps with noise

[paper heron]

Are you guys using RR or leaving it off

[hardy owl]

Yeah I didnt watch the whole thing but it was interesting hearing Shortfuse talking about this stuff

[lucid thorn]

Off but I don't have an RR card so I dunno if I count

[paper heron]

I can’t decide if it’s worth it

[rocky umbra]

The problem with RR is you cant use it with upscaling but it does look awesome

[hardy owl]

interiors without ray reconstruction dont look very good, so it depends on your priorities

[paper heron]

Really? I thought my dlss was working with rr

[crude marsh]

RR is upscaling

all in one

[paper heron]

So setting it to performance vs quality doesn’t do anything with RR enabled?

[crude marsh]

it does

[rocky umbra]

Wrong wording - you can use it with upscaling but it downgrades the result - so whats the point of th eperformance hit 🤷‍♂️

[lucid thorn]

Damn lazorr showed up like a ghost

[crude marsh]

RR is both SR and denoising

[scenic adder]

It replaces the upscaling preset with its own, so you can't use DLSS 4.5 presets and Ray Reconstruction

[crude marsh]

and the games lighting looks awful without RR

[lucid thorn]

Hey I think it looks okay 🙁 okay I'll give you lighting

[hardy owl]

Agreed

[iron cloud]

sup! guys do i need enable HDR in game? or with the Reno mod, I dont need to do that? tnx

[crude marsh]

enabled

[iron cloud]

tnx

[paper heron]

I’ve found (at least without Reno ) that using RR and ray tracing indoors makes everything look too bright and blue, and disabled it looks more atmospheric but has too many visual glitches

[rocky umbra]

Yes - needs enabling in-game. Gotta set your max brightness too

[crude marsh]

problem is they tied the RT lighting to really only enable it with RR

so without it everything is missing shading, interiors are just a mess, no AO, no shadowing on a ton of stuff

[paper heron]

I see

[crude marsh]

but yeah its... suboptimal, this games RT is a mishmash of poorly implemented stuff

at low res

would strongly suggest using RCAS with RR though

[jolly jolt]

25 fps and good graphics or 70fps and broken graphics, what a choice

[crude marsh]

its funny how poorly it runs when RR is just a single sample per pixel

optimized game my ass

[paper heron]

So my mod stack rn is the latest version of Reno, the let there be light mod, Optiscaler with mipmap edit and OptiFG for my 3060, no hud add on with parallax fix, and some reshade effects on top. Is there anything else you guys are using?

[hardy owl]

the camera mod, for me its essential

[paper heron]

cdc right? I’m using that too I just can’t decide if I like the dynamic camera movement or not

[gilded plover]

https://tenor.com/view/it-says-gullible-on-the-ceiling-cat-gif-10205891704001032892

[stone comet]

😭

[analog root]

I've been cranking rcas slider to max since day one

[hardy owl]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/65

[paper heron]

Dude we have shrek 1 AND 2 in here?

Peak

x2

[rocky umbra]

@paper heron These two : Optiscaler with mipmap edit and OptiFG for my 3060.

what it the mipmap edit for and why use OptiFG when XeFG works pretty well?

[wintry hound]

Is optiscaler necessary for the mipmaps or does profile inspector work?

[paper heron]

I heard (idk for sure) that setting mipmap bias to -15 in optiscaler sharpens the further away textures for foliage

And idk optifg worked flawlessly with the hudfix and ran way smoother than dlssG on optiscaler so I just kept using it

[paper heron]

I’m not sure I don’t really use the inspector

[rocky umbra]

Ah ok. from my testing - xefg is the smoothest - lowest latency as well.

[wintry hound]

No worries. Ive heard it didnt work, so thats why i am asking. Also sorry, its not 2 different Shreks.

[paper heron]

Dude you’re still shrek 1 and 2 that’s hilarious

Why not 3 tho

[paper heron]

I want to test it out how are you using it?

[swift geyser]

so optisclaer is better than dlls q preset l? i want the sharpest shit cause my eyes are already blurry

[wintry hound]

3rd one was not as good as the first 2

[paper heron]

I’m using RR with Reno hdr on and using the sharpening override in optiscaler at .9 and it looks pretty fuckin sharp, like an E3 trailer

[rocky umbra]

With Opti - frame gen set to dlss in your case - then xefg.

Frame gen enabled in-game ofc.

[paper heron]

Okay thx I’ll try it out

[eager epoch]

Yes by far, it looks like DLAA for me, I’m not sure if it is the same as using DSR but in crimson specifically it looks grt

[swift geyser]

what should i set dlss to then? or turn it off? but then i cant turn on rr

[paper heron]

I’m guessing Pailune will be snowy but are there windy blizzards and stuff in this game like they showed of years ago or is it just a white terrain

[eager epoch]

U keep ur settings, DLSS Q and RR

[swift geyser]

i have reno sharpen on 100 and the other on 0.9 like you said

[true dagger]

use rcas not vanilla sharpening in reno btw

[stone comet]

I tried running optiscaler but it felt stuttery?

[paper heron]

Nice, playing with dlss and sitting a little far back from my monitor and it doesn’t look TOO sharp, just very crispy and sharp

[stone comet]

Was a setting fucking me or something

[swift geyser]

any difference between 2.0 and 3.0? only fps is worse a bit

[hollow solar]

ah yes a skill to deep fry my game, what I needed

[eager epoch]

Try FSR 1 its sharper and looks better imo

[paper heron]

I didn’t like optiscaler 0.9.0 im using 0.7.9 I believe

[vital bay]

We found a fix, see after messages

[eager epoch]

3.0 is higher res

[rocky umbra]

Seriosuly??

[swift geyser]

yeah true game looksless sharper with what i had

[eager epoch]

You can adjust sharpness further with reno cas

Or decrease it, 3.0 require less sharpness

[swift geyser]

this is what i got rn

and here should be good

[green wasp]

2.0 is good enough for me with DLSS Q

[eager epoch]

Yes, looks very very close to DLAA, I’m not sure how optiscaler achieves that… Is it upscales the DLSS or its like DSR.. not sure

[stone comet]

Wouldn't that double sharpness?

[swift geyser]

yeah thats the point

[stone comet]

Bro what LMAO

Who you trying to cut with the game that sharp

[static crag]

Is it worth using it? Does it make dlss better?

[lucid thorn]

His demons

[stone comet]

True....

[swift geyser]

idk heard people dont like sharpness. i mean if you wanna feel like your half blind sure

[hollow solar]

Don't we all love when a game that cost 70$ dollar need almost every part of it to be fixed for it to be bearable to look at. What a day to be alive

[static crag]

No

[stone comet]

Dunno man it looks pretty clear with 0 sharpness to me

[digital quest]

It tells DLSS to upscale to a higher resolution then downsamples with the algoritm you have chosen.

[static crag]

We don't

[swift geyser]

yeah bro i can see the mold on rocks 3km far away

[paper heron]

we need to wipe the shit off of this game hopefully there’s a jewel underneath it

[eager epoch]

Make it look like DLAA without paying the price, this one is too good to be true, I still dont understand where is the catch, black magic

[static crag]

Awesome thanks

Dlss looks shit on 1440p

Even dlaa

Have to use DSR just to play at 40 fps native

[swift geyser]

this is how it looks. maybe a bit too sharp for some people buts its nice for me

[static crag]

Looks a lot better so

[swift geyser]

the ss does not do it any justice

[static crag]

I really can't tell with screenshots

Yeah

[swift geyser]

yeah try it ou yourself

[analog prism]

can someone give me a ELI5 what the optiscaler DLAA thing is and if it's worth using over DLSS quality?

[static crag]

Yup I'll do it later

[eager epoch]

Im messing with it for the past hours, pls let me know am I hallucinating or its truly great

[static crag]

Are you playing at 1440p?

[hollow solar]

objectively I would have been fine with no "fancy tech", if the game didn't: shimmer, boil, flicker, warp, pop in, render low res asset, low res texture, low res CSM, ect...

[analog prism]

your highlights seem overblown though

[dapper lake]

ooh nice - did this remove the echo after affect itselfas well? ill give it a look

[swift geyser]

some magician blessed us and makes games look better without a huge perf hit i think

[eager epoch]

Im also at the same exact area lol

[eager epoch]

Yes

[swift geyser]

yeah the screenshot went wrong

[viscid wedge]

all this happen but i'm still absolutely enthalled by the world loving the hell out of playing the game

[static crag]

Could you share some settings? Or something like that so I can try it out

[swift geyser]

idk how to take one that looks like what im seeing

[analog prism]

try win+alt+prtscreen

[dapper lake]

actually see its seperated from the echo after image - strange i hadnt noticed it till then it must just be the doubling up made me click lol. CHeers!

[eager epoch]

I just use this

[vital bay]

Yep, that's exactly what it does as far as i can tell

[analog prism]

is it worth it if you have nvidia gpu and how does it work

[green wasp]

i think sharpness 0 is suit for upscaler

worth than DLAA

[static crag]

ty man will try it out rn

dlaa right?

[analog root]

If I use this and dlss performance or up would the game still look better?

[eager epoch]

Use it on DLSS Q

[static crag]

awesome

[eager epoch]

It should be used on the DLSS quality level each plays

[static crag]

is there anything I should do to work with renodx?

[eager epoch]

If u normally play on DLSS Q than keep it

[eager epoch]

Yes you have to pick the winmm.dll during installation

[green wasp]

lower saharpness lol

[eager epoch]

Cuz dxgi.dll is used by reshade (reno)

[analog prism]

so you download optiscaler, install it thats it?

[static crag]

I cant find it

that's optiscaler right?

[eager epoch]

Hit setup windows

[eager epoch]

Right

[static crag]

done

ty man

[hardy owl]

Is opsticaler easy to install along with renodx?

[static crag]

very easy

just copy these to the bin64 folder
open setup windows and choose winmm.dll

[hardy owl]

I am seeing their website, the latest update is from august 2025. Is that the one?

[static crag]

yeah

[sterile sable]

yes just rename optiscaler.dll to d3d12.dll

[crude marsh]

ELI5: render same resolution, upscale to higher resolution, downscale to screen

[sterile sable]

well the catch is transparency aliasing, character head with hair not looking so good when moving camera, it dissolves to pixels

[hardy owl]

It says opsticaller.dll is not found when launching setup windows

[sterile sable]

you do not need to launch setup just rename, launch game and hit insert

[crude marsh]

basically its just more upscaling which can help produce a better result for reasons

[hardy owl]

I dont have insert in my keyboard. I am using a portable keyboard which is easier when in front of a tv but it lack some buttons.

[eager epoch]

I need to test with other types of downscalers like NIS instead of FSR 1

[hardy owl]

Any other way to open it?

[viscid wedge]

I've never used this but the github says

Pressing Insert should open the Optiscaler Overlay in-game with all of the options (ShortcutKey= can be changed in the INI file, or under Keybinds in the overlay).

[crude marsh]

change the keybind

[viscid wedge]

so just change it to what you want in the config

[digital quest]

NIS is hot garbage so thats why its not there

[eager epoch]

Yeahh any alternatives to the current list?

[sterile sable]

developers still need to get their shit together and fix visuals. RR missing parallax is definitely not intended - just developers not include RR in any of presets and that's why it get disabled with it on judging from xml files in 011 folder (there's also mention of android version of game lol)
however parallax seems broken in general, some surfaces become better with it, some dissolve to mess, they definitely need to enable it on per material basis

[eager epoch]

Hope to see something done on the matter in upcoming patch

[crude marsh]

it doesnt get disabled with RR

RR is processing the normals and denoising them

[static crag]

well... I see a difference but its not day and night

[crude marsh]

and their shitty POM implementation gets denoised by RR

there is some screen space displacement map stuff too

its basically just a bad implementation

and old

[sterile sable]

so we coming back to RR being in wrong place of pipeline again?

[stone comet]

They are still using their 15+ year old engine prob why

[sterile sable]

like it was with rain

[crude marsh]

I dont think there is a way around it with their implementation as it is

[static crag]

Dlss quality with optiscaler 3x vs 4k dlss performance without optiscaler

if anyone wants to check, with 4k dlss performance I get like -5 fps compared with the other one

[crude marsh]

but Forge thought he might be able to change how POM is calculated

[static crag]

holy shit

I was wrong

it DOES look better with optiscaler

[crude marsh]

I also have some scripts set up to change all of the games heightfields

so all the output scaling is doing is upscaling more, and DLSS generally works better with higher output resolutions

[static crag]

well actually

some things yes some things no

[sterile sable]

is there a way to up clouds and other volumetric resolution?

[crude marsh]

wdym, clouds are super high res, they render at 1/64th

[eager epoch]

Make sure u configure it proper, I reduce sharpening in reno for 3.00 cuz its too sharp

[static crag]

craazzyyy

i forgot to change

sharpness is at 100 lmao

[rocky umbra]

RrR is out of the question for me. Too taxing but it looks so ugly with quality at 1440p

[sterile sable]

well i'm not pa developer so they look like shit to me

[crude marsh]

1/64th resolution is an absolute joke

[sterile sable]

i mean

[viscid wedge]

lol

[crude marsh]

these devs

[sterile sable]

they look kinda fine until something like bird moves in front of them

[crude marsh]

basically just chose absolute minimum for EVERYTHING

[sterile sable]

then they dissolve

[flint moss]

Just came here and saw a long convo about optiscaler, is it worth getting?

[sterile sable]

yeah like come on give us preset with higher vram usage for more stable visuals and less pop ins

[flint moss]

Perfectly optimised

[crude marsh]

they are just using the stupid trick that works

if you call the settings cinematic, then most people are too stupid to notice they are actually ultra low settings and then call the game optimized

[viscid wedge]

I don't think I've even seen close to half my VRAM allocated. Bring it on, PA!

[crude marsh]

legitimately people lose their minds over the names of settings

if you make epic epic, then someone with a 3080 goes WHY CANT I RUN ALL EPIC WITH HIGH FPS

if you make low still good quality but performant WHY SHOULD I RUN LOW

[stone comet]

True lmao

[hardy owl]

I just installed optiscaller, and I am playing at 4k with DLSS Quality. Is this the only settings I should change?

[crude marsh]

thats the only relevant setting yeah

[hardy owl]

And what does it do exactly? Rendering at higher resolution?

[eager epoch]

I red that some play with the mip map and aniso but I didnt test those yet

[faint bobcat]

So clouds are a major PITA tried a bunch of things but not much improvements shader side. Needs engine side higher quality forcing and or a complete remake

[crude marsh]

no

[faint bobcat]

moving on to grass now

[spare quartz]

output scaling just sounds like dldsr or am I missing something?

[dire venture]

Crimson Desert has been running fine but only sometimes crashes when I'm in menus, anyone else still having the same issue even after their latest patch?

[crude marsh]

output scaling is similar to dldsr yes

you just upscale more

and then downscale

the end

[static crag]

i would say its basically it but it gives better performance

[faint bobcat]

they didnt apply any shader side AO or darkening on the grass / foliage. It is all uniform throughout (unless they baked a bit of AO on some grass in the texture)

[sterile sable]

eh, still unable to get decent night lighting, with reno even with 2x exposure and dark power to 100 it's too dark

[crude marsh]

it would perform roughly the same at the same render res

but output scaling is much more convenient and capable of a wider range

[spare quartz]

simple DSR then. DLDSR is a bit heavier

[crude marsh]

DSR would be more expensive

[static crag]

fuck this game honestly

[green wasp]

performance better than dldsr

[spare quartz]

only because multipliers are not flexible right? The algorithms are simple for it

[faint bobcat]

Alpha testing uses a hashed dither pattern, and they also apply VRS but its a different kinda that our toggle doesnt affect yet

[crude marsh]

literally all output scaling is doing is saying HEY DLSS UPSCALE MORE

[hardy owl]

So you are gonna try to improve the foliage shadow?

[faint bobcat]

_488 = _453 * 1.1; // R
_489 = _454 * 1.1; // G
_490 = _455 * 1.1; // B

hmmm

they applied a 1.1 brightness boost

to all foliage

including back side

[lucid thorn]

👀

[faint bobcat]

also

those green and bright ass shrubs

you see

[eager epoch]

I was under the impression that it just takes the DLSS Q (in my case 960p) and upscale it to 7640x4320 than fit it into a 1440p res with some method.

While DSR is like u actually render the game at higher res than downsample to mon native res which is much more demanding

[faint bobcat]

those are separate material

and they have a brightness boost

[crude marsh]

output scaling only changes DLSS output yes

[analog prism]

any idea why I don't get the overlay when pressing the hotkey. im assuming its not correctly installed. I tried changing insert to VK_DELETE too

[static crag]

@analog prism

[eager epoch]

If this is true how come 3.00 output scaling looks almost identical if not better than DLAA (maybe just in this game)? I mean DLAA has to be superior due to higher amount of information

[crude marsh]

upscaling is good

[flint moss]

Im already using dldsr, can I use optiscaler on top of that?

[crude marsh]

models like generating higher res output

[analog prism]

yeah I copied those files and selected winmm

[rocky umbra]

Hmm, are the ratio changes working for anyone in opti? Im trynna get higher than 2240x960 but the changes in the .ini dont work at all 🤔

[viscid wedge]

good morning optiscaler cha.. oh, erm

[spare quartz]

This has been seen for a long time. Quirk of ~~transformer ~~neural net. You are not asking it to do enough with DLAA

[fallen hedge]

What would yall recommend for scaling and settings on a 5090 4k RR preset to target 120fps with frame gen on?

[violet silo]

Hey idk who here is wokring on this and I know it is still WIP

[fallen hedge]

I'm running balanced dlss with fgx2

To get basically that

[violet silo]

but holy shit it's such an improvement for Crimson Desert, thank you guys you're amazing

[fallen hedge]

But idk if I can get a better output

I'm also using HUB recommended graphics settings

[violet silo]

my eyes were bleeding from this game with its stupid bright moon and stupid-ass auto exposure and I couldn't believe people are ok with nights and interiors

[sterile sable]

Does AWB in Reno works properly? Like in this room there's a bunch of blue light sources, but with AWB from reno they all become yellowish?

[fallen hedge]

Yeah the overexposure was insane

[stone comet]

It might be moreso autoexposure than awb, autoexposure is linked to all lighting and it kills light sources and how much they produce

[static crag]

multi frame gen lol

theres not really anything you can do

[fallen hedge]

I'm hitting it with x2 frame gen and balanced dlss

[sterile sable]

autoexposure from reno (alternative) is disabled on these screenshots

[static crag]

maybe wait a few days so people can figure out how to optimize the game lol

[fallen hedge]

Performance dlss with no fg felt smooth, it was roughly 85-100 fps

But the visuals were bad in this game

[sterile sable]

but with it enabled it's kinda worse, like there's no light at all

[fallen hedge]

At performance

[static crag]

have you tried x3 frame gen?

with dlss balanced

[fallen hedge]

No, I think x2 is enough for balanced fps wise

[static crag]

but

you said you wanted more fps

[violet cobalt]

I can't believe I watched a GameSpot video on "37 things you didn't know on Crimson Desert" and it was actually good

[fallen hedge]

I was just asking if there's a better output scaller

[violet cobalt]

slop game of the year

[fallen hedge]

My bad I wasn't clear enough, I mean is there anything I can do outside the game like optiscaler to get a better image with this fps target

Like is there a way to make dlss performance not look terrible here for example 💀

[violet cobalt]

should I be using any of the lillium's addons or nah

[viscid wedge]

this works because there are 6 million systems in this game and they're poorly explained

[static crag]

try it out yourself

download optiscaler

and compare

what I do is take screenshot with reshade

[fallen hedge]

What should I do with optiscaler tho

Never used it before

[static crag]

this

but you will lose some performance

will probably look close to balanced with same performance maybe it will look worse? I dont know

[fallen hedge]

So what does this do exactly?

[static crag]

upscales dlss then downscales it

[fallen hedge]

I think the problem with the game dlss is that it makes the game render shadows and some other details at really low res

[static crag]

something like that

[static crag]

4k dlss quality looks really good

[fallen hedge]

Yeah it does

It just runs horribly

[static crag]

why dont you use that if fps arent a problem

[fallen hedge]

💀

[static crag]

ohh

both visuals and fps are a problem

same problem here

either good visuals bad fps or the other way

[fallen hedge]

Balanced and x2 fg is the sweetspot for me rn

Still needs work tho

[stone comet]

PT legit runs better maxed out in cyberpunk and just looks better overall too 😭

[fallen hedge]

Just wait 5-6 years like you did for cp77 and it will look and run good trust

💀 💀

[static crag]

LMAO

[static crag]

people are finding ways to optimize the game so I would just wait ig

[spare quartz]

nvidia keeps saying 'dlss 4.5 and path tracing' in their ads for new games

there is no new RR so that's a lie

[static crag]

if the devs doesnt fix them ofc but I dont think so

they're fixing bugs and stuff like that

[viscid wedge]

I'm perfectly happy with this for now on 4090 at 4K. Too many things to fiddle with, i'm just playing the game at this point.

[fallen hedge]

Same

Was just asking for ideas

[stone comet]

Played it on release and it was relatively fine then too

[fallen hedge]

💀

[mortal wolf]

@fallen hedge still fixing the garbage that is cp2077 HDR

[fallen hedge]

[mortal wolf]

(top left of each image is sdr/hdr luts)

[stone comet]

Youre still not done on its hdr???

Thought youd have abandoned it by now LOL

[mortal wolf]

it gets psychov testing

luts are broken. i did a universal fix to scale LUTs, but you can't scale from 0 (crushed hdr luts)

some HDR luts crush black, some luts raise black. and this is compared to its same SDR lut. no consistency, no logic. HDR LUTs are RNG

[static crag]

same, played it on a gtx 1650 (laptop)

so yeah I would say it was relatively fine

only had like 2 very annoying bugs, the other ones were just funny

[faint bobcat]

their AWB is seing that the room has a bit of yellow and goes

OK LETS DELETE YELLOW BY MAKING IT BLUE

the purple / violet glowing stone becomes blue with AWB

when its actual colour is purple

[stone comet]

Unironically the last gen release did such irreparable harm lmao

[analog prism]

Sorry for kinda spamming optiscaler in reno server but im having no luck in getting the overlay to show up

[paper heron]

do you have msi afterburner or rtss?

or steam overlay?

disable all of those if you do

[worthy belfry]

whats everyone using it for?

[paper heron]

im using it for frame gen on my 3060

but im using version 0.7.9 its more stable for me

dlss frame gen

[green wasp]

FG and Output Scaling

[worthy belfry]

i see

does output scaling look better than dlss then in this game? Or is it to be used with it?

is it just downsampling?

[flint moss]

What happens if u use ingame FG with optiscaler FG, does it work?

[green wasp]

work together with DLSS Q to get more good quality than DLAA

[worthy belfry]

performance cost?

im running at 1440p dlss balanced rn lol

[green wasp]

RTX 30 don't have FG in this game

[flint moss]

Thats rough

[sterile sable]

so reno mixing them all together am I right?

[analog prism]

yes I have afterburner, I use it for undervolt because my GPU is LOUD. But ty I guess that's the issue then

[faint bobcat]

the actual colours of the scene are without AWB

You might have just gotten used to their AWB bluing everything

but since AWB is also tied to exposure

[thorn grove]

there are 433 different weapons, ive seen like 8 lmao

[paper heron]

lmk

[faint bobcat]

any time you move or shift, its constantly changes hues

with AWB

I found it annoying

[paper heron]

reno addon causing startup crashes infinite loading for anybody here? it might be specific to e

[sterile sable]

No, I play with it disabled (recommended settings), was just testing things in this room and noticed

[rotund raptor]

thats not reno causing that

[paper heron]

incompatibility on my side then, its fine when reno is removed

[dapper lake]

I had to rename reshades dxgi to reshade64.dll and then install optiscaler using dxgi and change a setting in the ini along the lines of "allow reshade "

[hollow kiln]

that guy is so angry it hurts

[wispy crown]

First I thought it was just the skylighting through GI but it was everywhere. Sometimes it can look really cool though and really fake skylight GI but lots of time it's just wrong.

[golden scaffold]

Yeah the WB in this one of fucked, it's like they're using camera adaptation tricks again when your camera will freak out the same way and make everything blue, something like that, it's my understanding. The fixed image looks correct the blue one is cursed it's not even a question for me. The game was full of this "lets make everything look like youre watching it trough a cheap phone camera on AUTO settings"

[lone inlet]

Can also just use dlss enabler. It's a single version.dll file that comes with optiscaler.

[paper heron]

and it has ssrtgi but im not sure if i like it

no clue on that i just use it for optiFG

[vital bay]

i found some side effects tho.. Unfortunately this also turns off fires everywhere

[lone inlet]

Yea that varies game by game. Some it looks decent in and some it looks pretty bad.

[dapper lake]

Yeah okay uhh I guess I'll be passing on that one then 🤣

[wispy crown]

So is there any hope you could just render them full res. With upscaling the clouds look kinda bad.

[vital bay]

on one hand, it makes combat .. playable

on the other, it destroys lighting.

[regal tundra]

Hey guys was playing fine this morning and now the add-on isnt loading properly. I tried removing addon from bin.64 and the readding but no luck. Any tips?

[vital bay]

need to somehow isolate the particular shader for just the nature's echo, but i've no clue how to do that

[regal tundra]

Does a new version break of the file break the source ?

[stone comet]

Check antivirus if its nuking it

[dapper lake]

I mean, its something to work with at least ig

[lone inlet]

The parallax occlusion mapping has issues as well. Any kind of slam attack from the air causes a black bar to appear on your screen momentarily. I've also noticed other weird issues with it like blocks randomly appearing. Had to turn it off.

[regal tundra]

I think you are correct

[paper heron]

i reinstalled optiscaler and opened the game without the reno addon, then after it loaded i reopened with the addon and it worked for me

[faint bobcat]

Its a mess