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[sick monolith]

depends if you like bright nights..

[elfin patrol]

Do we have a way to fix the DLAA + HDR black bar flicker at the top of the screen? Is using FSR Native AA sufficient or comparable? Think the game ships with FSR3.1 at least. Would prefer to not use DLSS Quality.

[worn ibex]

Wasn’t rhat fixed

[kindred shoal]

I think that was fixed in patch

[lament nymph]

it made me think this game is gonna looks nice

cause that looks nice

🤷‍♀️

[quaint cove]

FSR 3 is bad compared to DLSS

[outer furnace]

no it was not

[elfin patrol]

What patch? The one from a few days ago? It's still an issue

[sick monolith]

u can try FSR 3 input then DLSS 4 output in optiscaler

[kindred shoal]

oh that sucks then

[elfin patrol]

Yes of course, but I'm talking FSR3 Native AA compared to DLAA, for 100% res scale

[kindred shoal]

I turned it on for a bit and it was working but I know it was sporadic

[elfin patrol]

Ah true, I'll give that a shot

[quaint cove]

I would just go with Quality tbh

[kindred shoal]

DLAA is a little too much anyway

[lament nymph]

I just want to play thru the game to find out if there's any tracks that's good

[kindred shoal]

unless i turn settings down

[lament nymph]

so far not a lot

[kindred shoal]

but who does that

[steady orbit]

hi.is anyone got link to renodx for this gamr?

[lament nymph]

replacing the music is for when you are sure this is gonna be garbage

[steady orbit]

game

[stone comet]

what happened to the guy who was gonna test the sus mod manager

did he live

[steady orbit]

without virus

[primal estuary]

read

[naive jackal]

I think the loading animation is cool when you're using the teleport stones but when you're just trying to get into the the game first time it's annoying, it's like 3 loading screens in succession, tunnel of cubes into light, character slowly getting to feet, then slow walk to a cube shaped thing

[sick monolith]

but the pin got a virus

[elfin patrol]

Yeah I've been using Quality but then once I tried DLAA, it resolves a lot of shimmer/noise that you'd normally have resolved with RR. Don't really want to run RR unfortunately because even with a 9800X3D + 5080, running at 3440x1440 looks like ass if you use Performance/Ultra Performance, unlike 4K. Plus we're locked to a custom DLSS 4.0 preset for RR too so I can't win

[lucid thorn]

I got a few. There's one in particular where the girl is singing in the back? Chills

[lament nymph]

link pls .. I need to know which one

[hardy owl]

The game is loading a huge ass map with no loading screens. It makes sense to have a long loading screen

[kindred shoal]

I think the first load is to leaod the game proper then the 2nd is to load you into your save

[steady orbit]

is this real virus or is safe to use renodx?

[naive jackal]

Sure but i'd prefer just an old black screen with loading on it instead watching the dude slow walk to portal lol

[quaint cove]

I am running DLSS 4.5 Balanced RR looks fine for me. Far better compared to non RR, game looks completely different, night and day difference. on 2560x1440p

[stone comet]

LMAO

[worldly swan]

can we have a slider for the improved auto exposure thing? or at least one with 50% less effect to reduce indoor darkening?

[sick monolith]

it is real and a virus at the same time

[lament nymph]

I just want them to fix the balloon being unsummonable

[upbeat magnet]

is the virus in the room with us right now?

[steady orbit]

ok not download then

thank you

[primal estuary]

i think its not dark enough tbh

[kindred shoal]

a lot of the visual issues is because of the low res RT effects

[sudden pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-stupid-brainlet-wojak-meme-gif-17170021

[stone comet]

we were the virusues all along

[primal estuary]

dawg ur loss

[kindred shoal]

need a mod or a patchthat increses the effect resolution

[primal estuary]

its illogical to think we all downloaded a virus

[kindred shoal]

similar issue in Dragons Dogma 2

[rough granite]

(ShortFuse just became a billionaire with our data wdym)

[naive jackal]

@quaint cove Turning RR on just puts you back to DLSS 4, RR has not been updated by nvidia to work on transformer model 2

[lucid thorn]

I'll try to find it

[quaint cove]

I know, it picks the recommended model. I still select 4.5 tho

[primal estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-man-doughboy-boyz-n-the-hood-damn-dang-it-gif-21699401

[scenic adder]

That doesn't make a difference with RR on

[elfin patrol]

Using RR overrides your DLSS preset with a custom DLSS 4.0 variant, and changing your DLSS version in game doesn't make any changes. Unfortunately balanced is even too blurry for my eyes, and I'm generally not THAT picky.

[quaint cove]

I know..

As I said

[kindred shoal]

if renodx is a virus they been running the long con

lol

[quaint cove]

I am on Balanced so it does not matter

[lament nymph]

I'll let them have my data

even my nudes my my documents

post them anywhere u like

[elfin patrol]

I mean yeah, but you said DLSS 4.5 and I'm letting you know that mentioning it is irrelevant since you're not on DLSS 4.5 with RR.

[quaint cove]

Yeah, I misspoke, that's the option I picked. I know it's using preset K

[naive jackal]

Anyone find it weird though that Nvidia haven't got it going on model 2 yet, hope they aren't planning to spring it as 60 series exclusive

[lament nymph]

model 2?

[naive jackal]

RR on model 2

[sick monolith]

lol gatekeeping th 5090 already

[lament nymph]

you mean dlss 4.5 ?

[stone comet]

isnt dlss 4.5 irrelevant if youre using RR anyways?

[quaint cove]

No, I'm sure they are working on it. 60 series wont come until 2028, because of chip shortages.

[kindred shoal]

yea 6000 series not coming anytime soon lol

[stone comet]

AI datacenters dont need 6000 series to keep printing infinite money for nvidia

[lament nymph]

RR just doesn't support it yet, sooner or later

[stone comet]

[lucid thorn]

I cannot find it haha I'll try periodically. Nobody's posted much of the ost

[stone comet]

Its genuinely cringe since realistically theres no reason to not launch it together

[lament nymph]

4.5 is arguably the best image jump since dlss inception

dlss 2 was blurry as hell, 3 was not so much better, 4 is a step i nthe right direction 4.5 was ... nice to look at

[sick monolith]

u mean sharpness jump?

[lament nymph]

dlss was not so good at fine particle details

[quaint cove]

What are you on about, it's obviously DLSS 5 😎

[lament nymph]

4.5 was awesome on that front

[wispy crown]

What even is that mystery Transformer Model 2? It's the same architecture just a bigger transformer model with hardware FP8 isn't it? Ray Reconstruction already is quite big and native FP8 so updating doesn't make any sense unless it's general improvements.

[faint bobcat]

yes, I dont think we are ready for RR trashformer v2 cost

cant wait to lost 75% perf for that one

[lament nymph]

very hard to see

[wraith sphinx]

I would really love to use DLSS 4.5 Preset M in Performance Mode and RR. That would be so nice.

[lament nymph]

immediately better

[quaint cove]

Do you have the lighting tweaks?

[lament nymph]

yes I was just testing the auto exposure setting

[viscid wedge]

The dream. Really just an updated RR and hope its not too heavy. (since it takes over scaling duties)

[quaint cove]

It might need some tweaking, otherwise I guess change contrast or exposure

[primal estuary]

unless i adjust my contrast and other settings from base my nights never get this dark even with the latest version of reno

[lament nymph]

different between areas

[wraith sphinx]

Perhaps Nvidia will surprise us with something. A new, improved FG model and Dynamic MFG are supposed to be released next week.

[naive jackal]

@wraith sphinx Well at least it'll give techtube something else to talk about other than giga glazing PSSR non stop

[flint moss]

I'd even use ultra performance preset with rr on 4.5, that my gpu can manage

[jade flame]

They could surprise me by making a new driver that isn't vibe coded.

[viscid wedge]

Oh thats right!

[viscid wedge]

If you're using RR, you're not using 4.5 (the in game menu is lying to you)

[ionic parcel]

how did you achieve that effect? 😄

[flint moss]

Yeah I know its just wishful thinking that it will be possible one day

[worn ibex]

Dlss 2 and 3 were the same, 3 was added for transformer

[dire venture]

Uncle Bob is that you from the hit series clean code? http://cleancoder.com/products

[lament nymph]

that's why I said was not so much better

4 is when they added transformer

[ivory sandal]

Really not a fan of the autoexposure setting. The game was very clearly designed with it in mind

[faint bobcat]

Duality of man

[ivory sandal]

Honestly it’s not even offensive in this game to begin with. Only problem is the noise

[faint bobcat]

one hates it one luves it

I will default it to off

and I am hard coding the cbuffers

should stop the shifts depedning on weather

or whatver else is controlling it

[glass axle]

creative intent can go rope

[ivory sandal]

I think this is a good idea. That it’s an opt-in for those informed and you get fewer people wondering how to fix it being too dark

[ivory sandal]

I’m not even talking about creative intent. You literally need a second mod to make autoexposure off useable lol

[lavish pumice]

Guys this file goes in instlal folder of game?

[golden scaffold]

In gonna finally test it now. It's something that really annoyed me (since bdo as well) and can't imagine myself living without this thing finally gone. If nights are too dark lower the adaptive contrast to 45 or 40.

With the exposure defaults it even nuclear blinds me in the caves with the lamp, it's unplayable, I need a separate 1000 peak 100 game brightness 40 contrast profile just for caves until now (instead of lamp blinding you at 2000 nits full blast)

But it's not just about the nits. It clips the image even on hdr I think, no matter what

Do you guys actually enjoy clipping? Only issue from screens I can assume is nights being too dark but that's adjustable

[low crane]

Can lazzors light fix still be used with default exposure, or do i have to replace the og files ?

[glass axle]

at this point i'm willing to install 10 more mod if it make my slop taste slightly better

[flint moss]

I'd do 100

[steady orbit]

when renodx mod coming on nexus mod site?

[stone comet]

it has virus forever

[viscid wedge]

bin64, where the games executable is

[neon whale]

not anytime soon

[hardy owl]

So this will make it so when the weather is very bad, it wont get darker correct?

[stone comet]

holy shit this one guy on nexus for CD is spazzing out cause they also made a glide stamina mod

😭

[dire venture]

I've just been enjoying the latest Reno mod and disabling the auto exposure when night time hits depending on what I'm doing

[lavish pumice]

One more question, the windows HRD switch needs to be on or can be off and i just turn on HDR in game?

[naive jackal]

There were a lot of people on the steam forums crashing out last night over the bosses getting nerfed "anyone that beats it now never really beat the game reeee!"

[faint bobcat]

All of this started becasue me and other users hated the nuclear flashbanging + nights are just day time aspect of the game. So I went around to solving both

The problem is, you cant just do a simple auto exposure off and fix nuclear flashbangs whilst also making nights dark whilst also keeping interiors looking exactly the same with the same brightness. It doesnt work like that.

Pearl specifically authored this game (probably becasue their base RT is bad and lacks bounced lighting) to instead rely on auto exposure

Now it turns out that some nights are dark

whilst others arent for whatever reason. I am working on thsi

[viscid wedge]

Are you trying to play the game in HDR? What are you trying to fix with the mod?

[lavish pumice]

Yes in HDR (samsung g9)

[viscid wedge]

HDR will need to be on in Windows, the game, and you really should run the HDR calibration tool beforehand.

[deft pulsar]

if only one could toggle the autoexposure with the mind boggling press of 2 buttons

[lavish pumice]

mainly to improve picture as the normal HDR the grass looks like its from chernobyl

ok I did it once but in a video people talked that with the calibration tool they dont JUST get the final image but they go a bit further, is that important?

[faint bobcat]

in theory, every part of the game should now used a fix auto exposure setting as dicated by the addon

which might work

[lavish pumice]

Like here someone said they go further than the "goal" picture with the slider

[faint bobcat]

or might open up other problems

[viscid wedge]

are you running this while windows HDR is enabled? You should be. Which G9 is this exactly? Samsung is the worst with names.

[smoky brook]

Although im going with auto exposure off for now I really appreciate your work (+Jon + Shortfuse). The mod as a whole is fantastic and options are good

[hardy owl]

Hopefully this fix works. That being said in 35 hours of gameplay I haven't seen a single dark night time or rainy night time. Which means its very rare

[lavish pumice]

Yes windows HDR is on.

good question model code is LS49AG950NUXEN

[sick monolith]

why further?

[viscid wedge]

Ok cool. There is the G9 (49"), G9 Neo (49" MiniLED), G9 Neo (57" MiniLED), G9 OLED (49" QD-OLED).

You have the G9 Neo, which is pretty good for HDR. Peak brightness should be ~1000nits.

[elfin patrol]

First time using RenoDX, do I just install the Reshade setup from Nightly for Crimson?

[viscid wedge]

Reshade w/ Addon support from their website.
RenoDX build from the pinned posts here

[lavish pumice]

Yea 1000 nits this I looked up the other day.

[elfin patrol]

Ah yeah I saw the pinned. Is it just the updated "LetThereBeLight" file?

[lavish pumice]

I have all, and RenoDX visible in resdhade afte rpushing home button as a tab,

[viscid wedge]

Nope, its the .addon64 file. Drop it in the games bin64 folder which is where ReShade gets installed after running the installer.

[elfin patrol]

Perfect, got it - appreciate it! The other two files were confusing me

[golden scaffold]

What does that curve tell us? Too dark in the midtones too bright on highlights?it's very very off

[pure fiber]

Any way to fix error code 4556?

[viscid wedge]

your antivirus is likely interfering

[sick monolith]

blacks are clipped. highlights are overbrightened

[lavish pumice]

ok its on

[daring orbit]

They didn't need to nerf them the first day lol

[viscid wedge]

Yeah thats actually mentioned in the initial review.

[lavish pumice]

someone needs to help me as long as I have Windows HDR turned on (not auto HDR) the game seems to ahve nice colors when ingame HDR is off, as soon as I turn on HDR in game, the colors become dull and boring.

[golden scaffold]

So you basically get the vanilla CD/BDO experience out of the box

[pure fiber]

@viscid wedge everything is turrned off in windows defender but still getting the code

[lavish pumice]

unless this is normal 🙂 🙂

[pure fiber]

weird

[sick monolith]

it is because you dont follow the rules of th calibration process. follow the goal image

[pure fiber]

afaik was working fine yesterday

[viscid wedge]

do you have HDR enabled in game as well? Does the Vanilla/PsychoV-11 toggle in Reno have an effect?

[sick monolith]

do not go beyond

[quartz tendon]

Left looks amazing!

[lavish pumice]

I did follow precisely.

[lavish pumice]

Yes colors do change

[sick monolith]

the colors seem to be washed out to you because your SDR image which should be in rec709.. uses the full p3 or bt2020 of your monitor

when you switch to HDR.. the colors lose saturation when they are mapped correctly via calibration

HDR is not washed out. your SDR is probably oversaturated

[lament nymph]

nothing's going on but the snow glows blue

the sky isn't even blue

[lavish pumice]

That would make sense, but how? Prior to this I have never changed any color settings myself?

But to be fair, if your point is right, my SDR looks significantly better than HDR, does that even make sense?

Because windows colors are much worse on SDR than in HDR, so its only ingame.

[hasty onyx]

Anyone know why when I turned on hdr it adds a sharpening effect

[sick monolith]

there is nothing wrong with your HDR.

do you want to lose the SDR saturation and be accurate? if so, try to find sRGB mode and activate it when you are in SDR.

if you want more saturation with HDR.. renodx has a saturation slider adjust it to your preference

[smoky brook]

crank up highlights and saturation sliders in Reno if you want

[lavish pumice]

ok i paly around with it thanks

[viscid wedge]

its a configuration issue somewhere. thats not normal (unless you're simply used to heavily oversaturated SDR) but it sounds like what you're describing is basically grayscale

[lucid thorn]

Might be something with the upscaler. You should be able to reduce it thru reno or optiscaler

[sick monolith]

correct me if i'm wrong..

the windows SDR brightness slider should be 5 for 100 nits.

if you want sort of accurate hdr picture viewing on discord set it to 31.

[viscid wedge]

5% is 100 nits, 10% is 120 nits, 17% is 150 nits, 29% is 200 nits, 52% is 300 nits, and 100% is 500 nits

[sick monolith]

right then 31 is about 203 probably

[lament nymph]

I didn't know that ...

[viscid wedge]

yeah its a bit of a mess of a system but supposed to be more friendly for normies. (not that any of them know its there)

[lament nymph]

usually I set mine to 40% cause decently bright

[viscid wedge]

I think i have my LG C2 (HGiG on) set to 31 or 32

but I never turn HDR off, everything I play or watch is in HDR one way or another

[lament nymph]

alt + win + b for me if I do anything in sdr

which is 99% of the time

[lucid thorn]

Twinsies

[sick monolith]

does your monitor auto switch to sRGB in SDR?

[viscid wedge]

I figured once RTX HDR became a thing for video, I'd just go full in. All streaming video and even local (through MPC-HC) is in HDR, even if its not perfect. I never wanted to have to deal with the flip back and forth.

[sick monolith]

or you like bt2020 colors in SDR?

[hasty onyx]

Yeah might have to get optiscaler

[glad vessel]

Just today I figured out that you can block tags on Nexusmods. You can literally block the tag ReShade and you wont see them anymore

[sick monolith]

you can set the windows slider to a maximum of 10% and watch SDR as intended in HDR mode

[dapper lake]

I got this after the first patch and had to reinstall reshade + verify game cache

[lament nymph]

yes

[viscid wedge]

SDR, pshh

[sick monolith]

if you set 5 - 10% you don't have to switch anymore

[lament nymph]

but since I don't care much for color accuracy I just choose the wide color gamut by default, personal preference

[viscid wedge]

Its been 3 years, i'm set in my ways

[lament nymph]

ppl have their own way to do things

I wonder by what year is hdr the default and sdr is just legacy option for old monitors

[sick monolith]

when they become dirt cheap. but i doubt it.. hdr video bandwith is expensive. yt takes days or weeks to process hdr video

[viscid wedge]

Yeah i'm waiting on one right now that I uploaded Sunday night. Some have taken me 12 hours, some never worked at all.

[sick monolith]

have u tried the clipping 0.1 sec trick?

[viscid wedge]

the who what? lol

[cobalt sorrel]

Been a few days since i checked here. So the latest reno version’s defaults are meant for max settings and using RR, plus using the additional more lights mod?

[lament nymph]

you can literally walkthru the wall here, this is like super mario bros 1 with all the secrets

[cobalt sorrel]

And if RR performance cost is too much for our rig we should just forgo the exposure setting then?

[sick monolith]

if it's taking longer than usual.. you can edit the video in yt studio. cut a really small portion like 0.000001 sec at the end and then save. yt will reprocess your video if it got lost in the HDR queue

[cobalt sorrel]

Even with FG, game feels horrible with RR on for me

Amd FG is such trash sometimes

[viscid wedge]

Oh interesting. I'll give that a shot, thanks!

[outer furnace]

I tried and couldnt notice a difference in regards to auto exposure with RR off vs on so if you like the setting you can turn it on without RR as well i guess

[viscid wedge]

can't hurt to try, its just a toggle

[dapper lake]

I had to switch to controller and up the acceleration, theres a mod that"fixes" mouse input on nexus but I haven't tried it

[sick monolith]

you have to be indoors with many light sources to notice

[sick monolith]

brute force it with a 5090

[karmic quest]

Am I tweaking or you painted that shield? The option to paint it for me was disabled..

[cobalt sorrel]

When i tried it at night, it was raining i think and it was so dark

[lament nymph]

I painted it yes

[sudden pulsar]

@faint bobcat Finally slopped in.

Out of curiosity, what is justifying the Max Lighting setting to cut my framerate in half? (Everything else maxed out, 4K, no upscaling, just to test what is doing what) compared to Cinematic, when it looks almost identical on the sky island at the beginning?

Makes me go from 60-65fps to 30~

[cobalt sorrel]

I have a 9070xt and 9800x3d but RR makes me get like less than 60fps natively or somethin at max settings, but for some reason using FG doesnt feel like a smooth 120ish

[cobalt sorrel]

Did this im at like 85 accel

[karmic quest]

Bro how? It doesnt allow me yo paint it

[cobalt sorrel]

Dont got $3K to blow lol

[lament nymph]

I can just paint it so I have no idea

[karmic quest]

Wtf 😭

[deft pulsar]

rt reflections seem to be the culprit

[dapper lake]

I had to go all the way to 100 for it to feel right

[glad vessel]

You could also try FSR4 Int8 version. It does work on Nvidia, right?

[deft pulsar]

yeah, lighting preset controls rt reflections resolution

[faint bobcat]

with RR? refer to pin comments

without RR... I am not to sure, what the differences are between Cinematic and Max. Game is a mishmash of a bunch of techniques

[teal steeple]

Potentially turns on Ray Reconstruction, at least turning on Ray Reconstruction forces on Lighting = Max

[true dagger]

you have dye in your inventory right?

[lavish pumice]

Let me come back to my issue, because im a beginner.

So if I have HDR on in my windows settings. and the game has HDR turned off, regardless of the windows setting the game shows in SDR? until i turn on HDR there too?

[sick monolith]

yes correct.

[sudden pulsar]

Nah, without RR, not even DLSS like I said

[faint bobcat]

I havent checked

[karmic quest]

Well I had, I consumed. Do you need to have multiple?

[faint bobcat]

so I cant say

[sudden pulsar]

👍

[faint bobcat]

they just cobblled

together 7 techniques

[sudden pulsar]

Literal division by 2 lol

[faint bobcat]

and theyre all coping again one another

[true dagger]

i have no clue because i haven’t painted anything yet but ik you can buy or craft dyes so i assume i need those to paint or

[faint bobcat]

https://advances.realtimerendering.com/s2021/SIGGRAPH Advances 2021 - Surfel GI.pdf

theyre using this

as a basis

[elfin patrol]

Tried it and unfortunately it isn't even close as good as DLAA in this game, and a bit rough compared to even DLSS 4.0 Quality. Going insane because I just want to use DLAA + HDR and this game is fighting me with everything lmao

[sudden pulsar]

Which technically is fine

[karmic quest]

I think consuming unlocks that color gradient

But I could paint everything else on my armor, not my shield, weapons..

Maybe I havent progressed further

[faint bobcat]

1024 shadow map for the whole town isnt though, no wonder everything shimmers

[lavish pumice]

if i make a print screen with snipping tool without the HDR correction and you guys run on HDR means you see what I see in HDR?

[viscid wedge]

I don't wanna know the details of what is good/bad about division 2. I love how it looks lol.

[karmic quest]

It looks amazing imho

[viscid wedge]

no, don't use snipping tool. https://www.hdrmods.com/HDR-Screenshot-Guide

[hardy owl]

And what happens if you increase the resolutio of the shadow map? Is the performance hit too big?

[faint bobcat]

RT IMPROVEMENTS MIGHT BE RIP FELLAS

[viscid wedge]

It does, even today!

[lament nymph]

shit

[lucid thorn]

What I miss

[sick monolith]

install reshade.. press print screen.. the HDR or SDR image will be saved in the game folder beside the exe

[faint bobcat]

lot of boiling and noise in some interiors

[glad vessel]

Well, I wouldnt know because I am Team Red lol 🇫 Im just happy my RDNA3 card gets to play with FSR4 int8

[faint bobcat]

depending on the day

[lucid thorn]

This is what I'm doing

[lament nymph]

like these shadows?

[lucid thorn]

Fsr4 int8 costs like 10fps for me tho

[viscid wedge]

@lavish pumice honestly the easiest way. If you go to the Settings tab in ReShade you can also change the hotkey and the save directory if you want

[faint bobcat]

how? theres no easy config way.

Neither me or Lazorr have figured out how

that will require more debugging

[lucid thorn]

I can try to help you look around later

[hidden ivy]

Do I need to unpack something to use Lazorrs light changes?

[viscid wedge]

nope. backup the files it suggests then just drop the new ones in replacing whats there

[hardy owl]

So what's next in your list? Fixing the autoexposure being too dark and what else?

[wanton falcon]

make sure RTX hdr didn't enable itself. I've had that issue where it would still be on over the top of ingame hdr resulting in a washed out image

[ivory sandal]

Check the moon, maybe it’s the different phases. IE full moon is brighter than crescent

[viscid wedge]

Alt-F3 to check real quick @lavish pumice if already in game

[glad vessel]

Yeah it does tank a little compared to off, but I play on quality so its fine. I dont know if the newer 4.0.2b version has any benefits for RDNA3 but I use it anyway

[ivory sandal]

And yeah this was my concern. I sympathize with the flashing frustration. In the cyberpunk community the most common solution is cranking up the speed of the autoexposure such that it almost looks like it doesn’t exist but you still get the correct look

[lucid thorn]

I've been using AA quality 👀

I'm not sure if I even know how to change it. Do I change it in game and in optiscaler?

Maybe just in game

[lavish pumice]

RTX HDR is not on as I can see

[karmic quest]

😭

[glad vessel]

Im actually a lazy donkey, I just swap the .dll files and use the option in-game. I dont even use Optiscaler

[sick monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

[lucid thorn]

Oh you can do that I didn't know

[deft pulsar]

it's actually the best way to do it

[deft pulsar]

you can do that in any game which supports FSR 3.1 or FSR4

[lavish pumice]

i pushed print screen but it kinda did a snippping tool anyway buit here are the two outputs

[glad vessel]

It depends on the game. For CD I had to rename the file and Optiscaler gives you way more options, but I have always been too lazy to fiddle around with it

[lucid thorn]

Oh I see

[lavish pumice]

its the same thing i think ?

[sick monolith]

this came from reshade?

yeah it seems right

[lavish pumice]

well i pushed print screen and it gave me a tool to sleect the area I want to make a print screen of so it wasnt the original print screen we think about

[frail wyvern]

https://youtu.be/ybSTkBBibVc

[sick monolith]

@lavish pumice

[ancient island]

Is it normal for clouds to have a clipped look?

[sick monolith]

normal as pearly abyss intended yes

[lament nymph]

creative intent

[sick monolith]

with renodx no

[lament nymph]

renodx is not respecting the creative intent

booo

[sly vigil]

anyone recommend any OLED monitors that dont have flicker with VRR

[ancient island]

Even with reno, they look better but still clipped

[sly vigil]

no budget necessary can drop 2 grand if I need to

[ancient island]

Maybe it is my monitor but I don't see this in other games

[lament nymph]

what's your pc specs?

[sick monolith]

adjust your peak brightness in renodx settings. match it to your windows calibration nits

[sly vigil]

5800x3d, 5070ti

want a 1440p one ideally

[lament nymph]

yea u may want to upgrade that instead for less vrr flicker

[wispy crown]

Sadge but makes sense. Seems like real improvements for the engine are hard to come by.

[ancient island]

KTC M27T6, 4070ti, 12700KF, 32 GB DDR4-3200

[viscid wedge]

doesn't exist. simply ensure you are getting high framerate. (OLED user for 3 years, only ever seen this occasionally in all black loading screen where the framerate fluctuates low)

[sly vigil]

yeah...not buying a new GPU because OLED's have crap VRR

[lament nymph]

it's more about not keeping your frame stable

[ancient island]

I tried, it's 1400 nits as per my monitor but even putting it lower doesn't fix it

[viscid wedge]

How many have you had?

[sly vigil]

what consitutes a high framerate? like 100+?

[crude marsh]

you can try better frame pacing

[sick monolith]

flicker comes from DSC. if you find a monitor or TV that does full 48gbps hdmi 2,1.. it will not flicker

[lament nymph]

it's not about high framerate it's about stable frame

[viscid wedge]

I don't think thats accurate

[sly vigil]

ok thanks for the tips, i'll just wait I guess

[viscid wedge]

I don't have DSC and I still see it but again only in all black/dark loading screens where the framerate dips around

[sly vigil]

or buy a cheap VA with enough local dimming backlights

[crude marsh]

frame pacing is the first thing I would try

[viscid wedge]

(LG C2, 4K120Hz, no DSC)

[sick monolith]

oh that means your gpu not powerful enough

[lament nymph]

since the dawn of times I've never ever gotten a vrr flicker ...

[sly vigil]

bloke's blind

[viscid wedge]

lol. well, there is only 1 thats more powerful that exists 🤣

Also thats not what that mean lmao

[sick monolith]

2 actually as per DLSS 5

it's a pair yknow

[crude marsh]

#1474481327691665553 has ReLimiter for reflex frame pacing, idk what the current state of display commander is, SK is good for it, or if nothing else RTSS

[sick monolith]

that looks like low quality DLSS to me than clipping

[viscid wedge]

I still don't think I've ever seen VRR flicker in actual active gameplay. Stalker 2 loading screen would do it, and thats the only time i remember it happening

[lament nymph]

never got a vrr flicker

[ancient island]

DLAA 4.0 at 1440p

[crude marsh]

Stalker was the worst about it for me otherwise hasn't been much of an issue

But stalker has horrible frame times

[lament nymph]

but then I oc my shit aggressively for daily use and my system is as clean as can be

[sick monolith]

this game is an exception DLAA here is nowhere near native

[lavish pumice]

HDR OFF

[lament nymph]

6400cl26 1:1 for daily use

[viscid wedge]

Stalker was a mess on a few levels, but I had fun

[lament nymph]

so even if there's shader stutter, I can't feel it

[lavish pumice]

funny thing is, HDR on in reality looks like the brightness is not there like my eyes feel like im looking at a low brightness pictures

[sick monolith]

this is correct

[crude marsh]

just on my phone, the SDR picture looks awful and HDR looks much better

[ancient island]

DLAA it's the only way to make it look decent, any dlss mode, even Quality blurries everything

[viscid wedge]

this looks good

[crude marsh]

SDR one is blown out and overbright

[lament nymph]

but dlaa is broken

[lavish pumice]

I cant do DLAA it drops to 50 fps and (5120x1440) 4090rtrx and the movement becomes choppy

[sick monolith]

upscaling OFF try it

[crude marsh]

someone posted upscaling off and it looked pretty bad

[ancient island]

Is the TAA good? I'm gonna try

[lavish pumice]

DLAA:

[lament nymph]

upscaling off disable rr by default

only dlaa looks quite alright, but then black bar flickers

[sudden pulsar]

This game can get so absurdly dim without the Improved Auto Exposure option. what da fook

[ancient island]

RR is too heavy for my setup

And if I use dlss quality or balanced ir looks like shit

Dlss is fucked in this game

[lavish pumice]

all i want is to be able to use smooth motion in nvidia app without blinking black bars (helped wonders in star citizen)

[viscid wedge]

Why would you want to use drive level framegen?

when you have native Nvidia FG in the game?

[sly vigil]

can finally make my fine fishing rod

[regal tundra]

this normal. Ive installed latest version of reshade and put add-on inb bin 64 folder

[lament nymph]

I have not fished since the game taught me how to fish I find it faster to just swim in the lake and catch the fish by hand

[sick monolith]

show us the reno tab

[lament nymph]

[lucid thorn]

I'm not sure if any do? I just turned off vrr on my display tho

[regal tundra]

nvm i think its cause i had hdr off before i launched

[lavish pumice]

whats this lol

[lucid thorn]

Do you have max lighting?

[regal tundra]

Should i turn effecte runtime sync off?

[lucid thorn]

I turned on max lighting with fsr to see and it gave me those blocks

[ruby tusk]

30-31 is what most want

[sick monolith]

yeah both generic and effect

[sick monolith]

i want 5 tbh

[lucid thorn]

Does it give any performance back

[sick monolith]

depends on how weak your system is

[viscid wedge]

oh, i've seen people with this issue before. I've not experienced it myself.

I'm also on 4090 but at 4K. I've been just playing the game at DLSS4.0 Performance + RR + FG. 90-100fps and smooth. Looks pretty damn good too. 5120x1440 is a little lower resolution so you might even be comfortable on Balanced.

[lucid thorn]

Well you know, she's doing get best. Around most people my systems decent.. Around here I think I'm budget 😂

[lucid thorn]

Turn max lighting down to cinematic maybe haha

[lucid thorn]

In game

[sick monolith]

weak i mean ryzen 2000 probably

[lucid thorn]

Oo

[lucid thorn]

Like lighting setting in game

[regal tundra]

can't see reshade settings menu. Am i being stupid

[lucid thorn]

Nah windows deleted it probably

Ask windows for it back

[lavish pumice]

Sorry quick photos with the phone

[sick monolith]

download the addon in the pins

[jade flame]

Turning in-game lighting quality from Max to Cinematic fixed that for me.

[regal tundra]

I did and put it in this folder correct?

[lavish pumice]

Does this look ok? Or this is entirely personal preference or setting?

[sick monolith]

i donn see the addon file here

[lucid thorn]

Same

[lavish pumice]

Anything under quality looks dog poo to my eyes

[regal tundra]

How to get around the virus detection?

[lavish pumice]

Allow within defender

In protection history

[lavish pumice]

So if i turn down to cinematic it turns off dlss ray restructuring

[viscid wedge]

We have to make sacrifices when games run like ass, unfortunately.

[ruby tusk]

Yes max lighting is its own thing

[regal tundra]

Looks good? thanks everyone bunch of legends!

[ruby tusk]

Depends if it looks good to you

[lavish pumice]

Man i miss the days when i ff 7 into my ps1 and clicked the start menu. Nowadays we buy a game and tinker with the setting for two weeks

What a time to be alive

[ruby tusk]

We can’t see your monitor

[novel kayak]

Why does RDXC keep telling me its due for an update every time I open it even though I have installed the update like 5 times? lol

[regal tundra]

You guys on QD-OLED if so what HDR mode you using

[golden scaffold]

You can still be that guy and enjoy the game on base ps5 at 720p blurry 45 fps like my console friends do, nobody complains

[ruby tusk]

This is niche stuff, most people just bought this game and played it, they don’t realize and/or care about how shitty vanilla looks

[lavish pumice]

True

[lucid thorn]

I'm on true black

[tall maple]

I'm surely an idiot but where is the latest version thnx 🙂

[ancient island]

Check pinned messages.

[ruby tusk]

I told someone about RenoDX the other day cause he was saying he had the secret sauce for graphics and I said Reshade n RenoDX is the real secret sauce and bro said “Eww Reshade”

[hasty onyx]

Tb400

[ruby tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-don't-know-vs-people-who-know-those-who-don't-know-vs-those-who-know-gif-18075947697117816471

[viscid wedge]

Because RDXC is dead. The "update" is actually renamed entirely. If you ran that "update", check your recently installed apps in Windows > Apps and organize by install date. You'll have to manually remove the old app.

[lucid thorn]

I'm normally someone who hates 60fps but the games fun enough I don't care, I set a 60fps cap with frame gen like a mad man and I'm just messing around on controller. Game is fun

[ruby tusk]

Nah the game is definitely fun

But can’t deny it looks like shit sometimes

[tall maple]

Where are the pinned messages loll

[ancient island]

Yeah, the story is shit but the gameplay is fun

[karmic quest]

True black 400

[lucid thorn]

Oh absolutely it has moments it looks insane and moments it looks like trash but this is easily one of my top games

[ancient island]

#1469072401450012774 message

[ruby tusk]

Yeah I’m really enjoying it and we’re blessed to have the RenoDX guys fixing some of it

[tall maple]

I do not have thatr icon on mine. Im on the web version

[viscid wedge]

so am I

[tall maple]

I only have the bell and the member icon no pinned icon

[viscid wedge]

If you're still in the split view,

[lucid thorn]

Absolutely. I've been using the lights mod with the auto exposure changes (I don't know if I'm supposed to? I'm not using RR aha) but games a vibe and the work these guys doing are doing is crazy

[tall maple]

That did it thnx! 🙂

[lavish pumice]

I might be an idiot but this top is DLAA and botom is Quality and I feel like its a lot of difference when looking at the big picture but then that is not playable

[novel kayak]

gotcha, I see it now. Anyway, it seems like the new app is installing older version of RenoDX for crimson desert atleast.. so feels like this tool is kinda pointless lol

[lucid thorn]

What's your question aha

[lavish pumice]

no queswtion just a statement

[tall maple]

So you need to disable deph and effects on the first run and then re-run and Im good ? thnx 🙂

[viscid wedge]

The app in general isn't going to work unless the RenoDX builds are in their normal places. This game hasn't even been out a week. All the dev work is pre-release and shared here. Its not "done"

[regal tundra]

Anyone want to share their settings ?

[viscid wedge]

many of those you don't want someone elses settings

[lavish pumice]

mine here, but the lads here said it really is special to you

[hasty onyx]

Bro put sharpening and CA to max lol

[viscid wedge]

yeah I mean, when you do it like that. I just don't play with both settings on the screen at the same time and lean back in my chair and think it looks pretty great. Plus I get the benefit of lighting that works with RR.

[analog root]

I would start with reset all and tweak contrast and saturation only

[sick monolith]

im not sure if you are crazy

[analog root]

Depending on your game settings turning auto exposure on or off

[ancient island]

I don't know at 4k, but at 1440p even DLSS Q looks bad.

[viscid wedge]

Just please for all our sanity, fix CA.

[lucid thorn]

I don't even see a difference with that slider am I losing it

[viscid wedge]

hit the reset all button, should default to 0

[ancient island]

The fix is putting it to 0

[ruby tusk]

Yes

[lucid thorn]

🙁

[ruby tusk]

There is a big difference with and without Ca

[ivory sandal]

DLDSR 2.25x to do 4K -> performance mode. Looks good

[lucid thorn]

Maybe it's not working for me

[ruby tusk]

Gotta know where to look

[viscid wedge]

me yesterday wondering why my auto exposure wasn't working. I don't know if you saw but it turns out i just had the completely wrong Reno installed.. not sure how that happened

[analog root]

Anyone having this issue?

[lucid thorn]

Yeah! I said you did 😂

[ruby tusk]

Left has CA

[naive terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-monkey-worried-monkey-gif-5992280527583416561

[viscid wedge]

lol. tonight when i'm home i'm just nuking it and reshade and starting from scratch with the latest stuff

[lavish pumice]

btw you guys think they will implement coop in the future?

[viscid wedge]

no

[lament nymph]

my game just hard crash for the 1st time

[lucid thorn]

You're gonna hate me for asking but where am I looking haha

[lucid thorn]

They said they might

[viscid wedge]

wait really? oh, news to me. thats a big change

[lucid thorn]

Prior to game coming out, it came up in an investors meeting

[karmic quest]

Makes no sense for coop in this game ngl

[lavish pumice]

yes i read the news just today i think

[lucid thorn]

CEO Heo of Pearl Abyss stated, "We are planning to roll out additional content for Crimson Desert, such as DLC and multiplayer features, depending on market demand."

[viscid wedge]

I just want them to focus on what we have for now, and maybe for the first year lol

[ruby tusk]

Look at the pillars for example

[karmic quest]

Yeah they have to fix whats broken now before focusing on smth else

[lavish pumice]

i personally hated these souls like game likie elder ring and such, and after the first boss i almost quit the game for good, thank god i didnt, now im fully immersed, very good game

[viscid wedge]

yeah i'm not into those games where the whole thing is designed around learning boss fights. I don't wanna do that, I just wanna explore

[lucid thorn]

I'll have to look at this on my pc

[lament nymph]

good thing there's no learning in this game, all you have to make sure is to have enough food

no learning required

[lucid thorn]

Untrue

You have to learn recipes, or improvise them, but then you're learning

[viscid wedge]

yep, i'm finding it very hard to die if you have enough food

surprising that there is no cooldown on that, tbh

[lucid thorn]

I died like 4 times to a boss last night who beat my ass 🙁

[ruby tusk]

See how these objects have almost like a red shadow/outline, that's chromatic abb

[golden scaffold]

You guys were not kidding, the nights are very dark now. But the lantern change makes it beautiful (I think that's the mod?) also sun and moon look 👌

[lucid thorn]

There is I think it's just real quick

[lament nymph]

they designed this game to give you a moveset of a drunkard, good enough for mobs, not enough for bosses to make sure you eat your fill

[narrow frost]

I find it hilarious that you can just eat, while getting juggled by a boss lmao.

[lament nymph]

it's their gamedesign

[karmic quest]

Tower shield does wonders for boss fights haha

[lucid thorn]

Oh my god I might be immune

[lament nymph]

in a strictly boss design scheme, this is horrible but then they gave you unlimited heals in the 1st place

I kind of get it

[ruby tusk]

Haha yeah everyones eyes are different

[karmic quest]

I wanted to make heavy ish feeling knight with a shield and this game actually makes my character feel heavy

[viscid wedge]

my trick is to just avoid the main story and upgrade your gear by doing other stuff so you're just overleveled. Now someone is going to tell me you can't do that but in my mind it works!

[vivid iris]

the chromatic aberration isn't super strong in this, but it messes up hues kinda bad in some circumstances

[ruby tusk]

our eyes have their own sort of chromatic abberation but it's not like video games

[lucid thorn]

Full disclosure but I'm red green colourblind I legit don't see a difference

[viscid wedge]

I just really love the great swords though.

[lucid thorn]

I think my eye problems are a good thing 😂

[lament nymph]

I realized that only 0.5% ppl have beaten chapter 8

[karmic quest]

I keep greatswords for AoE and tower/shield for bosses

[lament nymph]

I'm like 1 in 200 ppl

[ruby tusk]

Hahah yeah it's all good

[karmic quest]

Everyone busy making their game look good 🤣

[lucid thorn]

When I was in elementary school I failed coloring a rainbow and my teacher just assumed I was dumb. We didn't realize I had the red green thing until I was damn near highschool. 😂

[ruby tusk]

Damn lol

[narrow frost]

Majority is probably still in chapter 1-4 lol (I'm still in Chapter 2 after 49 hours).

[lucid thorn]

Well thank you for walking me thru that as best as you can

[viscid wedge]

damn and I thought just opening chapter 3 after 35 hours was taking it slow lol

[lament nymph]

... I mean I'm supposed to be doing a puzzle but I can't see shit

[narrow frost]

Getting that money worth lmao 😄

[lucid thorn]

Squint harder

[lavish pumice]

yeah okay now I set renoDX correctly and just WOW as I travle around

[karmic quest]

You dont need it, go do something else

[lucid thorn]

That's the spirit come back at day time

[lavish pumice]

thank you every one of you who was patient enough to guide me trough everything, im apreciate you all!

[lucid thorn]

I didn't do anything but I'm glad it works for you

[karmic quest]

Yeah go chase ghosts or something

[lucid thorn]

I think that's just the raytracing

[karmic quest]

I know a place that spews black magic balls at you

And they are black ghosts

So you at night would never see them

[lucid thorn]

All fun and games until you find a plant that fucks you up

[kindred shoal]

the absolute state of achievement completion percentages lol

[karmic quest]

Dont.. mention it.. I thought I can fight a plant until I realised I can't

[kindred shoal]

it appears no one has more than 3 on steam

[lucid thorn]

I saw on steam discussions around launch that 100% achievements are probably 200-300 hours

Because the achievements are all completion related

[viscid wedge]

my first encounter with one of those was on that plateau just east of the starter town. There is an Abyss Cresset up there.

[lavish pumice]

wow now night is a night also

[lucid thorn]

I don't remember where I was but I also got rocked

[narrow frost]

Yeah cause most of the achievements are "Do all of X" 😄
I'm still in Hernand lol.

[lucid thorn]

Same!

[viscid wedge]

I just looked at a 3rd party map and man, the rest of the map is huge. Lot of this game ahead, not trying to rush it!

[karmic quest]

Terrible achievement system

Not worth

[narrow frost]

lmao

[lament nymph]

basically you guys have achieved nothing

[lucid thorn]

You have like 10 more hours than me that's impressive

[karmic quest]

They literally did not even try to make the achievements special

Just some bullshit slapped

[lucid thorn]

Tbf completing anything in this game is special and a literal achievement

[karmic quest]

@lucid thorn true lol

Wish the devs tried to make the achievements more special

[lucid thorn]

They took the word literally that's all

[viscid wedge]

I haven't and probably never will look at the steam achievements

[kindred shoal]

Hernand is legit bigger than most games lol

[golden scaffold]

adapation fix with lantern mod, all tonemapping 50

adaptive contrast 40 / 50 / vanilla ACES

with the lantern mod (which makes it now necessary but it looks very good and natural)

I also adjusted flame hue to a more desaturated yellow, which for my taste is more realistic

@faint bobcat I like it a lot, just gotta use the lantern. with these additions it's incredible. But default sliders contrast 60 and adaptive contrast 50 make it too dark (why is default contrast 60 anyway?)

[lament nymph]

there are only 2 countries that have all the cool stuffs

the rest are just cutscene and something

[shut badge]

anyone know of a save editor that lets you edit completed quests

[lucid thorn]

Is aces the cool one

[lament nymph]

the best thing about this game is that there's literally a zoo

[flint moss]

Yeah patience is key, dpnt want to burn out

[lament nymph]

which is fun to go look at

[golden scaffold]

aces is the deep fried bright one

[flint moss]

Easier said than done tho ngl

[lucid thorn]

Ah

[golden scaffold]

Ike if you want HDR realism this is the best you can get imho. With lantern it's totally playable imho

But I really needed adaptive contrast at 40

[lofty quartz]

Where's the lantern mod at? Searching "lantern" on Nexus yields nada

[lavish pumice]

i need to look into this because my night just became pitch black while the daytimes are beautiful

[golden scaffold]

Check pins

It's "lettherebemorelight" mod

[lucid thorn]

Good name too

[lament nymph]

if you want true realism hdr10

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/46

[golden scaffold]

Specifically says for use with autoadapation 🫡

[lament nymph]

[karmic quest]

@golden scaffold which one of the settings you showed is the best tho?

[viscid wedge]

Play with these.

[golden scaffold]

First let me make a screen or it

[karmic quest]

Bro has em off

[lofty quartz]

does the candlelight version work well or get the original

[karmic quest]

Thank you very much

[viscid wedge]

not my screenshot, just scrolled up to someone elses.

[lavish pumice]

if i turn the first one off my nmight becomes day 😄

[crude marsh]

that is the vanilla way

[viscid wedge]

yeah, vanilla

[vivid iris]

default is 50 now, if you kept it on 60 you'd deep fry it yeah

[ruby tusk]

ACES is the one that makes fire have pink lighting

[thorn grove]

candletest or LetThereBeMoreLight the go to rn?

[lavish pumice]

i mean if i hold up the lantern i can see forward which is happy days, looks pretty damn how it would look in real life to be honest and i like thjat

[crude marsh]

I think the candle one is fine, but I will work on it some more today

I just need to figure out what all of the the keywords align to in the real game....

and test them one by one

[lavish pumice]

your lantern mod increases its light when its down or also when its held up?

[crude marsh]

rn its both

someone identified which lights were the lantern, so I can change those individually now too

[karmic quest]

Your monitor actually has 1800 peak nit brightness or you increased the brightness to lift night colors, wouldn't days now become like a flashbang?

[golden scaffold]

It's actually 2200 and yeah I like to keep it everything a little lower because it's a very bright TV there's no need to push it to the limits

[lavish pumice]

that would be awesome, because the default held up state (to me atleast) is completely fine, but the down state if where i would like some more light

this is my night

[viscid wedge]

looks like night time with no lights around to me!

[karmic quest]

Same

[lavish pumice]

yeah, i said above i like it the way it is, just some tiny bit more light from lantern (when its on hip) and same light amount when i hold it up and perfect

let me walk to camp see there

[covert wave]

howdy all, what did I do wrong if the "RenoDX" tab doesn't show up?

[golden scaffold]

One thing this eyeadaption fix will cause tho, if you were framegening on low fps (40ish) it's a lot of VRR flicker in the dark, so I had to switch framegen off

[lavish pumice]

Yeah honestly, I am genuinely happy with this outcome, wow

[lament nymph]

windows defender deleted it

[golden scaffold]

You used my settings?

[covert wave]

@lament nymph weird, didn't even give me a notification

[lavish pumice]

no mine here

[viscid wedge]

did you install the LetThereBeMoreLight patch? might be nice

[lavish pumice]

not yet, because i only need more light when the lantern is on hip but not when i hold it up, but lemme try

[low crane]

@crude marsh Does your light fix work with the vanilla game auto exposure?

[flint moss]

Here I've been contemplating getting the G6, but does seem a bit too much

[mortal wolf]

uh, i don't recommend adaptive contrast

[golden scaffold]

It's nice to have the headroom. I hate the oled ABL so much. I got the brightest oled I could not enjoy the peak nits but to get more safe headroom for ABL

[lavish pumice]

Ok can you guys tell me how to install this please?

[golden scaffold]

Reducing it to 40? Why not? It's too crushed for me at 50

[lavish pumice]

overwrite the folder?

yeah got it

[teal steeple]

Backup first

[covert wave]

how do I make windows defender not delete things without telling me?

[mortal wolf]

use the regular contrast if anything

[flint moss]

Yeah I don't seem to notice the ABL as much on my c9 (peak 800) compared to my monitor. Probably a placebi thing

[golden scaffold]

40 vs 50

[true dagger]

either windows defender or maybe placed in the wrong place, addon goes next to .exe (Crimson Desert/bin64)

[mortal wolf]

the problem is really autoexposure, not contrast. the whole thing has to be lifted

[golden scaffold]

hmm but adaptation contrast specificaly says "primarily to shaded regions" which is exactly the problem with shadow crushing, the other slider changes overall contrast in midtones which i dont want?

[mortal wolf]

idk, not true, just jon guessing

[golden scaffold]

it just looks like whathever this adaptation contrast is doing to shadows it's too agressive, increasing shadows sliders washes out the midtones earlier than reducing adapation.. to my eyes

[lavish pumice]

@crude marsh this is your mod, looks even better now !

[manic finch]

where is the latern mod? included in the let there be lights one?

gonna try it out later today

[covert wave]

@true dagger i put RenoDX in the bin64 folder and it opened up correctly so idk what went wrong, I installed reshade but didn't touch any of the install boxes

[lavish pumice]

here you find it

@manic finch ^

[crude marsh]

I imagine it would make vanilla more blown out

[kindred shoal]

is this the newest version? mine doesnt have those options I guess I need to update

[manic finch]

oh so it is still the same mod, was making sure it wasn't different

was it updated from the other night?

[hollow kiln]

god damn! I can look at a cliff in the daytime and the whole scene doesn't darken for no damn reason

[manic finch]

felt like lantern was still pretty dim for the new autoexposure

[true dagger]

you did install Reshade addon version right? not the regular one

[covert wave]

@true dagger yes, was there a specific option during the reshad install I needed?

[true dagger]

no you don’t rly need any of them

try to just redownload the addon file and put it there

maybe windows defender got rid of it without showing anything

[covert wave]

ok, let me see ty

[lavish pumice]

i dont understand why game devs dont do this by default though?

is it hard?

or is there something against it? I mean the game looks better whats the point of not doing this?

[covert wave]

@true dagger yeah still not in there, i'll try a RenoDX reinstall too but i'm lost

[fallen knoll]

add a windows security exception to the bin64 folder

[barren pasture]

you mean what?

[lucid thorn]

I found a helmet where when you lift the face piece kliff loses his facial hair haha

[lament nymph]

you get a barber later

[lucid thorn]

Ye but this is a helmet that removes it

For some reason

[covert wave]

doing that now ty

[vivid iris]

wait why? I feel like that slider works so well

[golden scaffold]

@crude marsh any chance you could make an alternative version where lantern is not as bright when held? Or is it tied to one setting? It looks ok when I have it on my pouch, but when held in hands it's a flashbang

[mortal wolf]

it was before i did naka rushon. it's naka rushton contrast only, meant more for usage with n2

since v11 is split between n2 and nr

should mostly be the same as tuning the in/out of NR

[vivid iris]

hmmmm. It has an extremely pleasing look when adjusted imo.

[mortal wolf]

it's NR without the peak, i think

[covert wave]

all set, thank you everyone!

[golden scaffold]

It's mostly an issue when stuff gets up close. It's just how light works ig 🤷‍♂️

Maybe just a tiny bit too bright for a lantern (behaves more like an electric lamp)

[vivid iris]

I think I'll keep it in as a happy accident, though I may just remove the tooltip

[digital elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/look-cant-see-cannot-brYjDJ2FUjn1KL3Pzw

[hardy owl]

What am I watching here?

[crude marsh]

you can try the version from @rough granite

search for posts from them

[golden scaffold]

Me complaining about lantern being too brigt when held in hands 😶

[crude marsh]

well a ton of their lights are labeled LEDs so

[severe sphinx]

why is night so dark

[tame vault]

I would agree that lantern needs slightly toning down if possible

[crude marsh]

see above and lmk if you like it

[tame vault]

Because the sun is the other side of the planet

[zenith belfry]

the dark nights are like one of the coolest features

[mortal wolf]

it works because we have no real moving adaption target (we just use 0.18 and trust the input is "right"), so using it with NR numbers moves the curve around

[severe sphinx]

no but i literally cant see anything

it was fine a few days ago

[crude marsh]

autoexposure option in reno

[hardy owl]

I actually think the lanterns look great when combined with the dark night mod. If you reduce the lantern light then you don't see shit

[novel kayak]

My nights were kinda bright in the last Reno but on the latest one my nights are dark as hell again

[golden scaffold]

Try reducing contrast, I really like how it looks with adaptation contrast 40

[crude marsh]

autoexposure option in reno is the source of it, theres also a brighter lights mod i posted, TLDR is its a work in progress to fix the exposure

[karmic quest]

What did he change?

[tame vault]

It's tricky. Outdoors yes, but when you raise it to somebody's face to speak to them it's....a lot

[crude marsh]

reduced player lantern

[golden scaffold]

@novel kayak @hardy owl would this work better for you? Default 50 is too dark for me too

[mortal wolf]

that's because the boss who decides how the game is going to be shipped gets an office like this. dark nights wouldn't survive that meeting

[hardy owl]

Lol that's true

[karmic quest]

.

[novel kayak]

Is that the auto exposure setting

[karmic quest]

This one? Pinged it

[karmic void]

cold af

[golden scaffold]

I have everything on just reduced adaptation contrast to 40 and adjusted flame colors

[hardy owl]

I'll try tomorrow 40 and see how it looks.

[mortal wolf]

this is the real life bethesda office. why starfield is jacked up to hell

[karmic quest]

I just simply search these in reshade I guess?

[outer furnace]

lmao realest rap

[karmic quest]

How can people think in their bright ass offices

[golden scaffold]

#1469072401450012774 message

Reduced lantern mod link

[karmic quest]

Ah thats the one

I thought it was the one I linked

[golden scaffold]

Wait

He says it's much brighter?

Its supposed to be less?

[crude marsh]

read the word in front of much brighter

[golden scaffold]

Oh I can't read

Im actually illiterate

[pliant dagger]

Do i understand something wrong? I use a LG 27gx790a. The max nits should be around 1300. I don´t see a difference from 600 on. In game and in the win11 calibration software.

[lavish pumice]

guys if i stream with HDR on what happens?

[karmic quest]

Peak does not mean it will be constantly at that nit brightness

[lavish pumice]

im not a big streamer, just stream to my brother he likes to watch

[viscid wedge]

I would shoot for more like 800.

[golden scaffold]

Use liliums HDR analyzer

[pliant dagger]

yeah. I now 😄

[pliant dagger]

Thanks! 🙂

[karmic quest]

Can you check mine aw2725d? Rtings turned premium I think, dont see charts no more 😭

Nvm I think they only had aw2725df

[viscid wedge]

ok i was going to ask if that was different

[outer furnace]

and LG G5 65 inch pls

[golden scaffold]

it's perfect now, thx @rough granite @crude marsh ❤️

[golden scaffold]

you can set peaks to 2000 and leave game brightness at 203 without worry

[karmic quest]

Yeah, both are 3rd gen qd oleds, but mine is 280hz vs 360hz and DF model has better calibration for srgb and some other small features

[viscid wedge]

They tested the 77". Right is Game Mode (both HDR)

[karmic quest]

How does aw2725df look at those charts tho

[vivid iris]

Calibrate to whatever your clip point is

[kindred shoal]

with reno installed nights still are extremly bright for me

[golden scaffold]

while it can technically reach 2400 it's sustained windows in game mode are 2000, it's why I always like to slightly undertune these bright oleds

[kindred shoal]

the moon is blazing like the sun lol

[vivid iris]

If you aren’t able to set peak as high as you expect then you probably need to change HDR modes on your monitor

[golden scaffold]

do you have the moon fix on

[crude marsh]

I had Opus review the renderpasses and well

you know it means business

The pipeline structure itself looks sound for a deferred renderer with late upscale. No smoking gun for a quality degradation from ordering alone

[hasty onyx]

Anyone got a example of there reno hdr settings? Mine dont look right

[kindred shoal]

i have the reno file and lettherebelight from the pinned comments

[outer furnace]

alright so the reddit people were right with what they told me, ty

[crude marsh]

No smoking gun smh

[karmic quest]

Tysm

[karmic quest]

What does sustained windows % mean

[golden scaffold]

longer than a few seconds

basically it's unnacurate above 2000 in game mode for anything that lasts longer than a moment

[ruby tusk]

G85SB

[kindred shoal]

this is what i have in game

[golden scaffold]

update the mod 📌

[viscid wedge]

so long it doesn't even fit on my vertical screen. had to cut in two.

[ruby tusk]

Lmao

[karmic quest]

S85F

[kindred shoal]

it should be the file int he pin right? let me redownload and try again reistalling it etc

[viscid wedge]

right is game mode

[ruby tusk]

Yeah mine doesn’t get very bright

But I game in dark room anyway

[viscid wedge]

its all relative

[ruby tusk]

Yeah

[eager epoch]

For me specular AA just degrades the metallic armor quality outdoors

[golden scaffold]

it significantly reduces the highlights, why would I do that? adaptation contrast only reduces the shadow crush. it really is the better option?

did my msg just get deleted

[karmic quest]

Which one

[rough granite]

you have to install prod80 shaders

[karmic quest]

Im gonnna try your settings tho thank you.

[viscid wedge]

i wouldn't stress. i'm sure a bright sun still make you squint. I remember way back in 2023 or so when I got my C2 and tried HDR for the first time (probably horribly calibrated, if at all), I walked up the stairs in Hogwarts Legacy and the sun was coming through these big windows. I had to squint exactly like I would have in real life and it was at that point it clicked for me. I was hooked.

[mortal wolf]

that's how contrast is supposed to work, and why there's a highlight slider

[karmic quest]

Ah, I'll try them too

Ty

[karmic quest]

You made me buy a 7.5m long 8k hdmi cable so I can play crimson on my oled tv instead

[rough granite]

yeah try the same settings I did if you struggle with too dark at night with Reno auto exposure, the compensation is just enough

[viscid wedge]

na, just remove it from where it is and plop it on your desk. this is the way

[karmic quest]

You run the fix lightning also right

[golden scaffold]

so you're saying reduce contrast increase highlights slider don't touch adaptive is better?

[karmic quest]

Its 65"

[mortal wolf]

adaptation contrast as being used, isn't really meant for that. it shouldn't even be there...

[viscid wedge]

Did I stutter 😉

[karmic quest]

You did not

Ahem

[tall maple]

This is a game changer, so beautiful! I play the game in Dolby Vision mode in Windows 11 as my LG G5 supports it. This combined with the mod is just a match in heaven. Here's a few pics. I play in 4K DLSS 4.5 Quality with all settings maxed out with RR. That is on a 4090/7950X/32GB

[golden scaffold]

i do notice i lose a lot more saturation when reducing adaption contrast but i can get close messing with contrast+highlights

[kindred shoal]

still not getting the moon option

[ruby tusk]

4.5 and RR don’t go together

Just FYI

[lofty quartz]

hope it's a fiber hdmi 2.1 cable

[karmic quest]

Am I tweaking or your RT and RR is working better at handling reflections than me at 1440P dlss 4.0 quality..

[ruby tusk]

RR uses 4.0

[golden scaffold]

and you just updated with the newest version from the pins? but it should be there

[kindred shoal]

yea

[golden scaffold]

what does it say on the bottom

[tall maple]

Ok well, whatever version it uses then ;P

[ruby tusk]

Yeah just letting you know there’s isn’t a 4.5 RR

[viscid wedge]

You're ok with the performance with DLSS Quality at 4K with a 4090? (also have one here). Also yeah RR uses 4.0, regardless of what you pick. Also the game doesn't support Dolby Vision (frankly DV and HDR10+ are pointless for games anyway).

[ruby tusk]

Even if the game shows it as a setting

[kindred shoal]

mine says 23rd

[golden scaffold]

so you didn't update

[dapper lake]

i could swear its working in CD somehow lmao, i can usually tell the difference between 4.0 and 4.5

[kindred shoal]

i mena i just downloaded it lol

[golden scaffold]

[ruby tusk]

There’s a difference without RR on but not with

[kindred shoal]

im so confused lol

[eager epoch]

For me the most impactful fix was setting custom 99% for RR via NVPI, boiling gone, image clean and it actually runs better… Previously had to toggle DLAA and back to Quality for this but with 99% its permanent. Not a placebo btw, tested this rigorously. There is something wrong with how the devs set up the rendering pipeline and that method help alot at-least for me.

[golden scaffold]

did you replace the file in your game folder..?

[kindred shoal]

yea

[tall maple]

It defaults to dolby vision container or maybe it's the HDR but when I put on the info tv display it shows as Dolby Vision and my performance on Quality is around 70-90 average. Never got below 60.

[dapper lake]

wasnt the missing rain a 4.0 thing? i never had that and ive been using RR and 4.5 since launch

[golden scaffold]

but it's still loading the old one... well.. delete it and download again try again

[karmic quest]

Could you share settings please

[ruby tusk]

It was an RR thing afaik but not 100% sure

[kindred shoal]

Ok i just refreshed at he top ofreno and it prompted me to update renodx and rlimiter

[mortal wolf]

it's technically one slider, that we try to split into two ```cpp
output_color = renodx::tonemap::psycho::psychotm_test11(
untonemapped_bt709, // bt709_input
calculated_peak,
RENODX_TONE_MAP_EXPOSURE,
RENODX_TONE_MAP_HIGHLIGHTS,
RENODX_TONE_MAP_SHADOWS,
RENODX_TONE_MAP_CONTRAST / RENODX_TONE_MAP_SATURATION, // Offset what Naka Rushton will do to contrast
1.0, // Macleod Boytnon-Purity (old saturation)
1.f - RENODX_TONE_MAP_BLOWOUT,
100.f,
RENODX_TONE_MAP_HUE_RESTORE, // hue_restore
RENODX_TONE_MAP_ADAPTATION_CONTRAST, // adaptation_contrast (unbounded Naka Rushton)
1, // 0 = Neutwo, 1 = Naka Rushton
RENODX_TONE_MAP_SATURATION // cone_response_exponent (bounded Naka Rushton)
);

cone contrast is what your eyes do (Naka Rushton), and adaptation contrast also Naka Rushton, but a prestep meant to be paired with Neutwo.  so why i say it's not meant to be used together

[tall maple]

Could be and the image ingame is a bit sharper as the screenshots have a tendency to soften the image. Maybe it's compression.

[dapper lake]

id heard reports sayign either RR or 4.0, but i never encountered it. Its whats got me thinking their horrible dlss implementation has somehow got them to work together

[mortal wolf]

Naka Rushton is the magic one shot function that does what your else do (why contrast+saturation should be equal)

[golden scaffold]

unbounded Naka Rushton huh

you sure you guys aren't making these up?

[kindred shoal]

still updated the 23rd

[ruby tusk]

Yeah I mean who knows with this game lol

[kindred shoal]

im gonna just go through a reinstall process lol

[golden scaffold]

could have also been your antivirus stealth deleting the new one

[dapper lake]

genuinely, atp i just need them to fix the tesselation with RR and the black bars with dlaa and ill be happy

[mortal wolf]

a lot of fish died for this math

[dapper lake]

i switch to DLAA every chance i get before i cant bare it anymore

[crude marsh]

DLAA is usually so pointless and then there is CD

[kindred shoal]

yea let me wrok through it

[dapper lake]

Actually

RE9

[kindred shoal]

thanks though at least I know what to troubleshoot now

[ruby tusk]

I hate it

[dapper lake]

DLAA solved boiling completely for me

[hollow kiln]

Ah yes. Implement RT but then don't use its primary feature at all. Makes perfect sense.

[eager epoch]

I play maxed out on a 1440p, those settings are for crimson profile only as setting it in global wont work for some reason.. so keep global at default

[lyric aurora]

Hi dude can you tell me the settings you put in reno ? i find the night quite dark with 60 contrast also do you dl the more candle light + same lantern intensity mod ?

[ruby tusk]

Why these devs did upscaling the way they did I will never know

[lavish pumice]

they added the I J K M shortcuts, I wonder if they ever do it so that when we are in K menu and we push M it changed to map without having to close the first

[crude marsh]

DLAA didnt do anything to the boiling iirc not that I can run it at this res, but you can just turn off ibl sampling to fix textures and interior boiling in RC or increase output scaling for dlss via optiscaler or both

[lavish pumice]

how do you get this analyser?

[karmic quest]

Thanks alot, read that CD devs locked dlss q to 69%

[forest elk]

am I blind or is there no pinned comments in here? can someone tell the optimal settings right now? I put exposure to 1.25 from what I saw from the net but I dont remember where, I have G80SD if it matters

[golden scaffold]

ok so you can just try leaving sliders at 50 (should be the new defaults)

but instead of messing with adaptive contrast try reducing contrast + increasing highlights to offset the loss, something like 40/55 should be close (use hdr analyzer during day to fine tune)

[eager epoch]

Than when I switch back to DLSS Q it doesn’t boil anymore till next restart

[pliant dagger]

liliums HDR analyze

[eager epoch]

Ignore the 75% there I’m just testing

[dapper lake]

Sadly wasnt the case for me - unless i ran DLAA it was there every time

[crude marsh]

just defaults with latest pinned and you might want to turn off autoexposure fix cause its quite dark, but up to you, some folks turn it on and off rn

[karmic quest]

Yeah but I actually want the sharper cleaner image

[dapper lake]

which was an issue for my VRAM in racoon city ngl

[karmic quest]

For some reason with rr on the game feels washed

[dapper lake]

i dropped to 1080p.. it didnt look as bad as usual for a 1440p monitor

[forest elk]

I cant see the pinned comment, can you please reply it for me so I can see?

[mortal wolf]

The generation and spread of S-potentials in fish (Cyprinidae)
K I Naka, W A H Rushton
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1365565/

We used to call it fishmap

[ruby tusk]

Everyone is diff, but personally I'd rather have game be too dark and I adjust a few things than to be flashbanged after I exit every single interior

[plain fractal]

I got a black image the last time I tried to set a custom scaling ratio, is this fixed now? Or maybe it was caused by also overriding the preset letter

[eager epoch]

It might be a placebo but I think the 75% there gave me the best image quality (im on 1440p)

[karmic quest]

Im also 1440p

So might try your settings

[tall maple]

I will try these settings in 4K see how that goes 🙂

[forest elk]

thank you so much, turns out I had to click the forum title once more haha, sorry for my stupidness, I got it now

[eager epoch]

If you set RR to 100% (DLAA) it will result in black screen, thats why its 99%

[karmic quest]

So 99% sets to dlss?

Interesting

There was a reddit post where someone talked that the dlss implementation is broken

[crude marsh]

I tried finding any particular major issue in the render passes in the files with where dlss is placed but didn't see anything

[kindred shoal]

@golden scaffold i got it. I was hitting install renodx from the reno app

and it was overwriting it

just had to striaght up drag and drop

[fresh smelt]

are there any mods worth having other than reno and lazorrs?

[golden scaffold]

yeah can't beat good old do it by hand

[eager epoch]

Yes there is an explanation to this but its too long to post here 😄

[kindred shoal]

lol yea

[golden scaffold]

camera mod

[rough granite]

yes

[karmic quest]

Which one? They're multiplying by the day

[crude marsh]

for wip mods just use what is available in discord

[lyric acorn]

is it normal that my player shadows have black boxes flickering ?

[golden scaffold]

CDCamera v1.52 - Camera & FoV Mod for Crimson Desert

[crude marsh]

IIRC that happens with a particular reno setting if your graphics settings are too low, but I forget

[forest elk]

is it really worth it?

[golden scaffold]

it has many options. why not give it a try?

you can also only disable the camera jank during combat but i wanted closer camera

[forest elk]

I also downloaded Disable HUD mod for OLED safety but it turns out it is not worth it because I really need the map lol

[plain fractal]

Oh ok thanks!!!

[hasty onyx]

anyone else hdr look so dark compare to sdr?

[forest elk]

wish we could lower the brightness more

[crude marsh]

@vivid iris yall should probably pin a version with "safe" defaults

[golden scaffold]

actually I would like something like making hud even darker or an autodimmer, with new darker nights the hud is still too bright. does the mod have a keybind toggle or something? probably not

[hasty onyx]

the defult looks blurry and dark no?

[crude marsh]

if you are trying to capture HDR screenshots then you need to use reshade

[karmic quest]

Bruh I've taken so many screenshots of things I need to put in my game and I bet by tomorrow I'll be going through the discord trying to find it again. 😭

[crude marsh]

its darker cause autoexposure

[tawny ravine]

I mean if you have a newish oled panel you don't really have to worry much if at all about burn in. That is if you have a pixel refresh running daily and all of that oled care stuff

[forest elk]

yes it just toggles it, I set it to F10, just on and off

[vivid iris]

We’re gonna change that yeah. I haven’t pushed the latest build to snapshots for that reason

[shut badge]

I wish nvidia could merge ray reconstruction with normal dlss 😭

[plain fractal]

Is this lighting correct? Or is there something wrong with my config? First one is with Fixed auto exposure, second one is with default auto exposure.

[crude marsh]

well, RR does run its own SR pass

[golden scaffold]

thats good enough i'll get it

[viscid wedge]

i'll give it a shot. I'm only getting 90-100 on Performance

[shut badge]

ray reconstruction has its own upscaling that is vastly inferior, I wish they could teach the normal dlss ai how to fix noisy ray tracing

which it somewhat does but not enough

[karmic quest]

Doesnt your monitor have automatic panel care and pixel shift?

[crude marsh]

its.... not that simple

[golden scaffold]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/154 oh god I needed this. fuck that vanilla font

[dire pilot]

I second neocodex - you don't have to worry about burn in if you have pixel refresh running every night

[shut badge]

ik im talking straight out my ass

[forest elk]

yes, but I'm kinda babying it since it is so expensive in my country unfortunately

[golden scaffold]

i'm not so much concerned about oled safty because hud is not that bright but it's still a little too bright for our new darker nights

[karmic quest]

Dw, its not as bad as it was.

Optimum tech made a video on his oled

[dire pilot]

I play JRPGs with static UI and have had for the last year - my mini -led has burn in and my OLED is fine lol

[fresh smelt]

camera may be too zoomed out now

[shut badge]

I've been using my lg c1 daily for like 4 years and I left it on for hours on a static screen many times and still no issues

[golden scaffold]

a guy burned in his overwatch portrait and hp bar on a year of playing it daily (overwatch has super deep fried ITM with bright hud)

[viscid wedge]

I've been gaming on my C2 on 100pixel brightness and HDR on in Windows fulltime. I run through a few burn in test videos every 1000 hours so. 13k hours on the clock right now and still can't see any hint of retention or burn in.

[hasty onyx]

can i see your hdr mod settings rq?

[dapper lake]

how i never thought nvidia profile inspector would work when the nvidia app didnt idk bc its obvious but my god thank you

[shut badge]

I also used 100 pixel brightness all this time

do use warm 50 on your tv

[viscid wedge]

of course, do you think i'm a savage?🤣

[shut badge]

my man

[thorn grove]

why is charge so op

I just run through 15 enemies like a train

[shut badge]

I've been slowly changing my brothers lg tv settings to be slightly warmer every few weeks and he still hasnt realised it

[viscid wedge]

hahaha i love this idea

[lavish pumice]

why is it by the way that i try to record a video with my niphone of how my game looks like, and its not even close 😄

[shut badge]

I did this to myself when I first knew about warm 50 being more accurate but I thought it was wayyyyyyyy too orange because I got so used to cook lighting

[wraith sphinx]

At least a second Transformer model that incorporates the improvements of DLSS 4.5, resulting in less or no ghosting and smearing, and especially a super performance mode. Perhaps it will just take some time and they'll release something like that soon.

[viscid wedge]

i would use OBS (once configured for HDR recording)

[shut badge]

played a few weeks on warm 20, then 30, finally 50