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[lucid thorn]

Wat

[small ferry]

Thanks, that's within the Color Grading of RenoDX itself?

[karmic quest]

Mod worked after I turned off that shit

😭

[jade flame]

DLAA broken when HDR is also on.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/41LYLiLkC7M

[lucid thorn]

Yeah, there's a few. Shadows might be one part, I'm trying to remember what the other one was

[karmic quest]

Dont want to play the game anymore though, off to sleep.

[lucid thorn]

It's fucking hilarious that's timed with your slashes

You hit the guy so hard you broke your screen

[naive jackal]

@modest hatch It'll be like the 4090 where some people were taking out loans or using buy now pay later schemes

[sick monolith]

i don't have that issue. 576.88

[lucid thorn]

Take care

[jade flame]

Executions and blade flash (L1 + R1) are the most common triggers. But not the only triggers.

[lucid thorn]

It's similar to when my screen ate itself last night but that was a one off

[jade flame]

What gpu?

[ruby tusk]

$5 says hes on 40 series

[sick monolith]

5080 x 4080

[lament nymph]

I need a better looking helmet

[lucid thorn]

Like at the same time?

[ruby tusk]

I noticed 40 series doesn't seem to have the DLAA + HDR bug

but 50 series does

[sick monolith]

5080 render 4080 fg

[karmic quest]

No point in running DLAA anyways

DLSS Quality better

[lucid thorn]

How much power draw does your pc consume

[ruby tusk]

not with the way they do upscaling in this game

looks blurry

[karmic quest]

Anyone has good HDR settings for RenoDX ?

[sick monolith]

300+ watts for the render gpu when maxed
100+ watts for the fg gpu

[ruby tusk]

yeah the default settings

[faint bobcat]

nope, its ogre

[lucid thorn]

The textures or something are tied to the resolution but it uses the render resolution before upscaling doesn't it?

[faint bobcat]

neesd engine side, I can smooth out the pop in but thats it

[ruby tusk]

Yeah

[naive jackal]

@karmic quest On 4k or 4.5 maybe but it looks quite blurry to me when using 1440p dlss quality compared to what it's like in other games

[viscid wedge]

I was gonna say, for the first few hours when I was playing on DLAA I never had this issue. I couldn't handle the lighting and moved to RR.

[outer furnace]

peak brightness to your, well, displays peak brightness, paper white to what you like (250 seems good to me) rest default

[lucid thorn]

Right, so now aggressive upscaling means lower base resolution, this lower textures

[ruby tusk]

yep and looks like shit

[lucid thorn]

Haha yeah

Tech is fun

[lucid thorn]

Tell me more 👀

[viscid wedge]

Upscaling is 🐐 when done correctly.

[ruby tusk]

Facts

[lucid thorn]

I'm on a 7900xt I'm better off eating the performance hit most times 😂

[jade flame]

That is a very old driver.

[viscid wedge]

Oof

[final imp]

Dlss is so broken in this game. And dlaa gives me the black bar flicker

[naive jackal]

RE9 1440p dlss quality looked good to me, but with CD anything past an arms length starts looking mushy

[outer furnace]

when turning off upscaling entirely, will the game use shitty TAA?

since DLAA isnt an option with the glitch

[naive jackal]

Haven't tried the game with todays new driver though

[jade flame]

I find DLSS Q is the nexct best thing unfortunately since Custom Scaling doesn't work either with this game.

[sick monolith]

how come i dont have that glitcgh

[outer furnace]

didnt change anything

[small ferry]

What might cause this? Flickering inside shadows

[naive jackal]

Yeah i tried custom scaling and just got a black screen

[fresh field]

your settings/set up?

[outer furnace]

idk, you mentioned your driver so I assume you arent using the newest one, possibly because of that

[thin kelp]

cant figure why i cant run this NoHud mod from nexus on linux

[small ferry]

wasn’t happening before renodx install

[sick monolith]

yeah i stuck with it since it gave the best re9 performance

[karmic quest]

wtf? devs patched dlss 4.0 with fg having no rain? I SEE RAIN!

[naive jackal]

Wasn't the reason it was giving better Re9 performance because it couldn't render the volumteric effects?

[ruby tusk]

yes

[ruby tusk]

no rain was caused by RR

[thin kelp]

shield giving mystic knight vibes from dragons dogma

[sick monolith]

they say sometimes it vanishes still.. maybe when it's less intense

[karmic quest]

I had Rain with DLSS 4.0 and no FG, when I turned it on it disappeared.

[fresh field]

rain works with RR but it dont look good cause i think the denoiser still trying to remove it as 'noise'

but it works lol

[ruby tusk]

yeah

[karmic quest]

Dragons Dogma 2 had so much potential

devs fumbled it

[viscid wedge]

I've had RR on for probably 25 of my 30 hours, I've seen rain a few times.

[fresh field]

thats cause Dragon's Dogma wasnt named Monster Hunter

also them using RE engine for an open world game was yikes

not made for that lol

[tawny ravine]

Dont worry the DLC will save it

[naive jackal]

Capcom crippled the devs on DD2, the DD and DD2 creator left the company afterwards and founded a new studio

[viscid wedge]

at times the whole screen looks to be pixelated, its terrible

[true dagger]

oh what the fuck i have never seen this even when i was testing DLAA and i have hdr on all the time

[neon whale]

I think that there are some rumors about a potential DLC

[viscid wedge]

what GPU

[fresh field]

yes, luckily it doesnt rain much

[true dagger]

4090

[viscid wedge]

I think we're seeing a trend that this is not affecting 40 series

[ruby tusk]

Yep

[outer furnace]

nooo give wilds Grank expansion first

[sand vector]

i wonder if its worth running RR with ultra performance

[true dagger]

50 series classic

[flint moss]

I find myself thinking about this game all the time when I cant play 🫠

[ruby tusk]

yeah I'm on 4090 too with no DLAA + HDR bug

its a 50 series thing

[sick monolith]

it seems like 50 series is borked. intel is borked as well

[lucid thorn]

Me all day at work

[naive jackal]

I hated the game to begin with but it turns out the meme is actually true with this one, it gets better after X amount of hours

[karmic quest]

Any HDR expert could suggest some good color grading settings pretty plesae?

[steep vine]

is the crimson desert mod available? and where can i download it.

[lucid thorn]

Good good news you're already there

[ruby tusk]

Calibrate your display , and use defaults

[viscid wedge]

Nope. Depends on you, your display, and your lighting environment. Defaults work in most cases.

[sick monolith]

bruh the expert already set it to that, no need to change it

[lucid thorn]

Do you want more contrast? Like what are you looking for

[upbeat magnet]

for initial setup, do I need to adjust the base HDR game values at all, or are they completely overwritten when you install reno?

[karmic quest]

Yeah true, really liking colors already.

[late marlin]

great hdr mod so far. I think this game has just a naturally overexposured look, especially when going from inside a house to outside during day. thats just normal

[viscid wedge]

The only slider in the game settings that works is the UI brightness with Reno installed

[sick monolith]

all you need to match is the peak nits

[steep vine]

Guys where can i download this mod?

[lucid thorn]

Could do contrast at 55/60 to give it a small pop if you want it a bit more oomph I guess

[flint moss]

Yup I developed bipolar disorder for the first 15ish hours lol

[karmic quest]

Thanks for the patience and help everyone wouldn't have done it without you guys, bless.

[late marlin]

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[ruby tusk]

you just need to make sure your display is using calibrated windows hdr profile so RenoDX can pull from those values @karmic quest

[lucid thorn]

I'm happy me shit posting got you there in the end

[viscid wedge]

wait I thought you went to bed lol

[karmic quest]

yh since I run true black hdr setting on monitor I set peak to 450 and game to 390

[ruby tusk]

if you haven't done that, you need too

[karmic quest]

Yeah I do have it.

[lucid thorn]

Yo same

[sick monolith]

game setting is ignored when you have reno

[lucid thorn]

I've been giving true black and peak 1000 a try lately

[lucid thorn]

We got the same panel almost

[karmic quest]

no the one in the setting for renodx

[late marlin]

it looks amazing on lg c4

[karmic quest]

there is game setting also

[lucid thorn]

That's an explosive

[upbeat magnet]

First attempt at using this on the AVP, config is gonna be weird

[flint moss]

Is peak 1000 any good here? Ive always hated the abl so true 400

[sick monolith]

don't you get a lot of white blobs?

[late marlin]

i had to think for 20 seconds what that means but i get it 😄 c4 😄

[karmic quest]

Windows is annoying me with this though, I disable HDR usually when doing other stuff.. and when I do this and reenable with the HDR Profile it starts throwing me this I need to delete the profile and then make a new one again for it to not throw errors in HDR, it works tho lol

[lucid thorn]

Ngl it's a preference thing. I don't know if I see much of a difference.

I think true black is a bit brighter overall than peak 1000 (on my display), but 1000 has better brightness in the 10%.. Whatever. I'm gonna be real honest, I half understood

[lucid thorn]

I don't think so?

[sick monolith]

mismatch will cause clipping

[lucid thorn]

Not that I noticed

[naive jackal]

@flint moss If you have an MSI qd-oled you can always try eotf boost

[flint moss]

Yeah peak is higher but everything else becomes darker

[lucid thorn]

I'm on an aw2725df

[lucid thorn]

Right, and I don't mind that

I usually play in all black room and don't really notice the lighting difference

[flint moss]

Lol i actually do 😂 heard its not so good tho?

[sick monolith]

if your paper white is 203 and your true black is 400..

you have 204-1000 for highlights then you clip the highlights early at 400 UNLESS your have DTM on top of HGIG

[lucid thorn]

I don't believe you that those are real words

[late marlin]

Now there is only 1 mod i need. Hide hats

[lucid thorn]

That exists I think

Wait does it

[late marlin]

Not yesterday

[sick monolith]

huh?

[lucid thorn]

I know you can hide swords, shield s, stuff like that

[lucid thorn]

Sorry haha I don't think I have hgig or dtm

[radiant oriole]

What preset yall using

[ruby tusk]

D

[sick monolith]

you do have at least one of them i'm sure

[steep vine]

uhm is there some tutorial video how to set this tool up?

[ruby tusk]

Google

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[late marlin]

E and disabled dof. This way i get almost No artifacts during cutscenes and its way sharper during motion.

[lucid thorn]

Uh how do I know

[upbeat magnet]

oh shit cam from clikrad is here lma

whattup

[radiant oriole]

What are the best settings for this game? Anyone with a list?

[ruby tusk]

Wassup

[sick monolith]

monitor model?

[narrow frost]

DLSS: K
RR: E

[late marlin]

Benchmarking on yt does really good settings optimization. I think his vid for Crimson Desert is out

[sick monolith]

DLSS OFF

[lucid thorn]

aw2725df

[late marlin]

Oh hell No 😄

[primal estuary]

it is not, check out Harware unboxed, but there really isnt much to play with

[ruby tusk]

Have you not noticed issues in cutscenes with preset E for RR?

[lucid thorn]

Do what mad says but I use

[pallid hazel]

As someone who also owns this monitor I do believe it does not have hgig or anything like it. You have pretty much peak 1000 and true black 400

[late marlin]

There is no way i am playing this game without dlss, ray reconstruction and multi frame gen

[lucid thorn]

Yeah that's my understanding

They look good

[primal estuary]

this, see how its all basically maxed?

[lucid thorn]

I don't even know what the other stuff is haha

[lucid thorn]

Ye? Aha

[narrow frost]

Not as far as I can tell, you?

[ruby tusk]

yeah I get these weird shadows textures when using Preset E for RR during cutscenes

[primal estuary]

using your response for some other lad, thanks for posting that lol

[pallid hazel]

I believe hgig tells the monitor not to tone map the image at all and let the game and windows do all the work

[lucid thorn]

Oh that's handy

[weary tangle]

You have to disable dof when using E

[ruby tusk]

Really?

[late marlin]

When i have hgig active i can actually cap the peak nits through the HDR calibration Windows App the right way

[lucid thorn]

Tbh I'm still very green with hdr. I dunno what I'm doing haha

[sick monolith]

@lucid thorn up to what do you see here?

[lucid thorn]

Do you want me to use 1000 or true black

[lyric acorn]

hey, i got black boxes around charakters. Is this a bug ?

[ruby tusk]

I'll try that, thanks

[sick monolith]

whatever you currently are on in crimson. do it in edge or chrome browser

[late marlin]

thats weird. you dont use a very old gpu driver, right?

[lyric acorn]

newest Nividia

[steep vine]

i dont really understand how i set this up

[final imp]

how to?

[weary tangle]

Ingame settings

[upbeat magnet]

Anyone stream with apollo/moonlight?

[ruby tusk]

Accessibility in-game

[sick monolith]

dof is in the very last tab to the right

[lucid thorn]

1166 I think? 1080 is the least I can see clearly, I can kinda see 1166 though (if that's what that says)

I'm on the true black preset I had

[sick monolith]

ok then you are HGIG

if dtm is on you will see up to 10k

[lucid thorn]

Weird

[jade flame]

What GPU you have? Because it seems to happen more with 50 series.
Though there was a person on Steam boards who said they had it happen with their 4090.

[stone comet]

no lie why the hell doesnt glove abyss gears apply to every weapon apparently they only apply to unarmed attacks lmao

[lucid thorn]

So.. Is that good or bad

[sick monolith]

it's good for gaming

[lucid thorn]

Ah I see

I can tell you games look great on this thing

It's probably a little overkill tho

[narrow frost]

Is it only in cutscenes or are you able to get it in normal gameplay as well?
I know there is this weird issue I'm able to replicate (this is linked to RR in general so D or E does not matter), when scrolling into closest view so you can see your characters face up close:
Certain objects/volumetric lighting gets a duplicate of the reflection map for either the face or hair of the character.
I posted in here I think yesterday or two days ago, but as someone likely mentioned already its most likely DoF causing it (there are blur options under "Accessibility" in settings) be sure to turn off both DoF and blur as it gets rid of pretty much all the artifacting.

[ruby tusk]

I only had it happen in cutscenes

[steady orbit]

Hi. Got anyone best settings on renodx in this game? Which tone mapping and other think? Thank you

[steep vine]

is this tool allready out? is this the one thats pinned? bcs i dont know how to open it lol

[lucid thorn]

Just run it default and have fun. Make sure you calibrate in windows and set the nits to that. Otherwise defaults are already good enough Imo

[lucid thorn]

You need reshade

[narrow frost]

This is the issue I'm talking about (Look at the mountain in the background):
This also happens on certain tent walls (cloth).

it only occurs on close view*

[steady orbit]

Which reshade you recommented?

Firefly

[ruby tusk]

Yeah haven't had that

[sick monolith]

rushmore?

[lucid thorn]

You don't need any reshade

[zenith belfry]

that happens in vanilla too

[steep vine]

lol? i need a better install instruction >.< dont get it

[regal tundra]

Did the latest patch improve dlss blurryness

[lucid thorn]

Kliff really left an impression on that mountain (I think?)

[narrow frost]

For me it only shows with RR enabled (close up view camera mode), when i turn it off it goes away 😄

[steady orbit]

@lucid thorn so reshade install and renodx and this is it, right?

[lucid thorn]

That's right

[lucid thorn]

See this post, all you need to do

[steep vine]

ok and where to download rendox

[lucid thorn]

The pins 😄

Download reshade then get the addon64 file from pins and you're golden

[sick monolith]

not really true for this game

[regal tundra]

What about the directory he linked though?

[lucid thorn]

Well then enable hdr

[steady orbit]

This last renodx file got some new stuff in renodx, i got more options

[lucid thorn]

Which directory

[upbeat magnet]

addon goes in the bin64 directory for the game

[lyric acorn]

i think i found "the Problem" with the boxes around charakters. Its the Rendering= Diffuse BRDF. For this makes the Problem

[regal tundra]

What about the github link with all the files

[lucid thorn]

That's just source

[regal tundra]

Ah

[upbeat magnet]

steam\steamapps\common\crimson desert\bin64

[regal tundra]

Wow that is so simple how can’t everyone follow these instructions 😉

[steady orbit]

Yesterday file for renodx is latest, right?

[lucid thorn]

Yep

Next newest will replace it

[steady orbit]

Whrn coming?

When

[lucid thorn]

Soon™️

[upbeat magnet]

when its ready

[lucid thorn]

Thanks cyberpunk

[regal tundra]

Does major game updates usually break Reno implementation?

[steady orbit]

So guys everything in latest renodx file leave to defoult, right?

[lucid thorn]

Correct

[sick monolith]

if they change rendering stuff maybe

[steady orbit]

What about sharpness? I set to 50 lol

[quartz tendon]

Sometimes, sometimes not. Usually the reno file is updated within a day or so when this happens (game runs anyways - except RE9 had problems due to Denuvo updating something too if I don't remember falsely)

[lucid thorn]

That's your preference

[sick monolith]

gameplay updates nah

[stone comet]

sharpness on 50 is crazy work

[lucid thorn]

I wonder if it would be possible to speed up game load

[karmic quest]

You guys think the devs will rework how RT works in this game and fix plethora of other issues that visually ruins the game

[sick monolith]

zero sharpness and use rcas instead?

[fleet jacinth]

lol

[steady orbit]

I play on fsr 4 quality mode but why is graphics sometimes so ugly, textures

[fleet jacinth]

just like they fixed it for black desert online?

[karmic quest]

They never fixed it there did they

[deft pulsar]

Native AA is the only playable setting

[sick monolith]

they don't even now it's broken

[deft pulsar]

some people say with DLSS inputs the game looks sharper via optiscaler but that wasnt the case for me tbh

[steady orbit]

@deft pulsar which gpu are you using?

[deft pulsar]

7900XT

[karmic quest]

Its driving me crazy that there are tens of reports in discord if not hundreds talking about this exact problem lol

[steady orbit]

@deft pulsar you play on 4k?

[lucid thorn]

just checked nexus

[deft pulsar]

1440p

[lucid thorn]

we already have a "sexy" mod

didn't take long

[steady orbit]

@deft pulsar i got 7900 xtx but native aa give me only 60 fps

[sterile sable]

optiscaler does nothing, tested it second day after release.
However toggling DLAA once and then swapping to quality seems to stabilize image a bit

I for some reason get better image including indoors with new reno

[sick monolith]

they also know this discord exists to fix their errors

[deft pulsar]

yeah that's about right

[sterile sable]

maybe because of disabled VRS?

[sand vector]

how much programming knowledge this kind of modding requires?

[deft pulsar]

considering this engine seems to be major spaghetti, a lot

[fleet jacinth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimsonDesert/comments/1s1q987/hdr_finally_worksgame_is_beautiful_af/

what do you mean its broken?

[sand vector]

ohno, better finish my school then

[fleet jacinth]

the gamers love it

[nova cargo]

G*mers

[fleet jacinth]

hdr is amazing, rt RR is working flawlessly

[deft pulsar]

a more streamlined, documented engine is definitely less work

[fleet jacinth]

its optimized and not UE5 slop

[deft pulsar]

it's not lmao

[lyric acorn]

somebody has to do some texture pack mod for this Game, espacially for Tarrain

[fleet jacinth]

these devs really knows their stuff, 7 years of optimization

all of this is shit i've read online

[outer furnace]

why do you guys have to keep bringing up this HDR gore

im crying everytime

[deft pulsar]

this actually looks like shit btw

[fleet jacinth]

turns out its just another game that runs like trash lol

[karmic quest]

I wonder if you can give yourself these armor pieces with the tool from nexus mods

[vivid iris]

genuinely why do so many people take pictures of their screen

[fleet jacinth]

that PR guy they had doing the rounds really deserve his pay thats for sure

he did great work

[lucid thorn]

Hey I paid for that

[sand vector]

first year programmer student here but definetly interested in this kind of stuff

[deft pulsar]

only thing that did great work is their money

[ruby tusk]

stuck in 2006

[karmic quest]

I could only buy deluxe on steam, dont blame me.

[deft pulsar]

Digital Foundry definitely got an hefty sum

[sand vector]

also interested in game graphics so would be perfect

[sick monolith]

at least UE5 you can bruteforce with a 5090..

[crude marsh]

was briefly malding until I read this

[fleet jacinth]

the whole hype train on this game was pretty wild

the game is good though but man there were some beasts out there going buck wild

[ruby tusk]

how we doin today, Laz?

[vivid iris]

I was under the impression that most people seemed to get that this game was a big mess lol

but maybe that's just my bubble I'm in

[ruby tusk]

You would think

[final imp]

always been a bit of slop

[ocean onyx]

there is no consensus on anything about this game

[vivid iris]

I can see how a lot of younger people might think this game was gonna be the next greatest thing

[ocean onyx]

the people who love it are disagreeing with the people who love it

[deft pulsar]

yeah I mean you only need a pair of working eyes to see the technical mess this game is

[vivid iris]

I mean I love it so far but it's bad in all the ways I expected

[ruby tusk]

Same

[upbeat magnet]

night is horrendous

sun never goes down lmfao

[ruby tusk]

yep

[fleet jacinth]

the general opinion that i saw online was overwhelmingly positive

[ruby tusk]

welcome to pearly abyss

[lucid thorn]

I think I installed the camera mod

[fleet jacinth]

especially when it came to performance

[sick monolith]

brother

[lucid thorn]

But I can't remember if this is default or mod tbh

[vivid iris]

it did have a bit of a hype ramp up in the final couple months

[lucid thorn]

I'm so confused

[vivid iris]

but before that general sentiment seemed about right

[upbeat magnet]

"nIgHtS aRe AcTuAlLy DaRk LiKe DrAgOn's DoGmA"

[sterile sable]

I dunno how but for me turning on DLAA and then switching to DLSS Q fixes this weird shitty indoor glitches

[upbeat magnet]

4town

[fleet jacinth]

How can the nights be dark when the moon is actually a sun in this world?

[ruby tusk]

[lucid thorn]

Can someone send a picture of their game real quick I wanna check this Camara hahaha

[lucid thorn]

Uhhhhhh

[deft pulsar]

this guy apple vision pros

[lucid thorn]

Thanks

[upbeat magnet]

😂

[lucid thorn]

Haha

[sick monolith]

r u on vr?

[lucid thorn]

I dunno if I installed this wrong but I think it's right

[upbeat magnet]

I use the AVP.

[steep vine]

guys what is wrong?

[marsh robin]

How do I used reno on this game?

[steep vine]

what .fx file is it missing?

[sick monolith]

go to the reno tab

[ionic parcel]

its all fine, nvm the fx if you don't use any 😄

[vivid iris]

it's not a reshade preset, it's an addon file. You have the renodx tab there, that's where the settings are

[final imp]

do VR headsets have HDR? i have galaxy xr

[marsh robin]

im blind apparently lol

[upbeat magnet]

There are many flavors, depends on what you're trying to do.

[lilac violet]

thanks king works for me now

[steep vine]

so this are the settings?

[upbeat magnet]

I chose AVP because I don't care about VR, but wanted the best scalable display option available that I could stream content to over the network. AVP is a 5,000nit micro-OLED display per eye between 4k-5k res. Supports HDR10, Dolby Vision, etc. @ 120hz.
There are headsets that don't do VR, but allow you to connect them physically to your PC rather than streaming content over your LAN that support HDR, but there are limitations as they are essentially just display extensions and don't have their own dedicated operating system. Cheaper but good alternatives.

I just hate having to sit at my desk tbh.

[steep vine]

and last question why i miss this settings on mine?

[final imp]

Yeah ill need to look into what the GXR can do, I've just used it for a bit of VR gaming, but playing crimson desert on it would be sick

[lucid thorn]

Okay I'm pretty sure this Camara thing worked

maybe

[hoary knot]

Man I wish DLSS 4.5 had a Ray Reconstruction version too

[sick monolith]

and a headache.. auto exposure..

[upbeat magnet]

Worth trying, for sure. I can't speak to the GXR, but gaming on the Vision is actually really sick tbh. Fully replaced me having to sit at my desktop, minor loss of perceptible quality vs. native depending on your hardware and your network throughput.

[hoary knot]

I think you don't have HDR on in the game settings? And if you do make sure it's not HDR 10+

[steep vine]

aaa i need to turn hdr on? in windows + game?

[hoary knot]

Yes

[steep vine]

bcs my screen always got gray when i put hdr on

oke

[hoary knot]

Oh.. then you don't want it

[steep vine]

HDR is only needed for that 2 settings i send above here right?

[hoary knot]

RenoDX is usually for better HDR. If your monitor isn't good for it, better to have it off. Yeah HDR is only for those two settings

[steep vine]

Allright tnx!

do someone have some recommended settings?

[crude saffron]

hey guys, one question, if im using trueblack400 (465 nits) should i use default game brightness (203) or lower it?

[sick monolith]

try 150+ to allow room for your highlights

[crude saffron]

what would u recommend? or do i just leave it at 203

[sick monolith]

203 is the standard for 1000 nits as per ITU

[steep vine]

? are this the best settings? just default?

[mortal wolf]

personal choice, 50 was tweaked for noticeable at 4K.

[sick monolith]

colorists usually do 1/3 of the peak

[sick monolith]

they are default except hammon since many people say eon causes black boxes in characters

[outer furnace]

there is no standard, its entirely personal preference and dependant on your lighting environment, its as if you would say TV volume would have a standard. this post explains it well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HDR_Den/comments/1rwvd20/about_hdr_paper_white_hdr_reference_white_level/

To me, 203 is too little in CD, sky looks annuaturally dim in HGIG, I had to bump it to 250. Then in other games my eyes burn out at 203 and I have to lower it, there is no standard

[steep vine]

do more people have the problem, that when you use this mod the screen is not in full screen ? i see my toolbar?

[tame vault]

Start at 203. Turn it up if you want brighter. Turn it down if you want dimmer. Done.

[sick monolith]

if you actually read the ITU paper it says 203 for 1000.. now if you have true black 400 and you set your paper white to 300 if that's your preference then u might as well turn hdr off

[digital quest]

"Secret" sauce = crank everything up
https://x.com/Kleanisklean/status/2036498016404742403

Klean 🧽 (@Kleanisklean)

Might of found the secret settings sauce for @CrimsonDesert_

Cinematic everything but use DLSS 4.0 Balanced and Ray Reconstruction on.

Basically looks native and very steady fps without frame gen. Averaging around 85 fps.

Really seems like this preset was made for RR.

X · Mar 24, 2026, 5:38 PM

[tame vault]

That's my exact settings

[outer furnace]

it is a recommendation, and only if youre in a pitch black room

[fleet jacinth]

i mean thats what i do, except performance instead of balanced at 4k

[digital quest]

Dont take that paper literally. There other factors like how is the room lit

[chrome sun]

|| What the hell, found a random bear, that destroyed me, i still manage to beat it and now i can use it as a mount ||

[sick monolith]

no ITU is guidelines for TV broadcast.. it assumes you are watching from a living room TV

[lucid thorn]

Guys I found a hilarious what I assume is a bug with timber

If you hit a tree twice with an axe it'll start to fall, if you hit it again while it's falling it'll teleport above the tree and upon landing will usually break a piece or two

[ocean onyx]

203 is mostly a fabrication based on observation

the number itself meaning zilch

[outer furnace]

then the ITU commitee is living in a chinese smog city where the sky is dimmed 24/7 i guess. I live rural and can take a look outside and actually see how bright a clear sky on a sunny day is supposed to be and in CD thats absolutely not the case at 203

[crude saffron]

what FG setting, if you use it?

[outer furnace]

in other games 203 is just fine, in cd, imo, no

[fleet jacinth]

Fg on 2x cause 4090

[outer furnace]

it might be if the game didnt have that weird auto exposure effect

[ocean onyx]

they were just reporting on common lighting conditions, not setting a standard

[sick monolith]

this is why oled is bad for bright rooms.. it's not ITU's fault that you have an oled

[ocean onyx]

203 is made up

[outer furnace]

yeah thats what im saying lol

[ocean onyx]

lilium's tl;dr on reddit really does just get to the heart of it

[hardy owl]

Me waiting for Forge to release the autoexposure mod

[outer furnace]

its a decent value to start off from but its not always "correct". then again its entirely subjective so if its correct to you, more power to you

[chrome sun]

|| well it's a temporary mount, i just get off and it eat me and throw me against a wall like a bag of potatoes||

[outer furnace]

this. and if the reddit gamers wanna turn saturation to 100000 and play Breath of the Desert, then so be it, if it looks good to them im happy they have fun lol

[hollow meteor]

Should the "HDR10+ Gaming" setting be enabled?

[barren pasture]

[sick monolith]

why are we trying to fix this game then.. i'm pretty sure the mods here adhere to a set of guidelines for hdr

[outer furnace]

first and foremost to combat overbrightening which is often the case with native HDR implementations

[sick monolith]

everyone here says grass is cooked in the reddit post

so if i say that looks good to me so be it??

[fleet jacinth]

LOL i was waiting for the picture to load into full resolution

[outer furnace]

YES! thats the point man XD

[fleet jacinth]

i guess ill be waiting forever..

[sick monolith]

lol no

[outer furnace]

if u like 203 then good lol

[worthy kernel]

doom eternal on switch 1 be like

[steel wolf]

Did you do anything else to get this kind of darkness other than reno mod? My game is no where near as dark, although I decreased contrast from 60->50 because it was making shadows overly dark during the day.

[sick monolith]

you do understand that a number from 0 to 203 or even to 400 will make that grass look cooked or raw,,

[vestal flicker]

Well actually when it comes to hdr, 203 is kinda standard. You can obviously go higher for ambient light compensation but in a dark room, the good practice is that you can go lower, but never go higher as it does definitely messes with intended contrast and reduces perceptual saturation.

[worthy kernel]

203 is too bright when in a pitch dark room

ie at night

[sick monolith]

u say do 203.. turn the lights off.. then you adjust to try to match what you saw when the lights were off

[faint bobcat]

current build doesnt have it

[sick monolith]

not preference

[faint bobcat]

this WIP

[vestal flicker]

Pitch black yes but I said dark ! Pitch black is great obviously but I wouldn't recommand doing that all day😅 ... Not great for your circadian rythm.

[sick monolith]

nobody here has a pitch black room.. all your walls are white.. nobody has gray walls here lmao

[steady stirrup]

ive installed reshade and copied the addon file to bin64 but theres no reno section showing in game weirdly

[hardy owl]

Did you install reshade with full addon support?

[steady stirrup]

i believe i did yea, ill run anotheer install of reshade and make sure i do that tho

[chrome sun]

there is a bandit camp with like 30 bandits, I kill two of them and they suddenly all flee in every direction what the hell

[lament nymph]

this game during the night is almost unplayable

because not only it's dark lighting shifts stupidly all the time

[faint bobcat]

# SLOP DROP 4: The Crimson is Deserting

As a heads up, virus total also hates this build. It's a false positive as always and the code is available to review. https://github.com/OopyDoopy/renodx/commit/51d54dae9267113beb4aa83fe15cf3ccedf5111e

• Added stuff

[steel wolf]

ah nice

[modest hatch]

What’s this

[thin forge]

Stuff and … things?

[sick monolith]

so is it 203 or nah

thank you so much for all your work

[modest hatch]

No way

I thought it was non existent conceptual entities

[lament nymph]

how is this even graphics

can't see shit

[thin forge]

MOAR DOTS

[modest hatch]

Isn’t this with the focus mode

[stone comet]

new update lets go

[sick monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-5916138264924840740

[lament nymph]

just light the lantern up and it's like that

[vestal flicker]

You can go lower if you like the added contrast but should only go higher in bright room if you can't see shit. Does that help ?😅

[steady stirrup]

Must have done something wrong but it's working now, thank you

[sick monolith]

nah i'm fine.. i do 3k nits in a dark room

[stone comet]

at least you dont have to manually delete shaders every time on cd just does it for you

[jade flame]

Lmao. That change log.

[mortal wolf]

the right is adjusted still, or raw scene linear? sorry, I, uh, might have forgotten if you told me

[final imp]

I hit reset settings on the menu and crashed 😱

[outer furnace]

why the hell does antivirus think a renodx plugin is fishy lol, like actually interested where it draws the connection

[stone comet]

I think its cause a lot of people downloaded it?

[outer furnace]

cause the hooking is done by reshade itself no? thats where I could see a false positve happening

[stone comet]

It doesnt trigger until it hooks into it yeah

[mortal wolf]

2fast2furious

[crude saffron]

what would you guys think looks "cleaner" between these two? https://imgur.com/a/5JAVC2k (DLAA+RR off)
https://imgur.com/a/mgwb9jQ (performance+Ray reconstruction)

[mortal wolf]

there's no hooking at all, it just doesn't like us. at worst it loads directx

[stone comet]

holy shit lol

[supple summit]

Are these thumbnails you uploaded ?

[worldly vapor]

whatver u prefer mate

[faint bobcat]

left is base game with crank auto exposure which turns nights into days and the interiors get utterly fried with nuclear adaptation

right is modified so nights look dark + no more nukes

[crude saffron]

if u press on the pic it goes to full res

[supple summit]

apparently not, it only shows me a 540p image

[faint bobcat]

Raw scene is giga cranked

[mortal wolf]

fixed scaled, or some adjustment? basically interested in trying some real math where you eye/brain does gain as if you were there (no camera stuff)

[faint bobcat]

I adjusted their existing settings using the tools they had

they have sky visibility

interior visibilty

that sort of thing

[mortal wolf]

are lights globally consistent at least?

[faint bobcat]

// Auto exposure tuning (hardcoded defaults to save cbuffer space)
#define AE_DARK_POWER_OUTDOOR 0.25f
#define AE_DARK_POWER_INDOOR 0.55f
#define AE_BRIGHT_POWER_OUTDOOR 1.0f
#define AE_BRIGHT_POWER_INDOOR 1.0f
#define AE_ADAPT_SPEED_BOOST 3.0f
#define AE_EV_BIAS (-1.0f)
// Tonemap highlight dimming (hardcoded defaults)
#define AE_TRANSITION_THRESHOLD 0.0f
#define AE_KNEE_ADAPTED 0.0f
#define AE_KNEE_TRANSITION 0.0f
#define AE_COMPRESS_MAX 0.0f

[flint moss]

Is that the auto exposure fix I see? 😍

[mortal wolf]

hmm

[sick monolith]

You know it's forged when shaders take long to compile

[faint bobcat]

yes, its just that RAW scene with no auto exposure is giga cranked

also they tie emissive properties of a ton of materials to auto exposure

so those glowing rocks

[solar bone]

I hate how clouds just look bad in general, same with smoke, and anything which passes through it gets insane ghosting

[faint bobcat]

some lights

[mortal wolf]

yeah, but i can put a flat scalar. ideally i do the natural eye adaptation and don't need those numbers, but values have to be reasonable

contrast as a flat number is technically wrong

[outer furnace]

if you use any kind of upscaling clouds and smoke are fucked yeah

[faint bobcat]

we shall see, RAW also has giga dark interiors

[solar bone]

Laz managed to fix it in other games but this one sounds rough

[faint bobcat]

so its cranked brightness outdoors, and pitch abyss indoors

[quaint cove]

Quick question should Generic Depth and Effect Runtime Sync be left enabled?

[ruby tusk]

nah

[quaint cove]

Aight, thanks

[faint bobcat]

perf cost

no reason to have it on

[ruby tusk]

^

[stone comet]

oh my lord

bro looks oiled up

[quaint cove]

LOL

[worldly vapor]

p diddy was here

[stone comet]

feat. random fizzling on the side

[upbeat magnet]

didn't you see the NPC sweat mechanics based on temp? they really thought of everythind didnt they?

[ruby tusk]

[faint bobcat]

AINT NO PARTY LIKE A DIDDY PARTY

[mortal wolf]

doll for sale

[faint bobcat]

my unsloppification has now exposed more issues

[ruby tusk]

he has been reslopped

[faint bobcat]

fix one issue, 7 more spawn

[stone comet]

this is too fucking funny tho

[barren pasture]

why slop drop 3 though? Thats 4th iteration of mod

[faint bobcat]

is it?

I dunno

lost track

[barren pasture]

yeah i downloaded each

[fresh field]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[barren pasture]

[flint moss]

guys my game crashed when i try to "reset all" on the new renodx. do i need to delete shaders or something?

[stone comet]

LOL?

[faint bobcat]

I shipped a zip bomb

[upbeat magnet]

LMFAOOOO

[faint bobcat]

which is why resetall crashes

[stone comet]

did you actually work at remedy

[faint bobcat]

RenoDX isnt even made by Pumbo

thats the worst part

[stone comet]

yeah its just a bunch of different people most of the time?

[sick monolith]

RR on LEFT
RR off RIGHT

[eager epoch]

Tnx for the feedback! I appreciate that

[crude marsh]

[mortal wolf]

it's all musa

there's musa jonmusa forgemusa and ritsumusa

[narrow frost]

Musa inception.

[paper oriole]

I hope the borked parallax with RR gets fixed in the next update (of the game).

[supple summit]

personal preference for me it looks better on the right without rr .

[ruby tusk]

I tried to tell him to get ReShade and RenoDX for even more secret sauce and bro said "eww reshade"

[sick monolith]

With RR is left

[abstract hawk]

Musa and his personalities.

[supple summit]

i changed it already, but thanks 😉

[abstract hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-miss-patricia-split-james-mc-avoy-gif-10366042216491108454

[supple summit]

Thank you to all people involved in this project. I can finally enjoy Crimson Desert. Big Kudos !

[crude marsh]

no RR is so bad but like everything else is also bad with RR just less so

[paper oriole]

except for rain and pom 😉

[ruby tusk]

basically do you want bad or worse?

pick your poison

[stone comet]

real

[crude marsh]

eh the POM looks silly either way

[faint bobcat]

You should check out Wall's changelogs

[flint moss]

wait the moon became like 5x bigger with the new preset xD. toggling it on and off is hilarious. is it the overblown exposure that made it look so small before?

[paper oriole]

moon size is a setting

[mortal wolf]

moonmaxxing

[jade flame]

Jesus. Lol

[flint moss]

i legit thought i was in day time before installing but apparently its the middle of the night lol

[flint moss]

ooh cool

[barren pasture]

cant make 100x larger, bad mod

cant do proper slop

[mortal wolf]

you can actually key it in with tab or ctrl+click

[paper oriole]

for proper slop, uninstall reno

[barren pasture]

nah, im just kidding

but samsung fake moon wen?

[mortal wolf]

but now i want to see it at 10,000

[drowsy shoal]

what is the best setting for reno so far?

[barren pasture]

i even dont own a game

im waiting until its fixed

[barren pasture]

defaults i guess

creators (Forge) intent

[stone comet]

its so nice not getting flashbanged anymore

[paper oriole]

default, set max nits to match display if it didn't autodetect

[jade flame]

New version of RenoDX for CD. Am getting ghosting at the edge of the screen when I move my camera.

Am uploading a YT video now.

[flint moss]

this is nuts, the atmosphere changed completely,, its awesome

[faint bobcat]

because Pearl in their infinite wisdow decided to use temporal reprojection for the whole ass sky box.

So distant LODs for instance near the horizon all shimmer because of their TAA jitter

[narrow frost]

I just got off to eat something, will definitely hop back on afterwards lmao. 😄

[zealous dock]

I noticed an issue with the mod too.
disabling the tessellation causes what looks like vertex explosions that pop for a frame or so

[stone comet]

Posted the new added settings as well #1469072401450012774 message

[eager epoch]

Yes I know, still unfixed properly

[hidden ivy]

Reset all button kills the game now 😄

[barren pasture]

i think game deserved it

[ruby tusk]

Forge, Jon, Fuse out here doing the lords work

no more flashbangs

[vivid iris]

SLOP DROP 4 Hotfix: The Crimson is Desertinger

As a heads up, virus total also hates this build. It's a false positive as always and the code is available to review. https://github.com/OopyDoopy/renodx/commit/51d54dae9267113beb4aa83fe15cf3ccedf5111e

• Fix reset all
• Fix missing Hue Restore slider

[stone comet]

It cant be reno causing the weird shadow parts pushing through right?

[vivid iris]

I wasn't sure if this was a weird effect in the game or a bug, have not checked without reno yet

[paper oriole]

that looks like preset e

[jade flame]

Edge ghosting with latest version. Easiest to see at the right edge of the screen.

Can skip to 00:17 if you just want to see the symptom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW-C2X79LgA

[paper oriole]

using rr?

[stone comet]

Oh it is set to E on rr

is D the better option then?

[paper oriole]

there you go my friend

[paper oriole]

for this game, yes

[stone comet]

Swagggg appreciate it

[outer furnace]

time to bench bitdefender for 5 mins, again

[lament nymph]

only in this game do animal poachers and wolf poachers have their own army x.x

[stone comet]

@paper oriole You tested much with just the general DLSS presets?

I've mostly just went with game default

[rotund raptor]

Yall know you can just white list your steam folder so you dont need to worry about false positive viruses right?

[paper oriole]

No I've only ever played the game maxed out. I did try preset e to see if it was better (it is in many ways, but then it has crazy issues as you demonstrated)

[stone comet]

Yeah E is a bit fucked LOL

[weary tangle]

If you're using E you have to disable dof to get rid of those shadow things

[paper oriole]

it fixes the waterfalls, it looks better, the shadows are more stable, but then anything close to the camera let's shadows show through

[stone comet]

Oh if disabling DoF is the fix that might be goated?

[paper oriole]

did not know this, but would never do this personally.

[karmic quest]

Wasn't D default for dlss 4.5? Could be mistaken

[paper oriole]

d is dedault for rr in this game. DLSS is separate from RR.

[jade flame]

Can anyone else confirm this artifact with the latest build?
#1469072401450012774 message

[narrow frost]

I always had it disabled so never experienced any issues with it. xd

[paper oriole]

technically the latest RR preset is e, on dlss 4.0 level tech.

[karmic quest]

Yh, Im running DLSS 4.5 Quality with RR. Tho I need to reset at some point because it randomly becomes blurry

[paper oriole]

You are not. There is no way to run dlss 4.5 with RR. Yes I know the menu seems to let you do that

[karmic quest]

Also someone tested and mentioned that there are memory leaks that could be causing the inconsistencies in graphics too

[paper oriole]

but when you turn on RR, you are using DLSS 4.0 level tech

[viral snow]

is it possible to run on linux ReShade+reno dx?

[stone comet]

Yeah fairs, I do think game benefits from dof a bit since it's a bit too clear when you can see the entire planet

[karmic quest]

What if I force it with DLSS Swapper tho

Should run 4.5

[jade flame]

Not how that works

[paper oriole]

DLSS and RR are mutually exclusive. Think of RR as a specific version of DLSS (because that's what it is)

[restive roost]

RR uses its own upscaler

[paper oriole]

It is impossible to run both (and nonsensical)

[woven ice]

and we should force preset D over E with RR when using HDR, right? from what I've read here

[paper oriole]

no need, that's the default

[karmic quest]

Is there a fix to the image where it just after some time just becomes blurry then?

[paper oriole]

Just don't overwrite the default with preset e

[narrow frost]

Yeah makes sense, but i tend to look across the screen a lot so becomes a bit distracting. 😄

[lament nymph]

I just got served by tax collector

I thought this was a fantasy game

[woven ice]

thanks mate

[lament nymph]

.............

I don't want to pay taxes wtf is this

[rotund raptor]

dont pay it then

[karmic quest]

Who can you trust if not the bank. 🤣

[jade flame]

Just gonna @faint bobcat this.
Hopefully it's not just me.
#1469072401450012774 message

[lament nymph]

next they gonna tax my horses

[sick monolith]

improved auto exposure left

[paper oriole]

I haven't double checked this, but logically, the in-game dlss presets are:

4.0 -> K
4.5 -> M
4.5 (L) -> L
RR -> D

[worldly vapor]

damn it is dark

[karmic quest]

There was an app you could run and it'd tell you what dlss version ur on

[sick monolith]

it's within the nvidia app statistics

[outer furnace]

4.5 (so M and L) only exist for performance and ultra performance by default, DLAA quality and balanced still use K which is 4.0

[karmic quest]

Or that yeah

[faint bobcat]

adjust toggles

which one solves it

[outer furnace]

you can force the new presets to the other modes but thats hit or miss

[karmic quest]

I wonder if those Nvidia App crimson desert settings do anything

[jade flame]

Testing. brb

[stone comet]

these guys chilling in the dark now

[karmic quest]

Can anyone comment whether the nvidia app settings do anything in game? Like if I enable Anistropic x16 in there would it do anything in game.

[sick monolith]

must be one of the cinematic settings.. i'm using all ultra and i dont have ghosting

[karmic quest]

Is there a specific reason why run all ultra?

Ik 2 settings on cinematic could cause issues

[hidden ivy]

I have it as well

[supple summit]

which 2 ?

[paper oriole]

So just to make sure we're on the same page, you are claiming that in this game, if you select DLSS 4.5 (L) and DLAA it overwrites the user decision and selects K? Or are you simply talking about what the origin of the presets are (their intended use)? Or are you making a subjective claim that L is unnecessary above High Perf?

[woven ice]

btw I noticed ghosting issues (esp. grass) on HDR RR RenoDX only with DLSS quality, other modes are fine

[narrow frost]

There is a option within the settings of DLSS Swapper as well - that has the script built in to toggle it in Windows, a debug overlay shows on all games that is actively using DLSS files.

[sick monolith]

in hardware unboxed video he said some cinematic settings are borked.. so i just assumed all of them are borked.. better safe than sorry

[karmic quest]

Model Quality / Lightning Quality, though With RR I dont think it matter much.

[alpine bear]

[karmic quest]

I was just basing it off hardware unboxed optimized setting video.

[drowsy shoal]

what setting you changed?

[supple summit]

thanks i use cinematic settings with RR

[lapis smelt]

Is there a huge impact in performance by disabling VRS?

[sick monolith]

yeah he said keep some at ultra instead of cinematic.. i just assumed all cinematic are broken

[paper oriole]

not a measurable one on my end

[plain fractal]

Anyone else getting a black screen with only HUD showing when using RR and setting a custom DLSS scaling value via NVIDIA App or Display Commander?

[karmic quest]

Im gonna play with Shadow quality still, lowering Model Quality I think affects also the render distance so pop ins were worse from my experience.

[eager epoch]

A dumb question but what is the best practice installing the addon? Can I just switch the files or should I clear driver cache and other things

[lapis smelt]

Just overwrite files

[paper oriole]

switch file, reset settings

[supple summit]

I noticed variable resolution when using dlaa, that sharpness slider eliminated that issue on my end, thanks.

[sick monolith]

u can't do that.. the game dislikes it

can only change preset letter in nvpi

[solar bone]

@faint bobcat Is fixed auto exposure not possible without killing all lights indoors?

[faint bobcat]

no

[solar bone]

dang

[supple summit]

yes, i get a black screen with only hud visible if i try to force any resolution etc. within profile inspector

[solar bone]

shitty effect

[sick monolith]

can we increase intensity of light sources indoors so they at least light up rooms?

i like the dark sky

[eager epoch]

For me with higher res it works if I put some small res its black

[faint bobcat]

having non blownout exteriors whilst indoors

and

having dark nights

and

having bright interiors

inst possible without

1. Reworking their entire auto exposure system and every other downstream pipeline aspect

2. Reworking weather so nights are actually dark at source

[open swan]

forge spent so much time fixing slop and people still hate sad forge 😭

[eager epoch]

But dlssinspector seems to ignore my change if res, it still shows the usual res

[sick monolith]

lol nobody hates forge

[faint bobcat]

tried, break ReSTIR

[karmic quest]

Sad that you dont work for pearl abyss.

[faint bobcat]

causes noise

[quartz flame]

i disabled this two from this add on

should be fine?

[drowsy shoal]

do i have to enable any effects in reshade menu?

or just activate the reno preset and done?

[outer furnace]

they arent lying when they say nights are actually dark now, cant see shit lol

[eager epoch]

Just reno, thats all we need

[narrow frost]

Yeah I noticed in the startup lol.

[outer furnace]

but damn do the nights look good now

[lime bridge]

just accept you won't be able to get the lighting "perfect" when devs make decisions like the auto-expsure there is only so much you can do. I spect way too much time trying to "fix" W3's lighting. Better to just pick which option you find more acceptable and accept the trade off

[deft pulsar]

is improved auto exposure pinned?

also, its for RR on right?

[sick monolith]

forge will make perfect lighting. how dare you. this is 3 days of work and already like this

[stone comet]

bro these earthen hexen warriors got hands what the fuck

[karmic quest]

Why are y'alls game so dark, what are you guys running

[karmic quest]

Just parry

Ez

[stone comet]

parry 10 enemies good luck

when it doesnt register half the time 💀

[fossil scroll]

any reason why i would be getting all sorts of black lines and stuff with hdr on?

[karmic quest]

Tower Shield is the meta pick

[vivid iris]

new auto exposure gonna show a lot of people that their panels black crush lol

[fossil scroll]

started after using the reno shader mod

[karmic quest]

Do you have DLAA on

[lime bridge]

Would be cool. I'm just saying from experience it's better to just not expect that.

[fossil scroll]

i tried turning dlaa off and using quality. as well

can you not use dlss at all?

[sick monolith]

u are supposed to hold R1 against packs like an MMO

[plain fractal]

How bad is it to use fixed auto exposure while not using RR?

[vivid iris]

haven't tried personally

[sick monolith]

true black oleds they say

[fossil scroll]

even with the files removed, i still can't turn on hdr without the screen freaking out. how do i force it to recompile the shaders?

[sick monolith]

at night it's ok.. but days will be dark too

[quartz flame]

this addon is still a work in progress or its pretty much the final build?

[worldly vapor]

literally says WIP in github title

:

[quartz flame]

we def need this for this game the Vanilla hdr looks bad in this game

[fossil scroll]

should we not be using dlss as an upscaler with this mod running?

[lament nymph]

the zoo in this game sucks, I picked up a rabbit cause I wanted to pet it and I got reported as a thief

[worldly vapor]

not a petting zoo i guess

[quartz flame]

ya i saw that but in the description says its pretty much done

[lime bridge]

the actual HDR aspect is pretty much final as far as I've seen. So you can use it for that no problmem

[sick monolith]

u dont need an upscaler if you are not using RR

[quartz flame]

i got a crash earlier using this addon but not sure if was from this or the game itself

actually was a image freeze and i had to force close the exe

[ruby tusk]

I be tryna tell people about RenoDX and they act like I'm tryna sell drugs to their kid
I'm just tryna help you make your game look better

[narrow frost]

4:50 pm is not far off from what night normally looks like. 😄

[jade flame]

People don't understand because they probably haven't seen good HDR.

[ruby tusk]

[flint moss]

1 much prefer these darker nights, gives a totslly different atmosphere

[flint moss]

Just use one of the reshades on nexus instead xd

[upbeat magnet]

tried giving reno a run after install and this lmfao

[narrow frost]

...

[smoky sigil]

for some reason with the new addon i have black screen with rr on

[steel wolf]

Holly shit

[narrow frost]

Weird, no issues here.

[lament nymph]

oh there are rhinos at the zoo

nice

[jade flame]

Are you trying to force a DLSS scale from outside of the game? (NV App, NVPI)

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-pauly-gif-25032006

they like

[lament nymph]

a gator too

[ruby tusk]

one dude I told about it said "eww reshade", I'm like man, you just need it to inject RenoDX, don't have to actually use a reshade

[karmic quest]

Might as well go sleep, good luck defeating smth in that pitch black night

[upbeat magnet]

Not that I recall, no.

[sick monolith]

is dolby vision good hdr?

[supple summit]

the average IQ is below 67 these days ... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[flint moss]

Ignorance is truly bliss. Once u go reno, everything else is shit

[ruby tusk]

[hidden ivy]

aren't lights a bit too weak now?

[supple summit]

finetune your reno settings

[karmic quest]

Are these new reno settings for the hdr or smth?

[steel wolf]

What is there to adjust? I think the darkness is awesome and very realistic but the latnern giving like 2ft of light makes nighttime borderline unplayable

[karmic quest]

Might need to make night vision mod for this game at this point.

[outer furnace]

yeah they definitely are too dim. the lantern still looks fine when you press L1 but the other light sources are too dim

[upbeat magnet]

issue from reshade itself. persisted even after i removed renodx

[carmine stump]

I don't like the rain in this game. Makes it look like way lower res, especially background

[lime bridge]

And this is why devs do what they do with visual/brightness settings.

[sick monolith]

turn it off if you want brighter days and nights

[karmic quest]

Yeah, we need ghost of tsushima rain.

[jade flame]

Very odd.
Maybe remove ReShade.ini and start over.

[upbeat magnet]

Install all addon checkboxes after selecting +addon support install, yes?

[lime bridge]

to be fair the default should probably be off for something so drastic

[hidden ivy]

I don't want that ... just brighter lights inside houses. Torches on walls do very little now.

[upbeat magnet]

even then, they're not enabled by default so not sure why those would have any impact

[outer furnace]

this pls

[karmic quest]

No

[outer furnace]

shopkeepers literally sitting in the dark now lol

[jade flame]

All you can really do is experiment.

Or nuke ReShade and start fresh.

[sick monolith]

can't have both right now.. it's a toggle as the mods said

[deft pulsar]

looks fine to me tbh

[lament nymph]

bank only loses money

the fk

[karmic quest]

Simply redux with full addon support -> select game -> select direct x 12 -> next -> select nothing -> next -> select nothing -> next @upbeat magnet

[upbeat magnet]

cheers

[sick monolith]

wait till night time and find another dark indoor

[lime bridge]

you know what you must do.. (but really wtf)

[karmic quest]

The drop the mod reno file in game folder and done, but your pc might try to block it

[deft pulsar]

purposufelly chose the room with no windows

[sick monolith]

yeah but this room has multiple light sources

[upbeat magnet]

testing again now, i figured + addon support meant approving all the addons during install as well

[lime bridge]

Many people only think they want their game to be actually dark. you learn this very quickly

[steel wolf]

If they can just make teh main character lantern brighter when its hanging on your waist that would fix everything for me

idk if thats in the scope of this mod tho

[sick monolith]

something like this house @deft pulsar

[golden scaffold]

Any else has their game hard stuck at 58 fps no matter what setting they choose until they turn on FG?

[upbeat magnet]

that fixed it :) appreciate you

[karmic quest]

Yeah until its so dark and you dont understand why you stopped moving 🤣

In caves going inside without a lamp is already a guessing game

Let alone having a mod this dark for the entire game

[golden scaffold]

I get 55 fps with DLAA and 58 fps with Ultra Perf somethings not right..?

[stone comet]

my fps gets cut in half on dLAA so deffo doesnt seem right lmao

[karmic quest]

Probably settings not applying

[golden scaffold]

Only when I turn on FG it doubles but it's pretty much stuck at 58 without it wtf

[karmic quest]

I mean DLAA is native pretty much.. so makes sense if you go from DLSS Quality to DLAA

I go from 90-110fps to 60

[stone comet]

yerrr

[restive roost]

i had that happen to me , had to restart game

[lime bridge]

what kind of monitor you playing on? Bright or dark room?

[karmic quest]

AW2725D and mostly dark room.

[golden scaffold]

Hmm already did

[karmic quest]

Tho Im running true black hdr 400 setting on the monitor

[ruby tusk]

Vanilla > RenoDX
3:42 AM

[sick monolith]

black crush for sure

[karmic quest]

The Windows HDR is buggy asf and idk how to fix.

[karmic quest]

Wdym, its the most accurate I can get on this monitor 😭

[sick monolith]

wdym accurate? did you calibrate with a probe?

[karmic quest]

If I go higher or disable true black setting it just turns blacks into not blacks.

[golden scaffold]

Oh now it fixed itself. Now it's on vsync range

Seems to gets stuck sometimes when messing with settings

[worldly vapor]

blacks should always be black on a oled lol

unless there black raise in the game/app itself

[lime bridge]

I wonder if they actually made a last minute auto-exposure adjustment in response to reviewers complaining about brightness or something.

[sick monolith]

turn on liliums hdr analysis.. if the min cll is not zero and you see black it means you are crushing

[crude marsh]

I wonder why they didnt just make lighting that works

[scenic adder]

That'd be too simple

[karmic quest]

Is it within the reno mod?

[crude marsh]

ok if I cant make anything else work maybe I can adjust lights...

[upper sun]

the night looked super weird for me it was like dark but in a very grey way xD kinda felt like all the color was just sucked out but i could still see everything it was just grey 02think Idk if its how its supposed to look KEKW~7

[smoky sigil]

still black screen with rr on even after reinstaling reshade

[lament nymph]

giving the bank last chance or I'm withdrawing all my $

[dire pilot]

I thought I read the DLAA/HDR thing was fixed but nope lol

[sick monolith]

it's a shader you check when you install reshade.. lilium's hdr analysis

[jade flame]

Yeah, no.
Not even on their list of bugs atm.

[karmic quest]

I'll take a look tomorrow tho. Ty

[lime bridge]

I blame devs/publishers being incentivized to cater to the lowest common denominator of consumer/gamer, tbh. (people gaming is super bright rooms with old LCDs)

[golden scaffold]

can someone actually notice which one uses RR? is it worth half the dps in outdoors?

[stone comet]

Should you generally use the color profile you setup through windows hdr or just leave it default?

[worthy belfry]

right is rr

[sharp moon]

@faint bobcat can we add a sdr toggle

[jade flame]

Outdoors the only difference is AO.
Indoors is the biggest difference.

[outer furnace]

not worth at all imo, only indoors which isnt a place youre in very often in CD

[narrow frost]

The moon looks great, holy.

[golden scaffold]

yeah shadowing on grass is much better but worth the performance for this scenario?

[lime bridge]

#2

[worthy belfry]

nope

[abstract hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[golden scaffold]

what is actually different besides better shadows on the grass?

[worthy belfry]

but we cant just toggle it on and off whenevr we walk inside rooms

well i guess we can

[worthy belfry]

the ao on the wagon

[golden scaffold]

its what I was doing

[worthy belfry]

loool

tbf im turning off auto exposure inside rooms sometimes cause i cant see things for puzzles loool

[crude marsh]

@faint bobcat should I just crank lights

    <Unit Name="Lux">
        <Light Name="Sun" Value="1000"/>
        <Light Name="Moon" Value="0.1"/>
    </Unit>
    <Unit Name="Lumen">
        <Light Name="Candlelight"             Value="12.57"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="Candlelight_02"         Value="16.57"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="Candlelight_04"         Value="25.14"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="Candlelight_06"         Value="37.71"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="Candlelight_08"         Value="50.28"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="Torchlight"             Value="62.85"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="Campfire"                 Value="75.6"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="Chandelier"             Value="128.4"     ColorTemperature="1850"/>
        <Light Name="V_In_Down_sp532p"         Value="3600"     ColorTemperature="4000"/>
        <Light Name="V_In_Down_sp146p"         Value="3240"     ColorTemperature="5000"/>
        <Light Name="V_In_Down_LD20R6"         Value="1900"     ColorTemperature="5700"/>
        <Light Name="V_In_Spot_HeadLight"    Value="18000"    ColorTemperature="6500"/>
        <Light Name="V_In_Spot_pt320t"         Value="1901"     ColorTemperature="2200"/>
        <Light Name="V_In_Spot_LTL12C4W"     Value="1432"     ColorTemperature="3000"/>
        <Light Name="V_Out_Spot_by950"         Value="4550"     ColorTemperature="6500"/>
        <Light Name="V_Out_Spot_LDR31"         Value="3976"     ColorTemperature="4000"/>
        <Light Name="V_Street_LR150MS"         Value="17370"     ColorTemperature="5000"/>
        <Light Name="V_Street_360_ofmt1"     Value="2140"     ColorTemperature="4000"/>
        <Light Name="V_LightHouse"             Value="380000"     ColorTemperature="5700"/>
        <Light Name="V_In_Down_Booster"     Value="250000"     ColorTemperature="4000"/>
    </Unit>
    <Unit Name="Nit">
        <!-- 촛불 면적 10cm x 5cm 기준, 200 nit (1 cd) -->
        <!-- 횟불 면적 50cm x 10cm 기준, 200 nit (10 cd 가정)-->
        <Light Name="CaveStone" Value="3"/>
        <Light Name="LED" Value="45"/>
        <Light Name="Down" Value="65"/>        
        <Light Name="Aura" Value="200"/>
        <Light Name="CandleFire" Value="2500"/>
        <Light Name="Candlelight" Value="3000"/>
        <Light Name="fire" Value="3500"/>        
        <Light Name="FireFlakes" Value="4500"/>
        <Light Name="Breath" Value="160" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="Beam" Value="800" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="Lightning" Value="1000" AutoExposure="True"/>        
        <Light Name="Lava" Value="2500" AutoExposure="True"/>        
        <Light Name="WildFire" Value="5000" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="Magic" Value="10000" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="Spark" Value="60000" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="Explosion" Value="100001" AutoExposure="True"/>

        <Light Name="Burn" Value="15.01" AutoExposure="True"/>

        <Light Name="BackgroundLED_Small" Value="1.5" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="BackgroundLED" Value="5.0" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="BackgroundLED_Large" Value="100.0" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="BackgroundNatural" Value="15" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="BackgroundLava" Value="8.0" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="CharacterLED" Value="25" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="CharacterLightning" Value="600" AutoExposure="True"/>    
        <Light Name="CharacterDecalLED" Value="3000.001" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="CharacterElement" Value="2.0" AutoExposure="True"/>
        <Light Name="TrapLED" Value="1.1" AutoExposure="True"/>
    </Unit>
</LightPreset>```

[golden scaffold]

true thats much better actually

[jade flame]

Go into a building or a lit cave and compare.

[karmic quest]

Yes and I see it immediately lol

[golden scaffold]

oh I know. it's why I was switching

[crude marsh]

fuck it lets just like 5x the lights and see what happens

[karmic quest]

Fuck around and find out

[upbeat magnet]

Is there a fix for the DLAA flickering?

[karmic quest]

Nah

DLSS 4.0 Quality only fix

[upbeat magnet]

will give it a go, probably fine too since ill be streaming it anyway

[lucid thorn]

Oh nice new update

[dire pilot]

hot damn, y'all cooked with that auto exposure fix - looks so good now

[upbeat magnet]

10/10 fix

[outer furnace]

sounds about right

[golden scaffold]

compromise: 60-70 fps in ultra performance with RR - can you tell which one is lower internal res, worth it? I get 40 fps in performance mode RR vs 80 no RR which was the original comparison 💀

goddamn i should have at least tried to capture the same angle

[worthy belfry]

uhh i think left is ultra performance??

what if u do 1800p performance

[lime bridge]

why not just do performance and frame-gen?

[worthy belfry]

tehee

[golden scaffold]

it's right 💀 sorry for the angle it messed up

[golden scaffold]

i wanted to but it feels very bad because it's fram gening from 40

[worthy belfry]

im playing on 1440p balanced so itll be better than mine im pretty sure

[restive roost]

dude why are you asking us tho? is it worth it to YOU?

[karmic quest]

Ah thats unlucky.

[sick monolith]

forge said he tried but broke restir in the process

[lime bridge]

gotcha, that is about the cutoff.

[crude marsh]

think he tried a different way

[golden scaffold]

I'm just curious what others think/see

(and checking if i'm not crazy if i can barely tell a diff)

[sharp moon]

Anyone using a 30 series card here?

[restive roost]

i understand that but youre the one playing the game

[golden scaffold]

actually that guy spotted AO on the wagon which is something I wasn't aware of, so that was interesting to learn

[ruby tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[restive roost]

armor looks different as well

[golden scaffold]

how did I miss THAT

very different

[restive roost]

and i see some more light bouncing on the back in the mountains, but its all personal preference

[golden scaffold]

why is it so low res looking without RR???

[outer furnace]

pls compile and share the second u got it, i already cant go back to turning the auto exposure option off but in most nps are sitting in the dark indoors cause their candles dont do shit lmao

[crude marsh]

basically without RR a ton of stuff is missing shading

because the GI don't work without RR

[golden scaffold]

yeah, true.. it adds GI, but damn...

[golden scaffold]

I just remember RTGI doing very little effect in Outlaws

[crude marsh]

this is one of my favorite examples

[flint moss]

Peak 1000 os better u think? Doesnt it get even darker, or im not understanding

[lucid thorn]

What's your contrast

[golden scaffold]

altho honestly this is almost a subjective difference here. at first i thought the right one was RRed then i noticed the reflectons on the stone? actually here a lot of people could have been fooled. worth the cost?

[restive roost]

depends on the scene and how much ABL bothers you i guess

[crude marsh]

of course the right is RR, it has GI

[golden scaffold]

55with 120 game brightness

[crude marsh]

left is totally flat

[golden scaffold]

but where did all the shiny stuff on the circular thing go

[lucid thorn]

Interesting it looked more colorful than I was expecting

[sharp moon]

Cant rr work with cinematic lighting instead

[crude marsh]

some fucky material idk

RR doesn't use max lighting

[scenic adder]

The lighting quality isn't the only thing it changes

[crude marsh]

it just says "max"

it is its own lighting

[golden scaffold]

I am sorry forgot i was on the other preset. it's 55/55 contrast/sat!!

[lucid thorn]

Ah that makes more sense! Thought I was going crazy

[mighty estuary]

Do you guys think that the ilumination will ever be fixed by the devs themselves?

[golden scaffold]

no, they want it that way

[sick monolith]

perceptively it must be darker but you won't crush shadows

[sharp moon]

In other games rr doesn't impact performance this much he'll sometimes it give lil bit more fps in cyberpunk

[lucid thorn]

👀 Interesting

[scenic adder]

Because most other games don't change and enable this much stuff when you turn RR on

[outer furnace]

because turning on RR turns on way more than just that, the menu isnt very transparent regarding that

[lucid thorn]

Can you run the windows hdr calibrating tool?

Also what's your brightness set at

[flint moss]

Oh I see, and p1000 doesnt ig?

[lucid thorn]

I've been running true black and haven't noticed any crushed anything yet

[fresh smelt]

the newest reno mod is pretty sick

[trim oasis]

Does it happen to anyone else that Windows detects the file as a virus? Sorry, I'm new.

[lucid thorn]

Yes

[flint moss]

I haven't noticed either but tbf I don't really know what to look for. Perhaps for the best 😂

[lucid thorn]

Perhaps!

[upper sun]

my defender doesnt give a crap about the addon for some reason KEKW~7

[sick monolith]

let me word it properly, hdr 1000 is perceptively a darker image due to the contrast from 0 - 1000 nits. but in this mode you dont get a lot of shadow crushing since the full 1000 nits is not compressed to 400 @flint moss

it's "washed" but not crushed

[flint moss]

Ooh I get it ty! I did swap now to p1000 in a cave, I can definitely see that blacks aren't crushed as much 🤯

[lucid thorn]

What if I don't notice a difference between 1000 and true black 🤔

[trim oasis]

Does anyone have an LG G2 to give me some tips on its HDR settings in the game?

[deft pulsar]

shouldnt affect that

[flint moss]

Om seeing stuff in the shadows now lol

[flint moss]

Ok im tripping? 😂

[deft pulsar]

it should only affect how brights the highlights are, in an ideal scene

[lucid thorn]

Fixed his colours so much it changed even his perception

[crude marsh]

lets see if multiplying the lights by 100 works

[deft pulsar]

minimum brightness is still 0 nits in peak 1000 hdr

it only changes, well as the name says, peak brightness

[sick monolith]

i'll try to find the video sec

[deft pulsar]

peak 1000 generally refers to the 2% window

[lucid thorn]

😭

[deft pulsar]

so highlights like torches, stars, fireflies

[crude marsh]

ok multiplying lights definitely works

[deft pulsar]

lmao that house catching on fire

[crude marsh]

time to hand tune the values

[karmic quest]

quick, get the water buckets

[lucid thorn]

Is the work your doing gonna be in its own mod or 👀