#Crimson Desert - CHECK PINS FOR ADDON
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So at silky smooth 20 fps
i dont get 60 fps but 46-50 with VRR its fine for me
idk how you play sub 60fps even 60fps to low for me
Native is ass most of the time cause it uses Taa anti aliasing
i can enable the FSR 4 but i think it makes the foliage looks a little worse in motion more blurrier so i have upscallers all off using the Native AA ( basically DLAA)
from amd
Probably could push 60 with lowering model to ultra and volumetric fog to high
using the one from the FSR 4
think its the same as the nvidia DLAA
Which gpu
it kinda taxing it takes about 8-10 fps compared to native TAA
Not needed
Except somehow in avatar
but i put some LS scalling on top of that and it feels like 60+ now
You push plus 15 gb
But I basically got my 5080 for "free" so I can't complain
Literally less than cyberpunk with path tracing , dlss p, and frame gen
Crazy
for me it crazy how little vram this game is using
@modest hatch not needed ? i max out 16gb of vram in many game
its been literally made for 8gb gpus
VRAM or ram
vram
I don’t personally idk
It is very much needed in some games if you plan on cranking up things in stuff like U+
Played rdr 2, crimson desert, cyberpunk
and somehow still looks v sharp except the foliage sometimes can look a litle noisy and blurry sometimes not always.
All max settings
@modest hatch rdr2 and crimson are not good example they dont hog vram i play modded cyberpunk im maxing out 16gb in no time not even pusing max texture
ya me to lol, i even manage to max out my 24gb vram gpu pretty often in my Skyrim Nolvus V6 mod pack playing on the ultimate preset with mostly 4k textures.
@quartz flame ya nolvus gonna use all that vram
waiting for next gens gpus hope to get one with 32gb vram
it max out my 5070ti pretty fast
even stalker gamma with bunch of visual mod use 14-15gb of vram lol its a 20 years old engine
ya its crazy i heard it even max out some 5090, in some busy cities they where getting about 30.5gb vram usage there 😂
honestly i was shocked how fast i maxed 16gb vram the day i installed my new gpu so many game was close to maxing
some users i know said in the Nolvus V6 discord page they where getting about a little over 30gb vram usage sometimes.
@quartz flame thats crazy
And it still looks pretty bad lol
ya i was thinking maybe maybe to get a 9070XT just to have access on the FSR 4 and that Ray Regen denoiser
but after they leaked the FSR4 int 8 dll
no way in hell im gaving up my 24gb vram gpu for a 16gb now.
????????????????
actually i hope to get a 32gb gpu next gen
@sleek veldt whats up the game is a noisy mess of cours you got noise
i stopped looking into the annoying stuff i wont enjoi the game if i keep focusing on how shitty some elements are 😅
from what i played so far 10h ,this game for the most part looks fck great, but i really wish they add a better dennoiser, sometimes it can looks a little blurry on the folliage when the wind blows in it especyally i noticed more.
dont get me wrong i played 20h so far absolutly liking the game more and more but there so many visual quirk that annoy me ahah but it does look really good in some instance its just when you start focusing on the detail you see all the nasty stuff
ya true indoors also have the most probs sometimes with shadows flickering bad,atifacting
but outdooers especyally when its sunny bright day outside looks great
ya but its mostly the lod pop in and distant lod look absolutly terrible
dont know what happend there why so many npc in column?
ya i dont focus on that at all
oh i know i dont either but i know its there ahah
i watching mostly the folliage sometimes it looks v sharp but other time can looks a little blurry and noisy when wind blows into it.
Actually it looks great as long as there are no buildings around with low res shadows everywhere. We need better shadow LOD
ya think ur right on this
with some minor tuning this could be the best looking open world game arround think.
graphics wise i mean.
If looks great to me, now RenoDX saved it
The problem is the track record of this company. Black Desert graphics issues weren't fixed. So let's see if they decide to do something here
sadly RenoDX for me it got bugged i had to unnistall the game, even after i unnistall the addon from reshade it still had completely mess up my game, it made it looks very pixelated and oversharpen.
this could be from win def also second day i started the game i got a not it deleted the addon file
so something maybe got mess up in that process
@quartz flame exclude the CD folder from antivirus
i see at least here i see they working very fast, kinda impressive how fast they releasing fixed and adding new things.
like storage chest and other minor stuff
i did that but the second day i fire up the game it quarantined that file again lol.
if you restore the file it should not pick it up again
i did restore the file at first ,then add it as an expection into win 11 defender
but second day i started the game it still flag it as a virus
win 11 defender its extremely agressive on the most minor stuff arround
@quartz flame you added it as an exclusion like this?
hmm only the addon file i added there
not the game lol
i frg to add the game also
try to add the whole folder
ya will prob try again next time will gave it one more chance with the game folder to added there.
done ^^
they optimized the game like crazy to work on 8gb gpus
game even on max cinematic settings at 4k native
barely using 8-9 gb vram
very rare to see this in 2026 lol
and somehow the textures still looks decent
thats why we have that pop in think
@quartz flame what is impressive is how stable the framerate is though no stutter no drop nothign
They went abysmally too far that it's come at the cost of visual quality
And since they slapped on denuvo it's even harder for them to reverse engineer this shit
How did u apply custom res for DLSS? DLSStweaks and NVPI wont cut it for me
i only use nvpi
For some reason it wont work for me, mind to share a screenshot of the config, I must be doing something wrong
i just tried k,m, and l for dlaa
ya true with so many npc on screen also.
there is no point in m or especially l, for dlaa
For me even with RR preset K runs faster, 3ms latency against L
from what i saw so far some benchmarks on yt, all the upscallers including DLLS 4. 4.5 makes the imagine a little more blurry compared to DLAA
for M ofc there is, L is too heavy
the old transformer still has a bunch of artifacts with volumetrics n stuff
not for dlaa
shit looks awful
When using RR, it overrides the upscaling preset and uses its own
yeah but id rather run 90% M than 100% K
there is no artifacts in dlaa, maybe some ghosting
... there is
no there isnt i just did this for over an hour
perhaps not in this game kek
if anything m is a little noisy sometimes
if you run RR set preset D it fix some issue that preset E has
I have terrible smudgy pixelated shadows in-doors even with DLAA and 4.5 L, only RR rectifies it. RR performance has to be improved
@daring orbit isnt preset M better to use with performance or ultra perf? if your using quality or dlaa preset K is still the best looking and best performance
without RR ofc
there is no "better"
you can use M at any % level and it looks great
ue5 seems be made for upscaling, this game, no not so much
its just a matter of what is your gpu because its hard to run if you dont have like a 4080/90 or 50 series gpu since those have the accelleration for it
nvidia just wants you to use perf mode with M because older gpus get cucked and they dont want the shitstorm xd
id have to try but i use RR anyway so preset D for me
i dont know whats going on with this game an the water reflections, with upcaling
RR rain is absolutly borked
Wanted to test 77% but it just refuse to accept it
77 sr or rr
im talking about without rr, rr seems to fix the reflections
if i could run rr with dlss quality, id do that
It just make them sharper
but im not playing this game at 50-60fps
RR
not good as in
Low gpu utilization
@daring orbit ? what ur gpu base 45-50 fps will get you really smooth gameplay with fg
mine loaded 100% even fg on
hm weird
Im.getting like 45-50x2
I think so
gotta update those driver lol
Mine was hitting 70-80% before the recent patch now its maxing out
Really odd honestly
seems oge
I usually do this in DLSStweaks in all other games it works
I use optiscaler
Get better results with it?
Idk
oh yeah optiscaler could work
@daring orbit you amd?
Tried, it wont work, so weird
I meant this if there's better results on CD at least
M/L fixing volumetrics is nice though
frfr
Are you using special k or something?
Well I’m getting pretty nice fps and latency so I guess someone decided I get enough lol
Nope
How can you tell that its not working?
Indicator shows me
The dlss overlay shows it no?
Oh i never use that
Its a bit annoying but it does what its supposed to
Yea
What are using to see that
can use dlss swapper or registry
dlssindicator
Alright ill see if new drivers help
Holy you were right, chapter 7 was a banger
Huh yea fg definitely works better now
I moved to 575.79 from 581.94, its the best
On what resolution do you guys play that RR is enjoyable? im playing on a 4k Monitor with a 4090 and im getting dizzy when turning the camera around
What's your fps?
Yea this seems like a good driver, but ill have to see some other games
Before i can say
Yeah how else am i supposed to run rr? lol
@daring orbit lastest nvidia driver really good immo
@sly niche drop dlss to quality or balanced lol
Lol dlss quality with rr is really good
@daring orbit yea i mean 5070ti i cant run dlaa with RR no way 60fps frame gen on feel like shit
Im able to run quality at 110-120 fg so cant ask for better
I set it on Balanced but still 50 real FPS
i can run everything maxed with RR dlss quality frame gen on at 2k and does not dip under 85-90 so pretty good
on a 4080 but im not sold yet on rr, dlaa with no fg and a 100 real frames, feels better than rr and x2 110ish
I mean whatever its not cs go
5080 here running rr on balanced and for the first time ever I bumped frame gen from 2x to 3x and I'm running around between 115fps to 130fps. I was quite surprised that artifacting or increased latency hasn't rlly been an issue running 3x as I'm not the biggest fan of frame gen in general.
Fg is in a good spot nowadays
Im sure a 50 series card is better at fg
I've finally settled on rr over dlss 4.0 @ Dlaa as of tonight
Im not sure yet
I can't stand constantly switching all the setting Everytime I go indoors
I think i just want to play sekiro uw hdr at 130 real fps
Sekiro the GOAT
Khazans aight i didnt enjoy the combat tbh
Also id just like to throw this out real quick, I been on the RenoDX and Ultra+(I know Laz is in here) for a long time now but the level up with this one is really cool to see. Good stuff Jon and Forge, thank God for Reno and Ultra saving gaming!!
Well it definitely gets more challenging
Lazor close to giving up on this one it's actually breaking him LMAO
But its fair
That individual always says stuff like that for every game they work on
Eh i dont care much for a challenge i dont usually have issues id rather it just be fun for me
Oh fair enough LOL
Ive never used a U+ mod tbh
Ya I've been following his comments in here lol. He's my guy either way 🤘
Well its good
Its like reno dx i always check if its available
If your into pushing graphical fidelity in games or even just seeing what real optimization can get you with improved visuals than your truly missing out by never experiencing what U+ team does. To me it's literally game changing stuff in line with how Reno fixes HDR
They mostly do UE5 game improvement
Game releases for me go, game drops, I start checking for Reno and U+ like an addict until they pop and then I play said game. Everytime
Whats some substantial u+ games
They do dabble around in some other games but generally full mod releases and updates come exclusively to fix UE5 stuff.
Oblivion Remake
E33 is vastly improved
Feel like my issue is i usually just play em on release 😭
Elder scrolls oblivion was a gnarly transform with ray tracing, uhhhh wuchang, uhhh honestly just all the UE5 games over the past year or two
Wuchang with PT was great
Ahh fair dont play too many ue5 games honestly
Check their discord out and all the games in their
or wait not PT but hardware lumen
It's extensive
I'm having a hard time focusing RN but literally every UE5 game they touch is "WoW 😮" level stuff
Swaggy thanks
I recommend black myth wukong
Finished it ages ago LOL
I literally went back for a full ng+ just to experience wukong in U+ form
You just have to see what they do for yourself
That game got robbed
I would've put rebirth and metaphor above wuking anyways even if astro didnt win
Hello! When i used renodx on add-ons need disabled generic depth and effect runtime sync? I ask for Crimson desert
Yeah go for it
To each their own. I'm a certified souls and souls like junkie so to someone like me it should've been wukong but all good
Ya turn off depth and runtime sync
Im sick of soulslikes at this point LOL
Ok thank you
I'm sick of almost nothing truly scratching my souls like itch the way fromsoft does but I get what you mean.
I just need more "difficult" games in my life. As I've started to get older, when I can pretty quickly out maneuver a game to become overpowered i lose interest quickly. Cranking difficulty setting to create spongier enemies doesn't do it for me either.
Anywho, have a good night everyone 👋
I wonder if the Reno team could add an option to make the sky darker at night. Its so bright
Think thats the game bugging out ^^
Nights are really dark in this game, compared to others.
Should HDR be turned on ingame or left off?
Thanks
I love Fromsoft games but I can only play them once.
Unlike Nioh series which I always go back to
Same im usually a play it once type too
Very few games i play through multiple times
i usually beat all bosses and grab all achievments then leave for good
Me and some friends tend to play the "Seamless coop mod" for Elden Ring, every weekend or now and then.
You can do all questlines entirely together and shares progression for character/world for all players (it runs without EAC & has separate saves).
Can play the expansion as well, would totally recommend it. 🙏
is there a install guide for crimson desert somewhere ?
Guys anything that should be redone after updating the game or will the mod work?
i installed the reshade with every addon whats the next step ?
You dont need every addon. You just need to install it, put this file that is pinned next to the exe of the game and then open reshade menu ingame and change settings as you please
i dont see the pinned file
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got it thank you so much
@hardy owl should I update to the latest renodx file or is it fine to use the older one?
Depends on how "old" we are talking, I used the one from early yesterday.
The current new one has a lot more additions and fixes, personally would update it.
(I picked the one from RenoDX Github).
Link to their GitHub please
Thanks a lot
I liked previous version more, new one is too dark even though the settings are same
any chance we can adjust tessellation/parallax occlusion?
besides using the Model Quality setting
They are adding a fix to the autoexposure in the mod soon. This will fix the bright nights.
they are trying to reinvent the wheel on cinematic settings
How do u guys capture screenshot in hdr? My screenshot are way overexposed
- Steam Screenshots (does have pretty aggressive compression).
- Reshade screenshot (check the reshade settings tab)
If you use reshade and renoDX just press the reshade screenshot button
Took both of them a frame apart - Reshade is on the left (12.3mb - PNG), Steam is on the right (1.05mb - JPG).
left is hdr, right is sdr
No way. Seriously? That's awesome
Steams "external copy" of screenshots also saves them as png, not just jpg
Yes you can use this mod:
https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/1?tab=description
Effect #15 PARALLAX OCCLUSION MAPPING (LESS)
thank you, I'm gonna try that
latest-autoex(off) -> latest-autoex(on) -> previous-version
This one is really good, nicer than seeing them visually pop-in.
i like previous version more, all settings are same
Autoexposure setting didnt make it into the latest build. That option only disables auto white balance currently.
ooh i need to check that
oh thats why it making it too yellow
My god the auto exposure is driving me insane lol. I can't handle the whole screen dimming everytime I look at a cliff face even though it's mid afternoon on a sunny day in game.
Are you using the new reno
Yea it is awful in this game. Next build will probably have auto exposure fixed.
Yes
Hmmm
Idk why I never noticed it until today and I immediately thought something was going on with my TV. I have an S90C that I modded to disable the ABL.
I will definitely wait until next build drops 👍
so the autoexposure is what makes the nights brights?
Yes
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Nice set of features there, may I know if there is a way I can try out as well? I see some RT, SS Reflection and shadow improvments, where I can get those?
That was just a video from Forge who is working on the mod. I was just sharing it.
ohh cool looking forword for that
HOLY SHIT
where to get and enable the hdr analysis ya?
do you know if its coming soon?
the fix I mean.
I dont know when but forge mentioned earlier that he was close to fixing it. I'm assuming it will be in the next build to so maybe later today.
awesome, its crazy that the developers made so many mistakes
I was so excited for dark nights when I saw the Digital Foundry preview and so far nights have been so dissapointing
yeah same i thought it would be like dragons dogma
Yea, thank god for the awesome people who fix these terrible mistakes from the devs
nights still look nice tho it reminds me of witcher 3 nights. not very realistic but it does have a fantastical feel
They look fine but it makes no sense that its 3 am and the sky is bright blue lol
in a game like this, night time must be immersive imo.
yep there are times where night looks like day time 😂
Well they ctrl c + ctrl v'ed the sun values then slapped on a moon texture
No wonder the moon is just a white blob
install the lilium HDR analysis
what? for real? 
is the fix for the nightime coming soon Forge? I am thinking to stop playing just to wait for it lol
Latter today
Thanks a lot man! I will donate another tip for all the wonderful job you are doing
how to adjust the size?
In the Home tab you'll find lilium_hdr_and_sdr_analysis settings
found it thanks!
Hey guys ! wich renoDX build is the last one ? github or the one pinned ? maybe they're the same ?
probably the same just take the pinned one
Ok thanks, i have the one on github, but my grass look a bit.. oversaturated with recommanded graphic settings, is this intended ?
correct
grass is neon green in vanilla, you could apply a reshade mod for colors or desaturate
Just a question, do I need to run maximum settings for the mod work correctly?
Ok will try the visual redux for HDR
hi guys ! new here where can i find the download link - thanks !
i found that the antispecular antialiasing somehow breaks the terrain shadows
check pinned messages
i'll post an example when i can
Do you guys have any recommandations for a reshade preset good for HDR with Reno ?
hmm, that does work, but I was hoping I could disable the tessellation while retaining the parallax.
I think the game normally uses tessellation for model quality Medium and higher, for Low it just uses parallax and for Minimum drops even the parallax.
this is "Model Quality" Cinematic + Shader Toggle vs Low vs Minimum
if you look at the wall and roof the Cinematic + shader toggle looks much closer to Minimum than it does to Low.
though using the shader toggle on Low and Minimum has no effect, so it's probably the game itself that disables the parallax when going to Medium and higher
you don't need any reshade presets (that are often not compatible with HDR)
you can adjust everything to your liking within renodx itself
"fuck the intended art style" and it's just removing any ounce of colour 😭
Deeply unserious
sharpening 100 
the game is so blurry even with 100... usually in most games i have sharpen off completely but here i just...
Can this mod be used together with the ReShade preset I’m currently using?
It has a certain bluriness innately but it doesn't look bad imo
At like proper dlss quality
its not bluriness from the game, its ray reconstruction artifacts everywhere making the image look... yikes
why is the hair so ugly sometime the texture just goes poof
Thats a diff thing
turn that sharpening off immediately
game uses an awful sharpening algorithm
use anything else
using save external screenshot as AVIF does help?
isn't reno sharpening RCAS?
this one in CD is the ingame vanilla one
cooked
i just have it on 0 and use Rcas shader instead
ye
I'm using RCAS, good morning Laz
That contrast 60 and saturation 60 is personnal taste or recommended ? Mines are at 50 with reset
Yeah that setting has some scenes where it is obvious why they used it
50 is current
this guy got it working perfectly
"true color" cranks saturation to 1000
fortunately the entire screen is eye cancer here
i wish i could use it on sdr as theres no other mod giving opottion to disable shaepemning and other effects
dunno if any amount of modding can fix this artifacting 
you can
maybe i'm wrong but i think you can
Remember early Toussaint vibes in Witcher 3
Is it just me or did the renodx mod mute the grass a bit (I really like this because it was oversaturated af)
i think this is new update i have tried the prwevious one and it doesnt work if hdr ios not on in game and i dont use hdr my monitor is normal high refresh ips panel
Jon said he fixed the SDR issue
k let me try this version. can i use it with special k?
the newest changes a lot of stuff in a good way
do you have an example? I didn't change any settings yet like I usually do, just hit the recommended button 
should be able to? in the past SK had some issues with reno though
think it works ok now
it does yes
its been working pretty good lately with my games that have reno
Has anyone noticed how bad evening looks in this game? I dont know if its autoexposure or what but it looks flat, light there is no lighting
I kinda assume this has been posted, but wow
i hate you.... i cannot unsee this
working as expected
feature not a bug
thats their SSRTGI
that has been layered on top
forge.fix when
i honestly started ignoring bullshit like this in this game, building pop in, rocks pop in grass pop in, they just dont give a fuck
it might also be a contact shadow issue
I did see they will randomly draw in very close to the camera
fukkkkkkkk
I replaced all their slop sky scattering code
INNNNNNNAZZZZENNN COLOURS
Please show screenshots
I mean there's no direct sunlight so it's just illuminated by the sky scattering. I think it looks quite pleasing.
@faint bobcat Is it intendend to be like this? Specular antialiasing makes some parts "brigher"
i get this message when loading the game and no renodx addon loaded in reshade?
Check your defender
Windows Defender likely quarantined/removed the addon.
as i was launching game
Forge did something change with auto exposure between initial release and current available build? I don't remember my whole screen dimming all crazy depending on where I'm looking originally...
As of rn I can't even play because the auto exposure looks like my TV has abl issues
Huh ok
I will review
the addoon not working after File recovery from windows defender
Reshade log
14:16:06:154 [16140] | ERROR | Failed to load add-on from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Crimson Desert\bin64\renodx-crimsondesert.addon64' with error code 4556!
pls fix it
its defender
Pls fix what lmao
😭
Yesterday I was playing normally today can't
i can confirm it was bitdefender that was removing and preventing it from working

Pretty wild how noisy RR gets with DLSS Upscaling, let alone the boiling effect with RT alone (rasterized is even worse somehow).
this is because they didnt use RR for denoising some of the GI
lmao 😄
wtf
based
I do like the white/grey glow but damn it kills everything else lmao
they use some INNNNNAZZNEEE temporal reprojection for sky shaders
its why everything ghosts like a mf
not just the clouds?
I would pay to see how dogshit the clouds are without it
Man this looks so much more atmospheric. I cant wait for the mod lol
what if
I replace with Aloy's Adventures Nubis cloud system

Wot are those
Ahhhh
I can use their technique
Aloys Adventures lmao
they have 3 papers on a system called Nubis
Never played em honestly LMAO
which is their volumetric clouds technique
Aloy's game frenzy
Thats cool tho at least
I tried playing and then kind of hated her face and then the forced sharpening was so intense I couldn't take it
Laz you guys aren't working on anything for U+ and CD right?
have you seen me post in here for the past 4 days
there are 2 options, png or jpeg xl. jpeg xl is smaller files, but i can see it better brightness tho. whats best hdr wise, keep png or use jxl?
I didn't see anything pop up initially but I haven't snooped around recently
I have been trying but this game is just
actual pain
everything has to be reverse engineered and they made it very difficult to do so
and everything is also very poorly made
I just didn't know if you were just contributing to anything over here or going crazy working on something with U+
I did release a modding tool for unpacking and repacking files though
which has resulted in some mods so
consider that U+ contribution
is there any way to make it work on SDR?
I thought you were meaning the Lego Horizon game and thought wow those must be some good clouds 🙃
I am using the RDR2 camera mod which is great. Probably it was made thanks to your tools?
ye at least spark them getting made pretty quickly
now folks are releasing better browsers and stuff
which is cool
guys, you have any idea why the game displays only one of two dldsr resolutions? Only 2.25x, not 1.78x. that's weird
no matter what I do, the 1.78 one doesn't show up in the game options
try typing it into the config file
ok, let me find the path
Camera mod is great, hope the zooming issues on horse gets fixed
Have also been wanting 1.78x, haven't found a solution unfortunately. Hopefully custom res mods comes soon
oh OK, so it just isn't supported for some reason
Seems that way yes
I believe someone had said typing into the config might work but idk
only one way to find out
Eh -- XeFG working hard 😅 Detects the whole damn thing as a UI
Expected?
you can also just do this
Last time I seen another cursed hud detection like this was CP2077
Looking good, very cinematic. 🙂
Expected
That is what they consider "hudless" in all FG methods
Only includes the entire hud
Speaking of HUD, it would be really cool for a mod that lets you change when certain HUD elements are hidden & shown on screen.
Knowing all the pain the devs here developing RenoDX has gone through, can't imagine that would be easy let alone possible due to the engine?
I have absolutely no experience with this game engine, and it definitely seems troublesome.
So its a all or nothing, correct?
To each his own but that Shit looks like The Sound Of Music. I like 55
unfortunately people still think HDR is supposed to look like RTX HDR
what if
we cranked contrast and saturation to 100
THIS IS SO HDR BRO
To be fair the obsession with IRL accurate colours is just as insane
The fuck do you mean you hate any type of colour
tastefully applied colors
53-55 is chill tho for sure
Cool 50 / Vivid mode gamers
can we pin ts until it's added to reno
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Can I force local light LODs here????
me wonders
@crude marsh
They have a InjectEmitterLodLightsCS
That's why I always tend to put RTX HDR last when comparing them, while Auto HDR is better its not far off (in a bad way).
Are essentially filters, its like using Reshade and enabling "fakeHDR" - bumps the contrast/saturation - doesn't mean its in a good way lol.
I was actually so surprised how much better the game looks with the sharpening removed.
Sharpening is the bane of this games existence
I disagree. LOD is the ultimate issue
Nahhh i just ignore it
is this related to all of the lights appearing to change constantly
Hi, I have a question. Why does the mod also seem to affect the colour/hue of the game?
I know I can change it, but any reason why the default setup changes the hue?
because the default is ass
that doesnt really answer anything
vanilla does some bad things
like using ACESv2
bad white balance
wrong colors for fire
among other things
By default, the mod changes the tonemapper and some other stuff, hence the difference. If you prefer to use something closer to the original, basically every change should be configurable in the menu
I'm aware I can change it, I was just curious over why the recommended setting goes for a warmer tone. Thanks
so it does appear they atleast somewhat fixed that issue. The shaders changed with 1.0.0.3 update that handled that and the flickerin on grass and co is all gone
lights disappearing is just abysmal LODs
They are telling you why, the modders themselves think it looks bad lol, what else do you want them to say
let me see what I can do in this shader
turning off the white balance takes a lot of the overdone blue out which is one of the more significant changes
all of the lights in the game are pink in vanilla which is incorrect
vanilla also manages to be both crushed and significantly overbright
this swaps the entire tonemapper out to something different that doesnt have so many issues
among fixing some other things individually
That comment of mine you are quoting literally implies "I understand"
and ends with a "thanks"
Its an answer if you dont care about the specifics
Which in this case he clearly wanted to know more
in terms of the final version of reno, it is still up for changes
the final version is also going to be capable of changing a lot more like auto exposure and the sky
the moon
Jon specifically added a vanilla preset button for this reason, if you prefer vanilla hues and all but just want a better tonemapper use that
Do you think the vanilla autoexposure is bugged? The footage from Digital foundry showed darker nights in general
autoexposure clearly doesnt work well so
its not bugged
its working as expected
DF only showed one area
that was dark
thats it
that doesnt mean anyuthing
BDO also has 'dark' areas
that just crush to shit
as expected is still bad though
Well they implied that the game had darker nights in general as a feature
The answer to your question, mainly cause warmer is closer to the accurate perception of white colour from the light coming off your screen, compared to blue which results in colder looking colours that in turn causes the rest to look inaccurate (cinematic-like).
True. Their credibility is getting worse everytime
Dude I was watching df video and they didn’t mention any of the issues and talked about it like it’ll be graphics of the year
We have access to game shader code and can see everything, DF only has the unreliable narrator that is Pearl Abyss dev team

not comparable
Why does dsr feels laggy? Getting 90fps but "stutters" like crazy
Alex didn't criticize almost anything, he didn't mention the LOD issues or the problems with Ray Reconstruction etc.
normal DSR? I mean you simply increased your base render resolution. Is that 90fps with Framegen on?
Using dlss perf no framegen
well, its more like they only built the GI to work with ray reconstruction but yeah lol
If you use normal, old school DSR, you're simply increasing your base resolution so performance will drop. Naturally.
should tell you much you can trust "reviewers"
you have to find the crazy people in discord to know the truth
then again.. better to be ignorant
they have _maxLodIndex_lodLightFlag
and a flag that skips some lighting

what if
maybe I remove le flag
and we get perfect light LODs
wouldnt that be a sight
this might be it
this contains draw distance block data

lets see
it might blow up the game if increased
Anyone else noticed that loading is very quick (2-3 secs) if you stand on waypoint to teleport (skips teleporting animation)? Anyone here can guess whether it is possible to mod the game to skip fancy but pointless animation?
ahh @crude marsh
So the game can only support 32768 lights in the manylights buffer. Once full all additional lights are silently dropped.
I have not noticed that, but I've never tried. Now i'm quite curious.
crimson desert ue5 when 
yeah, stand directly on a waypoint, and teleport to other waypoint, you'll get black screen instead of animation, and it will be very quick
I wouldn't be suprised if they have some stupid dependency on FPS during loading animation that gets skipped with black screen loading
@faint bobcat you needed this still?
yes
ty
unfortunately, shadows are cooked at source in the shadowmaps themselves
we need 8192 to fix
Ive never done that but that just sounds annoying LOL
not 1024 like vanilla
do you have decomp.exe with working SV_ShadingRate?
I have some shaders that cant decomp because of it
one moment please

example of quick tp
are the shadowmaps really 1024 with cinematic settings? holy hell
what, not even that stun locked state after you arrive where you can't move for a few seconds
imagine how hard DF would've glazed this game if they actually didn't implement the teleporting animation... they would've said how ITS LIGHTNING QUICK
exactly, just stun lock is longer than the black screen tp
thats wild. Well, until there is a mod to remove the whole animation (assuming that it can be), in most cases it will still be faster to TP normally if you're far away from a fast travel point
I promise guys, release soon, one more shader
is the addon working right now?
Since friday, yep
their motion blur is the following
- per object motion blur
- camera motion blur
- background defocus blur
Btw thanks @faint bobcat @mortal wolf and @crude marsh for helping us
I saw a bunch of motion blur in the render passes
thank you @pearlabyss
At work rn though
hm, they arent in this discord.
can we just keep per obect motion blur and nuke the others
they could learn a lot if they were
I think the game is actually great, its just the technical aspect that sucks
Should invite them! 
i wonder how many devs are here, cant be many
gotta lose the ego to take advice from discord users
I think that too, then I remember that I played Skyrim on PS3 and I feel better about it
That was quite a unique experience ngl.
wtf?
how can it be that quick?
when I load a save, even if it's the same one I just loaded, it takes almost a whole minute
he skipped the forced animation
I think the engine can manage those fast loading times but then again, they kneecapped it for HDD support maybe?

lets see
I am jumping betrween tasks
like a child in a candy store
only this is the slop store
Imagine them watching these guys rip the game 😭
it's work yesterday but today After the addon was removed by Windows Defender, I couldn't get work it in any way.
Turn off windows defender
reinstall Reshade
reinstall the addon
and still have same error the addon not loading with 4556 code
Allegedly.
only you're the technician that needs to fix the broken ac unit and not the child buying the candy

stand on a waypoint and teleport to other waypoint as i did in the video and it will be as quick for you
perhaps someone will figure out how to fool the game to skip animation always
he mentioned both
He also mentioned the no rain thing
you need to add an exception in windows security for the games directory. If you download the addon again, sometimes if you're not quick it'll nab it right in your Downloads folder. I found having your downloads folder and the games bin64 folder open next to eachother and just being quick with it was fine. if not, you may have to temporarily add your downloads folder to the exception list as well.
If its not removing the file from your games directory and you're still getting an error, thats unique to you.
I'm just guessing here, but maybe in the early stages of development you could only tp from one waypoint to another?
and not via the map
it should be feasible I think recalling the renderpass config
maybe I can just release a mod that nukes some post processing....
but reno be doing that already so
I would say it's more likely there was no TP at all as it was meant to be an mmo and BDO doesn't have it either. I'm still kinda surprised we have one at all. They have always had a strong stance against TPing
Ngl im actually loving the game, started seeing past all the jank
Same
Positives outweigh the cons to me aha
It actually seems to be getting better and better as opposed getting less good and tiring over time (Witcher3)
I am too but I do wonder if it would have been worth waiting a couple of months for the most polished experience
Oh, jank aside i'm fully addicted. I only just started chapter 4 last night after 35 hours so i'm taking it real slow.
That's always what I do, but this time I was just too hyped as a former bdo junkie 
my friend and i have same error and we try to exception game folder and Downloads folder and try to Download the addon directly on game folder and still same error
It always is
But the thing is..
in BDO they had a heavy monetary incentive to not allow tp, to upsell you on horses
yeah, it is.
teleported from the abyss to a part of the map I haven't even been to in this current session and it takes 3 seconds.
loading a save from that location while already there takes 48 seconds.
A lot of my friends are super into playing this game rn. Missing out on talking about it as you all experience it would be a shame
Very unforunate.
Right, I've never had that before. Usually it starts off strong and then just goes downhill, usually im bored after 50h. Im at 40h now and im just liking it more and more
Agreed
You can say that but they literally gave out free divine horses eventually. It's not hard and it was never hard to get a good horse in the game at any point. The horse endgame is expensive and is only a kind of unnecessary thing like legendary crafting is in GW2 it's literally just vanity
Same pretty much after 40. Still have like half of hernand left to explore
Like this https://x.com/i/status/2036236189540536341
I ran into those last night. I was at night so I never saw then paint, but there's actually a second way to push these things
At night I noticed there was a little uh.. Symbol? Feet high. So I kicked it and it also worked. Added a funny level of world building
@faint bobcat just a quick question if you have a mn to spare can you go on wuwa chan ? i post a bug i have with reno i tried a bunch of things but nothing work.... thanks dude
Not allowing you to TP stood the test of time as a major design decision that infuenced how the game plays, and it was never about the money making. Money making is mostly on enhancement and cosmetics
I actually refunded it. don't want to pay 70 euros for an early access game
3 patches and they have been fixing so much stuff
BDO being the only mmo I know of that does not have a TP is actually what makes it so different in a good way. It doesnt feel right to have it in CD either although it seems on the conservative side. They should totally have given us storage boxes from the start that was just weird
This is a take
It's a fair take. Get it later on discount when it's actually patched up
It does feel like early access can't deny
Oh definitely a valid take, sorry if I made it sound otherwise
Feels more like old school game design than early access, but maybe there's a crossover :p
Definetely needs patching up, playing any game early is ussually making a slight disservice to yourself
technical side feels early access, but seems so broken idek if they can even fix it tbh
Before they fixed that haha
gameplay side aside from a lock-on system and proper mount taming doesnt need too much work imo
Imo it's more that it's designed for low end hardware more. Yeah there's obvious things we're poking at trying to brute force but they did it so a wide range of systems can run it at decent performance, it's all a trade off right?
I'm watching Asmon doing the devil of reed field in ch3 I'm not even there yet, but this feels and looks so peak brings me back to bdo in all the right ways. Something about the world design and atmosphere I love so much I can't describe what it is
Sorry to hear you have to watch asmon
This is the first game in awhile I've genuinely found myself just walking around :p
The melee auto lock-on and the game deciding who it targets is a bit frustrating at times.
If it had a manual lock with lets say joystick click, and whichever is closest to your crosshair/character would prioritise the lock.
Game design in different parts of the world is funny sometimes
Asmon shits on the game constantly but seems addicted nonetheless lol
Almost made me pull my hair he completely ignored dlaa and/or RR just runs the game raw and plays in crushed SDR nobody can see shit at night lmao
yeah but a greatly optimized game is supposed to scale with hardware
he's gotta shit on everything, thats kinda his schtick
Yeah it's triggering to watch him play as usual as well but there were many funny moments
kneecapping max settings for wider support is pointless
He didnt even turn on RR he's just rawdogging the game
No dlaa
Nothing
"looks fine" "it's a little dark" 
There's definitely some decisions but the game does have moments where it looks good Imo
I agree, thats why it sucks. So inconsistent
sometimes it looks amazing, sometimes it's PS3
Somebody that actually had horrible takes was Moist.
"I haven't done any adventuring in my adventure game. This game sucks"
Bruh
Mr critical?
Mhm
Damn I thought he was cool
He should just uninstall and not force himself to play a game he doesn't enjoy. He has a tendency to speedrun games this is just not for him
He's all about "beating games" is from what I figured
This is true for a lot of folks
Ah yeah good luck doing that I guess
No hes just genuinely ill
He can't read
For asmon that is, i dont think ive seen critical play games tbh
If you want a good streamer I think CohhCarnage might actually be kinda real deal
Cohh has good moments
Seems he understands good parts and people that hate/love it well
He's also making a game
So he might be a little more aware of some nitty gritty stuff
Yeah and that looks dope too
I think Cohh is kinda what pirate wanted to be.
Shots fired 
Cohh is super chill, maximillian i think as well
Honestly its crazy how many are calling the game trash and are shitting on those that enjoy it. Just let people enjoy something and stop being a bitch
Internet has fried their brains completely
I call the game trash, I don't stop ppl from enjoying it, I am
Pirate is an odd one haha
Can confirm
a game can be garbage and is still enjoyable, they aren't the same thing
While I think someone like Cohh might have the best takes and best stream to watch if you wanna be serious about it but honestly, I prefer to watch "the junk food" stream which is Asmongold.
Total dogshit at the game, doesn't read anything, trying to bruteforce everything, rage baiting viewers, doing everyting wrong and behaving like a goblin, I mean come on, it's fucking hilarious 
I'm not big on streamer culture unfortunately 😂
Also crimson desert now at 3 million sales
I so hope it does well and we get more
Sdr and hdr have similar saturation levels, you’re probably using a super uncalibrated SDR mode. Theres a saturation slider in renodx if you really want to amp it up.
Yeah I lowered the default Reno saturation to 50 it's enough for me, wtf you mean there's not enough colors?
168k concurrent players on Steam alone (205k 24 hour peak).
Its really good, especially when comparing to a big title such as RE9 which sold 5 million in 5 days.
It's either their SDR or eyes that are cooked. HDR out of the box can't be more wrong than sdr?
You can get true HDR10!
(whathever that is)
The best part is reviews went from mixed to mostly positive, this patch was big and it's looking brighter now
yeah what exactly is hdr10+ in this game even
Ok so what it actually does is if you have HDR10+ gaming TV like Snamsung it reads your TV's nits and sets it to the right value that's it
Now enjoy the cooked native HDR 
It went from 50% positive (mixed) in the first 24 hours to 74% (almost very positive) now.
I did my part and chimed a positive in. This game shouldn't be on mixed. The control complaints are valid but it's not a 6/10 for that
Gothic had janky control as well but it still is and always was a masterpiece
the patch was nice QOL changes but not really that big
this frickin pop in and LOD is driving me nuts
its more like people spend more time after their 2h negative review THIS GAME SUCKS and started to have fun
I think 6 or 7 is a completely fair score
They've done quite a lot considering it was just days after release - during weekend
this is a 6.5 game
bait
Bad bait
I have lots of criticisms
From what I saw and heard the start of the game is just pretty badly made and doesn't make much sense. Probably what caused most negative impressions
There is a lot wrong with it, but its still fun. Nothing more really needs to be said.
6.5 is barely a bait
Am I the only one not having this issue? Ever played BDO? It's like 3x worse at least. I was completely used to it so CD seems like a huge upgrade 
I believe I'm more objective than most when it comes to the quality of this game
I play ps1 games and the lod in this game is about as bad
its a lot worse than almost any game out there
graphical shittiness aside
saying its better than the absolute worse isnt giving it a lot of credit lol
so you have two camps, one is like WOW this game is fun!!! and the other one is like 'this is the worst gam ever, ps1 games are better'
yeah i think I know which side is more accurate.
so far I get that the greymane is a mercenary band, that's about it, are they an ethnic group ... erhh not sure ... a gang? not sure ... but they are treated too well to be just mercenary
lots of story beats don't make sense
Yeah, ps1 games are better
like in rdr2 u know right out ur scum
for every 1k people there is one autist
lots of ps1 games are better than this game, just from a gameplay perspective
there are some absolute bangers on the ps1
this isnt better than the best ps1 games ofc but im enjoying it
Idk how you can think it's a gang when from the start you have multiple people in your group helping out people without expecting anything back lol
Well the story is ultimately that got the short stick, as we know it was supposed to be phoned in right before the game came out
I mean we are killing ppl without expecting anything back too
Graphics, maybe ( 🙂 ), gameplay, errr find any form of "action RPG" on PS1 it will definitely not be such a great modern experience
I think they just bundled all the mmo side quests they had in a few days to make a main story out of it since the original one got deleted
then one day we trying to get the gang back, another day we dealing with cosmic forces like the abyss
the story makes no sense
Someone said a few days ago that the story is just a backdrop to support the exploration and discovery. Its just kinda happening.
then the story makes you think no wonder the greymane got scattered, they are all incompetent
and very unlikable
kliff is just a yes man, a child has her goat stolen? hell yea I'm getting the goat back
But there was supposed to be about something else completely. They just dropped it and phoned in what we have now, because their lead got fired or something. That Reddit post
We shouldn't think too much on it because it just got phoned in they did what they could like in a few days maybe 
The real store we'll never get is gone
considering this game was 15 years in development
They got the story from the same place as the paintings
but yes I give this 6.5 out of respect for the scale they are trying to built
good ideas, horrible execution
and 6.5 doesn't include the bad graphics

once you get to the far end you realized how much more they planned but ultimately left unfinished
questlines end in nowhere
They just literally tied in the side quests into the main story after the original plan was scraped. I'm like 100% on that. Explains why you start with the arm wrestling and the beggar. Those were side quests, it makes no sense
well at least those have like reasons ... like u need coins and arm wrestling are for $
also kliff gets brain damaged is why he learns what most stuffs are
and he says yes to everything
the man can't ever say " ugh Im not doing that, doesn't seem like my business"
Oh so that's your explanation for knowledge system? Yeah I guess..
lots of nice ideas here and there but there's nobody to shoot down the horrible ideas
I feel like the dev team doesn't want to offend whoever the director are
thus making this a disjointed mess
First two chapters are slower and a little disjointed. Starts almost like an mmo before it just opens like a flower
is the mod unstable on AMD gpus?
This part of the game is actually cinema. Can't wait to get there. Sorry for bad quality
I went there early!
my friend with 7900 XTX is having crashes with renoDX
Don't do that
I mean the leak from an employee does say exactly that xD
@golden scaffold except the grass only move in a radius
Peak pearl abyss sloppa 
Flowers do that too I dunno if you notice, I got jump scared by flowers getting erect whenever I walk by
I'm on a 7900xt and haven't 🤔
I think they realized that nobody wants to do it and they just wanted people to try it 😂
I'm stealing gold bars from ppl at a national park
Hardcore
is there an update to the mod for the latest update, perharps that's causing him issues 🤔
Check pins
That's the latest
(I've been here for a bit I'm good at this)
👍 sent it to him
Good luck!
Also make sure he's on latest drivers I guess
Crimson desert got drivers like day 1 for amd
Whereas Nvidia had them early
yeah he said he's on the latest drivers
Ah good good
Oh, strange. Did he do anything to trigger it
Prior to the last update I was getting a crash to desktop every time I turned in hdr or frame gen
Nope just randomly gets a "driver" crash, and seems like it doesn't happen with RenoDX off
and framegen is off too
oh
I turned them on manually thru the config. I dunno if they fixed that or not hahaha
this game has no goldman sachs or something, the banks in this game have horrible investment strategy
he siad he played like 9 hours with renoDX before the update without crashes weird lols
game looks much better with reno. Is DLSS without RR useable yet? the RR performance was terrible
yeah reno makes most games look much better imo
this is one of few games i just turned off because the visuals were so cooked
If they optimise the visual bugs and pop ins, great visual game
didn't know about this drama
yea this makes sense
These are the full statements from people that worked at PA
Daytime looks insanely good, evening and nighttime looks atrociously terrible. I really don't understand why the vegetation gets so smudgy and pixelated when the game gets dark
anyone played with the camera mod? is it useable?
Imo I love all the times of day except for when the sun is behind clouds cause everything looks kinda muddy
idk about good, this looks okay to u?
Looks fine to me
But I'm way too easy to please
bad denoiser
game is RTXed
I can't even start the game because it crashes when loading in
Folks here have had positive experience with it
3840x1600 DLAA with or without RR looks shit, shadows still boiling in most scenario. Only dldsr 2.25x with RR alleviate this but performance say goodbye
has anyone been able to get dlss overides to work? setting custom super resolution scaling gives me a black screen loading into game
The overrides in NVCP or NVPI do nothing.
Tried with Optiscaler and it gives a black screen.
"people"
Everyone who's tried setting a custom scaling factor has reported that it either isn't respected once in game, or black screens.
you can only change preset letter in nvpi
Anyone tested RR preset?
Some people have forced E, otherwise you get default D.
feels like it's always better with whatever they choose default between the two
only change these 2 to whatever u like
i'm trying to install optiscaler + optipatcher to spoof DLSS inputs, would it cause issues with Reshade and Reno?
em-dash and always grouping phrases in sets of 3
only one way to find out
lmao
D is default, E is the other alternative.
I have ran E for the past few days and honestly have a hard time telling the difference.
But its supposedly better.
i'll let you know guys🙏
use anwave to download the latest dlls globally
Em dash is very common in writing in other languages
A lot of English translators end up scrubbing them out because it looks weird to English speakers
I have this weird "pixel grid line" especially during conversation on preset E, what resolution are you running at?
Well their account were linked to their LinkedIn or something like that so it's legit according to Koreans 
Anyone else experienced “brightness pop in” after the patch ? Like objects pop in but with sudden brightening or darkening
1440p, I haven't seen a grid line personally so not sure. 
why dlss though? it has wrong implementation at the moment?
where i can down the mod?
For the next two days I will be traveling and will have to dial back from my 5090 S95F to my 4090 laptop with IPS screen 😭
Yeah, it looks very neat. 🙂
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