Crimson Desert - CHECK PINS FOR ADDON

[crude marsh]

so here I am

[deft pulsar]

like this?

[modest drum]

For example this is a dispatch rays call

[karmic void]

good morning my man

[crude marsh]

👋

[karmic void]

another day, another chapter of Crimson Desert unslop

[modest drum]

That outputs a 960x1080 image

I think raygen shader would be easier to decompile

Since the actaul vertex payload stuff happens in hit shader

[wispy crown]

Was the better auto exposure always bugged or did the new update fuck with what you did? @faint bobcat

[modest drum]

Unless this game uses compute shader + inline RT

[faint bobcat]

its fully compute shaders with DXR calls

I think its inline RT

[modest drum]

RIP

[faint bobcat]

thats why I asked if we couild do it engine side

[modest drum]

No way tho, your capture shows DispatchRays() call

[faint bobcat]

[modest drum]

So its using shader table + shader library

Usually

[faint bobcat]

so maybe I am missing some shaders that I havent dumped yet

let me check pix again

[modest drum]

Dunno if devkit can dump shader library

[faint bobcat]

Shortfuse made it better now

so I can check

[modest drum]

These shaders are compiled with dxc -T lib_6_5

[faint bobcat]

wdym better auto exposure?

[modest drum]

So if dumped it would show 0xXXXXXXXX.lib_6_5.cso

Maybe

[crude marsh]

I can dump the render passes one minute

[modest drum]

lib_6_x

[wispy crown]

The adjustment you added with #cd23c08. I just thought the update released maybe broke it. Going indoors and then going outdoors again keeps the game way too bright.

Otherwise RenoDX seems to still work fine with the new update.

[faint bobcat]

do not use

Its why I havent pinned yet

or uploaded for user usage

[modest drum]

If you are curious what these shaders look like

[faint bobcat]

its not ready

[modest drum]

From dying light 2

[wispy crown]

Don't worry I do not use it for gameplay. Just fiddling around with it myself

[faint bobcat]

contract shadows are too cooked rn

so that setting is just there for testing

[mortal wolf]

you'd have to add missing shader types

[faint bobcat]

and yh auto exposure is cooked

[crude marsh]

        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="RaytracingDebugMode" EnableMacroName="ENABLE_RAYTRACING_DEBUG_MODE" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rdm" TargetShaders="all" />
            <Element Name="ComputeShaderNumThreadsEnum" EnableMacroName="COMPUTE_SHADER_NUM_THREADS_ENUM" EnumType="Integer" Default="0" Count="5" CacheSuffix="csnt" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="RaytracingSeparateAlphaRays" EnableMacroName="USE_SEPARATE_ALPHA_RAYS" EnumType="Bool" Default="True" CacheSuffix="sar" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="InlineRaytracing" EnableMacroName="INLINE_RAYTRACING" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" Material="False" CacheSuffix="irt" TargetShaders="all">
                <Overriding Value="False" StateOverrideMethod="Overwrite">
                    <RaytracingShaders Filename="RaytracingPrimaryRay.hlsl" RayGeneration="RaytracingPrimaryRayRG"/>
                </Overriding>
                <Overriding Value="True" StateOverrideMethod="Overwrite">
                    <ComputeShader Filename="RaytracingPrimaryRay.hlsl" EntryPoint="RaytracingPrimaryRayCS" Library="Raytracing"/>
                </Overriding>
            </Element>
        </Permutation>
    </Pipeline>
    <Pipeline Pass="RaytracingPrimaryRayAlphaTested" Condition="ConditionalTrinity">
        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="RaytracingDebugMode" EnableMacroName="ENABLE_RAYTRACING_DEBUG_MODE" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rdm" TargetShaders="all" />
            <Element Name="ComputeShaderNumThreadsEnum" EnableMacroName="COMPUTE_SHADER_NUM_THREADS_ENUM" EnumType="Integer" Default="0" Count="5" CacheSuffix="csnt" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="InlineRaytracing" EnableMacroName="INLINE_RAYTRACING" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" Material="False" CacheSuffix="irt" TargetShaders="all">
                <!--<Overriding Value="False" StateOverrideMethod="Overwrite">
                    <RaytracingShaders Filename="RaytracingPrimaryRay.hlsl" RayGeneration="RaytracingPrimaryRayAlphaTestedRG"/>
                </Overriding>-->
                <Overriding Value="True" StateOverrideMethod="Overwrite">
                    <ComputeShader Filename="RaytracingPrimaryRay.hlsl" EntryPoint="RaytracingPrimaryRayAlphaTestedCS" Library="Raytracing"/>
                </Overriding>
            </Element>
        </Permutation>
    </Pipeline>
    <Pipeline Pass="RaytracingPrimaryRayGeneration" Condition="!PS5">
        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="RaytracingDebugMode" EnableMacroName="ENABLE_RAYTRACING_DEBUG_MODE" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rdm" TargetShaders="all" />
        </Permutation>
        <RaytracingShaders Filename="RaytracingPrimaryRay.hlsl" RayGeneration="RaytracingPrimaryRayGeneration"/>
    </Pipeline>
    <Pipeline Pass="RaytracingPrimaryRayEvaluation" Condition="!PS5">
        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="RaytracingDebugMode" EnableMacroName="ENABLE_RAYTRACING_DEBUG_MODE" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rdm" TargetShaders="all" />
        </Permutation>
        <ComputeShader Filename="RaytracingPrimaryRayEvaluation.hlsl" EntryPoint="RaytracingPrimaryRayEvaluationCS"/>
    </Pipeline>```

probably not helpful but

[modest drum]

It says they are using compute shader tho

Interesting

INLINE_RAYTRACING

That's the bane of my modding existence XD

[faint bobcat]

[modest drum]

These are so hard to decompile

I did it for GTA V enhanced's RTGI

If shortfuse can add the missing stuff in decomp🥺

[crude marsh]

I could try removing the inlining in the primary ray

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/richard-attenborough-whip-whipped-whiplash-whiplashed-gif-8038917888032528445

[crude marsh]

I need to get devkit working

[faint bobcat]

get the newest one

[crude marsh]

is this a specific set of shader reshade-shaders-renodxdev\

[faint bobcat]

This one has better SRVs view

and doesnt annihilate perf

[faint bobcat]

the naming should match alias on the shaders

this isnt like DX11

where everything is unamed

[crude marsh]

well its just a path in the files you sent me

[faint bobcat]

oh

[crude marsh]

that I don't have

[faint bobcat]

thats from Jon

what is missing

[faint bobcat]

just add this

thats the only thng thats missing I think

since he symlinked

[mortal wolf]

mixing different devkit with addons can crash

because ABI

[faint bobcat]

I used relwithdebug

[crude marsh]

there is a precompiled MCP somewhere right

not that I need it rn

[faint bobcat]

should be on RenoDX main

@modest drum you also have to understand their setup is PURE JANK

for RT

and well everything else as well

I dont think any 'typical' approaches apply here

its all borked

random stuff layer on top of one another

some of the RT is screenspaced

reshade ahhh RTGI

[lilac urchin]

the artifacts on the letters with FG are driving me insane 🙁

[modest drum]

I think they infer to the voxel GI first

If voxel GI has cached lighting, they will skip RT and use that GI

[dreamy perch]

how do i download this?

[lapis smelt]

I'm pretty stupid when it comes to graphics but seeing you guys discussion seems this game is a particular brand of fucked, tech wise

[neon whale]

Pins

[crude marsh]

can I remove the wind 🤔

<RenderPass Name="GenerateVertexDisplacement">
<Pipeline Pass="GenerateTreeVertexDisplacement" >
<Define Name="LEAF_WIND_ANIMATION" Value="1" CacheSuffix="lwa" TargetShaders="cs"/>
<ComputeShader Filename="Tree.hlsl" EntryPoint="GenerateVertexDisplacementCS"/>
</Pipeline>
</RenderPass>

[sterile nacelle]

Hi, where can I download Reno DX for Crimson, please?

Help me please

[crimson blade]

What do we think of the movement in the new patch?

[sterile nacelle]

its my first time

where is the link ?

[crimson blade]

It's in the pins, please download and install reshade and apply it to crimson desert, then drop the file from the pins next to the game .exe and renoDX should start working

[sterile nacelle]

WHERE ARE THE BROOKS?

please

[lament nymph]

I can't take this ugly ass graphics no more

[sterile nacelle]

I can't find the HDR AD link. I know how to use Instalker Reshade, but I can't find Reno DX for Crimson.

[wet tundra]

its pinned

[crude marsh]

top right

click pins

[sterile nacelle]

Pin or what? Sorry, it's my first time.

[wet tundra]

here

[finite beacon]

If you cant see the pin symbol, expand the chat window. Click on Crimson Desert on the top of the chat, to expand it.

[frozen thistle]

should i select everything i am installing reshade

[zenith belfry]

select nothing

[wispy crown]

You don't need anything

[zenith belfry]

uncheck all, next, next

then drop the file next to .exe

[frozen thistle]

aight i installed so i am going to drop the file bin64

[wispy crown]

That looks correct

[wispy crown]

You installed Reshade with full addon support right?

[frozen thistle]

yep

[golden scaffold]

Yeah you should also check https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1432085769266135215/1432085769266135215

[zenith belfry]

ik graphics have issues but this is legit one of the most addicting games I ever plazed so I'm pretty excited for any future changes/mods

[frozen thistle]

with this one

[wispy crown]

Okay then you're good to go. Just enable HDR ingame or it won't work

[sterile nacelle]

please give me link github

[zenith belfry]

brother

[sterile nacelle]

for ad on crimson hdr

[wispy crown]

It's in the pinned bro

[frozen thistle]

i dont have hdr i installed this because of over sharpness it will not work?

[zenith belfry]

you were literally linked

to the message

[golden scaffold]

Maybe direct new users for general help to #🆘helpdesk

[wispy crown]

The sliders only work with HDR active afaik

[sterile nacelle]

I promise you I don't see him

[zenith belfry]

I dont believe you

[frozen thistle]

i am going to try i hope its work 🙁

[golden scaffold]

Did you enable HDR ingame or mod wont load iirc

[sterile nacelle]

Please send me a screenshot of where I need to click.

[wispy crown]

@sterile nacelle here it is

[finite beacon]

If you cant see the PIN icon, your chat window is minimized. Click on "Crimson Desert" on the top to expand the chat box and then you see the Pin icon...

[frozen thistle]

if we dont have hdr we cannot use that?

[zenith belfry]

he was linked this message and still doesnt see it ig

dunno whats wrong with his discord

[frozen thistle]

because i get tired of oversharp image i am playing at 1440p

[golden scaffold]

There weren't any universal graphics mods that did not have HDR included yet, but maybe someday, as mods are branching beyond just HDR. Should pester the devs about this 🤷‍♂️

[sterile nacelle]

to the search bar in the top right corner???

[zenith belfry]

please just click on the message you were sent

[sterile nacelle]

its good best comunity sory im retard probably

[fallen knoll]

Do you guys disable Generic Depth and Effect runtime sync?

[crude marsh]

yeah

[fallen knoll]

ty

[crude marsh]

Jon said you can turn off sharpening and CA in SDR with it

[hasty onyx]

To get resahde after getting optiscaller cause they both use dxgi.dll. do I need to rename the dll?

[zenith belfry]

is there actually any benefit to turning those off or is it just the case it isnt needed and could improve performance

[fallen knoll]

Its a must afaik

[zenith belfry]

generic depth and runtime sync I mean

I have never ever disabled them

[fallen knoll]

all renodx games have it in their description oto have it off

but i asked first for crimson

[wispy crown]

Yeah it's a bit of performance you can get back

[dapper lake]

anyone having flickering issues since new update with reno dx? only there with dlss on but i crash without it on now when using reno
Edit: its something to do with shader comp i think. Flickering dissapears with RR off howver colours etc are borked, models are wrong and shadows are in random spots - also doing comp every launch so probably just my game

[zenith belfry]

Btw does reno support new dlss framegen now or do you still have to manually switch to an old version?

[dapper lake]

been working fine with FG for me

[zenith belfry]

huge

[wispy crown]

Never switched to old version and have no problems

[zenith belfry]

tyty

[crude marsh]

this is big brain modding right here, modified a file and added 23 KB of text but only have a budget of 4KB extra

remove trailing zeros on all the numbers

[faint bobcat]

Blinsom Fessert

really activating the neurons

[remote mountain]

Did the patch help anything?

[dapper lake]

Fixed all this by uninstalling reshade and verifying files. Going to try enabling reshade and reno again now I have a playable game

[thin kelp]

seems to work nicely

[wispy crown]

Not graphically but combat feels much smoother. Story/Quest bug fixes are also always welcome.

[frozen thistle]

i dont think i can change sharpening only film grain

%100 film grain with %100 sharpness, %0 film grain with %0 sharpness

only difference is film grain i think

[thin kelp]

should be there

ah i see you have it

[frozen thistle]

yeah but it not working only film grain working

and this is the %100 film grain %0 sharpness

[boreal thunder]

How do you guys get it to Preset E? Nvidia app says settings are not available for this game

[dire pilot]

NVPI

[wispy crown]

I wouldn't suggest using Preset E

It has quite a lot of visual issues at dusk/dawn and in low light scenes in general.

[frozen thistle]

Go global settings

[deft pulsar]

they really need to fix the lantern it looks like shit

[crude marsh]

E do be wonky in this game

[boreal thunder]

Wow biggest thing after patch seems to be audio

Atmos sound great now

[dapper lake]

What preset are you using? Might need to give that a try again

[boreal thunder]

I am using K, DLSS 4.0 in game

[frozen thistle]

isnt they are the same (sharpness)

the sun is moving as time passes in the game so the lighting and colors are changing because of that

[lament nymph]

man I was googling for a puzzle solution

and I was like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_PZEih8AQE

these ppl played with these graphics?

[true dagger]

goddamn that looks horrible 😭 but as long as he having fun

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/ignorance-is-bliss-cypher-joe-pantoliano-the-matrix-oh-well-gif-22197092

[deft pulsar]

oh my god

[true dagger]

yea i’m thinking of switching back, E seems to have some issues sometimes

[faint bobcat]

BRUH

so I wasnt wrong

@wheat elk

ready for more jank?

so for sun light

they use Burley

but for local lights they use lambert

brother

@crude marsh new lore drop for Erika

I guess this is the super duper optimsation strat

[boreal thunder]

Is there a proper app that just lets me capture HdR footage, without tweaking tons of settings in OBS

[faint bobcat]

Screenshots we handle via reshade

vid footage

NV overlay works

or AMD equivalent

[frozen thistle]

@faint bobcat i dont have hdr i installed reshade can i change the sharpness?

[faint bobcat]

@jade spruce

They also dont use standard inverse square law

[frozen thistle]

i tried i only can change film grain

[faint bobcat]

no windowed falloff

abrupt clip

no energy normalisation

theres also some strange special case intesnity > 99999

thing

[faint bobcat]

Should work

[boreal thunder]

I tried posting Nvidia overlay, looks fine to play on computer but completely broken when I posted it here.

But HDR footage captured from iPhone works fine

[frozen thistle]

one of them %100 sharpness other %0 what should i do

the color change because of sun

[crude marsh]

IIRC if you are on AMD the sharpness may or may not do anything

[frozen thistle]

i am on nvidia dlss

[boreal thunder]

Oh you have to press download to see it. Just playing it on Discord is a complete piece of junk.

Got it now.

Let me post the Crimson Desert comparison again using Nvidia app this time

Just curious when I use NV overlay to capture it, does it also capture RenoDX

[vivid iris]

This is actually because I’m stupid, it’ll be fixed with the next build

[frozen thistle]

my problem? or something else

i mean about sharpness

[rough cliff]

do u guys find its pretty playable now after the new patch? I had some issues with RR and some other issues on launch day so idk if i should wait a bit longer for more patches

[frozen thistle]

are u talking about sharpness right

[vivid iris]

Are you playing Sdr or hdr

[frozen thistle]

not hdr i think it is sdr idk

i mean i dont have hdr

[vivid iris]

Then yeah sharpening won’t work for you

Until next build

[frozen thistle]

ty bro i love you 😄

[hybrid geyser]

I use medal to clip stuff which has HDR compatibility, reshade is visible too.

[naive jackal]

Anyone else having the issue of the game just not booting with reshade and reno installed?

Defender isn't flagging or seizing the file, i am using the the reno commander app to install them though, install reshade and reno game crashes at boot, go back into commander and remove them, game works again

[jade spruce]

No way

[faint bobcat]

Skyblim moment

never beating the modded skyrim allegations

[jade spruce]

Literally enb in 2026

[lucid thorn]

Hey all, stupid question but I'm still learning. I have a qd oled and I go between hdr true black and hdr peak 1000. I'm always in a dark room though. I get that it's kinda preference but is there anything I should read up on to better understand some things?

[jade spruce]

But yeah, I think instead of blanket nerfing the bulbs maybe try fixing that function

That will help with everything looking like a nike and localize light more

[deft pulsar]

I settled on peak 500 nits, see if your monitor has that

peak 1000 dims so much its not even funny

[jade spruce]

Because from what I saw, with the nerfed bulbs you basically don't light anything up at all

[lucid thorn]

My "smart hdr" settings are movie use, game hdr, custom color hdr, displayHDR true black, HDR peak 1000 🤔

[sick monolith]

true black crushes blacks. peak 1000 doesn't crush so the image appears slightly "brighter".

[deft pulsar]

well it shouldnt crush blacks if properly calibrated

[sick monolith]

it's the tonemapper.. it will crush no matter what

that's why they created the 1000 mode

[mortal wolf]

speaking of...

skyrim psychov lms when

[naive jackal]

Noob at all this stuff myself but most of what i've read says that peak 1000 is okay in a dark room and true black 400 is better in a lit room but personally i think peak 1000 looks dim and bland compared to to tb400 in either scenario, it was especially noticable in Stellar Blade out in the desert

[lucid thorn]

I will say 1000 is bright as shit, which you know, makes sense. I'm always in a pitch black room though so I wondered if 1000 was melting my eyes a bit 😂

[viscid wedge]

I was having black crush issues with my LG C2 prior to Reno, but thats since been fixed. So much better now.

[faint bobcat]

@jade spruce can do

[sick monolith]

all you need to know is that 1000 mode follows eotf better for the more "accurate" look

[faint bobcat]

Anyways, EON is now in for local lights

[mortal wolf]

"ChatGPT, make skyrim renodx"

[faint bobcat]

and I changed their light attentuation

[lucid thorn]

I'm on an Alienware aw2725df if that helps anything. I like hdr but I never know I'm experiencing it "properly"

[faint bobcat]

time ot test

[lucid thorn]

See I was reading the opposite. How interesting 🤔

[mortal wolf]

when in doubt, crank it.

crank those sliders

[deft pulsar]

huh

[naive jackal]

@lucid thorn In some ways it's like going down the audiophile rabbit hole with headphones lol

[lucid thorn]

I literally just went through this 😭 I picked up a pair of in ears just recently 😂

[sick monolith]

i think hdtv test has a video on this. i know yall are skeptical

[lucid thorn]

I'll try to find that

But otherwise I guess I'd just give both a try and make my own choice

[deft pulsar]

i mean doesnt it depend on the panel

QD oled monitors specifically should have really poor eotf tracking on peak 1000 nits

[sick monolith]

all panels are different but the implementation of true black tonemapping always crushes blacks

it's about the software

[deft pulsar]

but tonemapping is optional on the monitor side

you can just disable peak brightness and leave tonemapping to the game you're playing

[mortal wolf]

i never added a min nits system because oled yolo

[deft pulsar]

can't you?

[sick monolith]

he was asking between the two options

[boreal thunder]

Again please let me know which one do you prefer or no difference - please download to view, don't play it directly on Discord.

[lucid thorn]

I asked cause I was reading this and thought I'd ask,

If you don't mind the more unprecise HDR, you want the small bright highlights in dark scenes and don't mind the huge brightness shifts from scene to scene (darker to brighter scenes) then you can use PEAK 1000 etc. And then you should setup HDR max luminance in games to the monitors peak luminance off around 1000 nits and let ABL do its dimming.

And this

TrueBlack or similar picture modes, typically can not output higher peak brightness on a 2% window than on a 10% window. It basically clips at around 500 nits. The advantage of these modes are that HDR follows the EOTF curve more precisely so HDR will look as its mastered.

They will also use much less aggressive ABL, leading to smoother, more consistent brightness in mixed scenes.

Sorry about this :p

[naive jackal]

@mortal wolf Saw the vid the other day discussing DLSS5, who's giving out the right info from Nvidia? Cos Jensen said one thing, then Jacob Freeman and then another PR guy gave Daniel Owens two differentr conflicting statements that everyone has jumped on. Jacob is not an engineer though he's a community mod, and the ohter guy is a PR dude, Jensen in the only engineer out of the 3. So is Jensen just blowing hot air? Which info is correct here?

[faint bobcat]

No one knows

its random dmg control

We wont know until its out

and we can see for ourselves wtf it is doing

[sick monolith]

the question is which is the better tonemapper? the in game or the monitor?

A. if you let the game do 10k or uncap, the monitor will tonemap to 1000 or 400

B. if you tonemap ingame to 1000 or 400, the monitor doesnt need to tonemap it too much.. just make sure you match the peak

C. if you let the game do 10k or uncap.. and set the monitor to HGIG it will clip at the monitor's peak.

[deft pulsar]

not like they really care

[lucid thorn]

I should probably look into tonemapping next :p

[daring orbit]

the second i guess

[lapis smelt]

They are in damage control, that shit was hated by 99% of people.

[daring orbit]

really close

[golden scaffold]

What did I just read? Monitor shouldn't do any tonemapping. Use hgig

[naive jackal]

Yeah guess we won't know till it's demo'd or again or at release, still the hysteria just seems ridiculous to me. Suddenly everyone is treating "muh artistic intent" as if it's a holy relic meanwhile they're playing as CJ in Skyrim. And there's many cases where the artistic intent is just stupid which is why things like RenoDX exist.

[lapis smelt]

Nah. Theres a different MODDING something in than whatever the fuck DLSS5 ends up being.

[sick monolith]

think his monitor doesnt have hgig.. he was asking between 1000 or 400 true black

[deft pulsar]

ff xvi looks like shit with static tonemapping

dim as fuck

[potent spear]

Are the changes to DLSS from the patch noticeable?

[golden scaffold]

Monitor problem then. Get a better one

[sick monolith]

nothing is more noticeable than burnt sienna

[deft pulsar]

but as a rule of thumb yeah, tonemapping should be left to software

[deft pulsar]

I mean QD OLED Gen 3 is almost as good as it gets atm

Tandem Oled is shit

[golden scaffold]

how can it be too dim then

[thorn grove]

what do I even set as a noob, I know my max peak nits and all of the other settings are destroying my mind

[lucid thorn]

But mine was expensive 🙁

Tbf I'm in canada everything is..

[potent spear]

Not what I asked at all but sure!

[deft pulsar]

well not too dim, too dark

[golden scaffold]

Should meditate on your EOTF curves

[naive jackal]

@deft pulsar I thought gen 4 tandem had much better fullscreen brightness?

[daring orbit]

its an ai slop filter run by two 5090s...lmfao

[sick monolith]

worse picture quality it seems

[deft pulsar]

it does but also has so much banding issues

[naive jackal]

hmm

[lament nymph]

i'm just waiting for when fmm free oled can be mass produced

[naive jackal]

Can't that be fixed with firmware updates?

[lament nymph]

don't have to deal with woled and qd oled no more

[sick monolith]

set your monitor to HGIG and do the windows calibration..

whatever result you get in the calibration.. set that peak nits in game as well

[golden scaffold]

As Shortfuse pointed out DLSS5 introduced new kind of issues as well (instability on textures) so I'm not fan of it for that reason. But this is something that could be fixed (denoooisers).

Another thing where DLSS5 AIslop could be very interesting would be old games like LA Noire. But how do you make that work if old games don't even support DLSS can someone explain that

[lament nymph]

never played la noire ...

[deft pulsar]

I dont think so because it's the way tandem oled works

[lapis smelt]

Hopefully Nvidia buries it and it never gets released.

[golden scaffold]

Me neither, waiting for that RTXX RemiX + Slop Difusion filter

[lucid thorn]

They're out of fake frame modifiers though how will they justify charging you 3x the price

[sick monolith]

if you have a probe you can use the new dwm_lut_fixed by zkippp for color accuracy

[deft pulsar]

This phenomenon originates from the inherent physical characteristics of the Tandem OLED driving layer (DDI) when operating at extremely low luminance levels. Under near-black brightness conditions, the DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) outputs extremely small driving currents. Measurements show a fixed, minor micro-current variation between different driving channels.

At higher luminance levels (e.g., 32 Gray, ~4.82 nits) – this variation translates to a luminance difference of only ~1.2%, which is below typical human visual perception thresholds and therefore generally imperceptible.

At very low luminance levels (e.g., 8 Gray, ~0.26 nits) – because the baseline luminance is minimal, the same absolute difference becomes proportionally amplified (approximately 31% variation). Under these specific boundary conditions, it may be perceived by the human eye as visible banding.

[naive jackal]

The Dark Messiah Remix footage has looked pretty good to me so far compared to other remix projects, so many of them have this universal shiny plastic look

[golden scaffold]

Moore's law has actually been going in reverse now

[viscid wedge]

I think the biggest misconception is this. Is DLSS5 something that users turn on and off on whatever game they want? Or dev tools for implementing this feature into a game's base code. I think all the hate comes from normies believing it to be the former, but Nvidia's communication seems to make it sound like its the latter. This plays a large role in it having any impact in old games. (none, essentially)

[lament nymph]

this game gives off the illusion that nobody do anything except for you and ur enemies which actually fight you

[lapis smelt]

I guess what people were speculating about DLSS 4.5 hitting a wall makes sense then, if they are trying to come up with bullshit uses to justifify new hardware

[lucid thorn]

D:

[lament nymph]

like why wait for kliff to do anything ... archery contest? let us prove that girl wrong and well kliff u do it

[lapis smelt]

DLSS5 AI Slop is not it however.

[lament nymph]

kliff ... go get our comrade, we know he's there we just don't ever do it

kliff ... the quarry is full of bandits, go clear it ... our knights are busy doing nothing

[golden scaffold]

I would immidiatelly give it a try in old games. Why bother making/buying remaster slop?

[lament nymph]

let us reward u with a hill with nothing

[lucid thorn]

My last Nvidia gpu had a class action lawsuit and I just drifted towards amd gpus

Some days i get fomo and wanna experience cyberpunk at 1440p path tracing but that's not really in the cards :p

[thorn grove]

and besides that? there are so many settings

[sick monolith]

what settings?

[thorn grove]

for reno xd

[sick monolith]

oh there's a reset to default button.

[lucid thorn]

I generally leave them where they are

[thorn grove]

like after booting the tutotial i can choose a quadrilion things

[lucid thorn]

You can tweak things if you want brighter/darker shadows

[golden scaffold]

Or imagine rendering CP2077 at 720p no RT lowest settings and telling DLSS: Slopify pls! And you get path tracing 4K at 200 fps

[sick monolith]

all you need is the reno tab leave it as is or reset to default if you touched it already

[lucid thorn]

I think thats all preference to a degree.. I'm sure there's a "right" way but I'm red/green colourblind. Most things get lost if they're close enough to the same colour :p

[viscid wedge]

Reno will pull the peak brightness from what you calibrated it to in the HDR calibration app (double check its correct of course). From there, the defaults are "fine" but you have some options to tweak.

[deft pulsar]

I mean, if you fancy 40fps with 120hz refresh rate, I am able to get that with my 7900XT

9070XT def does that better

[lucid thorn]

I'm also on a 7900xt! 40fps does make me rather ill tho 🙁

[thorn grove]

aaah ok ty guys, thought i'd need to play with all these things just to get the better hdr

[sick monolith]

just make sure you match the peak nits from windows calibration to renodx

[lucid thorn]

40fps also looks even worse on a 360hz panel. But so does 60 🙁

[deft pulsar]

i get that, with M&K it's nausea inducing but I can handle that with a controller tbh

[lucid thorn]

Yeah tbh I think it's my fault hahaha

[deft pulsar]

you can just lower the refresh rate or use VRR haha

[lucid thorn]

Yeah but I paid for the hz! I had to turn off free sync tbf

[boreal thunder]

Sorry proper capture this time - didn't know Discord would affect fps quite a bit lol. Please download to view and compare and let me know which one you prefer.

[golden scaffold]

Can someone explain why CD feels so jank and bad at 60-70 fps framegened? My base is probably 40. No framegen at 55-65 just feels better. Or I can get it to 75 if I go ultra perf

But with framegen at 60 it's just really bad 🤷‍♂️

[boreal thunder]

Again please don't play directly on Discord

[deft pulsar]

base 40 frame gen is sluggish on every game tbh

[ocean onyx]

Something about the implementation of fsr fg felt off to me too, guess that's the same for dlss fg then

[lucid thorn]

Frame gen wasn't made for like sub 70 or 80 base anyway was it?

[ocean onyx]

It's particularly worse than normal here

[deft pulsar]

I understand, but some games you just will never be able to fill that refresh rate

[sick monolith]

framegen u must always be 60 base

[lucid thorn]

That is very true

[deft pulsar]

360hz is basically competitive games only

[lucid thorn]

Evidentally I've never once filled it 😂

Got close in apex though!

[golden scaffold]

Yeah but im like, whats actually going on

[lucid thorn]

Oh I think it just adds input lag the lower your base frames are. And since it already carries a small performance hit, and the game is already slower you just feel it more

[deft pulsar]

yeah if native is at 60 fps frame gen lowers that

[sick monolith]

you are 65 base without framegen.. when you activate framegen.. it eats gpu power so your base isn't actually 65 but a lot lower than that.

[jade spruce]

Gimme the code and I will pass it on

[golden scaffold]

If you have stable 60 you already won. Not much point adding fake frames after that, you're just adding more slop and input delay for slightly better perceived motion. I wish framegen would help with the bottom part of the problem 😔

[lapis smelt]

Why do you want to play something that was not made by a person?

[golden scaffold]

Yeah goes down to 55 so I'm betting it goes down to 40s

[golden scaffold]

Honestly idgaf 🤷‍♂️ it's just a filter. Personal preference what looks better to you

[lucid thorn]

I'll run frame gen only if single player and it's like, base 80+ frames. But on mouse and keeb it doesn't feel "smooth" until 90-100 fps. I stop feeling as much of a difference after 120. I got a lot of friends who don't believe me but 60-90 is a big difference the 90-120 is still a difference but not as big

We all got weird quirks or something

[lament nymph]

when do we get a flying vehicle that runs infinitely like zelda

[sick monolith]

framegen is only good if you have flat frametime graph.. you wont achive that if you are already 100% gpu usage at 65 frames. and there's also 1% lows..

[golden scaffold]

So yeah, it's the frame time stability that matters then?

[burnt dew]

how the fuck do you guys fight during nights especially near vegetation. Pressing one heavy attack makes the entire image fuzzy af and you cant see shit

[golden scaffold]

I wish I could see it in the game

[lapis smelt]

Well then stop assuming that everyone who disliked the DLSS5slop is "histeric", per your words.

[sick monolith]

in framegen stuff yes it matters a lot

[lucid thorn]

Hold the combat button and pray

[boreal thunder]

As long as it looks smooth I don't care about a bit of latency especially in games like Crimson Desert

[golden scaffold]

Hm? I never said that. I don't like it either for many other reasons, but I would try it in older games why not

[lucid thorn]

Btw if you don't know, holding the attack button is better than pressing 😂

[boreal thunder]

I always turn off frame gen for shooters, SF6 and souls like

[sick monolith]

@golden scaffold what you can do is cap the game fps to about 90% gpu usage to make sure you have room for framegen.

[lapis smelt]

My bad, I read someone elses post as yours

[lucid thorn]

There's a lot of us you're good

[golden scaffold]

Worth a try, in Nvidia cpl or..?

[lament nymph]

woah, u went apeshit over someone and that's all the apologies u got?

[lucid thorn]

I think rivatuner is better than Nvidia but for this maybe fine?

[lament nymph]

I demand a pizza tribute

[golden scaffold]

It's fine

[lament nymph]

straight to his address

[lapis smelt]

AI Slop gets my triggered I apologize profusely with 2x Framegen

[sick monolith]

depends on game.. try both.. i havent tried in CD. i have a 2nd gpu for framegen stuff

[lucid thorn]

Unfortunately I have two kids so that's my 2nd gpu money

[daring orbit]

I play elden ring with fg cause anymore than 60fps, starts messing with your iframes

[mortal wolf]

DLSS has multiple things in streamline such as ```cpp
case sl::kBufferTypeDepth: s << "Depth"; break;
case sl::kBufferTypeMotionVectors: s << "Motion Vectors"; break;
case sl::kBufferTypeHUDLessColor: s << "HUDLess Color"; break;
case sl::kBufferTypeScalingInputColor: s << "Scaling Input Color"; break;
case sl::kBufferTypeScalingOutputColor: s << "Scaling Output Color"; break;
case sl::kBufferTypeNormals: s << "Normals"; break;
case sl::kBufferTypeRoughness: s << "Roughness"; break;
case sl::kBufferTypeAlbedo: s << "Albedo"; break;

here's what <https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-dlss-5-delivers-ai-powered-breakthrough-in-visual-fidelity-for-games> says:

> DLSS 5 introduces a real-time neural rendering model that infuses pixels with photoreal lighting and materials.
> 
> [...]
> 
> DLSS 5 takes a game’s color and motion vectors for each frame as input, and uses an AI model to infuse the scene with photoreal lighting and materials that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame. DLSS 5 runs in real time at up to 4K resolution for smooth, interactive gameplay.
> 
> The AI model is trained end to end to understand complex scene semantics such as characters, hair, fabric and translucent skin, along with environmental lighting conditions like front-lit, back-lit or overcast — all by analyzing a single frame. DLSS 5 then uses its deep understanding to generate visually precise images that handle complex elements such as subsurface scattering on skin, the delicate sheen of fabric and light-material interactions on hair, all while retaining the structure and semantics of the original scene.

There's no depth, albedo, normals or roughness passed here (at least not yet). Just color and motion vectors. And you can even extend to say motion vectors are geometry data, because technically they are, but it doesn't likely use the geometry data from motion vectors to generate the key AI inpainted frame.

Here's the question asked to Jensen:

Since DLSS 5 was revealed yesterday, there's been a pretty vocal response from some of the gaming community that the technology appears to make games appear worse, homogenous, or show only NVIDIA's view of how games should look. How do you feel about that criticism?

And his response:

Well, first of all, they're completely wrong. The reason for that is because, as I have explained very carefully, DLSS 5 fuses controllability of the of geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI. You can still finetune the generative AI so that you can make it your artistic style and so all of that is up to you. You know, we created the technology, we don't create the art. DLSS5, because it's geometry controlled, it's conditioned by the ground truth of the game. It enhances and adds generative capability but it doesn't change the artistic control. It's not post processing--it's not post processing at the frame level, it's generative control at the geometry level. And so, everything about that, the generative part of it you can-- the game developer can finetune. We demonstrated the technology and see what they can do. If you decide you want it to be, you know, cartoon or tune shader or, you know, made of glass or, I mean, it's up to you. Now all of that is in the direct control of the game developer. This is very different from generative AI. It's content control generative AI. That's why we call it neural rendering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaA9jHUmYe4

It FUSES the geometry. Must like your USB cable connected to your mouse can fuse your hand motions with the cursor on the screen. He did not say it uses the geometry data. The point of fine-tuning the AI will remain to be seen, but it will likely not be all that different than a LoRA, or allow game developers to distill versions for their game. Because DLSS5 is "geometry controlled" and "conditioned by the ground truth of the game", means that it will not (because it's trained not to) create new content on top. You can't ask the AI to create a tree in the middle of the screen if it's not there at the geometry level. It is not post process because it runs at the same rendering level as the game, much like how DLSS upscales. It's not after the game is outputted to screen, and you can still get it early enough to manipulate the scene, just like when DLSS upscaling modifies the render on top. This is before the LUT and tonemapping stage, which generally Nvidia would call the post processing stage. This happens before that.

To note, Nvidia calls neural rendering anything that uses a matrix (Tensor Cores) instead of "brute force" math (ALU/CUDA cores). This is also "neural rendering"

• RTX Neural Texture Compression uses AI to compress thousands of textures in less than a minute. Their neural representations are stored or accessed in real time or loaded directly into memory without further modification. The neurally compressed textures save up to 7x more VRAM or system memory than traditional block compressed textures at the same visual quality.
• RTX Neural Materials uses AI to compress complex shader code typically reserved for offline materials and built with multiple layers such as porcelain and silk. The material processing is up to 5x faster, making it possible to render film-quality assets at game-ready frame rates.
• RTX Neural Radiance Cache uses AI to learn multi-bounce indirect lighting to infer an infinite amount of bounces after the initial one to two bounces from path traced rays. This offers better path traced indirect lighting and performance versus path traced lighting without a radiance cache. NRC is now available through the RTX Global Illumination SDK, and will be available soon through RTX Remix and Portal with RTX.

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-rtx-neural-rendering-introduces-next-era-of-ai-powered-graphics-innovation/

[burnt dew]

Yea, i know. You literally can't see shit at night. The shadows are way too crushed, also i feel like the game's lighting is beyond fucked during night

[lucid thorn]

Oh I can see fine at night

Actually that's why I brought up the hdr 1000 thing. I kept hearing nights were too dark but they never were for me in hdr 1000. It's why I started wondering if I should be running true black

[lucid thorn]

Anyway use your lantern haha

[golden scaffold]

Are you in SDR?

Sound exactly how the game looks on twitch streams

[burnt dew]

Yea, mostly. I'm on a lg38gn950

hdr is trash

[lament nymph]

my windows a/c unit is working overtime whenever I have any games running

cause my central a/c ignore my room when it's suffering

[golden scaffold]

My nights/shadow details are actually slightly too visible can barely tell it's night

[burnt dew]

trash on my monitor not in general

[lucid thorn]

Good thing renodx hdr is good

[lucid thorn]

Oh sounds like you need a new monitor

[lament nymph]

40 hrs in the game still isn't so good x.x when does it gets good

[lucid thorn]

Based on this conversation, get one with hgig

[lucid thorn]

Game might not be for you 🙁

You sound like me in starfield

It was not a game for me

[golden scaffold]

I was just out exploring trough entire "night" yesterday and was like, when is the real night coming? And then it was morning

RenoDeeggs btw. Contrast setting 50 (down from 60)

[stone comet]

im 30 hours in and its good enough just give it up LOL

[frosty fulcrum]

from the start 🙂

[daring orbit]

Im sorry but what i saw of dlss5, im not wasting 2fps, on that slop

[jade flame]

Even if I ignore the moral stuff about DLSS5.

Technically I just find it is too far off from being ready.
In scenes that are just closeups of a character it does pretty good. But once a character is a bit away from the camera and there is scenery their model doesn't seem to know what the focus is and kind of gets lost.

Also the complete disregard for scene lighting. It just applies "hero lighting" to whatever is in front of the camera and just totally ignores where in-world light sources are.

[lucid thorn]

I get this won't be everybody's thing but I really don't like skyrim. I beat it once on the 360, can't replay it. Spend like a few days a year modding it and playing it for 20 minutes.

Anyway crimson desert scratches that itch for me that skyrim couldn't, if that makes sense?

[sick monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlLJMeEfSmA

[lucid thorn]

You don't like everybody running around with ring lights and lip fillers?

[lapis smelt]

Not to mention stability. Those fifa in motion videos were a nightmare of temporal stability.

[golden scaffold]

It does. I think Skyrim is a lot more mid (without mods) then cd.

[frosty fulcrum]

skyrim and this game are nothing alike.

[sick monolith]

differentiate the boxes not the text

[lucid thorn]

Nah, but skyrim is praised for it's exploration and I never really got into it. This game I do tho

[cosmic zenith]

So silly the way Nvidia argued about DLSS5. Like bruh, even if it's revolutionary and great, your showcase looked like shit

[jade flame]

Yeah, it gets worse when you slowdown their examples too.

[lucid thorn]

I think the biggest problem is that if dlss5 gets "better" then amd/Intel have to make their own, but none of them will be the same. So you'll have games that look different based on vendor

[jade flame]

Yeah. I'm enjoying this more than RDR2 and Skyrim from a exploration and freedom perspective.

[crude marsh]

well you already do have that but yeah not as drastic as it could be

[golden scaffold]

Vanilla TES games have a difficulty problem. Nothing really actually matters. Why explore and collect anything, game is either too easy or too hard based on the difficulty slider that all can do is adjust hp sponges. Mods can maybe somewhat fix that and give you a reason to do anything besides roleplay

[frosty fulcrum]

Skyrim is an RPG this game is an action adventure

[lucid thorn]

Well yeah

[lucid thorn]

See, I'd even argue that

[lapis smelt]

Gamer Nexus video on it is a good example. The player limbs disappearing and the ball morphing into an eldritch abomination were pretty funny.

[lucid thorn]

I get that skyrim is an rpg on the surface but I see it more action adventure than rpg

[jade flame]

The term RPG is so diluted in gaming anymore it basically means nothing.

[lucid thorn]

Like I get that you role play as a dude but I dunno, it felt lite on rpg mechanics. I'll accept the roast. Imo Bethesda used to make rpgs and then just started making action adventure games with lite rpg mechanics. Like morrowind was more rpg than oblivion, which was more rpg than skyrim, etc. I dunno. I'm okay being on my own with that :p

[burnt dew]

Currently HDR600 monitor, but forces the color profile back to SRGB. THing is I had HDR1000 FALD monitor but it broke. I can never look at HDR the same way again. Never tried OLED

[smoky brook]

was this thread not active enough before someone mentioned DLSS 5

[golden scaffold]

The difference is in Skyrim (pre modded) you can do side stuff like smithing and alchemy, cooking (eating food) not because you have to but it's strictly a roleplay thing

In CD all that stuff is actually very meaningful and the way it's designed is more immersive than other games

[lucid thorn]

Actually speaking of skyrim. I feel bad for dovahkiin. That kids in like, junior high now? High school?

[cosmic zenith]

I need DLSS5 to make the orc women hotter in CD

[lucid thorn]

Yeah this is true

[lucid thorn]

We call that alcohol

[lucid thorn]

Dunno if anybody remembers this but skyrim had a contest for any kids born on 11/11/11 named dovahkiin their parents would get Bethesda stuff for life.

That kids folks got like 6 copies of skyrim, fallout 76 and starfield

And fallout 4 I guess

[stone comet]

couldnt imagine a worse trade off lmao

[lucid thorn]

Not to mention kids are mean, no way little dovahkiin is getting through school scott free

[cosmic zenith]

Feels like a cosmic insult that the following games ranged from mid to bad

[lucid thorn]

I got a normal name and kids picked on me, imagine his life

[lucid thorn]

Yeah like he and his parents got bullied for that

Bethesda just dunking on whole families

[thorn grove]

my ass did not have the renodx section ingame even though it was properly installed, so i was tripping in the general reshade settings LMFAO

[lucid thorn]

Oh there are so many option s in there

[thorn grove]

yeah and I was like ´bro I just want to have better HDR; which ass designed this shit'

[sick monolith]

antivirus may have eaten your reno addon file. add your game folder to the exclusions list

[thorn grove]

was already whitelisted, but reinstalling both now did the trick

but man what a trip

[thorn grove]

me

[sick monolith]

you must uncheck them all if you haven't already

[viscid wedge]

omg why are al those checked

[thorn grove]

yesyes I did, was for le meme

[lucid thorn]

Ah yes, hdr as God intended

[sleek veldt]

At this point I’m treating their RR as a cheap version of Path tracing

[hardy owl]

What do you guys think, is it better to play without RR and Raytracing or with them on?

[ocean onyx]

"Cheap"

[sleek veldt]

Yes cheap as in, not the real thing

Fake

A cheaper version of the original

Not as quality but just as expensive

Shitty would’ve been better I guess

[lucid thorn]

I do wish I could experience it :p

[sick monolith]

if your pc can handle it on for sure

[hardy owl]

I have a 4090 so I can but I notice that sometimes there are very weird visual bugs with it and the performance impact is horrid

[cosmic zenith]

I got a 4090 that runs twice as fast as that. Don't think that pic is accurate

[sick monolith]

that's probably DLAA. u must be using performance or ultra performance

[hardy owl]

It would be nice if they fix DLSS pipeline working correctly. DLAA works great but it's too intensive. My PC sounds like an airplane when using it

[cosmic zenith]

You may want to try it again since the latest patch. DLSS Q looks a lot cleaner now

Or uh... ultra performance apparently lol

[hardy owl]

So you mean forcing DLSS Q in nvidia inspector? Does it work with Ray Reconstruction?

[cosmic zenith]

Oh no, I meant quality. I'm using DLSS quality and it's not super muddy anymore

[ocean onyx]

Yeah it's ass

[feral bluff]

It still is 🔥

[ocean onyx]

Alan wake 2 runs pt better on worse hardware

[jade spruce]

@faint bobcat did ya fix the lighting fallof func?

[hardy owl]

I will try DLSS Quality with 4k and see how it looks and sounds in my computer lol.

[sick monolith]

dont force it in inspector so you don't black screen if you enable RR

[worn ibex]

Alan wake 2 still has baked light maps

And raster artifacts

[viscid wedge]

I haven't been able to sleep or pass time at a campfire in 2 days. I don't get what I need to do to get tired. I just wanna pass some time!

[ocean onyx]

Still far fewer artifacts than this game, and actually it has longer lods too

[cosmic zenith]

Had the same problem waiting for the camp expansion quest. I don't know how the game measured tiredness

[worn ibex]

It doesn’t actually

AW2 also has a big pop in problem

[ocean onyx]

Not nearly as bad as this game

[worn ibex]

I had to use an external program to increase the LOD

Objects don’t become shadow casting until you are very close

And it takes a huge perf hit

Like 10%

[viscid wedge]

it looks to be a bug, which is a shame it wasn't fixed in yesterdays patch

my boy has insomnia

[stone comet]

i think it activates like after 2pm or something

that you're "tired" enough

[viscid wedge]

its been 2 chapters since I've been able to sleep or rest. any time of day, just says I can't sleep now

googled it, there are tons of people with the issue

[stone comet]

even at night?

[tranquil estuary]

Acute insomnia achieved.

[sick monolith]

even after the patch it's broken?

[viscid wedge]

Of course lol

[cosmic zenith]

Should just remove that mechanic entirely and let the player sleep whenever

[stone comet]

you say of course but people are stupid as fuck lol

i guess they put it in so you dont just timeskip all the waiting and instead go do other stuff but it just makes it more annoying

[neon whale]

Reddit moment

[golden scaffold]

What does sleeping even give you?

[cosmic zenith]

Dude, some of the early access people struggled with puzzles that took me one glance to know the solution. I'm always blown away when people lack basic game theory or forward thinking skills

[stone comet]

skips time so you go into the next day and you're able to gain trust with people again + passes time on missions

[viscid wedge]

sometimes I just wanna skip the night, others like now I'd like to gain more rep with a dog for a pet. can only gain +30 a day

[cosmic zenith]

Oh, I guess you could game it to max trust quickly. But that's so minor, who cares?

[stone comet]

its only the mission part it matters more since some missiosn take 20+ hours to do ingame time

[viscid wedge]

also sometimes I just like to sleep at night for my immersion 🤣

[stone comet]

but theres plenty of other shit to do so i dont mind

[golden scaffold]

I actually want a mod that modifies the sound events. You think that's possible? I'm getting tired of hearing the same bird over and over and i would like to hear more crickets. If I could I would mod this myself but no clue how

[lament nymph]

what I learned from this game is that nobody trusts kliff, not even the greymane

trust starts at 0

he must be a horrible person

like just a greeting is enough to get u 5 trust

[golden scaffold]

I see it more as a friendship lvl

Greeting spam was also a thing in BDO

[cosmic zenith]

I mean, I wouldn't trust the monotone psycho who killed like 200 people yesterday without batting an eye

[stone comet]

update fucked my options though they dont save anymore zzzz

[golden scaffold]

Be happy they didn't bring over the knowledge minigame from bdo

[gaunt grove]

@worn ibex What program do you use for LOD increase?

[lament nymph]

this game has a memory issue or something, sometimes I have to save and reload for npc to spawn

[stone comet]

sometimes the npcs are just fucked off doing something elsewhere

[sick monolith]

how is this almost midnight?

[lament nymph]

it's a fantasy world

[cosmic zenith]

My nights haven't been dark since release. I don't know what happened

[raven bloom]

Anyone else streaming the game via moonlight? RenoDX addon crashes when streaming

[lament nymph]

how does this country even function when every single quarry are managed by bandits

[chrome sun]

my game keep crashing after the last update, didn't happen before

[lament nymph]

like what would they do without kliff

[quartz tendon]

Hmm, what am I looking for? It feels like the v 22.42.58.15 is more natural and the 22.43.25.16 has more colour but feels more gray-ish? Is this possible? I lean towards nr.1

[boreal thunder]

Sorry please watch this comparison instead, first comparison was stutter af with Discord open lol. Download it first don’t watch on discord

[worn ibex]

It’s like an FOV program, Google Alan wake 2 pop in you should find it

[cosmic zenith]

Goblins control the bandits and the weather

[golden scaffold]

Is this the same Shakatu as the one in BDO??

So far it's the only hard connection I found. The land itself it's hard to tell. Can't find any ocean in the north altho the starting area landscape matches what would be Serendia and desert is at the right place. I wish we would know more about this

This is still like my #1 fun thing to do in the game, trying to find connections

I was really surprised that Shakatu is "just there"

[narrow frost]

🫃

[stone comet]

nah 0 connection to BDO

but there are some shared names just for fun and are in the same universe

Marni's name isi also dropped

[golden scaffold]

Yeah was nice to see

So it's just pointless easter eggs?

[lament nymph]

or they just can't think of new names

[golden scaffold]

I wish there was actually something that would tie in the story, I'm coping hard guys

[quartz tendon]

Now the 23.03.03.20 was nicer than the 23.02.25.19 one. (second clip). See more details somehow, but still unsure what is the difference, just felt better.

[stone comet]

its pretty much just easter eggs yeah

[flint moss]

The sun im forests are making my eyes burn

[gentle hollow]

hii idk if is the right topic where to ask, but i just installed renodx for the first time, is normal to see a blue line on the top of the screen?

[quartz tendon]

with text?

[gentle hollow]

no text

[severe vine]

[quartz tendon]

Screenshot possible? hmm

[lament nymph]

only in this game does the poachers actually have their own private army

what is this world

[golden scaffold]

Whoa. This real?

[gentle hollow]

i hope is visible in the screenshot

[fresh field]

i do not see a blue line

[mental dune]

will try lol

[golden scaffold]

#🆘helpdesk

[shrewd ember]

does the renodx hdr addon work with the new patch?

[fresh field]

it was working for me as of last night after the patch. I havent launched the game today but i dont see why it still wouldnt

[boreal thunder]

03.20 is 5760x3240 downsampled to 4K, 03.19 is just 4K. All other settings the same. Does 03.20 look smooth enough for you?

[gleaming rivet]

yea works

[vivid iris]

no

[shrewd ember]

cheers guys, i'll check my installation

[fresh field]

check to make sure that windows defender isnt blocking the file, its been a thing

[faint bobcat]

yh, but the difference wasnt that big, the issue seems to be more so with how they authored their light sources

I added adjustments to reduce intensity / radius for them but now everything has boiling / noise becasue of broken / mismatched importance sampling

Looks like I need to find another shader

[shrewd ember]

Yep it was that - weird that it didn't block it yesterday though!

[vestal flicker]

And to say people were impressed with the engine... At this is almost UE amount of rendering non sense. Scary....

[fresh field]

that what happen when you do sweeping optimizations to make sure it runs on all consoles and stuff.

it runs pretty well but doesnt look as good as it could

[mental dune]

so u guys say

[jade spruce]

F

[mental dune]

4k performance looks better than 1440p quality

i m trying out now 4k DSR performance on my 1440p

[fresh field]

welli mean do you have a native 4k monitor/tv?

[uncut lynx]

4k performance also renders from 1080p and 1440p quality is lower than 1080p iirc

[mental dune]

i have a 1440p monitor and someone said to try 4k perforamnce DSR on it

than 1440p dlss quality

[uncut lynx]

you can also set a custom % in the nvidia app. I think 77.8% is 1080p for 1440p

[mental dune]

so with 4k performance i need x3 framegen to have same fps as i did with x2 on 1440p quality and RR on

[static crag]

what gpu do u have

I get like -5 fps difference

from 1440p quality to 4k performance

[mental dune]

5070ti

[static crag]

same

i mean they did update the game and mess with some things

related to dlss and rr

still gotta try

[mental dune]

how can it be just 5 fps lol

[static crag]

1440p dlss on quality with everything maxed out and rr I get around 60

[faint bobcat]

@jade spruce

[static crag]

on 4k dlss performance I get around 55

[faint bobcat]

looks kinda slop from my end

but anyways

this doesnt worek

breaks ReSTIR

[mental dune]

aa lemme try without frame gen

[deft pulsar]

it means you should ditch RR and optimize it for RR off🙏

[static crag]

instead of 4k you can also do like 3.7k or whatever

a little less than 4k

to get those 60

[mental dune]

i get in exact same scene 10 fps more on 1440 quality than 4k per

[static crag]

does it look better or the same to you

[sick monolith]

fire + place

[mental dune]

i can see in the distance less blurr on 4k per

but i need x3 frame gen for same fps output as 2x

lemme check lat

[static crag]

damn

I see alot of artifacts with 1440p dlss

thats why I choose to use 4k

actually let me show you which one I use for 60 fps

this one

[lament nymph]

there's a beggars sect in this game?

this is not wuxia

goddammit

[static crag]

doesnt look as good as 4k ofc but still looks better than 1440p

[mental dune]

so lat x3 4k per is like 72-76, on 1440p quality x2 latency is like 48-53

[static crag]

with more fps than 4k

try 1.78x

[mental dune]

ill try

[static crag]

I had to manually overwrite the config file

for that resolution

AppData\Local\Pearl Abyss\CD\save\user_engine_option_save.xml

[boreal thunder]

The second one is using 40-45 fps as base, frame Gen x 2. Does it look totally unacceptable to you guys? Please download to watch don’t watch on Discord

[sick monolith]

your video is 60 fps

[static crag]

what's the difference doe

what should I be looking for

[neon whale]

if you look at the actual resolution it's not much different. 1440p DLSS quality is 1706×960 while performance 4K is 1920×1080

[crude marsh]

PAMLOD FORMAT SUMMARY
============================================================

pamlod = PAM LOD descriptor file
  A per-object LOD configuration file that stores:
  1. LOD count and switch distances
  2. World-space bounding box
  3. Per-LOD material/texture assignments (with shader params)
  4. Mesh data for all LODs (vertex/index buffers)

File layout:
  [0x00]         u32  LOD count (8)
  [0x04]         u32  Mesh data offset (0x2620)
  [0x08]         u32  Checksum (0xBCCA1824)
  [0x0C]         u32  Version (4)
  [0x10..0x27]   6×f32  Bounding box (min xyz, max xyz)
  [0x28..0x47]   8×f32  LOD switch distances
  [0x48..0x4F]   padding (zeros)
  [0x50]         u32  LOD count (repeated)
  [0x54]         u32  ?
  [0x58]         u32  Material count per LOD (2)
  [0x5C]         u32  Section B offset (0x120A)
  [0x60]         u32  Section C offset (0x2544)
  [0x64..0x6B]   padding
  [0x6C..0x25CB]  8 LOD records × 1196 bytes
                   Each record: 2 material sub-records
                   Each sub-record: texture.dds name + shader params + material name
  [0x25CC..0x261F]  LOD mesh offset table
  [0x2620..EOF]  Mesh data (vertex/index buffers for all LODs)

Materials in this file:
  - kb_floor_concrete_11  (kb_floor_concrete_11.dds)
  - kb_floor_asphalt_02   (kb_floor_asphalt_02.dds)``` 👀

[static crag]

i like left

[boreal thunder]

Yes, capped by Nvidia. But second one has lower base frame rate

Both use frame gen 2x

[chrome sun]

Using dsr and display commander let windows in the custom resolution After closing the game, not you ?

[crude marsh]

especially the dlss 4.5 models get a lot better the higher the output resolution

[static crag]

huh

display commander?

[chrome sun]

An addon

[static crag]

I dont get any problems with dsr

[sick monolith]

frames are synced in capture.. it's hard to tell

[static crag]

I set it to fullscreen, change the resolution and thats it

close the game and nothing happens

[chrome sun]

It doesn't apears in my game settings

[static crag]

I had to manually overwrite the config file
for that resolution
AppData\Local\Pearl Abyss\CD\save\user_engine_option_save.xml

[mental dune]

thing is, i can see the difference in game, less blur in distance lol

[chrome sun]

Unless i use DC to force the res

[boreal thunder]

Left is 4K, right is 5760x3240 DLDSR downsampled to 4K, all other settings identical

[chrome sun]

I'll check that thanks

[hardy owl]

Have you guys noticed how bright night sky is st night? Its 3 am and it lools like sunrise. Its so weird

[boreal thunder]

Is the right one smooth enough though disregarding latency ?

[static crag]

ok turns out that I am using vlc and the default windows video player and vlc looks alot better

I had to use both to compare

[neon whale]

to prevent such an aggressive culling do you need to change something in the Bounding box?

[static crag]

thought you were using a reshade or something like that lol

[sick monolith]

again in the video it could be smooth due to the capture sync. smoothness and feel is up to the actual user

[static crag]

okay so

[boreal thunder]

For this game in particular with RR on I feel DLDSR makes a huge difference in image quality. The captures though maxed out in bitrate in the Nvidia overlay would inevitably still have compression

[golden scaffold]

https://youtu.be/Xje5a9SLqsE?is=QzquS7410FxBvSHk

Youtuber SDR moment:

"Some people enjoy this game, but I don't, because I can't see anything."

"I spent hours tuning both of my 4K TV and gaming monitor, and it's still either too bright, or too dark on both of them. This game sucks."

[static crag]

in 5k the textures look less blurry

[faint bobcat]

You fellas

do you even play the game

to busy posting here

[mental dune]

ye, 4k performance looks visible better than 1440p quality

[sick monolith]

we are waiting for you sir

[rough granite]

need to pass time to cope and wait for patches

[faint bobcat]

The only people that should be in this thread are me, Jon, Laz an dShortfuse

[static crag]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[uncut lynx]

No, I make it look perfect, am happy for 20 seconds and move on to the next game wdym

[golden scaffold]

Could ask the same

When I don't pay I lurk here

[mental dune]

i think i will use x3 frame gen and 4k per instead of x2 and 1440q lol

[neon whale]

time to make a gaming discusion section of the discord

monkaS

[teal pumice]

this game needs a seperate thread to fix

[jade spruce]

oh well

[teal pumice]

[static crag]

I find that 3x and 4x have this weird effect

idk the term

soapy?

soap

opera?

shi idk

[jade spruce]

oi, I need to complain about the slop too

[static crag]

looks too smooth and sometimes has like little breaks

[rough granite]

so if we change the 10000 objects LOD distances one by one we are gold ...

[chrome sun]

What do you change in the file for the resolution ? i don't find the line

[static crag]

yeah so

[static crag]

i just checked mine

and it also doesnt show

[golden scaffold]

Why does this feel so familiar

[crude marsh]

I could probably script something

[faint bobcat]

bGoodLODS=True?

[mental dune]

is cpu being 13% normal lol

[static crag]

yeah mine stays around that too

[rough granite]

i'm not even sure it would include things like grass and stuff as its part of the proc. gen. it seems

[static crag]

its better than 100%

[molten kiln]

Just asking, you have a 5070ti, right ? What is your CPU ?
I have a normal 5070, but my cpu is a Ryzen 5 5600x, even with RR off, I am strugling to get 60fps with ultra Preset at 1440p DLSS quality

[sick monolith]

i waited for ritsu and lazorr to fix clair obscur and you expect us to play CD in this state?

[static crag]

yeah, I have a i7-13700k

[viscid wedge]

maybe, maybe not. Thats not a lot to go off of. CPU usage is quite low on modern ones in this game.

[static crag]

thats weird

do you have lighting setting on max?

[molten kiln]

On Ultra
I know my cpu kinda sucks to my gpu
But I really thought this should run better

[static crag]

nah its a good pair

I have mine overclocked

but its like 5-10 fps difference

[thin kelp]

weird, im on linux and 6800xt and getting native 1440p 60fps on ultra

[sick monolith]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/testing-cpu-scaling-in-crimson-desert-x3d-wins-but-not-by-much-and-raptor-lake-shines

[static crag]

linux?

can you play denuvo games on linux?

[mental dune]

these stats, 4k perf, x3 frame gen ,all cinematic, 5070ti 9800x3d ( hdr on dont mind the brighntess)

[viscid wedge]

thats not user benchmark is it

[molten kiln]

Isn't 40 base fps bad ? For the x3

[mental dune]

probasbly , but i have RR on

[viscid wedge]

40fps base is bad for any sort of FG

[golden scaffold]

It's really bad on my end

[thin kelp]

ofc

[molten kiln]

I will try to DDU again later

[mental dune]

x3 frame gen looks 10x better than 40 no frame gen lol

[sick monolith]

try the goated 576.88

[golden scaffold]

How about lowering the resolution and no framegen it's the tradeoff I do

[static crag]

576.88?

[molten kiln]

I mean, if you don't use frame gen, don't you get 60 fps ?

[static crag]

why

[mental dune]

lemme see

[molten kiln]

I am on latest, but ok, gonna give a try

[golden scaffold]

Inconsistent jerky 60 fps within framegen was just not worth the increase in fidelity I got with a higher DLSS preset. Yes the distant mountains and trees look pixelated but it's not worth it

[sick monolith]

why not? nvidia updates are downgrades these days

[mental dune]

50 no framegen , 120 x3

50 looks choppy af to me lol

[viscid wedge]

Zen3 (Ryzen 5000) isn't listed here but it'll be somewhere between the last place and second last.

Resolution plays no part in the job the CPU has to do and as long as its fast enough to keep the GPU happy, you'll have a good time. If your GPU limited at 1440p with a normal 5070, it shouldn't be a problem. Are you?

[static crag]

damn

[mental dune]

0 chance that with RR on

[static crag]

i didnt know the cpu made that big of a difference

i mean its a 5090 doe

[solar bone]

of course cpu makes a difference

[dapper lake]

Could be wrong - but doesnt resolution affect CPU performance in RT/PT workloads like Cyberpunk?

[static crag]

worse gpus would it be around the same difference?

[thin kelp]

always

you dont want Athlon 200GE running with 5090

or something like R5 1600

[boreal thunder]

Mine is 8-9% but I don’t think it matters because most games don’t utilize that many cores

[viscid wedge]

Thats not relevant. Thats used to eliminate the GPU from influencing the results.

[molten kiln]

Got it, it's definetly my cpu then
Well, that sucks then haha

Thanks for the information

[static crag]

you didnt answer

show me ur in game settings

graphics

do you have lighting set to max?

[viscid wedge]

Depends. Zen3 will be quite a way down that list, if not second to last, but this game is pretty light on CPU's. I could see with RR on you being GPU limited (which you want) at 1440p.

[molten kiln]

I answered, my lightning is on Ultra setting

[static crag]

oh mb

[static crag]

what dlss are you using?

4, 4.5 or 4.5 preset l

[viscid wedge]

Would simply need to look at your usages to get a good idea, on a basic level. If your 5070 is consistently sitting at max usage, you're probably not losing much. Upgrading your GPU though, you'd really want a faster platform to keep up with it.

[molten kiln]

4.0 quality

[static crag]

damn thats really weird

[fresh field]

where is my pentium 4 on that list? I have it paired with a 5090

[boreal thunder]

Even on 5090 I am using performance lol

[boreal thunder]

I don’t see my CPU on the list either

But RR seems to scale a lot with rendering res so DLDSR is worth it especially at lower res monitors.

[static crag]

yup

[molten kiln]

Yeah :/ but ok

[fresh field]

i have a 7800X3D paired with a 4080 Super.

1440p, DLSS balanced, all ultra settings, RR on, FG on, getting on average 120 FPS

[boreal thunder]

Even on a 4K tv the improvement is very noticeable using dldsr at 2.25x

[solar bone]

love me some 4k downsampling'

[neon whale]

remember that this is only in 1080p

the lower the resolution the more the CPU matters

[static crag]

ohhh

right

didnt notice

[quartz tendon]

Sorry for posting, I thought you guys already have a chat-group for yourselves too? Like a private small group off the server or a hidden one in this server? I would love to help, but have a lot to learn before I would be of any use. Thanks for everything, will send a donation to all you guys when I can afford it.

[viscid wedge]

The more it can matter. CPU has the same work to do in a game at 480p as it does at 4K. That doesn't change.

What does change is shifting the limiting factor elsewhere (the GPU, ideally)

[static crag]

resolution does make the gpu push harder

[viscid wedge]

Yes, which could shift the the limiting factor to that, which is what you want. Gaming while CPU bound is not a fun experience.

[static crag]

yup

[ornate arch]

hello all!
I have a question if I may- Is there any way to enable RR without DLSS looking like a blurry mess?

[static crag]

No!!!!

you can try DSR

[boreal thunder]

I think with the number of things and NPCs going on they can or should utilize more cores? I know in most GPU bound games my CPU usage won’t go over 20% anyways but 8-9% is just absurd

[static crag]

if youre playing in 1440p then try to upscale with DSR

[ornate arch]

yeah.. I guess this is on Nvidia to fix. thanks

[viscid wedge]

No, its on the game dev to fix. DLSS works fine, when used properly. This game is just funky.

[static crag]

yup

[viscid wedge]

All things considered, I think this game will be in a much better state in 6 months. (i hope)

[boreal thunder]

Rarely would one function basically change the whole game’s image and make it miles better even than “cinematics” RT, and yet it basically halves your FPS or worse

[deft pulsar]

anyone getting stutters after the update?

[viscid wedge]

no more or less than before. (as in, here or there but nothing consistently annoying)

[chrome sun]

Clear cache

[sick monolith]

"no RR" does DLAA actually look better to you than native 4k?

the distance rendering with any form of DLSS is horrible

[boreal thunder]

Yes I did but turned out it was Discord acting out in the background..

[boreal thunder]

DLAA was broken with artifacts and 5090 can’t run DLAA at 60 with RR on

Or you can do it anyway and get around 30fps

[sick monolith]

but what do you think if RR is not considered

[jade kettle]

windows defender flagged the renodx for crimson desert. i assume its some weird false positive?

[boreal thunder]

I only used RT cinematics briefly during the opening scene can’t really tell. I lowered depth of field as well and everything is quite sharp and clear even for the far away objects

[jade kettle]

ok never saw the edit on the pins, my bad

[sick monolith]

yeah with these set to 0 native 4k seems fine

[boreal thunder]

Yes these things are always 0

I don’t think we have an RCAS sharpness slider though otherwise would try to turn that up and compare with dldsr

[sick monolith]

midnight

[boreal thunder]

Dang the Atmos really kick in after patch

[mossy gust]

oh good, the camera mod fixed the horse issue, i'll have to give it another shot

[solar bone]

discord butchering hdr screenshots lmao

[naive jackal]

Looks like the human warrior from the WarCraft III intro cinematic

[solar bone]

covered the picture in piss yellow

[true dagger]

well the image is sdr xd

[viscid wedge]

what are you capturing with? This doesn't happen with ReShade or SK's screenshots

[novel kayak]

Is there any fixes for shadows that are kinda flickering until you get close to them? I’m using RR. Or is that just how the game is right now

[solar bone]

I converted jxr to avif and it looks fine before i upload it to discord

[true dagger]

i just use SK to take a png hdr ss

[viscid wedge]

this is the way (or reshade)

[sick monolith]

use reshade.. ss is in the game folder along with the exe by default

[viscid wedge]

though I just started to play with FrameGen on last night and SK freaks out and my game crashes when I enable it. Lauching with out SK its fine.

[solar bone]

I guess this does look more normal

[true dagger]

weird, i’ve played for 3 hours yesterday after the patch and about an hour or so today, both with SK no issues, FG on

[true dagger]

yeee looks way better

[solar bone]

reshade works fine for screenshots i guess

hate running games through SK

[mossy gust]

i wish windows defender would fuck off, i've already told it to allow reno

[true dagger]

i’ve also set SK to pace native frames, latency mode

[viscid wedge]

i'll give it another go. the last time I tried after crashing the game wouldn't even load when launching through SK.

I figured all i was using it for was screenshots so I'll just use reshade

[solar bone]

Looks like reshade does just as fine png's

[chrome sun]

It's not fixed for me, maybe he upload the wrong file

[mossy gust]

yeah, i was going off of what the description said, tried in game and still messed up

[chrome sun]

Didn't see, he uploaded 1.5 20 min ago

[mossy gust]

i just tried the newest one and still doesn't work

[pine star]

Sorry for asking, where to find the download?

[mossy gust]

pins

top right

[pine star]

aaah thanks!

[flint moss]

Ah damn I also saw the update and was eager to try it

[true dagger]

could you guys link the camera mod please? wanna see how it looks compared to vanilla, ill check the images

[daring orbit]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/65?tab=files

big improvement imo

[golden scaffold]

goated mod

i want the bdo style camera and this might be close enough

[true dagger]

pretty cool honestly, you guys are saying tho it’s not working rn?

[daring orbit]

works on my end, not sure what might not be compatible

[golden scaffold]

uhh imma trying it out soon idk yet

[crude marsh]

I have a feeling the issues are just related to games various integrity checks

replacing the camera file with modifications absolutely does work

[mossy gust]

it constantly zooms the camera in and out when you ride a horse and sprint with it

[crude marsh]

oh, thats because sprinting and not have different FOVs

[daring orbit]

this individual just released 1.5 which is supposed to address that

not sure how

[mossy gust]

there's a steadycam setting but it doesn't work half the time

[daring orbit]

"Fixed the remaining zoom effect during horse dash (Player_Ride_Horse_Dash
had a different FoV than the base horse preset). Horse camera is now
stable at all speeds."

they did 2 updates in like, less than an hour

[mossy gust]

still doesn't work on the newest update though, maybe the next one

[daring orbit]

which version are you on?

[mossy gust]

the one released at 12:29

[daring orbit]

well anyway, i definitely think it is an improvement, im not going back to the vanilla

[mossy gust]

i'll use it once the horse is fixed

[south mortar]

Hi! New here, how do I install RenoDX fo CD?

[golden scaffold]

guys we're finally saved, they fixed HDR

[ocean onyx]

you need to install reshade for the game, and then once you've done that you need to place the addon in the pinned messages in the game's folder

[lament nymph]

hi! new here, how do I install renodx to CD

[ocean onyx]

we don't need to shitpost about it, everybody was new once

[lament nymph]

... idk what these ppl that mess with reshade think they are doing

[ocean onyx]

those are the engineers working on dlss5

[golden scaffold]

yeah so anyway just put the addon file next to the game.exe after reshade (with addon) is installed

[lament nymph]

tbh with you unless a game really needed help in this case, I'm not a fan of reshade in general

sometimes, in some extreme cases it breaks the rendering pipeline for some reasons

[rough granite]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/84

[lament nymph]

even if you tick nothing during the installation

is there a better way to lift the fog of war than running around aimlessly like a chicken

[naive jackal]

That's how it works with every other game for me but since yesterday that just causes CD to crash before it even gets to the main menu

[golden scaffold]

as it's stated on every reno mod: this is not a reshade. and it does actually interfere with the rendering pipeline. As a wise man once said: I choose not to respect the "developers intent"

[crude marsh]

reshade basically necessary in every game given reno is necessary in every game

[lament nymph]

I'm just talking about reshade in general

[crude marsh]

reshade is for... reno, frame pacing, and rcas

this is the way

[daring orbit]

and shader toggle

also erss

[golden scaffold]

you guys not giving lilium's hdr analyzer any credit, that shit is life to me 😟

[crude marsh]

well, thats kind of a default in my head I guess ha

[faint bobcat]

"I wonder why shadows shimmer"

Proceeds to uses a 1024x1024 shadowmap for the whole fucking town

[crude marsh]

RCAS do come from lilium

[faint bobcat]

[neon whale]

Don't towns have bells you can ring that lift the fog in their regions?

[worn ibex]

A game with alr blown out exposure, what do we need? More exposure

[lucid thorn]

Yes

[lament nymph]

towns?

[faint bobcat]

[golden scaffold]

I FIXED THE HDR

[lucid thorn]

Wat

[worn ibex]

Tlou games are good tbf

[golden scaffold]

it's a meme reference

[analog parrot]

Weird, I tried to use DSR but I can't see its resolution ingame. Never happened before

[golden scaffold]

somebody pls post it

[worn ibex]

Wallahi

[lucid thorn]

Thank you I'm old

[neon whale]

Towns. Villages, whatever you wanna call them. There are bell towers you can ring

[lucid thorn]

Places of rock and stone where people commune

[golden scaffold]

actually a thing

[lucid thorn]

Oh I did not know that

Woops

Did you guys know

[daring orbit]

ugh i tried to play tlou, looks amazing, game play is definitely not for me

[lament nymph]

pink flame

[lucid thorn]

If you are carrying a bounty you can focus on your horse and put him on the horse, so you don't have to have him in your arms the whole time

[neon whale]

Couldn't finish the first one myself

[lucid thorn]

It also means you can do 2 bounties at once

[neon whale]

Didn't even try to play the second

[golden scaffold]

yeah you should know this meme welcome to the server 😂

[lament nymph]

I mean he looks so happy

[lucid thorn]

Thank you I feel initiated

[fleet jacinth]

INSANE

[lament nymph]

can't blame a guy for being happy his mind thinks he fixed something

[golden scaffold]

[lucid thorn]

This is me every time I solve a bug in my code only for me to realize 3 seconds later I did not fix it

[lament nymph]

happiness is in the minds

[golden scaffold]

it's the funniest thing with the saturation up to 75 on the video it's what makes it so good

easy fix for better colors guys, set saturation to max!!!

[lament nymph]

I'll be honest I was intrigued what does it looks like with his settings

so I set mine exactly like his

it was not good

maybe becuase I skipped the part where I go to windows hdr calibration tool

[lucid thorn]

The fact that reno can pull the value from widows calibration tool is handy

[golden scaffold]

i'm not sure who made this probably Forge, all credit to them