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[stone comet]

zamn

[deft pulsar]

yeah the lighting is totally bonked

[quartz tendon]

Happens in some scenes, I think depends on camera if RR is working correctly

[lament nymph]

for the not technically minded ppl, that's more graphics than a nintendo 64, that's like 128 graphics

[vivid iris]

@mortal wolf did you already try skipping that tone map block to see the output?

[distant prairie]

It's honestly impressive how low the ray count is without RR

[mortal wolf]

I didn't, but the input texture is untonemapped from what I saw

[crude marsh]

1/16th per pixel

[distant prairie]

PS5 baseline I'm guessing

[vivid iris]

oh, I guess I should make sure any changes in this shader are taking

is that what you meant by bad decomp?

[mortal wolf]

yeah, that's what I meant by bad decompile

[deft pulsar]

yeah most likely though PS5 has RT low and high

[vivid iris]

I thought I remembered doing a 5x multiplier on the output but maybe that was only a test I did on the other post shader

[deft pulsar]

which means it's probably lower in PS5 performance mode

[vivid iris]

I'm gonna be so upset if that's the issue...

[distant prairie]

When people say it has good optimization it's because the RT is targeting first generation RT cores 😂

[vivid iris]

I should have caught that

[autumn root]

Holy.. Just restart my game and Renodx don't work anymore 🙁

[crude marsh]

people have used my tool to change the camera already 🙂

[distant prairie]

Living proof as to why console rt is almost always some wack shit like AO or sum

[lament nymph]

when will this game has more graphics

[distant prairie]

50/50 they patch in better RR

[jade flame]

Noticed that CD uses DLSS 310.5.2
Has anyone tried 310.5.3? Wondering if that would improve anything.

[vivid iris]

@mortal wolf yeah if I multiply the output by 5 it definitely works

[viscid wedge]

see the pins, your av caught it. happened to everyone today

[deft pulsar]

either modder fix it or we wait 6 months for Pearl Abyss to actually do something

[vivid iris]

omg....

[autumn root]

Damn. I will destroy this shitty AV.

😂

[subtle sinew]

Are forge's fixes available yet for DL?

[lament nymph]

digital foundry lied to us all for views and sponsorships, they have always been bad but this is blatant

[vivid iris]

gonna kms, I'm just a fucking idiot

@mortal wolf this was how I tested, see the problem?

[deft pulsar]

yeah that's actually true, I mean either they tested it for like 2 hours at most

[cloud sonnet]

should I use the renodx file from the pinned message here or the snapshot on GH?

[distant prairie]

Lost their IGN money, gained direct payment from developers. Zero conflict of interest there

[lament nymph]

hardware unboxed is like " we have no baseline so if other ppl say it's good, it must be so here's some broken chart"

[mortal wolf]

You use slop one day and already it has siphoned brain cells

[vivid iris]

it's always the stupid shit that I spend the most time on

fucking "forgot a semicolon" ass mistake

[deft pulsar]

yeah absolutely cannot be trusted anymore, used to be the reference for tech analysis

[jade flame]

Replaced the DLSS.dll and DLAA is still broke, Fuck.

[lament nymph]

you have to replace where the dlss is at in the pipeline

the game has it at the wrong place

[vivid iris]

wait so this means these post effects are being processed in pq for hdr and srgb for sdr

why the fuck

[distant prairie]

I had my doubts. Longtime viewer since like 2016. But once they went """independent""" and started doing damage control for Nvidia I was like ok here we go

[remote mountain]

So everything on low with RR on is still 90 fps with 9070xt and 9800x3d. Nice. So if we want RR we are just better off enabling FG and putting everything to max and bear with using FG?

[jade flame]

That doesn't sound like something I can just do in NVPI. ^^;

[lament nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-interactive-optimization-optimize-unreal-engine-ue4-gif-18219894813206068623

[narrow frost]

The 40 GPU Benchmark by them was annoying to watch, so many GPUs either were flipped or was showing way lower performance than they should.

[karmic void]

U are him

[ruby tusk]

I must've missed that, could you show?

[deft pulsar]

no wonder my screen dims to like 100 nits when there's rocks close up

[karmic void]

blurry closed by image is because of RR only?

[lament nymph]

must I remind you they said the game went gold 3 months ago, tech outlets and their positive reviews out, they all out to scam us

and successfully too

[crude marsh]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/62 see comments

[distant prairie]

The game is still good tho 😂

[lament nymph]

have u been able to fix the drawing distance

[deft pulsar]

yeah that's why this shit is annoyinh

[mortal wolf]

SwapChain upgrade starts feeling more attractive now, doesn't it?

[crude marsh]

I have not

[distant prairie]

I miss when pushing out draw distance meant changing lines in an INI file 😭 take me back

[deft pulsar]

the good and bad of proprietary engines ig

[crude marsh]

I spent a while trying to find the properties in memory for textures, shadows, and LODs but denuvo obfuscates the fuck out of it

[distant prairie]

Praying they remove Denuvo after a few months 🙏

[vivid iris]

alright well I'll get to work on SDR support then

[lament nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEBAgTozBEU

proudly present

[crude marsh]

and they seem to be coded into the game binary unless its in files I havent found

[lament nymph]

masterclass of scamming

[jade flame]

2nd worse thing about this game atm is how I have to babysit the camera when riding horse. Holy fuck man...

[deft pulsar]

even in combat thats no joke

[lament nymph]

somehow my horse now when starting and I double tap

[lament nymph]

he zips so fast

can't there just be a better way to control a horse like idk ... hold X ?

[faint bobcat]

makes interior lighting more 'realistic' but its darker now sooooo

use ya laterns

[distant prairie]

Dam give this man some l i g h t b o u n c e

[jade flame]

Looks the same as when I use DLAA....

[lament nymph]

I use my lantern and it's darker all around me so

[ruby tusk]

at least we have a reason to use them now

[faint bobcat]

A small candle doesnt have the power of a billion torch lights

well it does in this game

fusion reactors

[ruby tusk]

nuclear candles

[lament nymph]

I thought ray tracing is supposed to make shadows and GI realistic, this game is not realistic at all

rock reflects like glass

especially light sources

[jade flame]

RT in this game is only running at 1/16 so....

[lament nymph]

and the water has never been uglier

[faint bobcat]

this will be a toggle

[woven ice]

so do I use HDR with the addon version from yesterday or hold onto SDR for now until a future release?

[lament nymph]

you know when senua 2 intro starts and I was like ... is this pre rendered or real time, I was blown away when it was just rendering

[faint bobcat]

anyways flashbangs ahh lights are gone

[lament nymph]

this game is not it

[golden scaffold]

This has anything to do with the autoexposure?

[vivid iris]

use hdr

[lament nymph]

it just makes the light sources not electric powered

[lament nymph]

how many more ppl are gonna come in and say renodx stopped working for them and it was fine yesterday

[woven ice]

btw , for some reason, DLSS quality looks worse than DLSS balanced/performance for me (with RR on) - the grass is super blurry and it makes me dizzy

[jade flame]

yes

[faint bobcat]

probably should have recorded HDR

[rotund raptor]

NEED THIS

[golden scaffold]

This looks so much better

Can't wait

[lament nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/too-bright-overwhelming-glow-make-it-stop-hurt-light-scream-reaction-gif-12475821297860780622

[deft pulsar]

lets gooo

[silent pike]

@lament nymph you mentioned DLSS files in wrong place in game folder, could you explain please from where to where I should move?

[lament nymph]

no, wrong place in the pipeline

when did I ever say folder

https://tenor.com/view/whitney-avalon-tcb-tin-can-bros-wayward-guide-untrained-eye-gif-22186899

[naive jackal]

It's at times like that qd-oleds crappy panel dimming is a blessing, if my coolmaster IPS mini led still worked this game would have left me with two empty eye sockets

[analog parrot]

nice, is it a mod available somewhere?

[lament orchid]

guys am I crazy or does changing dlss down from DLAA also affect LODS ? I tried using the custom value in the NVIDIA APP but the game just ignores it

[naive jackal]

It really is like back in the 360/PS3 gen where games like assassins creed tried to burn your eyes to toast anytime white material was on screen

[lament nymph]

back then video games are more visually stable than rn

[drowsy iron]

I saw a video showing foliage quality affected LODs of random ground clutter in the abyss

[lament nymph]

then we have shits like mgs 5 that ran beautifully on the ps3

[distant prairie]

ts built like a Skyrim modlist lmao

[lament nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgsv-venom-snake-ocelot-diamond-dogs-gif-17769801128935063594

ps3 game btw

[rotund raptor]

Where can i find this?

[naive jackal]

MGS 5 was just a dope game with a lot of undeserved hate, the online part and not being able to ng+ for fresh playthroughs sucks though

[crude marsh]

currently only see talk of it in the comments on my upload

[lament nymph]

hate is always deserved, because they piss off a wrong part of the fanbase or because gamers are stupid in general, no hate is undeserved

but it was a good game

till you get to the mission where you go to africa and u can't kill the child soldiers

then I left a bad review cause not being able to kill those kids are annoying

[naive jackal]

lol

I see a modder has managed to integrate Ground Zeroes into the main game

As a flashback when you're on the chopper back with miller after rescuing him

[lament nymph]

oh nice

least it's consistent in the story department now

[stone comet]

i got a qdoled but it doesnt feel dim at all 😭

[naive jackal]

Gen 4? Mine's an MSI 271QPX gen 3 so peak 1000 has that crappy abl, the eotf boost added in firmware updates is nice for brightness though but does have issues is some scenes

[stone comet]

fo27q3 3rd gen i think as well

[fresh field]

reno cant stop working if you exclude your steam/games folder from windows defender

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[distant prairie]

Opinions on the 2024 LG B4? Is this a good OLED, I bought in early.

[pearl goblet]

If you’re using it and you like it it’s a good OLED.

[naive jackal]

Here's the mod btw https://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/mods/2402

[stone comet]

saw that a bit ago super sick

[distant prairie]

I ask because afaik all OLED's are good (7/10 at least)

[neat tree]

Does anyone else have really bright nights? I was lead to believe the night time would be realistically dark but it seems like something has changed. The sky looks actually bright often in the middle of the night.

[viscid wedge]

1:30AM

[true dagger]

yea i noticed my nights being bright too tbh

[lament nymph]

it's a fantasy world, bright nights are normal

git over it

[true dagger]

i dont mind it at all, looks nice, i just remember seeing in the vids that they looked dark af

[lapis smelt]

Wonder if this was changed in the day 0 patch, was also led to believe nights should be darker

[zenith plank]

When you use the lantern it is darker around you.

[stone comet]

yeah the videos showed kinda pitch black

[faint bobcat]

"soo that was a lie..."

Yh nights outside of that one raining storm weather type is pretty much blue day

Kek

[distant prairie]

The moon is actually cyan in Korea

[neat tree]

It even looks like dusk perpetually if I am at a high elevation. Actually redish yellow hue on the horizon at 2 am

[faint bobcat]

The moon and sun are just a disk with no texture

The moon is just a white disk

[woven ice]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_sun#White_nights White nights specifically

[fresh field]

stop looking up at things when youre supposed to be looking ahead

[faint bobcat]

"it will get clamped away in SDR anyways so why bother"

[naive jackal]

Hilarious that you get these games that make night basically day with a blue filter but pointlessly give you a torch, then you have Cyberpunk that makes some areas really dark but in their cyberpunk world nobody seems to have access to nightvision

[plain fractal]

Does someone know what exactly is affected by the DLSS Setting? I think I read something about it affecting texutre res and maybe other things?

[distant prairie]

Yet another casualty of mipmap bias being automatically scaled to render resolution. ESO does this too

[karmic void]

imma be honest

[plain fractal]

Because when forcing the DLSS percantage to 90% via Nvidia App, I still notice a big FPS difference when switching the ingame DLSS Mode, but Resolution doesnt change

[karmic void]

this game is trash but I'm having so much fun

fuck u can do ANYTHING!!!

[lament nymph]

6/10 game, enjoyable if you have time

it's like playing an mmo

which it is

without the multiplayer part

[golden scaffold]

Isn't this what we wanted?

[karmic void]

I don't agree, the game is genuinely fun and challenging

[lament nymph]

I liked black desert cause I got to p2w my way into bullying ppl

[karmic void]

exploration is top tier

[lament nymph]

this game doesn't give me the same highs as being a horrible person

[naive jackal]

If you're enjoying this then i recommend also checking out Gothic, Risen, Elex, and Of Ash and Steel if you haven't played those games already

[faint bobcat]

Mid: the game

[naive jackal]

That Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon is really nice too if you don't mind an Elder Scrolls meets Souls type of mashup

[lament nymph]

I got to write my review for my group so I gotta finish it

[plain fractal]

@faint bobcat Is the Black flickering bar that appears on top of the screen when turning on DLAA + HDR a known problem? And will RenoDx be able to fix this? turning on RR also doesnt seem to fix it

[lament nymph]

however painful it may be

I figured this game would be like a week at most to 100%

we'll see

[karmic void]

ya but mid very fun

the sandbox is very well executed

[distant prairie]

AA RPG's take creative risks that aren't economically possible otherwise

[naive jackal]

tbh i find a lot of todays highly rated games to be mid as well, especially the Sony ones, Death Stranding was peak though, expected to really dislike that agme but ended up really enjoying it

[mortal wolf]

@vivid iris #1469072401450012774 message Reinhard scalable extended numbers are here

[distant prairie]

new AAA game drops "overwhelmingly positive"
looks inside: paint by numbers trope ridden frictionless interactive cutscene

👶 🧸

[naive jackal]

lol

[lament nymph]

I like the last of us 2 gameplay loop

killing ppl brutally creatively has always been fun

and that game has a gazillion way to brutally murder ppl

[distant prairie]

bait used to be believable

[lament nymph]

I mean, shooting them in the head is one thing, shooting them in the legs for them to bleed out is another thing

[naive jackal]

Haha you should try Soldier of Fortune and Soldier of Fortune 2 Double Helix, we don't speak about the third game though

[lament nymph]

shooting them in the groin and let them beg for their lives and u kill them anyways is another thing

u can tear from to shreds with a nail bomb

or light them on fire

u can throw glass bottles to their heads till they die

[lament nymph]

if there's any games specialized in brutality last of us 2 is it

besides mortal kumback

[paper oriole]

third game is almost "so bad it's good" territory. great fun with a friend, ripping the game.

[distant prairie]

SoF SPAS my beloved

[naive jackal]

Soldier of Fortune had peoples intestines falling out from shotgun blasts, headshots having exit wounds with the bits of bone sticking out, full limb dismemberment, that was i wanna say 2000 or 2001

[distant prairie]

SoF VS FEAR SPAS idk if I can chose

[lament nymph]

video games used to be hella creative

[naive jackal]

Made by Raven Software, who unfortanely ended up a CoD slave studio

[distant prairie]

Banished to the Call of Duty mines RIP

[lament nymph]

last call of duty sold horribly

I wonder how they are gonna make the next one

[distant prairie]

Not even that, as a support studio to make Black Ops DLC

[lament nymph]

battlefield was also a nothingburger, sold well even tho it was mid as hell

just the gaming landscape we are in rn

[naive jackal]

BF6 had the worst BF SP campaign as well imho, my favourite BF is still 2142 in titan mode

[distant prairie]

I'm split between BC2 and Battlefield 2 on PS2 for most hours played. I liked 3 but completely lost interest after that

I bought 6 to play with my brother and it was fun in that regard but it's clear they pivoted the design half way through to be more like 6 vs an infantry focused game like 2042

6 is piecemeal and half baked

[lament nymph]

6 is made for COD kids

small maps, forced engagements from all sides

get in, get shot at, get out, get in

[naive jackal]

2142 was between 2 and 3, it was dope, anti grav tanks, mechs, apcs that lauched players out in pods, and the titans big flying aircraft carriers that were piloted by players, you coulld board them and fight your way to the engine and blow it up to win the match

[lament nymph]

6 I finally got an available jet, I just took off and I was dead

it was like 5s

also takes like 2s till it's out of bounds

not a fun game for vehicles

nor is it fun for the infantry that actually want to play stragetically

half assed on all fronts

[true dagger]

ive been saying since the open beta that BF6 is literally cod MW19 just battlefield style, all of my friends said nah im wrong, now i dont see any of them even launch the game anymore

[lament nymph]

it always take time for the right ppl to be proven right

[true dagger]

i played the beta, literally ran around like i did in mw19 cuz im good at it lmao and i was top fragging almost all of my games, that made me not want to buy the game anymore and i didnt xD

[faint bobcat]

apparently yes, what causes it I dunno

Can I check, umm maybe

[worn ibex]

I like the story of tlou 2 and even if that is decisive, the gameplay loop of that game is anything but decisive, its top tier

[lament nymph]

^ same opi

[distant prairie]

why your pfp jeffery epstein big dog

[quartz flame]

wonder if i can install and use some reshade effects to with this renoDX addon?

want to install clarity first

[true dagger]

ofc u can install other shaders and use them

[distant prairie]

Any word on removing chromatic aberration from rendering?

[true dagger]

its part of reno, there is a slider

[spare dirge]

So I dont use HDR. I heard rumor that this also fixes SDR tonemapper, would using Renodx with the WIP CD addon be of use to me?

[distant prairie]

I didn't realize the snapshot was already usable

I came here for info 😭

[spare dirge]

simple y/n instead of a laugh emoji would help:(

[brittle egret]

nothing wrong with enjoying a story in a game (I never played sony movie games, because I dont vibe with them)

but isnt the gameplay in the TLOU games more or less just follow a script with minimum gameplay, its mostly focused on the story?

[low crane]

Did windows defender detect that so many people downloaded this reno, and thus blocked it suddenly?

[viscid wedge]

seemingly

[low crane]

it didnt block it when it first came out

[viscid wedge]

sure, but when it started seeing it in a lot of peoples systems quickly.. well, here we are. nbd, just allow it

[distant prairie]

Obfuscating the game data putting everything in numbered folders is a new level of tomfoolery I haven't seen before

Like that will stop pirates 😭

[golden scaffold]

Yeah and it's already been breached anyway

[worn ibex]

the second one is one of the best stealth action games

the enemy AI is great

the level design is great

the feelings of different guns and how the environment reacts with you is also great

[midnight elk]

tlou 2's gameplay is actually great

[brittle egret]

for some reason I thought it was "bare minimum gameplay"

[midnight elk]

1 was decent too

[brittle egret]

just to carry the story

[midnight elk]

nah

[crude marsh]

the individual xml files in their packages are encrypted with a seed generated off of filename

[stray grove]

TLOU 1\2 absolutely peak 2 even better

[mortal wolf]

I was forced to play on PS5 controls. First game I handed back (library rental) and just watched the story on YouTube

[distant prairie]

IDK why I waited to try the snapshot. Mad props getting around all the Denuvo foolishness. DLSS4.5 is actually usable now without the double dipped sharpening. Removing chromatic abberation alone is worth the process lol

Adding color back into the highlights adds so much to the presentation

When I first played this on my desktop monitor at 1440p I thought I was going blind with how egregious the post processing was

[crude marsh]

yeah is legitimately painful to look at

the CA is sooooo weird

and the sharpening algorithm does not selectively sharpen any correct things

[mortal wolf]

I have gta5e on the repo. The CA there seems very optimal

[worldly vapor]

chat, how long till CD is good

[distant prairie]

Is it scaled to the internal resolution and then being rounded up to the monitor res? I noticed there is a ton more artifacting at 1440p than on my TV at 4k even with ultra performance DLSS4.5. From my perspective it seems the effects are expecting a 4k resolution end point regardless of input res

[worldly vapor]

how long till forge fixes it?

[crude marsh]

I am not sure, Forge might know but the resolution scaling and upscaling are all kinds of wonky

I know that a lot of stuff is low resolution to start with

and they have aggressively low VRS

[distant prairie]

I can see that 😂

[crude marsh]

probably a matter of not having much data to go off of the lower the res

[distant prairie]

looking at pumpkins on the ground and the edges are rendered at 1/4 res regardless of resolution

[faint bobcat]

OK, reworked auto exposure again

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/based-gigachad-chad-gif-23901955

kino

I would do the same with Reno If I could

[karmic void]

u being goated lately ngl

[worldly vapor]

[karmic void]

only 5mt pop in left to unslop

[whole shell]

PRAISE BE!!!!

[faint bobcat]

BTW, with these adjustments, nights are actually dark now

their auto exposure was making nights into day

[ruby tusk]

Thank god

[faint bobcat]

kino

[true dagger]

amazing

[mortal wolf]

SDR copium slider

[rotund raptor]

When release for this?

[mortal wolf]

There's math for cortical gain, maybe I'll use this game to test that stuff

Like at night adaptation (pre exposure) drops like crazy, and contrast ramps up and then cortical gain picks it up

[faint bobcat]

I wanted to ask about any adaptation papers

since I dont have any materials for it

[quartz flame]

https://x.com/Garaa0fTheRage/status/2035766836890112154

Garaa0fTheRage (@Garaa0fTheRage)

Whoever said Crimson Desert was a terrible need to be outcast out of the gaming community.

X · Mar 22, 2026, 5:13 PM

[mortal wolf]

PsychoV does have a gray in/out system

[stray grove]

@rotund raptor let the man cook

https://klipy.com/gifs/let-him-cook-cookin-1

[karmic void]

by the way Mr @mortal wolf psychoV on Cyberpunk looks so good I don't use any LUT anymore

thx

[quartz flame]

this looks good u did any other custom tuning compared to the renoDX addon?

[viscid wedge]

dude look at the video and all the sliders we don't have 😆. Let em cook lol

[faint bobcat]

LMMMMAOOO

the moon actually has a texture now

its not just a white blob

[daring orbit]

Lol what?

[ruby tusk]

No fucking way lmfao

[daring orbit]

How could you pull that off

[ruby tusk]

I thought it was just a white blob this whole time

[faint bobcat]

markets the nights as being super dark and real
proceeds to slop up their signature auto exposure
makes nights into day and turbo charges interiors into nukes

TY Pearl

[ruby tusk]

Literally

[stone comet]

the interiors turns my white pets completely pitch black 😭

[faint bobcat]

Well I am currently tuning all of this to RR

so if everyone else gets griefed

tough luck

[stone comet]

Im on RR too im chillin

[ruby tusk]

Imagine not using RR

[dapper slate]

ah yes, RR is so good

[sudden pulsar]

That's the misaligned shadow maps, nothing to do with RR

[viscid wedge]

minor inconvenience, i pretend like I don't see it when it happens

[stone comet]

abyss gets mega cooked with misaligned shadows

[dapper slate]

It only happens with RR on though

[faint bobcat]

hmm, this seemed to be coming from their local light raymarcher though

unless this is another error

[sudden pulsar]

What are you waiting for?

[crude marsh]

FOV maxing

[sudden pulsar]

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/fix-it-snl-oscar-rogers-weekend-update-kenan-thompson-gif-10667500

[crude marsh]

looks like same error

[golden scaffold]

I know it's been said a hundred times but RR performance drop is just too much for me, while playing in ultra perf is also a noticeable drop in quality on the outside.

So I tend to swap between perf and no RR outside and turn on RR on the interiors only

Even with framegen the 60 fps average I get doesn't feel good, probably because base is too low. I wish I could see frame times

[crude marsh]

if only the setting was labeled correctly or split into two

[naive jackal]

https://www.eurogamer.net/new-report-claims-crimson-deserts-development-was-plagued-by-a-hodgepodge-of-features-crammed-together-and-leaders-who-dont-acknowledge-anyone-who-doesnt-share-their-exact-mindset

[crude marsh]

one for RR and one for RTGI

[golden scaffold]

Yeah it must be RTGI that hits the perf? I know it does some things outside but it's really not a game changer

[viscid wedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/segundo-sol-novela

[naive jackal]

🤣

[crude marsh]

RR is basically the only way to get functional GI

and it drastically changes outdoors as well

[dapper slate]

Yeah, they are basically cranking lighting to max, which to be fair.. they do state that in the description

I wish they'd just de couple it though

[golden scaffold]

All I want is my shadows not to be a morphing liquid mess, don't care how accurate they are (GI)

[stone comet]

poggers

[crude marsh]

somehow they also dont have AO on much at all without enabling RR too

really weird choice given RR is supposed to be able to fill in a lot of samples itself

granted they dont have any samples to start with

[faint bobcat]

1/16th is still a sample

🤓

[plain fractal]

Alright, thanks! 🙏

[faint bobcat]

ripperoni

sun is complete sloppery

no limb darkening, no soft falloff

hard edge

so looks like a flat pancake

[crude marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/drawing-a-circle-master-chief-pablo-schreiber-halo-drawing-on-a-mirror-gif-25727216

[faint bobcat]

moon is applied at full value

full blast brightness

[crude marsh]

so I noticed the moon was always at max nits

[faint bobcat]

this + their auto exposure

brickwall moon

not even a moon

just a white disk

neutron star

[wispy crown]

So the previews probably had a different auto exposure algorithm or just different brightness value for the moon? Or maybe both?

[faint bobcat]

nah

BDO is the same

brickwall moon

Sun well

sky is all giga clamped

so who cares

[wispy crown]

Okay because weirdly the previews had completely black nights

[faint bobcat]

[wispy crown]

But maybe different region or something like that? Who knows

[faint bobcat]

I dunno, my adjustments might giga grief some areas

I have no idea

I have only tested starting area

[wispy crown]

Honestly not a problem since you can just change all settings in realtime right?

[dusky echo]

Black bar bug fixed yet ?

[faint bobcat]

I havent added any debug for auto exposure

Its just a toggle rn

I dont want to bloat up too many cboooofers

[wispy crown]

Still if an area is completely bugged you can revert to vanilla behavior

[faint bobcat]

yes

[wispy crown]

Then all fine. Doubt you can do QA testing if not even Pearl Abyss can

[analog parrot]

Niiiiice

[dire pilot]

I had some overhead so I changed the RR scale to 88% which NVPI calls DLAA Lite and it has cleaned up a lot of the image for me, but woof, it's still rough lol

[ruby tusk]

Vanilla + RenoDX vs my reshade + RELOOK + RenoDX

[wispy crown]

You on a 5090? I wish I had some overhead

[dire pilot]

4080S

[crude marsh]

I can modify the render passes now I think

[spark oriole]

where did all your color go

[wispy crown]

Nice if you like it but jesus christ completely butchered the intended artstyle

Saturation -100

[ruby tusk]

fuck the intended art style

[crude marsh]

nuclear fantasy

[viscid wedge]

thats neat conceptually, but I much prefer the left

[wispy crown]

Crimson Fallout

[dapper slate]

Crimson Depression more like it

[ruby tusk]

I'm sorry I don't like 200% Saturated Green

[wispy crown]

Nah bro game is not oversaturated at all. Default game even is slightly desaturated. It's just very bright.

[dapper slate]

Idk, I see color when I go outside irl, so I like my games with color lmfao

[deft pulsar]

this game sometimes has beautiful colours and other times has the dullest colours ever

[wispy crown]

This reminds me. I need to make fun of some reshade presets on NexusMods

[deft pulsar]

lmao

"first mods for crimson desert are out"

looks closely

4 Reshade presets

[ruby tusk]

Vanilla looks like Fortnite

[wispy crown]

First Reshade I've seen. What is this?

[viscid wedge]

depression

[daring orbit]

Cinematic

[golden scaffold]

Has anyone figured out fishing?

[daring orbit]

I caught a bunch of different fish

[true dagger]

i just throw the line ultra close to me and hope it catches, no clue how to fish

[neat tree]

don't reel in until bubbles go away. When bubbles are there pull the rod in the opposite direction as the fish is moving to tire it out

[wispy crown]

Found the winner reshade boys. The best "I have a GTX 1660 and I've made a realism Reshade Preset"

[naive jackal]

Looks like it's trying to make it look like Witcher 2

[daring orbit]

Pull against the run, dont reel until the fish stops running

Just like real life

[golden scaffold]

Oooooh I figured it out

[viscid wedge]

somewhat. I learned that only reel when it stops moving left and right, but it isn't perfect. I just cheat and only throw the line a few feet in front of me. I also get down in the water

[dire pilot]

jesus, it's so oversaturated and bright lol

[golden scaffold]

You have to tilt the joystick forward when reeling in

[ruby tusk]

No it's not they said

[daring orbit]

No you dont!

[true dagger]

oh it actually stops running? i was pulling against it and it just kept running and running and snapped, i gave up and moved onto some quest

[golden scaffold]

Yeah this much makes sense, it was the reeling in part that was missing - you have to tilt forward

[faint bobcat]

Loaded in game
WTF why isn't my auto exposure code now working
Did I fuck up pls don't tell me it's some PSO or CPU loading code bs
Checks and sees he forgot to update addon in the game directory

[daring orbit]

You absolutely do not have to tilt foward

[faint bobcat]

(I don't syslink)

[golden scaffold]

It was the only way I caught something after multiple attempts 🤷‍♂️ reeling in otherwise made no progress

[daring orbit]

Thats a skill issue

[neat tree]

can confirm you dont have to tilt forward

[golden scaffold]

Or are just the quest Tenches that are harder to catch?

[daring orbit]

Dont reel if you see any effects on the water

[faint bobcat]

I am about to upgrade RTVs to solve this banding

[jade spruce]

dumbass, even I have build scripts to deploy CS to my mo2 install

[neat tree]

some fish are just harder to catch

[faint bobcat]

I have seen this screen far to long

[faint bobcat]

[crude marsh]

walk into the water and grab them

[jade spruce]

ask the clanker to make you one

[faint bobcat]

thats not the point

[mortal wolf]

mmm mcp dumps

[faint bobcat]

I just dont trust myself with link

[jade spruce]

lmao

[faint bobcat]

something something

[jade spruce]

[faint bobcat]

I need SRV view

pls

I beeg

[tame igloo]

Master Cheeks

[neat tree]

I just tried this myself and it did indeed help. Same gpu as you, 1440p though

[faint bobcat]

we can adjust the colours directly for grass

thats the booootiful thing

per area adjustments

per shader adjustements

You could fix pink flame hues in post using reshade

but other areas would get griefed

here its targeted

[golden scaffold]

Omg reeling with mouse is 10x more efficient than spinning the joystick, poor controllers players are completely gimped here. Using mousewheel is like turbohacking it

[dire pilot]

yeah, I'm 1440p

[ruby tusk]

That's good to know, looking forward to it

[neat tree]

the game is actually significantly less blurry for me setting RR scaling to just 77%

[covert ruin]

so is the pop in on the ground actually fixable or is it always going to be there?

[faint bobcat]

its fixable by nuking the shaders responisble for proc gen twigs, pebbles and grass

actual fix is engine side

just like all the other LOD and draw distance settings

[mortal wolf]

fixing devkit srvs now

[fresh sparrow]

So yes but no? 👀

[dapper slate]

Guessing negative lod bias wouldn't work?

[mortal wolf]

back home

[gilded plover]

https://tenor.com/view/vibe-gif-7932321875744377583

[fresh sparrow]

As someone who doesn't understand much of what is going on here, how far off are we from an update to download and play with? Not trying to push, just don't really understand all of the tech talk here

[viscid wedge]

was available friday, check pinned messages

[fresh sparrow]

Oh yeah, I have that one

I mean like an update based on all of the cool stuff the team have been doing since then

[true dagger]

why tf is the game not taking my NVPI custom res settings for this, did u check something specific in NVPI? i just set custom RR res but it doesnt work

[viscid wedge]

they keep getting asked that. better to just wait and enjoy what we have.

[neat tree]

did you also set "forced quality level" to custom?

[true dagger]

yep

[covert ruin]

this looks great, is this just renodx or is there extra stuff involved?

[daring orbit]

Dont fish with the bullshit mouse

[true dagger]

@neat tree

[neat tree]

Im going to double check to see if im placeboing myself, hold on

[true dagger]

im using SK to check the internal res

[neat tree]

yeah that's what im trying to do but I can't seem to launch with SK while i have reshade/renodx installed?

[jade flame]

No external means of changing resolution scaling of DLSS has worked for me.

[true dagger]

do u have the latest SK dll?

[neat tree]

maybe not

[true dagger]

the latest versions have fixed crashing in most games

that have reshade*

[stone comet]

Did kal just push an update recently

[true dagger]

i used to not be able to launch most games with SK that had reno installed, Kal updated it this month and its been working in most games for me

ye march he started pushing updates again, check nightly builds

[stone comet]

Will have to check again forgor which build im on but keep getting cucked

[true dagger]

26.3.22 is what im on, in CD it works all the time

[neat tree]

im updating

[stone comet]

Swag i must be on slightly older one

Tyty

[faint bobcat]

Vanilla / Reno Dee Eggs

@crude marsh

fusion reactors begone

[true dagger]

looks so much better lmao

how are interiors now, big difference too?

[jade flame]

So dark.
But at least the pink is gone

[faint bobcat]

they arent giga boosted anymore

[feral bluff]

@ruby tusk Based on the comments from these internet "ARTISTS" about your take and interpretation of how You like the desaturated look which in my opinion is looking great as starting baseline for future adjustments - then it seems that all of us should stop modding and deal with games + leave them as devs intended 😅

I actually made also adjustments with DS2 as I don't like the yellow sandy look and for me its just too much so I went more natural way. HOW I LIKE !

In regards to CD I would take out that over saturated look immediately as I don't like it either. We don't argue one or another taste, pointless. We enjoy what we play and if we want we make our own looks and adjustments how we like with tools what we have.

[faint bobcat]

however that might mean they are dark

[faint bobcat]

and it was authored around their auto exposure

we either need more bounces

or better lighting

to make it "better"

[faint bobcat]

Dont look like reactors anymore

[jade spruce]

Maybe better off seeing why the light carries so far? Doesn't look like the bulbs actually follow inverse square falloff.

[ruby tusk]

I like that, nice work Forge

[faint bobcat]

I will do, the point was that their auto exposure was the reason why night wasnt night

if they dont use inverse square I will shit bricks

becasue the local light sources all look off

[daring orbit]

Ngl textures look way better for me when i just play cinematic, 4.5 quality

And it feel way smoother

[vivid iris]

You aren’t symlinking your addon?

[mortal wolf]

exposure isn't human vision anyway. more camera jank. the actual light that hit your eyes didn't increase (linear exposure). what increased was the boost your eyes did to make it perceptiple

[stone comet]

Honestly prefer saturation/color filters in games since they're not really meant to have fully realistic colours anyway

[crude marsh]

I am fine with artistic choices if they aren't bad artistic choices

[mortal wolf]

once i finish the devkit stuff, i'll see how i can play adaption because there's a bunch of science on that

[faint bobcat]

[stone comet]

Yeah for sure like re9 i couldnt play without its filter it looks jarring

[faint bobcat]

I am special

[neat tree]

@true dagger it looks like my internal res did not increase as well. I'm going to try a bit of A/B testing to see if it actually changed anything

[jade spruce]

Yeah like, this feels like fucking vanilla skyrim bulbs all over, they don't have a very intense center and reach gigafar.

[rose jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-hat-off-ernest-burkhart-leonardo-dicaprio-killers-of-the-flower-moon-show-respect-gif-17850548775824079275

@faint bobcat @vivid iris @mortal wolf cant think you enough for this mod

[jade spruce]

Fadeout of the bulb is also very abrupt

Could be that they fucked with the curve to adjust for the cursed auto-exposure

[faint bobcat]

that or they just 'artistically driven' code to cover up for their bad lighting

[crude marsh]

ok its unclear but, it seems like removing tiling from raymarch local lights shader might fix that issue

[faint bobcat]

removing as in modifing the code

or just the tiling shader

if so that atleast helps me pin point where the issue is stemming from

[true dagger]

yea idk i just couldnt get it to work so thats why i was confused

[jade spruce]

[crude marsh]

        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="IsTiled" EnableMacroName="IS_TILED" EnumType="Bool" Default="True" CacheSuffix="tile" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows|Metal" />
            <!--<Element Name="CalcCharacterOcclusions" EnableMacroName="CALC_CHARACTER_OCCLUSIONS" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="cco" TargetShaders="cs" />-->
            <Element Name="TraceManyLightsDownsampled" EnableMacroName="TRACE_MANY_LIGHTS_DOWNSAMPLED" EnumType="Bool" Default="True" CacheSuffix="mld" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows|Metal"/>
            <Element Name="UseReservoirSampling" EnableMacroName="USZ_RESERVOIR_SAMPLING" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="urs" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="UseRaytracingHitResult" EnableMacroName="USE_RAYTRACING_HIT_RESULT" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rhr" TargetShaders="cs"/>
            <Element Name="UseSeparateSamplingPass" EnableMacroName="USE_SEPARATE_SAMPLING_PASS" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="ussp" TargetShaders="cs" />
        </Permutation>
        <Define Name="IS_DOWNSAMPLED" Value="1" CacheSuffix="ds" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="CALC_CHARACTER_OCCLUSIONS" Value="1" CacheSuffix="cco" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <ComputeShader Filename="VoxelGlobalIlluminationManyLights.hlsl" EntryPoint="RaymarchLocalLightsCS"/>
    </Pipeline>```

to this

```    <Pipeline Pass="RaymarchLocalLightsCS" Condition="ConditionalTextureMSArray">
        <Permutation>
            <!--<Element Name="CalcCharacterOcclusions" EnableMacroName="CALC_CHARACTER_OCCLUSIONS" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="cco" TargetShaders="cs" />-->
            <Element Name="TraceManyLightsDownsampled" EnableMacroName="TRACE_MANY_LIGHTS_DOWNSAMPLED" EnumType="Bool" Default="True" CacheSuffix="mld" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows|Metal"/>
            <Element Name="UseReservoirSampling" EnableMacroName="USZ_RESERVOIR_SAMPLING" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="urs" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="UseRaytracingHitResult" EnableMacroName="USE_RAYTRACING_HIT_RESULT" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rhr" TargetShaders="cs"/>
            <Element Name="UseSeparateSamplingPass" EnableMacroName="USE_SEPARATE_SAMPLING_PASS" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="ussp" TargetShaders="cs" />
        </Permutation>
        <Define Name="IS_DOWNSAMPLED" Value="1" CacheSuffix="ds" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="CALC_CHARACTER_OCCLUSIONS" Value="1" CacheSuffix="cco" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <ComputeShader Filename="VoxelGlobalIlluminationManyLights.hlsl" EntryPoint="RaymarchLocalLightsCS"/>
    </Pipeline>```

[faint bobcat]

OK, let me check now

[crude marsh]

let me try removing all the dof and post processing effects too for shiggles

[tame igloo]

camera mod up on nexus, btw

[crude marsh]

ye I think they built it with the tool I posted earlier

this makes me happy

[tame igloo]

yee

[fresh sparrow]

Yep, your mod has given people the foundation they need to mod, thanks for that

[faint bobcat]

Reno and U+

saving modern gaming

might as wel be the dark ages without them

[warm idol]

Is all this going to crash and burn when they release a patch slightly adjusting brightness/exposure etc?

[faint bobcat]

probably

oh adjust

lmao

no

Pearl wont do shit on that front

they wont fix this

they will however break our code with new shader hashes

so dont update your game

[mortal wolf]

they have user grading and they're both post-SDR tonemap. acesv2 didn't give them to work with for HDR grading, though i guess what's stopping them from just treaing 0 to peak as a big 0 to 1 range in HDR. that's literally what ACES did

[warm idol]

I feel like the night thing is unintended, previews days before launch were saying how dark the nights were

[faint bobcat]

previews were also glazing the graphics as being the best thing since sliced cheese

[worldly vapor]

nights look like trailers

though one of the older trailers had way better nights imo

[warm idol]

Maybe one thing to try check, rain at night is still pretty dark in the current build -

[faint bobcat]

The actual night lighting itself is good

its just the auto exposure that turbo charged

[warm idol]

SO with the changes, it might be black black

[faint bobcat]

which changes

right now reno matches the above

or similar

[worn ibex]

CDPR save us, save us CDPR

[faint bobcat]

@crude marsh ty

I found the issue

RR has bad coordinate mismatch

[worn ibex]

genuine question, how much of the state of the industry rn is because companies keep laying people off so people don’t care as much about the end product anymore and want to get the game out so they are not in the chopping block

[faint bobcat]

99999/10

Imagine if Reno

had modders

[worn ibex]

Because at the end of the day, if you’re working on making games all day, you prolly have some other hobby because you’re sick of them so you don’t play them as much

[faint bobcat]

and Shortfuse fired us all after 3 months

shit would go nowhere

[warm idol]

Whatever changes were made to show night examples you posted above. Could they make it TOOO dark on rainy nights, as they are currently reasonable dark in the current build.

[worn ibex]

Dw once I get my permanent residence in Canada and am not afraid of being shipped back to the Indian sweatshop tech factories I will join the Reno gooner gang

[crude marsh]

I have seen this in other games like hogwarts

exact same behavior

with RR

[worn ibex]

I was looking at Ubisoft jobs because I’d be interested in making games and it paid 40k less than my current typescript job…

[faint bobcat]

@sudden pulsar

[manic finch]

so wait are we back now?

still a chance for U+ too

also @faint bobcat comparisons look awesome. Keep cooking

[cosmic zenith]

Sorry, been playing the game, is there a newer version of Reno outside the pin? Or is it still in-progress. I really hate the auto exposure

[crude marsh]

have at least publish modding tools for the game, now looking at modifying render pass stuff but forge is kind of doing that already

did game just get an update

I have a 632MB download

[naive jackal]

Same

[drowsy iron]

Same here

[neat tree]

same

[gilded plover]

seems so

[neat tree]

it happened right after a crash i thought i messed something up

[faint bobcat]

Fixed

[manic finch]

yeah i just saw that too

updated for me too

[true dagger]

wait so youll fix the stupid shadows through the walls?

[faint bobcat]

yes

[true dagger]

ily

[faint bobcat]

It has a slightly higher GPU cost

[manic finch]

use all my gpu cost

you can have it

[faint bobcat]

but I cba to look into RR stuff to fix the tiled

[true dagger]

it wasnt a huge deal tbh but having to keep ignoring when it just shouldnt be there is just annoying over longer periods

[shy brook]

yeah downloading update rn 622mb

[manic finch]

https://crimsondesert.pearlabyss.com/en-US/News/Notice/Detail?_boardNo=73

patch notes

[tropic sonnet]

Hey! Where can I find the download link for the HDR mod :) I'm aware that it is WIP

[cosmic zenith]

it's in the pins

Also more fast travel points, nice

[tropic sonnet]

Thank you :)

[manic finch]

damn patch notes are pretty long

"Improved the appearance of the waterfall in the Abyss tutorial."

lol just the tutorial one?

[heavy cargo]

"Fixed an issue where screen quality appeared abnormal when activating FSR Ray Regeneration or DLSS Ray Reconstruction."

[cosmic zenith]

Yo, these are some good patches

[manic finch]

yeah was just gonna post that

[cosmic zenith]

unless it's all busted

[manic finch]

about to get on and see if DLAA+HDR works now

[faint bobcat]

fixed two issues, introdcued a trillion other problems

[manic finch]

it better lol

[faint bobcat]

and breaks Reno

that would be nice

[manic finch]

yeah I figured that was gonna happen

[dire pilot]

yeah, it just crashes if you have reno installed now lol

[covert ruin]

is the patch out right now?

[true dagger]

works for me lol

and reno works

[lilac urchin]

so reno not broken?

[manic finch]

trying it now

myself

[lilac urchin]

jesus

[dire pilot]

hmmm... I'll try something else then

[true dagger]

nope game works for me fine and reno does too

[lilac urchin]

i literally just bought the game

[jade kettle]

happy to see them apply a patch quickly , although its weird they still dont give a rebind for controller

[manic finch]

yeah loading ingame

working so far

[true dagger]

they also added an Exit button

[manic finch]

they added a normal storage finally lol

[dire pilot]

okay, it seems that the update didn't like the camera mod - I reset it via the bat but that wasn't good enough - I had to verify file integrity lol

[manic finch]

DLAA+HDR still broken

sigh

[shy brook]

seems like a solid first patch only 3 days after launch, hopefully they keep at it. Controller rebind will probably happen sooner or later

[true dagger]

do you guys feel a difference in the controller feel? they say they improved the UI responsivness in the menu, feel a little bit faster

[dire pilot]

yeah the ridiculous input lag with pad in menus is gone

[rare vault]

Fixed an issue where screen quality appeared abnormal when activating FSR Ray Regeneration or DLSS Ray Reconstruction. Anyone notice any differences

[eager epoch]

Well, they've introduced an exit button in menu, will save some time getting out of the game

[crude marsh]

what is this?

    <Pipeline Pass="PostProcessSceneBlur" InputLayout="FullScreenVertex" BuildTriggerType="Required">
        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="ENABLE_ALPHA_BLEND" EnableMacroName="ENABLE_ALPHA_BLEND" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="at" TargetShaders="vs|ps" >
                <PipelineState Type="Blank"></PipelineState>
                <PipelineState Type="Attach">
                    <BlendState AlphaBlend="PremultipliedAlpha" ColorWrite="RGB" />
                </PipelineState>
            </Element>
            <Element Name="IsSinglePass" EnableMacroName="IS_SINGLE_PASS" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="sp" TargetShaders="vs|ps" />
        </Permutation>
        <VertexShader Filename="ScreenSpaceCommon.hlsl" EntryPoint="FullScreenVS" />
        <PixelShader Filename="PostProcessPingPong.hlsl" EntryPoint="PostProcessSceneBlurPS" />
        <DepthState DepthEnable="False" />
        <StencilState StencilEnable="False" />
    </Pipeline>

    <Pipeline Pass="PostProcessRadialBlur" InputLayout="FullScreenVertex">
        <VertexShader Filename="ScreenSpaceCommon.hlsl" EntryPoint="FullScreenVS" />
        <PixelShader Filename="PostProcessPingPong.hlsl" EntryPoint="PostProcessRadialBlurPS" />
    </Pipeline>

    <Pipeline Pass="PostProcessOnePassBlur" InputLayout="FullScreenVertex">
        <VertexShader Filename="ScreenSpaceCommon.hlsl" EntryPoint="FullScreenVS" />
        <PixelShader Filename="PostProcessPingPong.hlsl" EntryPoint="PostProcessOnePassBlurPS" />
    </Pipeline>

    <Pipeline Pass="GaussianBlur9Tab" InputLayout="FullScreenVertex" BuildTriggerType="Required">
        <VertexShader Filename="ScreenSpaceCommon.hlsl" EntryPoint="FullScreenVS" />
        <PixelShader Filename="PostProcessPingPong.hlsl" EntryPoint="GaussianBlur9TabPS" />
    </Pipeline>
    
    <Pipeline Pass="GaussianBlur9TabSimple" InputLayout="FullScreenVertex" FrameBufferBindingName="TrailDeformedBlur">
        <VertexShader Filename="ScreenSpaceCommon.hlsl" EntryPoint="FullScreenVS" />
        <PixelShader Filename="PostProcessPingPong.hlsl" EntryPoint="GaussianBlur9TabSimplePS" />
    </Pipeline>
    
    <Pipeline Pass="GaussianBlur9TabSimpleR8" InputLayout="FullScreenVertex" FrameBufferBindingName="DeformedLightAttenuation">
        <VertexShader Filename="ScreenSpaceCommon.hlsl" EntryPoint="FullScreenVS" />
        <PixelShader Filename="PostProcessPingPong.hlsl" EntryPoint="GaussianBlur9TabSimpleR8PS" />
    </Pipeline>```

[true dagger]

seems like a solid patch, hopefully we there wont be too many issues introduced with it lol

[plain fractal]

Can the performance be improved by setting a custom render scale for RR? Sorry if this is a dumb question. This is the first game where I use RR

[viscid wedge]

performance can be improved by using scaling period

[true dagger]

i mean technically yea, if for example on DLSS Quality you get bad performance, but DLSS Balanced doesnt look right to you, you could just make a custom one inbetween that runs better than quality and looks better than balanced

[lament orchid]

Doesn't work the game ignores it

[true dagger]

but i couldnt get them to work in CD

[viscid wedge]

how are you setting them?

[eager epoch]

It seems game ignores every attempt to set custom res for me not for DLSS nor RR

[lament orchid]

game ignores them for some reason

[true dagger]

NVPI

[lament orchid]

same

[faint bobcat]

based they changed the following

Raymarcher = maybe they fixed the issue the minute I fixed it

[true dagger]

doesnt SK have like a slider for it?

[viscid wedge]

have you guys tried.. the normal ways? lol

[lament orchid]

doesn't work

[faint bobcat]

this is for their lens flare

[crude marsh]

ah

[true dagger]

i havent tried nvidia app tbh but im not bothered xd

[faint bobcat]

RadialBlur is the circlular lens flare

[plain fractal]

I often use custom res scaling values for DLSS but I didnt know you could set a custom scaling value for RR. I hope that the RR override will work some day, because the performance impact is huge

[crude marsh]

man this is truly next gen

[true dagger]

try it out and check if its actually using it ingame, wonder if it just ignores NVPI

[lament orchid]

doesn't work the game ignores it

[jade kettle]

that draw distance 🤮

[ember tulip]

wonder what this all entails

[eager epoch]

Trierd DlssTweaks, conf file, notghing....

[smoky brook]

was about to post that, hopefully blurry textures when upscaling is fixed

[plain fractal]

I have to say FG feels rather good in this game. Latency is not too bad

[jade kettle]

latency is fine. problem the game is already so blurry that FG just adds another layer of shit on top

[worldly swan]

Renodx hdr still works after the latest patch?

[eager epoch]

Getting 27-30ms avg in frameview all maxed out on 1440p, 340fps and 270fps on 1% lows dlss q fg x3

[faint bobcat]

yep raymarcher tiled shader is gone now

[lament orchid]

i don't get why few games offer the ultra quality with dlss 65% for qulity is just too much for people who use 1080p or even 1440p imo

[viscid wedge]

lmao, i can't imagine 340fps in this game

sitting here with a 4090 @ 4K

[faint bobcat]

60FPS + MFG 6x

[eager epoch]

5090 Astral OC to 3100, DDR5 6600 CL26 fclk 2200 on a 9950X3D CCD0

[faint bobcat]

OK so they didnt brick reno

and they fixed their slop tiled raymarcher leaking through meshes

[ember tulip]

pog

[crude marsh]

did they fix it or turn off tiling

[cosmic zenith]

Yeahm Reno seems to be working still

[plain fractal]

Profile pic checks out

[vivid iris]

Actually wild to see any technical fixes in post launch patches. Feels like it rarely happens.

[faint bobcat]

turned off tiling so a new shader spawned

[dire pilot]

well that's a nice change - you just automatically put on the funny vision helmet instead of having to press start when seeing a memory

[cosmic zenith]

The camp storage is nice too

[eager epoch]

yeah, perf OC'd as well

[crude marsh]

nice so they published exactly what I just did

lol

[tame vault]

"Fixed an issue where screen quality appeared abnormal when activating FSR Ray Regeneration or DLSS Ray Reconstruction."

[vivid iris]

Or rather it’s never the stuff people want

[dire pilot]

the boiling indoors isn't as aggressive as it was

[jade kettle]

Ray reconstruction looks like a blurry mess to me. and boiling seems the exact same as well

[cosmic zenith]

DLSS seems to be much cleaner for me

[burnt berry]

is DLAA and HDR still bugged?

[tame vault]

Patch sounds very good on the face of of

[worldly vapor]

did they finally put DLSS in the right order?

[cosmic zenith]

Autoexposure still sucks dick

[worldly vapor]

[mortal wolf]

hmm

[final imp]

I dont think they fix dlss

[worldly vapor]

[eager epoch]

devs are busy with the million+ gamers who play on console or simply dont give half of a f***, they'll secure them first.. us later (low priority), imo this community is the best hope atm to correct the visuals of this game

[crude marsh]

I can reorder the shaders now, lmk if there is anything that should be reordered

like we could perhaps move DLSS maybe

[blazing ledge]

imagine if there wasn't RenoDX or Luma lol we get borked HDR experience instead

[mystic pumice]

It does.

[faint bobcat]

let me find the exact shader name

white balancing is crazy

https://tenor.com/view/kid-yell-shout-scared-gif-17415836

[plain fractal]

Wtf is the auto exposure doing btw. The game lowers the whole screen brightness by like 50% when I look at the ground (Bright daytime). This is like the opposite of simulated eye adaption

[ember tulip]

that right screen shot looks crazy improved wtf

[mortal wolf]

btw, title screen is underwater

[plain fractal]

You cant even call that balance anymore

[faint bobcat]

BilateralReconstructionDiffuseGITiled

this is their voxelGI

it runs after RR

so gets no denoising

and has noise out the ass

[crude marsh]

ok let me see if i can figure out moving it....

is there any way to prevent RR from fucking with displacement maps

[dire pilot]

holy noise lol

[crude marsh]

yeah I got hit by that earlier

[burnt berry]

DLAA actually works now

wait maybe not

[mortal wolf]

it appears in the middle of the screen

[jade flame]

?? What was the problem before?

OH SHIT! An update!!

[crude marsh]

        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="IsDownsampled" EnableMacroName="IS_DOWNSAMPLED" EnumType="Bool" Default="True" CacheSuffix="ds" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="(Windows|Metal) & Native16bitShaderOps" />
            <Element Name="InterleavedMode" EnableMacroName="INTERLEAVED_MODE" EnumType="Integer" Default="2" Count="3" CacheSuffix="intm" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="(Windows|Metal) & Native16bitShaderOps" />
            <Element Name="UseTiledRadianceCache" EnableMacroName="USE_TILED_RADIANCE_CACHE" EnumType="Bool" Default="True" CacheSuffix="utrc" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows|Metal" />
            <Element Name="UseClusteredRadianceCache" EnableMacroName="USE_CLUSTERED_RADIANCE_CACHE" EnumType="Bool" Default="True" CacheSuffix="ucrc" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows|Metal" />
            <!--<Element Name="UseBentCone" EnableMacroName="USE_BENT_CONE" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="bc" TargetShaders="cs" />-->
            <Element Name="ReprojectDiffuseGIDownsampled" EnableMacroName="REPROJECT_DIFFUSE_GI" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rdgi" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows|Metal" />
            <Element Name="GenerateDiffuseGIForRadianceCache" EnableMacroName="GENERATE_DIFFUSE_GI_FOR_RADIANCE_CACHE" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="gdrc" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="IsHighQualityGI" EnableMacroName="IS_HIGH_QUALITY_GI" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="hqgi" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="UseRayReconstruction" EnableMacroName="USE_RAY_RECONSTRUCTION" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="urr" TargetShaders="cs" />
        </Permutation>
        <Define Name="IS_DOWNSAMPLED" Value="1" CacheSuffix="ds" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="!Native16bitShaderOps"/>
        <Define Name="INTERLEAVED_MODE" Value="2" CacheSuffix="intm" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="!Native16bitShaderOps"/>
        <Define Name="USE_COLOR_ENCODING" Value="0" CacheSuffix="uce" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_HIGH_ORDER_TILED_RADIANCE_CACHE" Value="1" CacheSuffix="uhotrc" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_HIT_DISTANCE_WEIGHTS_FOR_TILED_RADIANCE_CACHE" Value="0" CacheSuffix="hdwtrc" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_LRU_BINNING_FOR_CLUSTERED_RADIANCE_CACHE" Value="1" CacheSuffix="lrucrc" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_DEPTH_RANGE_FOR_CLUSTERED_RADIANCE_CACHE" Value="0" CacheSuffix="udr" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_BENT_CONE" Value="1" CacheSuffix="bc" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="MAXIMIZE_OCCUPANCY" Value="1" CacheSuffix="maxocc" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <ComputeShader Filename="Filtering.hlsl" EntryPoint="BilateralReconstructDiffuseGITiled_CS" />
    </Pipeline>

    <Pipeline Pass="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGI">
        <ComputeShader Filename="Filtering.hlsl" EntryPoint="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGI_CS" />
    </Pipeline>

    <Pipeline Pass="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGIUpsample">
        <ComputeShader Filename="Filtering.hlsl" EntryPoint="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGIUpsample_CS" />
    </Pipeline>

    <Pipeline Pass="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGITiled">
        <ComputeShader Filename="Filtering.hlsl" EntryPoint="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGITiled_CS" />
    </Pipeline>

    <Pipeline Pass="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGIUpsampleTiled">
        <ComputeShader Filename="Filtering.hlsl" EntryPoint="BilateralReprojectDiffuseGIUpsampleTiled_CS" />
    </Pipeline>```

[jade flame]

Bro. I'm trying to talk here. XD

[crude marsh]

thats nice

[jade flame]

I make funny

[mortal wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/adults-tony-stark-avengers-infinity-war-talking-robert-downey-jr-gif-17085094

[worldly vapor]

i rather have them fix the game then read ur funny

[drowsy iron]

Dlaa working for me now actually

[distant prairie]

What if instead of RTGI from 2018 the game worked right

[cosmic zenith]

"Fixed awkward animations that occurred when a character collided with a wagon."
The devs are definitely trolling through social media for things to fix

[faint bobcat]

clearly skipped over Pumbos account

he's been flaming ACES V2 for 3 days now

[jade flame]

Nothing in the patch notes about fixing DLAA 🤔

[burnt berry]

man it looks so much better now, ive been dying out here playing in native

[blazing ledge]

wasn't DLAA issue about the black flickering bar above when it's enabled?

[crude marsh]

wait can we enable RT shadows

        <Define Name="USE_DYNAMIC_SHADOWS" Value="1" CacheSuffix="uds" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_INLINE_RAYTRACING" Value="0" CacheSuffix="uir" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_SHADOW_COLOR" Value="1" CacheSuffix="sc" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Define Name="USE_NEIGHBOR_SAMPLES" Value="0" CacheSuffix="nr" TargetShaders="cs" />
        <Permutation>
            <Element Name="UseRaytracedShadows" EnableMacroName="USE_RAYTRACED_SHADOWS" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="rtshd" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows"/>
            <!--<Element Name="UseShadowColor" EnableMacroName="USE_SHADOW_COLOR" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="sc" TargetShaders="cs" />-->
            <Element Name="UseContactShadow" EnableMacroName="USE_CONTACT_SHADOW" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="cs" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="UseNearFieldShadow" EnableMacroName="USE_NEAR_FIELD_SHADOW" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="nfs" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <!--<Element Name="UseNeighborSamples" EnableMacroName="USE_NEIGHBOR_SAMPLES" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="nr" TargetShaders="cs" />-->
            <Element Name="IsInterleaved" EnableMacroName="RENDER_SHADOW_INTERLEAVED" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="il" TargetShaders="cs" />
            <Element Name="IsHighQuality" EnableMacroName="IS_HIGH_QUALITY" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="hq" TargetShaders="cs" Condition="Windows" />
            <Element Name="IsComplexMaterial" EnableMacroName="IS_COMPLEX_MATERIAL" EnumType="Bool" Default="False" CacheSuffix="cm" TargetShaders="cs" />
        </Permutation>
        <ComputeShader Filename="ShadowAO.hlsl" EntryPoint="SceneShadowTiledCS" />
    </Pipeline>```

[jade flame]

yes

[drowsy iron]

Can put the 5080 to use now

[eager epoch]

Still happen

[jade flame]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[faint bobcat]

question is does it work and are they borked or not

they said they will do it themselves

[burnt berry]

its fixed for me

[eager epoch]

let me check again

[burnt berry]

i had it when i first loaded flicked through the models and fixed, maybe try giving it a toggle

[crude marsh]

did you see the bilateralreconstruct... above, there is a UseRayReconstruction flag, not sure if it is all happening in one pass or what

[faint bobcat]

yes, but in my shader there is no RayRec flag

shit isnt running and shimmers as a result

[jade flame]

It goes away but comes back when certain effects happen.
Easy way to check is to do the L1+R1 blade flash

[drowsy iron]

And the black bar is back...

[crude marsh]

I could try setting it to true

[burnt berry]

it did it the first time, but then stopped doing it again

[tame vault]

Apparently jumping feels a lot better now?

[burnt berry]

i tihnk its just model L thats broke

M and 4.0 seem to work fine for me

[faint bobcat]

yh so my permutation doesnt use the flag

if you can set it to true then kino

assuming it doesnt break

[distant prairie]

So what's the deal with DLSS 4.5 using a different color space

[jade flame]

Weird. Black bar is still there. But it doesn't do the black screen thing.
So kind of fixed??

[distant prairie]

Is it actually more dynamic or just clipped

[worn ibex]

Fixed an issue where screen quality appeared abnormal when activating FSR Ray Regeneration or DLSS Ray Reconstruction.
Fixed an issue where monitor size was incorrectly detected at certain resolutionsm causing abnormal display output.

Did this change anything?

[crude marsh]

I don't have a great way to validate, can I send you the file and see if anything changed

[jade flame]

nm. Still borked

How does this make it past QA???

[cosmic zenith]

Oh sheesh, is this what yall meant with teh black bar thing?

I never had that happen with DLAA

[faint bobcat]

yh, the game will spawn a new shader with RR inputs

thats how you know its working

[jade flame]

If it flashes at the top. When you do certain effects like the blade blind 1/2 the screen goes black

[placid snow]

you haven't had that? i've had it cover the entire screen for near 1 full second at times

[crude marsh]

goes in 0003 folder

[cosmic zenith]

Hm... have you tried forcing a different model? I was forcing model L

And I legit never had that happen... yet

[jade flame]

Does it in ALL models

[blazing ledge]

is this iphone recording HDR? or android, if android what model?

[analog charm]

thats how it used to look like for me before

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-rizz-gif-7498825386517350902

[eager epoch]

Iphone 15 pro

[cosmic zenith]

Weird, I wonder why I haven't had that happen

[crude marsh]

I set UseRayReconstruction to true, and also rt shadows default true

[cosmic zenith]

I'm using framegen at 4k

[jade flame]

40 series card?

[faint bobcat]

time to test special sauce

[cosmic zenith]

yeah 4090

[burnt berry]

It comes and goes its weird, sometimes it'll work fine for a few minutes then it'll popup again

[eager epoch]

Unplayable during combat

[jade flame]

I think it's a 50 series thing.
Though I did see one person on Steam board with a 4090 who also had it.
But it seems mostly 50 series users.

[placid snow]

yup im on 50 series

[cosmic zenith]

Well that sucks, I've heard of other weird issues only on 50 series cards

[faint bobcat]

Game's just stuck on splash screen

[crude marsh]

but my game is loaded

🤔

[faint bobcat]

Because I replaced the wrong file

[crude marsh]

ah

[faint bobcat]

Fucking dumbass

Nexus user

[cosmic zenith]

Real

[distant prairie]

Update made the game more stable without RR on ultra performance. DLSS4.5 doesn't have as bad of ghosting. Textures seem to be using less aggressive mip mapping to account for upscaling I am using the RenoDX snapshot. Rain is still broken however 🙁

[faint bobcat]

now it crashes

Chucked it into 0003

[crude marsh]

I literally copied the one from my game folder while the game was running

[jade flame]

Yeah. Even DLSS Q looks less ass now.

[gleaming marlin]

is 4.5 working with RR? i want to say no because it looks exaclty the same

[crude marsh]

just to double check

[crude marsh]

no such thing as DLSS 4.5 RR

RR wasn't updated

[jade flame]

RR uses it's own model that is based on 4.0.

[faint bobcat]

game crashes during splash screen

doesnt even enter

[crude marsh]

it might be the timestamp

[faint bobcat]

[daring orbit]

can you use the m preset for upscaling, when using RR?

[faint bobcat]

Denuvo that much of a asser

wrong timestamp and the game CTDs

[cosmic zenith]

May want to try moving that copy to a different folder. Dunno about CD but some games throw a fit if there are extra files

[crude marsh]

it shouldn't launch at all if its the timestamp issue

[naive terrace]

still no 1.00.03?

[viscid wedge]

its out now on steam

[crude marsh]

but also use the last version I posted cause I forgot a true in one place

[burnt berry]

worth going back to RR + Perf now 🤔

[crude marsh]

or I guess I could set up the dev kit

and fuck around with the shaders to see if my changes are doing anything

that way I don't have to bother you

[viscid wedge]

been on that for 25+ hours now at 4K

[dire pilot]

Steam can just push updates - every other storefront has to go through quality assurance with patches so there's always a few days delay

[hasty onyx]

How bigs the update on steam btw?

[burnt berry]

it looked kinda rough on 1440p but patch seems to have helped a bit?

[naive terrace]

ahhh

[dire pilot]

around 693MB

[static crag]

Game looks hella blurry at 1440p... Had to use DSR

Is there a way to remove sharpness

[crude marsh]

reno

[static crag]

Game is soooo sharpened even at 0

[lament nymph]

so what is the greymane, are they a gang or an ethnic tribe?

[static crag]

Yeah I'm using it it's at 0

[faint bobcat]

I am getting filtered by a simple drag and drop

so yes

[crude marsh]

is it really the timestamp

[static crag]

1440p dlss 4.5 dlaa...

game looks like a painting

not in a good way

[faint bobcat]

welcome to no RR and ReSTIR

[lament nymph]

I just did the mission that tells arthur morgan where to sell wagons

this is just fantasy rdr2 is it

[static crag]

ReSTIR???

[static crag]

this is literally smilling friends

[faint bobcat]

refer to the pin comment

[static crag]

bunch of quests to make random npcs happy

[crude marsh]

is there any extra setup for dev kit shader fuckery

[lament nymph]

the npcsi n this game are more insufferable

than forspoken mc

[crude marsh]

ok you know what is insufferable

[lament nymph]

just ppl that whine and moan and they never ask to think " did this guy just slain a 500 men camp by himself while we sit here moaning "

[burnt berry]

dont u love getting stunlocked by a beggar and u cant do anything but give him money

[crude marsh]

generic medieval fantasy soundtrack A B and C are SO GOD DAMN ANNOYING

[fresh field]

welcome to every major city

[faint bobcat]

for DX12 yes,

use this

might as well use the ini and all

points to the tools needed for snapshot to work

[static crag]

i just turned on rr and changed it to dlss quality because of performance and now the game still looks like a painting but with shadows

[crude marsh]

[whole shell]

no symlink?

[static crag]

oh my gawd bruh

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[crude marsh]

there is a certain time of day with clouds and what not where the game looks notably worse

like this

[lament nymph]

the bandits in this game has more ppl than a country ... may as well be their own country

[cosmic zenith]

I had a moment earlier where it was raining and looked good, then suddenly the lighting broke and became nothing but noise for like 15min, then back to normal rain

[mossy gust]

hmm, when i load the game it auto deletes reno from the game folder

[crude marsh]

antivirus

[static crag]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[mossy gust]

oh, i didn't think of that, thanks

[crude marsh]

"next gen"

[lament nymph]

what gen is next gen

[static crag]

ps3

[gleaming marlin]

i thought that tree looked great in Everquest 1999

[lament nymph]

they been saying next gen since demon's souls in 2020

and demon's souls actually look good

[cosmic zenith]

You have to kill like 200 bandits in the quarry, that's easily more people than the capital lol

[lament nymph]

I assume these missions that need you to kill 300 ppl require you to recruit more ppl and pitch them against the mobs

I just do these too early

[cosmic zenith]

I think they expect you to summon the other playable character to help

[lament nymph]

cause there's no way I had to go to this fort and killed 500 ppl myself

[burnt berry]

but the problem is, the companions are utter shit

so u end up doing it yourself anyway

[static crag]

are there any tips to make the game perform good and look good

[viscid wedge]

that bandit one... don't do that early. I spent an hour and all my food gettin the progress bar to 0, then realized I had to face a boss. And seemingly if you don't get to the boss quickly, the enemies respawn and the progress bar goes backwards. Its hell if you can't clear them quickly

[lament nymph]

I already did, just did the pirate one

by myself

[static crag]

is there like any config.ini to mess around

something like that

[cosmic zenith]

Maybe spears are busted, because I cleared thos places very quickly. The counter is really really good

[viscid wedge]

yeah I didn't know where theboss was, and the progress bar was refilling. I gave up and figured i'd come back later

[crude marsh]

get some gamer glasses and squint your eyes

or wait for Forge to work on his stuff more

[lilac urchin]

guys does the peak brightness on reno under tracks? i'm set to 2300 and does not go above 1900

[mossy gust]

lol

[lament nymph]

just wait for dlss 5

[viscid wedge]

hey so this devil of the reeds i'm tracking through this field right now, he's real easy right? right??

[lament nymph]

at least it will be competently looking instagram ish

[static crag]

i dont know how to explain like

this game looks good and bad

[lament nymph]

don't need to explain, just say game looks bad

[cosmic zenith]

I'm telling ya, spear counter put his ass in a sling. Dude couldn't do anything to me

[static crag]

but it looks good

but it also looks bad

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, it's very inconsistent visually. Sometimes it looks good, other times it falls apart

[worldly vapor]

everything that is close to you = good

[lament nymph]

at least naira is nice looking, except in this game we don't get to bang women

and kliff is secretly gay

[viscid wedge]

well i don't have a spear leveled and i hate soulslike style fights so this should be fun..

[static crag]

also am I the only one using like 70 saturation

[crude marsh]

that might be why your game looks like a painting

[cosmic zenith]

Real advice, don't spam dodge, just hit it once for the longer roll
He doesn't have a lot of HP, so focus on not getting overhwelmed over DPS

[static crag]

LMAO

This the only game I do that

[cosmic zenith]

If you stagger him, you get enough time to take out like 1/3rd of his HP too

[lament nymph]

if by the end of this game, kliff wants to go to tahiti, it will be my GOTY, otherwise