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[viscid wedge]

#1469072401450012774 message

[molten wind]

awesome

thx

[crude marsh]

aha!

I have derived the games key generation

[faint bobcat]

so complete fix when?

[manic finch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-excited-thrilled-exhilirated-gif-4176239

[faint bobcat]

when you adding PT

tha runs at 120FPS locked

8K

MSAA 16x

[manic finch]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547

[wispy crown]

Where's my 32x AF?

[faint bobcat]

I have

Laplacian texture blending

makes terrain look betta

Already tested it in BG3

[wispy crown]

When mod release though?

[faint bobcat]

when ready

[wispy crown]

We getting desperate Forge

[stone comet]

what do you mean its not ready its been 3 days since release

[wispy crown]

Obviously my question was sarcasm

[faint bobcat]

mfw I can magically fix every game issue in 2 days

[wispy crown]

Need to put /s behind these things

[wispy crown]

Just vibe code man

[stone comet]

what do you think mine was

lmfao

[manic finch]

is this the hardest game so far trying to get reno/u+ to work with?

seems so lol

shit is brutal

[wispy crown]

[faint bobcat]

The 'HDR' aspect isnt that harder comapred to any other addon. If fact the game's HDR actually wokrs

[wispy crown]

It's just a new engine and korean developers have crazy ideas about how to develop games it seems

[faint bobcat]

its just ACES v2 looks abysmal

[manic finch]

gotcha

[faint bobcat]

the problem with the game

is the game

everything is borked

[crude marsh]

<ColorPreset>
<Preset Name="BurnColor" Value="#ff5c05ff"/> <!-- Burn의 바깥쪽(캐릭터&배경팀) -->
<Preset Name="FlameColor" Value="#ff3b05ff"/> <!-- Burn의 안쪽(캐릭터&배경팀) -->
<Preset Name="ElectroColor" Value="#021C3D"/> <!-- 전기(이펙트팀) -->
<Preset Name="LavaColor" Value="#ff2400"/> <!-- 용암 바깥쪽(배경팀) -->
<Preset Name="LavaFlameColor" Value="#ff7005"/> <!-- 용암 안쪽(배경팀) -->
<Preset Name="ThornColor" Value="#ff0000ff"/> <!-- 가시덩굴 -->
<Preset Name="TrapColor" Value="#ff0000ff"/> <!-- Trap -->
</ColorPreset>

is this fire color the same as what you were looking at

[rough granite]

🙏🏻

[manic finch]

it's crazy how worse it looks compared to the previews we got like 2 weeks before.

the pop in and every other decision is totally insane

[crude marsh]

gimme a minute I have a better version and I am going to put it on github

[faint bobcat]

hmm, the shader I have doesnt contain this

[rough granite]

alright alright

[wispy crown]

What? The game previews look the same as the released game. Low bitrate on YouTube etc hid a lot of the flaws with the game but other than that it's the same.

[crude marsh]

was just curious if the fire colors could be fixed via this mechanism instead

[faint bobcat]

maybe, but the assets themselves are cooked

the game also does AP1

so that might be responsible for pink hues

I am testing

the flames go to 10K nits as well untonemapped so theyre completely brickwalled

[crude marsh]

yeah not sure where these color presets are used

[manic finch]

yeah guess it was because of youtube mainly then lol

[dire pilot]

huh, reshade says it can't load the CD add-on anymore with error 225

[crude marsh]

antivirus

[dire pilot]

sigh... and it was working fine yesterday

[molten wind]

Any mod do you guys know which eliminates the screen visual noise?

[frosty fulcrum]

depends on what you mean by noise

[rough granite]

Yes there is a mod called Forge

you can download it here

[molten wind]

thx

also in PIns?

[rough granite]

(was a joke 😛 Forge is one of the modders trying to improve things)

[dire pilot]

oh come on Windows, I'm clicking on allow threats for the add-on and it just ignores me and deletes it anyway

[rough granite]

at best you have RenoDX pinned for chromatic aberation and sharpness

[frosty fulcrum]

you can't download a person

[molten wind]

oh sorry 🙂

I see

[rough granite]

hold my AI girlfriend

[molten wind]

but still I see many noise in trees texture, and on walls

[frosty fulcrum]

Turning on RR helps a bit

[faint bobcat]

because nearly every aspect of this game has issues

shadows flicker and shimmer

displacement mapping flickers and shimmers

GI flickers and shimmers

LODs flicker and shimmer

terrain shadows pop in and outr

[molten wind]

yes

[faint bobcat]

no smooth blend

[polar crow]

its funny because people thought they were gonna drop a technical masterpiece for some reason ( I thought so too)

[manic finch]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-notes-gif-5990133

[faint bobcat]

it runs on a PS5 and it an open world and not on UE5 = therefore good

[rough granite]

might have been if they would have allowed to scale up towards high end PC

[faint bobcat]

DF throated the game as being the greastest thing since the wheel

so everyone fell for it

[vestal fossil]

does this mod disable CA??

[jade spruce]

throating something bigger than a wheel is not a good idea

[rough granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[faint bobcat]

yes

[jade spruce]

ngl, you had to be clinically blind to not see the shimmer in all the footage they released before the release

[vestal fossil]

ty

[faint bobcat]

they did atleast fix the meme

The game doesnt look this cursed

[jade spruce]

did they tho?

[faint bobcat]

so +1

The game has pink flames sure

but theyre not like in the teasers

[dire pilot]

okay, I finally fixed the false positive - Windows just ignored me when I said to ignore it so I had to go into threat history and restore it from there

[faint bobcat]

I havent seen any flames or torches that look like the above

[jade spruce]

thats good lol

[faint bobcat]

but they are still pink even with psycho

So I am working on fixing

[jade spruce]

still haven't bought the game: I had 1000IQ foresight(played too much BDO) so I knew not to trust them

[faint bobcat]

It will be good

5 years later

after 1030250252 patches and fixes

and mods

[jade spruce]

Frog desert

[faint bobcat]

I will have added Markov chain PT by then

Shit runs faster then their current abomination and looks better

[vivid iris]

I've never regretted wanting SDR support so much

[molten wind]

am I blind, or really the " sharpening" settings does not to so much?

[faint bobcat]

SDRlets in shambles

[vivid iris]

depends on random in-game settings

doesn't run in SDR and doesn't run if using fsr framegen

[faint bobcat]

black cloth fixed now

[solar bone]

[ember tulip]

next addon update going to be a massive game changer

[dapper slate]

What kind of values should peak brightness and game brightness be? I'm assuming peak is my 10%, then game brightness is my 100%?

[neon whale]

peak should be always the 1 or 2% window

[dapper slate]

What about game brightness then?

[solar bone]

whatever you like

[neon whale]

i always leave that at default

what is it, 203? I think?

[dapper slate]

Yeah, looks like its 203

[viscid wedge]

I've always heard (and set) the 10% value. First i'm hearing this. Then again everything seems variable at this point, there seems to be no firm consensus.

If you run the HDR Calibration tool and just eyeball it, you'll end up with roughly the 10% value.

And Reno reads from that value by default

[faint bobcat]

The base game is soo pink its UnrealTM

[neon whale]

I always see the peak as the max brightness your monitor is capable to. some monitors go from theoretial 1000+ nits at 1% to like 400 at 10%

[faint bobcat]

@mortal wolf

@clever spindle

[viscid wedge]

Yeah, monitors are mostly terrible at at brightness.

[dapper slate]

Yeah, mine is like 476 at 10%

[neon whale]

like if you have the sun on screen, having that capped at 450 nits is a shame when it can be 1000

[worthy kernel]

peak brightness is where the monitor clips in the HDR Calibration tool

unrelated to % windows

[mortal wolf]

pink is from textures or math? because everything receives a pink light, no?

[neon whale]

problem is that the HDR calibration tool is not accurate at all at times. hell one time I set everything accourding to it and then I go look at my display info and it reported 3000 nits lol

[viscid wedge]

Windows issue. Windows loves to lose your calibrated peak brightness value when it feels like it.

Or at least thats what i've observed over the last 3 years with a C2.

Set to 800. Sometimes you'll go into advanced and look and its empty, or 1499. Reboot and its back to 800.

[faint bobcat]

uhh ManyLightsData gets local light colour values from the engine

I guess they just made is very pink

[mortal wolf]

like hardcoded from cpu? or sampled from screen?

[faint bobcat]

CPU

it might be what Lazorr was showing me above

they seem to have values for the light sources

but they also run auto white balancing

[mortal wolf]

considering sky was using 8bit srgb values, maybe it changed to pink over going linear or something

[faint bobcat]

which changes hues constantly

[rough granite]

stoopid question: can CPU things like LOD distance can be changed by memory hooks / changes?

[faint bobcat]

if someone reverse engineers sure

we havent figured out anything like that

Base game / Reno Dee Legs

[neon whale]

no more pink. Gigachad

what color was that? sienna something

[golden scaffold]

Yeah happens all the time. But I thought it was because I was using 2 different displays. So it's not just me

[faint bobcat]

burnt sienna

Shortfuses favourite

[neon whale]

lmao

[faint bobcat]

Now to figure out if I can fix flames being a brickwall of white

they go to 10K nits unclamped

[mortal wolf]

how did you decide to hue shift? also could this be some ap1/srgb colorspace stupidity?

[frosty fulcrum]

this normal?

[faint bobcat]

Jon said it might be that and to test doing bt2020 to bt709 instead

rn I just did mcd boytoy neutwo per channel correction on the light shader alone

issues can arise if I try to replace AP1 entirely

I can test in the tonemapper shader

but if something else needs AP1 then oof

Will need to replace all shaders

[rose jewel]

this is fixed with the pinned addon or yet?

[faint bobcat]

no

I have a backlog of a bunch of upcoming changes

Dont want to rush a release

ready when ready

ofc I could just do a Pearl Abyss

and then nothing works

[rose jewel]

lmao nah we are more than happy to wait for your masterpiece 🔥

[stone comet]

okay nah the most triggering thing is you putting down food for animals and NPCS RUSHING TO GET THAT SHIT BRO WHAT

[dapper slate]

That literally just happened to me 😭

[stone comet]

AND LIKE MULTIPLE OF THEM RUN UP TOO

[mortal wolf]

which mcd, there's some old stuff floating around with bad numbers

[stone comet]

goated where winds meet enjoyer

[faint bobcat]

I used this one?

[mortal wolf]

hmmm... don't get too attached

[faint bobcat]

also AP1 to BT709 isnt at fault

they just authored pink lighting from CPU

[faint bobcat]

whats wrong

[crude marsh]

https://github.com/lazorr410/crimson-desert-unpacker

[mortal wolf]

the math, it's old numbers

// Default XYZ1931 -> LMS(CIE2006 2deg, energy) projection used across the library.
static const float3x3 STOCKMAN_CVRL_XYZ_TO_LMS_2DEG_FIT = float3x3(
    0.2670502842655792, 0.8471990148492798, -0.03470416612462053,
    -0.38706882411220156, 1.165429935890458, 0.10302286696614202,
    0.026727793989083093, -0.02729131667566509, 0.5333267257603284);
static const float3x3 STOCKMAN_CVRL_LMS_TO_XYZ_2DEG_FIT = renodx::math::Invert3x3(STOCKMAN_CVRL_XYZ_TO_LMS_2DEG_FIT);

[faint bobcat]

when Reno's worse and old is still a billion trillion times better than anything else

[mortal wolf]

i'm trying to clean it up

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/fix-it-snl-oscar-rogers-weekend-update-kenan-thompson-gif-10667500

[mortal wolf]

just weeks, if not months of psycho stuff that's been rewritten a bunch

psychov-11 has the right numbers

well, some of them

[grim pewter]

man the amount of work ur doing just to fix their game

ty

[faint bobcat]

so flames look to be two things

Asset authoring and additive blending compound pushes closer to white every time a blend is added

it just becomes white by the end

on top of high emissive values from asset authoring

hmm wonder what we can do

[crude marsh]

hopefully someone takes this repo and figures more stuff out, repacking still pain

[carmine stump]

Whats up with the pinned github link? Do I need this? xD

[faint bobcat]

github link is for source code

people were talking about Birus

so we added it

[carmine stump]

Okay

[faint bobcat]

code is all there if you want to review

no secret crypto

yet

[dire pilot]

no one would blame you forge for skimming a little off the top

[fiery nymph]

yo guys where download link ?

[crude marsh]

pins

[sleek veldt]

Made it to this room and it's night and day with the parallax off

Your fire isn't pixelated to all hell

mine is

[fiery nymph]

why reno UI doesn't show up ?

[rocky patio]

can someone guide me how to install/use reno for cd ? want to lower chromatic aberration and sharpness

[naive jackal]

@wispy crown Speaking of AF are Nvidia ever going to fix 16xAF on 50 series or are we just supposed to accept the red dots and lines all over the screen when forcing it for lifespan of the gen, beginning to think its borked at a hardware level

[neon whale]

look if your AV software didn't yoink the addon

it flags it as virus for some reason

[fiery nymph]

ok the addon is build in reshade

[wispy crown]

Wait AF is bugged on 50 series? I'm on a 4090. Never heard of that bug.

[fiery nymph]

i thought it was a separate wondow like many others

[worn ibex]

They alr fixed it on the new drivers

[naive jackal]

Ah nice, took their sweet time though

[crude marsh]

forge probably disabled VRS or something

noice, unpacker now on nexus

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/62

hopefully other people do something with it cause I am pretty done

[hardy owl]

What is this for exactly? Tool for modders?

[crude marsh]

yeah

[hardy owl]

It will make life easier for modding I guess. Good job man

[crude marsh]

thanks, hoping folks can take that and do something more useful

[jade flame]

wtf? Why??

[wispy crown]

False positive

[crude marsh]

cause heuristic AV is good

[jade flame]

I've been using this since it came out and it just noticed now? XD

[crude marsh]

it just popped up in their db or something

[worthy kernel]

because it's been downloaded a lot in a short period of time

[wispy crown]

Windows Update caused this afaik

[jade flame]

Got ya

[faint bobcat]

I found that some shaders use SV_ShadingRate which is per primitive shading rate, I adjusted addon side to force always run 1x1

I didnt notice a different but I guess this is it

all the sprites for flames and such all have SV_ShadingRate

its why decomp is also failing

[spring oasis]

Is blocky lighting of RTGI caused by VRS, or its their poor default denoiser? Also water is extremely low resolution looking, but I guess that's entirely separate issue and is not VRS related?

[faint bobcat]

pics

RTGI via RR is the cheapest coppiest version there is

anything without RR is just pain

VRS is what they apply to fx and all. I havent seen them use it for GI or lighting specificially

[tame vault]

What's the deal with certain light beam effects (e.g. the one when holding L1 to target where you jump) being all jagged and shit looking?

[crude marsh]

cheapest and ridiculously expensive at the same time lets goooooo

[faint bobcat]

what having no access to OOMs or SER does to a MF

I dunno what else they do

I have acess to their light BVH shader

[crude marsh]

I did try overriding via d3d12 call, I could maybe see if it does anything...

[faint bobcat]

and a bunch of other stuff

[faint bobcat]

that one does nothing

[mortal wolf]

finally got that stupid unordered branch

[crude marsh]

ah

[faint bobcat]

for this game anyways

[crude marsh]

yeah figures they wouldnt use a standard mechanism

[faint bobcat]

bad sampling perhaps

is it VFX or volumetrics?

or lighting

[tame vault]

It's any time there is a concentrated light beam. Looks terrible

Just hold L1

[faint bobcat]

uhh

so the key to do the blinding

[tame vault]

The key for precision jumping

The circle it makes looks like pixelated shit

Then certain zones have lots of electricity style beams, and it's a mess

DLSS Balanced, RR if it matters

[spring oasis]

By blocky lighting I meant the way light is resolved once a light source is introduced (lantern), 1440p DLSS Q model K, that's for sure not the DLSS issue.
Light propagation looks blocky in motion, but I couldn't capture the screenshot of it. Also, all reflective armors look 240p 24/7, all reflections are of extremely low quality, sadly.
RR is not an option without 5090, I'm on 32:9 with 4090 and its not enough to have my preferable framerate.

[grim pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-homelander-gif-16156538903600882075

[faint bobcat]

Welcome to their cope base lighting

If you want 'okish' lighting you need RR which uses ReSTIR

[spring oasis]

So no hope of this being resolved in any way apart from them revamping it. Got it. Thanks

[faint bobcat]

Correct

[spring oasis]

ReSTIR can be used without RR right? I mean generally

[tame vault]

This thing, looks ass

Always

[karmic void]

@faint bobcat in getting aggressive ABL with this game, daytime is dimming big time

[faint bobcat]

Yh, ReSTIR is just a technique to reuse lighting samples

[ember tulip]

is it ABL or is it clouds blocking the sun?

[faint bobcat]

It existed before RR

[tame vault]

The sunnier it is, the harder it is to see

[wheat elk]

radiance cascades when?

[faint bobcat]

Not display ABL, that's Pearl Abyss's signature auto exposure

BDO si the same

Need to be revamped

[spring oasis]

I hope devs will introduce better denoisers, but that's 99% not gonna happen 🙁

[karmic void]

Should I increase Exposure in HDR settings?

[faint bobcat]

you will then get blinded in other areas

the fix is to fix their slop code

everyuthing else is cope

[karmic void]

u mist fix this shit ngl

It's terrible

[tame vault]

Is there hope via mods? Or is that a pearl abyss thing?

[broken sonnet]

Fortunately my steam backlog is massive. I will let this slop cook some more

[tame vault]

Trying to understand the scope of what mods will achieve over the next week

[broken sonnet]

It’s frustrating that they only officially recognised the controls problem and nothing else.

[faint bobcat]

I was waiting for Shortfuse to decomp working histogram + auto exposure, it works now

[karmic void]

I'm hating this shit, just put the game now on I could easily sto playing for this bullshit alone

[faint bobcat]

just need to take a look

[tame vault]

I'm actually fine with the controls 😅 in fact I sadistically enjoy them

[spring oasis]

Water captured mid-motion. Reflections completely break, and the water itself looks lower res than environment.

[mortal wolf]

same 0x5a8ea2b?

[golden scaffold]

Can assure it's not ABL. I got plenty of headroom on my S95F and it's dimming a lot of scenes with no reason even on very conservative settings (1500 peaks, 150 game brightness = 0.6 exposure factor) all the time. Its the game doing it. And it sucks, very big time.

[tame vault]

Agreed, it's the single worst issue. Pop-in second

[faint bobcat]

this is a skill issue on their part

[spring oasis]

I would guess that copilot could fix their shader code in no time? Or is it terrible on shader languages? Like devs seem to not care much to not even try to use llm to review their work.

[golden scaffold]

The game will be like "oh you're looking at the clouds let's blind you by immitating fake HDR inside SDR although you'reactually in HDR by setting exposure to 1.5.

Oh what's that now? You're looking a the ground? Ok, set it to 0.5 so everything is dim.

That's what I feel like it's doing

[tame vault]

This game has me so excited to spend skill points though. Each new skill absolutely rocks

[faint bobcat]

yh histogram + AWB

it works I think

[golden scaffold]

Nothing is consistent. Some scenes will be blinding bright while others will just become dimmed like we got a huge cloud passing by. Reno fixes a lot but doesn't get rid of this autoexposure adjustments unfortunately

[faint bobcat]

I havent seen it bug out

[mortal wolf]

don't ask

[faint bobcat]

they built the game around SDR limitations using their dreadful auto exposure thought of process.

Even though in HDR we have plenty of dynamic range, it still using the same SDR auto exposure

[golden scaffold]

Yeah seems like a common problem many games are still doing this

[mortal wolf]

@faint bobcat

i'm happy it works

[faint bobcat]

wtf

their auto exposure is true kino

Atleast they dont appear to be using the diabolical per channel histogram with built in hue shifting

like BDO

[naive terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-blowing-up-cat-explosion-gif-6096353006687676670

[faint bobcat]

anyways your work isnt over

[viral nymph]

how i download the crimsom desert mod?

[faint bobcat]

auto white balance shaders dont decomp

plenty of shaders use VRS and dont decomp

[tame vault]

Is it fixable?

[tame vault]

From pinned comment

[frail wyvern]

Just give it time and let the Reno team cook 🙂

https://klipy.com/gifs/simma-downnow

[wispy crown]

Yeah wait for DLSS5. That will fix everything

[true dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/listening-chef-chris-cho-cooking-boiling-nodding-gif-22681223

[frail wyvern]

https://klipy.com/gifs/let-him-cook-cookin-1

[tame vault]

Fair. Just trying to guage how much to keep playing.

[viral nymph]

wich pinend coment? xd

[tame vault]

Erm

There are 2

[true dagger]

#1469072401450012774 message

[tame vault]

One has a download link

[true dagger]

this one

[true dagger]

you just click the addon64 one

[tame vault]

Until your antivirus gobbles it 🙃

[true dagger]

exactly

[tame vault]

Pc gaming 👌🏻

[spring oasis]

First time I see VRS used for lens glare... AAAA quality here, Ubisoft should take note

[faint bobcat]

they apply it to the vertex

should we fix, optimise and use good GI + denoising + shadows
nah lets run VRS on vertex to pixelated all VFX to shit for a 0.0003ms perf increase

[mortal wolf]

sdr

srv fixed

finally booted the game, why is the sky cyan? (vanilla)

[faint bobcat]

RGB scattering and co

depends

sometimes the sky is blue

[crude marsh]

here is the atmosphere render pass

[faint bobcat]

based

now I know what exactly builds up sky

[crude marsh]

bruh

[lapis smelt]

light is a cone

[crude marsh]

???

and this only happens after camera has zoomed in for conversation

[solar bone]

holy when is this coming

the eye adaptation in this game is pissing me off that is so good

[solar bone]

what you don't love indoors looking like an acid trip

[gleaming rivet]

its black desert online btw

[solar bone]

that's why i asked

[junior quail]

Where can I download the HDR Fix?

[fresh field]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-no-i-dont-think-so-i-will-not-today-gif-22895959

[autumn root]

Download done :p, now i've to found how install for test it 😂

[mortal wolf]

uh... sdr tonemapper isn't aces2

[faint bobcat]

custom s curve again?

[neon whale]

Reverse1999 sticker

[faint bobcat]

AWB on / AWB off

auto white balance toggle is in

@crude marsh I dont know if this was your issue

the white balance was what was causing colour changes

and hue shifts

[mortal wolf]

seems like it's postprocessing_ca_fsr_0x71215B70.ps_6_6.hlsl, just confirming

[crude marsh]

sigh

[rotund raptor]

Anybody get to the ||Reed boss|| ? That fight was insanely hard

[faint bobcat]

@vivid iris

[fresh field]

they too busy fighting the HDR boss

[stone comet]

first tried it was pretty fun, not sure how much exploring you did before

[crude marsh]

this might be the indoor blue lighting thing yeah

looks fucking awful

[mortal wolf]

is sdr not pink?

did they just use ACES2 for HDR?

[stray grove]

im kinda new to renodx is it normal i cannot control the colorgrading in Crimson Desert>

[cobalt sorrel]

had no issues up until today and stupid windows security flagged and quarantined the renomod file for me just now lmao. so dumb, wonder why all of a sudden and not the last few days

[mortal wolf]

SDR is in postprocessing_0xC4411262.ps_6_6.hlsl

float exposure_scale = _userImageAdjust.z * _exposure0.x;

float3 bt709 = float3(
  max(0, (ap1.r * 1.70505) - (ap1.g * 0.62179) - (ap1.b * 0.08326)),
  max(0, (ap1.g * 1.14080) - (ap1.r * 0.13026) - (ap1.b * 0.01055)),
  max(0, (ap1.b * 1.15297) - (ap1.g * 0.12897) - (ap1.r * 0.02400))
) * exposure_scale;

float3 curved = pow(
  max(0, bt709 * _slopeParams.xyz + _offsetParams.xyz),
  _powerParams.xyz
);

float luma = dot(curved, float3(0.212671, 0.71516, 0.072169));
float3 saturated = lerp(luma.xxx, curved, _powerParams.w);

// extra log-domain remap / shoulder shaping
// then transform back and clamp to [0,1]

gpt says

ye, that's tonemapper

[viscid wedge]

yep, you and everyone else.

[sly swift]

shortfuse giving us malware 😟

[cobalt sorrel]

yea just strange bc i never had this with any other renomod or random thing ive gotten from github before lol

[worn ibex]

second img looks good (better)

[cobalt sorrel]

windows annnoying af

[mortal wolf]

@tacit raft have you analyzed this game yet 🙏

[faint bobcat]

toggle so you will be able to pick and choose

[sly swift]

I will just assume since it’s not signed & many people are using it at once, windows might assume it’s a potential suspicious file or something

[faint bobcat]

something something

[neon whale]

[crude marsh]

I might also have restir disabled but I have no idea if I do or not

[frail wyvern]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sora-cooking

[mortal wolf]

SDR tonemaps in BT709, not AP1

[tight wind]

Wow, amazing! When will it be available?

[faint bobcat]

never

I am just blueballing

[jade flame]

This mean we might be able to not have to use RR just so we don't get scuffed indoor lighting?

[faint bobcat]

I am just adjusting auto exposure

I guess it makes noise a bit less noticable

might make RR off indoor lighting too dark

I dunno

[jade flame]

I saw Raytracing Improvement in the options so I was wondering.

[mortal wolf]

// Final user controls after tonemapping:
      // y = contrast-like scale, x = brightness/pivot shift, w = gamma-like tweak.
      float _3136 = _userImageAdjust.y + 1.0f;
      float _3140 = _userImageAdjust.x + 0.5f;
      float _3152 = 2.200000047683716f / ((min(max(_userImageAdjust.w, -1.0f), 1.0f) * 0.800000011920929f) + 2.200000047683716f);
      _3163 = exp2(log2(saturate(((_3128 + -0.5f) * _3136) + _3140)) * _3152);
      _3164 = exp2(log2(saturate(((_3129 + -0.5f) * _3136) + _3140)) * _3152);
      _3165 = exp2(log2(saturate(((_3130 + -0.5f) * _3136) + _3140)) * _3152);

oof user grading after tonemap

[frail wyvern]

Contact Pearl Abyss and tell them how to fix their game

https://klipy.com/gifs/lmao-lmao-meme

[faint bobcat]

that WIP, and for my own debugging

[jade flame]

Am guessing it's going to attempt to increase the RT samples to be higher than 1/16

[faint bobcat]

I havent "improvemend much"

[faint bobcat]

thats not avalaible shader side

thats DXR calls

not something I can adjust

[jade flame]

Honestly I wouldn't use RR at all if indoor lighting wasn't so fucked.

[tight wind]

Is there any way to fix the indoor lighting right now? It looks like Minecraft.

[vivid iris]

I checked this and it did nothing 🤔

Like the branch never ran

[jade flame]

Only thing you can really do is turn on RR and cut your fps in half.

[tight wind]

I have a 3080 and I go from 70+ fps on Cinematic, 1440p DLAA to 30 fps with RR. I don't know if it's a bad implementation or if my GPU doesn't handle it well, but I can't stand FG.

[smoky brook]

please dear god nuke the spawning random shit on the ground shader

[jade flame]

That's just what RR does.
Go down to Balanced or Performance DLSS to compensate.

[viscid wedge]

its been discussed in here for days, all the options are just the worst possible versions of themselves. On that card you'll be forced to use DLSS if you want to run RR.

Yeah, Balanced or even Performance on a 3080, unfortunately. Or just run no RR and deal with those visual issues.

[daring orbit]

i recommend using fsr fg, its worth a shot

[viscid wedge]

I've never noticed RR be this impactful in any other game.

[stray grove]

i feel like RR has visual issue on its own the rain look terrible with RR on there so much noise

[faint bobcat]

refer to pin note to explain why

its not just denoising

[mortal wolf]

mismatches acesv2

[ocean onyx]

damn, giving them props for at least using the same crap in both sdr and hdr, and turns out they aren't using the same thing in sdr

[mortal wolf]

let's try 250

[sly swift]

Won't lie, it took me a moment to realize that when you mentioned GX9, you were talking about the 45" right? I was like huh? GX9? But yeah we pretty much have the same panel with slight variances right. Anyways, I think I know what you're trying to say. At first, I had assumed that the display would automatically tonemap what it deserves to be at 1300 nits within a 1.5 window, but I didn't consider it controlling anything past that. Now I'm still new to HDR, but I was playing with Death Stranding 1 and noticed that even past the average 1190 peak nits, everything was more or less the same. I do not know if that's how it's supposed to be, or if it it's because of the monitor. I don't know the actual intended error that happens when you put a peak brightness higher than what the monitor can handle. I'm probably going to stick with Gamer 1 (Low) anyways since i kinda feel like monitors reaching 1000+ is funny anyways, even just 1.5%, so I'm more okay with it being capped at 650 since that's the 10% window avg. according to RTINGs. The 10% average for Gamer 2 (High) is 720. Though, I think you may be right on LG monitors to be capped at 1300 since well, the display does everything for you I guess. Am I getting somewhere?

[sleek veldt]

Gotta level up some more

[viscid wedge]

Thats interesting. It doesn't mean a whole lot to me as I don't make games, just play them. Cool though.

[faint bobcat]

Base ACES V2 / Reno Dee Eegs modified

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[cosmic zenith]

I bodied him by using the spear counter(Dodge + light attack) then focusing to recharge spirit

[faint bobcat]

We luv ACES and Pearl Abyss

[neon whale]

just a question: can everything you're doing be messed up, or become useless if the developers updates the game in certain way?

[faint bobcat]

probably

either we will have to updatre

or just stay on older version of the game

[wispy crown]

The 45GX950A has forced tonemapping in HDR so everything above the max brightness of the panel gets tonemapped into the physical capabilities. Make sure you ran on the newest firmware since it fixes the EOTF curve tracking to be accurate which handles the tonemapping. You really should put Peak Brightness on Max with the newest firmware since otherwise you're capped to 400 nits max peak brightness afaik since it follows the True Black 400 standard.

[faint bobcat]

I doubt anything Pearl is cooking will be better

[mortal wolf]

oof

[neon whale]

is it even possible with steam?

[mortal wolf]

they even broke it

[neon whale]

I still don't understand why there isn't any option to just block updates

[faint bobcat]

theres a way to force delete a file

so it never updates

it never process the call

[neon whale]

the .manifest file?

[novel kayak]

If using RR, is it recommended to use DLSS4? I heard there was issues with 4.5?

[faint bobcat]

yh

Beth modding we do it

[karmic void]

bruh tell me we can unslop auto exposure pls! @faint bobcat literally I'm about to hammer my screen

[faint bobcat]

look above

[neon whale]

RR uses it's own DLSS

even if the game says 4.5, RR still uses DLSS RR preset D

[karmic void]

Luv u

[novel kayak]

gotcha. but it still uses the scaling values for DLAA/Q/Balanced etc that you select in the UI right?

[daring orbit]

these particular fish, are hard to cath

[neon whale]

yeah. it's just a different model

[daring orbit]

lol look at those trash tree lods

[karmic void]

@crude marsh did u find anything for the pop in?

[neon whale]

RR has its own DLSS. presets A B C are CNN D and E are Transformer

[daring orbit]

you can switch it to e

[wispy crown]

Yeah but E has some issues. Different ones but it made me switch back to D

[sleek veldt]

I just feed myself mid fight like a fatass

[jade flame]

Heard E looks worse. But haven't tried it yet.

[neon whale]

yeah I know. but if you use RR the game uses D by default. you need to use Profile inspector or other such software to change it

[daring orbit]

what are they?

[wispy crown]

More noise in the GI, way worse flickering in sunrise/sunset scenes. Sometimes character cutscenes stark to sparkle.

[neon whale]

unfortunately the game is fucked. DLSS 4.0 has issues, 4.5 has different issues. Same thing about RR. it's a pick your posion situation

[jade flame]

With RR on I get weird static shadow artifacts.
Pick your poison. 🤷

[wispy crown]

4.0 4k DLAA or RR Performance. That are the best options imho.

[daring orbit]

i guess i hadnt noticed that, did you try removing the in game, and dlss sharpening?

[wispy crown]

Yes

[daring orbit]

huh

[neon whale]

RR pefomance at 1440p is terrible though

that's only valid at 4K

[wispy crown]

I'm playing in 5120x2160. If you're at 1440p just play 4.0 DLAA I guess.

[earnest beacon]

getting the same, did u ever solve it ?

[daring orbit]

i cutomized the dlss presets, kinda just slightly more uposcaling than balanced

[neon whale]

DLSS quality and RR gves me 43 FPS lol. even framgen at such low FPS isn't great

[mortal wolf]

SDR is just reinhard

[jade flame]

I can't get custom ratios to work. RIP

[wispy crown]

Yeah RR isn't viable under 5080/4090/5090.

[jade flame]

Even then. Because how rough DLSS looks in this game I constantly debate if RR is even worth it. 85% of gameplay is outdoors anyways.

[worthy kernel]

performs like a PT title but looks awful

so cool

[daring orbit]

optiscaler

[jade flame]

Got ya. Makes sense.

[wispy crown]

Agree but for me RR just makes the cut slightly.

[tacit raft]

I don't have it, not gonna buy it and I have no other way of testing it outside of some very shady Kernel level cracks
Pumbo did made several posts about it on the website for fuckwads tho

[wispy crown]

Yeah I can see the technical issues and some things look awful but somehow I still often stand still and think to myself "Damn this is incredibly beautiful". Somehow I hadn't had this feeling in a game since CP2077 or Star Wars Outlaws I think?

[daring orbit]

im playing at 90-100 fps with fg with rr who cares if there is latency, it doesnt fukin matter. the controls in this game are like driving a 1970s farm truck or something

[tender temple]

Can someone send the link to the crimson desert mod?

[neon whale]

pin

[mortal wolf]

@clever spindle SDR is more Reinhard by Y than ACESv2 since it's "optimized"

[neon whale]

top right

[little lily]

its a renodx is regularly marked as threat in defender?😭

[solar bone]

for some games yes

[wispy crown]

90-100 FPS... I remember playing GTA5 on my Xbox 360 which dropped regularly to 25 FPS or below... This is luxury compared to these times.

[tender temple]

Thanks mate!

[jade flame]

More power to you.
I find FG looks like shit in this game.
It's not even blurry, the frames just don't resolve correctly.

[tame vault]

Doubt your Xbox 360 was £4000

[little lily]

oh yeah just read the pin of the download link, i am gonna trust yall ❤️

[mortal wolf]

@vivid iris sdr is reinhard by luminance

[karmic void]

I'm using DLSS Balanced to get 65/70fps average

Basically PT performance

[tender temple]

The thing that makes the game unplayable for me is that the texures seem incredibly low even at 4k and everythings blurry. Does the mod help with this?

[wispy crown]

Game runs quite well on consoles. Also not like something like AC4 Black Flag got us stable 60 fps even with High End PCs on release.

[neon whale]

the developers fucked up the DLSS implementation

[jade flame]

Not at the moment at least.
You using DLSS?

[tame vault]

I'm just jibing. I'm really enjoying the game, despite (or maybe because of) it's technical craziness

[neon whale]

so you get the downscaled textures basically

[karmic void]

tbh that was first time for me

[faint bobcat]

YUM

[crude marsh]

dude, this is so much better

[vivid iris]

Where’d you find it? The code you mentioned did’t run when I checked

[crude marsh]

good shit

[tender temple]

I've literally tried every upscaling including no upscaling and its still a blurry mess and low res textures. I don't know what to do? Is it my specific download?

[neon whale]

so nice

[clever spindle]

weird they went that way, ACES 2 would be free if done through a LUT.
But either way reinhard by rgb luminance wouldn't look far, except it clips.

[wispy crown]

Yo when WIP release we will all treat as full release and bug report everything? Looks great btw

[crude marsh]

the game looks pretty low quality across the board, perhaps that is what you are noticing?

[faint bobcat]

No you will send a report to Pearl and tell them fix

[wispy crown]

I will send bug reports to my mom and Pearl Abyss directly when we get WIP release

[jade flame]

We know that using DLSS also scales the game's textures because the devs messed up. So using Native or DLAA is your best option to reduce the texture issues.

[daring orbit]

fsrfg isnt working like it should, its extra blurry

i know its not as good as nivida, but ive used it alot in skyrim, and its not this bad

[tender temple]

I mean it looks like pretty 240p to me in some instances its mental. Completely unplayable. Especially in the distance here

[crude marsh]

FSRFG seemed to be disabling some things like sharpening

[wispy crown]

Yeah rain is completely bugged.

[karmic void]

but this 5mt pop in at least we gotta fix it ffs. I don't even mind it at medium distance

[jade flame]

Do you have blur and DoF off?

[little lily]

i wonder for yall guys, i dont have nvidia gpu... maybe try using FSR3.1 implementation in the game and then translate the FSR3.1 inputs thru Optiscaler and select DLSS... maybe that might fix the textures?

[tender temple]

yup all of of those settings are off. It's like the blur doesn't change a thing.

[crude marsh]

the games LODs and draw distances are extremely bad

and texture budget is super low

[frail wyvern]

GamersNexus shows that the game's Depth of Field is pretty horrendous

[little lily]

I am just guessing.. I have RX9070 from Optiscaler, i use it quite often

[stone comet]

what is going on blud

[crude marsh]

most things in the distance are just really low resolution

[frail wyvern]

That's why anything 2 feet in front looks blurred out

[tender temple]

This is at 4k by the way haha

[crude marsh]

it would be any upscaling

[jade flame]

Maybe, but I doubt it.

[jade flame]

Still look like poop when not raining?

[tender temple]

Is there any way to fix it?

[frail wyvern]

No but there will probably be a Depth of Field mod at some point

[little lily]

like all upscalings are broken in game? on fsr4 it looks quite okay, tho the game has some very bad graphical glitches on my bazzite install

[violet oyster]

I played with the Crimson Desert RenoDX mod since yesterday, but this morning, Windows Defender identified it as a threat : PUA:Win32/GameHack . Is this a false positive? I downloaded the mod from the pinned post in this Discord channel.

[crude marsh]

false positive

[viscid wedge]

what card? i'm at 4k with a 4090. DLSS4.0 Performance + RR. Sometimes I bump it up to balanced. HUB's recommended settings, mixture of Ultra and Cinematic. Usually in the 70's. Still looks like ass at times but its enough to enjoy myself.

[tame vault]

I'm sure this is asking too much but what I would find super helpful is if we could compile a list of the major issues (e.g. pop-in, auto exposure, DLSS breaking textures) and categorise them into: A) definitely can be fixed by mods, working on it B) possibly can be fixed by mods, will take time C) absolutely needs Devs to fix

[tender temple]

Yup everythings blurry like a meter ahead of me. I did have HDR on as well tbf. I know the HDR is awful in this game. I haven't downloaded the mod yet though which i'm looking forard to

[little lily]

same, read the pinned message, i allowed it

[sudden pulsar]

@faint bobcat So... Now that I finished RE9, have you unslopped things enough for me to warrant a purchase, or are we still an eon away from that?

[neon whale]

the mod lets you disable sharpening and chromatic aberration, both are needed because they are garbage

[tender temple]

Yeah I've tried all those settings and it looks garbage all the time, it's like the DLSS settings don't change the image at all for me. I'm on a 5070

[neon whale]

without those 2 the game is a lot better

[violet oyster]

@tender temple if you have rtx 4080 level card, you can turn on Ray Reconstruction and get over 70 fps. Ray Reconstruction fixes most graphical glitches with the game

[rose jewel]

guys i installed inventory expansion mod then i delelted it but rendo addon wont work how to fix this?

[viscid wedge]

oof, 5070 is going to be rough with RR at 4K.

[faint bobcat]

ehh, unslopped a lot of colour related stuff

[little lily]

i bet windows defender flagged it

[faint bobcat]

graphically no

[sudden pulsar]

[tender temple]

I'll try the mod now sounds amazing.

[crude marsh]

RR turns on something that is actually like RTGI

not just RR

[soft timber]

So what would some of you say is best?

4k dlss 4.5 quality preset L with everything maxed out at 100+fps (no frame gen)

Or 4k dlss 4.0 performance with ray reconstruction but using frame gen? Which looks better in your opinion?

[tame vault]

RR

[sick monolith]

wdym dlss breaking textures? aren't they already broken to begin with (DLSS off) because of PA "optimization"?

[soft timber]

I feel like the game looks sooo damn blurry at dlss performance in this game

[violet oyster]

@crude marsh Yeah, it also makes the game look very very nice 🙂

[viscid wedge]

probably flagged by Microsoft Security like has happened to everyone else today. Not a RenoDX issue, but just AV's being AV's. Read the pinned post and set an exclusion list of the CD directory.

[faint bobcat]

EON is in though

looks prettyu good

[tender temple]

Yup haha I prefer to not even use ray tracing with most games and usually they still look amazing.

[rose jewel]

yes it appeared for me but what should i do to fix it?

[smoky brook]

RR on being more expensive than cyberpunk PT is kinda funny

[tame vault]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrimsonDesert/s/XHjuBUVrBQ

[crude marsh]

unfortunately this game is simply much lower quality than modern standards, and if you notice (idk how you wouldn't) then you are going to have a bad time

[sudden pulsar]

Noice

Not released yet tho, right?

[violet oyster]

The only thing that is bad about this game is the god awful controls, IMO

[soft timber]

It sucks because it genuinely can look pretty at times but only under specific situations and or only in screenshots

[tender temple]

The strange thing is in every other title i've played DLSS 4.5 performance looks pretty idedentical to native 4k to me. But this game any DLSS settings looks horrendous

[jade flame]

I would stay away from FG in this game. It's really bad.
Either 4k DLSS 4.0 Q
OR
4k DLSS B + RR
Some go down to performance. But the higher you can stay with the presets in this game the better because it doesn't do DLSS super well.

[viscid wedge]

The only??

[smoky brook]

the thing bothering me most is when it spawns twigs directly onto your eyeballs

[tame vault]

FG is fine for me. What's the main problem?

[jade flame]

The only thing that bothers me is how bad indoor lighting is without RR. Actually broken.

[faint bobcat]

ready when ready

[flat delta]

How can I get this thing? I still have to navigate to the inventory just to use potions

[violet oyster]

I'm happy with the game so far, except I'm not sure how to bind 19 diffferent skills to 19 differnt keyboard keys, and that's on top of all of the regular controls that already take up like 20 different keys

[low crane]

Ayo, that looks fantastic. When can we expect a release ?

[faint bobcat]

[jade flame]

It just blurry. But not the kind you can fix with sharpening.
It's a blur caused by FG smear frames.

[crude marsh]

do you know exactly where upscaling/RR is supposed to go in the pipeline?

[pearl goblet]

Hold down right d-pad, assign what food u want used

[faint bobcat]

RR runs for their RT and restir stuff

but it doesnt apply to voxelGI which is why windows have noise

[crude marsh]

I am trying to see if it would work to move something in the render pass

[violet oyster]

@jade flame The blurriness goes away almost entirely when you enable ray reconstruction though/

[tame vault]

Ah, yeah I'm using RR

That's whh

[jade flame]

Not for me it doesn't

[rotund raptor]

This is simply not true

[tender temple]

Anyone else having the problem that haptics and vibration not working on ps5 controller?

[crude marsh]

yeah, doesn't work

[flint moss]

Niiiice

[faint bobcat]

VoxelGI didnt work

oof

[soft timber]

These are screenshots I found and it's why it sucks lol it can look good sometimes but only in screenshots I feel

[violet oyster]

I "Restored" a Windows Defender "threat" for the RenoDX addon file. Do I need to make an exception for it something in Win11? I'm not sure how this works in win11

[karmic void]

Just allow this file

[crude marsh]

this is an interesting file

[rough granite]

smallscaleplacementinfo.xml
largescaleplacementinfo.xml

is the game procedurally generating grass and rocks around us, or its before going in game?

[faint bobcat]

they do seem to have such a system

since it randomly proc gens twigs

and pebbles

Reno overwrites all settings over than UI brightness for now

also welcome back chief

[crude marsh]

nice to see the tool is working 🙂

[autumn root]

There is no way to have the RR denoiser applied with anything other than maximum lighting settings? 🙁

[cosmic zenith]

I tried that but I didn't cook any spirit meals, and my cooked apples were way slower than just focusing

[crude marsh]

RR doesnt use max lighting settings, it does its own thing and there is currently no way to decouple them

[rose jewel]

i tried to do it this is what i get

[autumn root]

Yet, enabling RR clearly sets the lighting to maximum. And if I disable RR and also set the lighting to maximum, I end up with the same FPS loss.

[crude marsh]

if we were to put it in terms of a lighting setting... RR would be like running max lighting but 3 or 4 steps above that

[rough granite]

yeah, not sure I'll bring much benefit as reverse eng. and game stuff is far beyond my skill, but exploring still 😄

[cyan hinge]

Is it me or does this game look fucking ass

[violet oyster]

@viscid wedge You need to go to "Protection history" of windows security settings and "restore" the threat.

[crude marsh]

its bad yeah

[tranquil estuary]

If you read the thread at all, it isn't you, lol.

[tame vault]

Just you, goat graphics

[viscid wedge]

I don't need to, i did what I suggested 5 hours ago and have been playing fine since.

[cyan hinge]

Son you can literally see tiling on roofs in first 15 minutes of game

Low res textures in 2026

Korean jank

[crude marsh]

#1469072401450012774 message

[tranquil estuary]

Become one with the VRS, be it.

[viscid wedge]

yeah if you're downloading it again its probably grabbing it right from your downloads folder and nuking it. You can try what @violet oyster is suggesting but I was just quick and copied it over. Whatever works.

[plush parcel]

What's in that cabin... MY EEYYYESS MY EEEEEEYYYES

[violet oyster]

@viscid wedge my Windows Defender just straight up removed the addon file this morning, after I played for 8 hours last night. I had to "restore" the files from the Action Center in win11.

[autumn root]

I’m only talking in terms of performance.

[viscid wedge]

I understand, this happened to everyone today. We've been answering questions about it since this morning 🙂

[tranquil estuary]

Welcome to automatic sample submission and a lot of people downloading a "new" file.

[crude marsh]

the RR setting uses its own lighting quality in addition to RR and this is baked into the games rendering pipeline

[autumn root]

RR => Light max => 70 fps
RR OFF => light max => 70 fps

That’s why I was asking whether the denoiser could—or could have—been applied with another setting. For example, just on the water, which looks really not great without RR… x)

[rough granite]

he just mistake and bought same items twice on amazon

[autumn root]

But it seems not :p

[crude marsh]

thats not true

[autumn root]

It is... I've just test it. 5 minutes ago

[crude marsh]

RR costs like 30 fps more

when comparing max to RR

[autumn root]

Omg. My bad, it re-enables RR without me noticing… so annoying lol

[plush parcel]

Yea I was talking of the 1000nits circle in the middle

[rose jewel]

worked thanks!

[daring orbit]

Im just going to buy a bunch of food and blast through this game

Is the spear good?

[tender lava]

dumb question, how do i download this mod?

trying to find pins but i dont see it on the thread

[frail wyvern]

Don't forget Crimson Desert Twitch drops are live

[tender lava]

nvm just needed to make it fullscreen

thanks for humoring my dumb question

[stray grove]

is it normal i can't change color grading with renodx in CD?

[quartz flame]

just installed this addon and i got some errors seems

[plush parcel]

You're antivirus quarantined it

[quartz flame]

also i dint got that slider

[plush parcel]

You need to restore it

[quartz flame]

i see lol ,ya i did that already at first it quarantined the file

then i restore it

[plush parcel]

then restart the game and it should work

[quartz flame]

i did but same i got the same error weird

[plush parcel]

I think since you moved it to the game folder (hopefully) you need to re-restore it

[daring orbit]

I dont kniw why but you have to go through two of those defender notifications

Check the next few below the last one

[quartz flame]

hmm weird the file its still there in the game main folder

but still im getting that error

[final imp]

I’m scared boss

[jade flame]

Living walls

[plush parcel]

in bin64 I assume.
Maybe add an exception for the file in windows security

[quartz flame]

ya i already did that earlier but still doesnt want to work

anyway will try with ms defender completely disabled now

[novel kayak]

So just to summarize. If I want best visuals (im on a 5090) - enable RR, DLAA/DLSS Quality + renodx: leave at default settings, just adjust brightness for my monitors limit. Missing anything?

[quartz flame]

so first install reshade then add the file?

[daring orbit]

Not DLAA

[quartz flame]

inside the game main folder

[mortal wolf]

#1469072401450012774 message

Maybe it's a bad recompile, but it's rgba16f input to rgba16f out then it does the fsr ca shader. Unless fsr does some tonemapping

[daring orbit]

Bin64

[quartz flame]

maybe i frg the order ^^

[daring orbit]

It doesn't fukin matter the order

[quartz flame]

i rem first u isntall reshade addon then put the file where the game exe is

[mortal wolf]

It's when it goes AP1 to bt709

[lament nymph]

did they fix the game? I just wokeu p

[quartz flame]

i updated my reshade ver also now was kinda old was using 6.6.2 before

hope this fix it

works now ya the damn reshade add ver. was to old ^^

my bad

[tame vault]

Yep, faultless now

[quartz flame]

with the latest v.7.73 works now

it just me or the vanilla hdr in this game looks pretty dark?

on PC

[sly swift]

has anyone's opinion on the game changed yet or nah

[solar bone]

yeah sure it's fun

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

Get in ^^

[stray grove]

@sly swift looking past all the issue im having a blast ahah

[smoky brook]

it's the best jank ever made

[sly swift]

might be best way to describe it lol

[cosmic zenith]

Blast haver detected

[smoky brook]

Nicholas cage as a game energy

[sly swift]

i'll prob pick it up when it's on sale, i don't think it's worth the $70 for me

[remote mountain]

Going to be lazy for the first time since my channels are not popping up.

Do we have a solution/fix for the violent wind/foliage or at least the sharpening of all the foliage/shadows?

Sorry prob get this q every day

[cosmic zenith]

Reno(check pins) can help with the CA and sharpening

[remote mountain]

This ye?

[quartz flame]

got it for 48 euro 2 days ago on eneba

steam key

[faint bobcat]

Welcome back Death Stranding sky hues

[cosmic zenith]

Yep, install that with reshade and you'll get a slider for sharpening and CA(set both to 0 imo)

[sly swift]

ehhh maybe might get it at that price but i'll think about it

i wont plan on playing it anytime soon since i wanna play more res. evil and death stranding so i'll prob pick it up later

[cosmic zenith]

The game is looking more and more like Dragons dogma lmao

[faint bobcat]

difference is we will fix unlike Capcum

[vivid iris]

I’ll take another look, maybe I did something stupid

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/we-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-14928204287258878513

[analog parrot]

fixing the autoexposure should also help with the bright night sky, right?

[faint bobcat]

no

[analog parrot]

when you look directly at it, it's darker

[faint bobcat]

thats their authoring

oh

thats auto exposure

[analog parrot]

yep

[quartz flame]

Game Vanilla HDR looks kinda weird to me i mean a little to dark for my liking compared to other hdr games

[analog parrot]

it's still brighter than I'd like, but at least it's better

[mortal wolf]

Apparently my devkit was borked because root signature tracking was all wrong. So now it's faster and dx12 isn't as dumb about descriptor heaps

I had to rewrite stuff and break UnrealEngine

[faint bobcat]

gib

I need

[hasty onyx]

Im using autohdr and its actually really good ngl

[remote mountain]

Hate being this guy rn, apologies. I'm installing reshade here and I assume I am supposed to click browse and grab the renodx-crimsondesert.addon64 but it's not the correct file format. Is there a separate way to install this "renodx-crimsondesert.addon64" with reshade? Also, this is the only file we have to download, correct?

[faint bobcat]

ignore

not needed

you download the ,addon

drop it in

[hasty onyx]

Get the full addon version of reshaade and just slap the reno addon in the game folder

[faint bobcat]

you dont need reshade shaders

did they bork UI mask?

[cosmic zenith]

You can just skip effects and plugins

[hasty onyx]

Yeah its fked

[faint bobcat]

oofers

I have FG off for devkit atm

so what about the game isnt fucked

I guess they use Burley

[hasty onyx]

Combat

[faint bobcat]

so 100 points

over lambert

[quartz tendon]

Reshade with addons, click everything off (except if you want something) then next, there you don't need anything either. Done. DL the addon file from this chat pinned, add it to exe folder, done. (You can even exclude the Crimson Desert folder from Defender to avoid eventual removal by it)

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/ue5-unreal-engine-unreal-unreal-engine-5-threat-interactive-gif-12177103837403100126

[hasty onyx]

Na game is actually decent ngl, just the textures look ps2 up close

[plain fractal]

Does anyone know if there is a fix for the black flickering bar on the of the screen when turning on DLAA ?

[hasty onyx]

U got fg on?

If so could be that

[plain fractal]

Nah, just RT

[hasty onyx]

They did say an update should roll out soon

So prolly wait for that

Prolly Tuesday

[plain fractal]

Does anyone else have this?

[viscid wedge]

Most if not all of those issues are fixed with RR, which means upscaling in most cases (not DLAA) due to the performance cost.

[remote mountain]

Downloaded reshade again with the addon supported version. Skipped all the extra stuff reshade asked to enable. Plugged the addon folder into the same folder as the exe. Exe and addon64 are both highlighted. Everything alright now? Anything I gotta do with reshade once I am ingame?

[quartz tendon]

Looks good

[plain fractal]

Just started the game and im still not sure if Im going to use RR. The perofrmance cost is really heavy on an rtx 4070ti. But it also looks really good

[cosmic zenith]

??? I've been using reno for days and used reno on pretty much every other game without issue and today Windows decided it was a virus and purged them

I fucking hate windows

[quartz tendon]

press home ingame, change values Peak Brightness to your screen max (e.g 1000) and paper white (e.g 200) - first time skip tutorial and change to the RenoDX tab to change values 🙂 Advanced tab allows you to change other things if you want.

[daring orbit]

I feel like i can barely do rr with 1440 uw and a 4080

[robust drum]

Are you using the FG in the game?

[daring orbit]

Yeah

[remote mountain]

Laughs in wooting60, guess I'll remap some key to home or smth

[viscid wedge]

You're about the 100th person to say this today. Welcome to antivirus when there is a popular file floating around.

[daring orbit]

I debate using fg im getting around 60

[robust drum]

Have you tried turning it off? On my 4070 i find that the FG in game is pretty busted

[daring orbit]

Ive tried it both ways, i got it to 45fps, and it seems ok

45x2

[remote mountain]

If there's anything recommended to change in the advanced tab that doesn't make this game into a blurry mess with tree's/bushes spasming and the shadows on the ground flickering, lmk. Thanks for the guide btw

[plain fractal]

Btw which version of the nvidia driver are most people using here? I am still on 591.86 because of problems in some games (Arknights enfield is unplayable on vulkan on the newest driver for example).
Are there any performance benefits for this game in the latest one? (Could also be the source of my problem)

[daring orbit]

I made a custom upscaling ratio of 1.85

[quartz tendon]

Do this too, seems many are having issues that Defender tries to erase the .addon file. Under Virus & threat protection settings, manage settings, last part is Exclusions add or remove

[robust drum]

I updated to the newest driver. I havent tested my other games on it. Kinda scared to

[remote mountain]

Thx

[plain fractal]

Yeah, I also just added the whole game folder. No Problems after that

[quartz tendon]

They are working on fixing a bunch of stuff atm... I don't know how much magic they are going to be able to fix, but a LOT has been addressed in this chat. All waiting for the next .addon file and we will see what they are cooking 🙂

[quartz tendon]

dk if it is this driver, but if i want to use DLAA, I get a black flickering bar on top of the game.

[remote mountain]

I assume the addon is working, seems good?

Regarding HDR, using a AW2725DF OLED with "DisplayHDR True Black" enabled. Googling around I am not sure if it's at 400 nits or 1000 nits.

[robust drum]

Which resolution for uw?

[daring orbit]

3440×1440

[quartz tendon]

True black is 400 peak brightness if i remember correctly. If you'd change to another mode it should be 1000. correct me if i'm wrong (you can also stand outside, look at the clouds and sun and slide and see)

[faint bobcat]

yes working on it now

it had auto white balance

as well

builkt in

[plain fractal]

Yes, I have the same problem

[faint bobcat]

hue shfits everything constantly

[quartz tendon]

press on RenoDX for this

[faint bobcat]

^

[faint bobcat]

^

[remote mountain]

Been messing around with this. Nothing is changing ingame. Does it only apply when I press home again or is something cooked?

[robust drum]

Interesting. Im using my 4070 at 1440p with mostly cinematic settings besides a few tweaks. RR on, dlss balanced and when I disabled FG in game I get some pretty great frame rates now.

[daring orbit]

Must be my cpu

[viscid wedge]

2560x1440 and 3440x1440 are not going to be the same performance wise

[remote mountain]

Also is the RenoDX supposed to tank the FPS? Stuck at 35 fps from like 200+ now after.

[viscid wedge]

No

[daring orbit]

No way

[viscid wedge]

Sounds like RR 🤣

[remote mountain]

RR?

[daring orbit]

Holy cow lol

You arent kidding

Oh this us so much better, there wasnt an update was there?

[quartz tendon]

hmm seems like it should be running. It looks to me that you have installed Reshade with addon on the right exe and also put the .addon file at the right place. Have you enabled HDR in the game settings menu? Ray Reconstruction is RR btw.

[remote mountain]

Don't have RR since I have a 9070xt

[ruby tusk]

RenoDX is very light, and mainly on CPU

[viscid wedge]

my CPU (7800x3D) is basically at idle in this game. Unlike most UE5 titles lmao

[ruby tusk]

Yeah same for my 9800X3D

Barely used

[mortal wolf]

Probably some amd shader cache or something. Nvidia forces shader recomp with RenoDX on first boot. No idea what AMD does

[remote mountain]

Delete shaders angle?

Or what we thinking

[viscid wedge]

I feel like thats the first 9070xt to show up in here

[jade flame]

Someone said that they got DLSS custom ratio working with Optiscaler.
I just get a black screen when I try to use it...

[gentle geode]

where is download file for reno?

[ruby tusk]

Pins

[remote mountain]

Ye I regret this dogshit ass gpu. Going to RMA it when possible for a 5070 TI. Keeps crashing due to hardware issues according to Event Viewer and a lot of troubleshooting. Despite its value, first and last time I am using AMD for their GPU's.

[ruby tusk]

Nice to see more and more people sharing this video, even in other discords I’m in

Very informative video

[robust drum]

Yes obviously but 45 fps seems extra low for little that bump in resolution.

[daring orbit]

All i know is without fg im getting 70+ now

[robust drum]

nice

[remote mountain]

Deleted shaders, will see fps diff now mb

[faint bobcat]

so I found their AdaptExposure shader that uses previous frame data

BRUH

1.35x overshoot

for bright parts

Pearl loves their blown out look soo much

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

time to fix now

[mortal wolf]

If when you first booted RenoDX you didn't get a shader recompilation, I'd suspect it's that

[remote mountain]

Did not have any performance monitor on first time I ran this game without any reshade/renodx etc. What's the cleanest way to completely remove Renodx/reshade so I can verify what it was before?

[vivid iris]

Rename dxgi.dll to something else

Then rename back to bring it back

[quartz tendon]

.old for example

[remote mountain]

We talking about the same file here?

[vivid iris]

No

Dxgi.dll is reshade so renaming that undoes it all

[cloud sonnet]

Games seem to prompt this hit or miss when I update renodx file. Is it generally good practice to delete the game's shader cache each time I updated the renodx version?

[vivid iris]

It’s safe yeah but depending on how good the precomp step is it maybe shouldn’t always be done

[faint bobcat]

they use Sky visibility voxel to determin if a scene is indoors/outdoors then crank the shit out of it

[vivid iris]

When forge drops his additions to this you’ll definitely need to recompile

[faint bobcat]

I have 50 new shaders in

so yes

[ruby tusk]

Can’t wait

W Forge

[faint bobcat]

I only use RR and max settings

so if theres new shader perms

I am not working on those

if graphics stuff doesnt work for other users

[ruby tusk]

I use the same

[faint bobcat]

colour based shaders should work regardless

[lime bridge]

Interiors looks horrible without RR, feel like it isn't much of a choice if you care about consistency regardless of performance

[crude marsh]

is that why the blown out flat blue x 100 happens

[faint bobcat]

I think thats just them using an aggressive white balance correction

anything even remotely yellowish gets nuked to blue

[ruby tusk]

If its bright, make it white

[faint bobcat]

yh

white or blue

[frosty fulcrum]

Do you have in game HDR on?

[faint bobcat]

no other colours exist

[ruby tusk]

Haha

[faint bobcat]

or pink

[remote mountain]

9800x3d, 9070xt. No reshade. 110 fps. Thought this game had good optimization?

Something is cooked no?

[digital quest]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[remote mountain]

Not sure, deleted reshade for the moment to check default fps if something was lowering my fps

[quasi acorn]

can anyone help me i did all the windows defender stuff but no matter what i try it shows this

[remote mountain]

And yes I have RR on, people said it's worth keeping it on

nvm I don't even have it lmfao. 40 fps with amd RR on

[stray grove]

@remote mountain RR on there is your answer

[deft pulsar]

sucks so bad I can't enable that on my 7900XT

[remote mountain]

RR was off with 110 fps

With RR im on 40 fps

[deft pulsar]

I hate amd for locking these features behind RDNA4

[frosty fulcrum]

Sounds right. Use FG if you need to

[stray grove]

@remote mountain sound about right i gotta use dlss quality and FG for RR

5070ti

[crude marsh]

this game absolutely does not have good optimization unless you consider using minimum possible visuals across the board optimization

[deft pulsar]

also really poor LOD and disastrous pop in

[remote mountain]

If I use FG I'll prob die irl idk

[distant prairie]

The second shadow cascade being like 512x512 isn't optimization

[ruby tusk]

And them clouds are so bad

[crude marsh]

5m distance for first cascade or something like that

[frosty fulcrum]

Welcome to modern gaming FG is pretty much a requirement these days

[stone comet]

just trying to do a puzzle while being blinded no biggie

[lament nymph]

the dev advertise good optimizations

[deft pulsar]

lmao

[lament nymph]

u saying they been lying all along for sales?

[stone comet]

like this place was especially bad LOL

[deft pulsar]

for me honestly the game looks good in the sense with the third person camera they nailed that high quality texture look, though if you look upclose they are sub par

the main issue is definitely visual noise and LOD

reflections are also really poor with RT

[stone comet]

yeah i honestly dont mind the look even if it has a few issues

[distant prairie]

The biggest thing that I can't stand is the boiling paralax maps

[deft pulsar]

this game definitely could have used a 4k texture pack

[deft pulsar]

I got used to that pretty quickly luckily

[faint bobcat]

[stone comet]

LOOOL

[deft pulsar]

LMAO aint no way

[stone comet]

genuinely insane

[deft pulsar]

i fucking love using 1/4 of my VRAM

also 13ms gpu is crazy

[lament nymph]

this is what good graphics look like these days

see those blocky shadows on the right and the rays on the dude

that's a lot of graphics

[stone comet]

is that RR off

[lament nymph]

RR on always

[stray grove]

@lament nymph i had to get out of that room asap when i saw those shadow ahaha