Crimson Desert - CHECK PINS FOR ADDON

[jade flame]

There is a bug with HDR + DLAA

[naive terrace]

yeah this has to bee a bug that turn off RR

mmm interesting

[jade flame]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/41LYLiLkC7M

[barren pasture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki3DRx3VQQs
here you can see it

[wise flax]

@hidden ivy Allot of people if not all people using HDR & DLAA eventually have a squiggly black bar across the top of the screen.

[tame vault]

I had to turn FG on to see the bug

[true dagger]

how tf is this even runnable on DLAA, on lower res?

[wise flax]

I can get the bar to disappear for short periods by changing settings but it always comes back

[jade flame]

That's not all. Do the blade flash ability and 2/3 of the screen goes black.

[barren pasture]

4k?

[ocean onyx]

Runs fine without RR since the rendering is so compromised

[viscid wedge]

one of them mentioned 1440p and Framegen

[naive terrace]

yeah I use the ASUS QD-OLED PG32UCDM 4K 240hz

[tame vault]

It's one of the weirdest bugs I've ever seen

[hidden ivy]

Hmm, I have played 16h now and it never happened. I wonder why

[barren pasture]

maybe its a resolution dependant bug 😄

[true dagger]

i mean without RR i understand, i meant with RR :D

[ocean onyx]

With RR a 5090 can do 4k dlaa at 30 fps I guess

[wise flax]

Yeah it’s unfortunate because DLSS is dogshit in this game and DLAA looks much better.

[barren pasture]

DLSS is not dogshit. The game is

[wise flax]

I can’t do 30fps anymore without motion sickness…

[tame vault]

I can't do 60

[wise flax]

Their DLSS implementation is dogshit, not DLSS in general.

@tame vault I can do 60 native if I use framegen.

[barren pasture]

whole technical aspect is dogshit!

[tame vault]

Oh yeah, same

[ruby tusk]

yeah with DLAA+RR with FG ON 2x, get like 65 fps

[tame vault]

This is an interesting game in that becames the movement is so heavy, latency matters less. It feels laggy anyway but it's just about ok

[unique sluice]

Do you guys use HDR games on your TV? And are you using HDR 10 in Crimson Desert?

[barren pasture]

i did not find movement heavy, idk what are you all talking about

its not RDR2 type heavy

[tame vault]

Err...

It is

[ocean onyx]

It most certainly is

[tame vault]

Dude takes like 3 days to turn around

[ocean onyx]

They just blatantly copied r* movement stuff

[viscid wedge]

I play every game in HDR and have for the last 3 years. LG C2 on my desk.

[wise flax]

Yeah the combat isn’t super tight like something like Nioh 3 which I just played.

[ruby tusk]

basically like Witcher 3 janky/heavy

imo

[barren pasture]

this i agree

[true dagger]

i maxed the controller look acceleration to 100, feels okay-ish but they def gotta change the controls feel

[barren pasture]

but i mean, its not like rdr2

[tame vault]

I honestly think it feels just like rdr2

[faint bobcat]

Pearl Abyss's eye adapation is shit

[wise flax]

I hate that lock on is down on the D-pad and not right stick click…

[tame vault]

Every action is very deliberate

[faint bobcat]

it both over exposes and underexposes

[tame vault]

Worst thing in game for me

[scarlet fable]

Where i can download the mod?

[barren pasture]

rip that out pls 😄

[unique sluice]

I know, I wanted to know if you have the HDR GAME setting enabled on your TV.

[tame vault]

Hah no way, I didn't know there was lock on

I'm gonna need more than 2 back paddles...

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[viscid wedge]

I mean, i'm in game mode and in HDR so I guess so? Setup for your specific TV will be different.

[barren pasture]

lol i also tried right stick, it didnt work, i thought there is no lockon

[scarlet fable]

Where i can download the mod?

[tame vault]

Oh you just loaded into the game? Nice

[naive terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[wise flax]

To find controller layout you have to go to like tutorials or some such bs because it’s not under settings…

[analog parrot]

The nights are almost as bright as the days, I'd have preferred actual dark nights

[tame vault]

Hmm nights are dark for me

But my eyes are probably fucked from the flash bang every time game loads

[scarlet fable]

Sorry where i can download the mod?

[tame vault]

It's savage

[tame vault]

Pinned comment

[analog parrot]

I don't know if you can, but could you take a screenshot of the night sky?

[tame vault]

We need to pin a comment that says to download from the pinned comment

[scarlet fable]

Thank u bro

[tame vault]

Sorry in bed now.

[viscid wedge]

Just after midnight

[tame vault]

Maybe the night sky itself isn't dark, but ground level is

[analog parrot]

See? It's practically day

[barren pasture]

oh yea, thats miserable

[viscid wedge]

they're right though, depends on where you're looking

[barren pasture]

how vanilla looks?

[chrome sun]

Most games are like that

[viscid wedge]

and if its overcast or not. the moon is pretty bright though

[tame vault]

Yeah you're right. I guess I haven't been looking at the sky

[analog parrot]

I hate that, what's the point of torches and lanterns then

[scarlet fable]

How I install the MOD?? Putting it in bin64 folder?

[unkempt forge]

Where can I download RenoDX for Crimson Desert?

[analog parrot]

Dragon's dogma had the perfect nights

[scarlet fable]

Pinned comment

[hidden ivy]

Didn't the previews show completely dark nights?

[tawny ravine]

Ya pitch black rainy nights

[tame vault]

Yes but you also need the Add-on version of reshade

[fresh field]

or you can just download and install the RenoDX Commander and it does it all for you

[worn ibex]

You gotta be kidding me

[analog parrot]

Yes, they must have changed something with the ypdate

[scarlet fable]

I have Reshade installed, that's what you mead right?

[tame vault]

Yes as long as it's the Add-on version

[tame vault]

That supports loading addons

[scarlet fable]

perfect thankyou broo

[tame vault]

Press home, you should see RenoDX tab at end

[viscid wedge]

tried this on day one, game wouldn't launch. uninstalled it. Manually installed reshade and Reno and boom, works perfectly.

[tame vault]

If so, it's working

[hidden ivy]

Did you install display commander as well? CD doesn't work with DC 😄

[chrome sun]

I have DC working

[crude marsh]

@wispy crown I am going to scream, LG switch app crashes whenever my monitor USB is connected

[fresh smelt]

how

[tame vault]

So do I. Slightly older build

[fresh smelt]

oh, can you dm me it

[naive terrace]

pin on top

[tame vault]

Sorry not by pc now, will absolutely do it in the morning if you still need it

[chrome sun]

Because devs thinks players don't want to get lost or getting frustrated because you can't see a thing.
I would prefer real dark night too

[fresh smelt]

yeah man that would be appreciated

[tame vault]

It's super stable, works with like last 5 new games I've played

Just finished RE9, frame limiter works great

[severe sphinx]

which reshade effects should I install

[true dagger]

u dont rly need any, the only ones i always get are lilium's hdr shaders but u dont rly need those

[tame vault]

Yup, reshade is just being used as a means to hook into the addon

[faint bobcat]

@wheat elk

EON / Burley

wait

wrong way around

[wheat elk]

lol

[faint bobcat]

gets rid of the random black darkening here

in burley

but then gives the edges better shading

[zenith plank]

I can't get the steam overlay to show up? Is it just me?

[wheat elk]

burley does look a little overcooked on the brick work on the ground

[lucid thorn]

I attempted to skim through the stuff today. Looks like you guys found some stuff 👀

[mortal wolf]

@faint bobcat are we done with decomp? i can rest now?

[faint bobcat]

@mortal wolf they do AWB, I dunno how common that is

[faint bobcat]

I tested it seems to work, however auto exposure / histogram shader blows up

it decompiled

but I got this

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[mortal wolf]

send cso

[faint bobcat]

I can solve on my end I think

[mortal wolf]

but posterity

[lucid thorn]

I get that every time I boot the game

[mortal wolf]

hmm, i thought i fixed the ByteAddressBuffer it was doing

[sleek veldt]

Rain seems better

[faint bobcat]

shader decomps but it just blows up instantly to white

[mortal wolf]

some zext

https://tenor.com/view/research-lab-coat-gif-26671156

[worn ibex]

New patch?

[foggy cove]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[mortal wolf]

umax

[sleek veldt]

I guess something happened at 10:53 PM yesterday

Oh nah

nvm

4:56

Still something happened

[worn ibex]

Am? PM? Timestamp?

[sleek veldt]

lemme check again

nvm im fried it was 10:56PM

Yesterdayu

It worked whatever they did

[true dagger]

do i genuinly have to open my inventory anytime i gotta heal during a fight? i must have missed something right

[languid sleet]

was wondering this too....

[sly vigil]

so...does the slider for CA and Sharpening work if you're using this whilst in SDR?

[gleaming marlin]

no. food is right directional button if you have it

[tame vault]

Hold right d pad then add healing items to quick select, which is just right dpad

[vivid iris]

Yes

[sly vigil]

Thanks Kickfister!

[true dagger]

damn thanks lmao !

[sly vigil]

F3 on kb&m btw

[tame vault]

The in-game knowledge base is actually good and comprehensive

[sly vigil]

yeah if only the game didnt automatically use keys when you walk into locked doors

[crude marsh]

mouse is actually usable with 100% "acceleration" which is nice

[modern bronze]

What's the difference between vanilla and perceptual for the film grain type?

Are there any settings I should be aware of?

[true dagger]

perceptual is shortfuse's filmgrain i think

[sly vigil]

Man dlss is really borked in this. RR looks great for RTGI but its so blurry

[wispy crown]

Yeah same for me actually. I did it via my Macbook. Windows App doesn't work.

[wispy crown]

There wasn't any patch. Something on your end must've changed.

[crude marsh]

OnScreen control app worked

though it doesn't officially tell you it supports this monitor

[wispy crown]

Oh shit good to know

[crude marsh]

RCAS

helps

[glad vessel]

Thank god for the sharpness slider. For some reason using the INT8 version of FSR4 cranked up the sharpness like crazy. This saved my eyes

[mortal wolf]

just clean up now. trying to get the global names in, so it's clear what they are

[wispy crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-gif-22344136

[fresh sparrow]

Surprising there hasn't been a mod on nexus or something to increase the despawn timer on corpses, or adjust the camera height etc

The enemy density combined with fast despawn is just wild, you can never loot anything

[wispy crown]

Game was released 2 days ago on a completely new engine. How on earth are they supposed to mod that so fast?

[mortal wolf]

uh, might not be flattened

[lament nymph]

I've never seen a game where a bow and arrow is more worthless

[fresh sparrow]

Haven't a clue. I'm not a developer and know nothing of the circumstance around the engine, was just thinking out loud！🫠

[mortal wolf]

flattened

[faint bobcat]

ACES V3 be like

[wispy crown]

https://youtu.be/rwAiKtZmqX8

Didn't know Preset E can reduce shadow flicker?

[neon whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gameboyluke-obliterate

[mortal wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-simpson-grampa-simpson-old-man-going-in-gif-17818438

back to the lab

[tender hawk]

Hey guys, Im a bit new to this, do we put the pinned file directly into the bin64 folder or into the reshade presets?

[wispy crown]

Directly in the bin64 folder

Then activate HDR in game and you should be good to go

[tender hawk]

Okay, thank you!!

[low crane]

wtf is this

https://klipy.com/gifs/james-franco-the-interiew

[crude marsh]

meirl

its over

[wheat elk]

lmfao

[faint bobcat]

HODL

[cloud plover]

Hi, anyone else getting funky particle effects that's super pixellated (looks like 480p or worse) this includes the targeting circle for the lantern as well as fire effects.

Also pardon the screenshots, couldn't get it to play nice with HDR

Edit: Settings

1440p DLSS 4.0 Performance

[crude marsh]

past like 6 hours trying to change anything about LODs

[faint bobcat]

Vanilla Burley / EON plus some other stuff

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[crude marsh]

thats called optimization

[stone comet]

primetime to get used to it

[cloud plover]

Ohhh okay so that's a universal thing I guess. Thought I was doing something wrong and it was driving me nuts. Hopefully they fix that lol, thanks guys you're a godsend for HDR enjoyers

[faint bobcat]

@wheat elk once I add LMS

its like looking through a window

[mortal wolf]

we got birds! let's go!

[naive terrace]

ohh shiit shadows fix soon? damn looks amazing

[faint bobcat]

This is BRDF

[crude marsh]

that doesn't sound very important

[faint bobcat]

welll I have their point lights decompiled now

[dapper orchid]

i am confused oin where the download is

[mortal wolf]

BFD BRDF

[faint bobcat]

so I can look into wtf is causing flickering

[crude marsh]

the pins

[summer notch]

#1469072401450012774 message

(pinned)

[stone comet]

looks way nicer when you cant see to the absolute ends of the world without any fog

[jade spruce]

so you can finally fix them being fucking red?

[faint bobcat]

yh

I am thinking of running hue correction

just on the lighting

[jade spruce]

all hail the froge

[midnight blade]

I wish it was, RR is destroying my fps

[faint bobcat]

adding slider for the lens flare

and fixing auto exposure

once we have usable decomp

instead of nuclear bomb

[jade spruce]

who needs AI to cure cancer when we have forge fixing eyecancer

[crude marsh]

can we make the lights like, idk 5x less diffuse

its absolutely comical looking at the town at night

[jade spruce]

you mean their range?

[naive terrace]

tf

[crude marsh]

more or less yeah

[jade spruce]

they do look like they have some comical falloff function

[crude marsh]

the lights are.... very questionably implemented

[jade spruce]

the vertices are trying to escape

just let them out

[crude marsh]

time to clear shaders

[worn ibex]

OwO whats this

[wheat elk]

LMS brdf??? 👀

[viscid wedge]

I need a 5090. 4090 isn't cutting it. only major difference we're running differently is you can run Quality, I have to run Performance.

[lament nymph]

"need"?

go git one

[stone comet]

Im running quality with RR and FG on a 4090 it's fine

[lament nymph]

there's no delaying your need

[cerulean geyser]

what's the third server?

[naive terrace]

I sold my 4090 for 2000, and for 300 more I got the 5090

[lament nymph]

I got my 5090 for free for exactly $2399

thanks nvidia for the free card

[naive terrace]

[wise flax]

I sold my 4090 too soon and ended up using like 4 different cards I had to buy and return or resell before finding a 5090 at msrp. I won't be making that mistake again thats for sure.

[lament nymph]

I got one online on launch day

didn't even have to stand in front of microcenter

[frosty fulcrum]

My 5080 is already outdated. Game looks way too soft at DLSS performance 3x MFG. But without RR the lighting looks terrible. Can't tell which I would rather deal with

[viscid wedge]

those days are past, unfortunately. I slept on that option

[wise flax]

Lucky I tried for months before Microcenter finally had a Gigabyte Windforce for $2300. It died in a week and I luckily managed to snag their last Asus Tuf 5090 for $1999.

[viscid wedge]

that $1999 TUF deal, so sad I missed out

[wise flax]

I wanted either the TUF or Founders from the start so it worked out. I actually was lucky the Gigabyte died when it did so I could get the TUF.

Literally a month after I bought it the prices skyrocketed again because of the AI bullshit.

[true dagger]

wtf are these usa deals man, 5090 in EU, i see them only for like 3k+ € since launch, rn about 3.2k€, apporx. 3.7k $

[sleek veldt]

Man where's the fireplace

[wise flax]

The prices here normalized at Microcenter for a month or 2 before skyrocketing again.

[sly vigil]

I paid a gypsy to steal a 5070ti

[true dagger]

this is why i bought a 4090 for like 1.8k€, im not paying an extra 1.2k for like 30% gains

[wise flax]

Yeah I refused to pay over $2500. I was worried I was fucked after selling my 4090, but I got lucky and found a card during that short window when they dropped to MSRP.

[mortal wolf]

@faint bobcat don't know if it's any different

[sly vigil]

whats the consensus on best preset for RR

[viscid wedge]

I have to remind myself that these brand new, broken games are the real problem. 4090 shouldn't have to render at 1080p just to hit 70fps.

[wise flax]

Yeah the 4090 is still top of the line and the second best card on the market. If a game runs poorly it's not your hardware.

[faint bobcat]

a bit better

[digital quest]

frenzy

step by step

[true dagger]

exactly the way i see it, i can run any game ive played so far anyway so im not complaining

but if there would be a deal for a 5090 for like 2.2k euros, i'd go for it why not

but def not paying 3k tbh

[wise flax]

Nah not worth it at that price. I only sold my 4090 because I thought I'd find an MSRP 5090. It eventually worked out to where I only spent a few hundred, but I nearly screwed myself over.

[barren pasture]

this "eye adaptation" is crazy

[faint bobcat]

wait @mortal wolf

this is fine

[barren pasture]

uhm... this video does not look like it looks on the screen and in vlc

[faint bobcat]

These are the other two histogram stuff

that are griefing

[faint bobcat]

this one worky

[primal estuary]

i wish the sky was not blue during night , although as a city dweller idk if this is accurate to night sky without light pollution

[mortal wolf]

closest i got

      GlareInstanceData __struct_store_0;
      __struct_store_0._data0 = float4(_34, _35, 0.0f, _498);
      __struct_store_0._data1 = float4(_581, _582, _583, _529);
      __struct_store_0._luminance = float4(_541, _542, _543, _544);
      __struct_store_0._vertexNormal = float4(_157, _158, _159, _521);
      __3__39__0__1__g_glareInstanceUAV[_538] = __struct_store_0;

as a one shot assignment

[primal estuary]

my guess it doesnt look blue BOI

[faint bobcat]

No way

inverse mexico filter

[fresh sparrow]

fintlant filter

[faint bobcat]

worky also

[thin forge]

Boreal Desert

[faint bobcat]

its these two that are griefing now

[crude marsh]

ok how the hell do I play this game

I am on the first boss fight and clearly have no idea what I am doing

[faint bobcat]

^ like this

[crude marsh]

5 deaths, have hit the dude like 4 times lol

[true dagger]

RB RT LB and B is what i spam most

[mortal wolf]

this is how close it is: https://www.diffchecker.com/05J6kg4h/

[crude marsh]

what is B

[viscid wedge]

same, but because I can't remember any of the other "special" moves once in combat

[wispy crown]

How some people set their TV color temperature to cold50

[worn ibex]

oh wait youre acc playing

are you having fun at least?

[true dagger]

this game is funny af, first i was in some random forest where some random ass kids kept putting me to sleep, like 4 times, then i follow one of them, i find some giant enemies that survive so many attacks and insta die, atleast the area looked cool af

[true dagger]

ik RB+RT, RB+Y, i got some special weapon with some special attack too from some boss

i just wish the blocking was more responsive

holding LB but still get hit annoys me sometimes

or parrying i guess

[wise flax]

On the green skill tree you should max out the 3rd option "Keen Senses" first imo. It gives perfect dodge and the ability to attack at the same time as an enemy to avoid damage.

[final imp]

U need to combo with r3 to stun longer and get more hits. At least that’s what I needed to do to kill him

[true dagger]

great tip ty, i havent read all the skills yet so saves some time

[true dagger]

the first boss? im on chapter 3 rn i havent died to a boss yet, i accidentally went to some next lvl area probably xd

[final imp]

lol I ran into some stuff that was just annihilating me

Fun game

[thin forge]

I realized the town has a bunch of merchange-related short side-content that gives you decent rewards if you don't want to go straight fighting from boss to boss.

[crude marsh]

what the hell do you mean you haven't died to a boss

I have died at least 10 times on the first boss in the past 5 minutes

and have done at most 20% damage

[true dagger]

which boss do you mean cuz i forget

[barren pasture]

you know game is good when players have very different experience

[wise flax]

Also put a point into the first skill on the blue tree "Armed Combat". It allows you to use RB+B to strike and dodge at the same time with sword. With spear it does this thing where it holds a block and if someone attacks while you use it you counter for massive damage without taking damage.

[thin forge]

The game hides a lot of the controls in a submenu of 'others'

[mortal wolf]

i'm only seeing a lack of zext in the original, and some fast < comparisons (skip NaN check)

[crude marsh]

granted I have never played a game with this combat before

[thin forge]

it's a weird combat system

[crude marsh]

hornsplitter

[true dagger]

me neither honestly, i did play BDO for like 60 hours but that was like 5 years ago and on M&K

[true dagger]

ohhh that one, i just beat him like an hour ago first try

[crude marsh]

I die in like 3 seconds and there is no heal in this game

[wise flax]

Yeah coming over from Nioh 3 the combat seems unpolished and honestly super easy...

[true dagger]

the tip that one guy gave me above to bind the healing items to the quick access helped me

[barren pasture]

its also funny if you hold RB then Kliff autoattacks 😄 like in some MMO

[daring orbit]

food heals

[stone comet]

your food is your heal

and you can make a shit ton

[thin forge]

yeah the big things are "hold the attack button" once you have an opening, sometimes kliff combos the enemy immediately

[true dagger]

hold right on the d pad, and selec the bottom one in the middle

[wise flax]

You can also pause mid fight to pick which specific food items

[daring orbit]

and eat it instantly

[true dagger]

ye ive been cooking to have heals

[crude marsh]

ye I tried to do that but he never eats the food lol

the controls are throwing me man

[thin forge]

when you come out of the menu, tap the right arrow to heal

[wise flax]

You hold right on d pad to select food. Then you just tap right on d pad to eat it.

[stone comet]

its just one button click on keyboard at least it got a quickbind

[thin forge]

it's.. not intuitive

[wise flax]

Yeah the controls are dogshit

[crude marsh]

ok this makes much more sense

[thin forge]

it's weird because I really liked BDO's combat

with the motion system

[crude marsh]

is this fight literally just parry, smack a couple times, repeat

[wise flax]

@crude marsh Don't worry I couldn't figure out how to eat for a bit either. I was pausing every time and going into my inventory...

[thin forge]

yeah, once you get the perfect parry

I think it's odd that the base mechanics have to be bought

or observed

[crude marsh]

not sure why but I was expecting something.... idk different for fighting bosses

given how fighting random dudes is

[wise flax]

So many controls are so bad. Not having a hotkey for the map for example sucks and is super annoying. I hate having to scroll throught he menu every time I need to check the map...

BTW for a controller button layout you have to go to the menu, then others and then guides. It's not in the options area of the settings for whatever reason...

[crude marsh]

can you only parry with a shield

[viscid wedge]

its a little faster if you hold Esc/Start and at least go to the correct primary menu first

[mortal wolf]

@faint bobcat relaxed nan check

[viscid wedge]

I can perfect parry with a greatsword

[wispy crown]

I mean yeah it could be better like in RDR2 but it's 2 buttons... It's not that hard.

[crude marsh]

aight, I usually hate shields so thats nice

[wise flax]

I believe perfect parry works with every weapon. Also under skills you can press a button to go to other weapons to check the skills for those weapons.

Unfortunately some of the skills still only show the animations with sword/shield so idk...

[stone comet]

perfect parry works with anything yeah

done it with two handers and dual wield

[wise flax]

Has anyone found the way to consistently go down ladders? Half the time I just fall off....

[true dagger]

i gave up on that xD i legit either climb down the wall behind it or fall, idk how tf i attach to them from the top

[wise flax]

lol yeah I've just been jumping and using the fly before I get to the bottom...

[stone comet]

double jump + 3x force palm will let you skip a shit ton

[thin forge]

I still don't get how to get the silly slapper to propel me, I think I bought the ability?

[wise flax]

I didn't even realize that existed until just now. I'm still fairly early on. I really need to go through the skills more.

You can also sling yourself with the axiom force grab thing.

[true dagger]

i found these banger boots that passively heal me out of combat, nicely saves healing items lol

[low crane]

I like how you can literally slap the shit out of your horse to heal him.

[thin forge]

not being able to fast travel because a) wrong layer of map and also b) wrong page of map types 😵‍💫

[stone comet]

wdym you can fast travel from anywhere

[lucid thorn]

I like to fly until I run outta stamina then spam the jump button hoping I got something back before I hit the ground

[green zinc]

anyone notice how in a bunch of the sidequest they talk to your character, they dont responded and then the npc carries on with the conversation like your character gave some line you cant hear. its so weird.

[wise flax]

Is there not a way to reset individual skills? Like I have to reset all or nothing??

[stone comet]

yerrrrp

[viscid wedge]

i'm going to have to google how fast travel works. I did some dream world level where supposedly one was unlocked but I didn't understand any of it.

[lucid thorn]

you also only get the abyss things back

[viscid wedge]

all this riding around is annoying as hell

[golden scaffold]

The issue with vanilla film grain is it raises blacks. But Shortfuse said "what if someone likes film grain or wants to keep developers intent, so let's try to make a filmgrain that's HDR compatible and doesn't raise black levels" - it basically that. HDR compatible filmgrain, there's no reason to use vanilla. It was originally developed for starfield because the issue there was really bad iirc

[wise flax]

@lucid thorn What do you mean?

[true dagger]

you find the abyss thingy, and just stand on it, it activates by doing that

and then u can fast travel

[viscid wedge]

yeah, its that first part thats I have no idea how to do until I read about it, i think

[crude marsh]

why do I constantly get hit when blocking and then my dude puts his shield away and continues to get hit

[lucid thorn]

I haven't actually checked, but I heard someone mention at some point certain levels (maybe its just the health/stamina/spirit?) require abyss and an item, or something

[lucid thorn]

what if hes into that

[true dagger]

i think theyre easier to find by using LB+RB, the light with ur sword

[lucid thorn]

oh lazorr, got a technical question for you; I saw this in the DF interview, would this be a net positive? (you know, performance iaside)

We also have a ray tracing-based directional light shadow implementation but it's not shipped for several reasons such as high demand for ray tracing budget and missing animated tree updates. We may consider including ray-traced direction light shadows in a future update.

[viscid wedge]

so just stand.. anywhere? and do that?

[wise flax]

I'm trying to get the first skill in red tree to work. I put 2 points in so I could do the jump sling thing, but it just doesn't work....

[true dagger]

i think they will reflect light, so youll see a dot, and its some sort of point of interest where u can def do something

[lament nymph]

I'ven ever seen a person react so violently upon touching a waterfall before

like what kind of waterfall knocking you 5m back

[golden scaffold]

They promised a patch focused on improving controls. The worst one for me is jump button same as looting. I can't believe how that got past QA. It's the most annoying thing ever

[stone comet]

theres also little totems where you pick up an abyss artifact and those act as a teleport points as well

[wise flax]

Ah so apparently the 2 skill things on the red tree first point doesn't work. Don't waste points on "Aerial Maneuver or Aerial Swing". They're just flat out broken...

[lucid thorn]

are you on mouse and keyboard and did you rebind?

[wise flax]

Me?

[lucid thorn]

yeah

[wise flax]

I'm on controller. I googled it and tons of posts report that skill as being broken...

[lucid thorn]

I thought I saw someone in the CD discord mention that, that breaks certain skills if you do them on m&k but I never tested it.

gotcha

[golden scaffold]

Lmao brings back BDO memories

[stone comet]

works on keyboard so rip LMAO

[wise flax]

Wait really? let me try that myself

[stone comet]

you need a shit ton of stamina tho

[true dagger]

lmao i just bought the first one oops

doesnt work tho cuz it says not enough stamina, either a bug or i just dont have enough max stamina?

[wise flax]

It doesn't work on keyboard either what are you talking about

[stone comet]

it uses up all of this instantly, that's 4 levels

[crude marsh]

I think I am clicking left stick and putting my weapon/shield away mid fight lol

[wise flax]

Oh so maybe you need like a shitload of stamina to use it then? That's silly that you can unlock it without the ability to actually use it.

Also you have to spend the broken abyss things to reset skill points and I only have 2...

[true dagger]

it does says "Uses 200 Stamina" but how tf am i supposed to know how much i got exactly

[stone comet]

lvl 4 out of 14

[wise flax]

Yeah I can't find my stats...

[true dagger]

ye ik now, ill upgrade it 1 more time next time so i can use it

[low crane]

Is it supposed to look like this? looks kinda blown out, no?

[wise flax]

It really feels like some of these systems are half baked because there are soooo many systems in the game. It's like they added a bit of everything, but refined nothing.

[stone comet]

the axiom swing works by you jumping up first then pressing the other button, not all at once

the boost thing is just double tap jump

[wise flax]

The issue is I don't have enough stamina to use it

I also don't know how to check stats

[stone comet]

its right in your inventory

[lament nymph]

the bandits in this game are more numerous than colm o driscoll gang

[wise flax]

Thank you just found it

[true dagger]

oh ye it is in inventory lol

[stone comet]

funny thing is because the swing uses up your entire stamina you kinda just stop swinging as soon as youre up 😭

[wise flax]

Another question. If I spend a point on a skill, but then observe it can I take the skill point out? I don't want to waste skill points if I'm going to learn it for free...

[true dagger]

u cant learn a skill thats only learnable by observing

[wise flax]

Basically all of them say "Or observe this skill in action to learn it." Even the skills that you can learn with a point.

[true dagger]

if thats what u mean

[stone comet]

nah you dont get anything back, since it's basically linked to the primarys skill level isntead of choosing the learnable ones

[glass axle]

Yeah couldnt use it before getting 4 in stamina

[wise flax]

Ok so I should probably just spend points leveling up skills instead of learning new ones as I can probably learn some of the skills I have 0 points in by observing.

[glass axle]

its worth it make exploration smoother

[viscid wedge]

yeah i'm stupid. I'm using a third party map to find the first one somewhere near the falls by that big bridge at the start of the game. Somewhere around here. I keep doing the sword/light thing but I still don't know what i'm looking for. Hopefully this makes more sense at some point

[wise flax]

Yeah I think for now I'm going to put most of my points in leveling stamin and other stats. I can always respec, and I don't want to waste points on things I can observe for free...

[stone comet]

its not been an issue tbh

[crude marsh]

ok yeah realistically this fight isn't very hard

[true dagger]

this one? its like down under the bridge there

[crude marsh]

its just not how I was expecting to fight

[stone comet]

i imagine it says observe but you probably only observe it much later in the game

[true dagger]

maybe if ur only literally at the start of the game u cant activate them yet? idk i remember finding the one in town first

[viscid wedge]

i'm in chapter 2, the game just did a piss poor job of guiding you towards this in the world. They did a crappy explainer in that Abyss realm but that was it

[stone comet]

you prob need to go through the first abyss puzzle where you get your glide

[viscid wedge]

so I had no idea what to look for once back in the world

[lament nymph]

I just personally slain 400 ppl to liberate a fort ... is this how the game is supposed to be like

[true dagger]

yea i mean i usually just find them on accident riding around

[viscid wedge]

added to the list of half baked systems

[lament nymph]

cause that's a lot of ppl and t ime wasting

[stone comet]

your lantern lights them up as well

can always go up to a high point and just lantern shit up

[viscid wedge]

from where? how close?

[stone comet]

from far af

[true dagger]

ye that too

youll see like white-ish dots

[stone comet]

You can drop out of the abyss puzzle teleport and just pull out a lantern while gliding

but it also lights up potential abyss artifacts + abyss challenge artifacts

[viscid wedge]

I guess i'm just blind. i'm near that bridge area trying to find this first one. I just don't knwo what to look for. Its midday, does this only work at night?

[wise flax]

OMG I highly recommend putting at least 2-3 points into stamina. It makes such a massive difference for everything including basic traversal speed.

[stone comet]

it works at day too it glows gold

[true dagger]

rly need the devs or modders to add an option to toggle helmet off in cutscenes or so, funny af seeing kliff talking to them like this

[crude marsh]

TIL there is a stamina skill

[stone comet]

funny thing is it sometimes toggles it off 😭

staminas mega important doe for sure

that + double jump

[wise flax]

Yeah my helm randomly flips the faceshield up, but I can't find a way to do that myself.

[stone comet]

also the faster glide + air dodge roll

[viscid wedge]

Apparently i have to be literally on top of it for this latern to do anything

[true dagger]

wtf it can do that??

[true dagger]

try the question mark on ur minimap..

[stone comet]

the idea is that you do it from far away

[wise flax]

Yeah I have no clue what triggers the faceshield flipping up or how to do that myself...

[stone comet]

not like directly on top of it 😭

[true dagger]

i think its right down here if u jump

[viscid wedge]

Sure, but I've been doing that latern thing and looking around since I got back from that first Abyss puzzle. I've never seen anything appear anywhere

[viscid wedge]

yeah, i look at it at the end of the video

[true dagger]

youll see the structure

[wise flax]

Also I recommend equipping your fishing rod if you keep accidentally shooting random arrows lol

[lament nymph]

there's also a weird ass pause everytime a npc speaks

it's like they want us to spend more time in the game

by intentionally making things not smooth

[stone comet]

the pauses are easily the weirdest part

[true dagger]

yea ive noticed them too

[stone comet]

also the korean VA is pretty chill

[true dagger]

maybe its due to the English VA? lips dont sync up a lot so maybe characters are animated for Korean VA?

[wise flax]

The voice acting in English is surprisingly good considering how bad the story itself is.

[true dagger]

i am thinking about switching to it even tho i wouldnt understand shit

[stone comet]

go for it it's pretty well done

[lament nymph]

I can't refund $70 so I'm stuck playing this game cause my $ is too precious for backlog

[stone comet]

apparently you can by complaining about unmarked AI art?

[wise flax]

Why can't you refund?

[stone comet]

since its part of steams ToS or whatever and this game wasn't marked

[cosmic zenith]

Just tell them you have a intel GPU lol

[true dagger]

sounds way better tbh, i rly dont like the accent on English

[worn ibex]

You guys weren’t kidding, RR is very blurry here

Also the first scene of the game looks very flat

[wise flax]

I thankfully got the game for free with my recent 9850x3d. Otherwise I'd probably be considering a refund. I'm having fun, but there are other much more polished games in my backlog.

[elfin hollow]

Does anyone in here actually like this game? So many negative nancies

[true dagger]

yea im enjoying it tbh

[cosmic zenith]

Nah, I like it. I'm enjoying it despite the story and visual bugs

[ruby tusk]

Same

[cosmic zenith]

Most of the complaints are kinda minor compared to the actualy gameplay being fun

[ruby tusk]

Yeah

[wise flax]

I'm having a good time. I just think it needs some updates and bug fixes. Hopefully they patch it up a ton over the next year or so.

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, I hope they fix the DLSS and someone makes an FOV mod. That would greatly improve the game imo

[lament nymph]

you kill bandits then apparently you can't take their horses becuse it's stealing

[elfin hollow]

I think it's ticking all the boxes for the hype I've had all these years

[lament nymph]

ths game has a lot of backwards game design

[stone comet]

its deffo not a horrible game, moreso average

[elfin hollow]

The bad dialogue gets funnier once you put a full helmet on

[cosmic zenith]

That's such a minor issue though, that's like saying elder scrolls and fallout are bad because of the same thing

[true dagger]

i love how it changes the voice xD it rly is funny af

[lament nymph]

this is more of a korean assassin's creed than I would like to admit

explain the metacritics

[wise flax]

I feel like there's potential for a really good game here. It just seems like they spent too much time adding a million things and not enough time making sure those things worked right and were fun to engage with.

[lament nymph]

not checkboxes bad but other kind of bad

[stone comet]

its deffo a korean type of AC especially with the recent ones lmao

it just has considerably more depth

[true dagger]

@viscid wedge this is what i mean with the lantern btw

[lament nymph]

the only reason a/c shadows sold badly is because of its politically incorrect msg of what ancient japan should be like

this game is the opposite

you can beat women

[wise flax]

Not just you can beat women. If you are doing bounties you literally have to beat women lol...

[viscid wedge]

Yeah I don't know why iv'e never seen one. Broad daylight they're really hard to see. Also this Spirit that keeps being talked about, i have food that regenerates it, the the L3+R3 thing is supposed to do that too.. but how "much" of it you have is that tracked somewhere?

[lament nymph]

besides the enemy AI, shadows is the more polished game

[lusty dome]

im assuming the reno mod pinned here is the latest one? i see size differences from the one on github

[stone comet]

just tapping the lantern flashes em

[cosmic zenith]

You're kidding right? Shadows was really just not that good. It's missions were boring and it played like every assissins creed ever

[lament nymph]

"this game rewards exploration" ... meanwhile I'm at this spot and it tells you " hey man these spots are too early for you rn, don't go exploring this far yet"

[lament nymph]

ahem ... this game has a lot MORE fetch quests than shadows will ever have

[viscid wedge]

yeah, did that drop from the sky thing once in the story. Not sure how to do it again

[lament nymph]

if anything shadows has more combat missions

[cosmic zenith]

And the combat was boring

[lament nymph]

I'm at 28 hrs

[stone comet]

once you unlock more abyss puzzles you can just teleport to a bunch of em

[lament nymph]

shadows combat is garbage

but in terms of polish, it's the better polished game out of the box

the interactions are boring, not painful

and they both have a/c type dialogue

written by AI

[cosmic zenith]

I'll take unpolished and fun over polished and boring any day

[viscid wedge]

this game is stuffed with poorly explained mechanics to a fault. AC:S was quite polished, just the gameplay loop got stale.

[lament nymph]

been that way since origins, all of them ac games put me to sleep

[cosmic zenith]

Too many mechanics too. I get that some of them are meant to be fun, but a lot of them just get ignored immediatley because their rewards are too small

Maybe mods will help flesh out and make some of the MMO styled stuff more fun though

[lament nymph]

this game is weird, I clear out a bandit's camp, liberate the region and I got nothing for it

at least ac checkboxes give u something

this game barely gives u anything

[rancid jackal]

Are the default sliders essentially the correct settings for the game right now?

[lament nymph]

complete a difficult puzzle? here's 1 skill point

also the skill points also function as weapons upgrade currency

[viscid wedge]

I've been briefly shown so many, retained about 10% of them. Just gonna keep trucking along I guess. I'm at 14 hours in and apparently just learned how fast travel works (well, still not 100%)

[lament nymph]

also the skill points are shared between characters

QoL is horrible

[lucid thorn]

are you talking about the camp where people flood back in?

[lament nymph]

[lucid thorn]

Like clear out area and screen fades and people move back in

[lament nymph]

nah random bandit camps that has a 100% meter

I clear it out and I got nothing

[lucid thorn]

ah okay

[lament nymph]

some of them do them something

just most of them don't

[lucid thorn]

If you don't clear those out, bandits will keep flooding out and taking over nearby POI's

[stone comet]

You can also inspect gear items and go down each level and it totals up the amount of materials you need + ones you got in inventory

[lament nymph]

also every time I mine something, the minerals come flying out so I have to take a few steps back to pick them up

[cosmic zenith]

You also get skill points and loot from these camps, I don't know what you want man

A medal?

[lament nymph]

every single one of these interactions could be automatic

and it owuld make the game better

[worn ibex]

???

[lament nymph]

ugh oh ... you don't get skill points from camps, you get skill points once u kill enough enemies

there's a hidden exp bar

that u don't get to see

[cosmic zenith]

And you kill loads of enemies at these camps

[lament nymph]

the ones I'm talking about has 10 enemies

the fort or the quarry or whatever

is a different story

and even then it's mostly just padding

[stone comet]

I know you unlock a dog that picks shit up for you probably will get sorted after that

[lament nymph]

least this game fulfills my fantasy of being a pig stealer

[wise flax]

Don't let the law stop you from fulfilling your dreams

[cosmic zenith]

My pockets were full of birds at one point

And I released them all in the church

It was chaos

Wish the NPCs reacted though

[ocean onyx]

what is all this game talk doing in my "Forge goes insane decompiling shaders" channel

[stone comet]

oh wait what you can unlock the pets immediately, just get their trust to 100 by feeding them shit

[lament nymph]

I imagine once u unlock flying mount the game become better

but this is a type of game that doesn't get better till 30 or 40 hrs in

which is a lot to ask

🤷‍♀️

[cosmic zenith]

Fair point, should we shitpost elsewhere?

[lament nymph]

I got the hot air baloon design I suppose I'm getting there

[ocean onyx]

no lol don't let me stop you

[lament nymph]

I had to this in 5 days to get ready for this game

so far I'm enjoying it

but it's not good

as a game I will give it 6.5/10... enjoyable tho

these purple flowers look okay ... touch them and u die

[abstract hawk]

Mans speedran that shit.

[lament nymph]

and there's no indication whatsoever that these ar e dangerous

[ocean onyx]

76 hours is crazy

[stone comet]

thats the fun of it

[wise flax]

I died to those purple flowers as well lol

[abstract hawk]

I feel like that's probably a fair score, I think when I play, I'd likely land around that, too.

It showed potential, and fun and all that. Just lots of jank, so needs that resolved.

[lament nymph]

lots of potential to be fixed

like bethesda games

[stone comet]

why would i want the flowers to be plastered in red paint that they're evil and dangerous 😭

[abstract hawk]

combat + world building is what appeals to me in here.

[abstract hawk]

That's actually a good thing, lol

I hear some people say that the game doesn't handhold you and all that and I'm like ...

"That's good?"

Like that's a pro, not a con lol.

[cosmic zenith]

lmao you played 76hrs and you're saying the game is bad?

[stone comet]

it could actually benefit from a bit more handholding

[lament nymph]

nah that was a different game that came out on the 14th

[stone comet]

cause some of the use cases are mega niche LOOL

[lament nymph]

I had to speedrun that shit

[cosmic zenith]

ooooh

[ocean onyx]

that's an insane amount of time for that short

[lament nymph]

then I get this

[cosmic zenith]

I thought you'd been playing 24hrs a day lol

[abstract hawk]

bruh

I thought that was for Crimson Desert

That's why I was like wtf.

lmao

[lament nymph]

crimson desert just came out man

I only got like 30 hrs

[ocean onyx]

"only"

[abstract hawk]

That's also pretty crazy, lmao

LMAO

[lament nymph]

so when I criticize this game, just know that it comes from a point of almost love

[wise flax]

Which game were you talking about?

[lament nymph]

monster hunter stories 3

[wise flax]

Ah

[crude marsh]

try to catch a fish challenge impossible

[wise flax]

It's not bad when you get the controls down

[lament nymph]

just swim in the water

cathc the fish yourself

the fishing rod is a trap

[wise flax]

RT to hook then use left stick in opposite direction of the fish. Once it stops swimming circle the right stick to reel it in...

[crude marsh]

the fishing line has broken due to poor control

[wise flax]

Allot of controls, but once you get them down it's doable

Don't reel unless the fish stopped moving.

If it starts moving again stop reeling

[crude marsh]

that is intuitive

[wise flax]

Just like the other controls very unintuitive and shit overall, but doable when you learn it.

[frosty fulcrum]

I'm enjoying it a lot it's very easy to get lost in

[cosmic zenith]

Yall may want to try using mouse and keyboard if you can. After I changed some of the bindings, I haven't had any issues with the controls

[crude marsh]

I thought they made a cool noise and I liked them lighting up, so I stood in them and.... immediately died

[cosmic zenith]

I do the same for monster hunter because I feel like chargeblade is nightmare on controller

[crude marsh]

yeah originally mouse was impossible until learning that 100% acceleration means more like 1:1 input

[barren pasture]

yes, there is a lot to see

[wise flax]

I hate using M&K for single player games. Competitive games like shooters I’m using M&K 100%, but in single player games I like to chill out and relax with a controller.

[frosty fulcrum]

I've gotten pretty used to the gamepad controls I don't mind them now

but they are working on it

[barren pasture]

they should have done it before releasing...

[true dagger]

pro tip, u can push some doors by holding forward..

[abstract hawk]

Pearl Abyss is working on it?

[wise flax]

What do you mean? Like locked doors?

[abstract hawk]

They were told to change this over a year ago after testing, and they didn't work on it until now ... but NOW they are working on it? lmao

[true dagger]

something like that, i was just trying to figure out a damn secret

[abstract hawk]

Amazing

[cosmic zenith]

kinda wild, all they really need is to add controller rebinding, and everything is fixed

[abstract hawk]

There's a mod for it now, I think. So, at least PC gamers can rejoice.

[jade flame]

I reported my issue with DLAA + HDR.
We'll see if it even comes up on their radar.

[cosmic zenith]

I mean, they also seem to have vibe coded DLSS and not tested it

[ocean onyx]

jensen would approve, maybe they used those $250,000 of tokens he was talking about

[crude marsh]

wish game was less locked down

[cosmic zenith]

During early access we reported a lot of little things that did get fixed before release, so maybe they'll keep up the momentum

[crude marsh]

really hard to mod

[wise flax]

DLAA+HDR should be a priority. The game looks horrible with upscaling below native, so we’re forced to use DLAA or turn upscaling off…

[cosmic zenith]

🙁

[crude marsh]

DLAA + HDR should not be a priority

making upscaling normal should be

[wise flax]

Why not both?

[frosty fulcrum]

can't imagine anyone could run DLAA unless it's like 1080p

[cosmic zenith]

I want to be able to use quality without the textures and geometry looking bad

[jade flame]

Either/or. Might even be related. Who knows.

[wise flax]

If certain graphic setting combinations literally break the game I think that’s something that should be fixed quickly.

[crude marsh]

DLAA becomes much less meaningful if upscaling works as intended

[wise flax]

Fair

[jade flame]

I get 110fps /w DLAA

[barren pasture]

i found upscaling off to be worse than dlaa

or even dlss q

[crude marsh]

not if you want lighting

[jade flame]

Fair

[cosmic zenith]

I'm getting 120fps with DLSS on a 4090 with framegen. No RR though

[jade flame]

You mean RR?

[wise flax]

DLAA runs very well comparatively when looking at the performance compared to other games.

[crude marsh]

yeah, RTGI is basically non existent without RR so

[cosmic zenith]

I'd use RR if we weren't forced to use the bad DLSS models with it

Same issue I had with RE9

[wise flax]

Unfortunately DLAA+ RR isn’t playable so yeah upscaling needs to be fixed.

[crude marsh]

well everything is already rendered at like quarter resolution with minimum LODs and no RTGI so

I hope it runs decently lol

[jade flame]

RR is kind of borked in it's own right too.
Forces Max lighting setting which on it's own has a 30 - 50% performance cost, and then the RR cost on top of that.

Need to either make Max run better or get RR to run on lower lighting settings.

[daring orbit]

you can use dlss enabler to add rtgi

[karmic void]

why do I get a suggestion of a live YouTube conversation between @mortal wolf and the guy of this emoji?

is it happening now?

[worn ibex]

refunded

it looks like absolute trash bruh

its so blurry

even with DLSS Q

[wise flax]

@crude marsh yeah that makes sense and explains why DLAA is so performant in CD compared to how it runs in other games.

[crude marsh]

RR is not really related to max lighting quality, it uses its own lighting quality

happens to say max though

[jade flame]

DLSS is borked.

[cosmic zenith]

Try DLAA

[frosty fulcrum]

Damiane feels so much better to control

[jade flame]

Either way. RR isn't this costly in other games so something isn't right.

[crude marsh]

like I said there is only really RTGI with RR

[daring orbit]

no its right

[crude marsh]

they only have enough samples and also enable restir when RR is on

[jade flame]

Not going to lie. I don't know what "restir" is.

[cosmic zenith]

Right? She feels so much faster and responsive

[karmic void]

@crude marsh are we Ultra Minusing this slop anytime soon? 🤗

[crude marsh]

so instead of it being RR, its more like RTGI on off with RR

[worn ibex]

Not with RR lmao

[crude marsh]

restir is a GI solution commonly used with pathtracing

[jade flame]

Sounds expensive. Guess that's the problem.

Honestly I'm fine with not using RR.
That said, when I go indoors.... it's a bit "oof".

[crude marsh]

their denoiser probably cant handle actually running RTGI so they just make it not really do much at all by default and then for some reason tie super max quality to RR

[cosmic zenith]

If you're using RR, all of the DLSS options are going to be blurry in ANY game

[crude marsh]

not this blurry

[cosmic zenith]

It forces the old DLSS models because Nvidia hasn't released a new one

[crude marsh]

yes but this game is exceptionally bad about it

[lament nymph]

when pearl abyss was proud to present their cutting edge custom game engine to the world ... is this what they meant

[crude marsh]

I have spent a lot of time and reverse engineered a bunch but dont really have anything tangible

[cosmic zenith]

Sure, but it's still pretty blurry in RE9 too

[jade flame]

Apparently not.
Even though it uses "Preset D" it's not DLSS Preset D.
I lost this battle earlier.

The RR Preset D IS Transformer based.

[karmic void]

Have you been able to decompile and figure out stuff?

[cosmic zenith]

It's still and older model that doesn't compare well to K, L or M

[crude marsh]

I have been able to extract, decrypt, read, and repack all of their assets but its hard to make changes work

[crude marsh]

same generation as K

[karmic void]

u have already made big progress in 24 hours

[cosmic zenith]

My bad, I assumed it was older because it looks terrible compared to K

My points still stands that its blurry

[lament nymph]

it's blurry because the game feeds it garbage

[jade flame]

It's the same generation.
But for w/e reason I DO agree that it doesn't produce as good of a reconstruction of the image as J or K. But it's also doing more than those models.

[crude marsh]

generally speaking RR is fine with RCAS

and is also the only thing capable of denoising proper RT/PT

[jade flame]

Is it? Because the issues that I was seeing appeared more as a temporal instability. Not a blur issue. idk

[crude marsh]

what you are seeing is actually having raytracing

[frosty fulcrum]

just imagine if it was UE5 though

[crude marsh]

UE5 would be so much better

[cosmic zenith]

lmao no

[lament nymph]

UE5 at least looks good even on their badly optimized titles

[worn ibex]

ue5 looks better

[lament nymph]

senua 2 was jawdropping when it dropped

[jade flame]

UE5 is a tool. It's only as good as the craftsmen.

[crude marsh]

would have better performance and visuals, granted these devs probably would bork it hard

[worn ibex]

I guarantee that witcher 4 will outclass this game and its using ue5

[viscid wedge]

Been meaning to ask about RCAS. Is there something I need to do in here for it to take effect? I can drag that sharpness slider from 0 to 1.000 and barely anything happens.

[jade flame]

We will see. It's CDPR's first Unreal game so...

[cosmic zenith]

I doubt it would run better. Even the good UE5 games have pretty rough performance imo

[crude marsh]

I get 45 fps for shit visuals on an RTX 6000

[frosty fulcrum]

same with Fable 4

[crude marsh]

UE5 would certainly perform better

[jade flame]

Also traversal stutter is still a problem even in the best UE5 games.

[lament nymph]

whatever engine ff16 ended up using, it still has the best particle effects I've ever seen in a video games

[daring orbit]

what to you mean 45fps

[lament nymph]

but even it has the problem of being too taxing on system

[crude marsh]

45 base with 2x FG

[daring orbit]

is that like 5k uw dlaa rr?

[lament nymph]

RE engine foliage is somehow a regression from their previous mt frameworks engine

[summer notch]

probably the best DOF as well

[crude marsh]

DLSS quality with RR

this game scales horribly with resolution

[daring orbit]

crazy

[frosty fulcrum]

best performing game and visually I've played recently was KCD2

[cosmic zenith]

Oh yeah KCD2 was so good

[wise flax]

My most anticipated upcoming game for mainly gameplay, but also graphics/performance is Phantom Blade Zero.

[lament nymph]

idk man kcd2 has stable visuals somewhat but it looks worse than this game and runs as it should

[daring orbit]

it looks very good, but it is pure raster

[crude marsh]

KCD2 foliage blows this game out of the water

not even close

[wise flax]

KCD2 has areas that look damn near like videos IRl.

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, KCD2 had foliage that looked like real life at times

exactly!

[crude marsh]

this game has.... "foliage"

[lament nymph]

well I will concede on the foliage

[summer notch]

kcd2 looks mostly great other than some of the sun shadows being very shimmery even with experimental settings without tweaks

[lament nymph]

re engine needs to fix their foliage, all their foliage even on their good looking titles look like shit

[amber forge]

foliage has always looked so good on cryengine and its variations

[daring orbit]

kcd2 has zero ray tracing, of anykind

[crude marsh]

and better lighting than this game

[jade flame]

Almost like they use the engine for things it was never built to do.

[cosmic zenith]

Not really though, interiors in KCD2 can look pretty flat

[wise flax]

That's one of the reasons I'm excited about Phantom Blade Zero. Supposedly they're doing allot of baked/raster lighting along with Raytracing.

[frosty fulcrum]

kcd2 I didn't even need FG

[lament nymph]

it was an upgrade from their previous mt frameworks engine

which has amazing looking foliage

which was kind of weird

[crude marsh]

so far the majority of interiors I have seen are just fucked

[tight wind]

Sorry how to download RenoDx for Crimson desert?

[crude marsh]

pins

[jade flame]

Maybe it's just the quality of the developers they have now.
No other reason why Wilds looked & ran worse than World.

[summer notch]

their max shadowcasting lights count is pretty low for interiors

[lament nymph]

ya know I'm now more hyped for that gamefreaks game than ever ...

so far the footage looks amazing

if gamefreaks can make a good looking game it's gonna be fun

[cosmic zenith]

I remember some of the cutscenes in the early game looking totally busted because of shadowcast limit

[wise flax]

I'm legitimately surprised Digital Foundry weren't more critical of this game. It makes me question their integrity tbh...

[lament nymph]

digital foundry and integrity

[jade flame]

@crude marsh Do you suggest playing CD with DLSS Q + RR + RCAS? Anything else I should set?

[lament nymph]

picks one

[daring orbit]

kcd2 also has janky animal animations

[summer notch]

they haven't had integrity for a long time

[lament nymph]

kevin was right all along, lemme reminds you

[crude marsh]

digital foundry said SHf was the best looking game of last year so

[summer notch]

(one of) but it didn't belong on that list

[frosty fulcrum]

whats the next big open world game?

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, I never really trusted Digital Foundry. I like Alex's grahpics breakdowns though

[wise flax]

I missed that video and haven't played that game

[summer notch]

ugly game

[wise flax]

Was SHF bad?

[daring orbit]

what is SHF?

[crude marsh]

I would try it, honestly man its kind of a toss up in this game cause there are so many problems either way

[cosmic zenith]

Silent hill F

[summer notch]

some people liked it, I had to force myself to finish it

[jade flame]

You just use RCAS @ 0.5?

[cosmic zenith]

It was okay, but way to repetative and the dialogue was written by a visual novel writer. You could tell

[daring orbit]

yeah im never playing that game

[cosmic zenith]

Nothing was even mildy subtle

[wise flax]

I heard reasonably good things about the gameplay, but haven't researched it a ton. I did hear it doesn't play like a Silent Hill game so much.

[true dagger]

i like rcas in CS at .7

[crude marsh]

I am using 0.7 atm

[lament nymph]

kevin said digital foundry automatically shill for whatever games they got invited to an interview with the dev

and he was right

never doubt kevin

[true dagger]

stole it from Lazor when he typed it yesterday xD

[jade flame]

kk. I'll give it another try. ty ^^

[wise flax]

Kevin?

[lament nymph]

threat interactive

😂

[wise flax]

Ah I'm not familiar

[jade flame]

Why would you speak his name here? Do you want him to come after us?

[viscid wedge]

I can't really tell if its doing anything, or if I have the right one. #1469072401450012774 message

[lament nymph]

I couldn't handle his psychosis rant

I would just leave the discord

[cosmic zenith]

I avoid any tech person who entrenches themselves in drama. I've even started turning away from Gamer's Nexus now that it feels like they're always chasing controversy

[true dagger]

i do notice a difference when sliding it around

[wise flax]

Maybe I'm too old for this chat lol I'm lost...

[lament nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-interactive-optimization-optimize-unreal-engine-ue4-gif-18219894813206068623

[tight wind]

How can I download the RenoDx configuration for Crimson Desert?

[viscid wedge]

hmm. I feel like maybe something happens but also might just be in my head lol

[viscid wedge]

pins

[jade flame]

He'd be a good ally for consumer rights if he'd tone down the friendly fire.

[crude marsh]

the foliage man.... I am still trying to find a way to change LODs and draw distances

[jade flame]

I wish you the best. May the power of God be on your side.

[true dagger]

yea i hope someone or hopefully the devs fix the LODs and the pop in especially

[viscid wedge]

Yep, I stopped for that reason too. Every video was an hour long drama fest. I just wanna watch some entertainment on my youtubes, man.

[viscid wedge]

what, you don't think flowers should appear from the ground as you get within 10 feet of them?

[cosmic zenith]

Would recommend the Path of Exhile 2 dev vids, even if you don't play the game

[true dagger]

artistic choice!!

[cosmic zenith]

They're fun and get into detail about game design

[lament nymph]

for a korean game all these ladies are good looking but not eye candy like tifa

[jade flame]

I funny that Plasma and GN both made a video in the same day that specifically said, "if a rock doesn't appear until it's 5 inches from your foot. Just fucking get rid of it."

[frosty fulcrum]

i hope someone makes a mod for infinte sprint outside of combat

that should just be standard these days

[cosmic zenith]

I would marry that orc lady who sells meat

[jade flame]

Kliff to Tifa character swap mod when???

[viscid wedge]

I keep forgetting to at least try the mod that makes run the default when you move the stick.

[true dagger]

the issue is that even the hills and stuff on trees pop in too, i can see the textures swap

[cosmic zenith]

The shader toggler mod lets you disable a lot of the pop-in clutter. Looks much better disabled lol

[pure sundial]

Hey fellas I have a question, I'm using HDR10+ for the first time because I saw this game supported it, will I have to turn it off if I want to use renodx?

[crude marsh]

game looks barren as hell the draw distances are so low, no grass no bushes and thin 2d trees

[lament nymph]

least it has better draw distance than forspoken

[crude marsh]

I think the sentiment from reno folks is HDR10+ doesn't really provide anything

[cosmic zenith]

Being able to increase the draw distance would be nice. The game doesn't use a lot of my VRAM

[pure sundial]

Alright thanks

[pure sundial]

I agree, also some of the LODS of cities in the distance look so terrible

Turning to mush when they are still very visible

[cosmic zenith]

I noticed that, I was looking back at the first town, and a moving cart in front of it looked great but the actual town looked ass

I understand having mush lods for thigns that are past the fog line, but it kicks in way too early

[crude marsh]

if game had real draw distances, shadows, and LOD then it would look pretty solid

[lament nymph]

you mean the cinematic settings are in fact not very cinematic?

[crude marsh]

well, also all of the effects need to be full res

and clouds

[true dagger]

i feel like the game can look good but this is def one of the things holding it back rn, ignoring the buggy shadows u see sometimes through objects

[pure sundial]

I understand wanting to reduce Vram but playing at 3440x1440 on everything maxed out I still have 10 gbs of vram to spare on my 5070 ti

[crude marsh]

I am somehow using 15GB, but that is with RR at 5k x 2k dlss quality

[true dagger]

yea i use like 7-8gb of vram out of 24, cmon

[daring orbit]

i cant understand why the textures look so low res

[lament nymph]

9.7gb

and I have rebar on

[crude marsh]

texture pools super low and really low LODs, alongside some low res assets

[sleek veldt]

Mods will save this games looks

Parallax mods are already a help

[cosmic zenith]

Is rebar enabled for CD? It's disabled for like every game by default

[wise flax]

I'm barely breaking 8gb vram at 4k RR DLSS-Q with mostly cinematic settings...

[lament nymph]

I just force rebar on everything cause with so much vram it usually doesn't hurt

[daring orbit]

lol can you imagine the size of the texture packs for this game😆

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, I'm hitting around 8/24 highest settings DLAA, no RR at 4k

[cosmic zenith]

Fair, I should probably force it for CD since I got so much extra vram

RE9 was maxing out my vram until that update that disabled pathtracing for like half the game.

Which sucks, and I hope they fix

[jade flame]

I think the blur I am seeing when I use RR was actually from having FG on. RIP
Not really playable without FG unfortunately.

[lament nymph]

also games should just abandon sun exposure whenever u walk out of a dark place

[worn ibex]

Shadow pop in is crazy too

[viscid wedge]

SK does funky calculations and says i'm using just 6GB, but thats 1080p>4K. Windows says 10GB.

[lament nymph]

I don't want to be flash banged everytime

[frosty fulcrum]

When you realize this was originally going to be an MMO a lot of things start to make sense

[cosmic zenith]

Lordy, I've spent so many hours making auto exposure less of an eyesore in SO many games.

Had to do it for AC6 on a per-mission basis

[sleek veldt]

I don't think this is something you can realize

I think it's something you find out 😢

[jade flame]

I just think of it more as a modern version of a game made in the late 80's and I really start to get into the vibe of just making my own stories from exploring.

[lament nymph]

like eyes do adjust to being suddenly being out in a bright place, but they adapt quickly and don't do that shit again if u walk in and out again

[sleek veldt]

I just see it as an exploration game with missions to help you progress to beat the random boss fights

[pure sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-eyes-burn-cannot-unsee-burned-in-my-memory-gif-4950537

[sleek veldt]

Whether they say "main quest" or "faction"

no problem

[cosmic zenith]

Exactly, my main issue is that most games make your eyes adapt very quickly to dark areas when it takes minutes in real life

So you get that awful bright-dark shifting constantly

[lament nymph]

also film grain and chromatic aberration should be off by default

I'm off the camp that motion blur when done moderately is alright

DoF when done well is actually pretty good

[cosmic zenith]

Also agreed, forcing film imperfections should be optional

[crude marsh]

this games CA is bonkers

ruins the entire image

also the sharpening filter they used is quite poor

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, it was very noticable. Only games I've seen with that level of CA were fromsoft titles

[daring orbit]

i also like well done motion blur

[cosmic zenith]

TBH i wouldn't even use Reno in most titles if it didn't also help me turn off bad tonemapping, Luts, film grain, CA, etc

[crude marsh]

I mean isn't the whole point of reno to fix the tonemapping

[sleek veldt]

whatever parallax is idk if that works with RR

[crude marsh]

the POM

yeah they fucked something up hard for RR to impact depth for POM

[sleek veldt]

Parallax Occlusion Mapping

Yeah

I mean it's not just depth

it's the way aliasing happens

[crude marsh]

less aliasing with RR

idk the POM is just fucked, we can just hope Forge fixes it

[sleek veldt]

This is with it lessened

[lament nymph]

the bow in this game is close to worthless

takes 6 shots to kill someone

can't headshot cause game doesn't work like that

[true dagger]

i only use it to burn shit down

[sleek veldt]

POM on

off

RR is on on both

in PERF mode

[sleek veldt]

Percision shots don't matter?

[lament nymph]

u can't be precise cause the game does auto tracking for the arrow, you aim at the head and it already calculate whether or not the arrow hits based on visible object

it's a pretty weird system

[daring orbit]

You can aim use l3

[cosmic zenith]

You can get headshots with projectiles, but it doesn't seem to do extra damage or anything

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, I turn off POM from time to time with shader toggle, and it genuinely looks better half the time

POM ain't bad but it's waaaay too intense on most things

Reminds me of the bad parallax mods for skyrim

[lament nymph]

this game tries so tell you the world above matters, has main story that ties into it ... then hours later I didn't get to visit it once

[daring orbit]

This game reminds me of a 5000mod skyrim list for sure

Only sky climb works better