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[carmine stump]

Yes

Anyone here compared rebar on vs off in this game?

[tardy gust]

wait, do you NEED HDR for renodx to work

[rough granite]

for me yes its enabled in game

[tardy gust]

so when you disable it the renoDX settings stop working >/

[rough granite]

i didnt try

[sick monolith]

just seen plasma's video with black bar.. how is that triggered?

[viscid wedge]

RenoDX changes how the native HDR works. If you turn that off, you turn off HDR.

[lofty pumice]

hi so i cant use it without HDR? Just to use it as a tool to disable sharpening and chromatic aberration?

[tawny ravine]

@sly swift yesterday I said we will probably never find out why the story turned out the way it did and why it's so bad and now I wake up and see that two ex pearl abyss devs went and leaked info about development on a Korean site. Both of their accounts are verified so this isn't just made up rambling.

What a scummy studio

[viscid wedge]

not sure. what happens when you try?

[lofty pumice]

didnt try yet .. ok will try to see what happens

[flint moss]

Sad to see. SK does seem to have a quite cutthroat hierarchical job culture from what I've seen

Saw some video about chaebols, crazy stuff

[tawny ravine]

It always boils down to higher ups fucking up everything because they think they know best

[flint moss]

Higher ups that don't like games, only money

[golden scaffold]

I think it might be dlaa

[final imp]

yeah dlaa does that to me

[sterile sable]

this is misleading there's no config directory

[true dagger]

AppData\Local\Pearl Abyss\CD\save\user_engine_option_save.xml

[viscid wedge]

can confirm, editing that file works

[sterile sable]

yeah i know, message about with path to settings ini made up by some ai youtube video

[sterile sable]

it's pointless though

all edits you do in that file you can do in game

[viscid wedge]

Not if an in game setting crashes the ame and you need to adjust it manually so you can start it again.

[lofty pumice]

I installed it but I dont see any difference between sharpening 100 and 0 .. do I need to save it somewhere when I made the changes?

I can open reshade menu, I see renodx tab, can alter the settings, but non of the settings seems to be doing anything

[viscid wedge]

The first build I feel like the sharpening slider was definitely working. This new build I can't tell anymore.

[sterile sable]

well maybe, but this file completely useless if you compare it to actual ini which may containt some settings not exposed in game. From that file you only can conclude that devs are geniuses who hard coded DLSS into 5 values and if you try to alter these through NVPI or Nvidia app you will get black image

[narrow frost]

True, sorry I was watching another thread and got it mixed up. 😄

[viscid wedge]

So does this file exist and you're just not sure where?

[tame vault]

Dlaa AND frame gen for me..both need to be on then you get that black mess

[narrow frost]

Doesn't exist, its already set in the game engine itself.
That's why overriding the scaling for RR etc causes the black screen issue as well - as they mentioned.

[viscid wedge]

I know, that was kinda the point I was getting at 😉

[lament nymph]

so many fetch quests ...

[polar crow]

I get weird black flickering on top of the screen when I turn on DLAA, any idea how to get rid of that?

[lament nymph]

if turning on dlaa is the trigger and is the fix, it's dlaa

[hidden ivy]

I really like the vibe at night

[smoky brook]

slightly overcooked but what can you do

[faint bobcat]

I am not bald

dafuq

[hardy owl]

Just a heads-up. Combining DLDSR with DLSS gives a very good image quality in general. Its worth trying

[daring orbit]

Man even with sharpness and chromatic aberration gone, dlss 4.5 still sux in this game

[golden scaffold]

Can you describe this in more detail what are you actually using?

[green gulch]

whats a good dsr settings? im in 4k already and 5070 ti

[narrow frost]

Problem is, if you use DSC these options will not be available.

[faint bobcat]

I like how everyones RR is le bad or DLSS is le bad

nah

its the game

garbage in

garbage out

[sterile sable]

only for cards below RTX 50xx

RTX 5080 works fine with dsc and dldsr

[narrow frost]

True, because of the display head engine changes. Literally all cards prior to 50s series are crippled lmao.

[hardy owl]

So I personally play at 4k. What I did was to use DSR 1.25 I believe which increases the resolution up to 5k or around that. And then inside the game I selected DLSS balance. The IQ is cleaner in my eyes

[hardy owl]

What is dsc?

[golden scaffold]

If I would do that I would get like 15 fps 💀 you use RR?

[scenic adder]

It'll be fun to see the eventual comparison pictures between vanilla and the 'finished' mod

[narrow frost]

Display Stream Compression, all modern monitors uses it.
Some lets you toggle it while others turn it On or is always enabled.

[sterile sable]

display stream compression

[narrow frost]

its what lets you get those high resolution, high hertz combos.

[hardy owl]

I am playing on a 4K OLED TV with a 4090. I have no idea what that is

[viscid wedge]

*depending on the bandwidth needed (not all use it)

[narrow frost]

True, that's what I also meant by some lets you toggle. My G60SD QD-OLED for instance is forced with DSC (running it over HDMI 2.1b).

[golden scaffold]

I think it's forced on my s95f in 165hz and is causing some issues, while 120hz is stable. I gave up on 165

[viscid wedge]

Unless its 165Hz, you don't have or need DSC.

(i'm also on a 4K OLED but only 120Hz)

[hardy owl]

Yeah mine is 120hz too

[golden scaffold]

It's not like I can actually run much beyond 100 fps anyway

[viscid wedge]

I sure as hell can't, even with DLSS Performance + RR. If I turn off RR, then I can but.. as we know that looks like garbage.(4090)

[narrow frost]

Its only really useful for lighter games or competitive shooters.

[viscid wedge]

Hilarious, 4090's can't hit 100fps with a 1080p input resolution. Modern games are fun.

[golden scaffold]

Yeah thanks to sloptracing

[hardy owl]

I am personally fine with lower framerates. I dont need high fps to enjoy a game. That being said bad image quality is a deal breaker for me

[viscid wedge]

This is about the same performance I'm getting in Cyberpunk with full path tracing and the same upscaling settings. In fact thats probably a little better.

And Cyberpunk looks 100x better.

[smoky brook]

chatGPT says sorry

[faint bobcat]

Nvidiot title

Vs

AyyyMD title

This game doesn't use SER

Or OOM

That's about +30% perf left on the table

For RT

Thanks to AyyyMD

[hardy owl]

@faint bobcat any progress with the shadows? How is it going there?

[viscid wedge]

Funny, not hearing from any of the 9070xt owners on their experience

[daring orbit]

Is anyone else noticed its hard to get good gpu utilization with frame gen?

[faint bobcat]

Nada, need new shaders

Waiting for shortfuse

I decided to work on their RT shaders instead

[hardy owl]

Oh good to know 👍

[golden scaffold]

Anyone figured out how to show PS5 icons instead of xbob? It's confusing me a lot

[sudden pulsar]

Sounds like slacking to me

[faint bobcat]

Slop game doesn't deserve full attention

I am vibing

[hardy owl]

Usually if you disable steam imput in the game's properties it should show them

[narrow frost]

Same, wonder how the ARC GPUs are performing...

[vivid iris]

0.75 but yeah

[golden scaffold]

Oooh Ty ❤️

[true dagger]

is it gonna improve the visuals mostly or is the perf improvable too, or is that just devs job

[hardy owl]

You dont like Crimson Desert? I am actually enjoying it a lot, even though it has IQ issues

[daring orbit]

Its pretty good

Fishing is top notch

[true dagger]

i dont get the fucking fishing, i always snap the line

[faint bobcat]

noise, if I get IS-FAST binded to the shaders and replace their white noise

[viscid wedge]

I'm going to continue playing it but man its so weird. Finished chapter 1 and still have no idea whats happening. Just running around aimlessly doing fetch quests

[true dagger]

do u reel in once its tired like in RDR2?

[narrow frost]

Yeah, avoid it from catching the line on rocks etc or it will break.

[daring orbit]

You gotta pull against the run, then when the fish stops running, pull straight back and then reel

[golden scaffold]

Slop 😞

Why is this a thing

[hardy owl]

Yes usually if you use Dualsense you have to play with a cable.

This is the reason why I moved to this

[golden scaffold]

I can't have my playstation glyphs

[narrow frost]

I'm playing this on the original Steam Controller lol.

[hardy owl]

Totally recommended, unlike Dualsense, this one will not get stick drift ever

I had 3 Dualsenses, got tired of the stick drift

[true dagger]

8bitdo cheap and great budget controller

[mortal wolf]

down to 73%. if i task the AI to decompile the whole game, how much it'll consume. just let it run overnight

[daring orbit]

Nice a real d pad

[faint bobcat]

Decomp every shader

I need them all

sky

BRDF

alll

[golden scaffold]

I have the EasySMX20 great controller with hall effect but stick precision is not as good as my DualSense

[daring orbit]

Unlike the stupid double clicking satellite dish on mu vader4

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[mortal wolf]

i need to make a slop folder because none of this code is to be trusted yet

just src/utils/slop/**.hpp

[faint bobcat]

decomp.exe only managed to decompile 23 shaders out of 2360 for me

so oof

[plush parcel]

60 left

[faint bobcat]

Not that I need all 2360

[mortal wolf]

%"class.StructuredBuffer<ManyLightsData>" = type { %struct.ManyLightsData }
%struct.ManyLightsData = type { <4 x float>, <4 x float>, <2 x i32>, <2 x i32> }

llvm declares after usage 🙁

i think it's handled, but just another reason why it's a cursed "language"

[faint bobcat]

@modest drum R2 was rip

Needs stochastic blue noise

[sinful aspen]

Am I stupid? I can't find a link to download this mod
EDIT: Thanks for the pin emoji, good sir!

[faint bobcat]

so I need to bind SRV and the custom blue noise I have

[modest drum]

Is it animated by frameindex

[sharp tundra]

hello mates. i'm new here. can some one help me find link to renodx for CD?

[green gulch]

#1469072401450012774 message

[hardy owl]

#1469072401450012774 message

[sharp tundra]

@green gulch@hardy owl
Ty!

[sudden pulsar]

You are going to have such a meltdown at the first patch that will change all their hashes rooofl

[faint bobcat]

Doesnt update game

[sudden pulsar]

Coward

[faint bobcat]

dont care

L

ratio

My custom update better

[narrow frost]

Starts steam
Crimson Desert - Updating

[faint bobcat]

Yh

Steam is dogshit

would have gotten this on GoG

they dont cuck me and force updates there

waht a shit system

why cant I decided when I want to update

[true dagger]

i wanted to buy on gog too, but i didnt see them have it, do they always get new releases later or what

[faint bobcat]

its rarer to see games on GoG

[fast geyser]

As long as there's Denuvo, no GoG

[faint bobcat]

yes, the shaders have it and I made sure to use it

[narrow frost]

I personally just change the Steam manifest for said game to a random directory and or leave it blank, set it as Read only.
Gets a read error in Steam if it tries to update.

Did this for all my games that I modded a ton, such as skyrim, cyberpunk etc.
Then just set "DIRECTORY\Game.exe" %command%" as the launch option for the game in the Steam library.

[modest drum]

Maybe try hilbert curve from xegtao

That one is a lot closer to blue noise

Nvidia also recommended it I think

Good for TAA converge

[modest drum]

Yup

[golden scaffold]

@mortal wolf can you explain why CA does such a huge splash on CIE diagram but I actually can't tell any difference with my eyes? Am I just colorblind or is this something your brain filters trough and is causing you strain? I never noticed CA doing this before watching you explain this on the video but I still don't get it (I can't see it?)

[modest drum]

I can imagine the devs just adding a new value in viewport or global cbuffer

Then every hash will change lol

[faint bobcat]

we live for a good time, not a long time

I will just abandon the game like Endfield

[analog parrot]

Best controller ever

[nova cargo]

my brother pays $200 a month for pro

[nova cargo]

runs in ap1 color space

but its just CA

not actual color grading

you can see the splash on the diagram is basically noise

its all grainy

[golden scaffold]

Are you supposed to see the noise with your eyes? I cant see any difference

[halcyon ibex]

Do I need to activate HDR to disable chromatic aberration?

[hardy owl]

Affirmative

[halcyon ibex]

[nova cargo]

not really

i mean its chromatic aberration so you'll see the weird stuff on the edges of the screen

[honest otter]

my game wont start with reno installed -.-

i used the commander app

[modest drum]

https://github.com/GameTechDev/XeGTAO/blob/a5b1686c7ea37788eeb3576b5be47f7c03db532c/Source/Rendering/Shaders/vaGTAO.hlsl#L74

So yeah this noise

https://extremelearning.com.au/unreasonable-effectiveness-of-quasirandom-sequences/

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/3tB3z3
maybe useful too

[nova cargo]

Jimenez

[sterile sable]

I have weird issue with my ultimate 2 so when i take it off charging dock all actions are delayed until off/on controller sometimes

[modest drum]

tbh this isnt so bad

[viscid wedge]

weird. I haven't seen that in my U2

[modest drum]

I feel like the RT outputs are only half resolution

Which would explain the blurriness from upsampling? Especially on the fine fur mattress

[faint bobcat]

pretty sure thats caused by their abysmal displacement mapping

if you undraw the shader

a trillion issues with flickering and stairstepping just vanish

[crude marsh]

my card running at high clocks and low temps with shit perf be like

[faint bobcat]

AyyyMD still doesnt support it fully

Need to wait for RDNA 5

jokers

[crude marsh]

well... when entire game flickers and boils with RR.... and the foliage is having a seizure

[faint bobcat]

again, people are placing too much faith on RR and DLSS

if its garbage in

its garbage out

DLSS cant magically fix everything

Need to cope and see if I can improve base shaders

[sudden pulsar]

That R2 on the gif has such an easily identifiable pattern tho lol

[faint bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-interactive-optimization-optimize-unreal-engine-ue4-gif-18219894813206068623

[smoky brook]

the British phrase is you can't polish a turd

[hardy owl]

You got this my man

[wispy crown]

Quick question. Did we reach a consensus on Preset D vs Preset E for RR?

[sudden pulsar]

Sure, the coverage is good, but it’s bound to be biased to death at some point, no?

[viscid wedge]

Just trying to do what we can so I can stop thinking about the graphics and just play the game. In the games current state, DLSS Per + RR @ 4K is the best "I" can do.

[modest drum]

Well.. let forge cook blue noise with renodx XD

[wispy crown]

Wait they're not using blue noise?

[faint bobcat]

no

white noise

for all RT shaders

[sudden pulsar]

Halton 4 Lyfe

[wispy crown]

What a strange decision... I thought everyone is using blue noise nowadays

[hardy owl]

I keep hearing about blue noise and white noise. Why is white noise so bad?

[carmine stump]

One LOD to rule them all

[sudden pulsar]

It’s badly random

[crude marsh]

hopefully I can figure out how to change something in their assets for better LODs, I have a feeling their texture/mesh pool is forced to be small

[sudden pulsar]

As in, the samples will clump horribly and leave holes

[modest drum]

Forge just put the entire blue noise texture as a cbuffer

[faint bobcat]

I will replace every stochastic shader to use it anyways

[wispy crown]

White noise is equal distribution. Blue noise has a more high frequency and less low frequency. Idk why it works better just know that it performs on average much better.

[hardy owl]

But it seems like blue noise looks visually better right? At least that's the idea i got from Forge

[faint bobcat]

Im not just using blue noise but

importance sampled Filter-Adapted Spatio-Temporal blue noise

[faint bobcat]

🤓

[crude marsh]

interestingly, in my real life optics experience I guess its semi related, blue much better for frequency detail

[wispy crown]

Looking at how hard the engine tries to stay in a 8GB VRAM buffer even on highest settings that's likely to be true.

[hardy owl]

Holy shit 💀

[worn ibex]

Forge how’s the progress going

[faint bobcat]

I see an issue, try a solution, it doesnt work

mald

repeat

[worn ibex]

Damn

[wispy crown]

Yes it's almost always preferred. I think every game in the last 2-3 years uses that. All Nvidia documentations to RT use blue noise afaik.

[smoky brook]

crazy how much of a difference that is

[modest drum]

Well..

[worn ibex]

What issues have you fixed so far tho

[hardy owl]

Why the heck would developers use white noise then lol.

[sudden pulsar]

None

He useless

[worn ibex]

Shadow flickering? Since you moved onto noise

[faint bobcat]

nope, need shaders

[narrow frost]

Its wild, constantly high 7.8-8GB allocated, only uses 5.5-6GB.
Never seen a game being this aggressive to hit a set amount of video memory lol.

[faint bobcat]

decomp doesnt work

for me

waiting for the cheif

to send me

[sudden pulsar]

He keeps asking Claude, it keeps answering back “lol u suk”

[crude marsh]

I mean the devs have used a mish mash of old rendering tech and new tech and have bastardized the new tech

[worn ibex]

Wasn’t decomp solved by short fuse like 2 days ago

[modest drum]

"it's kinda a no brainer really" - DF

💀

[nova cargo]

they basically just got the post processing stuff

[crude marsh]

they even threw restir in with RR because???

[worn ibex]

Oic

[wispy crown]

They will have their reasons we probably never know but I'm sure they don't just randomly do something out of the ordinary without having a good reason for it.

[sudden pulsar]

cough cough

[hardy owl]

Is the reason in the room with us? Lol

[sudden pulsar]

Tunnel vision is real when it comes to these things

[teal pumice]

you are wrong bro, dlss 5 can fix everything

[wispy crown]

They are not stupid developers. Games are very complex and they developing their own engine. Let's not talk down on them like we would do better.

[crude marsh]

their reason is they are not experienced developers with modern techniques and threw stuff together, probably

[narrow frost]

I can't wait for DLSS 5 to come and fix all these issues you guys are facing.

[scenic adder]

I'm sure there's a reason, probably not a very good one, though

[faint bobcat]

example of what Toru was able to do with IS-FAST

[smoky brook]

they simply monte Carlo'd the choice of techniques (without importance sampling)

[teal pumice]

sure

[hardy owl]

I know. I am just joking buddy. That being said, I think that the game has a problem with shadows and how they render and since I have paid for the product I think I can complain a bit at least

[teal pumice]

dlss 5 will fix everything

with just one click bottun

Jensen Magic

[wispy crown]

For sure but I also think a lot of these issues might either be engine problems from decisions made in the beginning of the project (tech debt) or just console optimization

[sterile sable]

some of the issues are straight up ignoring what manuals tell you to do

[sick monolith]

teach me how to activate RR without max lighting

[sterile sable]

their exclusive fullscreen implementation is superb though

[hardy owl]

Yeah the white noise and blue noise was definitely shocking

[wispy crown]

Yeah but without knowing the reason why they ignored the "manuals" it's quite pretentious to judge them isn't it?

[wispy crown]

That's the neat thing... You don't

[worthy kernel]

there's no fullscreen exclusive in dx12

[crude marsh]

exclusive fullscreen isnt supposed to exist in dx12 yeah

[sudden pulsar]

Is this able to hold the properties of a blue noise the higher you crank the sample count, btw? Or does it inevitably degenerate to a white noise?

[worthy kernel]

what "fullscreen" does in dx12 games is temporarily changing windows display settings

[crude marsh]

no, we can look at bad things, see the bad behaviors, see what they did in shaders, and conclude that its bad and the decisions weren't sensible

[scenic adder]

Regardless of the reason for it, if something is an issue, it is an issue

[errant wolf]

did discord change or something. i cant find pins or links to download

[sterile sable]

whatever, in this game it working flawless it acts like borderless but tricks system so I can use DLDSR without it stretching image past screen borders

[teal pumice]

kinda too tired to say this now

[errant wolf]

im too old. can someone send download link in mail

[teal pumice]

fullscreen exclusive in 2026

[wispy crown]

I fully agree but I think the reasons behind that are important and just saying "developers are stupid" isn't a solution. Just want to remain a bit more positive.

[teal pumice]

[faint bobcat]

https://youtu.be/aFSkDFcxVVc?si=3qvYDiZNXUW_R2ta&t=1276

watch vid

I am not explaining allat

its by EA

[worn ibex]

Man it’s kinda baffling that in the DLSS docs it is specifically mentioned that you should adjust the lod bias settings but devs still don’t do it

[modest hatch]

Yo did yall release it ?

[hardy owl]

I think it's pretty clear from the get go that there is something fundamentally wrong with the visuals in motion. Shadows flickering and changing LODs in front of the player is a big one, the clutter pop in, the noise in interiors or the extreme sharpening it had before the mod. These are decisions that are baffling so I don't see any reason to not judge them

[wispy crown]

If that were the problem the driver override of LOD bias -1.625 should work but in my experience it changes nothing. Seems to be a deeper issue.

[modest hatch]

Ok

[worthy kernel]

the extreme sharpening may be due to how poor image quality is on consoles

so blurry they need to sharpen the image to make it "4k"

[worn ibex]

The changing LOD is VRS I believe it can’t change LOD bias like that

[teal pumice]

special sauce from Sony apparently

[worthy kernel]

also the interior noise is because their denoiser doesn't do jack shit
even the worst ue console ports aren't that bad

[modest hatch]

I did haha

[teal pumice]

is it worse than the capcum denoiser though

[sterile sable]

Yeah they put dlss/rr after effects in pipeline and by manual it should be before it page 9 of dlss programming manual

[narrow frost]

Honestly, they are pretty close lol.

[teal pumice]

in RE4, if you turn on RT your image quality is fucked up

[sterile sable]

the ones who ignored lod bias mentioned in same document are Dead Space remake developers and in that game you could improve butchered textures by adjusting lod bias

[narrow frost]

RE9 its either PT or Turn it off, its super noisy. xd

[sterile sable]

also crapcom did same thing with re4 remake

[worn ibex]

You mean after post processing?

[teal pumice]

its somewhat acceptable in re2/re3/re7, if you jack up the resolution scale to 200%

[worn ibex]

Like as post processing

[teal pumice]

but in re4 its like

[hardy owl]

PT in Requiem is a beautiful mess. The noise and ghosting is unbearable

[teal pumice]

just turn it off

[sterile sable]

yes at least some effects/PP in their game are rendered before DLSS

[narrow frost]

Yep, for me Preset L and Overriding the DLSS with PT made it look noticeably better - regular RT in the game is like having tons of dark termites moving were the reflections should be.

[teal pumice]

and the SSR in re4 is also ass

like 1/4 res at max setting

[hardy owl]

It is possible to fix now with a mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/5841

[sterile sable]

well I'm happy that crapcom took their new games from AMD prison

[teal pumice]

AMD always fail

[sterile sable]

CD also seems like AMD sposored title

[teal pumice]

this looks promising, gonna try it later

[teal pumice]

the only AMD sposored title (that looks good) i can think of is the callisto protocol

everything else is a mess

[narrow frost]

They are pretty good at shooting themselves in the foot, whenever they are on top lol.

[teal pumice]

ah i actually forgot jedi survivor

but that game is also a technical mess

[faint bobcat]

moment of trooofff

either it works

or the game crashes

and Miru will need to help me

[hardy owl]

🤞🤞🤞

[digital quest]

Either it works or it doesnt

50% chance

[narrow frost]

Gambling

[hardy owl]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-working-computer-fire-burning-work-pressure-gif-797541937587978407

[worn ibex]

You can’t use preset L with PT

[narrow frost]

Yes my bad, forced RR.

[viscid wedge]

Maybe one day we'll get updated RR. One can dream

[faint bobcat]

game didnt crash, and debug is reporting noise as loading

now to test and see if it works

inb4 its loading but not being binded

[hardy owl]

https://tenor.com/view/bendecir-prays-pray-sign-of-the-cross-prayer-gif-15685741

[solar bone]

oh snap

[crude marsh]

Loading order
1. RenderConfigurationMaterial.xml
2. RenderConfiguration.xml
3. RenderConfigurationEditor.xml
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<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassVisibility.xml"/>
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<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassFiltering.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassTranslucency.xml"/>
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<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassEnvCubeMap.xml"/>
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<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassGlobalIllumination.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassAtmosphericScattering.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassPostProcess.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassRaytracing.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassUI.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassEffectSystem.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassGBufferCharacter.xml"/>
<!--
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassTerrainGenerate.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassObjectHeight.xml"/>
-->
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassEffect.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassAudio.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassCapture.xml"/>
<RenderPass FileName="RenderPassDirectML.xml"/>

[faint bobcat]

Lazorr about to invalidate everythign I do

with new shaders hashes

[errant wolf]

where is instructions. i got everything working but nothing changed or changes with silders. i used the 6.7.1 + renodx file and pinned crimson desert addon

[solar bone]

[hardy owl]

Are you using HDR, the addon only works with HDR

[errant wolf]

hmm i thought i was but let me doublecheck if ingame was not set on

[modest hatch]

Tell us if it works

If it does I’ll download rn

[solar bone]

Why wouldn't it work

[modest hatch]

Idk new things tend to not be perfect

[modest drum]

Hmmm how does this work exactly

[viscid wedge]

Of course it works, we've been using it since yesterday. Its clearly defined as a WIP though so take that as you will.

[modest drum]

For what I understand you need a shape to generate the noise textures for your filter

But I dunno how thats used for sampling

[errant wolf]

it works. just user error with hdr setting.

[carmine stump]

LOL, I just realized there is a quick access menu when you hold start/esc

[errant wolf]

i noticed the difference straight away and settings work

[carmine stump]

[digital quest]

I dont even know either because I told AI to implement it. Didnt write a single line.

frenzy

[narrow frost]

lmao 😄

[tender temple]

Is the crimson desert mod out yet?

[hardy owl]

@faint bobcat what happened did it work

[modest hatch]

Alright I’ll use it rn

[modest hatch]

Yes

[tender temple]

Where can I get it?

[narrow frost]

Must have worked really well, they're gone.

[modest hatch]

What’s gone

[modest drum]

😂

[narrow frost]

@faint bobcat

[hardy owl]

His computer blew up right?

💀

[narrow frost]

Must have been some crazy shaders they got to experience.

[tender temple]

Where can I get the crimson desert mod?

[crimson blade]

how are we getting PT in crimson desert? Not seeing that as an option and I just swapped off Preset L

[carmine stump]

when you jump with horse and then double tap Y you jump from horse

interesting

[narrow frost]

Afaik the RR has a bunch of additional RT functions (more bounce lighting etc), which is why its so intensive.

[crude marsh]

technically RR turns on RESTIR and drastically increases the number of RT Samples

[scenic adder]

Denoising is not a PT feature

[crimson blade]

and RR doesn't do that with Preset L on?

[crude marsh]

preset L is SR

[boreal thunder]

RR in Crimson is basically 5090 only

[errant wolf]

from "welcome" download 6.7.1 and RenoDX Build + addon from pinned. install reshade with features as you wish, i skipped all. throw renoDX build file and add on file next to the CrimsonDesert.exe

this is cinema

[crimson blade]

I have a 5070 ti and and I'm running RR just fine, granted I have DLSS 4.5 on perf with MFG 4x

[faint bobcat]

Ass shadows talked about Stochastic Transparency & Alpha. I took their principle and then we applied IS-FAST

Instead of using hard alpha testing, each fragment is accepted or rejected probabilistically based on its alpha value

Its also cheaper for RT anyhit since you avoid transparency accumulation

[carmine stump]

nah, 4090 is also fine

[boreal thunder]

I have to turn on DLSS performance to run it at 90fps without frame gen

[modest drum]

Ah

[final imp]

for MSI 341CQR X36 in peak mode max brightness is 1300 and full screen 300?

[carmine stump]

oH without FG? then sure thing

[viscid wedge]

Yep, 4090 here. RR + DLSS Performance. Its still ass but i'm in a perfectly playable state at 4K. No FG.

[crude marsh]

I get 45-50 base fps with 2x fg and RR at 5k x 2k dlss balanced on an RTX 6000, pretty not good performance lol but it runs - game scales terribly with resolution too

[carmine stump]

what you get then?

[true dagger]

im using RR+DLSS Balanced, FG to generate to about 130 fps or so

[wispy crown]

4090 here and works great. RR Performance from 5120x2160 with 2x FG about 80-100 FPS depending on scene.

[viscid wedge]

65-85 depending

Whats not clear to me is switching between DLSS 4 and 4.5. Nothing appears to change. Does this require a game restart? Various methods for showing what preset is currently in use doesn't change.

[boreal thunder]

Best image I can get on 5090 is to run at 2.25x DLDSR output to 4K DLSS performance 2x frame gen

[narrow frost]

I'm on a 4070 Super, I get 60-70 fps 1440p using Performance with the Cinematic Preset (no FG).
Very playable, though intensive.

[scenic adder]

If you're using RR, it overrides that

Because RR doesn't have a 4.5 version

[viscid wedge]

fair enough (i can't turn RR off, it looks so terrible)

[true dagger]

yep RR is 4.0 only, if u want 4.5 dlss, RR must be off

[viscid wedge]

We need updated RR DLL's! Comon Nvidia!

[wispy crown]

DLSS 4.5 is just a bigger transformer model isn't it? RayReconstruction in 4.0 is already a very big model.

[boreal thunder]

Hardware Unbox says this game has less noise in 4.0

[crimson blade]

ohhh is this really the case? The menu lets you have both on

[boreal thunder]

So even if you are not using RR you should use 4.0 preset K

[carmine stump]

DLSS 4.5 is TF 2.0

[crimson blade]

so what is actually happening when you have both on

[true dagger]

I use RR Preset E

[tender temple]

Thank you so much

[boreal thunder]

Ok let me try preset E

[scenic adder]

Ray Reconstruction also handles the upscaling when enabled, so it overrides whatever preset the upscaler is set to, using its own model instead.

And I guess they just didn't include that fact in the menu anywhere

[viscid wedge]

where i've landed for 4K on 4090. Enjoyable enough experience with a controller.

[crude marsh]

well, its because the game is insanely noisy in general and 4.5 has weaker temporal denoising but drastically improves everything else

TLDR when a game is insanely noisy and has a shit ton of flickering, 4 will hide it better

but will also ghost a lot

[finite anchor]

4080 here, I got around 70 at most times

[crimson blade]

don't you need in-game HDR on for RenoDX to work

[crude marsh]

yes

[honest otter]

i dont know how ppl can play this with dlss upscaling on. everything other than dlaa makes texures and geometry like stones look like shit

[faint bobcat]

it did neither

It instead didnt bind

kino

[crimson blade]

I'm going to try DLSS 4, that seems to be the way

[golden scaffold]

4070 Ti Super here. There's not enough difference between ultra perf and perf over not having RR on (tons of instability in shadows), so I settled with ultra perf on 4K with framegen to get an average 80fps (and it looks very good)

[viscid wedge]

because without it, any sort of lighting is a sizzling mess

[violet oyster]

Where do I download the beta version of the Crimson Desert mod?

[hardy owl]

So the fix didn't work basically

[faint bobcat]

@modest drum you want to help set up all the C++ for me

👉 👈

[crude marsh]

realistically there shouldnt be a noticeable difference between DLAA and say.... quality or 75% but this games upscaling implementation is a bit broken

[faint bobcat]

no, I am a smoothbrain and cant into low level API texture binding and SRVs

Shader is not getting the noise

DX12 is hard

mkay

This is why all the boomers still mod DX9 and 11

[violet oyster]

Forgive me, I don't really know how to use discord, Youtube video said to come here to download Crimson Desert mod. Help plz?

[faint bobcat]

Pins for addon

reshade with addon support

[smoky sigil]

wow that insane

[true dagger]

ok this noise is insane, reminds me of Stalker 2 lmao

[tranquil estuary]

VRS is the major disturbance on my side, what a novel idea to just, have that on.

[hardy owl]

#1469072401450012774 message

[crude marsh]

afaik it's forced per asset down to 1/8th at the lowest

[errant wolf]

do i dare to setup optiscaler along side this mod or will it brick everything. they went full retard with FSR4 sharpness maxed out and optiscaler can override that

[hardy owl]

I remember VRS ruined Dead Space Remake. I dont know how this isn't a toggle

[violet oyster]

thanks, I downloaded the mod 🙂

[tranquil estuary]

I've never seen VRS used in a way that even helped FPS, while decimating the image constantly.

[crude marsh]

yup

[faint bobcat]

it helps conslows gain 3 FPS

[tranquil estuary]

Also, I liked the irony that I could've swore VRS was an Intel backed/developed thing.

[crude marsh]

its basically just some stuff is rendered at a lower resolution

[tranquil estuary]

I just meant because Intel cards can't boot the game.

[crude marsh]

in many implementations

it should be more complex than that though

[fresh smelt]

need that 6x fg

[crude marsh]

like, rendering at lower resolutions when it doesnt matter to do so, but adapting to where the player is looking etc etc and rendering higher

but this game its just rendering a bunch of stuff at flat lower resolution all the time

[tranquil estuary]

I'm pretty sure it's rendering everything I'm not looking at, higher. 🫠

Time for waiting room for two weeks like every other AAA.

[digital quest]

How would they even know where player is looking

[crude marsh]

the player camera?

[digital quest]

I thought you mean player as in where our eyes are looking.

[tranquil estuary]

I mean..

[crude marsh]

aha! I have gotten the xml files to be readable

[faint bobcat]

USE_RESERVOIR_SAMPLING

[final imp]

dldsr tax is brutal on 5090 yall are crazy

[faint bobcat]

based

you can now disable ReSTIR

for all the plebs

so they can use RR

[sterile sable]

Can you try toggling DLAA once going back to game and then toggling whatever dlss setting you've been using back?

[hardy owl]

What does this mean? Good news?

[crude marsh]

wait I actually can because this encryption is reversible

dear god

[true dagger]

exact same on DLAA

[sterile sable]

strange, with RR on?

[true dagger]

yep

[crude marsh]

means I can modify all of their rendering passes so some extent

[true dagger]

only here tho, outside or any other interior is fine, this is the first and only thing where i see this

[smoky brook]

out of interest (I use LLMs a lot for other stuff) how u do this?

[sterile sable]

I just tested 1 interior in first town and the thing i mention above fixes it until game restart for me. DLAA also fixes it

[fresh smelt]

are you using that reverse engineering tool in kiro @crude marsh

[true dagger]

this is the first mission after starting Chapter 2, so if you progress in the game youll be here too

i wonder if others have this too

Reno Psycho / Vanilla

[chrome sun]

Thanks for your work on it, the game looks a lot better now

[crude marsh]

TLDR

I reverse engineered their custom data structures using claude, built a tree viewer, extractor, decryptor and decompression tool

Reverse engineering the encryption was quite painful, I used https://github.com/Ekozmaster/Vibe-Reverse-Engineering to find encrypt/decrypt/init function hooks, then found the functions for loading resource files, and then made a script that launches the exe and hooks into all of the resource loading and encryption functions, then I extracted 4000 keys

[errant wolf]

optiscaler works with renodx also. just use winmm.dll for optiscaler and required dxgi=false inside optiscaler.ini

[hardy owl]

I dont understand a single thing but I couldn't be happier

[crude marsh]

now I have to build something to reconstruct the paz files with modified xml

but it should work

[daring orbit]

What does optiscaler do for you in this game?

[worn ibex]

Oh wow wtf

[worn ibex]

So you’re saying, U+ soon?

[worthy kernel]

renoplus

[fleet jacinth]

it needs all the help it can get (the game that is)

[modest hatch]

Fighting the urge to say “where can I get the mod”

[daring orbit]

Looks like with reno dx, DLSS balanced, rr preset e and fg i can get around 80-100 at 3440x1440

With a 4080

[crude marsh]

they tested SDFs at some point

[true dagger]

pretty much same setup as u, 4090 with almost all Cinematic, i get about 130 FG

[buoyant crescent]

Open the chat page fully then you can see the pinned posts button on the top right

[polar seal]

id not heard of renodx unfil a few mins ago - does anyone know if this mod for crimson desert will help reduce the somewhat extreme sharpness & chromatic aberration? am sort of struggling to get the game to look ok because it’s giving me a headache

[hardy owl]

It will but only if you have access to HDR

[true dagger]

DLSS Balanced and DLAA

[narrow frost]

The mod has the option for it, but afaik it only works in HDR.

[daring orbit]

For some reason with fg my gpu utilization goes down

[polar seal]

I do yeah I just got my first decent monitor (LG 34” OLED)

[ember tulip]

FG has a cpu cost whats your cpu utilization at

[true dagger]

i only had the bug where if i turn off FG right now, it would make my GPU usage 60%, someone said a restart is required if that bug happens

[true dagger]

but i dont see that much of a huge difference in the textures, its just slightly sharper

[daring orbit]

55%🧐

[sick monolith]

balanced looks like it has more depth

[daring orbit]

Thats probably it cpu cost

[ember tulip]

weird no idea why it would drop gpu usage then

[daring orbit]

I dont trust my cpu number right now, i need to test it

I think i might have an x3d chip that is not working correctly 😩

[sick monolith]

if 1.25x is 1.0
then 1.0x is 0.8?

but yeah i trust 0.75

[narrow frost]

Which one?

is it Dual CCD or singular?

[finite anchor]

what app are you guys using to take HDR pictures?

[daring orbit]

I think its cause in this game, without rr on, the ray tracing is upscaled, even at native

[sick monolith]

press print screen. reshade will take screenshot and save it in game folder

[daring orbit]

5800x3d

[stone comet]

got an interesting shadow bug, there's like a whole block that just puts in a shadow for the top/left

[narrow frost]

Steam screenshots supports HDR Conversion, same goes for the Steam recording.
That's how I do it, though they have pretty aggressive compression on screenshots.

[ember tulip]

same as me then

[naive terrace]

this is DLSS 4.0? and what about quality vs DLAA?

[daring orbit]

I mostly just play elden ring or sekiro, so i rarely notice cpu load

[true dagger]

i noticed a bug that i sometimes see shadows or something like that, through a building, meant to be a shadow for a building thats behind it so i dont actually see it

so maybe same thing

[solar bone]

the hell is this weird ass effect as well

[polar seal]

sorry for the dumb question but how exactly do I go about installing this? can you point me to a pinned guide or something or is it just run it?

[solar bone]

like you're drunk

[stone comet]

Yeah usually those aren't that consistent but this one is completely stuck to my cursor now lmao

[viscid wedge]

I use SK but people get upset when I mention that. ReShade also works. Can set the hotkey and destination in the settings.

[narrow frost]

Yeah its a singular CCD, so you don't have that particular issue.

[tranquil estuary]

90% certain that's VRS

[sly swift]

😭 also the tears of the kingdom shit being added on

[narrow frost]

If it works great in other games then its likely just this one.

[daring orbit]

Well anyway this game is really fun

[finite anchor]

not sure if it looks bright enough on the screenshot

[daring orbit]

I can not think about elden ring, for hopefully 100 solid hours

[solar bone]

another trash effect

[daring orbit]

Oh yeah speaking of effects

[tranquil estuary]

Pretty bad when VRS is called an effect when it's supposed to be "optimization." 🤭 It's true though.

[ivory sandal]

that's not a diss it's just inaccurate. VRS is not an effect and properly implemented VRS isn't visible

[wispy crown]

@crude marsh Found any way to just globally disable VRS in the game yet? Wonder how many problems it might solve.

[fresh smelt]

RDXC is fully up and running for Crimson Desert now if you want an easy install

[daring orbit]

https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/1

[tranquil estuary]

Ooh, it's that guy that makes mods for every Nexus game possible.

[daring orbit]

This mod works well with reno dx, and you can get rid of a lot of effects

[polar seal]

is there a guide to installing this for crimson desert? im new 👉 👈

[tranquil estuary]

That's a self guided tool.

[fresh smelt]

yeah just install it then click install reshade and install renodx and you're done

[narrow frost]

I thought it was just UI at first glance, the lens flare removal actually makes me want to install it real quick.

[fresh smelt]

display commander doesnt work with crimson desert so dont install that

[lament nymph]

THIS GAME HAS SO MANY VISUAL ARTIFACTS THAT MAKES NO SENSE

WHY IS IT THIS BAD

[daring orbit]

I like toggling off the hud most of the time

[lament nymph]

in some parts there are green and blue slimes on the ground

[daring orbit]

Ive seen worse

[crude marsh]

still trying to get a pipeline for modifications working

[boreal thunder]

Thank you guys it looks glorious on 5760x3240 downscaled to 4K using DLDSR

[solar bone]

[lament nymph]

[low crane]

Right!? Only way to make it somewhat better is playing at 4k NATIVE.

[faint bobcat]

I will do it now

[lament nymph]

is that the camera or is ur game that bright

[faint bobcat]

Nukem told me how

[wispy crown]

Ah got it. Thank you so much for the work.

[solar bone]

siiick

[tranquil estuary]

Praise.

[sly swift]

man that also reminds me what’s up with all the studios doing this as of lateeeeeeee always pointing fingers or shit. there’s no way the complaining is just the minority in this day and age

[wispy crown]

That's amazing. Thank you!

[boreal thunder]

Not necessarily. 4K native’s lighting without RR is considerably worse than DLSS performance with RR on my 5090

[lament nymph]

whoever mentions without rr

[crude marsh]

yeah only decent lighting is with RR, but I am trying to disable restir atm...

[daring orbit]

I dont know korean culture so i cant make a judgement call about this studio

[polar seal]

Should I download reshade with full add-on support?

[daring orbit]

But its a good game i know that

[fleet jacinth]

What in the world is restir?

[faint bobcat]

Used for Pathtracing

[lament nymph]

even the menu is laggy I hate this game

[low crane]

Its either better lighting with crappy IQ with RR, or decent IQ with Crappy lighting at 4k native.

pick yer poison

[polar seal]

and am I unchecking all and then choosing the .addon64 from above instead?

[lucid shoal]

You can uncheck all

[wispy crown]

ReSTIR just makes sure to do RT more efficiently. It uses previous frames and neighbouring pixels to get a better result before the denoiser acts.

[daring orbit]

I alway check the illium film grain though, sometimes i like that effect

[blazing ledge]

is that heavier in performance?

[wispy crown]

ReSTIR should have similar performance but better image quality depending on scene.

[daring orbit]

If you disable it, in theory upscaling will work better

[crude marsh]

whatever they are doing is making RR far too expensive

[wispy crown]

ReSTIR especially works better when there's not that much light and most of the scene is illuminate by bounce lighting.

[lament nymph]

the only way to teleport is for your character to st and completely still, but then the character won't stop moving till 2s after you stop moving the stick

this is infuriating

so many questionable design choices

[wispy crown]

But probably is also the reason it looks so much better right?

[crude marsh]

to an extent yeah

[wispy crown]

They just should give us a different toggle for ReSTIR.

[crude marsh]

but ideally we could have a middle ground

[fresh smelt]

it turns off whenever i'm in dialogue with someone too it looks like
i mean it still says it's on but it doesn't work

[daring orbit]

This individual knows what they are doing, you sjould see e33

[errant wolf]

can lower fsr4 sharpness also. theres was 2 layers of added sharpness in the game. Reno can adjust ingame and optiscaler fsr4 sharpness.

no crashes from what i just tested 30min or so

[daring orbit]

Ill probably wait and see what ultra + does

[crude marsh]

anyway this is what RR is doing in addition to base game, from Forge yesterday

PrepareDlssRR 
TemporalResampleReservoirsDiffuseCS  - ReSTIR temporal
SpatialResampleReservoirsDiffuseCS   - ReSTIR spatial
GenerateTiledRadianceCacheOctahedronCS
BilateralReconstructionDiffuseGITiled```

[faint bobcat]

and they dont run RR on the last one

so it shimmers

and flickers

peak

[daring orbit]

Honestly a paper map mod would be cool

[narrow frost]

bruh xd

[modest hatch]

Hey guys where can I find the dxgi file when downloading the HDR mod

Browsed my files can’t seem to find it

[narrow frost]

You get it by installing ReShade + Full addon support.

[flint moss]

Honestly I've never had a game grow on me this much

[narrow frost]

You can just skip the shaders etc if you only want to use RenoDX.
Also while in-game, open Reshade and uncheck "Generic Depth" & "Effect Runtime Sync" under "Add-ons" (that is if you are not planning on using any extra effects).

[daring orbit]

Oh yeah by the way that no hud mod has a dxgi from an old version of reshade for some reason, you dont need it

[robust drum]

has anyone had this, when you turn on certain DLSS modes in game the screen is just black. I set it down to performance or ultra performance the game will show. I just updated to the latest nvidia driver. 4070

[crude marsh]

would all of the renderpass files help you?

[modest hatch]

It’s there

[polar seal]

is this in the settings section?

[boreal thunder]

This is my dream game. A real world with enough scale to sink in. Don’t care about story. It is like living in Knight of the Seven Kingdoms

[narrow frost]

After you choose the Rendering API in the Reshade installation (DX11-12 etc).

[modest hatch]

Wait so do I just skip the copy and paste from the tuturial by dio Brando?

I’m following his guide on YT

[polar seal]

I think I just unchecked everything lol

[lament nymph]

winds in this game blows more than ghost of tsushima and wind in that game has gameplay purpose

[daring orbit]

Yeah do that but, just delete dxgi.dll

[crude marsh]

here is their postprocess render pass

[daring orbit]

The one that installs with reshade is more up to date

[faint bobcat]

depends on what they contain, decomp pretty much has all the functions

whats special inside

maybe the order of how the shaders run

[crude marsh]

I'll zip em up, interesting to look at anyways

[late marlin]

I saw people talking on X that "now there is a Crimson Desert Renodx Mod". Are they talking about the wip Mod that is pinned here?

[polar seal]

I think I've done something wrong

LOOOLLLL

[faint bobcat]

sweet lord so everything is .xml

this is dreadful

[crude marsh]

yes

[faint bobcat]

oh yh, I have all of this in devkit already

[hardy owl]

Is this bad news?

[modest hatch]

For some reason pressing home isn’t working for me…

[faint bobcat]

for Lazorr sure

not me

[daring orbit]

Did you install the newest reshade?

[narrow frost]

LMAO

[boreal thunder]

I dunno I may like this open world more than Elden Ring’s. Elden Ring is excellent but this world feels more real

[crude marsh]

yeah real

really ugly

[daring orbit]

Ngl its honestly the best world ive seen for just exploring

[boreal thunder]

More lived in is what I want to say

[polar seal]

Should I set max brightness to max or just move it until the square is fully white?

[barren pasture]

Anyone tried locking fps to 30 with rtss async? Nvidia hud shows 50ms input lag, but It feels surprisingly super responsive and good. Playing on a controller

[hardy owl]

Dont give up lol

[hidden ivy]

man, all of those blue dots are constantly moving and shimmering. RR without ReStir when

[daring orbit]

Lol have you ever just started playing a gane, and thought " this look amazing"?

[barren pasture]

this way i can even call it playable on 4080S at 1440p DLAA with RR

[abstract hawk]

Until the square is fully white. But Reno should be bypassing all that anyway.

[crude marsh]

hellblade 2

[narrow frost]

Until the white is barely gone, typically OLED monitors are 400, 500, 700 and 1000 nits.
OLED TVs tends to do 1200, 1300, 1500 and 2000nits.

[polar seal]

ohh right ok

[daring orbit]

And plague tale
Requim

[polar seal]

yeah mine is 400

[crude marsh]

I thought Avatar was pretty for what it is and some obvious flaws, but such a huge and detailed environment I give it some slack

[daring orbit]

Helldiver 2 has the best draugr ever

[hardy owl]

Avatar is beautiful but ultimately soulless and boring unfortunately

[crude marsh]

yeah a bit

Doom TDA is... nice but also flat

[fresh smelt]

man what is this with dlaa on 🤦‍♂️

[daring orbit]

Honestly though i think plague tale Requim is underrated, it has a great art style

[crude marsh]

HDR + DLAA don't work

[narrow frost]

Also if you're on Windows 11, be sure to run the HDR Calibration App to get a good base tonemapping for yours.

[faint bobcat]

They're doing PSO-level VRS

[fresh smelt]

gah, ok
thanks man

[polar seal]

Yep did that when I got it!

[polar seal]

Is DLAA same as FSR? Should I turn off FSR in Crimson Desert if I using HDR?

[crude marsh]

DLAA is DLSS

[fresh smelt]

lets see if this works

[desert imp]

lol trying to fix those low res fires? lmao

[grave meadow]

is it normal that in game HDR settings are still active, even though Reno is working as intended?

[narrow frost]

DLAA is native but DLSS for antialiasing, while FSR is usually just straight up upscaling (unless its FSR Native etc).

[worn ibex]

A game that I have opened up and thought « damn this is beautiful » is definitely Elden ring lol

[desert imp]

yes most mods will tell u if you need to turn it off, most non unreal games u need hdr on

[polar seal]

So does this look ok in your opinion?

[worn ibex]

This was SDR at 1440p even

[low crane]

Saw this: https://x.com/SolidNSnake1985/status/2035358691600331145 "Have you ever wondered why there's so much flickering and noise that you see in the game Crimson Desert? It's all from the ray tracing that's super cheap.

Here's the performance difference:
Left image without modified ray tracing - 92 fps
Right image with modified ray tracing - 92 fps"

Nasser (@SolidNSnake1985)

هل فكرت لماذا الكثير من الوميض و الوشوشة التي تراها بلعبة Crimson Desert ؟ كلها من تطبيق تتبع الأشعة التي هي رخيص جدا

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X · Mar 21, 2026, 2:11 PM

[daring orbit]

There is fsr aa too

Same as dlaa

[desert imp]

DLAA looks the best imo 4.0 for best performance

[narrow frost]

Yeah looks good, mine (Ignore the DLSS 4.5 L lol):

[desert imp]

or 4.5 perf next

[fresh smelt]

nope is the answer

[polar seal]

I can't use the ray reconstruction/regeneration it drops me down to like 10 fps lol

[desert imp]

Dont use that even new cards can barely do it

[narrow frost]

Yeah I get like 30fps if I run it at native (~43 at quality) lol, hence why I use Performance.

[mossy haven]

for some reason now (I installed with RDXC) the game window wont launch. Its running cause its in my task manager but the window is no where to be found. So strange

[grave meadow]

i mean, usually when you activate Reno, all ingame HDR options are bypassed and have no effect. here Exposure and HUD brightness can still be changed from game menu...

[sudden pulsar]

That has to be first rofl

[sly swift]

Copilot ahh shaders

[desert imp]

Thats true. but reno wont apply if hdr in game isnt on for certain games

so you still need it on I think

[faint bobcat]

I added a toggle for VRS but I am not seeing any perf differences. I would check with Nsight but it crashes soooo

I will keep it as a placebo toggle

[sudden pulsar]

Does it help with the visuals, at least?

[hardy owl]

It doesn't make any difference visually?

[faint bobcat]

not really, they use PSO VRS

I cant adjust that

maybe theres per draw VRS somewhere

[sudden pulsar]

I sense weakness in you

[modest drum]

Claude got this

[faint bobcat]

I am off to do stuff I can do

like adjusting sky

and auto exposure

simpel

[sudden pulsar]

Where is my new PT mode running at 120fps and 8K native, huh?

Kevin would be disappointed

[faint bobcat]

Ask Kevin

[hardy owl]

Is Kevin the guy that looks like Patrick Bateman from Temu?

[hardy owl]

Lol can't stand him man

[modest drum]

I don’t think I can without actually running the game xd
I’m actually very slow and trying to do stuff with graphics api always took me hours or days to finish stuff

[faint bobcat]

Nsight crashes to make stuff worse

so its great

[sudden pulsar]

Punished Forge, a man stripped from his AI

[low crane]

That guy on X that i posted seem to have figured out a way to use RR without having it be set to max lighting.

[faint bobcat]

Miru = Grok but better?

[daring orbit]

Impossible

[worthy kernel]

grok you need to tell it not to make mistakes
miru just doesn't do any

[desert imp]

abnybody elses dlss on crimson desert creating this ugly flickering black bar at top of screen wtf

[sudden pulsar]

Don't use HDR + DLAA, apparently

[desert imp]

waaaaaa

🙁

[fresh field]

yeah i heard that DLAA and HDR causes some wonky shit rn

[desert imp]

ok ty

[fresh field]

like if you swap off DLAA and back itill 'fix' the black bar but it will eventually come back

[desert imp]

other dlss is just black sceren wtf

lol ok

that worked ty

[polar seal]

whelp - crimson desert now looks amazing on my pc. you guys are some absolute wizards thanks so much!

[fresh field]

i have no clue what causes the black screen with other DLSS presets. I havent had that issue.

running 1440p with DLSS 4 balanced

maybe its a 4k thing? i have no clue

[desert imp]

ok yeah maybe just me i did update drivers on 5070, and yes reno looks amazing with reno love u devs

[long stag]

is the current addon tied to using HDR? i'm on sdr, i just would like the chromatic aberration gone.
i can see the panel, but changing the sliders doesn't seem to do anything

[fresh field]

i also have the latest driver 595.79

[desert imp]

i never wanna play a game without reno ever again

[fresh field]

yes, reno tends to look pretty damn good

[rough granite]

really? I see no issues anymore seems fixed

[lilac urchin]

how is the game itself guys?

[fresh smelt]

i couldnt get the custom ratios to work

[rough granite]

( /s )

[lilac urchin]

is if fun?

[fresh field]

its real easy to just go off into the weeds as soon as you get access to the world

[narrow frost]

Have you had any issues so far?
Got around to updating for the RE9 driver when it came out, big mistake - my entire PC hardlocked while playing RE9 and 2 out of 3 GPU fans were spinning after that.
Was enough driver beta testing for me lol, wiped with DDU - sticking to 591.86 a long time now since haven't had issues with it.

[rough granite]

(was sarcastic, black screen = cant see issues anymore 😛 )

[fresh field]

i havent had any issues personally but i mean PCs are fikcle

[fresh smelt]

i tried dlss tweaks too but no luck

[analog charm]

optiscaler also didnt work to save you some time

[fresh smelt]

all the guys new to reno
i made an installer that makes setting everything up super easy
give it a go if you want 🙂
https://github.com/RankFTW/RenoDXChecker

[hardy owl]

Its great. It reminds me a lot to Dragons Dogma 2 but open world. The game has charm

[potent spear]

Such a handy tool, highly recommend it

[dire pilot]

it's Dragon's Dogma with 90s fighting game inputs lol

[hardy owl]

It's like an hybrid between Dragons Dogma and RDR2 lol

[rough granite]

it feels like everyone will have a different feeling

I really enjoy walking slow taking my time, and thinking its going to be a 200h game as map and activies seems massive. Lot of people would very much hate that.

also knowing that story wont make sense and I have to "imagine scenario / reasons" to do X

i'd say go in considering its imperfect, visual issues, stories and activies very disconnected, but gameplay and exploration is amazing

[dire pilot]

once you unlock the grapple and start getting wrestling moves, combat becomes hilarious

[lilac urchin]

the exploration is what making me itch and buy it!! i just want to get lost in something

[dire pilot]

literally full nelson an archer up in a tower through the floorboards and send it crashing

[daring orbit]

Yeah i really enjoy suplexin some fools

[lilac urchin]

i heard about the smackdown moves ahaha

[dire pilot]

every slam has like a 10m radius around you that sends everything flying or breaking around you - it's really funny

[lilac urchin]

i feel like that game is on crack trying to do so much

and now that reno is out i can clean the CA and noise

[fresh field]

i did tackle some bounty last night into a market stall and the whole thing fell on top of us lol

[hardy owl]

Then this is your game

[dire pilot]

I was shocked when I slid down a roof and jumped onto an awning only to fall through it - I'm so used to games having cloth awnings just be roofs you can walk on lol

[rough granite]

One downside though: you have to print a paper with all the key binds combinations 🥲

[lilac urchin]

i was to ask about the puzles haha

i dont want frutrastions

i heard some you have no idea on how to solve it

[hardy owl]

Puzzles so far have been very simple.

[lilac urchin]

worst case scenario ill just look it up

[wispy crown]

Then maybe wait for 6-12 months. The bugs can be frustrating as hell

[lilac urchin]

i dont mind a challenge

[analog charm]

you can use shadertoggler to "fix" the parallax occlusion mapping. left is the default with dlss quality and no RR

[wispy crown]

Boss fights can be incredibly unfair and stupid because of controls. The game can sometimes feel like "Hey let me search 15 minutes for what to do because they didn't tell me anything".

If it works the game is truly amazing but when it breaks god it's frustrating.

[crude marsh]

dear god modifying the games files is annoying

[wispy crown]

Isn't that just turning off POM? Left looks far better.

[crude marsh]

yeah its turning it off and this games implementation is broken which is why the right looks so much better

well

the terrain does anyways

not the bricks

but anyways forge is gonna rewrite it

[wispy crown]

Then my eyes are broken haha. For me the right looks flat while the left looks quite pleasent in the picture

[crude marsh]

some things look nice

but

[wispy crown]

But hey I'm playing almost without POM anyways thanks to RR

[crude marsh]

overall it causes a ton of artifacting and shimmering

[wispy crown]

Ah makes sense. Does RR have POM disabled or just reduced?

[crude marsh]

think he explained why it was bad somewhere above

[dire pilot]

the best thing I can say about the game visually is the environment after it rains - the way puddles collect and look on materials, especially wood, is very nice

[crude marsh]

think something about the depth not interacting correctly

depth shouldn't be impacted by RR like that....

I think they are using some cheap or not good depth mechanism

[hardy owl]

@crude marsh how are things going? Do you see the light at the end of the tunnel?

Any hope?

[ember tulip]

im hoping someone mods in a true first person mod i love wandering around in first person but then anything you do takes you out looting, combat, etc

[narrow frost]

I was surprised there is no first person horse-riding.

and yeah kinda defeats the purpose of it, if it takes you out of it during any interaction.

[viscid wedge]

I forget half the "moves" i'm supposed to remember and resort to just blocking/parrying and smashing R1.

[dire pilot]

I have had to switch back to preset D for RR - preset E completely breaks any heavily shadowed environment like woods or indoors

[barren pasture]

Regarding puddles, whats up with this reflection of the cloud in the puddle 💀
thats not a recording artifact

[wispy crown]

Oh really? What happens with Preset E there?

[dire pilot]

there's shadows where there shouldn't be any and every material gets black artifacts all over them

[wispy crown]

Ah that's annoying

[dire pilot]

there's also constant artifacting on Kliff's hair in preset E

[lilac urchin]

animations look kool on video

[golden scaffold]

Is D the default the game uses?

[dire pilot]

yeah, D is the default most games use

[lilac urchin]

i would not change from D

[dire pilot]

if you're just using the Nvidia app, it'll be using D

[lilac urchin]

on RE9 E never looked better

[outer furnace]

hello, can I find the latest version here or is the one listed on the github (https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods#) always up to date (or up to hour i guess in this case)

[broken dirge]

pins

[viscid wedge]

pinned

[lilac urchin]

is pinned and is also on the page

[crude marsh]

its quite difficult to get the game to load a modified file

[naive terrace]

So, is this "fix" better on or off?

[analog charm]

personal preference i guess

[faint bobcat]

[scenic adder]

Depends on how bothered you are by any of the parallax artefacts

I'd prefer keeping it on, it looks too flat without that

[scenic adder]

🟦

[hardy owl]

What am i watching here?

[analog parrot]

neon lights :D

[faint bobcat]

broken decomp

[naive terrace]

ty I will test a bit with it

[low crane]

This game is Pick Your Poison: The game.

[hardy owl]

Fixable or not fixable?

[scenic adder]

Looks perfect to me, idk what you mean (reminds me of a Skyrim ENB)

[narrow frost]

Now just add some aggressive DoF focus and blur. 👍

[dire pilot]

it's really just a beautiful game

[barren pasture]

omg it really just terrible

[worldly vapor]

the noise and boiling

[scenic adder]

I couldn't play it without RR, and even with RR it clearly needs some work

[worldly vapor]

[rotund raptor]

need a camera mod asap, I feel like its way to high

[dire pilot]

just don't turn off all the lights in a house lol

[fresh field]

you can zoom in multiple times

[outer furnace]

my bitdefender apparently thinks this reshade addon carries a teddy virus lol

[naive terrace]

check this bug

[rotund raptor]

im aware, im talking about the camera being to high

[worthy stream]

happens often when there are links

@ azno

links to kofi or whatever

you can upload it to virus total

[naive terrace]

yo bro

[worldly vapor]

helo

[worldly vapor]

wtf is this with RR?

[naive jackal]

So Soul Gas was basically the 360/PS3 gen where any white material on screen (Assassins Creed) would barbecue your eyes?

[worldly vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flashbang-gif-16362445421478761717

[naive terrace]

yeah lmao

[worldly vapor]

damn i didnt think it would be that noisy even with RR

[naive terrace]

I think it was bc changing settings and the game freaked out

[barren pasture]

why isnt this game "canceled" like Akham Knight did? I mean AK at least worked great on consoles...

[worldly vapor]

isnt that game considered the best batman game?

[fresh smelt]

that was from a big publisher with something to lose

[barren pasture]

cant say that PA is an indie company either

[fresh smelt]

yeah but they aren't warner brothers

[dire pilot]

I'd say PA has more money for game development than WB does

[fresh smelt]

arkham knight was literally unplayable

[outer furnace]

so I set the ingame peak brightness and the renodx peak brightness sliders to the same value I suppose?

[fresh smelt]

this isn't

[worn ibex]

jfc i didn't know it was that bad

[barren pasture]

i did play it on launch on PC, it was ok, seriously. Just disable nvidia gameworks stuff and youre good

[naive jackal]

@fresh smelt Wasn't the PC version also massing graphical features and effects that were present in the console versions

[tranquil estuary]

I played it on launch too, well, with the teens framerates and irratic crashes.

[fresh smelt]

man remember driving the bat mobile lol, that was an absolute nightmare
game froze every 2 seconds

[worn ibex]

is this with RR 💀

[crude marsh]

the clouds are EXTREMELY low quality and rely heavily on dithering

[worn ibex]

because you do not remember how AWFUL arkham knight's launch was. It legitimately horribly optimized

[naive jackal]

Same team that did the horrible TLoU port iirc 🤣

[worn ibex]

guys i think kevin has been silent because this game broke him

[dire pilot]

of course~

[dire pilot]

that was Iron Galaxy I think?

[barren pasture]

on this clip game looks gorgeous

[wispy crown]

Yeah and the scale on internal resolution and don't work well with upscaling. Wish the clouds would be scaled with output res instead.

[dire pilot]

the game looks mostly okay except for when you're indoors or lots of shadows

[crude marsh]

except for the part where literally the entire scene changes 3 seconds in

[teal pumice]

this game uses all kinds of secret sauce for optimization

1/8 res for every effect

[fresh smelt]

i was looking at an apple seed in a shop
it was just a brown smudge on the counter

[teal pumice]

less than 1 meter draw distance

[naive jackal]

@dire pilot Aye lol, missing rain droplets on Batmans suit in AK and with TLoU characters covered in water for no reason

[naive terrace]

RenoDX WIP version makes HDR even better

[crude marsh]

1 meter draw distance truly takes the optimization cake

[fresh smelt]

huge lego tress and 8bit waterfalls are a close 2nd

[lament nymph]

bosses in this game sucks, there are mechanics that they want you to do but don't tell you what to do

[crude marsh]

I think this game would look amazing if you simply removed your eyes

[lament nymph]

unintuitive, bosses don't play by your rules

[fresh smelt]

thisf wojrkned

[worldly vapor]

sounds amazing ngl

[lament nymph]

this is more of a straight forward rpg than an action game, they want you to spam potions more than being good

[worldly vapor]

no hand holding

[dire pilot]

I was shocked when I first saw a waterfall - the water itself looks okay and then the waterfalls look like a waterfall in a stop motion film where it's just cotton

[naive jackal]

Oh that's right i came here for the wip file but ended up spending 2 hours just reading through the page and laughing at the memes

[fresh smelt]

oh and dont forget the rain water running down the roof texture
thats a good one if you havent seen it yet

[dire pilot]

oh god, whenever it rains, the effect of water running off any material is funny

[lament nymph]

no handholding means you are given a tool and expect you to learn about it yourself, this game gives you all the tools but there's just 1 specific tool that works and there's no way to tell which tool it is

there's literally a go board puzzle, for ppl that dont know what go is... especially ppl in the states

[outer furnace]

bro you should have just beaten an ancient game like MGS2 in my case for the first time right before jumping into crimson desert, no control scheme or unfairness can possibly come close to the abomination that are PS1/2 era games

[lament nymph]

well it's a type of chess

I played GO before so I knew to put the stone there

but the game doesn't tell you what it is, I was like hmm this looks like a giant go board

very unituitive

[stone comet]

I saw theres a puzzle where you have to stab into it whereas I don't think you've ever used that before ever 😭

[fresh smelt]

i missed the tutorial on how to use the telekinesis power and ran around for 10 minutes wonder wtf to do lol

[barren pasture]

game def has some very neat little details and overall looks pretty. It feels like it just needed some more time to polish and recondisder doing some sloptimizations

[crude marsh]

unfortunately they would basically have to rewrite a majority of the rendering to fix it

[dire pilot]

oh, the boss that has archers all around you but they're outside the arena so the game is yelling at you get back in the arena when you try to take them out

[barren pasture]

at least they can potentially improve UI and UX

[lament nymph]

there are some neat puzzles here and there

[fresh smelt]

they probably shouldnt have announced it went gold 3 months ago lol
i mean i'm enjoying it for what it is tbh
quite fun

[lament nymph]

and some are just straight up ... ugh

[crude marsh]

ok.... did I finally load a save with modified restir???

[lament nymph]

bosses are spam ur pots and do ur thing, and there are quest items that can you can't get rid of, can't store, once u do a quest they stay in your inventory forever

AND THEY TAKE SPACE

[naive terrace]

In-game screenshot tool is broken LMAOO

[lament nymph]

some quest items u can just sell once the quest is over

some stays in ur inventory forever

[barren pasture]

hdr on reno bug maybe?

[lament nymph]

this is horrible game design

[worldly vapor]

wtf

[naive terrace]

nah, I tested without anything, Pics were in black

[outer furnace]

brother got early access to azure desert