Arknights + AK Endfield

[woeful raven]

doesnt matter

[strong flare]

hmm

so endfield does not crash

but I see this error still

i see this in endfield

[rustic echo]

I mean it loaded

[strong flare]

hmm but that injector failure is bothering me

[woeful raven]

if it loads

then it loads

[rustic echo]

pretty much that's reshade

[woeful raven]

dont worry about it

[rustic echo]

maybe ini settings but you're not bypassing

[woeful raven]

if its bothering you too much

then just dont use it

i get random loading errors too

[strong flare]

oh ok

im not trying to be annoying

so if I see the renodx menu

it means success

[rustic echo]

it's just spi, he's a tsundere

what he really means is, i'm glad it's working! my instructions I worked hard on, needs more clarifiation

[strong flare]

another question, what is the highlights setting?

[rustic echo]

color grading menu

so the top par pertains to your monitor settings

[strong flare]

oh derp

i see i need to select intermediate

[rustic echo]

your peak is your monitor, your game brightness is usually around 100-200 depending

UI is whatever don't kill your eyes

then color grading is basically post processing

[strong flare]

interesting

it does look different

[woeful raven]

the instructions are clear enough

if you fail with that then its a you issue

as demonstrated here

[woeful raven]

dont worry

👍

if you dont have an hdr monitor

or have a bad one

better to follow the sdr guide i have in the FAQ

[rustic echo]

generally if it's SDR, you can kinda find the same info in your monitor specs or reviewer like rting

and just wing the game brightness

UI brightness is like as low as you can go

[strong flare]

ah i do have an OLED HDR. playing with contrast definitely makes a difference

[woeful raven]

this game by default already looks fine

i dont recommend going further than what I already stated in the faq

[strong flare]

yeah 55 looks good enough

[rustic echo]

I heard OLED can be a bit finicky in various HDR modes, but since default is HDR10, pretty much all settings is locked out monitor side

[strong flare]

though screenshots look different

[woeful raven]

take screenshot

with reshade's

built in screenshot

tool

[strong flare]

ah derp

need to change where it saves them

[rustic echo]

it's in the setting menu of reshade end of the menus

[strong flare]

yeah

anyways thanks for the mod

its subtle but kind of neat

[rustic echo]

I think real AO is more then subtle, but each their own

[idle notch]

holy so cute
must protect 😭

[serene bridge]

mods worth it just to remove that mask

[rustic echo]

but then you can't keep going with the deathmask joke

[strong flare]

which tonemapper do you use?

assuming renodrt?

[rustic echo]

you have to use renodrt if you want the color grading settings

and bt2020 = hdr10

[woeful raven]

there's no other tonemapper

if you want to use it with hdr

vanilla is not a tonemapper

[frigid mural]

Is it normal if I enable the reshade before UI option and any shader at same time, the yellow part would looks washed out?

So in the picture I'm only using the befor/after shader, I think all the orange/yellow HDR content looks strange

[median robin]

You should probably move the reshade64.dll out of the game directory and change the inject library path, but then again other people make it work while in the game directory so who knows

But if it works it works I guess

[strong vault]

shader might not be hdr compatible maybe

[balmy ember]

Somebody please explain to me all the meta jokes like cum glass and McDonald's I want to keep on track

[strong vault]

vanilla glass have white hue like ... cum

mcdonalds bottom is new hue correction I believe called macleod boynton

[balmy ember]

What

I low-key regret not keeping up with this game because following the development of this mod was probably more fun than the game itself, but sadly just don't have the time for another gacha slop commitment

[gloomy tulip]

Grass has a max AO intensity buffer I think forge removed that limit

[covert jetty]

Don't worry, keeping on track doesn't make it any easier to understand

[tidal finch]

OG amnesia story was "You were a god awaken in time of dire straits. But your capsule systems broke and we had to wake you immediately, that caused your memory loss"

I have no idea why they scrapped it

It's the perfect setup for some mystery background for Endmin

The new story totally skips why you have amnesia and how/why did you wake up

[rustic echo]

eh? i thought they did a pretty good job with memory lost, and even made it's own character development arc (if not a bit generic). This part i had no issues with

the parts I have issues with is...how bland the writing was for v4 msq

[tidal finch]

I didn't play a lot after the first 2 hours so maybe I missed something tbh

but the old intro Vs new intro

Skipped this

[rustic echo]

they go through the tropes of a dying civ, and didn't try to flavor it enough

[rustic echo]

I mean they litterally used endmin's memory lost an entire lore/backstory/current main mystery gimmick and just add icing on top, character storys also revolve around the idenity and memories

I don't know how much more they can do to not make that point more important

the themes are pretty on point, if not again generic

it's not like they're bad writers more like the got bad orders

In fact the whole resonator vs Endmin parallels...just puts more attention to detail to the writer's credit....now if only they stop trying to use every generic setup they can possibly shove into this game.

[dusky wave]

We have a bunch of meme words

Pisswise - piecewise (it's a maths function) that's used by a few stuff in the code like Reinhard

Cum Glass - I picked up on it from Cyberpunk 2077, when you turned RT / PT on, glass and other transparencies became cloudy so modders started calling it cum glass

Mcdonalds Bottom / Mac10 Boytoy - ShortFuse added a new hue correction method Macleod Boynton that looks better than OKflab (OKLab)

CB00000fers - cbuffers e.g constant buffer, contains data in the form of a number value that gets passed on and used by shaders

Termite Spleen - Hermite Spline / BT. 2390 is a tonemapper

Tonesniffer - nonsense coined by me

[sudden nest]

holy brainrot

[spiral imp]

Reading the convos here with all the meme words is part of the fun

[sturdy osprey]

yea i was sometimes wondering

whether fortnite kids are making renodx

😭

[safe swallow]

mac10 boytoy is sure a name

[dusky wave]

Theres also "by luminance with per channel chrominance"

So me and Dio constantly shit post

Zoominance with per fannel gloominance by lolimance

Basically, if you look at the current gamma correction setting

If you go into character menus

and switch between off, 2.2 and 2.4

you'll see that the Endfiled yellow UI element

goes from yellow to an orange/yellow

"by luminance with per channel chrominance" gamma correction would solve that

[dusky wave]

Are they talking about how the character UI becomes bright?

Thats just how the game is once unclamped for SDR

I am guessing it is in reference to character UI and team comp UI

becasue those arent controlled by UI brightness but rather game brightness

[strong vault]

Yeah I think so

These ones

[dusky wave]

ahh

What having a bright ass white menu but clamped to SDR does to a mf

[strong vault]

If he did "fixed" these menus to look more SDR

His game is going to look like SDR too

[dusky wave]

All you can do is lower exposure

which will globally affect all other scenes

Menus do use a different Uberpost

[strong vault]

Yeah I decided to just deal with it

[dusky wave]

so we could lower exposure only for menus

that or maybe add a dark mode

[strong vault]

That would be insanely based

[dusky wave]

I specifically removed them because in most areas they look like ass

aight I will add a separate toggle for them to maintain creative intent

[twin haven]

[dusky wave]

I am confused

this doesnt seem that bright

ahh wait thats PAC menu

yh ok, so archive menu counts as scene for some reason

[woeful raven]

Fart shift

[woeful raven]

can someone tell the retard to use sdr mode if you dont have hdr monitor

[dusky wave]

oh so thats the problem

[dusky wave]

[woeful raven]

once again

i am reminded of the guy who made the reshade installer

[dusky wave]

Gooners be like

[serene bridge]

reading literacy in brainrot zoomer gen

[sturdy osprey]

Just give them chatgpt prompt

[woeful raven]

why do you think i come off as civilized and definitely not unhinged here

[dusky wave]

wtf are these user names

[sturdy osprey]

You would think normal people would use reno

[fiery raft]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-computer-smile-yellow-smile-surprised-gif-26981337

[fleet socket]

forge when will you add ambient conclusion?

[sudden nest]

asking the real questions here

[woeful raven]

we know your credit card info already

no need to act surprised

[dusky wave]

I am more likely to learn and add Spectral rendering then I am to add Ambient conclusion

**If you dont know what Spectral Rendering is... Its more advanced than PBR since you're not simulating RGB but simulating rendering light across the spectrum, you can layer several material types (Conductor, Dialectric) for complex materials **

One day

We will see this in gaming

I guess Nbidia wants to cope this to us via Neural materials

[fleet socket]

also forge if you could check out why optiscaler fsr4 broke since the GTAO improvements id appreciate it 🥺

i dont want to cope with xess anymore...

[dusky wave]

como?

GTAO breaks FSR4

[strong vault]

forge add path tracing for 3050 pls

[dusky wave]

AyyyMD breaking GTAO now

[fleet socket]

it doesnt. but the addon with the gtao improvements broke fsr4 for some reason

#1440801914165002322 message

[strong vault]

blame_AMD

[dusky wave]

wtf is going on in that vid

MVs are just gone

and everything is jittering

So the addon as a whole breaks FSR4

or can you toggle back to vanilal code

[fleet socket]

MVs are present (they're the debug view in the left). right view shows "predicted blend factor"

yes. i need to disable the addon entirely for it to work properly again. just disabling the improvements does nothing

[fleet socket]

blend factor computed by FSR
the bright purple parts highlight areas of low blend factor with history texture, signaling a detected reactivity area.

[dusky wave]

Is this the addons fault or Enhancers fault?

[fleet socket]

how should i debug that? the addon was working fine before the GTAO stuff.

[dusky wave]

first remove enhancer

so you run native GTAO UAVS

I still have zero idea how GTAO can be breaking FSR4 globally

[fleet socket]

ahh ok. yeah it works fine with the enhancer alone. i also tried reno without the enhancer, and the issue remained

again i dont think it's the GTAO necessarily? iirc the addon update with GTAO also had a bunch of other changes

[dusky wave]

Time to go back through the commits

[fleet socket]

i think this is the one that broke it. let me try it again to be sure and the version before that #1440801914165002322 message

[dusky wave]

**Inb4 this is another example of AyyMD blowing up because its turns out AyyyMD acktually follows the shader spec of SM 5 very specifically to the point that certain Cboooooofer changes in .asm cant happen without the whole thing blowing up

Meanwhile Nbidia doesnt give a fuck because they just bypass the issue entirely in the driver **

Taps sign

[fleet socket]

yeah still borked. let me try the one before that

[dusky wave]

Tech Test is a zip bomb that blows up FSR 4

[fleet socket]

real

[dusky wave]

I added some stuff to the blit shader

so maybe

I dunno

[fleet socket]

i see you and spiwar werent kidding about the birus...

[fiery raft]

dx11 is the real zip bomb .. can we ever expect this to be fixed by the devs qwq

[glacial kayak]

No

[dusky wave]

VK is also a zip bomb

and Relfex doesnt work

[fiery raft]

fr? thought only dx11

[dusky wave]

theyre both shit

[woeful raven]

rewrite unity's thread management they said

it will be easy they said

[dusky wave]

Every gacha slopper loves fucking with UI

constantly turning reflex on and off

which leaks mem and resources

[glacial kayak]

The only correct state is off

[fiery raft]

does the game at least have a functioning gc that frees memory if theres no extra space to allocate?

[dusky wave]

If you dont open UI/menus

the game doesnt increase in mem that much

[fleet socket]

yeah this one works fine #1440801914165002322 message

[dusky wave]

the moment you open UIs a bunch of times

fast travel

fucking over

and whole thing starts leaking

[safe swallow]

no reflex no problems

[glacial kayak]

Is this only related to reflex then

[dusky wave]

🤷‍♂️

[glacial kayak]

That might be why I never noticed it since I always turn reflex off

[dusky wave]

Time for me to add Tracy to debug

Mfs need to add a whole has Tracy debooooger to see wtf is borked with gacha shit

abysmal

[safe swallow]

but yeah I've no memory leaking on dx11 and rdna2 with taau

[fleet socket]

it still leaks on AMD but very slowly lol. i thought it didnt leak at all, but after leaving the game open for a good couple of hours, my system was almost oom

[glacial kayak]

Being blind to input lag continues to be the greatest gift biology has ever given me

[fleet socket]

simply play with a controller

[glacial kayak]

I don't notice it on mouse either

[dusky wave]

I will try and test disabling Reflex

but the issue might still be with streamline

AMD sloppers cant use streamline

so issue never occurs on your end

Finally AMD winning

[fleet socket]

i also noticed that the debug view is not completely pink, it still shows some changes. so i suppose the blend factors fsr4 is looking for are completley blown out or something?

[woeful raven]

#1423918603035476041 has deboog

pmnox probably has something that nukes reflex entirely

[dusky wave]

Time to add

might fix Vulkan shittery as well

atrocious really

need a trillion addons and tools to fix gacha

muhhhh custom engine

[fleet socket]

to be fair thats most pc games

[dusky wave]

muhh well optimised

[glacial kayak]

How to fix video games:

• delete streamline

[fleet socket]

a friend of mine wanted to play mgs delta and spent nearly an hour getting all the mods and addons up

[dusky wave]

We've spent +100hrs working on this addon

rookie numbers

[fleet socket]

forge, where can i get the source code for the addon? never messed with reno, but i wanna try reverting the commits with the gtao stuff to make sure that's indeed the issue

[woeful raven]

https://github.com/spiwar/renodx/tree/endfield

[fleet socket]

thanks

[woeful raven]

btw

how does luma have fg now

dx11 on 12?

[dusky wave]

yes

Izeuh has added it

still testing but its in

[woeful raven]

next patch is on march 14

let's see what they add in

[sturdy osprey]

You mean substrate in unreal engine

[fleet socket]

https://fixupx.com/Chun_Grandfa/status/2023807485052940728

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[sturdy osprey]

[dusky wave]

[dusky wave]

No quite, subtrate still uses RGB

Spectral rendering simulates light wavelengths

[sturdy osprey]

Well substrate is the closest you gonna get

It already costs a fuckton of instructions to run complex shaders in it

[dusky wave]

Cant wait for substrate complex materials with SW lumen

[sturdy osprey]

Sw lumen is pointless

[dusky wave]

because FUCKING DEVS REFUSE TO COOKED THEIR BUILDS WITH HW LUMEN

[sturdy osprey]

oh yea i was wondering why tf games dont have hw lumen

[dusky wave]

because SW lumen is the default

and pissstation 5 cant into it

[sturdy osprey]

Why use fake probes when real traces probes cost the same

[dusky wave]

HW lumen costs the same as SW

but looks a trillion times better

fucking joke

I hate SW lumen with a passion

utter shitpost

[sturdy osprey]

Tbf last time i had issues with hw lumen i couldnt run it in editor

It just crashed

maybe amd bad problem

[dusky wave]

5.7 or .8 are retiring SW lumen finally

replacement is irradience caching

[sturdy osprey]

8

Irradiance is in 5.8

[dusky wave]

finally devs will be forced to ship with HW RT

so Lazorr can fix slop

[glacial kayak]

HW lumen is like 10% more expensive

[dusky wave]

oh nooo

[sturdy osprey]

That will ruin everything

[dusky wave]

guess I should have light leak every instead with SW lumen

[glacial kayak]

But not 10% better

[sturdy osprey]

Fuck light leak

The fucking noise you get

On sw lumen

[dusky wave]

its diabolical

• Doesnt properly trace BVH
• Noise out the ass
• Abysmal accumulation
• Dogshit light leak

terrible

UE5 was 110% rushed out becasue of pissstation 5 and EggsBox

[woeful raven]

kevin are you channeling yourself through forge

[glacial kayak]

Yes

[dusky wave]

Anyways

enough of the UE malding

back to malding GTAO for AyyMD users

[fleet socket]

damn, tried installing the windows SDK in a VM and it straight up crashed it lol

[glacial kayak]

Sign that you need an rtx 5090 and windows 11 asap

[stable lava]

isn't hwlumen always available unless explicitly disabled?

[woeful raven]

depends on if its included in the build

like how you can attempt to enable wuwa RT even before the official implementation

but it just won't launch because the stuff needed is not cooked inside the biuld

[stable lava]

i meant more like, devs do go out of their way to remove hwlumen, or does it still have to be enabled in the project settings, even if hidden away?

[dusky wave]

You need to cook it into the final ship build of the game

Lazorr explained it

if its not compiled into the game

he cant activate it

You're just stuck with SW slop

Why do some games have HW lumen cooked (even if they dont allow it in the menu settings) and other dont I dunno

super duper secret optimisation strat perhaps

We now need to wait until 2027-8 for devs to start shipping HW lumen only titles

[glacial kayak]

You mean 2030

[dusky wave]

Never

becasue PC will be gone soon

No more dGPUs

[glacial kayak]

Wdym, GeForce now will be fine

[dusky wave]

everything going into data center

[dusky wave]

good one

[woeful raven]

joe

[fleet socket]

reminder that apparently sony will be delaying the ps6 to 2029 due to the current memory crisis

[dusky wave]

I read some Chinese report by mem ceo

said the whole 2030s will be booked

its actaully giga over for us

back to ps2 stencil shadows we go

[woeful raven]

#💬lounge message

How long until this lost child finds their way here

[dusky wave]

The great filtering

[fleet socket]

err how can i tell cmake to just compile just one game instead of all of them?

[woeful raven]

cmake menu

instead of target builds in preset

choose endfield

[fleet socket]

thanks

[dusky wave]

I think I know whats going on

I modified GTAO temporal shader

[woeful raven]

we need the GTAO temporal changes though

or else the thing will ghost like a dog

might as well not use it if its gonna ghost

kek w

[dusky wave]

Yes but maybe FSR4 is specially, something something it doesnt like casues issue let me see

I might just need to rewrite something

and everyone will be appy

[woeful raven]

AMD u*ers smh

[toxic mortar]

How to make this work with optiscaler?

[fleet socket]

it should just work

easiest way is probably to rename the optiscaler dll to d3d12, open the optiscaler ini file, and set the reshade injector to true

then you leave the reshade dll as Reshade64.dll

[toxic mortar]

I did that, but now i can't see renodx as addon

[fleet socket]

is the addon file in the same folder as the reshade dll?

[toxic mortar]

yes, it worked before, but not with opti for some reason

using the latest renodx

it works if i remove opti from the chain

[fleet socket]

yeah reverting f07c327 fixed the issue, but also, that commit does a lot lol

[toxic mortar]

i did a few things, now works what didn't before

Renamed d3d12 to opti, to remove it and reshade to d3d12 -> worked
rendamed opti to winmm and d3d12 to reshade 64 -> worked for a moment, then anticheat terminated it
renamed winmm to d3d12 ending up where i started and now it works.

can y'all recommend settings for reno in endfield?

[woeful raven]

defaults are fine

if you want a slightly more punchy image

contrast 55

highlights 55

saturation 55

[dusky wave]

One last thing for you to try

• Add back the most recent version of the addon

then use devkit

go through the devkit and swap shaders back to originals

does this fix FSR4 shenanigans or not

[fleet socket]

ok let me try

[dusky wave]

maybe?????? shader decomp messed something up

that only affects FSR 4

[toxic mortar]

is that how it should look? the colors do seem a little underwhelming

[fleet socket]

did you try this

[woeful raven]

Hdr is not about punching colors up to 999%

If u want that use rtx hdr

[fleet socket]

is there an easier way to switch shaders than going one by one lol

[dusky wave]

You can unload all of them

via the top button

this will revert them all to vanilla

assuming that fixes the issue

[toxic mortar]

I don't really have much hdr experience, so idk. I use srgb calibration as default, so I'm used to normal saturation, nothing crazy.

[woeful raven]

Use the preset i suggested

Also if you dont have a decent hdr monitot

I would also suggest using sdr mode

[fleet socket]

nope it did not fix the issue

[dusky wave]

[fleet socket]

unloaded all the shaders and the issue remains

[strong vault]

kekw~2

[toxic mortar]

i have qd-oled

[dusky wave]

Did it 100% unload?

the game should be in SDR now

[fleet socket]

i did see stuff visually change, yeah. any log file i can check to be sure?

[dusky wave]

click snapshot

you will see a tab that will list shaders

it will either say addon or original

[fleet socket]

yeah some still say addon

i guess i should change them one-by-one then?

[dusky wave]

yes

I am suspecting once again its the GTAO shader code

FSR4 has some shenaigans about needing very strict temporal accumulation stuff

DLSS doesnt care becasue Tensor cores go brrrr

neither does XeSS

[toxic mortar]

any tips about monitor presets and what i should set in reshade as peak brightness?

[woeful raven]

If youre using hdr400 trueblack set 400 as peak

Peak 1000 mode then set 1000 as peak

[fleet socket]

issue remains

[woeful raven]

Game brightness is your average brightness of the game

If you were playing in 100 nits sdr calibrated before you move to hdr

Then your game brightness should be 100

UI brightness is whatever you feel comfortable enough so u can see the ui clearly

[dusky wave]

@fleet socket

• toggle off improved GTAO

this will force native shader loading

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave what if we remove grading sliders and hardcode two presets

Default and HDR+

[dusky wave]

Why dont we remove the addon as a whole

[scenic comet]

b-b-b-but mah sliders?

[dusky wave]

wont need to install reshade

[toxic mortar]

thx!
helps a lot!

[fleet socket]

remove the game

[dusky wave]

no more issues

[woeful raven]

Real

We should do that

If you need hdr

Just imagine the highlights

From your brain

[dusky wave]

RTX HDR

its sooo goood brooo

[fleet socket]

still broken assuming i don't have to change anything in the settings lol

[dusky wave]

so toggle off improved GTAO

then restart the gaame

[fleet socket]

ah

ok

i didnt toggle it off and restart

i assume its this toggle instead of a new one?

after a restart

[woeful raven]

Why dont you use hdr10

Are you using this in sdr

[fleet socket]

yes 😔

[woeful raven]

Oh

Let me see if i still have the fsr4 dll

You can test fsr4 on nvidia that way

[fleet socket]

i have int8 here

[woeful raven]

Better dm that one

[fleet socket]

fair enough lol

[dusky wave]

[glacial kayak]

Ackshually your normalized visual field will take care of that for you

[dusky wave]

Bruh

pls dont Troy

or Lottes

[glacial kayak]

12 bit sdr for normalized visual field and not getting the 20% performance loss from hdr

[dusky wave]

"Acktually... if you close your blinds and sit in a pure cave which has 5 F stops, SDR will look the same has HDR"

[woeful raven]

And then hdr will look like XDDDR

[dusky wave]

OKFuck will hue shift SDR to look like HDR

[brittle abyss]

I'm currently running
Contrast 52
Saturation 52
Highlights 49
Shadows 71
I like it a lot. Gets you the tiny bit more contrast I think it needs while really preserving original balance and shadow detail. I would recommend.

[fleet socket]

i nuked everything ao-related from the addon (afaik, deleted the ao folder and all the entries in addon.cpp) and the issue persists

so i assume its something else?

i'll keep removing stuff from that commit until it works

[gloomy tulip]

Your frametime graph

[fleet socket]

its just gamescope memes. nothing to worry about

[woeful raven]

the solution is to stop using fsr4

[sudden nest]

buy nvidia

simple

[spiral imp]

Say that to past me

[gloomy tulip]

So you are only using for SDR? Maybe start ripping out the HDR stuff like cbuffer values and tonemap shaders

[rustic echo]

it is spi's old mcdonald song? isn't it?

[fleet socket]

no. i think ive found the issue but its so fucking stupid i need to triple check to make sure it's actually it

[gloomy tulip]

What do you suspect?

[fleet socket]

ok, from what i can tell the issue is when the ShaderInjectData struct in shared.h gets too large. why is that an issue? i have no fucking idea
i can remove everything but the float variables in that struct and the problem persists, but if i trim it a bit, it works fine

i see this. maybe it overflows or something??? i dont fucking know

#ifndef __cplusplus
#if ((__SHADER_TARGET_MAJOR == 5 && __SHADER_TARGET_MINOR >= 1) || __SHADER_TARGET_MAJOR >= 6)
cbuffer shader_injection : register(b13, space50) {
#elif (__SHADER_TARGET_MAJOR < 5) || ((__SHADER_TARGET_MAJOR == 5) && (__SHADER_TARGET_MINOR < 1))
cbuffer shader_injection : register(b13) {
#endif
  ShaderInjectData shader_injection : packoffset(c0);
}

[gloomy tulip]

Maybe it’s optiscaler doesn’t like huge cbuffer idk

Or it thinks that cbuffer is used for dlss somehow

[fleet socket]

yeah, if i add a bunch of random junk into the struct in commit #37b1a41 the issue also happens

probably a weird optiscaler issue then

[royal solar]

Does ur game have weird stutter when opening menu as well?

With opti

[fleet socket]

yes thats to be expected. the game disables dlss on menus so opti has to rehook every time

which causes some lag

[royal solar]

smh, yea no fixes then

Is annoying considering the game requires u to interact with the menu many times

Stuck with TAA

[woeful raven]

its actually good

cause the game actually turns off rendering

if you open the big menu

wuwa nukes your gpu even when you're in menus

[gloomy tulip]

But it doesnt turn off rendering when switching menu (like when you switch maps in world map menu)

Any switching will just continue the rendering in the background for a second for some reason

[woeful raven]

ya its weird

[strong flare]

heh just realized im getting the CPU overheat iss

the potential workaround at the moment is using vulkan so i guess no reno for me atm

hmm, though perhaps i can udnerclock my cpu

[woeful raven]

restart your game

[gloomy tulip]

Its random, the game sometimes double its cpu usage

So I know no one will ever use vulkan because no skin mod, but I'd appreciate if anyone could test my SDR addon for vulkan that implements full res GTAO + some other improvements

https://github.com/mlleemiles/renodx/releases/tag/endfield-20260215

[woeful raven]

I could implement into hdr path

Nothing blocking it right

[gloomy tulip]

Shouldnt be anything but I didn't make a toggle for the full res GTAO since I don't see the point for doing it if you already use the addon

[rustic echo]

nothing wrong with multiple reno addons~

and we all going to end up using vulkan at some point

[gloomy tulip]

I dont think mods will ever be avaliable in vulkan

Like the skin mods

[idle notch]

noooo
hoodie pengmin 🥀

[dusky wave]

Holy shit, I suspected this was an issue but it sounded too dumb to be true

AyyyMD can't into too many cboooofers

[grizzled saddle]

You do have a lot of cboooofers

I don't think vulkan will work with this amount

[tidal finch]

don't check
Don't check the literacy in the US schools

Worst mistake of my life
||It's ~30%||

[gloomy tulip]

Hmmm so it couldnt be injected as regular cbuffers because of "set" index?

In vulkan

[grizzled saddle]

Theres a limit to vulkans push constants

256 bytes is average, actual limit depends on GPU/drivers

[gloomy tulip]

Yeah thats why I mentioned regular instead of push constants

[gloomy tulip]

The spec in vulkan documents is confusing, it says the 128/256 limit is the Min limit

Not max

[grizzled saddle]

It ensures you have at least 128/256

idk if max limit is different

I havent tried modifying regular buffers so idk, but push constants are rarely used by games so it seemed simpler

Aside from emulators

[gloomy tulip]

In vulkan you couldnt specific a set index (opposed to dx register space) when creating pipeline layout so a generic shared.h might not work for all shaders

Dunno how cbuffers can be bound in other ways in vulkan

[dusky wave]

Rip no more rendering improvements

Well the AO stuff we can remove

Since we've found good values now

[gloomy tulip]

I asked AI about dx11 stuff it says you can use 64KB cbuffers in dx11

Vulkan is different because the implementation right now uses push constants

[dusky wave]

@fleet socket if you remove all the AO related cbooofers does FSR4 work then

Not improved GTAO

But all the other stuff

[gloomy tulip]

I wonder if its because FSR4 using dx12 or vulkan interop

[dusky wave]

There's maybe 12 of them so I might as well remove them

[grizzled herald]

Dear Hypergryph,
Mem leaks fix when?

[woeful raven]

turn off reflex

[dusky wave]

[woeful raven]

You dont need reflex in a hold left click simulator

[grizzled herald]

Turning reflex off mitigates the VRAM leak or completely removes it? My VRAMps up like crazy usually. But don't really feel any stutter or texture issues if I keep playing with it capped.

[sturdy osprey]

i got 13gb of vram usage

and it stays that way

[twin haven]

even reflec off?

[sturdy osprey]

ddint try

[dusky wave]

fuk, I will need to redo the deferred shaders again

Since cbuffers will change

[sturdy osprey]

i dont even know whether reflex works on my amd gpu

no idea how to check i just turn it on and trust in optiscaler

[dusky wave]

@fleet socket test this

Removed 18 cboooofers

(Kevin would not be proud at the slop)

[dusky wave]

Tested Vulkan again (with reflex off)

Still abysmal

1% and 0.1% are 75% lower compared to DX11

My 1% lows in DX11 are in the 110s

Under Vulkan it goes down into the 30s

Constant micro stuttering still

[strong vault]

gork fix vulkan

[sturdy osprey]

vulkan so close to metal

that it removes fps

[stark shuttle]

what exactly are the issues with fsr4?
because i've been using it with all the improvements in renodx and the enhancements from the fps unlocker and don't notice any issues with the graphics or frametimes

[dusky wave]

#1440801914165002322 message

Reno addon since GTAO improvements were added broke FSR 4

Causes FSR 4 to completely break with shimmering everywhere as anti aliasing doesnt apply

[dusky wave]

I removed cboooooofers here in hopes of solving the problem

[gloomy tulip]

Well they mentioned its issue with int8 FSR4

not fp8

[dusky wave]

oh

That might explain why some do have it whilst others dont

[sturdy osprey]

int8 is apparently the same as fp8

[stark shuttle]

i am on fp8 though and have no issues at all with fsr4

[gloomy tulip]

Well I think they are also on linux? IDK

[sturdy osprey]

idk what version of endfield reno im on

my addon is 5951kb

[stark shuttle]

i'm running the newest pinned one

[gloomy tulip]

I finished most missions in my journal, now im contemplating life with my underdeveloped factories

[sturdy osprey]

i rushed factory in wuling early on

need refining mats

i tried newest version

and works fine for me

i dont have any mald with aliasing

[fleet socket]

yeah this works

lol

[dusky wave]

[glacial kayak]

the solution to all problems with video games

[twin haven]

this is blinding i like this giv settings or face consequences 🔫

[dusky wave]

Thats SDR

[glacial kayak]

proving again that the normalized sdr viewing field is superior

[twin haven]

tf i was viewing in phone

[fleet socket]

lol

[gloomy tulip]

Bruh this boss is so hard 😭

[rustic echo]

use a range spammer, she becomes ez

[gloomy tulip]

Zoners are boring 😭

[rustic echo]

your pride or your drops, chose one

[gloomy tulip]

I mean Im super underleveled for LV3 rn

Couldnt even deplete the core's full health when its exposed

[rustic echo]

i don't think a fresh 80 can, usually 2 rounds

need some grind to go along with that

[gloomy tulip]

I dont have yvonne range spam too

[rustic echo]

sheep spam is what I use

they made character swapping during combat...a tactic...that should be used

[gloomy tulip]

Only just started building a fire team

[rustic echo]

ya...i mean the combat system is...kinda ehh, but it's not hoyo, copy and paste, and actually has some depth...sorta....you have to actually put thought into, assuming you're not using brute force streamer credit card rolling

that boss...you're suppose to ration your skill an combo skills to stop her circles

swap between range and melee characters depending on her phase

and save burst for oh crap/burst windows

or just...just brute force with uber stats

[dusky wave]

I got filter during the endgame event duo boss fight

Then I saw someone on youtube using Catcher only

Dark Souls mode

Parryslop every attack from the bosses

[rustic echo]

I saw the snowbear counter solo videos. I parry everything meme is real.

[dusky wave]

Catcher, Snowshine and Ember

Just parry every attack

[brittle abyss]

I am definitely trying this out now

[sturdy osprey]

snowshine thighs and ember boobs facetank anything

[frigid mural]

Test Photoshop editing and saving HDR picture

[dusky wave]

Snowshine's abs

[frigid mural]

No I lost the HDR

[dusky wave]

Oof

[frigid mural]

How do you guys edit HDR picture 😆

[dusky wave]

Photoshop using their HDR stuff

Or after effects

[rustic echo]

why you RTGI? marty?

honestly, screenshot looks kinda bad...I really do wish they get real GI into endfield.

[sturdy osprey]

cant slop lumen into it

bcause its unityslop

[frigid mural]

Yes Marty's RTGI. I think I found a way to use it with RenoDX together

But now I only have 40 fps

I couldn't save the HDR picture properly after added some text. It looks nice for me on my monitor

It supposed to looks like this

[brittle abyss]

OK, I know the battle has already been waged in this thread, but this game's FMVs really look like trash. The compression is insane. Such a shame...

[twin haven]

sorry what's FMV? about cutscene?

[brittle abyss]

Yeah

Movie cutscenes

[twin haven]

oh using video instead of in-game engine, yeah only below 1080p it could look ok but still sucks

[brittle abyss]

Pre rendered not in game

[brittle abyss]

If at least it was full HD without obvious macro blocking... that would be a start...

I mean there is so much compression artifacts, you could almost argue there's more aliasing in the movies than the actual game. It's wild.

I played FE : TH on switch. The movies there are notoriously terrible. It's still better.

[dusky wave]

We could have real time cutscenes affected by RenoDX

but noooooooo

[brittle abyss]

I sent a feedback about it

Please give PC folks the option to download better quality or something...please.

https://tenor.com/view/despair-suffer-suffering-sad-sad-quotes-gif-14270258133567956444

[rustic echo]

Neither soop or unclamping will help marty's dependency on SDR color space very much. Ya i wouldn't put much stock in RTGI here. It's too fickle for HDR.

[sturdy osprey]

I wanted to say that i hate prerendered cutscenes but i cant imagine unity being able to pull off anything cinematic in real time

[woeful raven]

Unity can do it

Its just slop

HG

Baking cutscene

For mobile

[dusky wave]

but they have cinemtics already

[woeful raven]

Mobile cant do it

[dusky wave]

mobile shit cant into them

so we instead get baked sloppa

[woeful raven]

Dude

I cant imagine

The wuwa cutscenes are also realtime on mobile

Cant imagine how slop that looks

[fleet socket]

we do have some somewhat impressive cutscenes being real time

while others aren't

not sure what's their criteria exactly lol

[sturdy osprey]

their animation system is wonky

theirs meaning the unity one, because as far as i know they didnt modify anything in that aspect

[sudden nest]

m*bile players

[sudden nest]

https://tenor.com/view/8-bit-senor-chang-8-bit-chang-low-res-chang-low-res-ken-jeong-low-resolution-chang-gif-4114521147694967978

[rustic echo]

Given how low endfield mobile go, in game cut scenes are probably more limited by vram then anything

Trying to shove that into like 4gb of vram might be hard for cutscenes fidelity

[dusky wave]

The reason we dont have 100% real time cinematics

is becasue they couldnt get ambient conclusion working

[strong flare]

just dodge

[gloomy tulip]

Zoner scumming is a lot easier because you only take full damage for the character you are controlling

[dusky wave]

@woeful raven

DTM?

LCD HDR????

500nit would imply TB500

but I dunno

but the whole I can push 2000nits sounds like DTM

well setting peak, game and UI brightness all to 500 is 💀

[twin haven]

frankenstein HDR setup

[woeful raven]

if he bought a TB500 then he would know that

there a 96.69% its an lcdslop

better yet

extra sloppa if he's on a laptop

laptop users are a lost cause

if he's here's maybe there's some hope

if not im not explaining all that jazz on goonbanana

[rustic echo]

There's always TVs, but in any event tell him please consult reddit for your specific monitor model HDR settings. Then use color grading to cater to your tastes.

there's always going to be that one monitor that is different or is blowing fake specs on the cardboard box

best case RTing has all your specs listed for you haha, assuming it's a popular model

[arctic echo]

500 game and UI brightness lmao

[twin haven]

tbf i once did that (only with RTX HDR in my nub days) with my fake HDR monitor, i only got it because i 2x RMA'd my monitor so i discovered HDR with that monitor, now here i am with a MiniLED

[stable lava]

500 game/UI/peak
flames don't look good until i set peak to 2000
i sure wonder why

[strong vault]

[idle notch]

wdym gang

[idle notch]

there are some vivobooks and budget-ish laptop which have peak 500 nit oled displays
is that guy sure that HDR is on in the first place

[fluid patio]

Glass fix breaks windows in fog

[cursive storm]

Has anyone had any luck using reshade on linux? Ace triggers and crashes the game

[fleet socket]

yeah it works fine

on dx11

on vulkan, no luck

on dx11 you need to do the same as windows

which is to say, name the dll something that ACE won't filter

like d3d12.dll

then override the dll in wine

WINEDLLOVERRIDES="d3d12=n,b"

[cursive storm]

I've even tried steam with proton-cachyos, but still having an error, I'm using these launch arguments: PROTON_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 PROTON_NO_WM_DECORATION=1 PROTON_ENABLE_HDR=1 PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 PROTON_USE_NTSYNC=1 ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1 DXVK_NVAPI_DRS_NGX_DLSS_SR_OVERRIDE_RENDER_PRESET_SELECTION=RENDER_PRESET_M WINEDLLOVERRIDES="d3d12=n,b" %command%

[cursive storm]

Nvm, using dw proton fixed it

[fleet socket]

yeah you need dwproton to play it

or recent proton-ge, since i saw it added patches to make the endfield AC work

[rustic echo]

hmmm added Screenspace shadows shader to Endfield and it did wonders to over all fidelity. Didn't know endfield's GI problem was that severe...
@dusky wave are there anything besides baked in CSM in endfield, that would clash with Screenspaceshadows?

[woeful raven]

Endfield already has screen spaced shadows

I dont see any purpose adding another layer on it

[rustic echo]

really? so it's just bad that a shader helps so much visually?

I was just messing with it, and it did add some shadows that i realize...should be there, but wasn't

[woeful raven]

The improved shadows toggle in reno

Is the improved screen space shadows toggle

[fiery raft]

idk if any of you can help me but i used to play using efmi+reshade/reno for a few days and it worked great and i even played that way today. but i had to go for some time, shutting down my computer and now the game keeps crashing upon reshade injection. i can start the game no problem with efmi only but as soon as i re-insert reshade into the inject libraries section the game crashes on the gryphlink splash screen.
i tried cleaning the game's directory, redownloading it via the gryphlink launcher and tried grabbing a fresh reshade64.dll from the reshade installer but had no luck.
does anyone have an idea how that could be?

[median robin]

Spectrum changed the way efmi injects into the game, so the inject libraries method doesn't work anymore

simply putting reshade .dll as d3d12.dll into the game folder and launching the game through xxmi launcher should work

if not you can look into using inject64 together with xxmi launcher

it doesn't seem fully stable though. Launches 50% of the time atm. Looking into a more stable way

[fiery raft]

i cant get it to work somehow. it starts well with only reshade but reshade+efmi still just doesnt work. i removed reshade from the efmi injection and just put the d3d12.dll into the game files as one would normally do. but reshade+efmi wont start :c

[median robin]

you could use the xxmi reshade thing caverabbit made, but they haven't updated it for endfield yet, so you gotta do that yourself

or I could send you the one I updated myself

it works about 50% of the time for me

[fiery raft]

nah ill just try things when i got more time but thanks for the insights

[median robin]

inject libraries works when removing renodx.addon

but then what's the point lmao

scratch that. It simply isn't loading efmi at all

For XXMI users: There's a bug where bypass isn't working. It'll get hotfixed later today.

[frigid mural]

I just made caverabbit's xxmi reshade thing works for endfield by editing this file. But still can't work when I put renodx.addon in the folder😂

[balmy ember]

these guys really need a session with hdtv Vincent, as he would say: if everything is special, nothing is. ✨

[median robin]

The .vbs works sometimes and the other times it just crashes on splash screen. It's been like that since EFMI came out. But yeah the bypass thing has already been fixed and will come in 2.1.4 alongside other fixes

[frigid mural]

It's weird. After I renamed d3d12.dll back to ReShade64.dll, with the bypass method, it works again on my computer

[median robin]

Does it actually load efmi tho?

Cause it shouldn't work since bypass is broken. It just skips loading efmi entirely and only loads reshade

Look bottom left to see if efmi loads, or press F12

Or maybe you have a magic PC

[fiery raft]

worst case would be to download the previous version of xxmi and disabling auto updates until it is fixed. havent tried that yet tho.

[median robin]

You can, but the fix will be out soon

[fiery raft]

already confirmed?

[median robin]

Yes

Spectrum is just fixing another bug that filters people with slow CPUs from downloading the stuff

[frigid mural]

My magic pc😂

[fiery raft]

wizard

[median robin]

And that's with inject libraries?

[frigid mural]

This is my current setup

[median robin]

Magic

[gloomy tulip]

Maybe bypass works for CN version

[frigid mural]

I'm on the EU/US server

[fiery raft]

i mean spectrum fixed something for chinese people and everyone using non-ascii characters in their directories .. maybe it overlaps in some way

[frigid mural]

I think I found out why it works on my pc. When I enabled caverabbit's xxmi reshade thing, it created a ReShade.ini file in my game folder. I think that's the essensial thing if you rename the dll file to ReShade64.dll. (You can copy the ini file from reshade folder to game folder, and probably need to set the path of addon again) If I delete the ini file in game folder, everything just don't work. But the problem seems been fixed now, because now I can also successfully enable efmi and renodx after I rename the dll file to d3d12.dll

[fiery raft]

i cant really get yours to work .. is there a more granular description you can give?

[frigid mural]

XXMI launcher has been updated to 2.1.5, does that fixed the problem?

[fiery raft]

crazy the launcher didnt check for updates despite restarting it multiple times .. thanks for reminding me

[woeful raven]

gooner launcher had an update

time to see what changed

everything still works

https://tenor.com/view/cat-close-door-gif-26429273

[twin haven]

time to hibernate again, well except Forge with his shenanigans

[dusky wave]

Nah, I am talking a break from Midfield

I already finished everything

Working on improving my older addons now

[fleet socket]

yeah midfield is in a decent state now

thanks a ton forge

[spiral imp]

yeah, very appreciated

[gloomy tulip]

Pretty much everyone has entered hibernate phase 😂

[twin haven]

finally forge hibernation

[dusky wave]

I AM MODDDDULATING BROOOOOOO

CSMs are only 2024x2024 so are pixelated to shit

plus stairstepping everywhere

@woeful raven I couldnt believe my eyes, they saturate()s the fucking deferred shaders

clamped BRDF calculations

Even SDR looks better now

[brittle abyss]

I just got to wuling lol😂

[gloomy tulip]

Here I thought I was slow, I did almost everything in valley 4th before going to wuling

[brittle abyss]

Well, not only am I dreadfully slow, but I got delayed for almost 2 weeks because of car problems so...😅 Here we are !

[gloomy tulip]

oh well have fun in wu ling, it’s like a new beginning xd

[brittle abyss]

Thanks ! It certainly looks very cool for now.😍

[dusky wave]

the blueballing is crazy

oh we have finish

wait until 1.1

no final boss

no major happening

just drop us off like that

[foggy crest]

At least we had amazing events such as

Taking a picture (which looked better thanks to the RenoDX ™ addon)

[woeful raven]

Wtf

Ultimate sloppa

[keen pagoda]

This is only dx11?

[keen pagoda]

Dude, you have to make renodx for vulkan now...
https://github.com/DynamiByte/Endfield-Uncensored

[woeful raven]

Some people may have it better on DX11 (they're using ancient GPUS that barely support Vulkan)

@dusky wave

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-ltg-mods-mods-dox-gif-12807119010175108153

[keen pagoda]

[woeful raven]

he's also wrong

vulkan has more stutters

[keen pagoda]

wdym? I'm good on my rtx 5060ti

Dude, which windows build do you use?

[fleet socket]

pre-alpha

[keen pagoda]

I recommend to use ameliorated with xOS playbook

[keen pagoda]

rip

I should move to linux tho

Maybe someday, but not today for sure

[jovial tiger]

Maybe when modding on linux becomes as easy as modding on windows

And when Nvidia drivers on linux stop being sloppy

[fleet socket]

idk its pretty easy for the most part

at the very least, stuff like reno is basically the same as on windows

[keen pagoda]

So true

[jovial tiger]

I mean it has gotten better but it still falls apart at large scale modding from what I last saw

Doubt you could even run most modlists or modpacks on linux

[keen pagoda]

3dmigoto still have no support for vulkan and dx12

[keen pagoda]

btw, gt 700 series?

[keen pagoda]

Maybe this is the reason @woeful raven so adamant about vulkan

[woeful raven]

frames times are objectively worse

we've already discussed this in this channel before

i won't bother reiterating

you can search it up

or perform your own testing

instead of vibing it

[keen pagoda]

Which software you were using for frame time measure?

[woeful raven]

capframex

rtss

use whatever you want

[dusky wave]

I used PresentMon

but it was the same shit in reshade's graph as well

constant microstuttering

Vulkan like DX12 as a whole is good on paper

but giving low level access to devs is well

[woeful raven]

people saying VK works fine is blessed

ignorance is bliss

[runic dove]

yeah vulkan is a lot worse than dx11

i only hop in to do dailies now so the memory leak isnt a problem

[woeful raven]

memory leak in dx11 can be alleviated

by

turning off reflex

[runic dove]

LOL

[fleet socket]

no use case for reflex

[woeful raven]

i was able to play for an hour plus after turning off reflex

[runic dove]

i mean the game seems to still run okay even with 20GB RAM use

[woeful raven]

it still leaks (but slower)

[glacial kayak]

the weak (care about input lag) shall kneel before the strong (completely blind to input lag)

[fleet socket]

just play on controller

life hack

[glacial kayak]

jokes on you i'm blind to it on mouse too

[runic dove]

keyboard controls stink anyway

at least in this game

[dusky wave]

mobile controls

[runic dove]

the game runs like ass on mobile though

at least on ios

[fleet socket]

im not smart enough for mobile controls...

[dusky wave]

you dont understand

I mean

[runic dove]

runs fine on my pixel idk

[dusky wave]

play on PC

with mobile

touch controls

[runic dove]

probably apple and their 4 gigs of ram

[fleet socket]

false. only IOS can handle RT. no system runs the game better

[dusky wave]

24fps lows

[runic dove]

inb4 rt looks worse than game's own SSR

[dusky wave]

meanwhile DX11 is 110

[keen pagoda]

loading...

It was even lower - 2 fps

[fleet socket]

they look basically the same iirc lol

[runic dove]

does it at least fix the offscreen issue that SSR has

[dusky wave]

all the demos I've seen it looks about on par with what we currently have going on

its just that RT is worldspace

[keen pagoda]

Shader compilation here too xd

on dx11

I will have a lot of stutters after this

10-15 fps lower on dx11

[glacial kayak]

ackshually that's 9 fps lower

but yeah dx11 always ran worse for me

[woeful raven]

lock your framerate and run around wuling

you're running unlocked your frametime graph looks absolute ass on both graphs

[keen pagoda]

How much fps?

[woeful raven]

doesn't matter which

you can do 90

or 60

if you want

[fleet socket]

fwiw my game was a stutter fest on dx11 with the game's own fps locker

using an external one fixed it lol

[keen pagoda]

No issues after second pass around same route

It's just shaders being compiled

[woeful raven]

its ass even with a warm shader cache bud

[keen pagoda]

idk, I have ryzen 7 5700x, I don't feel anything

[woeful raven]

be happy

that you're not sensitive to stutter

I have a 5800X

people have had the same stutter on better cpus on a warm cache

[keen pagoda]

But yes, after some update some shaders are still out of loading screen compilation, because of this you always forced to compile them while playing

On top of that

[woeful raven]

^

[keen pagoda]

It feels like some shaders are being constantly recompiled for some reason

[fleet socket]

just record you frame graph for a bit and post it

this "he said, she said" goes nowhere lol

[woeful raven]

or just provide a capframex capture

so easily provable or disprovable

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave

[keen pagoda]

one sec

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"no stutters"

[runic dove]

shits got a pulse

damn

[woeful raven]

lmao

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https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G3ZK6rdXQAAdBeV.gif

It's too much for you?

[woeful raven]

ignorance is bliss

[glacial kayak]

lockcels when unlockedchads enter the room

that particular frametime graph doesn't look very bad

[woeful raven]

it's noticeable when you get the heartbeat hitches

[glacial kayak]

slop

[woeful raven]

true

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btw, how do you cap framerate, with driver or ingame?

[glacial kayak]

you have rtss injected already, just use rtss

[keen pagoda]

But ingame cap is still functional anyway

You have to disable it first

[glacial kayak]

most in-game fps caps aren't very good

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This is what I'm saying

[fleet socket]

use the endfield fps unlocker

then cap it with something else

[glacial kayak]

you can also just cap below it

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https://github.com/EightySixK/Arknights-Endfield-FPS-Unlocker

Another vulkan application