Arknights + AK Endfield

[woeful raven]

Get it in dx11

[dusky wave]

I am trying to get upscaling working

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweakin-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-25519944

[gloomy tulip]

No debugger

I found out how to get the srvs and uavs from debugger's api inspector

[delicate pewter]

i thought i was going crazy... but after adjusting the screenshot in photoshop..... OMG THE EYES REFLECT ACTUALLY WHAT SHE SEES...

ok, now i legit want an official in game HDR toggle...

[fluid patio]

Any smooth and easy ways to convert jxr to something hdr that will show the preview in discord?

I'd love to share the screenshots I've taken so far

[dusky wave]

We use reshade's capture

it captures HDR .pngs

and you can embed into discord

for existing .jxr taken via gamebar, you use SKIV to convert into HDR pngs

[fluid patio]

Put them in the gallery bc that seemed appropriate

[stable lava]

trade offer:
ingame hdr toggle
but
uber raised blacks, peak brightness capped at 1000nits, horribly saturated colors not matching sdr

[woeful raven]

use looooma's deb00ger

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm what is that

[dusky wave]

He means Luma

[gloomy tulip]

Oh luma

Ughhh I wish it’s a full blown debugger cause navigating imgui is hard and the capture has to be live, can’t replay offline

[dusky wave]

it'll probably just be this

[glacial kayak]

endfield with unreal engine hdr

[gloomy tulip]

It seems like nsight supports dx11 still

[dusky wave]

fuk my life

I got upscaling working

but it requires me to modify shaders

No RTAO for you lot

woops wrong file

[tidal finch]

Now merge this with the DX11 addon

[dusky wave]

mxao doesnt work with HDR, it does some SDR shaping towards the end which creates artefacts in HDR.

Its easy to modify but well, we cant share the code publicly

Time for custom xeGTAO with access to game data?

[gloomy tulip]

I’m not rendering to hdr

I’m rendering directly to gtao buffer the game uses

[dusky wave]

sorry king, you have me beat

[rustic echo]

Playing around with various GI solutions, but none of them does what RTGI does, giving a scene/characters a "fitting in with the environment" look. It gets close but not quite there, as with ardelia's tassels, giving off an unnatural cut out look brightness, that seems to be only be solved with RTGI.
You can try to clamp it to make it work in HDR via REST, but performance is heavy, and a bit off.

Lighter options that get close but not quite, seems to be RadianceGI and Glamarye_Fast_Effects_for_ReShade with some form of LSPIOrr, does produce decent image. LSPIOrr i have issues with because it's not HDR, and need to be heavily scaled back to prevent blown out hightlights again.

[gloomy tulip]

I think I know how to steal the cbuffer data off the game without tracing descriptor tables

I can just make the final ao dispatch write the cbuffer values into the ao texture

[dusky wave]

Bro really told me this after I busted my balls getting upscaling working

😭

[gloomy tulip]

Isn’t it a reshade shader thing

[dusky wave]

both

I had to modify addon and shaders

[gloomy tulip]

Id prefer doing it natively in the game without reshade fx tho

[dusky wave]

correct

since reshade bypass still draws on fog

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm what did you end up doing

[dusky wave]

uniform variables like you mentioned + This

I couldnt get it to work just using addon

shader would still render to 3840x2160 RTV

[gloomy tulip]

Ohh nice

[dusky wave]

but fog is still griefed

[rustic echo]

Any chance there's a version with before all effects(and eventually fog???) but include characters on reshade bypass? I know panda be all dirty, but I found some extra shading effects over the characters really help that "look" aka color bounce GIs and such.

[delicate pewter]

ACTUALLY, there is an option to capture JXL now!

[rustic echo]

I haven't found a way to actually use JXL though...it's like dead except for personal use

[unkempt pulsar]

experimental support is being reintroduced to chromium, so maybe in a year or so?

[dusky wave]

Game does this

1. All the other shaders before hand

2. GTAO passes

3. Environment and foliage deferred shaders (has fog code)

4. multiple deferred shaders that build up character 'parts' face, arms, legs ect (also has fog code)

5. FX, particles ect

6. Bloom

7. DoF

8. Ubers

9. UI

fog is incorporated into deferred shaders, not rendering on fog using just reshade bypass is a PITA for this title, you need to rework base AO (what Miru is doing)

We can add a separate bypass that does it after characters I suppose

but it might also apply to water

limitation of using alt.addon which does bypass right after uberpost (meaning it only bypasses UI and not FX, water, DoF, ect)

AO will apply to water

I have a build now that works with upscaling for deferred shader bypass

but it requires me to also modify shader code

so I cant share any shaders with a loicense that doesnt allow so

[rustic echo]

Is this why a lot of shader devs look to Glamarye for their inspiration?

[dusky wave]

vanilla GTAO / MXAO

[dusky wave]

probably,

I am going to mod MXAO for personal use

Everyone else can waitTM for Miru to cook up his thing

Going to cope with 0.2 distance slider

otherwise fog gets borked

[rustic echo]

Miru comes on, posts some code to give us hope. Then wait for Forge to let us down because DX11 shinangins.

[dusky wave]

Just game shenanigans

they could have just made a single fog shader

which you can on_draw with bypass

and this whole problem would be solved

but noooooooooo

[woeful raven]

Um

All in one shader bro

Efficiency bro

Kevin would be proud bro

Truly hailed from the school of kevin interactive

[dusky wave]

@gloomy tulip save us from the reshade AO slop

dogass LOD changes are proccing AO to flicker/pulse

[gloomy tulip]

It happens to any AO

Oh I think mxao is just worse there

[dusky wave]

Same thing was happenening to me with RTAO and MXAO now

vanilla GTAO is better

wonder why

ahhh

I can still see it happening

its just how vanilla GTAO applies AO

isnt as noticable

but yh, when mesh changes LODs you can see AO disappear and reappear

fuk, need a LOD / draw distance increase function stat

3 meter draw distance is bad

[woeful raven]

what if

we hit up

our secret drug dealer

[dusky wave]

ask if he has a draw distance vars

game is piss easy to run

give me 5x draw distance

atleast to stop this AO pulsing

[gloomy tulip]

Because of the cross fade between lods

Generic AO just calculates normal from depth which could be really bad during cross fades

[woeful raven]

So u need to modify ao to accept game normals?

[gloomy tulip]

Yes the gbuffer normal is in world space tho, so I need to find a way to export world to view matrix to reshade

[gloomy tulip]

Modern problem requires modern solution

[dusky wave]

😂

[gloomy tulip]

This is the perfect ping indicator hide yeah

Just need to pass a constant value to let the shader know if it should check

[dusky wave]

All of this.... when every gatcha dev could just ship with a hiding function for UID and latency bar

Need to do 1000 IQ plays to get UID to hide

need to redo AO so its not complete garbage

Need to increase draw distance

[dusky wave]

I want to apply different AO amount to environment and foliage independently. That will require me to do a bunch of work so I instead came up with a cope solution where if MXAO detects green, it will apply less AO

SlopCode hours in here

[gloomy tulip]

Its a chinese thing im sure

They dont want people to leak stuff so they just force uid

[gloomy tulip]

I found the roughness/ao/translucency gbuffer

only grasses/trees have translucency

[dusky wave]

I tried my hand at making MXAO read normal data

from the game

I sort of got it working

but I messed up somewhere becasue the AO started having the missing edge application

and the normals looked wrong

[gloomy tulip]

The normal is in world space

[dusky wave]

never thought about that

[gloomy tulip]

Wouldnt work with mxao that needs view space normal

The world space normal only has x and y channel and needs reconstructing z axis

[dusky wave]

depth / normals

Probably explains why it looked borked to me in that case

[gloomy tulip]

If reno can upgrade resource resolution on resource create event

Works with different resolution nice

[gloomy tulip]

    const vec2 verts[12] = vec2[12](
        vec2(-1167.0001220703, -653.4990234375),
        vec2(-1167.0001220703, -644.4990234375),
        vec2(-1162.0001220703, -644.4990234375),
        vec2(-1162.0001220703, -653.4990234375),
        vec2(-1160.5, -653.4990234375),
        vec2(-1160.5, -640.4990234375),
        vec2(-1155.5, -640.4990234375),
        vec2(-1155.5, -653.4990234375),
        vec2(-1154.0, -653.4990234375),
        vec2(-1154.0, -636.4990234375),
        vec2(-1149.0, -636.4990234375),
        vec2(-1149.0, -653.4990234375)
    );
    

    vec2 vertexDist = abs(verts[gl_VertexIndex] - _3.xy);

    if (dot(vertexDist, vertexDist) < 0.000001)
    {
        return;
    }

here is the code

[woeful raven]

game seems to leak vram as well as ram

[covert jetty]

Yeah I reckon it's the first game to really push my 5090's VRAM

[woeful raven]

if you turn off DLSS

the VRAM leaks slower

but it will still leak

lmao

peak

[rain sundial]

hi, i just downloaded the reno add on, but for some reason when i use the addon the game crashes for me during the initial load, without the add on reshade works as per usual

[rich acorn]

What else did you use? I encounter a crash over another addon once and multiple crashs over mods.

[fluid patio]

Did you follow the instructions?

[rich acorn]

For anyone else(gooners maybe) want to use mods with RenoDX, use Endfield-ReShade-Mods-Launcher from GB and put RenoDX into Endfield-reshade\ReShade\Addons.

[fluid patio]

If you want HDR you need to install dx10/11/12 version of reshade, rename dxgi in the game folder to d3d12 and use the addon version named renodx-enfield.addon

[rain sundial]

i literally just reinstalled my entire game for this just in case, no mods, renamed to d3d12 (reshade works, just not when i install the addon)

[fluid patio]

That's literally the extent of my knowledge 🤷‍♂️ are you using the latest version from here? if so maybe go an iteration back

[unkempt pulsar]

@rain sundial you’re launching the game with dx11?

[rain sundial]

yeah i tried both the official launcher and the bat file sent here

is there a crash log somewhere?

[woeful raven]

1. use latest reshade with add-on support, load as d3d12.dll
2. download latest mod and put it in
3. launch game in dx11

jam it in

[rain sundial]

yeah i did full reinstalls of both reshade and the game, reshade works, only once i copy the add on into the game directory does it crash on the initial loading screen

[rustic echo]

i don't think the addon crashes anymore with dx11 or dx11 on 12 or vulkan

[woeful raven]

reshade.log

[rustic echo]

so addon wouldn't crash regardless as long as reshade loads

[woeful raven]

in game folder

[rustic echo]

are you sure addon is from the pinned, and not one of umm....spiwar or miru's test builds?

[woeful raven]

my build works fine

[rain sundial]

yeah i used the latest one from forge, ill send my log in case someone smarter than me can understand it then 🙁

[woeful raven]

if anything forge's build will crash more often

due to fucking with deferred shaders

[rich acorn]

[rustic echo]

tbf i didn't test forge's pinned ping one...i don't care for ping display

did forge really prove spiwar right?

[woeful raven]

i dont know what i was even right about

[rustic echo]

why don't you link your last alt one spiwar then? it's up there somewhere?

[woeful raven]

at some point i became too lazy

[rain sundial]

ohhh

i see the problem lemme try something its referencing starluxe which i thought was uninstalled

lol

[rich acorn]

Still recommend rookies like me try the silly launcher above, just uncheck mod option if you don't want them and delete presets beacause they're made for sdr.

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/real-gif-11459216359066836221

[rich acorn]

That's why silly laucher exists maybe.

[woeful raven]

i love end users

[rich acorn]

[brittle abyss]

Well most of them probably aren't that stoopid. But chances are, the challenged ones are the only ones you're gonna ear from so...🥲

RIP😇

[unkempt pulsar]

yes i love how end users would rather use a game specific tool instead of learning absolute basic computer knowledge they could re-use in the future

-# i don't mean to bash you, it's valid for mod management

-# but just for reno?

[rustic echo]

Well it's one of those catch 22. How important is the task at hand to you, for the effort you put in. Old people are notorious for this: "If I don't know how to turn on the TV, then I just won't watch TV" mentality.
Mods are a pretty grey ish area, where the price of making it workable is kinda "eh", but also the price of people using the mod, can also be said to be "eh"

Anyway, seems issue solved, moving on~

[gloomy tulip]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/commit/974057ce92c978002b38c5a2f7dc70730bb7d2ab
my new uid and ping disable code, hopefully this is bug free 😭

[spiral imp]

Instructions unclear, pc bsoding when switching maps

[twin haven]

im not a code could that be added to renodx of Arknights Endfield?

[gloomy tulip]

Yes forge should be able to port to dx11

[rich acorn]

[dusky wave]

@gloomy tulip anything special we need to launch nsight?

I need to grab the coordinates for the latency bar

[gloomy tulip]

its the same mesh in dx11 i think

But just rename ngfx-ui.exe to random name

Then run it as admin

Oh yeah I guess I need to take a dx11 capture before the exploits are fixed

Although by then they might just ban all dll injection or hook

[dusky wave]

would be rip pepperoni

no more reno

[grizzled herald]

Wait wha... What would be the odds of that happening?

[dusky wave]

Hasnt happened to any gatcha sloppas we've modded thus far

Most of them just block dxgi hooking

worst case scenario is you need to use inject64

ofc they could eventually pull a complete block of everything

which well

goodbye I guess, I am not playing SDRslop

[balmy ember]

same, btw if we're talking gacha slop, thoughts/expectations on NTE: Neverness to Everness? (they just released a new gameplay trailer I watched it with RTX Video HDR and it was awesome ) It would be another nice HDR game, and I'm still having some hopes they might actually ship with HDR. i think it's unreal engine this time? their last game was

[gloomy tulip]

Can’t trust perfect world

Tower of fantasy

[gloomy tulip]

Plus I’m sure everyone will just move onto ananta once that comes out

[fluid patio]

The combat in the new NTE trailer looked kinda week imo

[balmy ember]

or hotta? which one is it this time? I think they redeemed themselves with the relaunch of ToF, and they always had good ideas just questionable execution and well we all know it was their greed that killed them

[balmy ember]

yeah but i also didn't like anantas imitation of batman/spiderman games combat (and just generally influenced by recent spiderman games, meh i'm not super into it). NTE goes more flashy/tof anime style (i like this more). would you say it looked worse than endfield to you?

just "looked" or gameplay mechanics you mean?

[gloomy tulip]

I saw like Genshin character switch I immediately lost all interest

[rustic echo]

I got into the test beta in a few days, can report back. I'm playing to mess with UE5 engine

[gloomy tulip]

In endfield at least you can see your team mates besides you, switching isn’t really a main mechanic for combat

[rustic echo]

and also see what reno does

[dusky wave]

Endfield has made we realise, why the hell do gatcha's not have the player character + other characters in the team on screen at once

I cant go back to single character on screen only slop

[rustic echo]

anyway, gacha devs rely on whatever ACE does for blocking, unless they purposely go in and muck a custom build for whatever contractual/complance reasons like wuwa did.

[gloomy tulip]

What did wuwa do

[rustic echo]

i don't think any ACE game has blocked reshade, but some do block addons, though mostly competitive online games with pvp

[balmy ember]

yeah i like that too

[rustic echo]

they mucke with some stuff to get Linux people and steamdeck happy

[balmy ember]

ZZZ started kinda doing that and it's a well done tasteful balance. your teammates don't just stand there doing fuck all nothin but appear when they actually do meaningful stuff (and they always walk into combat with an animation from off screen, not teleporting)

and whenever you swap there's a detailed animation of your character exiting and new one jumpin in @dusky wave you would have liked that not sure if you noticed not many people do (if you look at slow-mo it's all animated there's no "magic" swapping)

[gloomy tulip]

Kinda like wuwa combat switching?

[rustic echo]

genshin clone era, they copy and have marching orders to copy. Not needing to design your own combat system is great right...endfield had to learn the hard way to make their own combat system

[balmy ember]

haven't played enough to remember but i thought that was also just magic swapping

[gloomy tulip]

You can see your last character exiting

[balmy ember]

i was so positively surprised and impressed when they first showed ZZZ. they really evolved their stuff and while the game is very basic in other things it's technically more advanced that other gachas, at least from animation details and combat feel. can't say for technical optimisation tho that is rough

[rustic echo]

more buttons, and some more sweaty combat mechs like perfect dodge and parry. Nothing special in concept. But they had a great deal of trouble perfecting it

[gloomy tulip]

Silver palace sekiro slop

[grizzled herald]

Me neither haha. RenoDX has been really transformative in this title. I usually use RenoDX to fix bad HDR implementation, something I'm not as sensitive to detect, but going from a few hours on SDR and then Reno... Wow!

[balmy ember]

Love the silver palace artstyle direction but man the combat looks so... dry? after getting used to ZZZ it's like it's missing half the animations and this is an early alpha you're looking at. the animations are just so underdeveloped, in all aspects, not just details. it lacks physics, weight too

[balmy ember]

yeah if it wasn't for that I wouldn't have even given it the time of day. testing it in sdr on ps5 was painfu. loved it with reno, but unfortunately, factory slop is not for me

[rustic echo]

I don't have high hopes fo silver palace...performance is crazy bad, and art style umm...while you can say it's different they're straight up copying genshin's shader system, that's why they have that "doll" big head look to them

[balmy ember]

I just like the victorian era stuff pretty much what's pulling me

[gloomy tulip]

Look at endfield first demo trailer

[grizzled herald]

lol NTE and Ananta are two different games? Haha. Guess my brain sees anime GTA and shuts down all the interest.

[gloomy tulip]

The combat was extremely stiff

[balmy ember]

yeah but think of NTE more like GTA and Ananta more like spiderman gameplay

[balmy ember]

ok so there's hope for silver palace they polish it up?

[gloomy tulip]

But the final release combat has much more weight and feedback

[balmy ember]

i'm hoping 🙏

it really needs improvement

[gloomy tulip]

Silver palace will have multiple tests anyway

Per Chinese gacha

[balmy ember]

gotta love our chinese gacha slop

[gloomy tulip]

3D gacha costs so much to make nowadays

[rustic echo]

No it's just a lot of investor money being thrown around. CN gaming industry is still riding on their their economy boom and Genshin frenzy 5yrs ago, before things turn south.

[balmy ember]

can someone explain how the fuck do these chinese gacha slops make them look so beatiful meanwhile we have games like Code Vein 2 coming out looking like absolute dogshit 15 years behind PS3 looking graphics but not in a good way?

[rustic echo]

but reality is, like any gaming, big money don't always get big returns, and more manpower doesn't always make a better product.

though more manpower solves many things

[gloomy tulip]

China is never short on good artists

[balmy ember]

they're definetely wasting money on things not needed tho, could be better economically optimised

[gloomy tulip]

And Chinese are very focused on look and style

[balmy ember]

but they can afford to go all out, since the gross revenue potential is so huge...

[gloomy tulip]

But usually their games ended up having little substance imo

[balmy ember]

oh yeah completely agree on that

[rustic echo]

they can, but so can FGO slop. It's still half luck who the winners are. Last year alone we've seen like 4-5 AAAA budget gacha games burn and crash in the most spectacular ways.

[balmy ember]

japanese games typically go the opposite way (like jrpgs)

[gloomy tulip]

I can feel more soul in some small jp gacha than most Chinese ones tbh

It’s like I’m playing a product with some of the slops

[woeful raven]

wuwa just added native hdr

[fluid patio]

I'm a big vibe guy, it looked stiff in some places and just seemed overall unappealing to me and the english va didn't match up to the characters imo. The overall trailer didn't appeal to me till we saw the big bad

[gloomy tulip]

That’s crazy

[fluid patio]

Looked at some anata gameplay too and yea I don't think the combat is selling it either but my impression of that game is going to be based on how dynamic that world is

[dusky wave]

• Added Miru's vertex shader latency bar hiding (pls I pray this fixes this issue once and for all)
• Added upscaling support for reshade bypass (requires modifying reshade shaders though)

[fluid patio]

Like, "GOOD" HDR?

[gloomy tulip]

When will we get Chinese expedition 33 gacha I wonder

[dusky wave]

in the works

whats the name again

something something 4

[gloomy tulip]

There is already a carbon copy of a single player game

I think

[balmy ember]

heh, english VA never vibes with me at all. i always use JP

[balmy ember]

for real? on consoles too?

[gloomy tulip]

I think forge was thinking about the same game

[dusky wave]

Sword and Fairy 4

[gloomy tulip]

It’s a remake

[dusky wave]

thats the game

[balmy ember]

why 4? what about the new one?

[gloomy tulip]

Everyone loved 3 and 4 and it’s a remake

[fluid patio]

And I wholey agree with you but I would miss open world chatter all the time and god forbid I look away during story conversations that aren't the super flashy ones. With english va I always know what's happening

[rustic echo]

I don't quite understand why requires modifying reshade shaders means? do we have anything to insert currently?

[dusky wave]

I have to modify the reshade .fx shader code

to support the upscaling system I have added

I tried making it work for all shaders using just reno but that didnt work

limitation is I cant share shaders that dont allow so due to loicense

[rustic echo]

That sounds painful.

[fluid patio]

This is my first gacha so I don't know what the "usual" is; Once these 3 banners are done are we getting a new big story patch where we can earn more f2p pulls with a new set of 3 banners or is a new story patch with f2p earnings later?

[rustic echo]

Endfield does it's own thing so we don't know, we have our first event soon though.
Maybe a Arknights veteran will know

[fluid patio]

When is the first event?

The only characters I'm interested in headhunting for are Rossie and Yvonne

[woeful raven]

Refer to this

[median robin]

@dusky wave new update seems to work fine with the latency icon hidden, at least from my limited testing

[fluid patio]

No I've seen everyone post that more than a few times but I thought it wasn't out yet so it was still up in the air. So is it confirmed sdr tonemap?

[dusky wave]

I said I will stop modding and actually play the game today

but man....

Their GI solution + SSR are running at at 720p same as GTAO if using 4K DLSS Q

it exposes the shimmering, inertia that makes everything wobble and also looks like atrocious light leaking

Vanilla / MXAO (with vanilla GTAO off) + Reworked SSR

[arctic echo]

I think it'll be more similar to other 3D gacha than OG Arknights.

[dusky wave]

@woeful raven

[tidal finch]

So that's why the reflections are so bad

[mighty palm]

well this update didnt fix the vignette disappearing during cutscenes for me with latency icon hidden ...again

[dusky wave]

Your game is cursed

[mighty palm]

if possible, maybe just remove the entire vignette from dialogues? maybe easier fix?

[dusky wave]

might as well do that

I will go over the vertex code again

I maybe messed up

[tidal finch]

80/80/80
what did happen here

[dusky wave]

Ideally I'd want latency bar and speech vignette to be separate settings

[mighty palm]

peak sdr gaming experience happened

[dusky wave]

the addon supports SDR

[tidal finch]

Ohh

[dusky wave]

so people can still use the fx and such

[tidal finch]

makes sense then

[dusky wave]

or customise grading

[tidal finch]

Thought it's only HDR

[median robin]

guess my limited testing was too limited

[dusky wave]

I tried going everywhere

Wuling

Valley

I couldnt proc it

[median robin]

I tested all NPCs I knew had had the problem, nothing

plus some new ones

as far as I know the problem doesn't exist until I come across it lmao

[dusky wave]

This GI or whatever it is

Let me make a cope solution that atleast improves it some what

At native 4K all of these are running at 1080p

Use DLSS Q and its at 720p

So anyone playing at 1440p or 1080p is just getting dunked on

with 240p GTAO, SSR and GI

(This is why the game runs at 120FPS on a toaster)

[mighty palm]

i just talked to npc and vignete didnt disappear...i guess it only happens with cutscene dialogues, not just basic dialogues

[tidal finch]

240p SSR and GI would explain a lot of things lol

[woeful raven]

Reworked gi?

[dusky wave]

its not GI

its their SSR

its soo overtuned at places

and you get this grey light leak look

on top of it being 720p so it shimmers

Power Plateu gets grifed hard by it

[dusky wave]

@unkempt pulsar I found the edge fade reverse vignette thingy for contact shadows

I commented it out and now the contact shadows use the full screen of the g-buffer

I will need people to test and see if it mucks up edges

[tidal finch]

How did you manage to implement this btw?

[dusky wave]

I reduced the intensity of the SSR

MXAO is well MXAO, which I modified with a bunch of new params + to allow to work with bypass upscaling

Setting in-game AO to low doesnt remove it

I had to add a disable toggle for vanilla AO

[dusky wave]

This has the toggle for those who are using reshade based AO shaders

Actually reworking the SSR would require engine level modding

because the g-buffers are just slop

Not really a good work around

Vanilla wobble wobble is abysmal

[dusky wave]

I lied, the shader contains both SSR and GI/ contribution at the very least

Instead of adjusting SSR let me lower GI

[brittle abyss]

So we're gonna get screen space shadows without the blanc on the edge ?

[rustic echo]

Time for someone to dig up their iOS RTR code haha

[strong vault]

[dusky wave]

yep, already added it. I'll drop the addon in a bit after I get GI toggle working

[dusky wave]

I fear that with their current philosophy, RT might also have similar 'optimisation' shenanigans

unless raster is soo poor becasue they want to be moving onto RT anyways and all this sub optimal setup is just a legacy cope solution

[brittle abyss]

Where would you like the shrine to be erected ?

[rustic echo]

hmm I tried Baba's new beta-GI shader on Endfield. It needs to soop in HDR...but my god this is such a clean GI for Endfield! My new favorite. Now if only soop didn't die on reshade bypass...

[unkempt pulsar]

oooh that's great, thank you!

thank you for letting me know

[rustic echo]

It's a long in the tooth development game. And it does run on a toaster, we have to give them respect for creative long term engineering workarounds. Probably been through a lot of hands.

Of course their solutions still sucks for anyone with a modern rig.

[dusky wave]

This what SSR looks like

[stable lava]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-nothing-look-at-the-time-nothing-clock-nothing-ever-happens-clock-gif-4518983960573307132

[dusky wave]

optimisation = getting the same 'good' grafix running better with no to very little visual degradation, not rendering effects whilst not in view, improving CPU perf or reducing I/O bloat

'optimsation' = 3 meter draw distance, 240p g-buffer + half rate shading for SSR, AO and GI, no shadow casting, 40p DoF

[stable lava]

kevin would be proud

[dusky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

If they drop RT

but RT has 720p g-buffer with wobble wobble

its ogre

[woeful raven]

the only real "optimization"

that u can applaud them for

is that the game stops rendering

when you enter the menu

unlike wuwa running in full steam

[fast topaz]

I can't even get WuWa to run for 30min without crashing atm...

[dusky wave]

@gloomy tulip I tried running Nsight and it just gave me 'you're running haxx' message

Nvm Graphics Capture worked

[dusky wave]

You melon

I already did that

the capture appears in Vulkan but not DX11

ahhhhh

[dusky wave]

DUH because it doesnt support DX11

Hmm Frame Debugger mode is still saying I am using haxx

Rip, I am too dumb to use Nsight

[woeful raven]

implement mod with no sight

grab the uav from thin air

[dusky wave]

Thats what I am doing RN

its a pain

Undraw the shader

metals look good

Ok let me look around for whats controlling the metals

HUR DUR its all just SSR

but its not SSR

I have disabled it, I cant tell if its metallic specular settings or some form of skylight intensity specific to just metals

Ok I found something, looks like IBL contribution onto metals

No idea why it was also applying it to rocks in Power Plateu

[brittle abyss]

IBL ?

[dusky wave]

Image Based Lighting

Skylight is another way to say it

[brittle abyss]

Thx👍

[dusky wave]

it takes the colour of the sky

and applies it

which is why all the metal end up being a fuck ass blueish grey

its way too overtuned

[woeful raven]

caues then they can just fit RT in

and then it just works

now they're faking it with ssr and whatnot

[dusky wave]

Removing the IBL makes metals almost black in some parts so I am working on getting a good enough balance

[woeful raven]

i like the IBL

though its a cope vs having proper reflectance

[dusky wave]

^

here is just looks terrible

It even makes the distance glass window cloudy

Same shit has Byberpunk

we called it 'cum glass'

and it was because of some overtuned setting

[brittle abyss]

Yeah I see what you mean. A liittle bit of the blue sky reflectivity gives a style I think. But yeah, overdone, it flattens and whashes out the whole thing.

[dusky wave]

it makes interiors have the raster grey/blue tint

[dusky wave]

Witcher 3 had this same problem

[woeful raven]

amazing AO

[dusky wave]

[woeful raven]

ya u broke it bud

the left looks more proper here with the blue hue

[brittle abyss]

You're right of course, but when it's not overcooked, I kinda like how it gets material response across.

[dusky wave]

Need a good balance where the metals arent black

but you dont have blue hue all over the place

[woeful raven]

next patch they invalidate all of this

with rt

[dusky wave]

sure

[woeful raven]

[dusky wave]

RTR (select locations)

applies to two arenas

Can we pester Crosire to add VK FG support

I am not playing with RT at 60FPS

[woeful raven]

relax bro

[dusky wave]

because reshade for some reason doesnt support FG

[woeful raven]

school of kevin optimization

RT will be 1/8th res

so u can run at 120fps

[brittle abyss]

Please do not jinx it

[woeful raven]

actually it tanks perf too much

so when you enable RT

it will also use 1/8th res for GTAO and SSR fallback as well

[dusky wave]

layers their wobble wobble on top of RT

peak

[woeful raven]

since 1/8th is not enough precision

instead of RTGI/RTAO proper

they'll still layer the crap temu xegtao

on top

layers of shit on top of shit

wuwa still uses ssao when rt is enabled for that reason

[brittle abyss]

You might just be giving them ideas... It might be fucked, and it will be your fault. If you don't think about the possibility then it doesn't exist.

[dusky wave]

ok finally figured out IBL

This was annoying

Right, let me finalise this then I will post build with better contact shadows and IBL stuff for people to test

[gloomy tulip]

The points I have in my shader are the local positions of the ping indicator “model”, in theory they are the same in vulkan vs dx11

So you can probably still use vulkan as reference

[dusky wave]

oh, I just wanted Nsight for general looking

vertex code for bar icon is fine

(I think)

Vanilla, modified, off

IBL for metals

it also helps with stopping SSR shimmering

2 birds with one stone or something

@woeful raven

what we thinking

[woeful raven]

Looks good

[dusky wave]

I went from simpel tonemapASS modding

to whatever the hell is going on in Endfield

[woeful raven]

Mod is way too extensive now

[dusky wave]

RenoDX+

[woeful raven]

They wont break the deferred shaders unless they add rt

Probably

[woeful raven]

RenoDX+ Pro Max Ultra

Slop in 4096 shadows

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-woah-mind-blown-gif-20874328

[gloomy tulip]

Isn’t that the real time cubemap reflection

I think it looks good enough most of the time tho

[woeful raven]

Forge thinks it glows too much

Hence why hes turning the intensity down

[gloomy tulip]

Fair

There is the oldest trick in the book to reduce it more intelligently tho

You do cubemap = cubemap * saturate(luminance(ambient_color));

That should give you the bright reflections where it’s open area

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[gloomy tulip]

ambient color is usually just GI * AO

[dusky wave]

hmm

I can try that

I just need to find the cubemap

becasue this shader doesnt have it

[gloomy tulip]

Hmmm it should be done in deferred lighting

I thought you did this trick in deferred xd

[dusky wave]

Nope

SSR shader

u2 controls SSR and IBL blend

[gloomy tulip]

bruh

[dusky wave]

well the shader has SSR and then IBL passthrough

slopcode

hours

[gloomy tulip]

Then it’s not really possible to do what I described sadly

Because ssr has already got in the reflections

[dusky wave]

This just annoyed me

Cum glass

[gloomy tulip]

RT reflections

TI would say SSR and cubemap are good but he’s never seen this

[dusky wave]

brooo just remake your assets brooo

I've seen this in soo many raster games

[woeful raven]

Imagine wuling river

Without ssrslop

[gloomy tulip]

Seems like the reflection is still use in deferred hmm

[dusky wave]

These SSR skid marks have me dying

WTF are those lines

and the wobble

[woeful raven]

its just ssrcope

[gloomy tulip]

Half res SSR moment

It also has 1 frame delay

SSR runs before lighting is calculated

[sturdy osprey]

did you guys get the renodx mod working?

i got black screen

[dusky wave]

Black screen happens if you run VK

[sturdy osprey]

what is vk

[dusky wave]

addon is only for DX11

Vulkan

@sturdy osprey instructions are here

[sturdy osprey]

oh i thoguht the game launched at dx12

by default

[rustic echo]

it can launch in some strange dx11 on dx12 mode, but no default is vulkan.

-dx12 whatever it is Reshade can't find a depthmap, so RIP using it.

[dusky wave]

I tried this

looks bretty good

need to play around with it a bit more but I prefer it to my slop

issue is I have to mod every deferred shader again, meanwhile previous one uses the same SSR shader so it works in every location

hlsl is rip for deferred so I have to do .asm then compile it into .cso

[gloomy tulip]

Move to VK because decompiler actually works XD

[dusky wave]

SoonTM

[gloomy tulip]

It's probably possible to use regex to edit the asm if the reflection code fits a certain pattern

[dusky wave]

My slop / Miru slop

My method is easier but cooks bright reflections since less IBL

Miru's betta

brighter parts of the cubemap stay bright but every else gets darker shading

I am learning new stuff

[idle notch]

did you know
that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
the more you know

🗣️ 💥

[dusky wave]

I said I will put this addon out

10 hrs later

still working on stuff

[idle notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1270070306077147260/1337379059830620251/image0.gif

[gloomy tulip]

Hmmm maybe you mistunderstood a bit

My idea is to reduce cubemap reflection where Global Illumination is dark, not the cubemap itself

[dusky wave]

yes

[gloomy tulip]

[dusky wave]

yh we're not messing with the cubemap itself

just reducing reflection amount based on luminance

[gloomy tulip]

Oh nice

[dusky wave]

Thats the point?

or did I mess up

[gloomy tulip]

If you meant GI's luminance then no you didnt

[dusky wave]

ok, thats what I did

[gloomy tulip]

Yeah I think you did right XD

This part reduces more convincingly

[dusky wave]

better targetting, my slop was just static global reduction

I am starting to get it

You have to use the data at your disposal

Musa also showed me the way with eye adapation

where instead of doing just a bog standard global reduction

Soo much stuff for me to learn

[rustic echo]

the moment a HDR mod isn't modding HDR anymore

[dusky wave]

I am picky about my rendering

before hand I didnt know how to use RenoDX so I just relied on what other authors made

I learnt how to use Reno and make addons... after that its like crack

You want to add HDR to a bunch of games, then as Marat says. You learn hold on... I could modify this or tweak that

You start going down the rabbithole

[woeful raven]

or move now

[dusky wave]

Just HDR / Reno+

fuk

grass is cooked because its not green here (my custom green pixel code aint applying)

Need that separate grass / enviroment application of AO

but holy fuk, those vanilla cubemaps are something

It even stops cum glass

[woeful raven]

what if i release a vk patch now and u have to move everything to vk

[dusky wave]

I want to play Wuling though

imma be real

I also need to learn my way around VK reno

I tried a bit in POE2 but that was it

[woeful raven]

u need to save 10% of the usage limits

just to make the glsl -> slang

I feel like that's it for this patch

maybe if next patch add RT

then vk

this game looks like

actual modern

instead of pbrmax + slop now

[dusky wave]

just ignore the distant LODs and 240p SSR, GTAO and GI would you

and 3 meter draw distance

material work hard carries here

I improved cubemap slop

so now everything doesnt glow like a mf

[woeful raven]

the foundation is there

[dusky wave]

contact shadows use the full g-boofer

[woeful raven]

They just need to

Slop rt in

[gloomy tulip]

Just compile your own spv instead, i gave up doing slang XD

[woeful raven]

slang works fine once i just have claude translate it

but maybe i only patched like

3 shaders

so

[gloomy tulip]

for /r %%i in (*vert.glsl) do (
    glslc.exe -fshader-stage=vertex -O -g "%%i" -o "%%~dpni.spv"
)
for /r %%i in (*frag.glsl) do (
    glslc.exe -fshader-stage=fragment -O -g "%%i" -o "%%~dpni.spv"
)
for /r %%i in (*comp.glsl) do (
    glslc.exe -fshader-stage=compute -O -g "%%i" -o "%%~dpni.spv"
)
for /r %%i in (*.spv) do (
    spirv-opt.exe -O "%%i" -o "%%i"
)

just a simple bat i use

[dusky wave]

time to grab

[gloomy tulip]

I havent figured out how to properly use spirv-opt yet tho

Hmmm nvm that

Oh well their specs say this about push constants size

Im confused tho

AMD i heard only 128

[dusky wave]

• Contact shadows no longer have a edge fade to them and apply to the whole g-buffer
• Forgor to remove some left over previous latency bar hidding code (this should I pray finally solve disappearing vignette for those that still have it)
• Reworked cloud shadows because they were griefed in Wuling city
• Added a new Cubemap ambient toggle (This will reduce cubemap reflections in areas that are dark and keep reflections bright in brighter areas of the scene based on luminance)
• Has native GTAO off toggle (for those using reshade AO shaders, setting in-game AO to low doesnt remove AO)

[dusky wave]

VK is just

theres probably an extension for an extension

that allows 256

[idle notch]

:D

[dusky wave]

You will see, the cubemap toggle is massif

stops dogass metallic glowing everywhere

[idle notch]

lemme try setting up rtao as well now

how would i go about that

[gloomy tulip]

I think thats the minimum size for the max size

Not the actual max size

The wording is confusing XD

[idle notch]

so DLDSR would actually help these effects right 👀

[dusky wave]

If you run higher res yh

the g-buffer and all will be higher res RTVs / UAVs ect

ofc same limitations of what they came up still apply

but you should atleast see less shimmering

however at that point you're better off using reshade AO

or wait for Miru to finish cooking then we move over to VK

for custom AO

SSR is cooked though, need a full ass rework or just wait for RT

[dusky wave]

@unkempt pulsar @mighty palm

I was just about to go to bed

but I notice that now glass is bad

[gloomy tulip]

Shortfuse about to push his renderpass code tho

[dusky wave]

wait

what is this?

wait wait wait

[gloomy tulip]

Custom draw/dispatch

[dusky wave]

wtf

[gloomy tulip]

No reshade middleman

[dusky wave]

first time hearing this

impeccable

[fast topaz]

surprised pika

[woeful raven]

forge back in the mines soon

to solve the AO fog issue

[dusky wave]

custom render pass

[gloomy tulip]

Forward objects yeah

[dusky wave]

thats insane

I am going into the reno gulag for eternity

[woeful raven]

and then re-do all of it for vk

eks fucking dee

[rustic echo]

let the man play the game he modded!

[woeful raven]

let it go forge

[rustic echo]

he even has a nice sexy laevtain

[woeful raven]

i've let go

and finished the main quest

[dusky wave]

Valley felt like alpha

Wuling is much better

better characters, OST and story so far

[rustic echo]

the main quest is very shounen this time around...I actually kinda like it. It gives a very warm fuzzy feeling that all people are good and humanity isn't a hellhole

[gloomy tulip]

Yeah I think I will play for abit now, I havent even got to Wu Ling

[woeful raven]

yeah

[rustic echo]

no you keep working ,we need a the best AO forge can slap on

[woeful raven]

now that ya'll done

i wouldn't mind slopping out a VK patch if someone gave me the ubers

[gloomy tulip]

My VK code still captures the srv/uav needed for renderpass stuff but I probably need to learn to build pipeline on my own when I tried to mod other games in case I need to XD

[woeful raven]

esp now that ritsu got neutwo in

[gloomy tulip]

I can send nsight capture + dumped shaders

[woeful raven]

I think it wouldn't be difficult to get the uber variants

its just that im too lazy to do it

there's like ~28 uber variants in total

[idle notch]

wats uber :o

[woeful raven]

about ~20 gets captured by the precomp

the rest you probably need to do manually

maybe like in one or two weeks though

wuwa is about to be broken again

[gloomy tulip]

https://i.flowinity.com/i/31edb2d94bb0.7z

This are the dumped shaders I have

[dusky wave]

Its a naming scheme for Unity, just means a large e.g 'uber' (post process) shader

which contains LUTs or tonemapping

that sort of thing

[gloomy tulip]

Just means "everything is processed under this shader" kinda term

[idle notch]

ah i see

[woeful raven]

do u run like

auto dump

so you'd have like

basically everything

since you started playing

[gloomy tulip]

auto dump but i didnt use devkit while actually playing

[woeful raven]

like if u have everything

i could just run a decomp and find whatever shaders with the arri constants

[gloomy tulip]

I have decompiled glsl there yeah

[woeful raven]

aight

[rustic echo]

how come in rest the shaders are different when it's TAAU vs DLSS ?

or is it resolution specific?

[woeful raven]

dlss and taau uses different shaders

[grizzled saddle]

Vulkan compatible, right?

[rustic echo]

TAAU sad endflield life...

[dusky wave]

glass fixed

HyperGryph

just employ me and spiwar at this point

[gloomy tulip]

I think so although there is some update descriptor tables difference for vk I saw in reshade docs

[dusky wave]

Just HDR / Reno with rendering improvements

@woeful raven

sweet christ

[mighty palm]

im not sure what happened with my reshade but my Effect toggle hotkey just stopped working ... is it because of RenoDX....? 🙃

[woeful raven]

stopped working for me too

@dusky wave

[dusky wave]

como

its working on my end

I am using it rn

[woeful raven]

dafuq

bricked

41 ubers

what the fuck

i have a feeling that most of these are not used

but alas

[dusky wave]

• Cum glass begone edition
• Contact shadows no longer have a edge fade to them and apply to the whole g-buffer
• Forgor to remove some left over previous latency bar hidding code (this should I pray finally solve disappearing vignette for those that still have it)
• Reworked cloud shadows because they were griefed in Wuling city
• Added a new Cubemap ambient toggle (This will reduce cubemap reflections in areas that are dark and keep reflections bright in brighter areas of the scene based on luminance)
• Has native GTAO off toggle (for those using reshade AO shaders, setting in-game AO to low doesnt remove AO)

[woeful raven]

no not the UI toggle

reshade effect toggle

in settings menu

[dusky wave]

I am confused

the reshade before UI is still there

for me

ohhh

wait

still here

[mighty palm]

but it does nothing for me

[woeful raven]

the keys still there

[mighty palm]

I think it started happening on yesterdays version...

[woeful raven]

u can bind it to something

but it doesnt work

[dusky wave]

perhaps by implementing hotkey for UI I somehow borked effects hotkey

[mighty palm]

I noticed it yesterday that for some reason no change to AO was happening when I pressed it, but I just didnt care back then and forgot about it and now I realized that its actually not working

[dusky wave]

Can we go a day without bugs thanks

Its caused by Reshade bypass

[gloomy tulip]

Did you use set effects state false

I guess its caused by that

[dusky wave]

nope I have it set to true

let me test something

[gloomy tulip]

https://i.flowinity.com/i/93a2468c30c3.7z
anyway this is a nsight capture

[dusky wave]

First I get blocked on bilibili

now this

They think I am a spy

[gloomy tulip]

Bruh

Where you from, I can ask the host owner to unlock your country maybe

Also I think you can take your own capture in vulkan anyway

[dusky wave]

I'll just VPN

UK is a prison island anyways

[gloomy tulip]

Oh I see I remember he set it up to block UK automatically XD

[dusky wave]

[woeful raven]

*tells claude to translate each shader individually, don't take a systematic approach
"this is taking too long, let me take a systematic approach"

[gloomy tulip]

💀

[dusky wave]

Clankers

This is why you use Opus

[gloomy tulip]

The fact that AI is getting lazy is really funny

Clankers are just like us

[dusky wave]

the apple doesnt fall far from the tree

'where waifus though'

[woeful raven]

opus will face the same issue

looks like anthropic tuned it to

[dusky wave]

I want my 2B model NOOOOW

[woeful raven]

"fuck this, let me take a different approach"

whenever it's been iterating too long

[dusky wave]

They want to save your points

and tokens

[woeful raven]

actually

the powershell script it shat out

might actually work

imma compile a vk build and if all of this runs

[woeful raven]

[dusky wave]

@woeful raven wanna update banana with my build?

[dusky wave]

add this

[woeful raven]

wtf

bro

that script worked

no need to waste token on translation

hit rate 40/41

it only farted on 1 shader

[dusky wave]

Now do deferred shaders

I will be adding the alt fog and cupemap code after all

[woeful raven]

wait

one second

let me grab devkit

[woeful raven]

you'll still need to have ai fix the ones that shit the bedf

it would be funny

out of all these 41 shaders

none of them are

actually used

fmvs are also broken but that's for another day i guess

[dusky wave]

Cant wait to step in on VK and ruin everything

[woeful raven]

can you pr

[rustic echo]

or it magically fixes everything, instead of trying to spawn bugs

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave what if

we rip the bandaid off

[dusky wave]

hmm

what you doing

colours look different

[woeful raven]

its the same

[dusky wave]

no... dont tell me

[woeful raven]

i patched this uber with the same hue shift

and tonesniffing

[dusky wave]

you want to get rid of tonemapASS

[woeful raven]

welp

i ported the structure over

the sliders are there and everything

[dusky wave]

VK exodus begins

[woeful raven]

unless we're gonna do anything with dx11 further

[dusky wave]

Nope

I have maximised DX11 now

cubemap strat too OP

stops everything from having goofy ahh raster light leak

[woeful raven]

well

[dusky wave]

I saw this then tomo I am going to implement some giga brained system

[woeful raven]

fmvs are gonna be broken

so ur gonna see a black intro screen

hypergryph logo and shit

otherwise the game looks ok

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave switching to codex

clanker doesn't complain and keeps iterating

asks me for more token when needed

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[dusky wave]

Altman shill

OpenAI bout to go bust soonTM

anyways

merge PR

[rustic echo]

the Cube map ambient link is interesting...but isn't it a little too strong in some areas? or is that how it is? metal going total black is probably a little overdone?

[dusky wave]

Their SSR is soo doodoo that depending on the angle it will occlude in such a bad way that causes metals to look black

so as a cope solution (probably) they boosted the fuck out of cubemaps

[rustic echo]

interesting

[dusky wave]

ambient link is talking scene ambient colour / gi colour

and looking at the luminance

if the colour is dark then it applies less of the cubemap / probe

if its not dark it applies it as normal

Like here for instance

There is no direct lightsource or opening for skylight

why is the metal rack and all have an orange hue?

[rustic echo]

ya it's like i guess they made the worse compromise to do certain iconic scenes maybe

[dusky wave]

I always add toggles for these setting since users might not like it

[dusky wave]

damn

vanilla glass is slop

cloudy milky glass

[rustic echo]

you can say either mode is "wrong" to a certain extent haha on that metal cabinet

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave watching gpt struggle is funny

it passed the texture into something that asks for a sampler and passed a sampler into something that asks for a texture

then I watch it iterate for 15 minutes to realize it just need to flip it

could have done this manually but watching it struggle was funny

[dusky wave]

oh no

freezes are back

its ogre

might be the glass shaders

[grizzled herald]

I'm a bit lost now... Haha. Can we use upcaling with this one? Also... It's all running in RenoDX no external shaders? Wow.

[rustic echo]

not on this one, i believe

[dusky wave]

Upscaling support is in... However users can't just take any shader and have it work with DLSS

I need to modify the reshade shader

To support the upscaling

But my hands are tied because I can't modify and then share shaders

Which have licenses that don't allow for such

Open licences I can modify to work though

[grizzled herald]

Nah, I'm just using Reno and relying on modder's might and taste to fix slop.

[dusky wave]

ShortFuse is adding RenderPass into Reno soonTM

So we'll be able to do some nutty stuff eventually

[rustic echo]

Sad, because baba's new GI shader really fits well with endfield...it's hard to go back after tweaking it:

[sturdy osprey]

is it expensive?

rtao eats like 20% fps

[rustic echo]

what baba's?

[sturdy osprey]

yes

[rustic echo]

very performant, he saids 1ms not taking in settings and motion vector

but it can't be used with the reshade bypass currently, as you need to wrap it around soop's SDR to HDR

I would say even on max settings it's only eating at RTAO level fps drop

so a lighter setting is very low

[sturdy osprey]

do you have link to it

[rustic echo]

it's beta, you have to goto baba's discord

[sturdy osprey]

do you have link to baba discord

[rustic echo]

I wouldn't umm mess with it unless you have time on your hands, take a bit to get it all linked up

[sturdy osprey]

i see

endfield devs should just implement rt gi

while they are modifying unity already

[rustic echo]

but here's baba's github: discord on the bottom
https://github.com/BarbatosBachiko/Reshade-Shaders?tab=readme-ov-file

here's my shader list for that: still messing with it, but umm ya I can get it playable on TAAU give or take gpu

[woeful raven]

must have been the wind

@dusky wave glsl to slang

https://github.com/spiwar/renodx/tree/endfield-vk

[gloomy tulip]

Forward rendered stuff is bad for it

It thinks the ground is glowing because forwarded objects don’t have depth

Like the ring around teleporter

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave
- All sliders are there but non functional cause obviously xdddd

• all ubers patched (probably)

note:

• must use scRGB for now