Arknights + AK Endfield

[gloomy tulip]

Removing the ping indicator removes the announcement icons during that loading screen too

But in game there is no issue so far

[dusky wave]

@woeful raven

[gloomy tulip]

⁨```cpp
bool isPingInputCandidate = false;
bool isPingDrawn = false;
bool isUIDInputCandidate = false;
float use_ping = 1.0f;
float use_uid = 1.0f;

bool OnPingDraw(reshade::api::command_list* cmd_list) {
if (isPingInputCandidate)
{
isPingDrawn = true;
if (use_ping == 0.0f)
{
return false;
}
return true;
}
isPingDrawn = false;
return true;
}

bool OnUIDDraw(reshade::api::command_list* cmd_list) {
if (isUIDInputCandidate)
{
if (use_uid == 0.0f)
{
return false;
}
}
return true;
}

renodx::mods::shader::CustomShaders custom_shaders = {
{0xEFE8303C, {
.crc32 = 0xEFE8303C,
.on_draw = &OnPingDraw,
},
},
{0x92BB9EA9, {
.crc32 = 0x92BB9EA9,
.on_draw = &OnUIDDraw,
},
},
__ALL_CUSTOM_SHADERS,
};
bool OnDrawIndexed(
reshade::api::command_list* cmd_list,
uint32_t index_count,
uint32_t instance_count,
uint32_t first_index,
int32_t vertex_offset,
uint32_t first_instance) {

if ((index_count == 18) && (first_index == 0) && (vertex_offset == 0))
{
isPingInputCandidate = true;
}
else
{
isPingInputCandidate = false;
}

if ((first_index == 18) && (isPingDrawn))
{
isUIDInputCandidate = true;
}
else
{
isUIDInputCandidate = false;
}

return false;
}

void OnPresent(
reshade::api::command_queue* queue,
reshade::api::swapchain* swapchain,
const reshade::api::rect* source_rect,
const reshade::api::rect* dest_rect,
uint32_t dirty_rect_count,
const reshade::api::rect* dirty_rects) {

isPingInputCandidate = false;
isUIDInputCandidate = false;
isPingDrawn = false;

}

Of course you need to register the on draw indexed and on present reshade events

[quaint solar]

might be a dumb question. but how do you get that menu?

[gloomy tulip]

This is the addon I made for vulkan SDR so you need to wait for forge and spiwar to port them when they can

[quaint solar]

ahh ok makes sense! thank you!!

[woeful raven]

wot

[dusky wave]

Look above

We have ways to hide UID

That works for every res

And latency bsr

[woeful raven]

whats the cost

cpu?

[dusky wave]

50% FPS

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[fast topaz]

Is the new Nvidia driver worth it for this game?

[rustic echo]

DLSS problens are game side, not driver side

[fast topaz]

Am aware. Was just wondering if the driver was worth it in general.

[rustic echo]

since this is a hdr discord, yes

continual reports of OLED flicker fixes or banding fixes (that was in the hotfix i guess)

[fast topaz]

New problem. Can't get the RTAO stuff to work in ReShade.

Am guessing my directory is laid out wrong?

[rustic echo]

sound like a reshade.ini bork not finding the files

i would delete it, and download the luminite folder from repo

then make sure reshade has a subfolder link to that

if it's not scanning it automatically

[fast topaz]

Got it now, thanks.
Think how I was downloading it was just fucking it up.

RTAO looks super good. ^^

[rustic echo]

it hurts fps a bit though

waiting on miru's merge... and just live on TAAU crap

the artifacts starting to bug me

[idle notch]

Me when I used to play genshin

[elder sentinel]

hmm idk why but it seems sometimes when i fast travel between different zones my display depth flips upside down

[runic dove]

my main problem was the severe lack of levelling materials. broke as hell on them

[glossy compass]

Kinda unrelated but when I use DLAA my gpu uses all 575w and hits 85C TAAU is fine and DLSS performance is fine. Anybody else see this happening?

[elder sentinel]

no mine is normal

[muted thorn]

Dang, I'm sitting at a calm 50c and 323w in Wuling with DLAA

[runic dove]

yeah i'm fine here with 230W in wuling and DLAA

[arctic echo]

There's a number of areas where the bypass doesn't work properly cause there's different deferred lighting shaders. If you check the AO mask in those areas you'll likely see that it's applying to everything instead of skipping characters, fx, UI, etc.

[unkempt pulsar]

my gpu gets close to its power limit too when using DLAA at 4K yeah

it’s a 10L case so the fans get REAL loud lol

dropping down to dlss quality instantly makes the fans more quiet

[glossy compass]

The pain of sffpc’s but the extra desk space is so nice to have.

[unkempt pulsar]

ye i’m using it like a console under my tv so a normal sized pc isn’t really an option

[covert jetty]

Spiwar and Forge be like

[arctic echo]

How long must we languish in this terrible fog? When will salvation from smeary AO come?

[keen pagoda]

Is there any chance we will have renovk? dx11 hits the performance

[arctic echo]

Possible, but not much motivation unless Vulkan gets RT or something.

[rustic echo]

I think once they're finally done with dx11, they can spin up a VK build, but they're throwing all their free time squishing the remaining annoyances

[keen pagoda]

It doesn't have it?!

[rustic echo]

well...vulkan seems to be leaking a little slower, about it, and i think dx11 has some quirks as well

I think only @gloomy tulip knows if there's shader differences between vulkan and dx11 versions of Endfield. Maybe it's cleaner under the hood? maybe not?

[woeful raven]

lmao

[gloomy tulip]

Maybe I will experiment with using addon to provide data to reshade shader for custom AO

[gloomy tulip]

Grasses dont have motion vector sadge

Oh there is but need to multiply the uv velocity by 1000

[gloomy tulip]

Havent got fps drop by doing this yet which is a bless

[rustic echo]

wait, so you're making .1 of the whatever MV there is into a 1? this isn't DL-motion vectoring here lol, i wonder how it'll turn out

[gloomy tulip]

It's velocity in uv space

To get real velocity I need to multiply with screen size

[rustic echo]

oh so you're making a motion flow shader and hope the game can cope?

[dusky wave]

Same as Elden Ring

[dusky wave]

You doing the REST FFXIV strat?

Alexander was able to use game data/normals ect to feed for xegtao

[gloomy tulip]

It's just using addon to interface with reshade fx. No REST since it wouldnt work in vulkan anyway

[rustic echo]

I wonder if we'll ever have someone update REST, How do other games handle it?

there's a ton of dx12 renodx mods out there?

[dusky wave]

Ehh

We can just do the same thing as REST in Reno now

I have in mind to update a few addons with the bypass feature

[gloomy tulip]

Huge pain in vulkan/dx12 is reading descriptors to copy cbuffer values

[rustic echo]

shader toggler still magically works evertwhere

sad face

[brittle abyss]

That is a project I fully support.

[jovial tiger]

Didnt know Reshade and renodx used that much extra RAM

[dusky wave]

It's a game issue

The game by itself leaks

[jovial tiger]

Yeah ik just a coincidence it happened for the first time right after I installed reshade

Or could be because I switched to dx11

[dusky wave]

DX11 leaks more

But Miru found that VK also leaks just at a slower pace

Linoooxbros found that the games opens CEF processes constantly

[stable lava]

disabling/renaming CEF doesn't change anything

[dusky wave]

Get Kal to look into it

[delicate escarp]

Hey guys, may I ask how we can apply Reshade's fake ray tracing effects to Endfield based on Renodx HDR? Thank you.

🤓

[rustic echo]

set reshade UI bypass to off, then get coops SDR to HDR fx to wrap it

alternatively you can use REST and try to clamp the depth map

though it does change the image a bit due to umm... well different for everyone

[delicate escarp]

I've realized this is beyond my understanding, but thank you anyway.

😘

[spiral imp]

Speaking of leaks

Mine doesn't at all

And I've had 12hr sessions

[twin haven]

specs and dx11 no? and are you using latest nvidia driver or anything

[spiral imp]

7900xt

32gb ram 7600x

Latest drivers

4k settings

[halcyon crater]

I don't have memory leaks either and I've been playing for 6 hours now.

[twin haven]

maybe it's nvidia but i don't have the energy to search if it does

[twin haven]

amd or nvidia gpu

[halcyon crater]

Nvidia specifically 3070 and also latest drivers

[twin haven]

maybe an endfield update fixed it and also i got tired of looking at ram usage

https://tenor.com/view/nevertheless-octavian-morosan-kripparrian-nonetheless-regardless-gif-25178657

[halcyon crater]

If you clean the Working Set memory then you get your RAM back e.g using RAMMap, etc.

[proper leaf]

mine is leaking with a 4080 super on latest drivers

[twin haven]

idk what that means but it's just cleaning the ram cache to alleviate leak?

[mighty palm]

i didnt notice any leaking too on my 3080, but the game is making my CPU run a bit hot (78°C), so pc is quite loud due to fans...also even if the game has 20FPS limit (when it is alt-tabbed in the background) it doesnt help at all

but it runs like this even without renodx on vulkan...well maybe it runs slightly colder (by a 2°C)

[grizzled herald]

Mine gets to 30 GB VRAM in like 30 minutes. But I don't see performance dropping or textures not loading or nay other stuff. Is it safe for the GPU though?

[safe swallow]

I don't have any leaks on 6800xt

[arctic echo]

Difference between reserved RAM, that isn't being read from or written to, and unused RAM to the computer is basically none. Unless there's not enough of course.

[unkempt pulsar]

i do notice textures loading in slowly after teleporting

can’t tell whether that’s from the vram leak or just general game behaviour though

[stable lava]

it's just poor streaming

[unkempt pulsar]

yeah fair

[stable lava]

also happens on cutscene camera cuts

[unkempt pulsar]

it does, all the time

[stable lava]

game has poor streaming, abysmal popin, terrible dof rendering, no AO, shit shadow resolution
but it runs at 120fps on all gpus so it's optimized

[unkempt pulsar]

i find that interesting because for all these flaws it has, i find the ssr implementation one of the best i've seen

and boy do i hate ssr

[stable lava]

the ssr does look good yeah

plenty of details seen in the reflections

[unkempt pulsar]

the way it transitions from ssr to cube maps is about as good as it gets too

still, rt when

[stable lava]

rtao, rtgi, rt shadows, rt reflections

needs pt

[unkempt pulsar]

rtao/gi would be nice. i can't stand the artifacts from most ssao solutions so i haven't even been following that discussion in here

all of those though, please

is there a way to replace taau with something else or turn it off altogether btw? it demolishes performance on my steam deck in the few games i've tested it

[stable lava]

can't turn it off, can probably use optiscaler to replace dlss with fsr or xess though

[unkempt pulsar]

oh yeah

never used optiscaler before, much less on linux, but i'll look that up, thank you

[dusky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-interactive-optimization-optimize-unreal-engine-ue4-gif-18219894813206068623

It's perfect

[stable lava]

kevin wouldn't agree

it has forced TAA

[dusky wave]

I'll replace with decima jitter FXAA

Don't worry

[stable lava]

🙏

[gloomy tulip]

I’m a little bit into reshade based ao integration now. Have a plan to get the constant buffer values and final ao render target

[dusky wave]

Get it all working then we replace doodoo vanilla AO

Then I need to find a draw distance multiplier

Vanilla LODs are abysmal

[unkempt pulsar]

oh that would be great

the LODs are even worse on mobile. played a bit on my ipad, which can easily run the game on max mobile settings, but maaaannn

[dusky wave]

Super secret optimsation strat

Have 3 metre draw distance and 3 polygon distant LODs

[stable lava]

dof must be rendering at like 40p on mobile

[dusky wave]

I still haven't figured out what exactly is up with that

I dunno if they're feeding the DOF some abysmal res

I couldn't find much in the shaders themselves

[unkempt pulsar]

i don't even get the rt option on my ipad, at which point do i put on the tinfoil hat and call it a hoax

[dusky wave]

SDR / Reno

Theres greenish hues in the fog with SDR

[fluid patio]

Would love to see everyone's factories 🙏

[unkempt pulsar]

this was me trying to optimise for vertical space until i started running into the placement limit

now i can't even place ziplines anywhere on the map anymore

i'll prob tear this down and just use community blueprints, cba to account for some arbitrary limit i'm not even told about until i hit it

btw did i mess up settings or do the improved shadows generally not apply to the edges of the screen?

[steel cobalt]

perhaps this is a known issue but there are some shenanigans with the UID / Wifi hider. When the game is running in 4K it's hidden as intended, in 3840x1600 it doesn't get hidden anymore

[dusky wave]

I am modifying their screen spaced shadows. Imagine the edges of the G-buffer having a border or 'vignette' of sorts where the shadows don't apply

[arctic echo]

The DoF seems fine to me now. Not sure if that's cause I switched to TAAU at native res or it's mostly the early scenes where it's messed up

[dusky wave]

I don't know if I can solve this via reno

[dusky wave]

Hiders only work on 4K atm, Miru shared some code that hides it and it works for all resolutions

We'll get around to adding it

[steel cobalt]

thank you, this mod is so amazingly fantastic already

[arctic echo]

Though I guess it still doesn't look great. It's at least not so bad it doesn't even look like blur

[unkempt pulsar]

i see, thank you. it's a pretty large border and especially noticeable in those grinding areas, so i might just keep the option off

[tough halo]

I unistalled the game chat, wuwa is just unmatched

Does not give off the same combat feeling as wuwa

[gleaming osprey]

Yeah it's a bit more than executing your perfect rotation in this game compared to wuwa

[dusky wave]

Just got to Wuling

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

Let me upload addon with alt fog and bypass support

• Added support for alt fog in Power Plateau, operator quests and Wuling
• Added support for Reshade bypass in Power Plateau, operator quests and Wuling

[mighty palm]

is it possible to add a hotkey function for the "UI Visibility" switch in RenoDX settings?

[median robin]

Biggest news all day

[halcyon crater]

So you can install something like "Windows Memory Cleaner" and set it to clean the working set memory when the free physical memory is below x%

[dusky wave]

maybe? I will have to check with reshade since there is already the ability for hotkeys

[dusky wave]

@woeful raven look at this

its booootiful

[halcyon crater]

Wuling is insanely beautiful with HDR

[median robin]

the alt fog is such a game changer for Wuling holy shit

[narrow lagoon]

in reagrds to renodx setup- what file do i rename to d3d12.dll?

[glacial kayak]

reshade64.dll

the actual renodx add-on file just goes in the root directory next to that dll

[narrow lagoon]

for reshade setup i selected endfield.exe as my game, is that why i cant find resahde64.dll?

[unkempt pulsar]

don’t use the setup, extract it and copy the dll into the game directory manually

[dusky wave]

base / alt fog

unslops

[median robin]

base/alt

truly unslopped

All it does is have the fog retain some of the hue of the scene right?

cause that shits effective

base/alt fog

[dusky wave]

reduced transmission and retains original scene hues

so the fog haze doesnt just wash out everything

I am still working with their linear fog set up

making it better would require having actual volumetric fog

so I did what I could

[median robin]

you did great

[narrow lagoon]

okay so problem was that if i used install path as arknights.exe

it installs it as dxgi.dll

which after renamed to d3d12.dll? its all good

[dusky wave]

You know what isnt great

Miru....Save us from this AO hell

[median robin]

LOL

[narrow lagoon]

the game launches native dx12... not dx11...

[median robin]

Base/alt fog. Last comparison promise

honestly doesn't feel like the difference is as impactful in the screenshots as actually in game

flicking the switch back and forth really hits it home

@dusky wave this is happening in certain areas though

game might use different type of fog in areas where the fog is thicker?

recorded with shadowplay so excuse the colours

[narrow lagoon]

is this DX11 only?

cant launch game on dx12

tried again and worked

[median robin]

yes, the game doesn't support dx12. It's VK or DX11

[median robin]

another example

[dusky wave]

new shader

gib me a sec

[median robin]

no rush, just wanted to let you know

[dusky wave]

Cant wait to get to Endfield 3.0

and we have a trillion deferred shaders

thx to Clankers I can automate this

doing this manually would be

[median robin]

thx grok

[dusky wave]

• Added more deferred shaders for both alt fog and reshade bypass
• Also fixed an issue with shadows in Wuling

[idle notch]

Which gpu and which DLSS preset are you using?

[idle notch]

Yea I installed it just like that, it's working fine

[median robin]

still has some weirdness in transitions from less foggy to more foggy, but most seem to be fixed!

issue above happens with OG fog as well, nvm

just more noticeable with alt fog since the colour doesn't match as well I guess

[glossy compass]

5090 and Preset L. I reverted back to default preset and now it’s ok at 350W.

[idle notch]

Bruh
I swear man
It's always Preset L or Preset M causing all sorts of issues

[glossy compass]

Preset L = 100% GPU usage. I’m on linux so I don’t know if it happens on windows too.

[strong vault]

Preset L and M's cost scales with input resolution unlike other presets

Using at DLAA is overkill 💀

[glossy compass]

It’s why I got a 5090. Overkill is my middle name.

If it exists I enable.

[woeful raven]

Impressive

Very nice

I've just been hopping back on wuwa today

All real time cutscenes so good

[dusky wave]

• Added more deferred shaders for alt fog and reshade bypass
• Added UI visiblility hotkey

@mighty palm

[dusky wave]

This area was missing code, above has it now included

but some areas do have harsh transitions in vanilla, nothing I can do about that

Didnt realise I needed UI on/off hotkey

makes life for screenshots 100 times easier

[gloomy tulip]

TheAO is so bad

[dusky wave]

Save us

[woeful raven]

One day

[dusky wave]

disabling fog and replacing with reshade fog is off the tables

that would mean editing every fuking deferred shader

including the oens they use to build up the player characters

its split into 30 different shaders

just for characters

so every different part of the player model has a separate deferred shader

and each one is applying fog

[rustic echo]

Live with ReVeil funk

[fast topaz]

So now we're back to having to try and figure out how to solve the AO conflict with the in-game fog?

[woeful raven]

Never gone

[dusky wave]

The issue was never solved

Only Miru has a working method since he was modifying existing AO which renders before fog

[dusky wave]

but well, in-game AO looks like this

Luma would also be attrocious

[woeful raven]

Yeah but that was plagued with half res and motion vectors

[dusky wave]

You would need to redo the fog for every shader

You couldnt just do an easy shader split and use Luma to add a new pass just for fog

[gloomy tulip]

I’m sure that the fog color texture itself has fog factor in alpha channel

You can undo the fog blending if you have the fog texture I guess

[dusky wave]

oh yhhhhhhhh

Implemented Miru's hud toggle

No more latency bar

and works with every res

very based

[gloomy tulip]

Nice

[dusky wave]

ty

• Added even more deferred shaders
• Cleaned up reno menu
• Added new UID / latency bar toggle that werks with every res (thx to Miru)

There are issues with latency bar toggle

[fiery raft]

now "UID Text" includes uid AND ping while "Ping Text" only includes the ping icon lmao

[dusky wave]

Well the text is part of the same shader whilst the bar icon is part of another

I cba to split up the text right now

I will just change the setting name ot latency bar

[fiery raft]

but the previous two versions had "UID Text" for uid and "Ping Text" for the ping counter without the ping icon. why did the separation work there?

[dusky wave]

we were doing screen res UV

which is why i didnt work for any res other than 4K

You tell 'dont render this part of the uv'

but we cant do that with the latency bar icon because it is part of a larger UI shader

that has other icon textures such as a vignette and surrounding desings, using UV method would leave a cut out hole if you toggled off bar icon

[fiery raft]

i dont speak tech, unfortunately. whats uv?

[dusky wave]

2D coordinate system

[fiery raft]

ah thanks

[dusky wave]

its how you map textures onto 3d mesh

well in this case 2d UI textures onto the screen

[fiery raft]

so your approach is to just hide anything from the ui in a given area of pixels?

[dusky wave]

with previous method, yes but it has the above limitations plus you have to change it per resolution, aspect ratio ect since the 'area of pixels' has changed

Miru's method is heuristic, we detect UI via draw calls. For latency bar it is 18 indices, first_index=0

when you toggle off, on_draw callbacks return false

and hides that element

I didnt think about it

Miru pointed that one out

[dusky wave]

OK fellas

whats next

What if I disable vanilla DoF and we instead feed reshade based DoF game data

[rustic echo]

since DoF is limited, the and situation is almost always controlled, but umm... do they use different strengths in different areas?

[dusky wave]

something like that

DoF is only applied during cutscenes

I havent seen it be used outside of this

I dont want to slap on a constant DoF but if I use game data at the very least it will be dynamic to the intent

just fixed without the pixelation

[twin haven]

imagine you guys fixed DoF pixelation before devs

[dusky wave]

Cant wait for patch 1.1 to arrive and delete 80% of this addon

[rustic echo]

if they didn't fix it after2 CBTs i dont' think their workflow is due to fix it

well depends on their revenue...they might do death march like wuwa 1.1

[twin haven]

can i know the gist of that death march?

[serene bridge]

theres a bug with the ping icon also removing the vignette, not that I care for the vignette, but it actually turns on and off which is distracting

[rustic echo]

publically they pushed "2.0" date up like crazy, they made a ton of promises, and in the background there's rumbling of tencent pretty much buying them out as majority share holder. the more back end things were from CN social media, with reports of employees working around the clock sleeping at their desk, etc.

[serene bridge]

example of it turning on/off

[dusky wave]

[rustic echo]

and well, you saw what happen, a tons of promises, a lot of freebies, and basically did revamp wuwa in a short amount of time

[rustic echo]

ya the shaders offsets are wack lol, oh well

[twin haven]

fortunately they've turned things around now

[rustic echo]

I don't know about player's choice or whatever, but wuwa is still crap to me. They fixed glaring issues, but core issues is...it's just a hardcore genshin clone with nonsensicial story, and too many combat buttons, for enthusists. Oh and what is optimization.

TLDR genshin falling asleep on the throne rather then wuwa being good. It's just a more modern ask from genshin fans

[twin haven]

that's fair, im just playing for graphics and feels

[rustic echo]

it's free~

and decently low upkeep

[covert jetty]

Interestingly I don't seem to have this issue?

Ah wait no, it just wasn't affecting the scene I was in

[gloomy tulip]

Thats odd, I hid it just fine in convo screen

[dusky wave]

Maybe I made an oopsie

[dusky wave]

does this only happen in cutscenes or does it also affect general convos like what Miru posted above?

also... WTF why does Wuling have soo many deferred shader permutations

I move 3 metres and alt fog is bugging out between vanilla and alt

[rustic echo]

the game knows you hate fog, so fog tries it's best to resist you

[serene bridge]

cutscenes only, general convos the vignette stays on

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm how do i find a cutscene now. Was playing yesterday and had cutscenes, vignette was fine too

[serene bridge]

I was doing the yvonne quest when that happened

[gloomy tulip]

I just talked to her about strange sound I think

[dusky wave]

I tested a cutscene just now

Doesn't happen

Ummm

The constant on/off doesn't occur

And toggling off the bar manually doesnt hide vignette either

Yvonne quest isolated case mayhaps?

[serene bridge]

might be location based, not happening after switched maps on the next part of teh quest

[rustic echo]

I mean UID asside, ping isn't really that distracting

[dusky wave]

It was annoying for screenshooting since I'd have to quickly open up the menu and slide the UI Vis toggle to off

But with the UI toggle hotkey in, I can skip all of that now

Still, people asked for an ability to hide the bar

What if I make reshade's screenshot capture bypass UI so you don't even need to toggle UI off

[rustic echo]

eehh UI toggle superior

as long as easy upkeep

like taking videos

[rustic echo]

btw is the particle/fx shaders an easy find in Rest, or are they really messy to isolate?

[gloomy tulip]

https://github.com/mlleemiles/renodx/blob/vulkan-endfield/src/games/endfield/addon.cpp

Btw my messy code is here

[covert jetty]

I got it at this random plaque outside Yvonne's room

[dusky wave]

All over, one shader is handling particles, another FX, another glowing stripes used by zipelines or AIC

They all happen after deferred

Just before bloom and DoF

[rustic echo]

boo, so I like my rehade before UI and effects, but include characters. I try to exclude sky, but doesn't seem possible as well

[gloomy tulip]

Thats just generic convo too

[rustic echo]

I really like adding some shader tricks to characters for more GI like feel

but that HDR sky....

[gloomy tulip]

Same research center

[gloomy tulip]

Okay here

[woeful raven]

meanwhile uberpostsloppers

[potent roost]

This tool can hide uid and ping, but unfortunately, it won't release its source code

[gloomy tulip]

With slop code I got final AO's resource view as well

That means I can use reshade to render AO to it, but its vulkan specific because I captured it with on barrier

[covert jetty]

Are we somehow all doing Yvonne's quest today?

[potent roost]

side quests have all been cleared

time to move on to the main character quests and enjoy them

[brittle abyss]

You guys remind me of my factory. You cook overnight, I rip the benefits in the morning. I like this relationship we've got going 😂

[rustic echo]

wtf, there's a tons of them, especially as you open the region areas for their quests...that's some long playtime

[potent roost]

If the plot is boring, just skip it

Reading all the plot is too torturous

[gloomy tulip]

It's alright, it compliments the gameplay enough that I want to keep playing

[median robin]

I read all the plot

[rustic echo]

I mean people sht on the plot, but those people are probably gacha pullers that need every single pice

the story is slow-ish, low key problem solvers, but the writing isn't horrible and you're basically problem solvers most of the time

it's kinda heart warming

the sidestories really do bring the themes back well.

[median robin]

I mean Valley IV story is not amazing, but they are not trying to be either. It's more just setup and introduction to the world and characters

Wuling has already picked up quite a bit

I like it

[rustic echo]

Like old school JRPGs, it's usually happy go lucky mode for first 10hrs or more

[median robin]

also this is the first gachaslop game I've played with english voices which has so many different accents for different regions. Adds a really nice immersive touch

[rustic echo]

they could do better, but ehh...i don't hate warm fuzzy feeling Slice of life moments

everyone's a bro helping each other out.

[median robin]

I do enjoy how goofy the endmin is lmao

👍

[gloomy tulip]

This AO makes me cry

[rustic echo]

that looks really good...

[gloomy tulip]

Check 100% zoom in

😭

[rustic echo]

wait that's true to life resolution?

[gloomy tulip]

Thats the upsacled 1920x1080 AO

[rustic echo]

holy..

so we have to live on luminite RTAO forever?

[gloomy tulip]

Which AO are you guys using?

[rustic echo]

reshade. the ReViel.fx sorta fixes fog

at least fixes it enough to not be obvious, to good

[median robin]

Can confirm it happens in a normal convo after delivering a package in the science park, no cutscene

[gloomy tulip]

Got drawing onto AO in vulkan now

All slop code

Just drawing garbage to test

[twin haven]

now THAT'S contrast /s

look at the perfect black level floor or BLF!

[gloomy tulip]

I guess it works

Original

[rustic echo]

any reason it's SCAO?

[gloomy tulip]

Cause RTAO doesnt want to compile

[rustic echo]

oh interesting

but looks good?

hard to tell

the grass does look a little umm low res?

[gloomy tulip]

It's just like what you get from using normal AO in reshade I guess but it wont apply inside fog and to characters, although I dunno how they do blending

My code is barely held together by duct taps

[rustic echo]

sounds golden

i mean we can always swap AO, as long as it compiles anyway.

[gloomy tulip]

It doesnt allow you to use GI stuff tho, only AO because I made all effects render onto AO now

[rustic echo]

problem for the future, GI is way too complex anyway, as most creators build in various tricks that take in the entire scene

[gloomy tulip]

Like it would be better if I just write my own fxs but I want to play the game bruh

[rustic echo]

lol you still have to merge with forge haha

are the shaders in vulkan same as D11?

[gloomy tulip]

No, the internal of the api very different

[rustic echo]

oopf that might make porting over to vulkan difficult then

[gloomy tulip]

I mean internally how dx11 handles shader pipeline is very different from dx12 and vulkan

[potent roost]

@dusky wave

[unkempt pulsar]

I'm also getting this issue, but for me, the vignette under the text is gone only until the little arrow below appears

-# dunno why steam recordings make my mouse look so laggy

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm yeah I also start getting it now wtf 😭

[idle notch]

i found my brother

[covert jetty]

Can run Endfield for days on that bad boy

[idle notch]

lmfao

[gloomy tulip]

I think its race condition against renodx's own on draw indexed event

[rustic echo]

meaning you're trying to insert in and not modifying?

i know dx11 has that whole camera thing going on with shaders

[gloomy tulip]

⁨```cpp
bool OnDrawIndexed(
reshade::api::command_list* cmd_list,
uint32_t index_count,
uint32_t instance_count,
uint32_t first_index,
int32_t vertex_offset,
uint32_t first_instance) {

// so that we don't check run every single draw indexed call

/*
if (isUIPass)
{
constexpr uint32_t PING_INDEX_COUNT = 18;
constexpr uint32_t PING_FIRST_INDEX = 0;
constexpr int32_t PING_VERTEX_OFFSET = 0;
constexpr uint32_t UID_FIRST_INDEX = 18;

    isPingInputCandidate = (index_count == PING_INDEX_COUNT) && 
                           (first_index == PING_FIRST_INDEX) && 
                           (vertex_offset == PING_VERTEX_OFFSET);

    isUIDInputCandidate = (first_index == UID_FIRST_INDEX) && isPingDrawn;
}
*/

auto* shader_state = renodx::utils::shader::GetCurrentState(cmd_list);

auto* pixel_state = renodx::utils::shader::GetCurrentPixelState(shader_state);

auto pixel_shader_hash = renodx::utils::shader::GetCurrentPixelShaderHash(pixel_state);
if (pixel_shader_hash == 0xEFE8303C)
{
constexpr uint32_t PING_INDEX_COUNT = 18;
constexpr uint32_t PING_FIRST_INDEX = 0;
constexpr int32_t PING_VERTEX_OFFSET = 0;
constexpr uint32_t UID_FIRST_INDEX = 18;
isUIPass = true;
isPingInputCandidate = (index_count == PING_INDEX_COUNT) &&
(first_index == PING_FIRST_INDEX) &&
(vertex_offset == PING_VERTEX_OFFSET);
return isPingInputCandidate && (use_ping == 0.0f);
}
else if (pixel_shader_hash == 0x92BB9EA9)
{
constexpr uint32_t UID_FIRST_INDEX = 18;
isUIDInputCandidate = (first_index == UID_FIRST_INDEX) && isPingInputCandidate;
return isUIDInputCandidate && (use_uid == 0.0f);
}
else
{
return false;
}
}

it should be fine if we are just doing our own on draw indexed without shader callback

[gloomy tulip]

https://github.com/mlleemiles/renodx/commit/a861fbc96205b3fe66bfea4d193fcc26db5d066d

My repo code included the slop code for AO/NormalWorldSpace/Depth buffer access to reshade

[dusky wave]

I tested this

yvonne plaque is fine but I went outside near the stock distrubtion

and that still has on/off issues

[gloomy tulip]

Weird did you remove the original shader callbacks

[gloomy tulip]

Can you send map coordinate hmm

[dusky wave]

for 4K?

float2 uv = v0.xy / float2(3840.0f, 2160.0f);

// Ping: bottom-left
bool isPing = (uv.x >= 0.02f && uv.x <= 0.05f) && (uv.y >= 0.97f);

// UID: just to the right of ping
bool isUuid = (uv.x >= 0.05f && uv.x <= 0.13f) && (uv.y >= 0.97f);

spiwar did the above

but this was only for hiding the text

not the bar icon

[gloomy tulip]

I meant where the exchange is located in the map XD

[dusky wave]

one sec

[gloomy tulip]

I think i found it tho

[dusky wave]

its outside of the TP

inside of science park

[gloomy tulip]

I dunno why this will happen tho, I took another frame capture with this exactly interface, no other UI draws have 18 indices

In dx11 its probably super easy to check the bound texture and hash it

Oh yeah it happened to me as well 🙁

[dusky wave]

[gloomy tulip]

The game kept leaking memory into 32GB after loading into the world

Not even using reshade

[stark shuttle]

hey idk if this was already reported but i just noticed that hiding the ping text also hides quest marker

[dusky wave]

yh its rip

We will need to figure out other ways

[gloomy tulip]

Thats so weird maybe reshade hook is F

The vignette isnt even a draw indexed call

[fluid patio]

Not sure if it's been reported but hiding the hid does not hide the character portrait on the top right during a call

[dusky wave]

ahhhhhh

bunch of stuff I have to fix today

@fluid patio to make my life easier could you grab this

next time you're in a scene

Go to the devkit tab, press snapshot (to capture shaders used in a scene), toggle off and on the draw button feature until the phone call portrait disappears

UI shaders will be at the bottom, only look at the numbered ones (3 digit number next to Draw button), if they dont have numbers, they are not being used in a scene currently so ignore

After that click the 'More' button and then 'Dump Binary'. A new folder in the game directory will appear called renodx-dev (inside you will find a dump folder that contains the shader)

[gloomy tulip]

F this vignette draw is the same as ping indicator

Maybe I need to use constants to tell the shader this is ping candidate and check size of the input texture in shader to skip

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/richard-attenborough-whip-whipped-whiplash-whiplashed-gif-16890874512241116786

[strong vault]

Hiding UID text leads to this

Oh its just hiding ping causes it

[unkempt pulsar]

hiding the ping icon is evil

[dusky wave]

U vill use ze ping icon

Me and Miru are looking into it

Well I am looking into fixing DoF

too many issues to fix

[stable lava]

i believe in you

[twin haven]

https://tenor.com/view/not-worthy-hail-waynes-world-gif-10000321

[meager igloo]

so if using Lumenite RTAO, should I set native AO to lowest?

[fluid patio]

Just saw this, will check it out and get back to you

If I'm being honest though, I've yet to come across an important or visually stunning cutscene where that story function was being used

So might not be the most necessary thing to fix

@dusky wave The devkit doesn't acually activate hdr nor do the normal addon settings appear anywhere I can tell

[dusky wave]

You use devkit alongside reno

[fluid patio]

ohhhhhhhhh

[dusky wave]

devkit is a separate addon

[fluid patio]

Do I need to do anything specific once I get to a scene with the texture in question?

[dusky wave]

^

[fluid patio]

I'm blind, thank you

@dusky wave I don't see a draw button but I clicked on one randomly and the preview matches the item that's still shown

[arctic echo]

Latest build seems to not be pinned.

[dusky wave]

dump that shader and send me the .cso

[fluid patio]

I don't think it's the right shader, I had the ui toggled off at the time and it's part of the DrawIndexed categories

At the risk of further sounding like a commoner dunce: I can't toggle on and off anything like you mentioned in the instructions, there's no "draw" button that turns things on and off from what I can see but the drop downs labeled "Draw" under the "Type" column only expand and close the listing. That picture I just posted is from a "DrawIndex" RTV0 resource

[fluid patio]

I see.. I was only in the first "Snapshot" area and not the "Shaders" section....

This I can work with, hell yea

[fluid patio]

@dusky wave I shot you a DM, lmk if there's anything more I can do later

[warm island]

Hey thank you so much @Forge HDR looks amazing
Now unrelated but :
I found this FPS unlocker : https://github.com/EightySixK/Arknights-Endfield-FPS-Unlocker
But there are some detections on virustotal.. https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/cda86b2ce271c8c85c54a78c0d1434edc368e92502faa3d94c9ad57d429a9048/behavior
Maybe some false positives but... What do you guys think ?
If only I could read the behavior tab on virustotal.com..

[woeful raven]

The source code is available on github mate

[dusky wave]

RenoDX also gets flag as a virus by Nexus if compiled with clang

[stable lava]

anything that injects code/modify addresses can be seen as malicious

[dusky wave]

Indeed

I am secretly extract all your monie

It's why the game leaks

[dusky wave]

How to truly know if theres malicious code in software is you'll have to check source code or reverse via IDA

If something like Reno turned out to be geniunely malicious, Shortfuse would get disowed everywhere. Not really his aims and source code reveals all for this project

[warm island]

I mean, I know what an IF statement is, but that's about it haha
Still I looked at the code, I asked Gemini to take a look too, and it looks clean
But with 0 knowledge it's a bit scary to download random .exes ^^

[median robin]

I've used the fps unlocker and my PC is still fine. But then again my word is just another random stranger on the internet

[woeful raven]

then compile the thing yourself

@dusky wave aight are you doing anything

pr le changes to ze gith00b will ye

haven't made anything new so you wouldn't have to rebase probably

[dusky wave]

a bunch of shit yh

added UI toggle hotkey

added more deferred shaders

fixed stuff

Trying to add Miru's AO,depth and normal buffer read for AO use

[woeful raven]

cuhrayzee

that refreshed copilot limit supercharge

[woeful raven]

like can we draw the AO back into the game's UAV

or are you trying to just read the AO data and feed to reshade

[dusky wave]

both

Miru said his method allows reshade AO to draw before fog

UID and latency bar hiding now works with all resolutions

but latency bar hiding has issues specifically

[tidal finch]

Why are you guys not working on one repo

😭

[dusky wave]

@woeful raven

@gloomy tulip

I think DX11 is just cooked

Same shit was happening when I tried simple on_draw for deferred shaders way back

VK barriers can avoid this (from what I understand)

but DX11 is just borked becasue render_effects() changes D3D11 states and corrupts the whole thing

welp

[strong vault]

do we migrate to vulkan now 😭

[woeful raven]

no

[woeful raven]

maybe its time to ask labs

[dusky wave]

this makes my monitor make funny noises

The actual monitor itself starts bugging out and making a constant rapid ticking noise

💀

zip bomb addon build

[woeful raven]

ABL stroke

between 1 and 100%

[dusky wave]

Miru is Labs in this case

Either we move to Luma or we VK

(I dont want to do either atm)

[woeful raven]

yeah

me neither

hopefully they add rt next patch

so there's some

actual motivation

[stable lava]

[woeful raven]

?

[brittle kiln]

👁️

[strong vault]

wait what

[stable lava]

i don't want to do vk
slops up the addon in an hour

[dusky wave]

[strong vault]

Idk if I did something wrong but the game just launched in SDR

Can see the renodx tab but nothing is working

[dusky wave]

its 1st of Feb

so Clanker limit has been refreshed

[stable lava]

praise the clankers

[woeful raven]

ya i can actually read the lutbuilder now

regardless i only patched the lutbuilder because i was bored

not gonna do the rest

[dusky wave]

You get VK

but only LUTbuilder

No shadows, no alt fog

no UI toggle

[woeful raven]

yea

its a meme build

hence only lutbuilder

not gonna bother doing the rest

neutwo isn't even in vk branch yet

so if i seriously do this i have to change all the code back to termite spleen

and so i stopped

[dusky wave]

I failed to added better AO or DoF today

Need someone to leak HyperGrypth source code

[strong vault]

If better AO or DOF failed how about nuking AO and DOF completely

[median robin]

I can send email and ask them to send it over

[dusky wave]

I can nuke DoF via toggle off

which is what I did

then I tried feeding game data

using original game depth and DoF settings

Otis CinematicDOF has a loicense we can use

and it supports HDR

but I fuked up somewhere and it didnt work

but it looked berry nice

[woeful raven]

from a maintainer perspective we also shouldn't add too much features

patch cycle for this game is longer than the 42 days of the other 3d gacha games

but if they change the shaders it will be an ass to fix

[dusky wave]

fella is out here modding the game as if its a single player game which already had its final update

patch 1.1 about to hit us like a brickwall

[woeful raven]

on the other hand if they change the shaders they usually only change the uberpost

so its only me back at the mines

[runic dove]

out of morbid curiosity how much changes in these types of games

(apart from new regions needing to be un-fucked)

[woeful raven]

^

speaking of which this week is new wuwa patch

[runic dove]

170 gigs after predownload

[rustic echo]

So we dead in the water for everything again? super sad.

[fast topaz]

If you guys decide to play this long term you'll probably have to tackle the VK build sooner or later.
DX11 is a deprecated fallback from the start.

[glacial kayak]

they'll fix the AO you guys are spending so much time on but it'll be vulkan exclusive

[rustic echo]

honestly they will fix nothing, except maybe motion vectors for DLSS. They are being praised for their performance, and visuals, so they would likely sit on the "what is AO?" issue

[waxen delta]

I'm not entirely sure how technically ambitious Hypergryph is going to be

Kuro are the only ones who are pushing visuals every patch at the expense of performance lol

[rustic echo]

Playstation will push them on RT and HDR, is about it.

[waxen delta]

if we get native HDR and RT, I'll take it 🤷‍♂️

especially if it's good HDR

small hope like always

[rustic echo]

it would be half ass RT, like RT reflections of wwm

and PCs won't have it~

[waxen delta]

lol, probably

RT has been in beta in Zenless for like 4 patches now on PC lol

[woeful raven]

duh

we said before

[rustic echo]

i mean if it's wwm HDR...eeeeeh

[woeful raven]

we'll move to VK once there is a significant reason to

[waxen delta]

WWM HDR is so weird

[rustic echo]

I mean, the mod is kinda ok at this point, it's all fluff...and cope AO, which is achieved with brute force lumenite

just gotta fix all the depth mask flipping areas

[dusky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[rustic echo]

what setting do you use for trueHDR400? 400 peak or 1k peak?

[dusky wave]

TB400?

well 400 peak

musa then runs 100 for game brightness

lower UI brightness as well

[rustic echo]

is eotf an issue for peak 1k?

for endfield i mean

[dusky wave]

well all monitors are cope for peak 1000

the newer TB500 displays this year handle it better

[rustic echo]

there's like only 1 model tb500 or something haha

well there are TVs

endfield looks good on peak 1k? or better to goto TB400?

[dusky wave]

400 vs 1000

There will be some clamping at parts like in the sky

but 400nits with Reno is still better than SDRslop

@woeful raven look at this

RT cant come soon enough

moving the camera incurs the slopAO

[glacial kayak]

It was mostly a joke to get them to work on vk

[dusky wave]

Kibbles actually said he'll work on the addon initally

[idle notch]

hellyea
running it on miniled, can hit 1260 nits full screen
so i do lose on the microcontrast (like those guiding butterflies look crazy good on OLED
but overall, its worth it
i've tried running it on my android's oled but cant get the apollo-artemis to trigger HDR on my mobile :(

[glacial kayak]

And then you and spiwar took it over during the cbt

Stonks

[dusky wave]

YOU SHOULD BE SUFFERING HERE NOT MEEEE

freeloaders riding off our hard work

[rustic echo]

TBF, Endfield HDR looks way better then we orginally thought, so effort is all worth it?

there are a ton of games that go "HDR is cool and all, but meh"

[idle notch]

wtf 💀

oh i might have forgotten to delete the dx11 addon 🥟

[rustic echo]

Oh ya… somehow the dx 11 doesn’t crash on vk anymore

[woeful raven]

ya we ain't doing shit

VK comes kibbles will do all the work

[idle notch]

train me senpai
i handle the grind 🫡

[rustic echo]

imagine if all the sht forge was getting stuck on, VK build solves it, and then table flip on all the work he spent debugging and failing?

[idle notch]

just gotta mash my keyboard few times and it will spit out an addon right?

-# jk

[covert jetty]

As long as you're mashing keyboard in a Copilot prompt window

[glacial kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-30000-arknights-arknights-endfield-perlica-gif-604696076763371309

[idle notch]

lets mash keyboard in codex gemini and copilot
war of clankers, lets see which clanker comes up with the best addon 🗣️ 💥

[idle notch]

/give SgtKibbles $30000

check bank account easy

[dusky wave]

Getting clanker to spit out code is easy

The problem is making sure it works and debugging

As well as knowing what to prompt and providing correct info

[idle notch]

just bribe the clanker with freedom

[dusky wave]

Grok make HDR

[idle notch]

gork make it look good
pinky promise you're gonna make it look pretty 👉 👈

Jokes aside though
My brother has a subscription for codex and gemini pro
I wonder if any of those can help in this project

[dusky wave]

Oh it'll make it good

'Uses ACES as base tonemapper because le film industry uses it therefore good'

[rustic echo]

generally AI slop don't improve just because you pay

[idle notch]

ryal 🥀
He got gemini pro for free though 💀

Codex because, well he is dumb

[woeful raven]

getting gemini to spit out working slang from glsl

both 3 flash and 3 pro failed

claude required manual edits anyways

[dusky wave]

• Moar deferred shaders added hopefully the last
• latency bar hiding is still borked so probably dont use it

[dusky wave]

This is the same as what I have PR'ed

Time to update Github snapshots

and bananaslop

[woeful raven]

Guess I'll slop out the uberpost build

For dlss

[dusky wave]

Wuling city combat OST is

https://tenor.com/view/kid-meme-dancing-37-nation-gif-5514765

[woeful raven]

uberpost bypass build
for changelogs: check #1440801914165002322 message

Why there are two versions in pins:
normal version (forge's) with reshade bypass done earlier in pipeline. Use this version if you plan to play in native resolution. AO will apply before DoF and many post effects, resulting in less artifacts.
alternative version with reshade bypass done in uberpost. Use this version if you plan to use upscaling. AO will apply just before UI.

[idle notch]

btw guys
How does reducing exposure differ from reducing Game brightness in nits?
or is it literally the same thing

[rustic echo]

think spiwar is out of caffine, didn't add alt this time haha

[rustic echo]

look up at the sky...most notablity outside Rhodagan is telling as a debug example

depending on your Monitor you may not need to play with explosure at all, but if the highlights are getting blown up, exposure will solve it, instead of trying to play with hightlights as a last resort

you can kind dial in with game-brightness vs exposure, then maybe a bit of scene grading or saturation

but 99% of the time, you don't nee to touch it, just exposure up or down, im game brightness up or down

[idle notch]

highlights are fine, my monitor clips beyond 1260
its just that the game overall feels a tad bit too bright as im in a dark room
reducing the game brightness to 150 nits or changing exposure to 0.75, both seem to achieve the same result
thas why me confused

[mild hazel]

Has anyone tried adjusting HDR to make it brighter? The sky in Wuling is still not bright enough. My 1600 nit peak screen is only using around 1100, even though I've already increased the "Highlights".

[rustic echo]

exposure > brightness would be the play here. Look at your character's skin tons like in teams menu, to check you didn't over do it, can fix it with a bit of saturation, but best to not touch color unless needed

[idle notch]

also where is rhodagan
i forgor

[woeful raven]

they're the same thing

[woeful raven]

they're the same thing

[rustic echo]

valley pass boss

[mild hazel]

Adjusting the excessive exposure can also cause the characters to overexpose.

[idle notch]

ah ty

[rustic echo]

are they, since my monitor is crappy, exposure fixed what brightness couldn't

[idle notch]

my goat

[idle notch]

how about reducing exposure and then increasing highlights

[woeful raven]

you dont need to hit peak all the time

the range is there

if an object needs it

[rustic echo]

i always come here to test my settings..if anything breaks it's this sky

there is so much detail in that sky, it really tests your monitor and settings

[mild hazel]

Some FX can reach this range, but most of the scenes are below 500 nit.

[woeful raven]

yes that's what the range is for bud

high dynamic range is not blasting 1.6k nits all the time

[mild hazel]

Actually, what I want to achieve is something like RTXHDR, which has a more visually impactful effect🤨

[woeful raven]

then just use RTX HDR?

[idle notch]

holy mine is NOT THAT bright 💀

[rustic echo]

there are a ton of reshade shaders...

[jagged gyro]

if he wants to achieve rtx hdr why not just that tho

[mild hazel]

RTX HDR at first glance looks very good, but the details are not as good as RenoDX

[woeful raven]

120 game brightness 2.0 exposure
240 game brightness 1.0 exposure

makes no difference

do you have a very low peak brightness

or is running in sdr mode?

[rustic echo]

ya my monitor is meh

[mild hazel]

I would like to know which parameters I can adjust. I have tried both exposure and paper white settings.

[rustic echo]

but just me i see 240 has some hazing over for me

but yes close

[woeful raven]

the thing is

i dont even know which image is 120 and 240

[rustic echo]

let me see if the rest of the stage doesn't blow up if I set exposure to 1

[woeful raven]

so the order could be flipped

[rustic echo]

ya my skin tones doesn't like just messing with game brightness

welp as long as it works

either or

[woeful raven]

time to upgrade monitor

[mild hazel]

Is it because the game developers took into account the sdr viewing experience that there won't be too many areas with brightness exceeding 500 nit?

[rustic echo]

trying. not for lack of wallet, but I need those new CES models to come out

[woeful raven]

game developer has no idea how the game would look with hdr

[rustic echo]

@mild hazel

so ya...it's not huge, but there's a decent amount of it

[woeful raven]

the grading sliders are there for you to make it look like rtx hdr

[rustic echo]

I've been using this right now...so far for whatever reason Radiant hasn't kill my HDR

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm why do I keep hearing the motion vector being broken for DLSS

What’s wrong with it

The in game motion vector is converted to uv space raw velocity to DLSS, I don’t see anything wrong

[rustic echo]

post processing effects it seems isn't being pass properly to DLSS, so you get super low res arifacts

[woeful raven]

#1440801914165002322 message

[rustic echo]

like it's SSR is bonked on deijang in DLSS any mode

[gloomy tulip]

Like I don’t see what’s wrong xd

[rustic echo]

let me find a spot

TAAU:

DLSS:

[grizzled saddle]

Updated branch

[jagged gyro]

huh thats why ssr looks so fucky with dlss on? interesting

[rustic echo]

DLAA: you can't see it so much in stills but it's noise artifacting

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm so you think the ghosting is bad in DLSS, I saw that in the videos now

[rustic echo]

99% DLAA should at least be similar to TAAU if not better...but not in Endfield

whatever is being passed to DLSS...is not right

[gloomy tulip]

The only potential issue i see with motion vector in this game is that the game doesn’t undo jitter when calculating previous uv

Very weird

[dusky wave]

the sun is capped at 400nits and is a flat sun disk, why? because SDR clipped it all away anyways

Reno exposes holes and seems in distance terrain

because sdr hue shifting and clamping hides it all away

[rustic echo]

I mean 400 nits isn't bad?

[gloomy tulip]

After a lot of testing I don’t think i can reliably disable the ping indicator from cpu code alone

Unless tracing descriptor table data

[rustic echo]

I think forge is more sad he can't use miru's AO code

[gloomy tulip]

The other option is to pass if the current shader pass is potential a ping indicator

Then in the shader I will use shader code to check the dimension of the input texture

If it’s 4x4 and I will discard it

[gloomy tulip]

slop idea

[dusky wave]

@rustic echo

SDR slopped away the sun here

so in HDR it just looks awful

flat ass pancake in the sky

[rustic echo]

it also f-ing with grass shimmering. TAAU has zero...but unless you're playing with reshade stuff, probably hard to notice

[gloomy tulip]

I’ve been playing with DLAA I haven’t seen bad aritifacting yet

TAAU is really blurry in motion compared to it

[rustic echo]

umm try that location in deijang...

but ya maybe motion problems, idk, i haven't perticularly tested vs DLAA

mostly DLSS vs TAAU

[gloomy tulip]

Lemme look up what DLSS needs for it’s motion vector

[jagged gyro]

DLAA isnt too bad from what ive seen. dlss is definitely cooked though

shimmering and low res artifacts are super noticeable esp w/water areas in wuling

[dusky wave]

AO having inertia

woggling around as you move the camera

[gloomy tulip]

Might need to check this

Endfield is normalized -1,1

[rustic echo]

Hmm...weird why is RadiantGI working so well in HDR...or just my crappy monitor unable to see the inperfections in the tonemap

[gloomy tulip]

Wtf it’s set to resolution for mv scale

[gloomy tulip]

I dunno if any dev can confirm whether to set to 1 for -1,1 motion vector

[rustic echo]

I mean if you can mod it, just override it and see what happens?

[gloomy tulip]

Will try when I got home I guess

[mild hazel]

just like? I'm new to use reshade, and only add LSAO for now

[rustic echo]

I've been testing this for now, it's light enough i can TAAU and still get decently pleasing RT fakery

[mild hazel]

Thank, I'll give it a try

[rustic echo]

for comparison here's RTGI

only thing sux about radientGI is that you have to completely manual set the depthmap...which took me a while to get it decently...ok

[glossy compass]

If I have a monitor (XG32UCWMG) that peaks at 1300 but calibrates at 450 is there a correct way to set up HDR?

I tried setting peak at 450 but I felt there was no range at all. I reduced game to 110 and every was dull/flat no colour.

Setting 1250 peak looks slightly blown out e.g. when light hits text, it disappears when it was still readable at 450 peak.

I currently have peak set to 750 which is the 10% window size brightness.

Is HDR just preference at this point? I don't even know what HDR should look like.

TLDR I have scorched eyes from high brightness screens.

[woeful raven]

#🆘helpdesk

[rustic echo]

likely heh

but I think most novice should just set it to true black400 mode (or whatever your monitor is rated to), and forget the rest, and focus on reno

[fluid patio]

The feedback that no one ask for: as long as the vk build has good hdr and can hide the ui for screenshots, that's all anyone should ask for

[strong vault]

I love my improved shadows

[gloomy tulip]

Thats nothing burger it seems. NGX params are different than streamline so using resolution is correct

[rustic echo]

sad face, but they only added dlss like 2months before the game launched...so some shoehorning in there is likely

[gloomy tulip]

The mv provided to dlss is fine

[gloomy tulip]

So about the ping indicator code, i dunno if its a bug in reshade's hook, but it seems like a previous draw call (not draw indexed) will affect the index count of current draw indexed call

⁨⁨```cpp
#ifdef REMOVE_UI
bool OnDraw(reshade::api::command_list *cmd_list, uint32_t vertex_count, uint32_t instance_count, uint32_t first_vertex, uint32_t first_instance)
{
drawCallVertexCount = vertex_count;
return false;

}

bool OnDrawIndexed(
reshade::api::command_list* cmd_list,
uint32_t index_count,
uint32_t instance_count,
uint32_t first_index,
int32_t vertex_offset,
uint32_t first_instance) {
auto* shader_state = renodx::utils::shader::GetCurrentState(cmd_list);

auto* pixel_state = renodx::utils::shader::GetCurrentPixelState(shader_state);

auto pixel_shader_hash = renodx::utils::shader::GetCurrentPixelShaderHash(pixel_state);
if (pixel_shader_hash == 0xEFE8303C)
{
constexpr uint32_t PING_INDEX_COUNT = 18;
constexpr uint32_t PING_FIRST_INDEX = 0;
constexpr int32_t PING_VERTEX_OFFSET = 0;
isUIPass = true;
bool isPingInputCandidateLocal = ((index_count - drawCallVertexCount*2) == PING_INDEX_COUNT) &&
(first_index == PING_FIRST_INDEX) &&
(vertex_offset == PING_VERTEX_OFFSET);
isPingInputCandidate = isPingInputCandidateLocal;
drawCallVertexCount = 0;

return isPingInputCandidateLocal && (use_ping == 0.0f);

}
else if (pixel_shader_hash == 0x92BB9EA9)
{
constexpr uint32_t UID_FIRST_INDEX = 18;
constexpr uint32_t UID_INDEX_COUNT = 100;
constexpr int32_t UID_VERTEX_OFFSET = 12;
isUIDInputCandidate = (first_index == UID_FIRST_INDEX) && (index_count > UID_INDEX_COUNT) && (vertex_offset == UID_VERTEX_OFFSET) && isPingInputCandidate;
drawCallVertexCount = 0;
return isUIDInputCandidate && (use_uid == 0.0f);
}
else
{
drawCallVertexCount = 0;
return false;
}
}
#endif

more slop to duck tape this..

The vignette has 12 indices but there is a vkCmdDraw before it (which counts as 6), 12+6 = 18 then it matches our test

[final bramble]

is there a way to prevent AO from being overlayed underwater? first is RTAO on, second is RTAO off

[rustic echo]

are you using reviel?

[final bramble]

that's how it looks with reveil enabled, it's just a bit washed out

[gloomy tulip]

Luminite RTAO vs modded game AO, i guess it leaves some to be desired

Up is gtao vs rtao, ughhh

If GTAO is running at full res it would still blow these AO solutions out of the water

[idle notch]

hellyea
grand theft auto online in full res babyy

[gloomy tulip]

Someone should make a tool to kill the game process if its using more than 20GB of RAM

[balmy ember]

I heared they removed the forced tutorial for factory but this is only for the simulation part? The game and main story is still mostly about the factory?

[median robin]

they added an option to just straight up claim the rewards from the simulation part without actually doing them. The story tutorials are still in

[balmy ember]

That's what I figured. So if you guys played a lot can you also confirm factory is the main part of the game it's not something you can really plan to ignore even if you copy the blueprints?

[median robin]

It is definitely a part of the core of the game, but can be entirely ignored by just copying someones megabase blueprints and just reap the benefits

[stable lava]

well a lot of the gear forging and money printing comes from factory

so if you straight up don't do it you'll hit a big roadblock

[median robin]

it's all "afk" so you don't actually have to interact with it if you don't want to

[median robin]

there's a bunch of "early game" full base blueprints you can use and it's just copy paste, and then move on with other stuff

[rustic echo]

very likely the water is a post processing effect, and RTAO is missinterpeting it because it sees the depthmap underneath, so can't really be fix in a normal sense, as you can reduce the RTAO range is about it, but in this case, not great. probably can find out using display depth to check

I would make sure ReVeil is strong enough as well, you can use the reviel debug menu to see what's going on..

which is strange...isn't water reflecting the foilage, not duplicting it? foilage goes into the water, makes sense. i think you might need to try reshade bypass off in reno to check, but that water might be misslabled?

[gloomy tulip]

https://github.com/mlleemiles/renodx/commit/c078935dbaa859b1a66d7416f67effd604f822c9

added proper code to disable reshade when AO is not drawing during frame and some other slop

I really should learn how to write pipeline descriptor at this point to do custom ao without reshade fx

[rustic echo]

wow that's amazing, I thought this was a pipedream, as so many shaders suffer the same issue, and I've asked other shader devs, and they go "ya can't do it"

the spash screen getting blown up by .fx is really a torn in my side for a while

[gloomy tulip]

It's very game specific solution, they cant do it in a generic way, not at least perfectly

[rustic echo]

It could easily stand on its own as a separate generic addon assuming it didn’t blow someone else’s stuff up, but that’s the tricky part I guess

[spiral imp]

Wizards

[humble musk]

@rustic echo Hey MeiMei, what is your reshade settings + AO settings now? Do you use any extra shaders besides RTAO/LSAO + ReVeil. I'm curious to what you ended up with after the latest update. Any major issues you've seen with your current setup?

[slender wharf]

I've been having a weird issue during dialogue scenes where the shading at the top and bottom at the screen seems to be switching on/off every line or two of dialogue. Anyone noticed something similar?

[unkempt pulsar]

yes, hiding the ping icon causes this

the options are a little messed up at the moment:
"uid text" hides both the uid and the ping text
"ping text" hides the ping icon and causes these issues

[mild hazel]

So great, I tried it

[dusky wave]

Have you asked Pumbo?

[gloomy tulip]

It’s different in stream line

NGX asks for resolution as scale

[dusky wave]

ah

welp

what do I work on today

Fixing speech vignette turning on and off with latency bar I suppose

acktaully, I'll ask on the reshade server its its possible to get reshade bypass to work with upscaling

I am going to assume its a PITA considering REST doestn support upscaling either

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm what’s wrong with upscaling bypass

[dusky wave]

if you dont use 100% scaling it breaks reshade fx depth

Since internally the game is running at upscaled

but reshade is still using base res

[gloomy tulip]

Isn’t it the problem of generic depth

Reshade gives the back buffer resolution to fx

[gloomy tulip]

Damn

[dusky wave]

Trying to solve this

if you use bypass right after uberposts its fine

since its already native res there

[gloomy tulip]

You need to use render technique instead of render effects

Oh nvm

Hmm

[dusky wave]

this happens to me

[gloomy tulip]

You can try doing update uniform bindings

BUFFER_WIDTH

With the rtv res

I forgot how reshade gets the back buffer res

[dusky wave]

I'll give it a go

I'll ask on reshade server to see if anyone has any answers as well

[gloomy tulip]

And this seems to have fixed the speech vignettes for me

[dusky wave]

time to test on our end

[fluid patio]

@dusky wave idk if you saw it but I dm'd you the hash I found

[gloomy tulip]

Although I think the fix is just dumb luck hmm

[dusky wave]

[gloomy tulip]

F which menu is that I forgot

[dusky wave]

AIC blueprints

[gloomy tulip]

Lemme check

[dusky wave]

press F1

[gloomy tulip]

Yeah thats cooked

[dusky wave]

Hydra - solve one problem two more take its place

[gloomy tulip]

Why do they draw a full screen background with 18 indices

Okay I think I can check this instead
⁨⁨```cpp
bool isPingInputCandidateLocal = (index_count == PING_INDEX_COUNT) &&
(first_index == PING_FIRST_INDEX) &&
(vertex_offset == PING_VERTEX_OFFSET) &&
(drawCallVertexCount == 0);

Seems like the on draw indexed hook is broken maybe

Basically if there is a Draw call before the hook then its broken for some reason

Hmm with this when you press pause or use other menu the ping will show up

[woeful raven]

Make ao work under fog

[woeful raven]

You could try mxao

But thats gtao anyways

Kek w

[gloomy tulip]

But the indicator hide is really bothering me XD

[dusky wave]

bruh

ok all of the above

has now made the latency bar hide work

• latency bar toggle now stops speech vignette for on/offing itself, also stops AIC blueprint table from flickering on/off as you hover over icons

[gloomy tulip]

MXAO vs modded game AO

[mighty palm]

well I still got the vignette flicker with latency bar hidden

[dusky wave]

💀

right

no more latency bar toggle

access has been revoked for that setting

[woeful raven]

Ya

Just live with it

Replace the monitor in what

3 years

Doesnt mstter

[spiral imp]

so glad for the ui hide button

[gloomy tulip]

Hmm in mxao file

MXAO vs Modded AO

I really need to get custom AO now 😭

I dunno why but MXAO's bitmask implementation seems to miss a lot of crevices

I think its because it doesnt have access to the actual normal maps

[tough halo]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-jjk-jjk-0-realization-gif-3673210410590891632