Arknights + AK Endfield

[last hinge]

do the other gachas just

vk on mobile dx11/12

on pc

[woeful raven]

Wuwa is the goat

OpenGL + vulkan on mobile

[last hinge]

too bad it runs like ass cheeks

[woeful raven]

DX11 + DX12 on PC

[woeful raven]

It looks better than this game tho

The ass cheeks are worth it

[last hinge]

yeah but it costs almost twice the perf

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/shorekeeper-wuwa-cry-wuthering-waves-wuthering-gif-12961074393320072706

[last hinge]

also its not like it cant run well

the first zone runs fine

but the newest zone runs horrendous

[woeful raven]

Cause the newest zones r more dense

Its crazy

[dusky wave]

well dont forget Endfield has some abysmal LODs, GTAO is a meme hence why we added bypass, zones are smaller and theres no ToD

[last hinge]

yeah the zones are smalleer

[dusky wave]

Endfield could bake lighting since no ToD

but we mentioned that would increase size

[woeful raven]

their current bakes look fine

But the lack of AO

Is

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[dusky wave]

"Current bake is fine"

has grey.blue Raster light leak look

[last hinge]

i would blame ue for wuwa running like ass but mfs using ue4

so its just a skill issue

[woeful raven]

Its not ue4

[last hinge]

its a modified ue4

[woeful raven]

Its ue4.69 lumenite 20

[dusky wave]

Wuwa runs like ass because they cope with backporting feautes

[tough halo]

What are your recommended settings?

[woeful raven]

Yea

[woeful raven]

No recommended

Defaults are fine

But if you want

[last hinge]

if ur gonna backport everything just fucking upgrade to ue5 at that point

[woeful raven]

Highlights 55 contrast 55 saturation 55

[dusky wave]

I run Gamma 2.4/ BT 1886 for gamma correction

and contrast at 55

thats about it

[woeful raven]

Yeah

This game comes out already pretty kk

High 55 cons 55 sat 55 is enough boost

[twin haven]

if you guys know Ex Astris Android only you can see some inspiration mainly the characters outline they look like eatable cake lol so defined

https://tenor.com/view/exastris-vi-yan-gif-12593548499990318997

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave i was playing thru the mines/desert area

Was thinking "yknow this is pretty good looking"

Then i turned off improved shadows and rtao

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[last hinge]

also i do like good graphics but if it nukes the perf was it truly worth it?

[woeful raven]

This game is light enough to add in a good AO pass

[dusky wave]

I will take PT running at 30FPS then MFGmax slop

[last hinge]

not ur stuff i mean

wuwa

[woeful raven]

Its worth it

I have 30-50fps

Frameslopmax to 180fps

The visuals are amazing

[jagged gyro]

yea wuwa looks too great, the fps hit is worth the quality

[woeful raven]

[jagged gyro]

framegen can cope it back into playable range too so

easy dub

[strong vault]

I tried getting into Wuva just for visuals alone for 3 times but I just cant do it

There is too much lore slop dump at start

[jagged gyro]

wuwa story just weak asf

[last hinge]

the first act is fastish

[dusky wave]

Meanwhile Endfield is Tutorialslop dump

[last hinge]

anime games and first good section is rare

its always a massive info dump

with very little happening

[woeful raven]

The tutorialslop they added to prevent filtering out normies

Are actually filtering out normies

Need 10 pages of essay

To explain

[dusky wave]

how factory works

[woeful raven]

How to make a belt and move from point a to b

[last hinge]

factory games will never appeal to everyone

[jagged gyro]

people discovering they dont like games with more complex systems than "spend resin logout"

[tough halo]

Did anyone try it with RTGI ? It looks so good

[dusky wave]

pics?

Me and spiwar have only tested AO shaders

[woeful raven]

Sure but theyre also filtering out people who could get into it

But getting tutorialslopped

[strong vault]

I couldnt find any rtgi that worked in HDR

[dusky wave]

Thing with GI shaders will be they will also apply to the fog

and most dont support HDR

[woeful raven]

Yeah

It will look even more obvious

Cause now the fogslop

Will also bleed color

Probably

[dusky wave]

mfs why didnt they make fog a separate shader

ts pmo 🥀

[strong vault]

I asked gemini to edit RTAO shader to add gi but idk how to feel about it

[woeful raven]

Thats the wrong approach

Use an existing rtgi shader

[dusky wave]

Clanker will fail on that

[woeful raven]

And tell it to unclamp

There are like

[strong vault]

I tried 2 hours on uber rt and it couldnt do it

[dusky wave]

Most of them just do SDR clamping at the very end

some sort of SDR shaping

or a saturate()

or clamp to 1

[woeful raven]

you lied to me btw

Mxao was two lines

Not one line

[dusky wave]

oh no

I lied

[woeful raven]

Scammed

But yea

Didnt even need gpt for thay

A + B

Or something + 1.0

Addition = sdr slop

[tough halo]

1 RTGI 2 default

it gives that realistic touch

[dusky wave]

which shader is this?

[woeful raven]

I see the difference but i would not call it a huge diff

[dusky wave]

I didnt know there was one that support HDR ootb

[woeful raven]

Hes probably slapping it on sdr

And not seen any issue yet

Like mxao works fine on hdr until u see the black pixels

[serene bridge]

marty rtgi comparison here

[tough halo]

immerse RTGI

yes or Marty's

its the same person

[dusky wave]

kotorin have you tried out AO? I linked a new build

Marty's should have artefacts ootb

it will bork the pixels when using HDR

[serene bridge]

not yet, the one spiwar posted with reshade bypass didn't work with rtgi since it just clamped to sdr so i didn't use it

[tough halo]

you can always increase the lighting bounce

and increase the ao

[woeful raven]

You need to take the pic somewhere

Where it would make more diff

[woeful raven]

Try again with the latest build

While i doubt it'll change

[tough halo]

But it would look too unrealistic, you can always test it yourself

[woeful raven]

No i meant using your existing setting

[tough halo]

Default is 10.000 which is too much, even the creator suggests 5.000

[woeful raven]

And taking a screenshot somrwhere else

Your screenshot wasnt a rly good showcase

#1440801914165002322 message

[tough halo]

Alright, I just started the game, will take more picture the more I play

[woeful raven]

Something more like this

Yea

[dusky wave]

Right now I continue work on making DLSS work

[serene bridge]

yeah latest build still doesn't play nice with rtgi

[dusky wave]

with help from GPT4.1

then its RIP

bypass cant make non HDR compat shaders work

since the shaders up to that point are already in HDR linear

meanwhile SDR reshade shaders already expect output to be SDR

since reshade is applying as a post process

[serene bridge]

yeah this is what happens with bypass

[woeful raven]

Oh btw

If u want a temp solution

I forgot to tell u guys

Theres a preprocessing shader to decode linear to srgb

Linear srgb -> rtgi -> srgb linear

[serene bridge]

oh soop converter thing?

[woeful raven]

I think so?

Didnt look too close into it

[dusky wave]

SOOP was DOA for WH3 when I tried with rest hence why I manually patched MXAO

[woeful raven]

Cuz i prefer if it was just patched directly

But cant share so

Yeah kotorin try the soop one

Maybe itll work

[serene bridge]

it dies as soon as i turn on reshade bypass 😂

[woeful raven]

What was the error?

[dusky wave]

Since you cant modify and share Marty's you need to use Soop but soop doesnt work unless you also modify it to now work with bypass

[woeful raven]

LMAO

Just cope with the rtao guys

Itsblike what

[dusky wave]

yes

[woeful raven]

2.7ms

[dusky wave]

game looks good

como?

its like 1ms for me

0.95

[woeful raven]

Ur on 5090

[dusky wave]

oh

oops

[woeful raven]

Im on 4070ti super

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[serene bridge]

can run marty rtgi and still keep 120 fps

[dusky wave]

The game with shadow improvement and RTAO is complete

[mighty palm]

Is this mod not supported for SDR monitors? I tried using it, but it forces the color space to hdr and makes my game washed out...nevermind I just figured it out...it was because of this program "novideo sRGB" ... when i unticked "clamped" my colors became normal

[woeful raven]

You will also need to set game/ui/peak brightness to 80

[mighty palm]

yeah I did that already, but in the end this program fricked it all up the most

[serene bridge]

adding bounce lighting so good

[woeful raven]

@tough nimbus @dusky wave do you even need to set colorspace to scrgb for this?

I tried hdr10 80/80/80 and it was fine

[dusky wave]

Jon has added explicit SDR support into his addons

HDR10 doesnt work off the bat

need scRGB

[woeful raven]

Weird

Iwhen i was streaming thru my laptop

Even hdr10 pq 808080 looked fine

[dusky wave]

when was this?

I dunno if we've now added something into the addon

that prevents that

[woeful raven]

The other day when i had to play on an sdr ultrawide

Acktually

I can test from my tablet rn

[dusky wave]

but its working for the person above?

confused

[woeful raven]

@mighty palm is it working now after you disable nobideo?

[strong vault]

Do I have to upgrade formats from RGBA8 to RGBA16F for updating shaders?

[timid marten]

Could someone eli5 me how to install this 🙏 I dropped the shaders and renodx file in game folder, set effect path in reshade and it fails to compile

[low haven]

I followed the instructions but

[dusky wave]

no

I am chatting shit

HDR10 PQ works

[woeful raven]

Ya

[dusky wave]

scRGB doesnt

I had a user in BDO tell me

if the mod supports SDR

and It doesnt because I did scRGB

[woeful raven]

Just worked

[dusky wave]

bro wipe your screen

[woeful raven]

Ill wipe it when i get homw

Yeah for sdr hust set 808080 then

[dusky wave]

reshade log?

I need to see what its failing on

[dusky wave]

same here

I need to see what reshade is failing to compile

[woeful raven]

Likely the colorspace detection function

LMAO

Youll have to tell them how to fix it if its the case

[woeful raven]

But you cant share modified

LOL

[dusky wave]

HDR10 PQ still does 0-1 like SDRbrainrot

PQ EOTF is mapped differently since you have 0-10K nits

scRGB is the one doing its own thing

which is why SDRlets cant enjoy scRGB mods

oh right

[dusky wave]

nope

even simpler

you see how I told people to not install other shaders

guess

what the issue could be

[low haven]

Didn't think Lilium's shaders would be an issue

[dusky wave]

(your folder is now missing ReShade.fxh)

you just need ReShade.fxh

back in the Shaders folder

[low haven]

Oh lol

[dusky wave]

it always comes with Reshade installer

but we've skipped it

[low haven]

That's why then, I didn't install it from the installer

Huge brain moment

[dusky wave]

We never need ReShade.fxh

outside of this moment

I think this is the first Reno addon with bypass

using AO

[low haven]

Yeah I only use ReShade for Reno so I forgot

Just got used to linking the dll

[dusky wave]

outside of what Shortfuse did with Oblivion

[timid marten]

Yup, it works now

Thanks chief

[woeful raven]

I'll slop out a mod post on gamebanana

And nexus

[dusky wave]

The industry expands

New outposts frfr

Nexooos doesnt have limit on pics so you can post HDR pngs in the description

the thumbnail images will have to be SDR though

add a heatmap like what Dabveed does

[woeful raven]

Whats dabveeds post

[dusky wave]

His nexus posts for reno

he uploads a heatmap

[woeful raven]

We factory farming this one

[dusky wave]

from liliums

https://www.nexusmods.com/minecraftbedrockedition/mods/110

XgarhontX is his other username

[woeful raven]

Then get ready for nexus commenta

Telling u

This is a reshade preset

Achieve true modder status

[dusky wave]

Look forward

BROOOOOOOOOOOO

IS THIS A RESHADE PRESET

Inb4 some salty nexoid reports us

and Reno for Endfield gets shut down

[woeful raven]

BROOOOOOooOOOO this mod DOESNT WoRK at all

*did not read dx11 only

[dusky wave]

Aight get ready for 100K downlaods yh

we beating Byberpunk with this one

[woeful raven]

Real

Most of the comments r gonna be about

Either using it on vulkan

Or wrong injection name

I can already see it

[dusky wave]

You already know once updates hit

comment section will be 'DIS NO WORKY'

We already have +70 peeps here

[jagged gyro]

lmao... game still runs fine though

funny

[mighty palm]

yes it works, colors are slightly different but thats because now I have novideo srgb disabled, so its more saturated...(picture is just a joke )

but the game is a bit more darker, but maybe I can adjust it in renodx...

left is with renodx, right is default game

[tough nimbus]

the main menu doesn't use a tonemapper in vanilla

[dusky wave]

ah yes, avg reshade preset look

[mighty palm]

looks like i just have to raise my peak brightness from 80 to somewhere around 200, to match my default game look on sdr

well I guess I should change it to be around 300nits for my monitor (vg27aql1a)

[gleaming osprey]

What am I missing? I've followed these steps but i crash on launch now

[woeful raven]

Ya main menu lutbuilder is passthru

No hdr values

[dusky wave]

refer to instructions

in pins

[woeful raven]

Man

I got trolled by the main menu lutbuilder

[gleaming osprey]

the instructions i directly replied to?

[woeful raven]

Thought it was gonna be easy

Then ingake

Game

Its ACES all along

[dusky wave]

#1440801914165002322 message

This is to load reno correctly

[woeful raven]

You'll want all 80 80 80

[gleaming osprey]

I'm launching through launch.bat

[woeful raven]

Then even sdr screenshot would work

But not completely sure

[dusky wave]

Did you try using d3d12.dll method instead?

[woeful raven]

If you have a bad HDR monitor you could still attempt hdr@mighty palm

It not optimal

But eh

[dusky wave]

Spiwar

I hjave been soo busy

I forgor Poppy dropped album

[woeful raven]

Wadahell

[dusky wave]

23rd

[woeful raven]

Whos poppy

[dusky wave]

Slopsinger

[woeful raven]

I only listen to taylor swift

[dusky wave]

Rip

[mighty palm]

nah my monitor in hdr mode overblows some parts of display in certain circumstances because of horrible local dimming feature...for example it makes black text disappear on white background sometimes...the "blooming" or i dont know how to call this phenomenon is horrible...makes hdr unusable most of the time

[woeful raven]

yea that sounds like a bad time

IPS?

[mighty palm]

yes

[dusky wave]

bad time

[woeful raven]

Yeah just sdr

[dusky wave]

Hate that they shipped 'HDR' on LCDs

abysmal

that this was allowed

[mighty palm]

when I got this monitor and tried hdr for the first time....i thought I got faulty unit

but thats just how it is

[woeful raven]

RIP

Btw

@dusky wave did u know

Wuwaslop hdr has paper white slider

Next patch

[dusky wave]

only paper white?

Wuwano will fix slop

it will probably be jank

[woeful raven]

With their "tonemapping" im afraid what they cooked

Paper and peak slider

[gleaming osprey]

I had a dxgi.dll chilling in my game folder ruining things

[dusky wave]

ahh

[woeful raven]

1. Sdr in hdr
2. Sdr in hdr with autohdr scale to peak
3. Sdr but stretch lut to hdr w black floor issue
4. Ue hdr (no grading lut) with black floor issue
   5.one of the above but with contrast applied

[dusky wave]

6. They ported UE5.8 filmic ITM HDR

portcentral

[woeful raven]

Aces v2

Would be a win

[dusky wave]

with gamma 2.4 mismatch

missing

HDR is about get a new era of washed out

we're not going from gamma 2.2 to srgb

its now going ot be gamma 2.4 to srgb

[woeful raven]

Maybe one of the kurobots are in here and thats why they implemented hdr

And its gonna be perfect

COPE

[dusky wave]

Wuwano is secret Kuro dev

BestEnding

[gleaming osprey]

My AO appears to be upside down

[woeful raven]

Preprocessor

Set depth to upside down

Forge add that into ze guilde

https://tenor.com/view/power-max-screaming-break-stranger-things-gif-10678410022383830645

[dusky wave]

uhhh

I dont have upside down set to 1

[woeful raven]

I mean whatever they had

Tell them to flip it

[dusky wave]

we're rendering the shader with all the others

and theyre all flipped

it should then unflip itself

[woeful raven]

Reshade defaults r prob 1

[dusky wave]

might be

me manually setting it to flip again cuased it to be flipped

so you want it to be set to 0/off

and let the game flip the output itself

[woeful raven]

Preprocessor definitions r on the reshade screen

[gleaming osprey]

Oh my god, turning AO on/off is such a gigantic difference now that it works

[woeful raven]

Dont ask where it is

[woeful raven]

Hes enlightened

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-laurence-fishburne-morpheus-trinity-he's-beginning-to-believe-gif-18413151103009905935

[dusky wave]

Welcome to RenoDX

where we save not only HDR

but grafix as well

[gleaming osprey]

The screenshots didn't really sell it to me but i see now

[woeful raven]

Dont overdo it

With the AO strength tho

[gleaming osprey]

yeah 0.7 might be a bit much still

[woeful raven]

I do 0.4

I'll keep using my uberpost slop cause i need dlss P

[dusky wave]

I use 2.0

Need my reshade preset look

[woeful raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440801914165002322/1463631474430443622/gawddamn.mp4?ex=69792008&is=6977ce88&hm=b25fd815a019811cba092c194e9cb787be0dcb9b112afbf864b767f508b539b6&

[gleaming osprey]

UI looks a bit dim even with "UI Brightness" maxed, anything i can do for that?

[woeful raven]

No

There is something wrong ur doing

If maxed ui is too dim

[gleaming osprey]

it's specifically enemy health bars

[woeful raven]

Ui shit like health bars are in hdr

So thats like even less true

take a pic

With reshade

[dusky wave]

yes, many UI elements are already hDR

[dusky wave]

That is bright

for UI elements

[woeful raven]

This looks fins

Fine

Yeah the pic looks fine blud

[gleaming osprey]

Yeah idk it's probably a me issue, the stagger bar isn't as bright as i felt it was on SDR

[delicate sand]

getting consistent driver freeze looking towards center of dijinang lobby from the little seating area down the stairs with the addon installed

[dusky wave]

log?

I've been there a couple times

havent frozen yet

[woeful raven]

Yeg send l0gs

[dusky wave]

Does it happen if you launch the game and head there straight away

[woeful raven]

Record vid or send logs either works

[delicate sand]

yes and can get stuck in a loop until move without it installed ill get logs

[dusky wave]

AMD GPU?

though we have some users already on AMD gpus who havent had these issues

[steep cave]

same here. driver constantly crashes near there with my 5070. I'm now at a spot where I can't even load into the game without it crashing 😭

[jagged gyro]

i am on the same gpu and have not had that issue... logs are only way to see

[dusky wave]

@woeful raven new debooog

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/490

check comments, need to figure out whats up with shadows

[jagged gyro]

if your entire driver is crashing you could be hitting vram limit tho, maybe keep an eye on that

[steep cave]

Here's where it crashed and the log

[dusky wave]

let me check log

[dusky wave]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/490#discussioncomment-15611457 anyone run into this?

check the comment

[jagged gyro]

nope not that i have seen

[woeful raven]

yes

reproducible

im back home with my matcha latte now

[dusky wave]

matcha is based

the shadow bug not soo much

[woeful raven]

walk into shadow

then you can see

maybe the improved shadows values are tuned too aggressively

[dusky wave]

FUK

well with AO I could decrease the shadows to see if that solves the issue

or perhaps bypass it applying to characters

[grim kiln]

yea only issue i had on my 9070xt even with optiscalar doing fsr4 is the memory leak after a number of hours and then random lock ups on an older addon release otherwise its great

[woeful raven]

actually

what if its a decomp issue

what shader is responsible for this

[dusky wave]

It will one of them under shadows

folder

could be decomp

[woeful raven]

the light contribution is not hitting the characters hair

i mean

it is

but that part of the hair

fades to light earlier

NINE ELEVEN

https://tenor.com/view/george-bush-george-w-bush-george-walker-bush-george-bush-gif-4763846221746003914

@dusky wave check ff6

[dusky wave]

hol up I am reading this log

[woeful raven]

it's either decomp issue or you need to tune shadow contribution

[dusky wave]

is this only applying to characters?

I could just skip it

or figure out if its decomp

and it only applies when under cloud shadows?

[dusky wave]

not seeing anything out of the ordinary

What I could do is stop resource cloning

and send the addon to you

and see if that changes anything

[steep cave]

sure i can try that.

[dusky wave]

one sec

[woeful raven]

yeah

only cloud shadows

perhaps there's a value you forgot to boost also

ok

i understand why now

[steep cave]

oh i see now, the game crashes my obs causing a black screen for a few seconds so i assumed it was a driver crash. without obs running, the game crashes "normally", no black screen

[dusky wave]

Need peepol to test this version

• Disabled Resource cloning + some other code... Wondering if this improves mem / vram leaking

test this

[woeful raven]

that part of her hair is not part of the shader @dusky wave

[dusky wave]

no wonder

separate bangs

[woeful raven]

one sec

I see the shader where the hair is drawn now

not sure if shadow contribution can be applied to that

[dusky wave]

let me bust a big un

then come back

[woeful raven]

actually

that might not be it

the assembly decomp

looks simple

this might be just be compositing something else

let me track

yeah this isnt it probably

one sec

[dusky wave]

OK I am back

Spiwar focus on the shadows for now

[steep cave]

still crashes sadge

[dusky wave]

I am working on this crashing thing

fukkkk

whats your mem situation like

[steep cave]

i thought to lower all my in-game settings, but nah

[dusky wave]

I had a moment where the game was running for 6 hrs

and the mem leak froze up my whole pc

I disabled cloning (I dont think we even need it) so that should at the very least minimise further mem usage from reno side

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave

[dusky wave]

51KB cant wait for the decomp errors on this one

[steep cave]

game running for most of that graph, the dip is after it crashes

[woeful raven]

if it's not possible to fix we can just disable the improved shadows on characters

grass still works

[dusky wave]

anything running in the background, Overwolf, Discord

[woeful raven]

alright

[dusky wave]

I tend to disable everything before playing my games

[woeful raven]

i have one more left in me

where do you get the crash

?

[dusky wave]

^

I've ran through that area a billion times

so I dunno wtf is up

[woeful raven]

yeah

[steep cave]

maybe its my ddr4

[woeful raven]

what am i suppsoed to do here

wait for a crash?

[woeful raven]

other plugins can cause crashes

are you using anything else

like display commanders

i am ddr4

its not the reason

[steep cave]

ok i'll try closing literally every background thing i know

well thats not it

[woeful raven]

hidden vram crash maybe

im on 16gb

[steep cave]

I went into vanilla endfield, turned around to face away from the center and walked forward one step, then what you see in the video is my attempt to record the crash with reno. The last 2 seconds were lost but all i did was turn around walk forward right after the clip.

[woeful raven]

Cant reproduce

Rip buddy

[jagged gyro]

0% gpu usage right after crash? im going to guess vram... but could try reinstalling your gpu drivers

how much vram are you sitting at before it crashes?

[jagged gyro]

definitely isnt memory related, this is mine for the last couple hours

[steep cave]

yea i'll try that next. about 1.3gb for vram rn after i restarted my pc. still crashes unfortunately

[jagged gyro]

yea all i can think of based of what ive seen is vram, definitely seems gpu-related at the very least. but i could be wrong so

[woeful raven]

turn up

the page file

if you have a decently sized page file

the memory leak wont crash your pc immediately

and you can play a while

[jagged gyro]

^

[dusky wave]

ahh

my pagefile is 128GB

probably why I dont CTD in most games from this issue

[woeful raven]

yeah

I played for hours

and the game ran smooth

but my pagefile is almost full

[jagged gyro]

yea mine is at 98gb, mine is also basically full

but i havent really crashed or stuttered anywhere at all thus far

[steep cave]

well it runs fine in every area (so far) until I go into that specific spot in dijiang, then i have to disable reno to get myself out otherwise i'll be stuck crashing trying to load in

[jagged gyro]

wait- you don't crash w/o reno? or am i reading that wrong

[woeful raven]

what's he saying is

1. he goes to that spot and crash with reno

2. if he reloads game with reno, it reloads in that spot and he crashes again

3. so he has to turn off reno and get out of that spot

[jagged gyro]

ahh gotcha

yea i have no clue then, i cant seem to recreate it either rip

[woeful raven]

something something

works fine on my machine

good luck

[jagged gyro]

lmao

[dusky wave]

I thought disabling resource cloning would help

but nada

and log isnt giving me anything

[delicate sand]

Same place in the lobby i have an 5080, 64gb ram it only happens with versions after the bypass was added regardless of setting, memory seems fine less than half vram usage at time of crashes pagefile fine other areas in game perfectly fine.

[woeful raven]

okay cunts

download this

#1440801914165002322 message

i have a feeling this won't crash

[dusky wave]

You mean

[woeful raven]

bypass added earlier in pipeline might cause issue is my theory

[dusky wave]

are you insinuating MY slopcode is at fault

[woeful raven]

my slopcode™ is better than your slopcode™

https://tenor.com/view/comedysportz-comedy-sports-sport-stop-gif-16001681

[delicate sand]

works

[dusky wave]

fuking hell

[woeful raven]

okay

now delete all your extra reshade shaders

and go in game with the latest addon, not that one i linked

keep only the default slop ones

[dusky wave]

also test latest with Render before reshade UI toggle off

[steep cave]

yea works for me lol

[woeful raven]

maybe delete your entire reshade settings

[woeful raven]

what works

[jagged gyro]

oh this is the one where ao semi-works with dlss right?

[woeful raven]

latest addon with no effects

[steep cave]

your version

[woeful raven]

or old addon

then test latest addon with no effects in your folder

[steep cave]

not even the default ones?

[woeful raven]

it's something with your machine

keep default slops

there is something you guys are doing wrong

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

because forge version works fine for me

[woeful raven]

if this doesn't work

take a picture of your list of addons

i have another hunch

[steep cave]

man i wish. it doesn't work with latest. Just to confirm, the one in the pins is the latest?: #1440801914165002322 message

[woeful raven]

^

[woeful raven]

turn off effect runtime sync

and go to that area with the latest addon

you will have to restart the game

for the turn off to be effective

[steep cave]

ok i turned that off, restarted the game, still crashes

[woeful raven]

are you at native resolution?

[steep cave]

yep

[woeful raven]

i've seen enough

https://tenor.com/view/ive-seen-enough-im-satisfied-dio-jojo-gif-18253368

good luck

[steep cave]

so what's the difference between the addon you posted and the latest? Might just run that instead

[woeful raven]

addon I posted runs the bypass after all game render but before UI

addon forge posted runs the bypass earlier in the pipeline

to bypass things like depth of field

[delicate sand]

same brand new install fresh inis redownloaded tried disabling effect sync still crashes with latest

[woeful raven]

if the forge one crashes

uses mine

i just ran out of fucks to give for diagnosing this

but acktually

https://tenor.com/view/one-more-thing-loki-thinking-gif-18290380

use this rehsade ini

in place of your ini

aight ciao

[dusky wave]

Everyone else, could you also test my latest pin. If the game doesnt blow up or get clamped again by resources.

We can just keep cloning off and it should improve mem/vram related situation maybe

[steep cave]

yea nope reshade.ini doesn't fix it. appreciate the help!

[woeful raven]

oh

wrong reshade ini

[dusky wave]

why does your devkit have the arrows next to the shaders?

[woeful raven]

using an old devkit by @tiny meadow

ze GOAT

with snapshot shortcut

[jagged gyro]

i recreated your crash once, completely wiped reshade from existence, recompiled shaders and started over, no crash since

[jagged gyro]

this version doesnt crash either

[woeful raven]

@dusky wave

snapshot hotkey configurable in settings

[dusky wave]

is this going to boost my productivity by 300%?

though I guess 0X300% is still zero

[woeful raven]

snapshot hotkey check javascript

snapshothotkey = 34 = pagedown

[steep cave]

ok so you uninstalled via reshade.exe, then how do you get endfield to recompile shaders?

[woeful raven]

its a bit old though

maybe wino compiled a new build

[woeful raven]

to get recompilation

launch the game in vulkan once

finish the vulkan recomp

[jagged gyro]

yep that

[woeful raven]

go back to DX11

[jagged gyro]

if still crashing, try the most recent addon forge posted and see if you crash or not

that's all i got for ya though

beyond that good luck

[jagged gyro]

so far resource usage is not nearly as bad, will run for a while and see what happens tho

[tiny meadow]

I need to finish my PR but yeah, that build has some nice conveniences

Though yes, quite old and wouldn’t have whatever else has been done to the devkit since

[dusky wave]

ok

I will try it out

I havent played the game this whole day, just attempting to fix stuff

Let me deal with this shadow nonsense

then get back to reshade DLSS support

[woeful raven]

I'll PR the uberpost build to github

just to get it on the hub

once we fix reshade dlss

[dusky wave]

what happened to Nexooos?

[woeful raven]

we can make new pr

nexoos coming

[kind lichen]

i cant seem to get the rtao or the lsao shaders to work, I've followed the instructions and done a fresh install to make sure reshade.fxh is in there and the shaders compile correctly but there is just no visual change when toggling them

[dusky wave]

vid?

Need to see what you're pressing and so on

[dusky wave]

pr then build addon so we can update snapshot

because rn it is hella out of date on githoob

[kind lichen]

what would be an easy way to record this lol

[jagged gyro]

make sure you're in DLAA or TAAU otherwise it won't change anything when toggling it

[kind lichen]

yeah ive tried it on both

[jagged gyro]

are you having errors on reshade/in reshade log?

[kind lichen]

i can post the log but there are no errors

[jagged gyro]

unsure then, i have very limited knowledge on ts

[woeful raven]

dont need to record

use

draw Raw AO

and let me see the result

[rustic echo]

Just say,g make sure you're not using the epic store version...epic blows stuff up anywhere anytime on reshade stuff

[woeful raven]

epic doesn't matter

you can launch the exe directly

without epic

I should write a quick guide for direct launch without game or epic launcher

[kind lichen]

do you mean the show AO mask option

[woeful raven]

yes

let me see the mask

oh wait

before that

have you turned on kernels.fx?

[grim kiln]

aye aye captain🫡

[kind lichen]

no i literally only have rtao on, is that the issue

[jagged gyro]

yes

[woeful raven]

yes

forge missed this in the guide

[kind lichen]

okay i knew it was something stupid

[woeful raven]

you need to turn on

kernels.fx

[kind lichen]

thanks fellas

[woeful raven]

to thave the motion vectors for rtao

[rustic echo]

i think epic injects their overlay no matter what but could be wrong with direct launch. But i had one other person randomly crash enfield in a random spot non stop with reshade, just epic being epic

[grim kiln]

wait which version should i use the one forge posted to remove cloning or the one you posted spiwar?

[woeful raven]

**Launch game in DX11 without launcher **

1. Right click Endfield.exe in your game folder, create shortcut
2. Right click shortcut -> properties
3. add -force-d3d11 to target (see screenshot)
4. launch game
5. ???
6. profit

[jagged gyro]

oh speaking of, memory leak is still there, just took longer to max out this time... vram on other hand is slightly better

[woeful raven]

only use my version if you're

1. crashing with forge's version
2. using DLSS or TAAU upscaling

[grim kiln]

ah i do use upscaling yours it is

[woeful raven]

you only need the launcher when the game has an update, otherwise can turn it off to save resources

[kind lichen]

okay it works now

[dusky wave]

added now

[dusky wave]

sounds about right

ok we can disable cloning in that case

[woeful raven]

might need to occsaionally re-pin the installation guide

cause people keep

NOT READING

[dusky wave]

Karlbot regular ping?

every hr

it will auto msg instructions

[woeful raven]

can you summon the guides

like

!endfield

[dusky wave]

Shortfuse would need to implement

then we can do that

just tag a word and bot summons instructions

[glacial kayak]

you can delete it if need be

[woeful raven]

yeah that would be better than just pin and re-pinning

we could use the pins for current issues

like

• DLSS/TAAU will not work with reshade bypass except native resolution
• reshade bypass will still apply on fog
• hair bangs are drawn on a separate shaders, so it will sometimes look weird when using improved shadows

[dusky wave]

What you need to do is go over to lab/clubroom

and tell shortuse to give you modder role

fellas is out here with a common ass white name

[woeful raven]

be one with the masses

[glacial kayak]

the masses travels

[woeful raven]

me when i get my modder role
https://youtu.be/B9PTYUFB-DY

[glacial kayak]

[dusky wave]

Also we now have Shortfuses new tonemapper

neutwo

Max Channel neutwo with per channel blowout and per luminance by chrominance when?

[woeful raven]

is that in the repo yet

[dusky wave]

yes

added yesterday

Mewtwo tonemapping be like

[woeful raven]

does musa have an optimized function for mewtwo yet

bro gave us the drug last time

[grim kiln]

new version working great spiwar 👍

[dusky wave]

fellas kinda slop like no

I dunno why they have cloud shadows in this area

consider there is no moving clouds in the zone

[covert jetty]

Lewd

[dusky wave]

I think there might also be a hero light applied to the characters

[dusky wave]

• Fixed hair shadow problem

[gloomy tulip]

Ugh so I did try visibility bitmask for GTAO and it looks worse than non bitmasked version 😭

[dusky wave]

Come home to reshade bypassed AO Miru

it looks good

well

apart from the fact we're not rendering before fog atm

[woeful raven]

if anyone asks you why you shouldn't do AO on character

show them this

da pan got da dirt

[dusky wave]

As Forge would say

Abysmal

[woeful raven]

the normals on this guy is insane

[dusky wave]

sweet

lord

wat is that

[woeful raven]

nextgen PBR textures and models

too bad they slopped it with

lastgen no AO

[dusky wave]

using xeGTAO

but its the temu version

[gloomy tulip]

Thats just reconstructed normal from depth

Its normal to have tons of noisy normal on very thin stuff

[woeful raven]

ya

we're just appreciating the details

on the model

[woeful raven]

@grim kiln this is an issue you will encounter using the uberpost bypass version

[dusky wave]

We need games to start shipping with LSS

Need that Lackwell feature set for good looking fur

[woeful raven]

you mean the TI optimized version

[dusky wave]

Ti would just make the AO

[grim kiln]

da pan has more normals then the rest of the game 🤣

good lord you can really tell the fog bypass dont work in this area wtf lmao

[woeful raven]

i mean yea

thats why we wanted it to bypass fog

but it doesnt work for now

[grim kiln]

i havent really noticed it before but holy lol

[fast topaz]

I'm still using old version of the mod before all this AO stuff.
Is it worth swapping?
Seems like there are a lot of stuff to be ironed out with it still.

[grim kiln]

i mean other then fog stuff the AO is insanely nice

[twin haven]

im illiterate, where who is the AO can be downloaded? do i just download it in reshade-addon

[grim kiln]

lumenitefx linked in the pin

[jagged gyro]

it's kinda up to you, if you want proper AO and don't it not being perfect then it's worth

if not, better to wait

[grim kiln]

AO adds a lot of depth the game doesnt have natively so for me its very much worth

[jagged gyro]

yep, it's entirely personal pref

[grim kiln]

the fog bypass not working is a pretty minor thing to me anyway

[jagged gyro]

spiwar version works for dlss i believe, newest release requires native... ill be corrected if im wrong tho

[jagged gyro]

yea it doesnt seem too bad mostly

[grim kiln]

yea im using with optiscalar for fsr4 running dlaa/ native aa in fsr4

if you dont use an upscalar or taau get forges release

[twin haven]

so that's why i've seen myself cranking the contrast up , the game it feels flat

ty

[dusky wave]

Some interiors go crazy with the fog so we get sloppa like this scene

[grim kiln]

still better then the native slopped AO

[dusky wave]

Wait

Spiwar

My brain cells are working

What if

We completely disable their fog

Then reapply our own

Using Pumbo's OKlab method

This way we can still render on the same shader whilst avoiding their fog shit

[grim kiln]

forge have you even slept 😂

[dusky wave]

[twin haven]

is volumetric fog still classifed as fog? you can turn off in-game fog setting

[fast topaz]

"What if we make our own game? With blackjack and hookers."

[grim kiln]

fog off

not affected

idk why that shot is blown out lol cause its not in game

[jagged gyro]

toggling volumetric fog doesnt remove all the fog in the game

that has to be manually removed from my understanding

[woeful raven]

i mean I thought about that

and then

u think

where do you even inject the fog?

how do you know a place has volumetric fog to inject

also you might need to go to sleep man what timezone ur on

[twin haven]

there's no sleep when you love HDR

it's irrelevant

[dusky wave]

its 4am

I am off

[woeful raven]

wanker time zone

[dusky wave]

I am malding at the fact they didnt make fog a separate shader

This close to perfection

[woeful raven]

is it possible to grab where the fog is applied

stored in a cb00fer somewhere

[dusky wave]

Dunno

first time trying allat

[woeful raven]

aight sleep dawg

[gloomy tulip]

Oh now I just saw that the weird vegetation AO is from the LOD transition as well

[woeful raven]

Yeah

The lod transition right in front of you

[gloomy tulip]

It's not like LOD transition, its that the game updates the rotation with huge interval I think

Since they make some bushes just always facing the camera

[woeful raven]

Wow

That makes sense cuz whwnever hey fade into a new grass the new grass doesnt really look diff

[gloomy tulip]

Did some improvement to the accumulation tho

Just making the AO super extreme to show the flickering on the right

Doesnt show up in screenshot

[steep cave]

any way to hide ui with a hotkey?

[woeful raven]

yeah i dont think this is on ss

got a build?

[gloomy tulip]

I'm basically just using unity's temporal code

It reacts faster to motion because original game one doesnt reject history from high speed pixels

[woeful raven]

bruh

is the half res blur still there?

[gloomy tulip]

Yeah cant do much about half res 🙁

[woeful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

honestly this half assed gtao implementation feels like either they dont care or they're gonna add rt soon

[arctic echo]

Hm. Getting a crash looking at this spot in Valley Pass. (turned off Reno for this screenshot)
I also get the crash in Dijiang mentioned earlier.

[gloomy tulip]

Its also the vegetation stops upating rotations when you rotate your camera

its so bad, even RT wont save that

[keen pagoda]

Guys, we won't have renovk, isn't?

[woeful raven]

we can

but we won't

not until vk has something meaningful

[keen pagoda]

?

[humble musk]

He probably means when needing a feature exclusive to VK like RT or something that isn't possible to do in DX11. FG doesn't work on renoVK either way so that feature is moot

[muted thorn]

For some reason AO is upside fown for me in both Power Plateau and Wuling, every other zone appears to be fine for me. Am I missing something or is this to be expected for now?

[tough halo]

RTGI ON

RTGI OFF

[muted thorn]

Is this Marty's? I tried messing around with it earlier but it was a wee bit scuffed for me

[rustic echo]

SCGI seems to be the only one that plays well with this reno mod, the performance hit was unacceptable though

is it just me, afte not seeing TAAU for a long time or is it shimmering like mad on thin objects?

[muted thorn]

SCGI? Can't say I've seen that before

I can try seeing if I notice the same thing with TAAU

[rustic echo]

ya super shimmering on fences and even on endmin's cloak

hmm shimmering only happens with the renodx mod...i guess it's just my settings then

[muted thorn]

If you don't mind me asking, where is this magical SCGI you speak of? I kinda want to mess around with it

[rustic echo]

https://github.com/yplebedev/BFBFX

it's nothing amazing, in the bang visual department, but it's very clean

maybe that's its selling point, and it doesn't offend me in HDR with this mod

[muted thorn]

I also can't spot any shimmering at the moment, then again it's possible I'm not looking hard enough

[rustic echo]

may be my reno setings, i don't see it when i turn reno off

also for the scgi.fx, you need zenton framework for the motion vector, not listed in the documentation

[rustic echo]

ooooh it's the improved shadows, me dumb...of course...now i get what all the napkin biting is to the conversation before.

[muted thorn]

Power Plateau really does love turning effects upside down for me

Interesting, maybe I truly am blind

Or DLAA is based?

[rustic echo]

i'll see but it also happens with RTAO luminite bypass

just not as much, so it's something they're working on I bet with many hair pulling

[unkempt pulsar]

is all this extra setup necessary for reno now or can i just download the newest addon and keep playing?

[woeful raven]

not necssary if you dont want to try the ao/gi shaders

[unkempt pulsar]

nah i'm good, i saw the grass and figured i'd rather not

[woeful raven]

this works in hdr?

how is the performance compared to the rtao shaders i linked

[rustic echo]

it bearly works according to the debug depthmap, so i can't say it's working. i would say it's not worth it no matter if it did

[woeful raven]

ok

you can use mxao if the performance hit of the linked rtao shader is too large

ask grok to remove the code that makes it sdr

[rustic echo]

this is what it's debug is giving me, so either the strength is too low, that i can't tell it's working well in hdr, or hdr works and the strength is too low

LASO i think is better if you don't mind performance hit according to luminate

[woeful raven]

lsao is still rtao but heavier yeah

[rustic echo]

OOh i had an old bugged version of the guy's SCGI...

now it looks like a proper depthmap

[muted thorn]

[rustic echo]

ok this doesn't look too bad

takes some tweaking but it doesn't look offensive

i have super crappy monitor so someone can play with it, fps lost is to big though

[woeful raven]

you also need to test with bright highlights and skill vfx

[rustic echo]

37fps..

ya i'll amp it up at the cost of my eyes

[woeful raven]

if its not explicitly hdr it will break if you use any moves

negative colors and stuff

[rustic echo]

my monitor is too crappy, i can't see any breakage

someone else check

be warned of fps

[arctic echo]

I wonder if the crashes with Forge's version are somehow resolution related.

[woeful raven]

if you have something to confirm your theory then its worth looking into

[tough halo]

Yup

[arctic echo]

Just spitballing. Maybe if I can get the game to run in 4k to test later.

[twin haven]

ironically the memory leak in DX11 makes me take a break on the game lol

[tough halo]

You have to change some depth buffer settings

For example reversed 1
And upside down 1

[rustic echo]

If you got a actual good hdr monitor, check scgi for me, cause to me it looks ok, just...well 30fps no playable, maybe crossfinger future stuff

[muted thorn]

I could be dense but every time I turned it on, everything was black except for my characters and NPCs. Nothing I did worked

So more than likely user error

[rustic echo]

you need zenton framework

but umm was that debug?

or normal, so normal...umm depth map stuff~