Silent Hill F

[worldly willow]

You’ll be blind by the time you’re done playing

[leaden cedar]

thats the problem, everyone should be in their moms basement then calibration wouldnt be an issue

[worldly willow]

What screen do you have @leaden cedar

Because 600 paperwhite just makes no sense on a 800 peak tv

[leaden cedar]

im on an LG m7

Vizio m7*

[worldly willow]

Ah

Bro what

[leaden cedar]

you cant calibrate to spec you are playing games with a million color filters and luts applied

[coarse gate]

maybe it has static tonemapping

[worldly willow]

Oh thats not even an OLED the local dimming fucks the 2% highlights

[coarse gate]

I only play horror games at night

[leaden cedar]

i already play with 100 NIS in nvidia and 50 sharpness dont take my word for it

[coarse gate]

mom's basement is the best way to play horror

[leaden cedar]

im a professional NEET

[worldly willow]

That M7 thing seems giga cooked,

27 dimming zones

May as well play sdr ngl

[leaden cedar]

works great 4 me

send us your calibration to spec and lets compare

[worldly willow]

Wym my calibration

[leaden cedar]

your renodx profile thats built "to spec"

lets see if it means anything when third world devs are putting the final touches on HDR and saying "let ship it"

[worldly willow]

Ive not played Silent hill yet cuz im not paying extra to play few days early

My profile would just look like 203 or 250 paperwhite

2550 peak

If there’s an hdr look preset I would try that see if I like it over normal or not

[coarse gate]

there's no spec

[worldly willow]

Yeah

[coarse gate]

unless your display has super broken pq tracking and you fuck with the sliders to compensate

[warped prawn]

how do you get 2550? my g5 is capped at 2000, in gaming mode at least, didn't try the filmmaker one

[worldly willow]

Game Mode is Dimmer

HGIG is cooked on g5 too

Use the professional tonemap

[coarse gate]

just don't change the sliders from default other than game brightness and ui brightness. both of those are entirely preference

[worldly willow]

Put all sliders to 100

[leaden cedar]

so you're here taunting your elite oled but you can't google "silent hill f download" and find a link to play the game right now brother, your priorites are a bit off

[worldly willow]

That’ll fix the peak brightness

You’ll get 2200-2300 in game optimizer

2500-2600 in FMM

[warped prawn]

isn't latency higher in FMM?

[worldly willow]

No

Has been tested by rtings

Identical

[warped prawn]

wow, i'll try it then, sounds cool. thanks. i've been playing on gaming mode and hgig this whole time

[worldly willow]

I could, but I dont pirate stuff anymore unless its some company that I despise like Ubi

[worldly willow]

HGIG was fine on Release Firmware

Now HGIG overtracks EOTF or sumn making it clip sooner

I was having a mental breakdown in hdr den server few months ago because I went from 2550 to 2000 peak even in FMM because they fucked HGIG

[warped prawn]

damn, i thought they fixed all the bullshit with some patches already

@worldly willow btw what about 165hz? is it still gonna be on outside of gaming mode?

[worldly willow]

Yes

You might have to toggle it back on

The game optimizer menu is still accessible

In fmm

Not all settings are toggleable but yeah

165hz toggle works

[blissful coral]

Or running the identical driver versions or hardware.
It's far less useful for Linux as a whole than it is for Steam Deck, since that's fixed-spec running a limited set of driver and hardware combinations.

[warped prawn]

@worldly willow i just tried FMM on windows hdr calibration and it gives me 2200 peak brightness instead of 2550 that you're getting. either i'm doing something wrong or some firmware update reduced the peak brightness

[worldly willow]

Are you still doing HGIG?

Also uhh I think that windows HDR calibration app thing is cooked @wise rover I think 2050 in that menu was already 2500 or sumn?

[warped prawn]

there's no HGIG in FMM. only DTM

[worldly willow]

With color control there is

But yeah don’t do that

Turn on professional

Set all to 100

[warped prawn]

ye still the same. so either hdr calibration tool reports the wrong value or my g5 unit is just not capable of outputting more peak brightness

with professional on 100 it even clips lower now lol, at 2050

[worldly willow]

That seems correct

Do you have a Xbox or PS5 by chance

Their calibration menus are correct

The windows hdr calibration app shows wrong values past 2000 for some reason

[stray vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hehe-gif-27319578

[worldly willow]

SK has some test pattern thing as well apparently but I don’t use SK anymore

[warped prawn]

no sadly, i only play on pc

i'll just test the peak brightness with renodx to see where it really clips

last of us part 1 is great for testing too lol, there's a bright lightbulb right at the start of the game

[worldly willow]

I remember that I used that as well 😭

[warped prawn]

tho you have to use lillium tonemapping because all naughty dog games have 10k peak brightness for some reason that you can't change

[worldly willow]

Yeh

Well part 2 has Reno by Musa i think

Wait am I tripping

Okay was hard to find, its not in mod releases and not mentioned on the renodx mods page, I thought I was delulu for a sec

[hardy ermine]

haha yea I remember part II having reno as well

but not officially communicated kinda

[worldly willow]

@coarse gate shame on you bro

[warped prawn]

isn't hdr in part 2 good on it's own? apart from 10k peak

[lyric silo]

I just saw this post and came here to see the goat Musa is already cooking https://bsky.app/profile/filoppi.bsky.social/post/3lzkht4w62s2y

The mod is not 100% ready no?

[tepid reef]

It’s in beta I believe

[lyric silo]

Gotcha. Let’s hope it’s finalized tomorrow for the non deluxe plebs hahahaha

The native HDR truly looks atrocious

[leaden cedar]

final settings, lowered paper white as per spec but blacks are blacked and brights are bright let me know in the comments how it b

dis b my invictus setting

[lyric silo]

Isnt game brightness supposed to be at around 200 for 800nits?

[leaden cedar]

once again, gentlemen, your tv and monitor specs will not give you the best experience because there are 100 LUTS and shaders and toner mapts between you and your actual screen, if any of your gay tv specs meant shit than you wouldnt be turning to RENODX or SPECIALK or any other mod to make your graphics not look like greyed out crap

i cant beleive this discord is like 90% of dudes who read their montor specs and say "well i cant use that setting cuz its not right"

im like 40 years old and ive never seen the modding scene so cucked by random ass numbers by their chinese monitors

when you guys actually install the game i hope you guys remember the one retard who ran through the entire game twice so you could enjoy it in HDR 200.234 paper white 800.1234235235 exact white preak bright fidelity that your monitor box suggested

https://tenor.com/view/bring-it-around-town-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spin-how-to-blow-a-bubble-gif-19663291

[grand lagoon]

I will give it a shot just in case

[warped prawn]

yea thanks dude, i'm gonna try your settings today. looks good on the screenshots

tho renodx defaults don't look that bad too, i've played for 4 hours yesterday with default settings

[leaden cedar]

thanks man but dont forget to read your monitor box twice so you never go over 123 paper white and 823 luminals or your game will look like shit

[lyric silo]

K dude chill it was just a question

So what you mean is just put game brightness where it looks best to you and fuck the specs?

[leaden cedar]

would you really be here if some japanese dev didnt make your game look like ass on your $2k monitor?

[fleet goblet]

I can't ever trust a man who doubles up on sharpening

[lyric silo]

Obviously not

[severe willow]

I have a Lg C2 I only ever used 203 brightness, is it really better to use 400 or 600?

[fleet goblet]

No

[lyric silo]

I don’t think so since that would probably burn my eyes lol

[leaden cedar]

thats the first valid point ive heard! but then again ive told you guys im sitting in my bed far far away from my tv so dont use my retard level sharpness against me 😂

ive probably got the most famous "reshade settings" across all of pc gaming but here i am telling you guys your TV settings are not going to make this game look like a million bucks

[next yoke]

ABL would probably kick in so not really

[worldly willow]

Bros going crashout

[next yoke]

yeah

[worldly willow]

At the end of the day you can use any settings you want

[coral slate]

just reset tv settings, change dynamic tonemapping -> HGIG
DONE

[worldly willow]

Im just someone who tries to stay close to the artistic intent aka renodx default and then do subtle tweaks from there

[coral slate]

and a proper reno plugin, i hope its ready soon 🙂

[lyric silo]

Well in oled yeah

[leaden cedar]

exactly just let the third worlder outsourced dude doing the HDR broken on release dictacte your settings

[next yoke]

yeah but those settings aren't dictated by him

if it were, it would mean native hdr would be actually good

[worldly willow]

There’s ofc games where even SDR looks pretty flat so renodx default will look same just with uncapped highlights, then I also go ahead and do everything to what I think looks good but that’s rather rare

[lyric silo]

I always use defaults with peak adjusted to my tv ofc

[leaden cedar]

you're right, Keiichirō Toyama put on his glasses, looked at the game in hdr and said "ship it, looks great, if anyone adjusts their settings they are dishonoring their family"

[worldly willow]

I mean adjusted like some saturation or bit more contrast or whatever

[coral slate]

sometimes i prefer special-k tonemapper over native

[lyric silo]

Im such a vanilla bitch that I don’t even do that. I feel dirty. I just want proper HDR with the original grading in SDR

[worldly willow]

Yeah that’s fair I do only small changes to not stray too far from original grading

[next yoke]

i used itms before but i hate not recovering detail so i just play in sdr if there is no reno

[leaden cedar]

who shipped the hDR? person number 1 or 2?

[lyric silo]

Playing in sdr

[worldly willow]

What are you even on about

[lyric silo]

My guy I don’t care. You do you I do me

[coral slate]

SDR feels way too bland man

[coral slate]

https://tenor.com/view/a-child-vine-vines-only-thing-worse-than-a-rapist-child-gif-17395596

[worldly willow]

I only use ITM if I really have to, I agree that a little bit of ITM is okay

I wouldn’t use it above like 600 nits peak tho

[leaden cedar]

stop bring brown guys

[worldly willow]

Starts to really fall apart with how clipped the highlights are

[coral slate]

i think SK looks really good in Warhammer 3 total war

but thats also because there is no native nor reno...

[leaden cedar]

install and play the game with whatever settings you want and then you can circle jerk your monitor NITS and paper whites

[next yoke]

SK looks good, but i like when you can see the textures behind the light source and way better highlights in reno

[next yoke]

relax bro

but its just fact, every screen has a max nits it can show

[coral slate]

Thats true in that case

[leaden cedar]

no more jerking until you gentlemen install and play the game

[blissful coral]

SKIV does too

[next yoke]

and with lower paper white you get the HIGH dynamic RANGE, but its a matter of personal preference so each to their own

[leaden cedar]

new rule, show ingame screenshots of you playing if you want to jerk off about your monitor nits and paper whites

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[coral slate]

@leaden cedar your monitor has Peak 10% Window 529 cd/m²
I can understand why settings doesnt matter for you 🙂

[leaden cedar]

im the retard dumping shaders so you can enjoy the game in perfect paper whites and peak cd/m a week before you buy the game

[coral slate]

yeah i noticed, my point still stands though regarding the 10% peak

[leaden cedar]

im too retarded to even know what this means

[lyric silo]

But you’re still talking about proper hdr settings?

[coral slate]

10% peak is what you're referring to as the top nit on your monitor when calibrating

[leaden cedar]

but your game will be calibrated to my shitty walmart monitor when you play the game

[stray vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26735735

[worldly willow]

Bro can you just go away lmao

Feel free to do whatever you want with renodx

If you wanna use 600 paperwhite with 800 peak and contrast 90 on a 500 nit TV with like 5 dimming zones then that’s ok go ahead

[lyric silo]

Btw. Talking about shaders. Anyone playing can give some feedback about shader comp? Is it really bad? Saw that this game suffers from it in DF

[leaden cedar]

its 7am in new york, you guys are either NEETS like me or indians in some third world so i think this discusion is done, im going to cintue playing the game with my shitty paper white levels 😂

[worldly willow]

Seems kinda bad yeah

Yes have fun

[coral slate]

this mod covers the compilation https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthillf/mods/9
but its working for some and some think its snake oil

[worldly willow]

Am I smelling engine.ini tweaks

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[leaden cedar]

no just curry

[warped prawn]

shader comp is not really noticeable if you're on a high end cpu like 9800x3d. but traversal stutters are everywhere

[coral slate]

yeah... as said, im biased regarding the mod, but worth trying.

[worldly willow]

Oh neat

[lyric silo]

Yeah I ain’t doing weird inis lol

[leaden cedar]

show pic of your hands guys so we know you arent brown

otherwise your opinionsgo out the window

[lyric silo]

Im on a i5 13600K so it should be decent

Traversals are a given in UE5 so I don’t even mention them anymore lol

[lyric silo]

Someone should ban this guy, no?

[tepid reef]

lol

[coral slate]

that would be nice 🙂

[tepid reef]

what is going on

racism in here

[leaden cedar]

not discussion mods with anyone who buys tvs with rupees

[coral slate]

have anyone tried latest DLSS 310.4 with preset K?

[leaden cedar]

enjoy renodx thanks to myself to Masa on nexus

[worldly willow]

CC @meager drum

[next yoke]

didn't know there were only two countries and timezones lmao

[lyric silo]

Hey! @meager drum sorry for the ping. We got a racist f*ck in the server that’s really annoying people. Could you unleash the banhammer? ❤️

[worldly willow]

[lyric silo]

Lol we did it at the same time xD

[lyric silo]

Americans be like sometimes xD

[worldly willow]

I’ve asked in supporter channel already heh

[stray vale]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-23464742

[leaden cedar]

typical foriengers, mad all the time about everything

enjoy my work

[warped prawn]

yes. looks great. didn't spot any ghosting or artifacts

[coral slate]

Nice, thanks!

[leaden cedar]

ill remake my account with an indian name to fit in next week

[worldly willow]

Just because you helped Musa doesn’t mean you get a free ticket to be racist and generally disrespectful

[leaden cedar]

im just poking fun of you fellas giving each other fellatio over your monitor paper whites like most americans joke about

[granite pelican]

I am Indian

[leaden cedar]

great brother you're one of the good ones

[worldly willow]

Yeah nah man backpedaling isn’t gonna help you either

[teal hatch]

No you’re just an ass

[leaden cedar]

thats ok brother i have contributed enough to the gaming world for over 10 years than you ever will have, im too old to argue with kids in a random chat room

[teal hatch]

Says the bro randomly arguing in a chat room

You think stats are impressive because you managed to dupe a bunch of morons on nexus, good job

[leaden cedar]

brother i told your friend, i wont argue with browns, thats the end

[teal hatch]

Who said I was brown

[leaden cedar]

enjoy your reno dx

[teal hatch]

You’re just a racist twat

[lyric silo]

Thanks for sharing! Now I know what to avoid downloading ❤️

[teal hatch]

lol

[leaden cedar]

yep, got banned from nexus after 15 years because i called you browns out

im ok, retired and enjoying life as an american NEET now

[teal hatch]

i hope you get banned from here

[leaden cedar]

fine with me brother, i hope so too

i helped you guys with your hdr mod, and now my work is done

[teal hatch]

no one cares

[leaden cedar]

hopefully when folks like me get banned from everything you guys will actually put in the work to make mods and not be leeches

[teal hatch]

when you get banned, nothing of note will be missed

[leaden cedar]

hopefully you have the talent to replace folks like me

and not jerk off about your hdr monitor in discord chats

[granite pelican]

Spamming

[teal hatch]

bro's mods are total shit as well

[blissful coral]

Nexus Mods is also

[leaden cedar]

anyways, enjoy reno DX for silent hill F, you can thank your mod efforts to Americans like myself

[teal hatch]

ill thank musa

[leaden cedar]

musa is an honorary american white

[blissful coral]

...

[leaden cedar]

i vouch for his effort, skill, and knowledge

and would happily have him on our programming and IT team in the USA

[teal hatch]

learn to quit

[leaden cedar]

@coarse gate looking forward to everything you produce

[tepid reef]

Smh bro

[blissful coral]

Real quality community we have here.
/bye

[coral slate]

dont let one bad apple spoil the rest

[leaden cedar]

i jerk to this

you will never work in the usa, just stop bro

you are nothing but a twitter meme

[fleet goblet]

that's one hell of a crash out over the suggestion of having your paper white set too high

[leaden cedar]

everyone from Hyderabad or Bengaluru jsut needs to stop posting

you arent helping the mod you arent contributing anything

[leaden cedar]

sort of, everoyone here is obviously from mumbai except me who is retired in the usa making mods for fun

[next yoke]

kal already left lmao

first hdr den now renodx too

[leaden cedar]

alex you're one of the white ones stop while you're ahead

your country will slowly have the same fate as the rest of us

[teal hatch]

well that's just kal making it about himself, he's not without fault

[leaden cedar]

you laugh but you will come back here in 5 years and say "damn i should have listened to the american" @next yoke

[teal hatch]

did you guys hear something?

[river aspen]

I'm so confused that's all I'm going to say

[leaden cedar]

i didnt think everyone was brown but damn, you guys are really 90% brown

[frozen osprey]

What actually ultra plus mod do? Only optimizations?

[warped prawn]

some optimizations + allows you to tweak the graphics quality beyond epic settings

[leaden cedar]

i tried it and its like ultra settings + more . this is the latest, honeestly gives shittier fps but good if you use it with an engine.ini mod from nexus for SHF. worse fps but slightly better graphics

you can download it directly from the discord https://discord.gg/Yc4cGAFg

[noble matrix]

Mind sharing your skin settings as well? Haha. Dude. Honestly. Appreciate what you did for this mod, but let's take it a tad bit easier. Just saying. I'm just another random dude on the internet, but... Come on.

[frozen osprey]

i already tried it but beta gives me some strange all screen artifacts when in water or any movable surface

[teal hatch]

dude is a racist moron dont thank him for shit

[cursive bay]

@coarse gate Hi Musa, good morning, I installed everything correctly, activated HDR in the game and in Windows, but I'm not sure if it's working because I move the adjustment sliders in RenoDX and nothing changes in real-time. Is this correct?

[leaden cedar]

thats the thing, its supposed to be "Better than ultra" but realistically the difference vs ingame epic is barely noticable, i dont care what peopel say but this mod does a LOT to help fps https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthillf/mods/25

everyone in chat hates this dudes mods but I can definitely say vs ingame everything ultra this mod helps maintain 60 fps at 4k vs anything else ive downloaded

and thats on my shitty american 800 nit TV 😂

[frozen osprey]

do u use any fg mods with that?

[gloomy orbit]

Hello, one doubt guys. When do we have to install Reshade 6.5.1 and when the specific RenoDX Reshade version?

And what happens if, for example I install the RenoDX Reshade for this mod? Does it work?

[leaden cedar]

no my tv is 60hz, my computer can easily do 60fps so no need for any fram gen stuff, but there is Optiscaler mod on nexus if you need one, just keep in mind the last guy who tried it could not got HDR RENODX to work

[leaden cedar]

install latest reshade WITH ADDONS, then scroll up for RenoDX in the pinned comments and that should have everything working

[teal hatch]

so you're just linking to your own mods

[leaden cedar]

come on bro my name Drogean is 10+ years of mod making, i dont need to pretend im this dude

show us your contributions

[teal hatch]

you got banned and this is your alt

[leaden cedar]

just stop man, i take back what i said calling you brown lets just focus on the mods here

[kindred nimbus]

what the fuck is happening in this chat

[stuck plume]

mods?

[worldly willow]

Everyone deadge

[hardy ermine]

wtf happened here

please get these racists outta here man

[severe willow]

I have 800 peak what would I set it to ideally?

[lyric silo]

I would suggest adding more mods to this server tbh

Yeah I have 975 and I just use 200

Not an exact match but works good enough

[leaden cedar]

im going to go against the grain and say "bring up the mod, slide everything up and down until you like it"

[lyric silo]

Yeah

[leaden cedar]

@severe willow you're playing a game where these fuckers couldnt even be bothered to actually make your thousand dollar monitor look good with default hdr settings, slide the slidres until it looks good to YOU. you like super dark ass blacks? do it! you like super bright ass whites? do it

by the way here are my hdr settings they are the only ones you should try cuz my COSTCO tv is super amazing

thats an american joke folks chill the fuk out

dont be racist fella, gotta make sure you let the rest of the world know costco is just as good as their stores or you get doxxed and fired

[gloomy orbit]

how do you calculate it?

[leaden cedar]

dude come on dont fall for this Telugu shit, its a fuxxing tv/monitor, its not hard science, move the bars until you like it

[hardy ermine]

while I agree with the general sentiment, having a proper paper white setting helps with good contrast levels since you should leave enough headroom for highlights to pop.

[leaden cedar]

do you honestly trust a white paper setting for 99% of games here the HDR setting "out of the box" is completley broken and shit?

[hardy ermine]

that's why we have renodx..

to fix broken shit and make it look proper

[leaden cedar]

yes but renoDX doesn't just make all the shaders and LUTS dissapear

[hardy ermine]

also I don't even wanna talk to you honestly I lost all respect when I saw ur ugly comments

[lyric silo]

I just blocked him to avoid seeing dumb shit

[stuck plume]

just ban this guy pls

[gloomy orbit]

I just want to know how to calculate it for a reference brightness level. If I test it and I don't like it, I will move the bars, but at least I want to know what's the reference point to know where to start.

[leaden cedar]

its like tweaking a JJ abramhs movie where hes got a million lense flares, blue and green hue everythng , and then you say "welp my tv is 200 white paper so i'll just set that, oh im 800 nits so i'll just set that, boy it looks dark but welp, its my specs"

@gloomy orbit you can attmept to tweak to your monitor specs but you're gonna be so disappointed its going to be gay af

@hardy ermine @lyric silo @stuck plume you dudes are sad and brown, contribute something in your lives, we are here to mod and discuss, you guys offer absoutely nothing to the modding scene and demand bans when somebody calls you a leech, just stop, you probably havnt even bought the game

[spiral badger]

Yo someone ban this dude

[leaden cedar]

dont start, you also havnt done anything

the entire world is done with this crap, you dudes go int oevery chat, do nothing, and demand bans when your feelins are hurt

[fleet goblet]

read the room and shut up already

[leaden cedar]

dude ive been answering every questions from noobs and helping the mod maker actually make this mod, wtf have you done

go back to reddit, let the mod makers make the mods

[gloomy orbit]

Thanks!!

[steep copper]

Sadly this is normal in third person UE5 games, no idea what causes it

[waxen trout]

How about hair? They're aliased like hell.

[lyric silo]

Mb in UE5 kinda sucks by default. They probably didnt tweak it much or at all

[leaden cedar]

there is a mod called ultraplus+ that modifies things like the shaders and effects (motionblur) so you can go in and modify exctly how much or how little you want. heres the files. extract and go into SILENT HILL f\SHf\Binaries\Win64\ue4ss\Mods\UltraPlusExtensions\scripts\config, open up UltraPlusConfig.ini, then for motion blur set to .1 to have it set to MINIMUM

[waxen trout]

So Reno + Opti game not starting is normal and not a Linux quirk if I'm reading the announcement correctly

[leaden cedar]

@waxen trout ultra plus mod fixed my hair so it looks like 100% resolution

@waxen trout hows it look

[warped prawn]

how much u+ tanks the fps?

[leaden cedar]

off the bat , if you get 60 fps id say 10 fps

but go to nexus and get a performance engine.ini and you're back to 60 fps

[waxen trout]

I'm guessing the artifacts are due to upscaling

But yeah aliasing looks a lot better

[leaden cedar]

bit of a performance hit tho

[waxen trout]

It's ok I'm capping @ 60

Should have plenty of headroom

[leaden cedar]

give it a go, dont yell at me but this https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthillf/mods/25 gets its back to 60 fps, you can use it on top of the Ultra plus mod

before you say anything, i dont know if its some AI bullshit config but vs without its 10 fps

[hardy ermine]

because it literally uses lower than low settings for most parts

U+ modder confirmed this

[leaden cedar]

maybe so but then UltraPlus overwrites the low settings

[hardy ermine]

just saying it will lower your quality so of course you might gain performance

[leaden cedar]

maybe it does but the game isnt a friggen next gen Fary Cry, i think this mod gets a lot of hate for no reason, it increaes fps for a minimum graphically not noticable decrease

[kindred nimbus]

ultraplus guideline is usually to try and increase performance without affecting visuals negatively, while sometimes adding additional highers settings (enabling hardware raytracing or adding additional denoisers)

[grand lagoon]

Holyyy

10 fps

How is that worth it

[kindred nimbus]

paolox and hybred mods are kinda sketchy, but if youre happy then whatever

[hardy ermine]

yea usually like 80% is filled with fake cvars and the rest might do something or is a default value anyway

[kindred nimbus]

and then selling it on patreon

[hardy ermine]

and they reupload the mod for every game

and make big nexus money

[light ice]

do you guys have a recommended preset for 1000 nits oled monitor?

[lyric silo]

I mean most times not even U+ is needed

[spiral badger]

I know these engine ini mods are popular but are they actually making a significant amount from nexus?

[kindred nimbus]

yeah in general if i'm not having issues i'm not modding anything. but other times it can be a gamechanger

but thats the case with any mod

use what you need

[hardy ermine]

I think at a certain point they actually do make some money which you can use to buy other games and stuff

not sure how nexus rewards work in detail I usually just donate all my points

oh yea I just saw you can actually pay out your earned DP on nexus so yea I'm pretty sure you can actually make some money on the side that way by just reuploading the same mod lol

[spiral badger]

Nahhhh lol, it's time for me to start making up cvars to be extra special

[lyric silo]

Yeah you totally can

Is the current beta of the mod usable? Or still has issues?

[meager drum]

Timeout for a week. Learn to act like a human being. (Edit: he left server, so it's a ban now)

[noble matrix]

@coarse gate thoughts?

[coarse gate]

Mod is already hdr10 since I’m just hijacking native hdr

[noble matrix]

Nice :))

[coarse gate]

Fg doesn’t work in 16 bit

Scrgb has higher bit depth

Idk guess it’s performance/bandwidth stuff

[crimson sequoia]

@sleek turret So, compared to SH2R, how does this fare? 🙂

[ember pond]

In some aspects, I think he has a point. A white paper going through dozens of LUTs and shaders can’t really be judged by numbers alone.
For example, I find 203 ppw way too bright for this game.
However, in Assassin’s Creed Shadows, 203 ppw looks unacceptably dark.

That’s why I usually adjust the settings myself depending on the surrounding environment where I sit, so that it feels most comfortable.

[coarse gate]

Paper white doesn’t correlate to a paper or anything

It’s a dumb term anyway

It’s just how bright is Rgb (1,1,1) in nits

What that means in practice depends on how exposed the game is in general

[meager drum]

Reference white is the video nerd term. Diffuse white is the color nerd term

Paper white is the gamer term (from Ubisoft)

[coarse gate]

Do we actually know they made it

[meager drum]

Yes

From assassins creed

One of them, forgot which

[coarse gate]

Origins

It’s just that idk if we just say that cause it’s the first game we know that used the term

[meager drum]

I've looked into it before

[warped prawn]

you mean it's the first game ever to call it "paper white"?

[kindred nimbus]

THANK YOU

i was always so confused why its called that

[coarse gate]

in ac origins they say to look at the towel in the calibration menu and when it saturates to white I might be mixing it up with a different calibration menu

[meager drum]

Paper doesn't have 100% reflectance either. It's a mistake to call it that. Paper is like 80-90%

You need laboratory level equipment to get anything with 99%

[coarse gate]

stupid unreal grain, robocop was the same

  float _436 = FilmGrainTextureConstants[0].x;
  float _437 = FilmGrainTextureConstants[0].y;
  float _438 = FilmGrainTextureConstants[0].z;
  float _439 = dot(float3(_431, _432, _433), float3(0.04055500403046608f, 0.7329696416854858f, -0.031567495316267014f));
  float _443 = saturate(_439 / FilmGrainShadowsMax);
  float _447 = (_443 * _443) * (3.0f - (_443 * 2.0f));
  float _455 = saturate((_439 - FilmGrainHighlightsMin) / (FilmGrainHighlightsMax - FilmGrainHighlightsMin));
  float _459 = (_455 * _455) * (3.0f - (_455 * 2.0f));
  float _469 = (((_447 - _459) * FilmGrainIntensityMidtones) + (FilmGrainIntensityShadows * (1.0f - _447))) + (FilmGrainIntensityHighlights * _459);
  float3 _481 = FilmGrainTexture.SampleLevel(FilmGrainSampler, float2(((ScreenPosToFilmGrainTextureUV.x * TEXCOORD_3.x) + ScreenPosToFilmGrainTextureUV.z), ((ScreenPosToFilmGrainTextureUV.y * TEXCOORD_3.y) + ScreenPosToFilmGrainTextureUV.w)), 0.0f);
  float4 _526 = ColorGradingLUT.Sample(ColorGradingLUTSampler, float3(((LUTScale * saturate((log2((((((_481.x * _436) + -1.0f) * _469) + 1.0f) * _431) + 0.002667719265446067f) * 0.0714285746216774f) + 0.6107269525527954f)) + LUTOffset), ((LUTScale * saturate((log2((((((_481.y * _437) + -1.0f) * _469) + 1.0f) * _432) + 0.002667719265446067f) * 0.0714285746216774f) + 0.6107269525527954f)) + LUTOffset), ((LUTScale * saturate((log2((((((_481.z * _438) + -1.0f) * _469) + 1.0f) * _433) + 0.002667719265446067f) * 0.0714285746216774f) + 0.6107269525527954f)) + LUTOffset)));

[meager drum]

Oldest reference I can find which is talking more about printing paper white and makes sense in that context. But on physical paper, not a screen
https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/dynamic-range.htm 2006

But "print and computer displays" => "paper white or a maximum intensity pixel" probably meant respectively

[manic hill]

How do I use the ultra + mod

[meager drum]

• https://www.google.com/search?q="paper+white"+before%3A2017+hdr
• https://www.google.com/search?q="paper+white"+before%3A2018+hdr

Only comes up because Origins in 2017*

[coarse gate]

I’m seeing it in b&h’s website

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/tips-and-solutions/dynamic-range-explained

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/dynamic-range.htm
that image you sent

2006

[meager drum]

Talking print though, actual paper

The output when you print it

Not HDR

2017 is when Origins came out. Even Narkowicz fitted ACES from 2016 had a comment about paper white after Origins releases

[coarse gate]

Ya just saw that

Problem is the way we refer to paper white isn’t even how origins used it

In origins it’s a multiplier on exposure before the color grading

They do exposure -> color grade -> aces

And the contrast variable also dynamically increases as you increase paper white

[meager drum]

Pre exposure 100%?

[coarse gate]

The exposure variable doesn’t cleanly and linearly map in any way to the paper white value

I had to by eye match up the exposure parameter with various paper whites and their SDR equivalent

And make a curve fit

[meager drum]

We use reference white as a synonym for paper white

Or vice versa

Diffuse white as SMPTE calls it

Narkowicz says its ~1

Not 1.0

[coarse gate]

float CalculatePaperWhiteExposureCompensation(float paper_white) {
  float x = paper_white;
  float exposure = 0.3849059f
                   - 0.0007877044f * x
                   + 5.215512e-7f * x * x;
  return lerp(1.0f, exposure, CUSTOM_EXPOSURE_COMPENSATION);
}

Thankfully the contrast parameter scaled linearly and cleanly with paper white

float CalculatePaperWhiteContrastCompensation(float paper_white) {
  float contrast = mad(-0.0002f, paper_white, 0.92f);
  return lerp(1.0f, contrast, CUSTOM_CONTRAST_COMPENSATION);
}

[meager drum]

More like a pivot point. Where we use 0.18

[nova pewter]

just drop the SHf folder to your installed location on top of SHf

[meager drum]

All I got from this is the first number is 1/2.6. I feel like I've seen 2.6 as some sort of knee in BT documents

Probably mostly gibberish and coincidence though

[sullen mulch]

We finally had Kal back in the server and had to have a turbo racist scare him off at the same time 😩

[meager drum]

breaks at 750, lowers exposure i guess. weird function

[coarse gate]

Ya it doesn’t work as well for higher values but iirc it only goes to 500

[meager drum]

turbo racist is in SK, that's how I got the ID

[coarse gate]

Unreasonable to ever put paper white above like 350 anyway

[meager drum]

seem like just some "we want number to go down starting at A and ending at B" function

[coarse gate]

Ya

[sullen mulch]

Wild lol

[fossil mountain]

sup. is it latest mod ver? Or is there something newer?

[wise rover]

Yes

Every 10 units after 2000 is 100 nits.

2100 is 3k.

[peak pond]

check pins

[teal hatch]

https://codeberg.org/Lyall/SHfFix

[lyric silo]

No more 30fps cap hell yes

[lyric silo]

Is the pinned one gameplay ready? Or still needs work?

[cursive plover]

Tested. Works great.

When I first installed my game was glitching out like crazy. After reinstalling the nvidia driver, thus resetting the shader cache, the HDR fix works properly.

[honest badger]

Thanks for sharing this info. I tested FMM on my G5 with the setting you wrote down (professional all sliders at 100). Could tell the difference instantly in the Windows hdr calibration tool. Now my peak brightness is 2500 nits. Months ago i "calibrated" the TV in the game optimizer mode and got the same peak brightness. If i do that now i only get 2000 nits. Crazy that they changed it. Thanks to you that is now fixed again. Thank you.

[worldly willow]

Glad to help

[honest badger]

I should add 2500 nits is not what i set the slider to in the calibartion app. That slider was at 2050. After i applied the new hdr profile windows reported its 2500 nits

[worldly willow]

I was so mad when the update broke HGIG

Doesn’t seem like they even know

[honest badger]

yeah thats crazy

I got so many Firmware updates

[worldly willow]

Im not even sure how known that is in general

[honest badger]

i thought by now they fixed all the big bugs

[worldly willow]

Most things are I guess

But yeah 2050 is correct, for some reason past 2000 every 10 step is 100 nit like Umer said

[honest badger]

Lets hope so. The big problem for me is that i dont have a source for news on that kind of thing. I sometimes have problems to find out what even changed in the firmware updates

[worldly willow]

Weird quirk of that calibration app

[honest badger]

yep that is correct.

[warped prawn]

@worldly willow just tested on SpecialK test pattern and it clips at around ~2450 in FMM. thanks man! gonna play in FMM from now, didn't even know that gaming mode cuts off so much nits

[worldly willow]

[worldly willow]

That’s on LG tho

Bros be like fixed issues

Kthanksbye

[weary dew]

ya for TV's it always happend sadly in game mode, that why i always have that set to off on my tv ^^ and the latency is still decent , fine with Game mode off

[worldly willow]

On the G5 it’s actually identical latency

[wise rover]

Yeah, that's just Windows HDR Calibration app.

Works that way with every single panel.

Glad you got it at 2500 nits, though. What size is your TV btw?

[tepid reef]

is 800 and 203 fine for a 65" c9 oled?

[honest badger]

Its the 55 Model

[wise rover]

Based.

Nice!

[warped prawn]

is that g5 exclusive thing? i'm pretty sure that was not the case on C3. i could instanly tell that the latency is lower the moment i switched on gaming mode

[indigo owl]

@worldly willow do I have to put all sliders on 100 under prefessional tone mapping?

[worldly willow]

Yes

[worldly willow]

Possibly? Not sure I upgraded from my CX

Haven’t really been looking much at the models in between

[wise rover]

C4 and onwards barely noticeable latency.

If at all.

C3 and prior, I believe had a minor latency hit.

But G5 looks to be solid and tbh ...

FMM with HGiG is overall a far better trade off

Than fraction of a latency hit, if even that.

Or well, professional sliders to max, in your case.

[worldly willow]

That way basically what you’re doing is, do not tonemap on the tv at all like HGIG which lets the source do the tonemapping

[indigo owl]

anything else i should do when switching from gameoptimizer?

[worldly willow]

I don’t think I did have to change anything really

If you lose 165hz then you have to go into the game optimizer menu (still works in FMM) and toggle it there

[indigo owl]

thanks bro much love ❤️

[worldly willow]

When I’m home I can check maybe I’m forgetting something

[warped prawn]

yea i guess the trick to identical latency is having game optimizer enabled. when i switched to FMM it was still on, didn't have to do anything, same for 165hz

[indigo owl]

been playing with only peek 2000 nits for way to long

[indigo owl]

thanks, you're the goat

[worldly willow]

It’s worse when you played on release firmware and had 2550 working

Then patch comes and you’re like

Where ma 500 nit?

[warped prawn]

rtings says ALLM helps with latency but i think ALLM doesn't even work on pc? only consoles

[worldly willow]

[indigo owl]

yea that sucks

[worldly willow]

I think I have it on but eh don’t think it matters

[indigo owl]

but I got mine on release and thought it was broken because it kept randomly restarting

[bright coyote]

https://youtu.be/cwAhrB4MUEY

U guys with 5090 have those stutters like he does?

[worldly willow]

Kek

[bright coyote]

I don't have them on 7900xtx

[indigo owl]

so i send it back to the seller which was in austria (I'm from germany) which cost a lot

only to eventually find out that it was caused by a stupid hdmi splitter

[warped prawn]

ye there are traversal stutters but i wouldn't say they're unbearable

[worldly willow]

German Gang

[indigo owl]

gang gang

[bright coyote]

For him game just stops from time to time

[worldly willow]

I got mine like pre release in Germany technically

[bright coyote]

I don't have thst

[indigo owl]

thats sick

the 55 inch version was 500€ cheaper in austria

thought i got a nice deal

pre order price btw

[warped prawn]

ye i don't have that either. i had a huge shader comp stutter when you walk thru town, the same that was shown in the digital foundry video. aside from that nothing major

[worldly willow]

Just checked March 28 at my door

I got a pre order deal from a retailer too

[indigo owl]

how did you get it that early?

[honest badger]

Me too. Or at least very early.

[worldly willow]

2245€

[honest badger]

Where did you buy?

[indigo owl]

wtf how

[honest badger]

That is a good deal.

[worldly willow]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-silencio-htlr-shh-gif-22299599

[warped prawn]

btw does anybody know if there's a way to turn off lens dirt effect via engine.ini or something? they are really annoying in this game

[worldly willow]

Very likely that you can

Or hide the shader with reshade kek

[warped prawn]

you can see it all over the screen. it's pretty ridiculous

and i think they started showing up only after a certain chapter. very strange decision

[coral slate]

hmm

is it me or is there banding?

HDR PNG^

especially visible here...

[lyric silo]

Its shader comp

[olive fox]

I dont see it im ngl

[coral slate]

its more obious in movement but second image in middle above the lamp, around the light aura

[olive fox]

I genuinely cannot see it

even zooming in 500%

[lethal sparrow]

It's there but it's not super visible in stills. I was also taken aback by the banding in that segment - it's very obvious in motion

[meager drum]

might be some r11g11b10 render. i upgraded oblivion remastered because of banding

[whole halo]

Is this color banding normal? For reference, I have an LG 45GR95QE-B OLED monitor.

Here are the RenoDX settings I'm using.

[grand lagoon]

I'm having weird texture issue with the ultra mod

like some are poping out of nowhere on my screens

flickery like

[noble matrix]

[Disable Cutscene Pillarboxing]
; Disables pillarboxing/letterboxing in cutscenes.
Enabled = true
Do you guys know if this is only for Ultrawide? Sometimes it comes by default and I have to be sure I'm not eliminating those on 16:9 normal aspect ratio as they're supposed to be.

[cursive plover]

I had same issue. Reinstalling driver fixed it

Does the renodx HDR mod automatically fix the black floor ?

Default settings

I assume so. Blacks look fine to me. Just making sure.

[grand lagoon]

you had like textures twisting all over your screen ?

[cursive plover]

Yes

It's caused by messed up shaders

[grand lagoon]

alright thx i'm reinstalling driver

[lethal sparrow]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/filoppi.bsky.social/post/3lzkht4w62s2y

Saw this going around about the default HDR but I can't seem to replicate it in the areas I'm in. Isolated incident? Misleading tweet? Bug?

@[email protected]

The state of HDR in the game industry right now is catastrophic.
︀︀Silent Hill F, AAA game, shipped w/out color grading in HDR, on top of the raised blacks that come with all UE HDR games
︀︀
︀︀It doesn't look as it's supposed to in HDR, atmospehre is completely gone, devs either didn't know or care for it

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FxBluesky · Sep 24, 2025, 3:14 AM

Regarding the colour grade I mean

[noble matrix]

More like an industry standard sadly I'd say. You'd have to compare HDR to SDR to replicate it.

[lethal sparrow]

That's what I did

Grade is the same, only difference is just from tonemapping

Hence my confusion

[granite halo]

sdr image

[lethal sparrow]

yes, i tonemapped the HDR one to SDR for the sake of discord displaying it corrently

[granite halo]

discord supports hdr png

[lethal sparrow]

Right but we're talking about colour grade so that doesnt matter

[granite halo]

UE default hdr skips luts

if theres no luts there then it can be the same

[lethal sparrow]

Alrighty, I'll test in some other areas

[teal hatch]

its for ultrawide and narrower so that would include 16:9

[noble matrix]

I'm asking because it's always like that by default and many people rush to unlock FPS in cuscentes but they also end up kind of ruining the presentation if you nuke letterboxing. I think that happened a lot in COE33 and that game used letterboxing and pillarboxing excellently.

[noble matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-here-we-go-again-meme-here-we-go-again-gta-meme-gta-sa-gif-17384567604138647795

Played a bit, crashed again. Will reboot system and try, but I was seeing those textures kind of stretching all over the place and when the cutscene ended it crashed.

[olive fox]

did you clear your shaders?

[sullen mulch]

totally agree. I don't get the hate for letter/pillarboxing. If it's how the cutscenes are framed it's just gonna look better.

[wise rover]

Same

I do mind it if it's applied throughout the game, but even then I'll play it like that generally.

I removed it in NieR way back, but I also gave fuck all about intent back then.

Albeit, I was overly tired of NieR's BS on many fronts, that I just installed SK and took in all the fixes.

[olive fox]

it was really bad and distracting in evil within imo

[sullen mulch]

it's game dependent for sure

[olive fox]

if you disable it in co33 you lost the plot

especially the 4:3 framing is so important for the presentation

[wise rover]

This stuff doesn't apply if you're already playing on 21:9, right? If you're already ultrawide or super ultrawide, and this gets applied on top.

Then I can see it being a major issue.

[olive fox]

unless the mod only nukes the widescreen letterboxes

[sullen mulch]

like if something like the god of war reboot did it, I'd fix that just cause it goes against the immersive one shot seamlessness they went for

[olive fox]

which is still bad

[gritty frigate]

I am happy with that

[sullen mulch]

or I'll do it in an RPG where it's just like, basic offset dialogue shots

but properly directed cutscenes just look worse without it imo

[olive fox]

usually artificial black bars are added on top of whatever resolution you have

from what I've seen

[teal hatch]

I’m sure Lyall knows what he’s doing

Don’t know why a game is going vert- anyway, it’s freaking UE 5.4.2

[olive fox]

I dont think lyall cares about artistic intent, I dont mean that deragtory I just think he prefers it off

[noble matrix]

Yes. Absolutely. That's why I find it very surprising letterboxing being turned off by default. Here in SHf I'd say there none involved so maybe it's just to fix some UW stuff.

[toxic orbit]

might be an oversight as i'm pretty sure lyall is on ultrawide and doesn't really think from a 16:9 perspective

[teal hatch]

so Lyall just needs to separate letterboxing and pillarboxing controls?

[grand lagoon]

it has fixed it for me, for now. Hope i won't have to do it again though 🤣

[coarse gate]

I’ll add a note

[sleek turret]

In terms of what, exactly?

Because being honest with you, i don't think i would call this game a Silent Hill game exactly.

It's more of it's own thing

I like what it is though

[bright coyote]

fuck this bitch

[sleek turret]

SH2R to me was "ok what if we took an old game that was good and made it worse"

[grand lagoon]

I dislike the stamina thing for now

but otherwise this is a good game for me, but I would not quite call it a Silent Hill

[sleek turret]

Meanwhile, i don't think this game is exactly trying to be a Silent Hill game

[crimson sequoia]

As an actual game 😛

[sleek turret]

It's more of it's own thing and as it's own thing I like it.

[crimson sequoia]

I don't think I've had the hope of seeing a new "old school" SH after 3, so frankly I am happy if they don't try to mimic that like idiots

[crimson sequoia]

Cool

[sleek turret]

There's some odd decisions to me, surrounding combat in particular

[crimson sequoia]

I watched the SkillUp review earlier

[sleek turret]

But i would say this game is good, if you are not expecting this game to be Silent Hill 2 or 3 again.

[crimson sequoia]

It does feel like they don't want you to fight everything like a madman

[sleek turret]

Well yes and no

Yes they don't want you to do that, but they made it really easy to do that

[crimson sequoia]

Even in Hard mode?

[sleek turret]

And also, uh, there's some parts where the game just puts you into a narrow hallway with like 3-4 things in it and you have to pass through it to move forward

I don't really have much of an option here

[sleek turret]

Yes, I heard it was worse on Story mode lmao

The game is a lot more fun if you don't try to murder hobo anything in your way

even if the game does technically allow you to play like that

but there's also some times where you don't really have an option

anyway this is why i feel the combat is weird, it's not badly implemented exactly, it functions well

[crimson sequoia]

From what I understand, weapons are breakable, so I imagined you'd not want to kill everything

[sleek turret]

it's just that it feels at odds with the game they wanted to make lmao

[lyric silo]

Oh really? Did you completely switch hdr and Reno off and reboot?

[lyric silo]

With ultra+ or Reno?

[crimson sequoia]

Everytime I read about forced narrow corridors these days, I always think of that late game chapter in FFXV at launch, with that stupid ring rofl

[lethal sparrow]

Yup, I don't even have Reno installed

[sleek turret]

I mean it makes more sense on this game since you know, narrow japanese streets and all.

[crimson sequoia]

Fair

[whole halo]

Any fix for the color banding issues around lights and fog?

[sleek turret]

Anyway i don't think the combat is bad, it's just that having this game have a combat focus is just ??????????

Like "why"

[olive fox]

all silent hill games are combat focused

the combat is just usually ass

[lyric silo]

Oh wait wrong message lol. I dunno then

[sleek turret]

Well yes but the combat being ass discourages combat

[lyric silo]

Survival horror works best when the combat is ass imo

[crimson sequoia]

And here, it's not ass enough apparently, hence the conflicting feeling lol

[olive fox]

enemies not giving rewards also discourages combat

[lyric silo]

May be an unpopular opinion

[sleek turret]

There's not a lot discouraging combat in here

[olive fox]

theres no reason to fight

devs said they made it give no rewards on purpose

so you dont feel like you have to fight

[sleek turret]

there's no reason to fight except that you know, they force you to fight

some times at least

[gritty frigate]

Hey anyone knows what's that ?

[sleek turret]

Like i'm avoiding combat as much as i can but sometimes i'm just looking at the game and going "ok what does it want me to do?"

[olive fox]

I think thats pretty normal game design

idk

[lyric silo]

This is actually the difference in grading you can see in the bsky post that was just shared. If you’re using Reno maybe it’s missing a shader?

[lethal sparrow]

I just build focus to max, hit R1, and every dies in a swing or two after that. Long as I have items to keep sanity up, the combat is pretty trivial

[gritty frigate]

idk It worked fine until that invisible wall, seems to be reverting to sdr

[lyric silo]

Yea probably a beta issue then. You can ping the author

[sleek turret]

I don't think the combat is bad actually

I just find that having this combat in the game kinda conflicts with it being a horror game

[jagged moon]

The thing is there are areas where enemies respawn infinitely as well as immortal monsters

[noble matrix]

In my limited knowledge I'd say that's an example of UE skipping LUTs so maybe there are some shaders missing still for RenoDX. I'd try to keep the savefile so @coarse gate maybe would like to check.

[coarse gate]

Send me that save file

Do the slider stop working in that area?

[crimson sequoia]

Not really when the theme and style of the game should imply that... you should not be a badass fighter (like James became in SH2R lol) wasting everything in your wake, as well as gameplay since apparently beating enemies does not reward you with anything anyway... But the game still has sections that forces you to fight?

We could call that loose ends, if you prefer

It's not tight enough

[olive fox]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sleek turret]

yesn't

[olive fox]

I mean you got Heather using guns and stuff

[sleek turret]

during normal gameplay weapons are brekable

but you also have segments where you gain a special weapon that doesn't have durability

so you know what that means

[gritty frigate]

I've tried after that point and is no longer working

[coarse gate]

Must be missing lutbuilder

I can add that in a bit

[crimson sequoia]

Yeah, right

These dream sequences, from what I saw in that video review?

[gritty frigate]

what can I say... The goat Memes

[grand lagoon]

yes I also had that

[sleek turret]

I think? ||It's when you are in a shrine with a Naginata||

[crimson sequoia]

Yes, that

I was a bit like wtf when I saw the footage as that felt kinda jarring to see her wield that given the game, but whatever I guess

[gritty frigate]

did u try re enable sliders after that point?

[sleek turret]

It's as you said, there's some loose ends in the design

I don't think it detracts too much from the game, it's just "Huh that sure is a decision i guess"

[crimson sequoia]

Well I bought it anyway, gotta support my G Ryukishi07

[crimson sequoia]

Eyyyy

[sleek turret]

I do think the game would have been better if it leaned less on combat but oh well

[crimson sequoia]

As long as the story and themes are interesting, I am all for it

[sleek turret]

play on combat hard btw, this game is a joke otherwise.

[wise rover]

my only concern cause combat looked jank in videos.

I'll play tonight (for sure) so we'll see.

[sleek turret]

I do not think it is jank

It would have been better if it was jank tbh

[gritty frigate]

I agree or maybe making it a bit more challenging would do the job too...

[wise rover]

LMAO

Looked overall jank in videos, so good to hear it's not actually jank in gameplay.

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill-f-sandevistan-hinako-konami-gif-3131135365214721857

Someone shared this and had me LOL.

[crimson sequoia]

Don't expect Bloodborne, I think lol

[wise rover]

Nah, nothing like that. It just like weapon in her hand and distance to enemy and everything, it just felt off and halfbaked.

If game itself is fine, that's cool by me.

[gritty frigate]

Need to be a bit more like sh2 remake where some shit waits you around corner and hide in my opinion

[sleek turret]

it looks more jank than it actually is

If you are not playing it it does look pretty strange, but during gameplay it's fine i feel like

[wise rover]

That's good

[gritty frigate]

Fixed now THX❤️

[coarse gate]

?

[gritty frigate]

what's the last addon in kb that u made ?

714kb right ?

[coarse gate]

The pinned one. Beta 5

[coarse gate]

Ya

[gritty frigate]

ok, In the video I was using an old one probably the one from yesterday.

Or maybe restart did fix with shader compiling by itself cause it's no longer doing it in that spot

and also inventory is fully fixed now awesome!sorry for confusion...

[livid sundial]

Disappointed in the visuals. Looks flat

[grand lagoon]

yes and it didn't help

oh and it was yesterday too

doesnt seem to do it with the new file

[bright coyote]

@coarse gate should it be like that?

top of the screen, it looks like its dirty

it later disapeared and appeared again and again disapeared

[glossy herald]

Good evening everyone!
I'm Brazilian, and it ends up being very difficult to translate all the messages to find what I need.
Can anyone confirm if we have a temporary solution for the broken HDR in this game?
I use a Samsung S90C OLED TV.

[next yoke]

there is this renodx mod already

[coarse gate]

Look like it’s just a dirty lens post process effect

[bright coyote]

i mean it looks like my monitor is dirty 😄

thats weird

[old bloom]

almost looks like rain drops too

[coarse gate]

reminds me of the awful raindrops in dying light 2

[runic sail]

I have the same TV with 2000nit peak mod. Musa's mod mostly fixes it.

[bright coyote]

i tried ur dying light mod with dl2

except colors being bit weird it was ok

[coarse gate]

the beast mod won't work properly with dl2

[bright coyote]

yeah i guess need some changes

[glossy herald]

From what I'm seeing the mod is still in progress for Silent Hill F, should I wait for a solution then?

[bright coyote]

i guess a bit oversaturated

[coarse gate]

It might be fully playable from start to finish now. I suspect we’ve found all the right shaders to edit

[runic sail]

It's still in Beta, so will be improved further, but it's a big improvement over the games HDR which is practically nonexistent. I actually want to get to playing the game rather than tinkering, so I'll just stick with this beta probably

[coarse gate]

I’m gonna upload to nexus mods tonight

[runic sail]

Is that the same as Beta 5?

[coarse gate]

maybe, I'll try and see what else can be done

[bright coyote]

is that fixable what I showed on SS?

[coarse gate]

probably possible to remove with ini edits. the effect is likely in the shaders that sample the lutbuilder which there are an ass load of permutations of

so trying to catch them all is gonna be a nightmare

[runic sail]

Appreciate the work. How the devs released the 'hdr' in this state, I'll never know. Such a shame as the games great. Is HDR really that hard to implement in UE5 or are they just lazy?

I mean, I only needed to reduce the black floor in SH2R. Aside from that, the HDR worked well.

[meager drum]

would not recommend

[bright coyote]

oblivion is much bigger game

[meager drum]

oblivion was pretty close to stock

[bright coyote]

I saw someone finished sh in around 9h

[meager drum]

what matters is how much they messed with the engine, really.

you legit never know with UE games

[runic sail]

It's a little short, yes. 12-14hrs is better.

[whole iron]

anyone has an idea what's causing this ?

[bright coyote]

if I remember someone had that, and it was some dlss thing

[runic sail]

Are you using Optiscaler?

[bright coyote]

enabling motion blur fixed it for him

[whole iron]

nope just the ingame toggler for DLSS

[whole iron]

will try that

[coarse gate]

motion blur off is broken apparently

[bright coyote]

not for AMD

[whole iron]

great news since the motion blur in this game is unbearable

[runic sail]

Ahh. Sometimes that happens in Opti and forcing SRGB output fixes it

[coarse gate]

does oblivion have decent shader precomp

silent hill's misses a lot

I loaded up a save someone sent me and the output shader used was missing

[meager drum]

mostly all precompiled

[coarse gate]

I have a bunch in the repo

[meager drum]

they made something custom and do some secondary loading after game load which kills the CPU for like a full minute

and eject shaders from cache, but i think they precomp at least

[coarse gate]

but these are all the ones that I got after precomp

[meager drum]

do a diff with oblivion and you can get an idea of the variations

[coarse gate]

I'll go ahead and try and get film grain

[nova pewter]

Thanks 💥

[whole iron]

I can confirm it no longer occurs with motion blur enabled
I was playing the game with the setting off, it occurred a few times but nothing to worry about and 7 hours of gametime later it does that like hell

[lyric silo]

Oh so it´s sorta completed already then? 🐐

[coarse gate]

I’ll try and add a film grain slider, though it may not work all the time

[lyric silo]

But the basic HDR functionality is done, no?

I personally don´t need to touch the film grain tbh

[coarse gate]

seems like it, unless someone finds an area that breaks

[runic sail]

Looks good to me. But of course would be better if they were jxr files.

[coarse gate]

its worth noting that in the lutbuilders what I've found is that there is a permutation based on whether its using 0 luts, 1 lut, 2 luts, and whether its using white balance controls

that means 6 permutations

I've found all 6

so that means its possibly all of the permutations

which would mean the hdr functionality is completed

[abstract lance]

The pre-built HDR in this game is horrendous it's like a grey filter

[stuck plume]

yeah, true - basically you always lose something when you decide to fight (best case, just weapon wear), and you gain nothing since enemies don't drop anything like they do in other survival horror games

[coarse gate]

I noticed people are liking the old beta build posts so maybe they’re not seeing the latest

edited the previous posts

[lyric silo]

Awesome, very much appreciated since this game really needs it. And you did it so fast! ❤️

Also, default Reno settings I assume are the closest to SDR there is, right?

[coarse gate]

it has some slight differences from SDR like less hue shifts

I can make a button called match sdr

it will set sdr eotf emuilation to 2.2 per channel, override black clip to off, and scaling to per channel

[lyric silo]

That would be nice! I always prefer to stay as close to the original grading as possible (but with actual good hdr)

[leaden umbra]

Besides the HDR being crap, is the game good?

[prime helm]

Yes. Oh, yes it is.

[leaden umbra]

Awesome

I assume a U+ mod for this game is close

if not already out

[fossil mountain]

Does anyone know why changing the preset from "off" to the others doesn't change anything visually (as in other games)? HDR is enabled in game n monitor too, but no matter what presets I change and what settings I adjust, nothing changes 🙁 Am I doing something wrong?

[meager drum]

read first sentence at top of mod

like in the UI

[fossil mountain]

yeah i see that but i dont get what is journal is. Is there some kind of journal in the game? I'm just at the very beginning of the game and don't know anything yet.

[meager drum]

yeah, i think dpad up or something

basically need to pause the game/trigger a scene change

[fossil mountain]

oh, i see. thank you ill try that.

[meager drum]

new UE games don't recompute some stuff every frame anymore

[fossil mountain]

It's a little inconvenient, but I hope it can be fixed somehow

[frank hollow]

Where is the actual file?

[sullen mulch]

does this game intersperse prerendered video with realtime cutscenes?

curious if that's why there's a 30 fps cap for cutscenes

[coarse laurel]

Pins

[meager drum]

we're modding every shader that computes the LUT, which is essentially how the vanilla game operates (doesn't have any realtime recomputing of variables). for realtime computing of variables we'd have to also modify every shader that samples the internal lut as well, which is more work. it's technically not a feature the game has. just a feature people have come to expect from RenoDX mods

[coarse gate]

also modifying the output shader to get it working in real time wouldn't grant us the ability to switch to the vanilla tonemapper in real time

i still want to have that functionality so people can see the difference on their own

[fossil mountain]

anyway it works and I am grateful for that.

By the way, do I need to enable the HDR black floor fix shader? It seems to me that the black level has become "zero" with it

[frank hollow]

Yes ty I found it by selecting pins

[coarse gate]

i'm already doing what that shader does with the SDR EOTF Emulation slider, I have that defaulting to on in the game

if you want more contrast I would recommend increasing flare to like 30 or so

just keep in mind that the game does have contrast in the near field, its just there's a lot of fog in the distance

you can see hinako's hair is properly black for example

[wide condor]

Question, does anyone know is an Alienware AW3225QF 4k 240hz OLED Monitor, and know if i should use True black or peak 1000 for this?

[fossil mountain]

got it. thanks!

[coarse gate]

most people use peak 1000 mode from what I've seen, I have a samsung g80sd and I prefer the true black 400 mode. It's down to how much the abl bothers you

[wide condor]

Ive heard peak 1000 has issues on that monitor and true black is preferable, but im not nearly an expert enough on HDR to know what to do

Hell i dont even know if i should have both dolby and hdr enabled at the same time

[coarse gate]

I much prefer true black 400, if you look at any bright scene, the automatic brightness limiter will kick in and dim the entire screen in 1000 mode but not in 400 mode

[whole halo]

Musa, is there a way to fix color banding?

[ivory depot]

https://www.patreon.com/posts/silent-hill-f-in-139686549?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=web_share

Framegen!

[coarse gate]

I'll see if I can upgrade some render targets to a higher bit depth

as an option

[wide condor]

Whats this?

[coarse gate]

do you have a save file of an area with lots of banding that I can test

[whole halo]

@coarse gate, the banding was really noticeable in this part of the game. I’ll try and find save file for this part.

[wise rover]

Paid mod by PureDark to enable extra features, like FG and MFG.

You can enable FG from game's ini but it's FSR FG only there.

So, if you want more, gotta pay for that mod.

[valid terrace]

where can I find the files for the Silent Hill F RenoDX? thanks

[sharp vessel]

in the pinned messages

[wide condor]

Does this work with SpecialK and Optiscaler?

Does it also fix the frame gen bug where journal crashes

[wise rover]

Not sure, I don't use PureDark mods. And SK can be finnicky with other mods for me sometiems.

Albeit, works fine for me in this game with RenoDX.

I don't plan on using FG in this game, just gonna do DLSS Quality/DLAA or w/e and lock it to 90fps.

[wise rover]

FG bug as in when you enable FG via ini?

Not sure.

[wide condor]

Yes

[wise rover]

Ah, okay. Not sure, not using FG either way, so.

[left comet]

Can anyone explain what's going on here?

[wise rover]

Try removing all your ReShade shaders, idk which ones you have installed.

The ones I had installed gave some artifacts like that.

But that looks similar to what @sleek turret had yesterday, not sure if she's fixed 'em or nah.

[left comet]

Sorry I should clarify, I've not installed anything yet at all and it's doing this haha

[wise rover]

RIP

[coarse gate]

Is that what a vertex explosion is

People were getting glitches with motion blur off

[left comet]

I dont pretend to know whats going on but 5090, 9800x3d, motion blur off indeed

[wise rover]

Turn it back on.

See if it goes away.

[left comet]

Jokes on me, game crashes immediately lol

[livid sundial]

Reinstall your GPU driver. That will work

[coarse gate]

[livid sundial]

I had an hour of nonsense, crashing, artifacts.

Reinstalled driver, rebooted, game worked fine

Though I think it took two attempts to fire up.

Then I installed Reshade/Renodx

[left comet]

I am not very technical but it seems like the longer you play the worse it gets in terms of the artifacts, same thing on BL4

[livid sundial]

UE5 is shambolic

[whole halo]

Sorry, I can't find access to my save files

[coarse gate]

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Silent_Hill_f

It has the location listed here

[left comet]

Good call gents, it worked. @livid sundial @coarse gate @wise rover

[livid sundial]

What did, turning on motion blur? Or reinstalling driver?

I have motion blur off, without that issue

[left comet]

Reinstalling driver, motion blur didnt do anything unfortunately

[livid sundial]

I wish I knew specifically why that works. I had the same with borderlands 4. Perhaps there are other shaders somewhere I couldn't find, as clearing down DXCache didn't work

[left comet]

Corrupted shaders ? shader cache maxing out due to the weird way these games load in textures ? Just a thought

[livid sundial]

That's what I mean though - I tried clearing down shader cache but to no avail

I even tried DDU's shader clear down option

[noble matrix]

Morning there. Haha. Did they released a day 1 patch already or that's too much to ask for Japanese devs this days?

[placid grail]

guys this is my first time ever using HDR but I lowkey can't see the difference between HDR and SDR

Im I blind

Im running the RenoDX Beta 5 addon and everything

Am I missing a step

Are there any settings I should tweak

[raw bronze]

That's how I feel as well lol

First time hdr user here, trying it out on my new aorus fo32u2p, running at hdr peak 1000 and renodx peak brightness is set the same as my windows hdr calibration of 1080 nits but I can't seem to tell if its working in game or if I have to adjust the in game hdr settings too

[wide condor]

Screen is all greyed as frick.

[placid grail]

I have the fo27q2

Similar monitors

[placid grail]

Apparently peak 1000 is not as good as normal HDR some times

[wide condor]

I clicked reset all wanting to see if that would fix anything and now I literally can't get the default settings back even on reinstall.

[sullen mulch]

the sliders don't change in real time. It's just the way the engine works.

In a game like this, HDR isn't going to smack you in the face and wow you. It's there for when the content can benefit. It's supposed to mostly look like SDR, basically.

[wide condor]

It looks pretty bad tho.

[sullen mulch]

does it look better or the same if you switch to SDR?

[wide condor]

Worse on hdr. not the same.

[sullen mulch]

do you have HDR enabled in windows?

[wide condor]

Yes.

[sullen mulch]

just making sure

can you post a screenshot?

[wide condor]

That won't really do anything because i can't take HDR screenshots.

It will just over expose it or whatever.

[sullen mulch]

is one native hdr and the other renodx?

[wide condor]

No.

Both are renodx.

One is a windows screenshot the other is a steam screenshot.

[sullen mulch]

ah. reshade takes hdr pngs, they'll save to the game folder

print screen by default

[sullen mulch]

I will say that this screenshot looks correct to me

ah I see, that does look raised on your end.

hard to tell if it's the photo at fault or not

sometimes windows hdr bugs out depending on the hdr api used (to keep it short). If you haven't tried rebooting yet, you should.

just because of the nature of the content in question combined with you being new to HDR, it's kinda hard to tell what the problem could be.

idk if you're seeing the correct image and simply don't like it or if something is wrong

but, if looking at it with windows staying in HDR mode and toggling HDR on/off in-game causes you to think that SDR looks better, there's probably a real problem occuring

[bright coyote]

reshade has option to take HDR screenshot, just press prnt scrn

[still stag]

where can i download mod

[waxen trout]

It's in the pinned message

[still stag]

gotcha thnx a lot

[woven musk]

A game not having every upscaling and FG option in anno domini 2000+20+5 on a UE5 titles no less

[noble matrix]

Also if using DLSS?

There is a PureDark mod already. I was considering using some sort of FG, but it's getting cold here so I might just use the extra power draw to heat the room a bit haha.

[bright coyote]

and? relaying on upscaling and framegen to be able to play comfortable is retarded

[shadow flint]

Hey guys, anyone else having problems getting Reno to work? I have done everything correctly. HDR in game on, Windows HDR on. When I press the HOME button it pops up and I see the RENO tab but none of the effects work 🙁

[bright coyote]

read pinned comment

it doesn't change in real time

[dim furnace]

tons of banding in the fog here

worst directly above in the sky

[bright coyote]

https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthillf/mods/50

already mod that unlocks fsr4 and intel xess

[valid terrace]

I've installed the RenoDX files and I can see the config screen via Reshade in-game, but when I change the values, it makes no difference to the image at all, even setting values to the max and min, there's no difference. Is this a known issue?

[next yoke]

it doesn't change in real time

[shadow flint]

just open the journal and close it after choosing your values

worked for me

thought i did something wrong

[waxen trout]

Does it need a mod for FSR4?

[frozen osprey]

In shf hdr 1000 is fine, killed 2nd boss with your latest addon64 and so far so good. For brighter games i just use service moded g80sd (active tonemaping hack) to achieve tb 400 brightness with hdr 1000 highlights. Yeah, there are some inaccuracies, but in games like horizon they are hardly noticeable

[worldly willow]

Anno Deeznuts 25

[coarse gate]

film grain looks fine if you just force FilmGrainIntensityMidtones and FilmGrainIntensityHighlights to 0

no reason to even have those

[coarse gate]

haven't actually properly played the game yet but from what I'm seeing the grain is only used in the main menu

gonna add a custom grain slider that forces it to 0 and adds shortfuse's grain instead

[bright coyote]

is it gonna be on by default?

[brave dawn]

finished my first playthrough, looked great on LG C4

thanks again for the mod, i hate that i have to mod proper hdr into games but im glad there is a mod in the first place

[coarse gate]

default is just gonna be vanilla grain

if you want no grain at all you can just select custom and then set strength to 0

[bright coyote]

okay then

how about fixing that thing I showed on screen?

[waxen trout]

This is what I noticed as well.

[coarse gate]

can't reliably do it because the game has so many permutations of that shader

that aren't all loaded in the shader precomp

so if you go into a new area it just comes back again

no way I'm gonna sit through the entire game and fix it for the whole thing

[bright coyote]

actually this wasn't new area

[coarse gate]

what I'm saying is that the shader used

has many variations

cause its part of a larger shader

[bright coyote]

ok

[coarse gate]

it's controlled by a cbuffer

so I'm thinking maybe ultra+ guys will have the ability to add a setting for it

[bright coyote]

how long did it take u?

[brave dawn]

hard difficulty, in-game save timer says 9 hours but steam says 22

in reality probably around 15-17 hours

[bright coyote]

im at school, after around 5h

but i basically has 0 heal

hard game

[livid sundial]

Yeah the fog banding is bad

[frozen osprey]

Fog bands as hell, ultra plus probably will handle it in future

[lyric silo]

Kinda a given that so much fog is gonna artifact in some way

[meager drum]

Considering the unreal engine mod breaks stuff that never breaks UE when you upgrade 10bit textures, it's possible part of the render (fog?) is in 10bit (not a UE thing). Big oof, if true.