Unity Engine

[void hollow]

ok yeah tried like 10 combos of upgrades with no success so lemme try devkit

black screen with upgrades to any size

[main wharf]

Nah upgrades won't help. Brb in a few mins

[main wharf]

Here you go. Hopefully I didn't bork anything

[void hollow]

bit of texture wonk but cant remember if that's in the game without mod

[main wharf]

Make sure you didn't leave some upgrades accidentally on.
Reset buttons for all sliders should only leave RGBA8_typeless to Output Size

[void hollow]

ok yeah it is

[void hollow]

yeah did that

game weirdness i guess

[main wharf]

As in, that's in game?

Noice

Well

Glad it isn't addon

[void hollow]

seems to work fine, thanks

[main wharf]

Maybe increase Clipping a bit? Highlights seem stronk.
Default value can be a bit low in games that get decently bright.

10 or 20 should have smoother highlights

Is up to you tho, hf

[void hollow]

yeah seems like 20 does the job

[ornate wave]

Sup guys , this game is telling me that output shader is missing but unlike reno UE i cannot find the option to dump the shaders and post it here so if anyone can help me pls?

if i put lut shaper to PQ it looks like this

on vanilla is clamped

[still flare]

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[ornate wave]

thanks sir

here, the dumped shaders for winter burrow

[kind kernel]

dump for bratz rhythm and style (on game pass); missing output shader

[main wharf]

Here.
Also added one shader from Winter Burrow dump @ornate wave

[lapis schooner]

@main wharf here's the complete dump, played whole game, dont think i missed anything afaik

[main wharf]

Thanks, tho is game ever clamped to SDR..?

I guess I'll check dump when I get home

[lapis schooner]

not really tried it with the unity engine addon

[main wharf]

Aaaaw right, yea I think the only one shader is already in addon

Afaik anyway

[ornate wave]

ty boss 😄

[lapis schooner]

btw the game doesn't really have a good black floor cause they seem to have chosen blue rather than black for the black bars, so i assume HDR is making it look far worse but i'm sure something can be done to make it look more normal (closer to sdr reference)

[cursive plaza]

Is the standalone mod for Shinobi still recommended or should I be using Unity mod?

Shinobi mod is very crashy for me.

It looks good though, just unsure how much dynamic range is really added since game is so bright with the mod. Not taking Paper White over 100 seems like a must.

[haughty dock]

It’s a bit of a weird mod. Some things unclamp, other things don’t, so it’s kind of balanced out by using some ITM on the SDR parts. Unity mod won’t work the same with it.

[main wharf]

Has fake HDR boost now, but yea would need REST + ReShade FX to replicate standalone mod with selective ITM

[rustic wharf]

yea my shinobi mod has a weird blend between itm and real hdr, to specifically boost sprites that are stuck at sdr level brightness

@main wharf you could copy it if you want for 2d sprite games (even though it's really expensive and weird code lol)

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/src/games/shinobiaov/common.hlsl#L44

[rustic wharf]

maybe try reshade 6.5.1 instead of latest

and it should only be overbright in the opening level (you can also decrease or disable sprite boost)

[main wharf]

I'm pretty sure I mentionned back then that imo this could be beneficial to have as ReShade.fx to use "universally" with REST

[rustic wharf]

wouldn't that mean that you need to select all shaders with sprites in rest? and then boost them with reshade fx

I doubt that would be really stable

[main wharf]

Pretty much yea, something like that

[main wharf]

Why's that? Apart from dx12, REST's pretty stable

[rustic wharf]

idk REST was always really crashy for me

maybe I just tested dx12 games

[main wharf]

Yea that is likely.
It is pretty solid in most dx11 games. Comes with slight perf impact but shouldn't be an issue in 2d sprites games

Even in dx12 it can work well. Afaik most crashes there happen when cycling through shaders, and I know a trick to avoid these.
Been a while but it's basically to use third tab instead of first one...

Bindings or something... Will check when home

[dense thorn]

the few times ive tried REST i had issues as well with crashing

[main wharf]

-# skill issue

[dense thorn]

[cursive plaza]

Shinobi is DX11

[cursive plaza]

The first level was crazy bright but even in other levels 100 paper nits looks correct to me. Dark room.

UI looks better a little brighter, maybe 130 or something. The character portraits are too dim at 100.

[cursive plaza]

This works but then no more display commander...

[woven parrot]

Hey, I'm hoping this is the right place to come to regarding unity issues/lut dumps
I'm trying to get Thief Simulator 1 working but it's looking like this, I already tried pretty much all the options in the upgrades section
I would also upload a lut dump but I'm not sure how as I haven't seen any option regarding that

[kind kernel]

#1413695723404398674 message

[woven parrot]

dump for Thief Simulator

[main wharf]

Any warning in addon?

[woven parrot]

nope

[main wharf]

Aw yea, addon wouldn't find this out.
Basically Unity's post-processing shaders (lutbuilder, uber) are already in addon, but game seems to also use some SDR LUT plugin, I think. Sampling input isn't clamped, which would explain the artifacting on highlights.
Try this, maybe.

[woven parrot]

It's definitely better now but bloom is broken (way too strong and flickers) and it's still artifacting blue in menus and the artifacts are way less in actual 3d environments but still there and now black

[main wharf]

I'll have another look tonight, without ReShade.log or eyes on the game I'm pretty much only guessing.
Bloom probably just need input clamping, this I should be able to check.
Remaining artifacts I'm not sure, hopefully is also bloom.

[woven parrot]

I've disabled bloom because I couldn't see anything with it on and here's the log

[desert herald]

your link should be https://

[desert herald]

Wobbly Life = rgab16f => rgba8u Custom/SimpleLUT. not really doing very Unity like, but it is Unity, so might as well drop it in

[sour drum]

Hi, Pummel Party is missing output shader (screenshot with PQ LUT shaper).

[fiery vapor]

hey Signalis almost works with renoDX unity but it uses a more complicated setup for shaders, so the game is still capped at 203 nits
I might dump the shaders here if you want to take a look at them

[main wharf]

Yeaaa, post-processing shaders aren't even an issue here.
Afaik resources upgrades break some reflections and such in a few places, and game using only a very few resources makes it hard to only upgrade what's needed.

[fiery vapor]

the noise and grain shader has a saturate, and removing those saturates did do something

[main wharf]

Yea not saying it wouldn't.
Game would still be clamped unless resources are upgraded, and resources upgrades break some other parts of the game.

[fiery vapor]

hmm

I do know that the inventory issue is fixed by only using output size

[main wharf]

A dedicated mod was being worked on at some point, I even tried to help a bit but things seemed very tricky

[crude flower]

Here are shaders for Once Upon A Katamari. Not sure how much HDR can be gotten out of this game but I saw some clipped highlights at least

[twin wharf]

Wish they'd release that game on PC 😕 It's Steam exclusive for now.

[main wharf]

Try this maybe.
Also added one shader from OnceUponAKatamari @crude flower

[crude flower]

Very nice thanks, works in the levels now when DoF is disabled. The level select sections are still limited to SDR, I wonder if it's cause of the bloom shader applied there?

[desert herald]

Wobbly Life has a very custom using lut on render and lut on final draw with the same shader, needs something custom

it's like hades2, essentially

i started a custom mod for it anyway

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-solutions-dave-chapelle-gif-13450651

[main wharf]

Uhm yea could be a couple things.
Basically if the "missing output shader" warning shows up when limited to SDR, you'll want to run devkit's autodump again while triggering the warning so the right shader is dumped.
I only found one in previous dump, most likely is that there are a couple others.

[main wharf]

I have what's needed to handle this I think, but yea shader looked unusual so I left it for later.

I would use draw count (based on previous frame) to do TonemapPass and RenderIntermediatePass in first draw, then InvertIntermediatePass at beginning and RenderIntermediatePass again at end of second draw.

I guess you don't need previous frame if game is fixed to 2 draws for that shader

[desert herald]

it's variable, sometimes 1 and sometimes 2

also does fxaa, i think

or some sharpening

[main wharf]

Ooooh that's what t0 multi sampling is, I got confused 😄

[desert herald]

i just need to remember how inverseinterrmeditepass words. i think it returns linear

[main wharf]

Yea afaik input is variable, output is linear

That's how mine works and I copy pasta'd from draw.hlsl

[desert herald]

game is completely clipped, so makes things weirder

i'll share when i'm done so you can see the nonsense i had to do

for now trying to get ui scaling working with SDR, then figure out a hdr lut sampling that doesn't creating banding (max-channel isn't enough and this game is so bright you'll notice it)

hades2 was max channel but a pretty dark game

before / after

now for cleanup

gamut compression is to preserve any custom saturation from the first pass

[crude flower]

Yeah, I've been looking out for that. Sadly no warning appears again even when limited to SDR.

In-game it's HDR

[void hollow]

skate story, i hope it dumped correctly but yeah lotta effects and shaders

[main wharf]

I thought I added this game's shaders already. Maybe gotta update addon?

[main wharf]

Aw, been quite a bit since I pushed to github/snapshot, so maybe try this

[void hollow]

ah yeah was using snapshot addon

[main wharf]

Sorry for that, I'll try to update snapshot within next days

[cobalt wolf]

@manic gale In the new version of Zenless Zone Zero, the brightness setting doesn't seem to take effect; only the UI brightness can be adjusted.

[manic gale]

you didn't have to tag me twice, you know.

but i'm sorry to tell you, i no longer play ZZZ, and no longer work on the mod, so it's up to the community now to fix it.

@full palm was doing it for the previous patches but i think he also quit recently so...

I don't know who is interested on maintaining this mod currently, sorry, the only thing i can tell you, is that I'm probably not going to fix it myself.

[kind kernel]

i'm giving it a go 👍🏻

[full palm]

🫡

[kind kernel]

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[cobalt wolf]

@kind kernel thanks

[sour drum]

Thanks, this works partially. Some minigames/maps are missing shaders still, guess there's a lot of them. Maybe I'll dump them when I have the time

Now the textures don't turn black when shaders are missing, the game just goes into acid trip mode

But when it works, it looks great. The game is using a lot of p3/2020, like 20-60%

[lime geyser]

dump from Hell Clock

[desert herald]

links have to be https...

you can't open the links on web

also can't copy links in discord either

Snapshot:

• 64-bit
• 32-bit

[main wharf]

Woops I forgot, just edited

Thanks

[desert herald]

Peglin is all on UI slider, but probably nothing really to separate

[graceful wasp]

how can i test whether this mod works with peak, lilium shaders right

[rocky dawn]

ive had good success with lilium__hdr_and_sdr_analysis.fx

[graceful wasp]

I think everything works fine in dx11 peak

with this mod

let me send a ss with lilium analysis open

[main wharf]

Not surprising at all. Someone sent a shaders dump back then and all required ones were already in addon.

The only issue was crash on launch, which is specific to dx12 (or d3d11on12) for this game.

Iirc crash was briefly investigated by @crimson spear, without any luck.

[jolly dagger]

Has anyone else tried New Super Lucky's Tale with this mod? I did what the github wiki says but everything looks weirdly blown-out and desaturated

[main wharf]

Any warning in addon?
Note that Swapchain Proxy and other Resources Upgrades sliders need a game restart to take effect.

[jolly dagger]

No warning but what’s even weirder that it looks fine in cutscenes and menus but when I go to the actual gameplay, it does what I described

Huh, it fixed itself after the first proper level lol

Nope, it broke again when you load into a level 💀

How bizarre

[fiery vapor]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3420190/ODDCORE_DEMO/
new game to try

Steam

ODDCORE DEMO

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backrooms arena shooter

think serious sam

mix turbo overkill?

[last nexus]

@crimson spear @main wharf hmm which mod is the best for outer wilds ? idk if you updated it since then ritsu or if the unity universal takes precedence

or can I remove your mod from the list ritsu ?

[crimson spear]

If unity universal works, then remove mine

[vapid pulsar]

I do not remember the process of providing the files for a game of what is required. I was going to play a game called Stasis: Bone Totem. All the settings are default. The nit is stuck on 1000 and if I mess with the UI brightness or stuff like exposure it will mess up like crazy.

Wiki says it is a Unity 2019 / DX11 64bit. HDR is listed as unknown but the wording in game says "HDR effects OFF/ON"

Forgot to put a vanilla screenshot

[kind kernel]

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[vapid pulsar]

I think I did it right (hopefully)

I suppose that message could get pinned for future references.

[vapid pulsar]

Random in-game screenshot at the start too. I forgot to include as well. The lighting just seems really dim.

[woven crag]

it's a dim scene but that highlight looks good. have you tried fake hdr boost?

though I really don't see the issue. that first screenshot with the halogen lights looks perfect, and this last one looks completely ok to me too

[main wharf]

[main wharf]

Seems to work out of the box

[main wharf]

What's the issue here? The only interesting shader I find at a glance is already in addon.
Uhm, I see ReShade2.ini in log, could game be using exclusive fullscreen mode? If so please switch to borderless, or windowed (with RenoDX's force borderless option). Delete ReShade2.ini then.

[last nexus]

anyone knows if blasphemous works ?

[haughty dock]

does it have any lighting?

[last nexus]

idk man i can reno 3000 nits bread & fred from that point I'll think anything can be native hdr with voosh magic

[haughty dock]

from playing it it seemed like straight up sprites

[last nexus]

idk man i can play nine sols with native 3000 nits hdr from that point i'll think anything can be native hdr with voosh magic

[torn rose]

Gunner, HEAT, PC!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1705180/Gunner_HEAT_PC/

Steam

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Price

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Recommendations

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Similar bug to Hellish Quart with broken terrain 🙁

[inland dew]

have you been able to revisit this Mr voosh?

[main wharf]

Not yet, been and still am really busy with other stuff

[inland dew]

np. ty!

[fiery vapor]

Signalis & CloverPit:

[vapid pulsar]

I tried and it seems to widen lines like beams out instead of just making them brighter. I was asking because messing with some of the settings made the lighting go haywire. The slightest adjustment messed up the lights.

I don't know if that is a normal effect but this is what 0 / 50 / 100 fakeHDR boost looks like. I suppose bloom is messing it up since the game seems to handle bloom poorly. If I turn it off completely it works nice.

However, this is what fakehdr boost does to the menu. 50 / 100

[sullen galleon]

peak has launch options for backend renderer now, works without any config needed in dx11 mode 🐐

[dense thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[remote edge]

did anyone tested the game sworn with renodx ?

[kind kernel]

Works out of the box if I remember correctly

upgrade rg11b10 float for wcg

[remote edge]

thx i'll try

[vivid jacinth]

Hello ! just FYI, Sektori (32 bits) needs Upgrade R11G11B10_FLOAT, but it's not set automatically :)

[remote edge]

@kind kernel as you said work perfectly !

[hoary sluice]

Hello. Pathologic 3 seems to be capped at 203 nits in gameplay even with all upgrades and proxy. Main menu seems to be slightly uncapped (goes to 209), but in renodx-dev in preview window (before applying postprocessing) it still seems to be brighter. Here are the shaders (just played for 10 minutes in the beginning of the game with Auto Dump)

[cyan shadow]

Tried to play 7th Sector in HDR: a DirectX 9 32-bit Unity game, but it doesn't work. No peak brightness setting is available and not one setting or upgrade seems to do anything. Guess it's a tricky one considering it's DX9 roots?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/749250/7th_Sector/

Steam

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Made a dump + log. 🙂

[lapis schooner]

@main wharf Firewatch (Game Pass) dump (45mins played ish), this game acts weird, doesn't seem very HDR, and turning UI brightness up makes the whole image dimmer, turning it down makes it brighter

[haughty dock]

dx9 isn't going to work probably ever with the generic addon

[crimson spear]

@main wharf Pathologic has a new type of lutbuilder. It's ACES but with two paths

[crimson spear]

Adjusted, please check

[crimson spear]

Pathologic 3 lutbuilder added, only tested menu

Not sure if it's latest codebase

[main wharf]

Noice will check when I get home.

[remote edge]

@kind kernel hello i've played a bit with reno and i don't understand why but with certain UI the game oversaturate the image like here

@main wharf Hello Dio said to message you about this problem

[hoary sluice]

Seems to work during gameplay. Thank you very much!

But seems to be limited to bt.709 even with needed upgrade. But idk if its a problem

[hoary sluice]

Also menus atop of highlights seem to cause dithering-like noise

[main wharf]

Funky one. I think the first tonemapper with a bunch of if/else is the "full version" of ACES, seems same as Tainted Grail.
The end though is unusual, there's a path with RRT followed by... something that is not Unity's ODT approximation stuff

[crimson spear]

Fixed

@main wharf Could you push latest changes to git so I can PR?

[hoary sluice]

Yep, noise is gone, thanks! Still limited to bt.709, but it isnt really an issue

[main wharf]

Yea I'll try, if not tonight then tomorrow.
Just gotta finish going through latest dumps in thread

[main wharf]

Oooooh yea, Swapchain Encoding should be set to Gamma. Will update wiki

[random berry]

Hello @main wharf your github url is getting flagged by antivirus and malware addons (through renodx github mods page) Can this be addressed?. Thank you in advance.

[main wharf]

Unity's addon? Apart from a few exceptions like this one and Guild Wars 2 addon, all other links should be main repo (Shortfuse's).

Tho I don't know if I can do anything. Nexus Mods also flags some builds and not others when code is the same, not sure what triggers this, seems random like some weird AI stuff (Nexus uses VirusTotal website).

100% false positive anyway, code is available and you can build addons yourself.

What's your AV?

[random berry]

Bitdefender

and yes Unity's Addons...for Unreal Engine I do not see the antivirus flagging them

[main wharf]

Just pushed

[main wharf]

Added a couple shaders from this! Give Github an hour or so to build updated snapshot.

[main wharf]

Same here, try new snapshot in an hour or so. Hopefully Bloom should behave 🙏

[jolly dagger]

I'll give this another go! cheers m8

[jolly dagger]

Nope, still blown out/desaturated for me 😭

[main wharf]

Mmmh.
Try to update snapshot please

[crimson spear]

https://github.com/NotVoosh/renodx-unity/pull/1

[vapid pulsar]

I just downloaded it and this is the menu with fake boost at 50 / 100. It seems less but now has this chromatic effect. In-game looked about the same with or without bloom on with lasers (blue laser picture above).

Don't worry about the game, I might be dropping it

But if you need to fix for future people then I can keep checking the game changes.

I think this game just handles bloom poorly but everything else looks good though.

[jolly dagger]

Will try the new one

[jolly dagger]

New one works perfectly now, thanks!

[jolly dagger]

Actually, works fine once you load into a level but when you finish the level it immediately goes back to linear encoding lol :/

[main wharf]

Woops

Yea I need to fix some of that stuff

[main wharf]

Checked current snapshot on VT just out of curiosity, doesn't seem to raise any flag.
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/4bf3db2c7f3ac94071db0e99e201003aba3e97efdc419f9e8a9f3e7ea4971482

Hopefully it was an isolated case with previous snapshot, had been a while since I updated it

[main wharf]

Yea I missed a shader, sorry for that. This should be good (I couldn't test it myself) 🙏

[lapis schooner]

will provide a larger dump in next few days

[main wharf]

Can't find much in this either. Blit Copy shader is there, so Hack may work to separate UI. 🤷

[jolly dagger]

Works great now, cheers

[quick robin]

does it?

over no rest for the wicked it looks like shit

the unity engine reno is like washed out

[woven crag]

"Nice day for fishing" works fine with RGBA8 typeless set to any size if you wanna add to the list

(btw why do some games need the any size setting while most work fine with output default?)

[main wharf]

Game's native HDR should be disabled with this addon. That said I don't think I was ever provided a dump for this, and iirc there was at least one missing shader.

[woven crag]

what's wrong with native hdr?

[proven flicker]

I'm using this mod in Tainted Grail, but because the lighting in the game is so bad it just looks a bit too dark in caves etc

Perhaps a dumb question but what are the best settings to adjust? Just bump up Shadows slightly? Or play with contrast?

Turning off gamma correction pushes it too far the other way and everything is grey, so it only needs a minor tweak

[woven crag]

yeah tainted grail lighting is quite... undercooked? keep gamma correction and play with the shadow slider sounds like a good idea to me too

[proven flicker]

Thanks

Yeah I'm having a blast with the game but the lighting is generally like a throwback to the 90s

[woven crag]

and not in a good way

[proven flicker]

Hah. Bloody loved the 90s

[woven crag]

weren't 90s games more stuck in 2D shouldn't we say 00s?

[proven flicker]

Ah yeah I've over exaggerated

My sleep deprived mind (1 year old daughter...) struggles to distinguish between those two decades!

Jokes aside, the lighting reminds me of the first Deus Ex

[woven crag]

the game mostly reminded me of Oblivion

[main wharf]

I can think of a couple things. Mainly unusual internal LUT size, so baseline resource upgrade (hardcoded 1024x32 size, can't be disabled) doesn't work. For example 256x16 LUT, in which case Any Size upgrade would catch it.
Else could be that game renders at a fixed ratio that is different from window's/monitor's, for example letter or pillar-boxing. So unlike resolution scaling where ratio is preserved so Output Ratio upgrade works, this needs Any Size due to ratio being different.

[main wharf]

Use a torch..? 😅

[quick robin]

Is like greyish

Or washed colors

Hdr in game was disable

Dxgi needs to be renamed to d3d11. Dll to avoid the game form crashing

[quick robin]

I just like reno more than any in game hdr

[quick robin]

meh

[quick robin]

Anyway the dude above was right the hdr in this game seems ok

[covert zephyr]

7 days to die shows a green check on games list but when I tested it there is a bug when you get hit/damaged with on screen blood fx that causes some weird mismatched brithness issue on parts of the screen. Anyone know how I could go about fixing that? Wish I could just turn off or remove the blood fx but not sure how to mod that game

Image showing what I mean, sorry if this isn't the place to ask for help with this

[kind kernel]

dump of the blood shader for the above post @main wharf it’s from when I made my own 7dtd mod but I doubt that shader has changed at all over the last 6 months

[fiery vapor]

actually gonna try this

was gonna say "hey I guess saturate works" but then I saw this

[fiery vapor]

idk what wacky shit swifter does in their maps but their shaders definitely don't like having the swapchain upgraded

[vocal kayak]

Hey there! Anyone playing Tainted Grail: Fall of Avalon here?
Do you have some good settings to start with?

[ebon stream]

played it couple months back, defaults were good. adjust to your own liking

[fiery vapor]

in Beat Saber, it seems when removing the saturate from this shader, the bloom is able to go a lot brighter

might be a 1.40.8 only thing tho

[pale bloom]

@main wharf in LIS BTS I encounter something strange, at first some chapters were locked at 202 nits, but loading different chapters and going back again , unlock it,
Strange can't reproduce it after restart

I think I figure it out

Playing chapter which already has nits unlocked, trigger the others to unlock it too.

Main menu was also locked to 202 nits before

[main wharf]

Ooooh. I'll try to figure that out, thanks this should be helpful.
Resources upgrades shenanigans

[main wharf]

It is the place, thanks for report.
Will look into it when I get the chance

[main wharf]

Ooooh, did you share dedicated mod already?
Maybe I can add it to wiki and remove game from Unity addon list

[pale bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcJ6ljzo9E

[kind kernel]

It was my first mod so pretty scuffed; probably better to keep as part of the universal addon. I believe just that blood shader just needs patching to prevent clamping to SDR when taking damage

[woven crag]

has anyone tested arknights endfield?

[kind kernel]

https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1440801914165002322/1440801914165002322

[main wharf]

Yea just use dedicated mod I think
No idea if unity addon works, but if it does it would also be dx11 and not vulkan

[woven crag]

oh damn i didn't know we were so ahead of the curve on this one, nice

[main wharf]

Tried it on mobile and got bored pretty fast 🤷

[woven crag]

I get you. Getting trough these games can really be a slog. They all do main story the same way and if you did one it's like doing it all over again.

Bunch of yapping and time wasting for 2 minutes, walk around the corner, kill 5 mobs, yap again, repeat, then back to the factory stuff, the constant tutorial popups, mind numbing combat of just holding a button and qtes while grinding trough the linear story rinse and repeating the yapping/walking/fighting/tutorials over and over again.

It's like you're not even playing the game. The game is playing you.

The modded HDR is really beautiful and I really like the idea of copying over some of the death stranding mechanics and reinventing the gear grind (not a fan of the factorio stuff but it's a welcome novelty), but these games have a fundamental problem of being a mobile slop the way they dont really let you play the game but it actually plays you. You can't really go explore on your own even tho it's open world and such, you must do this mind numbing story and events first or you'll fall behind event rewards and such. It's really tiring. And if you played any gacha like this before, this gets to you pretty quickly.

[fiery vapor]

decided to see what ultrakill in HDR is like

it uses gamma swapchain encoding but currently brightness is affected by UI brightness

[fiery vapor]

should I dump all or selectively dump?

actually I might do both

and here's a shader that I think would be interesting to take a look at
it handles game rendering

ULTRAKILL/PostProcessV2

oh yeah I should actually redo the dump but with Reflections

[fiery vapor]

okay there's more shaders that appear when playing the game, but I want to wait until #🧪lab message

[fiery vapor]

this is a sorted version of the shaders that I dumped while I was in sandbox

and yes believe it or not there is HDR information to extract from ULTRAKILL

oops I forgot to turn off dithering

health and dash bars seem to break

yeah it seems that the hud tends to break a little bit the more you kill

the blood is also black instead of red... 🤔

I forgot to test swapchain proxy
ok nvm swapchain proxy made no difference

[fiery vapor]

ah, they break once you take damage

[fiery vapor]

what's strange is that in T0 for 0x20133A8B, the hud and blood look normal

[main wharf]

Devkit previews sometimes confuse me aswell. Not 100% sure how it works on paper, but if one resource is used multiple times it can't show its every draw like RenderDoc/Pix would. I guess it either displays resource's earliest draw or latest. 🤷

After a thought it's probably latest draw since it's live preview (?). Dunno

[fiery vapor]

ok so it has something to do with transparency

at least for the UI

but honestly it could just be the render

okay, I'm looking through renodx source

started off with doing this

and it fixes the HUD and blood issue

but now the image is darker

okay, I guess I can use Linear now instead of gamma

[fiery vapor]

comparison

these might actually just be flat textures lol

[storm vapor]

just wanted to say using symlink for reno is such a genius idea. thank you!

you can probably also make a GUI using python or autohotkey to make it more accessible

[storm vapor]

on another note, here is the dump for No Rest for the Wicked

[main wharf]

  r0.xyz = r0.xyz / r0.www;
+ float3 signs = sign(r0.xyz);
+ r0.xyz = abs(r0.xyz);
  r0.xyz = log2(r0.xyz);
  r0.w = -cb0[6].w * 0.5 + 1;
  r0.w = r0.w + r0.w;
  r0.w = max(0.00999999978, r0.w);
  r0.xyz = r0.www * r0.xyz;
  o0.xyz = exp2(r0.xyz);
+ o0.xyz *= signs;

Though I'm unsure where negative values come from in the first place 😒

[fiery vapor]

meanwhile I just changed o0.xyz = exp2(r0.xyz) to o0.rgb = r3.xyz

[fiery vapor]

oh yeah I don't think I'm able to do this with live shader loading

I think for now I'll just use the modification to the shader I did until it's added to renodx unity

[fiery vapor]

ULTRAKILL does actually benefit pretty well from HDR

oh yeah turns out the fake sky in Limbo caps itself at 203 nits 😎
which is perfect because it adds to the fakeness of it

[main wharf]

It should ? I made sure not to use any function from renodx library so you can live load without any hassle

[fiery vapor]

lemme try again

I might've added the new code incorrectly

oh yeah that works

only thing left to do is make the brightness get handled by game brightness instead of UI brightness

[fiery vapor]

blue hookpoints will need to have their hue corrected as they have a tint of green in HDR
I think there was a guide on the renodx git about this somewhere

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Hue-Correction

this is the shader for the hookshot inside

green, blue and yellow hookshot both use the same shader so...

[main wharf]

Could it come from this?
The black artifacts can also be removed by clipping negative values, for example:

  r0.xyz = r0.xyz / r0.www;
+ r0.xyz = max(0.f, r0.xyz);
  r0.xyz = log2(r0.xyz);
  r0.w = -cb0[6].w * 0.5 + 1;
  r0.w = r0.w + r0.w;
  r0.w = max(0.00999999978, r0.w);
  r0.xyz = r0.www * r0.xyz;
  o0.xyz = exp2(r0.xyz);

[fiery vapor]

well, the code you sent me did end up working

[main wharf]

Yea but does it make sense. It may be overkill to preserve negative values (WCG) if these values are just non-sense

[fiery vapor]

I'll give it a shot

[main wharf]

I'm not sure it would be able to do stuff like this to be honest. Maybe... Better to check just in case before you keep modifying stuff, weird colors could be side effect of preserving non-sensical negative values

[fiery vapor]

also what do you do about effects that are "bright" in SDR but are paper white in HDR?

(like the muzzle flash sprite)

like, the muzzle flash light translates perfectly to HDR, but the muzzle flash sprite looks like it's paper white brightness

[crimson spear]

Find the shader and hit it with that intermediate scaling

[fiery vapor]

interesting...
can this be done with live shader loading?

[crimson spear]

Or ig it's safer to autoHDR it

[crimson spear]

Yeah of course. Just keep in mind you'll need to add it to the mod if you want to use shared.h cbuffers

If you just load a shader through devkit and attempt to use cbuffers on it you'll get undefined results (NaN colors or something)

[glacial plank]

I just use highlights() on it

that's what I did for the sky in dying light

and made a toggle for it

I like to keep all the extra enhancements as toggles under an advanced section

but I guess with a universal mod you might not wanna do that

[fiery vapor]

ah if only there was a version of the compiled mod that would exposure said cbuffers for testing 😔

[fiery vapor]

actually, can intermediate scaling be combined with saturate? a while ago I was trying to fix the rocket flames on Audiosurf 2 but using saturate would make said flames capped to SDR, even if it fixed the colours

[crimson spear]

You mean capped to SDR?

[fiery vapor]

oops my bad

[crimson spear]

It's just code, you can combine anything

But saturate clamps everything to 0 - 1 so it'll be just SDR

I think Musa's Highlights() is the best solution

[fiery vapor]

ah, can highlights be used with live hlsl shaders?

[crimson spear]

Ah lemme check

Yes

mb

[fiery vapor]

here's the muzzle flash shader btw

[fiery vapor]

lets goo

[crimson spear]

Just to clarify, you can use cbuffers in any shader

Just make sure to add it to the addon first. Renodx only injects cbuffers to shaders it modifies

After you add it to the addon, you can use it in devkit's live reload

[fiery vapor]

ah

hold on lemme also dump the UI shaders

[crimson spear]

Why would you?

[fiery vapor]

to give to voosh?

[crimson spear]

I don't think he needs UI shaders. RenderIntermediatePass - SwapchainPass already handle them

[fiery vapor]

ah

[fiery vapor]

yeah that one works too

[fiery vapor]

ok so now it returns under water

ah underwater is another rendering shader?

[fiery vapor]

it can be solved with the same method as the other shader

(this one has the fixed negative values)

[fiery vapor]

@mighty falcon oh yeah turns out that the effect might be easier to create than we thought

[fiery vapor]

ok so the muzzle flash uses the Sprites/Default shader

[desert herald]

Road 96 has its main menu clipped, but I'll probably make a custom mod for it.

(The OST has a bunch of synthwave big hitters, so I bought it.)

[fiery vapor]

so how do I use highlights()?

[glacial plank]

  color.r = renodx::color::grade::Highlights(color.r, highlight_value);
  color.g = renodx::color::grade::Highlights(color.g, highlight_value);
  color.b = renodx::color::grade::Highlights(color.b, highlight_value);

probably better to do it by luminance

[fiery vapor]

and how do I do that?

I feel like an rpg main character asking this lol

[glacial plank]

  float y_in = renodx::color::y::from::BT709(color);
  float y_out = renodx::color::grade::Highlights(y_in, highlight_value);
  color = renodx::color::correct::Luminance(color, y_in, y_out);

[fiery vapor]

wait, where do I put this in the hlsl?

[glacial plank]

just on the final color in the shader that draws that sprite

[fiery vapor]

hold on lemme compile a version with the unmodified shader

[main wharf]

Aye, either way! Might not be too much work to add support here

[sour drum]

Another dump for Pummel Party, should be complete now (~500 extra shaders, was a nightmare to dump tbh)

[storm vapor]

Hi @/Voosh, were you able to add No Rest for the Wicked's dump?

[main wharf]

Not yet, will keep you posted. Latest on Monday/Tuesday when I'm off work, maybe earlier if I get the chance.

[fiery vapor]

wait now I gotta figure out how to do this

[crimson spear]

renodx::mods::shader::CustomShaders custom_shaders = {__ALL_CUSTOM_SHADERS};

[fiery vapor]

ah

yeah I guess unity addon already does that

[fiery vapor]

I still have no idea where to put the code that musa sent tho

[fiery vapor]

@glacial plank I don't see a final colour?

I don't think this is right

oh god it's only for hlsli isn't it

[crimson spear]

hlsli is hlsl. i indicates it's meant to be imported and not used directly

[glacial plank]

o0.rgb is the color

[fiery vapor]

uhhh
so while trying to figure out how that worked

turns out removing the o0.w made the muzzle flash bright again
wait it only makes it as bright as the rest of the screen

...
oops

[fiery vapor]

oh also, do I need to add an ⁨#include⁩ to the shader?

oh wait, ⁨#include "../common.hlsl"⁩ right?

[glacial plank]

Ai can fix stuff like that easily

Copilot is built into vscode

[fiery vapor]

sigh
if I have to

[fiery vapor]

wow... this kinda just works huh

lmao

anyways, I guess I could also use this to increase the brightness of the plasma gun muzzle flash and projectiles in turbo overkill

[fiery vapor]

huh, alright it does work

I guess all that's needed now is to figure out how to give it extra brightness by default

(I'm presuming I just need to slap a multiplier onto it)

probably just a 1.2 multiplier

[fiery vapor]

so based on an SDR pic, the muzzle flash in ultrakill is 83% bright (going from 0-1)

so now I just have to do some sort of math to convert that into a multiplier

(maybe just 0.83 + 0.5?)

so I'm probably gonna ⁨r0.xyz = color * 1.33;⁩

[void hollow]

was just testing, does seem to mostly work ootb but grading andn some shaders don't seem to be working 100%, dumped all of mine aswell just in case

[lapis schooner]

mine is from kinda the middle of the game, not the start, didnt try unity engine

[glacial plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4NB8cp6SqU

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2126190/Rue_Valley/

Steam

Rue Valley

Break free from a mysterious time loop! Embark on a journey of self-discovery and resilience. Delve into the enigmatic depths of the small godforsaken town: Rue Valley.

Each day feels like an uphill battle against the shadows of your own mind. Along the way, you will encounter a captivating ensemble of characters, each wrestling with the…

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

1251

[fiery vapor]

ok so 0x1F0578FF & 18F34244 seem somewhat similar to 0xECED3960

[dense thorn]

This looks promising

Damn, steam reviews tho

[main wharf]

Aw, sorry to hear that. Here, this includes 3 more missing shaders. Hopefully should cover the game.
@lapis schooner @void hollow also added a couple shaders for Cairn, tho most were already in addon indeed.

[main wharf]

Took a quick look at that and... it's pretty massive, about 70 uber shaders. Some might already be in addon I haven't checked, but mostly I wonder if game is compiling every possible shader including unused ones.
I know the few Frostbite engine games I had a look at do that. Way less common in Unity games, but given many things are customizable there I dunno...
Will see how I handle this later, I've read game's native HDR is usable anyway (?).
Maybe a dedicated mod fixing native HDR would be more suited 🤷

[fiery vapor]

found another shader that needs the fix lol

[fiery vapor]

I think the enemy projectiles need to be ITM'd too
lemme play Ultrakill in SDR to get a reference pic

[fiery vapor]

anyways these are the 4 shaders in ultrakill that are the render shaders

and once I make sure that the itm'd shaders look good I'll send those too

[fiery vapor]

I can't ITM the projectiles themselves but I can itm the sprites that surround them

oh yeah, now it's all coming together

[fiery vapor]

here are the projectile and muzzle flash shaders

[main wharf]

Is it that different from running ITM on the whole screen? FakeHDR boost or whatever I called the effect.

Also I already mentionned I think a more universal solution would be to use REST + ReShade fx ITM, though I still gotta try it.

[fiery vapor]

it's very different to running ITM on the whole screen (imo)

I can't test for sure since fake HDR boost does nothing in ULTRAKILL

[main wharf]

Aw right, probably not using Unity's post-processing stuff.
I'd have to make sure shaders are unique before I include them in universal addon. Maybe dedicated addon would be more fitted here, tho again, I'd be curious to try selective ITM with REST.

[fiery vapor]

well, I did dump them while renodx unity was enabled

[main wharf]

Can have multiple techniques in same ReShade.fx, so it should be possible to apply different ITM strength to different parts of game...

[storm vapor]

yes the game does that I think, while using ShaderToggler I saw lots more shaders than usual. about if the native HDR is usable, I'm not defiantly sure about that tbh but yes it could be

[dense thorn]

why that look like gmod

[fiery vapor]

It's ultrakill's sandbox mode, the sandbox map is a homage to gmod

[dense thorn]

Ah oge

[fading cradle]

Can you tell me if this file makes sense to use for the game Until the End?

[main wharf]

I can find two games with that name on Steam. None of them seems to be using Unity Engine, so I doubt addon works entirely.

Best case is that resources upgrades are enough to unclamp the game, in which case SpecialK HDR retrofit or even Generic RenoDX addon should be as effective.

[fading cradle]

I'm sorry I misspelled the title.
Unto the End

https://store.steampowered.com/app/600080/Unto_The_End

Steam

Unto The End

You play an average warrior trying to get home to their family. Kill everything you see or look for ways to avoid bloodshed. Sword fighting is challenging and unforgiving. It demands practice and recognition of subtle tells. Likewise, finding peaceful resolutions requires keen observation of your opponents and their surroundings. The choice i…

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

377

I'm looking to adjust the SDR settings in the game because I use an SDR TV. I've noticed that while moving forward in the game, some objects, like stones, appear slightly doubled. When running to the right, the left side of the stone duplicates; when running to the left, the same thing happens. The doubling is subtle but noticeable.

[fiery sail]

Anyone tried this with Lethal Company?

[raw crow]

Missing some ui (main menu, some context button text in-game) from the addon above for Cairn, have upgraded r11g11b10_float as well as enabling swapchain proxt, is there maybe something i'm missing?

[storm vapor]

some shaders are still missing for Cairn like thunder, it just a purple effect. will the devkit be able to catch that?

[raw crow]

hrm the ui works if I don't force dx12 when launching

[crimson spear]

@main wharf Cairn new output

[crimson spear]

LUT 0 / 100
They have some ugly ass colorgrading luts

[crimson spear]

original cso

[main wharf]

Uuuuh, no, this is already in addon

[main wharf]

Is one of the three I added in this ^
or was it 2 ? yea 3 was the other game

I haven't pushed tho mb

done*

[main wharf]

I'm confused, are you asking if addon would allow to control whatever graphical effect you're describing, the duplicating/doubling thing?
In which case I don't think so, addon only has Color Grading, Bloom, Lens Flare/Dirt, CA, Vignette, Dithering and Film Grain sliders.

[main wharf]

This one game is made on Unity Engine, so addon might be compatible, though I dunno if there'd be any improvement on SDR monitor. Depends on game's original behavior I guess 🤷

[fiery sail]

Tried installing this for lethal company and the addon didnt show in the overlay menu? Been a couple months since I used reshade so im not sure if i messed something up

[main wharf]

Uhm, make sure to install ReShade with addon support

[fading cradle]

I liked how the renodx addon mod is implemented in Silksong, I was just wondering what could be interpreted here 🙂 I tried the addon common to Until the End, it works with the game, but adjustments are needed.

[fiery sail]

I actually completely uninstalled it all and reinstalled, and it worked fine. No idea what happened the first time

[main wharf]

Yea I don't have proper SDR mode, detection and stuff yet.
Gotta set Game, Peak and UI Brightness to 80

[surreal haven]

@main wharf is the build from yesterday on github the best one for cairn or the one you posted a couple of days ago on discord #1413695723404398674 message

[main wharf]

They're the same

[surreal haven]

cool, thanks man

[hearty bronze]

not sure if i did this right but heres the lut shader from neon white

[woven crag]

Do you guys remember Starsand Island you worked on, that cozy anime genshin-like farming sim. It's finally coming out and they just dropped the news the game is gonna ship with an anticheat system

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starsandisland/s/7UUYk1C4OA

This is a load of bullshit excuses and not something that was mentioned on Kickstarter or until now. I hope it doesnt break Reno

I now have reservations of buying a game that's supposed to be a cozy singleplayer farming game with anticheat... Wtf. Let people do with their purchased software what the heck they want. I bet they're gonna be adding loads of mtx

And they kept this hush hush right until the release

"we're a small team with a small budget so we can't really afford expensive anticheats systems, but we will still implement one in our singleplayer game anyway"

(yes they will add some form of MP functionality on release but nobody really cares about that, it's just an excuse at this point and it's killing the hype for me)

[proper vine]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-breaking-bad-dissapointed-meme-gif-8811468191959274051

Well im glad i didn't end up making a whole ass mod for it

[woven crag]

Well iirc it all workedout out fine with the universal in the end?

[proper vine]

yeah good enough

probably could've squeezed out a bit more detail in the highlights if I remember right but it looked good still

[kindred nacelle]

Any way to fix ''Overcooked: All you can eat''?

most scenes are clamped to 203 nits, only some work correctly

oc 1 and 2 work without a problem

[main wharf]

I'll have a look when I get the chance.
OG games are fairly simple iirc, might just be one missing shader.

[kindred nacelle]

Ok!

[kindred nacelle]

I found this on the github page

64-bit. Enable Swapchain Proxy, Encoding: Gamma.
Color grading affected
General: Hideout, World Map Navigation
OC1: Intro Apocalypse/The Peckening, Ravenous Roads, Cosmic Canteen and Lost Morsel
OC2: Tutorial, Sushi City, Buffet Balloons, Moreish Mines, Christmas Cooking, Peachy Paradise, Dessert Island and Infusing Gardens

Already enabled swapchain

[fading cradle]

I gave your advice a try, but it didn’t make much of a difference, as this mod tends to produce various image artifacts. It seems manual adjustments tailored to this project’s requirements might be necessary.

[slender terrace]

Are these better left alone or cranking everything to the right wont hurt either way? Trying in Cairn.

[crimson spear]

Leave it alone

[fiery vapor]

hey I'm currently adjusting settings for Turbo Overkill because the highlights in most of the objects go white instead of keeping the highlight colour, and I found that when you set Highlights Saturation to 60, the Highlights change colour when changing the LUT Shaper

so...

what do you think is more "physically accurate", Lut Shaper set to Vanilla or LUT Shaper set to PQ?

personally, I like LUT Shaper set to Vanilla

I guess I'll also use hue correction

hue correction set to 100

with the hue processor being ICtCp

[rotund steppe]

How is it working in Cairn? I’m about to start playing too but I read some lutbuilders were missing. Dunno if all are there and it’s 100% now

[slender terrace]

I haven't gotten far yet, looks better than without, haven't noticed any problems, not sure i would if there were any though.

[main wharf]

Sure about color changing? Looks the same to me. Highlights seem stronger with PQ for some reason, rest is just naturally occuring I think. As in stronger highlights > stronger blowout (could be tonemapping or game's color grading, remember the green orb in RoR2).
Be mindful, reference is Vanilla with Vanilla Shaper, not RenoDRT.

[fiery vapor]

I don't really like the blowout that PQ makes

[fiery vapor]

if there was a way to fix the blowout without having to switch to the vanilla shaper, I'd like to know

I do also notice that Hue Correction slider works quite well with this game

[main wharf]

Isn't Highlights Saturation pretty much that? Tho I don't understand what there is to "fix". Again reference is vanilla SDR, not RenoDRT with vanilla Shaper

[fiery vapor]

I guess it's more of a personal preference thing

[main wharf]

IIRC game itself has at least an "alternative" grading option.

[main wharf]

Sounds like it to me

[fiery vapor]

actually speaking of that option

I need to check if it works with renodx

[main wharf]

It should. Basically gets rid of ACES

[fiery vapor]

oh damn

[main wharf]

Maybe they noticed weird blurple shit when they added SSR, I'm fairly sure Alt Grading was added in same update

[fiery vapor]

oh yeah
I thought alt grading was broken with RenoDX 😭

alt grading looks like the perfect base for RenoDX

[main wharf]

What's accurate I don't even know anymore. Quite confused since I saw blurple irl around a blue bulb

[fiery vapor]

😔

for me I'm going off how fire doesn't look blown out irl

[main wharf]

Fire can be quite different depending what burns and how...

[fiery vapor]

(or I guess more specifically, how other games have done it?)

unfortunately I have lost a reference image

actually nvm here's a reference image from Helldivers 2

the fire is kinda orange-y

yeah alt grading seems pretty nice, even if it's a little more "washed out" compared to the contrastiness of ACES

I guess ACES is commonly used because it looks "punchy", which then makes non ACES tonemapped images look "washed out"

ah perfect time to realise that I need to upgrade a resource
oh nvm I don't?

[main wharf]

Can't remember, should be written on wiki if needed.

[rotund steppe]

Awesome! Thanks

This is great! Just download, put into the desired games folder and execute?

[haughty dock]

No need to copy paste it around, it prompts for the game folder

[rotund steppe]

Ohhhh gotcha, awesome

Is there a similar one for unreal? Never seen this and it’s so useful

[velvet moth]

There is Reno and Luma for Unreal.

[main wharf]

I was sent these missing shaders and they were added to addon.
There may be more I dunno, feel free to report any oddity in this thread.

[rotund steppe]

I meant a script to auto install

[rotund steppe]

Will do! Thanks for updating it ^^

[haughty dock]

yes

#1411800884303626311 message

[fiery vapor]

ok disregard this, turns out that the reference pic I was using is incorrect

[fiery vapor]

https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/beatsaber/comments/1r1vljg/urp_beta_available_now/

[main wharf]

Oooooh

Most of the shaders in addon are URP's I think. Maybe it works ootb, or at least shouldn't be as hard to add compatibility if there are a few missing uber shaders.

[fiery vapor]

yeah

probably means that once this update releases I'll have to record my lightshows YET AGAIN

well, this also means new shaders to dump

[main wharf]

Not necessarily, they may already be in addon..! 🙏

Well, assuming they go with Unity's built-in post-processing anyway. Reason shaders were previously missing is that they were using old pipeline/custom stuff

[fiery vapor]

there is one shader that has to be dumped

and I think that shader is the tonemapper shader

wait

"I think?"

bruh, I literally just figured out that shader, why am I sprinkling a sense of doubt in my sentences

wait this is the bloom shader god damnit

wait

THIS IS THE BLOOM SHADER

it's a new bloom shader

[main wharf]

😄

URP's tonemapping is usually either in LutBuilderHdr, or in Uber if game uses LutBuilderLdr

[fiery vapor]

remove the saturate from line 48

[main wharf]

Then again, that is only if they use URP's built-in post-processing.

[fiery vapor]

for a cheap and dirty fix, needs to be tied to the bloom slider though

[main wharf]

Unity's very customizable so that's not guaranteed

[fiery vapor]

you'll want to put a tonemapper in this imo

remember that Beat Saber's bloom is tonemapped differently to the render

yeah it's ACES, but at least the blowout is stored in the post processing instead of the game objects

[main wharf]

Yea, Narkowicz's approximation iirc, wasn't it in like hundreds shaders..?
Not sure what the forward rendering sentence means, sounds like modding this game is a bit special. Maybe dedicated addon is better? 🤷

aw yea, 178 shaders, back then anyway...

Oooh, REPLACED demo dropped. Also Planet of Lana 2

-# and I still don't have an HDR screen lmao

[fiery vapor]

uhhh so about that...

they're in the mirror shaders

so the reflections are Narkowicz's approximation tonemapped

[main wharf]

Huh? Ooooh. But uhm, is that what "objects in forward rendering" means..? Or maybe they use a different approximation somewhere else..?
Doesn't seem to make any sense to me, but I don't know shit 🤷

[fiery vapor]

so before this update Beat Saber was using BIRP

[bronze galleon]

Ooh, sweet, gonna try to remote install it 😊

Replaced has a super nice vibe graphically

[fiery vapor]

I'm not really sure either, but I do know that the lasers no longer have the blowout defined in their shaders

[main wharf]

Ikr. Doesn't work ootb sadly, will add shaders some time later today.

[fiery vapor]

versions before this would multiply the laser colour by white for the centre of the lasers

[main wharf]

Mmh, so maybe they added even more ACES in other shaders..? Feel free to send a complete shaders dump of this beta, I can have a quick look today

[fiery vapor]

this is the only shader you need to modify lol

so anyways here's what the new version's lasers look like with the bloom shader disabled

[main wharf]

Doesn't sound right, tonemapping isn't here. I dunno.
Narkowicz's approx tonemaps beyond 1 iirc, so if not clipped in shader code or by resource format, there may be some small highlights.
Would still be capped tho

[fiery vapor]

hmmm

there's this shader

Hidden/Universal/Coreblit

[main wharf]

Uhm, nah that looks like a simple copy

Yea Blit makes sense

[fiery vapor]

yeah I guess this one is the one...
I wonder if adding the tonemapper to it will actually affect the lasers this time?

[fiery vapor]

okay this isn't actually the bloom shader

this is Hidden/MainEffect

the 2 shaders that are disabled in this image are the bloom shaders

disabling them leaves an afterimage lol

you'll probably want these just to add them to the bloom slider

[fiery vapor]

now I'm starting to understand what Jan might be talking about with forward rendering

the blowout is added in the shader that draws after the bloom shaders

disable the maineffect shader and both the blowout and bloom disappear

[main wharf]

Not necessarily. Bloom is commonly multiple shaders, one or a few that "build" the Bloom texture and one last shader that samples bloom texture (possibly multiple times) and adds it (or blends it) to main render texture. Usually only that latest shader is needed for slider.
It is quite possible that is Hidden/MainEffect, code very much looks like it.

[fiery vapor]

ah, got it

felt like screenshotting these parts

I need to go to bed now

[fading cradle]

The REPLACED demo is awesome! The visuals, the atmosphere in general, and the music are top-notch. But could someone explain the difference between Fullscreen mode and Borderless Window mode? Does it impact performance, or what’s the difference? I’ve heard that Borderless Window mode is often recommended when using a program like RenoDx.

[bronze galleon]

Yeah it's so beautiful, plays great (combat is super dynamic yet simple and accessible), is smooth af (a tad heavy but it's fine, only some drops in the 120s on a 3080 at 3440x1440) and the lore is captivating

Fullscreen mode is borderless fullscreen is Borderless window is Windowed mode without borders

iirc Unity doesn't have Exclusive ullscreen

[fading cradle]

I didn’t understand the answer at all :)) Does that mean there’s no difference after all? Visually, I don’t see any changes—whether in fullscreen mode or borderless windowed mode. The only advice given on Steam to the user was to enable fullscreen mode because they experienced some minor stutters at certain points. My TV has a 16:9 aspect ratio and 1080p resolution; I set the DSR to 2.25x, which results in a higher resolution. Maybe the borderless window mode is more common for those with ultra-wide monitors?

[bronze galleon]

Game has Windowed, Borderless and Fullscreen modes, the first two can be whatever res and will be in a window with or without borders

The last one is basically the same as Borderless at native resolution but has a Vsync option but it's the same as the second one at native res

[bronze galleon]

I take that back

[bronze galleon]

This too, it's actually an exclusive fullscreen mode indeed

I was using SK so it stayed in Borderless Fullscreen, my bad

[main wharf]

TLDR: Exclusive Full Screen = bad

Less performance, more latency due to... How Windows OS works I think (?)

Also quite annoying when multitasking, alt+tab is way slower with EFS. I can't think of a single reason to use it nowadays.
In fact I'm fairly sure it's been deprecated with dx12.

A remnant from old days I guess.
Weirdest part is that a small amount of (Unity) games still ship with it being default setting nowadays, dunno if it's a matter of compatibility with old hardware or something..?

[bronze galleon]

Ah crap, yet another Unity game tying Fixed Delta Time to its Physics

So don't touch it in SK lol

[bronze galleon]

I thought modern Unity got rid of it but this game would tend to disprove that assumption

@twin wharf would know best

[main wharf]

Do you ever launch games without SK..? 😅
I had to warn about Exclusive Fullscreen causing a crash on launch with Reno for like 90℅ of Unity mods I did

Sadly RenoDX's "Prevent Fullscreen" option doesn't work with this engine, no idea why

[bronze galleon]

Tbh, I only ever launch those I can't use SK in when using other mods + RenoDX like SK+OptiScaler+RenoDX is almost a guaranteed fail so I sacrifice SK for the other 2 but I'm an SK addict, no doubt about that lol

[main wharf]

Aye. Assuming OptiScaler can't do much in dx11 games most of which have no advanced upscaling method, I guess that means "I always use SK"

[bronze galleon]

I do play dx12 games tho 😉

[main wharf]

How many of them are Unity..?

[bronze galleon]

And Izueh is gonna work with Nitec so Luma DLSS can also do FG with OptiScaler using an interop

[bronze galleon]

A small handful I think

Most of them don't need anything upscaling or FG anyway

I think that's why I love Unity games so much, most of those I know are light ones

Egging On might be the exception, that's heavy heavy boi

Oh Replaced is gonna be on GOG !

🤞 day one

Yep it says coming soon but store page says release date march 12th 2026 so there's a chance

[main wharf]

More than a chance, just read FAQ

[bronze galleon]

Awesome ! That's a day one buy then !

Love devs who don't treat GOGers as second class citizens

[main wharf]

Aye, try this one please.

^ also added 2 shaders for REPLACED demo, tho I haven't played through to confirm that's all there is yet. Needs RG11B10_float upgrade to Any Size (to unclamp WCG)!!!

(Planet of Lana 2 demo seems to work OOTB, though it looks a bit flat like first game)

[main wharf]

Mmmh, Internal Lut Scaling seems weird in PoL2.
Dunno if I broke something recently, will check other games when I get the chance.
Likely code has to be improved, I was expecting to find a case that challenges it.

[velvet moth]

Has anyone checked Synthetik 2 by chance? I installed it but got these flashbangs on killing enemies.

[analog mauve]

What could be the cause of this?
Only the terrain is missing even without any resource upgrades

Game: Starsand Island

[kindred nacelle]

Works great now

Thanks

[main wharf]

Ugh, dunno. Same issue was reported in a couple games I believe.

It triggered once in some other game I got, in which it randomly stopped occurring after I updated addon with seemingly unrelated changes.

Please share corresponding ReShade.log after issue happens, hopefully there is a warning of some kind.

Else... Maybe you can try a different addon build (https://github.com/NotVoosh/renodx-unity/releases)

[glacial plank]

Needs revert state maybe

[main wharf]

Mmmh, are there several of these? Only one I've used is swapchain proxy's but it's disabled on screenshot so not in use there

[glacial plank]

Just the swapchain proxy one

[main wharf]

Lut Scaling seems fine here, so yea it's just something odd with Planet of Lana, will have a look later

[glacial plank]

Though in dx10 it ended up being incomplete and not reverting everything

[main wharf]

Maybe it's this again, will share a build with it commented out later.
Though it is possible ReShade.log warns about something OnCopy mismatch

[main wharf]

Can give this a try (has on_copy_texture thingie disabled)

[main wharf]

When I tried to isolate where issue came from back then, it seemed linked to cbuffers somehow as only removing their injection would bring back missing textures.

But game wasn't using cb13, and using another slot for injection wouldn't solve the issue so I dunno really.

then there was this, missing textures aswell I believe

Which ended up being this, @desert herald solved it with a simple commit

[glacial plank]

renodx::mods::shader::revert_constant_buffer_ranges = true;```

maybe that

shortfuse made it for metro

[analog mauve]

I have tried different addon builds randomly till the oldest nightly-20251103

Still the same 💀

Below are log from nightly-20260212

[main wharf]

Sadly can't see anything off at first glance.
Thank you though, that makes a third game I (or someone else) can investigate.
Will have another look when I get some time, try some more random flags or maybe I can find what links these games.

[woven crag]

We had a well working version for the demo, what changed with release I wonder? Except that they added anticheat

I wonder if this old build still works?

[fiery vapor]

@main wharf oh yeah I need to send you a shader for the 1.40.8 (modded?) version of beatsaber

all I did was remove the saturate

I'll go and fetch the name of the reflection

oh, this one is Hidden/MainEffect

lemme check if it's the same ID as the URP one

ok it's a different ID

[fiery vapor]

and yeah you could probably put the tonemapper in here

[bronze galleon]

Ooh nice, Neva prologue DLC in 6 days

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3905410/Neva_Prologue/

Steam

Neva: Prologue

Follow Alba as she chases chases a trail of white butterflies deep into the corrupted swamps, only to discover a frightened wolf cub, lost and alone. Determined to save her, Alba must earn the young wolf's trust and guide her through the blighted wilderness. Together, they will face new enemies, endure perilous trials, and confront a monstrous fo…

Release Date

Feb 19, 2026

[fiery vapor]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3709080/Wrack_Reclamation/
UE4 game

Steam

Wrack: Reclamation

You are the only one stopping an alien invasion... and loving every second of it! In this remake of 2014's Wrack, play as Kain as you shoot, slash, and hyperblast your way through a horde of invading aliens and robots to keep your planet safe.…

Price

$14.99

unfortunately no demo so I cannot test

[analog mauve]

I did tried that build on Alpha, Demo and Release
But all have issue with invisible terrain

As for Anti-Cheat they haven't added it yet (for now)

This is from their recent response

"All unreasonable or overly restrictive clauses in the user agreement have been removed. We will never restrict players from using mods or other custom content, and there is no anti-cheat system implemented in the game. After the full release, Steam Workshop will also be opened to allow everyone to freely create and share their ideas."

[bronze galleon]

Much prefer Reinhard over Daniele in REPLACED, those highlights man...

[rotund steppe]

Does Cairn need any resource upgrades?

I think by default is still limited at a sdr range

Yeah around 150 if I move peak brightness slider. Im guessing it needs upgrades

Tonemapper change also seems to have no effect

[rotund steppe]

Oh ok it does but its minimal, only a small portion of the clouds changes

(I´m testing in the main menu since its real time)

Is this the expected output?

[main wharf]

I guess so? Game seems to look a bit flat, at least per moment

From Steam page

[fiery vapor]

will the Neutwo tonemapper ever get added to this addon?

[main wharf]

Can try FakeHDR Boost in Effects. 🤷
Fwiw I think game is only clamped by resource..? Not sure, maybe I'm confused.
Anyway point is that in that case SpecialK remasters should work, while offering Perceptual Boost and stuff.
Uhm, RenoDX generic/Unity addon along ReShade shader is an option too I guess. Using REST to skip UI or maybe even ITM only certain parts of the game...

[rotund steppe]

Yeah it doesn´t seem to do much the mod. I tried turning it on and off and its almost the same

[main wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-first-movie-pokemon-the-first-movie-mewtwo-mewtwo-pokemon-gif-26672925

[rotund steppe]

But maybe its just the artstyle as you mention. Not a lot of room to pop

I probably add a lil hdr boost and call it a day. I just wanted to be sure I was not intentionally gimping it by not upgrading resources or something (I´m using defaults)

[rotund steppe]

Not sure about SpecialK tho, I guess it could be an option. It doesn´t behave too well in my TV usually tho (I´m missing MPOs cause Nvidia is weird)

[main wharf]

I wanna experiment with this and other stuff but not only am I quite busy with work, also not having any HDR screen atm except phone...
The latter should hopefully change by next month so I'll try to keep you posted when I start messing with that stuff.

[rotund steppe]

Im confused about what you mean by " I think game is only clamped by resource." You mean resource upgrade within the mod?

[main wharf]

Screenshot isn't HDR file, is it?
Graph seems ok, flat but unclamped.

[rotund steppe]

Yeah screenshot is not HDR my bad. I can get you one in HDR

[main wharf]

It's fine dw

[rotund steppe]

Oh ok if it seems unclamped that´s all I wanted to know. I guess it is what is is then

Thanks for taking a look at it!

[main wharf]

It's only relevant as this means other tools that upgrade resources (+ swapchain) would also unclamp the game, whether it is SpecialK or RenoDX generic addon.
Game may also be clamped in shader code, by an SDR effect, tonemapper, grading... In which case only a mod that also edits shaders can help.

[rotund steppe]

Ohhhhhhh ok I understand

[fiery vapor]

https://bskyx.app/profile/denshattack.bsky.social/post/3meqy6vcyzc2k

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

WE ARE IN THE FLOWING SANDS OF TIME 🗣️
WE ARE CAUGHT INTO THE STORM INTO THE EYE! 🗣️

[rotund steppe]

Also I tried this addon in Replaced demo and it seemed to work but I had no peak brightness setting available. Does it need resource upgrade? Couldn´t find anything in the wiki or in this thread

[fiery vapor]

@proper vine context is that this is lyrics to a eurobeat song that's in the Densha De D fangame

where you race trains

[proper vine]

never heard of the game before

must be good since ur so excited lol

[fiery vapor]

deshattack is on unity so hopefully there should be plenty to upgrade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFGPmXC6waY

wait this vid kinda low quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYLxd2T05UQ

oh yeah this game is gonna look amazing with HDR

so much bloom that can be upgraded

[main wharf]

RG11B10_float to Any Size for WCG.
Make sure to use updated addon, only latest version works in this demo. Every setting, peak brightness included, should be available by title menu.

[rotund steppe]

I tried this but didn’t work. Still no peak slider

[pallid wagon]

@main wharf found a missing shader in cairnes main menu when hovering over the free solo difficulty

[rotund steppe]

Oh ok apparently I didnt have the latest version for some reason. Now it works, sorry!

[rotund steppe]

YEAH, Reinhard looks insane

[woven crag]

I managed to catch a couple of more shaders playing for about half an hour, which should hopefully cover most of them. the game is pretty much to where it was with the early demo:

• UI is in HDR but the game itself is nott
• character creator is in HDR but you get a warning for missing shaders
• I don't have an issue with transparent floors using "older" builds from 2 weeks ago and there's no difference with demo build too, it's just like how it was at the start

[pallid wagon]

some more

[rotund steppe]

Could this mod be causing cairn photo mode not to capture anything? It says it’s taking screenshots but the folder is empty

[rotund steppe]

There’s missing shaders in cairn when looking through binoculars

[rotund steppe]

Also lightning shaders seem missing. Entire sky goes purple, same as binoculars

[errant swallow]

Sable seems to work fine out of the box

[main wharf]

Aye thanks for the dumps @pallid wagon and @woven crag!
Added few missing shaders for both Cairn and Starsand Island in this, lemme know how it goes. 🙏

[sweet mural]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1663850/REPLACED/

Steam

REPLACED

Uncover the sinister secrets of Phoenix Corporation, through the eyes of its own creation, R.E.A.C.H. - an AI trapped in a human body against its will. In an alternate 1980s America reshaped by nuclear catastrophe, Phoenix-City has become one of the Corporation’s strongholds - a haven for corruption where outlaws thrive and human life…

Release Date

Mar 12, 2026

?

[main wharf]

Assuming question is about support, answer is YES

Had game in Steam wishlist for months, added demo's shaders on the day it launched

Still haven't played through tho ):

So uuuh, demo should work as long as you use updated addon!

[main wharf]

^

Needs RG11B10_float upgrade to Any Size (to unclamp WCG)!!!

[sweet mural]

Thanks. Great visuals to make them work in HDR

[rotund steppe]

Awesome! Will test cairn today. Much appreciated

[main wharf]

Woops I should've scrolled up more, missed this sorry. Adding it later today, I need to push today's changes anyway.
Just hoping I didn't do any mistake when adding recent shaders

[haughty dock]

It requests elevation if the path is used for symlinks

[woven crag]

Thank you so much, I can't wait to test it out ❤️

[bronze galleon]

WHAT ?!?!

It'll take you like 10 minutes max (so small but so good)

Curious whether you prefer Reinhard or Danielle in it btw

[main wharf]

I'd usually stick to defaut tonemapper and either increase Highlights or Contrast if needed, but will try Reinhard and see.

[main wharf]

I'm super busy these days, and also not having any HDR screen except phone since I moved in November leaving both TV and monitor behind.
Relocating again very soon, likely this week, will see then to either have my stuff sent over or pickup some new gear.

[woven crag]

unfortunately doesn't seem to be working, nothing changed 🤔

i'll play some more with the upgrades and stuff but idk 💀

[main wharf]

Oh. Wait, I can't find the FSR shader I had to unclamp for demo in latest dump. Lemme see, might have changed hash

[main wharf]

Can't find any similar shader, which may be for the best, it was a headache to get working (and I had hands on demo back then lol).
I can find what appears to be Unity's EASU/RCAS combo, will send a build with these two shaders added in like 10 mins.

[woven crag]

not sure if this information helps but game CTDs on launch when trying to upgrade R8G8B8A8_UNORM (altho that one wasn't required in the demo iirc just the standard one)

[bronze galleon]

Tried the former at first and Reinhard with defaults won me over

[woven crag]

oops it was the unorm one, not the typeless. i was looking at the .ini got confused

[main wharf]

No worries, but yea it sounded odd since rgba8_typeless is the default one 😅

Aw, another thing, Unity's FSR commonly uses RGB10A2_typeless resource. You may need to upgrade this with Output Ratio if incoming build is still clamped

[woven crag]

anything wrong if I rawdog test them with any size?

[main wharf]

🤷

[woven crag]

😅

didn't seem to be causing issues so far but as always I'll try everything

[main wharf]

Some upgrades may not do anything, I doubt there's a game that uses every available resource format.

[woven crag]

I've seen complaints about the bright UI in the steam comments, and replied about using reno but no feedback so far 😔

the UI is annoying even in SDR that's telling

[main wharf]

When it comes to Unity afaik the most common are RGBA8_typeless, RGB10A2_typeless, RG11B10_float (this one is HDR range, just lacks negatives which are WCG in bt709 space). Then eventually some rare RGBA16_typeless that is unorm in a few games.

[main wharf]

Aw actually I forgot, Unity's FSR only clips WCG, not highlights, so you can already try the upgrade (RGB10A2_typeless). Hopefully should already unclamp the game

[main wharf]

Might have to be Output Size if FSR's resolution scaling is enabled

[main wharf]

Here you go, I hope!

[main wharf]

^ @woven crag Also added those couple EASU/RCAS shaders, but again they are only clipping bt2020 colors, not highlights, so there's either another shader or some missing resource upgrade (I'd bet on RGB10A2_typeless).

[woven crag]

uhm... FSR? I'm actually using DLSS now could this be the issue?

[main wharf]

Ooooooh, I don't remember game demo having this

[woven crag]

it does unclamp somehow, this reminds me on the demo, i can curse it if I mess around with the sliders and set encoding to gamma

let me try new build now

[woven crag]

yeah it seems they added it and I defaulted to it

[main wharf]

SFSR wut 👀

Super FidelityFX Super Resolution..?

[woven crag]

🤷‍♂️

[main wharf]

😄

Worth a shot running native res/no upscaling for testing purpose

[velvet moth]

But, it's Super Super.

[junior river]

Inb4 FSR 1

[woven crag]

oh it seems i also somehow managed to break the textures 💀

[junior river]

[main wharf]

ofc it is (:

[woven crag]

I really don't mind what upscaler they're using at this point I just want it to work

[main wharf]

Oh ? lmao

[woven crag]

yeah look at sky in the screen

[main wharf]

Demo was doing some weird stuff iirc, I guess I might have to take a look at the game.

[main wharf]

Missing textures have been reported in this already. I guess that makes one more reason to take a look at game, ugh

[woven crag]

interesting now it's telling me missing shaders with the new build. well ok then

oh and let me try fsr

jesus that looks bad 😂

and it actually clamps it back 👀

we're making some progress, game looks correct now, but

• game brightness slider not working
• UI slider affects everything

this seems like a familiar issue

(this is on dlss default sliders)

(same behavior for no upscaling)

[main wharf]

Wuuuut. Yea so changing game settings can change shaders, but this would usually mainly be post-processing effects (Bloom, Vignette, CA, Lens on/off).
I guess upscaling could do that aswell, again it depends how it's implemented.
I believe that ideally upscaling occurs before post-processing so that effects are done at full resolution.
Sadly Unity's often seems to do the other way around, FSR1 almost always runs after all effects are done. This is better for performance, but quite annoying when modding.
I've seen both for DLSS, which is way more rare in dx11 games.

[woven crag]

and uhm still missing output shader. i guess i'll do another dump

[main wharf]

That one is weird, things would look wrong when missing output shader, unless LUT Shaper is set to Vanilla.

I might have done an oopsie, lemme check

[main wharf]

No need to dump!!!

Is my bad

[woven crag]

HOLD UP

it was resolution modifier!!!

setting it back to 100% and turning off upscaling now it all works!

oh but UI is still affecting game 🙁

increasing game brightness now reduces highlights? 🤔

[main wharf]

Ok so to me this hints a bit more towards missing resource upgrade

Again RGB10A2_typeless to Output Ratio, or maybe RGBA8_typeless to Output Ratio (the one that's enabled to Output Size by default)

[main wharf]

Yea this might be my bad aswell, sorry. Incoming build in a sec

[woven crag]

i mean, it kinda works. excited for the new build 🙂

[main wharf]

Try this please

[woven crag]

omw

[main wharf]

OUTPUT RATIO, not size*

When using resolution scaling that is (other than 100% scale).

[woven crag]

my man! 🙏 works now ❤️

[woven crag]

right now i have both of them output ratio with dlss 50% resolution

[main wharf]

Noice, thanks for bearing with me, this took longer than it should have

-# my brain somehow

[woven crag]

you deserve way more credit don't treat yourself like that 😄

RGB102A_typeless doesn't seem to be needed

[main wharf]

Aye!

[woven crag]

but let me try one more thing I think it messes with some of the UI elements

ok so I think this was eventually fixed in the demo version we had, some of the UI elements are shaded as game particle FX (the white dots in loading bar, the quest guiding stars and pretty much any 2D sparkly effect) which is actually something I kinda like

if this is something that should be "fixed" or not might be somewhat subjective i guess

[main wharf]

Yes it should be

[main wharf]

Can try to change UI behavior in Compatibility settings, iirc slider to far right is clamp (SDR). Might work, might not, in the latter case I'll have to see if I can add corresponding shader to addon.

[woven crag]

hm yeah does nothing

but i actually kinda want it to stay, it feels nice when you get bright FX pop when you craft something

[main wharf]

Dopamine goes brrrrrr

[junior river]

Voosh when Unity Ultra+?????

I need it to unfuc SSR in Midfield

720p UAV

[main wharf]

Sounds like something that would require actual coding skills lmao, why ask me

I looked into BepInEx back then and as much as it does a lot to make modding easy, shit's confusing af

[junior river]

We managed to turn Midfield's Reno into RenoDX Luma 2.0

vanilla by comparison looks like slop

too many rendering issues

[main wharf]

Wuuuuuuuuut. Difference is crazy, is that just Reno? Dang

[junior river]

Vanilla probes are fukked

they cranked them to run 100%

so even when you go into a dark area

metallic objetcs are still bright and glow

All the fx run at half res UAVs + upscaling

so at 4K you get 720p UAVs for SSR,GTAO, DOF ect

looks abysmal

we managed to get GTAO to run at full res UAV

then added vis bitmask

and redid GTAO

[main wharf]

-# Yo this is already getting too technical for me

[junior river]

[main wharf]

Yea I dunno really

I use this in most Unity games https://github.com/originalnicodr/CinematicUnityExplorer

[junior river]

(I dont know what I am doing either dont worry)

[main wharf]

It's pretty universal, has a few toggles that may or may not work.

Force high LODs toggle. This means that the highest models possible will be forced on all meshes.

Toggle to make all meshes cast and receive shadows.

Toggle to make all game lights emit shadows.

[junior river]

oh wow, found this just now https://github.com/DeftSolutions-dev/IL2CPP-Dumper

specifically for Midfield

[main wharf]

Toggle to change the resolution of shadows generated by the game's vanilla lights. Beware using this one with the two options from above. Also, take in mind that lights created with the Light Manager already generate high-resolution shadows.

Maybe I should ask AI to make BepInEx mods for me

[junior river]

sooo the game doesnt modulate AO under fake or spotlights.... so in vanilla you have entire areas that dont apply AO including grass

We fixed that

by forcing the deferred shaders to apply AO regardless

Reno Dee Eggs

saving not only HDR but rendering as well

[main wharf]

Crazy stuff, looks amazing already

[junior river]

RTX off/RTX on

Same grading, tonemapper ect

just comparing vanilla rendering vs modded

oh and cum glass fix

(glass is a forward object in-game so its consistently cloudy and doesnt look like glass at all. Applies linear fog onto itself even in areas with no fog)

[main wharf]

This is kind of stuff one can see in UnityExplorer. I don't get most of it, but it looks like it may be useful to someone who knows stuff I dunno.

Use the Object Search tab to search for Unity objects (including GameObjects, Components, etc), C# Singletons or Static Classes.

The inspector is used to see detailed information on objects of any type and manipulate their values, as well as to inspect C# Classes with static reflection.

[junior river]

I'll look into it

Midfield is custom so might not work

[woven crag]

what a shame about that game it's so much factory slop, because it's so beatiful with the mod

[junior river]

We added the new mcdonalds bottom hue code

BRUH

INZZZZANE COLORS

It keeps highlight saturation looking good without deepfrying

or weird hue shifting

[woven crag]

I get this so much whenever I use any form of autohdr on my C2, it's so bad. and I wasn't sure if it's a woled's fault or autohdr slop (it just turns out most games i use this display for are not reno compatible)

lmao they just use the same texture for the sun and moon

you just can't see it in sdr clamp city

[junior river]

In Midfield, you can see seems in distant terrain because SDR clamping + hue shifting blends the holes

So the artists didnt pick up on it

meanwhile HDR now exposes gaps and holes in meshes

[bronze galleon]

Like RenoDX Unity via BepInEx ? Yes please ❤️

[main wharf]

I wanted to give that a try, but just setting up Visual Studio is pain lmao so I gave up

I don't even know how/if it would work tbh, I was randomly exploring some game with CinematicUnityExplorer and found all the tonemapping stuff. Unity's native HDR tonemap (ACES 1000 nits, 2000 nits profiles) was available, but then forcing it wouldn't be any useful without also changing resources format, which I guess can also be done with BepInEx modding (?), I just don't know how.

[bronze galleon]

Damn, Unity truly has a massive untapped potential

[main wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-community-icandoanything-vr-gif-18858479

[bronze galleon]

Been having a blast the last few days in Make Way with Reno

[rotund steppe]

Still missing binoculars shader (still purple). Need to check lightning one when I get a storm

[main wharf]

Aye thanks for feedback.
I guess if things look wrong then it's defo missing a shader, but I'm fairly sure I added all those from dump.
Just to make sure did you look through binoculars with devkit's auto-dump enabled or dump all after looking through them?

[pallid wagon]

I think it was me who dumped and he said that the shader’s missing after.

[rotund steppe]

Yup lightning is also missing

[rotund steppe]

It looks purple. Same as lightning. Not sure if it’s intended but definetly doesn’t seem like it

[pallid wagon]

I’m not far into the game but I’ll keep dumping shaders if I see anything. I’ll check the binoculars once I get them

Btw is auto dump better or should I just dump once I see something missing

[main wharf]

Addon's UI displays a written warning when output shader is missing, also you can try to change LUT Shaper setting. Vanilla or PQ shouldn't look much different, except deeper blacks and eventually unclamped highlights in some games, though not Cairn as LUT is already HDR.

[main wharf]

Up to you really. I'm not used to auto-dump as relatively new so I always dump manually, but unless there's a noticeable perf hit auto-dump sounds nice. Enable and forget about it

I wouldn't do long sessions with devkit loaded for performance/stability reasons, but my laptop is relatively weak so I dunno.
Maybe ideally you don't play with devkit, and only add it to reproduce a gameplay situation that misses a shader.

Even more ideally Unity addon would be able to dump shaders, but that'll be in the future some day maybe 😅

[woven crag]

I am wondering like... Starsand Island sold over 100k copies in the first few days, has a big community and had a playable demo for months. A few complained about the bright UI but I haven't seen any discussions about HDR, or let alone, the mod.

Am I the only one that cares about it being in HDR, the only one that's actually using the reno mod right now? Because nobody else came around reporting the current builds weren't working, except @analog mauve I guess, who had texture problems (try again, it also broke for me when toggling sliders, it should not happen with defaults, just mess around or reinstall if needed)

We got a new build that fixes HDR in the live version btw, scroll up

[woven crag]

another minor issue with the mod but I'm not sure if this is easily fixable, adjusting UI brightness also adjusts your character brightness into this, uhm... cursed, burned mess in the character screen

here's comparison with UI 203 default (burns my eyes) vs 90 what I like to use but my character is cooked

basically it seems like it's toning down the entire screen when you open the menu, including the character on it

[analog mauve]

I accidentally got rid of the terrain transparency issue while troubleshooting another game. For some reason, it was fixed by using the GPU's Integer Scaling instead of Display Scaling. I don't know why. AMD is weird.

The UI Brightness Slider also seems to affect game brightness for me as well.

The majority of the player base for games like this is pretty casual, so I don't think they even know what HDR is, and no one is even mentioning it.

I'll try the new build later.

[fiery vapor]

oh didn't see this

will try soon

oh damn the lasers actually tonemap now

I bet it's gonna look even better in the URP version

[fiery vapor]

alright so I guess all that's left is the URP version

[main wharf]

Meeeeeeeh, I thought the shader I just added was from latest beta

[fiery vapor]

that one was the 1.40.8 one

unless

wait

[main wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-scream-south-park-cartman-eric-cartman-gif-13473745542814077855

[fiery vapor]

I'll juuussttt double triple quadrouple check

but yeah at least the 1.40.8 shader got added

[main wharf]

All gud dw, I'm just super confused with the amount of versions and mods and whatnot in this game lol

[main wharf]

Should I keep previous shaders ?

[fiery vapor]

yes

[main wharf]

Aye, so I believe we've got 3 total now

[fiery vapor]

people will still be using 1.40.8 for a while

[main wharf]

Oh, I meant the ones from before, not latest one.

[fiery vapor]

hmm

possibly

oh

yeah you should, since they're in between 1.40.8 and the new URP pipeline

that's a particle shader

Hidden/MainEffect (1.42.100 URP)

oh yeah the rest of the ones must've been false alarms

ok mb I forgot that 30d0 is the 1.40.8 output shader

also, could you add the ACES tonemapper as an option in the tonemapper slider?

just because game originally uses ACES

or ACES filmic

[main wharf]

Yea but I'm not replacing any ACES code here

[fiery vapor]

👍

[main wharf]

ACES is probably already running somewhere earlier

[fiery vapor]

ah

I think URP update should fix that

[main wharf]

I'm surprised you get that bright highlights btw, but I dunno how game renders stuff. What I've seen seems very bright for something that's supposedly tonemapped to SDR, even if tonemapping is before post-processing