Red Dead Redemption 2

[warped mountain]

its not doable

[sterile ruin]

[warped mountain]

Rockstar Launcher's overlay is hardcoded to the home key

fucking cancer

[lime lintel]

If you long press Home it's not gonna activate it

[warped mountain]

bind reshade to another key

still cancer

[sterile ruin]

if the game wouldnt fucking crash with that overlay

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monsters-vs-aliens-speechless-what-i-do-what-we-gon-do-bout-that-gif-5698728855178858064

[warped mountain]

game is ass with their launcher anyway

i stop playing any rockstar games because of that

[white oyster]

in ur reshade.ini set this under [input]
KeyOverlay=45,0,0,0

@sterile ruin

[sterile ruin]

what that supposed to do

[warped mountain]

change your reshade hotkey

[sterile ruin]

bro

i have done that

but i crash everytime i accidentally hit home because im so used to doing that for a million years

[white oyster]

it binds reshade to insert instead of home

[white oyster]

that shouldnt be happening

what reshade build are u using

u might need the renodx build

[sterile ruin]

6.6.2

[white oyster]

https://nightly.link/clshortfuse/reshade/workflows/renodx/renodx?preview

try this one

[sterile ruin]

.

[sterile ruin]

thats a old build tho

6.5

shortfuse doesnt update that anymore

[white oyster]

ya cuz its customized for best compatibility with RenoDX afaik

ive used it for some games when newest reshade crashes

[sterile ruin]

the fixes are all in 6.6 now or sumn

[white oyster]

idk if it actually does anything but i dont have crashes in rdr2 when opening r* overlay

[sterile ruin]

he recommends using 6.6+ for that reason

[white oyster]

ah

im using 6.5.1.2 and it doesnt crash with the R* overlay

worth a shot

rdr2 is from 2018 anwyays idk if itll benefit from newer reshade

[sterile ruin]

crazy how diff it looks at night

[warped mountain]

gamingtech would tell you native hdr is perfect

[sterile ruin]

dat banding tho

[obsidian patrol]

this only works in DX12 I assume?

[white oyster]

isnt there a debanding filter in the reshade effects?

[white oyster]

yeah

[stray plume]

debanding in post is bad, pretty much a last resort solution

and you have to be okay with reducing detail

though if it's sky only, there's depth tested ones that work fine enough

[warped mountain]

liliums dithering shader

[sterile ruin]

Dis mf witnessing the RenoDX glory

[rough rose]

How many cats do you have?

[sterile ruin]

4

[rough rose]

[sterile ruin]

3 siblings and one stray that came to us

[rough rose]

[hollow ice]

Homie wants a huggie

[sterile ruin]

She got

[stray plume]

Damn she looks conniving af

[white oyster]

plotting to murder

[sterile ruin]

She would never

[slate wren]

Looks like you

Oneorangebraincell

[sterile ruin]

[pliant dock]

yeah, I'm a fan of that as well. Default (white clip 100 & blowout 0) vs. white clip 40 & blowout 1

[white oyster]

fr, at first i wasnt sure if the sun was supposed to be visible like that but it really looks nicer with blowout 1 so im using it even if its less "accurate"

[sterile ruin]

Glad you like

[flint crater]

How does raising blowout compare to lowering blowout restoration

[sterile ruin]

good question, thats what i did for witcher yesterday..

[white oyster]

should Hue Correction be on or off in this?

[flint crater]

Off

Fires become pink with it on

[white oyster]

oh interesting

i think im pretty happy with how this looks

[sterile ruin]

350 ui brightness

[manic lion]

wtf

enjoy screen burn i guess

[tribal hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/matinee-joe-dante-90s-60s-period-piece-screaming-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-gif-15030426

[pliant dock]

image retention on modern OLEDs seems like a meme, I've not babied my display at all and there's no sign of it after a few years of heavy usage, though the peak brightness has noticeably degraded in that time

[tribal hatch]

i'm using mine for work, so no babying either but ui brightness above 200 just seems weirdly unnecessary

[pliant dock]

I tend to go a little above my general game brightness, so I'll often do 203 game/250 UI

it just depends on the UI and game, really, sometimes HUDs have a tendency to get "lost" in the scene, but if they don't then I won't raise the UI brightness

[manic lion]

350 is nuts though

[sterile ruin]

Im over here doing like 80-140 nits UI

Depending on game

[manic lion]

same

[placid wing]

Does anyone here experience the bug of the weather instantly changing instead of smoothly transitioning? It's really ruining the immersion for me.

[pliant dock]

I had similar issues with instant day/night transitions when using DLSS/DX12, but reverting to the native TAA fixed it for whatever reason

[placid wing]

Interesting...not really willing to give up dlss for this. What a strange bug.

[pliant dock]

yeah, it's bizarre and doesn't sound like it should be related at all, but it is what it is

nothing to do with Reno, I had that problem before the add-on was made

[white oyster]

I play during the day and I turn up the brightness a bit so I don’t see my reflection lmao

[white oyster]

Damn, yeah I’m not giving up DLAA for better day/night transitions lol

[tender osprey]

Load game with taa enabled, and change to dlss after loading save

[placid wing]

Yes! Thanks man. That worked.

Wait...changing back to DLSS during the proper transition ruined it again

I'm using the in game settings to change to dlss hbu?

Yep, changing back to DLSS instantly ruins the lighting system. What the actual f*ck.

[tender osprey]

well it fixed my hair bug, dlss is buggy with dx12 in this game

[placid wing]

Well, patiently waiting for vulkan reno to be released

[placid wing]

My Arthur had a beard on his nose

[white oyster]

why would this happen when the camera is facing 1 speciifc angle? it looks fine until i hit this one tiny spot where the campfire lighting totally dissapears, seems like odd culling?

[river willow]

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/258282o585k1ka/red-dead-redemption-coming-to-netflix-ios-android-ps5-xbox-series-and

Yes rockstar. This is the next gen update we were waiting for. Cool that PS4/xb1 owners don't have to pay for the upgrade tho

[stray plume]

has anybody run into a situation with the rockstar launcher where it simply won't connect? I have no fucking clue why it hates me

[stray plume]

having a problem that aligns with the technically illiterate in a rockstar game makes shit impossible to google

[flint crater]

I was getting this constantly. launching the exe directly was working fine

[stray plume]

unfortunately the thing this is mostly affecting is me trying to play gta4, just figured this channel made the most sense for asking

launching direct from the exe just boots it through steam which boots the rockstar launcher 🙁

I've tried everything humanly possible I can think of. Port forwarding, DNS changes, VPN servers, clearing cookies, updating my account on the website, shit's just fucked

since I've played my rdr2 install before this problem, it works with their offline mode at least

but gta4 is fucked

[flint crater]

Ya directly through exe was launching through steam/rockstar but worked better for me for some reason

And then it stopped working

[stray plume]

no luck

what's weird is it can successfully sign me in with a clean install of the launcher, but then it fails to launch the game and after that I can't sign in again

I'm simply gonna have to steal the game I bought

[stray plume]

there's no fucking way a successful workaround is to wipe the launcher's files in documents and then not interact with the cookie pop up

can't close it out, have to not click it

[river willow]

https://tenor.com/view/strauss-zelnick-gif-17946566395603164978

Strauss says what you gonna do about it buddy boy

[uneven girder]

Isn't that a culling/screen space shadow image defect?

[white oyster]

thought so, but that setting fixed it

[pliant dock]

setting it to 0.0 disables some shadows

[chrome osprey]

Last time a similar thing happened to me, it was due to the system clock of all things - https://www.reddit.com/r/pchelp/comments/1ldjciu/how_to_fix_sorry_we_are_unable_to_handle_your/

[stray plume]

it ended up being cookies

[fading leaf]

Time for a 3rd playthrough when RenoDX becomes available with Vulkan

[novel ridge]

damn the time and night change in this game can be so ugly. Everythings turns blue and the shift happens like in a second

Renodx looks beautiful tho

[pliant dock]

@novel ridge

[white oyster]

Yeah it’s a bug with DX12…. A Vulkan version of RenoDX would get rid of that issue, without needing to resort to native TAA (I much prefer DLAA/DLSS)

[novel ridge]

Well I guess i have to go back to vulkan because it's unbearable

[knotty forge]

i have hdr enabled but the sliders in the menu arnt doing anything? i am using visual redemption and reshade 6.6.2 with addon support

i do also have scripthook, lml and asi loader. i saw somewhere earlier those are needed to load edited game files when i was looking for and answer to this

[tribal hatch]

scripthook is what caused that issue for me. i know there's a specific version of scripthook that will work fine alongisde reno according to others.

[knotty forge]

you dont happen to know the version do you? i tried the 2 older scripthook versions from nexus but same problem

[tribal hatch]

no. i just stopped using script hook as i barely use any mods so wasn't that consequential for me

[knotty forge]

oh is scripthook not required to get renodx working?

[tribal hatch]

no 🙂

[knotty forge]

ohh i thought i had read somehwere way up that it was along with lml and somethiong else lol ill try to remove it and see if that does it thanks!

[tribal hatch]

nah. you only need the game set to dx12 and reshade with addons. that's it

[knotty forge]

just removed scripthook and that did it thanks alot lol

[tribal hatch]

no prob 🙂

[flint crater]

i think someone mentioned that reno wasn't working for them until they installed dinput8.dll

which I think is from lemmy

idk

[white oyster]

same, im just using stock HDR for now

[balmy surge]

Received a request for LUT strength for Vanilla SDR

[flint crater]

Gotta rewrite stuff

[keen kiln]

Hey all I'm trying to use this and the game is crashing on launch for me. I have it set to Dx12 with the latest reshade w/addons. Am I missing something?

nvm I realized the graphics settings did not save and it was using vulkan still

[plain minnow]

Mod is mostly still a work in progress I think, I beleive Musa was waiting for the updated version of the game but it seems Rockstar isn't doing that now...

[white oyster]

rockstar prolly is still doing it, just we dont know when itll release

[fluid adder]

It's "funny" that Rockstar did a current-gen version of the RDR that didn't really needed.

[white oyster]

ehh, it kinda was needed

its just building off the Switch 1/PC codebase anyways, which Double Eleven worked on and released in early 2020-2022

double eleven did the new RDR port for switch 2/ps5/series x too

its not rockstar

[rough rose]

Yeah, Rockstar is too busy with union busting and not releasing gta 6

[remote garden]

if I understand correctly now it doesn't work anymore? I'm trying to get vulkan and hdr working but the reno addon sliders does nothing.

[fervent canopy]

the renodx mods for rdr2 work only with dx12 api

[lusty wolf]

Hi. I waited so much for a renodx for RDR2. Idk, the game HDR didn't please me much. I am glad this mod exists now!
I am using rage Scripthookv2 with lml and with the latest AsiLoader from the official Github.How I installed:

• I removed texture overhaul and other "Vulkan" mods from lml,
• I changed in game API to DX12 from VULKAN
• I dowloaded the reshade64 dll and renamed it to reshade64.asi
• I've put reshade64.asi and renodx-rdr2.addon64 In a Scripts folder inside RDR2 game folder (so like \Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\scripts)
• ASI loader would take care of loading reshade so I avoid conflicts with other dlls that are loading
• I still run all mygame asi mods except those I mentioned that need VULKAN.
  I played a few hrs, tweaking renodx and going into the wilds, no issues for me., and those lights and sky and fires look awesome! (LG C2). Only a small personal issue, i like the somber mood like the original had+ the new lighting etc, for now I disabled that standard sRGB from renodx, and I also toned down the LUT a bit. It is awesome. Thanks again, sry for the long wall of text!

[sterile ruin]

[sweet night]

Very nice, glad you're enjoying it.

I'd be interested in some comparison screenshots with and without your mods/tweaks, if you have any. 🙂

[lusty wolf]

Idk how to do this, Im not versed..but if I enable/disable RenoXd Preset i have it like this (Idk if Discord is showing the *.jxl )

Is not doing it 😄 .Sorry Idk how to show HDR photos.

[tender osprey]

Print button

[lusty wolf]

Like this? Preset On vs preset off in reno?

It doesn't look like in game.If I look at the pic (in HDR) is more "muted in the pic than in game.. Well I tried. Thanks for trying to help me anyways..I'll just enjoy/tweak RenoDX more for now.

[river willow]

Interesting. Never tried letting asi loader handle reshade. I gave up trying to have mods and reno at the same time. Will do some tinkering later

[lusty wolf]

I usually do it when I can for other games also, especially when multiple "loaders" race each other to hook the game. So I just use AsiLoader then rename all of them however I want usually, but with .asi extension..and I put them in scripts folder if i can, or leave in game root folder, depending..But I like to keep them in scripts...like here, I have DLSS Tweaks also and reshade, both handled by Ultimate AsiLoader.

[river willow]

oh damn didnt know it works for dlsstweaks as well. Imma check this out when i get home

[lusty wolf]

Yea the dlssTweakConfig will complain that no game exee, but we dont care since it writes the settings in its ini anyways..thats all it does..So we can check the log (dlsstweaks.log) after we start the game, and it should be saying its hooked:
[2025-12-18 21:01:53.945] [info] DLSSTweaks v0.310.2.1, by emoose: dlsstweaks.asi wrapper loaded
[2025-12-18 21:01:53.945] [info] Game path: F:\Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\RDR2.exe
[2025-12-18 21:01:53.945] [info] DLL path: F:\Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\scripts\dlsstweaks.asi
[2025-12-18 21:01:53.945] [info] ---
[2025-12-18 21:01:53.952] [info] Config read from F:\Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\scripts\dlsstweaks.ini
[2025-12-18 21:01:53.952] [info] Wrapped system DLL, watching for DLSS module load
[2025-12-18 21:01:53.952] [info] INI monitoring: watching for INI updates...
[2025-12-18 21:02:01.286] [info] nvngx: applied export hooks, waiting for game to call them...
[2025-12-18 21:02:01.763] [info] nvngx_dlss: applied debug hud overlay hook via registry
[2025-12-18 21:02:02.833] [info] nvngx_dlss: applied debug hud overlay hook via registry
[2025-12-18 21:02:03.192] [info] DLSS functions found & parameter hooks applied!

Sorry I think I hijacked this thread..Imma stop..If I can help ask me in priv maybe..Sorry moderators

[river willow]

Interesting. I was having a lot of issues with scripthook V2 and Reno. Renaming to .asi for reshade and dlss tweaks, I've had a pretty solid experience free roaming for the past few hours. Will need to test in missions and then add my mods back one at a time. But this seems promising

[river willow]

I'll check with ab scripthook as well

[lusty wolf]

they say use the latest ASI loader from github (may NOT work with really old asi mods) if using scripthook v2, then disable the interface overlay or whatever is called in scripthook ini.we dont really need it..read its somewhere in the first comments in the mod page

[sleek mist]

@flint crater how usable is this vs native hdr rn?

[flint crater]

haven't run into any issues yet

[hardy epoch]

Very good, I finished the game with this mod. Thank you Musa!

[sleek mist]

I have to try to mess around with it again but I was getting out of memory crashes.

[flint crater]

might have something to do with scripthook

someone mentioned how they got it working

[sleek mist]

vanilla game

[flint crater]

oh wait

lennys mod loader

might actually help

[sleek mist]

ill try that

[tender osprey]

http://www.dev-c.com/rdr2/scripthookrdr2/

[flat python]

Hi, I'm new here, where is the link for HDR Renodx?

[sweet night]

Pinned post.

[flat python]

thanks

[teal pawn]

this makes my game look a thousand times better. although, is there any way to fix the blown out satchel menu and weapon wheel? it's a problem with the vanilla hdr implementation as well

doesn't look this bad when actually displayed on the monitor, but it's still much more blown out than it is with hdr off

[flint crater]

Haven’t run into this issue. Any other mods installed?

Also post your graphics settings. Maybe there’s some specific combination of settings that triggers it

Then I can potentially fix it

[teal pawn]

...many

i'll run a clean install and then report back

[flint crater]

Thanks

[teal pawn]

definitely still happening with a vanilla game. these are my settings

[tribal hatch]

does your display support 2000 nits?

[flint crater]

oh just saw you mentioned its a problem with vanilla

maybe I can fix it

they tonemapping shader outputs in gamma space in sdr and linear in hdr

so some stuff that runs after ends up in linear in hdr

so that might be what's going on there

[teal pawn]

sadly not, it's an hdr400 oled display

[teal pawn]

i see

hopefully that's the case

[stuck lodge]

RenoVK just dropped

I would love to see a Vulkan version of the mod

[flint crater]

The broken decomp is the issue with vk

Don’t know how to fix that

[flint crater]

rewriting stuff

[flint crater]

203 game brightness, 1000 peak

sdr / match sdr preset

[flint crater]

Abandoned DX12 Beta Build 7:

• not very well tested with motion blur off, but still seems to work fine
• not all tonemap shaders done yet
• mod overrides the in-game settings
  Changes:feat(rdr2): overhaul tonemap, sliders, defaults, presets

[teal pawn]

i'm curious, why is motion blur required?

[flint crater]

It probably works without it, just haven’t really tested

Well I tested a little

And it worked fine

It used a different tonemap shader with motion blur off

[teal pawn]

ah, i see

[wet kindle]

is this Vulkan or DX12?

[flint crater]

Dx12

[wet kindle]

willing to patreon a Vulkan mod anytime

[flint crater]

I tried that first but I couldn’t get a working decompilation

[wet kindle]

[fierce thorn]

Damn, a Vulkan version of this mod would feed families😩

[sullen pivot]

I have an Aorus FO27Q3 OLED. These are the specs in HDR:

In Windows HDR calibration, the correct brightness value for me was 470

So is this the "correct" value to put in Peak Brightness in the Reshade Preset (470)? Like, is the rule of thumb to always put the same as we calibrated in Windows?

I'm confused about this since my monitor reaches 1000 nits in small objects on the scene (2% window)

[pliant dock]

👍

[tribal hatch]

then you shouldn't set the peak brightness value to 2000 nits. just use the default reno setting.

[teal pawn]

then what should i set it to? setting it to 400 makes highlights not look punchy enough imo (and also doesn't really fix the weapon wheel issue)

apologies for the ignorance, completely new to hdr stuff

[flint crater]

if you're in true black 400 mode then use 470 or whatever exact value you get in windows calibration

but if you're in the 1000 mode then 1038 or whatever exact value you get

[teal pawn]

i seem to get a value of 2110 with the windows hdr calibration app

i'm not sure how that's possible lol

[flint crater]

probably have some tonemapping mode set on your display

[vestal laurel]

Regarding this piece of info
My monitor have HDR Peak 1000 mode and maximum luminance is set at the same value in HDR calibration app and and some games in Reno set the highlights to 1038 but after closing the game and opening again it returns to 1000 again
Is there a problem? Why is this happening?

[flint crater]

Windows is really finicky with the icc profiles. Sometimes it doesn’t load them at all. When that happens it then defaults to whatever value it finds in the display’s EDID.

[vestal laurel]

So it shouldn’t have any noticeable effect?
Or do I need to set manually every time I install RenoDX?

[flint crater]

1000 vs 1038 is basically nothing but ya just set it to the correct value once on install and you’re good to go

[white oyster]

you should change ur game settings for renodx then, if u only can hit 400 or 1000 nits peak brightness, dont set renodx peak brightness to 2000 nits

[teal pawn]

well like i mentioned, i get a value of 2110 peak brightness during the windows hdr calibration, and i can definitely tell the difference between a value of 1000 and 2000 ingame

so i'm not really sure what's going on there

[teal pawn]

could you elaborate on this, if you don't mind?

[white oyster]

what display do u have?

there could be a monitor setting thats changing the peak brightness or artificially boosting it via tonemapping

[teal pawn]

i have a 27GS95QE-B from LG

have it on game mode 1, hdr on, brightness set to 100, and peak brightness set to low

[flint crater]

Some of the monitor’s picture settings

[white oyster]

hows it look with peak brightness set to high?

[teal pawn]

not very different, let me see what value i can reach with that setting

[white oyster]

might get more ABL but it might fix the weirdly bright highlights

according to rtings its about 1200nits

[flint crater]

EOTF tracking is aids with it set to high

The chart is fucked

High

Setting to low has good EOTF tracking

[white oyster]

ah

[teal pawn]

yeah, i believe i was recommended to set it to low by a reddit post

won't lie, i'm definitely not very knowledgeable about these specifics lmao

still learning

[white oyster]

i think whatever number windows is reporting is a bit off

i dont think your display is close to 2000 nits actually being displayed, it caps around 600 or 1000 depending on peak brightness setting

[teal pawn]

it would seem so

so i'm not really sure what's going on with the calibration

[white oyster]

windows hdr calibration is just stupid sometimes

[teal pawn]

or me even being able to tell the difference while changing the settings ingame

[white oyster]

u have run windows hdr calibration, right?

[teal pawn]

yeah

saved it as a color profile, then applied it

[white oyster]

u should maybe run it again and try lowering the peak brightness sliders a bit and the min brightness slider

idk if the min brightness slider should always be set to 0 or slightly higher tbh cuz i feel like i cant see the image even if its slightly above 0

[teal pawn]

0 is definitely the correct calibration for mine, since i can still see the image when its above

guess it's because my display is hdr true black

but anyway, i'll try lowering the peak brightness

to 1200 then?

i have it set up to 2110 currently

[teal pawn]

LOL

turns out this was the issue

now i'm getting a value of 560 during calibration

[teal pawn]

last question: is the game brightnes value subjective, or should i use something as reference to calibrate it?

[vestal laurel]

@flint crater sorry for nagging you again lol
I had a similar issue to xuru where in windows hdr calibration I had to set the peak to ~1470 for the box to blend in
But I read somewhere that you should calibrate your peak the same as the 2%
Is that correct? I’m sorry but I’m relatively new to this stuff as well
My monitor is FO32U2P btw

[manic lion]

one day musa will bless us with vk rdr2

[rough rose]

You folks are using reflex in DX12?
Found out that disabling it reduces stuttering dramatically

[flint crater]

Depends on if you’re using the peak 1000 mode or the 400 mode

[river willow]

I found it counter productive when playing with a 60 FPS cap. Just introduced micro stutter. Weird thing is it doesn't happen when on Vulkan

[white oyster]

reflex and triple buffering seem to cause microstutter on dx12 in my experience

[vestal laurel]

I use peak 1000 as it’s the only thing remotely accurate on the monitor

[flint crater]

then 1000 it is

seems like people are having issues with windows calibration anyway

guess you can use lilium's test pattern generator shader to verify

[flint crater]

Vanilla HDR 200 paper white / RenoDX Defaults / RenoDX Match SDR

[flint crater]

Vanilla HDR / RenoDX Defaults

[rough rose]

What is happening with near black in the vanilla?

They do some kind of dithering?

[flint crater]

ya

also bit depth is ass in vanilla

since they sample the lut in linear space

[warped mountain]

on woled monitors the peak brightness is basically itm on the white pixel

every monitor does that

low means no extra boost for the white pixel

also LG monitors dont support HGIG, you need to force maxcll with liliums addon to emulate that, or you get roll off highlights like the graph shown

[idle cedar]

what's better default settings or match SDR settings?

[tender osprey]

defaults maybe

[white oyster]

match sdr looks bad

[cyan oracle]

Game crashes on out of memory error while running in DX12 with the renodx mod beta 7 (reshade 6.6.2). Seems to work just fine when I remove renodx.

[cyan oracle]

Btw. to clarify, it crashes when the game menu loads, I can't even get into the game proper, just FYI.

[flint crater]

I had the same issue and it stopped

but I also have no idea why

i've been able to play the game both with and without lennys mod loader

only thing I can think of is that I changed the reshade overlay button from home to end

couldn't do it in game without crashing so I went to the ini

[novel ridge]

For me it only crashes if I change the renodx mode (SDR Mode, ...)

[cyan oracle]

I may try to remap the reshade key, but I think it crashed even without me touching anything.

[slate wren]

just pack an ini next to the mod

[slow hinge]

Hello, i wonder if this is compatible with

https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/6347

?

[slow hinge]

Crashed for me once i tried to run benchmark, i changed the button and it worked. Could be something to do with "home" also bringing up rockstar overlay

Works for me DX12 with motion blur off

maxed out dlss quality preset m

[cyan oracle]

I thought motion blur off might be an issue based on Musa's pin. Also it crashed even without me touching anything.

[slow hinge]

Works for me with motion blur off, but i just played prologue

I also have some mods loaded

[void coral]

Wat mods u using

[slow hinge]

Some mentioned on pcgamingwiki page

Stutter fix, graphic bug fix, load straight into game

"Stutter fix" it just increases buffer size for gpu

1st person animation fixes

Nothing global

[slow hinge]

And flydigi controller software does something to the game that enables its variant of adaptive triggers

[teal pawn]

similar to the weapon wheel, hdr seems to make the credit scenes incredibly blown out

its like hdr breaks whenever those specific screen filters get applied to the game

[old aspen]

I can't get lml to work on dx12 at all

@flint crater where your patreon at for a vulkan port

[old aspen]

unfortunately not

about half or more of the great mods require lenny's mod loader

[flint crater]

tried vulkan but the decomp wasn't working

[wet kindle]

he would become millionaire in no time if he Patreon a Vulkan mod

kinda onlyfans money shit

[old aspen]

maybe Lenny himself can do it

dude hasn't updated the mod in 3 years haha

I would pay his ass too

[old aspen]

I think you may be able to get LML working on dx12 is you don't use any texture mods, but man is that shitty

funny thing is, I thought i had this game modded out the ass (all asi were working) but none of my texture ones were and i didn't even notice haha

game kinda looks good even without texture mods but looks like jaw dropping with

[wet kindle]

tbh Nigeez texture pack works pretty fine

kinda stuck with it forever

[wet kindle]

it's too much of an hustle

LML been working great over the years on Vulkan with very little flaws

[old aspen]

giving up PDO is absolutely crushing

also the euphoria mods

[wet kindle]

love AEM

a friend of mine is working since almost a year to a Reworked vegetation project

got a sneak it's gonna be terrific

[slow hinge]

why does my game works fine with LML on dx12 and with renodx?

is this somethin that does not suppose to happen?

or am i reading the conversation wrong

[old aspen]

you probably don't have LML installed correctly or you aren't using texture mods

it's easy to install it wrong

[slow hinge]

hmmm

[old aspen]

if you don't have this it's not loading any thing in your lml folder

[slow hinge]

its in there

well, i definitely load straight into game with mod

that skips videos and main menu

these are what i use

[old aspen]

yeah man i dunno

[slow hinge]

"works on my machine"

[white oyster]

it works fine, there is just a microstutter on DX12 so most people prefer vulkan

it feels way smoother on vulkan for me, and u cant use high res texture mods on dx12

thats the only real limitation, the high res texture mods

other mods work fine

[wet kindle]

some texture packs make the difference

can't play without it anymore

[old aspen]

which version of lml

and what version of version.dll/dinput8

[old aspen]

it works with Lenny's Simple trainer version.dll instead of the scripthook one

took so much trial and error to figure it out for me

so like none of the new asi loaders work for me in dx12 only that one

[white oyster]

Newest version? Idk why u have so many issues man, LML and other mods work fine with DX12, as long as they aren’t texture mods that need more VRAM than the games default limits.

[old aspen]

its the scripthookni teraction not lmk

interaction

[white oyster]

I have scripthook too… no problems lol

[old aspen]

yeah whoch dll

[white oyster]

Idk who told you mods don’t work on DX12 but they’re wrong

[old aspen]

no one told me that

[white oyster]

Then why do u keep saying it?

[old aspen]

but legit fresh install lml combined with katest scripthookncrashing on load

swotch to other dll and it works fine

[white oyster]

U def did something wrong man, idk what to tell you

Did you download scripthook from nexus mods?

[old aspen]

problems on dc12 are legit widespread esepcially texture mods

[white oyster]

I’m not saying DX12 doesn’t have issues

I stopped using it cuz of the micro stutter and I wanted texture mods

But 90% of mods and script hook work fine with DX12

[old aspen]

well u got it working so I guess its fine i dunno what to tell you it was the dll from scripthook

I got it working*

[white oyster]

Yeah but where did u download scripthook from?

If it was from nexus’s mods, that’s why, that build doesn’t work with Rdr2

U need it straight from the dev-c website

[old aspen]

the newest asi loaders from GitHub (often recommended online) domt work

[white oyster]

Those are generic and afaik not intended for RDR2s , you want the specific rdr2 one…

https://www.rdr2mods.com/downloads/rdr2/tools/9-rdr-2-asi-loader/

[old aspen]

yeah man thats what i fonally got

and it worked

well i got the version dll from lennys simple trainer but its like the same thing I think

[slow hinge]

i think i use this one xd

https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/1472?tab=files

[slow hinge]

it loads asi just fine

[teal pawn]

@flint crater are there any plans to look into this?

[flint crater]

some time this month

[teal pawn]

awesome, thank you

[old aspen]

yeah a lot of conflicting guides online, and ALL dlls work with Vulkan, so there is confusion

most modders just use Vulkan

[teal pawn]

experienced mod author here: use the scripthook v2 linked above, alongside thirteenag's latest asi loader

alexander blade's scripthook works fine too, mostly, but it has some issues with memory pools resetting in cities, which v2 fixes

absolutely do not use version.dll, it's extremely outdated and causes a few gameplay bugs

version.dll's primary function is to enable red dead online assets to be used in some singleplayer mods, which this mod already accomplishes without any issues https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/5304

as for the issues with dx12, i am running many, MANY mods, and have no issues booting into dx12

the game will absolutely crash in dx12 mode if you are running outdated mods with poorly compressed textures though (think whyem's, or big unoptimized upscale mods)

although, i should mention that i've also heard of people crashing on dx12 even when they are running optimized mods, so i'm not sure what that's about

i have an organized modding guide document with some mod recommendations, if anyone is interested https://docs.google.com/document/d/17zuWd0_VE9SBEoa4-Vd3pKaaFphxaqFfoTRTWMstU1E/edit?tab=t.0

sorry for the big spam lmao, just wanted to clear some of the doubts people were having here

[old aspen]

thanks so much man, it's very cofunshing the red dead scene

[valid marten]

i have mods that dont work on DX12 ? lol the game wont launch. all mods are up to date. so yes. some mods don't work with dx12. idk what one it is tho. or maybe its a - these mods together wont work. idk

edit: xurus post above, i just read it. its def the texture mods i have on, tho they are update to date ones.

[slow hinge]

what's this thirteentag loader?

I mean where can i download it

nvm found it

@teal pawn is anything from "fixes" archive can cause issues with any of the stuff i use?

[valid marten]

1. does latest reno posted above work with vulcan. (i was in the game playing but then it crashed while reloading a save)
2. What's the way to get adjusted reno settings to activate. opening pause and map didn't do anything. (reloaded save to try that was when it crashed(could be something else)
   thanks!

[white oyster]

Yeah afaik there’s no way around that, dx12 just has smaller memory limits than Vulkan so the texture mods won’t load

[old aspen]

some texture mods work

i cant get terrain texture overhaul tonwork which sucks as its like the best one

[teal pawn]

yeah, terrain texture overhaul is just poorly optimized

it uses the bc7 compression format for its textures, which heavily increases the memory usage and starts causing spawn issues

and on dx12, it just immediately crashes the game

i've spoken with the creator a while ago, and he's not interested in converting his textures to bc1/bc3 at all

just a shame

[valid marten]

any answer on this lol thanks!

[teal pawn]

renodx is for dx12 only, sadly

[old aspen]

could you just run it through this compression on your own (not saying you, but someone could?) obviously probably couldn't share anywhere publically since it's not your work

it's also like more of these texture packs should have really release 2k (or less) versions which are massive for performance and don't even change the texture visually that much

4k looks better but not worth bugginess at all

[valid marten]

i am looking into this now. i am opening it in OpenIV. gonna see if i an convert one of them to 1 or 3 or 5 depending on what it is

[valid marten]

actully i guess they are already 2k or less on the mod page
"Textures are completely remade, not upscales.
Albedo and Normal maps are 2k.
AO, Roughness and Heightmaps are 1k. (some from main archive are 2k)
Vanilla is 1k/512."

[teal pawn]

yeah, it's just resaving the textures

[teal pawn]

don't use openiv, it's extremely outdated for rdr2 modding

codex has been the only modding tool worth using for a few years now

[valid marten]

nice thanks!

[valid marten]

is CodeX behind some dudes patron discord? thats all i can find

[teal pawn]

unfortunately, yeah

it was up on archive.org for a while, but it has been since taken down

[valid marten]

i got it from the discord 4 free lol. but its called codewalker and seems to only work with gtav legacy/enhanced?
ill look on the discord for a codex
nvm its def a different program lol

[valid marten]

well ill need to pay the $5 fo it. but i think i converted them? just need to repackage them to a .ytd
just open .ytd and export all
put in the texture converter and a .bat that says to Convert only files containing "abte" (Albedo) to BC1 and everything else like normals to BC3.
It does that near instantly.
Then repackage and back in the mods folder.

Does that sound right? and i wonder why he didn't want to do that. will prob take a bit of time exporting (and repackaging?), but not an insane or impossible amount of time.

also are we certain this would allow it to work in dx12? lol

[valid marten]

also it went from 109mb to 91mb (after exporting from the .ytd) comparing the og to converted. back and forth perfectly overlapped. i cannot tell a difference at all. so it would prob lower the file size by about 16.5% if i continued.
12.6GB to 10.52GB (estimate)
also sorry kinda forgot this is for RenoRX lol

[lyric bone]

Hi,

Is the HDR mod properly supported these days? I tried it over a month ago, but I couldn't launch my game; I just got a black screen. I should mention that I don't have any mods installed; I only want to use RenoDX.

Thanks for your help.

[white oyster]

did you change the game to DX12? according to the install instructions, the game requires you to set it to DX12 in the settings, you cant use the default Vulkan graphics API cuz RenoDX doesnt support it.

mod works perfectly fine, its entirely supported

[lyric bone]

Yes, yes, I have everything I need, DX12...
Are you using it on R2D2 RenoDX?

@white oyster

[white oyster]

what version of reshade did you install?

make sure motion blur is off

[lyric bone]

None at the moment, actually. I wanted to know if it was fully supported since I couldn't launch my game a while ago...

I'm going to use the latest addon version, 6.5.2 I think. I don't remember it offhand, but I have the latest one. Is that okay with this one, or do I need a special one like you asked?

[white oyster]

6.7 is newest

that one is rly old

u also need to specificially download Reshade with addon support

https://reshade.me/downloads/ReShade_Setup_6.7.1_Addon.exe

this is the one you need

make sure you choose the RDR2.exe, and set it to DX12 (not Vulkan!)

u mightve installed it for Vulkan by accident last time, it prolly defaulted to that

[lyric bone]

Okay, I'll try that right away then. I'll post a message in a bit to confirm... Thanks a lot.

[lyric bone]

It works perfectly, great!

@flint crater Thanks as usual for your mods 😉

[proven osprey]

@flint crater Thank you so much for your amazing work. RenoDX should be the industry standard when it comes to HDR gaming.

I followed the instructions step by step and it worked flawlessly the first time I launched the game.

[flint crater]

Nice

Some people had crashes

I used to get them too back when I had my old shitty cpu and ran

[proven osprey]

It works great on my PC (RTX 5080 - 9800X3D)

Do you have an idea on when it will be out of beta?

There are some visual bugs here and there but nothing major

[flint crater]

Idk finishing the mod is gonna be tedious but for the most part it works

[proven osprey]

It looks way better than the native HDR implementation that Rockstar did, I really appreciate the work you have done.

I'm new to HDR gaming, recently got this 4K OLED.

[sweet night]

Which OLED did you get

[proven osprey]

ASUS PG32UCDM

Had a 1080P IPS monitor before I got this one lol

What is the best HDR setting? My monitor has both HDR 10 and Dolby Vision HDR.

[sweet night]

Don't bother with DV for gaming, or on Windows in general.

For the settings, unsure. Try asking in #🆘helpdesk and tag @brandoudio

[proven osprey]

All right that's good to know. Thank you

[sweet night]

Np!

[proven osprey]

During the Reshade setup, when it asks which effects to install there will be 2 effects that are pre-selected already. SweetFX can be disabled, do I need to install it or not?

[tender osprey]

Unselect all, just select lilium HDR analysis

[proven osprey]

Thank you for responding. Once i'm in-game do I need to enable any of the lilium HDR related settings? They are disabled by default

[river willow]

Nah, you can ignore those and disable the default add-ons. You just need Reno active

[tender osprey]

Lilium HDR Analysis is optionally recommended

[proven osprey]

Thanks everyone.

[glacial berry]

I love my UCDM. Best mode by far is the HDR 1000 mode with dynamic brightness boost disabled.

HD400 True Black just looks flat ime

[proven osprey]

Do you have the same monitor? I've been using the HDR 400 True Black mode, which one is the HDR 1000 mode?

[proven osprey]

I can select Gaming, Cinema, Console and HDR 400 True Black mode

[glacial berry]

Console

I have the PG27UCDM

[proven osprey]

I did some research and HDR 400 True Black was supposed to be the most accurate one, is that misinformation or something?

Or is it down to personal preference

[glacial berry]

Both have accurate EOTF tracking

HDR400 is a hair brighter in bright scenes, but misses all specualar detail.

I've tried it so many times wanting it to be good, even in day scenes.

It just sucks

[old aspen]

after hours I have a pretyt good modlist working on dx12, if not somewhat unstable

i think i am at the absolutely limit of dx12 unfortunately but i have all the good mods imo

[proven osprey]

I got Cyberpunk today and installed the RenoDX mod. Started at daytime in the desert (nomad beginning) and it looked really impressive to me with my current HDR400 setup

[old aspen]

it totally does and don't be fooled by upcoming qd oleds either

they have the same exact issues

they now have what they call "EOTF Boost"

but it's basically a hack and doesn't fix the dimming problem entirely

[proven osprey]

So I should be using the ''console'' mode instead of HDR 400?

[old aspen]

LG has the better HDR monitors and really have for two years now

color volume advantage is super overrated too

for qd oled

tandem oled is much closer, I think I am going to get the 39 inch 5k2k

LG

[proven osprey]

I just did the Windows HDR calibration with the console mode, it maxed out at 1100 nits. Is that correct?

[glacial berry]

Mine hit 1060

1100 seems like a good roll

[proven osprey]

It hit 1090 for sure but shouldn't I be rounding it up?

[proven osprey]

I am re-doing the calibration and mine just hit 1060 as well lol, it literally hit 1090 minutes ago

[glacial berry]

I wouldn't overthink it and realistically 1000 flat is a likely more compatible value.

[old aspen]

my monitor came with it's own edid

I kinda prefer just using Custom Resolution Utiliity (CRU)

the windows calibration works fine, but seems to be buggy with multiple monitors

[flint crater]

I’ve tried 1000 mode on my Samsung OLED and it looks like dogshit

It dims heavily

Can’t speak for your monitor specifically but I’m pretty sure it’s the same for all OLED monitors

[alpine briar]

can confirm

[sleek mist]

heavy ABL or dim highlights, pick your poison lmao

[flint crater]

400 is fine for me since I play at 100 game brightness

[tribal hatch]

why not 203?

[flint crater]

I find 203 eye searing at night

[tribal hatch]

ahh
do you need to adjust other settings when lowering the game brightness?

[proven osprey]

I did some testing with both ''Console Mode'' and ''HDR 400 True Black'' and I gotta say that the HDR 1000 mode indeed looked like dogshit. I'll stick with HDR 400 True Black

[lyric bone]

I tried, but now the problem is that RenoDx isn't compatible with Optiscaler. I have a washed-out image, unless I've configured something incorrectly? I'm wondering if anyone uses Optiscaler with RenoDx and it works for them, so I know the problem is on my end...

[void coral]

I did in some other games

With SK as well

[lyric bone]

Yes, I use it in lots of games too, but I don't think it's compatible with RDR2. I could be wrong, or it might be my mistake. We'll have to see if anyone else uses it in that game.

[sterile ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

[flint crater]

No

Unless you’re on lcd

Lower game brightness on lcd can look like a soupy mess because of poor ability to show shadow detail

[glacial berry]

Flat image that's just bright for nothing or 1K mapped image that pops.

And it's like 10-15% brighter full screen? For 60% dimmer highlights

I'm an official HDR 400 hater after trying to like it for it's brightness gains in daylight scenes, I just don't see it in practice and by the numbers.

[ocean drum]

hi Lecram , I'd like to ask about the HDR performance of this monitor ( ASUS PG32UCDM ) . What does it look like? I have a Samsung S90D TV with a peak brightness of 1700 nits, and the HDR looks amazing. Can computer monitors offer similar performance to a TV ?

[glacial berry]

I have the PG27UCDM

But Rtings has the S90D at 1190 nits at 10% compared to the 32UCDMs 446

Monitors are still and will be a step down

[ocean drum]

That's true, but I increased the brightness in the services menu.

[ocean drum]

I don't know why computer monitors perform so poorly compared to TVs. I own two TVs, a Samsung S90D and an LG C4 / 55inch , They look amazing in HDR .

[fervent canopy]

Which one you prefer ?

[lilac beacon]

I think it's mainly size

but it seems like monitors are slowly gaining momentum

at least I feel like we're starting to see some progress

if something like gsync pulsar comes to oled monitors that will be hug

huge

[old aspen]

it's not for the WOLEDs especially the new tandem ones

the peak brightness between qd oled and LG are similar, but the WOLED has a much better EOTF curve

[old aspen]

You lose SO much pop in dark scenes though like astronomical amount

A/B test a darker game and my money is that you never go back to trueblack 400 again

I dunno, it's like you are trading the dimmer daylight scenes for "barely better than SDR" low APL scenes

and it's not like trueblack 400 is even that great in daylight scenes

even this game like go to st denis at night the laterns look so much better HDR 1000

[proven osprey]

But what's the point of ''pop in'' if the rest of the image looks like dogshit, @flint crater confirmed this as well. Maybe it looks better on your monitor

HDR 1000 looks really bad on my monitor and DisplayHDR 400 True Black doesn't

[old aspen]

HDR 1000 does not look liek shit on low apl (dim) scenes

it looks way better than hdr black 400 actually

hdr 1000 lanterns pop a lot more looks better in person than this screenshot

hdr 400

[proven osprey]

I believe you but during daytime it doesn't look good at all based on my testing

I loaded into Cyberpunk and the desert literally looked white

And DisplayHDR 400 True Black does not look bad in dark scenes

[old aspen]

yeah you are trading being "Wowed" in darker scenes compared to consistency, how it's always been

purists like Musa probably prefer more accuracy

[proven osprey]

Indeed

I prefer it as well

[old aspen]

but like hdr trueblack makes HDR overall on the monitor extremely underwhelming

[fervent canopy]

The abl is to much on peak 1000

[old aspen]

like it's never great at that setting no matter how dim the scene is

[fervent canopy]

Get extremely dim on day time

On video games

[old aspen]

not every video game, but yes. My opinion is that HDR is most important for darker scenes though

cyberpunk at night etc

[proven osprey]

Both RDR2 and Cyberpunk look breathtaking on max settings + DisplayHDR 400 True Black with RenoDX

[old aspen]

yeah i might try it out

i tested it in doom eternal (a really dark game) and it looks easily 5x worse

[proven osprey]

That game tends to be dark indeed

[old aspen]

yeah so does suprising ones

god of war ragnarok

average apl is super dim on that game

but this year just go with one of the lg tandem oleds and stop worrying about the problem that's what im doing

[proven osprey]

Haven't played God of War since I sold my Playstation years ago before I made the switch to PC gaming lol

[old aspen]

samsung does it on purpose these panels can be pushed

they don't do it for their tvs either it's just monitors probably trying to reduce burn in

[fervent canopy]

Want to do the same but no money anymore and i dont want to work

[proven osprey]

Lmao

[old aspen]

yeah it's kinda nuts but displays are the upgrade path for PCs this year

gpus and ram and cpu are way too much now

[proven osprey]

Which GPU and CPU do ya'll got?

[old aspen]

9800x3d and 5090 haha

[proven osprey]

NICE

[fervent canopy]

5070ti 9800x3d

[proven osprey]

9800X3D and 5080

[old aspen]

yeah luckily i upgraded last year

[proven osprey]

Same

[old aspen]

the pricers are insane now

[proven osprey]

So I've heard

[old aspen]

the lg 39 inch 5k2k will fall to like 1000 bucks or 1100

no brainer at that price

[flint crater]

you can definitely get away with 1000 mode in darker games

like silent hill f

[fervent canopy]

or resident evil 2

[sleek mist]

Trueblack 500 on the newer oled monitors might be nice. The highlights of 1000 are just so nice though

[old aspen]

I can't give them up, if it was easier to toggle the mode on and off...

[sleek mist]

Right now I use tb400 if itm is the only option. If not I use 1000

[old aspen]

yeah it's also just like yeah, when it dims hard it looks pretty bad but the same scene mixes and changes all the time

[white oyster]

highly depends on your monitor

mine has an EOTF boost mode and theres very minimal ABL dimming, and it only applies to webpages in my experience

i never see it in games

[wild tusk]

These settings typically cause clipped higlights.

[white oyster]

I’m more than happy to accept that for less ABL dimming. What do clipped highlights even look like, do they just lose some saturation and look a bit more white? Fine trade off for me.

[wet kindle]

I've tried preset M extensively with RDR2 and I think there are major issues compared to K

Has anyone tested it in depth?

There is a weird effect on trees which makes them less dense

[proven osprey]

Why not use the ''recommended'' preset? That's what I use on every game.

I assume you're talking about DLSS

[river willow]

what issues have you faced? I still am on k at the moment

[wet kindle]

kek bro i'm doing testing I use what I want for experiments

[wet kindle]

try to override M and check the vegetation

it looks wrong, less dense

[proven osprey]

All right brah

[river willow]

Oh i know what you mean. My main issue with l and m compared to k is they've kinda overcorrected. The game has a quite soft look with taa. K kinda cleared up the fogginess. L and M look a little oversharpened for my taste. I have dlss sharpening ingame at lowest on the slider

[wet kindle]

ya but trees are affected in a weird way

It almost looks like thy loose branches I swear

I mean not only oversharpening

[river willow]

Is this with distant trees? Might just be lod shenanigans. I can't speak for my end because I use a mod to extend the lod

[wet kindle]

ya been using 120+ mods broke the game and even LML plenty of times

but I tried with no mods M

[river willow]

weird. I can check on my other pc later. That should be a vanilla game

[twin bolt]

that's the effect of the profile M with trees in some games,
#💬lounge message
#💬lounge message

[wet kindle]

Yes, exactly that!

[white oyster]

M and L preset are both very oversharpened, theyre not made for DLSS balanced, quality or DLAA @wet kindle. you are better off using K for quality or DLAA, M for Performance and L for Ultra Performance

theres also weird boiling effects in RT stuff altho thats not rly an issue in rdr2

i also had a weird bug with M where if the camera was still for more than 5-10 seconds weird black dots would appear and start growing

i think some issues with motion vectors

[old aspen]

Yeah, some games M does look better though. RDR2 has oversharpened DLSS by default I think. I haven't really noticed any Preset M related problems in this game, but I have to pay attention to the trees next time. If you use the "recommended" settings from Nvidia preset K is used for quality and above and that must be why as the improvement is case by case.

[tender osprey]

Rdr 2 sharpening slider for dlss won't work from dlss 3.xx

[stone fable]

so weird. I went to vulkan because i kept getting crashes and was using rtx hdr for awhile. didnt find it as pleasant as reno

tried using reno and dx12 again, now my game wont load

😂 so difficult to get proper hdr like jesus

[flint crater]

ya modding this game is a nightmare

for a while it just wouldn't start up at all for me

now it works

vulkan forces exclusive fullscreen and disables hdr every time you alt tab so if I ever did get the mod working in vulkan it would still be a nightmare to develop

[old aspen]

Yeah I read you need to manually run a program to disable sharpening each time

[old aspen]

it totally is, a guy in here had a good guide though.

Basically each texture mod you use makes the game that much more unstable, and I think any mods that unlock online shit like I have the navy revolver right now and I think it by itself crashes my game

[flint crater]

ya I got rid of mods entirely, maybe I'll add back the dualshock buttons and adaptive triggers mods

I liked using the online unlockers for gun tricks

[white oyster]

i still wanna hold out hope for a vulkan renodx but it seems like more trouble than its worth

[old aspen]

the game really plays poorly imo without the ones that help Arthur not move terrible enhanced player animations

PDO as well

[white oyster]

too bad rockstar cant fix the microstutter

[old aspen]

movement speed complete and the one that lets you run in camp

I think I could probably play with just a few gameplay mods but i keep trying to push it because there are so many good mods (in theory) for the game

[old aspen]

it was really bad for me, but with a few of the performance mods it's much better. Not sure what CPU you are on, but I also had to update my 9800x3d because a windows update broke how 3D cache worked in games

ST denis on horse still stutters occasionally probably can't be fixed

[stone fable]

honestly more of a headache than any bethesda games in terms of modding

[old aspen]

beth is easy now with the wabbajack and collections etc

just pick one you like

[stone fable]

at least now its so developed that you only crash if you're not careful

yeah exactly

[old aspen]

they are 10x better than they used to be because you actually play the damn game instead of constantly modding it

[stone fable]

i remember back then all of the fallouts was diagnosing which mod out of the 30 you just installed was causing issues

[old aspen]

Yeah Fallout 4 Magnum Opus is peak on wabbajack. Probably better ones now but try it out if you're in the mood for fallout

[stone fable]

doesnt help that rockstar hates modding afaik no never getting support there

i did new vegas again last year.

it blew my mind how i never crashed

[old aspen]

rumor on the street is they are releasing dlc for RDR2 this year which I assume will coincide with a dx12 RT upgrade

[stone fable]

until i started installing shitty npc mods that looked nice but broke the game

[old aspen]

They finally put Red Dead online to bed so probably trying to put a dlc out to make a few milly

[stone fable]

goddamnit. this is my first playthrough, and while i like it, i don't know if this game is something id replay until like years after

[old aspen]

The missions really are super linear it's a popular and almost meme worthy criticism of the game but once I heard it it's so true

[white oyster]

im on a 5800x3d and 4080 and its pretty bad, vulkan fully fixes it so im just using RTX HDR for RDR2 now

[stone fable]

^ same except 9800x3d

[white oyster]

thats rare for new vegas, just FYI lol

[old aspen]

like on a chase mission you can't even take out the wagon how you want to, you have to catch up to it and lasso them or wahtever

[stone fable]

i still get stutteers

[white oyster]

even with my premade viva new vegas modpack i crashed 2x in 34hrs of playing

which is rly good but the vanilla game crashes a lot more

[stone fable]

i tried using special k hdr

it looked ALOT nicer than rtx hdr

but it gave me worse of a performance hit

[stone fable]

yeah

the immersion comes from the open world itself

but the missions are classic rockstar

except its slow af in the beginning then it becomes go here and shoot there

[white oyster]

damn rly i find rtx hdr looks pretty good so maybe i need to try special k

[stone fable]

i think it handled the gamma alot better, though it was alot darker

not worth the hassle though imo, you need to configure dvxk thru profile inspector

[rose frigate]

still can't decide between 4k DLAA Preset K or M they both kinda look different but damn even on a 4090 in some scenes it can drop below 60 fps easily with preset M

[stone fable]

What is wrong with Arthur 😂😂

[old aspen]

I kinda think all inverse tonemappers look the same, they do look pleasing to me though

you have to adjust rtx hdr the sliders

[old aspen]

The missions were more open-ended in their older titles that is the irony

like you had a target and could kill them in the street, when they got in the car making them crash whatever

really hoping they took the criticism to heart for gta 6, but i personally think it will be a bad game

[wet kindle]

M has many graphical issues K all the way on RDR2, especially for DLAA

trees branches look bad

[proven osprey]

I wasn't a huge fan of GTA 5 but after seeing what they did with RDR2 (my favorite game of all time) I think that GTA 6 will be amazing

[slow hinge]

flydigi apex controller has it's own adaptive triggers for RDR2

works quite good

[old aspen]

Wanna say to be sure you are using dlss tweaks to manually overwrite the dll because it automatically reverts otherwise

I need to test mlre but didn't realize it was doing that

I saw some crazy ghosting on palm trees in st denis om preset M but realized i was on the OG dll from like four years ago haha

[river willow]

^^ And enable auto exposure. I know model K can get some artefacts without it enabled. Haven't played long enough with l and m to know if this is still needed

[hollow ice]

L and M have forced Auto Exposure built-in

[slow hinge]

@flint crater

https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/2187

https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/660

this is much better, more contextual

THE ONLY SOLUTION TO MAKE VIBRATION AND ADAPTIVE TRIGGERS WORK TOGETHER THAT HELPED ME.

Well, i spend a couple of days to find solution to problem when adaptive triggers work in the game fine, but no vibration even with the game setting turned on. I clicked on every damn button in DSX, firewall and other stuff but nothing. Im currently using windows 11 and DSX + DLC.

1. Go to DSX - Settings - Danger Zone ( red button) - Reset App Settings. ( idk why but it worked for me only when i did that)
2. After you restored DSX, go to Settings - Networking - Incoming UDP - turn ON this option ( Only this option, dont touch outgoing UDP it should be off )
3. Windows defender may block the game's access to settings file, so check windows security log, in my case game lost vibration and triggers when defender blocked Rockstar Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\Settings\ action. ( This action has been blocked by the administrator. ). Allow this action.
4. Run the game as administrator.

In case it matters, my Steam settings in controller tab are:

Vibration - enabled
PlayStation controller support - disabled
Steam input for Xbox controllers - disabled

And of course, DualSense should display in Steam as an Xbox 360 controller

it magically worked for me, so i thought maybe it can help someone else here boysss
Now i fully enjoy adaptive triggers, vibration and all this stuff and its amazing. Thanks a lot to author!

hope I can help someone, wish you all the best!

it works wirelessly

with triggers and audio to haptic features

[white oyster]

i hit 40fps frequently in gta 5 enhanced lol and its fine with frame gen, but cuz rdr2 has no frame gen its a bit tougher

ive got a 4080 lol

[tribal hatch]

you could try smooth motion. although i do remember making it too blurry in rdr2 compared to other games, but it was when smooth motion had just become available. it likely has gotten better since then.

[white oyster]

yeah its fine, i dont rly need it, i can hit 80fps in rdr2 even with M preset cuz theres no RT, but gta 5 enhanced with FOSA and NVE fully maxed out can be rly hard to run

[proven osprey]

I tried smooth motion in KCD2 recently and it looked quite bad

[rose frigate]

in gta enhanced i finished it a while ago i think i was always getting around 80 - 95 fps at 4k DLAA but i only had renodx installed so i wonder how intensive NVE would be and other mods

for rdr2 i decided to use preset M i was getting low 50s in the worst case scenario in strawberry town at thunderstorm weather but dropping the water physics quality slider by one notch was enough to get it immediately over 60 fps lol, overall after testing both M and K a lot i kinda prefer preset M more i just love how clear the foliage looks

[white oyster]

its mostly FOSA that hurts my FPS, it adds thousands of trees and foliage in gta 5 is poorly optimized

RDR2 was when they really optimized the foliage, itll be crazy to see gta 6s level of foliage across the map and see how far modders can take it for fun

[white oyster]

damn i should check my water physics slider

[void coral]

Just curious, is there other games in which dsx is worth using (games which dont have native adaptive triggers / haptic supp)

[slow hinge]

honestly no idea, but they promise to release virtual audio device update that will make work haptics wirelessly on native games just like they do with a wire

current audio capture to haptics is not as precise

[void coral]

Hm ic interesting

[slow hinge]

I guess if you want to use rumble to haptics feature - sure, you can use it in any game

but in some cases the rumble is overwhelming

like i tried baldurs gate 3

and it just shakes

i figured it wasnt worth it

for this game

there should be native haptics and adaptive triggers but they just didnt bother on PC

even some rumble is disabled on PC if you use dual sense, there is also a mod for it and DSX

anyway i still have my flydigi apex 4

YOu can also configure triggers in any way you want in DSX

If you play a shooter and want to simulate recoil - you can do this

but it wont be contextual

[void coral]

Did u try lowering the intensity

Also ig for games which mods were made for dsx giving dsx game info. Dsx works p well yeah?

[void coral]

Bg3?

[slow hinge]

Yes in BG3 they were present on PS5

[void coral]

I see 🥲

[slow hinge]

On PC they just made brand-agnostic controller support

As for DSX mods - yes, at least it works well on RDR2

the triggers are contextual

there is a feedback when you draw and holster your gun

and light bar is also reactive

I wish someone could make a mod for BG3 and DSX 🙁

it generaly plays very well on controller, simply due do clean UI

[drowsy plover]

TBH I tried to use DX12 but the game won't load at all, don't matter any I do hashda
and with Vulkan I have no performance issues either, so what Im using is Vulkan and this mod

If reno sometime would come to Vulkan I would be rlly happy.
Willing to pay for develop if necessary as wel

[wet kindle]

I'm here willing to Patreon it anytime

[wet kindle]

if you Reno guys would decide to make it even under paywall I'm sure many of us would happily pay

[sterile ruin]

its less of an issue of someone willing to do it vs Vulkan still being a pain with the reno dev kit

[void coral]

@slow hinge did u try haptics over BT (For native haptics / adapter trigger game). Just curious

[slow hinge]

Yes for horizon forbidden west - still not as good and precise

Next beta release is supposedly making it as good as native

[void coral]

hm ic , les see

[slow hinge]

It kinda works right now, but you can tell even by swinging spear it's just not on the same level 🙂

the "woosh woosh" thing the controller does in native mode is just more precise

Triggers work on the same level though

[white oyster]

fyi this mod does absolutely nothing for Vulkan lol, the dev only made it work for DX12

[exotic oriole]

hello is beta build 7 the latest>? and any other recommendations for HDR?

[sleek mist]

Dsx duelsense emulation?

Also the trigger mod works great but unfortunately it doesn’t add haptics. Just triggers :(

Still gonna keep useing it though

[river willow]

For vulkan I just use black floor fix 2.2 emulation. Addresses most of my complaints for day time. But it does not hold a candle to Reno when comparing night time

[slow hinge]

Because for RDR you emulate 360 controller, but there is still rumble so it's okay

[slow hinge]

Audio to Haptics that currently captures sound from your sound device and sends it to Dual Sense to simulate haptics

[sleek mist]

I messed around with that a bit but I’ll need to tune it more I think

Feel like it has a delay

[white oyster]

how do u do that ?

[river willow]

Use SDR black floor emulation and set processing cut off to your paper white

[white oyster]

what is that? how do i install it? googling it jusdt shows me stuff for other games

[river willow]

Part of liliums shaders

[white oyster]

did u just add this to ur reshade-shaders folder or did u need to do other stuff too?
https://github.com/EndlesslyFlowering/ReShade_HDR_shaders/releases/tag/2025.12.14

cuz ive al;ready got that part

[river willow]

Yeah enable the specific HDR black floor fix shader and adjust to your setup

[white oyster]

is it normal for it to say (error) like that

i dont think im in hdr mode rn so thats prolly why

[river willow]

^^

[white oyster]

wtf never seen that before

why is it green

@river willow how do u stop the game from automatically disabling hdr mode when u alt tab

[river willow]

I don't think there's a fix. HDR on Vulkan requires exclusive full screen. Alt tab switches to borderless. I just hit alt enter when I tab back in to switch back

[white oyster]

what a stupid game

[white oyster]

Pretty happy with this, looks really nice

Better than RTX HDR

[river willow]

Yeah it brings back most of the colour from the sdr grade.

[drowsy plover]

Oh its that way due reshade process. If you download reshade for vulkan and then load the preset it does work

Lemme take some Screenshots

[restive gulch]

This doesn’t sound right

What monitor do you have and what’s the mode you were using called?

[drowsy plover]

Before the mod - after the mod. Did my best to take them as the issue with alt tab vulkan hdr

Still I would prefer to do try the Reno, hopefully sometime in the future it will come to Vulkan.

[drowsy plover]

If you want I can later try to take a ss on Saint denis night, it is trully a difference, tho as I said I would think reno is better.

Sadly dx12 on my end does not even load the game.

[uncut shale]

Delete files in "Documents\Rockstar Games\Red Dead Redemption 2\Settings" might help with DX12 not able to load

[drowsy plover]

Oh, already tried:(
i think it may be something related to the installation already, but I am playing story once more and already in chapter 4, so preferred to keep it without it

[sleek mist]

I know this game has an issue with dlss sharpening being forced on regardless of the slider. If you override your a newer DLL/preset, I’m assuming the sharpening issue isn’t present?

[sleek mist]

what are the thoughts on match sdr vs default settings? @flint crater

[flint crater]

match SDR is too dark for me

at night at least

i guess you can lower vignette

I prefer defaults

[sleek mist]

most of that comes from the srgb lut encoding correction, right?

[flint crater]

well day time is fine

so its that + vignette

[sleek mist]

whats the reason to replace the games custom lut encoding? does that not fall under artistic vision?

or is that logic only from the vanilla hdr?

[flint crater]

the custom lut encoding seems like nonsense tbh

forgot to check but I'm pretty sure its controlled by the game's brightness slider

its basically srgb gamma but adjusted to use 2.2 as the exponent

i asked pumbo about it and he said it was probably nonsense

all game code is just yolo

[sleek mist]

gotcha

[flint crater]

i imagine they probably made the luts in external software in the first place

and that may have just been using srgb

[sleek mist]

they probably tuned it based on that fucked up lut encoding though, no?

[flint crater]

who knows how they tuned it

I could just always use that lut encoding and then optionally decode with srgb, 2.2, or their custom one

[old aspen]

i've just kinda discovered this

it's like nviida driver lossles scaling essentially

not sure how it compares

[tribal hatch]

i think it's better

i've also read and heard others state the same

[umbral field]

puredark made FG mod for rdr2

[proven osprey]

ASUS PG32UCDM. I used the HDR 10 console mode and I did a seperate HDR calibration in Windows. After loading into Cyberpunk I changed the RenoDX values to the new defaults.

[proven osprey]

DisplayHDR 400 True Black looks accurate and good though

[restive gulch]

oh for sure it will always be more accurate

Console HDR (with DBB off) does not fade colors tho, so the desert looking white sounds like a separate issue

in fact it's the only mode that keeps highlight detail at 1000 nit peak brightness

[proven osprey]

I had DBB off.

[proven osprey]

Yes it's what I prefer based out of the 2 tbh

Someone on Reddit told me that doing pixel cleaning unprompted will make the monitor less vibrant, I didn't know that because this is my first OLED. Is this true? Is there some way to fix this

[restive gulch]

I don't think this is true

[restive gulch]

this is what matters most

[rose frigate]

i have the PG27, i use the hdr 400 mode for bright games and hdr 1000 (console hdr mode) for dark games like resident evil but i wish these oled monitor just have one option that perform the best in both situations, i have an lg c1 55" oled tv that i used for years and the hdr experience is phenomenal on all situation without having to compromise, with one set and forget setting (hgig) and i wish my monitor was like that

[sterile ruin]

real

just need TVs to do 240hz honestly

fuck them cope monitors

[white oyster]

Yes but it needs DX12…. I can’t stand using DX12 due to the microstutter and instant day/night transition

[old aspen]

yeah, I just have never had luck using his mods in combination with reshade or anything else so I don't

I would say probably better to use optiscaler if you want FG

[old aspen]

hmm never heard/seen the latter. It just like instantly goes from day to night in dx12 only?

[proven osprey]

Doesn't RenoDX require DX12?

[old aspen]

it does and it's such a visual improvement that I don't think I could play without it

[proven osprey]

Indeed

[old aspen]

apparently lowering volumetrics to medium fixes the instant day/night pop for the most part

[white oyster]

Yes it does. I no longer use renodx for that reason. Im using lilium fork of reshade with the sdr black floor fix with the games native HDR

[white oyster]

But I like my ultra quality volumetrics

[old aspen]

I haven't directly compared but apparently it only affect like distant sky/fog aka probably not that noticeable

[proven osprey]

Does instant day/night really happen on DX12? I haven't played past Chapter 1 yet with RenoDX

[white oyster]

Yes, it annoys me a ton, but nothing you can really do about it

U can try the medium volumetric thing bry mentioned

[old aspen]

you just run rtxhdr or specialk now?

the base hdr is pretty bad so maybe it is still an improvement especially base hdr at night

[proven osprey]

I'd rather play on the highest settings

[old aspen]

I am not so sure, it's kinda crazy sometimes how little effect "ultra" has on overall image quality

"ultra everything" is more of a psychological trap than anything, I am guilty myself of always needing ultra but to mitigate and immersion breaking bug like this one?

[white oyster]

Ya me too lol

[white oyster]

I use native hdr with Lilium reshade fork with SDR black floor fix

Looks great

Better than RTX HDR

[old aspen]

i've never tried BFF on this game, but the nights are horrible washed out

weak highlights

[wet kindle]

Try to increase slightly the Saturation with the toll to bring back some SDR colors and you are good to go

[proven osprey]

This game on stunning though on the highest settings, I'm going to play some I wonder what this instant day/night looks like

[old aspen]

it was amalyzed by a expert in here or hdr den i think it's essentially fucked

[proven osprey]

I've done multiple playthroughs in the past, this is my first playthrough with HDR. I'm still in Chapter 1

[white oyster]

Idk where to find a saturation slider, it doesn’t exist in the SDR black floor shader and the HDR tone mapping shader doesn’t have saturation either

[white oyster]

When you fix the black floor it’s pretty decent. Ofc it’s not as good as RenoDX but it’s way better than RTX HDR and I really prefer the smoothness and mod compatibility of Vulkan, I’ve got texture overhauls like TTO which look sick, they don’t work on DX12

[old aspen]

yeha i just reread the analysis its bot as fucked as some

maybe ill try it the main problem with texture overhauls is they start nuking spawns @white oyster

i barely have any texture mods cuz i play on dx12 and already see some culling of spawns

[wet kindle]

I tried different tool in Reshade

then I chose one

Need to check the name once I'm home

[wet kindle]

It is but it's not terrible like you can't play with it

I means I did not try RenoDX

[old aspen]

the nights with st denis are amazing woth reno

[wet kindle]

but if you play with Vulkan with some Tweak it's playable

[old aspen]

musa boosted highlights Inthinknor something the neon in st denis looks incredible abd the glow of street lights

[wet kindle]

I'm sure but my setup it's full of mods

And also Vulkan has steady frame time

I'd rather play a smooth game than an itchy one

[old aspen]

yeah i might try it

but yeah the main problem with modding is it ruins spawns

there is a "fix" mod for it but not sure it actually fixes it

[wet kindle]

I don't know few years back I tried to switch to DX but didn't workout for me

[white oyster]

Only if you have too many and override the games limits. With just TTO it’s fine

The issue is unoptimized texture mods that go right over the games default limits which break spawns

[wet kindle]

it's also a bit random bro

Sometimes u Fuck up the spawns for no reason with just 4/5 mods

sometimes spawns were good and I had plenty of texture mods

[wet kindle]

u just learn by trying what are the right mods and game limits

but also sometimes the game breaks

and u are fucked

[proven osprey]

Do ya'll get black/dark spots on Arthur Morgan's face as well with RenoDX?

Here is a screenshot

He even had these spots in the opening cinematic at the very beginning

[white oyster]

Ya that’s why I just use TTO for texture mods

[wet kindle]

u use ILD together with TTO?

[tender osprey]

load game with taa first, then enable dlss

[flint crater]

I used my new galaxy brain tonemap code which is brighter than before

[proven osprey]

Thank you I'll try that out

[white oyster]

What’s ILD?

[wet kindle]

Increase Level Of Detail

[white oyster]

Oh idk I haven’t tried that mod

Ngl I never rly felt like the game needed higher LOD lol

I can’t see stuff far away very well anyways on a 27” 1440p so I doubt I’d notice

[old aspen]

has this been applied to gow rag?

[flint crater]

I didn’t change the tonemapper in Ragnarok, just fixed it

My galaxy brain shit is for taking sdr tonemappers and making them work in hdr

[old aspen]

yeah gow rag is the only reno where hightlights feel dim to me, it's probably my display limitations more than the reno itself

I think you said the game only put peak luminance to a few things, so if you have a lower range display like 800 nit LG oleds its' gonna look off

[novel ridge]

Switch from fullscreen to windowed mode or vice versa

Would it be possible to disable vignette for Vulkan at least?

[old aspen]

mod for that

[wet kindle]

HDR Saturation Fix, you find it in the Reshade list of effects. Try between 28 to 35 in Saturation Amount

[white oyster]

Hmm, I don’t think I have that effect, weird. Ur only using lilium reshade shaders?

[wet kindle]

it's not by Lilium, you should check some other authors, I forgot the name

But you can find more than one actually

[white oyster]

Nice I’ll have to try it

[flint crater]

https://github.com/MaxG2D/ReshadeSimpleHDRShaders

this has a saturation shader

[glacial berry]

They taaaanked my FPS too

Easily doubled my GPU frametime

[river willow]

I had horrible FPS drops using this mod for extended load. https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/3095

But this mod i can run at max with relatively low FPS hit
https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/3751

Still able to hit 60 easily on a 5800x and 3090 at 1440p dlaa and 4k dlss performance. If I do some settings tweaking I can push it up to balanced

[wet kindle]

Well they are actually different

You can even run both

but ILD it really makes the LOD infinite

[glacial berry]

I ran both

I tried it with the other disabled and it was fine

The worst was the maxed out grass mod, I forgot the name

Increases density and lod

[wet kindle]

Imo these 2 together is the best combo for RDR2

[river willow]

interesting. I was going off the mod description for increased geometry saying that it already does what ILD does

[glacial berry]

I'd like to see some screens to see how they work separately and together

Mod author could use some

[wet kindle]

ILD is for details IGL Is for geometry scale

[river willow]

gotcha

[wet kindle]

yes this one, thank u

[wet kindle]

@white oyster try this

[white oyster]

sweet

[wet kindle]

I was going back and forth and around 30 matches SDR Saturation imo

if you install new effects on Reshade remove the ini file manually and install again

Sometimes LML conflicts with Reshade

so better you install again

[sweet night]

Very nice.

Mod applies to SP only?

And what was the performance hit, before and after the mod

[river willow]

ILD at max felt anywhere between 25% to 50% hit depending on scene and ingame settings. IGD felt more like 10 to 25

So at the moment I just run IGD and this mod for pushing lod out. https://www.nexusmods.com/reddeadredemption2/mods/3810?tab=description

[sweet night]

Jesus.

[river willow]

The max setting for ILD is excessive. Normal or high has about same impact as IGD max