Unreal Engine

[tired sparrow]

yeah same

sorry that's what I meant

it's preset L vs RR

but preset L is only slightly better then default denoiser

[warm pewter]

And that is even weirder that mine has the opposite result lol

[tired sparrow]

can you show these garage doors with your preset L

[warm pewter]

on it

[tepid ridge]

I’m able to cap to 80fps with no judder/stutter 😎 my good old 13600k ain’t done yet

[tired sparrow]

no matter what I do this is what i get everywhere without RR

[tired sparrow]

wait

your surfaces are more reflective

you must have cranked up the smoothbias

[balmy sleet]

Yall are crazy for playing maxed on an unreal 5 game the dif between max to ultra is just fps loss

[tired sparrow]

that's cheating because mirror reflections don't really need any denoising

[valid vortex]

Depends on the setting

[warm pewter]

Without it even AOs are boiling

And reflections are blurry

[tired sparrow]

that's not a fair comparison

you removed rough reflections from your game

which removes the hard part for the denoiser

[warm pewter]

I see

[tired sparrow]

those garage doors are supposed to be brushed metal

and you turned them into a mirror

preset L

RR

[warm pewter]

SmoothBias removed

RR is pretty smeary
Plus the ghosting 💀

[tired sparrow]

yeah but it's much less noticable than the constant shimmering and flickering i showed

hopefully we can get 4.5 RR with better motion clarity and sharpness, any day now nvidia

right now RR with RCAS is the most artifact free way to play with any heavy RT or PT

are you sure you are on preset E?

because I don't get that ghosting around the npc feet

[warm pewter]

Considering how heavy Transformer 2 is to run
That probably why we don't see Transformer 2 RR yet

[warm pewter]

Yep

[tired sparrow]

how is your ghosting so bad but i don't have any lol

[warm pewter]

No idea lol

[tired sparrow]

what's your fps

[warm pewter]

It even affect mirror surfaces badly

[tired sparrow]

it probably gets worse at lower fps

[warm pewter]

55-60 Base

[tepid ridge]

Holy f I just did an actually fire dungeon and boss encounter

Story is still whatever but that was nice

I have 0 ghosting btw

[tired sparrow]

you definitely have this though

enjoy the game ❌

pixel peep and tweak for hours ✅

[tulip kayak]

pixel peep and tweak for hours ❌
twerk for hours ✅

[warm pewter]

"feet"

[tired sparrow]

Average NTE Gameplay:

[warm pewter]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hideo-kojima-hideo-clapping--k01KQQXE83PC87BYA85WB4GCZ7Z

[glossy cipher]

should've posted Tarantino

[dusty girder]

in a few months there will be swimsuits

for all the girls

the publishers are smart

release gacha game a bit before summer, have people spend all their money

and in a few months release the summer event

with new characters or expensive swimsuit skins

have people spend all their money again

and then go EOS in a year or so

[tulip kayak]

Their last game

TOF

Is even more jank than this game

And it didnt eos

[dusty girder]

I remember there was a train game

something rail

is that still doing well

and the action game, ZZZ

[visual ice]

It's a miracle how that game still didn't EOS. It was so jank at launch. The game couldn't handle 10 people in the same area doing a world boss. The story was mega slop to the point where they just force the new players to skip 1.0 and I think maybe 2.0 story altogether when starting the game. When they added Ray tracing support with 2.0 they fucked it up so badly they had to remove it and revert the game to dx11 for a few months until they figured out what and how they fucked up

NTE is day and night difference from the slop that the first year or two of TOF were

[dusty girder]

whats TOF

[visual ice]

Tower of fantasy

[twilit lantern]

Is there any way to find out which of these toggles on which setting might fix issues? or just trial and error?

like in general not specific to those lutbuilders

[dusty girder]

if you get a black screen, its always r10g10b10a2_unorm to output size

in any game

[twilit lantern]

well its not a blackscreen anymore, left is comptizione and right is rally, both ingame hdr on

[dusty girder]

does the game have native hdr?

if it does enable native hdr, and disable "Upgrade Path" in reno (and restart the game)

[twilit lantern]

oh wait fuck

[dusty girder]

you can keep native hdr on

[twilit lantern]

yeah native hdr is on in both

[dusty girder]

just disable upgrade path in reno and restart

https://i.imgur.com/ykg5AEd.png

turn that off

[twilit lantern]

yas

on it

it was on by default and i totally forgot about it

this looks more like it 💪

wait why does it look cooked

it looked normal in game

screenshot is fucked

anyway many thanks

especially ac rally looks miles better than native hdr now, can really recommend checking it out

[dusty girder]

native hdr can stay on, just upgrade path turned off

but enjoy

Neverness to Everness -- HDR Mod Installation Instructions

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/557

[jovial wren]

I dodged a nuke upgrading to am5/ddr5 months before the rampocalypse

Since i had a 5800x3d at the time i was also able to sell it for almost as much as i paid for it brand new years ago so the upgrade to 9800x3d was nearly free lol

[tired sparrow]

reshade screenshot?

[twilit lantern]

Yeah I did

[charred solstice]

i'll investiage is the herolight is removable in ue side...some games allow it, some games are custom, and some games are hard coded

but anti cheat...is annoying

[dusty girder]

tekken8 had a seperate shader for a hero light

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/main/src/games/tekken8/misc/herolight_0xE6193B1A.ps_6_6.hlsl#L2195

I actually need to merge tekken8 into ue extened

well its already in except the hero light

the decompilation is super ugly

because its spir-v

[coarse axle]

@charred solstice use our new decomp

we tested it in UE sloppa

and Crimson

more shaders should decomp now

with less issues

but as always you'll want to check disasm for a post decomp analysis

[tulip kayak]

I think he meant using UE cvars and hooking

Not shader side

[coarse axle]

ahhhhh

You as well

I want to see EON in Wuwa

[coarse axle]

[tulip kayak]

Wino had environmental char lighting working

But that only exposed how many light source in wuwu is not shadow casting

[coarse axle]

Grok RE .exe

add shadow casting flags

[tulip kayak]

Soontm

1. Hdr path upgrade
2. Rework grading
3. Brdfslop

[charred solstice]

might try that as well, NTE is super silioed, like they got something to hide.

[west canopy]

it was truly entertaining to be a part of and watch it as it all unfolded. you could really tell it was their first game as a studio, and that they were learning and trying reall hard to make best of it while also giving players something really cool in return (and content updates in 2.0 and 3.0 were actually pretty goated, it was just that... couldn't get rid of that "jank" feel everywhere) but kudos for trying

what eventually drow me away was not the jank but completely insane GREED and power creep. everything got too expensive and store deals and offers were insulting, it was just way too greedy for anyone's taste and the whole "group based" content always relied on 1-2 whales to carry everyone where they were doing 90% of the team damage (by 1 guy) so eh 🤷‍♂️ that was all very very fucked up, but the game itself? it had a lot of nice elements, just like NTE does, now it's just better and i think they learned what was bad with group content catering to whales, and hopefully they learned greed is bad

I personally knew a whale, well a couple actually that quit for similiar reasons, but this one in particular it just happened he C6ed a new char he really liked and in just a couple of months that char became completely obsolete power crept by a new char that was better at C0 you cant make this shit up at that point he was just fuck this

so they removed the full rt and rr options? why?

[valid vortex]

How do I get ReShade to work with NTE? Got a Anti Cheat msg when I tried to run the game.

[dusty girder]

read the pin

there is a step by step guide

[tired sparrow]

they didn't

[valid vortex]

Cool. Ty. Just got back from dinner. That wasn't there earlier. ^^;

[dusty girder]

I put it up a couple of hours ago

[west canopy]

So you can get that back with cvars or did they just rename the options and rr is always on?

[tired sparrow]

i'm not sure what you mean, we were just comparing stuff

[valid vortex]

Was gonna ask if there is any chance for a custom build that patches the game specific lutbuilder. But I suppose that depends on how long the game lasts.

Could be another Endfield...

[dusty girder]

? thats what this does

has custom shaders just for nte (including their custom lutbuilder)

but most of it is just generic ue stuff

[tulip kayak]

stop

stop

[valid vortex]

idk. Was just based off what was in the Noted

[tulip kayak]

that thing was already patched

[dusty girder]

oh that was fixed

spiwar just needs to delete that note

[tulip kayak]

removed that from the post

but like

it doesnt matter that much anyways

[valid vortex]

Man. Fixes 10sec after I report it. That's some crazy response time. XP

[tulip kayak]

i was already writing it out

when you typed that thing out

it just happened to happen at the same time

[valid vortex]

Nah. 100% me. XP

Is the Engine.ini enabling the shitty UE HDR and then Reno is just patching it I assume?

[dusty girder]

sort of

it enables the game to create an hdr swapchain+colorspace

so there are no issues with framegen or anything

and then reno hijacks all the post process

because if I had reno upgrade the swapchain, there would be stability issues + FG would break

[valid vortex]

#WutheringWavesProblems

[dusty girder]

its no different than mods where you enable native hdr in game

[valid vortex]

Yeah. That makes sense.

[dusty girder]

engine.ini is just a hidden native hdr slider

remember to set it to read only!

[valid vortex]

Anyone have good preset values for NTE?

[dusty girder]

should be good outside of the box

[tired sparrow]

60 highlights

[valid vortex]

Yeah it's pretty solid actually.
Some reason / somehow there were sliders set to 60 and it looked weird. After I reset everything it's good now.

RTX 5080 and have to use DLSS Q + Frame Slop 2x in order to use RR. 😆 🔫

[tulip kayak]

no preset

play in default

[tired sparrow]

make sure to set saturation to 98

[tulip kayak]

contrast six seven

jokes aside

[tulip kayak]

this game scales fine with default settings

anything past contrast 50 crushes the blacks

default highlights also already looks disgustingly bright already

[coarse axle]

ok

but why BT 2020 not 50%

?

[tulip kayak]

where is this

[coarse axle]

Crimson page

[tulip kayak]

imagine midfield had this kind of GI or AO

[valid vortex]

Like this? kek

[tired sparrow]

looks too washed out tbh i think you need to increase the contrast too

[valid vortex]

Tru facts

[coarse axle]

Midfield runs at 120FPS locked with DLAA and no stutters

This runs at 35FPS + tip with stutters

[tulip kayak]

smh

[tired sparrow]

peakfield baked lighting

[tulip kayak]

i was thinking

this isn't that bad

94 frames with trash generation

then I remember im on my laptop

1800p dlss instead of 2160p dlss

[valid vortex]

Think I fixed it

[tired sparrow]

yeah that's it right there

real hdr

[valid vortex]

UltraDR

[valid vortex]

DLSS Balanced?

[tulip kayak]

dlss performance

[valid vortex]

So is Blend Factor 100 technically stock?

[dusty girder]

not really, its always been a thing

its just been hard coded

the default value is what it was hard coded to before

[charred solstice]

I set bend at zero and bumped up saturations...

the skin glow is almost all gone, which is good

[hollow lantern]

hello

[coarse axle]

@tulip kayak @charred solstice what did they mean by this?

[tulip kayak]

[charred solstice]

you can get drunk in the game

play in drunken state

also you can steal all their food...

on the price of your pride...

but that's kjust UE stuff

[tepid ridge]

Ok so it’s not just my CPU not being up to snuff right? This shit has me legit looking at a 9800x3d and I’m pissed about it

[tulip kayak]

Not sure what your cpu is

This game with ray tracing runs fine

On my old 5800x

[ebon dome]

I'm fully maxed with a 5800x3d and I'm doing fine

[vernal grail]

This chat is getting rough to read anymore. Lol.

[charred solstice]

it'll pass...NTE renodx is 99% complete, so then everyone will just move on to the next game in the UE-extend support pipeline

with that said NTE was well received, even by non gacha players. So may have some legs...especially if patches break sht...

[visual ice]

Yup basically every guild had to have a few whales that carried the rest atl the one I was a part of did. The power creep really was insane. I was f2p back then and I just couldn't keep up with it. But other than That it really is not an awful game like many people seem to think. I put around 200-300 hours into it and I had fun. 2.0 and 3.0 really were big step ups

[atomic oak]

Is this the latest universal ue-extended renodx release? Does it support all previous titles? Is there no pinned message or git repo getting updated to keep track on your work?

[stone bear]

Saturation on 69 + Highlights on 67

Best settings guys

[tulip kayak]

Peak/game/ui 911

[visual ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[charred solstice]

sadface, i can't get rid of the skin glow, I think it's just something with UE filmic extended that produces a kind of "haze" for NTE. It doesn't appear in UE-HDR, so i'll just chalk it up to a "reno" like effect particular to this game. Back to fake hdr.

[dusk orchid]

@dusty girder the UI in Aphelion (just hit game pass) seems to be stuck at a positively flashbang level 10k nits regardless of what UI brightness is set to in UE-Ext - other than that, it looks pretty good. any idea what i need to mess around with and/or troubleshoot? 🙏

[tepid ridge]

13600K

[ebon dome]

yeah, I'm just using autohdr with lilium's trc fix lol - enabling hdr fucks up too much for my liking

[tepid ridge]

HDR looks great to me tbh

With Reno I mean

[ebon dome]

enabling hdr breaks a few things in the UI that I can't overlook - it drives me nuts lol

[devout grove]

apparently the devs like black crush

[tepid ridge]

Which?

I only sat the remora text being so bright in combat but that’s it

[west canopy]

game brightness 160 - 2000 peak

1 - blend 100
2 - blend 50
3 - blend 0

it feels like a more accurate highlight slider. but it does exactly the opposite of what I like seeing during gameplay (might be unable to see the difference if not on a 2000 nit screen, but if I reduce the blend from 100 I really lose that "pop" and if I could I would increase it to 150 here. increasing highlight slider is worse, because it clips/blows out the sun, but this does not so I leave it 100 here or even more if I could 👍

hotori pic - the interiors problem

1 - defaults blend 100
2- blend 0
3 - blend 50 and reduced game brightness to 125 and contrast to 48

I just have to use option 3 for interiors still (maybe because of RT and thelighting setup) the shadows are too dark and slightly crushy while characters too bright it's just the way the game is

interiors can look so crushy setting contrast to 46 or even lower might be even better if you're using a special profile for it anyway

I just set contrast 45 and shadows 60 here

btw any word on possibility of hiding the UID? (and ping)

[balmy sleet]

Sub to Spiwars only fans

[west canopy]

you can get drunk at the auction event. truly a game of our time

hoyo games don't let you drink in any of their games "because you're too young"

that was always a little silly. glad to see they let you do what you want here

[dusty girder]

I'm going to increase the blend's range

later

[mild thicket]

Is this smth could look into as well?

[dusty girder]

@west canopy @warm pewter I made the blend factor more aggressive when moving the slider, try it out

[west canopy]

oh that's quite agressive. but I like it

so 50 is where the vanilla default would have been right?

and this is blend factor 100 compared to highlights 60:

I really like this a lot

[dusty girder]

50 is the hardcoded value; so yea 50 is more or less "vanilla"

before the slider existed

the idea is you lower it if its too bright

just another slider to play with

[west canopy]

yeah it actually got me to enjoy pushing this to the max to make things more stand out, and it doesn't hurt the character that much, gives them more color instead of washing them out if anything.

looks great very nice during night time, depends how flashy you like your game to be, but interiors + character closeups are another problem I just solve with lower exposure and contrast on the other preset, not sure if I want to reduce this one below 50 even in that situtation tbh

25-50-80

gonna stick with 80 i think

uh yeah what i meant to show here was it can be a bit much during daytime, this is with game brightness lowered to 168

gawdamn, this makes combat effects pop like crazy if you set it max! it's exactly what I wanted!

[dusty girder]

enjoy

[west canopy]

will for sure ty ❤️

the only thing i would change, if i knew how to mod, if it's even possible, reduce the hero lights on characters, it's the only issue that if you set highlights or this slider higher, it will make characters very bright too because of their luts or hero lights or w/e they're using to make them so bright

it's the hair

see this is funny, her hair looks much brighter than the sparkly details on her accessories

but checking heatmap, it's nowhere not even close to the accessories sparkles - but those don't even look bright compared to the hair!

interestingly, the hair is a mix of fully DCI-P3 and BT.2020

[tulip kayak]

Its fake p3 and bt2020

Dont know what to tell you

Had to crank the lutbuilder that way to get the sdr colors

[untold wadi]

Tekken 8 has a hero light shader, maybe it's the same for NTE

[west canopy]

yeah i know, and it was very much needed. the hue/color loss without that was too much

[tulip kayak]

too bright is caused by you using game brightness not appropriate for your room lighting

i just played this for a couple hours

unless you cranked shit up

the game looks absolutely normal

[west canopy]

oh yeah for sure, i had it set higher to showcase how it looks "near defaults", i ussually play with game brightness 120-160 but now with this buffed blend slider i can (have to) go even lower, while keeping combat effects and sun popping out even better

[tulip kayak]

ok

[west canopy]

but i still can't wrap my head around how my eyes perceive that blue hair much (well, somewhat) brighter than the 1800 nit details on the accessories. maybe because of the color or the surface area?

[glossy cipher]

I would guess surface area, not to mention it being it the center of attention

[charred solstice]

it's probably less a hero light shader as it is a completely custom lighting pass, because they excluded the it from the render pipeline (though they appear in reflections, so i'm probably off on that). They add in a custom shader pass back to the model based telemetry data, and it's not very smart in that respect.

I did muck with it a bit, but it just produced nonsense, it's not a light

so you have places where it's super stylized in horror elements and completely non working like sitting under shaded tent.

[dusty girder]

if its WCG in vanilla, its from unreal's ExpandGamut

which we disable

also their curve was done in API, which might create a ton of fake wcg since it wasnt made for HDR

[charred solstice]

@dusty girder I swear NTE-this game is playing tricks on my mind... I swapped to outputdevice=4 and it fixed the funk with reno grading? Is it just my eyes dying or is there a method to the maddness?

[dusty girder]

it shouldnt do anything different

maybe you just got the new addon

[charred solstice]

same addon, i was also playing with reno off, and it did something as well, but I expect it to, due to the 2k nits mode

well it's whatever... fake my eyes fake my mind

[dusty girder]

oh with reno off it will do something

it changes between aces1000 and aces2000

[charred solstice]

yea, that's what i was attempted just to see

[dusty girder]

with reno on it doesnt do anything

[charred solstice]

weird, ok

but now the character skin tone no longer has the fantasy bloom on them

[tulip kayak]

that's because without any addon

you went back to the original lutbuilder

with the washed out colors

that everyone begged to get fixed

[charred solstice]

oh this is with the addon, that's what's strange about something that reno is suppose to ignore.

[tulip kayak]

weird

but if that works for you

go ahead

[charred solstice]

if it works, it works~

[warm pewter]

I liked it when light burn my eyes 🔥

[stone bear]

This game is so cursed

[visual ice]

Big ass update

[sonic vortex]

I got a warning on my account, when I tried to start the game with the newest version of of both ReShade and Reno installed.
I was thinking, since it's on the repository, it would be safe to use.

[stone bear]

Do you use dxgi.dll?

Change to d3d12.dll

[hazy torrent]

and optiscaler is still needed for 4070 ti super
Kinda not at the same time, RR is exposed and turned on, RT is working as i can see full reflections and etc, but raytracing option is simply not there

[stark steppe]

using optiscaler overlay for now, does hide the UID perfectly

🤪

[hazy torrent]

Can you not shadertoggler it?

[west canopy]

Yeah I got it too because of dxgi.dll gotta rename that shit to d3d12.dll.

As is with all of these mods it's always at your own risk for online, but I what I say to that is carpe diem, I will either play it modded or not at all

[stark steppe]

like the devs said in the newspost, the ban system is multilevel

even if they decide they don't like it, not gonna hand you a ban right away for HDR modding lol

it's not even cheating

[supple parcel]

any settings recommendations for Borderlands 3 ? :3

[west canopy]

Yeah I live by those terms too, although it is actually technicaly breaking "their terms". But we've never seen these companies go out of their way to ban their users for mods (and stuff like migoto) the one thing they strictly care about is currency cheating and even in cases where something could have been exploited or refunded they would respond by setting your currency to negative (making you in debt) instead of banning you. Cheating or distrupting in multiplayer games is where account bans are justified, but as always is with these things, it's a grey area on purpose, so they can legally protect themselves for all possibilities, instead of outright saying "yeah you are free to modify the game code however you want" no lawyer would let them do that

[boreal grail]

Trying to use renodx-unrealengine.addon64 for Motorslice. Touching some buttons. Something working but can't change ui brightness or any other setting.

Folowed this guide. Seems working https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/557

[rustic lichen]

So far UE Extended is working out of the box for the Conan Exiles update

I'll check all the areas and see if any new LUT builders pop up

[boreal grail]

For MotorSlice there is bug making some bright spots pitch black unless ui brightnes is max out (500). +Crashes randomly

[rustic lichen]

For Conan Exiles you'll need to disable BattleEye, and make an Engine.ini file here \ConanSandbox\Saved\Config\Windows (within the installation location) and add

[SystemSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

then make the file read only

[rustic lichen]

I checked all the areas. No LUT builders needed for this

it's possible one of the dungeons will drop one but I doubt it at this point

[boreal grail]

R10G10B10A2_UNFORM off fixes black spots and ui if R10G10B10A2_UNFORM OFF.

[tulip kayak]

sigh

[balmy sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-mp4-transparent-color-gif-11114772717737196968

[tulip kayak]

nte - implement separate (lower) brightness scale for characters

[tulip kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-the-frog-disappointed-disappointed-pepe-tired-gif-1482602579291311529

[indigo plank]

when nte hide uid and brdf mcdonalds boytoy implementation

[tulip kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ai-cat-ai-gun-cat-gun-ai-gif-8974484528140508515

[polar crest]

@tulip kayak

what do you make of nte ban message

if u install reshade

[rustic lichen]

did you rename dxgi to d3d12.dll

that's the work around for that

[polar crest]

i'll tell

to gachaslop friend

[covert moon]

im not sure if anyone plays i searched no mentions of either kf3 or killing floor 3 and it IS garbage but oh my god HDR is SO broken too

[tulip kayak]

covered in the guide
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/discussions/557

[devout grove]

still a few places where we get 10k nits

[sonic vortex]

I am having this odd-looking, semi-transparent border around some UI now. Is this expected behaviour?

Another example with the prompts.

[tulip kayak]

repeatable?

[covert moon]

i almost went blind from this image lmao i cant imagine seeing this on the bright wall that are modern tvs jesus thats bright

[devout grove]

This one is part of a UI scene transition which happens at a couple points while doing quests, not sure if there's any easily repeatable ones but some of the other 10k nits UI stuff like text bubbles, and rhythm game are repeatable

[devout grove]

yeah got flash banged a couple times already

[stone bear]

I always had it no matter what I did ngl

Have no idea how to fix it

[tired sparrow]

i get a crash with this version

during verifying resources

last version is fine

[west canopy]

Our hero did not expect this

Oh it's borked for you? But it worked for others?

It verifies resources on every boot, can you make it skip that step?

[tired sparrow]

i don't know if it actually has anything to do with verifying resoures it just happens during that

but considering it works for others

sigh i guess i have like 10 things i could test to try and normalize my configuration

[west canopy]

I wasn't able to test it yet

[tired sparrow]

i could try a different reshade version, disable RR, start with a clean ini

going to just play the game on the previous version for now

[stone bear]

How do you actually force the game to let you enable higher quality settings?

Optiscaler doesn't seem to even see DLSS enabled for me

[tulip kayak]

usentdll whatever the fuck its called

in optiscaler.ini

set it to false

[tired sparrow]

nvm, fixed it

caused by using reshade version from github actions

[graceful elbow]

I dont know much about CPU, but NTE is using my Freq cores and not Cache ones, and it blocks me from changing CPU affinity, probably because of anticheat...how to solve this dogshit

when i tried playing wuwa on freq cores, it stuttered like hell...and NTE stutters too...

[graceful elbow]

Oh yeah I can set NTE as game in game bar dickface

[charred solstice]

Looks spot on perfect now

[glossy cipher]

Time for the 9950X3D2

[graceful elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/phrolova-don't-care-wuwa-wuthering-waves-phrolova-wuwa-gif-2678038395775709334

i wrote cheat engine instead of antifcheat in my og message...fixed

https://tenor.com/view/dented-pepe-dentge-meme-hit-gif-15873918808390144538

im gonna install vencord on new pc too...not having my fakenitro plugin with my fake emotes and stickers is annoying....

[stark steppe]

Install AMD chipset drivers, including the 3D v-cache optimization driver

in BIOS, set CPPC preferred cores to 'driver'

in game, invoke the Windows Game Bar and make sure that 'this is a game' is ticked

[west canopy]

yo brother what, tell us more about that 👀

[vital knoll]

lets you use fakenitro plugin, so you can post nitro emojis

[graceful elbow]

just search up vencord...install it, download some plugins in vencord and profit thumbsupge

it shows those emotes a bit weird for users that only use normal discord, but better than nothing

also some servers will automatically time you out for posting fake emotes because those emotes work like hyperlinks...so you get timed out for spam

but vencord has many useful qol plugins

[west canopy]

Looks good enough and much better than posting a jpg I have to search for that's an entire screen

And if it works for DMs that's good enough too

[graceful elbow]

yep

[west canopy]

Do you always get a link like that or is it just the emoji?

Oh this is not for mobile?

[graceful elbow]

if you toggle this ON, then for you those emotes will look normal even when they are in sentence and you wont see blue hyperlink text

however even without this toggled on if you just post 1 emote without any word, then it shows emote as small picture...so it looks more normal...however on phone that emote will have round edges, like pictures have, so people will know its a fake emote

camellya

see this is just emote, and it looks "normal" enough

text camellya

this is with text

for me it looks normal, because i toggled that setting

[west canopy]

But there's no mobile app? 🙁

[graceful elbow]

there is

its called "revenge"

i prefer this, but there is also Aliucord

it has old discord ui though

aliucord has more sussy plugins though, like autocompleting quests, etc...but discord is banning people from discord quests function altogether if you will use it

[west canopy]

Alright revenge looks good Ty so much had no idea this was a thing

[graceful elbow]

i found about this only like a year ago...

sideeye

youll find plugins for revenge on their discord server...there is channel for plugins and i think you have to copy certain link and paste it in revenge plugin settings and it will add that plugin into your discord

hopefully youll figure it out...there are guides anyway

[west canopy]

It works okayge

[tepid ridge]

Cries in iOS

[west canopy]

Can send just the emoji if it's the only thing you're sending on mobile, but if it's within a message it keeps the hyperlink

[west canopy]

Yeah not long until Android bans sideloaing too, then we all cry

[tepid ridge]

We gotta jailbreak

Break the chains

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

I used to use vesktop but recently swapped over to better discord

Which is injected rather than a different app

Has more plugin variety but it also seems to break more often

[graceful elbow]

yeah on revenge there is no toggle for it like on vencord, however other people on normal discord would still see hyperlink anyway

[west canopy]

It's a life changer those plugins are super nice ty guys

Oooh but react don't work

[graceful elbow]

yeah...that is blocked on vencord too

cant fake this feature camellya

[west canopy]

Makes sense why as these are just jpeg link trickery

[graceful elbow]

for stickers you have to download "freestickers" plugin on revenge, btw

i just use freemoji, freestickers and catbox.moe (didnt try this one yet, but surely it works) plugin on revenge

catbox.moe automatically uploads larger files than free limit to other service

there is bigfileupload plugin for vencord too, but you have to install vencord as dev build
https://github.com/ScattrdBlade/bigFileUpload

[west canopy]

bumping latest version

[tepid ridge]

Changed my i5 to a 9800x3d today and now Everness runs like butter 😎

Also gained like 10 to 20fps. My i5 was killing me

[tired sparrow]

wow nice, that's a huge upgrade

[tepid ridge]

Yeah i gained like 50fps in FFXIV lol

I’m still stuttering a tiny bit in Neverness. But now I know it’s not my cpu and it’s still way smoother than the i5 which was near unplayable tbh

They def got some optimizing to do tho. No excuses now with a 9800x3d and a 4080 lol. If it’s stutters it’s the game

Kinda insane I’m still cpu limited in Neverness with this cpu tho. WTF are they doing on the game thread

[tired sparrow]

on Full RT especially, the BVH structure is really complex and cpu heavy

they can certainly optimize it

they probably won't though tbh

[west canopy]

Only? Without fg that is? How can I be at 70-80 fps with 5800X3D, no fg?

I would have expected more, before your base was like what in the 40-50?

[tired sparrow]

hmm yeah i'm at like 100 on Full RT

with 9800X3D

[west canopy]

I would expect like a stable 100 if your gpu can keep up

Exactly

[tepid ridge]

With FG

[tepid ridge]

Im at 110 when the GPU is not dying

And I can drop as low as 60 when the GPU or the CPU dies

And traversal is still stuttery af with a car

[west canopy]

Can you turn fg off what's your average then?

You really shouldn't need fg with that setup, even I don't use it

[tepid ridge]

But the main thing is camera judder is gone, which means the CPU can actually keep up now and the rest is just the game being rough

[tepid ridge]

At 4K full PT?

[west canopy]

At 4K with whathever the game lets me max out

On perf

[tepid ridge]

What gpu

[west canopy]

4070 ti super

[tepid ridge]

What?!

Full PT 4K 100fps with no FG?

There´s no way

I get that WITH FG xD

[west canopy]

Nah it's like 70 average up to 80s lowest worst drops in the 60s

[tepid ridge]

And a better GPU with the best CPU on the market

Maybe FG is cooked ill try without

[west canopy]

You really shouldn't need it

[tired sparrow]

i mean if you have a high refresh rate screen it's worth using

you just get better motion clarity

[tepid ridge]

Not if it doesn’t make a difference

Neo is getting same perf as me without FG lol

[tired sparrow]

he said 70 average

you said 110

right?

[west canopy]

Maybe we're both gpu bound? But he's using fg I'm not

[tepid ridge]

Thats not my average

My average is probably around 70/80 too

But with FG

[tired sparrow]

while standing still or

[tepid ridge]

And I dip a lot to 60 in combat and traversal

It’s gotta be FG lemme open the game again and try

[west canopy]

That would be funny if we actually hit a GPU bound and 5800X3D holds up here

Is the Ti super actually faster than the 80?

[tepid ridge]

Nah, pretty similar

[charred solstice]

no way you can 4k without FG.. even a 5090d clocked in around 60fps with 4k-fullRT

[tepid ridge]

Yeah I’m having a hard time believing his fps too

[west canopy]

It stays at 60-70 even in balanced preset i kid you not

[tired sparrow]

different areas of the map maybe

[west canopy]

And I haven't done anything special

[tepid ridge]

I get 55 without FG where I am now

Im a random area

DLSS perf

[west canopy]

That's crazy I've never had a dip below 60 what's going on

[tepid ridge]

My guess is you are not using PT

But RT

Those numbers make sense for RT

[west canopy]

As I said what I'm using is maxed game settings no cvars

[charred solstice]

the game hides certain options based on cards

the whitelist be like that

[west canopy]

Oh wtf

That's crazy I had no idea. You think the Ti Super is not on the same list as 4080?

[charred solstice]

4080 does not get full RT

[tired sparrow]

it's 4080 and up

i thought

[tepid ridge]

I do have full RT wdym

[west canopy]

I don't see a PT option in the game. Just SS or lumen

[tepid ridge]

Bruh

[tired sparrow]

4080 and up gets PT by default i'm pretty sure

[tepid ridge]

Yeah

I def have PT

[west canopy]

ok let me screencap the menu

and can someone find cvars for forcing PT or something?

[crimson kiln]

You're not using any of the regular rt then which would explain your performance.

There's regular rt and full rt (which is pt)

For whitelisted cards

[tepid ridge]

RT I get 74 fps same area without FG

[west canopy]

this is what i get.. how does yours look like?

[tepid ridge]

Feels quite better. FG is kinda bad in this game

[tepid ridge]

Yeah you’re not using any Rt at all lol

Mine says Full RT

[west canopy]

why the f would they blacklist my card its just as good as a 4080

[crimson kiln]

Fg is broken in this game. I have a 5070 ti and 9800x3d and my gpu usage never goes above 90% in the dense city areas. It's stupid

[tired sparrow]

there is Lumen Off, Lumen On, Ray Tracing, and Full Ray Tracing

[tepid ridge]

Yeah I’m coming to the same conclusion

I think imma do full RT no FG

I can easily hold 60+

[devout grove]

cpu bottleneck, welcome to unreal engine

[tepid ridge]

And feels miles better

[west canopy]

how do i enable it? not saying i want 50 fps just wanna test. also sorry for confusion caused

[tepid ridge]

Hahahaha no worries. There was something on git that let u enable it

[crimson kiln]

Even in other ue titles fg does not perform this badly.

[tepid ridge]

Google info about it it should be easy to find

[crimson kiln]

Not for me at least

[tepid ridge]

This game is just terribly CPU optimized

[tired sparrow]

i think you can use optiscaler

[tepid ridge]

Like bad bad

[devout grove]

yeah its nothing to do with FG, 9800x3d can do around 60 fps with PT

[tepid ridge]

With a 9800x3d it’s at least decent for me

[tired sparrow]

i get 80-100

[tepid ridge]

Yeah I get that. But it’s stutters at times

[tired sparrow]

but i also have 5090

[devout grove]

well yeah it can go higher at times, but it will drop when driving around

[charred solstice]

optiscaler spoofed to a 4090 works

[tepid ridge]

Do you stutter big time when driving?

[west canopy]

I would ask at this point is it worth it to use full RT/PT? How game looks to you in lumen mode? (Looks just fine to me)

[charred solstice]

the toggle is raytracingquality=veryhigh but I don't know if that'll bypass it

[charred solstice]

you can't afford it? you in 1440p?

[tired sparrow]

my fps doesn't drop much when driving full speed

[crimson kiln]

The funny thing is if I use optiscaler to inject fsr fg with dlssg inputs it actually uses fg properly and my gpu usage climbs to 99% and my fps maxes out. Game has such shit optimization on the cpu side

[tepid ridge]

I don’t drop but it stutters like CRAZY

[tired sparrow]

it does look much better than lumen

[devout grove]

theres some minor traversal stutter, big stutters were mostly the broken shader comp

[west canopy]

Didn't even know it was hidden from me, I'll try it out when I find the hacks

[tepid ridge]

Then why tf am I stuttering with a 9800x3d

[charred solstice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/F7RtIAiB2BQ?si=sxVP2H-cIlGp8HhJ

[tired sparrow]

yeah i don't get any big stutters

now that shaders are all good

[tepid ridge]

Could my PBO curve optimizer be causing it?

[devout grove]

yeah for the most part its smooth having played it a while now

[charred solstice]

It's a difference from lumen...not a huge difference, but you won't get that PT shadowed look

[devout grove]

PT is significantly better than lumen

[charred solstice]

full raytracing shadows...is just another level that can't be done with lumen, for good reason

[devout grove]

lumen is ass most of the time

[west canopy]

Is that why some shadows specially interiors look like crushed ass

[vital knoll]

it's like boiling also in ue5 games

is that lumen?

or lumen GI?

[crimson kiln]

I was dealing with the same thing. I had to either turn fg off, cap my fps, or use optiscaler to inject fsr fg while using dlssg inputs instead to stop the stuttering with fg on for me. If I just tried to play with their normal fg I would get so much stuttering even outside the shader comp ones.

[tepid ridge]

Maybe my shader cache got corrupted or something and that’s why I’m stuttering?

[tulip kayak]

boiling can happen in any game with ray tracing

when you dont have enough rays

or your denoiser is crap

[tepid ridge]

Huh, interesting. I guess i won’t think much about it it’s just the game and that’s it

[west canopy]

No I don't get any noticeable boiling but some shadows look crushed and the water/land borders are cursed

[tired sparrow]

full quality hardware lumen can look good with enough samples and denoising

[west canopy]

There might be but honestly I wasn't paying attention cause maybe there's just not that much RT stuff going on

[tired sparrow]

the problem is devs using software lumen with low sample count

[tepid ridge]

There is in Pt mode lol

[charred solstice]

eh hw lumen doesn't help, and this game is not made with hw lumen. it's only using lumen as a back end for RT reflections

turnng on HW lumen in NTE...is basically like 3% better at 10% more cosst

you can turn off screen trace, but then you lose half your reflections

[tired sparrow]

i'm just saying in general the reason lumen looks bad in a lot of games

is becuse it's all software lumen with low samples and shit denoising

hw lumen doesn't have the light leak either

[hearty nexus]

i don't think it use lumen only for reflections, i see some of the lights diffuse of surface which the RT option doesn't have, but the PT option does

[charred solstice]

NTE lumen looks pretty good as a lumen game. performance is also on the better side of a UE5 game (but then it's 5.6 so they get a tech bump). It's not super good, but UE has a low bar

[charred solstice]

it does, if you turn off hwrt, with RT on, you lose reflections.

that's why we think NTE is a highly modified nvidia branch NTE, it's using all the right areas... the only issue is, non of the regular nvxUE cvars work on it.

[hearty nexus]

so for anything other than 4080 and 5070ti above lumen is still good enough i think

[tired sparrow]

the lumen reflections are terrible

[charred solstice]

eeeh depends, not like you have a choice without spoofing

[hearty nexus]

i mean with spoofing the performance ain't that great on my 7800xt

[west canopy]

I'm glad we have the option of turning that shit off and enjoying a smoother performance instead. Didn't even know I was "missing out" on "true" RT

[charred solstice]

lumen reflection also broken...even if it was suppose a bug that was fixed post beta...screen still won't trace the hero model.

[hearty nexus]

lumen 1% lows is very nice thou on my setup, i heard RT or PT option stutter occasionally can anyone confirms

[west canopy]

does real RT tax the CPU more as well or just gpu?

[tired sparrow]

yes, very heavy on cpu

[charred solstice]

I can't confirm if it works or not, but you can try this to see if menu shows:
[SystemSettings]
UI.ShowLumenSettings=1
UI.ShowRayTracingSettings=1
UI.ShowFullRayTracingSettings=1

since I don't have a non RT car to test it

[hearty nexus]

i just use optiscaler to spoof a 4090

[tired sparrow]

if you add things to engine.ini make sure to set to read-only

[charred solstice]

well optiscaler is the best bet to get it to work, but it's optiscaler

I am guessing a 1440p full RT with 2x FG will be able to go pass 60fps at least

not like most people want to play like that, but even MGSdelta capped you to 60

and people live with that

[west canopy]

I would rather drop input res lower than use FG, but wouldn't that also make RT worse?

[hearty nexus]

FG is iffy on renodx so nono

[charred solstice]

i donno, there's no replacement for near perfect lighting

[tepid ridge]

Oh maybe Reno is messing it up yes

I didn’t think about that

[tired sparrow]

i'll do anything to not play less than 100fps even if i have to use lossless scaling or nvidia smooth motion and sacrifice latency

[charred solstice]

I have seen streamers say they are fine on 1080p full RT, well cause they're streaming

and racers of NTE all play on 30fps native anyway

[tepid ridge]

30fps? 💀

[charred solstice]

so different strokes for different folks

[charred solstice]

yep, fps affects drift and car grip

they're pro maxing lapping you on 30fps~

[west canopy]

lmao sounds like a hota game why am I not surprised

[charred solstice]

TBF almost all racing games are likely using animation hard coding.

something they're working on, but maybe too much for their staff to handle...racing sim's....are a surprisingly tough niche to master.

[cold oriole]

Trying far far west - everything gets a lil washed out. Probably need to do some config changes

[vital knoll]

how to use optiscaler to spoof? been trying it out but i can't see

[north fjord]

link for ue extended addon ?

[vital knoll]

there was a link where you can download the latest UE-Extended everytime you use it

but it's hard to find with Discord searxh

idk anymore there's spiwar link, but other one i can't find

[tulip kayak]

cheers

[vital knoll]

get the latest snapshot for memes::
https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[tulip kayak]

delete yourself

i already pinned marat's post

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[hearty nexus]

https://github.com/optiscaler/OptiScaler/wiki/Neverness-to-Everness

need some trial and error on which filename to use, dxgi seem to be blocked

[vital knoll]

@discord mods: offensiv la Guage

[north fjord]

is it working correctly ?
in game hdr on
addon - ue extended

[stone bear]

I gained like 40FPS in ZZZ by changing Ryzen 7 5700 to 9800X3D

These games are wild

[stone bear]

And my 4070Ti is still underutilized

[thick belfry]

Add-ons are busted
Custom tonemapper or something
Would need a bespoke mod

[tulip swan]

And what’s your native fps with this setup?

[crimson kiln]

Usually hovers between high 50s-60s in the most intensive city parts and when it rains. Outside of that, it'll boost to the 70s. 1440p dlss quality with everything maxed including pt.

[tulip swan]

Thanks. You’re running dlss preset L? Just trying to compare performance fyi

[covert moon]

I have to use FG in NTE to get 165 hz (162 fps target) with PT on on a 5090/9800x3d rig but I bet with dlss perf game will hit 120 with these setting. i push dlss to quality and fg 2x to have 1 percent lows close to 158

[tepid ridge]

Yeah FPS wise you need a 90s card almost for PT tbh

With 80s its decent but then you come into the cpu stutters and yeah, not nice

Is this a gacha game thing? I heard WUWA has similar issues

[desert widget]

What's the current setup for High on Life 2?
I'm trying to use RenoDX UE Extended.

Engine.ini looks like this:
[SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1

Game starts but I just get a black screen with the music playing in the background.

Reno is causing it. Disabling Reno with ReShade on and the black screen disappears.
Reshade.log is not showing any errors regarding Reno so unsure what the issue is.

[desert widget]

Hmm, changing **R10G10B10A2_UNORM **to Output Size fixes it, was a random Google AI result. (First useful one.)
Is this ok to use?

[crimson kiln]

Nah. You can't use preset L with Ray Reconstruction as RR has its own. I use preset E for RR.

[stoic narwhal]

anyone try this on mixtape? can't find gameusersettings or engine.ini anywhere

[thick belfry]

MIXTAPE

On Game Pass, go to %LOCALAPPDATA%\NewMoon\Saved\Config\WinGDK, create Engine.ini and add

r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1```
Save it and set it to read-only

In [RenoDX UE Extended](<https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64>) set resource upgrades to:
- Upgrade Path: On
- R10G10B10A2_UNORM: Any Size

Restart the game

@stoic narwhal ^^^

[stoic narwhal]

you the best

how'd you figure that out? I'm genuinely curious.

[thick belfry]

PCGW lists the save file folder
And I eyed the empty folder next to it and figured out that's where the config files should probably go

[stoic narwhal]

I was so close, found that on PCGW but was lost. Thanks!

[tulip kayak]

\you dont want to use resource upgrades along with HDR path

that guy is doing something wrong

[steel lion]

Anyone tried reno on WILL?

[indigo plank]

oh true

[indigo plank]

Set “upgrade path” to OFF if you’re using ini HDR

[thick belfry]

I was wrong
Correct path is
%LOCALAPPDATA%\NewMoon\Saved\Config\WinGDK

UE Extended defaulted to the SDR path and bamboozled me

[steel lion]

Is this all that is needed for hdr to work? Or does reno need to be installed?

[peak galleon]

reno ue looks way better

[steel lion]

What file is needed exactly?

[peak galleon]

reno ue..

[steel lion]

The extended or the regular one?

[peak galleon]

normal

[steel lion]

Thank bro

[peak galleon]

im kind of shocked the game runs this badly though

[thick belfry]

I use Extended with native HDR
https://marat569.github.io/renodx/renodx-ue-extended.addon64

[desert widget]

That made it looks washed out as hell. Should I not be using the .ini?
From what I gathered the ini enables in-game HDR so I figured it'd be the preferred option

I ended up playing in SDR cause no matter what I did the colors looked way off from how they should be looking

[peak galleon]

yeah i have no idea if its accurate

[stoic narwhal]

It's UE5 with no upscaling, I'm not that surprised unfortunately.

[peak galleon]

also not a fan of the 12fps animation tbh

[stoic narwhal]

Oh I love it, but that was in the trailers, you checked one out before playing right?

[peak galleon]

yeah, just sometimes they have a toggle to disable it

[stoic narwhal]

Ah nah this dev is very artsy, I think they don't like messing with intent

just speculation though

[peak galleon]

well artful escaped performed well but that was all 2D though

[peak galleon]

the intent being low fps animation is somehow good? hard disagree there

just looks annoying to my eyes

[stoic narwhal]

it's to mimic animation?

Have you not seen spiderverse or other animated movies doing it?

[peak galleon]

a movie is not a videogame and vice versa

[stoic narwhal]

Try lossless scaling

might be able to increase the animation framerate that way

[peak galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-thanks-resident-evil4-leon-gif-18406020

[stoic narwhal]

It's not but not everyone has issues playing games with variable framerate

[peak galleon]

ill play the game but im just saying i think it looks stupid

[stoic narwhal]

lol

[drowsy plinth]

Where would I put the lutbuilders for this Mixtape? Created the engine.ini but it's darkened the picture sadly. Apologize for the basic question. 😄 @thick belfry

[peak galleon]

kind of liked it in south of midnight cause it felt like it was intended, in this it just looks low quality

[stoic narwhal]

I loved it in that as well

Maybe I'll hate it too, I haven't played it yet. We'll see soon.

[peak galleon]

enjoy

[stoic narwhal]

No clue, I've never messed with the lut files.

[thick belfry]

Nowhere
You wait for Marat to update the addon

[untold wadi]

addon already includes the posted lutbuilders

[steel lion]

So its fully compatible with Mixtape already?

[untold wadi]

Unless they do custom stuff

[thick belfry]

Well, that's not good
Because it works but doesn't clamp the peak & gamut properly
It also has vertex explosions (might be due to ini tweaks)

[steel lion]

Have you tested the universal/normal Reno? Does that work properly?

[thick belfry]

Outside of the last one it's usable ig

[thick belfry]

Normal reno is SDR path only
I couldn't get it to work

[tulip kayak]

maybe we're missing some slutbuilders

[thick belfry]

I already posted all I've got from the dump

[tulip swan]

Ah right, I forgot you’re using RR. Thanks!

[thick belfry]

Ok, so the SDR path does work in Mixtape, but the cutscenes (with letterbox) are clapped to the game brightness value

So yeah, someone who knows what they are doing needs to look at the game with devkit

[stoic narwhal]

boo

[raw lion]

Window-boxing can prevent "Output Size" resource upgrades from working as game renders at a different size and even different ratio.
Getting rid of black bars should work, or using "Any size" upgrades.

[stoic narwhal]

Any size for the B10A2_Unorm?

also I'm getting this?

well fixed that, either with the any size switch or by getting rid of this from engine.ini [SystemSettings]
r.AllowHDR=1
r.HDR.EnableHDROutput=1
r.HDR.Display.OutputDevice=3
r.HDR.Display.ColorGamut=2
r.HDR.UI.CompositeMode=1

[west canopy]

[NTE] found this mod to reduce UI size in engine. ini try adding this line:

ApplicationScale=0.77```

anyone knows other useful mods and tweaks to try?

[stoic narwhal]

weird mixtape won't go to 4k... odd

nvm not playing that

can't get the game to scale properly at all

[vivid rune]

Instead os borderless slect full screen, this will unlock the 4k

[stoic narwhal]

i did

but it won't rescale to fit the screen

half the game is off screen

i messed with .ini settings and the dps scaling in compatibilty but nothing worked

[vivid rune]

Some people are with same issue at steam forum, they are refunding, hope a fix come soon

[stoic narwhal]

yeah i noticed, sad I have to go there for fixes 😄

[stone bear]

Maybe try UUU5?

And dump the data from there

[west canopy]

anyone knows a hack to bypass the 4096 resolution that's being forced in borderless? (CRU doesn't work because samsung shitconnect box has EDID in read-only)

clanker told me to try this but it doesn't work:

r.SetRes=3840x2160wf
r.ConstrainAspectRatio=1
r.AspectRatioAxisConstraint=1```

[stone bear]

read-only EDID shouldn't matter I think?

CRU doesn't edit anything

It just alters the driver data

but I guess you could try Special K

To change the resolution

[solar prairie]

set display scale size at 100%

for borderless 4k on mixtape

[stoic narwhal]

Display commander fixed it

didn't even have to switch anything

[west canopy]

Basically it refuses any change at all, I tried many times pepeSlop

[thick belfry]

"Any size" upgrades did the trick, thank you

@stoic narwhal @steel lion
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[stoic narwhal]

well was running well, crashed at 4th song, let's see if it keeps doing it

crashed again

[steel lion]

Same here.. Both Mixtape and Will. That shit was so frustrating i almost punched a hole in my LG oled tv. Hope fix come quick.

[stoic narwhal]

Display commander fixed mixtape for me

didn't even change anything

[steel lion]

uh, where do i download display commander?

[stoic narwhal]

great question, I've been using Reshade HDR installer for awhile now.

let me see

https://github.com/pmnoxx/display-commander/releases

[steel lion]

Thank you brotherman!

[untold wadi]

Added default mixtape settings

Limited rgb10a2 to 1920/803 aspect ratio (scenes with black bars)

[thick belfry]

Based

B8G8R8A8_UNORM might not be needed actually

[untold wadi]

Doesn't seem needed yeah

I'll wait till tomorrow just in case

[peak galleon]

no surround sound in a ue5 game

[autumn musk]

so it seems like p3r has been broken with reshade for a long time now...

[cold geode]

Game looks so good now! Thank you!

[solar prairie]

Is it normal for the live action stuff to be capped at game nits even with RGB10A2 at any size? Using SDR upgrade path w/ UE Extended on Mixtape. When using engine.ini HDR and using HDR path the live action scenes go to 10k nits.

[thick belfry]

Pre-rendered videos are treated like the UI

[placid maple]

This has a performance impact (maybe negligible?). Is this needed so that the RenoDX sliders work instantly without restarting the game? Could this be removed when the RenoDX sliders are good?

[solar prairie]

thank you

[buoyant elm]

Keeps crashing for me on scene transitions with this

[drowsy plinth]

Mixtape's performance is abyssmal and playing it with Smooth Motion; however, it crashes constantly. Any workaround for RenoDX + Smooth Motion?

[thick belfry]

What kind of performance are you expecting? I'm getting around 60fps with high preset (87% of 2160p) on 5070ti

[drowsy plinth]

Mine is 44 with a RTX 4090 on 4K in one of the rooms. It's that abysmal.

[thick belfry]

Don't use ultra settings 🤷‍♂️

[drowsy plinth]

That's not what I asked though. Are there any known issues with SM and if yes, the potential workarounds...

[tepid ridge]

Oof that’s a bit rough for the type of game

Should run well above 60 native imo

[shell igloo]

cartoon-looking games can't be demanding?

[thick belfry]

By UE5 standards it runs pretty well
Lumen and nanaite and all the jazz
And character models are stylised but environments are high fidelity
It's a pretty good looking game, definetly not a cheap looking one

[tepid ridge]

Yeahhh I guess fair, they shouldve added upscalers tho

If you want lumen and nanite you cant try to make people do native or TSR shit

[peak galleon]

do you still need to make the engine ini with extended? never used extended before

[peak galleon]

getting crashes just before chapter 7 left lut dumper on

oh wait, still crashes,

[stoic narwhal]

I turned anti aliasing and global illumination down to high and got back 20 fps, didn't notice a difference. 75% of 4k

[shell igloo]

ultra/epic is usually very wasteful in unreal

doesn't change much in the output yet performs way better

[stoic narwhal]

Yeah I just went by what ultra+ suggests, global illumination on epic has downsampling that's unnecessary.

Saves a decent amount of performance just from that

[peak galleon]

cant play it when reno ue extended keeps crashing

[untold wadi]

Something with the game and updated resources not meshing well

[stoic narwhal]

it crashed on me twice but I was able to complete it after that, not sure what the difference was.

[thick belfry]

It happens a lot with UE5 games

[peak galleon]

Hope it can be solved

[untold wadi]

Tried, sadly couldn't.

[peak galleon]

Normal Reno ue didn’t crash afaik so will have to stick to that

[untold wadi]

Does normal reno ue render HDR in the letter boxed sections of the game?

[peak galleon]

not sure

[west canopy]

so how do I force RT in NTE? is the registry hack the only way?

can it be done with cvars?

[dusty girder]

@buoyant elm disable all reshade fx; like make sure when you load reshade it shows that there are no fx

[hazy torrent]

Optiscaler with Dxgi=true

Launcher will have to "update" and swaps the fsr dll tho. If not using that, then can ignore

[buoyant elm]

i didn't even have any shaders installed

[mild thicket]

Also need preset to be Extreme or Cinematic for the option to appear

[cold geode]

same here. crashes with reno ue extended (even without smooth motion)

[cold geode]

it keeps printing these like crazy without stop as well

[cold geode]

this is a weird fix but it indeed helped with the crashes in mixtape

[dusty girder]

happens on my system in all ue5 games

scene change = rip game

so I make sure to not have any fx installed when playing

[sullen solar]

Mixtape still crashing for me with no fx

[stoic narwhal]

Odd I haven't had that issue in any game but Mixtape.

[tame raft]

what's fx in this context?

[vital knoll]

read fx / f-x = effects
probably talking about ReShade effects if you have any

[tame raft]

this addon crashes the game at the start of track 4 (~25mins into the game)

forcing a new shaders compilation fixed the crash at the start

[peak galleon]

it doesn't

it'll keep crashing

[tame raft]

I'm no longer crashing in track 4 so it's fixed for me. are you sure the shaders were recompiled for you?

nvm, the game still crashes but just later in the chapter now instead of at the start, but at least it's after the save so I'm in the next chapter now

[stoic narwhal]

It crashed at the same point for me two times and didn't crash after.

I don't think I changed anything but I'm not positive

[half mortar]

Is there a way to play Mixtape with reno without issues, or are ppl mostly trying to figure it out trial and error way? 😄
I gave up and removed reno for now 🙁 (tried all options mentioned here since it released)

[stoic yoke]

how did u go with this, by the way?

[tame raft]

aside from that crash in track 4, it's been working great

[half mortar]

hm, I got many crashes in track 7 or 8 to the point I couldn't progress..
I set r.LUT.UpdateEveryFrame=1 in engine.ini (read-only), used the file linked above and disabled Generic Depth,Effect Runtime Sync.
Anything I might have missed?

[tame raft]

maybe try to rebuild the shaders? I'm in track 11 now

[west canopy]

is it possible to enable RTGI in NTE without going full raytracing mode?

can someone explain what this difference in frametime graphs means? it's same fps in both (FG on/off) is this why it just "feels" so bad to me? it's not that I get any stutters or drops that I would notice, it just feels laggy... and it's not just about input response. what does this graph really tell us?

I just can't stand playing with fg on because the way it makes the game feel (so I prefer RT off FG off with that smooth frametime graph)

and for reference this is doubling wihout RT so i'm hitting my fps cap - it's still expanded, but not as much

explains why playing with FG under base 60 feels that much worse, it's not just about ocasional drop you will get, the frametime overall is all over the place

[tepid ridge]

It’s not that. The frametime graph is simply showing the generated frames. The jumps you see are 1 real frame and one FG. Creating that seesaw graph. But it’s normal

And shouldn’t feel choppy

[eager lynx]

It's due to how late the fg frame is generated since interpolation needs waiting for the second native frame

Presentation should be smooth as Luxas mentioned but internally that's why the frametimes oscillate

[mild thicket]

NTE honestly just feels like ass camera wise

Camera feels choppy

[west canopy]

it's all good until you turn on FG, it never felt this bad in other games to me

[rough ledge]

seems fine to me

[tired sparrow]

specialK can fix that

even if you set a cap far above the fps you are actually getting, for some reason it smooths it out

i notice it also reduces vrr flickering

the seesaw graph can be normal with FG but there is still a problem with the frame pacing

my game is definitely smoother with SK

[crimson kiln]

Because fg is broken in NTE. At least for nvidia fg. It literally cuts my gpu usage from 98+ without it on to the mid 80s with it on and that isn't remotely how fg is supposed to function. It should increase gpu usage which is why it's helpful when you have a cpu bottleneck.

[charred solstice]

I donno, it's not quite FG, at least after I update streamline. there is frame smoothing going on, but I think it's worse with frame smoothing off, so i have to play with it more

there's some type of camera view culling going on, and it can produce artifacts, is more the issue with the eyes.

I believe the NTE devs is pulling some tricks with scheduling resources in the game, as I can do some thing or even others that spammed the cvars, and it does run better but then the loading starts hitching in the usual UE world partitions transitions.

So it ends up would you have a better experience in combat or out of combat. This is before you may or may not have animation issues like racing

[west canopy]

Interesting. What a mess. I think I'll just stick to lumen mode and no fg, looks good enough and runs smooth

[tepid ridge]

Yep it’s bad

[tepid ridge]

Yeah I’m doing RT and no FG too

FG and PT is just a bad time even if it looks pretty

[mild thicket]

Lumen looks good to me, full path tracing too heavy

But then again it's still heavy for my system regardlsss

[west canopy]

its crazy how playing at 45 feels better than framegening it

like i can actually get 50 fps in most areas, but how do I make optiscaler or nvidia (control panel doesn't work i tried) use lower internal res than what game offers? if it's using perfromance that's only 67%? we can certainly go lower in 4K

optiscaler says i have to save ini, huh?

[tepid ridge]

Performance is 50%

[charred solstice]

Personally I don’t have a problem with fg, neither did laz, who like looks at a billizion UE games. So it’s very much a YMMV

[west canopy]

ah yeah i just found the input res on optiscaler window, it was out of my frame. and the save ini button

i am still getting this warning and i can't adjust anything?

[charred solstice]

Performance is 50% ultra is 33%

[west canopy]

yeah I wanna drop it down to 40 or 30, but optiscaler keeps saying i have external override?

now it's saying this

[tulip swan]

How did you set it up? It was crashing the game for me when I tried injecting it manually, and their software didn’t work at all too

[charred solstice]

Use another of the DLL hooks there’s a list somewhere

[tulip swan]

Ah thanks, I’ll try messing with them

[charred solstice]

Same with obs etc, they all try to use the most common one and end up clashing

Wimmm I think works

[west canopy]

nvm i got it working, but i can't change input resolution? I thought optiscaler could do that?

[mild thicket]

mine works

[west canopy]

Upscale ratio override? I don't see that setting

where is that?

oh i'm blind, found it!

[tired sparrow]

I use the software for global injection and I added HTGame.exe to it.

and I'm also loading reshade with SpecialK too by just putting Reshade64.dll next to the game exe

make sure to run SpecialK as administrator

with PT + FG and SK framerate limiter my game is now buttery smooth

also for everyone with a juddery camera make sure and double check VRR is working in NTE

for some reason I had to go and turn VRR off and on again in the driver

for it to engage with NTE

[west canopy]

I get huge frametime traversal spikes with PT turned on even at 60 fps (50% input res) without fg, is this something SK can fix?

and with FG on I get random freezes in menus and world map its so bad it's not worth it

if FG is causing those jarring drops whenever you switch between menus or sections of the game where it turns off, it's just not worth it for me causing all that disturbance

had a similiar issue in Pragmata menus and some minigames, dropping down to 30s felt really bad so I played that without fg too

and the game would generally never go so low, but it just happens in some menus etc in some games, it completely tanks

[tired sparrow]

enable this in nvidia profile inspector to fix that

[tired sparrow]

what's your hardware?

[west canopy]

wow how is this not a default thing? thanks so much

[west canopy]

4070 ti super 5800x3d

[tired sparrow]

are you at 4k

[west canopy]

game looks almost the same at 720p internal than 1080p on 4K, could almost play like this (almost 60 average base fps), but PT/FG makes it too unstable (would have to look into that SK)

yeah

[tired sparrow]

you are probably running into vram issues

you can easily go over 12gb at 4k PT

[west canopy]

on 16gb card?

it's at 11.7 now without all that crap, so baseline

[tired sparrow]

oh you said super

[west canopy]

yeah but still worth taking a look

[tired sparrow]

yeah idk make sure you aren't bumping up against memory limit

[west canopy]

hmm PT only adds 0.5 initially

with fg it's 13gb total rn

this would totally kill a 12gb card yeah but i think we're fine

[tired sparrow]

what about system ram

[west canopy]

afterburner say 29/32

[tired sparrow]

while driving?

[west canopy]

25 after i closed firefox 😅

[west canopy]

i'll do that

[tired sparrow]

if i drive around for a few minutes it starts going up a bit and i'm hitting 11gb at 1440p

dlss q

[west canopy]

hold up

[tired sparrow]

otherwise yeah i dunno just use normal RT mode

[west canopy]

how is my frametime so stable all of a sudden?

i had jitter all over the place earlier with fg

[charred solstice]

if you use this you should use the corresponding scene auto change detection. or it can produce crashes

[west canopy]

oh now i see

it was the input resolution

it just can't keep up, when you go to 40-50 fps base that's where the jitter is from

with 720p (ultra perf) base 60 my frametime is smooth even with FG

oh this is interesting

swapping back and forth from balanced to performance the jitter is now back

this game man

[tired sparrow]

can you actually feel that jitter though? that type of frametime reading is normal with FG

and reflex

that graph is not actually representative of how the frames are being pushed out to your display

[charred solstice]

there is animation error tracing, but that's pretty normal in nte too

it's a bit different

well you can try
bSmoothFrameRate=False
bUseFixedFrameRate=True
and vice versa

as long as you're not a racer, i think it's safe so far

[west canopy]

yes for sure

[tired sparrow]

as you can see SpecialK is not showing such jitter

while rtss is

[west canopy]

the rabbit hole goes deeper

[charred solstice]

rtss is trash

never use rtss on modern games espeicially UE

[west canopy]

well i get pretty stable frametimes now at 860p tbh if i wanted to play with PT this now feels pretty good. and i didn't even bother with SK yet

[crimson kiln]

How'd you even get special k working in this game? Game can't be launched from the exe. Err well it can but you can't log in.

[tired sparrow]

this is how i did it

if you get a crash right away you can try this in SpecialK.ini

[SpecialK.System]
UseCrashHandler=false

[west canopy]

might not look so bad but it does actually feel bad enough for me, can definetely feel every sigle bump on this graph (driving in a straight line)

[charred solstice]

I possiblity have some cvar optimization for the frame pacing issue that actuallt works, but still testing it. the biggest problem with previous ones is they always end up with crazy 1% lows or hitch loading

[tired sparrow]

do you have vrr?

[west canopy]

it kinda feels like you're constantly being yanked back and forth

[tired sparrow]

and is it functioning

[west canopy]

yeah i do

for sure cause i can see the ocasional flicker