Unreal Engine

[split trail]

noted, what sort of upgrades do you use for the game?

R10G10B10A2_UNORM etc

Alright, thanks!

[split trail]

Can't say I'm having any luck personally. It's all clamped for me on 21:9

Duet Night Abyss

[halcyon mirage]

Even this one : #💬lounge message ?
that's with the lutbuilder fixed (still need to enable bgra8_typeless and rgba10_unorm upgrade)
Though I only tested at 16:9...

Uh no, RGBA10_UNORM and BGRA8_TYPELESS are required

Even then, if you look with lilium HDR analysis shader, it will be locked at 203 nits....
So basically sdr in hdr lol

Need the lutbuilder fixed, the build in the link above has it.
Or build it from the PR I sent in renodx repo

Without rgba10_unorm, it's blackscreen
Without bgra_8_typeless, it's blown out to white
Unless you launch the game as DX11 (for some reason) and it's different
But would still be locked at 203 nits so basically not working

[split trail]

oooh I wasn't aware of this one. It works now!

[olive belfry]

So The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition with RenoDX: UE loses HDR when you take damage and a bloody vignette appears on the screen

[placid siren]

did a new fire? might be some custom SDR only effect

[olive belfry]

This stays for a while and HDR returns when half of the health bar is restored. Got some LUT shaders if that can help

[placid siren]

not new, so the game is doing something custom in non-standard UE fashion

[proud patio]

does the reno build of reshade improve anything over most recent official reshade release?

[digital raptor]

the blood vignette is likely just an UI overlay shader with a saturate in it

could be standard UE

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/src/games/unrealengine/games/chorus/overlay_0x5011999C.ps_5_0.hlsl

for example

or the other overlay shaders I added

[placid siren]

standard UE doesn't do anything to render after tonemapping

probably would mess up stuff like DLSS/FG as well

the lut output is meant to be in display out (eg: PQ in HDR), and the last thing the output shaders do is dither

[olive belfry]

Oh, increasing the UI brightness helps with that. Just like in Biomutant, which also has the problem of HDR turning off when a vignette appears.

[placid siren]

in oblivion

 HandleLUTOutput(_377, _378, _379, _380, float2(_49, _50), true);

    [branch]
    if (!((uint)(bOutputInHDR) == 0)) {
      float _391 = (pow(_377, 0.012683313339948654f));
      float _392 = (pow(_378, 0.012683313339948654f));
      float _393 = (pow(_379, 0.012683313339948654f));
      float _426 = max(6.103519990574569e-05f, ((exp2(log2(max(0.0f, (_391 + -0.8359375f)) / (18.8515625f - (_391 * 18.6875f))) * 6.277394771575928f) * 10000.0f) / EditorNITLevel));
      float _427 = max(6.103519990574569e-05f, ((exp2(log2(max(0.0f, (_392 + -0.8359375f)) / (18.8515625f - (_392 * 18.6875f))) * 6.277394771575928f) * 10000.0f) / EditorNITLevel));
      float _428 = max(6.103519990574569e-05f, ((exp2(log2(max(0.0f, (_393 + -0.8359375f)) / (18.8515625f - (_393 * 18.6875f))) * 6.277394771575928f) * 10000.0f) / EditorNITLevel));
      _454 = min((_426 * 12.920000076293945f), ((exp2(log2(max(_426, 0.0031306699384003878f)) * 0.4166666567325592f) * 1.0549999475479126f) + -0.054999999701976776f));
      _455 = min((_427 * 12.920000076293945f), ((exp2(log2(max(_427, 0.0031306699384003878f)) * 0.4166666567325592f) * 1.0549999475479126f) + -0.054999999701976776f));
      _456 = min((_428 * 12.920000076293945f), ((exp2(log2(max(_428, 0.0031306699384003878f)) * 0.4166666567325592f) * 1.0549999475479126f) + -0.054999999701976776f));
    } else {
      _454 = _377;
      _455 = _378;
      _456 = _379;
    }

    float _475 = 0.0f;
    if (CUSTOM_GRAIN_TYPE == 0.f) {
      float _463 = (frac(sin((GrainRandomFull.x + _49) + ((GrainRandomFull.y + _50) * 543.3099975585938f)) * 493013.0f) * 2.0f) + -1.0f;
      float _466 = min(max((_463 * +1.#INF), -1.0f), 1.0f);
      _475 = (_466 - (sqrt(saturate(1.0f - abs(_463))) * _466)) * BackbufferQuantizationDithering;
    }
    uint _482 = Output_ViewportMin.x + SV_DispatchThreadID.x;
    uint _483 = Output_ViewportMin.y + SV_DispatchThreadID.y;
    RWOutputTexture[int2(_482, _483)] = float4((_475 + _454), (_475 + _455), (_475 + _456), 0.0f);
    RWOutputLuminance[int2(_482, _483)] = _380;

and the bOutputInHDR branch is meant for UE editor (see EditorNITLevel) simulating HDR in SDR (with gamma mismatch to boot) that apparently ships in all games

[olive belfry]

I guess I could play with UI brightness 500, but then there will be too bright screens from time to time. It’s like with Biomutant. Because of one vignette effect I will not be able to play the whole game

[pastel sand]

Aw... I noticed Spacer's Choice being clamped to SDR from time to time so maybe it was this. Although I solved it by reloading the game.

[celest ferry]

what is this whole LUTshader deal?

[olive belfry]

I don't know. I was just hoping someone could help with the issue where HDR turns off due to some shaders appearing on the screen in game 🙁

[celest ferry]

Could we get a chat room for Outer Worlds 2 so it's easier to find those files?

[olive belfry]

I want to play the first game first

[noble grove]

Agreed, would like this

[dusty girder]

@regal kayak yes

there are a handful of games where if you have upscaling off and upgrade RGB10A2, it will glitch out like crazy

but upscaling on + upgrades = no issue

[dusty girder]

banishers has something similar, with a similar fix remove max(0 ) and saturate

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/src/games/unrealengine/games/banishers/grading_0x82B600FF.ps_5_x.hlsl

[olive belfry]

Banishers still not fully working with HDR?

[dusty girder]

it should be fine

[olive belfry]

Because I remember there were issues with it. HDR worked for half the game, but not for the other half. Some people also experienced crashes

[dusty girder]

idk about crashes, but I fixed the other half

[digital raptor]

yea true

[dusty girder]

there is also another type of blood effect in berserker

but thats a bit more complex

I have to actually make a sdr color and upgradetonemap there

[digital raptor]

I just tested the new sliders for the first time, shadows does way too little imo. even if you crank it to 100 you can barely counteract the black crush from for example contrast 60

[dusty girder]

https://github.com/marat569/renodx/blob/08767a728298b129e17a9424273e7be72dc1d352/src/games/bersekerKhazan/godray_0xCB359758.ps_5_0.hlsl#L48

thats a whole ass SMT5 type grading shader

one is used for a blood effect, the other is used for a colored vignette

[digital raptor]

that's really custom then, also had that in raincode

[dusty girder]

I wonder if there is a popular effect unreal store effect

[digital raptor]

maybe I'm too used to the old sliders. I like the new highlights slider tho. shadows just seems like flare now

like if you allowed flare to go negative

[regal kayak]

I second this. I think it looks visually more pleasing in how it adjusts things, but it's just not as responsive as I'd expect, and can cause problems before I'm happy with the result

tbh I think I'd just want gamma but for shadows

[swift plover]

That’s what the old shadows was

Gamma centered around 0.18 instead of 1

[regal kayak]

oh lol

guess I don't know what I'm asking for

[swift plover]

that means its clamping to sdr

those shaders are applying after tonemapping and are either clamping it in the code or they're writing to a texture that needs to be upgraded

[olive belfry]

Okay. I found a mod that makes loading screens in the game darker. That problem is solved. But the map screen is still too bright

[fading belfry]

Could removing the bloody vignette with shader toggle prevent that from happening?

[olive belfry]

I think so. It should help in Biomutant too

[pastel sand]

You checked for new shaders right? I could do so if not. I want to play it as well while OW2 gets ironed out haha.

[olive belfry]

I encountered a glitch in Banishers. When the camera switches during dialogue, there's an extra frame with distorted textures or just a black frame every time. It wasn't the game or its settings, or ReShade itself, it was definitely the Reno addon. But apparently, Upgrade_CopyDestinations=1 helped me

I'm also getting crashes with the DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED error. And that's the game itself, I guess. This is a common problem with this game. I'll try adding the registry key method. But it doesn't seem to be a Reno issue

[olive belfry]

And how can you do that?

[pastel sand]

@olive belfry I thought you were on it already. Guess ShortFuse was asking if a new shader was created?

I think you need the dev build. I did it once. If this is something to check I could do it later.

[placid siren]

yeah, seems out of band (non-standard) UE

[pastel sand]

So if I refresh how to do that shader dump thing you guys could check and fix it?

[placid siren]

it's a checkbox when you had advanced toggled, you can play the game and the moment it occurs it dumbs it. but if a game has a shader compilation phase, it's usually there 99% of the time. if the problem happens and dumping is on, then it's a not a lutbuilder that's causing it. it's a custom shader the game added.

tracking down that custom shader is a pain since you have to do a DevKit snapshot at the exact moment it happens (i have a PR i think in the repo to bind a snapshot to a keyboard key, i need to review it)

[pastel sand]

I used the DevKid once and had to look for some files and copy that. But don't remember it having to be in the exact moment. So maybe it' a different thing. I'll take a look at the first steps now.

I should toggle Dump LUT Shaders back to off I guess right? Does this bypass the LUT or dumps the info somewhere to be checked after? Not sure what I'm doing honestly haha.

[placid siren]

Dump LUT Shaders has no rendering impact, and you can play the game with it on, if perhaps some shader may come along that we didn't cover. but it will chew at your CPU as it inspects everything

[pastel sand]

What I wonder is why toggling it ON would fix some issues as we tried here.

[placid siren]

some issues?

[pastel sand]

The vignette effect clamping all the image to SDR.

[placid siren]

it's fixed by Dump LUT Shaders being on?

[pastel sand]

No. I'ts not. Look.

But you suggested to try that first right? Or I misunderstood probably. haha.

[placid siren]

What I wonder is why toggling it ON would fix some issues as we tried here.

dump lut shader doesn't fix anything. just dumps lutbuilder shaders that we may have missed. but if it's not a lutbuilder shader specifically it won't help. then somebody will have to manually inspect what the game is doing via DevKit

[pastel sand]

#1411800884303626311 message

Like this?

[placid siren]

yeah, the problem is: can you achieve a snapshot while the bad, missing shader is present. if you can pause the game with the missing shader then it's easier

usually that's out of scope for the generic UE mod, because the game is no longer following general UE practices. for example Silent Hill F goes custom

[pastel sand]

The effect stays on so... I guess? Again I'm kind of clueless it'd be the second time I would do this.

[pastel sand]

So if I repeat that process I did for Tales of Arise could it be looked and potentially fixed by any of you wizards? Haha. Or maybe it's a whole other issue. Don't know the intricates of all this tech.

[west canopy]

what's the issue with Tales?

[pastel sand]

#1411800884303626311 message

This. But Akuru swiftly fixed it. Working perfectly now.

[west canopy]

the build he shared works??

that's incredibe. do i need to do any upgrades?

[pastel sand]

I don't know if it was update don the Repo so the one I'm using is the one shared. Did you find any issues or never tried?

[west canopy]

havent tried yet but looks like you guys sorted it out, will be just another game on my backlog I'll regret buying the console version, gonna have to get the PC one now 😂

[granite flume]

Am I supposed to turn on HDR in the settings for Outer Worlds 2?

[rustic lichen]

HDR should be off with Outer Worlds 2 when using RenoDX

[rustic lichen]

hmm, been seeing these NaNs during cutscenes in The Outer Worlds 2

[fading belfry]

I seem to have an issue in bloodlines 2, where during dialogues, brightness caps at what the ui brightness slider is set at, anyone else experiencing this?

[short python]

Could someone help me implement the Outer Worlds 2 file? I installed it but it says that it cannot find the file.

I put it here.

[swift plover]

installed to the wrong folder

its the exe inside arkansas

though i was under the impression that installing to gamelaunchhelper still worked

but the main exe is the win64 shipping one

[short python]

Ohhh wait let me see

[short python]

@swift plover sorry is it
here ?

[swift plover]

Ya

[short python]

I think I tried but

and I had it before as well and could never fix this

[swift plover]

You can drag the other files you installed over

Dxgi and the other reshade files

[short python]

those right?

oh no, not the dxgi I guess

just the lower ones

🙁

[swift plover]

Oh lmao it was working fine before then probably

RenoDX isn’t a shader

It’s an addon

[short python]

Gosh I know it works for people

I had same issue before with Silksong with the error

damn

[swift plover]

Are you trying to install a shader

Or the renodx addon

Cause you don’t have a shaders folder

The installer does all that for you

[short python]

I have this renodx unrealengine addon64 file

which was put by Lazorr here

[swift plover]

Ya check the top bar

Is there a renodx tab

Shaders are irrelevant

Since renodx is an addon not a shader

[short python]

Okay let me see

[swift plover]

You downloaded the wrong reshade

You have to download the one with add-on support

[short python]

OH

Sorry, I am not so knowledgeable with this

[swift plover]

And you can disable generic depth and effect runtime sync

Just uncheck those boxes

They potentially add some performance cost and are unused

[short python]

oh okay will do

okay I reinstalled to the thing I did before with the addon support lets see

ok now I got this

but the actual game is blakc screen

[swift plover]

Ya the instructions are on the renodx install page

You have to set the settings mode slide to advanced

Let me find it

[short python]

I got this

[short python]

Okay I did those sliders

And restart I guess

o it works

God damn thanks a lot man

Is there anything else that I should do in there?

[swift plover]

Set the peak brightness slider to whatever your display supports

[short python]

I got OLED with EOTF Boost mode on

so I set that in calibration to 720 nits

Light sources are flickering ingame now though hmm

[swift plover]

Probably the frame gen stuff

I haven’t used it before so idk the details but there’s another addon called DLSS fix

[short python]

Oh yeah maybe thats what I need to add

I never play with FG but it works well for this game so far so wanted to try it

Any chance you know which one it is?

https://nightly.link/clshortfuse/reshade/workflows/renodx/renodx?preview

[swift plover]

#1413548071987576862 message

[short python]

You need to set DLSSPath= and StreamlinePath= in Reshade.ini

[swift plover]

Just gotta find the corresponding DLLs in your specific game’s folder

[short python]

so this is what I would have

not the same directory though

Damn it still flickers

[olive belfry]

Oops, my mistake. The thing is, I upgraded r8g8 instead of b8g8, as it should have been. So now The Outer Worlds: Spacer’s Choice Edition with Reno works just as it should 😅
Sorry for disturbing you about this game. At that moment I also wondered why I was enabling the second line and not the first one 🤔

By the way, the Wiki only mentions this upgrade for the original game. This version of the game also requires it. But I think the Output Size will be enough, otherwise the videos won't display, although this is just a guess that it will be enough

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390791388748185721/1405487450423431290/image.png?ex=6903dc70&is=69028af0&hm=409148dc86b89f20caa1d61bfb0ac70a74e3b2c75fb6e8f85f6f301e838a7fe0

[pastel sand]

So now the vignette effects does not break HDR?

[olive belfry]

Yes. Now HDR doesn’t go away 😅

[short python]

I can not get the DLSS fix to work

The flickers are not nice huh

[pastel sand]

It's not working for me...

Or do I have to toggle something else?

[olive belfry]

Try also Upgrade_R10G10B10A2_UNORM=1

[pastel sand]

Relaunched the game and it's working now.

Thank you so much for keeping on trying^^

[olive belfry]

I think the Wiki should mention these 2 upgrades for this game

This should be added

[pastel sand]

Why this one as well?

[olive belfry]

Maybe it's not needed. It was in The Outer World discussion

[fading belfry]

Another small issue with Bloodlines 2, when using your "vampire senses" or whatever, as soon as you toggle them off, hdr is "broken" for a few seconds before going back to normal, noticeable in the highlight having a much lower peak brightness, same thing seems to happen during dialogues

[broken smelt]

rip, arc raiders doesn't care about the usual ini hdr method and it's eac

[olive belfry]

Typical thing. You can try enabling upgrades as well. But I haven't noticed such issues in Bloodlines 2 playing with Engine.ini HDR instead of Reno

[fading belfry]

Should i try them one by one or do you have a recommendation?

[olive belfry]

It's usually B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS. But I would just enable Engine.ini HDR

Which I did

[fading belfry]

Thank you, i'll try both later :D

[lucid anvil]

I'm getting this as well. Not sure if there's a known fix atm

[pastel sand]

Doing the .ini trick wouldn't bypass color grading? I'm trying to understand when this happens and when not. haha.

[noble grove]

Same. It's bad!!

Would really appreciate a more complete RenoDX for outer worlds 2

[pastel sand]

Ya. I'm playin the first one in the meantime haha

[granite flume]

Anyone know if Smooth Motion through the nvidia app causes flickering with renodx?

[unique blaze]

Kujlevka
UE 5.2
None of the slider upgrade provide brightness in highlights

[west canopy]

For anyone using UE universal addon (or maybe others too) when the Reno sliders don't do anything and you think you need some kind of refresh/restart/scene change (like in silent hill f you need to open the journal) - just go to ingame brightness settings and move slider up/down and the Reno sliders effects will update, this works on every new UE5 game I tested so far

[short python]

I am trying to use Luxor's Reshade but the LUT does nothing even if I check it on or off and the green tint is still in the game, hmm

[coarse axle]

What is this for?

You have to be aware that the Reshade shaders have to support HDR output

[short python]

Apparently just reinstalling fixed it oO

[coarse axle]

As such most shaders will not work with HDR

[olive belfry]

Okay. Found a new spot where HDR turns off. So Upgrade_B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS really should be at least =2, that solves the problem. Videos still work

[vivid rune]

ARC Raiders is ok to use HDR mod since the game is PVEVP? Thanks

[coarse axle]

Raiders has no HDR

RenoDX / Luma cant be done because of anticheat

Same as The Finals

Nor can you force UE HDR via engine.ini

[vivid rune]

Thanks my friend

[olive belfry]

So yes. B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS should be =3 (Any Size), just like the Wiki says. 1 or 2 solve only half of the problem, it should be both. Videos are broken now, but this is the only way

[lusty laurel]

I haven't noticed SCE ever needing resource upgrades. My GOG copy has been fine without any upgrades.

What breaks, videos?

[broken smelt]

Omg world is so small

[olive belfry]

I'm also playing the GOG version. If B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS isn't upgraded, HDR will clip to SDR levels under certain circumstances. For example, when taking damage or if your HP is below 50%. B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS should be set to Any Size, then everything is fine, but videos won't work, at least not the ones at game startup, which isn't a big deal

[wooden wave]

Sorry a little naive..where do you place these lutbuilder files? any special settings to activate them. For me keeper and days gone both look washed out in HDR

[fading belfry]

You dont have to do anything i think, they are for the modders so they can be implemented in the ue addon

[storm lodge]

@placid siren did you ever end up taking a look at eternal strands?

to be fair i havent check any newer unreal mod versions but i have no reason to think its changed

[placid siren]

i haven't, will try to get to it

[storm lodge]

thanks, i wanna get back into it but id rather wait for proper hdr because the game would be massivly improved by it with all the bright effects

just checked, it is indeed still fucked on the current version

[short python]

Lilyy lmao hi haha

[pastel sand]

What other instance did you say you found HDR was not working?

[olive belfry]

When the heat effect starts

And as for Eternal Strands, there were circles in the sky. Those are the flaws with the UE mod that I remember

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321685184852135967/1394624776416268369/EternalStrandsGOG-Win64-Shipping_2025-07-15_13-14-51_437.png?ex=69053649&is=6903e4c9&hm=725cbee8b6bf3a5f64f200fb175b0738a01e7916fcfebb6f1cf3a2c9360177a5&

[peak galleon]

mod creators need to add them to the mod after editing them afaik, basically you need to wait to hear if they get added

i dont think keeper got added afaik

the users need to dump the shaders for the mod authors to add basically

so turn on auto dump under expert settings, restart game and share the dumped lutbuilders if you want days gone added

[pastel sand]

Different from the wounded effect? The updating the shader output thing you found out does not work for this?

[olive belfry]

It's the same. Helps if you set Output ratio, but then the damage clipping comes back. So you need to set it to Any size, which works in both cases

[pastel sand]

Oh but you already advised to set it to Any size right?

[olive belfry]

If you set Output size, HDR works during damage, but turns off during the heat effect. If you set Output ratio, HDR works during the heat effect, but turns off during damage. If you set Any size, HDR will work in both cases, but the game's startup videos will not work, although the in-game videos seem to work

At least in my experience

[thin bolt]

Anybody manage to fix the light flickers in outer worlds 2?

[pastel sand]

Oh I think you recommend setting it up to Any since the begging and that's what I did. Haha. But I noticed a green screen on the start of the game so probably that was it.

[thin bolt]

dlssfix solves it but causes crashes often

[valid vortex]

Does the general Unreal Mod support Duet Night Abyss??

[indigo plank]

I added the info to the wiki

[mystic sinew]

Seems to me its pretty busted? Sliders are broken where peak brightness kinda works, UI slider controls overall brightness and Game brightness doesn't work. I also noticed some issues with skill effects glitching with the mod active.

[valid vortex]

RIP 😸 🔫

[olive belfry]

Thanks. Although after all I'm not sure R10G10B10A2_UNORM is really necessary. It just came up in a discussion from someone. There's no black screen like in some games. However, it doesn't break anything when it's enabled or disabled

[indigo plank]

Ahh gotcha. It sounded like RGB10A2 was what made it work for @pastel sand based on their reply

[olive belfry]

Maybe it's needed when using additional mods such as OptiScaler or FSR2-DLSS/XESS Bridge 🤔

Which were used by the person who first mentioned this upgrade

[peak galleon]

Little Nightmares 1 Enhanced Edition

the HDR seems to stop when transitioning between inside and outside areas, like the inbetween part
outside is hdr, inside is hdr but the bit inbetween isnt
seen on the bit when you go outside and look at the sea

[storm lodge]

eternal strands has an issue causing the game to be way way way fucked in the colors

if you compare to sdr its increadibly dull

i think shortfuse mentioned something has happening twice, i don't remember

you have to reload the scene when you change it

[olive belfry]

Upgrades don't help?

[peak galleon]

i never know what ones to use but i did have copy destinations on iirc and the R10G10B10A2_UNORM at output size iirc

[indigo plank]

Try and see if it's clamping to UI brightness

[pastel sand]

I'm just using B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS Any Size and it's working so far. Did not encounter the heat effect to test though. Not sure about R10G10B10A2_UNORM have it turned off myself.

[north fjord]

does crash bandicoot 4 require resource upgrade ?

[peak galleon]

went past that section now so cant really test but it did seem to clamp heavily

the game does seem dim in really dark sections when there's no lights on screen, if there's no light, it will dim down to like 30 nits at lowest (normally 200ish) versus like 700 if there's a light

basically if you turn on your lighter, it jumps to 900nits
200ish without

game has a really bad black floor as well, would be good to get that fixed

SDR video but you see what i mean, found another section

[olive belfry]

I guess it doesn't require any of them. But there are a couple of places in the game where HDR turns off for short periods

[storm lodge]

Is anyone aware of the quality of the hdr in layers of fear?

[tranquil lava]

would be great if u could add this, it's PIONER Playtest:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3105890/PIONER/

[north fjord]

The Expanse: A Telltale Series
does it require upgrades, shadows look crushed

[north fjord]

@dusty girder how do you know which upgrade to toggle. And in renodx page, some says work out of the box, but some says nothing, do they also work without upgrade toggle ?

[dusty girder]

you play around with them

unreal games are usually B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS and/or R10G10B10A2_UNORM

remember to restart the game

if the game doesnt go above game nits, it needs upgrades

[peak galleon]

is there a better place to post .cso's so they don't get lost in this channel?

[livid scarab]

Am I allowed to ask for help here? I used this for Outer Worlds 2, installed reshade and plopped this file into the directory with DXGI file. When I load the game I get a black screen which I know is common but when I press home to go into the settings the Renodx tab isn't present next to the others (should be next to the about section as it is for other people i've looked at on youtube)

[halcyon mirage]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/pull/433
Oh missing the one you sent, should add it

[halcyon mirage]

& @mystic sinew
You need this PR ^
and upgrade R10G10B10A2_UNORM and B8G8R8A8_TYPELESS
see #💬lounge message for a build

Updating the PR rn

[peak galleon]

this needs adding too afaik

[halcyon mirage]

@short wedge @valid vortex @mystic sinew @coarse axle @mild thicket
[Here a new version for Duet Night Abyss](#1411800884303626311 message), I had missed 2 lutbuilders
I updated the PR, hopefully we can ask ShortFuse to merge it once you tested it a bit more ?

pmnox should be able to test the areas where these are used, as he found them 😅
For me, they compile fine and the game is unclamped in the first area

[mild thicket]

oh shoot wasnt aware it was being worked on still

I did notice with the one I'm using some parts of the UI clamp the image

[halcyon mirage]

The character screen was clipping/blown out to white, but only in specific areas or scenarios, now I don't know if it's fixed

[mild thicket]

yeah

also when you level up it has a clamped square box

[halcyon mirage]

Though I played 2-3 hours with the earlier version and it was never clamped anywhere else

[mild thicket]

altho that's minimal

[halcyon mirage]

Could be an issue with the upgrades, idk

Let me add the auto-upgrades, will be easier for people

yeah, these two to output size, or output ratio ?

output size seems enough and as good, idk if ratio makes sense for dlss or unrelated

when testing I upgraded everything to ratio (except texture destination) and the only thing it was breaking was metallic reflections on armor or smth

Duet Night Abyss (PR here)

• Added two missed lutbuilders
• Added auto-upgrades required (to output size)

vanilla (off) / renodx (default post-processing, 1000 peak nits, 100 UI nits)
Besides VFX, doesn't get that bright it seems (though you can just increase highlights slider)
In other areas it makes clouds finally look decent

[valid vortex]

Something ain't right with MC's cape

[valid vortex]

Anyone else get that bug/error?

[mystic sinew]

having a similar problem but its appearing on guns in the armoury screen. also a problem with the MC's cape being very shiny

[halcyon mirage]

Like lines that moves depending on camera angle with the mesh ?

I had this when I enabled too many upgrades, but here the upgrades are the same as before, hmm.
Is it not here with the older build ? (Well I deleted it from here, crap)

[halcyon mirage]

The gray lines on the torso too, they shouldn't be here, and they also move around, right ?

Maybe try to delete your reshade.ini
As if the auto upgrade now would upgrade them twice if you already manually enabled them earlier
Otherwise I will check later

[mystic sinew]

Kinda? It's like a grainy/noise effect on all the weapons in the armoury screen. I just checked and it happens to melee weapons as well.

[valid vortex]

Yes, it shimmers/moves.

[valid vortex]

I never used it until the latest version that already had the upgrade. Didn't even have ReShade installed until latest build.

[halcyon mirage]

I don't really play the game soo a bit lazy to debug :/
I could try to remove one lutbuilder after the other and test, but besides that...

Try to change the two upgrades to aspect ratio.
Or disable one of them, or enable another one like rgba8 typeless

[valid vortex]

Can I change those in realtime or do I have to restart?

[valid vortex]

Setting this one to Off seems to have fixed the issue.

[halcyon mirage]

Interesting, before (with only 1 lutbuilder fixed) without this one clouds and tons of stuff would be blown out to pure white lol

[valid vortex]

It fixed the cape reflective texture issue. But I don't think the clouds are supposed to be like this.

[halcyon mirage]

hmm, yeah right it's still needed then like I said

@mystic sinew @valid vortex What your game settings look like ? and it happens in a specific area ?
Because I can't reproduce the issue

[valid vortex]

I actually don't know why my settings were on that. This game does weird shit.

[halcyon mirage]

Ah, I also have the issue when I disable DLSS-SR
Pretty sure changing one of the upgrade to "output aspect ratio" will fix that

[valid vortex]

Weird how that affects it like that

[halcyon mirage]

Huh, I changed rgba8 typeless to aspect ratio, and no it even happens with dlss

[valid vortex]

Am on DLAA with these settings now. and the reflective textures are borked

[halcyon mirage]

dlss perf with output size was working fine for me
At least when I loaded into the city

tried rgba10a2 to output ratio, doesn't help...

[mystic sinew]

these are my game settings

[valid vortex]

RGBA8 to Output size might be working?

[halcyon mirage]

can you try dlss perf or quality

[mystic sinew]

And here's the issue shown with default mod settings, minus a slight tweak to peak brightness

[halcyon mirage]

Weird it happens only to weapons for you

[halcyon mirage]

I get this without bgra8_typeless upgrade :/
and rgba8_typeless upgrade seem to not do anything

[valid vortex]

Seems to work with default upgrades on DLSS Q

[mystic sinew]

okay yeah, the issue is gone when changing dlss to performance/quality

[halcyon mirage]

yeah it works with dlss doing scaling, so not dlaa, and not native

[valid vortex]

That is on DLSSP/Q right?

[halcyon mirage]

either way, it happens always even with dlaa or native

it stop at 100 nits

[valid vortex]

Odd. So DLSS SR needs different upgrades than AA or Native then?

[halcyon mirage]

Let me try tons of upgrade to aspect ratio lol

[halcyon mirage]

No, DLSS need two upgrades, and DLAA/native never work fine

[valid vortex]

Did you try changing to THIS when using DLAA?

Cause that fixes the textures for me on DLAA

[halcyon mirage]

yes #1411800884303626311 message

[valid vortex]

What version of ReShade you on?

[halcyon mirage]

6.6.2

[valid vortex]

k. Hmmm...

[halcyon mirage]

seems broken here tbh...

Check with HDR analysis shader, your sky seems stuck at 100nits

[valid vortex]

That wasn't an HDR screenshot

[halcyon mirage]

With DLAA, completely broken without bgra8_typeless upgraded to output size
Peak nits is stuck at UI nits

[valid vortex]

Yeah, your right.
So it's broken either way. Just different...

Though yours is worse than mine for some reason

[halcyon mirage]

I have UI to 100 nits, that's why

[valid vortex]

Might be because your peak is higher. idk. Probably doesn't matter.

Ah

[halcyon mirage]

I don't see any new lutbuilders when running at DLAA or native
I have no idea how to troubleshoot this further, I already tried tons of different upgrades combos

A workaround would be to use the -2 pixels DLAA hack, maybe
I know SpecialK can do this, maybe with nvidia inspector or dlss tweaks

[valid vortex]

Would help if I had any idea what I was doing. ^^;

[halcyon mirage]

Any idea what is causing this bug, when not using DLSS ? @short wedge @placid siren 😅
Duet Night Abyss, UE4

BGRA8_TYPELESS & RGB10A2: output size -> work fine with DLSS, but broken with DLAA or native
BGRA8_TYPELESS: output ratio -> always broken (DLSS, DLAA, native all broken, but highlights work fine, not stuck at UI nits like below)
BGRA8_TYPELESS: no upgrade -> highlights stuck at UI nits
RGB10A2: no upgrade -> black screen

I also tried tons of other upgrades combos, but can't seem to find a way to fix this when using DLAA/native 😔

[dusty girder]

a bunch of UE games with RenoDX-UE have issues with black artifacts at native res

but DLSS 99% works just fine

[valid vortex]

I can't even get Scaling override working in this game for some reason...
Can changed the Preset & override the .dll. But the scale won't override. odd

[valid vortex]

The issue wasn't that DLAA didn't work. It was that there are visual artifacts caused by Reno interacting with DLAA/Native.

[valid vortex]

Any hope for a fix??

[sturdy wraith]

Anyway to run ghostrunner in dx12 with RT and Reno?

[mellow ingot]

High seas Gears 5 that works with reshade (I'm also an ultimate Gamepass subscriber...) just shows the Unreal Engine black screen, and changing R10G10B10A2_UNORM to output size doesn't fix it.

Anyone else had luck with something else?

[swift plover]

probably custom

[halcyon mirage]

Hmm that's sad.
Thankfully I always use dlss, i never find dlaa worth it (on 4K display)

[valid vortex]

Feel like it not working with native res is kind of a problem though.
But I don't have the skills to do anything about it....

[halcyon mirage]

Apparently it's a core issue with the generic UE mod, that appear on some games, so... can't help.
Should still be considered working, if other games that get the same issue are supported and displayed in the wiki mods page

[dusty girder]

the alternative to DLAA is forcing 99% res

[gaunt quest]

ive noticed in TOW2 that the UI brightness is adjusting the overall game brightness, looking through the search theres a bunch of games w this issue, is it just one of those things you have to learn to live with?

[swift plover]

either something is broken or those people didn't read the instructions

in games that use newer versions of UE for example

the tonemapping shader only reruns when you do something specific like enter a new area, adjust hdr settings, etc

[dusty girder]

a lot of games just opening and closing the start menu/equipment menu is good enough

[swift plover]

when upgrading SDR games to HDR, the ui brightness slider typically is applied by first scaling up or down the game brightness relative to the ui brightness and then the ui brightness scales everything afterwards

if the tonemapping shader isn't being rerun then its not rescaling the game brightnes

thus meaning the ui brightness is scaling everythign

[dusty girder]

if a lutbuilder is missing, the only sliders that work are swapchain pass sliders (gamma, ui, japan space)

but now the dump shaders sliders shows you all shaders (in-mod and new_ if new_) -- so thats no longer a mystery

[gaunt quest]

ah yeah i see reloading it resets the game's brightness and keeps the UI dimmed, i am idiot

[dusty girder]

its not all games, but thats an easy fix sure

I think some games

that have that bug

already have notes

I'm not 100% sure, since I didnt edit the UE wiki in ages; I try to encourage users to do it

[gaunt quest]

hiding in grass is causing it to go into SDR but its not dumping any new shaders when it happens, does that mean its likely a resource upgrade? when u hide it gradually overlays a vignette separate from the normal UE vignette

[regal kayak]

Good chance. Try 8 bit upgrades that aren’t srgb and whittle it down to what works.

Though it could also be unorm resources

[gaunt quest]

hmm, ok, somehow its caused by UUU, not sure how as it doesnt touch postprocessing by default, gonna have to investigate
none of the upgrades solved it

[west canopy]

It's very common have you tried messing with the upgrades ussually that helps

And for refreshing the slider effects in newer UE games the trick that works for me is just touching the ingame brightness slider up and down

[frigid fable]

There are 0 ways to use HDR on arc raiders? Got a AW2725DF and I am incredibly disappointed in how the screen is without HDR, washed out completely. But with HDR I cannot see in night time in most games. Would legit pay for help to make game visibility as optimized as possible regarding my monitor. I play fully competitively so the visual aspects while gaming is no big deal.

[regal kayak]

with HDR enabled, you'll be looking at the game with sRGB gamma, which would give you increased visibility compared to what most are seeing in SDR in windows

you should be able to see fine

[low light]

unreal engine highlights slider is bugged between 47-50

[frigid fable]

Shadows are too dark imo

It's just too black idk

How do we go about this method? Is it going to realistically make us get banned if used?

[coarse axle]

Anti cheat blocks the ability to load reshade

Therefore Reno can't be done

Game doesn't support HDR

Engine.ini forced HDR also doesn't work

It's a heavily customised version of UE5, even if UE5 add-on did work. There's a probability a custom add-on would be needed

[sturdy lagoon]

big fucking bummer

probably not buying it then

atleast not for 40 bux

[regal kayak]

I’m talking about just having HDR enabled in windows. That will raise the black levels because of how Windows handles SDR content. If that’s not enough for you, you’ll need to mess with monitor settings since the game is pretty locked down.

Your monitors SDR mode likely has some sort of shadow boost option. It’ll look like ass but will be functional.

[frigid fable]

Is using HDR on the monitor bad then on games like this

hard af to see in shadows as u said

I do have the "dark stabilizer option". But screen feels washed out af without hdr on his monitor I feel

[rustic lichen]

yeah that's common with the UI brightness slider sadly

I'm not having your issue with it going into SDR, and I usually have UUU loaded

[regal kayak]

SDR just feels washed out in general when you’re used to HDR.

[gaunt quest]

ive only noticed it in 2 situations, crouched in grass, and some explosion effects, when i was testing it i sat crouched in grass without UUU loaded, then loaded it and it near enough instantly clamped to SDR lol
2nd planet intro spoiler: ||the big explosion that happens at the start of the second planet when u go round ur ship was a big one||

[olive belfry]

Playing TOW2 with native HDR right now. Not experiencing such issues

[gaunt quest]

its only with renodx and UUU paired together, native HDR was fine but i like the control of reno for screenshots

[low light]

@placid siren latest version of unreal engine reno hightlights slider between 47-49 is buggy.

[west canopy]

I got to try playing it on ps5 and I suppose the situation is the same on PC, it's completely unberable, un-customisable bright white hud elements in both game and menus you cannot change, total eye cancer combined with washed out sdr and any tonemapping to hdr making it even worse, this game is pain and cancer to play on an oled screen and should die in a fucking fire fuck this game for not even giving us an option to adjust the hud i don't understand it also the game sucks it's the most boring extraction shooter concept i've seen to date, how is this garbo game hyped i don't understand i hope it dies and devs start paying more attention to qol features like fucking hud adjustments you have to be trolling with snow white hud elements i just can't this process this game man it's so dogshit

[frigid fable]

As a guy who dont get the thing really, why does the HUD matter with oleds etc?

[west canopy]

Oh and I'm sorry if you enjoy the game, it's just not for me, and I got really triggered by the poor visual standard combined with that terrible UI

The HUD is just too bright and you can't even adjust it's size or opacity. They could at least offer an opacity slider

What was giving me a headache in particular was the menu popups (item descriptions)

And yes if you set your display to real SDR without any brightness increase (200 nits flat) it wouldn't be as jarring but god help me it looks so bad to me i can't accept it

Even in SDR I don't find the white background on menu popups user friendly when most of the game itself is somewhat on the dark side.

It's unnecessary. Why do this? Why not just do minimalistic white text on black/gray background like most of the other games in this genre do? This alone was really jarring and distracting to me.

It's another thing if the whole game is very bright (fortnite, stardew valley, anime games) but Arc Raiders has that gritty dark realistic setting, where even your main menu is mostly blacks. And then every time you hover over an item (which is a big part of the game) it flashbangs you with that white background. It's unappealing even in SDR. And if you try to deep fry the game with HDR tone mapping you're absolutely cooked

While not completely fixing the poor UI design choices, a Reno mod with UI slider would help a lot and it's even more disappointing we won't be able to mod because it could look pretty amazing in hdr

and the reason I'm so upset is because itemisation, looting and crafting is such a big part of the game making this part of the game straining my eyes, is just completely unacceptable. no matter how much the fun the gameplay might be, I can't play a game like this when it's core visual design is so flawed it interferes with usability and is causing eye strain

why not give the user options? it would be a simple fix. they could easily improve this, but I don't expect it, as I don't expect any hdr implementation - but you can be rest assured they will work very hard on the mtx item shop

[peak galleon]

SDR doesn't look washed out using SDR desktop

sounds like a symptom of being HDR-brained

[broken smelt]

I play the game in sdr mode but i can clearly see what is tonemapped and its like music without treble or bass its like missing something where hdr highlightw would have been, and i agree the pure white hud is making me not utilise my tv because i don’t want to wear the pixels

Since hud is pure white, if you want to make the game not appear dim as hell you need to sear your eyes constantly with white hud elements

[broken smelt]

I don’t disagree

[mild hazel]

for outer worlds and dlss fix set

r.Streamline.DLSSG.RetainResourcesWhenOff=1
r.Streamline.DLSSG.CheckStatusPerFrame=0

[olive belfry]

What is this? In The Outer Worlds 2 I use r.Streamline.TagUIColorAlpha=0 to prevent screen distortions when DLSS frame generation is enabled during native HDR

[west canopy]

I don't disagree as well. Also fuck sdr, I couldn't care less about it

[olive belfry]

I recently played Super Mario Bros. Remastered and I think I can tolerate the SDR in that game

[west canopy]

Some games can be fine, but AR really needs it

Or at least an option for the UI adjustments

[peak galleon]

well you can't expect every game to support HDR so saying fuck SDR is dumb

[olive belfry]

I myself can't play any game without HDR now

[peak galleon]

smh people, sdr game on sdr desktop on oled looks fine

so restrictive to want to play HDR only games, that's borderline silly

[olive belfry]

It's so good that RenoDX exists

[peak galleon]

sure but not playing SDR? cmon

you will miss out on a lot of games that way

[eager lynx]

Good SDR > bad HDR

[west canopy]

I mean, I've been forcing some kind of HDR ever since I got my first HDR screen except a few exceptions (vampire survivors? but I was forcing HDR in most unity games before Reno too) most games - not all - but really, most of them simply look better in hdr, even Megabonk! did Megabonk need HDR tough? absolutely not, and honestly you can't really tell much of a difference, it was fine as is.

But when we're talking Unreal Engine games that go for these cinematic visuals but are limited to SDR (Arc Raiders, Space Marines 2) then yes I will skip these games because there's other games to play that do have or can have HDR modded.

I can make an exception for games like SM2, where UI is non-intrusive and easy on the eye even if you deep fry the SDR, which is how I originally played it trough (with RTX HDR), which was fine, because UI was not an issue. Can't say the same for Arc Raiders. That just kinda ruins it. It really does. You can't have bright, immersive, visually impacting game environment, without blasting yourself with the UI flashbangs. It's really a shame. It just looks so dissapointinginly flat to me in SDR I can't get past this. And the game isn't even that good to make me go trough with it (where I would stay just for the visual and audio experience). I would make an exception for Helldivers because gameplay makes up for it (it's simply more fun to me) and you can tone down the UI opacity or hide it. And there's no UI flashbangs. A good compromise.

Why would I even bother, if there's plenty of other games that you can get an incredible HDR representation on our 10k$ command centers..? I paid for all this, I want to have a good experience with it. And if there isn't a mod today, maybe it'll be done in the future. There's plenty of backlog to go trough anyway.

A game really needs to be just that good that would make me play it in SDR - or has a visual style where HDR does simply not matter (like Megabonk), so this is not a question of SDR vs HDR but overall visual representation. Megabonk looks just fine on any screen, in any dynamic range, because the way it's visual sytle is done; both game an UI. This just does not apply to a game like Arc Raiders, it's not the same standard

[west canopy]

also a good point, it's quite common to see bad HDR with raised black floor. thankfully there's mods and black floor fix, but if you're on console you're kinda cooked (and this is why I'm mostly done with consoles, except again, there are exceptions you have to pick that are good on console as-is but yes, in this situation I would be skipping 99% of playstation catalogue for sure, and i'm fine with that because thank god to Reshade and Reno)

[peak galleon]

you get a good experience in SDR on OLED anyway so all that's just silly tbh

rtx hdr also sucks ass

[west canopy]

you mean like leaving your display in SDR mode?

[peak galleon]

yeah

for sdr games anyway

[west canopy]

on Windows on C2 it's just too dim for me, I actually can't see anything. Had decent results in some games on console (still kinda crap but better in some ways than ps5 autohdr), but that was another display

[peak galleon]

then you have too much ambient light
you are going to miss a lot of good games in your life if you turn to HDR snobbery

[west canopy]

nah let me just deep fry it

[peak galleon]

[west canopy]

we will fix them, and if they have anti-cheat, well.. who cares about multiplayer anyway!

[mild hazel]

for reno and dlss fix, also dont set TagUIColorAlpha 0 with reno

[mild hazel]

ok but what about outer worlds that has bad SDR and bad HDR

[eager lynx]

I don't have any good answer then

[olive belfry]

I can't say it's bad HDR. It's rare to see really bad HDR in games nowadays. It was much worse in previous years, when there was always bad balance of contrast. It's much better now

[mild hazel]

hmm imo its particularly bad

[olive belfry]

There were bad moments. Yes

[mild hazel]

its soooo flat and washed out

which the game has a problem with in general

motivated me enough to contribute to reno to change it lol

but then the SDR mapping caused problems cause shadows are insanely crushed in SDR? idk, at least that can be resolved through settings mostly

[sturdy wraith]

Where do i put lutbuilder for a game thats missing in ue mod. Here or somewhere else?

[untold wadi]

Here

[slim fractal]

Hello I started Uncharted 4 with reno yesterday. Could you tell me if these screenshots looks good to you plz ?

[north fjord]

Reshade - Print - PNG HDR - Discord Supported Format
and wrong channel

[slim fractal]

Ah yes sorry it's not an UE mod for uncharted 😅

Are the PNG from nvidia good ?

[north fjord]

Never used nvidia screenshot, don't know

[placid siren]

No, they're SDR

[slim fractal]

Ok thanks

[regal kayak]

put together a centralized installation script that will symlink out the unreal addon and reshade dll. Also creates a reshade config that skips tutorial and disables default addons. Defaults to creating a folder %userprofile%\renodx for keeping the reshade dlls and addon file.

it also has a localized installation mode, just gotta set the variable to false near the top of the script.

it's lacking in error handling so just don't do anything wrong

[dusty girder]

I had something like that, got tired of maintaing symlinks

nowadays I just copy and paste a few files in a game foler, and thats it

but nice job

[mortal birch]

sorry for the offtopic

but please some prayers for my 5090 gpu

F

she just couldnt take it anymore and decide to self destroy xD

[bleak nest]

Ooooffff

Sorry

Which PSU?

And GPU variant?

[mortal birch]

Was palit

Gane rock melted by His own qndq was Well plugged

I'm not sure what in the hell happened but was progressive

I didn't smekl norhing no smoke no fire no aparks

5 days ago u was playing bf 6

[bleak nest]

QNDQ?

[mortal birch]

And was hanging my pc

And throwing me bsod every 1 minute

[mortal birch]

I don't know what qndq meana

[bleak nest]

Which PSU?

[mortal birch]

Evga Supernova g2

1300w

[bleak nest]

Then wdym that it melted by its own QNDQ?

[mortal birch]

... English please

Wdym end qndq I don't know what they mean

[bleak nest]

Wdym = what do you mean

[bleak nest]

You said QNDQ here.

[mortal birch]

That the cable was inside

And correctly plugged full in this cables

Are the new revision with the 4 Sens pins

And just the cable die and melted because he wanted

My GPU was at 51 degree's

No overcloking

I even saved the card

I plugged the cable melted and the card was working and didn't hung up

As soon as I was able to pull the connector out

And I ahur everything up just to avoid making things worst

And I want it to rma here in argentina

And they tested the card and was working . Just the cable melted

And was the cable sent by manufacturer inaide the box

Not a third party one

Of course I couldn't use the card like that, it could cause a short

So idk it seems that cables are the problem

And you know what is the weird thing ?

I coulbst find any patent from who made this cable and his specifications

No warranties of how much the cable can manage

In theory 600w same as the GPU but someone is lying

Or the cable failed due to bad manufacturers process

Or just the cable can't handle 600w

[bleak nest]

You were using the adapter that Palit sent?

Or you mean cable from EVGA?

[mortal birch]

Palit branding
Game rock model
Melted by His own and was we'll plugged

[bleak nest]

Good decision.

[mortal birch]

The one that palit sent

My psu don't have the pcie5 or whatever connector

[mortal birch]

The rma here first they said we can't do nothing I'd the card is we'll plugged. Check the windows code error over bsod to find the real issue

And I was like what !??

Hahaha

[bleak nest]

The connector is made by PCI-SIG, and Intel worked with them on making it.

NVIDIA first popularized it by using it, and then they worked with SIG on a revision. And AMD/NVIDIA uses the revision now.

[mortal birch]

If you want I sent you the message in Spanish ajd use chat gpt and translate is funny

[bleak nest]

Cables can do a little over 600w, but GPUs aren’t really meant to go above that anyway.

[mortal birch]

Yup and if you check over the GPU side

[bleak nest]

I’ve been using that connector for like 3 years now.

[mortal birch]

She was fine. The cable was messing with her

[bleak nest]

Nah, it’s fine. I know how retailers can be.

You did the right thing.

By not continuing to use it.

[mortal birch]

Yeah and I was like dude

What error code of window will tell you

[bleak nest]

They gonna replace the GPU for you now, yeah?

[mortal birch]

Hey asshole the connector is melting!?

Hahahaha

[bleak nest]

GPU connector has bun marks, that’s enough to request an RMA.

[mortal birch]

Plus the card working

And I event sent it with the film protector

But if I haved to follow their advise

The GPU for sure was going to die

And then user error

They gave my money back

Full and plus shipping

4.5 millons pesos

[mortal birch]

I offered em that as second choice

Becauae I didn't wanted to cause real looses

But they couldn't guarantee any Cable

So full refund

[bleak nest]

Nice, hopefully you can buy another one from elsewhere.

[mortal birch]

So I somt have any gpu

[bleak nest]

Hopefully prices aren’t jacked for you rn.

[mortal birch]

I'm just with my cpu on board gpu

[mortal birch]

Their are

The thing is what gpu won't fail !?

Even if you change the psu still not guarantee of nothing

Specially those with that connector

5090 4090 5080

Has the same issue

So idk if just me thay Nvidia decided to screw me up

Or what

[mortal birch]

Look the thing is I contacted a friend

He said that he could get an assu astral 5090

For 1600 usd

And I was like what !?

In theory should be here in Nov 27

And he said that Nvidia gave it to Blizzard gave it for free

Reason why he can get those prices I have no way to check if that is true or not

But for sure I won't paid nothing's until I see the 5090 on top of the table

The other way is just amazon.es

3200usd the astral one

If you find a way that I can sent my money safe to him

Maybe uaing pay Pal because he haa one let me know

Becauae it's been long time since the last time I used pay pal and I don't remember well how pay pal works and how can PayPal "cover" my money

If you ask me , it smells bad a astral 5090 for 1600usd it smells like scam

But how he can lie to me if I don't paid until the 5090 is on top of the table !?

[mortal birch]

What gpu brand !?

Here some other pics I found over my phone. I didn't even knowed why the connectors has those colors. Now I know

To user know I'd the cable is well plugged or not

[bleak nest]

Zotac AMP Extreme for 4090

And Founder’s Edition for 5090

[mortal birch]

Both same connector!?

Is it impossible for me to find founders editions

[bleak nest]

4090 I used mostly with the adapter it came with since I had AX1200i, 5090 I use with my native cable from my Super Flower PSU, no adapter.

[mortal birch]

Specially retail price

[bleak nest]

Not sure about Argentina.

But for U.S., yeah.

[mortal birch]

New egg I guess

[bleak nest]

I never looked at Argentina market, so I can’t help there.

No

Directly from NVIDIA

[mortal birch]

But Newegg won't ship to arg

[bleak nest]

Or Best Buy.

Correct.

None of them will.

[mortal birch]

Shit

How much it cost a 5090 ofer there

[bleak nest]

You’ll need to find someone living in States and they’ll ship to you. But keep in mind custom costs.

[mortal birch]

Over those sites !?

[bleak nest]

I paid $2k for mine.

MSRP.

[mortal birch]

Fuck .

Is there anyway I can paid you and you ship to me !?

Using ups!?

We can use PayPal because I think that pay pal cover both of us

[bleak nest]

I am not in States right now.

[mortal birch]

Shit

[bleak nest]

And like I said, you’d need to take care of customs.

Cost will shoot up quite a bit.

Do this.

[mortal birch]

Nope

[bleak nest]

Go to NVIDIA website for Argentina.

And then see if 5090 is listed there.

[mortal birch]

Becaaue in here we have like a régimen for counries

[bleak nest]

At least check if NV is selling directly there or not.

[mortal birch]

Up to 5 shipping

Free of tax a year

[bleak nest]

Oh wow

That’s pretty cool

In that case ..

You can use a freight forward service.

[mortal birch]

Max 6000usd

Above that 20% tax of full cost

Anyway ups sent the bilking and they won't deliver

Until the bilking is paid

[bleak nest]

https://www.myus.com/where-we-ship/argentina/

I’ve used MyUS.com in past.

[mortal birch]

Nope Nvidia won't sell

[bleak nest]

It’s good for when you’re in a pinch.

[mortal birch]

And I think is out of stock

[bleak nest]

As for ordering from States

https://discord.gg/falcodrin

[mortal birch]

What do you mean in a pinch!?

[bleak nest]

Join this Discord, and sign up for 5090 alerts.

They’ll send you notification/tag when their API bot detects something is up for sale.

[bleak nest]

As in if you need something quick, just a phrase.

[mortal birch]

I don't think it will be valid

[mortal birch]

For Argentina

[bleak nest]

There was a drop today.

[bleak nest]

No, you’ll use MyUS.com

[bleak nest]

This.

Go read the website.

They give you a U.S. address to use, and you have it shipped there, and they will forward it to you in Argentina.

You pay them for shipping.

[mortal birch]

Invalid invite

[bleak nest]

Trustworthy service, I’ve used them before.

[mortal birch]

Oh that's a warehouse then

[bleak nest]

Loads fine for me.

[bleak nest]

They have warehouses for forwarding things, yes.

[mortal birch]

Is expensive -_-

[bleak nest]

Not too expensive.

[mortal birch]

🙁

[bleak nest]

Google their name or something then, that’s the invite link I got.

[mortal birch]

No worries

[bleak nest]

Can you follow this msg?

And then join?

Try that.

[mortal birch]

Nope

It won't let me

[bleak nest]

Damn

No idea

[mortal birch]

https://cart.microcenter.com/

Does microcenter

Ship to arg ?

[bleak nest]

Nope

[mortal birch]

Fuck

[vital geyser]

I use the nvidia squid I got with my card because I don't trust the Corsair cable I have that I did use with my 4090

This one

People I know have had it fail on the psu side which in some cases took the connector on the gpu with it

One did repair the card himself by soldering a new connector on it

[sturdy lagoon]

I have 2 of those, no issues even yeeting 1000W through those, not sure how well balanced they are doubt it’s perfectly 50/50

[vital geyser]

Yea a HoF would've been nice to have

Sadly for the 5090 there's only a 5090D iirc

[sturdy lagoon]

Ya

Also only the giga expensive model has 2 I think

[vital geyser]

Wish 2 connectors were standard tbh on the 4090/5090

Would've solved it probably

[sturdy lagoon]

Fr

Well maybe not solve but

Very much less likely to have issues

Like in daily use if it’s roughly equal neither of them use even 300W sustained

[vital geyser]

Well 8 pins have burned up in the past as well and with two of them they have the same safety margin iirc

[olive belfry]

In Double Dragon Revive HDR can be forced through ini. And in Reno the game's brightness is tied to the UI brightness

Screenshots from forced native mode

[open fulcrum]

I need help making this addon work properly in it takes two

It looks p off atm with everything default

[sturdy lagoon]

Thats not a game that we have listed on the wiki so you'll have to figure out which ressource upgrades you have to do when you set the reno menu to advanced

[strange pebble]

Does anyone know what I have to upgrade for Echoes of the End? If not, how can I find out? (other than just trying every combination)

[olive belfry]

It worked with RenoDX: UE at launch

[strange pebble]

They added their own HDR since then (which auto enables on startup, even if I turn it off manually) and with that I get a black screen.

Just wanted to compare their HDR with Reno because their HDR makes even burning enemies extremly bright

[olive belfry]

For a black screen R10G10B10A2_UNORM → output size

[mortal birch]

mine was 12hpwr to 4 pcie 8 pines

[mortal birch]

which model of 5090 has 2 of those connectors wtf?

[sturdy lagoon]

It’s a 4090

[vital geyser]

Galax/KF2A HoF

[mortal birch]

the one with 48gb model?

[vital geyser]

They only made a 5090D HoF sadly

[sturdy lagoon]

Its a 4090 GALAX Hall of Fame Engineering sample

[mortal birch]

O_O

ENGINerring sample XD,

[vital geyser]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/kfa2-rtx-4090-hof-oc-lab.b10769

You didn't need an engineering sample for that

[sturdy lagoon]

Yeh sort of a XOC variant kinda

[vital geyser]

Unless you have the extreme XOC varient of that yes

[sturdy lagoon]

The retail ones don’t have the jumpers for example to shunt mod

[mortal birch]

do you think

that swapping the psu

[vital geyser]

The retail one is more for peace of mind with the two connectors

[mortal birch]

could avoid or mitigate those "burning cables"

[vital geyser]

XOC is also the one the 1000W bios is/was meant for

[sturdy lagoon]

No

[mortal birch]

because for what i am looking is always on the cable side

so there is no "safe way" to prevent this meltings?

[vital geyser]

Personally if I had two connectors I wouldn't worry

[mortal birch]

there is no 5090 with split connectors

[vital geyser]

I don't remember a card under 300W burning up with that connector

[mortal birch]

maybe adapter but im not sure and im quite sure if there is is chinese

[sturdy lagoon]

Not really no except making sure contact is proper there’s not much you can do

[vital geyser]

I know

I wish there was though

[mortal birch]

it was making properly contact

you know the only thing i can think?

that "unplugging and plugin " the connector about 6 times

because i moved the gpu from vertical to horizontal mount

fuck the connectors up

or the pins

thats the only thing i did, but for 100% always the plug was good connected

i always checked with my flashlight over my cellphone

[sturdy lagoon]

The 8pins can survive mad power tbh I’ve seen and have ran myself some bonkers power through just 2 8pins on some CPUs 😂, I think it’s just different material in the plugs, PSU side/cable side is often softer or melts quicker than the connector on the gpu itself which is more heat resistant

[mortal birch]

ahaha

so there is no way to run away from those cables

or the psu side could melt

or over the gpu side

[sturdy lagoon]

The PSU side melts because of improper contact on the gpu side yeah

[mortal birch]

so there is no even

something to split that damn connector?

and make the power equal like 300w and 300w?

[sturdy lagoon]

Because if one pin loses connection completely because it’s too lose or whatever then the entire cable starts getting hot, not the plug itself, it’s just a matter of what is the least heat resistant

[mortal birch]

for fuck sake

[sturdy lagoon]

Thing is even on the hof it’s probably not even fully balanced

[mortal birch]

im so mad with this

dude but wtf, was well connected

the card i even pllugged the connectors melted

[sturdy lagoon]

Because on the gpu PCB side it’s basically just 1 power plane

[mortal birch]

and the card was working

wtf!

i haved to "unstuck" the connector from the gpu and was like "kinda going to the place i will shoot my self"

[sturdy lagoon]

So it will just pull whatever I can, with no regard where it’s from basically since there’s nothing to manage the power draw

[mortal birch]

but is unbelieavble that there is no safe way

to prevent the cable from melting im asking to lots of ppl of can i do

or asking gpu models and no ones knows xD

[sturdy lagoon]

Im partially not buying a 5090 for that reason

I’ll 100% kill one doing too much OC

[mortal birch]

the thing is : 4090 prices hiked

like crazy

[sturdy lagoon]

ofc, it’s long out of production

[mortal birch]

due to the main factor of the 5090 price

[sturdy lagoon]

And still extremely fast

[mortal birch]

i can get a 48gb model from china xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

hahahaha

[sturdy lagoon]

5090 barely worth switching to

For most 4090 owners

Especially not for the price

[mortal birch]

and in argentina is crazy

4 millons

is like 4000 usd

the zotact one

[sturdy lagoon]

💀

[mortal birch]

and the palit one i had

i paid like 3.8 millons ars

is like i think 3600usd

you know what was funny? the retailer over here told me

"the card is working we dont have a way to check if the cable failed due to the current state of his"

and i was like no shit? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

and i even asked him and offered a second choice

like could you give me a cable that you know for sure that wont fail? nope

ok refund full price

i was sooooooo mad with that dude

previously of shipping my self the card to cordoba province in arg

the guy was telling me "if the card is working there is no rma that we cant offer"

and i was like, dude how in the hell do you want me to use the card with that fucking cable melted?

should i use it like that and cause a short on the gpu? are you crazy?

and it happend in here like 2 am 5 days previously to that

i was using the card with no issue

probably this melting issue was getting proggresive since many months

i seriously doubt that the melt was happening to me at that day at 2 am

too quickly

no smoke, no fire, no sparks no nothing

hope you can translate this to your language using chatgpt

but please do

[mortal birch]

and you know what also? the gpu was UNDERVOLTED

from 1025mv to 870mv xDD hahahahaa

[sturdy lagoon]

Bruh

[mortal birch]

could you believe it? xD

[sturdy wraith]

here is the missing lutbuilder for High on life. Please add it to UE addon.

[regal kayak]

It doesn’t say new so it’s already implemented

[sturdy wraith]

I thought it wasn't supposed to make a lutbuilder if it already had it. No?

[open fulcrum]

is there a guide

on what to do and what not to do

[regal kayak]

It was changed, it says new if it’s a new one now

[vital geyser]

Wasn't it changed so it was obvious that it was working?

[bright badger]

It's probably some weird issue on my end, but any idea why it would successfully download and update ReShade but wouldn't pull the Reno builds from Github? The same happens with the Unity script as well of course

[regal kayak]

I made some dumb mistakes with the script that didn't show up until I used it in a couple different situations

I'm adding features and fixing stuff

I hate bat scripting....

[bright badger]

I'll wait then 👌

[regal kayak]

my goal with this is to have something solid enough to simply post to nexus so I don't have to post builds of my mods. It'll also just be nice for these generic mods

[bright badger]

Yeah it's pretty handy to have, wish I could help with the scripting

[regal kayak]

@bright badger see if this works for you now

[bright badger]

Yep! It downloads everything correctly now

And I also made a copy for the Unity mod with the necessary changes to the top part of the script, all good

[regal kayak]

addon that works(?) with Hogwarts Legacy

used PS5.1 and I did some manual fixes for the 3dmigoto decomp. Guy who tested it says it works, but there could be problems

[regal kayak]

if anybody that cares about this game wants to test and post some SDR/HDR comparison photos with hdr analysis up, that would be great. Not gonna commit this unless I know it's good

[north fjord]

status of - Sifu ?

[untold wadi]

Custom and doesn't have bright lights

Lutbuilders should already be there

[queen pine]

SDR

screenshot not representative of how it actually looks on my monitor for some reason

[indigo plank]

FYI you can take HDR PNG screenshots with ReShade, just use the print screen key

[queen pine]

ReShade Screenshots

[regal kayak]

Id have to look at my pc to know for sure but this isn’t looking right to me

Idk what my phone is gonna do with these though lol

[sturdy lagoon]

seems like its skipping the sdr colorgrade/luts

wouldnt necessarily say its bad but defo a completely different vibe without the color grade..

hdr highlights seem good i think

[regal kayak]

Is this with hdr disabled in game? And which upgrades selected?

[indigo plank]

Might be different weather conditions in the game since the npcs aren’t the same between the two images

[queen pine]

in-game hdr is disabled in both screenshots. 1st screenshot is SDR (no RenoDX) the 2nd screenshot is HDR + RenoDX with all upgrades toggled on because I couldn't figure out the individual one that needed to be enabled.

[queen pine]

both screenshots were taken within 1-2 seconds after loading the save file

[regal kayak]

Hmmmm alright. I guess the first shot you posted without the upgrades still looks like the grading is missing. Guess it needs to be fixed still.

Thanks!

[rocky mortar]

Does Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order work with this one out of the box?

[thick belfry]

No, the engine is too heavly customised

[rocky mortar]

DLAA Luma worked out of the box so thought this would
The game’s HDR looks bad
Is there a way to make it better?

[thick belfry]

https://github.com/KoKlusz/HDR-Gaming-Database/discussions/76

[west canopy]

If it's capped at 1000 nits what does the HDR slider do exactly then? What would be your recommendation for a 2000 nit screen?

[rocky mortar]

black floor fix did the job, but I don't know if my caliberation is ideal

does this looks ideal? sorry I purchased a FO32U2P recently and relatively new in the HDR space

[thick belfry]

It's exposure/overal brightness
If you have a 2000 nits screen you just have to live with the fact you won't be able to min max it

[thick belfry]

Important thing is that it should look good to you

[west canopy]

So it's like death stranding slider? Or was DS slider only peaks? It felt like overall exposure to me

And you're saying 2.0 hits 2000 nits but maybe I shouldnt go that far

[thick belfry]

If you have brightness at 0.8 the black floor fix value should be around 200
But again, use whatever looks good to you

[thick belfry]

Ds has a peak brightness slider for HDR and gamma slider for the general brightness

[thick belfry]

I'm talikg about average brightness, highlights still won't go above 1000

[west canopy]

Ok it was hard to tell from the DS calibration picture it was just making the sky overall much brighter

[rocky mortar]

yeah it's exactly that!

[thick belfry]

FYI I have a post about ds as well

[west canopy]

Oh? I must missunderstand your description then, what does this mean?

What do you mean by 2.0 going to (~2000 nits !!!)

That part really confused me

[thick belfry]

It means it's as bright as SDR at 2000 nits full screen

[rocky mortar]

tyvm KoKlusz Lilum Black Floor Fix actually might come in handy in other games that I've tested as well!

[west canopy]

Still don't quite fully understand this

So anyway, I should leave it a 0.5 or default? Increase slightly to my liking if it looks too dim and adjust black floor fix

[thick belfry]

Thank @blissful basin for the amazing tools and consider donating!

[thick belfry]

You know how you TV or monitor has a brightness slider in SDR that makes the entire image brighter or darker?

It's the same thing but on the software side

[west canopy]

Right. But raising it too much narrows the dynamic range between highlights and midtones. "If everyting is special, nothing is special".

Thoughts on using active tone mapping with fine tuning this brightness slider to get my TV to expand beyond 1000 nits?

[thick belfry]

No

[west canopy]

Isn't this better than just increasing overall brightness with clamped highlights at 1000? At least perceptually

[thick belfry]

No, 1000 nits is plenty enough

Forcing highier peak brightness when you have no actual highlight information is not recommended

HDR is not about brightness, it's about data contained in the signal

Brightness is what you need to properly represent that data

This is why we call autohdr or rtxhdr "fake"

[west canopy]

I understand and agree on that, but I was willing to experiment with this just how it feels because the thought of only increasing exposure while being clamped to 1000 is telling me you're just narrowing your dynamic range.

Yes there is no data for above 1000 but i just want to expand the dynamic range even if the top end is clipped

For a "perceptual" fake hdr boost

[thick belfry]

This is correct, but if you can't actually unclap the highlights above 1000 nits than increasing the exposure above 200 nits only compresses the dynamic range

[west canopy]

Yeah and I don't want to do that

So I would decrease the slider to combat the DTM double raising the exposure

[thick belfry]

You can't increase the dynamic range while clipping at the same time

Those things are in the opposition to each other

[west canopy]

Yes what I mean is reduce the dynamic range reduction by lowering the slider, DTM itself would "unlock" or deep fry only top end, that wasy theory

If you use both (ingame brightness increase) it's a big mess but I would use DTM just like a toggle to increase the top end

[thick belfry]

Afaik dtm affects the entire curve, not just the top range

[west canopy]

Yeah that's the problem with it

Hence why I would drop down the ingame slider a lot

[thick belfry]

So what you're asking for is not really possible

[thick belfry]

But that will make other scenes too dark

Because dtm adjust the brightness of the entire image

[west canopy]

Right. But won't know until I try out, which I will for sure. Tone mapping really depends on the display itself too

Didn't like how the C2 did DTM, just overall compressing the image and it was just no no... Never used it. But with S95F I feel it's quite different. Still never actually resorted to actively use it so far because Reno, this is a rare case of having working HDR but fixed to 1000 and I'm really curious what could look better; increasing the ingame brightness curve but stuck at 1000 (in case the game feels dim), or decreasing the curve but with active mapping (it should raise it close to reference while also boosting the top end) so letting the TV do the entire range, curve might be different but the range you're seeing between midtones and highlights should be bigger than just increasing exposure...

Just for a perceptual boost, I know the details are not there

[desert heron]

ooo timesplitters rewind is on unreal engine

https://www.indiedb.com/games/timesplitters-rewind1

and it just works without having to change any settings

hmm spoke too soon

[mortal birch]

Ok sorry I wanted to gave some goods news

I end up buying an astral 5090 lc

Should come to home in few days. If someone have some advice please. Let me know :). Sorry the off topic /+!

From what I heard this card trough his software has a built in per pin monitoring. So I would use that but not sure how much current a pin can go trough (in safe specs)

[mortal birch]

?

I wasn't upgrading

Oh

I haved a 5090 Palit

Which got melted

And I needed to replace it. I send it to my local rma

And I got my money back

So I replaced it with a better version

3.300usd

If you upgrade your GPU let me know and I tell you how and why you should care about the cable

You should monitor or the temperature over the cable. Or use a monitor tool like thermal grizzly wire view 2. Or a thermal sensor cable over the clamp on the the plug.

Or buy the Asus astral which haves some protection over the GPU side inside with some shunts plus some monitor over pins

Because you have to look how much amppers are going trough pin

9.28 A is the limit if you go above that it will burn

The Palit one don't have any protection. I was running still even when the plug was getting melted

Is crazy

Was the bsod from Windows which put me into aware

If it woth upgrading. Idk I came from a 3080 ti

But this is serious to be safe I rather go to a 4090 and even still could happen. If you can skip this Gen

And wait until Nvidia does somethinf about it. Or just buy the asrock taichi model which has a protection built in which measure the temperature over the cable. And shut down if it goes above 105°

Is a psu the one from asrock

I don't think that Nvidia would do much otherwise it has to do a massive recall

So they are letting third parties to built a fix XD

They are

You could just modify

Your 4090

To a 48gb

By upgrading the pcb

And swapping to custom bios

The only thing they keep is the chip.

Not something you should dk

Maybe over united states someone might do it for you

But won't be cheap. But for sure less than a 5090

Hmmmm from what I heard

A 5090 is a 4090 with steroids

Yup

Honestly

If I wrard you I will keep the 4090

Coming from there idk if does much sense to upgrade

[bleak nest]

NV already did what it needed to do, it can't do anything more than that. It's a spec from PCI-SIG, not NV.

NV already got involved with the revision, and we got 12V-2x6 out of it.

Which was tested to fix the issues with the original one i.e. user errors

Where it would stay cool even when improperly inserted.

And that was years ago.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/12v-2x6-connector-tested

HWBusters tested it, video linked there.

It's no different from 4090, if anything, better since revised spec.

These connectors have been used in data center for years now.

[mortal birch]

So what ese the reason

Of melted cables?

Upgrade your psu?

[mortal birch]

I watched the same video

But they also builder a fix

With sensor and shut down future

Feature

[bleak nest]

That electronics can malfunction, no matter what. I've had melted cables on my HDDs in past as well, as well as GPUs burning up without any troubled cables. Sometimes shit just goes kaput.

I meant connector side*

5090 can be a decent jump over 4090 if your'e gaming 4K

I get anywhere from 35-40% on avg.

Some games it can go higher

Like TLoU2