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wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 1:45 AM

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but I limited the FPS to 90

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that one septimont area with the water is significantly more heavy than anything in 3.0 so far

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and I don't use FG

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the RTGI artifacts are still pretty bad even without FG

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 1:52 AM

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wet crane the RTGI artifacts are still pretty bad even without FG

The denoiser looks ass this patch

verbal schooner Dec 28, 2025, 2:21 AM

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denoiser always been ass

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:21 AM

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verbal schooner denoiser always been ass

this tbh

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:21 AM

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echo ridge The denoiser looks ass this patch

it's not as bad as in 2.6 but it's bad

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:22 AM

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Gay resconstruction

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Time

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:22 AM

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smearing/artifacting in dark areas

verbal schooner Dec 28, 2025, 2:23 AM

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wet crane that one septimont area with the water is significantly more heavy than anything...

That's more gpu heavy no?

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:23 AM

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they had to lower the ray count to basically nothing

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:23 AM

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verbal schooner That's more gpu heavy no?

nah it's CPU limited

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GPU is sitting at 70% usage

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:24 AM

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Well you have head room for gay reconstruction

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:24 AM

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I don't want to use RR

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it doesnt even work

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in wuwa

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Huh wdym

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It works

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Just hits your perf by ~20% or so

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:28 AM

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I had issues with it cant exactly remember what

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something with smearing

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but yea I should test the newest RR model

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but I dont have 20% headroom lol

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:32 AM

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RT down to low?

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:32 AM

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nah lol

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:32 AM

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why not

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:32 AM

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that looks sad

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:32 AM

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RR handles the rest

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u dont need asmuch rays

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:33 AM

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I will test it with RR but I don’t think that its going to look great

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low also limits the distance

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btw lynae’s resonance liberation animation is probably the best looking yet, that impact frame is soo satisfying

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:35 AM

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wet crane low also limits the distance

you can use high ini's distance

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and the rest on low

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low

[/Script/Engine.RendererRTXSettings]
; Same as default
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.DownsampleFactor=64
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.RadianceCache.NumProbesToTraceBudget=180
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.Temporal.DistanceThreshold=0.05
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.TracingOctahedronResolution=4
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.ScreenTraces.HZBTraversal.FullResDepth=0
r.Lumen.Reflections.ScreenTraces=1
r.Lumen.Reflections.DownsampleFactor=2
r.Lumen.Reflections.WaterDownsampleFactor=2
r.Lumen.TranslucencyReflections.FrontLayer.Allow=0
; Changed from default
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.RadianceCache.ProbeResolution=8
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.Temporal.MaxFramesAccumulated=24
r.Lumen.Reflections.DownsampleCheckerboard=1
r.Lumen.Reflections.SmoothBias=1.0

high

[/Script/Engine.RendererRTXSettings]
; Same as default
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.DownsampleFactor=16
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.RadianceCache.ProbeResolution=32
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.RadianceCache.NumProbesToTraceBudget=300
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.Temporal.DistanceThreshold=0.03
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.TracingOctahedronResolution=8
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.ScreenTraces.HZBTraversal.FullResDepth=1
r.Lumen.Reflections.ScreenTraces=1
r.Lumen.Reflections.DownsampleFactor=1
r.Lumen.Reflections.WaterDownsampleFactor=1
r.Lumen.TranslucencyReflections.FrontLayer.Allow=1
r.Lumen.TranslucencyReflections.FrontLayer.DownsampleFactor=1
; Changed from default
r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.Temporal.MaxFramesAccumulated=8
r.Lumen.Reflections.SmoothBias=1.0

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@wet crane RR comparison found somewhere else https://imgsli.com/NDM2NzU2
https://imgsli.com/NDM2NzUy
https://imgsli.com/NDM2NzU0
https://imgsli.com/NDM2NzUx
https://imgsli.com/NDM2NzUw
https://imgsli.com/NDM2NzQ3

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although more might be found in motion and not in stills, probably

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:41 AM

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yea the main issue is motion

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is this low RT+RR vs high RT?

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or high rt vs high rt + rr

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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no idea i grabbed this from somewhere else

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ah

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got RR working on my machine
RR on / RT Low

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well fuck the moon moves too much i cant match this

dapper flare Dec 28, 2025, 7:45 AM

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how is the stuttering on it? my 5900x stutters to high heaven as it pings from ccd to ccd. only way to fix it is to disable CCD2, and then I'm CPU bottlenecked in the cities

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might honestly look into side-grading to a used one of them because I don't do a ton of multicore work on here anymore

red nebula Dec 28, 2025, 8:20 AM

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looooool

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:54 PM

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the wind blowing the sand effect is really cool

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it's dynamic, and it reacts to objects

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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dapper flare how is the stuttering on it? my 5900x stutters to high heaven as it pings from c...

I use a 9800x3D, single CCD, it's not really stuttering

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I mean it's not really noticeable

dapper flare Dec 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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wonder if it'll be similar on a 5800x3d, or if zen3 is just too slow to not actually stutter much.

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because I don't exactly feel like spending into a new platform when I've got to sell a kidney for a kit of RAM

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:57 PM

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no idea, the x3d cache probably helps a lot

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enabling rebar also helped

dapper flare Dec 28, 2025, 2:57 PM

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already got rebar on, I just think it's the inter ccd latency kinda messing things up

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and RT is CPU intensive enough to make single CCD chug

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 2:58 PM

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yea

dapper flare Dec 28, 2025, 2:59 PM

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game still has better RT and performance than a good chunk of modern UE5, can't really complain much I suppose

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 4:10 PM

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Cartwheel team is OP af

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8000 points 😄

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limber dune Dec 28, 2025, 4:13 PM

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forgot you could enable RR in this game - that really does clean up a lot of the reflections

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 4:17 PM

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limber dune forgot you could enable RR in this game - that really does clean up a lot of the...

it does not fix the SSR+RT Reflection issues tho

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that's round 2

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I killed two and a half bosses with that team

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bot no you can't choose unfortunately, you have to plan ahead

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my phrolova team can do ~7k, Galbrena team which I don't fully know how to use haha 5-6k, Iuno with half finished Lynae ~5.5k, and Carthweel team ~8k

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and the rest of my teams can do around 3k maybe 3.5

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so yea I can do like 35k points max atm

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maybe a little more, but that's it

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you need to reach 5k points with 4 teams to get all the astrite rewards

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they are going to change it for sure

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this is not F2P friendly at all

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day one players struggle to get 4x5k points

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yea it's a horizontal investment endgame mode

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which is a little bit too early imo

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 6:16 PM

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dapper flare wonder if it'll be similar on a 5800x3d, or if zen3 is just too slow to not actu...

i had a 5800x3d, it stuttered a lot, switched to a 9800x3d and no more stutters, well not really no more but far far less

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raster ran pretty well on the 5800, but RT is just too demanding in this game, or should I say very badly optimized

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 7:08 PM

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not sure, but the demo resonators are not that great unfortunately

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 7:08 PM

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grave tiger i had a 5800x3d, it stuttered a lot, switched to a 9800x3d and no more stutters,...

9800x3d + ddr5

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it’s not just the CPU

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RAM matters a lot when the game is CPU limited

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 7:28 PM

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a good ddr4 kit doenst really differ that much from ddr5, also ryzen single ccd chips dont have a lot of bandwith anyway

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zen 5 x3d is just that good compared to a zen 3 x3d

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:05 PM

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grave tiger a good ddr4 kit doenst really differ that much from ddr5, also ryzen single ccd ...

the difference is significant, the 1% low fps should be 50%+ higher on a good ddr5 kit, which helps a lot when it comes to stuttering

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people underestimate the importance of good ram and ram timing

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:11 PM

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we are talking about x3d chips tho...

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:16 PM

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yes

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and the difference is still huge

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when you are CPU limited ofc

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:19 PM

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no...

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like no

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there's a difference of like 1%

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or lower

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:19 PM

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3D cache is great but if you want high 0.1% and 1% low fps then you need good ram

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:20 PM

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again, 3d cache makes it so it doesnt really care

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:20 PM

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thats a reddit myth

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it helps

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:21 PM

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whatever man

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:22 PM

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@smoky wind I need to summon you for this lol

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:24 PM

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ping whoever you want but you'll never notice a difference in gaming between a 6000cl32 and 6000cl28, unless you only stare at aida64 latency test

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:24 PM

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we are talking about ddr4 vs ddr5 wtf

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:26 PM

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I was talking about x3d chips

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now

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:27 PM

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you said that when you upgraded to 9800x3d the stuttering was reduced because of the CPU only, but it’s not true the ram plays a significant role in that too

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:28 PM

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yes, and i really doubt that the 5800x3d would benefit from ddr5, as zen 3 x3d compared to zen 5 x3d is very different

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its mostly cpu performance bump

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:28 PM

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well obviously it does not support ddr5

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:29 PM

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i know, but even if it did it wouldnt change much

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thats what i was saying

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:29 PM

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pair the 9800x3d with a slow ddr5 kit and you get horrible performance

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:29 PM

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slow as?

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5600?

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:30 PM

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or lower yea

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sub timings matter a lot too

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the cl value not so much

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:31 PM

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I had a chart showing the difference but i dont have it in hand now, the difference between 6000 and 8000 is like 2%

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i'll see if i can find it

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:31 PM

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yes ofc

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you are running that in 1:2 mode

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the chipset does not support it

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:32 PM

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wdym it doesnt?

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:33 PM

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6400/6600 is the max that you can run in 1:1 mode

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probably 6400

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:33 PM

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i know but you said it does not support it

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you can run 8000?

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:33 PM

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I mean 1:1

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it does not support 1:1

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:34 PM

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yea ofc

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i know

wet crane Dec 28, 2025, 8:34 PM

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so yea you are not going to see a huge performance boost

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past 6400

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but you can probably tighten the timings with a good 8000 MTs kit

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but it also depends on the M/B and silicon lottery so yea it does not worth it

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 8:41 PM

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cant seem to find this freaking chart

cinder schooner Dec 28, 2025, 9:57 PM

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I like how the only way to get this game to run well is to brute force it with top tier hardware

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omegalul

dapper flare Dec 28, 2025, 10:00 PM

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grave tiger i had a 5800x3d, it stuttered a lot, switched to a 9800x3d and no more stutters,...

my main problem isn't really the stuttering with RT, but the streaming itself

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it happens both with RT on or off

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the streaming is just super ass

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or well, it's rough with 2 CCDs active. using only one fixes it slightly, but it still sutters as it pins the CPU to 100% streaming shit in

echo ridge Dec 28, 2025, 10:46 PM

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grave tiger again, 3d cache makes it so it doesnt really care

i dont know who started this misinfo campaign

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3d cache isnt a magical bullet to compensate for slow ram

grave tiger Dec 28, 2025, 10:48 PM

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maybe i didnt express myself well, but a 6000 or even 5600 expo for a x3d changes very little compared to 6200/6400 at tighter timings

true bay Dec 28, 2025, 11:47 PM

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wait so my 7800x3d and 6000 combo obsolete? deadge

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 12:34 AM

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grave tiger ping whoever you want but you'll never notice a difference in gaming between a 6...

You are correct in this if the speed remains same.

You’ll get some better lows by lowering latency but nothing to write home about.

And AIDA benches are as useful as tits on a boar, can easily game them. It’s useless, so they’re whatever.

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Now, as MPaul pointed out.

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In certain games that do enjoy faster memory? Think Tarkov, FN, MH Wilds, strategy games, et al.

You can get a 10-15% boost in performance when you tighten everything up and compare something like 6000CL30 to 6400CL30.

You won’t see that type of gain in everything, though. But those titles that do enjoy faster memory? You will.

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I’ll hop on PC in a minute to show results in Wilds on 9800X3D

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Before I moved to 9950X3D

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6000/6400, both were same timings and CL30.

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Then I moved to 9950X3D, perf stayed same.

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But then one dumbass BIOS ruined my OC.

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And I couldn't do 6400CL30 anymore.

So, I went with 6200CL30, but raised up FCLK and broke 1:1 for better avg. FCLK seems to be really helpful for avg FPS, but stayed CL30 anyway.

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This was the closest I could bring it back to what perf used to be, otherwise ech.

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There's more than just lows and avg fps gains as well in scenarios where those games will happily eat up memory.

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In case of Tarkov, you effectively eliminate all the micro-stutters that it's really known for. It becomes a night and day game difference as you tighten things up a bit.

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FN also got a good chunk of FPS gain at my end.

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 12:41 AM

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smoky wind In *certain* games that do enjoy faster memory? Think Tarkov, FN, MH Wilds, stra...

But like mentioned earlier, you won't see much benefit in like idk ... 99% of the games out there if I had to guess, but those few that really do enjoy it, you definitely will.

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AI workload will also see nice gains if you tighten it all up, but as far as games go, there aren't that many that you'd get as drastic a change.

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Also, this is DR so 6400 there is 6600 SR, and 6200 is about 6400 SR. Approx.

grave tiger Dec 29, 2025, 12:53 AM

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Fair, i don't really play those games so I wasn't aware of the difference there, the only one I was aware of is BG3

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also i dont think theres much of a performance difference with sr and dr with ddr5, maybe with a dual ccd like yours but i doubt

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 12:58 AM

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Nah, it's there with DDR5 as well. But I don't have that data rn, we compared SR and DR data in SK server last year and I'm not there anymore. Can find it in hardware channel if you are so keen.

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Might be less than DDR4, though. That I'm not sure about, tbh.

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 12:58 AM

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grave tiger Fair, i don't really play those games so I wasn't aware of the difference there,...

Anything beyond 6000CL30 is mitigating returns, 6200 more so, 6400 even more so.

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6600? Good luck if you can get it to run stable.

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But simply not worth the gains with the amount of testing/tweaking required.

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6400 is still relatively okay with high-end kits and systems, if you luck out with good IMC.

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I have a custom kit

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7200 MT/s OOTB, I had two profiles installed just for the heck of it, XMP and EXPO.

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Can't do 7200 MT/s on Ryzen, so it gives me future proofing when they get their shit together. Let's see what happens end of this year.

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But for like ... idk, almost everyone out there getting a PC for gaming, unless you really wanna build it around a certain game(s), it's just ideal to buy a decent 6000CL30 kit and call it a day.

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And not spend more.

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For me, it was Tarkov, thus here we are.

grave tiger Dec 29, 2025, 1:00 AM

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mine boots 6600 1:1 but crashes 1h into prime95 and karhu

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 1:00 AM

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I also don't really recommend OC'ing RAM, it's the worst, so.

grave tiger Dec 29, 2025, 1:01 AM

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yeah i just gave up

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 1:01 AM

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Yeah, I think mine was failing in MemTest alone off a USB, lol.

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But DR is a bitch, so.

grave tiger Dec 29, 2025, 1:01 AM

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i also have dr, its a pain

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 1:01 AM

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6400 became unstable for me where it'd throw errors in Karhu about 10-15hrs in.

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Shouldn't have updated BIOS

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sadKEK

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Apparently the new ones have fixed it, but I haven't bothered, I'm happy with how it is rn, lol.

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Mainly cause don't have time to stress test it again anytime soon.

grave tiger Dec 29, 2025, 1:02 AM

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cant be worse than mine where sometimes the bios decides to make all pcie stuck at 1.1

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and i have to force it to run at maximum speed

smoky wind Dec 29, 2025, 1:02 AM

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grave tiger Dec 29, 2025, 1:03 AM

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kekpepehands

echo ridge Dec 29, 2025, 3:11 AM

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@glad mauve im switching to mobile for wuthering waves

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Vulkan + FG on mobile

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Solid 120 frames

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Ive never seen this game so smooth

glad mauve Dec 29, 2025, 6:18 AM

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so you're playing a version of the game with 2 metre draw distance and no RT

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yh I would expect good perf on it using PC hardware

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if perf was still dogshit I would rage

alpine kestrel Dec 29, 2025, 6:54 AM

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@halcyon meteor push fork to github pls

burnt oyster Dec 29, 2025, 1:02 PM

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turning on RT kinda makes stutter happens much more often this patch

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tried without and it's heaven

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i only enabled rtgi

midnight tide Dec 29, 2025, 1:17 PM

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I have only a few stutters in this game, the problem is the low overall performance

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very few stutters but between 70 and 90 fps in the new area with dlss Q at 4k using a 5090

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with dlaa im at like 40ish fps

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Would Zani Ciacconia + Lynae/Mornye work? Which would be best?

Which would be best? I don't have shoreekeper so my account really needs Mornye

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wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:01 PM

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red nebula Would Zani Ciacconia + Lynae/Mornye work? Which would be best? Which would be b...

Not really, Zani requires Phoebe

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 6:01 PM

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wet crane Not really, Zani requires Phoebe

She doesn't really require Phoebe, Phoebe is best in slot

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:01 PM

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I mean it works but its not going to be an efficient team

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 6:01 PM

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but I don't have Phoebe

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:02 PM

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if you want to clear the new endgame mode then nope

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its not going to work

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Lynae is good with Iuno, Galbrena, Augusta, XLY

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Morney is good with Iuno, Augusta, Galbrena/Qiuyuan, Phrolova, Brant/Lupa, Carlotta

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And ofc you can use Lynae with Morney

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I think Lynae is the better addition to your roaster

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You can use her with XLY

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thats a really strong team

echo ridge Dec 29, 2025, 6:10 PM

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wet crane if you want to clear the new endgame mode then nope

i've been getting 5.8k with my canta qiuyuan phro team

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what the heck is going on

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then i dropped off to like ~4k on my other teams

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:11 PM

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echo ridge i've been getting 5.8k with my canta qiuyuan phro team

I can do ~7k with phrolova team

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and 8k with carthweel

echo ridge Dec 29, 2025, 6:11 PM

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yea my cartwheel only does 4k

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but then again

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i will not roll

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:11 PM

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but i can barely do 5k with the rest

echo ridge Dec 29, 2025, 6:11 PM

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for the bard

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:11 PM

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yea you need the bard haha

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I like her fortunately

echo ridge Dec 29, 2025, 6:13 PM

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god i fucking hate her

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:13 PM

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she is a really good sub dps too

echo ridge Dec 29, 2025, 6:13 PM

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cart + rover + chisa

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 6:13 PM

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I just turned off her liberation music

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the only character I cant stand at all is Zhezhi

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and maybe Phoebe

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 6:44 PM

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wet crane I think Lynae is the better addition to your roaster

Lynae over Morny? Hmm

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even though I don't have shorekeeper?

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 6:45 PM

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wet crane You can use her with XLY

my poor, poor Yinlin...discarded by Kuro

vital moss Dec 29, 2025, 6:45 PM

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echo ridge for the bard

Cocaine

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Changlotta

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red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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wet crane Morney is good with Iuno, Augusta, Galbrena/Qiuyuan, Phrolova, Brant/Lupa, Carlo...

I would use Changli, Brant and Morny

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:16 PM

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red nebula Lynae over Morny? Hmm

yes, Morney is not replacing Shorekeeper

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Morney helps with off-tune stuff which is the new mechanic of 3.0

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so yea she is also good, but Lynae is the more universal subdps/buffer

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both character are kinda must pulls tbh haha

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:26 PM

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wet crane yes, Morney is not replacing Shorekeeper

I don't have shorekeeper though

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:29 PM

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red nebula I don't have shorekeeper though

If you want a healer then Morney is not a good one 😄

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Shorekeeper is not a great healer either

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:29 PM

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wet crane If you want a healer then Morney is not a good one 😄

the uninstall button is looking pretty interesting right now...

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:30 PM

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wet crane Shorekeeper is not a great healer either

wut

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:30 PM

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Yea she is a mid healer

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people use her because she buffs CR and CD%

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:33 PM

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my main interest right now is a third slot for Zani - Ciacconia

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I really don't want Spectro Rover

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this game is kinda disappointing in so many ways

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:33 PM

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yea ciaconna can replace phoebe

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but you need to use spectro rover

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with ciaconna

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:34 PM

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wet crane but you need to use spectro rover

feels super bad...

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:34 PM

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i feel you

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i hated aero rover too

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thats why I pulled chisa

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:35 PM

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wet crane thats why I pulled chisa

poor Chisa got shafted just because she wasn't 3.0

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:35 PM

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but if you want to deal damage then you need to use her :/

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:35 PM

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this is why I stopped playing gacha games

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:35 PM

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I don’t play wuwa for the story

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the story is mid at best

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:36 PM

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I'm talking about gameplay here

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:36 PM

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oh I have no issues with the gameplay

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Chisa is an awesome character

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:36 PM

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with 1 team?

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:37 PM

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especially for exploring the map and grouping enemies

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:37 PM

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idk

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:37 PM

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red nebula with 1 team?

for now

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:37 PM

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maybe she'll age like wine

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:37 PM

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Chisa is going to be a main support in 3.0

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I love using her

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Lynae is the other one

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:38 PM

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she's really beautiful

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:38 PM

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exploring the map with her is awesome

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Chisa I mean

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:38 PM

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she is a Japanese school girl

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:38 PM

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her design is 10/10

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:38 PM

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I like her outfit and weapon but thats it

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but her kit is cool yea

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:39 PM

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aesthetics are top notch

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idk about her kit, don't have her

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my favourite character is Changli, if only using burst with her forte full did something

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:40 PM

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Yea Changi is the best 1.x char imo

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:40 PM

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wet crane Yea Changi is the best 1.x char imo

she's my favourite gacha char in general

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:40 PM

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I love using her in the Galbrena+Lupa team

red nebula Dec 29, 2025, 7:41 PM

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wet crane I love using her in the Galbrena+Lupa team

I wanted Lupa so bad

wet crane Dec 29, 2025, 7:41 PM

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Lupa is great in mono fusion teams

midnight tide Dec 29, 2025, 9:57 PM

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the new hologram boss actually made me sweat a little bit

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my carte/chisa team without ciaconna had to try just to beat her in time

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funlily enough I had less trouble with my Jinshi team shrug

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 12:11 AM

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midnight tide my carte/chisa team without ciaconna had to try just to beat her in time

you were running out of time ? xD

verbal schooner Dec 30, 2025, 2:36 AM

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bike too jank

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map too empty

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but it was ok i guess

grave tiger Dec 30, 2025, 2:50 AM

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midnight tide the new hologram boss actually made me sweat a little bit

I hate it

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i hate flying enemies

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also the camera not following with controller doesn't help

gusty marlin Dec 30, 2025, 2:54 AM

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@edgy bloom In the new version of Zenless Zone Zero, the brightness setting doesn't seem to take effect; only the UI brightness can be adjusted.

grave tiger Dec 30, 2025, 2:56 AM

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wrong chat bud

gusty marlin Dec 30, 2025, 2:57 AM

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I know, lm sorry, but there doesn't seem to be a ZZZ chat channel

grave tiger Dec 30, 2025, 2:59 AM

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there is in the HDR Den

gusty marlin Dec 30, 2025, 3:00 AM

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I should've gone to the Unity channel to chat, my apologies.👀

bleak light Dec 30, 2025, 3:43 AM

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verbal schooner bike too jank

so fast, u fully upgraded the bike and repair the road?

verbal schooner Dec 30, 2025, 3:51 AM

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bike still missing some upgrades since i still have to do the event stuff, but road repair is done

burnt oyster Dec 30, 2025, 6:55 AM

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are you guys gonna grab s1 mornye or just s0

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sig doesn't look that good tbh

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still wonder if she'll go with the pink hair

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 7:22 AM

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wet crane you were running out of time ? xD

yeah I had 40s left

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 7:23 AM

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grave tiger i hate flying enemies

tbh the flying aspect didnt bother me much (im on MnK) but the damage it was doing... I had to focus on actually learning the pattern for once frenzy

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I underestimated how bad cartwheel is without ciaconna

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like she still does damage but you have to try way harder to maintain erosion stacks

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and the boss being havoc, my chisa does barely any damage, and A rover does...Well A rover damage frenzy

echo ridge Dec 30, 2025, 7:55 AM

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@wet crane lynae ended up more fun than i thought

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Pulled for her even though chracter wise shes pretty meh

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 8:43 AM

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echo ridge <@504732204887179275> lynae ended up more fun than i thought

yea she is, and I don’t really like her as a character either

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 8:49 AM

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til the framerate is unlocked in the login menu

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 9:14 AM

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dapper flare til the framerate is unlocked in the login menu

yea it is

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 9:15 AM

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echo ridge Pulled for her even though chracter wise shes pretty meh

Kuro likes her more than other characters, the Lynae marketing is crazy

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:25 AM

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wet crane Kuro likes her more than other characters, the Lynae marketing is crazy

Yet, they messed up her introduction in the story and her overall backstory

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I think that was one of the weakest story I've seen for a character

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excluding 1.x cast ofc

grave tiger Dec 30, 2025, 11:55 AM

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midnight tide tbh the flying aspect didnt bother me much (im on MnK) but the damage it was doi...

yeah you actually have to think with this boss, but i still hate flying enemies

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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midnight tide I think that was one of the weakest story I've seen for a character

I agree, she is nothing special really

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:00 PM

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I mean we barely explored her past like wtf ? This is the most interesting part of her story it's like 3 minutes of screentime

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:01 PM

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her backstory is like “ new fedaration is gohtam and it sucked to live there” ok lets move on

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:02 PM

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wet crane her backstory is like “ new fedaration is gohtam and it sucked to live there” ok...

basically yes...The fractidus are not even shown except at the very begining

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:02 PM

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yea lol

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:03 PM

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If Mornye wasnt coming up next, I would say we would get more of her in the next phase but....

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:03 PM

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I really hope that part2 of the story is better

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:03 PM

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my hopes are down tbh

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:03 PM

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she is going to be like carlotta I think

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:03 PM

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carlotta had her dedicated quest

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:03 PM

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she is going to appear for a few more quests

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:04 PM

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midnight tide carlotta had her dedicated quest

yea lol a whole companion quest that was longer than the 3.0 main mission

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:05 PM

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I hate to say this but Genshin quest are better crafted

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each character has his dedicated companion quest

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and the main quest is related to the archon and every other character

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:05 PM

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the new genshin patch is miles better than what we have in wuwa atm

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:05 PM

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I have to agree...

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and it pains me to say so

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:05 PM

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yeah…

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I dont like genshin’s combat and gameplay

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:06 PM

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the reaction system is very good tho

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:06 PM

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and I hate paimon

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:06 PM

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like all of us basically

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I think the gameplay is my problem even tho the combat system is good

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on a deep level, it's on par with wuwa

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 4:07 PM

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midnight tide the reaction system is very good tho

yeah I mean wuwa is a lot more fun imo

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:08 PM

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wet crane yeah I mean wuwa is a lot more fun imo

the impact frame are better, overall animation are better, ultimate are better

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so yeah sure

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frenzy

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but tbh exploration and story wise genshin is eating wuwa every day

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:20 PM

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is the exploration in newer genshin regions actually not snoozeworthy

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(dropped game on tail end of sumeru)

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played a tiny bit of fontaine but not much. and the swimming gimmick didn't really fix much

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oh and out of combat sprint being limited is psychotic

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that's probably the main problem with its exploration

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:44 PM

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dapper flare that's probably the main problem with its exploration

This is not really problematic imo as there is many character that boost stamina and have some gimmicks which allows you to move faster

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Genshin does puzzle better, environment better, hidden quest better and artistic direction better

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Which directly impact the exploration

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:45 PM

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requiring a character that you probably don't want for exploration is ass though

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:45 PM

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dapper flare requiring a character that you probably don't want for exploration is ass though

It truly is

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The new region allows you to move around freely

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:46 PM

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and hard disagree on better environment and art direction imo

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:46 PM

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But not the same freedom as wuwa

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:47 PM

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it's a decent looking game don't get me wrong. but it's a mobile game first and foremost and it shows

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:47 PM

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dapper flare and hard disagree on better environment and art direction imo

If there is a point where genshin does way better its there imo

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Wuwa environnement are not on par

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Graphics are a different subject

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:48 PM

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max settings on genshin has low res ass textures, mediocre geometry quality, and honestly kinda mid performance given the games looks.

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it's a game I would have expected my a770 to get a 4k60 lock, but it somehow doesn't despite not looking great

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shit. even wuwa looked better on that same GPU at 4k with a mix of medium + low RT and XeSS.

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:50 PM

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I agree on everything you said but genshin never caused me any trouble with its optimization

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While i need to edit my wuwa ini every patch

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:50 PM

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midnight tide Wuwa environnement are not on par

my 800 wuwa screenshots from the last few months begs to differ

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:50 PM

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To deal with the atrocious optimization

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:51 PM

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dapper flare my 800 wuwa screenshots from the last few months begs to differ

I guess it’s preference at the end of the day but to me wuwa environment are not great

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:51 PM

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the illustrations in wuwa are simply better, the environments are simply better, though the character designs are a tossup imo.

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maybe I'm just basing my experience on 3 year old data idk. but there's been nothing in genshin that truly made me go "holy shit" like wuwa has with its environments

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midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:54 PM

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When i walk into a random area in wuwa

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Like the whole septimont part feel like some c/c of assets

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:54 PM

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i get you can't make a desert especially interesting. but like man have you even touched the later half of sumeru lol

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fuckin snoozer of an environment

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:55 PM

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Sumeru is the worst region by far

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I give you that

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Even tho the underground stuff is very cool

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There is basically no underground in wuwa

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You have like 2 or 3 spot in septimont

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But the rest is just caves and shit

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:56 PM

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like i could not name a single landmark in genshin anymore despite having quadruple digit hours in it

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besides main cities obv

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:56 PM

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I mean you seem to dislike heavily the game

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Is there some kind of biais ?

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:57 PM

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i have spent far more both money and time in genshin impact than I have wuwa. sunk cost fallacy would have hit me like a truck

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:57 PM

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Fair enough that just different taste then

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:57 PM

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it's not bad itself. but its just simply "decent"

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:57 PM

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I could link you all my screenshot taken in genshin, sadly I lost my folder with everything in it

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Ive seen some screenshots of the new region tho and it is genuinely fire

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:58 PM

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ive even tried to fire back up genshin in recent times to no avail, it just simply does not hit like it used to

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:58 PM

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Same goes for me pal

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 4:58 PM

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i play for like 1hr, go "meh" and uninstall the game that took me 2 1/2 days to download

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 4:59 PM

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dapper flare i play for like 1hr, go "meh" and uninstall the game that took me 2 1/2 days to ...

I feel the same with every gacha games atm to be fair

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 5:00 PM

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i only now just came back to wuwa, took a break during 2.4 and returned at tail end of honami

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 7:25 PM

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midnight tide but tbh exploration and story wise genshin is eating wuwa every day

the exploration is meh in genshin imo, the characters are slow, and climbing is not fun

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I mean sure you can use character gimmicks to get around faster, but it's still meh

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The new region/patch tempted me to return to genshin, but I can't

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 7:40 PM

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wet crane The new region/patch tempted me to return to genshin, but I can't

return and try it for me bro Stronge

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im actually hesitating

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3.0 truly disappointed me

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 8:18 PM

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midnight tide 3.0 truly disappointed me

The map and stuff are great imo

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and I don't play gachas for the story 😄

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as long as the gameplay and the characters are fun it's fine imo

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 8:32 PM

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wet crane as long as the gameplay and the characters are fun it's fine imo

when you're F2P or very low spender you cant always rely on character to appreciate a gacha

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especially when their story is underwhelming

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then again, wuwa gameplay loop is very good but not enough to make me appreciate the update

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I find the map mid tbh but I really dislike the cyberpunk setting to begin with so yeah that was not for me

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 8:47 PM

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yea I love sci-fi and cyberpunk a lot more than fantasy

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 8:50 PM

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that explains a lot then yeah it's the opposite for me

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Rinascita felt like a panicked hard pivot into a kind of half hearted fantasy setting. I find Laha-Roi to be far more confident if that makes sense.

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 8:54 PM

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limber dune Rinascita felt like a panicked hard pivot into a kind of half hearted fantasy se...

I feel you, it does fit the post apo vibe the game had before better

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but I still find the first region to be better overall setting wise

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 8:57 PM

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I like Black Shores aesthetically but the whole area feels like something you save for later

alpine orchid Dec 30, 2025, 9:00 PM

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wet crane the exploration is meh in genshin imo, the characters are slow, and climbing is ...

Yeah this really killed the open world in genshin for me. I enjoy that significantly more in wuwa

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:04 PM

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Genshin is better at world design and hiding all kinds of interesting things in nooks and crannies. WuWa is just a check list of things to do. But actually navigating the world is leagues better in WuWa. You just kind of have to make your own fun with the wide swaths of empty land that is technically more realistic than a chest or puzzle every 2 feet.

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:07 PM

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limber dune Genshin is better at world design and hiding all kinds of interesting things in ...

I agree but I'd rather explore a better crafted world with caveats than exploring a souless one with ease

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like I might be a bit too harsh on this but this new area feels so souless

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like every genshin region has its own identity. You can walk up in a new area feeling like you've legit traveled across the world

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in wuwa you can say black shore belongs to lahai roi nobody would break a sweat

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:10 PM

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Oh I can definitely see that. It's cribbing a lot from the optimistic retrofuturism of the 50s but with anime cyberpunk aesthetics that kind of clash? So there's no distinct stand out look because it's too mashed together.

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I see what they're going for and I appreciate it but it's not a how can you not see it thing because it's not perfect by any means

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Laha-Roi feels like a theme park lol

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:12 PM

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limber dune Laha-Roi feels like a theme park lol

yeah I kinda agree, plus mixing it with the school like theme was really a risky bet

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let's see if that pays off

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:13 PM

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WuWa's biggest audience is now Japan so they're probably aiming straight for what they think will do well there

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Going overtly Japanese high school anime with everything is a pretty calculated choice

dusty tiger Dec 30, 2025, 9:15 PM

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wet crane her backstory is like “ new fedaration is gohtam and it sucked to live there” ok...

Wish we went there instead for 3.0

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:15 PM

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For the longest time, that was what all the leakers were saying

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I think they could do a lot of interesting stuff with a region that is openly hostile to resonators whereas Laha Roi is just the Xavier Mansion

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:16 PM

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limber dune Going overtly Japanese high school anime with everything is a pretty calculated ...

yeah but the setting is kinda unusual for that

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:17 PM

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limber dune I think they could do a lot of interesting stuff with a region that is openly ho...

maybe this kinda stuff is planned for the new federation

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:17 PM

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limber dune WuWa's biggest audience is now Japan so they're probably aiming straight for wha...

I thought it was china ?

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:18 PM

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WuWa is a Chinese game but they have consistently screwed the pooch in their home territory and are constantly on a back foot there. It was the global audience, and especially Japan, that has made them successful.

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They completely changed the 1.0 story to appease Chinese incels but it just didn't actually do anything for them and it turned off a lot of regular players.

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It still has the problem of every character relates solely through Rover and exist solely for them. It's a very JP gacha character dynamic that's appealing to that market.

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:21 PM

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you're not wrong I mean the 2.6 Iuno arc is typically japanese trope

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I dont mind it honestly, unless it impacts negatively the overall story

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:22 PM

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Oh, I don't mind that so much as throwing away characters as soon as their banner ends.

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Going from Lupa is the best gladiator to time for the hunt and Lupa is nowhere to be found so you don't think about her while pulling for Augusta and Iuno. It sucks.

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Something Hoyo is really good at is not only making every character glaze the protagonist so players like them but they relate to the other characters in the world and have relationships with each other.

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:25 PM

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limber dune Something Hoyo is really good at is not only making every character glaze the pr...

and they also have an established place into the world for most of them

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:25 PM

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A lot of this could be fixed if Kuro just did events featuring past characters. Let's go back to Huanglong for a tournament or something.

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:25 PM

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you hear about them even before their banner drops

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they're pretty much connected to each other

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on a large scale

alpine orchid Dec 30, 2025, 9:26 PM

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Yeah wuwa has great writing on a small scale but they struggle to tie a lot of it together

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This gets so frustrating in games lol

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:26 PM

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2.7 was honestly pathetic in how badly they were trying to pull off an Endgame

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:26 PM

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this is actually the strategy im rooting for right now, but in the meantime you dont really have fun

alpine orchid Dec 30, 2025, 9:27 PM

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limber dune 2.7 was honestly pathetic in how badly they were trying to pull off an Endgame

It could've been better but I'm glad they at least made an effort lol

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:27 PM

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limber dune 2.7 was honestly pathetic in how badly they were trying to pull off an Endgame

the avengers scene was cool and all but lacked any deep meaning

alpine orchid Dec 30, 2025, 9:27 PM

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||Calcharo|| showing up made no sense at all but at least he finally got a few lines kekpepehands

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:28 PM

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Chisa is probably my favorite story in the game so far and made me appreciate how good they are just writing stand alone stories

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:29 PM

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yup Chisa story was good but largely disconnected from the rest of solaris

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:29 PM

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For them to set up some more Chisa in 3.0 and she's gone

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||Oh hey Rover, I met my parents while you were spiraling through space time. It was neat. I'm good. See ya. Be sure to tap Lynae's ass for me. ||

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:30 PM

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she was kinda worried not seeing you right away at the academy but that's about it

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:30 PM

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We got a text and an optional 2 sentences of dialog

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Anyway it's never good to introduice a whole new setting with just one character

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Like it's not hard to write Chisa in to the Lynae story where she gets to make a friend and Lynae has someone to bounce off of who isn't a love interest

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It's not hard and it makes your characters more alive

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And Kuro is massively underestimating the polycule/harem fandom that would eat this shit up

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 9:35 PM

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limber dune And Kuro is massively underestimating the polycule/harem fandom that would eat t...

they have the very example in front of their eyes

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aka their biggest competitor

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but I would say they're making more female character release compared to genshin

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making the "gathering wives" meme pretty accurate

limber dune Dec 30, 2025, 9:36 PM

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Yeah releasing two males over the entirety of 2.x was pretty brazen on their part and kind of tells what kind of audience they actually want

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But they're more than happy to throw some Brant body pillows at the girlies who quit their game a year ago

wet crane Dec 30, 2025, 10:08 PM

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limber dune Genshin is better at world design and hiding all kinds of interesting things in ...

yea wuwa killed exploration with the easy chest locating

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1.0 was a lot better

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yea people hated the hidden chests but exploration was more rewarding

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girls are starved

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like Luuke is a pretty generic male character

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but girls love him

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and they are spending a lot if astrites to s6 all male characters

midnight tide Dec 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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wet crane yea wuwa killed exploration with the easy chest locating

this doesnt bother me as the same thing exists in genshin (granted you have to craft the detector but this is just bad QoL implementation)

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this is not what's killing the exploration in wuwa but just the lack of hidden things

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including quests

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and the overall lack of diversity regarding the different places (underground and such)

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 11:57 PM

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alpine orchid ||Calcharo|| showing up made no sense at all but at least he finally got a few l...

The ending scene was cool but like. I don't even remember who the hell this guy is lol

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Did he even have any lines in 1.x

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I genuinely don't remember

alpine orchid Dec 30, 2025, 11:58 PM

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dapper flare The ending scene was cool but like. I don't even remember who the hell this guy ...

I'm jealous. He reminds me of his existence nearly every patch when I pull him kekpepehands

alpine orchid Dec 30, 2025, 11:58 PM

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dapper flare Did he even have any lines in 1.x

Nope, not a single one

dapper flare Dec 30, 2025, 11:58 PM

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Can't have him remind you of his existence when you haven't played the game in half a year

alpine orchid Dec 30, 2025, 11:59 PM

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He probably could tbh despairge

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Nightmares exist kekwanimated

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 12:00 AM

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Like. It's something even GFL2 has done decently. At least they mention the standard banner characters and have their respective squads where wuwa? I haven't seen one mentioned at all besides the shoehorning of calcharo

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And that's with GFL2's fuck ass 6 month story gap

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Maybe it's a writer thing. Kuro invested all their points into art design and forgot writing lmao

verbal schooner Dec 31, 2025, 4:39 AM

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just needed one more crit to get all the astrites 😭

bleak light Dec 31, 2025, 4:56 AM

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verbal schooner just needed one more crit to get all the astrites 😭

put ur strongest team as late as possible

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round 2 bosses had higher hp

verbal schooner Dec 31, 2025, 5:05 AM

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I just needed more hands

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don't think I have enough teams to clear the rest of it tbh

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might try again when I get Mornye

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 9:32 AM

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alpine orchid I'm jealous. He reminds me of his existence nearly every patch when I pull him <...

weird thing with wuwa, is me losing every 50/50 to the two same characters

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I lost 7 in a row until now, and it was always verina or the other monk girl

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never got any of the other standard characters

wet crane Dec 31, 2025, 10:24 AM

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midnight tide I lost 7 in a row until now, and it was always verina or the other monk girl

I got 6 Calculators!

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2 Verinas, 3 Lion Boys, 2 Sheep Girls, 2 Monk Girls I think

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I lost almost all 50/50

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I won 3-4 maybe

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5EgxPj5cpI interesting watch, the character models/attention to details are nice

YouTube

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"We took our Time on Her.. 😏" 15+ INSANE 3D Details, Secrets & I...

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3.0 characters are a lot more detailed, well Chisa+Lynae

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:06 AM

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midnight tide I lost 7 in a row until now, and it was always verina or the other monk girl

i wish i lost 50/50s on verina. maybe her dupes would make her not ass to play. instead i get lion boy and hes just ass no matter what.

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:17 AM

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dapper flare i wish i lost 50/50s on verina. maybe her dupes would make her not ass to play. ...

if she belongs to the emptiness of my box, it doesnt even matter if she's S6 or not tbf bolenbwa

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I currently have no team for her

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:18 AM

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the only other supports i have are buling and cantarella so I kinda have to use her

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:18 AM

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you don't have sk ?

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:18 AM

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albeit ive dropped her in favor of buling since her rotations are less 💤

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nah

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:19 AM

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yeah building her could be beneficial in your case I agree

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or maybe try to get Mornye

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:19 AM

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i mean she was the only support i've had for a while

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:20 AM

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cantarella is more of a sub dps than a support tbh

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:20 AM

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pulled canta last patch, i just need roccia to finish off havoc team

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:20 AM

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you have chisa ?

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:20 AM

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nah

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didnt come back in time

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:21 AM

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Think the only viable havoc team would be chisa cantarella Phrolova

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:21 AM

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just run duo subdps with roccia/canta

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:21 AM

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maybe Camillya if you're a chad

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:21 AM

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however currently yeah im running camellya

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:22 AM

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it is really bizarre the number of people losing 50/50ies in this game

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:22 AM

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then use phrolova as off field subdps lmao

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my only non bricked team is glacio with carlotta/zhezhi/buling

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:23 AM

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sk would be so much better there

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:23 AM

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i have a zani to build however that involves grinding for her now

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:23 AM

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you have Phoebe ?

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:23 AM

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but it'd give me a spectro team too with zani/phoebe/verina

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:24 AM

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decent

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:24 AM

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however i just don't feel like doing so because grinding is fucking annoying

midnight tide Dec 31, 2025, 11:25 AM

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in wuwa the grind is actually chill compared to other gacha tbf

dapper flare Dec 31, 2025, 11:26 AM

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i mean tbf my only recent benchmark is gfl2 with "just auto the stage in 5 seconds"

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id rather chip away at my 7000 sidequests/exploration versus grind

verbal schooner Dec 31, 2025, 1:19 PM

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Zani team is peak https://youtu.be/ySZ0E7qrbxg

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wet crane Dec 31, 2025, 2:34 PM

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verbal schooner Zani team is peak https://youtu.be/ySZ0E7qrbxg

yea and the Cartwheel team can do 12-13k too

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augusta+iuno 10k

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but Zani is really hard to play efficiently :/

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so it's even more impressive, it requires a lot of skill to pull of something like this

verbal schooner Dec 31, 2025, 3:17 PM

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Ya very clean rotations. That zani quick swap into rover tune break was pretty cool.

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Sucks they wep lock in this mode. I'm missing a lot of sig weps and just share the ones I have so it's pretty rough

frosty gulch Jan 1, 2026, 1:26 AM

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What's the button to open up Reshade again?

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Found it

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 9:32 AM

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My GPU starts doing weird shit with even the most minimal undervolt

fluid shuttle Jan 1, 2026, 1:26 PM

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Can Renodx run in a DX11 environment?

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 1:38 PM

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dim isle My GPU starts doing weird shit with even the most minimal undervolt

What is your stock voltage?

vital moss Jan 1, 2026, 2:30 PM

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fluid shuttle Can Renodx run in a DX11 environment?

Yes

echo ridge Jan 1, 2026, 2:48 PM

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vital moss Yes

Yes but no

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Dx11 isnt patched

vital moss Jan 1, 2026, 2:52 PM

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Oh yeah

fluid shuttle Jan 1, 2026, 2:53 PM

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Means that it can't work with wwmi? I renamed it and injected it as dxgi layer, got the menu but no renodx

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Oh no, forget about that, I forgot put the addon into the folder, it can be run, gonna have some fun. Chisa's city is wonderful.

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Thank u guys

vital moss Jan 1, 2026, 3:03 PM

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fluid shuttle Thank u guys

It will but new regions won't have proper hdr

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Afaik it stopped around Honami region

fluid shuttle Jan 1, 2026, 3:05 PM

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OK, I will enjoy the on last region though. xddd

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:29 PM

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dusty tiger What is your stock voltage?

Like the curve?

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:31 PM

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Just what is the average voltage you see it at when it is under load? The curve will go higher than what you will ever use

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:31 PM

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Oic

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I’ll check that

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Also do you also get random 2 second black screens while playing games/browsing

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:33 PM

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No. Sounds like a driver crash.

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:33 PM

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Happens for 1 second then comes back

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Idk if my GPU is dying or it’s the nvidia drivers fucking up again or if it’s an unstable undervolt

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:35 PM

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I would run DDU (in Windows Safe Mode) and reinstall the driver.
Usually that fixes a lot of the little issues people have.

I would do that before you start going down the path of something being seriously wrong.

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When you use DDU I would recommend using these settings too.

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:39 PM

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It used to happen randomly while browsing

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:40 PM

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Browsing the internet?
Could still be the GPU. Most browsers are GPU accelerated.

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:40 PM

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But yesterday (today) it started in AW2 as well so I reinstalled 581.94 using DDU

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Still saw another instance again in AW2

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So I ran it at stock and it didn’t happen for an hour on stock

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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Try a more recent driver

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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While playing

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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dusty tiger Try a more recent driver

I had the latest driver

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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Nvidia?

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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I saw people say it was the latest one

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Yeah

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5090

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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What card?

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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Ventus

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:41 PM

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591.44 is latest

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:42 PM

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No, there was a hotfix driver after that

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:42 PM

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Actually, 591.59 now.

midnight tide Jan 1, 2026, 3:42 PM

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seems like a bad undervolt making the gpu crash

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:43 PM

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midnight tide seems like a bad undervolt making the gpu crash

Also this. If it stops when you go back to default then it's your settings doing it most likely

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:44 PM

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See that would make sense but previously when a bad UV made the GPU crash it didn’t just drop the signal, it still had some audio and the screen froze and it sent me to the desktop with a 153 in event viewer

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This does not send me to the event viewer

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*desktop

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:44 PM

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That said. Latest driver does have 50 series stability fixes.
But your issue sounds more like what you were trying to set just wasn't stable.

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:45 PM

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dim isle See that would make sense but previously when a bad UV made the GPU crash it did...

It can be anything. Stability isn't limited to 1 symptom

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:45 PM

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With this when the GPU « crashes » it just drops the signal and my monitor says there is no signal but the audio still plays

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:46 PM

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dim isle With this when the GPU « crashes » it just drops the signal and my monitor says ...

Yes. Because it is brobably a gpu driver crash caused by gpu instability.

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:46 PM

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Happened twice yesterday, once while playing AW2 and once after I turned the monitor on after leaving it off for a bit it just didn’t recognize the signal

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It’s similar to the early days of 50 series with the black screens

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:48 PM

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Just sounds like your undervolt might have been too aggressive and it was crashing

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:49 PM

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Maybe

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:49 PM

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Think most 50 series run around 1000mV (1V)
Mine crashes if I go below 950mV for example.

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 3:49 PM

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Could be yeah

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Could be that I lost the silicon lottery

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 3:50 PM

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Happens to the best of us. ^^;
At least it's still a 5090

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 4:05 PM

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If it’s failing tho 😑

alpine orchid Jan 1, 2026, 4:10 PM

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It's weird because a lot of 5090s can do like +600-900 on core at 875-900mV under heavy loads but the points below that can be very unstable and crash you

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So it's easy to follow an undervolt guide, stress test it a while and think you're stable, then boom it crashes kek

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 4:11 PM

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alpine orchid It's weird because a lot of 5090s can do like +600-900 on core at 875-900mV unde...

Depends on the lottery and on what the default curve is.
+600 doesn't really mean anything on it's own.

alpine orchid Jan 1, 2026, 4:19 PM

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dusty tiger Depends on the lottery and on what the default curve is. +600 doesn't really mea...

It's plenty meaningful enough when the range is 300mhz. But if we're going to be like that, I mean many can do around 2500-2800 at much lower than stock volts but can't do those offsets at the lower parts of the curve

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And it doesn't help when you see people post their undervolts online that they haven't discovered are unstable yet 😄

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 4:21 PM

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alpine orchid It's plenty meaningful enough when the range is 300mhz. But if we're going to b...

Absolute numbers are just much clearer to interpret.
Even better if you have voltages to go with the clocks. But I don't expect that.

alpine orchid Jan 1, 2026, 4:28 PM

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dusty tiger Absolute numbers are just much clearer to interpret. Even better if you have vol...

There are times to be specific and there are times when a ballpark is just fine

wet crane Jan 1, 2026, 4:43 PM

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Aemeath is coming in 3.1 kekpepehands

midnight tide Jan 1, 2026, 5:10 PM

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wet crane Aemeath is coming in 3.1 <:kekpepehands:1409649023870173377>

yay another broken character meta defining coming in shortly after the other

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I observe that when genshin does it, this is outrageous and bad, but with wuwa no issue

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they clearly going the wrong path with this dont care what anybody says

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 5:19 PM

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It certainly isn't great when it happens in any game.
idk about Genshin. But I CAN say that the issue with HSR was that if you didn't keep up with current meta teams you got fucked in endgame.
Which is the ultimate issue.

dim isle Jan 1, 2026, 6:01 PM

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dusty tiger That said. Latest driver does have 50 series stability fixes. But your issue sou...

turns out ive been on windows 11 24H2 could that be it??

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idk why im on 24h2

midnight tide Jan 1, 2026, 6:20 PM

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dusty tiger It certainly isn't great when it happens in any game. idk about Genshin. But I C...

HP inflation will go up, it's not a matter of if but more when

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but I agree this doesnt seem to be an issue "right now"

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basically the same problem genshin have, aka massive powercreep, even tho nothing beats HSR in that regard

dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 7:07 PM

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midnight tide HP inflation will go up, it's not a matter of if but more when

Of course.
But as long as 1.x teams can clear no one is going to complain.

Which is more than I can say for HSR. The meta 2.0 teams couldn't even clear Memory endgame by the end of 2.x.
Actual scam game. (Not really, but might as well be.)

wet crane Jan 1, 2026, 7:23 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3orPSfyICEM Great video about Tune Break

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Lynae Tune Break F2P Guide | Wuthering Waves Version 3.0

🎵 Music Used:
Blue Archive OST - Shooting Athletes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_TLq2H0OvI
Jet Set Radio OST - Sneakman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL_jZSRZ_Bo
Dirty Androids - Midnight Lady (Extended Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eC2vXHFdSQ
Dohna Dohna OST - Breakthru...

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dusty tiger Jan 1, 2026, 7:39 PM

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This isn't even her intended gameplay style.
"This isn't even my final form."

wet crane Jan 2, 2026, 1:19 PM

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we are getting glacio rover in 3.2 probably

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interesting

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the next element is confirmed to be glacio

midnight tide Jan 2, 2026, 1:41 PM

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I thought electro would fit better but hey that's Kuro

wet crane Jan 2, 2026, 1:45 PM

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The old leaks said fire

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but this means that the new girl is Glacio probably

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which is cool

frozen token Jan 3, 2026, 5:51 AM

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Thanks for the work. I was using rtxhdr until now it was ass. ate like a 1/3 of my fps and added stutters

frozen token Jan 3, 2026, 6:19 AM

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Man they really made this game more CPU-heavy over the last 2 years.

frozen token Jan 3, 2026, 8:52 AM

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Discord will get Jxr support one day COPIUM

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Wuthering_Waves_Screenshot_2026.01.03_-_00.50.12.88.jxr

glad mauve Jan 3, 2026, 8:56 AM

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you can take HDR pngs using reshade

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those embed fine into discord and other chromium based stuff

frozen token Jan 3, 2026, 9:38 AM

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I forgot I had HDR + WCG Image Viewer can conver to png

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faint monolith Jan 3, 2026, 1:25 PM

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【【鸣潮】去虚化隐藏UID - DX12可用】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cfivB4Ev3

【鸣潮】去虚化隐藏UID - DX12可用

glad mauve Jan 3, 2026, 2:07 PM

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glad mauve Jan 3, 2026, 2:08 PM

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faint monolith 【【鸣潮】去虚化隐藏UID - DX12可用】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cfivB4Ev3

What is this?

faint monolith Jan 3, 2026, 2:13 PM

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Tool for removing character transparency

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📎 Release.7z

vital moss Jan 3, 2026, 3:14 PM

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No

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Don't install this unless you want your account banned

lean moon Jan 3, 2026, 8:16 PM

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can you use ray reconstruction in wuwa?

dusty tiger Jan 3, 2026, 8:23 PM

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vital moss Don't install this unless you want your account banned

Do you know this for sure?

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Looks like it's only DX11 anyways.

midnight tide Jan 3, 2026, 9:39 PM

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lean moon can you use ray reconstruction in wuwa?

yes. You need to add the dll file from techpowerup and two lines in the .ini file

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and if you really want to optmize it, force preset E with Nvidia inspector

vital moss Jan 3, 2026, 10:19 PM

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dusty tiger Looks like it's only DX11 anyways.

No, works for dx12 too apparently

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It's sus all the way

dusty tiger Jan 3, 2026, 10:22 PM

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Weird. Cause there is only a dx11 .bat file.

vital moss Jan 3, 2026, 10:29 PM

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Yea

coral thorn Jan 4, 2026, 6:03 AM

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faint monolith

I'm not sure this is a good idea to use this software

coral thorn Jan 4, 2026, 6:04 AM

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midnight tide yes. You need to add the dll file from techpowerup and two lines in the .ini fil...

Can you please link files and describle which lines?

lean moon Jan 4, 2026, 6:14 AM

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midnight tide yes. You need to add the dll file from techpowerup and two lines in the .ini fil...

what are the lines that i add? (sorry about the late reply)

rustic oriole Jan 4, 2026, 9:45 AM

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Do i need to keep auto exp on in this game

rustic oriole Jan 4, 2026, 9:45 AM

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wet crane it does not fix the SSR+RT Reflection issues tho

do u play with ssr disabled?

frozen token Jan 4, 2026, 9:52 AM

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glad mauve Jan 4, 2026, 10:06 AM

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rustic oriole do u play with ssr disabled?

yes

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disabled screentracing because its utter trash

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You will lose out on some reflections with RT

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but it stops some major occlusions artefacts, even the smallest object like a falling leaf will leave massive occluded trails in reflections making the entire surface into a blocky mess

wet crane Jan 4, 2026, 11:31 AM

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rustic oriole Do i need to keep auto exp on in this game

yes tuning it off breaks the lighting

wet crane Jan 4, 2026, 11:32 AM

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rustic oriole do u play with ssr disabled?

no, but only some of the reflections are broken, most of them are RT only

rustic oriole Jan 4, 2026, 11:39 AM

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wet crane no, but only some of the reflections are broken, most of them are RT only

hm i see

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my games keeps crashing with RT sometimes.. and when it does I cant open the game

it crashes on launch

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I turn off rt and vola it works 😭

dusty tiger Jan 4, 2026, 5:49 PM

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Might need to update Nvidia driver.
That was a driver issue with WuWa for a while.

wet crane Jan 4, 2026, 6:51 PM

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or OC issue

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the game should be stable on newer(~6 months old or newer) drivers

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 8:23 AM

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lean moon what are the lines that i add? (sorry about the late reply)

Add these commands to Engine.ini under [/Script/Engine.RendererSettings]
r.NGX.DLSS.BuiltInDenoiserOverride=0
r.NGX.DLSS.DenoiserMode=1

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 8:25 AM

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coral thorn Can you please link files and describle which lines?

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-3-ray-reconstruction-dll/

TechPowerUp

NVIDIA DLSS 3.5 Ray Reconstruction DLL 310.4.0 Download

This download provides various versions of NVIDIA's DLSS 3 Frame Generation DLL for download.
In this one file, which is bundled with all games tha

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this setting is kinda demanding just a heads up

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enable it if you have ressources to spare

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then force preset E through nvidia inspector

coral thorn Jan 5, 2026, 9:06 AM

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I'm ok playing at 60 fps xd

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 9:45 AM

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idk I don't get a framerate hit, unless I just put the dll in the wrong place.

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if anything my framerate improves, going from 39fps to 49fps in lahai-roi

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still CPU bottlenecked though

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either that or RAM

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 9:50 AM

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dapper flare if anything my framerate improves, going from 39fps to 49fps in lahai-roi

how ?

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it tanks about 15% of my fps

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 9:51 AM

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probably depends on having an actually sensible system config

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 9:51 AM

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mabye now that you have more burden on the gpu, you have less bottleneck therefore more perfs ?

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 9:51 AM

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that doesn't get cpu bottlenecked

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 9:51 AM

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im getting blottlenecked like crazy tbh

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that"s why I can only use Dlss Q

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otheriwse balanced or performances dont improve my frames

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 9:52 AM

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this game's just demanding as fuck at 4k + max settings + ini

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 9:52 AM

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yes, but it is largely unoptimized

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 9:53 AM

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idk i could turn off RT and get back up to like 80fps, of which then my CPU becomes the full time bottleneck

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 9:53 AM

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in Rinascita I used to get shitty performance with RT especially in the main city

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now I get like 20 more fps

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 9:54 AM

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at least its not lumen and it's half assed visuals and performance

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RT in this game looks honestly good compared to everything running on UE5 using lumen lmfao

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 9:55 AM

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I've seen better games with lumen honestly

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 9:55 AM

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at least the accumulation doesn't take seven business days to clear off your screen in wuwa OMEGALUL

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genuinely some of the most distracting shit in E33 having a light on the left of your screen cast a ghost trail because you panned the camera to the right

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and its comparably not that bad in E33

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 9:59 AM

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dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 10:03 AM

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midnight tide how ?

okay nevermind reflection heavy areas chews performance.

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i get out of the water and then the framerate doubles

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though it could also be something fucky with the game. main quest had a similar area which chewed performance down to single digit, and GPU was only drawing around 90W

lean moon Jan 5, 2026, 10:16 AM

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midnight tide Add these commands to Engine.ini under [/Script/Engine.RendererSettings] r.NGX.D...

thank you:)

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 12:09 PM

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dapper flare though it could also be something fucky with the game. main quest had a similar ...

which area/zone in particular ?

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I dont recall having such massive fps drop in any area

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except the main city of Lahai roi which is absurdly bad optimized

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 1:01 PM

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dapper flare probably depends on having an actually sensible system config

RR is not “free”, not even on a 5090

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 1:02 PM

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midnight tide except the main city of Lahai roi which is absurdly bad optimized

It’s CPU limited yea

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you need a 9800x3D if you want higher fps in Lahai Roi :/

midnight tide Jan 5, 2026, 1:14 PM

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wet crane you need a 9800x3D if you want higher fps in Lahai Roi :/

I mean my 7800x3d is just a tad bit behind the 9800x3d and I have 65 fps with a freaking 5090

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If I use the secret RT tweak, I drop down to 45 fps

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rire

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 1:16 PM

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midnight tide I mean my 7800x3d is just a tad bit behind the 9800x3d and I have 65 fps with a ...

I get ~90 fps with a 9800x3d + 4080

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the GPU is running at around 80-85%

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I just locked the game to 90

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 4:21 PM

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dapper flare idk I don't get a framerate hit, unless I just put the dll in the wrong place.

If you put dll in the right place you's get teh frame rate hit lol

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 4:22 PM

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dapper flare if anything my framerate improves, going from 39fps to 49fps in lahai-roi

Yea thats also impossible

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 4:22 PM

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dapper flare at least its not lumen and it's half assed visuals *and* performance

LMAO

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Another one

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We've been over this many times before

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This game uses lumen stright up

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Backported to ue4

grave tiger Jan 5, 2026, 4:58 PM

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there's literally lumen settings in the engine.ini

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 6:04 PM

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wet crane RR is not “free”, not even on a 5090

yeah I put it into folder with dlss, probably didn't put it in right place then

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 6:05 PM

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echo ridge This game uses lumen stright up

probably from not using full lighting suite then. because the shortcomings aren't as apparent ¯_(ツ)_/¯

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:10 PM

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dapper flare probably from not using full lighting suite then. because the shortcomings aren'...

it is

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LOL the shortcomings are super apparent

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with the insane noise

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the screen space artifacts

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:11 PM

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the noise is nowhere near as bad as any of the UE5 stuff I've played lmao

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it's still there, yeah

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ghosting isn't as bad either

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:12 PM

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just as bad if you go anywhere not remotely well lit

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are we playing the same game

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but anyways

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dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:12 PM

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go into the mansion in the first 3hr of e33 and it takes seven business days for the RT to pick back up

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:13 PM

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any non well lit place is going to have that issue

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insane blobbing and noising

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:13 PM

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compared to the "one" business day in wuwa

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:13 PM

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you can literally see the ghosting from the denoise during the cutscenes

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because of how bad they are

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the only thing they have going for it is that its performant enough

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:14 PM

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i never said it didn't exist lmao

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:14 PM

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which is why they're even using it in the first place

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:14 PM

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E33 also has a bunch of mismatched settings because (smol indie studio pls understand)

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:14 PM

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just that it's less apparent versus other titles that rely on it

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:14 PM

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U+ improves the lumen

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:15 PM

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^

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whereas you're kinda stuck with shitty

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backported lumen

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even on max

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and screen space tracing

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:15 PM

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Wuwa could have had PT but 4060 too slow

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AHHNOOOOOO

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:15 PM

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glad mauve U+ improves the lumen

how much does it fuck performance

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:15 PM

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glad mauve Wuwa could have had PT but 4060 too slow

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

Tenor

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:15 PM

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i hit like 70fps with DLSSP (iirc) transformer unmodded

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:16 PM

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U+ is configurable, maxxed will always lower your perf but the visual gains are pretty big

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:16 PM

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@glad mauve never forget

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:16 PM

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glad mauve U+ is configurable, maxxed will always lower your perf but the visual gains are ...

but for example, they solved the overworld stuttering

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:17 PM

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I'll give it a shot next time I boot the game up

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:17 PM

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They fixed various bugs

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like the neon beards

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foliage gets better GI and shadowing

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:17 PM

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does it also fix the 480p hair

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:17 PM

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yes

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Lazorr made new hair meshes

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:17 PM

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KanataPray

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:18 PM

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so the hair is smoother than not pixalated

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also fixed the pixalted DOF

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:18 PM

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oh hell yeah

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:18 PM

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advanced shit

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U+ is literally saving UE sloppas

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in the same way Reno/luma is saving HDR

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:19 PM

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glad mauve in the same way Reno/luma is saving HDR

doubt it

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its just a bunch of reshade presets

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:19 PM

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like I could be fine needing DLSS if the game didn't look kinda terrible on max settings

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:20 PM

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echo ridge its just a bunch of reshade presets

U+ is not a reshade preset...

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:21 PM

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dapper flare like I could be fine needing DLSS if the game didn't look kinda terrible on max ...

mmm

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:21 PM

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wet crane U+ is not a reshade preset...

you're right U+ is just some ini tweaks snake oil

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renodx is the reshade preset

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:22 PM

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One is snake oil ini

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the other is just a reshade

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:22 PM

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are you being sarcastic or serious? I can't really tell 😅

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:22 PM

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Match made in heaven

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:22 PM

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wet crane are you being sarcastic or serious? I can't really tell 😅

im dead serious

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:22 PM

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Me and spiwar

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:23 PM

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U+ is probably the only "ini mod" which is not a snake oil, Lazor knows his shit

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:23 PM

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cmon man the renodx = reshade preset should be a dead giveaway

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kekpepehands

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:23 PM

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I mean

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people like to shit on U+ 😄

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:24 PM

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lol i mean same with reno

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:25 PM

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well true

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:25 PM

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on another note

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we'll need the 6090

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when wuwa adds RTXDI

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and traces all lights

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:25 PM

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Why

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:25 PM

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its in the works after all

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:25 PM

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7090*

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:25 PM

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just use MFG 6x

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:26 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

Tenor

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raytracing-coming-to-mobile-via-unreal-fest-2025-v0-3tf4anpz8vwf1.png

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:26 PM

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Mega Geo

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in UE4

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BROOOOOO

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Wuwa will look like real life

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:26 PM

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we are not getting new video cards for 2 years

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:26 PM

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as if nvidia would bother releasing their next gen to consumers

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:27 PM

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We are not getting new video cards.....

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:27 PM

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you wont be able to get 50 series cards in 3-4 months either

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😄

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:27 PM

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Waitcels in shambles

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Brooo trust the plan, prices will go down

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:27 PM

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I need to get a 5080 FE asap

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:27 PM

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Only keep going up

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:27 PM

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but it's impossible

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especially for $1000

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:28 PM

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AMDlets in shambles

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inline rt free perf for nvidiots

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68c42c6b17726384811e4f56_inline-vs-pipeline-ray-tracing-score.png

dapper flare Jan 5, 2026, 7:28 PM

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they probably grit their teeth every time they shove GB202s on a consumer board LOL

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:29 PM

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echo ridge

Nvidiots just keep getting 'download free perf' patches

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Just installed SageAttention2++

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boosted perf by 50%

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for AI slop stuff

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AMDlets cant use it

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kekBomb

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:30 PM

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I really hope that this and the next year will finally force the game devs' hands to optimize their games

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kekpepehands

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:31 PM

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Me paypigging the whole industry so nothing changes

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gigachad

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Sorry techlets

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You will suffer the bad perf

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:31 PM

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at least bindless resources will help reduce cpu overhead

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but then again gpu is going to tank

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:32 PM

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I have a better question

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:32 PM

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with rtdi

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:32 PM

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why are we still using CPUs

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:32 PM

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it's better at calculating stuff

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:32 PM

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GPU compute is a trillion times faster

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CPUs are boomers

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:32 PM

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at certain stuff

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😄

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:32 PM

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glad mauve why are we still using CPUs

short but big hands

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vs long but small hands

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:33 PM

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wat

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frenzy

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:33 PM

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lol yea xDD

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nice one

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:33 PM

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fantastic analogy

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:33 PM

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short but big is gpu

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it cant reach far do a lot of things

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:33 PM

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Bro described Shaq

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:33 PM

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but its huge at what it does

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:33 PM

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and thinks I can get it

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Ok

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so just make something that is long with big hands

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yakub

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

Tenor

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:34 PM

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both CPUs and GPUs are boomer tech

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:34 PM

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AI ASICs

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lets go

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:34 PM

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quantum computing

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:35 PM

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I remember reading the paper on some new transistor like thingy that can do operators a trillion times faster than our current hot and slow sand

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:35 PM

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wet crane quantum computing

literally, oh my perf is bad in this spot

umm... just flip the qubit so its good

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yakub

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infinite potential

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Your game crashed??? nah ah

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flip the qubit so it never crashed

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:36 PM

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glad mauve I remember reading the paper on some new transistor like thingy that can do oper...

a transistor that can "do" operators? like those operators that work on assembly lines?

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:37 PM

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no like phone operator back in the 30s

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:37 PM

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nice

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:37 PM

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glad mauve flip the qubit so it never crashed

I have no idea if this is what qunatum compute is like

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:37 PM

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I always preferred those

glad mauve Jan 5, 2026, 7:37 PM

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I just imagine it is funny if its like this

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Just flip the state of the qubit so all problems go away

wet crane Jan 5, 2026, 7:38 PM

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glad mauve I have no idea if this is what qunatum compute is like

it's schrödinger's CPU

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in classic computing everything is either 0 or 1, in quantum computing it can be both 0 and 1 and more

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or well anything in between 0 and 1

echo ridge Jan 5, 2026, 7:58 PM

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it can be crashing and not crashing at the same time

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amazing

formal spoke Jan 6, 2026, 12:33 AM

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Are there any recorded bans or warnings for using Reshade + addons support (+RenoDx) in WuWa?

glad mauve Jan 6, 2026, 12:42 AM

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Maybe?

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Nothing from here though

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Considering there a fellas who run skin mods via 3dmigoto and those havent been banned

dusty tiger Jan 6, 2026, 12:50 AM

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There is strong evidence that some .pak mods can get you banned.
But which ones exactly. No one knows.

Little to no evidence of Reshade getting anyone banned.

frozen token Jan 6, 2026, 2:18 AM

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formal spoke Are there any recorded bans or warnings for using Reshade + addons support (+Ren...

I asked chatgpt to search reddit for an answer to this and it came up negative. It will most likely warn you and not boot if it decides its bad.

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 8:59 AM

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can wait to try out wuwa with the new dlss preset

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perfs are gonna tank even more than last time

wet crane Jan 6, 2026, 11:13 AM

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midnight tide perfs are gonna tank even more than last time

no it’s going to run fater! kekpepehands

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 11:14 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-gif-16978492239797714559

Tenor

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Preset L or M we ll see

lean moon Jan 6, 2026, 12:18 PM

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midnight tide https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-gif-16978492239797714559

preset L looks better

sour sorrel Jan 6, 2026, 12:18 PM

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Ppl are already saying that on non rtx 40xx and 50xx gpu’s performance tanks, as expected

lean moon Jan 6, 2026, 12:21 PM

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sour sorrel Ppl are already saying that on non rtx 40xx and 50xx gpu’s performance tanks, as...

even on my 5080 it takes like 10-20% off with preset L

sour sorrel Jan 6, 2026, 12:23 PM

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I won’t even bother on my 2070S

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KEKW

lean moon Jan 6, 2026, 12:24 PM

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sour sorrel I won’t even bother on my 2070S

yeah stick to preset k

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or enjoy cinematic frames

sour sorrel Jan 6, 2026, 12:25 PM

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lean moon yeah stick to preset k

Even this one is too much, preset E for me

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KEKW

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transformer tanks fps on 20xx as well

lean moon Jan 6, 2026, 12:26 PM

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sour sorrel transformer tanks fps on 20xx as well

usually that with rr but yeah still sucks

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 12:41 PM

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lean moon preset L looks better

yes but it's more taxing

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so it will depends on how hard the performance hit is

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 12:42 PM

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sour sorrel I won’t even bother on my 2070S

performance hit is around 40 to 50% (!) on gpus older than 4xxx

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according to testers

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so yeah stick to K

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 12:43 PM

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sour sorrel Even this one is too much, preset E for me

you should use preset F for cnn it's the better one

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E for RR

sour sorrel Jan 6, 2026, 1:58 PM

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midnight tide you should use preset F for cnn it's the better one

cnn?

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 1:59 PM

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sour sorrel cnn?

it's the previous model of dlss, prior to the transformer model (preset K)

sour sorrel Jan 6, 2026, 2:01 PM

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midnight tide it's the previous model of dlss, prior to the transformer model (preset K)

I don't get it, you just mean that F is better than E, right?

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 2:06 PM

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sour sorrel I don't get it, you just mean that F is better than E, right?

Maybe I confused you a bit, but I meant to say preset F, excluding J to L, is the better one for dlss currently

sour sorrel Jan 6, 2026, 2:08 PM

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midnight tide Maybe I confused you a bit, but I meant to say preset F, excluding J to L, is th...

Okay, I’ll use F then, thanks

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ElizaThumbsUp

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 2:08 PM

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TeriCool

frozen token Jan 6, 2026, 2:32 PM

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So wait the new presets look a little better but tank performance?

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Wait frame gen does feel better

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 2:42 PM

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Is there any fix to flickering with FG?

frozen token Jan 6, 2026, 2:44 PM

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are you using the dlss fix because I dont have that issue

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 2:46 PM

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frozen token are you using the dlss fix because I dont have that issue

No, I use reshade+renodx+dlssfg+nvidiaRR

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Maybe I need to update something?

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 3:03 PM

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Can it be because I also updated StreamlineCore dlls?

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glad mauve Jan 6, 2026, 3:28 PM

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Transformer FG will flicker with reno

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You either need to downggrade to CNN FG or use DLSS fix

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Or for the UE game to support HDR path upgrade

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(which Wuwa doesn't atm for Reno)

echo ridge Jan 6, 2026, 4:16 PM

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coral thorn Is there any fix to flickering with FG?

yes, stop using FG

wet crane Jan 6, 2026, 4:19 PM

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midnight tide you should use preset F for cnn it's the better one

that’s for DLAA

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And ultra performance

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preset E is usually better

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 4:44 PM

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echo ridge yes, stop using FG

But it's good now with dlss 4.5

echo ridge Jan 6, 2026, 4:48 PM

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lol

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 4:49 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-mercy-vodka-gif-11700818

Tenor

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Kurooooooooooooooooo

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 4:56 PM

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wet crane that’s for DLAA

It's on a game to game basis depending on the implementation

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according to my testing, preset F is a better all rounder

wet crane Jan 6, 2026, 4:57 PM

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and according to my testing, preset E is the better all rounder 🤣

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but yes its game dependent

wet crane Jan 6, 2026, 4:59 PM

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coral thorn But it's good now with dlss 4.5

coping hard I see

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4.5 looks horrendous from what I have seen so far

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unfortunately

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but it fixes most of the ghosting issues haha

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 5:01 PM

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wet crane but it fixes most of the ghosting issues haha

Well, I mean x2 is playable

wet crane Jan 6, 2026, 5:03 PM

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coral thorn Well, I mean x2 is playable

https://tenor.com/view/meghans-birthday-bday-savingthrow-savingthrowshow-rpg-gif-12961470

Tenor

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 5:18 PM

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wet crane 4.5 looks horrendous from what I have seen so far

wdym ?

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I havent tested anything myself yet

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trying wuwa with preset L currently

grave tiger Jan 6, 2026, 5:20 PM

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LOL i get 70 less fps with dlss 4.5, from 220 to 150

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ai slop strikes again

wet crane Jan 6, 2026, 5:21 PM

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midnight tide wdym ?

oversharpening + shimmering

midnight tide Jan 6, 2026, 5:22 PM

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wet crane oversharpening + shimmering

M and L bring shimmering ?

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I do like the oversharpened look

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differnent taste for different folks ig

glad mauve Jan 6, 2026, 5:35 PM

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coral thorn But it's good now with dlss 4.5

FG has not been updated to Transformer 2 model yet

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They changed the name to 310.5

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 5:35 PM

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wet crane https://tenor.com/view/meghans-birthday-bday-savingthrow-savingthrowshow-rpg-gif...

idk what's your problem with dlss, I have pretty stable picture

glad mauve Jan 6, 2026, 5:35 PM

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but the model and size is the same

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Dont listen to Spiwar

coral thorn Jan 6, 2026, 5:35 PM

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glad mauve They changed the name to 310.5

Damn it

glad mauve Jan 6, 2026, 5:35 PM

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Use FG

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and DLSS fix

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