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wet crane
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yea bloom affects it too

foggy mica
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Should i turn on RT ?

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I was wandering way it was solid 80 FPS

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XD

sturdy cloak
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Yes, the fact that it gets so well defined is what sticks out to me. Although I guess it is brightness related. After all, if only one thing is supposed to clip in HDR, I do guess it should be the sun !

wet crane
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I'm getting close to actual 1:1

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just for fun

echo ridge
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cause blowout

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smh

wet crane
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I don't even use blow out

echo ridge
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i mean the blowout from strength 100

wet crane
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well yea

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the problem is not the color

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or well not only the color

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but the brightness

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autohdr sun

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it not great, but it somewhat resembles a sun

echo ridge
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embrace the bloom

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embrace the colors

wet crane
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#1411110125732892807 message here you can see that the "sunflare" is coming from behind the sun's disk

wet crane
echo ridge
echo ridge
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my hue shift is at 100

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damn

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the bloom makes this area so fucking good

wet crane
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bloom can look great, but when it looks bad then it looks really bad 😩

echo ridge
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whats your vanilla+ right now

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lets have some

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friendly competition

wet crane
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you mean war

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😄

foggy mica
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HDR WAR

echo ridge
wet crane
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#1411110125732892807 message

echo ridge
wet crane
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ok 1:1 is finished, the true purist preset lol

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everything under 100 nits matches SDR

echo ridge
wet crane
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whats up with the lighting on that distant rock

echo ridge
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wdym

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]screen space fog?

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or you mean the lighting changes

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dynamic time of day/clouds so I can't match the light completely

wet crane
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yea shadows change fast

echo ridge
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your new preset kinda looks closer to my current preset in terms of saturated stuff

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sacrificing blowout restore

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means u dont see that weird artifacting

wet crane
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yea I wanted to fix that

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I switched to 2.2 too

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and I cheated with 0.95 grading strength

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0.8 would be ideal

echo ridge
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told u hop on the gamma correction gang

wet crane
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I'm not a huge fan of the blue shadows even if it's correct but I will keep using 2.2 because it looks better everywhere else

foggy mica
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Wait 2.4 game gamma ?

wet crane
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2.2

foggy mica
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Ah

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Ok

echo ridge
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radioactive trees

wet crane
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white clip 1?

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why?

echo ridge
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oh wait

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yeah i got that wrong

drowsy wolf
echo ridge
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forgot to change that

echo ridge
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im not the one doing the patching

drowsy wolf
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@halcyon meteor i mean mb lmao

wet crane
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for a second

echo ridge
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i like my high bloom

wet crane
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skin turns radioactive

echo ridge
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100 is unusable yeah

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even i only stick with 75

drowsy wolf
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is the only one i can make her ult goes black it should be the one responsible for it

foggy mica
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Oh i was sure you said no cs but ps :3 so that’s way

drowsy wolf
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mabye raven can verify it later

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cause idk what part of her ult u guys want

wet crane
drowsy wolf
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it is like the final hit of augusta or her doing the slash slash slash

echo ridge
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classic ictcp

foggy mica
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Ok :3

wet crane
echo ridge
wet crane
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but oklab looks 1:1 identical

echo ridge
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classic ictcp artifact

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dtucs even worse

wet crane
drowsy wolf
wet crane
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one of them is oklab the other is ictcp

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yea ok it's not identical my bad

echo ridge
drowsy wolf
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raven said he not sure which one

wet crane
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@echo ridge #1411110125732892807 message can you tell which is which ?

echo ridge
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gonna guess

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left is ictcp

foggy mica
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@drowsy wolf Kotorin said they will check it once they get home

wet crane
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@echo ridge ok here

echo ridge
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left ictcp

wet crane
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it's not that easy to tell imo

sturdy cloak
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@wet crane This stays between us, but it is possible that I just managed to full clear TOA's 3rd floor with my new, barely built Galbrena team thanks to your preset. Just sayin. You make me a better gamer😂 .

echo ridge
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its the same artifact you get around cantarella's caastle

wet crane
sturdy cloak
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lmao🤣

echo ridge
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also

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believe it or not

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i barely watched harry potter or read the books

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so i dont know what that meant

wet crane
echo ridge
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you just need to look at the bloom around the actual object

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one sec

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ictcp exaggerates the bloom

wet crane
sturdy cloak
echo ridge
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well

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i did say "barely"

wet crane
sturdy cloak
sturdy cloak
echo ridge
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I only vaguely know the houses cuz my friend made me play the sortingg hat game

sturdy cloak
echo ridge
sturdy cloak
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This is stupid. I'm definitely gonna have to look this up now 😂

wet crane
sturdy cloak
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That checks out patrickNotes

wet crane
sturdy cloak
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the second one is particularly impressive. The first is like 1 to 0.999. Which kicks ass. But the second one is literally 1 to 1.

echo ridge
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looks like you perfected vanilla+

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grats

wet crane
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turning into a preset is going to be tricky, I'm using "unorthodox settings"

sturdy cloak
wet crane
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well I'm using 375 paperwhite gigachad

sturdy cloak
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What does "unorthodox" mean here 😂

wet crane
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I need to find another way to match SDR

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it works but it's not nice

sturdy cloak
wet crane
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it works everywhere in the game

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but renodx auto adjusts paperwhite

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the "correct" paperwhite value is based on your actual paperwhite

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375 = 203 in this case

sturdy cloak
wet crane
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I'm pretty sure that I can achieve the same result using the exposure and shadow/highlight sliders

wet crane
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375 does not mean 375 nits in this case but 203

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paperwhite = game brightness

sturdy cloak
wet crane
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no

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I'm just using reno the "wrong way" haha

sturdy cloak
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Then 375 is always equal to 203 ?

wet crane
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no 203 is usually 203 except if you mess with the exposure slider as well

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exposure and the game brightness settings are very similar

echo ridge
wet crane
echo ridge
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just use a ratio

wet crane
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that was my plan yea

echo ridge
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80 game brightness * 1.5 exposure is pretty much 120 game brightness in my experience

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unless there's something wrong

wet crane
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yea the math is not perfect

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far from it

wet crane
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the current vanilla + preset is the best I can do with fixed paperwhite

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it's not 1:1 but "close enough"

echo ridge
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calculation is somewhat dynamic

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if someone had a 2000/4000 nit display slapping on your preset

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also will have a pretty diff result

wet crane
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yea ofc

echo ridge
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I had to lower my highlights from 75 to 70 also

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once I move from 600/800 nits to 1000 nits peak

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there is probably something similar with game brightness

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as the tone wont completely match

wet crane
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the presets are just starting points

echo ridge
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but our preset already pretty close to base game

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we're just tuning for tiny nitpicky differences

wet crane
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yea

light agate
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ok, thanks !❤

clear holly
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Damn I need to try the new presets
I remember messing with settings during quests with Lupa, one scene she looked pink and the next she was pale like a vampire 🥶

wet crane
dusty tiger
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@wet crane Still cooking that preset?

wet crane
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it's as close to SDR as it gets

dusty tiger
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It's the preset you posted above then?

wet crane
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no but that's the best I can do with normal game brightness

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the current vanilla+ preset is "good enough"

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the current preset I use only works if you normally use 203 game brightness

dusty tiger
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Think your last preset also used 203 game brightness because that is what mine is at atm

wet crane
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203 is just the baseline

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203 is fixed with the 1:1 preset, but I will try to make it "adjustable"

dusty tiger
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So the 1:1 is or isn't the Vanilla+?

wet crane
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it's different

dusty tiger
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Ah. What is the different objectives between the two?

wet crane
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it's similar, but the midtones are brighter with the vanilla+ preset

dusty tiger
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Ok. Looked a bit washed but I figured that was just how it was supposed to be.

wet crane
wet crane
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1:1 matches SDR

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if you think vanilla+ is washed out then you are not going to like 1:1 either 😄

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because it's even more "washed out"

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#1411110125732892807 message this is the 1:1 preset compared to SDR

dusty tiger
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🤔 Hmmm... got ya.

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Am having a hard time finding settings I like since the grading change

wet crane
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grading change?

dusty tiger
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They changed the colors a bit with 2.7 update.

wet crane
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ahh

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just lower saturation by ~3

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or you can use gamma correction off with flare

dusty tiger
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My old preset was using correction 2.4 but it is too dark now

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Now that I look at it I probably messed something up at some point. Don't think it was supposed to be on 2.4

wet crane
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ofc not

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you can try this:

dusty tiger
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Similar to where I am at atm. lol Minus the Correction OFF setting

wet crane
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correction off desaturates shadows

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maybe you like that look more

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I'm not a huge fan of the correct looking blue shadows

dusty tiger
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That's fair. I'm not too sure about where I'm at on shadows atm. lol

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This is where I am at atm.

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I do not make any claims on accuracy. Just tweaking to subjective taste. ^^;

wet crane
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it's going to crush shadows

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60 contrast with 2.2 gamma correction is going to be dark

dusty tiger
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Yeah, it looks goot at day time. Bu tI am finding the shadows to be pretty intense when there are a lot of them.

wet crane
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my preset is not crushing shadows, but just barely

dusty tiger
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The contrast counters the image having like a white haze.

wet crane
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or 70/52

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if you dislike the SDR like haze, and you want to improve the contrast without destroying shadow details then you have to lower grading strength unfortunately

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thats the only "real" solution

dusty tiger
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That's rough

wet crane
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the "HDR Look" preset is a good starting point for that

dusty tiger
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I'll play with this for a bit and see how different things look.

wet crane
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this is basically the vanilla + preset I think

dusty tiger
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With just a couple tweaks, yeah

wet crane
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yea higher bloom

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and highlights

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skin is going to glow, but there is not much you can do about that unfortunately

dusty tiger
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I hate that sdr haze so much. I don't know why. lol

wet crane
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it's just the brain

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higher contrast is more "pleasing" to look at

dusty tiger
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Monkey brain

wet crane
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yea haha

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"it pops more I like"

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it's sooo annoying that the weekly boss reward is limited to 3/week

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it takes 3 weeks to farm enough materials to max out a new character

dusty tiger
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This floor is pretty intense with highlights @ 69. lol

wet crane
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btw it turned out that changli/lupa/galbrena is the better team, but you loose a healer/shielder

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if you swap out brant

dusty tiger
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That will be good for WhiWa

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Is there a drawback of using Flare slider?

crystal thistle
verbal schooner
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@halcyon meteor mind taking a look at these shaders when you have a chance? i think it could be related to the scene transitions not turning fully black/white. 0xF2478C7D.ps_6_0 is already patched but switching it to original fixes the scene transition.

dusty tiger
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??

dusty tiger
drowsy wolf
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wet crane
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nah

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AI generated

clear holly
midnight tide
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bro has a thing for Phoebe ig

wet crane
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bro has many issues

sand cloud
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@clear holly you need Jesus

alpine kestrel
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how old is she

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is she like a 1000 year old dragon princess or something

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looks like this artist made her look more underage intentionally

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dusty tiger
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AI is never wrong. XP

fallen roost
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schrodinger's pedophilia

dusty tiger
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Oof

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Anime in a nutshell though really

fallen roost
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By being indescript you can avoid upsetting both camps:

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dusty tiger
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Thanks, I hate it.

wet crane
echo ridge
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Dialed and rettuned a bit

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Actually very simple now

alpine orchid
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not again PES_Why

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he's S3 now so I guess I should build him

wet crane
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mine is S3 too kekpepehands

midnight tide
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You guys are low spenders ?

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Or F2P ?

wet crane
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we are all whales wdym

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I'm a low spender 😄

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which mean Lunite Subscription + Battle Pass (Sometimes)

alpine orchid
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I buy the sub and battle pass and I'll grab the bundle deals each month if I need them to get somebody

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I made a rule for myself not to pull for dupes

dusty tiger
wet crane
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yup I'm not pulling dupes either

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but I made another rule for myself

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I don't pull characters without their weapon

alpine orchid
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I try to get the weapon when I can

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Sometimes you hit double hard pity and need to hold back just a bit kekpepehands

clear holly
clear holly
clear holly
clear holly
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Lol, it's a scam

midnight tide
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Before we had no character sold with their premium support, and the F2P weapons were decently usable compared to the signature ones

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Now you kinda have to pull for the weapons otherwise the character will underperform like crazy (not less than 45% for augusta)

wet crane
dusty tiger
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It is hard to really say.
There are some decent points there.
But then you also had dog ass characters like Changli who everyone rolled and then 1/2 of the people quit the game when they realized she did no damage.

And it took a year before they finally came out with units that she worked with. Lupa is the only one that makes full use of her outro for example.

It isn't like Gal is bad in mono fusion. So most characters have pretty decent flexibility when it comes to team building.

If we get to the point where the 1.0 teams can't clear Tower I think that will be the canary indicator that things could be going south.

midnight tide
wet crane
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😅

midnight tide
midnight tide
wet crane
dusty tiger
dusty tiger
wet crane
dusty tiger
midnight tide
dusty tiger
wet crane
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this 3 piece set bonuses are nice

dusty tiger
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Nightmare nests are a pro and con. But I think it is an overall win.

wet crane
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I don’t love the nightmare farm thing

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echo boxes are kinda useless now

dusty tiger
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It's a short term loss for a long term gain imo.
If you want to sit and farm stuff for a new char you can't. But it is easier to just run them quick daily and build up a stack of them and reroll when new sets come out.

So I think you end up ahead in the end.

dusty tiger
wet crane
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reroll?

dusty tiger
wet crane
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meh yea but echo limit…

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3000 is not enough

midnight tide
dusty tiger
wet crane
dusty tiger
wet crane
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I’m not destroying useful echos

dusty tiger
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No shot you have 3000 useful echos

wet crane
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around 2800

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I didn’t have to farm normal echoes for galbrena I just used my echo reserve xD

dusty tiger
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You have to be sitting on elemental damage echos that make no sense for their sets at least.

Or DEF 1 costs.

wet crane
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nope

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I mereged all of those

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all ele damage matches the echo element

dusty tiger
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Were you just running tacet fields all the time?

wet crane
dusty tiger
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Yeah, ok. That makes a little more sense then.
I never farmed anything cause it was just a time sink.

wet crane
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but yea I just do the weekly event thing double reward now

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and forge

dusty tiger
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That's all I ever did unless I was super desperate. lol
Think I only open world farmed like 6 times.

wet crane
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I play since day 0

dusty tiger
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Same.

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I skipped Jiyan at launch to save for Yinlin....

wet crane
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I lost Jiyan 50/50

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but I got Yinlin

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and her weapon

dusty tiger
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Yay! Be both have the worst character in the game! XP

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Yinlin needs divine intervention at this point.

wet crane
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She is not too bad next to Augusta either

dusty tiger
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I won't begrudge liking her. I want her to be good. ^^

But even the sweats couldn't clear the last Tower with her. Xiangli with Changli are actually out DPSing Yinlin team atm. She just does no damage. She is the only limited character atm that has that issue.

wet crane
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the only problem with Yinlin is her long rotation time

dusty tiger
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It's not too terrible if you spam heavy attack. But her marking system is ass cheeks. Especially in WhiWa

wet crane
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I mean she does more damage than Roccia

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she is comparable to Zhezhi when it comes to DPR

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but her rotation is slow unfortunately unlike Zhezhi's

wet crane
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maybe an echo set

dusty tiger
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I think she just needs a rework. But the odds of that happening are probably like 5%.

There is only so much they can do with echo sets without it taking over all electro characters. Unless they specify rectifier users or something.

wet crane
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yea

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I don't think that a rework is happening

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I'm pretty sure that they are going to rework Calcharo though, for New Federation

dusty tiger
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Most of her damage comes from her marks which go away upon death. So once you kill a mob her dps falls into oblivion.

And her ult is pretty weak.
One of the biggest issues is that her sitting heavy attack can be interrupted AND it takes all your gauge away.

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Her skill (2nd hit) also can't be swap cancelled or dodge cancelled without losing the gauge it generates. So you just have to get hit.

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Sorry to be a bitch fest. Thought a lot about this over time. XD

wet crane
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yea interruption is a big issue especially vs the newer faster bosses

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midnight tide
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Cant wait to see some chisa gameplay tbh

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The character is hyped enough so they can show off more of their talents with her

wet crane
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yea Iuno and Augusta are the best animation wise atm

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The new Samurai guy is not too bad either tbh

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Galbrena is also nice, but she is nowhere near as flashy as Iuno for example

midnight tide
wet crane
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unpopular opinion, but I really don't like her overclocked white form haha

midnight tide
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Hot take probably I really like it, even tho her base form is better

wet crane
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but yea her resonance liberation is underwhelming, I don't really mind it because it's fast at least

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I really love her in the Galbrena/Changli/Lupa quickswap/semi-quickswap team

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I'm still missing one crit damage substat but she is a beast

midnight tide
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I really want changli and lupa to build a mono fusion team around her but yeah F2P pleb life kekpepehands

wet crane
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~2370 Attack
~122% ER%
67,5% CR%
285% CD%

At the moment

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I want that extra ~15% CD to reach 300%, but it's not really necessary tbh

midnight tide
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I want more crit rate than crit damage in general

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Like 75 275 would be a better ratio for me

wet crane
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it's near impossible to get 75% CR with galbrena

midnight tide
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Oof

wet crane
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I mean if you use her weapon

midnight tide
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Yeah her weapond is CD

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You need the CR elsewhere

wet crane
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5x10.4% + 22% is the max

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aka 74

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if all your CR% rolls are perfect

midnight tide
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So 70% would be plenty for me but i wont expect that much

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Your 67% are pretty nice

wet crane
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I'm happy with my 67.5 lol

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yea

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her attacks are fast

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aka 67 is fine

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she is not a nuke character like carlotta

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still that extra 15-21% CD% would be nice

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but I have to roll CR%, CD%, ATK%, ER%

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the current echo that I need to replace has high CR%, ATK%, ER% and flat ATK

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it's a one cost echo, so I will test my luck lol

midnight tide
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a 15% CD roll is doable honestly

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but your CR roll needs to be in check too

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unless you dont mind less than 65%

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ER% is that important on her ?

wet crane
wet crane
midnight tide
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unless you have a copious amount of modifiers, I would have left here with these stats 🤣 not worth the farm

wet crane
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😄

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her base CR is 5% btw, so 79% is the max

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~69-72% is doable if you are lucky

midnight tide
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best designed dps is a bold statement

wet crane
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I semi-agree with them tbh

midnight tide
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carlotta has a very good design

wet crane
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in a pure gameplay/dpr sense

dusty tiger
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ER% 110 - 125 is most important for rotation smoothness.
Then worry about CR% rolls. After that just get as much CD and ATK% as you can.

wet crane
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it's not about the animation design but versatility

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Carlotta is a 1v1 nuke character

midnight tide
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team versatility or effective versatility ?

wet crane
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if the liberation is not a critical hit she looses 50% of her damage

dusty tiger
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both really. She has a few teams she can work with. To varying effectiveness.

wet crane
midnight tide
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hmmm isnt augusta more versatile ?

wet crane
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not really

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she is just good 😄

dusty tiger
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Agusta just works with Iuno and Mortefi

midnight tide
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you have a sk team with her

dusty tiger
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Gal can work with Cantarella + Phro, Mono Fusion, and her best will be with Q next banner.

midnight tide
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I see

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but Augusta is good against bosses and in whiwa

dusty tiger
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Augusta is super good. I won't say that she isn't. lol

midnight tide
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i meant in term of versatility

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she has more use cases maybe ?

dusty tiger
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They are both good in both endgame really

midnight tide
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alright

dusty tiger
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Agusta I think stilll has the issue with her ult in WhiWa though

wet crane
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yes, but that can be fixed

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her personal damage is insane

midnight tide
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especially with Iuno

dusty tiger
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I don't even have Iuno on dps build and she cooks mobs in WhiWa on her own. lol

midnight tide
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actually yes

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🤣

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mine is built like a sub dps and she does more damage than my carlotta

wet crane
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Galbrena's personal damage is very high too, but she kinda needs lupa/cantarella

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or the new samurai guy

midnight tide
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is that why they're planing to rerun cantarella again next patch

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💀

wet crane
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I don't think so, the samurai guy is just better

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can't heal though

dusty tiger
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I think Canta might work with Chisa.

midnight tide
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rumours say that chisa works with carte and ciaconna

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maybe with Phrolova too

dusty tiger
midnight tide
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that would be crazy

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since she's buffing crit like SK

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we havent got any universal support since her actually

dusty tiger
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It is time for another support or two. Am tired of playing SK in 1/2 of the teams. ^^;

midnight tide
#

agreed

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and that makes her less prone to powercreep

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which is always a plus if you like the character

wet crane
#

the Galbrena/Samurai guy/SK team is doing Augusta/Iuno/SK team damage

dusty tiger
#

Fucking SK... lol

wet crane
dusty tiger
wet crane
#

not Zani like 2 modes

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the leaks say that she has a "glowing eye" mode that is similar to cantarella's long press X mode

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but we will see yea

dusty tiger
#

What I read made it sound like Peeb 2 modes. And I have heard that she works with Cartwheel team and Havoc Bane. So idk. XD

wet crane
#

we still don't really know her role either

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beta starts next weekend

wet crane
#

I wouldn't mind a support character

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SK is getting boring lol

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btw

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no quickswap stats tho

midnight tide
#

Providing teamwide heals and buff CR CD

wet crane
#

SK 2.0

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😄

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that's a must pull then

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but we will see

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but people say that the leakers are trolling us

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but the last premium character of 2.x needs to be "special"

midnight tide
#

She might be the most hyped character of 2.x close to Iuno

wet crane
#

the japanese player base is not that huge tho

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I mean nowhere near as big as the chinese or south korean

dusty tiger
wet crane
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A new universal buffer/support? I really want it to be true

midnight tide
midnight tide
dusty tiger
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Think people use likes on socials for that. Still not great though.

wet crane
#

Quiyuan is super hyped on social media

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but I don't think that he is actually that popular

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I don't think that we can actually measure hype

dusty tiger
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That is fair.
I sometimes question how much some of the people on socials even play the games they talk so much about.

A lot of Quiyuan's super fans probably only discuss him because he is a new male character in WuWa. And will probably only ever look up AI porn of him on Rule34 and never actually play the guy in game.

sturdy cloak
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But perhaps I'm the only one🥲

wet crane
#

nah, his kit is interesting

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and his animations are nice

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but he is a semi exclusive support for Galbrena

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but they say that he is going to be a very good solo character

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Or well he can be used with Phrolova too

sturdy cloak
#

Well, I can be bit over the top sometimes... Meaning you can be certain I will find a way to make him work as a main dps ! I just don't care at this point 🤩 !

dusty tiger
#

He is the first Echo Skill DMG buffer.
I think Phro, Canta and Gal will all benefit from him.

wet crane
#

her main attack type is basic damage (85%+)

sturdy cloak
#

I think this is probably going to require is sig (crazy self buff from what I saw), but I am quite set on building a team with Ciaconna, Iuno and Qiuyan as main dps.

wet crane
#

Phrolova deals ~50% and Galbrena 85% echo damage

wet crane
#

as long as you can do 2-3 forte/rotation with him

sturdy cloak
#

I am hopefull !

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Or coping😂

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I don't know yet !

wet crane
#

if Chisa is an universal support then I'm skipping him

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we will see 😄

sturdy cloak
wet crane
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the Phrolova/Qiuyuan/Galbrena team is going to be very very OP though

sturdy cloak
# wet crane the Phrolova/Qiuyuan/Galbrena team is going to be very very OP though

There might actually be uncertainty there. From what we saw in is preview story kit, Qiuyan buff would be buffing the "active" resonator echo damage. Since (from my understanding) most of Phrolova echo damage happens while she is off field, it might technically not apply. That being said, this detail is of course open to interpretation, and very well could be changed on release (since appart from story, is kit hasn't been officially available in the gallery).

wet crane
#

Phrolova buffs Qiuyuan and Qiuyuan buffs Galbrena

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the team damage contribution is: ~45% Galbrena / ~45% Phrolova / ~20% Qiuyuan

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Dual DPS

dusty tiger
#

He has buffs for both the active character and the on field character.
You can see his kit in the 2.7 story mode.

wet crane
dusty tiger
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His outro is a pretty powerful buff.
And, not him specific, but he will be the only character who will be able to get Gal to full 60% DMG buff of her Afterflame.

wet crane
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they both have 4 echo skills

dusty tiger
# wet crane and cantarella

Yes. But Canta getting you to full Afterflame is worse than just losing the 24% DMG with Mono Fusion. OR the 50% buff + Full stack with 60% buff from Q

wet crane
#

yes

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Qiuyuan is Galbrena's BiS ofc

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just like Iuno is Augusta's

dusty tiger
#

Very similar.
But he trades the heals for more buffs (only in co-op mode that doesn't exist atm though)

wet crane
#

yea co-op mode is a joke sadly

dusty tiger
#

Hot take:
New 3rd endgame mode should be a co-op boss rush mode.

wet crane
#

nonono

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I don't want co-op endgame modes

dusty tiger
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lol. Why not? They weren't even hard.

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This one from his sig weapon:

wet crane
#

his outro is limited to the incoming resonator

dusty tiger
wet crane
#

I don't want to use SK

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Phrolova -> Q -> Gal

dusty tiger
#

You don't have to. I am just assuming that will be her best comp.

dusty tiger
wet crane
#

Phrolova/Q/Gal is the best team according to the calculations

dusty tiger
wet crane
#

SK is not the greatest healer anyway gigachad

dusty tiger
#

She can heal a unit from 50% pretty reliably I find. Plus Gal doesn't have the best crit rate. Can use the buff.

wet crane
#

yea that's true, Galbrena needs all the CR she can get

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67-69% is not to bad tho

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she is not a single attack nuke character

dusty tiger
#

Yes. Sonata set give her 20% to get her into the 80s. SK just pushes her into the reliable crit zone from there.

sturdy cloak
wet crane
wet crane
dusty tiger
#

Can also do Iuno > Q > Gal (not as high DPS but still viable)

wet crane
#

SK would buff it to 100

wet crane
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I will wait unti the end of 2.7 to decide

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I need to see the Chisa leaks 😄

dusty tiger
#

Would be nice to know. NGL
Personally I have every character so it's not like I'm NOT gonna get her anyways. But still...

wet crane
#

with weapons?

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You have to win all 50/50s to get all the characters and weapons if you are a low spender

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😄

dusty tiger
#

I don't have a few of the early character's weapons.
Jinhsi, Jiyan, Xiangli Yao and Zhezhi I think are all the weapons I am missing.

wet crane
#

but you buy the monthly astrite packs too right?

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not just the subscription+battle pass

dusty tiger
#

I haven't been. But I probably should be.
I have just been spending $100 each banner that has a new character. (On top of BP and Sub)

wet crane
#

oh lol

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yea then you are a mid spender

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I can't justify paying more than $5-15 for a video game / month

dusty tiger
#

That is very good self control. 😸

wet crane
#

you just have to ignore the FOMO 😄

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do you use older characters?

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like 1.x

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I rarely use them anymore

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except Changli

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and well ShoreKeeper ofc

dusty tiger
#

tbf there aren't a ton of premium 1.x characters.
SK, Changli, Camellya, Zhezhi (/wCarlotta only) and Jiyan (rare occasion) are ones that I use.

Which just leave Jinhsi. Who is still good. I just rather play Zani.

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Actually did tower with Camellya today and she clear 1 second faster than my Phrolova team. lol
3:46 remaining VS 3:45

midnight tide
#

So ?

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She’s doing more overall damage that’s just a fact lol

wet crane
midnight tide
midnight tide
#

like her raw damage without any designed support abilites is just higher

wet crane
#

yes Galbrena depends more on her teammate

midnight tide
#

true

wet crane
#

Augusta is a great solo character

midnight tide
#

on the overall team damage I guess Iuno is doing a lot more than Qiuyan hence the damage difference

wet crane
#

its pretty similar

midnight tide
#

23k is not significant yes

wet crane
#

that phrolova team looses by rotation time

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they do 2 mill+

midnight tide
#

oof

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I mean Phro is buffing echo damage too

wet crane
#

I still think that the Galbrena/Q/Phrolova is the BiS team if you can execute the rotation perfectly

#

these calcs are misleading

midnight tide
#

how perfectly are we talking about here ? Like Changli quickswap team level of perfectly ?

wet crane
#

its just hypercarry

wet crane
#

but he is as hard to use as chalcharo

midnight tide
#

charlcharo you need to be using his forte pixel perfect right ? Or is it something else

wet crane
#

yes and you have to master the timing

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timing is going to be the key element with Q

midnight tide
#

So Phrolova is doing more than SK there because of her personal damage rather than her echo buff

wet crane
#

yea

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if you can execute a 2-3 forte rotation with Q during Phrolovas liberation then that 2.0 mill is going to be 2.3

midnight tide
#

this is nuts

wet crane
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It’s going to be super hard probably xD

midnight tide
#

Do you have some carte calcs with you ?

midnight tide
#

thanks !

wet crane
#

np

midnight tide
#

damn now imagine chisa instead of aero rover

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I guess I'll have to pull for ciaconna then

wet crane
#

aero rover’s signature sword is going to be hard to replace

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but yea I hope that we can replace Aero Rover

wet crane
#

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Hello ShoreKeeper I mean Cantarella, I mean Rebecca

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lol…

bleak light
#

Might even be better than Qiuyuan for comfort reason becuz you dont get interrupted with Lupa kekpepehands

wet crane
bleak light
wet crane
#

more than fine

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BiS level

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atm

#

The damage difference between the Gal/Q/Sk and Gal/Q/Lupa teams is 2k

bleak light
#

Especially his own number kinda underwhelming

wet crane
#

the damage is not bad but he is hard to play

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he is not a main dps but a hybrid

#

but I will probably skip him yea

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the quickswap Galbrena team maybe 20% “weaker” and you have no healer

bleak light
wet crane
#

if played correctly

bleak light
#

They are true hybrid

wet crane
#

he is similar to brant but brant does more damage yea

#

Iuno is not even a hybrid she is a normal DPS lol

#

she does 1.1 mill+ DPR with a single forte liberation cast

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brant needs 2 fortes to deal ~1 mill

bleak light
midnight tide
#

We have a Phoebe simp and a Qiuyan fanboy in here kekpepehands

#

Joke aside Qiuyan doesnt seem to have a lot of flexibility for now. Seems like his only viable team is going to be with galb, which significantly lower his pull value

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Considering Galb can easily perform decently well with other teams (mono fusion for example, even sk + phro is not even dat bad)

dusty tiger
midnight tide
midnight tide
wet crane
foggy mica
alpine orchid
#

My baizhi and verina are very budget so I wasn't sure kekpepehands

wet crane
alpine orchid
#

I'll have to build them up more and use them in more teams

wet crane
#

building Verina is not a bad idea, but don't invest too much into her

alpine orchid
#

I had her built super budget from launch kekpepehands

wet crane
#

her healing scales off of attack

alpine orchid
#

Okay, that's good to know

wet crane
#

SK's scales off of hp

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SK is easier to build, maybe

#

you need ~40k hp, ~230% ER, 250-300% CD

#

or well, all you need is ER% and Attack for Verina

clear holly
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wet crane
#

the 2.8 leaks are exciting, Chisa is actually a general support

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or more like a general hybrid

#

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I’m kinda worried about 3.0 tho, it’s going to be an “academy/school” arc

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Rover is getting a school uniform…

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I don’t want wuwa to turn into Persona lol

bleak light
verbal schooner
#

They even got the halos

wet crane
#

these are colab “skins”

midnight tide
#

the new region won't use that theme

#

the 2.8 map is just an entry to this region without actually being a huge part of it if that makes sens

wet crane
midnight tide
#

really ?

wet crane
#

and those characters above are the starter 3.0 characters

midnight tide
#

oh

wet crane
midnight tide
#

I thought the new region would be a cyberpunk kinda of maps ?

wet crane
#

3.5-3.6 maybe

#

it’s going to be some kind of academy town/city

#

3.0

midnight tide
#

that's a bit underwhelming. I really like the persona franchise but it doesnt sit right with wuwa lore

wet crane
#

yea

midnight tide
#

and it doesnt really fit the post apocaliptic tone too, tho rinascita wasnt very great to that regard neither except a few spot

wet crane
#

3.0 kinda sounds like ananta ngl

#

I mean the vibe

#

but we will see

midnight tide
wet crane
#

yea I don’t want high school
drama in wuwa lol

midnight tide
#

🤣 I mean some poeple do call it gathering wives so

#

but really cringe to say it for teenage girl for sure

wet crane
#

Chisa is an ex student btw

#

she is supposed to be older or something

midnight tide
#

yeah I saw she has a condition with her eyes too

wet crane
#

yea

midnight tide
#

her and builing are very interesting kit wise

wet crane
#

her kit looks interesting and Buling looks awesome

midnight tide
#

I was right to hold on and not pull for galb

#

tho i will get her next rerun

wet crane
#

I’m going to use Buling with Carlotta

midnight tide
#

replacing who ?

wet crane
#

Cantarella

#

I don’t like Zhezhi

midnight tide
#

I think she will take my SK spot for that team

#

or maybe Zhezhi right I need her for my Jinhsi team

wet crane
#

Chisa is going to replace SK in the phrolova team

#

and Aero Rover in the Cart team

#

probably

midnight tide
#

yes but I still think reruning carte with chisa was a better call than Phoebe

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or cantarella

#

they're keeping her for 3.0 along with a new skin

wet crane
midnight tide
#

Why arent we getting carte is my issue here

wet crane
pulsar gazelle
#

brothers
I miss you all
Brothers, do you drink alcohol?
I've been drinking, I've been drinking too much, and I think of you guys

grave tiger
#

damn

echo ridge
proven comet
sharp quail
#

@dusty tiger

#

kekpepehands doesnt look gud

sharp quail
#

Uhh i dont really have HDR monitor just someone told me to try it on my SDR screen

sharp quail
#

Looka good now i think

wet crane
#

huh 3.0 is not a high school arc haha, thank god

dusty tiger
#

Screenshot looks pretty good imo

grave tiger
#

who's Mario

#

i dont get it

#

sorry

sour cloud
#

tough crowd

sturdy cloak
#

It's an Italian accent joke.
I think🥴 ?

grave tiger
#

Im italian and I still dont get it

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maybe im retarded idk

#

oh wait did you mean Luca

#

i think i got it

dusty tiger
#

It's an American caricature of an Italian person more specifically.

And even more specifically, Mario.

drowsy wolf
#

@halcyon meteor the moment i use dldsr renodx just stop working on dx11 is that a bug ?

#

scene grading and color grading just stop working

clear holly
#

even if you set desktop resolution to dldsr res before launching the game ?

drowsy wolf
#

01:30:15:279 [25212] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::GetPipelineShaderDetails(Pipeline not found for handle: 0x000000010a559538)
01:30:15:280 [25212] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::GetPipelineShaderDetails(Pipeline not found for handle: 0x000000010a558278)
01:30:15:280 [25212] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::GetPipelineShaderDetails(Pipeline not found for handle: 0x000000010a559538)
01:30:15:280 [25212] | ERROR | [RenoDX] utils::shader::GetPipelineShaderDetails(Pipeline not found for handle: 0x000000010a558278)

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i think renodx is trying to do those pipeline but they dont exist in dx11

#

no map are just all lock to a maximum of 203 nits

#

and it does this also

#

the error change only in dx11 i tried it in dx12 it didnt have those

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okok ty

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im using the one from renodx

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is the renodx build

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6.5.1

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ok let me try

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it does the same thing with 6.6.1

clear holly
#

Vivian in wuwa 🤯

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what is this team lol

drowsy wolf
#

im using 2.25x legacy scaling on a ultrawide 1440p monitor

drowsy wolf
#

🙂

drowsy wolf
clear holly
#

True, though I see her enough in zzz

clear holly
#

I would've pulled her, if not for fleurdelys form (everyone say they prefer fleurdelys, but not me lol)

drowsy wolf
#

both are good

#

same person anyway

clear holly
#

I just don't like fleurdelys design :/
Mommy body but not mommy clothes 😔

drowsy wolf
#

i just pull for any female character in the game except roccia

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no male ofc

clear holly
#

I pulled for Xiangli Yao 😬 and his weapon
(Yes, I missed the free copy)

drowsy wolf
#

i stoped playing when he was free because the game was boring i came back at 2.0 and stayed

clear holly
#

yeah same

clear holly
drowsy wolf
#

@halcyon meteor i think they changed something in dx11 even when i disable dldsr it stil doesnt work

drowsy wolf
clear holly
#

Vivian too, you have a thing for elves

drowsy wolf
glad mauve
#

Read that as dumpling

drowsy wolf
#

ffs but can you check on why i get so many error in dx11? ty

#

it kinda lag my game because is constanly reporting error i got like 600000 in like couple of minutes]

drowsy wolf
#

those are the initial i refuse to believe they redid everything on dx11

crystal thistle
#

Well u can use dlss but not ray tracing

#

Regardless I will never abandon RTGI for some downbad mods

clear holly
#

yeah, it's AI slop anyway lol

vital moss
#

Doubt it

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Unless that pic was ai generated

drowsy wolf
#

ok tyty

clear holly
fallen roost
#

less blatant nazism please.

dusty tiger
#

Bro on a watchlist now. XP

echo ridge
#

what happened here

clear holly
#

Can't like hugo boss outfit in 2025 smh

fallen roost
#

don't try to gaslight me

#

and it can't be both Hugo Boss and Nationale Volksarmee consider the latter is after Hugo Boss was already dead

#

1 week timeout for the gaslighting

dusty tiger
#

Bro could have just said nothing. lol

echo ridge
vernal mist
#

whats wrong with nazi uniforms, its like the coolest military uniform according to fashion experts and historians (aesthetically)

#

I remember watching a hour documentary on germany's uniforms in WW2 and how they like changed

#

and why they look how they do

alpine kestrel
#

I think its in the context of his other comments referencing jews

#

and when he got banned from SK for calling people the n word

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and when he got banned from the reno github

vernal mist
#

is that the guy from long ago

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that went

#

"whats the difference between sk and reno"

alpine kestrel
#

no i think that was someone else

#

he's foul tarnished / solaire / master baiter / godefroy

vernal mist
#

I barely remember 3 people, you remember the same guy and his 4 names

alpine kestrel
#

he's had like 5 alts that all got banned from hdr den

#

he was the guy that called you a nihilist

vernal mist
#

idr anybody calling me that

alpine kestrel
#

the pride flag guy

vernal mist
#

to be honest idk what I talked about yesterday with anybody so

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I dont see profile pictuers

#

classic mode/irc mode

#

unless I talk to somebody daily, I legit forget they exist

alpine kestrel
#

he uses differnt names and profile pics, but he has the same behavioral patterns

vernal mist
#

yea I dont know

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thats above me, reading people's fucking behavior patterns on discord

alpine kestrel
#

i like drama

vernal mist
#

I never read old messages unless somebody pings me

#

and even then I might only read whats in the ping

echo ridge
vital moss
vernal mist
#

I used IRC my whole life, and when I started using discord I came from IRC

#

nested messages + pfps was uncomfy

vital moss
#

I do use a different theme though

fallen roost
#

mIRC32.exe

drowsy wolf
#

@halcyon meteor btw before u patch it mind checking if it is actually clamp i have a feeling is only me somehow

vital moss
#

If you mean augusta I have that too

#

And I could have sworn I saw something with sanhua but I don't really use her anymore

vernal mist
drowsy wolf
#

np pretty sure im the only dx11 anyway

wet crane
#

Chisa is doing some serious damage based on the leaks so far

#

they are going to nerf her for sure

#

or maybe not

#

she is a hybrid after all not a regular support

short needle
vernal mist
#

not using it is fine

#

he said he never heard of it

midnight tide
#

or maybe slightly

#

like this is the bait character by design. The last new character before a new region and cartweel rerun

#

they want to milk as much as they can before it

#

I wonder when we can get some gameplay...Maybe this week-end

raven parrot
#

Does anyone have numbers on how much pulls exploration/quests each region gives?

dusty tiger
#

Kind of crazy that 2.0 only had like 30 more pulls than a patch

midnight tide
dusty tiger
#

I would expect a full version update to have the most. But I'm not a big gacha player so I don't know the norms of the genre.

wet crane
#

30 more pulls is 4800 astrites, thats not bad actually

midnight tide
#

kuro got some heat because of the rewards of the first aniv which were underwhelming

#

still better than genshin

tawny geyser
#

Hey guys,

I play WuWa using MFG 4x with DLSS on Quality/Ultimate quality.
And bright scenes/lighting keep flickering constantly. I'm using wuwano's latest renoDX patch and the issue still persists.

Any idea how to cull the flickering?
I feel like it's also causing my overall framerate to be very jittery, the game don't feel smooth at all.

fallen roost
#

downgrade to dlssfg 3.8.1 or try #1413548071987576862

rigid yoke
#

dlss fix don't work with renodx, FSR FG will crash once on, whereas XeFG will work but Reshade will be off

alpine orchid
#

I really hope they don't do the cube stuff again next year

midnight tide
#

And the rewards were really bad especially for a first anniversary

echo ridge
#

since you're talking about fsrfg and xefg

#

its not compatible with optiscaler

sturdy cloak
sour cloud
sturdy cloak
#

Unfortunately, this is already what I'm using. Weirdly enough, it tends to almost always crash while opening the utility wheel.

vital moss
#

RenoDX looking excellent on my new monitor ✌️

rigid yoke
drowsy wolf
#

any 4k oled monitor recommandation for hdr?

dusty tiger
#

What size?

drowsy wolf
#

i play comp game also

#

kinda need one with high refresh

#

rn i have a oled ultrawide 1440p

#

i kinda want one with higher peak brightness and higher resolution

dusty tiger
#

4k at 27" is kind of overkill. The PPI of 1440p @ 27" is already 111

drowsy wolf
#

Need better clarity:)

drowsy wolf
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i had a woled 1440 27 in before i switch to ultrawide and i regret it

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proven comet
wet crane
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Chisa's gameplay is kinda mid ngl

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but Buling is awesome

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this is very cool tho

dusty tiger
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Is early. Things look a lot more impressive closer to release I find.

I remember Galbrena looking pretty mid in beta.

wet crane
dusty tiger
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There are a number in the game that are. Then they just splash a bunch of effects on top closer to release. Lol

sturdy cloak
wet crane
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Wuwa and ZZZ are still the best when it comes to animations

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especially combat

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Chisa basically replaces Rover in the Cartethyia and Zani teams

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and that's it

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but she is a future proof character

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we are probably getting a lot of dot damage characters in 3.0

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the difference is only 6% for now

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which is nothing

sturdy cloak
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That would allow people to use both teams in endgame content though. Until now, it was one or the other. I might not be very interested personally, but that might actually make an easy upgrade for some people, enabling them to get one more team running.

midnight tide
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Augusta is still the best animated character of 2.0

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Idk maybe chisa's animation will get better closer to the release but I doubt it

midnight tide
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2.6 was peak lol

midnight tide
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except the story 🤣

wet crane
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I mean Phrolova is close third

midnight tide
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Phrolova has the 1.0 design sadly

wet crane
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I have no issue with the outfit it's one of the better looking ones

midnight tide
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I find it really simple, like Scar's design

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like something is missing

wet crane
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I like simple

midnight tide
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fair enough

wet crane
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Cartethyia is probably the worst offender

midnight tide
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I kinda expected more from Chisa tho

wet crane
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her outfit looks ridiculous

midnight tide
wet crane
midnight tide
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except the thing on her neck

midnight tide
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her kit looks good

wet crane
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Lupa's outfit is maybe even worse tbh xD

midnight tide
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I agree with you here

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kinda sad because her story is the one I liked the most

wet crane
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yea

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I mean I just want believable outfits

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that people would actually wear

midnight tide
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🤣

wet crane
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it's not horrible

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but makes little sense

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that blindfold thing makes no sense either

midnight tide
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so I guess genshin's outfit is not your taste in general

wet crane
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nah

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some of the outfits look good

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but I don't like genshin's style in general