The Witcher 3

[tall merlin]

I just wanted K with bug fixes

not something that looks like im running 1080p internal 50% of the time

[gusty silo]

try L, its heavy though

[tall merlin]

tested it and in the problem areas it looked 1:1, seriously any interior was so noticeably aliased

literally looks like i turned AA off

other times its very good though 😭

[cold basin]

hmm preset L at balanced in witcher 3 actually doesnt look bad

M looked pretty oversharpened in the grass here

not even sure i can record that properly smh

im already doing 30fps 125mbit bitrate

looks nowhere close to what i see in game bruh

[rugged nest]

I cant tell a difference between the 2

I swapped realtime with the dev dll

[cold basin]

what dev dll

[rugged nest]

Its probably just more temporally stable in certain scenes (L)

[rugged nest]

Get this one from swapper

And set all Dlss presets to default

You can switch real time between all presets with this

Also activate the overlay to see the hotkeys

[tall merlin]

isnt it like ctrl+j or smt

gotta test this later

ty

[rugged nest]

ctrl+alt+]

In my keyboard it was ctrl+alt+¿

Seeing the realtime difference from K to M is insane

Do it in a place with trees

[rugged nest]

For this make sure to not have any override in inspector or something. All has to be default for it to work

[cold basin]

rip i dont have swapper

ok got the dll now

[rugged nest]

Welp I mean theres other ways to get it

[cold basin]

i just got swapper since theres a portable version

didnt wanna install some shit

[rugged nest]

Btw is display commander working for you with the non reflex cap?

[cold basin]

i dont use that

no clue

[rugged nest]

Oh I thought you did mb

[cold basin]

for witcher 3 driver cap works best for me

[rugged nest]

Might try that

Wanted to use native frames pacing tho since FG has shit pacing

[cold basin]

driver is native

has best pacing for me in witcher

[rugged nest]

Native frames pacing means pacing the non generated frames

Driver doesn’t do that afaik

But I’ll try that

[stark anvil]

Optiscaler’s reflex capping works really well for me. Weirdly display commanders is juddery

Probably same thing as driver cap

[rugged nest]

Yeah reflex cap on DC is always bad for me

And the other one doesn’t always work well for some reason

I’ll try optiscaler

[cold basin]

i would be very surprised if NVIDIAs cap isnt FG aware

it also auto caps to the gsync vrr reflex cap by default even if you set it higher

like if i set 119cap it will still do 116

[rugged nest]

Yeah but I need to cap under Gsync cap

I want to cap to 80fps

[cold basin]

ok so cap under it

where problem

[rugged nest]

Frametimes are shit with FG and I get flicker

[cold basin]

i run 100fps cap myself in witcher

[rugged nest]

I guess I can try normal cap on Witcher

[cold basin]

no probelms

[rugged nest]

Maybe even RTSS

[cold basin]

no...

rtss sucks

in witcher

just use driver ffs

[rugged nest]

Ok ok lol

[cold basin]

K | L | M

L M

M looks more unstable in the grass for example at the bottom

K seems to have more temporal stability i think

So K then L then M in terms of image stability

i think the noise in the grass for example is what makes it look more oversharpened in M

this dev dll is sick with the live switching, simplifies comparisons so much

[tall merlin]

im gonna do a really high bitrate recording later comparing them in a couple different spots. idk how poorly discord compresses compared to youtube tho

but i can put it on either

[cold basin]

i think the video i put up looks good on discord no?

125mbit 30fps

[tall merlin]

oh i didnt even see that

somehow

[cold basin]

[tall merlin]

thought it was a photo im cooked

[cold basin]

[tall merlin]

just woke up chill on me im just a vessel bro

[heady dune]

Honestly I don't know if it's because I haven't played in a while, but the game looks incredible, the fire! I don't even know which version of RenoDX I'm using, but maybe it's the last one you sent.

[slate forge]

you playing at 4k? not my experience at all tbh, I instantly recognized M as being more stable than K in W3. Branches were more stable, grass looked better etc.

I play on DLSS Performance-4k

[cold basin]

i mean

watch the vid

[slate forge]

Weird, the starting and final resolution must make a big difference for some of these models I guess.

[cold basin]

look at the cloth at the back of the neck

K is still very much the most stable

while m isnt good

im dlss balanced atm

at performance mode L is arguably even better

M stays dogshit though

[slate forge]

Just popped into the game to look at M again. M looks incredibel fo rme

no joke

I get the feeling M is very very specifically made for 1080p-4k upscaling or something. I mean on my end its a straight improvment and not even close

if you would have told me a few months ago it was preset K quality mode I would have believed you

[cold basin]

brother

the res doesnt matter

4k performance preset M

noise city

[tall merlin]

i get that noise on literally all of the cloth banners etc in any interior

really on everything

L or M

its so hard to ignore

[cold basin]

yeah, M is the worst for me though

[tall merlin]

walking around the game world M will look solid for a bit. go into interior like a brothel type jawn and there is insane noise on literally everything

[cold basin]

L and K are close enough that i like using L

[slate forge]

I did notice when I zoomed in on a guys collar I did see some noise (that'd i'd never actually see while playing).

At least on my screen the game looks significantly better overall. Better aliasing, noticeably better at preserving fine details like embers or specular highlights etc. I do see some noise when I looks for it though. Will have to play some more.

[tall merlin]

i get the feeling its not the sharpness causing this instability

[cold basin]

that noise is everywhere

[tall merlin]

its literally insane

[cold basin]

you just dont notice it yet

[slate forge]

What I need to test mor is L for ultra performance. which after soem brief testing was damn impressive

[cold basin]

L works at performance or balanced just as well

[tall merlin]

go to the place where u meet the lady who helps u dream about ciri, in the room up top where she is is noise city

damn near every material in that room looks horrible

immediately resolved by swapping to K

sad

i expected a lot better

[cold basin]

i need a preset L without the noise

[tall merlin]

legit

[cold basin]

then we are ballin

cause the clarity improvements overall from M and L are great

[slate forge]

Dlss swapper to test the differences easily right?

[tall merlin]

get the dev dll

and u can swap on the fly

in game

[cold basin]

dev dll:

and turn on the debug overlay

[tall merlin]

yea

[slate forge]

Ultra performance looking "good" instead of just playable will be the long term success of this though I'd imagine.

[cold basin]

who cares about ultra perf

aint no one upscaling from 720p

or even lower if you dont have a 4k display

[tall merlin]

would always rather use dlsstweaks and force 40% at bare minimum if i absolutely had to but even then for that you'd need a good base output like 2160p

would never go to 33%

thats just absurdly low

[slate forge]

I do which is why it's nice, was doing some breif testing with Jedi survivor ealier and was super impressed

[tall merlin]

i play 50% at 4k

[cold basin]

yeah 50% is absolute minimum for me with 4.5

[tall merlin]

but i am on an LCD and its slow so having the extra frames is always nice. 55% and onwards is the better place to be

balanced territory

[cold basin]

on dlss 4.0 K i was using balanced absolute minimum

so new dlss bumped me a step down for what looks acceptable to me

but yeah the noise is whack

ohno i found a diff issue with Preset L now

fucking snow flakes on skellige had pretty visible trails

[weary socket]

I think I'll just stay with preset K for now, L and M clearly need more time in the oven with all the noise and oversharpening issues

especially noticeable on foliage and hair in Witcher 3

and in GTAO while using L or M, instead of just ghosting the contour of a rear of a car in motion, it just now "reflects" the whole rear of the car on the asphalt, surrounded by some black squared shadows

-# (yes, I did a clean reinstall and yes, it doesn't happen with older presets)

[cold basin]

lmao

yeah i dunno

probabaly sticking with k as well

[slate forge]

Preset M for sure. Clarity is king. Either way, these new models have a lot of promise though. If they work out the kinks it'll something special. Played a few hours of Jedi Survivor at 4k Ultra performance and in-motion the game looks extremely good considering it's being rendered at 720p. Has some ghosting in edge cases and a weird bug where when you stop moving for 3+ seconds the the image degrades for a second before resolving again continually (wonder if that tied to the noise people see in some cases since people often don't move when benchmarking for stuff like this).

Despite that, the game ran about as smooth as it is capable of running I'd imagine so it's almost tempting to play the game like that (not quite good enough yet though).

[rose whale]

How does it compare to preset k performance

I also generally like the new presets. Looks sharper but the highlights and volumetric stands out the most. Highlights don't look as clamped as before.
So i prefer a little bit of maybe oversharpening over the preset K

[weary socket]

I really wish Nvidia would let us tune the preset sharpening ourselves at least a little

[night yarrow]

is it there with taa off

[prisma bramble]

That's assuming the black box that's is DLSS, that can even be adjusted

[woven yacht]

preset M on performance looks very good to me.

the main issue is in games with RR

It's significantly worse with RR on

it looks they didn't update the RR preset

strange that DLSS Balanced and Quality in the games I teste preset K looks better

this preset M seems to be good on performance only tbh

[elfin gyro]

i think preset M is made for performance specificly so thats probably why

[woven yacht]

on stability preset M seems very consistent, but on details at higher resolution look worse than K

[rose whale]

Super Resolution, ANY preset, will become completely irrelevant, because SR won't be used you will instead use upscaling that RR has built-in, presets A-C being CNN and D/E being Transformer

[woven yacht]

Yes with RR it is like that

that's why Preset M looks worse with RR on (cause essentially is not being applied)

[proper valve]

so that's a moot point then. You can even have dlss 2 sr there

[rugged nest]

Night and day

I kid you not K looks blurry in comparison

[cold basin]

your candles n fire are deepfried sir

[heady dune]

not to my eyes 😉

[woven yacht]

what you learn in here is that when it comes down to fire and candles @cold basin knows something about

[cold basin]

[clever cape]

Oh my god are those blacks crushed. I can't see a thing.

[unreal badge]

invictus' nightmare is that someone installs mod Turn on the Lights to his game and sets it to automatically activate all candles/lightsources during night as he comes in range, so that he has to slow down and inspect each one in turn instead of playing.

(I use that mod this way, love it. But during earlier W3 plays, I enjoyed flaming up candles myself, but this fascination has passed away over the years.)

[torn citrus]

how do you do that?

[torn citrus]

nvm i did it manually

[stark anvil]

I might have to accept that I just need to drop textures to ultra 😩

I don't even know what the impact of that will be like with hd reworked installed tbh

I should get some comparisons I guess

hm, difference isn't that large actually

should see what the actual vram usage difference is like

nope still having severe problems in novigrad

maybe I can scrape by with preset K and no framegen

wish a 5090 was a remotely sensible purchase for me right now lol

[rose whale]

Novigrad is very cpu intensive

Which gpu do you have? Was a 4070 ti iirc?

[rare scroll]

yeah nofpsgrad is awful specially with rt on

decreasing npc numbers helps a little

[unreal badge]

in case you haven't, you can lower the amount of background npcs spawned, I sometimes go down to medium

[stark anvil]

Yeah I’m just also running into the vram bug the game has where if you hit 95% utilization you end up with a runaway problem until you reboot the game or restart the graphics driver

And 5070 ti. I’m just pushing things too far with texture mods and rt improvements

Have to pick what I want to give up

Though I think ditching framegen might be enough

[unreal badge]

my initial test with hacky framegen (AMD) on OptiScaler seemed great, but found that only while standing still... and couldn't actually play the game, not even ride on an empty Skellige island smoothly. So I disabled framegen again, but kept the DLAA -> FSR4 upscaling/AA. It seems to cost me less than 10 fps compared to game's regular FSR2 option. I get crashes with driver timeout every 2 or 3 hours, but that's the same without OptiScaler.

still, Novigrad might kill my system now... tries

[pulsar radish]

Anyone know how to deal with the shadow pop in? I think it's related to RT shadows?

[stark anvil]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/8865

doesn't 100% solve it but makes it better

[rose whale]

This happens to me too. 5070 ti

Witcher 3 sure is so demanding hope witcher 4 performs better lol

[slate forge]

there is also a specific RT shadows mod that helps with Tree/object shadow pop-in and stuff more specifically. Also, if you use that reflection mod I'd suggest changing "RtRadianceScreenTraceZThreshold" in the .ini to somethin like "0.0005" or some small value like that. It is set at zero in the download but that negatively effects the look of certain reflections in my testing

[tall merlin]

have u seen this? https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/8083?tab=posts it is a compromise but it might help your game not run out so fast

personally i just restart it when it happens, it takes at least an hour usually for me so im not too bothered

[rare scroll]

is this the issue where if your native resolution is 4k and your card has 16gb vram it starts leaking

[cold basin]

the highlights on the top of the grip with the bear on it look alot better and cleaner with 4.5

K | M

im so unsure what i prefer

[cold basin]

the puddle has MUCH better specular highlights

the diff with igni embers in the environment is crazy

Rain xD

[rose whale]

Compare 4.0 with 4.5 with geralds actual armour

Night and day as well

[weary socket]

I still will take a more stable image over the noise/sharpness city that is preset M

🤔

plus I've noticed that parts of UI ghost even more on preset M compared to K (at least in my testing in Witcher 3 and GTAO)

[cold basin]

Im using M at 70% rn

Pretty happy actually with that

Gonna see whether or not I’ll run into issues

[night yarrow]

i use L in the witcher 3

cuz i feel its not a game made with taa in mind

[cold basin]

L has issues

sadly

ghosting and some particles like candles breaking

[cold basin]

very poggies

snow trails with L

[night yarrow]

nah just pretend it doesnt exist

just like everyone copes with k

[cold basin]

[night yarrow]

we now cope with L

[cold basin]

Im still unsure, i hope they soon come with a 4.5 preset for quality and DLAA

and not leave us stuck with this for another year now

[night yarrow]

M is too sharp i think

exposes more aliasing

not a big issue in this game

[cold basin]

yeah thats why i use it with 70% scaling rn

[night yarrow]

at least

[cold basin]

seems alright

[night yarrow]

i stick with L quality now

(for games that it works

[torn citrus]

M/L is just so much better in witcher 3 rn

[night yarrow]

ya

because like i said

its not made with taa in mind

[cold basin]

switching from M to F in the dev dll is crazy

[night yarrow]

cyberpunk is a shimmering hell with L or M

[torn citrus]

K blends the grass and the vegetation a lot, M/L doesn't.

[night yarrow]

F is the most blurry one ofc

F should only be used with DLAA

even at quality its super blurry

[cold basin]

which does help with creating a calmer image tbh

[torn citrus]

comparing ultra performance with K, M/L is also crazy

[cold basin]

K has like no aliasing which is nice

[night yarrow]

wtf

ultra performance

[torn citrus]

cnn model doesn't do that.

[night yarrow]

because it over kills details

[cold basin]

K isnt CNN

[night yarrow]

#🎟️clubroom message

here

K completely killed specular reflections

but it provided THE best aa

[torn citrus]

I know, I remember when I was comparing preset E with K, and I can tell you I was confused why K blended the grass and vegetation

[torn citrus]

5 dolla 😔

[night yarrow]

ya that what it does basically

it treats stuff thats not aliasing as aliasing

and smoothes things

[torn citrus]

true

[night yarrow]

i always dont like K

but tbh

in tw3 its not bad

because tw3 doesnt have volumetrics

which is the weakest point of K

[torn citrus]

haha yeah, I tested bf6 br mode, and the game looked smooth with K and switching it to M/L made it look much sharper, and all the effects look distinct, and the difference between overlayed effects is clear.

[cold basin]

the specular highlights

peak

the eyes actually look alot better because of that

[night yarrow]

ya k kills small specular details

it just treats them as aliasing

[cold basin]

F does too

[night yarrow]

all old dlss presets do that

[cold basin]

yeh

[night yarrow]

its just K does it more

its quite bizzare tbh

we never got correct hdr highlights in a lot of game ?

[cold basin]

Seems so

Either that or the games hdr highlights were designed around TAA/pre 4.5 DLSS

[torn citrus]

TAA still clamps HDR highlights

[night yarrow]

it depends

in hitman it doesnt

but all the old dlss presets do

[prisma bramble]

time to load up RETURNAL

[night yarrow]

does the debug dlls include cnn presets

except F

[prisma bramble]

I think it only includes F j k l m

[torn citrus]

yea, kind of sucks that it doesn't have E

F was for Ultra Performance originally

[night yarrow]

tried returnal myself

i think L/M looks good there

[rose whale]

By the way, when comparing DLSS in terms of shimmering, keep in mind that Witcher 3 has its own issues

Setting antistropic filtering to 16x in the driver menu reduces it a little

[cold basin]

?

[gusty silo]

Good lord i didn't know how bad K was griefing particles

[night yarrow]

#1428442411071180861 message

not just particles

literally all small size details

though E also does that to some degree

[gusty silo]

What about combining DLDSR and M

[night yarrow]

no frames

[gusty silo]

Use DLDSR and M 50% instead I mean

[night yarrow]

the cost of L/M is based on interal res

[gusty silo]

To minimize sharpen issue

[night yarrow]

its not an over sharpen issue tbh

[gusty silo]

Dldsr and use smoothing at 100% so no extra sharpen filter I bet would balance it out

[night yarrow]

theres zero reason to use sharpening filter with L/M

because its basically on no taa image

absolutely no extra sharpness should be applied

[cold basin]

Sir I don’t want to play at 30 frames

With Fg

[cold basin]

Yeah

[gusty silo]

50% and dldsr 1.78 is the same res as 67% and no dldsr

[cold basin]

DSR also makes MPO go poof

[gusty silo]

Not on 50 series it doesnt

[night yarrow]

the new models...might need some blur filter

[cold basin]

Do I look like a rich boi

[night yarrow]

maybe fxaa from reshade

[gusty silo]

Yes

[night yarrow]

you can try that

[gusty silo]

Your name is red

[cold basin]

Im on 4090

Cuh

[gusty silo]

Well who cares about mpo if it makes M look really good

I'm just saying try for science

[night yarrow]

seriously

[cold basin]

You do that

[night yarrow]

if you just want a smooth/blur filter

just use reshade fxaa

[cold basin]

Hell nah

[gusty silo]

Why are we against trying things for science

[cold basin]

Fuck outta here

[night yarrow]

i just cope with L

just like everyone coped with K

[cold basin]

I just test whatever is viable to me xD

[gusty silo]

Why do I keep getting plasma'd 😭😭😭

[night yarrow]

and enjoy the sharpness

[cold basin]

I mean I can test but my FPS is already struggling with M and 70% scaling with just 3840x1600 UW

Can barely keep 100FPS with FG on

Higher res to upscale to certainly won’t help

[night yarrow]

time to buy a 5090 lightning

[gusty silo]

The fps should be the same

[cold basin]

For the cheap price of 5000€

[night yarrow]

upscaling to higher res costs more

[cold basin]

Upscaling to a higher output res is slower

[night yarrow]

dldsr also has its own cost

take 1sec to verify with optiscaler's output scaling option

you dont need dldsr

with a game have dlss

[cold basin]

Lol really

I’ve never used optiscaler

[night yarrow]

you should

[cold basin]

Sounds cool

[night yarrow]

real time presets change

just like the debug dll

[cold basin]

Damn

Im out here with the debug DLL like a bozo

[night yarrow]

[cold basin]

[gusty silo]

😭

[night yarrow]

plus relfex limiter and rcas and vsync toggle with fg

[cold basin]

Yeah I don’t need any of that

[night yarrow]

you need the limiter no ?

[gusty silo]

That's what display Commander is for

[night yarrow]

they are the same though

[gusty silo]

Nah, DC has better options

Sync to frame present with reflex > just turning on Nvidia reflex limiter

[night yarrow]

is there any difference

[gusty silo]

Yes, game dependent, but it makes frame pacing extremely good

Required to fix certain games like Clair obscur

[night yarrow]

do you judge pacing by frametime graph

[gusty silo]

I judge pacing by moving my camera and using my eyes

[night yarrow]

fine

[gusty silo]

I can't stand judder

[cold basin]

[gusty silo]

Especially since I use 3x mfg a lot of the time if it doesn't get the pacing right it's awful

[cold basin]

Yeah understandable

[gusty silo]

I sure hope the witcher 3 rumoured expansion upgrades streamline so we can use MFG

[cold basin]

I bet with good pacing 3x is actually super usable

[cold basin]

Lmao bro don’t get your hopes up

[gusty silo]

Yeah especially since I have 240hz monitor, the base is basically 75 fps to 225 fps and it's rock solid

[gusty silo]

https://tenor.com/view/imagine-john-lennon-may-dreamer-im-not-the-only-one-gif-4410375

[cold basin]

Hopefully LG will be on the 240hz grind for their TVs by the time we have 6090s

(They won’t)

[gusty silo]

HDMI 2.2 wen

[cold basin]

Not even that with DSC should
Be fine on 50 gen and newer

[gusty silo]

Do any LG tvs support dsc

[cold basin]

Yes?

How do you think they do 165hz lol

Black magic

[gusty silo]

Double HDMI input idk

[cold basin]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nahh-no-way-lmao-what-is-bro-saying-gif-16249600181008158825

[gusty silo]

Yeah 4k144 is limit of 48GBPS

[cold basin]

Yeh

[gusty silo]

So then it's just a panel limitation then

[cold basin]

More like their processing shit I bet can’t handle 240

[gusty silo]

The lg c6 looks like a good upgrade from C1 though

[cold basin]

Since lg uses same processor for 2 years though i guess 2028 would be earliest for potential 240

[night yarrow]

even the c2 is

c1 has no color boosting

[tall merlin]

https://youtu.be/sEGB_5GQ1AI?si=4MLEGDHUN3TYNc1N

[abstract tulip]

I wish he moved onto Cyberpunk

there are so many low poly meshes in that game that would really benefit some treatment from master Halk

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/7652

[heady dune]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/11683

I drop a new mod guys for ayone using controller 😉

Note how Geralt is faster in Combat Stance mode. In vanilla, speed is fixed and doesn't care about the tilt of the left stick.

[night yarrow]

i just tried that

and the input lag is a lot higher

more than 50ms at 120fps

[tall merlin]

been using since u released it, very very good mod

[rose whale]

Nice sounds like something i was looking for

[cold basin]

ohno i hope this isnt first signs of savegame corruption or sumn, i just had Geralt not appear anymore in the inventory screen, even saving and going back to main menu didnt work

had to fully restart the game

[night yarrow]

well i actually like the new presets so far

[cold basin]

Truly a sharp™ enjoyer

but yeah i agree

the longer i use it

the more i like it

im still using the dev dll

switching back to K a lot for comparisons

[night yarrow]

could never knew that there are so many small highlights in games

[cold basin]

eye opening

felt like putting glasses on

[night yarrow]

L is really expensive though

L with quality is like 5% faster than F with DLAA

[tall merlin]

starting to come around to the new models too

[rare scroll]

TI was right all this time, so many details lost because of the blur

as always the goat is a head of his time

[tall merlin]

https://fixupx.com/threatinteract/status/2009068337364644095

Threat Interactive (@ThreatInteract)

No it's not "optimized".
︀︀
︀︀It's just running on top end 2026 hardware & Nvidia is taking advantage of modern gullibleness by NOT labeling the 59fps footage resolution (it's not 4K).
︀︀
︀︀The "4k Path Tracing" the video title references is fake 4k upscaled from low res dlss.

Quoting Peter (@PeterP_1985)
︀
People saying "unoptimised".
︀︀
︀︀Native 4k with Path Tracing at damn close to 60 fps, is optimised

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FixupX · Jan 8, 2026, 1:03 AM

"fake 4k"

[torn citrus]

I will touch TI

[night yarrow]

everything is fake by his standard

no game renders everything at native res

if a game did that then its just stupid unoptimized trash

[quiet sandal]

GIGGGGGA BASSSED

[night yarrow]

well true optimized games would run everything at native res with no culling

[quiet sandal]

Metaphor was based all along?????

He should review

[night yarrow]

ya

true 4k game

[quiet sandal]

culling??? wtf is this shit

Real life doesnt cull

the objects are always there

[night yarrow]

real life sun is billions nits

its just a white blob to our eye

wtf

sdrlets were right

[cold basin]

man this is peak gaming right here

why the fuck is every single thing on the sea a goofy ass smuggler cache with 15 drowners

https://tenor.com/view/reee-pepe-frog-angry-angery-gif-18421495

[night pond]

CDPR devs tortured us with skellige

it isn't even proper POI

[cold basin]

they didnt even bother putting all the shit on the Progress on the path checklist mod

i now know why

[abstract tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[night yarrow]

its just ubisoftslop copy

[cold basin]

they really thought: damn Ubi making them good games

[quiet sandal]

When Ubislop do it = bad

When Polish do it = good

let me post the meme

[night yarrow]

Polishslop

cp2077 open world is even worse

[quiet sandal]

Witcherlets still cant refute this

[night yarrow]

nah gowr is fine

the skills is unlocked based on the weapon level

which generally scales with main game progress

[clever cape]

I might have missed a thing or two... this was a TW3 dedicated thread a few days ago. Now everyone is dumping on the game. I'm so lost😅 ...

[quiet sandal]

duality of gamers

[torn citrus]

reading the comment for this post was badd

[tall merlin]

it always is

[torn citrus]

oh yeah i got blocked too

[cold basin]

well uhh, in velen n shid i didnt even mind it much

but like

i am currently on my 14th smuggler cache back to back

im losing my mind rn

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweakin-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-25519944

especially because they ALL have these fucking drowners

my crossbow doing like 10 damage

have to shoot each bitch 3-4 times

actually crashing out rn

[night yarrow]

was it ?

doubt that

[rugged nest]

I went insane in Skellige trying to 100% it, absolutely not worth it

[cold basin]

game is great but like

this is actual slop game design

yes gib me 9 bajillion smuggler cashes pls

and make them all maximum annoying to loot

[hollow burrow]

so don't loot them

[cold basin]

my ocd wont lemme

[hollow burrow]

skill issue

[rugged nest]

I feel you

Took me 3 business days to do them all

[cold basin]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

[dim wyvern]

I guess they wanted people to be able to discover points of interest organically wherever they went/sailed, and didn't intend on people going to every POI, but then the decision to show all ? kind of ruins that organic sense of discovery.

[cold basin]

Perhaps but it doesn’t help that 90% just is smuggler caches with 5 drowners

Could’ve made like shipwrecks underwater and stuff like that

[abstract tulip]

I think I used the faster boat mod in Skellige last time I played through the game to help with the POIs

[cold basin]

Boutta just spam kill all cheat on these smuggler cashes

[stark anvil]

Are you doing it from the boat and not from underwater??

[cold basin]

No I’m underwater

The drowned dead die in like 2-3 hits, drowners in 4

Super annoying

The sirens are chill

The get one hit when the grab the boat

[gusty silo]

Bro you're supposed to click th gsync cap button

Of course it's gonna be bad if vrr is off cuz it's using vsync at display cap

[night yarrow]

except i did

do i have to turn off vsync ?

[gusty silo]

No, but what was it capping to?

It should be 116 or 115 if your displays 120hz

[night yarrow]

no i was at gsync cap

[gusty silo]

How much mfg

[night yarrow]

just 2x

here

[gusty silo]

What was the latency when you just used reflex

[night yarrow]

27ms

this is with that method, 52ms

[gusty silo]

There should only be 1 additional frame of latency, which would be 14ms at a base of 69 fps

Did it at least fix the frame pacing for you

Because Clair obscur stutters and judders in other modes

[night yarrow]

well i didnt get judders with reflex

maybe thats related to mfg ?

let me try 3x

well 3x is like 90ms+

[gusty silo]

Idk y you're getting like 4 frames of delay each time

[night yarrow]

are you playing with a mouse ?

[gusty silo]

No

3x mfg at 225 gsync cap so 75 fps base

And never have any issue with timing parries

[night yarrow]

no idea then

maybe a mfg issue

this game always runs ok-ish for me

[proper valve]

there's actual interviews with devs and they said they regret doing that lmao

[rugged nest]

Lesson learned at least lol

[quiet sandal]

proceeds to do it even worse in 2077

[pulsar radish]

Anyone know how to stop the game from triggering display sleep after a few minutes?

[tall merlin]

check ur gpu hotspot temps

use hw monitor

not ur average temp but ur hotspot

[woven yacht]

hi @cold basin would u mind sharing with me your Reno settings and also some good mods you have tested in TW3? ty

[rose whale]

https://youtu.be/sEGB_5GQ1AI

Damn wish I could use that with my 5070 ti. He even added wind effects to tends and such

[woven yacht]

later this year could be in many months though

[abstract tulip]

that's actually super impressive work

[unreal badge]

to ease the pain of clearing out all smuggler caches

• Boat Max Speed Config
• Geralt Mobility Speed Mod Next Gen (adjust swim speed)
• drink potion with Drowner pheromones (they only attack if you engage them first)

wait, nevermind 🙁 doesnt work under water

[rare scroll]

get the one shot damage crossbow mod

i use it when i dont want to deal with flying enemies

[cold basin]

Yeah that is what is annoying

I tried the pheromone thing

Thought I was gonna do a big brain play

[cold basin]

We'll see if that holds true for Witcher 4

[unreal badge]

I think I saw the same video, seem to recall they wanted player to be able to stumble on things to loot, maybe they originally weren't supposed to be all marked on the map as "to-do lists".

[cold basin]

Can do in a bit if I don’t forgor

[woven yacht]

No rush, when you have time

[cold basin]

The other speeds in the mobility thing are default at 1.0?

[unreal badge]

the mod comes with the numbers from the main description page, a bit too high. There were more reasonable numbers posted in the comment section,

Let me check what I ended up with... and yeah, I believe 1.0 would mean "vanilla" speed. My values (I mainly dislike the swimming slowing me down, but something sprinting without Roach is nice too).

sprintingSpeed = 1.2;
swimmingSpeed = 1.3;
divingSpeed = 1.5;
(run unchanged at 1.0)

[cold basin]

yeah i think the modpage says everything is set to 1.6 to default which if 1.0 is baseline is a bit crazy lmao

the boat thing is goated tho

ill just set it to 3x vanilla i dont even care

got the Bugatti boat

https://tenor.com/view/kenceng-ngebut-kecepatan-tinggi-400km-mantul-gif-12740626

ive already won all boat races anyways

[unreal badge]

it's your 100 % run, you can always slow down and enjoy the experience next time XD

[cold basin]

maybe not the bestest of ideas to do 100% run for first playthrough but whatever

[unreal badge]

Luckily, the urge to 100 %ing is not among my problems.

[cold basin]

rip cant use the player speed one

bunch of script errors

and i cba to debug that nor have the knowledge how to fix it without breaking stuff

boat speed will have to do

lol and that boat speed mod doesnt work it seems, atleast i dont feel like its any faster

and i have it set to 24 instead of 8

[unreal badge]

works for my controller. Are you on mouse & keyboard?

[cold basin]

controller

[unreal badge]

hm. Check the posts, author said game cannot handle more than around twice as fast. And it only affects the speed that you can get when "sprinting" with the boat, not the regular movement. For my Xbox controller it is when holding A button.

[cold basin]

yeah i mean ofc im "sprinting" too xd

i think i installed it wrong, im not sure im supposed to just put it in the mod folder like the folder structure suggests

[unreal badge]

sprinting mod maybe imperfect in some way, but the boat one ought to be faultless. Ah. Think I know.

you put the 2 lines from the text file into your own text file. It lives under documents > The Witcher 3: it is called dx12user.settings

[cold basin]

yeah i thnk so too

[unreal badge]

the mod is just zipped in that way so that the Witcher 3 Mod Manager can deal with it and add the user.settings from the mod into your own settings file. However if you install manually, you copy > paste the lines yourself, it is not described on the page, shame.

[cold basin]

yeah

pretty dumb

but this boatsailinggear line doesnt even exist in my dx12user

[unreal badge]

that's normal, it has a hidden default value. you can just add it

[cold basin]

ok i just added it to the bottom like that

hope works

sad that 2x is cap

wanted to be zoomin around the watah

https://tenor.com/view/cars-wrc-rally-rally-driving-rally-car-gif-23550463

aww hell yeah it works

we boutta do all caches with this one

that and kill all command when i see drowners i cannot be fucked to waste my time on that

[cold basin]

WHY TF IS THERE A LVL 48 ARCHGRIFFIN IN SKELLIGE

bro im level 30

wym

like hello

ok somehow he wasnt even that strong

[cold basin]

almost done

[proud cloud]

youre crazy lol

i only do them if theyre in my way to someplace

[cold basin]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[stark anvil]

Almost certainly what they intended lol

[cold basin]

alright im ready for the psych ward now

https://tenor.com/view/goofys-trial-murder-ill-do-it-again-gif-15434208

[proud cloud]

imagine if they put waterproof candles in each location

[cold basin]

[proud cloud]

at least you get a lot of money from them

those grandmaster upgrades are so expensive in blood and wine

[cold basin]

i have like a million items now as you can tell by the carry weight

[cold basin]

shieet, good to know

[proud cloud]

is this your first playthrough?

[cold basin]

yesnt

i have started one playthrough in 2023 where i put like a hundred hours in

but i didnt even get to skellige there kek

shit was interrupted cause i got a autoimmune disease and couldnt play for 2 months atleast

also couldnt really remember much of it after i was okay

[unreal badge]

for the map. If you highlight for example the greyed-out smuggler caches in the legend and press the left trigger (the one that makes Geralt block with his sword) you can activate and deactivate stuff showing on the map. There are 2 symbols per category, so for 100 % it might help to simply deactivate the greyed-out POIs you already cleared.

[cold basin]

wait wat

bruh

i did not know that

i was always thinking i want to have some custom filter

but there wasnt any mods for it

[unreal badge]

I only found out because it was on a mod's description.

[cold basin]

guess thats why

[unreal badge]

you can set to ALL and then disable what doesn't interest you

[cold basin]

bruhhhhh

ive been playing so long without knowing that

[unreal badge]

it was True Exploration mod, he even writes that most people do not know this feature of the map 😄

[cold basin]

why couldnt they add a tooltip like all the other controls at the bottom

is there anything you do with the 30000 mutagens that you acquire throughout the game?

i have a ton but they are also worthless to sell kek

no spoilers pls just yes or nah

xd

[rugged nest]

You can use them but you dont need a million

If u wanna know how lmk

[cold basin]

lol

xd

[rose whale]

Looking for a mod which enhances the bad motion blur of the game. Any suggestions?

[quiet sandal]

Nada

Jon wanted to rework it

[cold basin]

anyone have a clue why this one wont pop for me? been running around with ursine gear for like a while now, got both swords and full armor

[rare scroll]

the crossbow is probably the one missing

[cold basin]

oh bruh theres witcher set crossbows

i did not know

[proper valve]

literally spent like an hour doing all of those skellige water points so I could pay the runewright scammer

[rose whale]

Oh that would be great

[abstract tulip]

At least you get tons of money selling all that shit to traders

[abstract tulip]

Yup, this is why I do it too

[cold basin]

yeah i made like 42k

[abstract tulip]

The runewright will take them all and some

Greedy bastard

[cold basin]

duuuude look how the specular highlights get cooked here when switching from 4.5 to older DLSS

[foggy gate]

ZAMN

[cold basin]

[quiet sandal]

PBR on / PBR off

[abstract tulip]

Using preset M or L disables RR in games that support it, right?

[cold basin]

i think its the other way round

if a game has RR it will be dlss 4.0 because it wasnt updated yet

havent experimented with it yet though, just based on what ive heard from others

[quiet sandal]

Activating RR overrides whatever presets you have selected for SR

[split wigeon]

RR = (its own) SR + Denoising so doesn't matter whatever is set for SR, RR takes over

[abstract tulip]

[rose whale]

It will fallback and use upscaling that RR has built in. Preset A-C being CNN and D/E being transformer

[tall merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PddTS4jfOaA

[cold basin]

bro is hella yapping

[tall merlin]

skip in a bit

[cold basin]

also i really dont get using perf mode at 1440p ngl

[tall merlin]

i immediately skipped in

[cold basin]

yeah haha

i did too

[tall merlin]

yea i agree but the difference is pretty crazy still

[cold basin]

yeah

[tall merlin]

after i updated nvpi and forced M that way and opted into beta (?) i'm not having even 5% of that noise i was having before

it looks really nice, minimal artifacting

performance hit is noticeable now though even with M

[cold basin]

hm what

[tall merlin]

idk, the way i forced it day 1 was with nvpi but it was giving me insane noise in everything. day goes by and i updated nvpi for dlss 4.5 and also opted into the beta features on nvidia app and i tested the same spot and it was completely gone and im yet to see noise remotely comparable. it wasnt dlsstweaks because i uninstalled that completely to test and this is all thats changed

regardless it actually looks like it should now

its really noticeably better

i wont be able to go back to K

that video u sent was insane, of all the specular highlights

[cold basin]

Getting robbed of highlights we never knew existed

[tall merlin]

literally

[cold basin]

fellas

should i start Hearts of Stone now? Im lvl 30 and currently active main quests is isle of mists where i recruited all possible allies but i havent travelled to said isle

i know that this is like a breaking point for many quests to fail so i thought this might be a good time to start that dlc

ofc no spoilers Please

[dim wyvern]

Pretty much in the same spot as you, although I haven't finished recruiting everyone, felt like a good time to start HoS.

[cold basin]

yeah ive done like everything already in preperation kinda

completed all quests that can potentially fail etc

[dim wyvern]

In terms of the flow of the story I reckon it would have been better placed earlier in the story, but it is an expansion so I get why it is more of a late game/post-game thing.

Doesn't really feel like there is a good time given the urgency of the main quest story. I guess you could say the same for most side quests and stuff though.

[cold basin]

yeah that urgency of main quest is the only thing

but whatever atleast i can enjoy the rest of the main game story without any interruptions after that

since BW youre supposed to do after the story

from what ive read

[dim wyvern]

I guess, Geralt doesn't know he is about to start an expansion worth of stuff, from his perspective it is just another contract.

[cold basin]

i cant really read much on that since im giga careful to avoid spoilers

[dim wyvern]

Same

[cold basin]

yeah i think ill just do HoS now fuck it

[dim wyvern]

I, of course also decided now was a good time to start a new playthrough of Cyberpunk

But you have convinced me, I'm jumping back in for HoS too

[cold basin]

[rugged nest]

I personally would finish vanilla first

And then DLC

[abstract tulip]

I prefer to do it before the isle of mist

HoS is basically like a big side quest while Blood and Wine serves as an epilogue and must be played last

[cold basin]

yeah

also it fits tbh

because like

even tho main quest is technically urgent

||ciri is technically safe and will continue to be until she is "rescued" from that island||

atleast as far as i understand

[cold basin]

Bro that fucking ||toad|| is crazy

Homie beating my ass on deathmarch fr

Didn’t know I’m playing Elden ring over here

[abstract tulip]

use superior golden oriole and it's a breeze

https://tenor.com/view/gwent-gwentcard-monsters-archespore-gif-13941931

also effective against these in B&W

[cold basin]

I am

But like

Bro 2 shots me

Basically playing no hit run

And like almost all attacks stun me

Finally bruh

Took like 30mins atleast

[rare scroll]

bro doesnt know whats coming next

[cold basin]

[unreal badge]

Ya, you can play HoS during or after basegame. Some of its enemy types and bosses are kinda wild, I think it was a goal for both DLCs to offer more "true" boss fights/challenges. Luckily, there are still counters to everything. Currently in a HoS only run, I spent so much time hunting down the Oriole potion before finally feeling confident enough to start the ||toad|| fight.

The funny bit is, I collected viper armor before as well, from Immersive Gear Rewards (find it early) + More Witcher Set Bonuses (change its properties) mod. And it basically seemed to ||make me immune to poison anyhow, so Oriole never triggered, bahaha. Still, it took a while to beat toady.||

[rose whale]

Preset M

[fleet flume]

mais pour quoi tu joues en allemand le débile

c'est pas parce que t'es alsacien que MOSIEUR HOMER n'est ps français

@steady viper dit kekchose ptin

[rugged nest]

[rose whale]

Parce que je ne suis pas encore à Toussaint. Je respecte le lore

[rose whale]

He just said he hates his samsung tv in french

Finally

No more coping

[rugged nest]

He clearly didn’t but we’ll go with that as cannon

[fleet flume]

taré

[steady viper]

Putain de casque à pointe…

[ancient oar]

mdr fdp

[slate forge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/11711
New lighting mod dropped for those interested

[stark anvil]

we love SDR

[prisma bramble]

howmany lighting mods are there

the mod links to another mod

which links to another lighting mod

[stark anvil]

a lot

[weary socket]

and all of them seem to have somewhat raised blacks 🙁

[stark anvil]

a lot of them probably use some nasty values for the tonemapping

[weary socket]

while in the meantime it just works™ with RenoDX

[cold basin]

Casual nuke exploding behind that mountain

[cold basin]

What is this? Benis?

[weary socket]

no, just Reno

[cold basin]

Oh xD

[weary socket]

I ended up just using vanilla and staying away from any lighting mods, none of them look right with HDR imo

[cold basin]

Ah good to know

I was tempted bunch of times to try them but yeah

Prolly all look ass cause they’re not made for actual hdr

[stark anvil]

When I’ve tried them I don’t feel like they look better or worse cause of HDR. Maybe less sat correction is desirable with lighting mods but that’s about it.

If they’re designed with clipping as an important part of the look I mean…yeah I guess that’s just not gonna translate.

I think most of them should work well since the bloom rework

[tall merlin]

the old benis looked good but took the style of the games lighting completely out of the game so i stopped using it after a few months and went back to vanilla and ive stayed there

idk why people say its an eyesore. it does lack in a lot of areas but it does what it sets out to do pretty effectively id say

vanilla that is

[cold basin]

hm?

just sdr vs reno?

or what you trying to show

[stark anvil]

just posting screenshots

just vanilla hdr vs reno lol

no shortage of that but I still enjoy seeing the improvement

[cold basin]

smh i got spoilered by dio for that fight by a video he posted smh

[stark anvil]

lol

[abstract tulip]

those beautiful, definitely not buggy RT reflections

[stark anvil]

oh lol

that's from the dyeable armor right?

[cold basin]

hmm crossbow aint dyable though

but yeah dyable armor seems aids

ive installed a few texture mods for all the witcher armors to fix this

this what i meant when i said getting spoiled

[stark anvil]

I thought the issue was dyeable stuff being reflected?

[cold basin]

could be i suppose

[stark anvil]

I'm not totally sure

[slate forge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/8890

worst named mod of all time, but should fix that issue. Just turns off AO checkerboarding. Has performance cost but shouldn't be noticeable if yo uare on a higher end PC

[cold basin]

it doesnt

it helps but still has a bunch of cases where these rt reflections are cooked

[slate forge]

Haven't seen a case as bad as that screen in years

[cold basin]

i mean

im using ray bleach

and you seen how bad it looks for me

you told me to swtich to non dyable armor

kek

[slate forge]

so it's that or a combo of that and the better reflections mod

that may be the cause for the armor but not the crossbow, I never get that blueish hue anymore

[cold basin]

ive not really had any more issues though since switching to non dyable armors

[slate forge]

If I had to guess the crossbow would be the AO checkerboarding

armor may be diff though for sure

[stark anvil]

Already using it

[proper valve]

go to Kaer Morhen, down in the forest near the lake and let me know if it's fully fixed

it's not

[slate forge]

I mean sure. I've just never had it happen in a way I have found super noticeable or bothersome in a very long time.
also I have pretty heavily tweaked RTX settings at this point so I can't even be sure what all could improve it just know that the AO checkerboarding is 90% of it

[prisma bramble]

Could someone be a babe and give me a recommened list of visual mods to use if i were to play again?

[slate forge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/9384

I think this is a good place to start. Visuals and Graphics section towards the bottom

There's also Improved RT Reflections and Shadows, Improved Shadows (they tweak seperate things), and turning off AO checkerboarding with a .ini.

[proper valve]

did my playthrough with this + PAL instead of BVL + a couple other ones I wanted to use and its indeed an OP list

[plush ember]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kQd0Bof-V-l3VIg-7yJG_4keQnRzuXsg35F1ZyCpceE/edit?tab=t.0

[tall merlin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/11590

interesting

[rugged nest]

Holy shit?

Does this work?

[tall merlin]

not sure how far along it is but it does seem to work to some degree

insane though

[rugged nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI-vGc6CNa0

Seems cool

[woven yacht]

how do I get rid of outdoor fog in TW3?

after I modded the game I can't understand why I notice this close range fog which is irritating

also sometimes I see this fog pretty much everywhere

and sometimes I load the save and it's nowhere to be found

and I also notice if I go to a place with fog then this fog kinda follows me for sometimes in other areas

[woven yacht]

if anyone interested I found a fix
https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/10382

[cold basin]

weird, i have the crossbow now, still not unlocking

bruh worked instantly with the griffin set

[night pond]

What was the general consensus with DLSS 4.5

I haven’t had time to test it

I’m at 3440x1440p

So it model M or L balanced better than K quality

Or is it overly sharp

Seeing a lot of discourse on it online and it seems to differ game by game

[night yarrow]

M is the overall best

make sure you disable all of the sharpening methods

@cold basin you were right bro, L has more artifacts (not just in this game), i switch to M now

[cold basin]

[gusty silo]

No one size fits all answer, in my case I will start with M and if need be fall back to K

[ancient oar]

i’m using performance M on 3440x1440, been pretty happy with it over balanced K

[stark anvil]

Even with the new models I still don’t like anything below quality mode at 1440p

[ancient oar]

i honestly haven’t tried it with balanced or quality with M, is it worth it?

[stark anvil]

I’ll put up with balanced mode if I have to for performance, but I’d rather play at like 40 fps or something unless it’s a mouse and keyboard game

[stark anvil]

I think so

[ancient oar]

i’ve also seen some people prefer Dlss performance with L instead of M on 1440p

[gusty silo]

Just see for your own eyes

[unreal badge]

simplify your life, buy AMD, am got no troubles whatsoever with model selection

[stark anvil]

Their mode designators for the models have much more to do with total pixels at an assumed 4k

I think anyway

[gusty silo]

It's to keep people from crying online that preset M decimated their fps when they use it on quality or dlaa

The presets will always look better the more data you feed them, and I agree that 720p is too low for me

I will also agree that it's pretty crazy how acceptable things do look though at only 720p, (ultra perf 4k or perf 1440p)

Especially for those with weaker gpus, nothing wrong with playing like that anymore

[ancient oar]

i’m just testing it in W3, i’m on a 4090

balanced preset K 130 fps, performance M 140

[night yarrow]

i use M quality in everything now

[night yarrow]

true, especially considering the new presets have worse AA

id imagine the shimmering would be bad at 1440p with lower quality level

[woven yacht]

tbh after testing 20+ games it depends a lot from game engine and type of games

funny enough the best looking games with prest M and DLSS performance are UE games from my testing

[gusty silo]

4k or 1440p though

[night yarrow]

4K

but im going to buy a 1440p one

[gusty silo]

With 4k just slap it on perf and call it a day imo, unless you have a surplus of frame rate available still

I guess with the 4k120 tvs, you can get away with 4k qual easier

[night yarrow]

the new presets are really weak in terms of AA

[gusty silo]

4k performance is higher than 1440p quality

[night yarrow]

screen is also larger

with makes aliasing more noticeable

[gusty silo]

you can always sit further back then hehehe

[night yarrow]

also not everything is scaled by dlss

still prefer higher internal res personally

[gusty silo]

Regardless, 4k performance at 1080p is higher quality than 1440p quality at only 960p

And surely people don't need to use dlaa on 1440p

[night yarrow]

with the new presets

dlaa is completely useles

[gusty silo]

Even at K dlaa was wasteful

My next monitor will hopefully be an ultrawide 4k, even a 5090 will struggle at that res though

[night yarrow]

i liked preset F dlaa

M quality is only like 10% faster than F dlaa

[gusty silo]

Id take K quality over F DLAA anyway, but with M now you just gotta find the framerate somewhere

[night yarrow]

i run my 5090 at above 3.2ghz daily

[gusty silo]

That's a +400 core?

You must have some very nice silicon lotto

[night yarrow]

+405 vs FE model

[gusty silo]

I've got +200, I could push a little more but def not 400, I don't want any instability if I can help

[night yarrow]

which model ?

[gusty silo]

Fe

Memory's maxed out

[night yarrow]

FE cant flash bios

[gusty silo]

+3000 I think? Whatever the unlocked max is

[night yarrow]

the FE bios can suck in some apps

like steel nomad

not sure if thats the case in games

[gusty silo]

+200/3000 worked for daily for I guess a year now?

[night yarrow]

ya +3000 is the max you can do with regular bios

+4000 is the limit for xoc bios

above 4000 requires certain gpu models

[gusty silo]

Doesn't happen often but I'll admit I pucker up a little bit if I see it hit 600w

[night yarrow]

the new models pull more power

preset L DLAA i get 900w in some games