The Witcher 3

[cold basin]

-# /s

i personally dont run 100% sat correction though, i prefer 66-80

works!

[stark anvil]

now I need to know if it fixes that stupid candle

[cold basin]

it does (at 100 hue correction)

at 0 they pink

actually

at 90 blowout they look good too

@stark anvil

very happy

at 90 they hue correction only has a slight impact

[stark anvil]

Yeah it would be basically identical. So at 80-85 how is it?

Oh right, video lmao

Can’t really tell on my phone

[cold basin]

basically anything except 90 you will need hue correction to not get pink candles

[stark anvil]

Lmao, unfortunate

Well, at the very least it will grief a little less of the game

[cold basin]

id say overall it looks better though

and more consistent

id say until 87 blow out you can get away with no hue correction

below that id use hue

[stark anvil]

Assuming nothing else is broken, this is probably the build I’ll post to nexus. Gotta make sure I didn’t mess up SDR again though.

[cold basin]

SDR as in setting preset to vanilla or as in setting tonemap to SDR in HDR

[stark anvil]

As in playing the game in SDR lol

[cold basin]

Why would one do that

With reno installed

[stark anvil]

SDR had plenty of room for improvement lol

[cold basin]

i see

btw did you mess with bloom? @stark anvil

[cold basin]

i feel like the bloom sometimes isnt quite the right color

like too pale/blown out

[stark anvil]

kinda

doing per channel blowout this way means it runs before bloom

which tbf is just how the game worked unmodded

[cold basin]

i see

yeah i think im kinda settled for now at 0 hue correction and 84 per channel blowout

[stark anvil]

when shortfuse figures out the cbuffer caching stuff, I can fix this

and everything can be perfect, flawless, except for that one candle

[cold basin]

that way you only get like verrryy slight pink in the worst possible scenario

without making the normal situations too yellow

thats a tradeoff im willing to make

[night yarrow]

time to mod the candle texture

no other way

I end up with 88 per channel blowout

[clever cape]

Isn't there some mods already covering this ? Like "NewFX" or "NextgenFX" ? I know it touches fires, smoke, torches and some other stuff (fog, parallax for some surfaces, foam, some whales LOD problems,etc...). I think it touches on candles already, but I'll check it out.

Hee... maybe not actually. My bad.

[night yarrow]

lol this comparison is exactly like "how can you tell its bright when its not blown out to white"

i bet "normal" people would prefer vanilla

[night yarrow]

nah a lot of reno mods also fix the sdr

[plush ember]

True

[cold basin]

Never knew, I don’t play sdr

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[stark anvil]

so has anybody running this encountered any issues yet?

[stark anvil]

seems good to me, will just send it and see if anybody reports anything

v3.1.0

• restructure some code, allowing for a massive SDR revamp
• unlock native WCG
• fix photo mode shader (disabled in-game color grading/vignette though)
• per channel blowout slider now works dynamically based on the peak from the vanilla tonemapping, resulting in more artistically consistent behavior
• updated presets accordingly

for people on the last test build, changes are updated presets and some tweaked SDR things

[cold basin]

i havent

[kind crescent]

I'm not the guy to see little issues like pink candles but thank you for your work it looks great.

Holy shit though coming back to this game after 8 years everything about character and camera movement feels terrible

[stark anvil]

honestly the amount of time spent on that was unhinged behavior

[stark anvil]

okay time for nexus

[stark anvil]

apparently there are weather conditions in the swamp where vanilla tonemapping without bloom can hit 690 nits with a paper white of 203. SDR clipping is pretty crazy here.

also has me questioning if modifying this per channel blowout slider by vanilla peak is worthwhile, when the game was also designed with this much clipping....

maybe I could cook up some sort of hue clip thing that only really kicks in when tonemap peak is silly

[kind crescent]

Maybe unhinged but still admirable. There are other issues in games that annoy me and I wish they had awesome modders fixing them

[proper valve]

Get scaar, improves movement. Blood and steel also

[stark anvil]

hmmmmm maybe actually inverting this behavior is the move.

no

nvm there's nothing I can do about this that I'll be happy with

simply wish the game wasn't designed around so much garbage

[cold basin]

Lets hope Witcher 4 aint gonna be this cooked

-# (we will get a UE5 stutterfest instead)

[heady dune]

https://modspot.dev/u/aeltoth/tw3-smart-camera

[kind crescent]

Wouldn't it be weird having the camera move itself while exploring? Do any other RPGs do that?

I just want it to not feel dookie when I move the stick something about the acceleration is whack

[stark anvil]

next gen version has a good bit of input lag if you don't cap the framerate

[kind crescent]

I got fps capped with display commander

[stark anvil]

it's crazy how much this game pushes into bt2020

yellow is dci-p3, blue is bt2020

[cold basin]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-wtf-gif-25758871

ive never noticed that

[tribal sable]

from what

[stark anvil]

not really sure tbh

my guess is just tonemapping with weird parameters

[tribal sable]

sounds like an error

you can't get colors outside of bt709 without leaving bt709

[stark anvil]

hmmmmm idk what it would be then

[tribal sable]

well forcing hue shifting will add some

[stark anvil]

I know that visually comparing to the base game by unloading all shaders, it doesn't visually look like an error I made

you can see the gamut unclamp

[tribal sable]

did they boost saturation by lerping from y

[stark anvil]

possibly. I didn't spend much time understanding what was happening in these permutations that pop up after grading from luts

most common one

So yeah I guess that's what it looks like

but I truthfully hardly know what I'm looking at

[tribal sable]

ya taking bt709 luminance and lerping

[cold basin]

would there be any point in clamping it back to 709 or sumn like that?

or is it fine that it pushes that hard into bt2020

[night yarrow]

@stark anvil im getting nans when increasing saturation or highlight saturation

[cold basin]

dont increase them then

[night yarrow]

but i want

to counter per channel blowout

[cold basin]

how much blowout you running?

[dim wyvern]

Anyone got some locked in Cozy RTX Fire settings they would recommend? Currently playing with No Artificial Player Light and all RT settings on max. Keep fidling with the settings every time I walk in a room and just want to lock something in now

[proper valve]

look at that glorious beard. Such a shame they mssed up the RT implementation, on certain lighting scenarios on edge cases it can turn almost black lmao

what LM are you using?

[plush ember]

ALM 1.8

[night yarrow]

88

[cold basin]

bruh

why so much

85 is fine

with some hue correction

dont run 0 hue correction

it doesnt work

[night yarrow]

no i run 0

[cold basin]

kek

my condolences

[night yarrow]

not my issue

Jon set it to 0 by default

and i thought its good

[cold basin]

bruv

the entire last week of my testing with jon was about hue correction basically

[night yarrow]

what are your settings ?

[cold basin]

im still experimenting with the new build, rn this

[night yarrow]

im pretty ok with 88 + highlight saturation 60 tbh

but it introduces nans

[cold basin]

u sure you running the latest build ?

i can push to 100 highlight sat no issue

[plush ember]

default no ?

[night yarrow]

try toussaint

[proper valve]

Don't you find it super bright in caves etc? I love that LM but that's what's making me want to change back to BVL or Promo :/

[night yarrow]

8:00 PM

[cold basin]

im not anywhere near that sadly, but yeah i know it can be very different there

[cold basin]

why is bro running Preset E

already throwing

[night yarrow]

even with 51

dont like preset k

in any games

🤷‍♂️

except the callisto protocol

[cold basin]

my condolences

[night yarrow]

shimmering mess without preset k

[cold basin]

once again

[proper valve]

I found 0 issues with preset K on W3

[cold basin]

same, not had any fog issues or anything

unlike other games

[night yarrow]

its not just fogs

[proper valve]

cause it's not real volumetric I think 😄 cause any game with real vol fog it's cooked

[cold basin]

maybe yeah

[night yarrow]

preset k tends to over scale things

like adding details that shouldnt exist

[night yarrow]

literally all transparencies

in a lot of ue5 slop preset k also introduces serious shimmering on foliage

[plush ember]

yeah, still tweaking

[night yarrow]

I only use preset k when preset e looks bad

like tlou2 and the callisto protocol

[plush ember]

F preset ?

[night yarrow]

i use dlaa with preset f

otherwise its too blurry

[plush ember]

You are using dlss quality ?

[night yarrow]

depends on the game

drop to balanced with PT and RR games

in some games i use 77%

i want to my fps to be above 120 90% of the time

[cold basin]

do you use FG in witcher btw

[night yarrow]

ya

3.8.1

since the lastest doesnt work properly

[cold basin]

im not even sure which version im using

whats not working with tlatest

[night yarrow]

because of the ancient streamlines

[cold basin]

yeh

[night yarrow]

flip metering and mfg

[cold basin]

so 5090 shid

[night yarrow]

no flip metering is a driver feature

all fg dlls above 3.8.1 use it

[cold basin]

so its on 40 series too

?

[night yarrow]

ya

check the frametime graph

if it looks weird

[cold basin]

lol i thoght its some shit they added on 50 series

[night yarrow]

its flip metering turned on

ya

its not

[cold basin]

sounded like it during the presentation

[night yarrow]

it is added on 50 series (driver)

nvidia try to gaslight us

[cold basin]

real

[night yarrow]

they actually never said its a 50 series "exclusive"

they just said its a new feature

lol

[cold basin]

looks like im using latest actually

[night yarrow]

ya

[cold basin]

it works but only with the driver cap

[night yarrow]

but it behaves like the old model

so id assume it falls back to the old one

[cold basin]

like DC pace native frames or RTSS does have insane stutter

[night yarrow]

use 3.8.1 as a safe method

[cold basin]

driver cap works really well

[night yarrow]

with fg driver cap is the same as the reflex one

why shouldnt it lol

[cold basin]

yes but it seems to do something different

[night yarrow]

[cold basin]

DC reflex cap stutters

its ass for w3

maybe its from forcing new fg

[night yarrow]

i use 3.8.1

[cold basin]

i dont know

[night yarrow]

force driver vsync

[cold basin]

but driver cap is flawless so i dont care xd

[night yarrow]

and its working properly

[cold basin]

i have that too, globally

[night yarrow]

ya maybe thats it

the new fg isnt working as intended in tw3

pretty sure

[cold basin]

like i said

it does with driver cap

[night yarrow]

no idea then

game does run like shit when uncap though

[cold basin]

that too xd

[night yarrow]

vysnc is already fixing that for me

no need for extra cap

[cold basin]

why you sitting at 138 fps then

wouldnt vsync cap you at 144

[night yarrow]

reflex auto cap

bro doesnt even know that

[cold basin]

i know but im not sure what you meant by vsync is fixing shit

[night yarrow]

vsync + reflex is a limiter ?

thats what i mean

[cold basin]

ah

[night yarrow]

no need to manually add a 138fps cap

[cold basin]

yeh nvm

[proper valve]

it's a shame cause. I tried various things like just turning off one specific cameralights, even all of them etc. There doesn't seem to be a good happy medium : [

[stark anvil]

I’ll see if I can figure it out

[cold basin]

lmao just arrived in skellige for the first time

first thing i see

but apparently thats in sdr too so not reno fault

[stark anvil]

Yeah some weather states have a pink sun. Honestly love the look

[cold basin]

yeah wasnt expecting that, first thought was AWW fuck, ill have to bully Jon again to fix

skellige is quite beautiful so far

The music also peak

[stark anvil]

Skellige was my fav on my first playthrough. On subsequent playthroughs I usually fall off somewhere around arriving to Skellige lol

[cold basin]

Kek

Lol why is there a vendor where you can get a bunch of fast travel points on skellige unlocked

Or is that some mod I have

[stark anvil]

it's because their saturation code is pushing up into or beyond ap1. When you increase sat any further it's invalid lol

let me see what I can do that will look best

[cold basin]

i guess this is a toussaint issue

Im running around with the settgins polly uses

i dont have any nans yet

[proper valve]

Same

In Skellige

It looks incredi

Incredible

[stark anvil]

you get nans at saturation 51 in the room at kaer morhen in the start of the game

this room is such a good test scene for basically everything I've had to do lol

[cold basin]

damn oge

[stark anvil]

jesus I made a silly mistake

update soon

[cold basin]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-cute-please-gif-15474516873081150495

[stark anvil]

mistake will be pretty obvious ```cpp
float3 CustomTonemap(float3 color) {

if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 1.f) {
return saturate(color);
}

float3 outputColor = color;
outputColor = PreTonemapSliders(outputColor);

if (LAST_IS_HDR) {
outputColor = HDRDisplayMap(outputColor, RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE);
}
else {
outputColor = SDRDisplayMap(outputColor, RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE);
}
outputColor = HDRDisplayMap(outputColor, RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE);
outputColor = PostTonemapSliders(outputColor);
return outputColor;
}```

[cold basin]

no clue

[stark anvil]

displaymapping twice

accidentally left the original line there when adding the SDR stuff

[cold basin]

at least its an easy fix

[stark anvil]

I thought max channel was just making things not as bright as expected

[cold basin]

sooo new build will be brighter ?

[stark anvil]

yes

a good bit really lol

[cold basin]

wait how long has it been like that

[stark anvil]

since 3.0

wait no

3.1 and whatever test build I added the better SDR support to

[cold basin]

ah ok

[stark anvil]

hmmm I haven't had to fix color issues like this before. Just clamping to bt2020 gives a good bit of range without impacting anything of substance, but surely hard clamping isn't the technical best choice

[cold basin]

big brain musa or shortfuse can probably give gud advice

[stark anvil]

gonna ping @tribal sable since he saw the shader causing this already. If I touch the saturation slider at all in some parts of the game, it pretty much instantly creates nans. What would be the best solution for dealing with this? I feel like clamping to bt2020 before hand would be fine enough in practice, but it doesn't sound like the "best" solution.

[night yarrow]

dio will get his 3000 nits yellow

finally

[stark anvil]

real and true

[stark anvil]

v3.1.1

• fix double tonemapping bug introduced in 3.1.0
• workaround for some invalid colors when adjusting saturation/highlight saturation

for now I just clamped to bt2020 before saturation sliders

you can still get nans if you crank it

[tribal sable]

Clamp to ap1

Actually clamp to bt2020

You have to be within bt2020 before display mapping

You can clamp to bt2020 in all those saturation shaders I guess

[stark anvil]

I do gamut compression before display mapping

[tribal sable]

Idk how well that works

[stark anvil]

I did some testing with it on dishonored, it works well, though I compress down in bt709, then with it compressed I have to clamp to bt709

otherwise there are some erroneous out of gamut pixels

[stark anvil]

ran some saturation code before display mapping to deep fry it so I could see any issues in saturation, and it kinda just works

[tribal sable]

Might want to clip colors outside ap1 first

[stark anvil]

will do

well, I guess now I'm clamping to bt2020 before it anyway

[cold basin]

[proper valve]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understand-nothing-gif-18894747

[stark anvil]

@tribal sable sorry to ping again, do you know what numbers would be the limit in oklab before it's just nans? Kinda want to stop the math from creating them entirely.

[tribal sable]

Limiting saturation increase in perceptual is what ShortFuse has been trying to figure out

[stark anvil]

RIP

oh well, bt2020 clamp is good enough I hope.

[cold basin]

[stark anvil]

wonder how possible it would be to replace their sat by luminance with a perceptual space one

or if it's even worth it

I know sat by luminance is kinda cursed

not sure if it's the kind of thing you could replace without it just looking wildly different

[abstract tulip]

https://youtu.be/NknjE2SBPxw?si=NEL0S2NfDJp40AmV

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-zen-focus-walkman-earbuds-gif-12972884

[cold basin]

Yep that one

[stark anvil]

the GOAT track

[cold basin]

Hope I’ll like toussaint as well

[abstract tulip]

I love how Skellige looks and sounds but boy the traversal is ass

[cold basin]

Really enjoying this game

[abstract tulip]

Toussaint is my favorite region in the game

[stark anvil]

renodx has completely altered my opinion on toussaint aesthetically tbh

[cold basin]

[cold basin]

Positively I hope

[stark anvil]

yes

[cold basin]

[stark anvil]

vanilla always felt weirdly compromised

I also played it in SDR of course, 2015 and all that

or 2016, whenver that dlc came out

[abstract tulip]

RT really shines there too imo

[stark anvil]

it had problems

[abstract tulip]

especially bounce lighting and color transfer because of the colorful environments

[proper valve]

have you tried filterless toussaint?

[stark anvil]

I think I did back in the day. Not a fan

[proper valve]

the latest update tho?

dont know when you did

[stark anvil]

Nah

Technically renodx can be filterless toussaint as well, just drop the color grading slider

[proper valve]

It's not just that from the looks of it, read the changelog there's a lot more to it: https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/6205?tab=description

I'm testing it out atm

[clever cape]

I've seen that mod going around and I'm not a big fan. The original olive tinting might be going overboard, but having actually spent time in Provence during summer, i think the blue hues of filteress toussaint really doesn't get the hot and dry vibe of the actual place. The moded version feels a lot colder and breaks my immersion.

[stark anvil]

“ Increases brightness range from its capped limit;”

Unhinged

I feel like that’s gotta mean something else

Unless the LUT has some baked in clipping or something

[proper valve]

it's also from the previous version

[cold basin]

Hmm I can’t decide if I like it more or not. Certainly a big change to the original

[proper valve]

in the posts he said he fixed that as it was indeed clipping on the initial versions, he just didnt mention in the changelog and kept the description

[proper valve]

that's what I'm feeling

trees and grass etc looks much more lush

imo, water as well

[clever cape]

That's actually the problem. It gets very dry in summer there. The mod seems to rehydrate everything.

[proper valve]

it does feel more refined, for sure, better nights / dark, sky looks better also. Though the olive filter is kinda nice, gonna switch back and forth

I think the best thing this mod does is LOD and distance visibility

that is unequivocally better

[clever cape]

That indeed can't hurt !

[proper valve]

this is from a very old version but just focus on the horizon. difference is insane

[clever cape]

I see what you mean. Maybe there would a nice middle ground though. Maybe not losing the spirit of original grading but toning it down where it's the most overkill.

And indeed, get back distant details in process.

[stark anvil]

I like the olive color, fits the region

But the mod does look good

[clever cape]

Same. But I have to admit background details are quite nice in the mod.

French as well by the way ?

[tall merlin]

witcher reno is looking really great, thank you again @stark anvil i cant donate rn but when i can i absolutely will

you could've left it as it was on initial release and it still wouldve been good enough so thank you again

insanely nice way to experience this game for the first time

ill be sure to dono

[stark anvil]

Super not necessary but much appreciated

[tall merlin]

u deserve it fr

[split wigeon]

Dang it's like going from Borderlands to Wukong lmao

[stark anvil]

Vanilla HDR vs RenoDX

[heady dune]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/11603

[stark anvil]

Vanilla SDR in HDR container | RenoDX SDR in HDR container

[heady dune]

Test it!

[stark anvil]

video looks good, downloading now

[heady dune]

I made it like this quickly; I'm too tired to prepare something better.

[proper valve]

incredible man

could never imagine playing this without your hard work Jon!

Filterless Toussaint 2.0 is a winner for me IMHO. After doing some A/B it's just superior in every way.

btw I think some here might be interested, this #486202559951011870 message is the best grass mod I've ever used, this guy worked on it for a long time and released it last week. Just sad it was released after I'm like 80% on my playthrough. Keeps the same flora diversity etc not just a blanket replacement

[stark anvil]

Link doesn’t work if you aren’t in the discord

[proper valve]

Didn’t want to share the file here, would be unethical. It doesn’t ask to join with a message link?

[stark anvil]

No

Not on nexus?

[plush ember]

is the mod ready ?

[stark anvil]

becoming a 100 nit paper white convert

just to show how big of a deal saturation correction is in some scenes

[cold basin]

i cant run 100 paperwhite outside

looks so weird how dark everything is lit

and then i look up at a 2500 nit sun

the discrepancy between that feels completely unrealistic

[fleet flume]

Mimic real life dynamic range

5000 nits apl slop in front of you vs 3 billion nits sun

[cold basin]

plug walk

[proper valve]

for anyone interested in the grass mod who arent in that server. covers every single region. Credit to maidenfan724

[proper valve]

he feels like it's not 100% done but I've tested it for hours in a shit ton of regions and it's imo perfect lol.

[proper valve]

roach really is special

[cold basin]

Roach built different like that

[tall merlin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/11603?tab=posts&BH=0

looks cool

idk why he put RT, it has nothing to do with ray tracing

oh i see someone else sent it lmao

[proper valve]

Agreed with the naming. Should be more like True Refractive Rain or something like that

a lot of noobs might think you need RT

[tall merlin]

indeed

[proper valve]

I did at first but didnt care cause I use RT anyways

[tall merlin]

cool idea, though

might have to install if it works w reno, he mentions a custom shader pipeline in the desc. i havent been on to test it though

[proper valve]

I installed it but havent tested yet

[clever cape]

Doesn't look like summer Provence anymore. Looks like the Alps in spring. Pretty close geographically, but wildly different climate wise. You lose the Mediterranean feel.

[tall merlin]

getting nans at recommended settings

specifically noticed it talking to the baron

reno recommended settings vs sdr in hdr which doesnt have them

noticed it primarily on the baron bc his whole top is now black basically, but it is noticeable on geralt too, and probably elsewhere, just didnt catch it til now

i am using benis lighting mod, hd reworked textures, smooth camera motion, next gen better fx, improved rt and reflections

they happen with any settings it seems really

[stark anvil]

I just went through that scene in vanilla without issue. I’d guess the lighting mod uses some saturation parameters that aren’t playing nice with the unclamped gamut…

[stark anvil]

You’re using this build right?

[tall merlin]

yea, good catch, i was going to test without it. it is one of the more colourful variants. and yeah im using the latest one

this game is already so saturated it probably isnt even needed

[stark anvil]

Well dang, that’s unfortunate. I might have to add a toggle for this for compatibility

Their saturation code sucks. It’s become clear why the game has the kinds of sat issues it has lol

[tall merlin]

this game seems like a nightmare to mod at times

cant imagine all the hacky and strange shit they did

i might test with this https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/10322?tab=description

[stark anvil]

Frankly seems like a miracle the game came out looking as good as it does for the time

[tall merlin]

it happens without benis, just seemingly a whole lot less

maybe next gen better fx

not sure how but i can try without

[proper valve]

Best LM for this game IMO

And the most consistent etc

2.0 is coming out soon as well

[tall merlin]

saw that in the comments, exciting

gonna have to test it

[stark anvil]

Huh, maybe I just missed it then

I’ll see what I can do

[proper valve]

Highly doubt

[proper valve]

Literally in a week or two it looks like. Shame Im already almost finished lol

[tall merlin]

how long has it taken u to almost be done??

i have a feeling this is gonna take me like 300 hours to finish minimum, adhd makes it so tough to stick to things like this but i am actually really enjoying it so i dont see myself stopping

[proper valve]

I played very slowly

And still wont be able to see any of PAL 2.0. Ive got like 200 something hours

You could always never run with roach, just trot 100% of the time xD

[proper valve]

Join his discord to see actual progress screenshots

[tall merlin]

link?

is it in the desc/

ah i see ty

[dim wyvern]

This certainly makes the rain more immersive.

[tall merlin]

oh wow

[dim wyvern]

Switched back to Realistic Rain for comparison and it feels incredibly flat/hollow

[stark anvil]

The author shared the mod here btw

[dim wyvern]

Excellent work man, really love it so far

[tall merlin]

the lighting in vanilla witcher 3 is sometimes so beautiful compared to the lighting mods ive seen with how pink it can get, but compared to benis at other times its lacking so much atmosphere

if only i had the time to make my own lighting mod, so hard to pick

in the bog benis looks way nicer than vanilla

[tall merlin]

just tested this and the difference is wild

[stark anvil]

I honestly really like the vanilla weather with sat correction

Most lighting mods seem to miss the point of some vanilla weather choices

Not a problem if you want to throw it all out though

[abstract tulip]

I've tried many LMs in TW3 yet I always go back to vanilla

I don't even bother trying them out anymore

[stark anvil]

Better vanilla isn’t too bad though

[tall merlin]

the vanilla weather is really great and i hadnt even really played without a lighting mod yet so its really refreshing to see, but there are just some moments where it feels too bright and colourful

i was testing where the crones are in the bog and benis looked way more atmospheric and gritty in a good way but then at keira metz place the vanilla lighting was much nicer

probably will settle on vanilla depending on how i like the promotional atmosphere one

its just insane how much better reno makes the game look

vanilla is very nice

[tall merlin]

better vanilla looks nice

[stark anvil]

the nan's should be something I can fix, I just need to figure out exactly why they're happening (it's something I'm doing wrong)

[stark anvil]

for some reason gamut compression is just not handling the most extreme colors smoothly. Maybe it's an encoding thing, idk

in any case, I can just tonemap in bt2020 and clamp the colors to bt2020

I'm gonna add this gamut unclamping as an option, if only because I want preset off to be able to clamp it back down

also gonna be a new slider since it might actually make a lot of sense to cut their saturation back a bit...

[stark anvil]

Vanilla vs RenoDX

need to do a little more testing to make sure I didn't screw up anything in the process but here

• add gamut unclamp option
• rename color grading to LUT grading again
• add color grading slider for their post-LUT grading
• fix invalid colors hopefully for real this time

[tribal sable]

its just lerping to y so its prob not gonna work super well

clamp to ap1 before doing any gamut compression

[stark anvil]

yeah I did that, didn't clean it up

[stark anvil]

v3.2.0

• add gamut unclamp option
• rename color grading to LUT grading again
• add color grading slider for their post-LUT grading
• fix invalid colors hopefully for real this time
  From previous test build, fixed the renodx color grading sliders from clamping with vanilla gamut selected

[cold basin]

so gamut is clamped by default now ?

[stark anvil]

It was in the last build two builds, I just made it an option largely for the sake of preset off and comparison

[night yarrow]

renodx looks WASHED OUT

colors are lifeless

[smoky abyss]

Looks perfect - thanks for the hdr mod. I strongly recommend this mod if you want E3 2014 lighting and feeling:

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/2133?tab=posts

[stark anvil]

Oh I misread this when I answered before. It’s unclamped by default (I haven’t seen a situation where it didn’t look more natural).

[tall merlin]

the nans seem fixed entirely btw

tyvm

[stark anvil]

Awesome

No other issues seen so far right?

[tall merlin]

everything seems pretty perfect, candles stopped looking so deepfried for me too, not sure what change it was or if its just certain candles

but in the areas i have been recently, they actually look correct

enough for me to stop and look and be like oh wow

[stark anvil]

It’s possible the unlocked gamut helps

[cold basin]

[stark anvil]

okay yeah this seems good, made it a release

[stark anvil]

I really didn't realize how much the colors in this game were getting griefed by their bad grading code causing so much hue clip

feel like I'll be able to recognize this in future games a bit more easily

[stark anvil]

hm, I don't think I've revisited the hdr boost default since switching to max channel display mapping. I might want to push that higher

maybe just for myself lol

25 might make more sense though

Vanilla vs RenoDX

I'm still kind of amazed at how much this game can shine with some adjustments

[cold basin]

what setting did you change here

[stark anvil]

Gamut clamp vanilla/wcg

[night yarrow]

im using 25 with highlight saturation 60

88 per channel blowout

[plush ember]

I think I found the perfect balance of mods, combining with proper HDR looks great

[cold basin]

what mods u running

[plush ember]

A lot

[cold basin]

also uh from you screenshots in the gallery

who tf is this? im doing a playthrough myself atm ive not met this person

[plush ember]

You are playing first time ?

[cold basin]

yes

ive done all the sidequests in velen

[plush ember]

Heart of stone dlc, can't miss

[cold basin]

and like 70% of them in novigrad

ohh DLC

nvm

i was assuming youre somewhere in velen or so yourself atm

based on your screenshots

[plush ember]

Nah using saves from nexusmods

[cold basin]

ohh i see

kk, was scared id had missed some stuff there for a second

thx

[gusty silo]

weird behavior.... i cant force fg 3x in the profile of witcher 3

also its not using flip metering

does show that its using 310.4.0 overrides

[cold basin]

Not weird

You can’t use MFG

Witcher 3 has ancient Streamline files

Can’t replace them with new ones either

DLSS transformer upscaling works

[gusty silo]

ugggggh

why cant i replace the streamlines :(

[unreal badge]

"perfect balance of mods" sounds unlikely, there's always new things to discover or try 🙂

[unreal badge]

Shani is great. Incase you don't vibe with Yen's attitude or Triss' art direction.

[rugged nest]

You don’t know ||Shani??!!||

[rugged nest]

Oops I was replying to this

[unreal badge]

don't spoil him, he's new. Step 1 was figuring out candles (for all of us, thx).

[rugged nest]

Welp that character is more from the books tho

In the game itself doesn’t have a huge role so likely if you don’t know it from the books you’ll be like whatever

[cold basin]

[stark anvil]

@plush ember I removed the image you submitted cause I didn't realize it was an HDR image that had the metadata stripped from it. Didn't look right.

[plush ember]

HDR Processing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ifQUf0JoMs

[stark anvil]

Is this seeming like it’ll be possible?

[unreal badge]

Among the many good and quite different Triss mods out there, I always come back to TW2 Triss after a while. One thing I could never decide on was what to do about her hair. Since yesterday she's wearing Iris' style from https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/9547 ; let's see how long that lasts. My problem is I really dislike her regular hair, and the DLC one is better but, eh, not really great either.

[plush ember]

try this
https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/3722?tab=files&file_id=52702

[plush ember]

trying to find this

[rare scroll]

this looks like book triss

[unreal badge]

looks fantastic in that shot, but I'd fear way too much clipping in game with most longer hairs. Depends on the outfit combo, but I can't even play cat armor Geralt without changing to a shorter hairstyle. For some reason I'm allergic to hair/collar clipping.

Reminds me most of Vivienne's hair?

[cold basin]

GYAT

I woulda romanced her with that hair

[plush ember]

Hair decided

[stark anvil]

building LOD too distracting

looks like a good hair option, though the color feels criminal lol

[plush ember]

Changing fov does that
There is a red option, that is too red

[stark anvil]

Unfortunate

[cold basin]

time to mod the mod

[quiet sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

never forget conslop causes this

[stark anvil]

you say that and yet I can see the same LOD in there lol

[quiet sandal]

This is running on 2013 hardware

Down-gen is running on 2023 hardware

We have Uber LOD mod for 1.31

[stark anvil]

playing around with bloom again...I may have found something that works a good bit better

it's also kind of arbitrary but it seems to be a good balance across zones

my god this might just be good enough

can I be free?

one moment, will be posting a build

[proper valve]

That color is perfect. In fact she’s perfectly book friendly there love it

[heady dune]

I use the latest version you sent in this short wet fight; it's perfect for me but I don't have such a good eye to determine it.

[stark anvil]

Test build

• bloom/sunshafts fixed?

@cold basin

it's looking so good 😭

I don't have more time to test right now though

[cold basin]

i can test in a bit

[stark anvil]

It’s a smidge extra bloomy in some situations, but by and large it seems pretty much bang on?

Sunset on oxenfurt bridge is the worst case so far

But it doesn’t look bad

(I’m sure someone will disagree with that lol, it’s a bit cooked)

[cold basin]

[quiet sandal]

Jon's Magnum Opus soonTM to be complete ?

Imagine how empty life will feel after

[tall merlin]

ended up on vanilla lighting with flare and contrast upped to make it a bit scarier. think its looking really great right now

[stark anvil]

Ill get to move on to other things, like metro 2033/last light luma mod I’ve been meaning to do for months

[tall merlin]

this game is legit terrifying sometimes, idk how they did it but some of the areas are genuinely creepy

big fan

[cold basin]

actually scrap that im too tired, i'll do when i wake up

[stark anvil]

Understandable

[stark anvil]

okay I've got a bit again, lemme get some comparisons

these will be vanilla HDR vs RenoDX with the updated method of handling bloom

might as well start with the worst result

a bit much in these situations, but bareable I think

now here's a situation where the old method did basically no sunshafts/bloom

also worth mentioning this is with HDR boost at 25

though it doesn't make that big of a difference

another situation where the old method was very weak

And another (also SDR for fun lol)

[tall merlin]

sdr looks so bad there

lmao

[tall merlin]

i think it looks much better, its not overwhelming, it adds a lot of atmosphere especially here

[stark anvil]

torch gets a bit cooked in toussaint

but it seems to interact with the bloom parameters mostly well now, meaning you can just turn bloom down some

[tall merlin]

nice

[stark anvil]

bloom in general without sunshafts

white orchard not looking as bland now

bonus SDR on this one

if this shot isn't showing what HDR is about idk what is lol

gonna sit with it and test some more before making it a release

Workin well in the swamp too

[night pond]

Jon you have cooked 🔥

[cold basin]

guess ill await the new build then

[stark anvil]

It’s the build I posted

[cold basin]

oh lol i interpreted this as you did some more changes or sumn

[stark anvil]

Nah

[cold basin]

@rugged nest yo sorry to bother, could you check your dms?

[cold basin]

peak

[rugged nest]

Hmmmm im not seeing any dm?

[cold basin]

huh

maybe its landed in dm requests or sumn

[proper valve]

#1411093186842988645 message

this ?

[stark anvil]

Yes

[quiet sandal]

Jon get ready to redo everything

[stark anvil]

I’d be surprised if they touch any of these shaders lol

Hopefully we can get updated streamline and maybe another optimization pass though

I’m a bit nervous about this DLC. They’d really need to revamp how Ciri plays for it to be fun

[rose whale]

Is it confirmed that you play as ciri in the upcoming w3 DLC as well?

De la croix

[stark anvil]

I mean the DLC isn’t confirmed in general, but I’d be surprised if that wasn’t the plan.

[cold basin]

boi aint no way

why this soon when im mid playthrough

ahhh

[split wigeon]

That means Halk's HDRP update scheduled for 2026 will be postponed to 2027 at least if they do drop a DLC lol

[rare scroll]

yeah the only reason for a dlc now is to connect it to witcher 4

also some extra money from it could help with development

[rugged nest]

PAID?

[rare scroll]

i would pay a full game price for a witcher 3 dlc at this point

[rugged nest]

Yeah I said it as a positive cause Im imagining that if its paid it´ll be big

Rather than a 2h thing which is what I expected

[cold basin]

oh yeah good point tbh

[quiet sandal]

dunno if the paid part will turn out

up to now all, most mentions where of a small bridge between W3 and W4

[cold basin]

well if its just some 2 hour thing you might as well just explain it all in the trailers n shit leading to the release of w4

[gusty silo]

please please please update streamline, i still cant believe i cant do 3x FG in this game

[dim wyvern]

What HDR format are you guys using for images?

[gusty silo]

use reshade or SKIV

it can create a png with the HDR info viewable in discord

[dim wyvern]

Doesn't look quite the same as in game when I preview it with the Window's default Photo app. Not sure if that is the same for here.

Ah, much better here than in the Photo app. Although interestingly the highlights in the middle of the sun are brighter here than they are in game

[dim wyvern]

Thank you

[stark anvil]

In chromium apps, hdr images are scaled based on the windows SDR slider (stupid design choice). It should look right when set to 31.

[stark anvil]

So has anybody seen anything while using this that is a deal breaker?

I think I may make a slider for it just in case, since it’s kind of a hack still

[plush ember]

does the sun look bad ? not related to renodx

[tribal sable]

about as bad as other games

perfect circle

[plush ember]

I mean, it's same for everyone, or I am encountering some issue

[tribal sable]

oh idk haven't played

[stark anvil]

That’s just how it is, yeah. The glare around the sun in particular looks pretty bad I think, but if you flip to the Sdr in hdr mode you’ll see why (they clip the fuck out of the sky)

It still looks decent with bloom and sunshafts I think, which is why I was particularly annoyed with not getting those shaders working perfectly

[stark anvil]

• added bloom peak slider, possibly just for testing

now that I've added a slider, maybe dropping down to around 40 makes more sense (or rather making 50 on the slider the equivalent of 40 rn)

mmmm nvm, even 50 is a bit low for white orchard

seems like a solid enough all rounder that won't leave any one area starved

[proper valve]

about to drop a DLC that fixes every single NG issue and adds path tracing :]

[stark anvil]

think I found a way to improve things a bit more with bloom/sunshafts

• added sunshaft peak slider, possibly just for testing

this is also setup to rein in the sunshafts in the most extreme instances and it doesn't seem to have any big downsides other than that

Vanilla vs RenoDX

This shift from weird ass red to a more natural yellow is almost entirely from hue shifting from their saturation code going out of gamut and clamping

sun position and tone for reference so it's clear it shouldn't really be red like that

[tribal sable]

have you tried editing the sun shader

could make it brighter

[stark anvil]

I did try, I can't remember what the issue was

[tribal sable]

probably messed with autoexposure

[heady dune]

very low or high?

[rose whale]

This looks great. Is that a camera mod ?

Looks much closer

[dim wyvern]

Yep! Enhanced Camera, gives a God of War (2018) style close over the shoulder option.
https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/10008

[rose whale]

nice now I have an excuse for the 4th playthrough within the last 2 years lol

[dim wyvern]

I’m using the Ultimate Mod Collection, pretty stable, lots of good QoL mods etc.

[rose whale]

might take a look thanks

[stark anvil]

Forgot the obligatory @cold basin

[abstract tulip]

how do you configure screenshots on reshade?

[proper valve]

open it and settings i think

[gusty silo]

In like the 2nd tab or something

Jinx

[abstract tulip]

[cold basin]

[gusty silo]

not sure if you ever found the link to SKIV, it is kind of hidden

#792979353117524009 message

in the special k server

also you may have the highest shared server count ive ever seen <3

[cold basin]

you technically dont need it from there if you have SK

i make a shortcut to the one within SK itself, that way if SK updates, SKIV also gets updated and i dont have to do anything

[gusty silo]

ah thats good to know, the installer has it automatically then

[cold basin]

[dim wyvern]

Thanks man, yeah, I recognised your name/dp probably from a variety of servers I'm sure you've helped me out with something before. Like on Assassin's Creed Shadows or something.

[cold basin]

real

[dim wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-smirk-gif-1501673502766173669

[unreal badge]

the frantic masses screaming, Doppler! Doppler! Do not believe their lies

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-witch-may-we-burn-her-witch-hunt-gif-25354347

[cold basin]

[frank hill]

OMG, thank you man, I didn't know this and I always thought that there was something wrong with it... is this happening with HDR videos as well or just with pictures?

[spring crown]

Only pictures now

[stark anvil]

can't find an SDR setup I think is artistically all that solid

game was very carefully tuned around its bullshit

heh, nvm maybe

[night yarrow]

sdr is bad anyway

and i suppose sdrlets dont like the new sdr

because it looks less bright

[stark anvil]

Nobody has said anything about it, I’m just trying to make the most of it.

[naive bramble]

i hope its not just a dlc instead they fix the whole next gen version too

did anyone notice shadows of vegetation being grey with filterless touissant?

[prisma bramble]

hey the toggles for recommended purist yada yada dont do anything other than the colour temp

[cold basin]

huh

all sliders work for me

[stark anvil]

Weird….wonder why. Which version of the game?

[prisma bramble]

oh maybe the base version

oops

this wasnt my gog verson, just steam shared

ill try that out in a bit

[stark anvil]

It's insane how much the game normally clips in SDR

[molten swift]

daaaaang

[stark anvil]

tempted to add an "HDR emulation" mode to SDR, which is basically just cutting the exposure down to like a quarter or third and telling people to max out their screen brightness.

not sure how many non-hdr screens would even do that justice though. When most SDR users will be on IPS monitors, probably not worth it....

[stark anvil]

v3.3.0

• Rework bloom/sunshafts, more faithful to vanilla
• Update recommended preset
• Improve SDR UX, update SDR presets

unless there are bugs or I feel strongly inclined to update something in a preset, I think this is the last update until there are future developments that I think will benefit the game

[stark anvil]

for details on the bloom rework, the solution is kinda simple. I just had to pick the right tonemapper for the job basically, cause I definitely tried this before and didn't like the results. I'm just tonemapping samples by luminance with reinhard piecewise down to a kind of arbitrary value that's somewhere in the middle of where the vanilla tonemapper often ends up. Some areas end up with bloom that's a bit more aggressive than they should, and some end up with a bit less bloom than they should, but in most cases without A/B comparisons it looks about right

beats the previous implementation which had moments of just doing almost nothing

[plush ember]

RPL Lighting Mod

ALM Lighting Mod

Vanilla Lighting

[rose whale]

Thanks for all your efforts! It looks grrat

[stark anvil]

anybody know of any good movement overhauls?

I'm used to the jank of navigating this game world so I usually just kinda put up with it, but I might as well see if someone did something about it...

[rose whale]

https://youtu.be/ibIYkySfO1A

Here are some but I didn't try them myself

As usual some are just over the top

[cold basin]

Combat isnt navigating the game world xd

[quiet sandal]

The one that removes the doodoo camera stutter thing

It causes the camera to constantly bounce up and down

Gives the illusion that the game is stuttering

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/7155?tab=description

[heady dune]

https://modspot.dev/u/aeltoth/tw3-smart-camera

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/5800

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/9674

With those three, this is the result.

I'm not using the right stick for anything.

[rose whale]

Which cloak mod is this?

Looks really good

[heady dune]

this is how a true witcher fights 😛

is called Hoods!

[rose whale]

Ah thats the one where you cant use torches at the same time right?

(Next gen version)

[heady dune]

Of course you can!

But only if you have a real GPU 😉

[stark anvil]

vanilla vs renodx (also with better vanilla lighting mod)

[tall merlin]

the auto exposure effect seems to be strong on better vanilla so i didnt end up using it, which is a shame because it is nice

[stark anvil]

oh yeah, I was supposed to look into that...

[rose whale]

Thr cloak is using the slot of the torch in my case. Looking at the comments of the mod other people have that problem as well. Do you use dx 12?

[cold basin]

okay after like a week long break i need to get back into witcher 3

8 days even

[rare scroll]

thats a really long time away to be away from the peak 3

[cold basin]

It was, but I played for 3 weeks straight 10+ hours a day

Had to take a break

[stark anvil]

For the first time in a while I got to just sit down and play for an extended period of time yesterday and that felt good lol

[cold basin]

didnt have time on the christmas days?

[stark anvil]

Nah, busy with family

And prior to yesterday my free time went toward working on the mod

[naive bramble]

ive played this game on many different platforms since it release on the ps4, had many 100% runs and challenge runs, this was my second playtrough with the next gen edition (first on ps5), first i was looking forward to all the mods but in the end it was this mod daily improved by you that was the biggest difference for me, especially since i got my G5 it was a blast! tyvm for your efforts keep up the good work, i hope you re working on more mods, i think my next game will be E33<3

@stark anvil

[gusty silo]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-sure-jan-heard-that-one-before-yeah-right-ok-gif-18084989

[prisma bramble]

The Complete edition from GOG, still doesn't do anything

Oh, its Vignette

If it's enabled, the sliders dont work

[stark anvil]

Oh, shit, I don’t know if I checked that after reworking things.

Thanks!

I keep it off

[heady dune]

https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/11652

in case it bothers anyone else too

[stark anvil]

• fix tonemapping and sliders with vignette enabled
• add vignette slider (why not)

@prisma bramble sorry about that 😅

[stark anvil]

damn, vignette fix is not complete

[stark anvil]

• fix additional vignette permutation
• make vignette wide color gamut safe
• change vignette slider scale so 100 = vanilla

the way I'm scaling vignette wasn't conducive to increasing strength

now I can turn vignette off again 😅

tired of uploading this shit to nexus

please no more bugs to fix

[night yarrow]

vignette itself is kinda a bug

[stark anvil]

I do find it highly amusing how it took that long for anybody to notice 😅

their vignette also raises the black floor some

or it can anyway

[clever cape]

Well vignette does look pretty terrible in this game, killing contrast and brightening/washing out edges. The opposit of what it should do.

[stark anvil]

I could actually fix that, I just don't think vignette adds much to this game

[clever cape]

I use use a custom reshade shader instead

[stark anvil]

they have a dynamic value that controls basically the lightness of the effect, and I could just make it 0

[clever cape]

I would actually like that

[clever cape]

I do think slight vignetting ads to the game's cinematic feel. But the original shader they use is absolutely terrible.

[stark anvil]

I'll have to make sure this actually works how I think it does

some other time though

[clever cape]

No pb. The current solution I got works well enough to be honest. I found a nice all in one reshade shader that does all post processing in HDR and it works pretty well.

[stark anvil]

actually that may not be how it works. This vignette runs after grading, and some of their LUTs have black raise (it's not noticeable all that often and I broadly think they look good).

so it could be that it's just making their raised grading more noticeable

need to figure out their cursed lut sampling and add lut scaling

[night yarrow]

because everyone turns that off xd

[rugged nest]

I don’t lol

[stark anvil]

Mod should seem better now then lol

[quiet sandal]

Need to make a shitpost that includes Jon working on W3

[noble jungle]

Is there a way to make this work with optiscaler? i get this error https://i.imgur.com/j58jALB.png

[tribal sable]

I think you can rename optiscaler to d3d12.dll

[noble jungle]

Thanks ill try it in a bit

[cold basin]

Bro has been in the Witcher 3 Gulag

-# because i complained about hue shifts a bajillion times

[noble jungle]

Yep this worked thanks

[stark anvil]

apparently some other time is now cause wtf is this

fuckin IPS bleed filter

• add vignette black floor option, defaulting to perfect black
• change vignette slider default to a more reasonable value with this adjustment
• update purist preset to use the vanilla vignette behavior

@rugged nest here you go

cannot be bothered to do the whole nexus dance again today lol

[stark anvil]

now that I know how this works I can easily get this working in the photo mode

nobody should ever listen to me when I say I'm gonna stop working on something 😩

• fix vignette in photo mode with functioning slider (renodx vignette options don't influence it since that would be confusing)

[gusty silo]

bro every time i update today you do more, chill

[stark anvil]

lmao

[gusty silo]

https://tenor.com/view/true-words-were-never-spoken-agree-true-yellowstone-paramount-network-gif-17661008

[stark anvil]

I blame jdsp

it's insane how bad that vanilla vignette is with rtgi lol

[rugged nest]

The fucking 🐐❤️

[unreal badge]

Looks very good. Before I always reached some points at which I turned vignette off again.

[stark anvil]

....I feel like there's a non-zero chance IPS monitors played a role in the proliferation of vignette filters

silly little thought

[quiet sandal]

Holy fucking shit

[cold basin]

Counter thought: Vignette would actually make the backlight bleed more visible because its way more noticeable on dark/black backgrounds

[night yarrow]

IPS is trash for gaming anyway

[prisma bramble]

I can load the mod up again if you want me to find bugs

im very good at this

[clever cape]

Proper vignette yes. Raised black floor vignette does probably make it less noticeable as Jon suggests.

[cold basin]

Raised black in SDR is not really a thing though

[plush ember]

source - https://www.nexusmods.com/hogwartslegacy/mods/660

[cold basin]

What that have to do with anything

Game came out way after Vignette stuff started appearing in games

Ofc some games have cooked black floors in SDR but it’s not that common

[stark anvil]

It’s pretty normal. Loads of games use raised LUTs.

[clever cape]

Really? I haven't launched the game in sdr in a very long time, and it was on a basic IPS at the time so... I really couldn't tell.

[cold basin]

Exactly, either the black floors is good or you wouldn’t really be able to tell on an IPS anyways xD

[clever cape]

Yes. Living in a world with HDR and contrast is a transformative experience. I'm never going back !

[orchid mantle]

THis a lighting mod? Looks very nice

[cold basin]

Just better vanilla lighting

[stark anvil]

I’m really liking better vanilla

[stark anvil]

I'm actually kind of liking the vignette with the black fix and at ~33. It's very subtle

[tall merlin]

I just dislike the really strong exposure effect it has, easily my favourite lighting mod so far

[rose whale]

Skellige is the best part of the game

[plush ember]

i would say HOS DLC

[night yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4495CBm_pw

@stark anvil 2:23 more detail in the clouds

isnt it just autohdr ?

[tribal sable]

is it not just the same as next gen

some of the stuff after tonemapping is allowed to not clip

thus giving some more detail

[night yarrow]

the video looks very autohdr

eye searing

[tribal sable]

gamingtech 500 paper white?

[night yarrow]

cant confirm that

no settings mentioned there

probably no sliders

when did microsoft release their autohdr ?

[tribal sable]

windows 11 beta I think

nvm it was on xbox before

[night yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT1a6NXYy6E

ya here

that tw3 video was from 2018

so its not the autohdr from microsoft at least

(i think)

its probably the same as next gen i guess

otherwise theres no way you can tell more detail in the clouds

unless Tom was talking about nonsense in that video

[stark anvil]

That does look similar to their native hdr to me

On my phone though lol

[night yarrow]

it was way before autohdr even existed

so very likely ya

nobody found that ?

why was it xboxone (x?) exclusive though

[stark anvil]

Actually kind of interesting that it does, cause the pc version of last gen has different shaders and more clamps. It wouldn’t have been just upgrading resources and calling it a day.

[night yarrow]

microsoft special sauce ?

[stark anvil]

Maybe it always had more in common with the next gen version since Xbox one uses dx12 (afaik anyway)

No clue really though, weird to be Xbox exclusive

[night yarrow]

ya i think its dx12

[night yarrow]

whats really weird is

nobody here ever mentioned that

because nobody has an xboxone ?

maybe the next gen is copied from xboxone

with borked rt on top of that

[stark anvil]

I think I've got lut scaling sorted for this game now, just gotta figure out why highlights are slightly boosted with my rewritten sampling and implement it for all grading permutations

[stark anvil]

just had to walk away from it for a while to see what I was doing wrong

[rare scroll]

"just had to walk away from it for a while to see what I was doing wrong" - Jon

a hard quote there

[stark anvil]

feel like my code is such a mess, but I guess it is my first time doing this...

[stark anvil]

wish I could remember where all these permutations show up

[stark anvil]

for the life of me I cannot find a place to test this last shader lol

[stark anvil]

alright well I've spent almost an hour going to a variety of locations and can't get this other grading shader to show up, so time to crowd source

• add LUT scaling and improve LUT sampling

would appreciate anybody that could run this and lookout for problems.

[stark anvil]

it's so strange to me that this game makes for a bit of a WCG showcase

[tribal sable]

since they're doing distance from y to add saturation, did you try running hue correction afterwards since shortfuse mentioned distance from y isn't perfect. Probably won't make a difference though

[slate forge]

I've been messing with it. I had to put "LUT grading strength" to 0 to get it to look pretty close to the previous version in super low light situations. I play with no artificial player light so any amount of raised blacks or weirdness in that area is very apparent.

[stark anvil]

So far pretty much all of the hue changes make more sense to me. Just looks more natural

[stark anvil]

That’s very weird, it should look basically identical to previous builds if you put lut scaling to 0, and 100 should address any black raise

[tribal sable]

Well the hue changes here are from not clipping

Clipping to bt709 is what’s causing the weird reds I assume

And now that you’re not clipping maybe hue correction could make it even better

[stark anvil]

It occurred to me while in the shower that you probably meant to hue correct toward the ungraded hues and not the hue clipped ones lol

I’ll have to try that

Makes a lot of sense

[tribal sable]

Ya

ShortFuse showed us those images showing the difference between saturation in OkLab, y, dkl, etc

Iirc y only really had issues with dark purple/blue