#Underside Discussion
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I came up with a theory during school today that Xor is a being made from the terminal’s code
since she stated that when the terminal was removed, she changed so much
and since the terminal has everything about the mod, even the lore, that might be how Xor became a big fan of the game
🤔
I wish and hope we get an official reveal for Lord Bambi’s design in the future
volume 2 is our only hope 💔
i like the mystery of the lack of a design and seeingpeoples various lord bambi interps: but at the same time a canon design Would be awesome....
the dave and bambi future projects
oh yeahhh
um
ye I forgot those were happening for a sec
._.
but we still don’t know when that’s happening
..but we dunno when volume 2 is coming out either
idk don’t listen to me imma shut up now
is volume 2 coming out on the fifth anniversary too hopeful or
That seems realistic
I find it really interesting how the game labels Expunged as an anticheat
oh wait
OH WAIT I GET IT NOW
OH MY GOD IM SO STUPID
i've mentioned this before here but i always assumed that expunged was just infiltrating the anticheat. but the idea of him Being a fake anticheat is intruiging too.....
-# also in a similar vein i wonder if the errors and such will be more accurate to actual haxe code instead of just being nebulous pseudo-code. i mourn the loss of the verbose error when starting exploitation in the beta builds every day /hyp
*glaring at the golden tristan v-pose trying to figure out which confettis are referencing what characters* (homestuck brain doing overtime)
me when literally anything is color-coded ever: oh em gee this is just like homestuck hit webcomic hojme stuck
WAIT ACTUALLY the unlock confetti has an extra red and dark purple particle..... maybe i Am onto something /delusional
i remember trying to find this exact file
as you can See..... colors
notes:
- i suppose playrobot could be the gold particle but in my head it makes more sense for her to be the yellow particle even if it's pure yellow
- in a similar vein you could swap bimpe and juan around and it wouldn't make much difference, but since the one at the bottom is slightly more cyan i feel like it makes more sense to put juan there
- bimpe is the other pure green particle and not the purple particle because the purple particle leans too far magenta. bimpe's purple (both on his design and in his icon) is much more blue (also there's probably something to be said about there specifically being two red and two green particles while none of the other colors are repeated)
- like i said above, tristan's hey pose (where this mystery confetti is also summoned) is missing the bottom red and purple particles
- if i had to guess who the unidentified particles are, i'd say gold is matthason (kinda superficial but yknow. fire. and being madden's david (who also happens to have a lot of orange on him). orange/gold makes sense to me) and cyan is n (since his pfp is spooky blue skull but the other blues are already taken)
-# this is your brain on four years of dave and bambi
-# actually if i'm being that pedantic on colors with bimpe and juan, carl and muko should probably be swapped around because the lower pink particle is more red
p.s. no i don't know what this is supposed to mean either, i think i'm just finding patterns in places i shouldn't be looking </3
i can't believe no one else had anything to say about confetti colors smh..... /nm
I SO wanna see Bambi driving a truck lmao
GUES HE TRIES TO DO THE FARMER JOB SOMETHIMES (OR MAYBYE JUST HAVE FUN CONTROLING THEY TRUCK LOL)
Knowing that Dave is aware of the prophecy and is trying to stop Tristan’s destiny from coming to fruition makes this bedtime song rlly sad :[
faced by the insurmountable future hes ironically set in motion by the very act of trying to protect others from what he thinks is the danger of himself
i often wonder what his internal thoughts and feelings are about all that
like, imagine being dave. you have a little incident with your son you didnt mean to happen. nobody's hurt, but you want to make sure nobody ever gets hurt. you spend 2+ years building a machine nobody has ever remotely envisioned the likes of just to remove that power from yourself. and then you use it, and it works. for a while. suddenly that power created a broken reflection of yourself, the machine failed, and youve learned a prophecy that your son is destined to face off somehow with that being and is entirely ambiguous on his, or your, fate
thats fucking insane
the fact he can even still pass as a relatively normal functional person (lore rewrite notwithstanding that will likely change most of this) is impressive, but its also no wonder he just randomly has outbursts with his powers. how much stress is he avoiding/tuning out if his powers are triggered by "a mass amount" of it
just found this feller in a fanart madden made… is it rlly proto or are they fanmade ive never seen this guy like ever
that's from a random moldy ghost upload. he was absolutely tweaking and uploaded like 50 videos. i can send you the full video because i managed to screen record it before it got privated
yeah could u send me,??
wait hollup the way the video you sent me goes could be connected to smth
i kinda think it was just something moldy ghost recorded for fun but i love my theories based on two crumbs /gen
- the video starts with a drawing of tristan, later decomposing(?) into a skull that resembles papyrus
- later in the vid dmh draws someone that looks like dave but something is off, and then later ending the video with writing “POWER” over the drawing and later duplicating it
- the audio seems like gibberish, but I think it’s trying to say something, it’s that it’s drowned in different effects
- the “watermark” is just “Molsy” which is moldy but badly spelled
Wait
maybe the “moldy ghost” might be someone/something trying to duplicate “moldy”
my theories could be either expunged themselves, the weird N account from daves email and XOR.
honestly, hiding lore shit (albeit very vague lore shit) in a slew of random reuploads would be really funny
- expunged because of the weird drawing of dave and the writing of “POWER” over the drawing, probably very enraged(?)
dillon is just probably messing around but this is very interesting
- and the drawing of tristans skull ofc
tbf n's profile picture is also a spooky skull
- the “N” account due to the weird audio trying to say something, probably a cryptic message or or hear me outonthis what if the cults cypher was ACTUALLY a language and the audio is in that language…puts on aluminum hat
i thin k the audio is just a tts saying "moldygh" over and over but just changing velocity
..... 💥
- XOR because since she’s sucked into the games code, he tries to communicate to the real world by doing that video of their (possible) take on what’s going to happen in dnb..??.!
Aokay y’all thankyou for coming. To My Talk😁
thank you for talking it was Very insightful.,...
Your welcome madd. En number3️⃣
-# three whole maddens..... we are the maddenlings, please feed us
we’re like birds communicating with chirp chirp tweet chirp 🐣
yes..... 🕊️
aaALSO I DIDNT COMMENT ON THIS but maybe it fuels more on my XOR being the “moldy ghost” theory..👀
since MAAAYYYBEEE shes trying to duplicate moldy’s content/way of making videos.?? Ponders
[2;35mWHAT'S THAT GUY'S NAME? "MOLSY"? I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. OuX[0m
YEAH YEAH LIKETHAT
i can assure you i have nothing to do with this /j
[HEY MOLDYS ACCOUNT IS NO LONGER IN USE! I CAN USE THIS ACCOUNT FOR MY DEEP HATRED FOR DAVE AND HIS STUPID CHILD!]
I WOULD NEVER… 👀👀👀
u SUREEEEE..???
sweats
MAN DAVE IS SO STRONG HONESTLY...ANYONE AT THAT KIND OF STREES (SPECIALLY WITH THEIR SON OR LOVED ONES) WILL JUST LOSE THEIR MIND AND GO COMPLELTY CRAZY (OR EVEN WORSE THINGS....)...DAVE STILL DOES THE BEST HE CAN EVEN THO HE IS TERRIFIED
(SOMEONE GIVE THAT MAN A HUG...LIKE ALL THAT WOULD MAKE ANYONE EXPLOTE REALLY)
Tristan is adopted but we all already know that
YEAH I KNOW BUT I MEAN THAT IS HIS SON AT THIS POINT :0 (EVEN IF HE IS ADOPTED, TRISTAN AND DAVE CONSIDER EACH OTHER AS FAMILY)
I think that before Tristan was adopted, he was the son of Dya from the game Garrett's Fun Animal Game
(I think)
NOPE, GARRETT AND THEIR GAMES, LORE AND ALL WHERE COMPLELTY TAKEN OUT OF DNB AND THEY ARE NOT RELATED (AS WELL THAT THEORY OF DO YOU ACCEPT BEING TRISTAN'S FATHER WAS ALSO PROVEN TO BE FALSE BY GAPPLE DEVS :0)
SO WELL THATS WHY THO TRISTAN'S DESIGN (IN DFAC) MAY JUST BE INSPIRED IN DYA BUT NOTHING MORE THAN THAT :0
Wah whaa what did i miss i just saw the vids before privated
aNd im missing another one
tbf that video was the last one i got through before they got privated. i can dm the screen recording i took of it to you if you're interested
I tthink its saying moldy or i think i can hear moldygh
very minor thing but was madden being a flute player ever. canon?? i swear i remember reading that it was word-of-god'd but it also might've just been one of cheat's headcanons
ocarina of mad
thank you expunged..... /nm
exploitation on the flute
how
expunged fuckery ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
I like to think that it’s canon but maybe that could be a very old fun fact
i genuinely don't remember where i read that info though..... it probably would've been on twitter but searching up "madden flute" brings up nothing relevant 💔
maybe in tumblr????
i don't think i was using tumblr at the time, this was like. probably 2023-ish. it might've been around when madden's canon design was made public
ohh
but still the madden flute thingy is cool since it kinda adds the fact that madden could be from anywhere in the world (since flutes are a very international concept)
yes..... 🪈
I personally headcanon him as indigenous mexican(especially aztec),…
-# oh cheat's twitter is private </3 no wonder why it wasn't indexing anything from them
💔💔
I wonder if we’ll ever get to know HOW Dave got his 3D magic
I LIKE TO THINK HE GOT THEM LIKE FROM THE START BUT THEY DIDNT REALLY BEGAN TO SHOW UP REALLY ROUGTLY (OR AT ALL) AFTER THE ROCKET INCIDENT
LIKE THAT WAS THE START IF DAVE ACTUALLY HAVING LIKE A ....BOOM IF WE CAN SAY THAT HIS POWERS STARTED APREAING, AFTER ALL HIS 3D POWERS ARE ATTACHED TO PTSD FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND READ
SOOOO IT COULD BE THAT HE ALWAYS GOT THEM BUT THEY DIDNT SHOW UP (OR AT LEAST THEY DIDNT DO SO MUCH?) UNTIL THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED
Maybe the chemicals on that rocket are radioactive
From what i heared from my thoughts abt this is that every rocket has chemical reaction and some of tgis reaction reaches to dave
And heres the chemicals since im too stupid to do science
From what i believed from here i think the chemicals are wrongly placed or something is wrong with the system and cannot functional properly with the rocket causing it to explode and for how dave git his 3d power at the first place is that one of the chemical reactions that aren't supposed to be apart of the rocket started reacting to the human body affecting dave.
Which causes him to lose not only his legs but also his mental state or ptsd

HMMMMM MAYBYE THAT CAN BE, THO SEEING HOW DAVES POWERS ARE ABLE TO CREATE A LIVING ENTITY WHEN EXTRACTED (EXPUNGED) I WOULD THINK:
a) THE CHEMICALS IN THAT ROCKET MAYBYE HAD SOMETHING ELSE OR ARE DANGEROUSLY RAIDOACTIVE
b) MY THEORY OR SOMETHING ABOUTH GIFTED POWERS (THIS TAKEN FROM OTHER PEOPLE HCS THAT I HONESTLY THINK FIT TO!) T
THO ALL OF THIS IS JUST THEORIES IF DAVES POWERS OFC :0 YOURS IS ALSO REALLY INTERESTING!
when Lord Bambi removed his eyes, what happened to them? ._.
IS NOT SPECIFIED WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM, THEY PROBABLY DISSAPEARED OR ARE KEEP SECRETLY BUT NOT SURE
OR MAYBYE THEY TURNED INTO POWER...NOT SURE
They became tristan (trust)
Id personally pick A. because dave is a human lol
Maybe one of them turned into Dave’s 3D magic :3
Dave and bambi have different powers and cannot connect imo but yeah prtty cool speculation
i always wonder that do juan actually have a cartoon physics
it might fall under his fourth-wall breaking. if he already has a more intimate knowledge of the nature of his world, he probably knows how to exploit that to some extent =:P
-# i assume there are some limits to his knowledge though. my headcanon is that he knows how things work but he doesn't know what exactly is going to happen (because otherwise how would any backstory happen if one dude just knows everything)
MADDEN!
oh ok
HELP
LMAO
theory+headcanon: fort geraldson is a fisher kingdom. (thats a trope name my autistic ass loves tropes)
take a look at madden and matthason and then at dave. theres not only a stylistic difference, but general anatomical difference
madden and matthason aren’t native to the area (most likely) and neither have been there.
dave has lived there for a good 9ish yearsI think that fort geraldson just genuinley makes the people who stay there more cartoony and affected by cartoon physics+logic
Bambi is immune because. Well. He’s bambi.
the reason that the lord bambi followers are both stylistically and anatomically different is because they werent exposed to the fortgeraldsonness. not that the outside world is outright realistic, just, not as caricactured as fort geraldson.
I wonder what other Fort Geraldson residents thought when/if they found out Dave befriended Bambi
since Bambi is canonically known as the local cryptid and stuff like that
I PROBABLY THINK THEY ACTUALLY KNOW BECAUSE IN DAVE'S TOYHOUSE IS SAID THAT HE IS KINDA KNOWN FOR HAVING BAMBI AS HIS ACTUAL BEST FRIEND, THEY PROBABLY WOULD JUST IGNORE IT BUT FIND IT KINDA CREEPY THAT BAMBI IS WITH HIM MAYBYE
OR MAYBYE THEY JUST THINK BAMBI CAN BE IN CONTROL WITH DAVE MAKING SURE HE DOESNT GO CRAZY IR SOMETHING :0
strawpage?
OH SORRY SORRY I MEAN TOYHOUSE
Oh
WAIT WE SHOULD TALK HERE AGAIN, WE ARE USING THEY CHANEL OF DNB DISCUSSION TO LORE THINGS....MAYBYE WE SHOULD TALK THEM HERE 😅
JUST SAYING 😅
i think either works
dnb discussion seems to be for general discussion of anything related to dnb
this thread is specifically just for dnblore and other dnblore-based projects
OHHHHH RIGHT, WELL THEN :D
M16 is pretty cool
Go my maddens


/silly
I really want to see everything unfold in vol 2 cant wait gng
I should show my take of the bambism church in Minecraft
But i had no ideas when it comes to building block
And i haven't started it
FUCK
FUCK FUCK FICKFUCKFUKCU

And i have no ideas
Im cooked
Working on it yayyayaysghdhsjja!!
While I was discovering the D&B fandom and investigating the lore I originally thought that the void that Madden was somehow sent to was the place that Recurser lived at
obviously Recurser has nothing to do with the mod anymore but this was before I found out he was retconned
and I watched community game play the 3.0 version
i still dont understand madden, is he like someone that was trapped or?
Madden was formerly a prophet of Lord Bambi. He was the one who delivered the prophecy (Lord Bambi removing his eyes every day, the golden one being the key to defeating the unnameable, etc) and it shocked the followers. They eventually revolted and tried to execute him. Instead, for unknown reasons (likely his own powers), he ended up in the Void, and has remained stuck there indefinitely
This is all based on 3.0 lore, this is likely to change in Volume 2
if it's confusing, there is a chronological timeline of the lore here https://daveandbambi.wiki/index.php/Vs._Dave_and_Bambi/Lore
oh thanks for the link
np
PROBABLY HE HAS BEEN STUCK IN THE VOID UNTIL THEY EVENTS OF DNB (MAYBYE POLYGONIZED OR MAYBYE INTERDIMENSIONAL) WHEN THEY GO TO THE 3D VOID (MAYBYE IN THE SONGS OF CHEATING, UNFEIRNESS OR OTHERS?)
THO I FEEL AT LEAST MADDEN WOULD SEE SOEMTHING THATS GOING ON IN THE 3D VOID (BECAUSE OF HIS TIME THERE.... BUT NOT SURE, WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL VOLUME 2 GIVES US MORE LORE)
cause like this place is very void-like
Ik he’s retconned but where the hell are they here
my house
what
Daves house
PROBABLY SOME KIND OF VOID RECURSED HAD (BEFORE IT WAS ELIMINATED OFC) I MEAN IN THE 3D VOID WE SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VOID DIMENSIONS, DAVE HAING THE MOST OF THEM (AT SEEN IN INTERDIMENSIONAL) BUT EXPUNGED ALSO HAS HIS...THEM BEING SOME KIND OF WEIRD AND ABSTRACTED VERSION OF DAVES ONES, SO ITS POSSIBLE THAT RECURSED HAD HIS TO
BEING SOME KIND OF DARK AND WHITE SPACE WITH SYMBOLS AND ALL THAT STUFF...THO OFC IT ISTN IN THE MOD ANYMORE BUT WHAT I MEAN IS THAT IT SEEM S THAT THE 3D VOID HAVE A UNIQUE SPACE FOR ANYONE THAT IS IN THERE (EVEN KABUNGA THAT IS A JOKE SONG HAS ITS OWN VOID TO)
Wait im into something
So Apparently i think this dimension is extremely endless
Whenever you came to the 3d realm it will take you to other places
More like a puzzel
Which means for me i can say that most of the places are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS some of them are safer but they are rare to find anyways
Which also means yhat it can also be called hell
the happy goofballs
Bambi leaves corn kernels around Dave’s house
that’s the lore I came to discuss
but also just the little goobers
Hope one of them explodes
HMMMMM HONESTLY THAT MAKES SENSE! I LIKE THAT VERSION OF THE VOID :D THO I MOSTLY THINK THE 3D VOID CAN BE....WEIRD MAYBYE, SO IT CAN BE THAT IN SOME CASES THE VOID CAN BE.. "PERSONALIZATED" FOR THE ONES WHO ARE THERE...THO OFC IT CAN BE REALLY DANGEROUS DEPENDING ON THE PERSON WHO IS THERE
I MOSLTY SAY IS LIKE PERSONALIZATED OR AT LEAST COSTRYCTED OF HOW THEY CHARACTER THINKS IR MORE
B CAUSE FOR DAVE NORMALLY IS ALYWAS ABSTACT BUT COLOFRULL, TO EXPUNGED IT ALWAYS HAVE TO GO WITH GLITCHES AND MORE DANGEROUS THINGS
AND FOR EXBUNGO US THEIR HOUSE (THE HERL THING IS A JOKE MADE FIR THE SONG I THINK)
BUT I ALSO THINK THEY VOID IS ENDLES! THO I ASO HAVE THIS HC....WHAT IF THERE IS A SOECIFIC VOID MADE FOR EVERYONE? OR AT LEAST THE ONE WHO HAVE 3D POWERS?
LIKE THEIR OWN VOID
BUT EXPUNGED MAYABYE IS ABLE TO CONTROL MOST OF THEM KNOWING THE GREAT CONTROL HE HAS WITH 3D POWER, OFC DAVE AT NOT HAVING THAT HE MAYBYE LETS BY ACCIDENT OTHERS BE AND MATIPULATE THE VOID HE HAS
wait,,,maybe hes doing that due to muscle memory
HearMEOUT hearmeout
- since his past followers gave offerings to him, maybe hes doing that also by giving them “food of the gods”
- but bambi is not LORD bambi anymore so maybe…he was giving his followers offerings SO MUCH that he does it unconsciously
That would make sense actually
He doesn’t remember being a god but he feels like doing that as if it’s an instinct
PROBABLY SOME OF HIS.....GOD PAST ARE STILL IN THE ONLY TWO EYES HE HAS LEFT (IS NOT SO POWERFULL BUT...STILL SOMETHING IS THERE)
i always think abt that bit in his week where things go glitchy (at least they did in 3.0 idr if they do in vol1)
bambi latent god energy
I wonder how lonely Xor must be majority of the time, in her dialogue she says she hasn’t spoken to anyone before
I MEAN IF XOR IS COMPLELTY ALONE IN THE TERMINAL AND CODE (FOR NOW TAKING IN COUNT EXPUNGED IS NOT IN THE MOD UNTIL VOLUME 2 AND THE 4 WALL BREAK XOR SEEM TO DO....)
I GUES FOR JUST SEE WHAT OTHERS DO BUT MORE THAN THAT.......XOR DOESNT HAVE ANYONE SHE CAN TALK TO UNTIL WE PLAYED THE MOD :0
THO I WONDER HOW IT WILL TURN OUT WHEN VOLUME 2 COMES :0 MAYBYE FOR WILL NOT BE SO ALONE
That also mean theres a heaven in fort geraldson and the only key to see heaven as a whole is bambi probably
And those eyes are the ones bambi has now currently
HMMM ABOUTH THAT THERE HASNT BEEN SOOOOOO MUCH INFO ABOUTH HELL AND HEAVEN AS WELL OTHER RELIGIOUS THINGS ABOUTH LORD BAMBI BUT I WOULD HONESTLY THINK THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A HELL THERE, MAYBYE A REALLY DANGEROUS VOID DESSIGNED FOR PUNISHMENT (PROBABLY LIKE SOMETHING EXPUNGED WOULD HAVE)
YUP DUE THAT HE REMOVED THE OTHERS (ITS NOT SPECIFIED WHAT HAPPENED WITH THEN BUT I HAVE THE THEORY BAMBI LEAVED THEM SOMEWHERE, JUST THAT WELL...HE CANT REMEMBER AT ONLY HAVING TWO LEFT)
because its hell lol for somewhere i know each void has its own personal hell based on what has happened to dave
I believed that heaven might be something related to bambi
So heres what i have
Bambi is a god while expunged is the devil
WOAH IM SO SMART
I GUES IT IS :0 THO MAYBYE IS BECAUSE IF THE INFLUFENCE EXPUNGED HAS ON DAVE OFC, HE NORMALLY GOES TO DAVES VOID JUST TO HAVE FUN SCARING AND MESSING WITH HIM, THIS MAKES ME THINK DAVES VOID CAN VE SOMETHING ELSE WHEN EXPUNGED ISNT AROUND
AFTER ALL DAVES VOID SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ALTERED
IDK WHY MY TEACHERS ARE TELLING ME IM FAILING/j
EXPUNGED VOIDS NORMALLY HAVE HIS COLOURS (IN CHEATING THE VOID IS GREEN, FOR KABUNGA IS RED AS WELL FOR UNFAIRNESS AND EXPLOTATION) SO THAT MAKES ME THINK DAVES VOID WOULD ACTUALLY BE BLUE AND MORE CALM...BUT BECAUSE OF EXPUNGED, WHEN DAVE ACCIDENTALLY GOES TO THE VOID IT TURNS DANGEROUS AND RED
I THINK EACH VOID CAN ALSO BE CONECTED TO THE FEELINGS, EMOTIONS, THOUGHTS AND MORE AND THEY SHAPE IF HOW THE PERSON IS FEELING (THO THIS WOULD ONLY AFFECT THE VOID ONLY DAVES HAS AND NOT THE OTHER ONES)
OFC DAVE AT BEING SO CONFUSED, SCARED AND NOT KNOWING SO MUCH ABOUTH 3D POWERS HIS VOID CAN BE MESSY AND CONFUSING....THIS MAKES ME THINK THAT MAYBYE IF HE IS CALM...THE 3D VOID WOULDNT BE DO BAD AFTER ALL...MAYBYE A CONFORTING AND CALM PLACE
BUT WELL IS JUST MY THEORIES 😅
Hhhnmmmm interesting
YEAH....I NORMALLY TAKE THIS BY THE OTHER VOIDS SEEN IN DNB FANMODS :O (OFC THEY ARE NOT CANNON FOR THE OG DNB BUT STILL THEY ARE LIKE SOECIFIC FOR ANYONE)
SO I HONESTLY BELIVE DAVES VOID IS ACTUALLY A MUCH BETTER OLACE FOR HIM, DESSIGNED AND CAN BE CHANGED DEPENDING HOW DAVE IS AT THAT TIME...BUT BECAUSE IF EXPUNGED MESSING WITH THE 3D VOIDS IT OFC TRUNS INTO A NIGTHMARE TO DAVE...THO IT MAYBYE ISNT THE INTENTION OF THEM OFC
I feel like yhe more the voids are created byy other people the more rooms are coming into the void itself
GUES THAT ALSO CAN MAKE SENSE :O
I remembered one of the tropes i had on my head is that expunged might be similar to doremy from touhou 15 but more evil and stupid/silly
UHHHHH HOW SO? :O (SORRY IDK ANYTHING ABOUTH TOUHOU 😭.....ASIDE FROM THE SONGS THAT ARE AMAZING) THO I WILL TAKE IT AS...SOMETHING OR SOMEONE THAT HAS A LOT OF POWER TO CONTROL DIMENSIONS....IG? 😅
LMAOO😭😭
I MEAN EXPUNGED GIVES DAVES REALLY VIOLENT NIGHTMARES FROM WHAT I SEARCHED IN THE LORE
OR AT LEASTS CAN GET IN DAVES HEAD
THO NOT SURE IF THAT STILL HAPPENS AFTER THEY P.R.A.E.M THING, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER THING OFC
So unrelated heres the wiki
Doremy Sweet - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more https://share.google/ClDWVvJ9hKYWSVMjy
Doremy Sweet (ドレミー・スイート, Doremī Suīto) is a baku and ruler of the Dream World where she manages the dream selves of many people. She owns a dream journal which is said to record the dreams of everyone who has ever dreamt in their life. Doremy first appeared as the midboss and boss of Stage 3 as well as the Extra Stage...
OH ALR 👍
expunged eats daves dimension
Would expunged have daves memory
Ive wondered this before. my headcanon is that he inherited his memories or at least some of them
it makes sense if she does to establish how she knows the way she was created, though she could've figured that out afterwards as well
theres no real timeline on what happens early in expunged's existence, just that they appear in dave's dreams for a while until seeing him in person on Tristan's 9th birthday
I think that fits in
I was just thinking if Expunged had Daves memory she would be frustrated at herself when she unconsciously recalls daves old memories or think in daves perspective
Its like being the one who understands the person he hate the most
I HAVE THE HC (AND THEORY) THAT EXPUNGED MESSED OR "GLITCHED" DAVES MIND OF MEMORIES, THATS WHY DAVE GETS (OR MAYBYE GOT) NIGHTMARES WITH EXPUNGED AND MAYBYE A REALLY POOR CONTROL ON 3D (I THINK EXPUNGED MESSED WITH HIS MIND AND CORRUPTED SOME OF HIS POWER...MAYBYE TO THE POINT OF MAKING DAVE FORGET HOW TO USE HIS POWERS) THO I THINK THAT STOPED AFTER HE USED THE P.R.A.E.M AND GOT EXPUNGED OUT, THO OFC SHE WOULD STILL MESS WITH HIM IN OTHER WAYS, LINE IN THE 3D VOID
THO MAYBYE EXPUNGED WOULD ANYLIZE THE REASONS OF DAVE TAKING THEM OUT.....WICH OFC WOULD GET EXPUNGED INCREDIBLY MAD AND WITH REMORSE TO DAVE
I MEAN...IF THE P.R.A.E.M WAS ABLE TO EXTRACT DAVES CORRUPTED POWER, IT WOULDNT BE SO WEIRD THAT IT ALSO MAKE THE CORRUPTED POWER(EXPUNGED) HAS OR MAYBYE TAKE SOME OF DAVES MEMORIES
MAYBYE BAD OR CORRUPTED MEMORIES AS WELL (MAYBYE SOME OF THEM BEING HIS KNOWLEDGE OF 3D POWER? KNOWING EXPUNGED CAN USE THEM WELL) SO MAYBYE THATS WHY DAVE DOESNT KNOW OR REMEMBER HOW TO USE THEM, THO THATS MORE JUST MY HC THINGS
It’s admirable how despite everything that’s happening to Dave lore-wise, he still tries his best to act like everything’s okay for Tristan’s sake
my guy is a good dad
MAN DAVE SERIOSULY IS SO STRONG! AND NOT ONLY FOR TRISTAN BUT ALSO FOR THOSE HE KNOWS! MAYBYE TO BAMBI AND HIS DAUGHTER PLAYROBOT! <:)
I wonder how they made this Cell texture with the shadings
I know it may envolve bevel
MAYBYE HE HAS SOME SHADERS IR SOMETHING IN PAINT 3D? OR MAYBYE ANOTHER 3D MODELING APP WHERE THEY GIVE HIM SOME KIND OF SATURED LIGHTING
I wonder what Bambi would think if he ever met Expunged
y’know since they’ve canonically never met
I’m unsure whether Expunged knows Bambi or not
i mean expunged took his form
IS PROBABLE HE DOESNT GIVE IT SO MUCH ATTENTION AT FIRTS....OR MAYBYE UNTIL HE SEE HE LOOKS LIKE HIM
PROBABLY THINKING IS A CORN STEALER BUT HE MAYBYE SOON REALIZE EXPUNGED IS MUCH MORE
That was Joke Bambi
I mean the actual Bambi
I HAVE THIS HC ABOUTH THE PROPHECY AND EXPUNGED ...I WONDER IF TRISTAN IS JUST A KEY PART FOR DEFEATING EXPUNGED BUT TRISTAN STILL NEEDS OTHER ONES TO DO IT....I HONESTLY ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUTH LIGHT AND DARK ABOUTH EXPNUGED AND THEY ONE (OR ONES) THAT HAVE TO DEFEAT IT....I MEAN MAYBYE TRISTAN STILL NEEDS THE HELP OF DAVE AND MAYBYE BAMBI TO TO DEFEAT HIM
RED, BLUE AND GREEN ARE THE COLOURS THAT MAKE WHITE LIGHT...AND I ALWYAS HAVE SEEN EXPUNGED AS SOME KIND OF DARKNESS IR DARK GLITCH (EVEN THO HE RED BUT I THINK THATS MORE FOR MAKING HIM LOOK MORE MENACING)
MAYBYE DAVE, TRISTAN AND BAMBI ARE THE LIGHT THAT IS NEEDED TO DEFEAT THE DARKNESS (EXPUNGED) THATS WHY I THINK TRISTAN US A REALLY IMPORTANT PART FOR THE PROPHECY BUT HE STILL NEED OTHER ONES, I WONDER IF MAYBYE LORD BAMBI FORGOT TO TELL IT COMPLETLY DUE TO THE REMOVAL IF HIS EYES THAT MAKE HIM TELL JUST SOME PART IF THE PROFECY
BUT WELL THATS JUST MY THEORY ABOUTH ALL THE EXPUNGED AND PROPHECY THING (AS WELL AS THE GOLDEN ONE...MAYBYE DAVE AND BAMBI HAS ALSO A FORM OF POWER THAT THEY CAN USE TO DEFEAT EXPUNGED BUT IDK)
I’ve had this idea looming in my head for a while that one of Lord Bambi’s eyes that he removed ended up becoming Dave’s 3D magic, which ended up becoming Expunged
Ik that’d never be the case obviously but it’s a fun thought
blud thinks expunged is canon to deltarune chapter 6.5 /j
I have zero idea on how to see this
LOL, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS FUN THE MAIN PROTAGONIST ARE THE COLOURS THAT COMPOSE LIGHT AGAINIST EXPUNGED THAT SEEM TO BE DARKNESS :D (OFC WE NOW WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE PLAYROBOT BUT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUTH THE MAIN 3 THERE OF THE STORY... THERES DAVE, BAMBI AND TRISTAN AGAINIST THE MAIN ANTAGONIST OR VILLIAN)
new deltarune au no fak
UMMMMM.... IS NOT RELATED TO DELTARUNE OK?......
ok unicorny
I wonder what the mod creators planned for Recurser in the rewritten lore before he was retconned
PROBABLY SOMETHING ABOUTH THE LORE OF THEIR MODS? HONESTLY I NEVER SAW RECURSER IN ANY MOD BESIDES THE OG
DNB has lore
Fascinating
indeed
Ever since the devs called Joke Bambi an alien in the volume 1 release stream, I’ve liked to imagine that Joke Bambi in the lore is an alien that disguised themself as Bambi to try and fit in, but did a horrible job
WELL THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING! WONDER IF IN DNB ALIENS EXIST LOL
KNOWING HOW WEIRD THINGS ARE IN THEIR UNIVERSE
We definitely aren’t alone in our universe so the D&B universe having aliens would make sense
I GUES :0
Watchout gng new aliens r coming to get one of yall
I WONDER IF WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME KIND OF GAMEPLAY (SONG OR ANYTHING ELSE) WITH THE DNB LORE THING....I MEAN I WONDER IF WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE EVENTS OF TRISTAN BIRTHDAY (MAYBYE THE GOLD PROPHECY OR ANYTHING LORE RELATED) AND NOT ONLY TEXT IN THE TERMINAL :O
I MEAN I DOUBT THAT HAPPENS OFC BUT I JUST WONDER
I like to imagine that the eyes that Lord Bambi removed would become other 2D Bambi-ish beings, like for example, Jen
🤨
@proper verge
👀
Matthason
Em reminds me of him
we should get back to lore-ing
???????mathason
I still wanna talk about this idea
Since Lord Bambi was described as a wise and powerful deity, the eyes that he removed must have contained a lot of power
I feel like the fallen eyes would go on to become Bambi-like characters in the multiverse (specifically 2D universes), since he was a god, his influence must’ve span across the multiverse
We’re never told what happened to the eyes after he removed them, so this would be a nice detail to think about
not rlly lore per-se but it’s still a fun thought
You mean this being like the reason of nimbi existing for example?
I said 2D Bambi’s
not 3D
The 3D world and its inhabitants aren’t associated with Bambi
so it wouldn’t rlly make any sense that they’re also the results of Bambi’s eyes
Eh true
We should all kil bambi
bambi’s death in 3 dayys
unrelated but look at the (unfinished) it’s bag I made^_^
hi madden
hes vacuum sealed he can’t talk🥺/joke
forever contained
have we ran out of lore to discuss :[
I FEEL WE STILL HAVE MORE, MAYBYE IS JUST PEOPLE SHARING SOME...NO LORE THINGS HERE 😅 BUT LETS FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO TALK!
I STILL LIKE TO THINK OF WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL OF THE MEMEBERS THAT FOLLOWED LORD BAMBI....I WONDER IF THEY ARE... d3ad OR MAYBYE LOST IN SOME PARTS OF THE VOID OR SOEMTHING?
I DONT FEEL ALL OF THEM DISSAPREAD
ithink theres evidence the religion still exists in present day, ya :o
its pretty interesting to think abt tbhs, especially considering chloes old toyhouse bio (assuming that is infact a lord bambi reference in there) and the readme of passwordisunknown
HMMMMMM I GUES...MAYBYE THEY (JUST AS BAMBI) DONT REMEMBER
AFTER ALL IF BAMBI IS A FORGOTEN LORD....IT MEANS THAT MAYBYE THOSE WHO COMPOSED IT FORGOT ABOUTH IT (OR MAYBYE OTHERS DIED)
I FEEL BAMBI'S EYES REMOVAL HAD TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT...MAYBYE IT ALSO AFFECTED THE MEMORY OF THE ONES WHO WHERE MEMBERS OF LORD BAMBI
AFTER ALL THEY WHRE SO CONNECTED...THO I THINK MADDEN COULD BE THE LAST ONE WHO REMEMBERS LORD BAMBI OR THE RELIGION
MAYBYE BECAUSE OF BEING STUCK IN THE VOID HIS MEMORY WAS NOT AFFECTED...AND MAYBYE LORD BAMBI JUST LET HIM GOT THE CHANCE TO HAVE THAT MEMORIES..HE WAS THE ONE WHO GOT THE INFO FROM BAMBI AFTER ALL
THO WE STILL DONT KNOW ANYTHING :0
Examples of what I’m trying to say could be Jen and The Pros from Screwedathon or Jeremy from Hortas Edition
I like to imagine that if Blade did end up existing, they’d be a rather quiet character, but still deadly
I’d imagine Blade being the introvert to Expunged’s extrovert if that makes any sense
YEAH I WONDER...THO THAT DEPENDS BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE NO CLUE OF BLADE WOULD INTERACT WITH EXPUNGED BECAUSE.....WELL IT DOESNT EXIST LOL
I WONDER IF IT EAITHER WOULD BE AGRESIVE TO EXPUNGED...AT BLADE BEING PURE TRISTAN GOLDEN MAGIC AND THE PROPHECY THING....PROBABLY BLADE WOULD HAVE IN HIS MIND THE DUTY OF ELIMINATING EXPUNGED AT ANY COST
BUT WELL THATS WHAT I THINK, PROBABLY EVEN IF EXPUNGED CHOSE BLADE'S NAME ITS PROBABLE THE INTERACTION THOSE TWO HAS CAN BE WAY DIFFERENT OF WHAT EXPUNGED MAY THINK....THAT OFC DEPENDS IF EXPUNGED KNOW'S ABOUTH THE PROPHECY OR NOT
I mean considering how passionate and determined she was to get Blade to exist, I feel like she would’ve manipulated them into believing Dave and the others are the enemy
Blade discussion, neat
YEAH, DO IT DEPENDS THO IF BALDE LETS ITSLEF BE MANIPULATED IR HOW BLADE CAN BE...BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW HOW IT ACTS OR ITS OERSONALITY
I TAKE BLADE AS SOME KIND OF COPY TI TIRSTAN, LIKE A TWIN LIKE OF IT...THE EXACT SAME TRISTAN AND HOW IT IS
AND CONSIDERI G TRISTAN IS REALLY ATACHED TO HIS FATHER, I WONDER IF BALDE HAS THE SANE THOUGHTS AND ALL, RPOBABLY BLADE WOULD FEAR EXPUNGED IR WOULD HATE IT TO DEATH (MAYBYE BECAUS EIF THE PROPECHY GRABED IN ITS MIND OR VECAUSE BALDE MAYBYE KNOWS EHAT EXPUNGED DID TO DAVE)
EVEN THO EXPUNGED TPOBABLY WOULD DO ANYTHING IN ITS POWER TO GET BLADE PIWER OR SOEMTHING...IN A WAY IR ANOTHER
I am aware that we don’t know how Blade acts because it doesn’t exist
let’s just keep that in mind and not over-mention it
repeating the same thing over and over gets annoying after a while
This is most likely just me but imma say it anyway
I’d say since the golden magic that would’ve created Blade comes from Tristan, who is a kid, Blade would have the mentality of a confused child when first coming into existence. Since Expunged came from Dave’s 3D magic and is implied to be a warped reflection of Dave due to looking like Dave but “all wrong” when she was first born, then I’d say it’s not far off for Blade to be a reflection of Tristan
If that were to be the case then I feel like Expunged would take advantage of Blade’s innocence to try and manipulate them into believing that Dave and the others are the true enemy, since kids are usually easy to convince (I’m not saying Blade WOULD BE a kid, I’m just saying they’d probably have the mentality of one due to coming from Tristan)
And yes I also feel like Expunged would feel the need to give Blade as much power as she can due to having a devoted obsession with power
HMMMM I SEE AND HONESTLY MAKES SENSE :0 PROBABLY EXPUNGED WOULD MANIPULATED BADE TO BE ON ITS SIDE OR CONVINCE IT INTO GIVING ITS POWER (OR MAYBYE EPXUNGED WOULD JUST TAKE IT) BUT YEAH I THINK WHAT YOU SAY MAKE SENSE!
AND YEAH SORRY FOR REPEATING THAT....I tend to repeat things a lot and i don't notice abouth that so thanks for telling me 😓 (I apologize if that was annoying to......)
It’s fine dw about it
I don’t feel like Expunged would try to take Blade’s power, considering how passionate she was to get them to exist
The way I see it was Expunged liking the thought of having a partner in crime, and with both of them with power she’d likely think they’d be unstoppable
Though she’d still need to manipulate them into believing her lies to get them on board
I imagine she’d act really nice to them in an attempt to gain their trust, similarly to Dave’s fatherly love for Tristan
I think I’m the first person to really talk about and analyse Blade in a while ._.
HMMM I SEE (ALSO IS GREAT I THINK BLADE IS A AMAZING CONCEPT AND IS COOL HOW YOU ANYLIZE IT! :D)! AND WELL....EXPUNGED PROBABLY NEEDS HELP, MEAN IT ITS REALLY STRONG BUT MAYBYE....IT JUST NEEDS MORE POWER AND BLADE SOUNDS PERFECT FOR THAT :0
Real I feel like that’s part of the reason why she wanted Dave to create Blade in the first place, she isn’t powerful enough alone so she wanted a partner in crime to double said power
I feel like Blade would’ve been the general of the Bambi Minion army that Expunged is creating if they existed
(Is Expunged making an army in the og mod’s lore or is that too gapple-ish?)
Man we’re really running low on lore topics if we’re talking about alternate possibilities 🙃
true Blade is an awesome concept
HEHE GUES THATS PART OF WHAT MAKES IT COOL AND FUN!! INVESTIGATING EVEN THE SMALLEST THINGS AND STILL BE ABLE TO TALK OR THINK ABOUTH THEM! WITH THINGS THAT MAYBYE CAN BE TRUE OR NOT HEHE
BUT YEAH BLADE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SOMETHING REALLY USEFULL FOR EXPUNGED SO HE WOULD PUT BLADE PROBABLY AS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HE NEEDS, OR IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE ALWAYS BE SURE TO HAVE IT NEXT TO HIM (NOT SURE IF I EXPLAINED THIS RIGHT...)
pretty please rapparep finish volume 2 soon so the lore-shaped hole in my heart can be filled
Since Expunged cares about power above all else, having Blade by her whenever she can would likely be her top priority in order to double the amount of power she had alone (idk if I said that right ._.)
FONT WORRY U UNDERSTAND AND YEAH..I MEAN BETWEEN HAVING ANYTHING ELSE IN A ALMOST EMPTY 3D VOID AND A BEING OF PURE POWER...IS CLEAR WHAT EXPUNGED WOULD WHANT TO HAVE (NOW THAT I THINK ABOUTH IT EXPUNGED IS PRETTY MUCH IN A EMTY VOID LIKE...THERE IS ONLY SOME SHAPES FLOATING AROUND...NO WONDER IT WANTED BLADE TI EXIST, IN ANY CASE DAVE DID THE RIGHT THING AT NOT FOLLOWING EXPUNGED 💀 MAN SOEMTHIMES I WONDER HOW BAD WOULD IT HAVE BEEN.........)
I feel like Expunged wouldn’t actually care about Blade as a person and more because of the power they could have if she had a bonus next to her, but she’d still secretly appreciate their company cause I can tell that the 3D world can get a bit lonely sometimes
YEAH I MEAN....BEING ALONE IN A EMPTY SPACE WHO KNOWS FOR HOW LONG....YEAH THAT SURE TIRED EXPUNGED
THO MAYBYE POWER IS THE THING THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS TO IT? NOT SURE SO YEAH MAYBYE IT ALSO DOENST CARE ABOUTH BEING ALONE...PROBABLY IT JUST WHANTS POWER TO HAVE CONTROL OVER SOMETHING MORE THAN THE 3D VOID :0
nvm scratch that that’s a dumb take
I kinda see where ur coming from
Expunged cares about power more than anything so obviously she would want as much power and control as she possibly can, and Blade would more than likely be the perfect being to accomplish such a task
speaking of Blade have you seen my design for them, I drew a design for them I can send it here until you respond because this isn’t rlly the channel for that
HEH IST ALR YOU CAN SHOW ME I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT!!! :D
I LOVE SEIENG PEOPLES DESIGNS FOR BLADE! I ALSO GOT ONE HEHE
okay here you go, a design plus a lil doodle I did
She called them “The Golden Warrior” so I gave them a samurai kind of design, I feel like it works
YEAH!
PRETTY UNIQUE AS WELL!
MAN I CANT WAITTO SEE WHAT VOLUME 2 WILL BRING FOR THE LORE
I THINK THEY WILL SHOW MORE OF BLADE AND ALL! CANT WAIT TO SEE IT!
SAMEEE THE HYPE IS REAL
can I see ur design now? If u wanna of course
I’m curious!!
OHHHH SURE!
WELL THIS IS A DRAWING AND A 3D MODEL OF IT! (HOPE ITS OK TO POST IT HERE...IF NOT ILL DELETE THEM 👍)
PLANING ON REDESIGNING IT THO :0
THATS FUCKING AWESOME???
dear god that’s far better than my design what the hell
awowe thank YOU! HEHE YOUR DESIGN IS COOL TO!
I wanted to add a golden shine to Blade in my design but it got a lil annoying trying to get it right so I didn’t bother
Ty!!
Okee we getting carried away this is a LORE CHANNEL we gotta LORE
YUP HEHE 👍
anyway I’m getting tired I feel like that’s enough lore-ing rn
Blade is certainly an interesting character
i made this design before realizing that the polygonal aspect of expunged wouldn’t fit as blade isnt 3D power like them
awesomeeee
What
Yo teach what fo lunch
UHHHHH WELL THIS IS MOSTLY A PLACE FOR DNB LORE DISCUSSION.....
anyone theree??
yes
How old do we think Bambi is
I don’t mean the age he’s went by by Dave and the others
his true age
PROBABLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OR EVEN EXISTED SIENCE THE START OF TIMES (IT WAS PUT IN THE LORE BAMBI EXISTED WITHOUT REASON THOOOOO NOT SURE IF THAT WAS PUT AS FALSE LATER?)
SO I GUES HE HAS...INFINITE AGE? AND WHEN HE TURNED INTO THE BAMBI WE KNOW HE PROBABLY REDUCED HIS AGE TO 34/33 YEARS
OH WAIT FORGET IT I FOUND IT
HOW ABPUT TRILLIONS OF YEAR OR WHAT IF HES ACTUALLY THE SAME AGE AS OUR UNIVERSE
ALSO SAME AS EXPUNGED AND THE OTHERS
Theres ACTUALLY a reason why gods dont have actual ages
expunged is like 4
Mf four😭😭😭😭
Bro’s 4
physically ageless, mentally probably 16 due to how immature they act (can testify) and in reality around 4-5 given the praem was made before tristans 7th birthday and tristan is 12
WELL THAT DEPENDS..IF EXPUNGED IS DAVES MAGIC THEN ITS AGE WOULD BE AS WHEN DAVE USED THE PREAM ON HIMSELF :0
THAT MEANS THAT WHEN EXPUNGED CAME OUT OF DAVES MAGIC THAT WOULD BE THEIR AGE UNTIL NOW...THO THE THING WOULD BE OF HOW OLD WAS DAVE WHEN HE USED THE PRAEM ON HIMSELF SIENCE IS NOT SO CLEAR IN THE TERMINAL 😅
THO ABOUTH BAMBI..PRETTY SURE HE IS AS OLD AS THE UNIVERSE LOL 💀
HOLY UNC
LOL FR
In volume 1+: Hard to say anything when the new timeline and story changes haven't been confirmed, but we do have solid ages now (Dave 29, Tristan 11). Tristan being aged up will likely affect the timeline in some way and thereby how old Dave was when he used the P.R.A.E.M.
In 3.0: His exact age was never given beyond "mid twenties" for the current day, which could mean 24-26 but that was never explicitly confirmed. He completed & used the P.R.A.E.M. a month before Tristan's 7th birthday and hes 9 in the game events, meaning it happened ~2 years ago. This would mean Dave may have created Expunged when he was 22-24*. Whether or not this reflects on Expunged's mental age is a different matter, but they are chronologically/physically 2 years old
HMMMMMMM YEAH MAKES SENSE :O
I WONDER RIF THIS WOULD BE CLARIFIED IN VOLUME 2? BECAUSE FORM WHAT I HAVE SEEN WITH THE LORE...EXPUNGED SEEMS TO BE A BIT MORE OLDER THO I DONT KNOW EXACTLY
Most likely will be clarified
I HOPE :0
hey yall
did yall know Bambi is super duper old
like dear god he is ancient as hell
i made him
since when were you rapparep
since today
hi rapperlol
did you know that…dave💥💥💥💥💥💥🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋
MADDEN IS DEAD
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
WE’RESO COOKED
how do we know that
WELL.....GOODBYE FOR 😞
XOR
YOU WHERE A REALLY INTERESTING CHARACTER THO A SHAME YOU HAVE TO GO...IM STILL SOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY ABOUTH THE NEW LORE I CANT WAIT 🤩
FUCK DUDE
LORD BAMBI NO LONGER EXISTS
we are done for....,,,,
:(
AWWWWWWGHHHHH.......
WELL HE STILL EXIST IN MY AU THEN....THO MAN....THE STORY SEEMS TO BE GOING FOR A INTERESTING FUTURE.....
PRAEM IS GONE
I'm excited to see what becomes of both versions, im glad to see that the old lore will still continue in its own space
YEAH THATS SOUNDS AMAIZNG!!!!
HUH
I’m starting to not like the direction they’re going with the new lore
they’re butchering all the cool stuff
LIKE A NEW AU!! HEHE SOUNDS SO COOL!
LORD BAMBI: GONE. PRAEM, GONE. GOLDEN TRISTAN? PROBABLY GONE.
OH PROBABLY....HUFFF OK...MAN DONT SCARE ME LINE THAT 😅😭
IS NOT STILL CO.FIRMED......right
they havent released any of it yet? unless youre talking about the toyhouse bios
in dnb discussion they’re leaking stuff
It's so over, Madden and Matthason are not canon anymore 💔
OH RIGHT NEW TOYHOUSE VIDEOS...GOTTA CHECK THAT :O
what the fuck is the story now I liked the old plot :[
OK IM STARTED TO GET SCARED AND CONFUSED.....
the old plot still exists its just going into an au
LIKE LEGIT.......
IF THE PRAEM ISNT CANON ANYMORE THEN WHERE THE FUCK DID EXPUNGED COME FROM NOW
IDK WHATS GOING ON NOW BECAUSE IDK WHEN THEY ARE SAYING SOMETHING CONFIRMED OR NOT OH MT.....
F*CK.....
I’M GONNA HAVE AN IDENTITY CRISIS
oooof this is gonna start drama im calling it
:(
YES I SAW....
Im excited to see what the new lore is even if im scared about whats different :V
ohhhh what the shellll
well I would hope not because its their decision at the end of the day. Its inevitable this will upset some people but its important to be respectful about the change
I’m the one that’s upset
EXACTLY....I MAY BE KINDA SCARED EN HO I RESPECT THEIR DECITION
they butchered everything that make it cool
and thats understandable, but try not to panic about this
trueee
AND I HOPE THEY LINE WHAT THEY ARE DOING <:)
wait theres a new lore?
yeah they just announced it on their twitter
IM JUST SCARED SOME PEOPLE REALLY BLACKLASH THIS...THATS THE ONLY THING THAT IM SCARED FOR 😞
everything from terminal 3.0 IS RETCONNED
can’t believe that they deleted ME and madden in dnb…..
I MEAN IM HAPPY FOR THE NEW LORE BUT I HOPE PEOPLE DONT TAKE IT PERSONAL...
i feel neutral about this decision
IF ANYTHING MAKE CAN MAKE OUR AUS
W H A T
i’m not happy
ITS UNDERSTANDABLE....
WELL KF ANYTHING WE CAN MAKE OUR AUS, USE THE OLD STORY...NEW STORY NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUTH....
IM SO FUCKING SCARED
THEY FUCKING SCRAPPED XOR WTF
I HOPE PEOPLE DONT TAKE IT BAD 😞
yeah but guess what happens to aus. they get overlooked. they die.
RIP XOR
THE LAST THING IWHANT IS A CONTEOVERSIE FOR THIS....
IM GONNA SHIT MYSELF
IM TRYING TO BE POSSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS HAS ME WORRIED TO
OK OK SORRY....
SON IM SO SCARED
https://bsky.app/profile/daveandbambi.net/post/3mehsumokr22b even though it isnt canon anymore, its still being developed separately. its not going away
-# ↩ Dave and Bambi (@daveandbambi.net)
All D&B projects going forward will have new lore distinct from the previous iterations. For those missing the old lore, @mtm101.bsky.social is continuing it as an AU named Underside. Information about it will be on his socials when it’s ready. (2/5)
I GOTTA TAKE A BREAK SORRY 😞
yeah the lore is kinda what i joined this fandom for initially
IM SCARED HELP ME MAX
OK LETS ALL TAKE A BREAK PLEASE....
its gonna be fine just take a breather
IM GOING TO SHIT MYSELF
THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD...
HELP ME
what the fuck does this mean for Expunged? Is she still canon? I hope she’s still canon
Just follow the AU, at least it's being continued
Why would she not be???
LET EXPUNGED STAY PLEASE
deep breaths deep breaths deep AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
OFC SHE WOULD STILLBE CANNON I MEAN SHE IS PART OF THE LORE FOR LIKE...ALWYAS
I hope underside wouldn’t be abandoned like calamity rose or culpability 💔💔
WHAT ABT BAMBI LORE WE ARENT FINISHED YET
THEY BUTCHERED EVERYTHING IN THE LORE WHY NOT TAKE EXPUNGED TOO WHILE THRYE AT IT
GOD DAMMIT
IF ANYTHING MY AU HAS THE OG LORE AND ALL...AND I CAN FIND A WAY TO ADD NEW THINGS FROMTHE NEW LORE TO
Dude calm down
I LINE DOING AND EXPERIMENTING SO I GUES I CAN TAKE IT EASY <:)
Calamity Rose wasnt abandoned its in hiatus and Culpability was dropped due to stress with the fandom and attention that Jerry got from it
really frustrated
We don't know what the new lore is like
i’m actually gonna fucking tweak out i probably won’t be able to handle it at all
WHERE THE BAMBI INFO
ohhhhh okay understandable ^_^
Im going to shit harder lowk
he is no longer a god. he is just very old
hes now…Bambi
Im sure we'll be getting more information in time
LOST MEDIA?????
I HOPE
no longer lord bambi. just bambi
at this point i don’t think the new information will help
I guess the characters who are no longer canon are Madden and his family, Matthason, Xor and any god bambi stuff really
NOOOO
I DONT WHANT THIS GETS OUT OF CONTEOL I DONT HINK I WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS
i’m really bad with change
WICH...IS KINDA WEIRD FOR ME I TRY TO BE POSSITIVE...
IM GOING TO COPE
The thing I’m confused with the most is why they scrapped XOR
OK YK WHAT? ALL OF US LETS TAKE A BREAK FROM DISCORD RN :(
I GAD MADE DESIGN
we didn’t even get to see her design
Xor was just a temporary replacement for the terminal
REALLY I KNWO THIS IS A LOT FOR SOME OF US SO LETS TAKE A BREAK OUT HERE...
WE ARE NEVER GONNA SEE THIS ANYMORE
They have no lore
xor was a really new character too so like
well yeah but she was still a character
dude literally ALL MY FUCKING BACKSTORY IS GONE
NO NEW CHARACTERS????
WELLYEAH HONESTLY FOR HAD NO LORE SO ITS NOT SO BAD :0
EXPUNGED IS NOW
KIND OF A SHAME THO
ALL FOR NOTHING?????
WHAT DO YOU MEAN??????
I DONT EVEN KNWO WHAT SHE IS???
WHATS EXPUNGED NOW?
THERE IS NO WAY THEY TAKE EXPUNGED OFF???
EVEN THE FUCKING PRAEM IS GONE
You guys need to stop assuming things
WVERYTHING ISRN
You have to wait for volume 2
ITS GONNA BE ROBLOX OVER AAIN
I MEAN WELL YEAH PRAEM IS GONE
ITS GONNA BE ROBLOX OVER AAIN
sigh……
THE PRAEM IS GONE
Expunged is still present
BUT EXPUNGED????? YEAH SURE NO
Oh wow, that's a lot of messages.
I am not assuming things.
Gold YOU GUYS
M
THEE IS NO WAY EXPUNGED IS GETTING OUT
can y'all calm down underside is right there
THATS WHAT I SAY....
I can smell the edited Claire images….
THERE IS BARELY ANY SHIT ABOUT UNDERSIDE
it's just 3.0 lore
Underside is the old lore
I MEAN...UNDERSIDE IS THE OLD LORE SOOOO??????
so there's a lot actually
OHHHH
bashes head into screen
there'll be more in the future
maybe if you read the tweet... 👀
DUDE THE LORE THING IS RECENT HOW THE HELL
srry if I got out of control I’m just really really frustrated and confused and scared for the future of the lore
IVE READ IT!! I’m waiting for more..👀
this ^
missingtextureman please save us
I DID AND IM SHITTING MYSELF
Cause first off this was announced completely out of the blue
I think people are assuming we'd just leave characters without a backstory or lore which isn't whats happening
OK THIS IS KIND OUT OF CONTROL 😓 ILL BE IN BLUSKY IF ANYONE NEEDS ME PLEASE GUYS CALM DOWN....
its understandandable to be upset just try not to catastrophize this and be respectful about the devs decision
low-key I have a tiny urge to cry For Some Reason #momwin
EXACTLY
it'll be fine
at least it's not whatever was going on in 2.5 lmao
THE END OF DAVE AND BAMBI LORE????
I forget if it was included in the final draft of the tweet but the new writing is very developed
THE END OF DAVE AND BAMBI LORE????
It has existed for a while at this point
if youre getting heated about this then take a breather
No?
the end disappearance of hatsune miku
Don't assume anything that isn't said in the tweet
dnblore -> underside
do yall know why xor was scrapped
I mean to be fair, the lore is kinda not updated, it’s mostly old
barely even a character
THE GRILL IS GONE!!!
Xor didn't do anything
I gues Is better to stop saying this i dont whant more people get freaked out
she had potential tho at least in my eyes :<
THE DISAPPEARANCE OF BAMBI
i’m going to TWEAAKKK i want my praem back
underside
I like the idea of a meta character
literally all of this still exists
didn’t updated since like 2023-2024 #UNC
tbh i agree
IM STUCK IN THE OVEN
it'll be in underside its not going away
i think xor could still work in vs dave
like even with the new lore
as long as it was treated 100% like
a missingno computer glitch
even if he’s in underside we should do a funeral for madden
I hate to be a vagueposting god but like. The new lore has a lot of lovable story beats and I think its time to just chill and wait for things to be revealed
THIS IS MY OPINION
IM CRINE WHY IS THE FORUM IN CHAOS
WELL I STILLHAVE ALL THAT LORE STUFF IN MY AU...I GUES ANYONE CAN SEARCH IT IF I EVER MAKE IT....
I AM NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE VS DAVE OPINION
i don’t think you guys get wwhy underside isn’t helping
it’s because dave and bambi will be known as dave and bambi and not underside
still exists outside of vs dave
Make her ur oc ig
?
how do i putthis into words
but she isn’t mine
the old lore wasnt the direction that dave and bambi was focused in so a split had to happen
RIGHT
i really dont know why it matters so much that it has to be the official vs dave lore
it'll probably have like "dnb:" or something tacked on in front of it for people who hadn't heard
all the same characters with all the same writing still exists
people don't like change
Im scared abt the roblox curse
people already treated dnblore as a separate entity from vs dave anyways
UMMMMMMM......????????
There's a part of dnb fans that focused a lot on the old lore
honestly what are yall's genuine concerns like take some time to think about this
underside still exists
Idk
like the old lore is still a thing
I am one of those fans and Im completely fine with this change
semi identity crisis /hj
Maybe im scaredbut
IM STARTING TO CALM RN <:)
the old lore didnt have any pertinence to vs dave gameplay wise and was almost an entirely separate entity
I HINK ITS COOL TO!
yeah notice how people had a seperate tag for dnblore
I think its time to let it go lowk
and not just #daveandbambi
isnt vs dave not even the main project??
what
The fnf mod
wdym it's not even the main project
like it’s one of many
Maybe i think if it was on the final then maybe i would enjoy it
4,083 people apparently
you're using expunged as your profile i'm pretty sure they probably actually have one also hi lark i just looked at your profile
a lot of the side projects havent gotten off the ground in any meaningful way just yet so we're still focusing on vs dave and bambi
.???
WAIT WHAT ARE YOU TAOLKING ABOUTH? VS DAVE??
Talking abt new lore
Im sure i would just calm down
as in like tristans pizzeria
And take a watch
OHHHHHHHHHHHH I SEE :O
I didn’t have time to process anything this was all out of nowhere
what
THE PIZZERIA LOST MEDIA
scratch dnb forum like three years ago 👍👍👍👍👍
WELL ILL BE LOOKING FOR THE NEW LORE AND ILL KEEP THE OTHER FOR MY AU SO NO PROBLEM!
I do have an identity crisis.??
yea exactly
WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHGG WWAAAAAHHH
YEAH!
dont change it or anything (unless you want to)
AND MAYBYA ADD THINGS FOR THE NEW ONE :D
I just hope the new lore does the characters justice
it will
I LINE EXPERIMENTING!
Im excited to see where both of them go
HEHHEHHEHE YAAY NICE!
especially Bambi and expunged
well they're directly split from dave (at least in underside) so i feel like she'd at least have something similar
also other people too
GUES I JUST HAD TO THINK ABOUTH KTFOR A WHILE I DONT FEEL WORRIED ANYMORE HEHHEHE
Bruh who even is that
it was a very big collaborative project with input from the dev team altogether
I worked on it!
BRO I WAS CHECKING THE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND I CHECKED THE FORUM AND EVERYTHING EXPLODED
I DO
nah
seriously speaking though it was a big collab
READ MY BIO PLEASE?
Writing it was really fun
agree
oh
HEHHEHEHHE IMGALD ABOUTH THAT!
i mean at times
Most fun ive had doing stuff for d&b
HOPE YOU LL HAD FUN IN IT!
the arguing over minutia wasnt very fun but besides that
:D 🩷
i know because thats fucking me buddy
OH I CAN IMAGINE
i hope in the future to see it! by listening to it it seems interesting !!^_^
you cant use funny words cuz ppl will think minutia is an actual thing
cmon
Rip madden
I hope yall have fun bringing the new lore to life i just need some time to process everything
people here arent stupid
gotta get all the details 🔥
My sone
at least not the dnblore people
Yeah, sure.
most of us aren’t stupid ( I’m the stupid one)
*UNDERSIDE people
Underside Discussion
My sone madden😿😿
Are we deadass
claire
changed the post title: Underside Discussion — 9:15 PM
AT LEAST?.....WHA...
i'm saying you guys arent the stupid ones chill
as in yall are smart and have brain power
UNDERSIDE!!!!!!!!!!
Oooohhhhhhohohoh aha h oh ah eh
UNDERSIDE
underside 🔥 🔥 🔥
you guys in particular are the smarter side of the fandom
why underside though this feels like a 2016 undertale au
hes in UNDERSIDE!!!!!!
By Toby Fox
YAAAY! 🩷🩷🩷
me talking about my rump haha
idk ask ben
Im going to beat on of u
I guess there will be a new lore forum for volume 2?
/j
nah
i didnt name it
WOW REALLY?
you can just use #dnb-discussion
@benjamin
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imo yeah
SHOO SHIO SHSIOSVRKDGAIHDIDX SHSIOSVRKDGAIHDIDXS
probably what someone could call the 10th anniversary extra rooms
yapping about an au isn’t gonna make it as fun anymore but I’ll still yap
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YAAAY!
yeah
SSCJSHF0S9YSYF9YAFA9DUFU9SFS9TU9S6RH8SR6G8S8G538G5ESS85G3SR68GS8R5GS86RHS86HRH6RSH96RSH6RS4HA9HFAUPFAU9DAY9DAY9D9
how to larp underside 2026 100% working no patches
can’t it just be idk two sides of the same coin
keep both canon somehow
hell zone
that'd be so hard to implement in any way that works
that's hell zone
the in-between war
MAN THAT WOULD BE HELL....FR
joke is also an au technically so it's not really out of the question
Underside is like Dave and Bambi's Paper Mario if Dave and Bambi is Super Mario
what about the new stuff is so radical that everything has to be a retcon
Is that a good comparison
That whole blade discussion me and unicorny did was back when the underside lore was canon and I had a lot of fun
I guess so
....CAN'T.... SAY....
but a lot is different
HEHHEHEH IT REMINDS ME TO PAPER JAM WHERE THE TWO COEXIST!!!LIKE IN A MAGIC BOOK OR SMT HEHHE
tonal shift
GOOD GAME HEHHEHE
id feel like it’s more of a mario & luigi or a mario rpg
this is not to say that it's completely like
I don't know, I never played paper Mario ¯_(ツ)_/¯
kms /J
happyville
or all jokes
but it's definitely a lot less angsty
looks like Recurser has new people to hang out with in the retcon club
both are really good so yeah i think so
are we allowed to know anything about the new lore i haven't been paying attention
YAAY! IDK WHAT PEOPLE SAY I'LOVE THIS GAME
No
rapparep will yell at me
there's a lot of oppurtunity for angst though but its been toned down 🧐
if i say anything about the new lore rapparep will yell and send weird gifs
nah that guy was just killed in the alley
Dont give the impression theres no angst and drama
are dave and expunged even connected anymore
I WONDER....
dude imagine an underside game👀👀👀👀
☝️
VAGUEPOSTING BANNED BY RAPPALOL
how to kill every lore fan with anticipation
toyhouses show surface level information of the new lore
then he ascended to aadsta’s world for an eternity of peace and tranquility 😋
AW CMON DO T YELL AT HIM
inguf not watched a lick of scott the woz
but the main big things of the lore wont be clear until volume 2 comes out
true...
oh I've read those 📝
Wha...
Also if you guys have questions about the new lore you can gather them at #questions-old !!! we'll be willing to answer
expunged clinging on to the praem for dear life
new side mod /j
it'd be massively preferred anyway for easy viewing for everyone
YAAAY THAT MAKES ME MORE HAPPY FOR IT!
CANT ANSWER BIG ONES
The intimidating 6 hour slowmode
or maybe either like a webcomic and/or EVEN A SERIES
but that should be expected
Is the terminal still in the mod
situation so big even the people behind it have to step in
THIS IS FUNHEHEHHE
1 question every 6 years
The lore was part of vsdnb for a while
gives you more time to reflect if you think about it. if you want when your slowmode is up you can send a big list of questions if you feel like you have to
also you can edit your message
NICEEEE
im just trying not to overwhelm anyone
I was in the middle of making a character ref when the D&B floodgates opened and now I’m here
Actually I want this question answered
terminal has been replaced with a paper test
WHU
you literally made a giant unanticipated change to the entire continuity and then say that
what would you rather happen
DON'T GET MAD
it ok bro we forgive you twn
10% of the thread get sent over the course of a month?
please calm down dont worry
be nice
OK PLEASE CALM DOWN ALREADY....
DO T BE SO HARSH AT LEAST...
sorry that wasn’t meant to sound harsh
that didn't seem that rude
IS OK JUST...TRY TO CALM DOWN A BIT OK?
I am Now Officially The Number One Fan Of The Underside Au
I JUST DONT WHANT HI GS GET AT THIS LEVEL
?
This reminds me of the Minecraft server incident where ppl are freaking out to the point someone admitted that they like kids that actually happened on Minecraft server
i knew this was gonna happen in some way. i held back on making this announcement for a long time (I literally didnt even make the public announcement, got someone else to do it cause it freaked me out so much).
this Dave and Bambi stuff gets serious
this has gotten to my conscious just about as bad as everyone else here
Expunged finally killed Madden he’s fucking dead
OH..........SORRY FOR THAT :( DONT WORRY OVER ALL.....I KNOW THIS WILL BE SOMETHING ALL OF YOU HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD ON TO GIVE SOE.THING GREAT!
good to know everyone here is suffering /j
forgot this was a different server and was gonna get the MASSIVE HATE? sticker
i mean tbh really what else could we do
I just genuinely and wholeheartedly believe this is the best way to move the mod forward in the future and especially for projects in the future if we ever do something along those lines
how do you drip feed an announcement like this
.....
^^^
i have an unbreakable love for Dave and Bambi
Minecraft discord server mods keep banning ppl for making copypastas ppl are being rude or even someone are begging the mods to fix it
AND I HONESTLY 1000% SUPPORT YOU AND THE TEAM ON IT!
I think some people are aware of how much tension the old lore caused between the dev team, it was definitely for the best
UNDERSTANDABLE 👍
I was fully aware that some people would react negatively and that's what got to me so badly for a long time
i hated sending that initial message to ben
I’ve been fixated on Mario’s madness for the past few weeks yet this change still hit like a bullet, but if yall gotta do it then I won’t protest
🫂 SORRY FOR THAT GENUELLY
on the topic of lore from a normie perspective
the original lore was wicked hard to keep track of, i just kinda gave up on it
Right i didnt want to hate but have to watch as new lore involve we sould be nice atp
I assume because it was too angsty at times?
tbf there's always a point where a change on something you're making would work way better than what you have
not even just that
:<
a lot of reasons
it just didnt have much to do with vs dave the mod
im glad that you did many changes, even if I love the old lore(UNDERSIDE), it was really outdated imo and really needed a change. the writing was slightly sloppy and rushed but I’m glad that things would change. I’m anticipating to see what updates are coming^_^
😥
YEAHLOOKING AT IT...WAS...KINDA CONFUSING SO IM GLAD YOU ALL DECIDED TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR ALL OF YOU, IM HAPPY FOR ALL LF YOU!
it's been well documented how the lore was initially added to the mod without greenlights amongst the dev team on the wiki
the new lore is a lot more intertwined with stuff that straight up happens in vs dave
which caused a lot of kerfuffles and resentment
What does the name underside even mean
I may have gotten into this fandom for its original lore and will always be attached to it but Im just as interested in seeing its new lore
I believe it was a sunk cost fallacy sorta thing that was in my head for a long time prior
I SEE, I HOPE YOU ALL ARE FEELING BETTER AND HAPPIER WITH THE NEW LORE YOU WILL ALL MAKE <:)
You still have deus ex machina with all the lore :]
It would be better but im kind of grateful we having to i was freaking out bc ppl are freaking out before me
probably like termina or that one fortnite island or something
like a mirror image of the main world
maybe this whole time.. Dave and Bambi was what brought us all together
I MAKE HAVE LIKED THE OLD LORE...BUT MAN IM LOOKING FORWARD HAPPILY FOR THE NEW ONE!
yeah thats not changing lol
AND WHATEVER THE TEAM IS UP TO!
This is truly dave and bambi
Underside wiki when?
I’m curious on the new lore explaination on how Expunged came to be
PROBABLY WHENTHEY GET MORE LORE IG...?
could probably convert the dnb wiki to that
would be easier probably
that's what I'm talkin about hell yeah
Ngl, that will change Expunged a lot
ouhkay uhm. Underside webcomic then. Guuullppppp/silly
i hope new Dave and Bambi lore is exactly the way i want it to be
Actually, Expunged will be so different 🤔
The wiki will probably just separate it as formerly canon lore and keep it on a separate page. As for new underside information we'll figure out how we're gonna document that
WELL GONNA GO TO THE TOYHUSES AND SEE THE NEW STUFF SEE YA GUYS! :D HEHEHHE WAS FUN TALKING WITH ALL OF YOU! AND DNB TEAM I WISH YOU THE BEST! HAVE FUN WITH THE NEW LORE! 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷
fair
I hope the ppl behind it are alright
Since a lot of what was known about expunged came from the old lore
real like, what’s gonna be her motive now
WAIT AND SEE 😈
Idk scaring kids like fnaf
Nightmare fredbaer type shi